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« on: September 30, 2013, 02:20:35 pm »

Sometimes I wonder where do the New Age Movement, these Postmodernism "Christians" leaders like Warren/Bell/Hybels, etc come up with these terms? And I also see these terms from even "conservative" media sources(ie-Breitbart today) when they describe young Millennial Generation leaders.

Saw this in the 1828 Webster's...



EMERG'ENT, a. Rising out of a fluid or any thing that covers or surrounds.

The mountains huge appear emergent.
1. Issuing or proceeding from.
2. Rising out of a depressed state or from obscurity.
3. Coming suddenly; sudden; casual; unexpected; hence,calling for immediate action or remedy; urgent; pressing; as an emergent occasion.


I know these church buildings are a big part of the strong delusion, but at the same time you can't deny the Emergent Church is potentially the VERY LAST days Apostate Church(as New Age Luciferian garbage have infiltrated these church buildings - something you really didn't see 50-100 years ago).

1) It's as if the Emergent Church, for example, just appeared out of nowhere after the turn of the 21st Century(I pretty much witnessed this myself growing up in these church buildings - Rick Warren appeared out of nowhere and was painted as the "savior of the church").

2) Calling for immediate action or remedy? Sounds like the Problem. Reaction. Solution. model of the Freemasons?

3) They seem to paint a lot of Millennial Gen leaders as Emergent - it's as if their youthful looks alone end up attracting a lot of followers almost immediately(hence you can apply the words coming suddenly and unexpected to them here). And they're the ones "calling for immediate action", as are these Emergent Church leaders(ie-Warren and Hybels call themselves "change agents" in the church).

4) Ultimately, scripture says it will be like this when God looses the Revelation judgments.

1The 5:1  But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2  For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 07:16:04 pm »

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." Revelation 13:1 (KJB)
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 11:44:57 pm »

Saw this about "Emerging" Markets today...


Emerging markets

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An emerging market is a nation with social or business activity in the process of rapid growth and industrialization. The economies of China and India are considered to be the largest.[1] According to The Economist many people find the term outdated, but no new term has yet to gain much traction.[2] Emerging market hedge fund capital reached a record new level in the first quarter of 2011 of $121 billion.[3] The seven largest emerging and developing economies by either nominal or inflation-adjusted GDP are the BRIC countries (Brazil, Russia, India and China), as well as MIKT (Mexico, Indonesia, South-Korea and Turkey).

The ASEAN–China Free Trade Area, launched on January 1, 2010, is the largest regional emerging market in the world.[4]


In the 1970s, "less developed countries" (LDCs) was the common term for markets that were less "developed" (by objective or subjective measures) than the developed countries such as the United States, Western Europe, and Japan. These markets were supposed to provide greater potential for profit, but also more risk from various factors. This term was thought by some to be politically incorrect so the emerging market label was created to hide the truth. The term is misleading in that there is no guarantee that a country will move from "less developed" to "more developed"; although that is the general trend in the world, countries can also move from "more developed" to "less developed".

Originally brought into fashion in the 1980s by then World Bank economist Antoine Van Agtmael,[5] the term is sometimes loosely used as a replacement for emerging economies, but really signifies a business phenomenon that is not fully described by or constrained to geography or economic strength; such countries are considered to be in a transitional phase between developing and developed status. Examples of emerging markets include Indonesia, Iran, some countries of Latin America, some countries in Southeast Asia, South Korea, most countries in Eastern Europe, Russia, some countries in the Middle East, and parts of Africa. Emphasizing the fluid nature of the category, political scientist Ian Bremmer defines an emerging market as "a country where politics matters at least as much as economics to the markets".[6]

The research on emerging markets is diffused within management literature. While researchers including, George Haley, Vladimir Kvint, Hernando de Soto, Usha Haley, and several professors from Harvard Business School and Yale School of Management have described activity in countries such as India and China, how a market emerges is little understood.

