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Title: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: rakkarage on November 20, 2010, 02:30:25 pm
Psalm 50:1 The Mighty One, God, the LORD,
  speaks and summons the earth
  from the rising of the sun to where it sets.

Psalm 113:3 From the rising of the sun to the place where it sets,
  the name of the LORD is to be praised.

Isaiah 45:6 so that from the rising of the sun
  to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
  I am the LORD, and there is no other.

Malachi 1:11 My name will be great among the nations, from where the
sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings
will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the
nations,” says the LORD Almighty.

i know you claim to be lazy but... worshiping the Son at sunrise is commanded?

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The Holy Bible
Jeremiah 10:2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Scott Johnson
"lets see what the witches say..."

most Christian churches celebrate the rising of the Son on easter... instead of teaching the ways of the heathens?

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The Holy Bible
Luke 22:19
And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”

Scott Johnson
"no place in new testament does it says we should observe days, like in the old testament"

i cant find where it says not to celebrate the rising of the Son either?

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The Holy Bible
Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Scott Johnson
"hot cross buns... abomination... better to be a practicing witch..."

hope you are joking.

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also, sorry for being picky but, does your pronunciation of the word compromise have some meaning? are you trying to emphasis Promise or something?
http://www.forvo.com/word/compromise/

thanks


Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: rakkarage on November 20, 2010, 06:54:11 pm
worship of the Son at sunrise is commanded... learning the ways of the
heathen is forbidden... if we do learn the ways of the heathens and
find that they worship at sunrise too... does that change anything?


Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 21, 2010, 07:37:33 am
Easter falling on a different day each year should be a red flag right there that it's a pagan holiday.

I mean considering Jesus died and resurrected on a certain day 2000 years ago, why the heck would this certain day change every year? It's alot like saying how my birthday falls on some different day every year, which is just as ridiculous.



Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: rakkarage on November 21, 2010, 08:25:29 am
i did not dispute that it is based on a pagan holiday...


Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 21, 2010, 08:40:28 am
i did not dispute that it is based on a pagan holiday...


 ???

I was just responding further why churches and pastors today just cannot see this error which is right in front of their faces. I'm not going to judge them or anything, because I myself was blind to this my entire lifetime until I joined this MB last year.

Overall, you make alot of very good points with scripture about Easter, was just pointing out how pastors who are grounded in the Word of Truth for so many years just cannot see this grave error which is right in front of their faces.

Also, my dad said they determine Easter based on astrology - still, I am surprised why pastors still don't realize that astrology is condemned in scripture.


Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: Mark on November 21, 2010, 08:43:19 am
How is it paganism to worship God all day long? Why do you keep replacing Son and Sun? Are you a Jordan adhearant?

Son in no way equates to Sun. That only works in the minds of Theosophists. Are you a theosophist?


Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: rakkarage on November 21, 2010, 09:11:59 am
How is it paganism to worship God all day long?

are you talking to me? who said it is paganism to worship god all day? did you read what i posted?

From the rising of the sun to the place where it sets,
  the name of the LORD is to be praised.

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Why do you keep replacing Son and Sun? Are you a Jordan adhearant? Son in no way equates to Sun. That only works in the minds of Theosophists. Are you a theosophist?

i am pretty sure i did not replace son with son... i used each where appropriate...

i am mainly concerned with Scott Johnsons assertion that worship at sun rise is evil...

can anyone answer this question?

worship of the Son at sunrise is commanded... learning the ways of the
heathen is forbidden... if we do learn the ways of the heathens and
find that they worship at sunrise too... does that change anything?


Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: Mark on November 21, 2010, 09:30:45 am
How is it paganism to worship God all day long?

are you talking to me? who said it is paganism to worship god all day? did you read what i posted?

From the rising of the sun to the place where it sets,
  the name of the LORD is to be praised.

Maybe its the way you wrote it, but that is how i am reading it. maybe a clarification would be helpful?

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Why do you keep replacing Son and Sun? Are you a Jordan adhearant? Son in no way equates to Sun. That only works in the minds of Theosophists. Are you a theosophist?

i am pretty sure i did not replace son with son... i used each where appropriate...

i am mainly concerned with Scott Johnsons assertion that worship at sun rise is evil...

can anyone answer this question?

worship of the Son at sunrise is commanded... learning the ways of the
heathen is forbidden... if we do learn the ways of the heathens and
find that they worship at sunrise too... does that change anything?

As i said, that is the way its read. Im quite sure that certain Pagans do worship the sun at sunrise. The mystery schools for one did. Knowing that is not learning the ways of the heathens. Knowing exactly how they did it and putting it to practice would constitute learning the ways of the heathen. Solomon knew God, followed his ways until he becme old, he learned the ways of the heathen from his many heathen wives, with this knowledge he practiced the ways of the heathens. Do you see a differnece?



Title: Re: Easter/Ishtar: Paganism Repackaged
Post by: rakkarage on November 21, 2010, 08:11:42 pm
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Maybe its the way you wrote it, but that is how i am reading it. maybe a clarification would be helpful?

yes a clarification would be nice... please enlighten me why you would claim i said that "it is paganism to worship god all day". thanks

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As i said, that is the way its read.

learn to read... that is not the way it is read.

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Im quite sure that certain Pagans do worship the sun at sunrise.

i guess they do... so do some Christians...

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Knowing that is not learning the ways of the heathens.

scott does not say exactly (in this message) why he thinks it is wrong although he implies that it is because of the ways of the heathens is similar...

anyway... since you cannot or will not answer the question, and just respond with feigned (?) ignorance and personal attacks... i will try to make it simpler...

do you believe that worship at sunrise is wrong? and why?

this is not an argument you can win... scott says morning worship is wrong... the bible says it is right...