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Title: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 10, 2012, 01:05:28 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9073811/The-Pope-will-die-within-a-year-Vatican-assassination-fears-revealed.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9073811/The-Pope-will-die-within-a-year-Vatican-assassination-fears-revealed.html)

The Pope will die within a year: Vatican 'assassination fears' revealed

The Pope will die within the next 12 months, a senior Vatican figure has reportedly claimed amid fears of an assassination plot.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02052/pope_2052184b.jpg)

By Nick Squires, Rome

10:39AM GMT 10 Feb 2012


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The sensational prediction was allegedly made by Cardinal Paolo Romeo, the archbishop of Palermo in Sicily, on a recent visit to China.
 

Cardinal Romeo reportedly made the startling prediction of the Pope's death during a trip to China in November 2011.
 

He seemed so sure of the fact that the people he spoke with, including Italian businessmen and Chinese representatives of the Catholic Church, were convinced that he was talking about an assassination attempt.
 

They were so alarmed by his remarks that they reported them back to the Vatican.
 

The extraordinary comments were written up in a top-secret report, dated Dec 30, 2011, and delivered to the Pope by a senior cardinal, Dario Castrillon Hoyos, a Colombian, in January.
 


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 10, 2012, 01:05:52 pm
Vatican Fears Assassins May Target Pope In 2012 - Paper

An assassination attempt against Pope Benedict XVI may be carried out before November 2012, Italian Il Fatto Quotidiano daily reported on Friday, citing a confidential document that was delivered to the Holy See in January by Colombian Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos. The letter, written in German, cites Cardinal Paolo Romeo, the Archbishop of Palermo, who said during his visit to China in November 2011 that “the Pope will die” in the next 12 months, Il Fatto Quotidiano said. It is not known who stands behind the letter, the daily said. The previous Pope, John Paul II, survived a 1981 assassination attempt, although he was shot and gravely wounded by his attacker, Turkish national Mehmet Ali Agca. In 2006 an Italian parliamentary commission accused former Soviet leaders and the Bulgarian secret service of being behind the assassination plot.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20120210/171249830.html

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 10, 2012, 01:42:40 pm
You can't deny that Benedict has been a VERY hated guy - no, not saying any of the other Popes were good people et al, but nonetheless the previous ones were "well respected" by the "world", this one, not so much.

Whatever happens to him this year-whether he dies by natural causes or gets murdered...won't surprise me either way. Even if he does survive in 2012, you can't deny his age and bad health = not much longer to live.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 10, 2012, 02:54:08 pm
One look at the guy trying to move about and you be see the guy isn't going to be around much longer because of age alone. All those years living a lie has taken it's toll.

I am curious what game they are playing though to make such a statement, in China, knowing everybody is going to be running back to Rome with the news, and he would have to return to Rome himself to who knows what. I'm not sure who is trying to get whom involved, as all those people tend to be...unpredictable.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 13, 2012, 11:26:31 am
"Monsignors' mutiny" revealed by Vatican leaks

Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days the holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

"It is a total mess," said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

The Machiavellian maneuvering and machinations that have come to light in the Vatican recently are worthy of a novel about a sinister power struggle at a medieval court.

Senior church officials interviewed this month said almost daily embarrassments that have put the Vatican on the defensive could force Pope Benedict to act to clean up the image of its administration - at a time when the church faces a deeper crisis of authority and relevance in the wider world.

Some of those sources said the outcome of a power struggle inside the Holy See may even have a longer-term effect, on the choice of the man to succeed Benedict when he dies.

rest: http://news.yahoo.com/monsignors-mutiny-revealed-vatican-leaks-140524856.html

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ITALIAN POPE?

Last week, an Italian newspaper that has published some of the leaks ran a bizarre internal Vatican memo that involved one cardinal complaining about another cardinal who spoke about a possible assassination attempt against the pope within 12 months and openly speculated on who the next pope should be.

Bertone's detractors say he has packed the Curia with Italian friends. Some see an attempt to influence the election of the next pope and increase the chances that the papacy returns to Italy after two successive non-Italian popes who have broken what had been an Italian monopoly for over 450 years.

Seven of the 18 new "cardinal electors" -- those aged under 80 eligible to elect a pope -- at this Saturday's consistory are Italian. Six of those work for Bertone in the Curia.

Bertone, as chief administrator, had a key role in advising the pope on the appointments, which raised eyebrows because of the high number of Italian bureaucrats among them.

"There is widespread malaise and delusion about Bertone inside the Curia. It is full of complaints," said the bishop who has close knowledge of Vatican affairs.

"Bertone has had a very brash method of running the Vatican and putting his friends in high places. People could not take it any more and said 'enough' and that is why I think these leaks are coming out now to make him look bad," he said.

POPE "ISOLATED"

Leaked confidential cables sent to the State Department by the U.S. embassy to the Vatican depicted him as a "yes man" with no diplomatic experience or linguistic skills and the 2009 cable suggests that the pope is protected from bad news.

"There is also the question of who, if anyone, brings dissenting views to the pope's attention," read the cable, published by WikiLeaks.

The Vatican sources said some cardinals asked the pope to replace Bertone because of administrative lapses, including the failure to warn the pope that a renegade bishop re-admitted to the Church in 2009 was a well-known Holocaust denier.

But they said the pope, at 84 and increasingly showing the signs of his age, is not eager to break in a new right-hand man.

"It's so complicated and the pope is so helpless," said the monsignor.

The bishop said: "The pope is very isolated. He lives in his own world and some say the information he receives is filtered. He is interested in his books and his sermons but he is not very interested in government."



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 13, 2012, 12:20:55 pm
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"It's so complicated and the pope is so helpless," said the monsignor.

But wait, the pope is suppose to be like God on earth or something right? And he's "helpless"? So much for infallible!  ::)

A house divided cannot stand.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 16, 2012, 03:47:51 pm
Vatican Leaks Expose Power Struggle Among Contenders For Pope Petrus Romanus

The flurry of leaks has come at an embarrassing time — just before a usually joyful ceremony this week known as a consistory, when Benedict will admit more prelates into the College of Cardinals, the exclusive men’s club that will one day pick the next Roman Catholic leader from among their own ranks. “This consistory will be taking place in an atmosphere that is certainly not very glorious or exalting,” said one bishop with direct knowledge of Vatican affairs. The sources agreed that the leaks were part of an internal campaign — a sort of “mutiny of the monsignors” — against the Pope’s right-hand man, Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone. Bertone, 77, has a reputation as a heavy-handed administrator and power-broker whose style has alienated many in the Curia, the bureaucracy that runs the central administration of the 1.3 billion-strong Roman Catholic Church.

http://news.yahoo.com/monsignors-mutiny-revealed-vatican-leaks-140524856.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 16, 2012, 03:48:50 pm
Twisted Ritual At Grammy Awards Sees (Peter The) Roman Possessed By Powerful Demons

Is there an insider ‘nudge, nudge, wink, wink’ about Minaj’s red carpet walk last night, escorted by ‘The Pope’? Given the news two days ago that someone inside the Vatican predicts that the Pope will die within a year, perhaps the ‘failed exorcism’ and the triumph of Satan at the end of the performance telegraph that a major shift is on its way. The song featured in the video is from Minaj’s newest album, and it centered around her alter-ego, Roman Zolanski (an obvious tribute to the director of Rosemary’s Baby and husband to Charles Manson victim Sharon Tate: Roman Polanski). The short film that opens the act shows a concerned white woman who asks a white Catholic priest to go upstairs and help her son Roman. The priest enters the bedroom to find ‘Roman’ (Minaj behaving crazily, wearing a cheap blond wig and a dress, singing ‘I feel pretty’). When confronted by the priest, Roman scrambles up the wall and hisses from the ceiling and whispers ‘You don’t belong here.” The priest asks the ‘demon’ his name. It screams ‘Roman!’ This sets up the remainder of the performance, live onstage. The set features a backdrop of massive, stained glass windows and Roman columns. Minaj is tied to a sacrificial altar in the center, high above the dancers.

http://sharonkgilbert.com/?p=1752


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 17, 2012, 08:45:58 am
‘Is Nicki Minaj possessed?’ asks Catholic League president

Nicki Minaj was sending a religious message with her Catholic-themed “Roman Holiday” performance at Sunday night’s Grammy awards. But what was it?

First, the pop star arrived on the red carpet escorted by a man who appears to be playing the part of a pope or bishop.

Minaj’s performance contained it all: a Catholic confession scene, and apparent demonic possession, followed by a series of break dancing monks, chanting choir boys and one levitating songstress.

The Twittersphere was apparently unable to make spiritual heads or tails of her art, but in a statement, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League was sure that her Catholic collage of a performance was intended to insult Catholics.

None of this was by accident, and all of it was approved by The Recording Academy, which puts on the Grammys. Whether Minaj is possessed is surely an open question, but what is not in doubt is the irresponsibility of The Recording Academy. Never would they allow an artist to insult Judaism or Islam.
It’s bad enough that Catholics have to fight for their rights vis-à-vis a hostile administration in Washington without also having to fend off attacks in the entertainment industry. The net effect, however, will only embolden Catholics, as well as their friends in other faith communities.

rest: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/is-nicki-minaj-possessed-asks-catholic-league-president/2012/02/13/gIQAf0t8AR_blog.html?wprss=rss_national


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 17, 2012, 02:45:29 pm
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Never would they allow an artist to insult Judaism or Islam.

Really? This person apparently has never watched a Mel Brooks movie! Uh Billy Crystal, hello!

Give me a break. Not much worse than a whiney Catholic. Of course Minaj is possessed, with the spirit of unbelief. It's kinda right there in the bible, well at lest in the real bible.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 19, 2012, 03:32:50 pm
Part 7 added above  :)


On Saturday, 22 Cardinals Joined The College That Will Elect Petrus Romanus. Conclave Seen As Imminent

Preparations for the ceremony were clouded by leaks of internal documents alleging financial mismanagement in Vatican affairs, and reports in the Italian media of political jockeying among church officials who, sensing an increasingly weak and aging pontiff, are already preparing for a conclave. Benedict was wheeled into St. Peter's Basilica aboard the moving platform he has been using for several months to spare him the long walk down the center aisle. Benedict, who turns 85 in April, has been slowing down recently. Even Saturday's consistory was greatly trimmed back to a slimmer version of the service used in 1969: only one of the cardinals actually read his oath of loyalty aloud, while the others read it silently to themselves simultaneously rather than one after another. A reading was cut out, as was a responsorial psalm. And at the end of his remarks, Benedict said: "And pray for me, that I may continually offer to the people of God the witness of sound doctrine and guide the holy church with a firm and humble hand." All of which has led to even more speculation that a conclave is very much on the minds of cardinals new and old.

http://news.yahoo.com/22-cardinals-join-club-elect-popes-successor-092632288.html


Is Petrus Romanus Among The New Cardinals?

On Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI created 22 cardinals, in the fourth consistory of his papacy, bringing the total number of cardinals to 214 of whom 125 are under 80 years old and electors, meaning that they can elect the next pope. In 1970, Pope Paul VI set 120 as the number of electors for a pope and it can certainly be reduced by the next conclave, which is the gathering when a new pope is elected. The College of Cardinals was formalized in 1059 by Pope Nicholas 11, who designated cardinals as the electors of the new pope. And today the next pope will be chosen from one of the 125 since only a cardinal can be made a pope.

http://impact.nj.com/jjournal-news/print.html?entry=/2012/02/is_the_next_pope_among_the_new.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 19, 2012, 03:33:25 pm
Power Struggle Between Vatican, Pope's Secretary

Analysts said there is a power struggle going on between factions inside the Vatican and that the pope's deputy Secretary of State, Tarcisio Bertone, is in the middle of it. "There is a great discontent within in the Roman Curia," said Marco Politi. "The out-products of this discontent are back-stabbing, intrigues, anonymous letters about plots, but the main thing is that Cardinal Bertone, who is the Secretary of State, was never accepted by the Curia because he was an outsider." Cardinal Delegate Timothy Dolan said: "I see the successor of Peter, the chief pastor of the church longing to tend to pastoral, spiritual issues. And I am sure if there is anybody frustrated about reports of internal infighting, it is he. And if I, as a new member of the College of Cardinals, can help him keep the church universal and the government of the church... riveted on the issues of the gospel, I would be honored to and I would take that as one of my duties."

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/30486107/detail.html


Pressure On U.S. Bishops To Reassert Pre-Vatican II Authoritarianism, Petrus Romanus Needed

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is a powerful institution, at least on paper. But a recent debate over contraception coverage has exposed a deep divide between the 271 active bishops and the rank-and-file U.S. Catholics who are supposed to follow their moral authority. It also has raised questions about why some prominent Catholic intuitions ignore the bishops’ teachings – and whether the bishops will be able to reassert their authority. The gulf has left some politicians, ever eager to court the Catholic vote, struggling to figure out who now speaks for the Church. Some ordinary Catholics in the pews are wondering the same.

http://www.cathnewsusa.com/2012/02/catholic-bishops-fight-for-authority-over-u-s-flock/


Suddenly, The Vatican Is Full Of Moles And Spies

Confidential documents of the Secretariat of State have been leaked to the press with the objective of damaging Cardinal Bertone, but they ended up having the opposite effect. It was a particularly peaceful Sunday in the Apostolic Palace. Swiss Guards in civilian clothes escorted the guests with their usual tranquillity, in glaring contrast to the nervous anxiety with which the mass media have been following step by step the indiscretions that have leaked from the Vatican. The recent publications of confidential Vatican documents appear to be aimed at giving the impression that there is a conspiracy against a severely ill Pope, but how much awareness of it there is within the papal household in relation to these rumours?


http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/the-vatican/detail/articolo/romeo-vigano-ior-bertone-12589/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 19, 2012, 03:50:19 pm
Part 7 added above  :)


On Saturday, 22 Cardinals Joined The College That Will Elect Petrus Romanus. Conclave Seen As Imminent

Preparations for the ceremony were clouded by leaks of internal documents alleging financial mismanagement in Vatican affairs, and reports in the Italian media of political jockeying among church officials who, sensing an increasingly weak and aging pontiff, are already preparing for a conclave. Benedict was wheeled into St. Peter's Basilica aboard the moving platform he has been using for several months to spare him the long walk down the center aisle. Benedict, who turns 85 in April, has been slowing down recently. Even Saturday's consistory was greatly trimmed back to a slimmer version of the service used in 1969: only one of the cardinals actually read his oath of loyalty aloud, while the others read it silently to themselves simultaneously rather than one after another. A reading was cut out, as was a responsorial psalm. And at the end of his remarks, Benedict said: "And pray for me, that I may continually offer to the people of God the witness of sound doctrine and guide the holy church with a firm and humble hand." All of which has led to even more speculation that a conclave is very much on the minds of cardinals new and old.

http://news.yahoo.com/22-cardinals-join-club-elect-popes-successor-092632288.html


Is Petrus Romanus Among The New Cardinals?

On Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI created 22 cardinals, in the fourth consistory of his papacy, bringing the total number of cardinals to 214 of whom 125 are under 80 years old and electors, meaning that they can elect the next pope. In 1970, Pope Paul VI set 120 as the number of electors for a pope and it can certainly be reduced by the next conclave, which is the gathering when a new pope is elected. The College of Cardinals was formalized in 1059 by Pope Nicholas 11, who designated cardinals as the electors of the new pope. And today the next pope will be chosen from one of the 125 since only a cardinal can be made a pope.

http://impact.nj.com/jjournal-news/print.html?entry=/2012/02/is_the_next_pope_among_the_new.html

So if I understand this correctly, the 22 new created number of cardinals, bringing the total to over 200/125 whom are under 80, potentially means this is the next step to electing a new pope?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 19, 2012, 08:50:13 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/names-cardinals-elevated-pope-benedict-112230667.html

2/18/12

Names of new cardinals elevated by Pope Benedict

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Saturday elevated 22 prelates to the rank of cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church at a solemn ceremony in St Peter's Basilica. Here are their names.
 
Under 80 years old and eligible to enter a conclave to elect the next pope:
 
1. Archbishop Fernando Filoni, Italian, prefect of the Vatican's Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples.
 
2. Archbishop Manuel Monteiro de Castro, Portuguese, head of Vatican office that deals with the sacrament of penance.
 
3. Archbishop Santos Abril y Castello, Spanish, archpriest of the Rome basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore.
 
4. Archbishop Antonio Maria Veglio, Italian, head of the Vatican's Council for Pastoral Care of Migrants.
 
5. Archbishop Giuseppe Bertello, Italian, governor of Vatican City.
 
6. Archbishop Francesco Coccopalmerio, Italian, president of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts.
 
7. Archbishop Joao Braz de Aviz, Brazilian, prefect of the Vatican's Congregation for Consecrated Life.
 
8. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien, American, Grandmaster of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.
 
9. Archbishop Domenico Calcango, Italian, President of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Holy See.
 
10. Archbishop Giuseppe Versaldi, Italian, president of the Vatican's Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See.
 
11. His Beatitude George Alencherry, Indian, major archbishop of the Siro-Malabar rite in India.
 
12. Archbishop Thomas Christopher Collins, Canadian, archbishop of Toronto.
 
13. Archbishop Dominik Duka, Czech, archbishop of Prague
 
14. Archbishop Willem Jacobus Eijk, Dutch, archbishop of Utrecht, Netherlands.
 
15. Archbishop Giuseppe Betori, Italian, archbishop of Florence.
 
16. Archbishop Timothy Michael Dolan, American, archbishop of New York.
 
17. Archbishop Rainer Maria Woelki, German, archbishop of Berlin.
 
18. Archbishop John Tong Hon, Chinese, archbishop of Hong Kong.
 
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Over 80 and therefore not eligible to enter a conclave:
 
1. His Beatitude Lucian Muresan, Romanian, major archbishop of Fagaras and Alba Iulia in Romania.
 
2. Father Julien Ries, Belgian, professor emeritus of religious history at the Catholic University of Louvain.
 
3. Father Prosper Grech, Maltese, professor emeritus of various Italian universities.
 
4. Father Karl Becker, German, of the Gregorian University in Rome.
 
(Reporting By Philip Pullella; Editing by Alistair Lyon)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 20, 2012, 01:29:18 pm
It does appear they are getting things set up for another pope. I have no doubt they know something we don't.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 20, 2012, 06:10:50 pm
It does appear they are getting things set up for another pope. I have no doubt they know something we don't.

Jesus is on the throne and he is in control - however, he says to "Watch" in the last days. This is yet another piece of the puzzle being set in play, among many others that have been so as well. And a potential big piece it could be!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 22, 2012, 07:13:37 am
Program Note: Steve, Tom Horn and Chris Putnam guest on Omega Man Radio Wed. Feb 22; 6p.m. PST / 7p.m. MTN / 8p.m. CST / 9p.m. EST. Topic: Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope And The Annunciation Of The Antichrist. Listen Live / Chat. Call In: 1-917-889-2745.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/omegamanradio/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 26, 2012, 11:06:20 am
Part 9 added above

One Day After Tom Horn Tells Steve Quayle On Omega Man Radio That The Vatican Is Being Ruled By 'Omerta' Code Of Silence, Whistle-Blower In Holy See Claims Same

The mole claims to be one of more than 20 people within the Holy See who have leaked sensitive documents to the Italian media in the last few weeks, in an affair that has been compared to the WikiLeaks scandal and dubbed "Vati-leaks". The unidentified man, who said he had worked in the Vatican for more than 20 years, made the claims in an interview to be aired on Italian television on Wednesday night. His face was hidden and his voice digitally distorted when he appeared on the TV channel, La7. According to extracts of the interview, the whistle-blower said the Vatican was engulfed in intrigue, secrecy and a climate of intimidation. "Maybe there is a kind of omerta to prevent the truth from surfacing. Not because of a power struggle but maybe because of fear," he added.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9098846/Vatican-ruled-by-omerta-code-of-silence-whistle-blower-claims.html

Bertone Leaves "Poisonous" Atmosphere In Vatican To Visit Hospitalized Children

Today, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone took a breather from the poisonous atmosphere of the Vatican, to visit the paediatric ward at Potenza hospital in Southern Italy (Ospedale Pediatrico Bambino Gesù). The cardinal appeared moved as he spoke to the hospitalised children and responded to some questions put to him by journalists, regarding the state of health care in Italy and the recent controversies over the situation in the Vatican. Speaking to doctors from the hospital, the cardinal said: “Besides your professionalism you also have good hearts.” Bertone then emphasised the importance “of relations between health care workers: serenity and cohesion – he concluded – aid healing.”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/news/detail/articolo/bertone-vigano-ior-12950/

Is The World And Church Ready For An American Pope?

In just a decade, Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York City, has risen from a local bishop to becoming a prince of the Catholic Church. He returned from Rome after receiving his cardinal's red hat and ring, like a rock star; a bevy of cameras and lights in tow. Worldwide buzz around the newly minted Cardinal Dolan is that with his popularity, political savvy, and passion for the church, the question is being raised as to whether he could be the first American pope. And it's more than just wishful thinking "There is something qualitatively different about the speculation surrounding Cardinal Dolan in New York right now..."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/24/american-pope/?test=latestnews

Vatican Insider Sending Secret Acknowledgment Concerning Masonic Connection To Next Conclave? Publishes Article Repeatedly Referring To 33%

"Agnosco stilum Curiae...", a play on words meaning ‘I recognize the style of the Roman Church’ but also ‘I recognize the dagger of the Roman Church.’ Well, this time it seems  rather more like an axe than a dagger and  not even a well concealed one... It would therefore be feasible to say that for each of them there was a 33% chance of being responsible for leaking said document to the press. An epistle in which  every word was steeped in rancour and bitterness, all because of a desired nomination to cardinalship that didn’t happen and perhaps now never will... There is however a 33% chance that it was actually the Nuncio himself, who,  livid about the promotion he did not receive, was directly or indirectly responsible for the infamous leak. That 33% chance is enough to lead us to believe that maybe Benedict XVI did the right thing by not...
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/blog-san-pietro-e-dintorni-en/detail/articolo/vigano-us-12069/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 04, 2012, 09:55:44 am
Part's 10 and 11 added above

From Africa To Italy - National Newspapers Herald The Coming Of Petrus Romanus In 2012... And Tie His Arrival To The Third Secret Of Fatima!(Rough translation into English)

There is already talk of the Third Secret of Fatima and the Prophecy of Malachi. The response is then unearthly? The news that there is a plot to kill the Pope is serious, very serious. Reflect for a moment. As far as revealed by the Journal of Labor Marco, the currently reigning pope, Benedict XVI, will die within 12 months. The news was contained in a document circulated in German at the Vatican "not to make that clear to many people... the director of the Fact Daily during "Public Service", the transmission of Michele Santoro - "Both sides of Cardinal thought that Romeo is planning an assassination attempt against the pontiff. " ...The author of the piece, Marco Lillo, who has obtained a document that Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, president emeritus of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei would be delivered to the Holy Father points out that: "The document speaks of mordkomplott , ie homicidal plot against the Pope... the famous" Prophecy of the Popes where under the motto of 111 ° there is a disturbing sentence: "In persecutione extrema sacrae romanae ecclesiae sedebit Petrus Romanus...
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/thefinalpope.htm

Catholic Political Scientist Proposes Elevating Authority Of Petrus Romanus To “Papal Presidentialism” And The Idea Of An Expanded [Final] Conclave

Galli Della Loggia starts by analyzing the “malicious rumours,” the “more or less controlled leaks,” and the unedifying “behind the scenes” drama that have recently characterized the Roman Curia: elements that reveal “a fierce battle over the direction of the ecclesiastical institution” - a “clash of power” that ends up discrediting the Church. According to the political scientist, the Pope’s power only appears absolute. In reality he must - even in nominations - consider “factions” and the “inevitable dominance of alliances and cliques over the careers of senior clergymen,” as well as “exaggerated personal ambitions.” In the face of all this, the political scientist speaks of a desire for “democratization,” though he quips about the “ill-defined ‘greater collegiality of decisions’ and “never quite defined ‘return to the spirit of the Council’.” Galli Della Loggia wonders if the answer is actually to be found in “the direction of democracy,” proposing an alternative solution: “a further strengthening of the role of the Pope.”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/benedetto-xvi-benedict-xvi-benedicto-xvi-13142/

Theologian Asks, Why Take The Prophecy Of The Popes Seriously?

Now, we are not exactly trying to prove a scientific theory, but the idea is that we want to have this sort of methodology in mind as we evaluate the Prophecy of the Popes. We are not arguing that all of it will stand up to this level of rigor. We are confident that the Christian worldview explains the reality we observe much better than the naturalistic theories advocated by most scientists. Our faith is grounded in evidence of a historical nature and we are confident and encouraged by the level of intellectual scrutiny that things like the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection can endure. Accordingly, we have no agenda to meet with the Prophecy of the Popes. It either authenticates itself on its merit or it becomes a conversation piece. We mentioned above that one prophecy in particular grabbed our attention in a way that prompted willingness to invest in the research. Benedict XV was assigned the motto Religio depopulate: “religion depopulated.”
http://www.logosapologia.org/?p=3351


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on April 16, 2012, 05:41:38 am
Pope marks milestones amid signs of frailty, succession talk

Pope Benedict marks two milestones this week and while his health appears stable, signs of frailty have again prompted speculation over whether he will be the first pontiff in seven centuries to resign.

...When he left for Mexico and Cuba, he used a cane at the airport for the first time in public, though sources say he has been using it in private for some time.

Last year, to conserve his strength, he began using a mobile platform instead of walking up the aisle of St Peter's Basilica.

The Vatican says it is to spare him fatigue and there is no concern about his overall health. His brother has said Benedict suffered two mild strokes before his election in 2005 and he reportedly suffers from high blood pressure and arthritis.

WOULD CONSIDER RESIGNING

Where Benedict differs from his predecessors is that he is the only pope in living memory to discuss publicly the possibility of resignation, though others have done so privately.

In a book in 2010, Benedict said he would not hesitate to become the first pontiff to resign willingly in more than 700 years if he felt no longer able, "physically, psychologically and spiritually" to run the Catholic Church.

"Those of us who are over 75 are not allowed to run even a small diocese and cardinals over 80 are not allowed to elect a pope. I can understand why one day the pope might say 'even I can't do my job any more,'" said retired Archbishop Luigi Bettazzi of the north Italian city of Ivrea.

"I wish him a long life and lasting lucidity but I think that if the moment arrives when he sees that things are changing, I think he has the courage to resign," Bettazzi told Italian television on Saturday.

The last pope to resign willingly was Celestine V in 1294 after reigning for only five months. Gregory XII reluctantly abdicated in 1415 to end a dispute with a rival claimant to the papacy.

Every papal birthday or anniversary sparks talk of succession but there is no clear front runner to succeed Benedict, who has now appointed more than half the cardinals who will choose a new pope from among their ranks. Most are Europeans...

full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/15/us-pope-idUSBRE83E06220120415


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on April 16, 2012, 12:09:29 pm
That's a rather candid admission of mortality. Surprising that a pope would say such things in public.


It's also interesting that in his rather short term, he's managed to appoint half the cardinals that will elect a successor. Where did the other cardinals go? Do they retire or something or have a term limit? I mean once your a cardinal, basically you stay a cardinal. I gather that only a certain number of cardinals vote?  :-\


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 17, 2012, 06:04:00 pm
I briefly read a headline that said Benedict turned 85 recently, or will soon. Can't remember which. Either way, his age is really showing.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on April 18, 2012, 03:13:22 am
Uh, 85 yesterday!

Strange that they are talking resignation, when with John Paul, I don't remember any talk of resignation. He was pope till he died, and the last several years he was barely getting around and you could hardly understand what he was mumbling.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on April 18, 2012, 04:04:01 am
Uh, 85 yesterday!

Strange that they are talking resignation, when with John Paul, I don't remember any talk of resignation. He was pope till he died, and the last several years he was barely getting around and you could hardly understand what he was mumbling.



maybe they are on a time line?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on April 18, 2012, 04:05:35 am
Could be.


Title: Leaks reveal bitter Vatican power struggle
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 29, 2012, 11:54:12 am
http://news.yahoo.com/leaks-reveal-bitter-vatican-power-struggle-031953190.html

5/28/12

..

The flood of secret Vatican documents leaked to the press, enraging the Holy See, aims to oust the Church's powerful number two and maybe to replace the pope himself, experts say.
 
The so-called "Vatileaks" scandal is a plot within the intrigue-filled Vatican City to unseat Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone, seen by some as wielding too much power and not acting in the Church's interests, they say.
 
"The documents that have been leaked all concern Bertone in one way or another," Marco Politi, Vatican expert for Il Fatto Quotidiano daily, told AFP.
 
"This is all about damaging him to get a new secretary of state," he added.
 
As the Vatican moves to root out whistle blowers who have been copying and leaking private documents straight from Pope Benedict XVI's desk, rumours have been circulating in the Italian media over whether the plot may run deeper.
 
Frustration over the management of Church scandals in recent years -- from allegations of money-laundering to clerical sex abuse -- has apparently led some to begin preparing the way for their chosen candidate to become future pope.
 
"A group of cardinals has begun to act on a very ambitious aim: to take the secretary of state, and then, conquer the conclave (the assembly which elects a new pope) with a chosen pope among them," said La Repubblica newspaper.
 
Bertone, a close ally of Benedict, has sparked controversy in some quarters, in particular over his management of the Vatican bank, which has come to symbolise the opacity and scandal gripping the Holy See's administration.
 
The leaked documents have shed light on many Vatican secrets, including the Church's tax problems, child sex scandals and negotiations with hardline traditionalist rebels.
 
Although they do not reveal any great surprises, the secret papers have lifted the lid on deep-seated venom among rival figures in the Vatican.
 
Leaks in January revealed a bitter battle between Bertone and Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, who had been attempting to clean up the Vatican's finances when he was removed from his post -- allegedly for cracking down on corruption.
 
Vigano wrote to the pope and begged not to be punished for rooting out examples of favours, waste and financial mismanagement which set the Vatican back millions of euros (dollars) in higher contract prices -- but to no avail.
 
Insiders say the pope was not strong enough to challenge Bertone's decision.
 
"These leaks are bullets aimed at Bertone. They want to sink him, to force him to resign," Italian theologist Vito Mancuso told journalists last week.
 
The cardinal, 78, also infuriated critics last week for his reported role in pushing the Vatican bank to oust its head, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi -- an expert on financial ethics -- for not toeing the line.
 
Gotti Tedeschi had been tasked with getting the Vatican on the "white list" of financially virtuous countries, but frictions arose when Bertone insisted on maintaining the bank's independence and appeared intent on watering down a new transparency law.
 
"Bertone has too much power. We have to expose the rot in the Church," one of the Vatican moles told La Repubblica. "Those who leak, do it for the good of the pope," the source said.
 
Tensions rose to boiling point at the beginning of last week when the Vatican threatened to sue journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi for his new book, "His Holiness", which gathers together a whole host of freshly leaked documents.
 
In a move to stem the leaks, the Vatican quickly arrested Benedict's personal butler Paolo Gabriele for possessing secret papers, and it is currently questioning many others who work in close proximity with the pope.
 
Rumours are that there are around 20 whistle blowers who have been supplying the media with documents -- at least two have spoken out anonymously -- and it is not clear if the Holy See will be able to patch up the damage done so far.
 
"What's certain is that Tarcisio Bertone will not come out of this in a positive light," said Vatican expert Sandro Magister.
 
"The shortcomings of his governance are clear for all to see," he said, adding that the pope might replace him "in the next few months."
 
According to expert Bruno Bartoloni, the "Vatileaks" scandal may be the last straw for many in an institution dogged by bad governance and corruption.
 
"This scandal has enormous consequences, it will create unease and exasperation among the cardinals," he said.
 
"They want to find someone who can do a serious clean up. But in cleaning up, they risk starting a revolution," he added.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on May 29, 2012, 03:47:40 pm
This thing is about as scandalous as it gets, right to the pope himself.

Where's that popcorn again?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 29, 2012, 03:55:39 pm
This thing is about as scandalous as it gets, right to the pope himself.

Where's that popcorn again?

Or how about some cashews and blueberry juice? ;D

Yeah, things are really boiling over now - not just in the Vatican, but in the Eurozone, the ME, here in America...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 29, 2012, 04:31:59 pm
Quote
Insiders say the pope was not strong enough to challenge Bertone's decision.

woops. what happened to that Vicar of christ?  :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 07, 2012, 07:08:56 am
Coast to Coast AM : Petrus Romanus Prophecy of the Popes with Tom Horn (June 3, 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5zY0Q7Gmxk




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on June 07, 2012, 03:52:35 pm
Very interesting interview. Seems Horn is thinking along the same lines I am about the Vatican and the pope, though I haven't been up on this whole pope conspiracy thing. Not surprising really. I can see a group coming forward, even taking over the Vatican in the name of returning to Vatican 1. But I have little doubt the pope is the position that the False Prophet will arise from, and more and more, I'm thinking that the Antichrist will arise out of Islam, with the RCC giving it's support to Islam, maybe with some kind of assurances that Islam will allow the Jews access to the Temple Mount for worship.

My only hitch to all this is the question of the temple itself. I have been thinking that it must be rebuilt, but now I'm not so sure, because the Abomination of Desolation could possibly be simply the Antichrist standing on the Termple Mount, say in the mosque, and make his declaration, no actual temple needed, and no temple would be needed for rabbis to perform various worship services, even sacrifices on an alter built old school with unshapen stones that are freestacked by hand.

How far along in this process will believers be around? There are varying opinions, but we indeed will see this thing start to unravel before we leave I think.

And then there are the "Two Witnesses". When do they show up in all this?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 28, 2012, 08:14:12 am
Potential pope candidate speaks at UD
Cardinal Peter Turkson  touts business education


One of the world’s leading Catholic theologians, who also has been mentioned as a potential candidate for pope, believes the values and principles of his faith can be applied to help any CEO or a company’s success. Cardinal Peter Turkson, who was appointed in 2009 by Pope Benedict XVI to lead the church’s peace and justice council, said a career in business “is a noble pursuit.” “At its best and most true to its nature and potential, business serves the common good,” he said. Turkson, an outspoken advocate for reform of the world’s financial system, was the keynote speaker Monday at the 8th International Conference on Catholic Social Thought and Management Education held at the University of Dayton.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/potential-pope-candidate-speaks-at-ud-1393170.html?cxtype=rss_local-news


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 28, 2012, 08:18:06 am
Peter Turkson Seen As Secret Rival Of Peter Bertone, Wants Nations Of The World To Surrender Authority To “Global Public Authority” And “Central World Bank”

It followed the October 24, 2011, document, “Toward Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority,” which amounted to a call by the Vatican for a World Political and Financial Authority. Published by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, which is headed by Cardinal Peter Turkson, the media was quick—inside and outside Christianity—to see the dark side of socialism raising its head, not to mention prophetic implications of the paper’s call for a Global Authority seated inside the United Nations. In a chapter in our book Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope Is Here we explain how this new unsettling directive attempts to devise a “moral” mandate for establishing “a global public authority” and “a central world bank” that would oversee individual and world pecuniary institutions through subjugation to a new global power made “at the cost of a gradual, balanced transfer of a part of each nation’s powers to a world authority...

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/petrus-eleven.htm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 10, 2012, 02:29:37 pm
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96527:popes-visit-to-lebanon-is-risky-priest-warns&catid=76:world&Itemid=560

Pope’s visit to Lebanon is risky, priest warns

8/24/12

FATHER Paolo Dall’Oglio, a Jesuit priest who was recently forced to leave Syria, has warned that Pope Benedict XVI ‘s safety could be at risk during a planned visit to Lebanon next month.

The pope is due to visit Lebanon from September 14-16 to bring a message of peace and call for greater respect for religious pluralism.

Even though his special protective car – the “popemobile” – has been sent to Beirut, questions are swirling about the safety of a trip to a country linked to the raging conflict in Syria.

The pope “must ask for help from a secret service that can guarantee his security. Because the Lebanese services are not sufficient in this situation,” Dall’Oglio warned.

Lebanon’s Sunni communities largely oppose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, while its Alawites, who belong to the same minority as the Syrian leader, are pro-Damascus. Deadly clashes between the two groups are on the rise.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on September 11, 2012, 03:34:11 am
Pope in Lebanon in this environment? Even I think that's a bad Idea. If nothing else, what do a bunch of Muslims want with a non-Muslim pope? Nothing that I can think of.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 11, 2012, 08:39:05 am
Pope in Lebanon in this environment? Even I think that's a bad Idea. If nothing else, what do a bunch of Muslims want with a non-Muslim pope? Nothing that I can think of.

Was thinking the same thing - what would ANYONE be doing in that environment at this time? No, not saying anything will happen to the Pope this weekend, but with all the rumors surrounding him...just saying...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on September 11, 2012, 02:47:11 pm
38   And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 
39   But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Acts 5:38,39 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 25, 2012, 01:03:36 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-names-6-cardinals-none-italy-123445336.html
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Pope names 6 cardinals, none from Italy
By NICOLE WINFIELD | Associated Press – Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Benedict XVI named six new cardinals on Wednesday, adding prelates from Lebanon, the Philippines, Nigeria, Colombia, India and the United States to the ranks of senior churchmen who will elect his successor.

Among them is Archbishop James Harvey, the American prefect of the papal household whom the pope also named archpriest of a Roman basilica.

As prefect, Harvey was the direct superior of the pope's former butler, Paolo Gabriele, who was convicted Oct. 6 of stealing the pope's private papers and leaking them to a reporter in the greatest Vatican security breach in modern times. The Vatican spokesman denied Harvey was being removed from the Vatican because of the scandal.

Benedict, 85, announced the new cardinals during his weekly general audience and said they would be formally elevated Nov. 24. The nominations help even out the geographic distribution of cardinals, which had tilted heavily toward Europe in the last few consistories and Italy in particular.

With the new cardinals installed Nov. 24, there will be 120 "princes" of the church under age 80 and thus eligible to vote in a conclave to elect a new pope. Europe still has the most, with 62. But with the new additions, the College of Cardinals is a tad more multinational: Latin America will have 21; North America, 14; Africa, 11; Asia, 11; and Oceana, one.

Aside from Harvey, the new cardinals are: Archbishop of Abuja, Nigeria, John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan; Archbishop of Bogota, Colombia, Ruben Salazar Gomez; Archbishop of Manila, Philippines, Luis Antonio Tagle; Patriarch of Antioch of the Maronites in Lebanon, His Beatitude Bechara Boutros Rai; and the major Archbishop of the Trivandrum of the Siro-Malankaresi in India, His Beatitude Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal.

Absent from the list is German Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Mueller, whom the pope named in July to head the Vatican's powerful Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Also missing is Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, who has ruffled feathers in the Vatican because of his outspoken criticism of the church's handling of the sex abuse scandal.

In the past, prelates in line for the red hats worn by cardinals have sometimes had to wait their turn if too many were chosen for the Vatican ceremony at which prelates are formally elevated. At six, though, the Nov. 24 consistory will be the smallest in years.

It will be unique in that not a single Italian or European will be elevated, perhaps an intentional response to criticism that the European-heavy College of Cardinals no longer reflects the face of the Catholic Church, which is growing in Africa and Asia but is in crisis in much of Europe.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 05, 2012, 08:49:22 am
Pope Surpises Catholics With Sudden Papal Electors Announcement.

Tied To Vatileaks And Upcoming Petrus Romanus Conclave

Pope Benedict’s surprise announcement that he is naming 6 new cardinals raises at least three intriguing questions: Why now? The Pope has already elevated 22 prelates to the College of Cardinals this year, at a consistory held in February. Never before in the post-Vatican II era—in fact not since the 1920s—has a Roman Pontiff held two consistories for the elevation of new cardinals in a single calendar year. Assuming that the Holy Father wants to stay within the limit of 120 cardinal-electors, there are only 4 openings now, with 2 more to occur (as current cardinals reach the age of 80 and lose their eligibility as electors) before the November consistory. So the Pope will be filling all the available spots. If he had waited until the end of March 2013, he could have named a dozen new voting cardinals.

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?id=942


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 05, 2012, 08:53:24 am
Benedict's 'Little Consistory' Bends Cardinals Away From Bertone For Petrus Romanus

Pope Benedict XVI has named six new cardinals as a “gesture of the universality of the Church” and “in the context of the New Evangelization.” The new members of the College of Cardinals, including one American — Vatican Archbishop James Harvey — will be appointed in an unexpected consistory, scheduled to take place Nov. 24. Speaking extemporaneously Oct. 27 at the final session of the Synod of Bishops on the New Evangelization, the Pope said the “little consistory” would “complete” a previous one held in February, at which 22 new cardinals were appointed. Many of those new cardinals hailed from Europe and Italy in particular. Ten were also cardinals of the Roman Curia. The Holy Father said these six new cardinals do not come from Europe. This shows the Church is for “all peoples, speaks in every language,” the Pope added. “It is always the Church of Pentecost, not the Church of one continent, but of the universal Church.”

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/popes-little-consistory-adds-geographical-balance-to-college-of-cardinals/


Title: Pope Benedict XVI has announced his resignation!!!
Post by: Aussie Micha on February 11, 2013, 06:03:05 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21412609

Pope Benedict XVI has announced his resignation. Here is the full text of his statement from the Vatican:

Dear Brothers,

I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonisations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church.

After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry.

I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

However, in today's world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.

For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.

Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects.

And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff.

With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.








Wow!!! What does this mean? Isn't the next one the last and black?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 06:37:06 am
looks like Tom Horn got 1 right


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Aussie Micha on February 11, 2013, 07:20:51 am
Yep, looks like it!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/11/pope-resigns-live-reaction

Pope Benedict XVI resigns – live reaction

Live• Pope Benedict XVI is to step down
• Pontiff says his age means he lacks strength to do job
• Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 07:30:14 am
im a little surprised that there is no major news reports on this.  ??? nothing on the alternative Christian sites yet


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 07:35:35 am
i didnt realise this was so breaking, this just happened


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 07:36:49 am
Next pope likely to be chosen before the end of March, Vatican spokesman says - @BBCBreaking



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Aussie Micha on February 11, 2013, 07:40:18 am
Yeah, I'm in Australia and I got a text from my 25 yr old daughter about it.

And when I got online the was only one report that I found and a couple of old ones. A few minutes later there were heaps!!!!

I'm off to bed now as it's 11.40pm. I'm sure when I wake there will be heaps of information! :o

Nigh night!  :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 07:47:10 am
enjoy, and thanx for the news


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Aussie Micha on February 11, 2013, 08:06:06 am
LOL, still here and now it's after mid-night!  :o


Just found this, so just had to come back and share-

An African would mean a greater focus on the relationships with Islam, perhaps at the expense of the relations with the rest of Christianity.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2013/feb/11/pope-benedict-resignation-shock?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 08:20:15 am
LOL, still here and now it's after mid-night!  :o


Just found this, so just had to come back and share-

An African would mean a greater focus on the relationships with Islam, perhaps at the expense of the relations with the rest of Christianity.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2013/feb/11/pope-benedict-resignation-shock?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487


(http://www.cathnewsusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cardinal-Peter-Turkson.jpeg)

Cardinal Peter Turkson


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 08:39:36 am
As Predicted In Petrus Romanus: Pope Benedict XVI In Shock Resignation. Conclave To Elect "Final Pope" Before Easter

Pope Benedict XVI is to resign at the end of this month after nearly eight years as the head of the Catholic Church, saying he is too old to continue at the age of 85. The unexpected development surprised governments, Vatican-watchers and even the 85-year-old's closest aides. The Vatican says it expects a new Pope to be elected before the end of March, ahead of Easter. Papal resignations are not unknown, but this is the first in the modern era. The BBC's Alan Johnston in Rome says the news has come "out of the blue", and that there was no speculation whatsoever about the move in recent days. Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti is quoted as saying he was "greatly shaken by this unexpected news". A Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, said that even the Pope's closest aides did not know what he was planning to do and were left "incredulous". He added that the decision showed "great courage" and "determination".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304

Also see:
First pope since 1415 to resign...
http://news.sky.com/story/1050513/pope-benedict-resigns-vatican-confirms

Last few months has deteriorated'...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/world/europe/pope-benedict-resignation/index.html

Advised by doctor not to take transatlantic trips...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GERMANY_POPE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-02-11-07-01-46

Made decision in 'full freedom'...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276884/Pope-Benedict-shock-resignation-Pontiff-85-600-years-stand-longer-strength-carry-on.html#axzz2KamIgxRN

Evidence of Benedict XVI's deep humility...
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100202321/pope-to-resign-this-is-unbelievable-news-but-evidence-of-benedict-xvis-deep-humility/

No obvious front-runner to replace...
http://www.france24.com/en/20130211-pope-resign-february-28-vatican-rome-catholic-church

First Black Pope In 1500 Years?...
http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_turkson_pka_en.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2013, 08:40:32 am
Re-Read The Series From Last Year! Who Will Be The Last Pope?

Having documented what we have in the last few entries, one could think with some certainty that Cardinal Bertone is a shoo-in for Petrus Romanus. However, as we move into 2012, cracks are suddenly appearing in the foundation of his sand castle, and not everybody in the Curia—including Pope Benedict XVI, himself—may wind up as eager to support him as they once were. As Pope Benedict’s health weakens, the sharks smell blood, and claims of mismanagement have been increasing from competing factions in the Church that are more than happy to seize opportunity to cast aspersion on Bertone in order to elevate their own standing among the College of Cardinals. This may include Archbishop Vigano, whose personal letters to Pope Benedict and Cardinal Bertone concerning his reassignment as Nuncio were partially broadcast by an Italian television news program in January 2012. The letters, confirmed by the Vatican as authentic, exposed a blistering relationship between himself and Bertone involving political jockeying and financial deal making including charges of “corruption, nepotism and cronyism linked to the awarding of contracts to contractors at inflated prices.”

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/petrus-twelve.htm


As Predicted By St. Malachy Before Tom Horn & Cris Putnam -- The Last Pope Is Here!

As the legend goes, Malachy experienced what is today considered a famous vision commonly called “The Prophecy of the Popes.” The prophecy is a list of Latin verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope, “Peter the Roman,” whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome. According to this ancient prophecy, the very next pope (following Benedict XVI) will be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman. The final segment of the prophecy reads:

In persecutione extrema S. R. E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis deruetur et judex tremendus judicabit populum. Finis.[xii]

Which is rendered:

In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations; when they are over, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible or fearsome Judge will judge his people. The End.[xiii]...

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/petrus-one.htm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 10:37:20 am
I just saw this on the MSN(NBC affiliate national news) site before logging in here.

I'll admit - I nearly jumped up on my sofa when I read this. Rumors have had it for years that Benedict would be the next to the last Pope. Yeah, I know they all come from false prophets et al, but regardless the writing is on the wall.(if you know what we mean here)

Buckle up everyone, the ride is really going to get rough in a couple of months - IOW, getcha popcorn ready!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 01:59:56 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/papal-resignation-sparks-global-disbelief-grief-185756993.html

Papal resignation sparks global disbelief, grief

2/11/13

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Roman Catholics around the world expressed disbelief and grief Monday at the first papal resignation in six centuries. Some saw it as a dramatic act of humility, others as a sign of crisis in the Roman Catholic Church. And many expressed hope that a more energetic and charismatic new pope would lead the church into a new era.
 
Shock was the overwhelming first response to Pope Benedict XVI's announcement Monday that he would retire Feb. 28.
 
"He can't quit like that. This can't be," said Alis Ramirez, an ice cream seller headed to church in the Venezuelan capital of Caracas. "A vacuum is created. It's like when a loved one dies."
 
The news also brought reawakened calls for a pope from the developing world, long considered a bulwark against continued losses in church membership in Europe and the United States. While the church has been battered by growing secularism and sex abuse scandals in the northern hemisphere, the number of believers is growing in Africa, and half the world's Catholics live in Latin America.
 
"We need someone young who can bring back the dynamism to the church," said Zulma Alves, a cook who was lighting candles in front of a Rio de Janeiro church that was closed for Carnival.
 
In Cuba, site of one of Pope Benedict's final trips, the few parishioners outside Havana's Cathedral before doors opened early Monday said they understood his reasons for stepping down and hoped it he would be replaced by a younger pontiff.
 
"The church must bring itself up to date with the modern world,"
said Angel Aguilera, a 33-year-old municipal worker.
 
Antonio Marto, the bishop of Fatima in central Portugal, said Benedict XVI's resignation presents an opportunity to pick a church leader from a country from the developing world.
 
"Europe today is going through a period of cultural tiredness, exhaustion, which is reflected in the way Christianity is lived," Marto told reporters. "You don't see that in Africa or Latin America where there is a freshness, an enthusiasm about living the faith.
 
"Perhaps we need a pope who can look beyond Europe and bring to the entire church a certain vitality that is seen on other continents."
 