In 1999, Dr. Kvint published this definition: "Emerging market country is a society transitioning from a dictatorship to a free-market-oriented-economy, with increasing economic freedom, gradual integration with the Global Marketplace and with other members of the GEM (Global Emerging Market), an expanding middle class, improving standards of living, social stability and tolerance, as well as an increase in cooperation with multilateral institutions"[7] In 2008 Emerging Economy Report,[8] the Center for Knowledge Societies defines Emerging Economies as those "regions of the world that are experiencing rapid informationalization under conditions of limited or partial industrialization." It appears that emerging markets lie at the intersection of non-traditional user behavior, the rise of new user groups and community adoption of products and services, and innovations in product technologies and platforms.

More critical scholars have also studied key emerging markets like Mexico and Turkey. Thomas Marois (2012, 2) argues that financial imperatives have become much more significant and has developed the idea of 'emerging finance capitalism' - an era wherein the collective interests of financial capital principally shape the logical options and choices of government and state elites over and above those of labor and popular classes.[9]

Julien Vercueil[10] recently proposed an pragmatic definition of the "emerging economies", as distinguished from "emerging markets" coined by an approach heavily influenced by financial criteria. According to his definition, an emerging economy displays the following characteristics :

1. Intermediate income : its PPP per capita income is comprised between 10% and 75% of the average EU per capita income.

2. Catching-up growth : during at least the last decade, it has experienced a brisk economic growth that has narrowed the income gap with advanced economies.

3. Institutional transformations and economic opening : during the same period, it has undertaken profound institutional transformations which contributed to integrate it more deeply into the world economy. Hence, emerging economies appears to be a by-product of the current globalization.

At the beginning of the 2010s, more than 50 countries, representing 60% of the world's population and 45% of its GDP, matched these criteria.[11] Among them, the BRICS.

The term "rapidly developing economies" is being used to denote emerging markets such as The United Arab Emirates, Chile and Malaysia that are undergoing rapid growth.

In recent years, new terms have emerged to describe the largest developing countries such as BRIC that stands for Brazil, Russia, India, and China,[12] along with BRICET (BRIC + Eastern Europe and Turkey), BRICS (BRIC + South Africa), BRICM (BRIC + Mexico), BRICK (BRIC + South Korea), Next Eleven (Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Mexico, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, South Korea, Turkey, and Vietnam) and CIVETS (Colombia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Egypt, Turkey and South Africa).[13] These countries do not share any common agenda, but some experts believe that they are enjoying an increasing role in the world economy and on political platforms.

It is difficult to make an exact list of emerging (or developed) markets; the best guides tend to be investment information sources like ISI Emerging Markets and The Economist or market index makers (such as Morgan Stanley Capital International). These sources are well-informed, but the nature of investment information sources leads to two potential problems. One is an element of historicity; markets may be maintained in an index for continuity, even if the countries have since developed past the emerging market phase. Possible examples of this are South Korea[14] and Taiwan. A second is the simplification inherent in making an index; small countries, or countries with limited market liquidity are often not considered, with their larger neighbours considered an appropriate stand-in.

In an Opalesque.TV video, hedge fund manager Jonathan Binder discusses the current and future relevance of the term "emerging markets" in the financial world. Binder says that in the future investors will not necessarily think of the traditional classifications of "G10" (or G7) versus "emerging markets". Instead, people should look at the world as countries that are fiscally responsible and countries that are not. Whether that country is in Europe or in South America should make no difference, making the traditional "blocs" of categorization irrelevant.

The Big Emerging Market (BEM) economies are (alphabetically ordered): Brazil, China, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Philippines, Poland, Russia, South Africa, South Korea[14] and Turkey.[15]

Newly industrialized countries are emerging markets whose economies have not yet reached first world status but have, in a macroeconomic sense, outpaced their developing counterparts.

Individual investors can invest in emerging markets by buying into emerging markets or global funds. If they want to pick single stocks or make their own bets they can do it either through ADRs (American depositor Receipts - stocks of foreign companies that trade on US stock exchanges) or through exchange traded funds (exchange traded funds or ETFs hold basket of stocks). The exchange traded funds can be focused on a particular country (e.g., China, India) or region (e.g., Asia-Pacific, Latin America).
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 11:49:31 pm »

^^ OK, I'm not an economist, but it seems like the big picture is part of the reason why(at least) the destruction of America as well as other Western nations have been happening at a faster rate in recent years is b/c a lot of these less-developed countries are being allowed a bigger piece of the pie in the global competition, hence cutting into America and other Western nations. Yeah, it may be the case that these countries have made nice improvements, but at the same time they have a LONG way to go in terms of being a developed country.