It may be time for a "youngish" pope, possibly from the developing world, said Andreas Dingstad, a spokesman for the Catholic diocese in the Norwegian capital of Oslo.
 
"The church is growing most in the south. So I think lots of people will be ready for a pope from Africa, Asia or South America. But who knows, it's the early days still," Dingstad said.
 
The nation with biggest Christian population in Africa, Nigeria, has some 20 million practicing Catholics. In Lagos, Nigeria's largest city, trader Chukwuma Awaegwu put his feelings simply Monday: "If I had my way, an African should be the next pope, or someone from Nigeria."
 
"It's true; they brought the religion to us, but we have come of age," he said. "In America, now we have a black president. So let's just feel the impact of a black pope."
 
But Cardinal John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, a Nigerian who was made a cardinal in November by Benedict, said papal politics are not normal politics.
 
"Popes come and popes go. It doesn't mean when a pope comes, the church completely changes, now. It isn't like a politician who wins an election and begins to implement manifestos," Onaiyekan said. "It is a different ball game all together, and I hope people out there realize that."
 
Bookmakers in Britain quicly offered odds on candidates to replace Benedict. Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson, Canada's Cardinal Marc Ouellet and Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria led in betting.
 
Scholars of other faiths also weighed in on the outgoing pope's legacy.
 
In Britain, Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans, expressed "a heavy heart but complete understanding" of the pope's decision.
 
A noted Islamic scholar in Jerusalem was less sympathetic. He said Benedict would be remembered by Muslims for misrepresenting their faith, damaging years of careful interfaith dialogue by his predecessor John Paul II.
 
"I regret that his term was not marked by genuine rapprochement with the Muslim world," said Mustafa Abu Sway of the Palestinian al-Quds University. Abu Sway said many Muslims couldn't forget Benedict's much-criticized lecture in 2006 at the University of Regensburg in Germany when he referenced a remark about Islam that offended Muslims.
 
"I just hope that the next Pope would do a much better job," Abu Sway said.
 
Many Catholics, however, praised Benedict for bravery and modesty in deciding to step aside.
 
In the pope's native Germany, the pontiff's older brother, 89-year-old Georg Ratzinger, told the dpa news agency in Regensburg that a doctor had advised his brother not to take any more trans-Atlantic trips and said was having increasing difficulty walking. "His age is weighing on him," Ratzinger said.
 
In Poland, the homeland of Benedict's predecessor, John Paul II, Krakow Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz said he was "surprised like everybody else," but said cardinals at the Vatican could see that Benedict was "weakening, had problems walking" even as his intellect remained strong.
 
The resignation was an act of deference to the greater good by a man "demonstrating his humanity," said Father Luis Rivero, Archdiocesan director of campus ministry for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami.
 
"There are times that only we know that we have to let go. And sometimes people may see that as a failure, but it's honorable when someone reaches their point they have to let go because they can't do this effectively anymore."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 05:04:54 pm
OK, transferring posts about this subject from the shout box...

Lisa wrote:

What dyu think of the pope resigning ???  Very odd


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 05:06:22 pm
BornAgain2 wrote:

Yeah, something is up. Not that I'm taking the Peter Turkson/Peter the Roman "prophecy" at face value, but again, more watchful events as we're speaking potentially in the near future!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 05:07:24 pm
Lisa wrote:

I'm interested- cant find any blog comments on the net yet but it's big prophesy news- always think of rev 17 vs 1o when popes come and go.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 05:08:11 pm
BornAgain2 wrote:

Even though Malachy is a false prophet, at the same time even false prophets can give out prophecies that come to pass. Doc Marquis(a former occultist) experienced this when he worked for the dark forces.

Deu 13:1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
Deu 13:3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

If Peter Turkson turns out to be the guy, just imagine not only the RCC, but the entire world, maybe including the modern-day "church" system, falling for him(whether he's the AC/FP or not).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 05:09:25 pm
Lisa wrote:

I'm lost who is peter turkson ?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 05:10:36 pm
BornAgain2 wrote:

One of the frontrunners to be the next Pope.

/done with shoutbox messages on this subject part.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Lisa on February 11, 2013, 05:24:45 pm
I see a parallel with Obama- if you don't agree with his policies you can be accused of being racist...are they planning to use the same tactic ?????


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 06:58:04 pm
I see a parallel with Obama- if you don't agree with his policies you can be accused of being racist...are they planning to use the same tactic ?????

Here's something else I see - when N@zi Germany came to power, the NG leadership was 100% white arian. While Hitler and his minions were able to fool Germany and the world for a good bit, they were not only ultimately defeated, but this ended up planting the seeds in everyone's mind over the long haul trying to pin the evil of all evils of white arianism against minority races.

Do you see where's this going? Fast-foward to the present day, and the world by and large thinks there's just NO way the autrocities of NG will ever happen, especially now that we have a black President, more "diversity" in society, and potentially a black Pope. But guess what...right under everyone's noses, the USA President is going against Israel and the Jews, and under his watch policies mirroring NG are being implemented in this country(ie-green agenda, universal health care, etc).

There is nothing new under the sun...history is repeating itself, but NOT the way it was in prior times.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2013, 07:42:35 pm
Scola is one of the frontrunners as well...

2/11/13

http://news.sky.com/story/1050731/pope-benedict-resigns-who-could-take-over

Excerpt:

Cardinal Angelo Scola, Archbishop of Milan, at 5/1, was moved by Benedict from another high-profile post, Archbishop of Venice, in 2011.

Milan is the biggest diocese in Europe and Milan and Venice between them have produced five Popes in the last century.

He is a top scholar on Islam and Christian-Muslim dialogue and could be seen as well-placed to deal with the changing nature of religion in the modern world.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 12, 2013, 04:16:08 am
NOTRadio_02.11.13

Monday, February 11, 2013 at 3:06PM
Today's Show: POPE BENEDICT RESIGNS

Chris discusses the shocking news from Rome that the current Pope -- Benedict XVI -- has announced his resignation by the end of this month.  This is the first pope in nearly 600 years to make such a decision, but what will it mean?  While speculations abound as to who will be the next pope, it is important to consider that many Catholics and Vatican leaders have followed the so-called prophecies of a Catholic "saint" named Malachy for hundreds of years.  Malachy is said to have foretold the number of popes from his time in the twelfth century up until the end of the world.  According to his list, Benedict XVI is the second to last pope -- while the next pope after him is supposed to be named Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman).  The reign of this final pope is to see the destruction of the Catholic Church, along with Armageddon and the end of the world.   Could any of this be true?  How should Christians view this so-called prophecy?  Is it merely fictional Catholic mysticism?  Or is it possible that the Vatican could be manipulating world events to make it appear that such prophecies were being fulfilled in order to lend credibility to their own teachings?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.RESIGNS_02.11.13.mp3


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 12, 2013, 08:01:05 am
Pope Benedict 'will not interfere in successor's affairs'

BBC News  - ‎39 minutes ago‎     
 

Pope Benedict XVI will not interfere in the affairs of his successor after his decision to resign later this month, the pontiff's brother has said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21421615


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 09:10:21 am
This is a trend I've noticed especially in recent years - "younger" leaders are really being pushed by the NWO-runned MSM(and the wicked world system). Not just Obama when he first ran for Prez in 2008, but recently GOP Sen Marco Rubio is being pushed as the next GOP "savior"(despite him pushing illegal immigration reform). Rubio is only 41(the Gen X/MTV/Pepsico age group) despite being a junior Senator(which was around Obama's age when he was first elected Sen in Illinois).

And then "leaders" in other aspects of society like communities, corporations, etc, and yes even PASTORS have gotten younger as well. Not that I have anything against young people, but this flies in the face of what scripture says...

1Tim_5:1  Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

1Tim_5:17  Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Heb 11:1  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Heb 11:2  For by it the elders obtained a good report.


Pro 20:29  The glory of young men is their strength: and the beauty of old men is the gray head.

http://news.yahoo.com/catholic-church-needs-younger-pope-212053931.html;_ylt=Ari9JOQL6cTtHyJWlWKe2g7Nt.d_;_ylu=X3oDMTVxNnIwamw2BGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDEwMDBwb29sd2lraXVwcmVzdARtaXQDQXJ0aWNsZSBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5ld3MgZm9yIFlvdSB3aXRoIE1vcmUgTGluawRwa2cDOWY0MzUzYzAtODgxZS0zNzUzLTg1YWUtZDc1NzM1MjMyN2MzBHBvcwM1BHNlYwNuZXdzX2Zvcl95b3UEdmVyAzE5ZjE3MjcwLTc0OTEtMTFlMi1hZThmLTYwZjk5MDNjNjE2Mw--;_ylg=X3oDMTRhZ2d2b3M3BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMGYwMTUyMDItZDkxNC0zOWU3LThkZjQtNzczNzBhZjYwZGNkBHBzdGNhdANoZWFsdGh8ZGlzZWFzZXMtY29uZGl0aW9ucwRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2UEdGVzdANpcHRjX3NreXNjcmFwZXJfcmVsYXRlZA--;_ylv=3

The Catholic Church Needs a Younger Pope

Catholics are stunned by the news that Pope Benedict XVI is retiring at the age of 85, for health reasons. What might be more surprising is that he held on as long as he did.

There aren't many huge organizations effectively run by 80-something leaders. Sure, medical and cultural advances have allowed people to live rich lives far longer than anybody might have imagined 50 or 500 years ago. Seniors play a vital role in society as grandparents, mentors, living historians and even breadwinners.

But when aging leaders cling too long to power, the results can be unpleasant or worse. Rupert Murdoch, the 81-year-old CEO of News Corp., seemed flummoxed and inarticulate last year when he testified before the British Parliament about the phone-hacking scandal at several of his newspapers. At one point he even appeared to nod off, while his son James handled many of the questions requiring detailed answers.

Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno was 85 when the Jerry Sandusky scandal broke, and he seemed perplexed by the uproar during the few times he made unrehearsed comments on the matter. Granted, Paterno was a young stallion still in his 70s when Sandusky actually committed the crimes that wrecked the school's football program, but even then Paterno showed no comprehension of how grave the problem was.

When old leaders past their prime refuse to step down, it can be particularly damaging. Good leaders know when it's time for them to step aside. Bad leaders cling to power way too long, for personal reasons. When a fading leader still has the power to remain in his post, it can breed institutional rot. Penn State officials repeatedly urged Paterno to retire, for example, yet he rebuffed them, apparently determined to remain head coach until he could no longer walk onto the field.

There are a few examples of leaders in their 80s who seem to retain plenty of vigor for the job. One obvious example is Warren Buffett, the 82-year-old investing guru, who is still CEO of the conglomerate Berkshire Hathaway and seems as sharp as ever.

Yet it's undeniable that at some point, just about everybody loses some physical stamina and mental acuity. For most of us, that probably occurs before the age of 80. It's even more obvious that 80-year-olds are out of touch with the ways people half their age--or one-quarter their age--live, work and communicate.

If any organization could use a dose of youth at the top, it's the Catholic Church. The worldwide sexual abuse scandal that began to surface a decade ago still hasn't been fully explained by church leaders who are invariably old and male. Many people still wonder if the church gets it. Meanwhile, younger Catholics are losing interest--even in Catholic strongholds such as France and Spain--and the church is struggling to attract priests to its all-male fraternity. If the church were a public company, shareholders would have revolted by now.

In some cases where influential old-timers insist on hanging around, their colleagues have come up with clever workarounds. Sumner Redstone, the 89-year-old executive chairman of Viacom, may be the oldest working executive in corporate America. But he stepped down as CEO in 2006, allowing a much younger man to handle the day-to-day duties of running the company and all the stress that goes with it.

The oldest CEO in America may be 85-year-old O. Bruton Smith of Sonic Automotive. Like Redstone, he founded the company he works for, which may give him a bit more of a claim to the top job. Still, anybody running a public company is answerable to shareholders, with an obligation to do what's best for the organization, not for himself.

The Catholic Church obviously has no shareholders, but it does have an obligation to manage itself as effectively as possible. That's in the interest of more than 1 billion Catholics around the world, and of the church itself. The elders in Rome might discover that a 50- or 60-year-old whippersnapper at the helm of the church would be good for business.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 09:24:28 am
NOTRadio_02.11.13

Monday, February 11, 2013 at 3:06PM
Today's Show: POPE BENEDICT RESIGNS

Chris discusses the shocking news from Rome that the current Pope -- Benedict XVI -- has announced his resignation by the end of this month.  This is the first pope in nearly 600 years to make such a decision, but what will it mean?  While speculations abound as to who will be the next pope, it is important to consider that many Catholics and Vatican leaders have followed the so-called prophecies of a Catholic "saint" named Malachy for hundreds of years.  Malachy is said to have foretold the number of popes from his time in the twelfth century up until the end of the world.  According to his list, Benedict XVI is the second to last pope -- while the next pope after him is supposed to be named Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman).  The reign of this final pope is to see the destruction of the Catholic Church, along with Armageddon and the end of the world.   Could any of this be true?  How should Christians view this so-called prophecy?  Is it merely fictional Catholic mysticism?  Or is it possible that the Vatican could be manipulating world events to make it appear that such prophecies were being fulfilled in order to lend credibility to their own teachings?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.RESIGNS_02.11.13.mp3

Very interesting broadcast over this from Pinto...

Yeah, not that I put stock per se in this "prophecy", but at the same time this is one to watch for over the next couple of months(before they choose the next Pope).

This isn't exactly the same one as that 12/21/2012 heresy(which was completely taken out of context over what the Mayans said, and ultimately used as a psyop for some 5-6 years).

Deu 13:1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
Deu 13:3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.


When I think about this passage, sometimes I wonder if Satan and his minions are allowed to make *some* prophecies that come to pass. For example, Jeanne Dixon and Mother Shipley actually made a few prophecies that came to pass(and I've crossed paths with a Churchianity folk or 2 that did the same), HOWEVER - these same false prophets also got a ton of their other prophecies wrong. Same with those "psychic hotline networks" - they actually end up giving "correct" prophecies to some of their callers.

Which gets me thinking - what IF Peter the Roman does come to pass as the next Pope? At bare minimum, it will be interesting to see not only how the world will embrace him, but also how the Churchianity crowd(in particular the Southern Baptist Convention) will embrace him as well. Catholic teachings like contempletive prayer have infiltrated Churchianity in recent years(as well as Emergent/Postmodernism Church teachings), so it shouldn't be surprising if they react with awe at whoever the next Pope could be.

But OTOH, if this Peter the Roman prophecy doesn't come to pass, then it could further open the door for more scoffers to come out of the woodwork(especially with Harold Camping, 12/21/2012, etc being over-hyped in recent years).

2Peter 3:1  This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Pe 3:2  That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2Pe 3:3  Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4  And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5  For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6  Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7  But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


Daniel_7:25  And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 09:41:33 am
http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-acknowledges-pope-had-pacemaker-123335611.html

2/12/13

Vatican acknowledges that pope had pacemaker

VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican is acknowledging for the first time that Pope Benedict XVI has had a pacemaker for years and that its battery was replaced a few months ago in secret.
 
Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi said Benedict had the pacemaker installed "a long time" before he became pope in 2005. He called the latest medical procedure "routine."
 
It was the first time the Vatican has mentioned a papal pacemaker.
 
Italian daily Il Sole 24 said the pope had the pacemaker procedure less than three months ago in a Rome hospital and did not miss any public appearances.
 
Benedict is resigning on Feb. 28 because he says he has become too infirm to handle the burdens of the papacy. He will become the first pope to step down in six centuries.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 11:55:01 am
Pope Benedict Dogged by Hitler Youth Past
2/12/13
http://news.yahoo.com/hitler-youth-past-dogged-pope-benedict-despite-jewish-215603378--abc-news-topstories.html

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/CCti1RG5xueEhIjc7gi6tA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzYwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zNTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.go.com/gty_pope_benedict_soldier_tk_130211_wmain.jpg)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 12:10:56 pm
http://now.msn.com/filippo-monteforte-photographed-lightning-striking-st-peters-basilica-the-day-pope-resigned

2/11/13

(http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/2F/7B636BFAE86C1313286FCD47937F12_h316_w628_m5_cCKcSTcBz.jpg)

Did lightning strike St. Peter's Basilica the day the pope resigned?

Are you the kind of person who believes in omens? If so, what do you make of this stunning photo, snapped by an Italian photographer, of lightning appearing to strike the top of St. Peter’s Basilica the day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation? A sign from above, a hoax or one lucky break for Filippo Monteforte, the Italian shutterbug who is credited with capturing the image? According to news agency Agence France-Presse, Monteforte reportedly took the photo Monday. Skeptics, of course, doubted that anyone could get that lucky and questioned the photo's authenticity, but others believed the photo was real and was a sign from above.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 12:17:19 pm
Why the Pope Really Stepped Down: Your Guide to Ridiculous Conspiracy Theories
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/02/pope-conspiracy-theories/61996/

**At the top of this list in this article is NOT the Malachy "prophecy"(although it's eventually mentioned at the bottom), but his health, his N@zi past, the church's sex abuse scandal...uhm...these AREN'T conspiracy theories, these are FACTS! ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 12:35:40 pm
AP Interview: African papal contender wants change

Now where have we heard this before? ::)

Proverbs_24:21  My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change:

2/12/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — One of Africa's brightest hopes to be the next pope, Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson, says the time is right for a pontiff from the developing world, and that he's up for the job "if it's the will of God."
 
In an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press, the day after Pope Benedict XVI announced he would soon resign, Turkson said the "young churches" of Africa and Asia have now become solid enough that they have produced "mature clergymen and prelates that are capable of exercising leadership also of this world institution."
 
The church in the Third World doesn't need a pope of its own to thrive, he said. It's done just fine growing exponentially with European pontiffs. But Turkson said a pope from the global south, where half of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics live, would "go a long way to strengthen them in their resolve."
 
Turkson, 64, became Ghana's first cardinal when he was elevated by Pope John Paul II in 2003, while he was archbishop of Cape Coast. Six years later, Benedict tapped him to head the Vatican's peace and justice office, which tackles issues such as the global financial meltdown, armed conflicts and ethical codes for the business world.

more


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2013, 08:03:16 pm
Job_38:35  Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?

Psa_18:14  Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.

Psa_77:18  The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook.

Psa_97:4  His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled.


 ???

http://now.msn.com/filippo-monteforte-photographed-lightning-striking-st-peters-basilica-the-day-pope-resigned

2/11/13

(http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/2F/7B636BFAE86C1313286FCD47937F12_h316_w628_m5_cCKcSTcBz.jpg)

Did lightning strike St. Peter's Basilica the day the pope resigned?

Are you the kind of person who believes in omens? If so, what do you make of this stunning photo, snapped by an Italian photographer, of lightning appearing to strike the top of St. Peter’s Basilica the day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation? A sign from above, a hoax or one lucky break for Filippo Monteforte, the Italian shutterbug who is credited with capturing the image? According to news agency Agence France-Presse, Monteforte reportedly took the photo Monday. Skeptics, of course, doubted that anyone could get that lucky and questioned the photo's authenticity, but others believed the photo was real and was a sign from above.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 13, 2013, 02:04:20 am
Apparently, the lightening strike did happen. They have video that allegedly was taken when it happened, the same day the pope resigned.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 13, 2013, 05:43:25 am
Pope resigns: Peter Turkson reveals vision for the Church and 'alternative lifestyles'

The cardinal who could become the first black pope said Tuesday that the Roman Catholic Church faces grave challenges in remaining relevant in the modern world even as he laid out a conservative vision of how to deal with society's "alternative lifestyles".


 Cardinal Peter Turkson, a 64-year-old Ghanaian prelate, is the bookmaker's early favourite to succeed Pope Benedict XVI.

He told The Daily Telegraph Tuesday that his biggest challenge, should he be elected, would be to maintain an orthodox Catholic doctrine while "at the same time knowing how to apply it so that you do not become irrelevant in a world that has continuous changes".

Cardinal Turkson, who holds one of the most important jobs in the Roman Curia and has been repeatedly promoted by Pope Benedict, was quick to take a conservative line on gay marriage and other "alternative lifestyles".

"We need to find ways of dealing with the challenges coming up from society and culture," he said, adding that the Church needed to "evangelise", or convert, those who had embraced "alternative lifestyles, trends or gender issues". He added: "We cannot fail in our task of providing guidance."

Cardinal Turkson has caused controversy in the past both by screening a video claiming that Europe faced being overrun by Muslims and by insisting that condoms were not the solution to preventing HIV.



The African prelate said he had reflected on the enormous personal burden of becoming the leader of the Catholic Church. "It would certainly mean a lot if I had to be a pope," he said. "If I was elected pope it would signal a lot of [personal] change. Very big change in a lot of regards. I have been an archbishop, which involved a certain amount of leadership and now having to do this on a world level, the dimensions expand almost infinitely.

"It is going to be a life-changing experience and I think that is what it has been for Benedict and those who have gone before us. The challenge will also be with the individual to want to make his mark, not trying to fit into anybody's shoes but finding his own shoes to wear."

Cardinal Turkson also said the Vatican needs to "restore and repair" an image that has been "badly compromised by recent scandals".

Pope Benedict's eight-year papacy saw controversies over paedophile priests, a tense relationship with the Muslim world, and the conviction of his butler for stealing documents that revealed corruption at the top of the Vatican.

"[We need] to relevantly address issues and the credibility of our own ministry and leadership," said Cardinal Turkson. "The Church, if you adopt the imagery of a boat, is going through quite a bit of a storm and it does not appear to be over yet," he said.

"In Europe, churches are getting empty, the population appears not to relate much to the Church and to religion and all of that –that is an issue to deal with. In the new churches, Latin America, Africa and Asia, where the Church appears to be growing there is also the challenge of being able to maintain membership. Whoever succeeds Benedict will not lack challenges and they are an invitation to creativity and innovation."

He acknowledged that he will be in the running when 118 cardinals enter into a conclave in the Sistine Chapel next month to select their next leader.

"It is a possibility [that there will be an African pope]," he said. "Already at the last conclave there was a move to have a candidate from the southern half of the globe," he said. But he pointed out that there is constant speculation over the idea of an African pope.

"Before I got here there was a young African cardinal called Arinze from Nigeria. And at every conclave everybody was talking about him as an emerging candidate. Arinze is now 80 and actually there is no way he can participate in the conclave. So after Arinze another African shows up in the Vatican, now there are actually two of us, there is a cardinal from Guinea. So again there is speculation."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9866227/Pope-resigns-Peter-Turkson-reveals-vision-for-the-Church-and-alternative-lifestyles.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 13, 2013, 09:17:23 am
^^

He's only telling the Churchianity crowd what their itching ears want to hear.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 13, 2013, 11:30:41 am
OK, I'm NOT trying to bring up another pre vs post rapture debate. But am posting this b/c we discussed this 2 years ago here over the RCC's post-trib rapture view, and how it relates to their St. Malachy "prophecy" over the last Pope "leading and protecting" the church over intense persecutions from the Antichrist.

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CCC 675 Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.4 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth5 will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.6

http://www.catholic-catechism.com/ccc_673.675.1216.2849.htm




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 13, 2013, 11:56:03 am
The Breaking News for February 11, 2013 is that current Pope Benedict XVI is resigning the end of February. Brannon’s guests are former Catholics Chris Pinto and Mike Gendron.

Topic: What are the prophesies of Malachy, a “Saint” that it appears the Church of Rome has been deliberately following for years?

Topic: Why should Christians not give any credibility to these predictions of Malachy?

Topic: Why are people watching to see if the next Pope takes the name Pope Peter?

Topic: How can Christians use the news of the current Pope’s resignation to share the gospel with those caught up in the lies of the Church of Rome.

Topic: We take your calls.

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/radio/audio/brannon-howse-aired-february-11-2013

Audio: http://media.worldviewweekend.com/sites/default/files_wvw.com/audio_legacy/45d105679a64fcf76d9f14ad6e46ca3f8b745d27e47fc0140f76c166f710cfb4.mp3


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 14, 2013, 08:49:31 am
Peter Turkson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turkson

In October 2011 Cardinal Turkson called for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises. The document, Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority was very specific, calling for taxation measures on financial transactions. It notes that “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said. The document condemned what it called “the idolatry of the market” as well as a “neo-liberal thinking” that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems. “In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale,” it said, adding that world economics needed an “ethic of solidarity” among rich and poor nations.

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Homosexuality
 
In 2012, in response to a speech by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon urging Church leaders to do more for human rights and in particular gay rights in Africa, Turkson, while recognising that some of the sanctions imposed on homosexuals in Africa are an “exaggeration,” stated that the “intensity of the reaction is probably commensurate with tradition.” “Just as there’s a sense of a call for rights, there’s also a call to respect culture, of all kinds of people,” he said. “So, if it’s being stigmatized, in fairness, it’s probably right to find out why it is being stigmatized.” He also called for distinction to be made between human rights and moral issues.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 14, 2013, 09:15:44 pm
FWIW, wasn't the same rhetoric used when Obama ran for President in 2008(which around that time he rose to popularity as the sitting one, Bush II, was the most hated one up to that time)? And for that matter too, the Southern Baptist Convention used similar PC rhetoric when they elected the first black President(Fred Luter), although no the previous President wasn't hated or anything.

http://news.yahoo.com/time-first-african-pope-151500215.html

Is it time for the first African pope?

2/14/13

Two popular African Catholic cardinals — one from Ghana, the other from Nigeria — are among the frontrunners to replace Pope Benedict XVI
 
Bookies put odds on just about everything, so it's no surprise that they're already sizing up the chances of potential successors to Pope Benedict XVI, who this week became the first pontiff in six centuries to announce his resignation. The process of choosing the next pope probably won't be complete until the end of March, or later, but for the first time the favorites appear to be leaders from outside Europe. One, Cardinal Marc Ouellet, is from Canada. The others are from Africa — Cardinal Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson of Ghana and Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria. Is now the time for the Catholic Church to pick its first black pope?
 
Church leaders in Africa appear split on how likely that is to happen. It would be "quite some miracle," according to Matthias Kobena Nketsiah, archbishop of Cape Coast in Ghana. "If the Church chooses a Third World person or a black pope it will have to come to terms with itself," he said. "I am not saying the Church is racist, but there are overtones and perceptions that maybe add up to that." Others are giving better odds. Cardinal John Onaiyekan of Abuja, Nigeria, said recently that he wouldn't be surprised to see an African pope in his lifetime, possibly soon. "The fact that the Gospel is to be preached to all peoples, languages, and races means that the highest leadership of the church should be open to anyone from any race, language, and nation," he said.
 
Some experts believe that choosing a pope from Africa would be the best thing for the faithful in the developing world, and the best thing for the Church. "At a time when the pews and churches of Europe and North America are empty and many dioceses are declaring bankruptcy," says Stan Chu Ilo at CNN, "the churches in Africa are filled beyond capacity every Sunday." There has a been a global shift in the world's Catholic population from North to South in the last three decades, and for the first time in history more than half of the faithful come from Latin America or Africa.
 
For many Catholics, where a pope comes from may not be as important as who the pope is, but for most African Catholics the election of an African pope will be a wonderful sign that African Catholicism has come of age, and they hope that such a pope will address squarely the particular challenges facing Africans today and integrate African culture and socio-economic priorities into mainstream Catholicism. [CNN]

One Catholic with special insight into the matter — Pope Benedict's older brother, the Rev. Georg Ratzinger, doesn't think it will happen just yet, as the College of Cardinals isn't changing as fast as the Catholic population in the pews. "I'm certain a pope will come from the new continents but whether it will be now, I have my doubts," he says. "In Europe, we have many very able people, and the Africans are still not so well known and maybe do not have the experience yet."

According to The Associated Press, that's an important point. "The face of the Roman Catholic Church has changed profoundly in Pope Benedict XVI's lifetime." Western congregations are smaller and older, while those in the developing world are booming. The transformation, however, isn't reflected in the College of Cardinals yet, and that's where the next pope will be chosen.
 
In fact, the membership of the conclave remains — by its regional breakdowns, at least — more of a look back on what the church was rather than a reflection of where it is headed.
 
Europeans still dominate the group, representing more than half of the possible 117 cardinals who with gather in the Sistine Chapel to vote. However, the pressures of the 21st century church — battered by abuse scandals and losing stature in the West — are likely to exert themselves strongly in the deliberations and the fundamental choices facing the papal electors. [Associated Press]
 


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 15, 2013, 03:35:13 am
Tom Horn & Steve Quayle-The Hagmann & Hagmann Report

 Petrus Romanus - The Final Pope is here. We are witnessing prophecy unfold before our very eyes as we learn that Pope Benedict XVI is stepping down.

Join us for this special broadcast as we welcome back Tom Horn, co-author of Petrus Romanus (with Cris Putnam) and Steve Quayle to discuss this prophesized event.

Special Time: 9:00 p.m. to midnight (ET)

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2013/02/15/the-hagmann-hagmann-report

MP3: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2013/02/15/the-hagmann-hagmann-report.mp3


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 15, 2013, 04:07:53 am
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Monday, February 11, 2013 at 3:06PM
Today's Show: POPE BENEDICT RESIGNS

Chris discusses the shocking news from Rome that the current Pope -- Benedict XVI -- has announced his resignation by the end of this month.  This is the first pope in nearly 600 years to make such a decision, but what will it mean?  While speculations abound as to who will be the next pope, it is important to consider that many Catholics and Vatican leaders have followed the so-called prophecies of a Catholic "saint" named Malachy for hundreds of years.  Malachy is said to have foretold the number of popes from his time in the twelfth century up until the end of the world.  According to his list, Benedict XVI is the second to last pope -- while the next pope after him is supposed to be named Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman).  The reign of this final pope is to see the destruction of the Catholic Church, along with Armageddon and the end of the world.   Could any of this be true?  How should Christians view this so-called prophecy?  Is it merely fictional Catholic mysticism?  Or is it possible that the Vatican could be manipulating world events to make it appear that such prophecies were being fulfilled in order to lend credibility to their own teachings?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.RESIGNS_02.11.13.mp3


Tuesday, February 12, 2013 at 6:06PM
Today's Show: PROPHECY OF MALACHY: THE FINAL POPE?

Chris continues his discussion of the Catholic "saint" Malachy prophecy concerning the list of popes who would supposedly reign until the end of the world and Armageddon.  According to the list, the next pope elected should be the last and final pope.  Throughout the twentieth century, many Catholics have tried to align the prophecies of Malachy to make it appear that they are coming to pass.  Could the next pope be elected under this same influence?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_THE.FINAL.POPE_02.12.13.mp3


Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 9:19PM
Today's Show: THE BARQUE OF PETER

Chris discusses the old world term for the Papal throne, which was specifically
mentioned by Pope Benedict as he announced his resignation.  But what is the
greater symbolism?  Also, a number of mainstream media news organizations
have reported that lightning struck St. Peter's Basilica in Rome within a few
hours of the Pope's stunning announcement.  Some are calling it a sign from God,
but could it merely be a theatrical stunt?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_BARQUE.OF.PETER.mp3


Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 1:22PM
Today's Show: THE PILLARS OF DON BOSCO

With all the flurry surrounding Pope Benedict's resignation, Chris continues his discussion on the Barque (ship) of St. Peter, one of the symbols used in Catholicism for the papacy.  In the 19th century, a Catholic "saint" named Don Bosco claimed to have a vision of two pillars that arose during a time of great turmoil in the Catholic Church.  According to Bosco, the Barque of Peter would be anchored to these pillars as the means of help and salvation.  Modern Catholics have made reference to the vision as one "for our times."  But what do the pillars actually symbolize?  And how can we as Christians be good witnesses to Catholics, in shining the light of truth according to the Word of God?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_PILLARS.OF.DON.BOSCO_02.14.13.mp3


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 15, 2013, 04:16:51 am
Pope Says He Will Be ‘Hidden to the World’ in Retirement

Saying he would soon be “hidden to the world,” Pope Benedict XVI took his leave of parish priests and clergy members of the Diocese of Rome on Thursday as he offered personal, and incisive, recollections of the Second Vatican Council, the gathering of bishops 50 years ago that set the Roman Catholic Church’s course for the future.

 Benedict, who announced his resignation on Monday in a move that stunned the Roman Catholic world, also indicated that he would not hold a public role once his resignation became official on Feb. 28. Benedict is the first pope to step down in nearly 600 years.

“Though I am now retiring to a life of prayer, I will always be close to all of you, and I am sure all of you will be close to me, even though I remain hidden to the world,” Benedict, 85, and increasingly frail, told the assembly of hundreds of priests, who had greeted him with a long standing ovation and some tears.

Priests in attendance said they felt they had witnessed a powerful moment in church history, one that also humanized a pope who had often seemed remote. “It moved me to see the pope smile,” said Don Mario Filippa, a priest in Rome. “He has found peace within himself.”

Father Martin Astudillo, 37, an Argentine priest who is studying in Rome, said, “It was a part of history.” He added: “This is a man of God who at the end of his public role transmits his vision of the church and relationship with the church. We saw in a few words a real synthesis of his vision of the church and what he expects from whomever takes over.”

During the reflection — or “chat” in his words — on the Second Vatican Council, Benedict recalled the “incredible” expectations of the bishops going into the gathering.

“We were full of hope, enthusiasm and also of good will,” he said.

But while the council made landmark decisions that would propel the church into the future, much got lost in the news media’s interpretation of what transpired, Benedict said, which led to the “calamities” that have marred recent church history.

The news outlets reduced the proceedings “into a political power struggle between different currents of the church,” Benedict said, and each chose a side that suited its individual vision of the world.

These messages, not that of the council, entered into the public sphere, and that led in the years ahead to “so many calamities, so many problems, seminaries closed, convents that closed, the liturgy trivialized,” the pope said.

Benedict spoke of how the Second Vatican Council had explored ideas of “continuity” between the Old and New Testaments, and of the relationship between the Catholic and Jewish faiths, a thorny issue during his tenure.

“Even if it’s clear that the church isn’t responsible for the Shoah, it’s for the most part Christians who did this crime,” the German-born Benedict said of the Holocaust, adding that this called for a need to “deepen and renovate the Christian conscience,” even if it is true that “real believers only fought against” Nazi barbarism.

At a news briefing on Thursday, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, confirmed a report in the Turin newspaper La Stampa that the pope had accidentally hit his head during a trip to Mexico last March. The press corps traveling with Benedict was not informed of the accident.

The Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano has reported that the pope had decided to retire after returning from that trip. But Father Lombardi rejected La Stampa’s suggestion that the episode might have prompted the decision.

La Stampa reported that Benedict had gotten up in the middle of the night but could not find the light switch in the unfamiliar environment, and had accidentally hit his head on a sink in the bathroom.

An unidentified prelate on the same trip said the pope had come down to breakfast the next morning with blood in his hair, the newspaper said. There was also blood on the pillow, “and a few drops on the carpet,” La Stampa quoted the prelate as saying. “But it was not a deep cut, nor was it worrisome,” and it was covered by the pope’s thick hair, the prelate added. The pope did not complain during the day’s events.

Later that night, the prelate said, he heard that the pope’s doctor had reacted by expressing worries about so much travel, and that Benedict had responded that he too had concerns about traveling.

Father Lombardi said: “I don’t deny that this episode happened, but it didn’t impact on the rest of his trip, nor on his decision to resign. That isn’t linked to one single episode.”

Since Benedict announced the decision, saying he felt he did not have the strength to continue in his ministry, there has been much closer public scrutiny of his health.

On Tuesday, the Vatican confirmed for the first time that the pope had had a pacemaker since his time as a cardinal and had its batteries changed three months ago.

Once retired, Benedict will live in a convent in Vatican City, and will be tended to by the nuns who look after him now. Father Lombardi said Benedict’s longtime personal secretary, Archbishop Georg Gänswein, who was also named prefect of the papal household two months ago, would continue to work for him.

Father Lombardi said he saw no conflict of interest if Archbishop Gänswein served the current pope and his successor.

The prefect is responsible for logistical duties, and “in this sense it is not a profound problem, I think,” Father Lombardi said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/world/europe/benedict-says-he-will-be-hidden-to-the-world-in-retirement.html?hp&_r=1&


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 15, 2013, 10:03:21 am
Pope Says He Will Be Hidden to the World’ Moving in his Underground Bunker in Retirement

Fixed!

Quote
Saying he would soon be “hidden to the world,” Pope Benedict XVI took his leave of parish priests and clergy members of the Diocese of Rome on Thursday as he offered personal, and incisive, recollections of the Second Vatican Council, the gathering of bishops 50 years ago that set the Roman Catholic Church’s course for the future.

Kind of like the past President(George W), who has pretty much been hidden since he left office(although he managed to attended TX Rangers playoff games).

Again, not saying Peter Turkson will be the guy, but it seems like a similar pattern is coming about here.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 15, 2013, 10:08:35 am
Tom Horn & Steve Quayle-The Hagmann & Hagmann Report

 Petrus Romanus - The Final Pope is here. We are witnessing prophecy unfold before our very eyes as we learn that Pope Benedict XVI is stepping down.

Join us for this special broadcast as we welcome back Tom Horn, co-author of Petrus Romanus (with Cris Putnam) and Steve Quayle to discuss this prophesized event.

Special Time: 9:00 p.m. to midnight (ET)

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2013/02/15/the-hagmann-hagmann-report

MP3: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2013/02/15/the-hagmann-hagmann-report.mp3

Listened to the Brannon House segment the other day(where he had on Pinto and Mike Gentren[sp]) - they said that the Jesuits have used these "prophecies" to manipulate world events, ultimately. This so-called "St Malachy prophecy" isn't the first one. Yes, we shouldn't put weight into these mysticism prophecies, but at the same time it's somewhat interesting that alot of the world events we've seen et al, the Jesuits have used all of their "prophecies" over time to manipulate these events.

As for this Horn/Quayle interview - not a fan of either, but it looks like a decent listen.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 15, 2013, 10:47:57 am
Quote
Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 9:19PM
Today's Show: THE BARQUE OF PETER

Chris discusses the old world term for the Papal throne, which was specifically
mentioned by Pope Benedict as he announced his resignation.  But what is the
greater symbolism?  Also, a number of mainstream media news organizations
have reported that lightning struck St. Peter's Basilica in Rome within a few
hours of the Pope's stunning announcement.  Some are calling it a sign from God,
but could it merely be a theatrical stunt?

Theatrical stunt? Don't think so, as HAARP/Weather Control doesn't have this kind of power.

Psa_97:4  His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled.

Psa_135:7  He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 16, 2013, 07:41:45 am
Vatican says conclave could start before March 15

The Vatican said on Saturday that

the conclave to choose the successor to Pope Benedict could

start before March 15 if enough cardinals are in Rome to elect

him.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said Church rules

which regulate the timing of conclaves could be "interpreted"

differently this time because of the unique circumstances of

Benedict's historic resignation.

He had said earlier that the conclave would start between

March 15-20 according to existing rules. But he said on Saturday

that events could move more quickly since the Church was dealing

with an announced resignation and not a sudden papal death.

http://news.yahoo.com/blank-headline-received-115642064.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 16, 2013, 01:18:55 pm
Wouldn't surprise me if they already have picked the new Pope being closed doors many moons ago(alot like how they pre-determine elections here in the USA).

If that's the case, then they might as well make it known now and spare everyone all the gossip, guessing, debating, etc in the media and society.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on February 16, 2013, 10:06:00 pm
See anything in Peter Turkson's coat of arms?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Coat_of_arms_of_Peter_Turkson.svg/567px-Coat_of_arms_of_Peter_Turkson.svg.png)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turkson


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 17, 2013, 06:51:35 am
Latin America is home to almost half the world's Catholics, but will struggle to produce the next pope

The continent has half a billion Christians – but only 21 of the 117 cardinals who will elect the next pontiff


Almost as soon as Benedict XVI announced his resignation, Latin America was abuzz with speculation that the Catholic church would finally choose a pope from the continent with the most believers.

From the mayor of Mexico City to bishops and newspaper commentators in almost every country in the region, the prospects for a first Hispanic pontiff have been raised, weighed or boosted in newspapers, social networks and sermons.

Latin America is home to 41% of the world's 1.2 billion registered Catholics, but of the 117 cardinals who will decide the next pope, only 21 are from Latin America; almost half are from Europe.

For much of the past 50 years, swaths of Latin America have embraced a more socially active vision of the church's role in alleviating poverty and resisting dictatorships. "Liberation Theology" has proved highly controversial in the Vatican, where conservatives have been wary of the movement's overt Marxist sympathies. Before succeeding John Paul II, Benedict XVI proved his mettle by taking on the Liberation Theologians, whom he described as a "fundamental threat to the faith of the church".

None of the Latin American candidates is likely to introduce radical changes, though they could offer a change of tone and a continental shift in perspectives.

The best known is probably Argentine Cardinal Leonardo Sandri, who rose to public attention when he served as the voice of John Paul while the last pope was unable to speak due to Parkinson's disease. He also announced the pontiff's death. Now 69, Sandri, who speaks five languages, has held several senior positions in the Vatican, including his current role as head of the congregation of Oriental churches, which makes him responsible for Catholics in Bethlehem and elsewhere in the Holy Land. But some have noted that Sandri's star has been waning in recent years; his current role is less influential than the positions he occupied under John Paul.

If demographics were a major factor, then the leading Latin American candidate would probably be Odilo Pedro Scherer, the 63-year-old archbishop of Sao Paulo, the biggest city in Brazil and the continent.

The possibility of a first Hispanic pope has been widely picked up in the Brazilian media. The influential Veja magazine speculated that Scherer might be in the frame. There are five Brazilians among the 119 cardinals who are eligible to vote.

Brazil is the world's biggest Catholic nation with an estimated 150 million believers, 75% of the population. But this is a decline on the 90% recorded in the past – a result of secularism and a strong challenge by evangelical methodist groups and Islam but the country's importance to the church was evident in Benedict XVI's decision to make Sao Paulo the destination in 2007 of his first of his two trips to Latin America

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/17/pope-latin-america


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 17, 2013, 01:41:45 pm
I saw an article last night over whether or not the next Pope will come from America.

Whoever the next Pope is, it's likely the case he's already been pre-determined awhile back(whether it's Peter Turkson or whoever). Alot like elections in America where the Presidents are pre-determined years in advance.

With that being said - they might as well save everyone from this time-consuming dog and pony show going back and forth over who it should/shouldn't be by going ahead and officially making known the new Pope now.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 17, 2013, 04:47:04 pm
Pope Gives Two Weeks Notice

by Jack Kinsella

February 14, 2013

www.olivetreeviews.org


The Catholic church was thrown into turmoil [Monday] after Pope Benedict XVI made the shock decision to quit the papacy because of his deteriorating health. The decision, delivered in Latin and in unemotional tones by Pope Benedict XVI to a gathering of cardinals on Monday, came ''like a bolt out of the blue'', one of the participants said, and it soon ricocheted around the world.

In a decision that surprised even his closest aides, the 85-year-old Pontiff said his strength was 'no longer adequate to continue in office due to his advanced age'.  He announced his resignation in Latin to a meeting of Vatican cardinals this morning, saying he did not have the 'strength of mind and body' to continue leading more than a billion Roman Catholics worldwide.

He is the first Pope to resign since Gregory XII in 1415 and no Pontiff in history has stepped down on health grounds. Shortly after making his announcement, the statue of Peter's horse atop St Peter's Basilica was struck by lightning not once but TWICE.

Which brings us full circle to when Pope Benedict was elected in 2005 to replace the late John Paul II bringing an obscure 10th century Irish priest back to the center square.

According to legend, Irish Bishop Malachy O'Morgair had a strange vision during a trip to Rome to report to Pope Innocent II.

In his vision, Malachy was given a list of all the Popes who would rule over the Catholic Church from his day until the Second Coming.  Malachy put the list together using short announcements that indicated some noticeable trait from each Pope, beginning with Pope Celestine II, who was elected in 1130.

Altogether, St. Malachy listed a total of 112 Popes from Celestine II until the return of Christ.  He committed the visions to paper and handed the manuscript to Pope Innocent II.  Innocent placed the manuscript in the archives where they remained "unread" for nearly four centuries.

Pope John Paul I was the 109th Pope.  Malachy identified him by the motto, 'de medietate lunae' which means 'of the half moon'.  John Paul I held one of the shortest pontificates in Vatican history, living only 34 days after his elevation to the papacy.  John Paul I was elected Pope on August 26, 1978 and reigned from one moon cycle to the next.

St. Malachy's motto for John Paul II was 'de labore solis' which is interpreted either as 'from the toil of the sun' or, 'of the eclipse of the sun'. Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920, during a solar eclipse.  He was buried at the Vatican on April 8, 2005.

The following is a verbatim quote from MSNBC, dated April 8, 2005.

"The moon blotted out the sun Friday across a wide stretch extending from the South Pacific to the Americas, with a precious few witnessing a total eclipse at sea. Thousands more flocked to Central and South America to see the sun reduced to a narrow "ring of fire" around the dark moon."

The motto, "Gloria Olivae" which means the 'glory of the olive'.  One of the many Catholic 'orders' is the Order of St Benedict, which is also known as the 'Olivetans'.  Cardinal Ratzinger chose for his Papal name, Benedict XIV.

According to the legend, Benedict XIV will be the last Pope before 'Peter the Roman' of whom Malachy has much more to say than he does of the other Popes. Instead of a motto, Malachy gave specifics, writing;

"In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people".

Assessment:

Logic and Scripture both dictate that true prophecy can only come from God.  Logically, a prophecy concerning the future requires perfect foreknowledge, not just of the event itself, but of the consequences of every previous event that leads up to the event being prophesied.

For example, the restoration of Israel.

Had it not been for the Holocaust, the Jews of Europe would still be European Jews, instead of Holocaust survivors forced by circumstances to seek a Jewish State for their collective security.

If Hitler's great-granny had joined a convent or got hit by a bus before giving birth to Hitler's ancestor, there'd have been no Nazi Party, no WWII, no Holocaust, and, arguably, no reason for world Jewry to seek a Jewish State at that particular point in history.

Scripture identifies prophecy as God's 'signature'.

"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure:" (Isaiah 46:10-11)

The Scriptures also say that Divine revelation concluded with the Revelation of Jesus Christ to the Apostle John.

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book." (Revelation 22:18)

So, if both the Scriptures and common logic demand that only God can be the Author of prophecy, what are we to do with St. Malachy?  There are all kinds of problems that can be ascribed to Malachy's prophecies in order to mount an attempt to discredit them.

They were 'hidden away' in the Vatican for centuries, prompting some to speculate they were actually written in the 16th, rather than the 11th century.

That would explain how Malachy could seemingly 'prophesy' the sixty-six popes from Celestine in 1130 to Paul III in 1549.  But it doesn't explain the seemingly amazing accuracy of Malachy's mottos for the other sixty-six Popes from Paul III forward.

Malachy just nailed, it would seem, Pope #45 in a row -- since the list was unsealed in the 16th century -- with the elevation of Benedict the Olivetan.  That's a pretty amazing record no matter how you look at it.  Is it of God?

I don't think so.  The oldest lie in human history was offered by Satan in the Garden of Eden.

"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5)

Human beings know right from wrong, because those are actions.  Good and evil, on the other hand, are OUTCOMES, something known only to God.

God often uses evil for good.  When Joseph confronted his brothers for selling him into slavery in Egypt, Joseph noted that they meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.

Extra-biblical prophecy always has the same fatal flaw, whether one looks at Nostradamus or Malachy.  They 'prophesy' ACTIONS, not OUTCOMES.

Bible prophecy tells 'the end from the beginning'.  Nostradamus was able, according to his apologists, to foretell the rise of Hitler, but Nostradamus failed to prognosticate Hitler's defeat.  Malachy's prophecies are similarly vague and open to broad interpretation.

Satan is a master counterfeiter and he wants nothing less than to be worshiped as God.  He is also capable of 'prophecy' in the sense that he has his own master plan and his own timetable.  The difference with Satan is that not everything always goes exactly to plan, since he is a created, and therefore, fallible, being.

But it is no stretch to say he was capable of influencing Hitler's rise as part of his master plan, or that he could have 'inspired' Nostradamus to 'predict' it.  When the time was right, Satan just picked the closest match he could find, and let the human imagination fill in the blanks.

Neither would it be difficult for Satan to influence the decisions of the College of Cardinals to select the series of Popes who most closely fits Malachy's list.

Satan isn't infallible, but he can read the Bible as well as you or I can.  Plus he has the added advantage of six thousand years of manipulating mankind, and the Scriptures reveal that God originally blessed him with superior intelligence.

Pope Benedict was the Vatican's official Head Inquisitor and 'Defender of the Faith' until his elevation to the papacy.  The only actual connection between Benedict and the Olivetans is his choice of papal name.

But it comes close to fitting Malachy's prophecy, and it is no stretch to think Satan is as capable of influencing a papal candidate as he is of influencing any other mortal.  If Satan wanted Ratzinger to take the name 'Benedict', he could sure make it seem like it was a good idea at the time.

The same with John Paul II and the eclipses.  Satan can do the math and figure out solar eclipses in advance.  We can.  It then becomes a matter of picking the closest match and manipulating events to fit.

Here is what we know about our enemy: Satan is the universe's master deceiver.  His ultimate goal is to be received as God.  Only God is capable of prophecy.

But Satan has a counterfeit plan of his own, and he has had six thousand years to develop it.  St Malachy's 'prophecies' -- like other extra-biblical prophecies, are part of that overall plan to counterfeit the miracles of God, so that, one day,

"He as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2nd Thessalonians 2:4)

But Malachy's prophecies, counterfeit or not, do confirm what the Scriptures say in one respect.  It confirms that it isn't just Bible prophecy 'nuts' who believe we are in the last days.  It seems that Satan believes it, too.

In any case, we'll find out soon.  Pope Benedict has given his notice.  First. let's recap:

St. Malachy predicted the 110th Pope would be associated with a solar eclipse. John Paul II was born during a solar eclipse, and a solar eclipse occurred on the day of his funeral.  How weird is that?

St. Malachy assigned the 111th Pope "glory of the olive" whose name ultimately derives from the Mount of Olives in the New Testament.  The 111th Pope chose the name of the Benedictine Order.

The 112th Pope will be the last Pope (as assigned by St. Malachy).  If he chooses any name except Peter, then St. Malachy's predictive run will have completed its course and one more Vatican conspiracy will bite the dust.

". . . Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.  The end."

On the other hand . . . if Malachy gets this one right, it will be just one more confirmation that we are living in the last of the last days before the Lord returns. 

 

Maranatha!   

Parting thought from Jan: Each day something takes place that reminds us how late the hour is. It is almost breathtaking!
We hope you are seizing the opportunity to 1) share your faith, and 2) encourage one another (Hebrews 10:25).



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 17, 2013, 07:35:15 pm
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The 112th Pope will be the last Pope (as assigned by St. Malachy).  If he chooses any name except Peter, then St. Malachy's predictive run will have completed its course and one more Vatican conspiracy will bite the dust.

". . . Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.  The end."

On the other hand . . . if Malachy gets this one right, it will be just one more confirmation that we are living in the last of the last days before the Lord returns. 


Disagreed - whether this "prophecy" comes to pass or not, Jesus Christ already gave us his word to discern and understand the signs of the times of the end. We already are witnessing alot of them now(events in Israel and Syria escalating very high, global economic collapse imminent, America being taken over from within, Apostasy in American/world churches at an all-time low, homosexual agenda slowly getting accepted, abortions at an all time high, entertainment media at an all time wickedness level, etc).

For example, did this 12/21/2012 prophecy not coming to pass stall bible prophecy at all? Absolutely NOT!

Mat 16:1  The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
Mat 16:2  He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
Mat 16:3  And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
Mat 16:4  A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.


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". . . Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.  The end."


Well, just for the sake of argument, this is already a false prophecy, why?

Act_14:22  Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh_16:33  These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Christians have been going through alot of tribulations since the age of grace began 2000 years ago.(THE great tribulation happens in the last 7 years) It's not like it'll be some last Pope that will emerge and feed the sheep in the 3rd millenium after not being fed for 2000 some years. And whether you're pre trib or post trib, this won't be the case either, why? B/c with pre trib, believers will be snatched away before the great tribulation, and with post trib, believers will be beheaded.

Rev 3:10  Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Rev 3:11  Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


Rev 13:15  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

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Tom Horn & Steve Quayle-The Hagmann & Hagmann Report

 Petrus Romanus - The Final Pope is here. We are witnessing prophecy unfold before our very eyes as we learn that Pope Benedict XVI is stepping down.

Join us for this special broadcast as we welcome back Tom Horn, co-author of Petrus Romanus (with Cris Putnam) and Steve Quayle to discuss this prophesized event.

Listened to 2/3 of this today - LONG, and not the world's biggest fans of Horn and Quayle(and they could have edited out at least 1 hour of mumble jumble), but nonetheless they gave out some very interesting stuff. Apparently representatives from all over the world will attend the appointment of the next Pope(I understood it as all world leaders, but not sure), and they talked a bit about the "Prometheus" movie and how it was really being pushed on the masses for conditioning. They also talked about the "alien" deception in detail.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 17, 2013, 08:20:28 pm

 whether this "prophecy" comes to pass or not

well the only people who are promoting this prophecy are Quayle and Horn, and quite frankly, they put out some good programs to listen too, none of the crap they put out is BIBLICAL!! I fully believe they ate closet catholics, especially Horn.

The one thing im hearing from people i listen to for real information about all of this and that i agree with, is that Malachy ISNT IN THE BIBLE!! its that simple. Pinto, Hoggard and some others all have said this snce this has come about and  fully agree with them. Malachy was a full blown 100% mary worshiping catholic. How could you possibly believe anything he has to say. and HELLO!! this is a prophecy from the catholic church!! Evan Satan knows what is coming.  :o  ::)  :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 17, 2013, 08:32:57 pm
well the only people who are promoting this prophecy are Quayle and Horn, and quite frankly, they put out some good programs to listen too, none of the crap they put out is BIBLICAL!! I fully believe they ate closet catholics, especially Horn.

The one thing im hearing from people i listen to for real information about all of this and that i agree with, is that Malachy ISNT IN THE BIBLE!! its that simple. Pinto, Hoggard and some others all have said this snce this has come about and  fully agree with them. Malachy was a full blown 100% mary worshiping catholic. How could you possibly believe anything he has to say. and HELLO!! this is a prophecy from the catholic church!! Evan Satan knows what is coming.  :o  ::)  :D

Haven't listened to Hoggard's view, but Pinto did some solid audio explanations on this. In addition, my big gripe with alot of these end times ministries like Jan Markell's, Jack Kinsela's, etc(in article you posted above) is that they come off with rhetoric like "If Peter the Roman comes to pass, then we're living in the last days, but if the next Pope isn't Peter the Roman, then life will go on". No, I don't think they're trying to intentionally deceive, but at the same time they're over-thinking themselves and ending up misleading their listeners.

And yes, like said above, that program Horn/Quayle did recently was TOO long and drawn out(didn't bother finishing listening to it). With that being said, I don't think the AC/FP will involve the Pope.

Rev 17:16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh0re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 17, 2013, 08:53:54 pm


And yes, like said above, that program Horn/Quayle did recently was TOO long and drawn out(didn't bother finishing listening to it). With that being said, I don't think the AC/FP will involve the Pope.


why? That would be the perfect person as the catholic church encompasses EVERY mystery religion. The Pope can and has embraced every religion on the planet except Biblical Christianity. I can easily see the pope as a false prophet.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 17, 2013, 09:17:14 pm
why? That would be the perfect person as the catholic church encompasses EVERY mystery religion. The Pope can and has embraced every religion on the planet except Biblical Christianity. I can easily see the pope as a false prophet.

I got the impression from that passage of scripture that the wh0re of Babylon(the Vatican in Rome) will get destroyed when the beast/FP make their appearances. Yes, I believe the RCC is playing a big role now to help usher in the OWR, but ultimately they could be backstabbed(especially if the AC/FP are Muslim).

As for this "St Malachy prophecy" - looks like the MSM is running away debating this now.
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AtPj_8ZsHm1z70KPez1N52mbvZx4?fr=yfp-t-701-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=st%20malachy%20pope%20prophecy

We've been through this ad-nauseum before with Harold Camping, 12/21/2012, etc.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 18, 2013, 12:26:09 am
And less not forget about the infamous Mormon White Horse Prophecy as well - I remember Bill Cooper making a big deal out of it too(a long time ago, that is).

Yeah, so much for Alex and the alternative media claiming the election was going to be rigged for Romney. ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 18, 2013, 01:59:30 am
If the pope is anything, it would be the False Prophet. The Antichrist I think will be either from the Middle East, a Muslim, or some unknown European.

Many predict or prophecy about all kinds of stuff, but like scripture says...

18  I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19  And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require [it] of him.
20  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21  And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Deuteronomy 18:18-22 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 18, 2013, 09:40:51 am
If the pope is anything, it would be the False Prophet. The Antichrist I think will be either from the Middle East, a Muslim, or some unknown European.

Many predict or prophecy about all kinds of stuff, but like scripture says...

18  I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19  And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require [it] of him.
20  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21  And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Deuteronomy 18:18-22 (KJB)


Good passage! And definitely one to keep in mind alot.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 18, 2013, 12:26:22 pm
Joh_5:43  I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-resignation-deepens-doubt-despondency-italians-152227911.html

Pope resignation deepens doubt, despondency for Italians

2/18/13

ROME (Reuters) - Pope Benedict's shock resignation has robbed Italians of the one element of certainty in a time of deep doubt, with the country beset by graft scandals and heading for an election that will not bring the radical change so many crave.
 
The pontiff has long been the one stable element for Roman Catholic Italians in a modern state that has become a byword for political instability and flawed politicians.
 
All that changed a week ago when Benedict announced he would be the first pontiff in 700 years to resign, causing alarm and despondency among many faithful in a country whose history has been shaped by the presence of the headquarters of the Church for 2,000 years.
 
"We are in a moment of social, ideological and cultural crisis and in a moment like that it is completely wrong for him to leave," said Emanuele Vitale, 22, a Sicilian student who joined around 100,000 people packed into St Peter's Square on Sunday for one of Benedict's last appearances before his resignation on February 28.
 
Another person in the square, pensioner Antonio Mingrone, 68, said: "It is unsettling. At a time when there are all these political conflicts and an economic crisis, it is one more thing weighing on our minds."
 
Outgoing Prime Minister Mario Monti, himself a devout Catholic, referred to the "disorientation" of Italians over the pope's decision. "It seems like an epoch is changing on both sides of the Tiber and we feel robbed of points of reference."
 
Massimo Franco, a leading Italian political commentator and author of several books on the Vatican, told Reuters: "The resignation adds instability to instability. The Church which was a source of stability is now a major source of instability.
 
"Today the Vatican is a sort of mirror of Italy," Franco said. "Before it was the opposite. Now there is a chaotic Italy and chaotic Vatican."
 
Italians will vote next Sunday and Monday in an election whose outcome is still unpredictable at a time when the country desperately needs firm and decisive government to address a major recession, stagnant growth and soaring unemployment.
 
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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 18, 2013, 01:06:03 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215

2/15/13

Pope will have security, immunity by remaining in the Vatican

(Reuters) - Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say.

"His continued presence in the Vatican is necessary, otherwise he might be defenseless. He wouldn't have his immunity, his prerogatives, his security, if he is anywhere else," said one Vatican official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"It is absolutely necessary" that he stays in the Vatican, said the source, adding that Benedict should have a "dignified existence" in his remaining years.

Vatican sources said officials had three main considerations in deciding that Benedict should live in a convent in the Vatican after he resigns on February 28.

Vatican police, who already know the pope and his habits, will be able to guarantee his privacy and security and not have to entrust it to a foreign police force, which would be necessary if he moved to another country.

"I see a big problem if he would go anywhere else. I'm thinking in terms of his personal security, his safety. We don't have a secret service that can devote huge resources (like they do) to ex-presidents," the official said.

Another consideration was that if the pope did move permanently to another country, living in seclusion in a monastery in his native Germany, for example, the location might become a place of pilgrimage.

POTENTIAL EXPOSURE

This could be complicated for the Church, particularly in the unlikely event that the next pope makes decisions that may displease conservatives, who could then go to Benedict's place of residence to pay tribute to him.

"That would be very problematic," another Vatican official said.

The final key consideration is the pope's potential exposure to legal claims over the Catholic Church's sexual abuse scandals.

In 2010, for example, Benedict was named as a defendant in a law suit alleging that he failed to take action as a cardinal in 1995 when he was allegedly told about a priest who had abused boys at a U.S. school for the deaf decades earlier. The lawyers withdrew the case last year and the Vatican said it was a major victory that proved the pope could not be held liable for the actions of abusive priests.

Benedict is currently not named specifically in any other case. The Vatican does not expect any more but is not ruling out the possibility.

"(If he lived anywhere else) then we might have those crazies who are filing lawsuits, or some magistrate might arrest him like other (former) heads of state have been for alleged acts while he was head of state," one source said.

Another official said: "While this was not the main consideration, it certainly is a corollary, a natural result."

After he resigns, Benedict will no longer be the sovereign monarch of the State of Vatican City, which is surrounded by Rome, but will retain Vatican citizenship and residency.

LATERAN PACTS

That would continue to provide him immunity under the provisions of the Lateran Pacts while he is in the Vatican and even if he makes jaunts into Italy as a Vatican citizen.

The 1929 Lateran Pacts between Italy and the Holy See, which established Vatican City as a sovereign state, said Vatican City would be "invariably and in every event considered as neutral and inviolable territory".

There have been repeated calls for Benedict's arrest over sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

When Benedict went to Britain in 2010, British author and atheist campaigner Richard Dawkins asked authorities to arrest the pope to face questions over the Church's child abuse scandal.

Dawkins and the late British-American journalist Christopher Hitchens commissioned lawyers to explore ways of taking legal action against the pope. Their efforts came to nothing because the pope was a head of state and so enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

In 2011, victims of sexual abuse by the clergy asked the International Criminal Court to investigate the pope and three Vatican officials over sexual abuse.

The New York-based rights group Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and another group, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP), filed a complaint with the ICC alleging that Vatican officials committed crimes against humanity because they tolerated and enabled sex crimes.

The ICC has not taken up the case but has never said why. It generally does not comment on why it does not take up cases.

NOT LIKE A CEO

The Vatican has consistently said that a pope cannot be held accountable for cases of abuse committed by others because priests are employees of individual dioceses around the world and not direct employees of the Vatican. It says the head of the church cannot be compared to the CEO of a company.

Victims groups have said Benedict, particularly in his previous job at the head of the Vatican's doctrinal department, turned a blind eye to the overall policies of local Churches, which moved abusers from parish to parish instead of defrocking them and handing them over to authorities.

The Vatican has denied this. The pope has apologized for abuse in the Church, has met with abuse victims on many of his trips, and ordered a major investigation into abuse in Ireland.

But groups representing some of the victims say the Pope will leave office with a stain on his legacy because he was in positions of power in the Vatican for more than three decades, first as a cardinal and then as pope, and should have done more.

The scandals began years before the then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected pope in 2005 but the issue has overshadowed his papacy from the beginning, as more and more cases came to light in dioceses across the world.

As recently as last month, the former archbishop of Los Angeles, Cardinal Roger Mahony, was stripped by his successor of all public and administrative duties after a thousands of pages of files detailing abuse in the 1980s were made public.

Mahony, who was archbishop of Los Angeles from 1985 until 2011, has apologized for "mistakes" he made as archbishop, saying he had not been equipped to deal with the problem of sexual misconduct involving children. The pope was not named in that case.

In 2007, the Los Angeles archdiocese, which serves 4 million Catholics, reached a $660 million civil settlement with more than 500 victims of child molestation, the biggest agreement of its kind in the United States.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said the pope "gave the fight against sexual abuse a new impulse, ensuring that new rules were put in place to prevent future abuse and to listen to victims. That was a great merit of his papacy and for that we will be grateful".

(Reporting by Philip Pullella; Additional reporting by Robin Pomeroy; Edited by Simon Robinson and Giles Elgood)



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 18, 2013, 07:41:37 pm
Scott so nails this and exposes Tom Horn, Chris Putnam and Steve Quayle.


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http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=4837

End Time Current Events: 2-17-13-Part 1

Table of Contents:
 » Pope Resigns & the Malachy Prophecy
 » Tom Horn, Cris Putnam & Raiders News Network are at it again: Promoting the Catholic Death Cult and its “Prophets” as an “End Time” Source of Truth

Audio: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/350.1-2-17-13-DS300006-C.mp3

http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=4831

End Time Current Events: 2-17-13–Part 2
 
Table of Contents:
 » Cardinal Peter Turkson Has Emerged As The Oddsmakers 3-to-1 Favorite to become the Next Pope
 » A Sign From Above? Lightning Strikes Vatican On Pope’s Shock Resignation
 » Anglicans seeking full communion with Rome: We Are In a Particular Way Spiritual Children of Benedict XVI
 » Pope accused of crimes against humanity by victims of sex abuse
 » The Most Evil Pictures of Pope Benedict (Suitable for Framing or an 8X10 Glossy-Sarcasm)
 » Open Letter and Appeal to Giorgio Napolitano, President of the Republic of Italy from Kevin D. Annett, Secretary of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State
 » Reuters Bombshell Report: Roman Church admits the Pope’s Guilt: Joseph Ratzinger to Evade Justice and will hide out in the Vatican for his own legal immunity and “protection” against being convicted on Catholic, pedophilic sex crimes cover-up
 » Benedict XVI the Vatican Last Tsar: Final despotic acts-Vatican jails: worldwide locations
 » Benedict XVI’s Role in Global Ecumenism
 » As Pope Benedict XVI prepares to leave office, one Jewish journalist takes a hard look backward to the Pope’s attitude toward Jews.
 » POPE JOHN PAUL II — 25 YEARS OF CONTINUING TRADITION OF THE PAGAN SUN GOD WORSHIP
 » Catholicism & Freemasonry both are Sun Worship / Phallic Baal Worship.

Audio: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/350.2-2-17-13-DS300007.mp3

PDF: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/End-Time-Current-Events-2-17-13.pdf


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 18, 2013, 07:48:34 pm
Yeah, while Horn, Putnam, and Quayle didn't explicitly embrace the RCC, their rhetoric sure made it clear they had nothing but kind things to say about this cult. They were pretty subtle, to say the least.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 18, 2013, 08:18:47 pm
Yeah, while Horn, Putnam, and Quayle didn't explicitly embrace the RCC, their rhetoric sure made it clear they had nothing but kind things to say about this cult. They were pretty subtle, to say the least.

they also support gap theory and an ancient Earth and do not support the KJB


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 20, 2013, 10:16:55 am
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-may-change-conclave-rules-abdication-vatican-130553697.html

Pope may change conclave rules before leaving: Vatican

2/20/13

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict may change Church rules governing the conclave where cardinals from around the world will meet next month to secretly elect his successor, the Vatican said on Wednesday.
 
Benedict was studying the possibility of making changes to two laws established by his predecessor Pope John Paul before he abdicates on February 28, a spokesman said.
 
The changes may affect the timing of the start of the conclave.
 
Spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said Benedict was considering making changes that would "harmonize" two documents approved by his predecessor.
 
One governs the period while the papacy is vacant, known as the "Sede Vacante," and another is more specific about the running of the conclave after it begins.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 21, 2013, 01:18:21 pm
Rev 17:10  And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11  And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 21, 2013, 04:40:56 pm
I believe verse 17 talks of the beast being a spirit. Notice it says " and is not", so how could that be? If you are not physically a part of the 7, then you must have some part spiritually/same mind, or an actual eighth person which is most likely.

He being, "is the eighth", shows he's not actually one of the seven, but a separate entity. Being "of the seven" to me says he's of the same mind as the seven kings, or rather those seven have the evil mind of the eighth person, the beast himself.

It appears to me that these "seven" are periods of rule rather than specific people. So these "kings", or periods of rule, are stretched out over time, the end being, "the other is not yet come".

12  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13  These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him [are] called, and chosen, and faithful.
Revelation 17:12-14 (KJB)


The persons to watch as a group are these 10 with "no kingdom" that receive power as kings, but their position will be short or limited, and what power they have, they put in support of the beast.

I'm personally not sure if these 10 are part of a group, are separate individuals, or are some group of countries, etc. because it says they receive the power, which suggest they as a group are somehow elevated or are esteemed people of society, or singled out from different disciplines, or briefly given some kind of authority they normally don't have. Sounds almost like a group of people that are specifically picked to act in some official capacity on behalf of the beast.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 22, 2013, 11:41:20 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry

2/21/13

Papal resignation linked to inquiry into 'Vatican gay officials', says paper

Pope's staff decline to confirm or deny La Repubblica claims linking 'Vatileaks' affair and discovery of 'blackmailed gay clergy'


A potentially explosive report has linked the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI to the discovery of a network of gay prelates in the Vatican, some of whom – the report said – were being blackmailed by outsiders.

The pope's spokesman declined to confirm or deny the report, which was carried by the Italian daily newspaper La Repubblica.

The paper said the pope had taken the decision on 17 December that he was going to resign – the day he received a dossier compiled by three cardinals delegated to look into the so-called "Vatileaks" affair.

Last May Pope Benedict's butler, Paolo Gabriele, was arrested and charged with having stolen and leaked papal correspondence that depicted the Vatican as a seething hotbed of intrigue and infighting.

According to La Repubblica, the dossier comprising "two volumes of almost 300 pages – bound in red" had been consigned to a safe in the papal apartments and would be delivered to the pope's successor upon his election.

The newspaper said the cardinals described a number of factions, including one whose members were "united by sexual orientation".

In an apparent quotation from the report, La Repubblica said some Vatican officials had been subject to "external influence" from laymen with whom they had links of a "worldly nature". The paper said this was a clear reference to blackmail.

It quoted a source "very close to those who wrote [the cardinal's report]" as saying: "Everything revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandments."

The seventh enjoins against theft. The sixth forbids adultery, but is linked in Catholic doctrine to the proscribing of homosexual acts.

La Repubblica said the cardinals' report identified a series of meeting places in and around Rome. They included a villa outside the Italian capital, a sauna in a Rome suburb, a beauty parlour in the centre, and a former university residence that was in use by a provincial Italian archbishop.

Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, said: "Neither the cardinals' commission nor I will make comments to confirm or deny the things that are said about this matter. Let each one assume his or her own responsibilities. We shall not be following up on the observations that are made about this."

He added that interpretations of the report were creating "a tension that is the opposite of what the pope and the church want" in the approach to the conclave of cardinals that will elect Benedict's successor. Another Italian daily, Corriere della Sera, alluded to the dossier soon after the pope announced his resignation on 11 February, describing its contents as "disturbing".

The three-man commission of inquiry into the Vatileaks affair was headed by a Spanish cardinal, Julián Herranz. He was assisted by Cardinal Salvatore De Giorgi, a former archbishop of Palermo, and the Slovak cardinal Jozef Tomko, who once headed the Vatican's department for missionaries.

Pope Benedict has said he will stand down at the end of this month; the first pope to resign voluntarily since Celestine V more than seven centuries ago. Since announcing his departure he has twice apparently referred to machinations inside the Vatican, saying that divisions "mar the face of the church", and warned against "the temptations of power".

La Repubblica's report was the latest in a string of claims that a gay network exists in the Vatican. In 2007 a senior official was suspended from the congregation, or department, for the priesthood, after he was filmed in a "sting" organised by an Italian television programme while apparently making sexual overtures to a younger man.

In 2010 a chorister was dismissed for allegedly procuring male prostitutes for a papal gentleman-in-waiting. A few months later a weekly news magazine used hidden cameras to record priests visiting gay clubs and bars and having sex.

The Vatican does not condemn homosexuals. But it teaches that gay sex is "intrinsically disordered". Pope Benedict has barred sexually active gay men from studying for the priesthood.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 22, 2013, 11:41:48 am
Rom 1:20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 25, 2013, 12:10:10 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/british-cardinal-skip-papal-conclave-113659642.html

2/25/13

British Cardinal to skip papal conclave

LONDON (AP) — Cardinal Keith O'Brien, Britain's highest-ranking Catholic leader, says he is resigning as archbishop in the wake of misconduct allegations and will be skipping the conclave to elect a successor to Pope Benedict XVI.
 
The cardinal said in a statement Monday that he will not attend because he doesn't want media attention focused on him during the important session in Rome.
 
Experts said the decision not to attend the papal conclave is unprecedented; never before has a cardinal stayed away from a conclave because of personal scandal, according to Vatican historian Ambrogio Piazzoni, the vice prefect of the Vatican library.
 
The Vatican confirmed that O'Brien had resigned as archbishop of Saint Andrews and Edinburgh. It was accepted under the code of canon law due to O'Brien's age; he turns 75 — the normal retirement age for bishops — on March 17.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 25, 2013, 01:34:00 pm
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/25/17087109-pope-changes-catholic-law-to-allow-earlier-start-for-conclave?lite

2/25/13

Pope changes Catholic law to allow earlier start for conclave

Pope Benedict has changed Catholic Church rules to allow the conclave that will choose his successor to be held earlier if cardinals are ready, the Vatican said Monday.

In a motu proprio – in effect, a personal decree – he introduced modifications to the laws governing the timing of the secret election, which had been due to begin on March 15 or later.

Pope Benedict XVI officially stands down from his role on Feb 28, having resigned earlier this month citing his own failing health.

A conclave – the behind-closed-doors ballot of cardinals – cannot begin within 15 days of the papacy becoming vacant; in this case, March 15.

But the amendment to that rule, announced on Monday and reported by Vatican Radio, means the process could begin earlier if all the eligible cardinals arrive in Rome sooner
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The date of the conclave's start is important, The Associated Press reported, because Holy Week begins March 24, with Easter Sunday March 31. In order to have a new pope in place for the church's most solemn liturgical period, he would need to be installed by Sunday, March 17 — a tight timeframe if a conclave were to start March 15.

The number of cardinals eligible to take part reduced by one, from 117 to 116, on Monday after the sudden departure of Britain’s most senior Roman Catholic, Cardinal Keith O’Brien, who is facing allegations from priests of “inappropriate behavior.”

The Observer newspaper reported Sunday that the Vatican had been notified of the allegations, which stretch back 30 years.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 26, 2013, 04:03:42 pm
Nothing new here, but nonetheless elections and appointments to high offices are pre-determined years in advanced(ie-Obama as far back as the 80's here), so it looks like maybe Turkson is the one the NWO people are introducing in advance.

http://news.yahoo.com/ghanas-turkson-irish-bookmakers-favorite-pope-211535402--finance.html

2/26/13

Ghana's Turkson is Irish bookmakers' favorite for new pope

LONDON (Reuters) - Ghana's Peter Turkson is the Irish bookmakers' favorite to replace Pope Benedict, putting a non-European in pole position to lead the 1.2 billion-member Roman Catholic Church for the first time in more than a millennium.
 
Irish bookmaker Paddy Power offered odds of 11/4 against for Turkson, meaning successful punters would win 11 pounds for every four staked, while Britain's second largest bookmaker Ladbrokes offered odds of 5/2 against.
 
Turkson would be the first non-European to lead the Catholic church in more than a millennium if he is chosen to succeed Benedict. Italian Angelo Scola is second favorite according to Paddy Power at 3/1 against.
 
"Pope Benedict quitting leaves a tall hat to fill - let's just hope God gives him a good reference for his next job," a Paddy Power spokesperson said in a statement. "As for the betting, the real action kicks off now."
 
The new pope will inherit a Church scarred by Vatileaks and by child abuse scandals in Europe and the United States, both of which may have weighed on Benedict's decision to decide he was too old and weak to continue the papacy.
 
The pope has two days left before he takes the historic step of becoming the first pontiff in some six centuries to step down instead of ruling for life.
 
Betting on the new pope earlier in February had ranked Nigeria's Cardinal Francis Arinze and Canadian Marc Ouellet alongside Turkson in a three 'cardinal' race.
 
Some 115 cardinals will enter a closed-door conclave at the Vatican in March.
 
"While Turkson and Scola are currently out in front, let us not forget those fabled words ‘he who enters the conclave as Pope, leaves it as a Cardinal'," the Paddy Power spokesman said.
 
Paddy Power said Turkson has attracted the highest number of bets, accounting for 15 percent of the market and is shouldering the biggest single bet of 5,000 pounds ($7,600).
 
The head of the Vatican's justice and peace department, the Ghanaian has been tipped as Africa's frontrunner in a contest heavy with speculation that a Latin American or African could be elected as chief of the 1.2 billion-strong Catholic population.
 
While Canada's Ouellet is still in the running at 7/1 according to Ladbrokes, Arinze's standing at both bookmakers has sunk to 25/1.
 
Paddy Power said that betting on who will be elected as the new pope is set to become the largest non-sporting market in its history. It said it had taken 300,000 pounds on "pope betting".
 
Dark horses include a fictional character from Irish sitcom Father Ted, the simple-minded Father Dougal McGuire, who has attracted nine more bets than real-life Brazilian Cardinal Claudio Hummes. ($1 = 0.6608 British pounds)
 
(Reporting by Sarah Young; Editing by Guy Faulconbridge and Jon Hemming)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 27, 2013, 08:05:46 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/leading-catholic-blogger-sees-more-193122726.html

2/27/13

Leading Catholic Blogger Sees More Evidence That The Pope Is Gay

Pope Benedict XVI will officially retire at 8 p.m. tomorrow, but his retirement package is raising a few eyebrows — and resurrecting rumors about his sexuality.
 
Rather than decamp to some monastery in Germany as many expected, Benedict will instead stay living in the Vatican.
 
CNN reports he will be living in the Mater Ecclesiae (Mother of the Church) building, which formerly housed a cloistered convent in the Vatican gardens. He will be referred to as the "emeritus pope" and keep wearing the white — though he will lose his trademark red shoes, perhaps wearing a pair of "handcrafted brown loafers" instead, the WSJ reports.
 
One detail that has caused particular scrutiny is that the Pope will continue to live with his trusted secretary Archbishop Georg Ganswein, who will also be head of the new Pope's household — from the sounds of it, working two jobs.
 
The Vatican denies that Ganswein working for both the old Pope and the new Pope will cause any conflict of interest. But there's a more scandalous question as well, as put forward by Andrew Sullivan, perhaps the best-known Catholic blogger in America, today:
 
So Benedict’s handsome male companion will continue to live with him, while working for the other Pope during the day. Are we supposed to think that’s, well, a normal arrangement?
 
Sulivan, a gay man himself, has raised the question of the Pope's sexuality before (he doesn't suggest that the Pope has acted upon his sexual urges, we should note).
 
In 2010 he wrote that "it seems pretty obvious to me ... that the current Pope is a gay man," and went on to describe his reasoning:
 
When you look at the Pope's mental architecture (I've read a great deal of his writing over the last two decades) you do see that strong internal repression does make sense of his life and beliefs. At times, it seems to me, his gayness is almost wince-inducing. The prissy fastidiousness, the effeminate voice, the fixation on liturgy and ritual, and the over-the-top clothing accessories are one thing. But what resonates with me the most is a theology that seems crafted from solitary introspection into a perfect, abstract unity of belief. It is so perfect it reflects a life of withdrawal from the world of human relationship, rather than an interaction with it. Of course, this kind of work is not inherently homosexual; but I have known so many repressed gay men who can only live without severe pain in the world if they create a perfect abstraction of what it is, and what their role is in it.
 
Sullivan isn't exactly alone in his suspicions. He points towards a book by Angelo Quattrocchi (playfully titled "The Pope is Not Gay") that he felt reached similar conclusions. In addition, former Benedictine monk-priest and author Richard Sipe claims to have spoken to a number of Roman clerics and members of the Roman press corps who were "convinced" that Benedict XVI was gay.
 
Of course, it doesn't help the rumors that Ganswein has become something of a star in his own right. He's been dubbed the "The George Clooney of the Vatican,” and appeared on the cover of the Italian Vanity Fair under the headline “It’s no sin to be good looking.” Donatella Versace has even dedicated a menswear collection to him.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 28, 2013, 02:30:59 am
The pope and his boy toy, secretary Archbishop Georg Ganswein, "the George Clooney of the Vatican"
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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 28, 2013, 11:44:57 am
INFALLIBLE NO MORE: Benedict vows obedience to next pope...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21612229

Flies to papal retreat in helicopter...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-02-28-11-16-44


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 02, 2013, 11:19:14 am
http://news.yahoo.com/posters-promoting-african-pope-appear-rome-081219758.html

3/2/13
Posters promoting African pope appear in Rome

ROME (Reuters) - Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana is not "running" for pope but he clearly has supporters who think enough of him that they have plastered posters with his picture around Rome.
 
"Vote Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson at the conclave!," was written in bold on posters above a photograph of the cardinal, a favourite among bookmakers to succeed Benedict, who on Thursday became the first pope in six centuries to resign.
 
The posters were plastered over banners that had been used for candidates in Italian elections earlier this week.
 
Unlike the Italian parliamentary election, candidates for the papacy cannot launch public campaigns, suggesting the poster came from Turkson fans or maybe even pranksters.
 
Cardinals will meet in a closed-door conclave in the Sistine Chapel in about 10 days, a gathering where their choice is said to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and not earthly politics.
 
Turkson would be the first non-European to lead the Catholic Church in more than a millennium if he elected.
 
But an old Roman saying warns about campaigning, even indiscreetly, to become pope or even trying to predict the outcome of conclaves.
 
It goes: "He who enters a conclave as pope, exits as a cardinal".


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on March 02, 2013, 09:12:37 pm
Just to add to the conspiracy, i have not watched this yet but think it is interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4C7bnRQt7g&feature=youtube

The title says: "In my opinion the final pope in already in power . Tarcisio Peter Bertone from rome has filled the conclave with Cardinals from Italy . Tarcisio is also an anagram for Iscariot , as in Judas Iscariot !"


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 03, 2013, 08:00:40 am
New pope 'to pledge to serve until death'

CARDINALS plan to ask the next pope to pledge in his inaugural address that he will serve until his death, unlike Benedict XVI, whose resignation, they believe, has destabilised the Catholic Church.

Doubts have emerged about the impact of Benedict's decision as the cardinals begin a series of meetings, known as general congregations, to discuss the church's future.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/new-pope-to-pledge-to-serve-until-death/story-fnb64oi6-1226589454799


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 03, 2013, 02:24:40 pm
Very interesting video - yeah, either way, they probably already have the new Pope groomed and ready many moons ago, alot like the elections here where they pre-determine the leaders way in advance.

Just to add to the conspiracy, i have not watched this yet but think it is interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4C7bnRQt7g&feature=youtube

The title says: "In my opinion the final pope in already in power . Tarcisio Peter Bertone from rome has filled the conclave with Cardinals from Italy . Tarcisio is also an anagram for Iscariot , as in Judas Iscariot !"


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 03, 2013, 05:57:26 pm
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/no-pope-blessing-cardinals-gather-elect-pontiff-143308663.html

3/3/13
Papal vote preparations start in earnest at Vatican

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Preparations for electing Roman Catholicism's new leader begin in earnest on Monday as the College of Cardinals opens daily talks to sketch an identikit for the next pope and ponder who among them might fit it.
 
The idea is to have the new pope elected during next week and officially installed several days later so he can preside over the Holy Week ceremonies starting with Palm Sunday on March 24 and culminating in Easter the following Sunday.
 
The general congregations, closed-door meetings in the interregnum between a papacy and the conclave to choose the next one, will hold morning and afternoon sessions in an apparent effort to discuss as much as possible in a short time.
 
The list of challenges facing the crisis-hit Church could take weeks to debate, but the Vatican seems keen to have only a week of talks so the 115 cardinal electors -- those under 80 -- can enter the Sistine Chapel for the conclave next week.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 04, 2013, 06:21:34 am
Benedict to Be ‘Pope Emeritus’ — a Title Dismissed by John Paul

The Vatican has announced Pope Benedict will take the title of Pope Emeritus when he resigns Thursday — but the designation appears to be in conflict with his predecessor Pope John Paul’s beliefs.

In his final days, an ailing John Paul thought of resigning himself, but then dismissed the idea, CatholicOnline.com reports.

According to the Web site, John Paul told his doctor: “You must heal me, and I must heal — because there is no place in the church for a Pope Emeritus.’’

As Pope Emeritus, Benedict will retain his name Benedict XVI and live in a convent inside the Vatican, dressing in a simple white cassock, The New York Times reports. He will no longer wear the red papal shoes that represent the blood of martyrs, Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombradi said.

With Benedict’s new designation in place, Vatican leaders will meet next week to decide a date for the Papal Conclave to elect his successor.

The closed-door meetings are expected to be politically-charged following two bombshell scandals.

They include a rumored gay-sex scandal within the church’s Rome headquarters and the resignation of Britain's Cardinal Keith O'Brien over alleged “inappropriate behavior’’ with other priests.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/benedict-pope-emeritus-paul/2013/02/26/id/492080



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 04, 2013, 10:28:23 am
Cardinals begin pre-conclave meetings amid scandal

Cardinals from around the world gathered Monday inside the Vatican for their first round of meetings before the conclave to elect the next pope, amid scandals inside and out of the Vatican and the continued reverberations of Benedict XVI's decision to retire.

The Vatican said 103 of the 115 electors had arrived, while the other dozen are en route. The dean of the College of Cardinals has said a date for the conclave won't be set until all cardinals have arrived.

Among the first orders of business was the oath of secrecy each cardinal made, pledging to maintain "rigorous secrecy with regard to all matters in any way related to the election of the Roman Pontiff."

The college of cardinals also agreed to send Benedict XVI a message on behalf of the group - the text was being worked on."

The core agenda item is to set the date for the conclave and set in place procedures to prepare for it, including closing the Sistine Chapel to visitors and getting the Vatican hotel cleared out and de-bugged, lest anyone try to listen in on the secret conversations of the cardinals.

The first day of discussion was again rocked by revelations of scandal, with Scottish Cardinal Keith O'Brien admitting that he had engaged in sexual misconduct not befitting a priest, archbishop or cardinal.

O'Brien last week resigned as archbishop of St. Andrews and Edinburgh and said he wouldn't participate in the conclave after four men came forward with allegations that he had acted inappropriately with them - the first time a cardinal has stayed away from a conclave because of personal scandal.

Separately, the Vatican is still reeling from the fallout of the scandal over leaked papal documents, and the investigation by three cardinals into who was behind it.

Italian news reports have been rife with unsourced reports about the contents of the cardinals' dossier. Even if the reports are false, as the Vatican maintains, the leaks themselves confirmed a fairly high level of dysfunction within the Vatican bureaucracy, with intrigues, turf battles and allegations of corruption, nepotism and cronyism at the highest levels of the church hierarchy.

In one of his last audiences before resigning, Benedict met with the three cardinals who prepared the report and decided that their dossier would remain secret. But he gave them the go-ahead to answer cardinals' questions about its contents.

Another topic facing the cardinals is the reason they're here in the first place: Benedict's resignation and its implications. His decision to end 600 years of tradition and retire rather than stay on the job until death has completely altered the concept of the papacy, and cardinals haven't shied from weighing in about the implications for the next pope.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130304/DA4Q9A201.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 04, 2013, 10:30:34 am
Yeah, looks like they'll have their next Pope selected before their "holy week" at the end of the month.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 04, 2013, 12:02:32 pm
Bookmakers Say It’s Italy vs. Africa for Next Pope!

In the grand scheme of things it’s anybody’s guess, but a leading oddsmaker says three top Catholic leaders — one from Africa and two from Italy — have the best chances of becoming the next Pope.

As of Friday, Ireland’s Paddy Power has Ghana’s Cardinal Peter Turkson the favorite to succeed Pope Benedict with odds of 5-2 — put $2 on and win $5 if he is elected.

Archbishop of Milan, Cardinal Angelo Scola, is second favorite at 11-4, followed by another Italian Cardinal, Tarcisio Bertone.

Paddy Power’s leading contenders for the papacy are:

5-2 Cardinal Peter Turkson, 64, (Ghana) President, Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
11-4 Cardinal Angelo Scola, 71, (Italy) Archbishop of Milan.
4-1 Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, 78, (Italy) Vatican Secretary of State.
8-1 Cardinal Marc Ouellet, 68, (Canada) Prefect for the Congregation for Bishops.
10-1 Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, 70, (Italy) Archbishop of Genoa.
10-1 Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, 70, (Italy) President, Pontifical Council for Culture.
14-1 Cardinal Peter Erdo, 60, (Hungary) Archbishop of Esztergom-Budapest.
16-1 Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, 68, (Austria) Archbishop of Vienna.
16-1 Cardinal Leonardo Sandri, 69, (Argentina) Prefect of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches.
16-1 Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle, 55, (Philippines) Archbishop of Manila.
25-1 Cardinal Odilo Scherer, 63, (Brazil) Archbishop of São Paulo.
25-1 Cardinal Francis Arinze, 80, (Nigeria) Cardinal-Bishop of Velletri-Segni.
25-1 Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, 70, (Honduras) Archbishop of Tegucigalpa.
25-1 Cardinal Sean O’Malley, 68, (United States) Archbishop of Boston.
33-1 Cardinal Timothy Dolan, 63, (United States) Archbishop of New York.
40-1 Cardinal Mauro Piacenza, 68, (Italy) Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy.
40-1 Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, 76, (Argentina) Archbishop of Buenos Aires.
40-1 Cardinal Reinhard Marx, 59, (Germany) Archbishop of Munich and Freising.

Paddy Power spokesman Rory Scott told USA Today, “We are expecting this Pope-betting to be the biggest round of nonsporting betting in Paddy Power history — it’s a big market.

“It’s going to pick up as we head into conclave and we think it will reach about $7 million (U.S. dollars).”


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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 06, 2013, 09:15:02 am
Just to add to the conspiracy, i have not watched this yet but think it is interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4C7bnRQt7g&feature=youtube

The title says: "In my opinion the final pope in already in power . Tarcisio Peter Bertone from rome has filled the conclave with Cardinals from Italy . Tarcisio is also an anagram for Iscariot , as in Judas Iscariot !"

FINAL POPE ALREADY RUNNING VATICAN
Jerome Corsi
Did Pope Benedict XVI line up his successor and then resign to fulfill a 900-year-old prophecy that the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church would be history’s “final pope?”

The idea was posed by Tom Horn, co-author of the book “Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope is Here.”
Horn and his co-author, Cris Putnam, accurately predicted Benedict would become the first pope in nearly 600 years to resign.
Horn believes the last pope, called “Petrus Romanus” in the prophecy by Irish Archbishop St. Malachy, could be the man who is set to take over interim leadership the moment Benedict resigns Feb. 28 at 8 p.m. local time, becoming the acting Vatican head of state.

The claim centers on Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro (Peter in English) Evasio Bertone, born in Romano Canavese, Piedmont, the current secretary of state for the Vatican, who Pope Benedict XVI appointed Camerlengo, or Chamberlain, of the Holy Roman Church April 4, 2007.

In the period known as “sede vacante,” when there is no sitting pope, Bertone will be called upon as Camerlengo to serve as the head of the Roman Catholic Church.
He will be in charge until the College of Cardinals attending the upcoming Papal Conclave in the Sistine Chapel select a new pope.

Benedict XVI has made decisions that indicate Bertone could be, or at least once was, his choice for successor.
Working alongside Bertone, Benedict appeared to be “stacking the deck” in Bertone’s favor Jan. 6, 2012, when he named 22 new cardinals. Most are Europeans, primarily Italians, already holding key Vatican positions.
As a result, Europeans currently number over half of all cardinal-electors, 67 out of 125. Nearly a quarter of all voters in the conclave will be Italian.

“When he appointed these new cardinals,” Horn said, “Benedict seemed to put his definitive stamp on an Italian successor, stacking the College of Cardinals, those who could be called upon to give Bertone the so-called apostolic chair of St. Peter.”

Horn said the idea was not Benedict’s alone.
Most Vatican experts attribute the large number of Italian appointments to the influence of Bertone, he said.
Benedict may have resigned in part because he wanted to have a hand, even if indirect, in influencing the selection of his successor.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/final-pope-already-running-vatican


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 06, 2013, 10:48:15 am
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-papal-contender-suggests-catholic-church-needs-evangelization-025947363.html

3/6/13
Canadian papal contender suggests Catholic church needs 'new evangelization'

VATICAN CITY - The Canadian cardinal who could become the next pope says the Catholic church has to take on a "new evangelization" to help those who do not believe in God.
 
"This is a great drama of our times, you know to live without God," said Marc Cardinal Ouellet in an interview with CBC Television.
 
"They need the Creator, they need this relationship. It is vital, you know, for family life, for social life, for fraternity, for peace."
 
Ouellet says the church has to respond to the needs of people who aren't religious.
 
When asked whether he believed the church needed to forge ahead on social issues such as its positions on gay marriage and abortion, the 68-year-old Quebecer was evasive, saying questions on those areas were "secondary."
 
Ouellet did share his views on the role of women in the church, however, saying "there is much more to do."
 
While he would not support the ordaining of women, Ouellet said many women were already working in key positions in the church.
 
"This is open to further development, but we have to go you know with the time. And it is not easy to move forward," he said in what was the second instalment of a two-part interview.
 
Ouellet leads the powerful Congregation for Bishops in the Vatican, which vets bishop nominations worldwide, and has worked in Latin America and in Rome.
 
The former Archbishop of Quebec City is often regarded as a conservative figure and has drawn criticism in the past with his opinions on social issues.
 
He came under fire in Quebec for anti-abortion remarks he made in 2010 when he said abortion was unjustifiable, even in cases of ****. His words drew angry reactions from women's rights activists and a number of politicians.
 
He has also spoken out against gay marriage, calling it "a big crisis."
 
Ouellet is considered one of the front-runners to replace the retired Pope Benedict, who stepped down last week citing a lack of strength to do the job.
 
Pre-conclave meetings are currently underway at the Vatican. An official date has yet to be set for the conclave during which a new pope will be elected.
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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 08, 2013, 03:17:40 pm
Cardinals set Tuesday as start date for conclave

Cardinals have set Tuesday as the start date for the conclave to elect the next pope, a milestone in this unusual papal transition and an indication that even without an obvious front-runner, the cardinals have a fairly good idea of who best among them can lead the Catholic Church and tackle its many problems.

The conclave date was set on Friday afternoon during a vote by the College of Cardinals who have been meeting all week to discuss the church's problems and priorities and the qualities a new pope must possess.

Tuesday will begin with a morning Mass in St. Peter's Basilica, followed by a solemn procession into the Sistine Chapel and the first round of secret balloting in the afternoon.

Only one vote is held the first afternoon. If black smoke is sent snaking out of the chapel chimney to indicate there is no immediate victor, the cardinals will retire for the day. They will return Wednesday for two rounds of balloting in the morning, two rounds in the afternoon until a pope has been chosen.

In the past 100 years, no conclave has lasted longer than five days.

That said, there doesn't appear to be a front-runner in this election for a successor to the retired Benedict XVI, and the past week of deliberations has exposed sharp divisions among cardinals about some of the pressing problems facing the church, including of governance within the Holy See itself.

U.S. Cardinal Timothy Dolan, considered a papal contender, said in a blog post Friday that most of the discussions in the closed-door meetings covered preaching and teaching the Catholic faith, tending to Catholic schools and hospitals, protecting families and the unborn, supporting priests "and getting more of them!"

"Those are the 'big issues,'" he wrote. "You may find that hard to believe, since the 'word on the street' is that all we talk about is corruption in the Vatican, sexual abuse, money. Do these topics come up? Yes! Do they dominate? No!"

Early in the week, the Americans had been pressing for more time to get to the bottom of the level of dysfunction and corruption in the Holy See's governance that was exposed by the leaks of papal documents last year. But by Thursday afternoon, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles tweeted that the discussions were "reaching a conclusion" and that a mood of "excitement" was taking hold.

Vatican-based cardinals had been angling for a speedy end to the discussions, perhaps to limit the amount of dirty laundry being aired.

A Tuesday start date could be read as something of a compromise. Monday had been seen as an obvious choice to start the conclave to ensure a pope would be elected and installed by Sunday, March 17, the last Sunday before Holy Week begins.

American and some German cardinals had argued that the time for discernment should come during the pre-conclave meetings, when there is more time for discussion and information-gathering.

Once the conclave begins, there is actually very little time for discussion since the proceedings are conducted in an atmosphere of silent prayer. The Americans had argued for more consultation time so the conclave itself doesn't drag on.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the pre-conclave meetings had served to give cardinals a chance to discuss the "profile, characteristics, qualities and talents" a future pope must have.

"Obviously the cardinals must arrive at this moment with all the information that is useful to make a judgment on such an important issue," he said. "The preparation is absolutely fundamental."

According to Vatican analysts and even some cardinals themselves, the list of papabili, or those considered to have the stuff to be pope, remains relatively unchanged from when Benedict XVI first announced he would resign Feb. 28, kick-starting the papal transition. But some Italian media have speculated that with governance such a key issue in this conclave, the cardinals might also be considering an informal pope-secretary of state "ticket."

The Vatican secretary of state is primarily responsible for running the Holy See, but it's not an elected job like the pope. It's a papal appointment, and will be a very closely watched papal appointment this time around given the stakes.

Also Friday, the cardinals formally agreed to exempt two of their voting-age colleagues from the conclave who in past weeks had signaled they wouldn't come: Cardinal Julius Darmaatjadja, emeritus archbishop of Jakarta, who is ill, and Scottish Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who resigned last week after admitting to inappropriate sexual misconduct.