Again, I'm not saying I'm correct here, but this just seems to be the case.

Emergent Church - Apostate Church group that's allowing VERY unbiblical teachings into their walls, which has forced out true biblical teachings and born again believers.

Emerging Markets - allows less-developed nations that are nowhere near developed nations, hence cutting into the pie of long-time developed nations like America and Europe.

So pretty much the term Emergent can also mean universal.
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b/c a lot of these less-developed countries are being allowed a bigger piece of the pie in the global competition, hence cutting into America and other Western nations.

Agreed. That is what has been happening with their "globalization" of the world economy.

In business, you always look for ways to cut expenses, right? Well, what better way than to cut employee pay, and they do that by moving their operations to areas that allow much lower pay and benefits, as well as loose regulations on manufacturing and safety.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2014, 06:55:28 pm »

Look at this buzzword "emerging" again(and look at what it's tied to in this example)...

Emerging Markets Expected to Drive Device Sales

LONDON – Consumers in developing countries like Brazil and China are set to continue as the main engine for sales growth for devices like smartphones and tablets in 2014, according to a research report published Tuesday.

In total, worldwide shipments of computers, tablets and smartphones are estimated to rise 7.6 percent this year, to 2.5 billion units, according to the figures from Gartner, the technology research company.

Consumers in developing economies, particularly Asian countries like India and Indonesia, are projected to buy these devices at significantly higher rates than in the United States and Western Europe, Gartner estimates.

Ranjit Atwal, research director in Gartner’s global forecasting team, said the continuing rise of a middle class in these emerging economies would be the main driver for growth, as those middle-class consumers upgraded their cellphones and bought new tablets.

That could provide an opportunity for low-cost manufacturers of devices that use Google’s Android operating systems. Companies like Huawei and ZTE have flooded the market with cheap smartphones in the hope of persuading local consumers to purchase more advanced cellphones and other mobile devices.

“In mature markets, we are reaching a saturation point,” Mr. Atwal said. “In emerging economies, smartphone adoption is still relatively low. People want to upgrade their handsets.”

Over the last three years, China has become the world’s largest smartphone market. About 40 percent of sales in the first nine months of 2013 were in Asia, according to the research firm Canalys.

But now other Asian countries are also on track to become important for hardware makers.

In particular, high-growth countries in the Asia-Pacific region like Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia are expected to report shipments of 529 million computers, tablets and smartphones this year, 20 percent more than 2013, according to Gartner’s statistics.

“There are 200 million middle-class customers in India alone,” Mr. Atwal said. “That’s a considerable opportunity.”

Despite the increased shipments of devices to emerging markets, analysts say many smartphone and tablet makers may still struggle to turn a profit.

Cutthroat competition between hardware makers has led to a continual fall in prices for devices. That has left many companies unable to benefit financially from consumers’ almost insatiable demand for the latest tech gadgets.

Nokia, for example, is expected to complete the sale of its handset division to Microsoft for $7.2 billion this quarter after losing its dominant market share in the smartphone industry to rivals like Apple.

And despite Android’s commanding position as the world’s most-used operating system for high-end phones, few manufacturers that rely on the software generate a profit from their handsets, according to research from Canaccord Genuity.

To compete against the global leaders like Samsung, which held a 32 percent market share for smartphones in the third quarter, analysts say rival phone makers must prove that their devices can offer a unique experience to consumers.

“Users want to look beyond Apple and Samsung,” said Mr. Atwal of Gartner. “Over the next two years, they will be open to trying something different.”
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A more vigorous US economy appears to be emerging

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy has rebounded with vigor from a grim start to 2014 and should show renewed strength into next year.

That was the general view of analysts Wednesday after the government estimated that the economy grew at a fast 4 percent annual rate in the April-June quarter. Consumers, businesses and governments joined to fuel the second-quarter expansion. The government also said growth was more robust last year than it had previously estimated.

Whether the healthier expansion will lead the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates sooner than expected is unclear. The Fed will issue a statement later Wednesday after ending a policy meeting.