That formality brings the number of cardinal electors to 115; two thirds of which -- or 77 votes -- is required for victory. Benedict in 2007 changed the conclave rules to keep the two-thirds requirement throughout the voting process after Pope John Paul II decreed that after about 12 days of inconclusive balloting the threshold could switch to a simple majority.

By reverting back to the traditional two-thirds requirement, Benedict was apparently aiming to ensure a consensus candidate emerges quickly and ruling out the possibility that cardinals might hold out until the simple majority kicks in to push through their candidate. His decision might prove prescient, given the apparent lack of a front-runner in this conclave.

Lombardi said a few items of business remain outstanding, including drawing lots for rooms at the Vatican's Santa Marta hotel, where the cardinals will be sequestered once the conclave begins.

On Friday, he showed a video of the room in which the new pope will spend his first night as pontiff; it features a bed with a heavy, dark wood headboard featuring a carved image of Christ's face. There is also a sitting area and a study.

The pope is expected to stay there for a few weeks even after the election, since the papal apartment in the Apostolic Palace must be renovated. The apartment was sealed Feb. 28, just after Benedict resigned, and cannot be reopened until the new pope formally takes possession of it.

Lombardi explained that after an eight-year papacy, certain plumbing and maintenance work that had been put off must be carried out -- work that cannot begin, however, until the seal on the doors is broken.

http://wtop.com/220/3244222/Vatican-conclave-likely-to-start-early-next-week


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on March 10, 2013, 09:54:11 am
http://www.news.va/en/news/chimney-installed-on-roof-of-sistine-chapel-today

CHIMNEY INSTALLED ON ROOF OF SISTINE CHAPEL TODAY

Vatican City, 9 March 2013 (VIS) – The chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel, which will emit the smoke to indicating the election (white smoke) or non-election (black smoke) of a pope, was installed this morning, three days before the Conclave is scheduled to begin. That, however, is not the only change taking place in the chapel. Vatican Television is recording the preparations and those images are then distributed to all media outlets that request it for broadcasting around the world.

Work began on Tuesday, 5 March, at 1:00pm when restorers, electricians, mechanics, carpenters, seamstresses, assemblers, electronic technicians and other labourers from various areas of competence suddenly replaced the hundreds of tourists who visit the Sistine Chapel every day. “The Chapel is closed to the public. We are preparing for the Conclave,” employees respond to the questions asked by perplexed visitors who are trying to finish their tour of the Vatican Museums with a glimpse of Michelangelo's “Creation of Adam”.

Journalists are already in the know. The Director of the Holy See Press Office, Fr. Federico Lombardi, S.J., has been holding daily press conferences, giving a general overview of the proceedings of the General Congregations and explaining the images of the preparations that are being carried out around Vatican City. From within the Sistine Chapel we see scaffolding around the stoves that will burn the ballots to erect the stove pipe that releases the smoke from the roof of the chapel, shorter tubing for the scaffolding that will elevate the floor and create a uniform area to work on, lengths of cloth and the seamstresses sowing them together to create table covers...

On Wednesday, 6 March, for example, Vatican Television provided raw video of workers installing a large platform for the chimney and flooring sheets over the original mosaic pavement, both to protect the mosaics and to make it easier to build the elevated floor above it, which will provide the cardinals with an even expanse to walk and work upon.

Around the altar, 115 cherry wood chairs have been put in place, each engraved with the name of the cardinal who will occupy it, with 12 wooden tables covered in beige and bordeaux fabric where the cardinals will prepare their ballots. They will cast their votes in front of Michelangelo's fresco of “The Last Judgment” on the wall of the altar.

After the chimney is installed it will be submitted to a series of tests using chemicals to emit a yellow smoke so as not to confuse the increased number of passers-by in St. Peter's Square. The chimney is just the last piece of the mechanism that will produce the smoke. The two iron stoves it is attached to were installed yesterday. The first stove, cast in 1938, has the dates of the five Conclaves it has been used in etched upon it—from the one electing Pius XII in 1939 until the latest, in 2005, when Cardinal Ratzinger became Benedict XVI.

This older oven is used to burn the balloting papers. The modern one, equipped with an electronic device, will add the chemicals to produce the black or white smoke indicating the result of the voting until the election occurs. There are two voting sessions planned for each morning and each afternoon that the Conclave continues. At the moment, the chimney is at the centre of the media's curiosity. Next Tuesday afternoon it will hold the attention of millions around the world.

Besides the Cardinal electors, the only others who will be present in the Sistine Chapel are the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations and Cardinal Prospero Grech, O.S.A., who will preach the second meditation provided for in No. 13 of the Apostolic Constitution “Universi Dominici Gregis” to the Cardinal electors.

Feb. 22, 2013 The See of Rome is Vacant.
Feb. 11, 2013 The Final Days of Benedict XVI's Pontificate

SPIRITUAL REFLECTION
From the book addressed to Autolycus by Saint Theophilus of Antioch, bishop (PG 6, 1026-1027. 1035)
If you say, “Show me your God,” I will say to you, “Show me what kind of person you are, and I will show you my God.” Show me then whether the eyes of your mind can see, and the ears of your heart hear. It is like this. Those who can see with the eyes of their bodies are aware of what is happening in this life on earth. They get to know things that are different from each other. They distinguish light and darkness, black and white, ugliness and beauty, elegance and inelegance, proportion and lack of proportion, excess and defect.
The same is true of the sounds we hear: high or low or pleasant. So it is with the ears of our heart and the eyes of our mind in their capacity to hear or see God. God is seen by those who have the capacity to see him, provided that they keep the eyes of their mind open. A person’s soul should be clean, like a mirror reflecting light. If there is rust on the mirror his face cannot be seen in it.
In the same way, no one who has sin within him can see God. But if you will you can be healed. Hand yourself over to the doctor, and he will open the eyes of your mind and heart. Who is to be the doctor? It is God! If you understand this, and live in purity and holiness and justice, you may see God.

MORE SPIRITUAL REFLECTIONS
1. Conclave to begin Tuesday March 12th 2. General congregations: Profile of future Pope emerging from sessions 3. Lombardi: 12 Cardinal electors yet to arrive as 1st Congregation concludes 4. General congregations: With all electors present still no date for Conclave 5. Conclave: A few dates with history 6. New urns for conclave unveiled 7. Where cardinals will stay during Conclave 8. General congregations: No rush to fix date for Conclave 9. Bolts, pipes and joists in front of th
Full Text: Note on financial reform from the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.

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Revelation 13:11-17 KJV
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 9:1-3 KJV
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on March 10, 2013, 10:14:17 am
http://www.news.va/en/news/cardinal-napier-the-new-pope-will-have-to-be-a-pas



Cardinal Napier: the new Pope will have to be a pastor who can reach out and touch peoples' lives


2013-03-08 Vatican Radio (Vatican Radio) Cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier, Archbishop of Durban in South Africa is in Rome to participate in the upcoming Conclave. Since arriving he has been part of the Cardinals’ General Congregations to prepare for the Conclave. Speaking to Vatican Radio’s Linda Bordoni just before joining a prayer service in St. Peter’s Basilica on Wednesday evening, Cardinal Napier spoke of his own feelings and emotions during this particular time in history, and of the feelings and hopes of the faithful in his own geographical area of concern… Listen to the interview… Cardinal Napier says that back home in South Africa the events taking place in the Vatican in these days are of great interest and concern. He himself is on twitter and says he continues to receive a lot of tweets about what is going on: “People all around sending their prayers, messages from bishops saying their people are praying for us, so I think there is a real sense –through the social networks – that there is the possibility of people being engaged in something that is taking place even at a remote distance”. Speaking of his own vision regarding the characteristics he would like to see in the new leader of the Catholic Church, Napier admits that he is “a bit biased because he picked up from Pope John Paul II so many of his characteristics, and how he translated them into a vision for the Church”. Napier mentions John Paul II’s theology of the body, which - he says - “at the time he was giving those talks they didn’t seem to making so much of an impact. But since then, that theology has really come out as how this is a wonderful way of reaffirming just how unique a creation a human person is, and because of that uniqueness humans need to be given that special reverence and respect”. So from John Paul II –Napier says – we have a lesson on the value of human life, the value of the human person. “But he also wanted that value to be heightened by the New Evangelization, and that was then picked up by Pope Benedict who gave it an even clearer definition. Napier says he remembers the day Benedict was elected and how he put on the table what was going to be his own vision for the church. Reconciliation - he points out - was one of the things and throughout his Pontificate he certainly went out of his way to bring reconciliation about in many sectors. And when he explained why he chose the name Benedict - says Cardinal Napier - he explained that St. Benedict was around at the time the Roman Empire had fallen apart and the Church was in disarray, and he too wanted to rebuild and renew the faith and the credibility of the Church. Looking back to both previous Pontiffs, Napier says the idea of the centrality of Christ was foremost. Benedict spoke of the encounter with Jesus. “That whole thing about prayer and the centrality of Christ – the new Pope will have to someone who is conscious of the foundation that are already there - and who is committed to building on those foundations – and building on existent foundations - Napier says - could be trickier than building new ones”. Therefore – says Cardinal Napier – “I think we will have to have a fairly lengthy Pontificate –so we will be looking at a younger person”. He says he believes the new Pope “will be from among us, so he will need to have heard from the different sectors of the Church - what the issues are, how the Church in those places is already trying to tackle those issues, and what role the Pope can play to influence them”. So far, Cardinal Napier says, in the General Congregations specific geographical issues have not been examined, but areas of concern have been raised. “We, the Africans, have met informally a couple of times and looked at the issues we would like to share with the Church in other parts of the world”. He says one of the concerns they have is that the Church has been very centered on Europe. Of course - he says - there is a close relationship with Europe which is normal, but “maybe now that Europe is in crisis and is concentrating on itself, it’s forgetting that there are answers to some of the issues and problems that can come from outside. And I think this is where our concern could be as Africans : what can we bring to the consciousness of the Church in Europe that maybe makes them more aware of what’s going on out there, but at the same time makes them look at alternative solutions to the issues”. As regards the widespread nihilism expressed by new generations in Europe, Napier says this is not at all the reality in Africa. He says in Africa “God has still got a very very important part in people’s lives”. In Africa, he says, you are reminded all the time of your own fallibility. So in a way our fallibility as human beings and our need for something that gives us stability is such that religion still has such a major part to play. Cardinal Napier is in Rome for his second Conclave. This time he says he knows what to expect along the way. So he feels more familiar with the proceedings. He notes that this time there is no mourning period to distract the Cardinals. This time he – says – "we were taken a little off guard. I didn’t expect Pope Benedict to resign just before Easter knowing how important Easter and especially Good Friday are for him. And also with the World Youth Day coming up". However he says, looking back he wasn’t so surprised at the resignation itself Right now – he says of the Cardinals – “we are here under a certain self-imposed pressure: we want to find out as much as we can, get as familiar with each other as we can, try to identify possible candidates, and at the same time we know the longer we spend doing that, the harder it will be to return home”. Cardinal Napier says the prayers of the faithful are so important at this moment. He says he is asking all to intensify those prayers. “One of the thoughts that came to me this morning was: every step that we are taking you can almost feel the prayers supporting us. I think that kind of spiritual union is very important also because in a way it is going to affect how we see thehttp://[b] new Pope – it has to be someone who is a pastor who is able to reach out and touch people’s lives”.[/b]


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 11, 2013, 10:09:37 am
http://news.yahoo.com/catholics-create-virtual-conclave-pope-164712622.html
3/9/13
Catholics create 'virtual conclave' for new pope

VATICAN CITY (AP) — A pastor in Ontario wondered about behind-the-scenes politicking ahead of the conclave to elect the next pope. He could have read news reports or listened to briefings by the Vatican spokesman. Instead, he asked a cardinal. Less than an hour later, the response arrived.
 
"What I see is a real desire to know, and so evaluate, the papabili against criteria of qualities demanded by situations," wrote Cardinal Wilfrid Napier of Durban, South Africa, using the term "papabili" for cardinals seen as papal contenders.
 
The exchange occurred on Twitter, one of many online interactions that have made this papal succession unlike any other for Roman Catholics and observers of the church. While the election starting Tuesday will remain strictly secret, social media is providing a direct link to the events surrounding the succession, creating a virtual conclave that involves lay people in everything from voting to prayer.
 
"I think it's fabulous for the church," said Brother Martin Browne, a Benedictine monk in County Limerick, Ireland, who is following Vatican analysts and reporters on Twitter instead of watching general news coverage. "I think more people understand what's going on now because there's greater access to good information."
 
No one will be posting updates from inside the Sistine Chapel. The Vatican will activate electronic jamming devices so no one can listen in or report out. "You obviously can't have cardinals inside the conclave tweeting 'Uh-oh, trending right now: new young cardinal from wherever,'" said Greg Burke, a Vatican communications adviser.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 11, 2013, 10:30:34 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57573717/dark-financial-clouds-hang-over-vatican/
3/11/13
Dark financial clouds hang over Vatican

CBS News) ROME - All roads lead to Rome, and the road to the papacy starts here.

First thing tomorrow, the cardinals who will choose the next pope will gather at St. Peter's Basilica to celebrate mass together.

Then, in the afternoon, they will march to the Sistine Chapel, lock the door and begin the conclave, where they will begin casting their votes for the new spiritual leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics, including more than 66 million in the United States.

Today, the cardinals held the last in a series of private consultations about the kind of leader the church needs.

As they did, red velvet was hung on the doors leading to the central balcony of St. Peter's. It is on that balcony that the new pope will be introduced to the world.

The Vatican is more than the world's largest religious institution -- it's a business. It is also a business in trouble. Behind great ecclesiastical pageants, like former Pope Benedict's farewell, there are back-room financial scandals at Vatican Inc.

In an old stone tower, in Vatican City, is the Vatican Bank.

The church's various departments, its priests and employees keep accounts here; secret accounts, hidden from the prying eyes international regulators. An Italian court investigating the bank found documents showing some accounts had been used for money-laundering and other illegal -- and for the church, highly embarrassing -- activities.

Vatican watchers, like Marco Politi, have studied the court documents that verified the bank's transactions have not always been kosher.

"There was money of the mafia who was recycled through the channels of the Vatican Bank, and also bribe money to political parties in Italy went through the Vatican Bank," Politi said.

With dark financial clouds hanging over the Vatican, the European Union insisted the bank open its accounts to public scrutiny. When it was too slow, tourists felt the pinch. When European bankers suspended the Vatican's credit card facilities, visitors couldn't use plastic to buy Sistine Chapel tickets.


Thirty million dollars of Vatican money in Italian banks was seized and only released when the Church promised to reform.


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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 12, 2013, 03:54:00 am
That kind of thing seems to match up with the merchants of the world being at odds with the Great Wh0re.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh0re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." Revelations 17:16 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 12, 2013, 06:00:33 am
Conclave To Elect Final Pope Starts Tues

The College of Cardinals' eighth General Congregation has decided that the Conclave for the election of the new Pope will begin on 12 March 2013. This is according to a communiqué issued by the Holy See Press Office. The Mass "Pro Eligendo Pontefice" will be celebrated in St. Peter's Basilica in the morning andf in the afternoon cardinals will begin the Conclave. The 115 cardinal electors are ready to vote for the new Pope. The average age of the cardinals is 72, most of them were appointed by Benedict XVI and over half of them are European. There are 28 Italian cardinal electors making them the largest group but all five continents are represented. Italy is the most represented country in the Conclave, with 28 cardinals. It is followed by the United States, which has 11 cardinal electors and Germany with 6. Spain and Brazil will have five cardinals...
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/conclave-22998/


Over 20 Moles Inside Vatican Says La Repubblica Interview

An anonymous report of a group of over 20 moles planning to leak more information from inside the Vatican was circulating in Italian media on Thursday. "There are many, more than 20 people, all tied to the Holy See. We're made up of men and women, laypeople and prelates," an anonymous, self-proclaimed former mole said, according to an interview in Italian daily La Repubblica. Anonymous and unsourced reports from alleged insiders at the Vatican have been surfacing in Italian media in the weeks following the announcement of Benedict XVI's resignation on February 11. Many outlets have speculated that one motive for Benedict's abdication was the so-called Vatileaks case last year, when the pope's butler was arrested and...
http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2013/03/07/-20-moles-inside-Vatican-says-Repubblica-interview_8360174.html


The End Begins: Second Vatican State To Be Established In Jerusalem

People are not aware that the planning of a the seat of the last antichrist has reached its final stages. This work got a booster after the implementation of the Oslo “peace accord”. The final push for the end game, started with the formation of The Council of the Religious Institutions of the Holy Land in 2005. This council has Muslims, Jews, Catholics and claimed to be “Christians” in its governing body. When you read their statement of faith, you are introduced to the final One World Religion. They try to tell us that all faiths leads to the same god. Now they plan the arrival of their leader.... collected from the governance of the present Papal system. The final plan will be presented to the government of Israel as an offer, they simply “have to” accept. The new statehood in Eastern Jerusalem will have a “Chief administrator” who govern a “special regime”. His powers will be similar to the Pope of Rome.

http://ivarfjeld.com/2012/02/18/second-vatican-state-to-be-established-in-jerusalem/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 12, 2013, 10:57:38 am
WHITE SMOKE OR BLACK SMOKE?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21750661

A chapel vote, then a papal vote...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_CONCLAVE_SCHEDULE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-12-06-11-16

Cardinals swear oath of secrecy...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_OATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-12-06-02-30

The 20 men who could be Pope...
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/12/17270315-from-rome-to-africa-meet-the-20-men-who-could-be-pope?lite

Anti-mafia cops raid diocese...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/12/cardinals-overcome-divisions-conclave-pope


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 12, 2013, 11:47:39 am
So this Oslo "peace accord" from years ago could be this convenant that the AC confirms?

No wonder why it's been hanging out for so long... :-\


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 12, 2013, 01:51:20 pm
BLACK SMOKE, NO POPE...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21750661

LIVE VIDEO...
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/live-video-two/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 12, 2013, 03:22:41 pm
Rick Warren fasts and prays for Rome conclave

This morning Saddleback’s pastor Rick Warren asked his Twitter fans to follow him as he fasts and prays for the cardinals who will select the new pope.

(http://standupforthetruth.com/files/2013/03/RWTWEET.jpg)

Will he pray for the truth of God’s breathed-out Word to be proclaimed to Catholics everywhere? Will he ask God to convict these leaders to repent of false teaching and ask forgiveness for pointing these sheep away from the Bible and toward Mary as a co-redeemer with Jesus?

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Certainly God is in control and knows who the next pope will be. He even knows how this pope will influence and perhaps orchestrate the events that God will use to reveal Himself in His coming as He promised. Time is growing shorter, and we have a huge opportunity to reach the lost with the message of repentance and forgiveness, and proclaim Christ crucified for our sins once and for all.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 12, 2013, 05:51:06 pm
well, we now know for sure dont we. no more hiding or facades.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on March 12, 2013, 11:45:13 pm
well, we now know for sure dont we. no more hiding or facades.

it is official!

How can these Cardinals know God's Will if they aren't even saved? ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 03:48:55 am
Pope Conclave 2013: Anti-Paedophile Bishop Blames Vatican Conspiracies For Benedict’s Resignation

An influential Catholic bishop, who fought paedophilia and sex abuse in the Church, has given new strength to claims that Pope Benedict XVI resigned over power struggles and infights in Vatican. Monsignor Charles Scicluna, 53, said Benedict stepped down to make way for a stronger pope, able to get a grip of Vatican power struggles. Scicluna told Il Correire della Sera: "He [Benedict] wanted to leave room for a person able to take the reins of the situation. This is a message cardinals [voting to elect a new pontiff] can't neglect." Scicluna was appointed promoter of justice in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office tasked with overseeing Church's integrity, and to asked in 2002 by then cardonal Joseph Ratzinger to investigate claims of sex abuse by clergymen.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/444700/20130311/vatican-pope-conclave-benedict-scicluna.htm

Popes & Demons: Mysterious Vatican Bank Poses Problem For New Pontiff

As the world waits for the Vatican’s conclave to select a new pope to lead 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, and the church’s sex abuse scandals dominate discourse on the incoming pontiff’s priorities, another decidedly worldly issue is also poised to take an immediate toll on the new Holy Father: money. The public and private woes of the Vatican bank, long shrouded in secrets and whispers, might well prove to be just as challenging, if not as draining, as the lurid, faith-shaking damage of the clergy abuse scandal. With a two-year probe by Italian authorities into money laundering, poor transparency, inadequate adherence to standards for guarding against criminal and terrorist financing, and questions over sudden changes in its leadership, the bank represents another crisis of morals, legalities and perception. The importance of the Vatican bank in Pope Benedict XVI’s grand vision can be assumed from the urgency it held with the outgoing pontiff: among the last official acts before his shock retirement was overhauling...
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/08/vatican-bank/?utm

Petrus Romanus Cardinal Electors Want Full "Vatileaks" Disclosure

It is known throughout the Vatican as the Relatio (Narration). It is contained in two stiff, unmarked red folders and runs to around 300 pages. Lying in a safe in the papal apartments of the Apostolic Palace overlooking St Peter's Square, it will be at the forefront of the minds of the 115 cardinals who on Tuesday are to file into the Sistine chapel to start the conclave that elects the next pope. In the Relatio are the findings of three cardinal-detectives, appointed last year by ex-pope Benedict XVI to investigate the leaking of documents from his study. The cardinals, headed by a Spanish member of the Opus Dei fellowship, Cardinal Julián Herranz, discovered the main source of the leaks – the pope's butler, Paolo Gabriele. But they found a great deal else – and some of it is reportedly extremely compromising. According to one unconfirmed report, they stumbled on a gay sex ring in the Vatican, some of whose members had...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/10/new-pope-curia-secret-report-cardinals

Before Smoke Rises At Vatican, It’s Romans Versus The Reformers

With all of the uproar over Vatican scandals, the Romans are aware that they may fail if they back one of their own, and so they are said to be coalescing behind the Brazilian, Cardinal Odilo Pedro Scherer, the archbishop of São Paulo. Cardinal Scherer is of German heritage, but his selection would give the Roman Catholic Church its first pope from Latin America. The region is home to about 40 percent of the world’s Catholics, and the church is staving off challenges there both from surging evangelical churches and a drift toward secularism. The reformers, led by the Americans and some influential Europeans, are reportedly uniting around the Italian, Cardinal Angelo Scola, the archbishop of Milan, a popular pastor and an erudite moral theologian. As an Italian, he is familiar with the culture that dominates the Vatican bureaucracy, but he is not a part of it or beholden to it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/world/europe/among-cardinals-deep-divisions-over-next-pope.html?hpw&_r=0

Signs In The Sky: Demon Comet Tom Horn Spoke Of To Appear Today Near Moon When Final Conclave Begins!

On March 12 and 13, the comet Pan-STARRS (Pan-demonium, all the demons) will appear close to the moon, possibly even silhouetting it according to SPACE.com stargazing columnist Geoff Gaherty, an astronomer with the Starry Night Education night sky software company. Then on April 3, the comet should be in the same part of the sky as the Andromeda Galaxy. Although the comet won't still be visible with the naked eye, stargazers with telescopes could still get a nice view of the comet and galaxy, Gaherty explained. Pan-STARRS has already put on a show for stargazers in the Southern Hemisphere. It is one of several comets in the night sky expected to dazzle observers this year. Last month, amateur astronomers managed to photograph Pan-STARRS and another celestial wanderer — Comet Lemmon — at the same time to document rare photos of two comets together in the night sky...

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/03/08/naked-eye-comet-pan-starrs-at-its-brightest-this-weekend/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 13, 2013, 05:15:43 am
Now if the next pope decides he wants the public to meet somebody that can "help" the world...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 07:00:26 am
Black smoke as morning fails to bring new pope

Cardinals in secret conclave failed twice on Wednesday morning to elect a new pope, as black smoke over the Sistine Chapel showed ballots on the first full day of voting were inconclusive.

After an inconclusive first vote on Tuesday night, the 115 cardinal electors should hold another two ballots later on Wednesday after praying for inspiration from God for a choice that can lead the Roman Catholic Church out of crisis.

Having spent the night closeted in a nearby guesthouse, the cardinals attended Mass in the Pauline Chapel in the Vatican's Apostolic Palace and returned to the Renaissance splendor of the Sistine Chapel to hold the two morning ballots.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/us-pope-succession-idUSBRE92808520130313


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2013, 10:54:52 am
Wouldn't surprise me if not only they have this last Pope already selected(and many moons ago), but will also wait until the last minute(this weekend) to make his election official. That way, they can get this dog and pony show going to where the public will chatter and buzz among themselves all week.

Can't say who will be "elected", but the most wicked one of the candidates will be the guy...

2Tim 3:13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Rev 22:10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 10:58:12 am
Wouldn't surprise me if not only they have this last Pope already selected(and many moons ago), but will also wait until the last minute(this weekend) to make his election official. That way, they can get this dog and pony show going to where the public will chatter and buzz among themselves all week.

Can't say who will be "elected", but the most wicked one of the candidates will be the guy...

2Tim 3:13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Rev 22:10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.



they were awaiting for the stars to align

Signs In The Sky: Demon Comet Tom Horn Spoke Of To Appear Today Near Moon When Final Conclave Begins!

On March 12 and 13, the comet Pan-STARRS (Pan-demonium, all the demons) will appear close to the moon, possibly even silhouetting it according to SPACE.com stargazing columnist Geoff Gaherty, an astronomer with the Starry Night Education night sky software company. Then on April 3, the comet should be in the same part of the sky as the Andromeda Galaxy. Although the comet won't still be visible with the naked eye, stargazers with telescopes could still get a nice view of the comet and galaxy, Gaherty explained. Pan-STARRS has already put on a show for stargazers in the Southern Hemisphere. It is one of several comets in the night sky expected to dazzle observers this year. Last month, amateur astronomers managed to photograph Pan-STARRS and another celestial wanderer — Comet Lemmon — at the same time to document rare photos of two comets together in the night sky...

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/03/08/naked-eye-comet-pan-starrs-at-its-brightest-this-weekend/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 01:14:12 pm
White smoke rises from Sistine Chapel, signaling Roman Catholic cardinals have elected new pope - @NBCNews


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 01:57:08 pm
Cardinals elect new pope on fifth ballot
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- To the delighted surprise of many, clouds of white smoke poured from the chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel March 13, indicating a pope had been elected on the conclave's fifth ballot.

The smoke signal went off at 7:05 p.m. The 115 cardinals gathered to elect the 266th successor of Peter had taken one vote late March 12 and two votes the next morning, resulting in clouds of black smoke.

The Vatican estimated it would be about an hour before Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, the top-ranking cardinal deacon, would come out onto the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica and confirm the election with the phrase "Habemus papam" (We have a pope).

The white smoke comes from burning the ballots and cardinals' notes and tallies along with special chemicals to produce abundant white smoke.

But the world did not know the identity of the new pope right away. While the bells of St. Peter's Basilica rang out the news of the election of the new pope, he was inside the Sistine Chapel changing into papal vestments and praying with the cardinals who just elected him.

He also was scheduled to stop on his way to the balcony to pray briefly before the Blessed Sacrament in the Pauline Chapel, where the cardinals began their solemn procession into the conclave March 12.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected on the fourth ballot at the conclave in 2005, taking the name Pope Benedict XVI. Unlike eight years ago, however, most people believe there was no clear favorite going into the conclave, which led to surprise that it was over so quickly.

Two stoves, leading to one smokestack, were installed in the Sistine Chapel for the conclave. The ballots and any notes or tallies individual cardinals made are burned in one stove. The other stove burns special chemical cartridges designed to create clouds of black or white smoke for a full seven minutes.

Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, told reporters the cartridges producing black smoke have potassium perchlorate, anthracene and sulphur. Those producing white smoke have potassium chlorate, lactose and a pine resin. To improve the draught, making sure the smoke goes up and out instead of filling the Sistine Chapel with smoke as occurred in 2005, the pipes leading to the roof are pre-heated with an electrical current.

Four Catholic students from Duquesne University's Rome campus were in the square awaiting the smoke March 13. One of them, Josh Suhey of Youngstown, Ohio, said, "We're here to see the pope and be part of history."

Asked about the cardinals using smoke to communicate with the outside world, another student, Concetta Staltari from Pittsburgh, said, "I think it's great, really awesome to stick to tradition." She said she couldn't wait to hear the bells ring, too, with a successful election.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1301147.htm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 02:08:39 pm
wow CBS live feed just cut out and went to some basketball game


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 02:15:36 pm
Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Argentina is elected pope - live video

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 02:22:10 pm
Pope Francis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio

Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ (born December 17, 1936) is the current pope of the Roman Catholic Church, elected on March 13, 2013 and taking the regnal name of Francis. Prior to his election, he served as an Argentine cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. He has served as the Archbishop of Buenos Aires since 1998. He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2001.




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 02:37:19 pm
When NPR was profiling potential popes in 2005, the year Benedict was chosen, it wrote that Bergoglio was:

"Trained as a chemist ... became a priest when he was 32 and an archbishop in 1998. Bergoglio is a Jesuit, which would make him an unusual and perhaps controversial choice for the papacy. His academic credentials abound: He pursued theological studies in Germany, has published three books and has served as grand chancellor of The Catholic University in Argentina. Bergoglio has been praised as being a 'good pastor' with a 'strong capacity for governance with unusual gifts of humility.' Indeed, the archbishop shuns a chauffeur-driven limousine, in favor of public transportation."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 02:38:08 pm
Francis I: 'Brothers and sisters, thanks for the welcome. Tomorrow I will pray that Mary safeguard Rome. Good night. Good rest' - @CatholicNewsSvc Story metadata:

Submitted March 13, 2013, 7:34 p.m. GMT from twitter.com/CatholicNewsSvc by editor


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 02:45:53 pm
Jorge Mario Bergoglio: 5 Facts About the First Latin American Pope

1) He is from Argentina.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the first Latin American pope, an Argentine cardinal born in Buenos Aires.

2) He represents change.

The front-runner for the position was Italy's Angelo Scola, a European cardinal, but this selection sends a message that the Church is ready to change and embrace Catholics in new countries, in the developing world.

3) He opposes abortion, but is more tolerant on gay issues.

He believes the Church should oppose abortion and is against homosexuality, but also things gay people should be treated with respect.

4) He preaches passion for the poor.

He is critical of corruption in Argentine, is seen as a man of the people, and often walks through the streets of Buenos Aires amongst the people.

5) He has a Jesuit background.

He is one of five children, born to Italian parents, and studied at a Jesuit school.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/29708/jorge-mario-bergoglio-5-facts-about-the-first-latin-american-pope


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 03:58:30 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSClAx1rsS84FA3Bvqu-INzFZsZE_ApGpooljX_JX_fzkcF_Y0Xtw)

they are all the same...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 13, 2013, 04:18:43 pm
Italian parents, eh? Go figure. Them pesky Jesuits! When was the last time they had a Jesuit pope?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 04:31:28 pm
Italian parents, eh? Go figure. Them pesky Jesuits! When was the last time they had a Jesuit pope?

he is the very first one. or so they say...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Lisa on March 13, 2013, 05:28:48 pm
Psalm 2


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2013, 07:50:04 pm
When NPR was profiling potential popes in 2005, the year Benedict was chosen, it wrote that Bergoglio was:

"Trained as a chemist ... became a priest when he was 32 and an archbishop in 1998. Bergoglio is a Jesuit, which would make him an unusual and perhaps controversial choice for the papacy. His academic credentials abound: He pursued theological studies in Germany, has published three books and has served as grand chancellor of The Catholic University in Argentina. Bergoglio has been praised as being a 'good pastor' with a 'strong capacity for governance with unusual gifts of humility.' Indeed, the archbishop shuns a chauffeur-driven limousine, in favor of public transportation."

It seems like Germany has played a big role for the Vatican for a very, very, very long time. N@zi Germany isn't the only example. Remember Tichendorff(sp) was this German Protestant "scholar" who helped do the Pope's bidding in helping to get out these corrupt Alexandrian texts like it was fact...among other examples. Guess we shouldn't be surprised that this new Pope did his theological "studies" in Germany.

1) He is from Argentina.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the first Latin American pope, an Argentine cardinal born in Buenos Aires.

Now this caught my attention b/c being the 1st Latin American Pope - anyone else find it NOT a coincidence that his appointment is around the same time the American government(backed by the NWO minions, that is) is pushing for immigration reform/NAU now? And to boot, all of the Churchianity denominations, including the corrupt Southern Baptist Convention is playing their part helping to push for this. It's as if the Vatican has a much bigger voice now in all of this.

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2) He represents change.

Now where have we heard THIS before? ::)

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3) He opposes abortion, but is more tolerant on gay issues.

He believes the Church should oppose abortion and is against homosexuality, but also things gay people should be treated with respect.

Come to think of it, don't recall any of the previous Popes being "more tolerant on gay issues"...whatever that means. Of course they play both sides of the issues, so all of this about "they oppose abortion and gay marriage" is all moot.

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4) He preaches passion for the poor social justice.

Fixed!

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5) He has a Jesuit background.

Yep - first the House of Congress appointed the first Jesuit priest as chaplain...guess we should have seen this one comin...and not listen to all that nonsense Horn and Quayle have been pushing for a long time.

Speaking of Horn and Quayle, don't be surprised to see them come out and yell, "Jesus's 2nd Coming won't happen until another 25 years b/c Petrus Romanos hasn't been appointed yet!". ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2013, 09:51:06 pm
Look at the time stamp on this article - TEN HOURS ago...uhm...wasn't it Noon Central then, and the new Pope's name wasn't announced then? Yeah, all of this is pre-determined way ahead of time, then they throw in this dog and pony show.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-reflects-spanish-speaking-catholics-importance-church-161606915--politics.html
3/13/13(10 hours ago)
New Pope Reflects Spanish-Speaking Catholics' Importance to the Church

The selection of Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina, a 76-year-old Jesuit who is an advocate for the poor, as the first pontiff from outside Europe should please many U.S. Catholics, almost 30 percent of whom are of Hispanic or Latino heritage.
 
Of seven news organizations surveyed about the selection process prior to the conclave, only two—the Associated Press and NBC—had listed the Jesuit cardinal from Buenos Aires as a possible pontiff.
 
A Reuters interactive that rated the possibilities did not even include the priest now called Francis I.

Early analysis of the selection of Bergoglio, born in Argentina to an Italian railroad worker and his wife, indicates he may be a compromise candidate who was runner-up to the cardinal who became Benedict in the last conclave, but Francis is certain to please many Spanish-speaking Catholics.
 
Argentina's last census placed its total population at 37 million, 70 percent of which are Catholic.
 
A Population Reference Bureau map, which shows its most recent numbers (from 2004) and projections through 2050, indicates that Latin America and the Caribbean as a collective region is 83 percent Catholic; South America has almost 455 million Catholics, or 42 percent of the world’s total number.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2013, 09:53:39 pm
Speaking of Horn and Quayle, don't be surprised to see them come out and yell, "Jesus's 2nd Coming won't happen until another 25 years b/c Petrus Romanos hasn't been appointed yet!". ::)

here is the prophecy:

Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End.

How do you know he isnt Peter the Roman? His parents both were Romans, he was just born in a different country. For all we know, while growing up he could have been called something that connects him to the name. Them again, as Pope he is in Peters place, and since the real Peter was NEVER in Rome, that would make the Pope Peter the Roman. I read earlier, i havent had time to look into it, but one of his names means earthen or rock, something like that.

If this s all one big plow by the Catholics, m sure they have some way to make this work.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2013, 09:57:52 pm
here is the prophecy:

Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End.

How do you know he isnt Peter the Roman? His parents both were Romans, he was just born in a different country. For all we know, while growing up he could have been called something that connects him to the name. Them again, as Pope he is in Peters place, and since the real Peter was NEVER in Rome, that would make the Pope Peter the Roman. I read earlier, i havent had time to look into it, but one of his names means earthen or rock, something like that.

If this s all one big plow by the Catholics, m sure they have some way to make this work.

Very interesting, never thought of that...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 14, 2013, 03:48:33 am
This is from Tom Horns site, an update...

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Petrus Romanus is here!
 
This is a rush script from Raiders News Update and we’ll be able to give you more information as we analyze this fantastic fulfillment of prophecy.
 
1. To start with, remember as we have told audiences repeatedly, the only thing needed to fulfill the Prophecy of the Popes would be a Cardinal of Italian descent and the new Pope Jorge Mario Bergoglio is the son of Italian parents (Roman).
 
2. Even more important is that he is the first Jesuit Pope ever (or at least for a very long time, we are researching this) and this is a VERY important aspect of the prediction in our book because we said the name "Petrus Romanus" from the prophecy "implies this pope will reaffirm the authority of the Roman Pontiff over the Church and will emphasize the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Faith and the Roman Catholic Church above all other religions and denominations, and its authority over all Christians and all peoples of the world" (Petrus Romanus pgs 437-438). Concerning the Jesuits, their order was organized "to stop Protestantism from spreading and to preserve communion with Rome and the
successor of Peter..."
 
Also note this from Wikipedia:
 
The 35th General Congregation of the Society of Jesus convened on 5 January 2008 and elected Fr. Adolfo Nicolás as the new Superior General on 19 January 2008. A month after, the Pope (Benedict) received members of the General Congregation and urged them to "to continue on the path of this mission in full fidelity to your original charism" and asked them to reflect so as "to rediscover the fullest meaning of your characteristic 'fourth vow' of obedience to the Successor of Peter." For this, he told them to "adhere totally to the Word of God and to the Magisterium's task of preserving the integral truth and unity of Catholic doctrine." This clear identity, according to the Pope, is important so that "many others may share in your ideals and join you effectively and enthusiastically." The Congregation responded with a formal declaration titled "With New Fervor and Dynamism, the Society of Jesus Responds to the Call of Benedict XVI", whereby they confirmed the Society's fidelity to the Pope.
 
As a Jesuit, Bergoglio also makes the perfect Pope to fulfill our second book's (Exo-Vaticana) Chardinian Jesuit predictions who have been secretly arguing in favor of a coming an alien savior (MUCH MORE ON THAT WITH THE BOOK RELEASE NEXT WEEK).
 
Also note this Pope was elected on 3-13-13 at 8:13 (phenomenally occult numerology) Vatican time while specifically on this date (13th) Pan-STARRS (Pan-demonium, all the demons) appeared close to the moon, even silhouetting it according to SPACE.com stargazing columnist Geoff Gaherty, an astronomer with the Starry Night Education night sky software company.
 
STAY TUNED... AND PRAY!

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 14, 2013, 05:41:37 am
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Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina, a 76-year-old Jesuit who is an advocate for the poor

All dictators are "advocates of the poor". It's how they get into power and scam the public into accepting all kinds of "social changes". Maybe he took a lesson or two from Chavez, another, however dead he is, "champion of the people". ::)

God knows I'd love to spend some time with the pope, one on one, with no thug handlers present. I realize I'm just one man, and God will take of things, but I'd sure love to "reprove, rebuke, and exhort" that reprobate for awhile.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 14, 2013, 11:09:52 am
http://www.timesofisrael.com/peres-invites-new-pope-to-pop-over-for-visit/
3/14/13
Peres invites new pope to pop over for visit

President says pontiff will be welcomed as ‘a man of inspiration who can add to the attempt to bring peace in a stormy area’


The white smoke had barely dispersed from over the Vatican Thursday morning when President Shimon Peres invited the new pope for a visit to Israel, asking him to contribute to peace as a spiritual, rather than a political, leader.
 
“He’ll be a welcome guest in the Holy Land, as a man of inspiration who can add to the attempt to bring peace in a stormy area,” Peres said during a meeting with the leaders of the Catholic Church in Poland on Thursday. “All people here, without exception, without difference of religion or nationality, will welcome the newly elected pope.”

more


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 14, 2013, 01:25:37 pm
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President Shimon Peres invited the new pope for a visit to Israel, asking him to contribute to peace as a spiritual, rather than a political, leader.

Careful what you ask for! A certain "spiritual" leader will certainly arise and not make things better for Israel, but much worse.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 14, 2013, 09:54:38 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/israel-welcomes-pope-friend-jews-205216572.html

Israel welcomes new pope as friend of the Jews
3/14/13

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli leaders are welcoming the selection of Pope Francis and calling him a friend of the Jewish people.
 
President Shimon Peres invited the new pope to follow the lead of his two predecessors and visit Israel. In a meeting with Roman Catholic Church leaders in Poland Thursday, Peres called Francis "a man of inspiration that can add to the attempt to bring peace in a stormy area."
 
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is sure the "excellent relations" between Jews and Christians as well as between Israel and the Vatican will continue.
 
Israel's chief rabbinate also welcomed the appointment, saying Pope Francis' "good relations with the Jewish People are well known."
 
The former archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, has been chosen as the 266th pope.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 16, 2013, 10:49:13 am
http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-pope-tied-to-argentinas-dirty-war.html
New Pope Tied to Argentina’s Dirty War
Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
March 14, 2013
 
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the former Archbishop of Buenos Aires who was elected Pope by the papal conclave on Wednesday, was intimately involved in Operation Condor’s “Dirty War” in South America.
 
A product of Chile’s DINA secret police and five other national security states in Latin America — Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay – Operation Condor was an intelligence operation designed to monitor, assassinate and disappear leftist dissidents who threatened the bankster economic operation underway in South America.

The brutal dictator of neighboring Chile, Gen. Augusto Pinochet, went so far as to export his murder operation to the United States. On September 21, 1976, a former minister of the Chilean Allende government — overthrown in a CIA sponsored coup — was murdered on the streets of Washington, D.C., along with his American aide, Ronni Moffitt.
 
Business Insider mentions an article by Hugh O’Shaughnessy posted on the London Guardian website on January 4, 2011. He takes the Catholic Church to task for the role it played in Operation Condor and, ultimately, the disappearance and murder of over 30,000 South Americans. He cites Argentine author Horacio Verbitsky, who documented the summary execution of thousands of political dissidents. The preferred method of murder was to push dissidents from airborne Argentine military planes into the waters of the Rio de la Plata or the Atlantic Ocean.
 
[Verbitsky] recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship’s political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio’s name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment.
 
Biographer Sergio Rubin described Bergoglio’s behavior not so much as complicity as pragmatism. “Rubin said failing to challenge the dictators was simply pragmatic at a time when so many people were getting killed, and attributed Bergoglio’s later reluctance to share his side of the story as a reflection of his humility,” the Associated Press reported on Wednesday after the 76-year old “austere Jesuit intellectual” was elected pontiff.
 
Moreover, a human rights lawyer, Myriam Bregman, tried to bring Bergoglio to court for the role he allegedly played in the betrayal of two Jesuit priests kidnapped and handed over to an Argentine death squad. The priests were instructed “to leave their pastoral work” following divisions within the Society of Jesus, a Catholic order controlled by the Argentine elite. The Jesuits made the fatal mistake of criticizing the Catholic Church and its close relationship to the military junta (see Michel Chossudovsky‘s article on Pope Francis and the connection to Operation Condor and the Dirty War).
 
“Bergoglio twice invoked his right under Argentine law to refuse to appear in open court, and when he eventually did testify in 2010, his answers were evasive,” El Mundo reported in November, 2010.
 
Bergoglio Led Church During Economic Reign of Chicago Boys
 
Bergoglio headed up the Catholic church during the successful effort by the globalists to dismantle Argentina’s economy.
 
The country’s military dictatorship was supported by Wall Street bankers and David Rockefeller. “One of the key appointments of the military junta (on the instructions of Wall Street) was the Minister of Economy, Jose Alfredo Martinez de Hoz, a member of Argentina’s business establishment and a close friend of David Rockefeller,” writes Michel Chossudovsky. “The neoliberal macro-economic policy package adopted under Martinez de Hoz was a ‘carbon copy’ of that imposed in October 1973 in Chile by the Pinochet dictatorship under advice from the ‘Chicago Boys’, following the September 11, 1973 coup d’Etat and the assassination of president Salvador Allende.”


Under the helm of Minister of Economy Jose Alfredo Martinez de Hoz, central bank monetary policy was largely determined by Wall Street and the IMF. The currency market was manipulated. The Peso was deliberately overvalued leading to an insurmountable external debt. The entire national economy was precipitated into bankruptcy.
 
The IMF and World Bank wrecking ball accomplished its task in South America with predictable result — massive misery, poverty, malnutrition and death.
 
“Pinochet did not destroy Chile’s economy all alone,” writes Greg Palast of the disaster that unfolded in Chile. “It took nine years of hard work by the most brilliant minds in world academia, a gaggle of Milton Friedman’s trainees, the Chicago Boys. Under the spell of their theories, the General abolished the minimum wage, outlawed trade union bargaining rights, privatized the pension system, abolished all taxes on wealth and on business profits, slashed public employment, privatized 212 state industries and 66 banks and ran a fiscal surplus.”


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 16, 2013, 11:00:23 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-cant-escape-argentinas-dark-past-192320988.html
Pope Francis Can't Escape Argentina's Dark Past
By Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire – Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

The world is still learning much about the life and history of Pope Francis, and now the Vatican finds itself having to directly confront the most troubling story from his early life in Argentina. On Friday, the Catholic Church was forced to deny charges that then-Cardinal Bergoglio was complicit in the state-sponsored terrorism during Argentina's "Dirty War" of the 1970s and early 1980s. The Vatican spokesperson said "There has never been a credible, concrete accusation against him," and the charges "reveal anti-clerical left-wing elements that are used to attack the Church."
 
Bergoglio was still a young priest when the a military junta took over the country in 1967 and began a vicious campaign of terror and murder in attempts to crush an underground rebellion. The period is called the Dirty War, because rather than battles fought in the open, the military dictatorship relied on kidnappings, terror, and other brutal tactics to clamp down on revolutionaries. (Although there were certainly accusations of atrocities on both sides.) Tens of thousands of Argentine citizens were "disappeared"—kidnapped off the streets or from their homes, and often tortured or thrown in prison, before being killed outright. There were even instances of victims being thrown from moving airplanes into the ocean, while still alive. Simply being suspected of having sympathy for the other side was enough to condemn you.

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 18, 2013, 10:26:35 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-lauded-interfaith-dialogue-221930300.html
Pope Francis lauded for interfaith dialogue
By ALMUDENA CALATRAVA and DAMIAN PACHTER | Associated Press – 4 hrs ago.

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — The election of Pope Francis has thrilled Jewish leaders in Argentina, who predict that their friend will continue to foster warm relations and open dialogue between Catholicism and other faiths during his pontificate.
 
They've seen it firsthand as recently as December, when then-Buenos Aires Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio lit the first candle on the menorah at Temple NCI-Emanu El during a Hanukkah ceremony.
 
"He's got a very deep capacity for dialogue with other religions," Rabbi Alejandro Avruj told The Associated Press on Monday, recalling the moment. "He spoke of light as renovation, of the re-inauguration of the temple of Jerusalem 2,200 years ago, and the need to carry light to the world."
 
As Tuesday's papal installation ceremony draws dozens of Jewish, Orthodox and other Christian leaders to the Vatican, those who knew Bergoglio in his previous role say he considered healing divisions between religions a major part of the Catholic Church's mission.
 
"He's the one who opened the cathedral of Buenos Aires for interfaith ceremonies, like when we prayed for peace. He's not one of those who waits for you to call them to participate in these events — he promotes them," said Avruj, who met Bergoglio after both leaders launched projects in the same slum in a gritty area of southern Buenos Aires.
 
Bergoglio brought leaders of the Jewish, Muslim, evangelical and Orthodox Christian faiths into the Metropolitan Cathedral to pray for peace in the Middle East last November. "Everything is lost with war, everything is gained through peace," Bergoglio said then. "With peace wins victory and respect."
 
The archbishop also welcomed Jews for a joint service on the 74th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the night in 1938 when nearly 200 synagogues were destroyed, Jewish shops were looted and tens of thousands of Jews were sent to be exterminated in Adolf Hitler's Germany.
 
And he also sponsored interfaith prayers after Pope Benedict XVI offended Muslims in 2006 by quoting a Byzantine emperor as saying some of the Prophet Muhammad's teachings were "evil and inhuman."
 
That time, rather than criticize Benedict directly, Bergoglio let a lower-ranking priest lead a service in which he himself did not participate. But leaders of other religions were impressed nonetheless.
 
This dialogue between religions "isn't just a photo op," Omar Abboud of the Islamic Center of the Argentine Republic said then. "It's a genuine and well-reasoned commitment under construction, because we know that we cannot get by without this dialogue."
 
Guillermo Borger, president of the Argentine-Israelite Mutual Association, said Bergoglio came often to the association's headquarters, which was rebuilt on the site of Argentina's worst terrorist attack, the still-unsolved 1994 bombing that killed 85 people. "We're sure that given the sensitivity that Cardinal Bergoglio, now Pope Francis, had here, I really believe that he'll continue to support us.
 
"We've spoken often about this idea of the power of working together, and we expect that he'll continue to do it this way as pope, this way of acknowledging the past so that finally we might achieve justice. ... We've had long talks about this and we're absolutely on the same page."
 
One rabbi who is particularly close to Francis is Abraham Skorka, whose friendly debates over religion, politics and social issues with the archbishop became so enjoyable that they decided to invite a writer with a tape recorder along. Their dialogues were published in 2010 as "On Heaven and Earth." Then, the two men kept it up on a program each Friday on the Archdiocesan TV channel.
 
"Is it true that Argentines don't want dialogue?" Bergoglio asks in the book. "I wouldn't say so. Rather, I think we succumb as victims of attitudes that don't permit us to have dialogue: arrogance, not knowing how to listen, hostility in our speech, attacking the messenger and so many others. Dialogue is born from an attitude of respect toward the other person, from a conviction that the other has something good to say."


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Post by: Kilika on March 19, 2013, 03:54:55 am
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"He's got a very deep capacity for dialogue with other religions," Rabbi Alejandro Avruj told The Associated Press on Monday,

That's not a good thing! ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 20, 2013, 07:24:57 pm
http://gma.yahoo.com/pope-francis-supported-civil-unions-cardinal-171207698--abc-news-topstories.html
Pope Francis Supported Civil Unions as Cardinal
3/20/13

When Argentina was on the verge of legalizing gay marriage in 2010, Pope Francis - then Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires - suggested the church support civil unions, according to news reports published at the time.
 
"We don't have a fanatic vision," his spokesman, Federico Wals, told Argentina's Infonews in 2010. "What we are asking is that the laws are respected. We believe that we must propose more comprehensive civil union rights than currently exist, but no gay marriage."
 
Faced with the likelihood that gay marriage would be legalized, Bergoglio, then head of the Argentina Bishop's Conference, suggested during a meeting with bishops in 2010 that the church support civil unions in the country. The idea was rebuked by the bishops, Pope Francis' authorized biographer, Sergio Rubin, told the Associated Press.
 
PHOTOS: Pope Francis Through the Years
 
With civil unions, which were already legal in parts of Argentina, off the table, Bergoglio became the public face of the battle against the proposed gay marriage legislation proposed by President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.
 
In Argentina, where three-quarters of the country is Catholic but only 19 percent said they regularly attended Mass, according to a 2010 Pew study, Bergoglio encouraged the faithful to protest the legislation, which needed parliamentary approval.
 
In a letter asking for prayer from Argentine monasteries, Bergoglio called same sex marriage "an attempt to destroy God's plan" and likened gay adoption to a form of discrimination against children.
 
Despite his efforts, the law passed in July 2010, making Argentina the first country in South America to recognize same-sex marriage equality.
 
Kirchner, who has been a progressive force in the country and once called Pope Francis' views "medieval," met privately with the new pontiff Monday at the Vatican. The two had previously clashed on measures such as mandatory sex education in schools, free distribution of contraceptives in public hospitals and the right for transsexuals to officially change their identities.
 
But all tensions were put aside, at least temporarily.
 
"I saw him serene, confident, at peace, calm and also busy and concerned, not just about the enormous task that will be governing the Vatican State, but also about the commitment to changing the things he knows must change," she said at a news conference after the meeting.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 20, 2013, 08:13:17 pm
Evangelical Leaders Luis Palau and Rick Warren Salute Pope Francis – What Are the Implications?
3/19/13
Several Christian media outlets are announcing the “friendship” between evangelical mega-evangelist Luis Palau and the new Jesuit Pope who was elected at the Vatican in Italy this past week. Headlines are letting Christians know that one of their most popular evangelists has a special relationship with “Pope Francis.”

Palau is not the only evangelical leader to send his praises and words of support to the new pope. Rick Warren sent out a message on his “Twitter” account just prior to the election, “Join me today in praying and fasting for the 115 Cardinals seeking God’s will in a new leader,” and after the election Warren tweeted “Welcome Pope Francis, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, #HabemusPapam ["We have a pope!"] You have our prayers.” Christians who look at things from a biblical point of view and take into consideration biblical prophecy about the last days will have a difficult time not being concerned about the implications of Christian leaders exhibiting a kind of comradeship with the Roman Catholic leader. As Lighthouse Trails and Understand the Times have attempted to warn believers about the ecumenical, interspiritual one-world religion that is coming, once again we see the lethargy regarding spiritual deception within the ranks of Christian leaders.

While behaving with Christian charity toward the Pope and praying for him (as we should for all people) is not a bad thing in and of itself, Luis Palau and Rick Warren’s ongoing minimizing of the extreme differences between biblical Christianity and Roman Catholicism is. Over the years, the Palau crusades have included Catholic counselors for those coming forward to receive Christ, and Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven movement has offered Catholic-focused programs. This goes beyond the scope of reaching out to Catholics with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and negates Scripture that tells Christians to be discerning and speak up against false teachings.

In an interview with Luis Palau on Relevant magazine website, talking about his friendship with the new pope, Palau stated: “I think that’s the emphasis he is going to bring to the papacy: That the Gospel is primary, that we must emphasize it and especially with youth.”1 But just what “Gospel” will the pope actually emphasize? Will the true Gospel of Jesus Christ be able to be emphasized when it is shrouded in Masses, Eucharists, Transubstantiations, Marian apparitions, and a “new” evangelization program that seeks to bring back the “lost brethren” to the “Mother” church? To understand more clearly the concerns that Lighthouse Trails and Understand the Times share, please read some of our material on just what Roman Catholicism teaches. We do not have any animosity toward Catholics themselves, but we do see the Roman Catholic church as a body of deception, leading millions away from the Gospel with a “justification by works” false gospel and a eucharistic christ that is “another Jesus.”

Below is just one of many headlines by Christian media boasting of Luis Palau’s relationship with the Pope.

“Luis Palau: New Pope Francis a Friend of Evangelicals”

By Anugrah Kumar
Christian Post

Evangelist Luis Palau, who knows and has prayed together with Pope Francis on several occasions, called the new leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics a friend of evangelicals who is respectful of all sides of Christianity.

“I exploded,” Palau told oregonlive.com, of his reaction after his son, Kevin Palau, president of the Luis Palau Association, shared the news that Jorge Mario Bergoglio, archbishop of Buenos Aires, was elected pope this week. “I just couldn’t believe it. In the last election, he was in the running but he told me he felt led by God to remove himself from the race. I said, ‘Maybe next time,’ and he said, ‘I’ll be too old.’”

The fiery preacher who some have called the “Latin Billy Graham,” said whenever they prayed together, Bergoglio asked him to “lay your hands on me and pray for me, that God will keep me as servant.” The new pope is respectful of all sides of Christianity, Palau said, adding the press referred to him as the “evangelical pope” in 2008. Click here to read more.
 
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletters/2013/newsletters20130319.htm#abc2


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on March 22, 2013, 05:10:58 am
i have to see this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9MJe9-g5Jw&list=UU_6yk4Q5RMk1MCUj5A2a-jw&index=1

Tom Horn and Cris Putnam join Gary Stearman as they discuss how the new pope does in fact validate St. Malachy's prophecy of the popes.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 22, 2013, 11:50:57 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-dialogue-islam-says-world-must-more-103919637.html
3/22/13
Pope urges dialogue with Islam, more help for the poor

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis urged the West on Friday to intensify dialogue with Islam and appealed to the world to do more to combat poverty and protect the environment.

Speaking in Italian, the new pontiff said richer countries should fight what he called "the spiritual poverty of our times" by re-forging links with God.

"How many poor people there still are in the world! And what great suffering they have to endure!" he told the diplomats in the Vatican's frescoed Sala Regia.

Some critics of the Catholic Church, which has been struggling with scandals and internal divisions, say its rejection of contraception in particular harms the poor.

Others say it does much good in the developing world, running thousands of hospitals, schools, orphanages and hospices.

Francis made his appeal in an address to diplomats accredited to the Vatican, sending a message through them to the leaders of the 180 states with which the Vatican has diplomatic relations.

He urged them to help keep religion central in public life and promote inter-religious dialogue as a catalyst for efforts to build peace.

"In this work (peace building), the role of religion is fundamental. It is not possible to build bridges between people while forgetting God," he said.

"But the converse is also true: it is not possible to establish true links with God while ignoring other people. Hence it is important to intensify dialogue among the various religions, and I am thinking particularly of dialogue with Islam."

Francis, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina, said he was grateful that many Muslim religious and civilian leaders attended his inaugural Mass on Tuesday
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DIALOGUE, NOT RIVALRY

Dialogue, he said, "should help to build bridges connecting all people, in such a way that everyone can see in the other not an enemy, not a rival, but a brother or sister."

He underlined the importance of defending the poor when he explained why he had decided to take the name of St. Francis of Assisi, who is associated with austerity and help for the poor.

"Fighting poverty, both material and spiritual, building peace and constructing bridges: these, as it were, are the reference points for a journey that I want to invite each of the countries here represented to take up," he said
.

In his speech, the pope thanked Christians in the developing world "who dedicate themselves to helping the sick, orphans, the homeless and all the marginalized, thus striving to make society more humane and just".

African Catholics have said they want the new pope to champion traditional Church teachings, such as opposing contraception, abortion and same-sex marriage.

Since his election, Francis has drawn attention to the need to defend nature and included it in his speech to the diplomats.

"Here too, it helps me to think of the name of (Saint)Francis, who teaches us profound respect for the whole of creation and the protection of our environment, which all too often, instead of using for the good, we exploit greedily, to one another's detriment," he said.

Francis has set the tone for a humbler papacy. The Vatican said he will hold a Holy Thursday ceremony next week in the chapel of a youth prison instead of in the Vatican or a Rome basilica where it has been held before.

He has also begun inviting outsiders to attend his morning Mass, something which Pope John Paul II did but which Benedict XVI, who is now "pope emeritus", discontinued.

On Thursday, France invited staff of the Santa Martha residence in the Vatican and on Friday it was the turn of Vatican gardeners to attend the morning Mass in the chapel of residence, a spokesman said.

On Saturday, Francis will fly to the papal summer retreat south of Rome to visit Benedict, who last month became the first pope in 600 years to abdicate instead of ruling for life, saying he no longer had the strength to carry out his mission.

(Reporting By Philip Pullella; Editing by Hugh Lawson)


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 22, 2013, 08:16:51 pm
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletters/2013/newsletters20130319.htm#1
Pope Francis – Spiritually “Founded” on a Contemplative Tradition

“Francis is a Jesuit and his long, arduous formation as a priest was founded on the Spiritual Exercises of St Ignatius.” – UK Telegraph

“To think that the leader of the Catholic Church is one who follows in the tradition of Ignatius, whose life has been devoted to finding God in all things.” – Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities

LTRP Note: As we stated in a recent article, Contemplative Spirituality – the Source of the Catholic Church’s Expansion,” contemplative prayer (mysticism) is the tool used to grow the Catholic church. It is also the tool that is drawing all religions together (though called different things in different religious traditions: Sufism, Kabbalah, Samadhi, etc.). In the UK Telegraph article below, the subtitle reads “The power of prayer is bringing Canterbury and Rome together after 500 years.” The article says that Pope Francis’ spirituality is based on the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.

The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius are named after the founder of the Jesuit Order, and have typically been used by Catholics. However, according to one source, “beginning in the 1980s, Protestants have had a growing interest in the Spiritual Exercises. There are recent (2006) adaptations that are specific to Protestants which emphasize the exercises as a school of contemplative prayer.” Traditionally, Ignatian Spirituality is practiced in a retreat center setting usually with the assistance of a spiritual director. As with other contemplative practices, it is believed that if the Ignatian exercises are practiced, the practitioner can conquer self and become more Christ-like (this is why Ignatian Spirituality is often included in Spiritual Formation programs). There is much that could be said here about Spiritual Formation but we will reserve that for another time.

It is correct to say that Ignatian Spirituality is part of contemplative spirituality. We could give many examples but one case in point to illustrate this would be James Wakefield’s book, Sacred Listening: Discovering the Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius Loyola (Baker Books, 2006). We discuss certain aspects of Wakefield’s book in our The Jesuit Agenda booklet tract. Right now, we’d like to draw your attention to his book to show its ties with contemplative spirituality. The book includes instructions on various contemplative practices such as lectio divina and quotes and references several contemplative advocates, including Tilden Edwards. Edwards, the co-founder of the panentheistic Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation in Washington DC. made the revealing statement that “This mystical stream [contemplative prayer] is the Western bridge to Far Eastern spirituality” ( Spiritual Friend, p. 18). It couldn’t have been said more accurately, which is precisely why Lighthouse Trails continues its efforts to warn about contemplative spirituality.

When one considers how evangelical leaders such as Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Focus on the Family, Beth Moore, and many others have promoted contemplative spirituality for many years now, is it really any wonder that Protestants and Catholics are being drawn together? Couple that with efforts such as the Manhattan Declaration (endorsed by numerous Christian figures and organizations) that drew evangelicals and Catholics together from a “moral issues” point of view, and separation between the two didn’t have a standing chance. Put it all together, and the evangelical church is in big trouble. Remember the price that many believers had to pay for breaking away from the Roman Catholic church. They paid with their blood and lives. What would they be saying to us now if they were standing here with us?

For further documentation that Pope Francis is founded on contemplative practices, a statement was issued from the AJCU (Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities) reaffirming the pope’s “Ignatian spirituality,” stating that:

All Jesuits share the experience of a rigorous spiritual formation process marked by a transformative experience with the Spiritual Exercises of Saint Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits. To think that the leader of the Catholic Church is one who follows in the tradition of Ignatius, whose life has been devoted to finding God in all things, and who is committed to the service of faith and the promotion of justice, fills me with great hope. This is a great day for the Jesuits and the worldwide Church. (source)

Article from the UK Telegraph:

“A new Pope, a new Primate and a new life for Christianity”

The power of prayer is bringing Canterbury and Rome together after 500 years
 by Charles Moore
UK Telegraph

So far, the combined media knowledge of Pope Francis has not been impressive. We, the public, have been told that he likes travelling on public transport, that he played a controversial role among his fellow Jesuits in the years of the Argentine military dictatorships, and that he “is a conservative but cares for the poor” (that “but” tells you the politics of most ecclesiastical reportage). That’s about it.

I know that the Catholic Church is a huge global organisation, so lots of its cardinals, including Pope Francis, have the cheek to come from funny, faraway places. But one feels that if Jorge Bergoglio had been an Argentine footballer rather than an archbishop, plenty of experts would have been on hand to impart useful information. When it comes to religion, our media are very provincial. We project on to it our Western obsessions, which are mainly sexual. We are alarmed by its breadth and its depth.
more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9932996/A-new-Pope-a-new-Primate-anda-new-life-for-Christianity.html


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Post by: Christian40 on March 25, 2013, 04:11:36 am
Pope Francis’ Pectoral Cross EXPOSED

Another point to notice is his pectoral cross, which is pictured below.The pectoral cross looks even more disturbing form a distance and some see similarities to the mummy Osiris, the EGYPTIAN “god of the afterlife, underworld, and dead.”

(http://imageftw.com/uploads/20130325/420406_4411373254099_2103080716_n.jpg)


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 29, 2013, 09:32:32 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-refers-muslim-brothers-good-friday-001145243.html
3/29/13
Pope refers to "Muslim brothers" on Good Friday

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis reached out in friendship to "so many Muslim brothers and sisters" during a Good Friday procession dedicated to the suffering of Christians from terrorism, war and religious fanaticism in the Middle East.

The new pontiff, who has rankled traditionalists by rejecting many trappings of his office, mostly stuck to the traditional script during the nighttime Way of the Cross procession at Rome's Colosseum, one of the most dramatic rituals of Holy Week.

With torches lighting the way, the faithful carried a cross to different stations, where meditations and prayers were read out recalling the final hours of Jesus' life and his crucifixion.

This year, the prayers were composed by young Lebanese, and many recalled the plight of minority Christians in the region, where wars have forced thousands to flee their homelands. The meditations called for an end to "violent fundamentalism," terrorism and the "wars and violence which in our days devastate various countries in the Middle East."

Francis, who became pope just over two weeks ago, chose, however, to stress Christians' positive relations with Muslims in the region in his brief comments at the end of the ceremony.

Standing on a platform overlooking the procession route, Francis recalled Benedict XVI's 2012 visit to Lebanon when "we saw the beauty and the strong bond of communion joining Christians together in that land and the friendship of our Muslim brothers and sisters and so many others."

"That occasion was a sign to the Middle East and to the whole world, a sign of hope," he said.

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 30, 2013, 10:40:41 am
Feet washing? You have to admit, this new Pope is doing some things that are really grabbing the world's attention...

http://news.yahoo.com/popes-foot-wash-final-straw-traditionalists-004235548.html
Pope's foot-wash a final straw for traditionalists
3/29/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis has won over many hearts and minds with his simple style and focus on serving the world's poorest, but he has devastated traditionalist Catholics who adored his predecessor, Benedict XVI, for restoring much of the traditional pomp to the papacy.

Francis' decision to disregard church law and wash the feet of two girls — a Serbian Muslim and an Italian Catholic — during a Holy Thursday ritual has become something of the final straw, evidence that Francis has little or no interest in one of the key priorities of Benedict's papacy: reviving the pre-Vatican II traditions of the Catholic Church.

One of the most-read traditionalist blogs, "Rorate Caeli," reacted to the foot-washing ceremony by declaring the death of Benedict's eight-year project to correct what he considered the botched interpretations of the Second Vatican Council's modernizing reforms.

"The official end of the reform of the reform — by example," ''Rorate Caeli" lamented in its report on Francis' Holy Thursday ritual.

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Post by: Boldhunter on March 30, 2013, 01:47:54 pm
For some reason my cell can't copy/paste the text from the article  but it is about "7 Fascinating Facts We Have Learned About The Pope."

http://theweek.com/article/index/242061/7-fascinating-things-weve-learned-about-pope-francis

It has been two and a half weeks since the world was introduced to Pope Francis, and his unexpected promotion to the head of the Roman Catholic Church was met with a flurry of quick profiles. We learned, for example, that he is a Jesuit, lived in a small apartment and cooked his own meals, had a complicated relationship with Argentina's former military dictatorship, and has only one lung.

Then, most of us moved on to other things, as the new pope was officially installed in his position and started sending signals about what kind of a pontiff Pope Francis will be. What have we learned? Well, so far "it might seem as if Pope Francis is in a bit of denial over his new job as leader of the world's 1.2-billion Catholics," says the Associated Press' Nicole Winfield. "Or perhaps he's simply changing the popular idea of what it means to be pope, keeping the no-frills style he cultivated as archbishop of Buenos Aires in ways that may have broad implications for the church."

So, as the new pontiff presides for the first time over the holiest weekend of the Christian calendar, here are seven things we've learned about him so far:

1. He's not moving into the papal palace
Pope Francis has shown his desire to keep up the humble lifestyle he cultivated in Argentina in several ways: He showed up to pay his own pre-conclave hotel bill in person, personally called his newspaper carriers in Buenos Aires to cancel his subscriptions, frequently talks about the need for priests from the pope on down to serve the people, and spent Holy Thursday washing the feet of young inmates at a detention center outside Rome, instead of cleaning priests' feet (or delegating the washing) in Rome's ornate churches, as previous popes have done. But his highest-profile move has been his decision to live in a small suite in the Vatican hotel, the Casa Santa Marta, instead of the opulent 12-plus-room papal apartment on the top floor of the Apostolic Palace.

There will "be no 16th-century polished marble floors or roof terrace with unmatched views of Rome" for the "least popey Pope in papal history," says Simon Usborne at Britain's The Independent, at least not outside of office hours: Francis will use the papal apartment as his workspace, to receive official guests and handle papal business. But he'll live in the antiseptic, institutional hotel with other guests, eating in a communal dining room and celebrating mass with Vatican groundskeepers, domestic staff, and other low-level workers — "for now," says Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi. "We'll see how it works."

"Beyond seeking a humbler set-up — not to mention a home-base that's less isolating and, perhaps, easier to sneak out of as he sees fit," says Rocco Palmo at Whispers in the Loggia, the move highlights another aspect of this "unique papacy: Unlike his predecessors since time immemorial, the pontiff has no personal household of aides and domestics who've come with him to the Vatican." Without an entourage to share the spacious papal apartment with, Pope Francis would have been living in a big house by himself.

2. Francis is no "Prada Pope"
The new pope's austerity is particularly notable as a contrast to his predecessor, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, who "was known in Italian media as the Prada Pope thanks to his custom-made red slippers," says The Independent's Usborne. And it wasn't just the red shoes and ermine vestments: As soon as Benedict became pope in 2005, he "commissioned 200 architects and specialist builders to renovate the appartamento pontificio," including putting in a "high-spec German kitchen."

Francis is keeping his black shoes, foregoing the red cape popes usually wear, and "his reluctance to change too much extends under the white cassock," too, says Whispers in the Loggia's Palmo: Francis' simple sartorial choices "don't just make his move to keep wearing black pants visible through the garment, but likewise highlight the untucked tails of his white dress-shirt." He's also keeping the iron-plated pectoral cross he used as archbishop, and his papal fisherman's ring isn't gold but gold-plated silver, made from a mold created for Pope Paul VI.

3. He sees himself as a bishop, not a king
One of the things that might prevent the new pope from rejecting "the pomp and ceremony that surrounds his 2,000-year-old office" is the name he inherited, says Peter Stanford in Britain's The Guardian: "His full title is 'bishop of Rome, vicar of Jesus Christ, successor of St Peter, prince of the apostles, supreme pontiff of the universal church, patriarch of the west, primate of Italy, archbishop and metropolitan of the Roman province, sovereign of the state of Vatican City.'" That's a mouthful when "you are busy telling people you are at their service."

He still goes by "Bergoglio" to his closest friends, says the AP's Winfield, and signs his official correspondence "Francis." When it comes to how he sees his papacy, perhaps the biggest titular clue came when he was announced to the world as pope and said his fellow cardinals had given "Rome a bishop." As it turns out, "bishop of Rome is the title he has emphasized repeatedly ever since — not vicar of Christ, or any of his other official titles."

4. Francis might be stubborn enough to take on the Curia
Everybody is focusing on the pope's personal austerity and humility, but people overlook his "management experience in his native Argentina as head of the Jesuit province and chairman of the national bishops conference," says Reuters' Tom Heneghan. He's been described as an attentive and personable boss, but also one who is "demanding, has little patience for bureaucracy, and appoints talented assistants." His predecessor, Benedict, was not a good manager, and it showed, in a leak-prone and feudal Vatican bureaucracy, or Curia. "The first hint Francis gave of plans to change the Curia came three days after his election when he reappointed its top bureaucrats temporarily rather than permanently, as Benedict did after being elected in 2005."

Francis' "success at defining himself as himself on the world stage has come thanks to a less visible, yet equally key trait of the 266th pope: His steely sense of determination," says Palmo at Whispers in the Loggia. We haven't seen too much of that trait yet, but "its early quiet flashes are merely shaping up as a sneak preview of the battle of wills which is almost certain to define his pontificate."

5. He's a pretty deft politician
Francis' "sharp political skills have long been apparent to Argentines," and he's already deployed them as pope to win friends and influence people, says the AP's Debora Rey. That's true nowhere as starkly as in the "remarkable about-face" of his former nemesis, Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. When Fernandez decided it was in her interest to ally herself with the Argentine pope, he reciprocated, granting her his first papal audience. This is a pretty clear "signal that when it comes to the populist governments of Latin America, he'll avoid the kinds of direct confrontations that feed divisive politics, and instead will seek to co-opt them as well, joining forces to help the poorest benefit from society."

6. He will focus on ecumenism
Another early motif of the Franciscan papacy is cooperation and reconciliation with other faiths. A remarkable number of religious leaders attended and even participated in his installation mass, and "in his March 20 audience with religious leaders, Francis sent an important signal about his view of the papacy and its relationship with other Christians," says the AP's Nicole Winfield. He greeted Patriarch Bartholomew I, the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, as "my brother," and placed his chair on the floor along with all the other religious leaders. "Two days later, when Francis greeted diplomats accredited to the Holy See, his chair was up on a platform."

"To have a simpler view, less grandiose sense of the trappings of the papacy might be saying, 'I want to be able to relate to you at a different level,'" U.S. Greek Orthodox official Anton Vrame tells the AP.

7. He is driving his security detail "crazy"
If reporters and commentators are charmed by Pope Francis, he's causing headaches with the Vatican security service — the mix of Swiss Guards and Vatican police charged with protecting the pope. Pope Francis has ditched the bulletproof-glass-enclosed Popemobile the pontiff has used since Pope John Paull II was shot in 1981, riding around in an open-air white Mercedes jeep — and frequently getting out to greet the crowds. (See video below).

He's also mixing freely with crowds at churches and walking when his security detail wants him to go by car. It's hard to argue with a pope, so "as Curialists of every stripe tend to do, the guards have taken their case to the ultimate sounding board of life behind the walls: The Italian press," says Rocco Palmo. Anonymous security officials tell Italy's La Stampa that they are "seeking to adjust to the new style," but should Francis' habits not "normalize" after his first days, "it will make everybody crazy."


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 31, 2013, 02:35:52 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/shroud-turin-goes-display-amid-research-164019211.html
Shroud of Turin goes on display amid new research

VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Shroud of Turin went on display for a special TV appearance Saturday amid new research disputing claims it's a medieval fake and purporting to date the linen some say was Jesus' burial cloth to around the time of his death.

Pope Francis sent a special video message to the event in Turin's cathedral, but made no claim that the image on the shroud of a man with wounds similar to those suffered by Christ was really that of Jesus. He called the cloth an "icon," not a relic — an important distinction.

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 31, 2013, 05:30:45 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-makes-easter-pleas-world-peace-202950073.html
Pope makes Easter pleas for world peace
3/31/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis marked Christianity's most joyous day with a passionate plea for world peace, celebrating his first Easter Sunday as pontiff in the enthusiastic company of more than 250,000 people who overflowed from St. Peter's Square.

With eloquent words in his Easter message, Francis lamented enduring conflicts in the Middle East, on the Korean peninsula and elsewhere and remembered the world's neediest people. With physical gestures, he illustrated the personal, down-to-earth caring he brings as a pastor to this new papacy — cradling a disabled child held out to him in the crowd and delightedly accepting a surprise gift thrust at him.

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 31, 2013, 05:41:46 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-makes-easter-pleas-mideast-peace-101523086.html
3/31/13
Pope makes Easter pleas for Mideast peace

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis delivered a plea for peace in his first Easter Sunday message to the world, decrying the seemingly endless conflicts in the Middle East and on the Korean peninsula after celebrating Mass at an outdoor altar before more than 250,000 people in flower-bedecked St. Peter's Square.

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As popes before him have, he urged Israelis and Palestinians to resume peace talks and end a conflict that "has lasted all too long." And, in reflecting on the two-year-old Syrian crisis, Francis asked, "How much suffering must there still be before a political solution" can be found?

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 01, 2013, 04:14:20 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-visits-st-peters-tomb-under-vatican-181225763.html
04/01/13
Pope visits "St. Peter's tomb" under Vatican

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Monday took an emotional, close-up look at the tomb of Peter, the church's first pontiff, buried beneath St. Peter's Basilica, the Vatican said.

By doing so, Francis became the first pontiff to visit the necropolis, where pagans and early Christians were buried, since extensive archaeological excavations were conducted at the ancient site decades ago, the Vatican said.

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Post by: Kilika on April 02, 2013, 02:34:15 am
First pope to see the fake tomb? I find that hard to believe. Unless they know it's fake and they haven't bothered till now.

Guess this is suppose to tie in with "The Bible" movie, another fake that promoted Peter at every turn in that joke of a movie and made Paul look like some kind of mean person or something. I realize he persecuted believers before his conversion, but the actor they used was rough looking and his voice made him seem, well, bad, when compared to the Peter character. They even started off calling him "Paul of Taursus", not Saul, before his conversion. It was too obvious the movie was a Catholic production, right down to the RCC commercials claiming they "compiled" the bible!

They even had I think Peter say in one scene, "I am the way, truth and life,..." but cut it off there, which made it appear that the statement was made by him, and not Jesus. They just made things up to suit production I guess, and the RCC agenda, like having Peter by himself in his boat when Jesus first showed up at Galilee. No biblical account has Peter by himself. He was at least with his brother Andrew.

And they had Jesus tell him that they would "change the world" (a "works" doctrine). Jesus didn't say that, as much as the RCC would like it, because Jesus knows the world won't change, which is why it's going to be burned up with fire in the end.

Just more and more lies by the RCC.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 02, 2013, 08:46:21 am
I watched like one hour of that "The Bible" movie when it first came out - it was too painful to watch after the 1st hour or so, a lot like hearing someone scratching his fingernails across the blackboard.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on April 02, 2013, 02:08:32 pm
Well, we watched it because the wife wanted to, so I took it as an opportunity to point out what was true and what was a lie and how they twisted scripture.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 09, 2013, 05:59:54 pm
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/303087/news/world/un-chief-hails-pope-francis-as-a-global-spiritual-leader
UN chief hails Pope Francis as a global spiritual leader
April 9, 2013 8:19pm

VATICAN CITY - UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday hailed Pope Francis as "a spiritual leader of the world" and emphasized goals of social justice shared between the Vatican and the United Nations.

"It is very important to meet a spiritual leader of the world," Ban said at the start of his meeting with the Argentine pope, who last month became the first non-European leader of the world's Catholics in nearly 1,300 years.

"The Holy See and the UN share common goals and ideas," said Ban—one of the first world leaders to be received at an audience by the new pontiff.

Francis has called for the Roman Catholic Church to be closer to ordinary people and help the needy, as well as to reach out to people of different religions and non-believers.

"We discussed the need to advance social justice and accelerate work to meet the Millenium Development Goals," Ban said after the meeting.

The international community has undertaken to meet goals including eradicating extreme poverty and hunger and reducing child mortality by 2015.

"Pope Francis is a man of peace and purpose. He is a voice for the voiceless," he said.

Ban said he also invited the pope to visit the United Nations "at his earliest convenience."

The UN leader also commented on the pope's choice to name himself after St Francis of Assisi, saying this was "a powerful message for the many goals shared by the United Nations."

"It speaks loudly of his commitment to the poor, his acute sense of humility, his passion and compassion to improve the human condition," he said.

Ban gave the pope a large book with the Charter of the United Nations in six languages.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 10, 2013, 09:16:34 pm
Speaking of the Jesuits...things like this just scream Jesuitical...

http://news.yahoo.com/french-gays-protest-marriage-law-spurs-violence-155407790.html
French gays protest as marriage law spurs violence
4/10/13

PARIS (Reuters) - A gay man beaten up in Paris this month is using a photo of his injuries to fuel a growing protest for equality, as a divisive reform bill to allow same-sex marriage in France drives a spate of homophobic attacks.

A photo taken of Wilfred de Bruijn's battered and bruised face shortly after he was kicked unconscious by unknown assailants has gone viral on the Internet this month.

"Sorry to show you this. It's the face of Homophobia," de Bruijn wrote above the image posted on his Facebook page on Sunday. It has been shared nearly 8,000 times since then.

De Bruijn, a Dutchman resident in Paris for a decade, told France Inter radio on Wednesday that he had "no doubt" that an assault on him and his boyfriend, who was punched in the face as they walked arm-in-arm, was a homophobic attack.

Gay rights issues have divided France in recent months as President Francois Hollande has pushed through a bill to legalize gay marriage despite angry street protests.

The law, backed by two in three people in surveys, is set to pass without major hitches in a parliament where Hollande's Socialists have a majority.

Yet a passionate debate, particularly on whether same-sex couples should have parenting rights, has triggered a surge in verbal and physical attacks on the gay community, according to records kept by the campaign group SOS Homophobie.

The group has recorded more than 60 reports of homophobic attacks, two to three times higher than normal, in the past week as the bill makes its final passage through the Senate.

"It feels like the most violent time in our history," said Michael Bouvard, vice-president of SOS Homophobie.

HALL VANDALISED

On Sunday night, a hall used during the day for a festival of lesbian, gay and transgender associations in the gay-friendly Marais district of central Paris was vandalized and plastered with posters for the vocal anti-gay marriage lobby.

The "Protest for Everyone" movement, led by the comedian Frigide Barjot, has united tens of thousands of Roman Catholics, evangelical Christians and Muslims.

De Bruijn said the heated nature of the debate was encouraging violence.

"It wasn't Frigide Barjot who hit my boyfriend, but you can't ignore the narrow-minded speeches being made," he said.

France, traditionally Catholic and socially conservative, is opening up slowly to acceptance of gays and lesbians, with a trickle of public figures now openly homosexual.

The law giving same-sex couples the right to marry and adopt children is now being debated in the Senate after being adopted by the lower house in February after 110 hours of debate.

SOS Homophobie is already waging a legal fight against a far-right student union that it says posted images online aimed at inciting homophobic violence.

It was due to be among several dozen lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender groups staging a demonstration against homophobia in front of Paris' town hall later on Wednesday.

In cyberspace, de Bruijn has stepped up his own protest, posting a stylized black-and-white poster version of his photo with details of Wednesday's rally and the slogan: "Fight back".

(Reporting by Tara Oakes; Editing by Kevin Liffey)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on April 16, 2013, 06:32:09 am
Is Pope Francis Laying The Groundwork For A One World Religion?

Does Pope Francis intend to help the global elite achieve their goal of uniting all of the religions of the world under a single banner?  Will he be instrumental in establishing a single global religion for the glorious “new age” that the global elite believe is coming?  After he was elected, the cover of Time Magazine declared Pope Francis to be the “New World Pope“, and since his election Pope Francis has made it abundantly clear that he is going to make ecumenical outreach a top priority.  He has spoken of his “determination to continue on the path of ecumenical dialogue“, and he has already held a number of very high profile ecumenical meetings.  Not only has he worked hard to reach out to leaders from various Christian traditions, he has also made it a point to try to acknowledge the mutual bonds that he feels with all other religions.  For example, in one recent address he made it a point to say that he believes that Muslims worship and pray to the “one God” that he also worships.  This “all roads lead to the same God” philosophy is a hallmark of the one world religion that the global elite have been slowly building toward for decades.  The global elite know that even with a one world economy and a one world government, humanity will never be truly united until there is a single global religion.  Unfortunately, this one world religion that they are seeking to establish is diametrically opposed to the Christianity that we find in the Bible.  By throwing out Biblical truth for the sake of “friendship between men and women of different religious traditions“, is Pope Francis fundamentally betraying the faith that he claims to represent?

If there is going to be a one world religion, there will have to be a bond formed between Roman Catholicism and Islam.  They are the two largest religious traditions on the planet, and so any truly “global religion” would definitely require the participation of both of them.

That is one reason why what Pope Francis has already had to say about Islam is so noteworthy.  The following comes from remarks that he made during his very first ecumenical meeting…

    I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

    The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs.

But are “Allah” and the God of the Bible the same thing?

Of course not.  For example, Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God.  Muslims deny this vehemently.  For much more on why “Allah” and the God of the Bible are not the same, please see this article.

So either Pope Francis is denying the divinity of Jesus Christ, or he is exhibiting a frightening ignorance of basic Christian theology, or there is some other agenda at work here.

During that same ecumenical meeting, Pope Francis also made it a point to state that he feels “close” to those that belong “to any religious tradition”…

    In this, we feel close even to all those men and women who, whilst not recognizing themselves belonging to any religious tradition, feel themselves nevertheless to be in search of truth, goodness and beauty, this truth, goodness and beauty of God, and who are our precious allies in efforts to defend the dignity of man, in building a peaceful coexistence among peoples and in guarding Creation carefully.

It is one thing to love people and to seek to build friendships with them, but it is another thing entirely to throw out the most basic beliefs of the faith that you supposedly represent in order to promote a specific agenda.

And Pope Francis definitely appears to have an agenda.  On another occasion, Pope Francis declared that it was time “to intensify dialogue” with other religions, and that he was “thinking particularly of dialogue with Islam.”

But this affinity for Islam did not just begin recently.  The truth is that Pope Francis was working hard to build bridges with Islam even when he was the Archbishop of Buenos Aires…

    “His humility drew my attention,” Sheik Mohsen Ali, an important Islamic leader in Argentina, told the Buenos Aires Herald. He “always showed himself a friend of the Islamic community.”

And Pope Francis has a reputation for being a cleric that really “knows Islam“…

    Sumer Noufouri, secretary-general of the Islamic Center of the Republic of Argentina, told the Buenos Aires Herald that the new pope is a “respectful, pro-dialogue person who knows Islam.”

But of course Pope Francis is not just reaching out to the Islamic world.

He has also been working hard to “intensify dialogue” with other Christian traditions.

In particular, he seems quite interested in improving relations with the Orthodox churches of the east…

    Before his address, the pope had a private meeting with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew from Istanbul, who attended Francis’s inaugural Mass on Tuesday.

    It was the first time the spiritual head of Orthodox Christians had attended a Roman pope’s inaugural Mass since the Great Schism between western and eastern Christianity in 1054.

    At Wednesday’s meeting, Francis called Bartholomew “my brother Andrew,” a reference to the apostle who was the brother of St. Peter and was the first bishop of the Church of Byzantium.

    Francis also held a private session with Metropolitan Hilarion, the foreign minister of the Russian Orthodox Church, the largest in the Orthodox world.

It won’t happen tomorrow, of course, but could Pope Francis be the Pope that brings the Roman Catholics and the Orthodox back together?

And of course a one world religion will not appear overnight either.  There are far too many differences to overcome right now.

But as the world becomes increasingly unstable, people are going to be looking for answers.  After the world is ravaged by economic collapse, food shortages, nightmarish pandemics, unprecedented natural disasters and horrifying wars, will it finally be ready for a one world religion that promises “peace and friendship” among all of the religions of the globe?

This is something to watch for in the years ahead.  The global elite desperately want a single global religion, and they will keep moving things in that direction.

For now, Pope Francis just seems to be laying the groundwork for the one world religion that is coming.  There is a 900-year-old prophecy that indicates that Pope Francis could be the last Pope.  If that prophecy is true, then it will be very important to watch the actions of this Pope very carefully.

So what do you think about all of this?

Please feel free to post a comment with your opinion below…
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/is-pope-francis-laying-the-groundwork-for-a-one-world-religion


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Post by: Kilika on April 16, 2013, 03:16:01 pm
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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 17, 2013, 06:09:29 pm
http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/evangelicals_turning_to_roman_catholic_spirituality.html
1/15/13
Evangelicals Turning to Roman Catholic Contemplative Spirituality

Everywhere we look “evangelicals” are turning to Roman Catholic styles of contemplative spirituality (which in many cases were borrowed from pagan sources), such as ritualistic rote prayers, chanting, meditation, centering prayer, the use of prayer beads, Stations of the Cross, lectio divina, labyrinths, and “the daily office.”

The cover story for the February 2008 issue of Christianity Today was “The Future Lies in the Past,” and it describes the “lost secrets of the ancient church” that are being rediscovered by evangelicals. The ancient church in question happens to be the Roman Catholic, beginning with the so-called “church fathers” of the early centuries.

The article observes that many young evangelicals dislike both “traditional Christianity” and the seeker sensitive churches. Traditional Christianity is described as too focused on “being right,” too much into “Bible studies” and “apologetics materials.” Instead, the young evangelicals are lusting after “a renewed encounter with a God” that goes beyond “doctrinal definitions.” This, of course, is a perfect definition of mysticism. It refers to experiencing God beyond the boundaries of Scripture.

Christianity Today recommends that evangelicals “stop debating” and just “embody Christianity.” Toward this end they should “embrace symbols and sacraments” and dialogue with “Catholicism and Orthodoxy”; they should “break out the candles and incense” and pray the “lectio divina” and learn the “Catholic ascetic disciplines” from “practicing monks and nuns.”

Christianity Today says that this “search for historic roots” will lead “to a deepening ecumenical conversation, and a recognition by evangelicals that the Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox are fellow Christians with much to teach us.”

This is a no-holds-barred invitation to Catholic mysticism, and it will not lead to light but to the same darkness that has characterized Rome throughout its history, and it will lead beyond Rome to the paganism from which Rome originally borrowed its “contemplative practices.”

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Post by: Mark on April 27, 2013, 04:01:45 am
Pope Francis During Feast of St. George Mass: ‘It is Not Possible to Find Jesus Outside the Church’

During his address on Tuesday in celebration of the Feast of St. George, one of the central messages delivered by Pope Francis to the cardinals gathered was that “it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church.”

“The Christian identity is not an identity card: Christian identity is belonging to the Church, because all of these belonged to the Church, the Mother Church,” he declared to the dozens present. “Because it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church. The great Paul VI said: ‘Wanting to live with Jesus without the Church, following Jesus outside of the Church, loving Jesus without the Church is an absurd dichotomy.’”

“And the Mother Church that gives us Jesus gives us our identity that is not only a seal, it is a belonging. Identity means belonging,” the pope continued. “This belonging to the Church is beautiful.”

During the brief address, Francis gave examples of the apostles who evangelized the world and endured persecution. In doing so, he continued to repeat his theme of the importance of the Church.

“Think of this Mother Church that grows, grows with new children to whom She gives the identity of the faith, because you cannot believe in Jesus without the Church,” he asserted. “Jesus Himself says in the Gospel: ‘But you do not believe, because you are not among my sheep.’ If we are not ‘sheep of Jesus,’ faith does not come to us. It is a rosewater faith, a faith without substance.”

“And let us think of the consolation that Barnabas felt, which is ‘the sweet and comforting joy of evangelizing,’” Pope Francis concluded. “And let us ask the Lord for this ‘parresia,’ this apostolic fervor that impels us to move forward, as brothers, all of us forward!”

“Forward, bringing the name of Jesus in the bosom of Holy Mother Church,” he declared, adding, “and, as St. Ignatius said, ‘hierarchical and Catholic.’ So be it.”
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Interpretation of the Pope’s message has been mixed.

“As a non-Roman Catholic, I take his words to mean the catholic (small c) church, not the Roman Catholic Church,” wrote one commenter named Megan. “If that is what he means, then he is 100% correct. Those who seek to follow Jesus by mixing Christian teaching with Buddhism or a neo-Pagan mélange of Christianity and a bunch of other weird beliefs are not going to find Christ and His salvation.”

“If anyone believes the Pope meant the Church as in the Body of Christ is wearing rose colored glasses,” asserted another named Hope. “It is well known the Catholic Church teaches they are the only true church.”

Catholic Online reporter Andrew Greenwell also agreed with the Roman Catholic insinuation of the message.

“In his short sermon on the Feast of St. George, Pope Francis spoke to the assembled Cardinals about the importance of the Church’s mission of evangelization, a mission that includes introducing people to the Catholic Church ‘because it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church,’” he wrote.

Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Truth Ministries, a former Roman Catholic, said that certain key words in the address indicated that the Pope was referring to the Catholic religion.

“He must be referring to the Roman Catholic Church since he said, ‘the Mother Church which gives us the faith that is our identity,’” Gendron told Christian News Network. “So often when we witness to Catholics and ask if they are a Christian they say, ‘No, I am a Catholic.’ That is their identity. We know that the true Church does not give anyone faith. It is given by God as a gift of His grace.”

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, “The Church, especially the Roman Catholic Church, [is] considered as a mother in its functions of nourishing and protecting the believer.”

“The Pope’s words are doctrinally very difficult indeed,” a commenter with the screen name of Parasum stated. “If the Pope believes non-Catholics are heathens, fair enough – but then the problem arises: How does he propose to square that with the teaching and acts of his recent predecessors ?”

“So what does the Pope mean?” they asked. “On the face of it, it is impossible to give his words any meaning that is not a very bad one. If his words are patient of a good sense – what is that sense ? In their natural sense, they are simply untrue.”

http://christiannews.net/2013/04/25/pope-francis-during-feast-of-st-george-mass-it-is-not-possible-to-find-jesus-outside-the-church/


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Post by: Kilika on April 27, 2013, 06:28:31 am
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...the Mother Church,...

Oh, he means "the Great Wh0re" that rides the beast and has the blood of the saints on "her" hands!  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 27, 2013, 12:52:40 pm
Pope Francis During Feast of St. George Mass: ‘It is Not Possible to Find Jesus Outside the Church’

During his address on Tuesday in celebration of the Feast of St. George, one of the central messages delivered by Pope Francis to the cardinals gathered was that “it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church.”

“The Christian identity is not an identity card: Christian identity is belonging to the Church, because all of these belonged to the Church, the Mother Church,” he declared to the dozens present. “Because it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church. The great Paul VI said: ‘Wanting to live with Jesus without the Church, following Jesus outside of the Church, loving Jesus without the Church is an absurd dichotomy.’”


Uhm...NO!

Uhm...you are WRONG, Mr. Francis!

1Cor_3:9  For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

2Cor_5:1  For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.


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Post by: Mark on May 15, 2013, 12:43:48 pm
Pope Francis elected after supernatural 'signs' in the Conclave, says Cardinal
The surprise election of the Pope Francis came about because of a series of supernatural “signs”, one of the leading Cardinals in the Roman Catholic Church has claimed.


Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, the Archbishop of Vienna, who was himself widely tipped as a possible successor to Pope Benedict, said he had personally had two “strong signs” that Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was “the chosen one” in the run up to vote.

He said only divine intervention could explain the speed with which the Argentine Cardinal - who did not feature on any of the main lists of likely candidates compiled by Vatican experts - was elected.

Speaking to an Anglican conference in London, he also said the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, had a “strange similarity” to the new Pope.

He said that the two elections were a “little miracle” and a “sign from the Lord” that the two churches should work towards closer unity.

Addressing an audience of 5,000 people in the Royal Albert Hall, at a conference organised by the prominent Holy Trinity Brompton church in west London, he said that he was certain that on the evening of March 12, as the papal Conclave began, none of the Cardinals had known who would be chosen.

“It was a tremendous experience of the Holy Spirit,” he said.

“We were driven by the Holy Spirit to this man – he was sitting in the last corner of the Sistine Chapel: This man he is the chosen one.”

He added: “I received at least two strong signs: one I can tell, the other was in the Conclave I can’t speak about – but real signs of the Lord giving me indication ‘he is the one’.”

The Cardinal said that just after a special mass before the Conclave began he came across a couple from Latin America who are friends of his.

He said: “I met them outside the Basilica and I asked: ‘You have the Holy Spirit, can you give me advice for the Conclave that will start in a few hours?’

“And the woman whispered in my ear ‘Bergoglio’, and it hit me really: if these people say Bergoglio, that’s an indication of the Holy Spirit.

“And I’m sure many of us have received similar signs during the Conclave, it wouldn’t have been possible to have this election so soon and so rapidly.”

To applause, the Cardinal went on: “You know there is a strange similarity with your Archbishop Justin, I hope so much that they will meet soon.”

Laughing, he added: “I don’t know the secrets of the ‘conclave’ at Lambeth Palace.

“But it looks like a little miracle that he became the Archbishop, so I think the Lord as given us a great sign through these two elections and other signs and what I have deeply in my heart … it is as if he would say to the world ‘come home, I wait for you’.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/10056994/Pope-Francis-elected-after-supernatural-signs-in-the-Conclave-says-Cardinal.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on May 15, 2013, 03:37:25 pm
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the other was in the Conclave I can’t speak about

11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
12  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Ephesians 5:11-13 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 21, 2013, 10:29:50 am
Exorcism? Pope Francis caught on video performing strange ritual on fan

POPE Francis has been embroiled in a scandal after footage emerged today appearing to show him giving a man an exorcism in St Peter's Square.

The astonishing incident between the Pontiff and the person in a wheelchair, took place immediately after Pentecostal mass on Sunday May 19.

The video shows how a priest leans across the boy or young man to tell Francis something, at which point the Pope’s expression becomes more serious.
 
The Pontiff then grips the top of the subject’s head firmly and is seen pushing him down into his wheelchair.

As this is happening Francis recites an intense prayer, and the boy’s mouth drops wide open and he exhales sharply.

Francis’s usual smile then returns and he continues with the traditional and more gentle Sunday greetings for sick or disabled visitors to St Peter’s.

La Repubblica newspaper this morning quoted an exorcism expert has saying: “It was a prayer of liberation from evil or even a real exorcism.”
 
The leading Roman exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth, said: “Francis is also the Bishop of Rome and like all bishops he’s an exorcist.”

The new Pope has made it quite clear since his election that he believes the Devil, whom refers to as “the Enemy” and “The Prince of this World” is a real force that needs to be fought constantly.

The Vatican has downplayed the incident, filmed by the religious satellite channel TV2000, saying it was simple prayer.

The former Pope, Benedict XVI, never performed an exorcism, Francis is on record as having performed them, however, as was Benedict’s predecessor John Paul II.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHYFiAH4hY

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4936655/pope-francis-caught-on-video-performing-strange-ritual-on-fan.html#ixzz2TwR2Q4Pp


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 21, 2013, 11:44:14 am
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The video shows how a priest leans across the boy or young man to tell Francis something, at which point the Pope’s expression becomes more serious.
 