The economy sprang back to life after a dismal winter in which it shrank at a sharp 2.1 percent annual rate. The government upgraded that figure from a previous estimate of a 2.9 percent drop. But it was still the biggest contraction since early 2009 in the depths of the Great Recession.

Last quarter's bounce-back reinforced analysts' view that the economy's momentum is extending into the second half of the year, when they forecast annual growth of around 3 percent.

The government also updated its estimates of growth leading into this year. They show the economy expanded in the second half of 2013 at the fastest pace in a decade and more than previously estimated. The revised data also show that the economy grew faster in 2013 than previously estimated, though more slowly in 2011 and 2012 than earlier thought.

The second quarter's growth in the gross domestic product — the total output of goods and services — was the fastest since a 4.5 percent increase in July-September quarter of 2013.

At the same time, a higher trade deficit slowed growth as imports outpaced an increase in exports.

Paul Ashworth, chief U.S. economist at Capital Economics, said that given last quarter's rebound, he's boosting his estimate for growth this year to 2 percent, up from a previous 1.7 percent forecast. Ashworth said the economy's growth also supported his view that the Fed will be inclined to start raising rates early next year.

Most economists have been predicting that the Fed would wait until mid-2015 to start raising rates.

"This GDP report supports our view that an improving economy will persuade the Fed to begin raising rates in March next year," Ashcroft wrote in a research note.

Ashcroft is among a group of economists who think growing strength in the job market and the economy will prod the Fed to move faster to raise rates to make sure inflation doesn't get out of hand.

Stock prices turned generally negative in the wake of the GDP report because some investors saw a greater likelihood that the Fed would raise rates sooner than expected.

"We're at the point where we're not sure if good news is good news or bad news," said Jim Paulsen, chief investment strategist at Wells Capital Management.

The GDP report showed that one measure of inflation rose 2 percent last quarter, up from a 1.3 percent rise in the first quarter. The Fed's inflation target is 2 percent, and for two years the GDP measure of inflation has been running below that level. Low inflation has given the Fed leeway to focus on boosting growth to fight high unemployment.

The economy's sudden contraction in the first quarter had resulted from several factors. A severe winter disrupted activity across industries and kept consumers away from shopping malls and auto dealerships. Consumer spending slowed to an annual growth rate of 1.2 percent, the weakest in nearly three years.

Last quarter, consumer spending accelerated to a growth rate of 2.5 percent. Spending on durable goods such as autos surged at a 14 percent annual rate, the biggest quarterly gain since 2009. Analysts said that was an encouraging sign of consumers' growing willingness to buy high-cost items like cars.

"Better job growth, a rising stock market, falling gasoline prices — all those things are starting to resonate on Main Street," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group.

Hoffman suggested that five straight months of job gains above 200,000 were buoying both consumer and business confidence. He predicted that the July jobs report, to be released Friday, would show job growth of around 225,000.

"I think the economy has finally moved from the slow lane to the passing lane," Hoffman said. He predicted growth of around 3 percent over the next year.

Still, he said he didn't think the faster growth would lead the Fed to accelerate its first rate increase. Even with higher prices last quarter, inflation remains within the Fed's 2 percent target.

Sung Won Sohn, an economics professor at California State University, Channel Islands, cautioned that risks remained, especially involving housing.

In the April-June quarter, business investment in equipment jumped at a 7 percent rate after having fallen in the first quarter. Businesses also increased their stockpiling. The increase in inventories contributed two-fifths of the growth in the quarter.

Housing, which had been falling for two straight quarters, rebounded in the spring, growing at a 7.5 percent annual rate.

Government spending also recovered after two consecutive declines. The strength came from state and local governments, which offset the seventh quarterly decline in federal government spending.

The government's revised estimates going back to 2011 show the economy expanded at an annual rate of 4.5 percent in last year's third quarter, up from a previous 4.1 percent estimate. The growth rate was 3.5 percent in the fourth quarter, up from an earlier 2.6 percent estimate.

For 2013 as a whole, the government said the economy grew 2.2 percent, up from its earlier 1.9 percent estimate. But growth was weaker in 2011 and 2012 than previously estimated. It grew 2.3 percent in 2012, down from 2.8 percent. And growth in 2011 was downgraded to 1.6 percent from 1.8 percent.
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