The Pontiff then grips the top of the subject’s head firmly and is seen pushing him down into his wheelchair.

As this is happening Francis recites an intense prayer, and the boy’s mouth drops wide open and he exhales sharply.


If you guys remember me telling you about that Asian missionary guy that visited my mom's church once in awhile, and then came over to our house a couple of times in 2011...and then it was in Dec of that year when he called me out in front of the pastor and my parents how I had no love for God, had darkness, and idolatry...he pretty much proceeded to do the same thing as this Pope Francis did to this young man - grab my head with his hand and started screaming in some unknown tongue, like he was warring with some devils inside me.

Anyhow - reminded me of this when I saw the video of Pope Francis doing this - it seems like the RCC is obsessed with "fighting spiritual warfare". But for anyone that reads their bibles, nowhere does it say they do anything what they do(exorcism or whatever).

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The new Pope has made it quite clear since his election that he believes the Devil, whom refers to as “the Enemy” and “The Prince of this World” is a real force that needs to be fought constantly.


Uhm...scripture says otherwise...

[] = emphasis mine

Hebrews 2:14  Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he[Jesus] also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Heb 2:15  And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.


1John_3:8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Also another comment to what this Pope said about how the devil is a real force that needs to be fought constantly - throughout my years attending Churchianity, one of the things I've heard numerous times was that if we're even the least bit distracted during the pastor's sermon, it means we're letting the devil harass us. Uhm...this has got to be the MOST STUPIDEST thing anyone has ever heard. So are they saying the devil is really this omnipresent? But on the contrary, the pastor gets a free pass for preaching out of these dead, perverted bibles like the NIV?

Of course, nowhere in the bible does it say the devil is omnipresent and omnipotent. On the contrary, it says he's been cast down out of heaven in the book of Isaiah.

Isaiah 14:12  How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

John_12:31  Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Yeah, you can see that Catholic leaven in Churchianity today.

2Cor 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 22, 2013, 04:47:19 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/pope-francis-atheists-can-be-good
5/22/13
Pope Francis says atheists can be good

Just do good, and we'll find a meeting point, says Francis in marked departure from Benedict's line on non-Catholics


Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis has said in his latest urging that people of all religions, and none, work together.

The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning mass at his residence, a daily event at which he speaks without prepared comments.

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.

"Just do good, and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical reply to the hypothetical comment: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."

Francis's reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is in marked contrast to the attitude of his predecessor, Benedict, who sometimes prompted complaints from non-Catholics that he seemed to see them as second-class believers.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on May 24, 2013, 03:03:02 pm
Revelation 13:11-14 KJV

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 25, 2013, 07:14:28 am
He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio.


He is saying everyone is saved, you dont have to do anything as you get a free ride to Heaven.

“I am the way, the truth, and the life; NO MAN cometh unto the Father, BUT BY ME.” — Jesus Christ (John 14:6)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on May 26, 2013, 03:18:03 am
What does he mean by "redeemed"? I think he's making a play on words, seeing one could say everybody is, one just has to repent and accept it. Big difference between redeemed, and accepting that redemption.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 27, 2013, 07:46:01 am
Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics

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Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio.

“They complain,” the Pope said in his homily, because they say, “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good.” And Jesus corrects them: “Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good.” The disciples, Pope Francis explains, “were a little intolerant,” closed off by the idea of ​​possessing the truth, convinced that “those who do not have the truth, cannot do good.” “This was wrong . . . Jesus broadens the horizon.” Pope Francis said, “The root of this possibility of doing good – that we all have – is in creation”

Pope Francis went further in his sermon to say:

"The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can... "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!".. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

Responding to the leader of the Roman Catholic church's homily, Father James Martin, S.J. wrote in an email to The Huffington Post:

"Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That's always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a "ransom for all." But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it's a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories."

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don't believe will be redeemed, and the Pope's words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

The pope's comment has also struck a chord on Reddit, where it is the second most-shared piece.

More from Reuters:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions - or no religion - work together.

The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning Mass in his residence, a daily event where he speaks without prepared comments.

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.

"Just do good and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."

Francis's reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/pope-francis-good-atheists_n_3320757.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 27, 2013, 07:57:43 am
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Using scripture from the Gospel of Mark, Francis explained how upset Jesus' disciples were that someone outside their group was doing good, according to a report from Vatican Radio.

“They complain,” the Pope said in his homily, because they say, “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good.” And Jesus corrects them: “Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good.” The disciples, Pope Francis explains, “were a little intolerant,” closed off by the idea of ​​possessing the truth, convinced that “those who do not have the truth, cannot do good.” “This was wrong . . . Jesus broadens the horizon.” Pope Francis said, “The root of this possibility of doing good – that we all have – is in creation”

Even this is a LIE. That is all that spues from this Antichrist. The passage has nothing to do with good works at all.

Mark 9:38 ¶ And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.


The Pope is a LIAR just like his Father the Devil.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 27, 2013, 09:04:08 am
Yeah, don't recall other Popes going THIS far, even though they too pushed the ecumenical movement.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on May 28, 2013, 04:08:06 am
Keep in mind that this pope is known to support exorcism.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 28, 2013, 04:35:55 am
Keep in mind that this pope is known to support exorcism.

You lost me on that one. Do you mean driving out demons or the show catholic priests and heretics and pagans put on?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 28, 2013, 11:04:44 am
You lost me on that one. Do you mean driving out demons or the show catholic priests and heretics and pagans put on?

http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,5312.msg35414.html#msg35414


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 28, 2013, 11:07:57 am
http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,5312.msg35414.html#msg35414

 ??? again...
You lost me on that one. Do you mean driving out demons or the show catholic priests and heretics and pagans put on?

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;


The reason the Catholic church is denyng that that was an exorcism, is because it didnt involve all the pagan platitudes that they add to it. The holy water, the tying the person down all of dog and poney show. Jesus and the apostles just said come out.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on May 28, 2013, 11:57:34 am
You lost me on that one. Do you mean driving out demons or the show catholic priests and heretics and pagans put on?

You know what I mean! The RCC does exorcism, while believers cast out demons by His Word, "Get thee hence!"


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 29, 2013, 10:15:13 am
Vatican corrects Pope: Atheists are still going to hell

After Pope Francis told the world even atheists can go to heaven, the Vatican issued a correction: Atheists are still going to hell.

The Vatican issued an “explanatory note on the meaning of “salvation,” on Thursday, May 23, after media reports circulated indicating that Pope Francis” promised heaven for everyone engaged in good works, including atheists.
 
In response to the media attention, the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who know about the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”
 
(Translation: Atheists are going to Hell if they don’t accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.)
 
Rosica also said that Francis had “no intention of provoking a theological debate on the nature of salvation,” during his homily on Wednesday.
 
The current theological confusion began after the leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made comments during the homily of his morning Mass on Wednesday, May 22, indicating that atheists would enjoy the fruits of eternal salvation if they were good people. Francis said:
 

The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!
 
We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter: we need that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.

http://www.examiner.com/article/vatican-corrects-pope-atheists-are-still-going-to-hell

 :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 29, 2013, 01:05:58 pm
Looks like Satan is rising up against himself...no surprise...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on May 29, 2013, 05:12:37 pm
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In response to the media attention, the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who know about the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”

So they correct the pope's doctrinal ignorance with heresy!  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 30, 2013, 05:50:44 am
So they correct the pope's doctrinal ignorance with heresy!  ::)

I know right, that is so funny.  :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 02, 2013, 05:34:29 am
Man Pope Prayed Over Still 'Possessed'

A 43-year-old Mexican father of two, who claims to be possessed by demons — and whom Pope Francis prayed over earlier this month in what some witnesses likened to a public exorcism — insists that he still has demons inside him.

Identified only as Angel V., the man told Spanish-language newspaper El Mundo that he had undergone some 30 exorcisms by 10 exorcists, including the renowned Roman exorcist Rev. Gabriel Amorth, who all tried unsuccessfully to free him from his affliction. The interview was reported in the Italian daily La Stampa.

“I still have the demons inside me, they have not gone away,” the man said, noting that he felt much better after the Pope prayed over him. El Mundo reported that the man is able to walk. He was in a wheelchair when he met Pope Francis on May 19 at the conclusion of Mass on Pentecost Sunday.

rest: http://www.newsmax.com/Newswidget/Pope-Excorcism-Possessed-Angel/2013/05/29/id/506975?promo_code=125BD-1&utm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on June 03, 2013, 04:22:25 am
In a wheelchair? Who said he needed a chair? Old school tent revival fakes use to do that, put people in chairs, then "heal" them, and have them stand up, making the audience think they were healed and can now walk!  ::)

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he had undergone some 30 exorcisms by 10 exorcists

Obviously scripture yet again is correct. Satan cannot cast out Satan!



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 03, 2013, 11:03:57 am
They are all fakes to begin with, but for the most part, they rarely ever mention the name of Jesus Christ. Remember that Asian missionary guy that went after me a couple of years ago - he started yelling in some crazy tongues(and he looked like he was in a trance), but not once did he ever mention Jesus Christ.(ie-at the end when he looked desperate, it looked like he yelled, "Get out! GET OUT!")

And of course he started out by telling my "sins" in front of the pastor - again, test the spirits by using the WHOLE council of God - he needed to come to me IN PRIVATE first. And when making an accusation like this, he also needed 1 or 2 other witnesses confirming the same thing.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 07, 2013, 12:37:15 pm
Francis gets personal: 'I didn't want to be pope'

Pope Francis has revealed that he never wanted to be pope and that he's living in the Vatican hotel for his "psychiatric" health.
 
Francis got very personal Friday as he met with thousands of children from Jesuit schools across Italy and Albania. Answering their questions one by one, Francis told them the decision to become a priest had been difficult for him and that he had suffered "moments of interior darkness" when "you feel dry, without interior joy."
 
But he said he went ahead because he loved Christ.
 
One of the most touching moments came when Teresa, a bright-eyed redhead no more than six, asked Francis flat out if he had wanted to be pope.
 
After joking around, Francis replied: "I didn't want to be pope."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-06-07-07-44-14


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on June 07, 2013, 01:48:31 pm
Hey Frank, you can quit!

All you need to do is fall to your knees and repent of that wickedness called the RCC, and walk away.

"Confess your faults..." I know you want to. Just walk out into St. Peter's Square and do it in front of God and the world, live on CNN.

And PLEASE put a match to those stupid silk slippers!  ::)

"...thy will be done..."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on June 08, 2013, 05:36:45 am
 :D Frank! :D That cracked me up! I could just see flames on those little slippers now! Spain has some nice leather wingtips AND they need the $! Flee the Vatican now!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on June 09, 2013, 02:42:29 am
 ;)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 11, 2013, 08:05:41 am
Francis could organise peace meeting between world’s three major religions, in Rome

Israeli government sources say the Pope spoke to President Shimon Peres in a meeting between Jews, Christians and Muslims, aimed at speaking out against violence. Rabbi Rosen has asked for steps to be taken to bring peace to the Holy Land

Israeli government sources claim Francis is apparently thinking of calling a meeting between leaders and faithful of the world’s three biggest monotheistic religions, in Rome, to launch a message of peace, countering violence and the use of God’s name to justify hatred and terrorist acts. The sources say the Pope announced his intention to call a meeting, during an Audience last 30 April. But there was no mention of this in the communiqué the Holy See’s issued after the Audience. 
 
President Peres “told the Pope that there are people who use God’s name to justify terrorism” and religious leaders should “say out loud that God did not give anyone permission to kill their neighbour.” According to the information contained in a summary of the Audience received by the Israeli government, Francis told Peres he “whole-heartedly supported” his appeal against violence and that “he wanted to promote a meeting between religious leaders and faithful of the three major religions” founded by Abraham, “in Rome”. The aim would be to “make people see” that the religions “oppose violence and terrorism.”
 
If these statements were indeed made during the Audience, it looks like the Pope is thinking about possible peace initiatives that would be restricted to the world’s three major monotheistic faiths. It would not be an interreligious meeting involving all faiths, like the Assisi gatherings organised by John Paul II and then by Benedict XVI in 2011. Readers will remember that in January 2002, just a few months after the 9/11 attacks in the U.S., Pope John Paul II convened a special meeting of religions in Assisi, in order to make it crystal clear that in no way could violence and terrorism be justified on theological grounds.
 
But in Israel, there are those who would like religions to nudge politicians to come up with viable solutions to the conflict in the Middle East. The President of the International Council of Christians and Jews (Iccj), Rabbi David Rosen, has asked the Pope to help leaders of the Jewish and Muslim religions to promote an initiative for peace in the Holy Land. Speaking to a group of Italian journalists, Rosen suggested the Pope convene a meeting between the Holy Land’s religious leaders, in Jerusalem, to pray for peace in the region. “2015 could be a perfect time to do this as it will mark the fiftieth anniversary of the promulgation of “Nostra Aetate”, the Second Vatican Council declaration on the Relation of the Church with Non-<wbr></wbr>Christian Religions”. The Rabbi said an initiative like this was important as it would “boost political efforts to resolve conflicts in the region.”

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/documents/detail/articolo/francesco-francis-francisco-25236/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 14, 2013, 10:31:24 am
Pope wades diplomatically into gay marriage debate
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-wades-diplomatically-gay-marriage-debate-125515261.html
6/14/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis waded diplomatically into the gay marriage debate Friday, telling the Archbishop of Canterbury he wants to work together to promote family values "based on marriage."

Francis, who vigorously opposed gay marriage in his native Argentina, and Archbishop Justin Welby chatted, prayed and had lunch together at the Vatican in their first encounter since both were installed in March.

Welby, the spiritual leader of the 77 million-strong Anglican Communion, has opposed legislation in Britain that would legalize gay marriage, saying it would undermine family life.

He appeared last week before the House of Lords before it moved the gay marriage bill a step closer to becoming law. The legislation would enable gay couples to get married in both civil and religious ceremonies in England and Wales.

In his remarks to Welby, Francis said he hoped they could collaborate in promoting the sacredness of life "and the stability of families founded on marriage." He noted that Welby had recently spoken out on the issue, a reference to his House of Lords testimony.

Significantly, though, Francis didn't say that marriage should be based on a union between a man and woman, which is how Benedict XVI and John Paul II routinely defined marriage.

Vatican officials said it was a diplomatic attempt to make his point without making a provocative pronouncement. Francis has steered clear of the gay marriage debate as it has recently roiled France and Britain, and in general has refrained from making headline-grabbing comments on hot-button current events.

As archbishop of Buenos Aires, however, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio didn't shy away from voicing strong opposition to gay marriage, though he was pragmatic in sensing Argentina was heading in that direction.

Realizing the church couldn't win the fight outright, Bergoglio urged his fellow Argentine bishops to lobby for gay civil unions instead, according to the then-cardinal's authorized biographer. The bishops shot down the proposal and the church lost the issue altogether when the South American nation legalized gay marriage in 2010 — the first country in the region to do so.

Bergoglio once called gay marriage an "anthropological step backward."

"If there's a private union, then third parties and society aren't affected," he wrote. "But if they're granted marriage rights and can adopt, there could be children affected. Every person needs a masculine father and a feminine mother to help them settle their identity."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on June 16, 2013, 08:52:16 pm
Giant motorcycle gang pays homagevto the Pope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihtxkz2qrQA&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 17, 2013, 06:48:47 am
that was soooooo stupid. but hey, we are talking about an organization that worships a cookie as god.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 14, 2013, 12:24:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFFP9M_ayTI


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 16, 2013, 04:05:03 am
http://www.chick.com/bc/2013/newpope.asp
New Pope; Same Old Deception
 Issue Date: July/August 2013

Common to the popes is a strong thread of ecumenism: the thrust to unify all religions, including “Christians.” Evangelical leaders have swallowed the bait, working together on “common causes” such as abortion, biblical marriage, and sanctity of life.

This cooperation clouded the anti-Christ factors of: salvation by works, pope’s authority as Christ’s vice president on earth (Vicar), purgatory, priestcraft hierarchy, and worship of the wafer god and the Virgin Mary goddess. Even though Roman Catholicism has all the features used to define cults such as Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses, Evangelicals have bought the lie that it is just another “denomination,” with a different worship style.

Christianity Today headlined an article, “A Pope for All Christians,” just before Francis was elected. In it is a quote about Catholic-Evangelical relations by Brian Stiller, a global ambassador for the World Evangelical Alliance: “Not in 500 years have the two sides been so close and friendly.” The tone of the article is clearly that we are all Christians with a common gospel and brotherhood. “Whether we Protestants like to admit it or not, though, there is a single person in Rome who can influence Christians of every stripe to work more heartily in the cause of Christ…,” the article concludes.

Now that he has the Protestants in his pocket, the new pope went on to make an astounding statement in a recent speech: “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace.”

This is a bold disregard of a huge block of scriptures that draw a clear line between believers and unbelievers. Redemption is what happens to believers only. It is offered to unbelievers, but if they reject it they remain unredeemed sinners no matter how much “good” they do. It is clear that this pope plans to continue the campaigning of previous popes to become the head of the coming one-world religion. This modern push for ecumenism began in earnest at the Second Ecumenical Council at the Vatican during the early 1960s.

Having failed to blunt the Reformation by inquisition and world wars, Rome decided to try the honey of deception. A world-wide campaign began to seduce the Protestants into believing that Catholicism was just another denomination.

Now that that is accomplished, the push is on to bring in the other religions. In 2011, Pope Benedict held a fourth meeting in Assisi, France, of delegates of a dozen world religions from Muslim to Hindu to Yoruba. Pope John Paul II had hosted similar meetings in 1986, 1993 and 2002 to pray together and discuss world peace.

From the above quotes, it is obvious that Pope Francis is continuing to push this “unity,” sacrificing the Bible along the way. With a Jesuit pope in place we can expect a renewed drive by the Jesuits of their agenda to bring all religions under the authority of the papacy.

Few voices are raised today against this prostitute “church,” identified in Revelation 17 and 18. Many years ago Jack Chick was led to pick up the Reformation’s message that the Vatican was the **** of Revelation. Several tracts, books and comics are now available in our catalog and on the chick.com website.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on July 16, 2013, 04:10:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFFP9M_ayTI

not surprising, he has the spirit of an antichrist


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 22, 2013, 01:27:29 am
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/07/21/Francis-Gay-Scandal
7/21/13
Report: Pope Francis Appointee Has History of Gay Affairs

There’s a fresh set of scandalous tales circulating around the Vatican.

Depending on whom you ask, it’s either the infamous “gay lobby” scrubbing the personnel records of a misbehaving priest to protect one of their own, or it’s opponents of Pope Francis’ efforts at reform – who may or may not be members of the infamous “gay lobby” – whipping up falsehoods about a priest who only wants to help Francis hose out dirty dealing from the Institute for Works of Religion, aka the “Vatican bank.”

Both options are unsavory, and neither one bodes well for the 76-year-old Argentinian-born pope’s aim of stamping out corruption in the heart of the Roman Catholic Church – or for the Church’s ongoing troubles with dishonorable and dishonest priests who neither take seriously its moral teachings nor their sacred vows.

On July 18, Sandro Magister, a longtime, respected reporter on Vatican issues, published a piece in the weekly L’Espresso magazine, titled “The Prelate of the Gay Lobby.”

In it, he claimed that 57-year-old Monsignor Battista Ricca, a veteran Vatican diplomat recently appointed by Pope Francis to serve as his representative, or “prelate,” at the Vatican bank, has long been living a not-very-secret double life.

According to Magister, Ricca was serving in Bern, Switzerland, when he met Patrick Haari, a captain of the Swiss army (NOT a member of the Vatican’s Swiss Guard, as has been widely reported). The article states Ricca brought Haari with him when he was sent to Montevideo, Uruguay, in 1999, where they carried on a rather public relationship, during which Ricca secured a job for Haari.

Magister reports that Ricca’s conduct scandalized religious and laity in Uruguay, and that a new papal nuncio (the head of a diplomatic mission of the Holy See), Janusz Bolonek of Poland, unsuccessfully tried to eject Haari.

In addition, the article cites reports in 2001 of Ricca being beaten after visiting a meeting place for gays, and also getting trapped in an elevator with what is suspected to have been a male prostitute.

Magister asserts that Nuncio Bolonek wanted Ricca out and Haari fired, and that the Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, agreed. Ricca went to Trinidad and Tobago. He remained there until 2004 and reportedly didn’t fare much better at getting along with the local nuncio. So, he finally returned to the Vatican.

There, Ricca held a number of administrative positions, acquiring, according to Magister, a reputation in the media as an “incorruptible moralizer.” Then in 2006, he took over management of different clerical residences in Rome, including Saint Martha’s House, where Pope Francis has been living.

According to Magister, the new pontiff hadn’t heard of the scandals surrounding Ricca and saw nothing to give him concern in the man’s Vatican personnel folder.

Magister says that some of the pope’s senior advisers, or “bosses,” as he puts it, have “hatched against Jorge Mario Bergoglio the cruelest and most subtle deception since he was elected pope.

“They kept in the dark important information that, had he known it before, would have kept him from appointing Monsignor Battista Ricca ‘prelate’ of the Institute for the Works of Religion.”

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi – a Jesuit, like Pope Francis – fired back at Magister, calling the report “not credible.”

Also, Matteo Matzuzzi, who writes for the Italian newspaper Il Foglio, quoted Lombardi on Twitter as saying that “Pope Francis is aware of the accusations made against Msgr. Ricca but has decided to keep him in his position,” and that “The pope has not had the chance to verify whether the accusations against Msgr. Ricca were consistent or not.”

For those that read Italian, the original tweets read, “P.Lombardi: ‘#PapaFrancesco è a conoscenza delle accuse mosse a mons. Ricca, ma ha deciso di lasciarlo al suo posto’” and “P.Lombardi: ‘Il #Papa ha avuto modo di verificare se le accuse a mons. Ricca fossero consistenti o meno’.”

Incidentally, since Francis is about to leave for Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, for several days to preside over the mass gathering of young Catholic pilgrims called World Youth Day, it seems likely he would defer any major decisions until he gets back. So, keeping Ricca in place for now may or may not be an indication of his ultimate fate.

L’Espresso fired back quickly at Lombardi with this statement:

To Father Lombardi, who defines as 'not trustworthy' what was published regarding Msgr. Ricca, L'Espresso replies reaffirming point by point the facts referred by Sandro Magister in his piece, confirmed by several primary sources and, as a whole, considered at the time of such gravity by the same Vatican authorities that forced them to remove the Monsignor from the Uruguay nunciature, in which he rendered his service, giving scandal to bishops, priests, religious and lay persons in that country.

It can be added that the Vatican authorities, instead of making up improbable and ad-lib denials, could verify the trustworthiness of all that was published by L'Espresso by simply consulting the exhaustive documentation in their possession on the affair, in particular that related to his time in the Montevideo nunciature. Further documentation is available from the Uruguayan authorities, from security forces to fire brigades. Not to mention the numerous bishops, priests, religious, laymen in Uruguay who were direct witnesses of the scandal and are ready to speak.

In a post on July 19, Vatican journalist John L. Allen Jr. of the National Catholic Reporter – which, aside from the respected Allen, has a reputation of being generally more sympathetic to liberal dissidents against the Church than orthodox Catholics – quoted a “senior Vatican official” as saying on background that “the pope has listened to everyone and has confidence in Ricca.”

Francis’s aim of reforming the Vatican bank is a serious endeavor. Italian authorities arrested a former Vatican accountant on charges he was involved in smuggling $26 million worth of euros.

Pope Francis has already accepted the resignations of two top administrators at the bank, who are facing a civil investigation in Italy for allegedly laundering money.

The pope has also established a lay commission to survey inner workings of Vatican departments, find ways to battle corruption and favoritism, and to make the finances more transparent and efficient.

In a statement, the Vatican said the goal is “the simplification and rationalization of the existing bodies and more careful planning of the economic activities of all the administrations.”

As to the two possible explanations for the Ricca affair listed above, Damian Thompson of Britain’s The Telegraph quoted from an email newsletter written by Vatican expert – and the author of a new book about Pope Francis – Dr. Robert Moynihan, which outlines Ricca’s good reputation at the Vatican in recent years and the monsignor’s growing relationship with Francis over meals at St. Martha’s House.

Moynihan believes this could be Francis’ first real crisis, writing:

I have been a Vaticanist for a quarter century. In those years, I have seen many cases when what seems to be true at first glance is not the truth, or not the whole truth. There is information, and there is disinformation. There are maneuvers to gain influence or to ward off change. This can even include discrediting a person with false charges. We must be very attentive to weigh all evidence and to ask: Is it true? Who provided the evidence? For what purpose or goal? Why now? And, could the facts have a more innocent explanation than appears at first glance? In short, we have to be cautious, and careful, and fair.

American writer and editor Rod Dreher, writing in “The American Conservative” on July 19, blamed the incident on the “lavender mafia,” and wrote:

I don’t know anything about Ricca, but the process outlined here is very familiar. It’s the kind of thing Church insiders — priests, especially — talk about privately, but not in public, and definitely not on the record. In this case, it’s crystal clear that other Vatican insiders who are sick and tired of this garbage leaked the Ricca files to Magister, one of the top Vatican journalists and commentators. Now we will see what Pope Francis will do.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 25, 2013, 09:59:28 am
Religion News: Pope Francis travels Brazil without bulletproof Popemobile

http://www.tauntongazette.com/religion/x1815312865/Religion-News-Pope-Francis-travels-Brazil-without-bulletproof-Popemobile

Wonder what Tom Horn would say if something did happen?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 25, 2013, 10:05:35 am
Religion News: Pope Francis travels Brazil without bulletproof Popemobile

http://www.tauntongazette.com/religion/x1815312865/Religion-News-Pope-Francis-travels-Brazil-without-bulletproof-Popemobile

Wonder what Tom Horn would say if something did happen?

Yeah, he's sure setting himself up.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 29, 2013, 07:04:47 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-gays-must-not-judged-marginalized-110838664.html
Pope says gays must not be judged or marginalized
7/29/13

ROME (Reuters) - Pope Francis, in some of the most compassionate words from any pontiff on gays, said they should not be judged or marginalized and should be integrated into society, but he reaffirmed Church teaching that homosexual acts are a sin.

In a broad-ranging 80-minute conversation with journalists on the plane bringing him back from a week-long visit to Brazil, Francis also said the Roman Catholic Church's ban on women priests was definitive, although he would like them to have more leadership roles in administration and pastoral activities.

Francis defended gays from discrimination in what was his first news conference since being elected pontiff in March, but also referred to the Catholic Church's universal Catechism, which says that while homosexual orientation is not sinful homosexual acts are.

"If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge him?" the pope said.

"The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well. It says they should not be marginalized because of this (orientation) but that they must be integrated into society," he said, speaking in Italian.

"The problem is not having this orientation. We must be brothers. The problem is lobbying by this orientation, or lobbies of greedy people, political lobbies, Masonic lobbies, so many lobbies. This is the worse problem," he said.

Francis was answering a question about reports of a "gay lobby" in the Vatican.

"You see a lot written about the gay lobby. I still have not seen anyone in the Vatican with an identity card saying they are gay," he joked.

Addressing the issue of women priests, the pope said, "The Church has spoken and says 'no' ... that door is closed." It was the first time he had spoken in public on the subject.

"We cannot limit the role of women in the Church to altar girls or the president of a charity, there must be more ...," he said in answer to a question during a remarkably frank conversation with Vatican journalists.

"But with regards to the ordination of women, the Church has spoken and says no. Pope John Paul said so with a formula that was definitive. That door is closed," he said referring to a document by the late pontiff which said the ban was part of the infallible teaching of the Church.

The Church teaches that it cannot ordain women because Jesus willingly chose only men as his apostles. Advocates of a female priesthood say he was acting according to the customs of his times.

Many in the Church, even those who oppose a female priesthood, say women should be given leadership roles in the Church and the Vatican administration.

Francis arrived back in Rome on Monday after a triumphant week-long tour of Brazil which climaxed with a huge gathering on Rio de Janeiro's famed Copacabana beach for a world Catholic youth festival which organizers estimated to have attracted more than 3 million people.

(Reporting By Philip Pullella; editing by Barry Moody)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 29, 2013, 07:12:08 am
^^

Mat 5:27  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


James 2:10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12  So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 29, 2013, 07:26:33 am
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church

 :D guess that is the WHOLE problem right there.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 29, 2013, 08:18:52 am
Pope says he won't judge gay priests

ABOARD THE PAPAL AIRCRAFT (July 29, 2013) - Pope Francis is indicating a more accepting attitude towards homosexuality.

In an interview aboard the papal aircraft today, he said he won't judge priests for their sexual orientation. In a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference the pope says, "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"
 
Francis' predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Francis has been much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.
 
 Francis' remarks came today during a plane journey back to the Vatican from his first foreign trip in Brazil.

 - See more at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/religion/pope-says-he-wont-judge-gay-priests#sthash.hEKT0P9k.dpuf

All those pontiff ped0philes are rejoicing right now


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 29, 2013, 08:24:28 am
Heh - I wonder if FOX News and these "religious right" figures like Charles Stanley, Pat Robertson, Hal Lindsey, Ralph Reed, etc will expose this! ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 29, 2013, 02:36:51 pm
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/29/19755943-popes-remarks-seen-as-good-step-toward-inclusion
7/29/13
Pope's remarks seen as good step toward inclusion

Pope Francis’ comments Monday about gays triggered welcome reactions -- though most observers said his remarks merely reflected a tone of openness that he has set for his papacy and not a change in policy.

“If a person is gay, and looks for the Lord and had goodwill, who am I to judge them?” the pontiff said at a news conference in which he addressed the reports of a "gay lobby" within the Vatican.

Mary Ellen Lopata, who co-founded Fortunate Families, a networking ministry with Catholic parents of LGBT children, said it was a “refreshing statement after years of hearing less welcoming statements from church leadership” and called it a “good first step to understanding and love.

“I sense what he is saying is that we are all children of God and we need to treat each other that way regardless of our sexual orientation,” she said. “If that is indeed what he is saying, I think that is a good step forward for reconciling with gay and lesbian people around the world, and also their families.

"Much that’s been said in past years by church leaders has been very hurtful not only to gay and lesbian people but to their families as well.”

But Mark Dowd, a former Dominican friar in the U.K. who left the church partly because he fell in love with a former friar, doubted the comments represented a significant shift in the church, saying it made “a nice headline” and not much else.

“On a scale of zero to 10 about where we need to be, that’s moving from about zero to three as opposed to nine or ten,” said Dowd, a freelance broadcaster specializing in religion.

The official position of the Catholic Church on the issue is that while homosexual desires or attractions are not in themselves sinful, the physical acts are.

The pontiff’s remarks made for “good common ground,” said Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of Dignity USA, a group of LGBT Catholics.

“If someone loves the Lord and has goodwill -- the reality of that describes an awful lot of LGBT people,” she said. “There are a lot of LGBT people of faith who are working very hard to hold onto their faith and I think it would be important for us to bring our stories to the pope and other church leaders to move this conversation forward.”

A key step would be bridging the gap between some church leaders who engage in anti-gay rhetoric and their parishioners, many whom support LGBT rights, Duddy-Burke said. Fifty-four percent of Catholics support same-sex marriage, according to a Pew Forum poll released earlier this year.

“If Francis can be an instrument in healing that divide, we would certainly welcome that and are happy to partner with him,” she said, while noting that only time would tell what impact his remarks would have on daily life.

“How many times in recent months have we seen bishops indicate a willingness to look at the question of civil unions or some sort of legal recognition of same-sex couples (but) only a day or two later they have been forced to retract their statements? Will that happen with the pope? I don’t know, but I would hope that certainly even a change of tone or an indication of openness to discussing these issues is helpful," Duddy-Burke said.

LGBT advocacy groups recalled the pope’s speaking out against same-sex marriage in Argentina – where he was an archbishop and cardinal -- as well as the right for gay couples to adopt.

“This pope had a much more difficult relationship with gay people and the work to end anti-gay discrimination when he was in Argentina but since assuming the papacy he seems to be opening his heart and moving in the right direction,” said Evan Wolfson, president of Freedom to Marry.

“Certainly to have this kind of statement coming from the pope should create much more political space for decision makers (rather) than the constant pressure to discriminate that we heard from prior popes.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 29, 2013, 02:39:54 pm
Not that I endorse the previous Popes, but none of them said anything along the lines of the current one.
http://living.msn.com/love-relationships/the-heart-beat-blog-post?post=435953ed-4b60-4017-ac88-9f5798b21397


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on July 29, 2013, 04:10:18 pm
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“If a person is gay, and looks for the Lord and had goodwill, who am I to judge them?” the pontiff said at a news conference in which he addressed the reports of a "gay lobby" within the Vatican.

And THAT folks is the problem. They don't judge even though they are caught up in serving the law of works, which law demands judgement at the house of God, to root out false brethren and false doctrines, to separate them from the body of believers till such a time they repent. They are free to act up elsewhere, but not around the body of Christ. But then the RCC is not the body of Christ, but is of the world, so it stands to reason they don't judge, or else they must judge themselves, and they won't do that because their deeds are in fact evil.

"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved." John 3:20 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 29, 2013, 04:26:15 pm
http://lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-pope-homosexuality-and-abortion-in.html
7/29/13
The Pope, Homosexuality and Abortion in Brazil

As reported by Daily Mail, “The pope has said that he ‘will not judge’ gay priests. Speaking to reporters on a flight back from his week-long visit to sexually permissive Brazil, Pope Francis said he ‘would not stand in judgment’ of gays in the Vatican and that they should not be discriminated against. The pontiff’s remarks about gays mark a more conciliatory approach than his predecessor. Benedict signed a document in 2005 saying that men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests.”

Speech about not judging gay priests is a surprise, considering that the massive scandal involving pedophilia in the Catholic Church is largely linked to homosexuality among priests.

But the bigger surprise, at least to pro-life leaders in Brazil, is that socialist Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff is about to sign into law a pro-abortion bill, and the pope did not address any specific message about this urgent situation in Brazil. He left Brazil without speaking up against this imminent threat.

How can now Rousseff be pressured by pro-life Catholics and evangelicals when even the pope showed no willingness to tackle directly the abortion issue?

As an evangelical Christian, I think that the pope could make his controversial remark on homosexuality in another time. The absolute priority right now is to speak up against the imminence of abortion legalization in Brazil.

Why did not he speak?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 30, 2013, 11:36:52 am
7 things you need to know about what Pope Francis said about gays

The press is buzzing right now with claims that Pope Francis has taken a sharply different line than his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, on the subject of homosexuality.
 
Some are suggesting that the new pope has announced that "gay is okay."
 
What did Pope Francis really say, and how unusual is it?
 
Here are 7 things to know and share . . .
 
 
 
1) Where did Pope Francis make these remarks?
 
He made them during an 80-minute interview with reporters aboard the plane returning from World Youth Day in Brazil.
 
 
 
2) What was he asked that led to the remarks?
 
We may not know exactly what the question was until a transcript is released, but apparently, he was asked about the reputed "gay lobby" at the Vatican.
 
More info on that here.
 
 
 
3) What exactly did he say?
 
According to the best current accounts, he said:
 
There's a lot of talk about the gay lobby, but I've never seen it on the Vatican ID card.
 
When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn't be marginalized. The tendency [i.e., same-sex attraction] is not the problem ... they're our brothers.
 
UPDATE: Here is a fuller presentation of the exchange. Big hat tip to Salt and Light!
 
The Question to Pope Francis from Ilse, a journalist on the Papal flight
 
Ilse: I would like to ask permission to pose a rather delicate question.  Another image that went around the world is that of Monsignor Ricca and the news about his personal life.  I would like to know, your Holiness, what will be done about this question.  How should one deal with this question and how does your Holiness wish to deal with the whole question of the gay lobby?
 
The Pope’s Answer
 
Regarding the matter of Monsignor Ricca, I did what Canon Law required and did the required investigation.  And from the investigation, we did not find anything corresponding to the accusations against him.  We found none of that.  That is the answer.  But I would like to add one more thing to this: I see that so many times in the Church, apart from this case and also in this case, one  looks for the “sins of youth,” for example, is it not thus?, And then these things are published.  These things are not crimes.  The crimes are something else: child abuse is a crime.  But sins, if a person, or secular priest or a nun, has committed a sin and then that person experienced conversion, the Lord forgives and when the Lord forgives, the Lord forgets and this is very important for our lives.  When we go to confession and we truly say “I have sinned in this matter,” the Lord forgets and we do not have the right to not forget because we run the risk that the Lord will not forget our sins, eh?  This is a danger.  This is what is important: a theology of sin.  So many times I think of St. Peter: he committed one of the worst sins denying Christ.  And with this sin they made him Pope.  We must think about fact often.
 
But returning to your question more concretely: in this case [Ricca] I did the required investigation and we found nothing.  That is the first question.  Then you spoke of the gay lobby.  Agh… so much is written about the gay lobby.  I have yet to find on a Vatican identity card the word gay.  They say there are some gay people here.  I think that when we encounter a gay person, we must make the distinction between the fact of a person being gay and the fact of a lobby, because lobbies are not good.  They are bad.  If a person is gay and seeks the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge that person?  The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this point beautifully but says, wait a moment, how does it say, it says, these persons must never be marginalized and “they must be integrated into society.”
 
The problem is not that one has this tendency; no, we must be brothers, this is the first matter.  There is another problem, another one: the problem is to form a lobby of those who have this tendency, a lobby of the greedy people, a lobby of politicians, a lobby of Masons, so many lobbies.  This is the most serious problem for me. And thank you so much for doing this question. Thank you very much!
 
Original Italian at the link.
 
 
 
4) What does this mean?
 
The first part of the statement seems to downplay the who "gay lobby" issue. He's not denying that there is one there, but he's suggesting that the talk is somewhat overblown.
 
He then explains his approach to dealing with gay people: He distinguishes between their "being gay" and "being part of a lobby."
 
What he means by "being gay" is something he further unpacks.
 
In ordinary parlance, "being gay" can mean anything from having same-sex attraction to leading an active "gay lifestyle" to endorsing and advocating a pro-homosexual ideology.
 
The last of these would be functioning as a member of a lobby, and he indicates that this is not what he is talking about.
 
He then describes those he is talking about as people who "accept the Lord and have goodwill."
 
He then seems to further clarify who he is talking about by saying that "The tendency [i.e., same-sex attraction] is not the problem ... they're our brothers."
 
Taking his statements together, what emerges is a portrait of individuals who have same-sex attraction but who nevertheless accept the Lord and have goodwill, as opposed to working to advance a pro-homosexual ideology.
 
This would definitely include people with same-sex attraction who strive to live chastely (even if they sometimes fail).
 
It also, possibly, could include individuals who are not living chastely but who are not actively lobbying a homosexual agenda. It would be nice if he'd said a little more to clarify the point further.
 
 
 
5) What does he say about people in this category?
 
He says that he does not think he is in a position to judge them and that they should not be marginalized.
 
He also says that the mere tendency (same-sex attraction) "is not the problem," and that "they're our brothers."
 
 
 
6) How new is this?
 
Not very.
 
Disclaiming a right to "judge" others is something that goes back to Jesus. It does not mean a failure to recognize the moral character of others' actions, however.
 
One can form a moral appraisal that what someone else is doing is wrong (Jesus obviously does not forbid that) without having or showing malice toward them.
 
The statement that they should not be marginalized is similarly in keeping with the Holy See's approach to the subject, as 1986 Vatican document On the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons.
 
The statement that same-sex attraction "is not the problem," when understood correctly, is also nothing new. "The problem," as Pope Francis seems to here be understanding it, is going beyond merely having a sinful tendency--a temptation to which one is subject.
 
Obviously, temptations are problem, but if we resist temptation we do not sin. "The problem," on this understanding, is giving into the temptation and sinning or--worse--building an ideology around the sin and trying to advocate the sin.
 
Finally, the statement that "they're our brothers" is also no novelty. Christians, like everyone, have struggled with every sort of temptation all through history.
 
Same-sex attraction is just one temptation among numerous others, and the fact that a person suffers from this temptation no more deprives him of the status of being a brother in Christ than any other temptation does.
 
 
 
7) How different is any of this compared to Pope Benedict?
 
The press has been (as usual) trying to make unfavorable comparisons to Pope Benedit, noting that during his time the Holy See issued a document saying that those with deep-seated homosexual tendencies should not be ordained to the priesthood.
 
Pope Francis did not mention that document or its policy and so has done nothing different than Benedict there.
 
Neither are any of Francis's remarks contrary to the approach Benedict took during his pontificate.
 
In fact, Benedict himself (as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger) was the signer of the previosly-mentioned letter on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons, as well as the follow-up document on non-discrimination regarding homosexual persons.
 
So, as usual, the press is painting a false picture by contrasting the "good" Francis and the "bad" Benedict.


http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/7-things-you-need-to-know-about-what-pope-francis-said-about-gays?utm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 30, 2013, 11:54:49 am
Pope Frankie's words were said in a VERY crafty manner - even the bible warns numerous times over these kinds of people that use their words in crafty manners.

Eph_4:14  That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

2Cor 4:2  But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on July 30, 2013, 01:50:09 pm
"not walking in craftiness", yeah that's one that churchianity needs to learn and apply. They think they are cute with their little stunts to draw attention to the buildings, but in reality, it's a lack of faith, and they do it being crafty because they ultimately want the people drawn in for money, yet the pitch is they want to save souls.

There is a subtle but big difference between wanting people to be saved, and wanting to save people!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 11, 2013, 01:19:48 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/video/pope-reaches-muslims-151933388.html
Pope reaches out to Muslims
8/11/13

Pope Francis offers greetings to Muslims around the world to mark Eid al-Fitr, calling for Christians and Muslims to work towards "mutual respect".


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on August 12, 2013, 03:48:34 am
I have ZERO respect for evil. Period.

They can either repent and accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour, or burn in hell.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 15, 2013, 03:52:44 pm
Video: http://news.yahoo.com/video/pope-prays-peace-dialog-reconciliation-151112235.html
Pope prays for 'peace, dialog, reconciliation' in Egypt
8/15/13

Pope Francis called reports that more that more than 500 people were killed in Egypt 'painful' and urged Catholics to pray for an end to the violence. Deborah Gembara reports.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: McChristian on August 20, 2013, 07:30:29 pm
I don't buy into this idea. Roman Catholicism never was or will ever be Biblical Christianity. Roman Catholic Popes are all, and will ever be, Antichrists. The secular world was chomping on this conspiracy. While Satan can deceive them, I think he thinks he's better off starting from scratch with someone else other then Pope Francis.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on August 22, 2013, 10:00:46 am
Former Pope Benedict Resigned Because 'God Told Me To'

In his first statement to the press since stepping down from the papacy in February, 86-year-old former pope Benedict has said he left his office because God directed him to.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/former-pope-benedict-resigned-because-god-told-me-to-102716/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 22, 2013, 10:43:05 am
Former Pope Benedict Resigned Because 'God Told Me To'

In his first statement to the press since stepping down from the papacy in February, 86-year-old former pope Benedict has said he left his office because God directed him to.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/former-pope-benedict-resigned-because-god-told-me-to-102716/

What is it with all these people saying, "But God told me...", but then they say NOTHING what SCRIPTURE says. ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 27, 2013, 06:09:53 pm
http://www.petra.gov.jo/Public_News/Nws_NewsDetails.aspx?Site_Id=1&lang=2&NewsID=122028&CatID=13&Type=Home&GType=1

King to visit Vatican Wednesday 
 
Amman, August 27 (Petra) -- His Majesty King Abdullah II and Her Majesty Queen Rania Al-Abdullah, will Wednesday visit the Vatican and meet with Pope Francis for talks on bilateral relations and ways of cementing them.

The meeting will also deal with ways to promote Muslim-Christian cooperation, dialogue and coexistence in addition to the latest developments in the region.

//Petra// AA
27/8/2013 - 09:23:01 PM 


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 29, 2013, 11:13:32 am
http://www.newsmaxworld.com/newswidget/pope-****-victim-call/2013/08/28/id/522584?promo_code=137AF-1&utm_source=137AFTimes_of_Israel&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1
Argentina **** Victim Stunned by Phone Call From Pope
Wednesday, 28 Aug 2013 04:58 AM

Alejandra Pereyra, 44, said she felt she had been “touched by the hand of God” after receiving the phone call from Pope Francis.

Pereyra wrote to the Pope, who was archbishop of Buenos Aires before being elected pontiff in March, about 10 days ago. She said that after she had been raped by a policeman, Argentinean authorities tried to suppress her complaint and that the perpetrator had received a promotion.

She was amazed to hear from the 76-year-old Pope personally when he called her on Sunday using a landline from the Vatican.

“My mobile phone rang and when I asked who it was, he responded, ’The Pope’,” Pereyra told an Argentinean television network. “I just froze.”

They talked for approximately 30 minutes, during which time they discussed issues of “faith and trust,” according to the London Daily Telegraph.

“The Pope listened to what I said with much attention,” she said. “He told me that I was not alone and that I must have faith in the justice system.”

The Pope “told me that he receives thousands of letters a day but that the one that I wrote had touched his heart,” Pereyra added.

She said she would “do everything possible” to travel to Rome to meet the Pope in person.

“He said he would receive me,” said Pereyra, who comes from Rio Segundo, located about 450 miles northwest of Buenos Aires.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 31, 2013, 12:22:49 pm
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/asr8dTSoSGBIv.od4DEDDQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTQyMTtweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz03NDk-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/photo_1377948166774-1-HD.jpg)

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-replaces-divisive-vatican-figure-top-diplomat-112655615.html
Pope replaces divisive Vatican figure with top diplomat
8/31/13

Pope Francis on Saturday appointed a senior Vatican diplomat as his new secretary of state, ousting divisive cardinal Tarcisio Bertone as he looks to overhaul the Church's scandal-ridden administration.

His replacement for the "number two" position at the Vatican, Italian cleric Pietro Parolin, is currently the Roman Catholic Church's envoy to Venezuela and has worked on improving ties with communist China.

"The Holy Father has accepted... the resignation of His Eminence Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone," the Vatican said in a widely-expected announcement, adding that the changeover would formally take place on October 15.

At 58, Parolin is seen as relatively youthful for top Vatican office and observers say he could help a process of renewal within the church, as well as making it more influential on the world stage.

Parolin is the youngest cleric to occupy the Vatican "prime minister" post since Eugenio Pacelli, another diplomat who was appointed secretary of state in 1930 at the age of 53 and went on to become Pius XII.

The Argentine pope has shown a strong reformist drive in his first few months in office and has set up a series of committees aimed at reforming the Vatican hierarchy, its economic affairs and its bank.

"I feel the full weight of the responsibility placed upon me: this call entrusts to me a difficult and challenging mission," Parolin said in a statement.

He was previously a Vatican envoy to Mexico and Nigeria and has worked on sensitive issues for the Church, including diplomatic relations with Israel.

The secretary of state is considered the top political and diplomatic position in the Vatican and in some instances the incumbent can stand in for the pope.

Three secretaries of states have gone on to be popes.

Bertone has held the post since 2006 when he was named by the pope's predecessor, Benedict XVI, and has proved a highly controversial figure in the hierarchy.

Leaks by Benedict XVI's butler last year revealed infighting between pro- and anti-Bertone factions.

"Bertone, in the eyes of his critics, acted more as czar than diplomat-in-chief," John Thavis, a Vatican affairs expert, wrote on his blog.

He was at Benedict's side in a traumatic period for the church, shaken by revelations of widespread child abuse by priests and scandals involving its finances.

Francis has circumvented the Secretariat of State, effectively the central administration and foreign ministry of the church, on key recent decisions.

While some observers have seen signs of tensions, it is also common for new popes to replace some of the officials appointed by their predecessors and the 78-year-old Bertone was already over the usual age of retirement of 75 for senior church figures.

Archbishop Parolin was ordained in 1980 and his first foreign posting for the Vatican was in Nigeria in 1986, followed by Mexico in 1989 where he fought to gain legal recognition for the Catholic Church.

In 1992, he was called back to Rome to work for the Secretariat of State and was appointed to a position equivalent to a deputy foreign minister in 2002.

In 2009, he was appointed papal nuncio to Caracas.

Parolin "has been on the frontlines of shaping the Vatican's response to virtually every geopolitical challenge of the past two decades," said John Allen, who writes for the US National Catholic Reporter.

"By naming a consummate insider, Francis appears to want to 'reboot' the Vatican's operating system".

The Vatican also said it was confirming some top Secretariat of State officials named by Benedict, as well as the previous pope's close aide Georg Gaenswein who will remain as head of the pontifical household.

Gaenswein is still secretary to Benedict, who lives in retirement in a former monastery inside the Vatican walls, and will therefore continue an unprecedented dual role serving both the pope emeritus and the pope.




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 31, 2013, 12:26:33 pm
His replacement for the "number two" position at the Vatican, Italian cleric Pietro Parolin, is currently the Roman Catholic Church's envoy to Venezuela and has worked on improving ties with communist China.


Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking? This man's first name is Pietro? As in Pietro Romanos aka Peter the Roman?

No, I'm not being 100% about this, but a youtube video presentation just occured to me that was posted here 2 years ago that exposed this very person.(the guy that made the video I think worked with Mike Slattery, who is one of Scott's close FL friends)

Although I had a few doctrinal issues with the guy who made the video, I thought he did his research on this.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 31, 2013, 02:34:05 pm
Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking? This man's first name is Pietro? As in Pietro Romanos aka Peter the Roman?

No, I'm not being 100% about this, but a youtube video presentation just occured to me that was posted here 2 years ago that exposed this very person.(the guy that made the video I think worked with Mike Slattery, who is one of Scott's close FL friends)

Although I had a few doctrinal issues with the guy who made the video, I thought he did his research on this.

Here we go - this was the video that was posted here a couple of years ago discussing this guy. Yes, while I liked it(personally), I don't endorse it. And am only posting Part 1(of 16) here to show the youtube guy that made a presentation out of it. Again, the doctrinal issue I have with it is that he called the Pope the Antichrist and America the False Prophet(although he only eluded to it briefly without discussing it) - no, don't think he's a 7th Day Adventist(7DAs generally have this escatology belief).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8E9_V8r7y8


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 02, 2013, 01:41:57 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-announces-day-fasting-peace-syria-124014556.html
Pope announces day of fasting for peace for Syria
9/1/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Sunday condemned the use of chemical weapons, but he called for a negotiated settlement of the civil war in Syria, and announced he would lead a worldwide day of fasting and prayer for peace there on Sept. 7.

Francis abandoned the traditional religious theme of the weekly papal appearance to crowds in St. Peter's Square and instead spoke entirely, and with anguish, about Syria.

"My heart is deeply wounded by what is happening in Syria and anguished by the dramatic developments" on the horizon, Francis said, in an apparent reference to the U.S. and France considering a military strike to punish the Syrian regime for a chemical weapons attack.

Francis reiterated previous appeals for all sides in the civil war to put down their arms and "listen to the voice of their conscience and with courage take up the way of negotiations."

With tens of thousands of people in the square applauding his words, Francis delivered his strongest remarks yet to express his horror at the use of chemical weapons.

"With utmost firmness, I condemn the use of chemical weapons. I tell you that those terrible images from recent days are burned into my mind and heart," the pope said, in an apparent reference to photos and TV images of victims of chemical weapons in Syria.

"There is the judgment of God, and also the judgment of history, upon our actions," he said, "from which there is no escaping."

Usually soft-spoken, Francis raised his voice as he declared, "War brings on war! Violence brings on violence."

His admonishment against resorting to arms as a solution recalled the repeated emotional implorations a decade ago by the late Pope John Paul II in a vain attempt to persuade the U.S. administration then led by President George W. Bush not to invade Iraq.

The deteriorating drama of Syria inspired Francis to set aside Sept. 7 as a day of fasting and prayer for Syria.

Francis invited Catholics, other Christians, those of other faiths and non-believers who are "men of good will" to join him that evening in St. Peter's Square to invoke the "gift" of peace for Syria, the rest of the Middle East and worldwide where there is conflict.

"The world needs to see gestures of peace and hear words of hope and of peace," Francis said.

He said the prayer vigil in the square will last from 7 p.m. until midnight.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 05, 2013, 08:55:44 am
Did the Pope’s Blessing Miraculously Cure This Teen’s Life-Threatening Cancer?

Peter Srsich’s diagnosis was a lot to handle for an active and athletic high school student. It was July 2011 when the 17-year-old was told that he had stage-four cancer after doctors found a mass on his lung. What followed was intensive treatment, depression and monumental personal challenges.
 
While it wasn’t easy, in the midst of his trials, Srsich was afforded a faith-sustaining opportunity he’ll never forget. In an effort to make his biggest dreams come true, the Make-A-Wish Foundation sent the Colorado teenager and his family to the Vatican to meet and be blessed by then-Pope Benedict XVI. Flash-forward two years and Srsich is in remission and studying to become a Catholic priest.
 
The story is a fascinating one, showcasing the power of both modern medical advances and personal religious adherence. Srsich, who is currently studying at Regis University in Denver, Colo., credits his doctors with saving his life, but it is his faith in God and his encounter with the pope that he believes afforded him the will to beat the cancerous mass, the Daily Mail reports.

After his cancer was discovered in July 2011, Srsich underwent six months of treatments, including seven rounds of chemotherapy and more than 20 days of radiation. Three months into the harrowing ordeal, the Make-A-Wish Foundation’s Italian branch reached out and agreed to pay for the $14,000 trip — a voyage the family made in May 2012.
 
In an interview with ABC News, the now 19-year-old recounted his interaction with Pope Benedict. After watching the pontiff speak, Srsich said that he had the opportunity to meet him. At first, he was unsettled, as he saw people giving Benedict large gifts — something the teenager wasn’t prepared to do, as he merely had a “Pray for Peter” wristband that was made to support him in his cancer battle.

I am standing like the little drummer boy with nothing to offer,” he said. “There were golden crowns and a 4-foot tall magnificent painting of Mary and I am sitting there with a 70-cent rubber wristband.”

Srsich, though, proceeded to tell Benedict about his cancer and asked to be blessed.
 
“He looked at me and said, ‘Oh, you speak English?’ and put his hand on my chest right where the tumor had been, even though I had not mentioned it to him,” Srsich added. “The blessing is usually on the head.”
 
Eventually, the boy’s cancer was cured and he’s now in remission. While he doesn’t believe the pope miraculously banished the disease from his body, Srsich said that the pontiff played a key role in helping him overcome the disease. While chemo and modern medical marvels were key, Make-A-Wish and the trip to see the pope helped give him the will to power through and beat the disease.

While he doesn’t see it as a miracle, per se, Srsich believes that God — and faith — played a big role in his recovery.
 
“I credit all the years of medical research and the training of all the doctors going to school — all that definitely cured me,” he told ABC. “But God was behind it, helping me go through the treatment. Medical science is phenomenal. It would have been a death sentence 30 years ago, but in less than a year, I am back on my feet.”
 
It will take about eight years for Srsich to become a priest.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/05/a-miracle-teen-beats-stage-4-cancer-after-getting-blessed-by-the-pope-during-make-a-wish-trip/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 05, 2013, 09:13:54 am
His house is built on sand...just wait until the floods come and the wind blows...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 12, 2013, 05:01:25 am
Pope Francis assures atheists: You don’t have to believe in God to go to heaven



In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”


Robert Mickens, the Vatican correspondent for the Catholic journal The Tablet, said the pontiff’s comments were further evidence of his attempts to shake off the Catholic Church’s fusty image, reinforced by his extremely conservative predecessor Benedict XVI. “Francis is a still a conservative,” said Mr Mickens. “But what this is all about is him seeking to have a more meaningful dialogue with the world.”

In a welcoming response to the letter, Mr Scalfari said the Pope’s comments were “further evidence of his ability and desire to overcome barriers in dialogue with all”.

In July, Francis signalled a more progressive attitude on sexuality, asking: “If someone is gay and is looking for the Lord, who am I to judge him?”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-dont-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 12, 2013, 05:02:55 am
Pope Francis reaches out to atheists and agnostics
The Pope has struck a surprisingly conciliatory tone towards atheists and agnostics, saying that God will "forgive" them as long as they behave morally and live according to their consciences.


 The unprecedented gesture came as his incoming number two, the Vatican's newly-nominated secretary of state, said that the rule that priests should be celibate was not "a dogma of the Church" and could be open for discussion.

Francis, who has won praise for spontaneous and unusual moves during his six month papacy, wrote a lengthy letter to a newspaper, La Repubblica, which the Italian daily printed over four pages, including page one, under the simple byline "Francesco".

"God forgives those who obey their conscience," he wrote in the unprecedented letter, the latest example of the markedly different tone and style from his predecessors that he has set since being elected in March.

The 76-year-old pontiff was responding to editorials written in July and August by Eugenio Scalfari, an agnostic and the paper's founder, in which he was asked whether "the Christian God forgives those who do not believe and do not seek faith".

Mr Scalfari said he had not expected the South American pope to respond "so extensively and so affectionately, with such fraternal spirit".



The Pope wrote: "The question for those who do not believe in God is to follow their own conscience. Sin, even for a non-believer, is when one goes against one's conscience.

"To listen and to follow your conscience means that you understand the difference between good and evil."

He said that the "mercy of God has no limits" and encompassed even non-believers, but his remarks failed to impress the Italian Union of Atheists and Agnostics.

"Why should a non-believer seek legitimisation from the Pope?" the association asked.

It dismissed what it called the pontiff's "nice words" and said: "What interests non-believers is certainly not 'forgiveness' from an entity whose existence we do not trust."

The Pope's reaching out to atheists echoes a homily he delivered in May, when he said that even atheists could be welcomed into heaven. That declaration caused consternation among Vatican officials, with a spokesman later appearing to backtrack on the Pope's remarks, saying that people who do not believe in God "cannot be saved".

In a further sign that the Church is edging towards more openness, Archbishop Pietro Parolin, a Vatican diplomat who will next month become the Pope's deputy as secretary of state, said that the principle of celibacy among clergy was "ecclesiastical tradition" rather than "Church dogma" and therefore open to discussion.

The Pope has struck a more inclusive tone since taking over as leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in March, notably reaching out to homosexuals on his return from a week-long trip to Brazil in July.

"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" the Pope said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/10302850/Pope-Francis-reaches-out-to-atheists-and-agnostics.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on September 12, 2013, 12:17:55 pm
Quote
"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" the Pope said.

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 7:24 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 12, 2013, 01:19:34 pm
Quote
“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”


Doesn't the New Age Movement(and other Illuminati front groups) push this "Christ conscienceness" heresy? Oprah does, and remember that interview Billy Graham did with Robert Schuller in 1997 - he pretty much said the same thing Pope Frankie said here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNCnxA91fHE


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 12, 2013, 01:27:27 pm
I know both political "parties" are merely the opposite sides of the same Hegelian Dialectic, but...

The Vatican/RCC have infiltrated the GOP since the days of Reagan, pretty much - there's this one GOP establishment forum I go to to get news articles from(alot like PPF, they post some good up-to-the-date news), but nonetheless you can tell they're Catholic infiltrated when they are lumping the Popes with "conservatisim", and even going as far as pointing fingers at the so-called "liberal media" when it sounds like they're reporting a negative story about them.

For example, when Pope Francis made his "gay priests are not living in sin if they're doing the will of God" comment, almost immediately that forum(and I believe other "liberal media" watchdog groups too) were saying "Liberal media twisting Pope Francis' comments!". And even despite all the things Pope Frankie is doing(dialogueing with Muslims, athiests, etc), they're still blinded to the truth.

Pt being that this is the whole Hegelian Dialectic game the Vatican/Jesuits are playing - get everyone into the war of words dogfight where it goes to no end, and ultimately wear everyone out to the point where they can get them compromised. Next thing we know, Pope Frankie may say something like, "gay priests can have boyfriends, but just as long as they don't fornicate with them", and their followers will still be blinded to the truth. Also - this GOP establishment forum isn't just some lounge forum - a CNP member(Jim Robinson) runs it.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 14, 2013, 05:29:56 am
The Pope Separates Jews from Israelis

One of the grave dangers in the Vatican's dialogue with Judaism is the Church's attempt to drive a wedge between the “good” and docile Jews of the Diaspora and the “bad” and arrogant Jews of Israel.
 

Pope Francis has praised Jews for keeping their faith despite the Holocaust and other “terrible trials” throughout history, and reaffirmed Judaism as the “holy root” of Christianity.

In a letter, published on the front page of La Repubblica Italian newspaper, the Pope writes that "since Vatican Council II, we have rediscovered that the Jewish people are still for us the holy root from which Jesus germinated".

As archbishop of Buenos Aires, Bergoglio had celebrated Rosh Hashana in local synagogues, he had voiced solidarity with Jewish victims of Iranian terrorism and co-written a book with a rabbi, Avraham Skorka. He attended a commemoration of Kristallnacht, the wave of Nazi attacks against Jews in November 1938.

But as this new letter shows, one of the grave dangers in the Vatican's dialogue with Judaism is the Church's attempt to drive a wedge between the “good” and docile Jews of the Diaspora and the “bad” and arrogant Jews of Israel.

Pope Francis has never addressed the Israelis in his messages, nor has he openly defended the Jewish State since he was elected by the college of the cardinals. It seems that there is no room for stubborn, faithful Zionists in the Pope's lenient smile. In his speeches, Jewish national aspirations are ignored, if not denigrated.

The definitive proof is in Washington.

While the Pope was distributing that letter, in a new event co-sponsored by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Catholic University of America was hosting a special conference about “religious freedom and human rights issues in the Holy Land”. The speakers included Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, archbishop emeritus of Washington, D.C., Jessica Montell, executive director of B’Tselem anti-Israel group, and Mustafa Barghouti, the prominent member of the Palestinian Legislative Council.

Cardinal McCarrick said that “the expansion of Israeli settlements into occupied territories provokes violence”, in a self-evident justification of Arab terrorism. Montell, who accepted money from BDS, added that “settlement expansion is a primary source of human rights violations for Palestinians” and that “human rights violations are inherent to a prolonged military occupation”.

"When you live under occupation, you come to accept things you shouldn't accept,” Lubna Alzaroo, a Muslim graduate of Bethlehem University and Fullbright scholar studying at the University of Washington, said at the D.C. event of the Catholic Church.

Among the organizations invited by the Catholic bishops there was also the Society of St. Yves, which charges "Israeli colonization, occupation and apartheid" and works for "the Palestinian refugees’ rights to return to their homes and places of origin". The Society of St. Yves shares also the "Nakba” ideology, the “catastrophe”, as the Arabs call the date of the creation of the State of Israel in 1948.

While the Pope was penning his letter about Jesus, the US' highest Catholic political body was giving a platform to the boycotters of Israel, it was calling for the indefensible-for-Israel partition of the holy land and it was exculpating the Palestinian Arab for their jihad.

The Vatican, as always happened in the past, will be silent during the next "terrible trials" for the Jewish people, if they occur, should it be Iranian nuclear or Arab terrorism.

When Pope Francis was elected, a media outlet asked me to comment. My reply was: "I hope the next Pope will avoid the ecumenical mistakes of his predecessors, he will address the challenge of political Islam and understand the Jewish revolution of returning to the land after Auschwitz. Otherwise, any Jewish-Catholic dialogue will be empty, or worse, it will be a show for hypocrites".

Was I right to be skeptical?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13829


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 14, 2013, 11:12:02 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/13/chris-hayes-declares-francis-to-be-the-best-pope-ever/
9/13/13
MSNBC's Chris Hayes declares Francis to be ‘the best pope ever’

Chris Hayes of the MSNBC show “All In with Chris Hayes” said on Thursday that he thinks Pope Francis, who has only been in office for a few months, is the “best pope ever.”

Francis has been calling and talking to individuals personally by phone. He has declared that atheists are not all doomed to burn in Hell forever. He has said, “Who am I to judge?” with regards to LGBT people.

“You know who I freakin’ love?” Hayes asked. “This new pope. Pope Francis. You know who I’m talking about, right? The pope. Are you watching this guy? Because you should be. It’s early, but I’m thinking…best pope ever.”

Hayes was raised Catholic but stopped attending services in college. Pope Francis, he said, is restoring his hope for the institution of the church.

“Now, I don’t have a whole lot of hope that the Church itself is going to come around and change tenets or official positions that I deeply oppose — its rejection of things like gay marriage, women in the priesthood, a woman’s autonomy over her own body,” he wrote.

“But given the constraints of what being pope is, you can operate in one of two ways: you can be a jerk about it, or you can be awesome,” he said. And Francis, “is choosing to be awesome.”



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on September 15, 2013, 04:54:45 am
Quote
“But given the constraints of what being pope is, you can operate in one of two ways: you can be a jerk about it, or you can be awesome,” he said. And Francis, “is choosing to be awesome.”

Sounds like things that will be said about the False Prophet (the second beast) when he shows up and kicks off his sideshow to dazzle the crowds with the spectacle of the Antichrist.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 19, 2013, 03:23:06 pm
Don't be surprised if he comes out in the near future supporting gun control...

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/19/20580271-pope-francis-says-church-cannot-focus-only-on-abortion-and-gay-marriage?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1
9/19/13
Pope Francis says church cannot focus only on abortion and gay marriage

Pope Francis said in an interview published Thursday that the Catholic Church cannot focus only on abortion, contraception and gay marriage, and that the moral structure of the church will “fall like a house of cards” if it does not find better balance.

The pope acknowledged in the interview that he has been criticized for not speaking more about those three issues, but he said that the church must “talk about them in a context.”

While the teaching of the church on those subjects was clear, he said, “It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.”

The pope’s remarks draw a contrast with both the doctrinal focus of his predecessors, John Paul II and Benedict XVI, and with church leaders in the United States and around the world who have urged him to speak more publicly about homosexuality, abortion and birth control.

“We have to find a new balance,” he said in the interview, published in Jesuit journals across the world. “Otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”

He added: “The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.” ???

The pope, since his installation in March, has focused on the poor and those on the margins of society. He has also drawn praise from some parishioners for gestures of humility and frugality. He has declined some of the trappings of the papacy, and personally returned the phone calls of some of the faithful who have written to him.

On homosexuality, the pope said that he used to receive letters in Argentina, where he was a cardinal before his elevation, who were “socially wounded” and felt that the church had condemned them.

“But the church does not want to do this,” he said. “Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: It is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.”

He went on: “A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person.”

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Acts 10:34  Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35  But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Matthew 3:7  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Mat 3:8  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Mat 3:9  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Mat 3:10  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 3:11  I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 19, 2013, 10:24:38 pm
OK, here's part of the Hegelian Dialectic the Vatican/Jesuits have been playing for years with their controlled-opposition sides - one of the things they've used quite a bit with the conservative/Republican side is this "liberal media" buzzword. Pretty much, they will use it as a weapon to silence the conservative/Republican side and keep them in the dark about globalist agendas.

This is an Opinion Piece on the FOX News web site, but they're playing this "liberal media" card yet again over how Pope Francis' comments were somehow "distorted" by "liberal media" outlets, and their scapegoat is the NY Times(their perfect liberal scapegoat).

BTW - it was NOT ONLY the NY Times that reported Pope Frankie's comments - other media outlets like FOX NEWS have reported the SAME THING! ::)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/19/pope-francis-says-its-not-necessary-for-church-to-speak-about-gay-marriage/?intcmp=latestnews


Let’s not just talk about sex -- what Pope Francis really said to the Jesuit Interviewer
9/19/13
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/19/pope-francis-says-its-not-necessary-for-church-to-speak-about-gay-marriage/?intcmp=latestnews

VATICAN CITY –  Pope Francis is warning that the Catholic Church's moral edifice might "fall like a house of cards" if it doesn't balance its divisive rules about abortion, gays and contraception with the greater need to make the church a merciful, more welcoming place for all.

Six months into his papacy, Francis set out his vision for the church and his priorities as pope in a remarkably candid and lengthy interview with La Civilta Cattolica, the Italian Jesuit magazine. It was published simultaneously Thursday in other Jesuit journals, including America magazine in the U.S.

In the 12,000-word article, Francis expands on his ground-breaking comments over the summer about gays and acknowledges some of his own faults. He sheds light on his favorite composers, artists, authors and films (Mozart, Caravaggio, Dostoevsky and Fellini's "La Strada") and says he prays even while at the dentist's office.

But his vision of what the church should be stands out, primarily because it contrasts so sharply with many of the priorities of his immediate predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI. They were both intellectuals for whom doctrine was paramount, an orientation that guided the selection of generations of bishops and cardinals around the globe.

Francis said the dogmatic and the moral teachings of the church were not all equivalent.

"The church's pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently," Francis said. "We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel."

Rather, he said, the Catholic Church must be like a "field hospital after battle," healing the wounds of its faithful and going out to find those who have been hurt, excluded or have fallen away.

"It is useless to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol and about the level of his blood sugars!" Francis said. "You have to heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else."

"The church sometimes has locked itself up in small things, in small-minded rules," he lamented. "The most important thing is the first proclamation: Jesus Christ has saved you. And the ministers of the church must be ministers of mercy above all."

The admonition is likely to have sharp reverberations in the United States, where some bishops have already publicly voiced dismay that Francis hasn't hammered home church teaching on abortion, contraception and homosexuality — areas of the culture wars where U.S. bishops often put themselves on the front lines. U.S. bishops were also behind Benedict's crackdown on American nuns, who were accused of letting doctrine take a backseat to their social justice work caring for the poor — precisely the priority that Francis is endorsing.

Just last week, Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, Rhode Island, wrote in his diocesan newspaper that he was "a little bit disappointed" that Francis hadn't addressed abortion since being elected.

Francis acknowledged that he had been "reprimanded" for not speaking out on such issues. But he said he didn't need to.

"We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible," he said. "The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time."

Francis, the first Jesuit to become pope, was interviewed by Civilta Cattolica's editor, the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, over three days in August at the Vatican hotel where Francis chose to live rather than the papal apartments. The Vatican vets all content of the journal, and the pope approved the Italian version of the article.

Nothing Francis said in this or other interviews indicate any change in church teaching. But he has set a different tone and signaled new priorities compared to Benedict and John Paul — priorities that have already been visible in his simple style, his outreach to the most marginalized and his insistence that priests be pastors, not bureaucrats.

Two months ago, Francis caused a sensation during an inflight news conference when he was asked about gay priests. "Who am I to judge?" about the sexual orientation of priests, as long as they are searching for God and have good will, he responded.

Francis noted in the latest interview that he had merely repeated church teaching (though he again neglected to repeat church teaching that says while homosexuals should be treated with dignity and respect, homosexual acts are "intrinsically disordered.")

But he continued: "A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: 'Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?'

"We must always consider the person. In life, God accompanies persons, and we must accompany them, starting from their situation. It is necessary to accompany them with mercy. When that happens, the Holy Spirit inspires the priest to say the right thing."

The key, he said, is for the church to welcome, not exclude and show mercy, not condemnation.

"This church with which we should be thinking is the home of all, not a small chapel that can hold only a small group of selected people. We must not reduce the bosom of the universal church to a nest protecting our mediocrity," he said.

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Not that I endorse Obama and Nancy Pelosi, but just imagine if they said the same things Pope Frankie said - FOX News would be jumping all over them, and they would be calling out the liberal NY Times for not holding them accountable.

And also what I find odd is that the GOP establishment/media have waited until NOW to say, "But *this* is how we approach it...". It was a lot like the last Presidential election, when they did a 180 and said how political leaders' religious faiths shouldn't matter(despite the fact that they insisted Reagan and Bush Jr were bible believing Christians)!

With that being said, the FOX News writer of this Op-Ed piece didn't prove anything one way or another, other than he himself and Pope Frankie are doctrinally in error, big time.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 20, 2013, 11:42:13 am
http://www.newswithviews.com/Duigon/lee218.htm
THE FIRST POPE OF ME-ISM

By Lee Duigon
 September 19, 2013
 NewsWithViews.com

Pope Francis, new to the job, has been saying some queer things—most recently, that unbelievers, even atheists, can go to heaven. All you have to do, says the Pope, is obey your conscience. Sin is going against your conscience.

Is he trying to invent a new religion? This is so far off the beaten track of Christianity, it really ought to be named something else—“me-ism” (rhymes with deism).

Okay, he’s trying reach out to the world, maybe get them thinking Christianity isn’t so bad after all. In this he’s only following the lead of various flatline Protestants. “Hey, I know! What if we say it doesn’t matter what you believe, you’re all still gonna go to heaven? What if we say abortion is okay, adultery is no big deal, and evolution is true? What if our ministers put on sherbet-colored suits and perform same-sex marriages right there in church—followed by ‘The **** Monologues’? And we’ll throw in some goddess-worship, too! And rewrite the Bible! When the world sees we’re just like they are, they’ll love us!”

Blind fools—the world will kick your teeth in. Meanwhile, Christians will stampede for the exits, leaving no one in the pews but clueless old dunderheads who can’t understand why no one else thinks they’re as cool and clever as they do.

If it doesn’t matter whether you believe in God, if all you need for salvation is to be easy with your conscience, why have a church at all? Why bother with the Bible?I’ll betcha Adolf Eichmann was easy with his conscience.

Maybe the Pope ought to get out more often. Maybe he should see what people’s consciences let them get away with. We have “Christians” in Iowa shouting “Thank God for abortion!” Can’t Francis see what kind of shape this world is in?

This poor world needs saving; and it’s the Church’s job to be a light in the darkness. It’s the Church’s job to show that there’s a better way, God’s way—not to be conformed to the world’s way. “I’m OK, you’re OK” is not the message of the scriptures.

The city on the hill is looking more and more like the slums around the bottom of the hill.

If works of the flesh could save us; if the uninstructed conscience were truly all we need—then why, in God’s name, did Jesus ever have to come to earth and suffer on the cross? He could have saved Himself an awful lot of trouble! But the preaching of the cross is, to them that perish, foolishness. (I Corinthians 1:18)

The Pope’s approach to this fallen world is not new. Once upon a time it moved St. Paul to cry out, “O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you?” (Galatians 3:1) And our churches are indeed bewitched.

It’s not just the Roman Catholics who tweak the Gospel message. What denomination has ever been satisfied with just the word of God? How often, over the centuries, have they tried to improve on it? But we can see now where the unbroken march of error leads us.

Me-ism is a sham that subverts the mission of the Church and insults God to His face. Has that ever turned out well? The conscience that has not been saved by faith in Jesus Christ is no conscience at all: not one of the Ten Commandments is safe from it. “I answer only to my conscience” is as sure a prescription for wickedness as the world has ever known.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 20, 2013, 11:49:51 am
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Okay, he’s trying reach out to the world, maybe get them thinking Christianity isn’t so bad after all. In this he’s only following the lead of various flatline Protestants. “Hey, I know! What if we say it doesn’t matter what you believe, you’re all still gonna go to heaven? What if we say abortion is okay, adultery is no big deal, and evolution is true? What if our ministers put on sherbet-colored suits and perform same-sex marriages right there in church—followed by ‘The **** Monologues’? And we’ll throw in some goddess-worship, too! And rewrite the Bible! When the world sees we’re just like they are, they’ll love us!”

uhm, they already did that a long time ago, its called the Catholic church


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 20, 2013, 12:03:13 pm
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He points out that while Catholics make the distinction between “loving the sinner and hating the sin,” non-Catholics do not.

This is NOT scriptural. Scripture says the lost are children of wrath...

Eph 2:1  And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3  Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4  But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5  Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)


AND...

John 3:18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Also - this same "God loves the sinner, but hates the sin" heresy has been spread in Churchianity.

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He noted the London Daily Telegraph’s Nick Squires reported that the pope said, “God forgives those who follow their conscience.” However, in the translation of the letter by the Catholic news service Zenit, those words do not appear. The pope writes:

First of all, you ask me if the God of Christians forgives one who doesn’t believe and doesn’t seek the faith. Premise that – and it’s the fundamental thing – the mercy of God has no limits if one turns to him with a sincere and contrite heart; the question for one who doesn’t believe in God lies in obeying one’s conscience. Sin, also for those who don’t have faith, exists when one goes against one’s conscience. To listen to and to obey it means, in fact, to decide in face of what is perceived as good or evil. And on this decision pivots the goodness or malice of our action.

Uhm, how were his comments "distorted" by the MSM? ::)

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In July, after a surprise press conference on his return flight from Brazil, widespread reports focused on Francis’ statement that if “someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”

USA Today declared in a headline: “Pope Francis says he won’t ‘judge’ gay priests”

But, as WND reported, many Catholic commentators insisted Francis remarks were misunderstood or misreported.

 ??? How were his comments "misunderstood"? Sorry, but same meaning.


With that being said - it seems like a lot of these "conservative"/GOP establishment media outlets are pro-Catholic. Whatever "conservatism" they want to believe, it's on them - but nonetheless I can't imagine ANYONE lumping Pope Frankie with ANY kind of "conservatism".


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 20, 2013, 12:12:18 pm
Also - on further evaluation of what the MSM says vs. what Pope Frankie says - no, the MSM doesn't distort anything he says. But they will make the appearance of "slightly tweaking" what he says in their headlines, to MAKE IT LOOK LIKE there's "liberal media" bias. Then the next thing we know, all of these Roman Catholic "liberal media critics" like Brent Bozell, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, etc are all expressing outrage and stirring up their followers(further keeping them in the dark).

They pulled this same stunt when Bush and Cheney were pushing for the Iraq war months before the invasion.

Also - just imagine if Obama, Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden made these same comments Frankie did - no, not that I support either one, but nonetheless WND and other GOP establishment outlets would be outraged, and would be exposing the NY Times and other "liberal media" outlets for "going easy" on them.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 20, 2013, 12:47:00 pm
Thursday, September 19, 2013


 

Pope Francis reveals his true face




By Michael Hoffman
 
www.revisionisthistory.org
 
In an interview filled with what we can only term theological gobbledegook with nary a reference to the Bible, but loads of mystical vertiginous malarkey, Francis the pope of Rome has come out with unprecedented cold-hearted malice toward defenseless, unborn children.
 
Let us anticipate the response of his defenders and rejoin in advance: no, the pope was not quoted out of context, or misquoted. We’re going to give you his quote in context; and it is said he was handed a copy of his interview and allowed to check and edit it before its publication in the Jesuit magazine, America.
 
Here are the pontiff’s documented words, in context. First on homosexuality:
 
“We need to proclaim the Gospel on every street corner,” the pope says, “preaching the good news of the kingdom and healing, even with our preaching, every kind of disease and wound. In Buenos Aires I used to receive letters from homosexual persons who are ‘socially wounded’ because they tell me that they feel like the church has always condemned them. But the church does not want to do this. During the return flight from Rio de Janeiro I said that if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge. By saying this, I said what the catechism says. Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person. 
 
“A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person. Here we enter into the mystery of the human being. In life, God accompanies persons, and we must accompany them, starting from their situation. It is necessary to accompany them with mercy. When that happens, the Holy Spirit inspires the priest to say the right thing.” (End quote).
 
Where in the catechism does it say the pontiff has no right to judge a homosexual?
 
What is this pope babbling about when he says, “...it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person”?
 
Furthermore, what is “gay” about sodomy? If God, as the pope claims, “endorses the existence” of a person who practices sodomy, how could God ever send that person to hell?
 
Nowhere does the pope mention a little something known as sin. He offers no reasons for the sodomite to stop sodomizing. After all, God Himself “endorses the existence” of the sodomite. So why not continue in one’s sins? What is the impetus for change?
 
The pontiff’s documented words, in context, on abortion and contraception:
 
"We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible. I have not spoken much about these things, and I was reprimanded for that. But when we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in a context. The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time...The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently...We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”  (End quote).
 
Perhaps someone should tell the pope it is not necessary for the post-Vatican II Church to insist only on issues related to the Nazi “Holocaust," anti-semitism and the defense of Talmudic Judaism as possessing an unbroken covenant with God. "We have to find a new balance." Does the pope agree? Would he be caught dead saying that the pastoral ministry cannot be “obsessed” with the Nazi “Holocaust”?
 
We don't believe, short of a divine miracle, Francis would ever make such a statement, for unlike the dehumanized and marginalized unborn children awaiting the executioner's invasion of their mother's womb, the Nazi "Holocaust" lobby has enormous power on earth. The victims of the abortion holocaust have no such lobby with comparable power on earth.
 
Let us also not forget that this coffin-rider who calls himself pope is declaring that too much has been said against birth control (contraception). The people who brought the Gospel to the world, who inhabit the nations of Britain, Ireland, Europe, Canada, Australia and the United States, are self-extinguishing due to contraception being winked at by their religious leaders — and now it is minimized by the pope himself. This is incredible. It is totally revolutionary. Even the pope of Vatican II, Paul VI, devoted himself to composing the encyclical Humane Vitae, closing the door forever on artificial contraception. But Francis declares, "We have to find a new balance.” Between what, life and death? (Rev. 3:15).
 
According to fake prophecies cooked up during the Renaissance and attributed to the medieval St. Malachy, the current Pope Francis is the last pontiff, dubbed, in that phony prophecy, “Peter Romanus.”
 
We propose a new name for him, Diabolus Romanus.
 

Hoffman is the author of Usury in Christendom: The Mortal Sin that Was and Now is Not.
 
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on September 20, 2013, 01:32:03 pm
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During the return flight from Rio de Janeiro I said that if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge. By saying this, I said what the catechism says. Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.

I disagree with the last part, but, otherwise, he's correct. We are not to judge salvation, but rather the fruits of a person, and that is where churchianity and cults fail, because they allow rotten fruit in the basket, which spoils it all.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 21, 2013, 01:19:26 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/american-catholics-theyre-hearing-pope-francis-131052270.html
American Catholics like what they're hearing from Pope Francis

Pope Francis said in an interview this week that the Catholic Church's emphasis needs to turn from sexual issues to the ‘freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.’ Polls show most American Catholics agree.

9/21/13

Pope Francis shook up the Roman Catholic world this week with his comments about abortion, contraception, and gay marriage, saying such moral and doctrinal issues should not be overemphasized at the cost of “losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel."

In the United States, many Catholics hailed what the pope had to say in a lengthy interview in a Jesuit publication, which may not be surprising given attitudes here seen as more liberal than official church doctrine from Rome.

• By 55-43 percent, most American Catholics say abortion should be legal in “all or most cases,” according to a Washington Post/ABC poll in July.

• Eighty-two percent of Catholics in the US say birth control is morally acceptable, Gallup found last year – not much less than the 90 percent approval among all adults polled.

• In March, a Quinnipiac University National Poll found that most Catholic voters (54-38 percent) support same-sex marriage – higher than the 47-43 percent general approval rate. "Catholic voters are leading American voters toward support for same-sex marriage," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.


• Also, according to the Quinnipiac Poll, most American Catholics say priests should be allowed to marry (62-30 percent), say the church’s ban on contraception should be relaxed (64-28 percent, including 68-24 percent among women), and support Present Obama's position that religious-based institutions, such as hospitals and universities, must arrange for their insurance companies to provide birth control coverage for employees (51-41 percent).

“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods," Francis said in the article published Thursday in Jesuit journals in 16 countries. "We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel."

In a move no doubt intended to answer those church members and clergy – including some bishops – holding to a more traditionally conservative view, the pope on Friday spoke out on abortion.

Speaking to Catholic doctors at the Vatican, Pope Francis condemned the “throwaway culture” abortion promotes, saying, “Our response to this mentality is a ‘yes’ to life, decisive and without hesitation.”

“Every unborn child, though unjustly condemned to be aborted, has the face of the Lord, who even before his birth, and then as soon as he was born, experienced the rejection of the world,” he said.

Still, liberal Catholics in the US welcomed the pope’s message in the earlier interview.

“This message resonates with so many Catholics because it reflects our personal experiences—Catholics are gay and lesbian; Catholics use birth control and Catholics have abortions,” Jon O’Brien, president of Catholics for Choice, said in a statement[/b].

“We truly hope that this is just the start; that Pope Francis doesn’t only talk the talk, but also walks the walk,” Mr. O’Brien said. “We hope he takes steps to ensure that his more open view of how the church should deal with people trickles down to his brother bishops around the world, who oversee large numbers of hospitals and medical centers.”

We also hope that this attitude starts to take effect immediately at the United Nations, where the Vatican continues to take extreme positions against contraception, abortion and sexual and reproductive rights, having a very negative impact on the lives of Catholics and non-Catholics throughout the world,” he said.

As the Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project pointed out last week, the pope has made headlines by condemning the use of chemical weapons, leading a prayer vigil for peace in Syria, vowing to reform the Vatican bureaucracy, washing the feet of young prisoners (including two women) during a Holy Thursday ceremony, and taking a humble approach to the trappings of the papacy, including his decision to reside in a modest residence rather than more spacious accommodations.

A Pew poll taken Sept. 4-8 shows that 79 percent of US Catholics view Pope Francis favorably. “Francis receives his strongest support from those who say they attend Mass at least once a week, with 86% of this group expressing a favorable view of the pontiff,” Pew reported.

The pope’s evident popularity is not lost on the church hierarchy in the United States.

Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, Rhode Island, last week said in an interview with his diocesan newspaper that he was "a little bit disappointed" that Francis hadn't spoken out about abortion.

On Friday, in an official statement responding to the pope's remarkable interview in La Civilta Cattolica, Bishop Tobin said he admired Francis' leadership.

"Being a Catholic doesn't mean having to choose between doctrine and charity, between truth and love. It includes both. We are grateful to Pope Francis for reminding us of that vision," Tobin said.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who as head of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has taken a lead role in voicing the U.S. church's opposition to contraception and gay marriage, said the church isn't the only one obsessed with such issues – today's culture is.

"Every pope has a different strategy," Cardinal Dolan told "CBS This Morning." ''What I think he's saying is, those are important issues and the church has got to keep talking about them, but we need to talk about them in a fresh new way. If we keep kind of a negative finger-wagging tone, it's counterproductive.”

“I think what he’s saying is those are important issues, but we need to talk about those issues in a fresh, new way,” Dolan said. “Instead of talking about these hot-button issues, why don’t we talk about tenderness and mercy and the love we have for one another?”

To which most American Catholics evidently say, “Amen.”


Title: He can reconcile Christianity with Islam
Post by: Mark on September 22, 2013, 08:50:52 am
French imams to meet pope

AFP | 21 Sep 2013, 10:01

A group of 10 French imams will meet Pope Francis on Wednesday in the latest sign of rapprochement between the Vatican and the Muslim world.

The meeting has been organised by Marek Halter, a French Jewish author known for promoting religious tolerance who has organised similar initiatives in the past.

"I thought: Here's a pope who can do what the previous pope didn't do. He can reconcile Christianity with Islam," Halter said.

Relations between the Vatican and the Muslim world were strained in recent years and Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's Cairo-based highest seat of learning, broke off ties with Francis's predecessor Benedict XVI for what it regarded as controversial statements.

Benedict had strongly called for protection of Christian minorities after a January 2011 suicide bombing at a church in Egypt.

He also sparked fury in the Muslim world in 2006 when he recounted an anecdote in which a Byzantine emperor described Prophet Mohammed as a warmonger who spread evil.

But Francis has made several conciliatory gestures. In August he called for "mutual respect" between Christianity and Islam.

The public meeting is due to take place in Saint Peter's Square in Rome during the weekly papal audience, and will last some 15 minutes.

Hassen Chalghoumi, a Muslim community leader in the Paris suburb of Drancy who is in favour of France's burqa ban, will be among those travelling to Rome aboard the plane of Tunisian film producer Tarak Ben Ammar, a friend of Halter's.

http://m.thelocal.fr//20130921/french-imams-to-meet-pope


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 22, 2013, 01:04:47 pm
This from the head of the Catholic Church!!!!

Pope Francis Criticizes Global Economy For Worshipping A 'God Called Money'   

Pope Francis threw out his prepared Mass on Sunday to make an improvised address on unemployment and the suffering caused by a world economy that worships “this god called money.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christianity/catholicism/pope-francis-criticizes-global-economy-worshipping-god-called

Wealth of Roman Catholic Church impossible to calculate
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/08/wealth-of-roman-catholic-church-impossible-to-calculate/

The Vatican Billions
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_billions.htm

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 22, 2013, 08:46:49 pm
It seems like these Illuminati types will almost always telegraph their punches - pretty much, this "consumerism" economy started shortly after the NIV bible(1978) was put on the market(during the Reagan years, which was also the same time when Reagan re-established ties with the Vatican).

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/22/20638292-pope-attacks-global-economy-for-worshipping-god-of-money?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1
9/22/13
Pope attacks global economy for worshipping 'god of money'

CAGLIARI, Sardinia — Pope Francis made one of his strongest attacks on the global economic system on Sunday, saying it could no longer be based on a "god called money" and urged the unemployed to fight for work.

Francis, at the start of a day-long trip to the Sardinian capital, Cagliari, put aside his prepared text at a meeting with unemployed workers, including miners in hard hats who told him of their situation, and improvised for nearly 20 minutes.

"I find suffering here ... It weakens you and robs you of hope," he said. "Excuse me if I use strong words, but where there is no work there is no dignity."

He discarded his prepared speech after listening to Francesco Mattana, a 45-year-old married father of three who lost his job with an alternative energy company four years ago.

Mattana, his voice trembling, told the pope that unemployment "oppresses you and wears you out to the depths of your soul."

The crowd of about 20,000 people in a square near the city port chanted what Francis called a prayer for "work, work, work." They cheered each time he spoke of the rights of workers and the personal devastation caused by joblessness.

The pope, who later celebrated Mass for some 300,000 people outside the city's cathedral, told them: "We don't want this globalised economic system which does us so much harm. Men and women have to be at the centre (of an economic system) as God wants, not money."

"The world has become an idolator of this god called money," he said.

Sardinia's coast is famous for its idyllic beaches, exclusive resorts and seaside palatial residences of some of the world's richest people, including former Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi and a host of Hollywood actors.

But much of the island, particularly its large cities and the vast agricultural and industrial interior, has been blighted by the economic crisis, with factories closed and mines operating at low capacity.

YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT, CLOSING MINES 

Cagliari has a youth unemployment rate of about 51 percent. The Sulcis area in the southwest of the island is threatened with more unemployment from the looming closures of the Carbosulcis coal mine and an aluminum smelter.

The pope made clear that his assessment was not limited to the local situation.

"It is not a problem of Italy and Europe ... It is the consequence of a world choice, of an economic system that brings about this tragedy, an economic system that has at its centre an idol which is called money," he said to the cheers of the crowd.

While Francis's predecessor Benedict also called for changes to economic systems, he was more likely to use dense intellectual language.

Francis, who as bishop of Buenos Aires sided with unemployed workers in their conflict with government austerity plans, ended his improvised speech with a prayer asking God to "give us work and teach us to fight for work".

Francis said he did not want the crowd to see him as a smiling "cordial manager of the Church who comes here and says to you 'have courage'".

He added: "I don't want this. I want this courage to come from inside me and push me to do everything I can as a pastor and a man."

Francis brought tears to the eyes of some in the crowd when he told his own family's story of emigration from Italy to Argentina and how they lost everything in the Great Depression.

"I was not born yet, but as a child I remember hearing talk of this suffering," he said.

Francis said globalization had brought with it a culture where the weakest in society suffered the most and often, those on the fringes "fall away", including the elderly, who he said were victims of a "hidden euthanasia" caused by neglect of those no longer considered productive.

"To defend this economic culture, a throwaway culture has been installed. We throw away grandparents, and we throw away young people. We have to say no to his throwaway culture. We want a just system that helps everyone," he said.


Title: Re: He can reconcile Christianity with Islam
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 22, 2013, 08:49:54 pm
French imams to meet pope

AFP | 21 Sep 2013, 10:01

A group of 10 French imams will meet Pope Francis on Wednesday in the latest sign of rapprochement between the Vatican and the Muslim world.

The meeting has been organised by Marek Halter, a French Jewish author known for promoting religious tolerance who has organised similar initiatives in the past.

"I thought: Here's a pope who can do what the previous pope didn't do. He can reconcile Christianity with Islam," Halter said.

Relations between the Vatican and the Muslim world were strained in recent years and Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's Cairo-based highest seat of learning, broke off ties with Francis's predecessor Benedict XVI for what it regarded as controversial statements.

Benedict had strongly called for protection of Christian minorities after a January 2011 suicide bombing at a church in Egypt.

He also sparked fury in the Muslim world in 2006 when he recounted an anecdote in which a Byzantine emperor described Prophet Mohammed as a warmonger who spread evil.

But Francis has made several conciliatory gestures. In August he called for "mutual respect" between Christianity and Islam.

The public meeting is due to take place in Saint Peter's Square in Rome during the weekly papal audience, and will last some 15 minutes.

Hassen Chalghoumi, a Muslim community leader in the Paris suburb of Drancy who is in favour of France's burqa ban, will be among those travelling to Rome aboard the plane of Tunisian film producer Tarak Ben Ammar, a friend of Halter's.

http://m.thelocal.fr//20130921/french-imams-to-meet-pope

Yes, we are on the cusp of things now.


Title: Re: He can reconcile Christianity with Islam
Post by: Mark on September 24, 2013, 07:58:57 am
"I thought: Here's a pope who can do what the previous pope didn't do. He can reconcile Christianity with Islam," Halter said.

Pope expresses good will to Muslims in letter to Sunni imam

Cairo, Egypt, Sep 23, 2013 / 01:03 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Francis has indicated respect “for Islam and Muslims” in a letter to the head of the main cultural institution of Sunni Islam, marking the end of Ramadan.
 
Ahmed el-Tayeb, grand imam of al-Azhar University, perhaps the highest authority in Sunni thought, received the Pope’s letter at the hands of Archbishop Jean-Paul Gobel, apostolic nuncio to Egypt, on Sept. 17, Fides News Agency reported.
 
A statement from the Cairo-based university said that the Holy Father’s letter expressed hope in the attempt to further “understanding among Christians and Muslims in the world” and “to build peace and justice.”
 
Secretary of the Patriarchate of Alexandria of the Catholic Copts, Fr. Hani Bakhoum, told the agency that the Roman Pontiff’s letter “is a way of expressing the deep sense of respect and affection that the Catholic Church, the Holy See and the Pope have towards all Muslims and especially of al-Azhar, which is the most representative institution of moderate Sunni Islam.”
 
“Surely this letter will help over time to put aside any misunderstanding and also resume to bilateral dialogue with the Holy See.”
 
Following an attack on the Coptic Cathedral in Alexandria on New Year’s Eve in 2011, dialogue between the Holy See and al-Azhar was interrupted when, according to Fides, the university “interpreted Pope Benedict XVI’s statements on the need to protect Christians in Egypt and the Middle East as an undue Western interference.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-expresses-good-will-to-muslims-in-letter-to-sunni-imam/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 24, 2013, 08:27:17 am
This is interesting...

2 popes reach out to atheists in apparent campaign

Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI has emerged from his self-imposed silence inside the Vatican to publish a lengthy letter to one of Italy's most well-known atheists. In it, he defends his record on handling sexually abusive priests and discusses everything from evolution to theology to the figure of Jesus Christ.

Excerpts of the letter were published Tuesday by La Repubblica, the same newspaper which just two weeks ago published a similar letter from Pope Francis to its own atheist publisher.

The letters indicate the two men in white — who live across the Vatican gardens from one another — are pursuing a collaborative campaign of sorts to engage non-believers. It's a melding of papacies past and present that has no precedent.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/world/article/2-popes-reach-out-to-atheists-in-apparent-campaign-4838638.php


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 24, 2013, 11:19:10 am
This is interesting...

2 popes reach out to atheists in apparent campaign

Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI has emerged from his self-imposed silence inside the Vatican to publish a lengthy letter to one of Italy's most well-known atheists. In it, he defends his record on handling sexually abusive priests and discusses everything from evolution to theology to the figure of Jesus Christ.

Excerpts of the letter were published Tuesday by La Repubblica, the same newspaper which just two weeks ago published a similar letter from Pope Francis to its own atheist publisher.

The letters indicate the two men in white — who live across the Vatican gardens from one another — are pursuing a collaborative campaign of sorts to engage non-believers. It's a melding of papacies past and present that has no precedent.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/world/article/2-popes-reach-out-to-atheists-in-apparent-campaign-4838638.php

Yes this definitely is - looks like Benedict hasn't gone away.

BTW - wonder what Life Site News has to say about all this! ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on September 24, 2013, 01:53:51 pm
Not that I'm a Catholic historian, but I've never heard of two popes interacting like this. Usually the previous is dead, so it usually isn't even possible. It's unique, but I don't really see it as some significant event, but it is interesting.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 24, 2013, 01:56:18 pm
Not that I'm a Catholic historian, but I've never heard of two popes interacting like this. Usually the previous is dead, so it usually isn't even possible. It's unique, but I don't really see it as some significant event, but it is interesting.

actually theres been a lot of Popes at the same time, even a couple of woman popes. heck they have fought wars against each other to see who will be pope.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 24, 2013, 01:57:02 pm
Not that I'm a Catholic historian, but I've never heard of two popes interacting like this. Usually the previous is dead, so it usually isn't even possible. It's unique, but I don't really see it as some significant event, but it is interesting.

Yeah, was thinking of the same thing too.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 24, 2013, 02:18:58 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-defends-immigrant-rights-denounces-slave-labour-102943699.html
Pope defends immigrant rights, denounces 'slave labor'
9/24/13

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis urged countries on Tuesday to welcome and respect migrants and refugees and not treat them as "pawns on the chessboard of humanity".

Francis, who has made the defense of the poor and vulnerable a cornerstone of his papacy, said in a message for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees that there should be a change in attitude on the part of host countries.

"Migrants and refugees are not pawns on the chessboard of humanity," he said in the message, which is sent to government and international institutions such as the United Nations.

"They are children, women and men who leave or who are forced to leave their homes for various reasons, who share a legitimate desire for knowing and having, but above all for being more."

He also repeated his condemnation of "slave labor" and trafficking, developing his criticism of a "throwaway culture".

Francis has often used the term to denounce a modern society where people who are not productive, such as the elderly, are neglected and cast off as if they were objects no longer useful.

Immigration is a divisive issue in Europe and beyond. France's far-right National Front, which has an anti-immigrant policy, has been buoyed by improving poll numbers.

Italy's first black minister, Cecile Kyenge, who was born in Africa, has been the butt of racist comments from the anti-immigrant Northern League because she supports automatic citizenship for immigrant children born in Italy.

The steady flow of refugee boats is a also hot issue in Australia, polarizing voters this month's election.

The pope, whose own ancestors left Italy for Argentina in the early 20th century and lived through the Great Depression, called for "the elimination of prejudices and presuppositions" in the approach to migration.

"Not infrequently, the arrival of migrants, displaced persons, asylum-seekers and refugees gives rise to suspicion and hostility. There is a fear that society will become less secure, that identity and culture will be lost, that competition for jobs will become stiffer and even that criminal activity will increase," he said.

"CHANGE OF ATTITUDE"

In his message, Francis decried companies and businesses that exploited migrants and refugees, many of whom work for low day wages in agriculture and in illegal factories in Italy and elsewhere in Europe.

"Particularly disturbing are those situations where migration is not only involuntary, but actually set in motion by various forms of human trafficking and enslavement. Nowadays, 'slave labor' is common currency," he said.

In July, Francis chose Lampedusa, the tiny island off Sicily that has been the first port of safety for untold thousands of migrants crossing by sea from North Africa seeking a better life in Europe, as the place for his first trip outside Rome to draw attention to the plight of refugees.

"A change of attitude towards migrants and refugees is needed on the part of everyone, moving away from attitudes of defensiveness and fear, indifference and marginalization - all typical of a throwaway culture - towards attitudes based on a culture of encounter, the only culture capable of building a better, more just and fraternal world," he said in the message.

Earlier this month, when he visited a refugee center in Rome, Francis said disused church buildings should be used to house asylum-seekers.

Francis has been a frequent critic of globalization and on Sunday made one of his strongest attacks on the global economic system, saying it could not longer be based "on a god called money".

In his message on Tuesday, Francis said migrants and refugees were also suffering from the effects of globalization.

"Development cannot be reduced to economic growth alone, often attained without a thought for the poor and the vulnerable," he said in the message.


Title: Pope Francis contemplates appointing a female cardinal
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 27, 2013, 05:21:05 pm
Pope Francis contemplates appointing a female cardinal
9/23/13
http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/09/23/inenglish/1379952868_934748.html

It’s not a joke. It’s something that Pope Francis has thought about before: naming a woman cardinal. Those who know the pope, both before and after he took over from Ratzinger, say that the first Jesuit pontiff is not only surprising people with his comments, but also with his actions. And this has been happening throughout his first six months in the role.

Those who think that Francis – who has all the simplicity of a parish priest – is a naïve man are wrong. This pope isn’t an ordinary pope. He has come to St. Peter’s with concrete plans for the Catholic Church: he wants to revive Christianity by taking it back to its origins.

The symbolism of his actions began when he first appeared on the balcony at St. Peter’s, calling himself “a bishop” and asking the people to bless him. Since then, he has wasted no time in making unexpected decisions, which have shocked those both inside and outside the Church.

And he will continue to do so, especially with his plans to appoint a female cardinal. He knows that a woman’s role in the Church is an unresolved issue that cannot wait any longer. He was clear about this during his interview with La Civiltà Cattolica last week. “The Church cannot be herself without the woman and her role,” he said. “The woman is essential for the Church. Mary, a woman, is more important than the bishops. I say this because we must not confuse the function with the dignity.”

In other words, it was as if Pope Francis was saying: “The Church isn’t complete because the woman’s role is missing.”

How can he introduce that essential component? He answered the question himself during the interview: “We must therefore investigate further the role of women in the Church. We have to work harder to develop a profound theology of the woman.”

And that theology, according to the pope, cannot be construed within the Vatican’s walls.” The feminine genius is needed wherever we make important decisions,” he said.

He may pave the way with discussions that urgently put the issue of a woman’s role in the Church on the table, or better yet, “in front of the altar.” And one of those gestures could be the naming of the first female cardinal. Is that feat impossible? No, because canonical law states that cardinals don’t have to be priests, they can be deacons.

Some would argue that women are not allowed to be deacons as they were 800 years ago among the first Christian communities. But this is one of the reforms that Francis has in mind; it is not based on any dogma. A woman could become a deaconess tomorrow if he so desired.

As Phyllis Zagano of Loyola University in Chicago, an expert on the issue, wrote: “A female deaconess is not an idea for the future. It is an issue for the present and today.”

Zagano brought up the matter with Cardinal Ratzinger before he became pope. “This is something that is being studied,” he told her. Pope Benedict XVI did not follow through but Pope Francis might.

The Armenian Apostolic Church and the Greek Orthodox Church, which have close links to the Vatican, both have deaconesses.

Any woman who is appointed deaconess can indeed become a cardinal without having to change canonical law.

Cardinals serve as advisors to the pope and their primary function is to elect a new pontiff.

“Knowing this pope, he wouldn’t hesitate before appointing a woman cardinal,” said one Jesuit priest. “And he would indeed enjoy being the first pope to allow women to participate in the selection of a new pontiff.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 30, 2013, 11:07:45 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-unveil-sainthood-date-john-paul-ii-john-022413901.html

Former popes to be made saints on April 27
9/30/13

Vatican City (AFP) - The Vatican on Monday said late popes John Paul II and John XXIII would be made saints at an unprecedented joint ceremony on April 27, 2014 in a bid to unite Catholic conservatives and liberals.

Pope Francis made the historic announcement at a meeting of cardinals known as a consistory.

The canonisation of the two popes is expected to bring hundreds of thousands of pilgrims to Rome.

The popular Polish pope John Paul and his Italian predecessor known as "Good Pope John", are two of modern-day Catholicism's most influential figures.

The double sainthood is seen by Vatican watchers as an attempt to breach a traditional left-right divide in the Church.

"John XXIII is generally a hero to the church's progressive wing while John Paul II is typically lionized by Catholic conservatives," said John Allen, from the National Catholic Reporter, a US weekly.

Allen said the decision could be interpreted as "a statement that any attempt to set them at odds is artificial, and that what they had in common is more fundamental than any perceived differences".

Sainthood normally requires two "confirmed" miracles, though Francis has approved the canonisation of John XXIII (1958-1963) -- with whom he shares a common touch and reformist views -- based on just one.

John Paul II, who served as pontiff from 1978 to 2005, was credited with his first miracle just six months after his death, when a French nun said she had been cured, through prayer, of Parkinson’s -- a disease he had also suffered from.

His second miracle was reportedly carried out on a woman in Costa Rica, who said she was healed from a serious brain condition by praying for John Paul's intercession on the same day he was beatified in 2011.

The Polish pope was popular throughout his 27-year papacy and helped topple Communism -- although he alienated many with his conservative views and was blamed for hushing up paedophile priest scandals.

At his funeral in 2005, crowds of mourners cried "Santo Subito!" -- "Sainthood Now!" -- prompting the Vatican to speed up the path to sainthood, which normally begins five years after death.

John XXIII made his name by calling the historic Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) which overhauled the Church's rituals and doctrines and reached out to other faiths.

Many compare the Italian pope, who died in 1963, with the current head of the Roman Catholic Church for their similar pastoral attitudes, humble, open manner and sense of humour.

The reportedly miraculous healing of an Italian nun who had severe internal hemorrhages was attributed to John XXIII when he was beatified in 2000.

Francis is believed to have waived the need for a second miracle because his canonisation had been called for by the participants of the Second Vatican Council in 1965, who wanted to pay homage to the man who ushered the Church into modern times.

Francis also promises to be a reformist pope, planning an overhaul of the Vatican bureaucracy and finances and promising a "poor Church for the poor".

On Tuesday, he will begin three days of talks with an advisory board of eight cardinals he has appointed to help him clean up the troubled Roman Curia -- the intrigue-filled administration -- and improve communication between the Vatican and local churches.

Vatican experts say it is not clear whether details from the meetings will be made public, but liberal Catholics hope that the conciliatory tone adopted by Francis on many issues will translate into action.

Topics may include the role of women in the Church, whether priests should be able to marry, if Catholics who remarry should receive the Eucharist and the Church's position on homosexuality and gay clergy.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 01, 2013, 05:09:53 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-reform-wants-church-modern-spirit-122534863.html
Pope urges reform, wants church with modern spirit
10/1/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis says he doesn't want a "Vatican-centric" church concerned about itself but a missionary church that reaches out to the poor, the young, the elderly and even to non-believers. That's the vision he laid out as he opened a landmark meeting Tuesday on reforming the 2,000-year-old institution.

**This is the same thing the Emergent Church pushes...no surprise, as the EC is pushing RCC agendas.

Francis convened the inaugural meeting of his eight cardinal advisers for three days of brainstorming on revamping the antiquated Vatican bureaucracy and other reforms. The move fulfills a key mandate of the cardinals who elected him: They wanted a pope who would involve local church leaders in helping make decisions about the 1.2-billion strong church.

The closed-door meeting got underway against the backdrop of one of the most tangible signs that change is already afoot: The secretive Vatican bank, under investigation for alleged money-laundering by Italian prosecutors, released its first-ever annual report Tuesday, the latest step toward financial transparency championed by Francis and his predecessor Benedict XVI.

Net earnings at the bank, known as the Institute for Religious Works, rose more than four-fold to 86.6 million euros ($116.95 million) in 2012, the report said. More than 50 million euros of that was given to the pope for his charitable works.

Francis has put the Vatican bank on notice, forming a commission of inquiry to look into its activities amid accusations by Italian prosecutors that its clients may have used its lax controls to launder money. The bank's two top managers have already resigned and a Vatican monsignor has been arrested after trying to smuggle 20 million euros into Italy from Switzerland without declaring it at customs.

Francis has formed another commission of inquiry to look into the Vatican's overall financial health, but his decision to name the eight cardinals from around the world as a permanent advisory panel represents the most significant sign that he wants to shake things up at the Vatican.

No decisions are expected this week and Francis himself has said the reform process will take time.

The eight cardinals include Sean O'Malley, the archbishop of Boston and a longtime friend of Francis; Cardinals Oswald Gracias, archbishop of Mumbai, India; Laurent Monsengwo Pasinya, archbishop of Kinshasa, Congo; and Reinhard Marx, archbishop of Munich and Freising, Germany, all of whom head bishops conferences in their regions.

It's unclear how this parallel cabinet will work with the outdated Vatican bureaucracy that constitutes a pope's primary cabinet, known as the Vatican Curia. A scandal over leaked papal documents last year showed the Curia to be a dysfunctional warren of political infighting and turf battles, fueling calls for reform from the cardinals.

On the same day the inaugural "Group of Eight" meeting started, Rome daily La Repubblica published a lengthy interview with Francis, in which he denounced the "Vatican-centric" nature of the Holy See administration and acknowledged that popes in the past had been infatuated with the pomp of the Vatican.

"Heads of the church have often been narcissists, flattered and thrilled by their courtiers," Francis said. "The court is the leprosy of the papacy."

For someone who has said he abhors giving interviews, Francis has made himself remarkably amenable to taking questions about his faith and vision for the church.

The pope also explained his affinity for his namesake St. Francis, whose tomb he will visit Friday in Assisi, the hilltop town where St. Francis preached his gospel of poverty and caring for the most destitute.

Francis said he wanted a missionary church just like that: "We need to give hope to young people, help the aged and open ourselves toward the future and spread love."

**It seems like in our modern-day culture, it's the young people that are being targeted first and foremost, and that includes churches doing it too. No surprise b/c part of the Jesuit agenda a long time ago was to take over the education system.

He said the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-65 meetings that brought the church into the modern world, had promised such an opening to people of other faiths and non-believers but the church hadn't made progress since then.

"I have the humility and ambition to do so," he said.

During the interview, Francis showed his wry sense of humor — there was talk about the pope and his atheist interviewer trying to convert one another — but also his very human fears right after he was elected, when he said he was "seized by a great anxiety."

"To make it go away and relax, I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows," he recounted.

"At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting."

He said he signed the acceptance form and went out on the balcony to be introduced to the world as Pope Francis.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 02, 2013, 06:18:36 am
He is really pushing this into the new-age, we are witnessing the merging of the two beliefs...

Pope Francis stirs debate yet again with interview with an atheist Italian journalist
By Michelle Boorstein and Elizabeth Tenety, Published: October 1

Pope Francis cranked up his charm offensive on the world outside the Vatican on Tuesday, saying in the second widely shared media interview in two weeks that each person “must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them” and calling efforts to convert people to Christianity “solemn nonsense.”

The Vatican’s head seemed intent on distancing himself from its power, saying church leaders “have often been narcissists” and “clericalism should not have anything to do with Christianity.”

The interview with atheist Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari set off another round of debate about what the pope meant: Was he saying that people can make up their own minds, even if they disagree with church teachings? Or was this self-described “son of the church” just using casual language to describe classic church teaching about how people need to come to Catholic doctrine of their free will?

A top official with the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, took the unprecedented step of rebuking Francis, writing that the pope’s interview was “a theological wreck” and that Francis was dabbling dangerously in relativism.

“What these interviews seem continually to do is what evangelical theologian Carl Henry warned Protestants of in the 20th century, of severing the love of God from the holiness of God,” wrote the Rev. Russell Moore, a past dean of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and head of the convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. “We must speak with tenderness and gentleness, but with an authoritative word from God.”

Some conservative Catholics were also taken aback by the interview.

“My e-mail is filled with notes from people who need to be talked off the ledge,” wrote the Rev. John Zuhlsdorf, author of one of the more popular blogs for Catholic conservatives.

In what is quickly becoming classic Pope Francis, the back story of the interview was dramatically simple. The leader of the largest church in the world apparently picked up the phone and called Scalfari, founder of La Repubblica, who had requested an interview.

“Why so surprised?” the pope asked Scalfari (after being patched through by a shaky secretary at the newspaper). “You wrote me a letter asking to meet me in person. I had the same wish, so I’m calling to fix an appointment. Let me look at my diary: I can’t do Wednesday, nor Monday; would Tuesday suit you?”

After they set the time, Scalfari said he wasn’t sure how to end the call and asked for an embrace by phone. “Of course, a hug from me too,” the pope told him. “Then we will do it in person, goodbye.”

The interview was wide-ranging, including the pope’s story of a Communist friend he had as a young man (who was later tortured and killed by the Argentine military), a few movie recommendations as well as a mystical experience he had the night he was picked to be pope.

“My head was completely empty and I was seized by a great anxiety. To make it go away and relax I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows,” he said. “I closed my eyes and I no longer had any anxiety or emotion. At a certain point I was filled with a great light.”

But the parts of the interview that will be pored over are theological — the uncomplicated, unqualified language Francis uses to speak about faith. In this interview, as in the one two weeks ago by a group of Jesuit publications, connection to God doesn’t seem to depend on church hierarchy.

Asked if there is a single vision of good, and who decides, Francis says:

“Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is good . . . Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.”

Asked if he feels touched by grace, Francis tells the atheist reporter that the holy quality “is the amount of light in our souls, not knowledge nor reason. Even you, without knowing it, could be touched by grace.”

Chris Ruddy, a theologian at Catholic University, noted that Pope Benedict XVI had co-
authored a book with an atheist that said that “seekers and believers . . . must move towards one another,” but that Francis had clearly taken the concept of engagement to a new level. Catholic teaching, he noted, calls for people to follow their own consciences — but is referring to “formed” consciences steeped with education and prayer in proper doctrine.

“What the pope said can be taken a bunch of different ways. And it can certainly be taken in a relativistic way. And I imagine it will be received that way by some people,” Ruddy said. “But I don’t see the pope saying: ‘You have your idea, I have mine and it’s all good.’ I see him saying: ‘We have to respect persons and their search for truth.’ ”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pope-francis-stirs-debate-yet-again-with-interview-with-an-atheist-italian-journalist/2013/10/01/9e7a6790-2acb-11e3-97a3-ff2758228523_print.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 02, 2013, 09:47:42 am
This Pope is using his words so craftily, that it's just enough to stir both debate and strife.

Like I mentioned earlier, at one GOP establishment forum I look at, they are still debating heavily with each other over his comments(some are seeing his true colors, while others think his comments are somehow being taken out of context).

BUT - this is how the Hegelian Dialectic game is played. When all is said and done, all of this never-ending debate and strife will end up merging all camps together.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 04, 2013, 11:38:17 am
http://news.yahoo.com/u-catholics-back-pope-francis-changing-churchs-focus-100249104.html
10/4/13
U.S. Catholics back Pope Francis on changing church's focus

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Pope Francis' comments that the Catholic Church should not focus so much on homosexuality, abortion and contraception have met with strong approval from U.S. Catholics, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released on Friday.

Sixty-eight percent of American Catholics agree with comments the Pope made to that effect in an interview published last month in the Jesuit magazine Civilta Cattolica, while 23 percent disagreed, according to the poll. There was little difference in opinion between observant and less-observant Catholics, women and men, and among age groups, the poll found.

American Catholics also like their new pope, with 89 percent having a "favorable" or "very favorable" opinion, and only 4 percent voicing an unfavorable opinion, the poll found.

"Maybe they were just waiting for a Jesuit," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Hamden, Connecticut-based Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. Francis is the first pope from the religious order of the Jesuits, an order known for its intellectuals and iconoclasts.

In the interview, Francis reaffirmed traditional church teachings, but said the church must "find a new balance" or risk seeing its entire moral edifice collapse "like a house of cards."

The poll also found that 60 percent of American Catholics support women's ordination - though the Pope had recently reaffirmed the ban on women's ordination. Support is highest among those who attend services less frequently and Catholics over the age of 65.

The survey also found that Catholic opinion on abortion is similar to the opinion of all American adults - with 52 percent of Catholics saying abortion should be legal in all or most cases, compared with 53 percent of the general public.

The poll surveyed 1,776 American adults, with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points, and 392 Catholics with a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

(Reporting by Mary Wisniewski; editing by Scott Malone and Matthew Lewis)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 05, 2013, 05:32:37 am
Pope Francis marks Assisi visit with call for church to shun worldliness
During visit to Assisi where Saint Francis lived in 12th century, pontiff says worldliness leads to vanity, arrogance and pride


The Roman Catholic church, from the lowliest priest to the pontiff himself, must strip itself of all vanity, arrogance and pride and humbly serve the poorest members of society, Pope Francis has said.

The pope's appeal, made in the central Italian town of Assisi where his namesake Saint Francis lived in the 12th century, comes amid a drive by Francis to turn around a church plagued by financial and sexual abuse scandals.

Saint Francis is revered by Catholics and many other Christians for his simple values, poverty and love of nature, qualities the Argentinian-born Francis has made the keynote of his papacy since his election in March.

"This is a good occasion to invite the church to strip itself of worldliness," he said in a room that marks the spot where Saint Francis stripped naked as a young man, renounced his wealthy family and set out to serve the poor.

"There is a danger that threatens everyone in the church, all of us. The danger of worldliness. It leads us to vanity, arrogance and pride," said Francis in the richly frescoed room of the residence of the archbishop of Assisi.

As he has often done, Francis spoke impromptu after putting aside prepared versions of two speeches, clearly moved by the sick and the poor people present in the room.

Francis has brought a new style of openness, consultation and simplicity to the Vatican. A few days after his election he said he wanted to see "a church that is poor and for the poor".

He has shunned the spacious papal apartments for spartan quarters in a Vatican guesthouse and has urged all members of the clergy, regardless of rank, to spurn comfort and get out among the poor and needy.

Francis said all members of the church, including bishops, cardinals and the pope himself, had to avoid the pitfalls of attaching importance to worldly things and to be more humble.

"Worldliness brings us to vanity, arrogance, pride and these are idols … All of us have to strip ourselves of this worldliness," he said.

Francis, the first non-European pope in 1,300 years and the first from Latin America, has formed three committees to advise him on making the Vatican more transparent, particularly in its financial dealings.

He has also said that Catholic convents and monasteries that are empty should be opened up to house migrants and refugees.

Francis was visibly moved when he heard the stories of some of the poor people in the room. "Many of you have been stripped by this savage world that does not give employment, that does not help, that does not care if there are children in the world who are dying of hunger, does not care if so many families have nothing to eat," he said.

He decried a world "that does not care about many people who have to flee poverty and hunger, flee seeking freedom and many times they find death, as happened yesterday in Lampedusa".

Francis was referring to the sinking of a migrant boat off the southern Italian island, in which more than 300 people are believed to have died. "Today is a day for crying," Francis said of the tragedy.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/pope-francis-assisi-church-worldliness

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 05, 2013, 05:34:10 am
POPE TRIP TO ST. FRANCIS' TOWN HIGHLIGHTS GOALS

 Pope Francis broke bread with the poor and embraced the disabled on a pilgrimage to his namesake's hometown Friday, urging the faithful to follow the example of the 13th-century St. Francis, who renounced a wealthy, dissolute lifestyle to embrace a life of poverty and service to the poor.

According to tradition, God told St. Francis to "repair my house," and the first pope to take the saint's name has made clear that he sees that as his own mission as well.

For Francis, that means reaching out to the most marginalized among the church's 1.2 billion followers, reforming the broken Vatican bureaucracy, and allowing the faithful to shake things up in their dioceses - even at the annoyance of their bishops - if that's what it takes to better spread God's word.

After all, the pope said, St. Francis was a radical himself in his complete devotion to his faith - a model that can serve Catholics today.

Here are the main goals Pope Francis has set out for his church, highlighted during his visit to the hilltop town of Assisi, whose native son has inspired his papacy:

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A CHURCH `THAT IS POOR AND FOR THE POOR'

Francis had lunch with a group of poor at a soup kitchen after demanding that the faithful "strip" themselves of their worldly attachment to wealth, which he said is killing the church and its souls. He delivered that exhortation during the most evocative stop of the day, in the simple room where St. Francis stripped off his clothes, renounced his wealth and vowed to live a life of poverty. Since becoming pope in March, Francis has made it clear that one of his principal objectives is a church that is humble, looks out for the poorest and brings them hope. The "slum pope," as he is known because of his work in Argentina's shantytowns, recently denounced the "idolatry" of money and encouraged those without the "dignity" of work.

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A CHURCH THAT WELCOMES AND DOESN'T JUDGE

Francis' first stop in Assisi was to an institute that cares for gravely disabled children, who in the words of the director are often seen as "stones cast aside," invisible and neglected by the world. Francis caressed and kissed each child, saying their "scars need to be recognized and listened to." It was part of the simple message of love that he has brought to others often considered outcasts, such as drug addicts and convicts. His "who am I to judge?" comment about gays over the summer was another reflection of this message of merciful welcome. It represented a radical shift in tone for the Vatican. Catholic teaching holds that all people should be treated with dignity and respect, so Francis was making no change in doctrine. But church teaching also holds that gay acts are "intrinsically disordered" - a point Francis has neglected to emphasize in favor of a message of inclusion.

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A FEMININE CHURCH

Francis has called for a greater role for women in the governance of the church, while ruling out female ordination. He says the church itself is female, that Jesus Christ was married to the church and that Mary is more important than all the apostles. On Friday, Francis paid special attention to the women of the church, visiting the cloistered Sisters of St. Clare, an order founded by one of St. Francis' followers. In the Basilica of St. Clare, Pope Francis told the nuns that they must be mothers to the church and be joyful. "It makes me sad when I find sisters who aren't joyful," he lamented. "They might smile, but with just a smile they could be flight attendants!" He showed that same sense of humor later when he told a story about a mother who lamented that her 30-year-old son still hadn't gotten married - a reference to a generation of Italian men who seem unwilling to move out: "Signora," Francis recalled telling her. "Stop ironing his shirts!"

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A CHURCH THAT IS `MESSY' AND GOES OUTSIDE THE SACRISTY

St. Francis was considered a radical disobedient for having renounced everything and given himself entirely to his faith, but that's just the type of radical witness Pope Francis wants for today's Catholics. Francis told Argentine pilgrims during World Youth Day in July to make a "mess" in their dioceses and shake things up. He hopes the church will stop being so inward-looking, and instead go out to the peripheries to spread the faith, just like St. Francis. The pope's first trip outside Rome was to Lampedusa, a southern Italian island closer to Africa than the Italian mainland. His eulogy for all migrants lost at sea denounced a "globalization of indifference," a prescient message given Thursday's shipwreck off Lampedusa that killed scores of migrants. As black mourning ribbons hung from Assisi's banners, Francis proclaimed Friday "a day of tears."

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A CHURCH THAT WORKS FOR PEACE AND CARES FOR THE ENVIRONMENT

Assisi is known for its message of peace, drawing people of all faiths - and no faith - for annual peace pilgrimages to the basilica dominating the hill and its magnificent frescos by Giotto and Cimabue. The town takes its cue from St. Francis, who preached a message of peace and care for nature. But Pope Francis lamented Friday that the saint's message is often misunderstood, "sweetened" into something he didn't represent. A Vatican spokesman put it this way: "Too often his message is lost and we reduce his role to that of a gentle, whimsical hippie who fed birds, smelled flowers and tamed wild wolves." Pope Francis said the saint's message was to truly "love one another as I have loved you," calling for an end to all the wars in the Middle East, especially Syria. The pope has been steadfast in his call for peace in Syria, inspiring hundreds of thousands of people around the world to hold a day of fasting and prayer when it appeared military strikes against the Damascus regime were imminent.

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A REFORMED CHURCH

Francis was elected on a mandate to reform the church, and he has set about doing that. One of his first stops Friday was to pray at the sanctuary of St. Damian, where the saint in 1205 famously was told to take a broken church and rebuild it. The pope has just finished three days of meetings with advisers from churches around the globe helping him rewrite the main blueprint for how the Catholic Church is governed. Ideas include having a "moderator" to make the Vatican bureaucracy run more smoothly and a diminished role for the Vatican's powerful secretary of state. In an indication that a shift is already underway, the secretary of state didn't accompany Francis to Assisi, though his eight cardinal advisers did - a symbolic changing of the guard in favor of less centralized church authority. The reforms also include involving lay men and women more in the life of the church. Just as St. Francis wanted.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE_ASSISI?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-04-07-28-50


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 07, 2013, 10:12:05 am
Pope Francis: ‘I Believe In God, Not In A Catholic God’

Pope Francis has been making headlines ever since the pontiff was announced as the Roman Catholic Church’s leader, and now he’s getting even more attention because he recently said, “I believe in God, not in a Catholic God.” He essentially took a dig at the Catholic Church hierarchy by condemning its “Vatican-centric view.”

“I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation,” the pope said in an interview with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, as quoted by the Inquisitr. “Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?”
 
The pontiff added he does not agree with everything his religion stands for: “This Vatican-centric view neglects the world around us,” he said. “I do not share this view, and I’ll do everything I can to change to it.”
 
Pope Francis plans to do so by being more involved with the community. He stated his plan: “The church is or should go back to being a community of God’s people, and priests, pastors and bishops who have the care of souls, are at the service of the people of God.”
 
Eugenio Scalfari, the co-founder and former editor of La Repubblica was surprised to get the exclusive interview with the pope in the first place, but even more so once he talked to him.
 
“‘God is not Catholic,’” Scalfari quoted the pope as saying, according to NBC News. Confused, he asked Pope Francis to elaborate, and the pontiff reportedly replied, “‘God is universal, and we are catholic in the sense of the way we worship him.’”
 
Pope Francis was reportedly taken aback when he was elected pope by the conclave in March. He thought about refusing for a moment, but then accepted his role. “When in the conclave they elected me pope, I asked for some time alone before I accepted,” he said in the interview. “I was overwhelmed by great anxiety, then I closed my eyes and all thoughts, including the possibility of refusing, went away.”

http://www.ibtimes.com/pope-francis-i-believe-god-not-catholic-god-1415620?utm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 07, 2013, 10:15:38 am
Quote
“I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation,” the pope said in an interview with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, as quoted by the Inquisitr. “Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?”

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“‘God is universal, and we are catholic in the sense of the way we worship him.’”

 ??? First he doesnt belive in the catholic god, but he believes in the universal god?  lets see here...

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What "Catholic" Means

The Greek roots of the term "Catholic" mean "according to (kata-) the whole (holos)," or more colloquially, "universal." At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term "Catholic" in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.

rest: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/what-catholic-means

SOOOOOoooo... we can see that Frank is lying again, as he does believe in the catholic god. And i know her name  ;)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 07, 2013, 11:08:35 am
It's obvious over the games Pope Frankie is playing with the Catholic Church pews - he's getting everyone to argue and debate among themselves. At one GOP establishment forum I look at(for news articles), they are doing just that - while some are seeing his true colors, there are others that are really fighting hard and pushing back like either his comments were somehow taken out of context or somehow he was speaking in a different context.

Ultimately, all this will do is wear everyone out in the Hegelian Dialectic process - there will come a day when Frankie will explicitly endorse gay marriage and atheism, and all of his flock will end up buying everything he says(ie-the "liberal media" critics like Brent Bozell and Sean Hannity will do the same).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on October 07, 2013, 03:22:55 pm
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“Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator

While subtle, he still adheres to the Catholic trinity tradition, separating God the Father from Jesus, and then incorrectly claiming that God is the light, when clearly scripture says Jesus is the light of the world. And he doesn't acknowledge that it is in fact more correct to say that it is the Holy Ghost that is his teacher, though the indwelling of the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ in you.

"...doctrines of men..."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 10, 2013, 01:15:03 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/casual-pope-puts-vatican-alert-quips-132010700.html
Casual pope puts Vatican on alert with quips
10/9/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis has grabbed headlines with his off-the-cuff homilies, crowd-pleasing one-liners and lengthy interviews during which he has pontificated on everything from the church's "obsession" with rules to how he won't judge gays. But his chattiness has gotten him into some trouble, and the Vatican has gone into damage-control mode to clarify, correct or put his comments into context. Here's a look at some of Francis' more eyebrow-raising comments, and the efforts by the Vatican's spin doctors to address them.

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DID FRANCIS REALLY CONSIDER TURNING DOWN THE JOB?

In an interview with the Rome daily La Repubblica, editor Eugenio Scalfari quoted the pope as saying he was "seized by a great anxiety" moments after his election and asked the cardinals in the Sistine Chapel to give him a few minutes time to think things over.

"To make it go away and relax, I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows," he was quoted as saying. "At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting." The pope was quoted as saying he signed the acceptance form and went out on the balcony to be introduced to the world as Pope Francis.

But the Rev. Thomas Rosica, who helps with Vatican media relations, later said the interview didn't reflect Francis' real words. He said Scalfari neither recorded the conversation nor took notes, reconstructing the conversation from memory and printing it as a verbatim interview. The Vatican doesn't dispute the overall thrust of the interview, which Scalfari said he submitted to Francis for review and which the Vatican newspaper reprinted verbatim. But Rosica said the purported "mystical" experience recounted by Repubblica after the election didn't happen, though Francis himself has said previously and in public that "I didn't want to be pope."

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CAN ATHEISTS BE SAVED?

One of the novelties introduced by Francis has been his daily 7 a.m. Mass in the Vatican hotel, to which groups and individuals are invited. Francis delivers homilies each day, the contents of which are summarized by Vatican Radio. On May 22, he caused no shortage of confusion when he suggested that even atheists could find salvation.

According to church teaching, the Catholic Church holds the "fullness of the means of salvation" — a message that has long been taken to mean that only Catholics can find salvation. But in his homily, Francis said: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!"

Rosica issued a lengthy "explanatory note" a few days later after being inundated with questions about whether Francis was changing church doctrine on salvation. He noted that church teaching also holds that "those who through no fault of their own" don't know about Jesus but seek God and try to do his will can also attain eternal salvation.

"Always keep in mind the audience and context of Pope Francis' homilies," Rosica cautioned. "His words are not spoken in the context of a theological faculty or academy nor in interreligious dialogue or debate. He speaks in the context of Mass."

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SHOULD THE VATICAN BANK BE SAVED?

On April 24, Francis invited members of the Vatican bank to join him for Mass in the hotel. The Institute for Religious Works, as the bank is known, has been plagued by scandals — most recently over the arrest of a Vatican monsignor on charges he tried to smuggle some 20 million euro ($26 million) into Italy from Switzerland without declaring it at customs.

Given the scandals, the arrival of a reform-minded, non-nonsense pope has prompted a flurry of speculation that Francis might shut the bank down. So imagine the headlines that followed his April 24 homily, when he lamented how the church can sometimes become too bureaucratic, too much like an aid group, and that bureaucracies are necessary up to a point.

"The church isn't an NGO, it's a story of love," Francis told the bank's staff in the pews. "But there are the IOR folks here, excuse me, OK? Everything is necessary, offices are necessary, OK, but they're only necessary up to a certain point: as a help to this story of love. But when the organization loses this primary place, when the love is gone, the poor church becomes an NGO. And this isn't the way to go."

Archbishop Angelo Becciu, under secretary of the Vatican secretariat of state, told the Vatican newspaper a few days later that Francis was by no means hinting that he might shut down the Vatican bank.

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THE VICAR OF CHRIST SAID WHAT?

Sometimes, Francis' one-liners don't warrant Vatican clarification, but they're worth repeating simply because they came from the lips of the Successor of Peter, Vicar of Christ, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church:

— Francis urged the church to "strip" itself of its worldy attachment to wealth during his Oct. 4 trip to Assisi and focus instead on the basics of Christ's teachings. "You might say, 'Can't we have a more human Christianity, without the cross, without Jesus, without stripping ourselves?'" he asked rhetorically. "In this way we'd become pastry-shop Christians, like a pretty cake and nice sweet things. Pretty, but not true Christians."

—Francis was asked June 7 why he chose to live in the Vatican hotel rather than the fancier Apostolic Palace where his predecessors lived. "If I was living alone, isolated, it wouldn't be good for me," he told students of Jesuit schools. "A professor asked me the same question, 'Why don't you go and live there (in the papal apartments)'? And I replied: 'Listen to me professor, it is for psychiatric reasons.'"

—The pope has urged nuns and sisters to be like joyful mothers to the church, caring for its flock, and not act like they're "old maids." ''It makes me sad when I find sisters who aren't joyful," he lamented during his Oct. 4 visit to a cloistered convent in Assisi. "They might smile, but with just a smile they could be flight attendants!"

Given Francis' wry sense of humor and willingness to regularly ditch speeches prepared for him, the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said he wants the faithful to know the difference between a pontifical joke and an encyclical, a clever quip in a homily and infallible teaching.

"There are different genres of expression, some are magisterial and official, others are more pastoral," Lombardi told The Associated Press. "They have a different doctrinal value."




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 11, 2013, 11:52:22 am
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/10/vatican-misspells-jesus-name-on-papal-medal/
Vatican Misspells Jesus’ Name on Papal Medal
10/10/13

Someone is going to be saying a “mea culpa.”

A medal issued by the Vatican commemorating Pope Francis’ first year as the Bishop of Rome included a rather glaring spelling error, a typo of Biblical proportions.

Engraved with the Latin phrase that the pope says inspired him to join the priesthood as a young man, Italy’s state mint misspelled the name of Jesus, calling the son of God Lesus instead.

The medals, of which 6,000 were pressed in silver and bronze and another 200 in gold, have now been recalled. The design included a portrait of Pope Francis on the obverse and on the reverse a work by the artist Mariangela Crisciotti.

The medals were to go on sale Tuesday and include the Latin inscription: “Vidit ergo Jesus publicanum et quia miserando atque eligendo vidit, ait illi sequere me,” according to the Vatican press office.

Mistakenly, however, the word “Lesus” was printed instead.

The phrase it the pope’s motto. It means, “Jesus, therefore, saw the publican, and because he saw by having mercy and by choosing, He said to him, ‘Follow me.’”

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ht_pope_francis_medal_jesus_misspelled_16x9_608.jpg)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on October 11, 2013, 02:09:44 pm
How ironic. And even more so by them having that verse reference about following Jesus, with the pope's image on the other side. ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 11, 2013, 03:22:12 pm
Muslim Leader Says Pope Francis ‘Resonates With the Muslim World’

 The president of the Islamic Affairs Council of Maryland offered high praise for Pope Francis, saying the Catholic leader “resonates with the Muslim world,” much like the saint from whom he takes his name. "From my perspective, Pope Francis is really doing a wonderful job in terms of outreach, in terms of contributing to world peace, in terms of contributing to stopping wars and conflicts, praying for better understanding," said Imam Mohamad Bashar Arafat in an interview with Catholic News Service.

http://news.yahoo.com/muslim-leader-says-pope-francis-%E2%80%98resonates-with-the-muslim-world%E2%80%99-233413262.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on October 11, 2013, 03:27:04 pm
What hypocrisy! He praises him, when in reality, he considers the pope, as with any non-Muslims, inferior to Muslims.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 15, 2013, 09:03:06 pm
Not everyone loves Pope Francis: Conservative Catholics voice concern over 'revolutionary' message
10/15/13
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/15/20886834-not-everyone-loves-pope-francis-conservative-catholics-voice-concern-over-revolutionary-message?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

Pope Francis' plain-spoken populism has won rave reviews, from people in the pews to the man in the Oval Office, but his pronouncements on everything from atheists to abortion have shaken some conservative and traditional Catholics.

Six months after he was installed on the Throne of St. Peter, the pontiff's comments in a series of interviews are being denounced in scattered corners as "reckless" or even "borderline heretical." One critic called him "the Joe Biden of our era."

"The whispers are rising," said Steve Skojec, 35, a father of six from Manassas, Va., who said a scathing blog post he wrote about the pope's recent remarks got 20,000 views, compared with the usual 500. "There are more and more people who are feeling uncomfortable."

The skepticism rides behind a wave of praise for the down-to-earth Argentine — applauded for choosing Jesuit simplicity over Vatican opulence, emphasizing the poor and tweaking the powerful, and checking stridency at the door when talking about gay marriage, contraception or whether non-believers get into heaven.

"Best pope ever" is a frequent appraisal on Twitter, and President Obama, a Protestant, told CNBC this month that he is "hugely impressed" by the rookie leader of the world's 1.1 billion Roman Catholics.

The broad-based adulation — only 4% of Americans in a recent poll had an unfavorable view of the pope — is vexing pockets of conservatives who want a harder line on core doctrine and who worry that even if Francis has not altered church teachings, his words will be misinterpreted or exploited.

"I'm very disturbed by these off-the-cuff, informal remarks," said Christopher Ferrara, a columnist for The Remnant, a Catholic newspaper that opposes many of the changes that accompanied Second Vatican Council in the 1960s.

"In one sense, there's no harm because church teaching has not been changed, but in the other sense there is tremendous harm because not everyone understands church teaching," added Ferrara, who is drafting a letter to the Vatican requesting clarification on some of the pope's positions.

He pointed to a Kansas women's clinic that posted on its fence a quote from Francis — saying Catholics should not focus only on hot-button issues like abortion and contraception — as a rebuke to protesters.

Julie Burkhart, director of the South Wind Women's Clinic in Wichita, said she put up the sign so "the people coming here to protest us and harassing our patients might pause and think about what else they could be doing with their time."

David Gittrich of Kansans for Life shot back that the quote was "taken out of context" and that it was "ridiculous" for the clinic to suggest the pope wants to dissuade anti-abortion activism.

Many rank-and-file Catholics and commentators, even those who consider themselves religiously conservative, say Francis is tinkering with style, not substance. But others are quietly nervous — or loudly aghast.

“Is Pope Francis a wishy-washy spineless pope?  Perhaps a pawn, to be used by the liberals inside and outside the Church?" asked the author of the Connecticut Catholic Corner blog, who declined to speak on the record.

"I have a very dear Catholic friend who is freaking out because I am 'having issues' with Pope Francis.  It’s not that I don’t WANT to like him and think highly of him, I do.  I really, really do.  But… it’s just not happening for me.”

John Vennari, a traditional Catholicism advocate, put forth a conspiratorial view in a YouTube video, suggesting the pope's interviews are a way for him to get around writing encyclicals that would contradict church doctrine and the powerful Rome-based cardinals who would object to that.

“He’s leaping over their heads just to take this revolutionary message just straight to the people,” Vennari said.

Skojec said that because many people believe — mistakenly, he said — that anything the pope says is "infalliable," a pontiff has to be "very prudent and circumspect." Instead, he wrote, Francis has been "utterly reckless, theologically misleading, and borderline heretical."

Fans of Francis have predicted that his gentler tone might bring lapsed Catholics and young people into the church, but detractors say it might drive away a certain brand of congregant.

The Society of Saint Pius X, a breakaway group, said in a statement that the recent interviews had "provoked some new interest" in them and predicted membership would grow, "if the Holy Father confirms the direction he seems to be taking."

Stephen Heiner — founder of TrueRestoration.org a member of the sedevacantist movement, which argues there hasn't been a true pope in Rome since Vatican II —said the number of people listening to his podcast doubled from about 4,000 to 8,000 in reaction to the pope's statements.

"The fact that we, who could be considered fringe, are attracting listeners speaks to the discontent," he said.

He added that Francis' language in the media interviews was "inelegant," in contrast to the formality of written communiques like encyclicals.

"He's the Joe Biden of our era," he said.

Jeffrey Tucker, editor of the New Liturgical Movement blog, said the super-traditionalists should relax, even though he admitted Francis left him unsettled at first because he is so different from his more formal predecessor.

"All of us miss Benedict — we just do. It's kind of how the kids never like the new stepfather," Tucker said. "You get groovy with it and everything's OK. There's a group of traditionalists that just don't get it, and they're terrified."

Boston College theology professor Thomas Groome said it's easy to see why reactionaries would be on edge. While the pope hasn't messed with doctrine, a shift in priorities and pitch is clearly underway, he said.

"I think it will be a real test for conservative Catholics," he said. "They have always pointed the finger, quoting the pope for the last 35 years. Suddenly, will they stop quoting the pope. It'll be a good test of whether or not they're really Catholics."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 19, 2013, 04:07:18 pm
Pope Plans to Visit Israel as Early as Next Year
Trip to Israel Would Come After Pontiff's Strong Condemnations of Anti-Semitism


 Pope Francis plans to visit Israel as soon as next year, the Vatican said, in what could be a landmark visit for a pontiff who has already won plaudits from the Jewish community for his strong condemnation of anti-Semitism.

On Thursday, the pope also met at the Vatican with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who invited him to visit Palestine as well. Israeli President Shimon Peres had already extended an invitation to the pope to visit the Holy Land shortly after the pontiff's election in March.

Following the invitation from Mr. Abbas, "we can now start thinking in a more concrete way regarding the planning of the visit," said Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi, adding that it could take place in 2014.

A papal trip to Israel and the Palestinian territories would follow in the footsteps of Pope Francis's predecessors, Benedict XVI and John Paul II. Both sought to promote Christian reconciliation with Judaism as emphasized in the key 1962-65 Second Vatican Council and do away with any vestiges of anti-Semitism after centuries of ambiguity within the church.

A visit by Pope Francis, who has so far made only one overseas trip since his appointment, could advance that dialogue. "We can see the steady and ongoing commitment of the Catholic Church on improving Catholic-Jewish relations," said Chad Pecknold, assistant professor of theology at The Catholic University of America in Washington DC.

During his young papacy, Pope Francis has reached out to the Jewish community on several fronts. Last week, he met with members of Rome's Jewish community to mark the 70th anniversary of the start of deportations of Italian Jews from Rome to Nazi concentration camps during the German occupation of Italy. On Oct. 16, 1943, more than 1,000 Roman Jews were deported. Only 16 returned home.

"For many centuries…the Jewish community and the Church of Rome have lived in our city, with a history—as we well know—that was often traversed by misunderstandings and even true grievances," Pope Francis said at the meeting.

This week, the Vatican also banned churches in Rome from holding a funeral for Erich Priebke, a former German commander who played a role in a wartime massacre of Italian partisans and civilians. Mr. Priebke's arrest, and subsequent conviction and life sentence, was an important milestone for Rome's 2,000-year old Roman Jewish community.

"It's a contradiction for a Christian to be anti-Semitic: His roots are Jewish," the pope said last week.

The pope's visit to the Holy Land would also forward his appeal for peace in the Middle East.

"Pope Francis has already been very clear about his priority for the poor, the marginalized, the suffering and the oppressed of the world," said Scott Appleby, director of the University of Notre Dame's Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies. "His focus [in the trip to the Holy Land] will be on the human toll of the conflict."

In Thursday's meeting with Mr. Abbas, the two men discussed the political conflict in the region and, in particular, the reinstatement of negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians in the "hope that this process may bear fruit and enable a just and lasting solution to be found to the conflict," the Vatican said in a statement.

When Pope Francis gave Mr. Abbas as a gift a pen Thursday, the Palestinian president told him, "I hope to use this pen to sign the peace treaty with Israel."

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303680404579141563422438386


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 21, 2013, 07:59:02 am
Pope Rejects Meeting with Bibi in Rome

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will not be meeting with Pope Francis during his visit to Rome on Wednesday, a diplomatic source told AFP on Sunday. A statement last week from Netanyahu’s office had said he would be "meeting Pope Francis next Wednesday at the Vatican" and with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry for updates on nuclear talks with Iran and negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.   

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/173033


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 22, 2013, 07:48:59 am
Bishop: Pope leading church to 'disaster'
 
Believes world could be entering age of Antichrist



Citing the famous prophecies of Fatima, traditionalist Roman Catholic Bishop Bernard Fellay warned in an address in Kansas City that Pope Francis is precipitating the church’s decline and could be a herald that the world is entering the age of the Antichrist.
 
Fellay, who leads a society that has no canonical status in the Roman Catholic Church, said the “modernist views” professed by the pontiff are at odds with traditional Catholic teaching.
 
“The situation in the Catholic Church is a real disaster and the present pope is making it 10,000 times worse,” Fellay charged Oct. 12 at the Angelus Press Conference in Kansas City.
 
Fellay is superior general of the Society of St. Pius X, whose ministers, according to the Vatican, do not legitimately exercise ministry in the church.
 
Fellay, in his address, drew heavily from the Third Secret of Fatima, which many Catholics believe was given by the Virgin Mary, the mother of Jesus, to Lucia Santos, one of three poor children who claimed to experience a series of six apparitions of Mary in Fatima, Portugal, between May and October in 1917.

REST: http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/bishop-pope-leading-church-to-disaster/print/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 22, 2013, 10:54:50 am
Quote
Fellay, who leads a society that has no canonical status in the Roman Catholic Church, said the “modernist views” professed by the pontiff are at odds with traditional Catholic teaching.
 
“The situation in the Catholic Church is a real disaster and the present pope is making it 10,000 times worse,” Fellay charged Oct. 12 at the Angelus Press Conference in Kansas City.

Even worse - this Pope is doing all he can to divide and cause division within his OWN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Like I mentioned earlier - there's this one GOP establishment forum I go to to get news articles from, and they also lean pro-Catholic. Even the posters on there are divided over this Pope, to the point where some are accusing the so-called "liberal media"(ie-CBS, CNN, ABC, etc) of somehow "distorting" Frankie's comments. Even some of these "liberal media" watchdog groups(which have RCC ties) also accuse the "liberal media" like CBS and CNN of painting Frankie in a bad light.


Title: Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.
Post by: Mark on October 22, 2013, 04:09:57 pm
Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.

Pope Francis has been very clear about how he feels about ideological purity in religion. He’s been particularly critical of right-wing Christian fundamentalism. Pope Francis has shifted the focus of the Catholic Church to issues facing the poor and the sick. He has railed against economic inequality and has criticized the anti-gay and anti-abortion strains that have come to dominate the Christian Right here in America. Such ideological extremism is dangerous, not only to Christianity, but to the world. And Pope Francis said as much last Thursday.

During a daily Mass last week, Pope Francis called ideological Christianity “an illness” that doesn’t serve Jesus Christ. Instead, it “frightens” people and pushes them away from religion.

"In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PvMpUgSAVcM

Based on past statements, Pope Francis’ remarks were aimed mostly at the Christian Right.
 
While Pope Francis did not specifically mention Christian right-wing ideology during the Mass, his past remarks suggest he was talking about that ideology most of all.
 
In September, Pope Francis attacked “savage capitalism” and took up the plight of the unemployed against a system that worships money. Earlier that month, the Pope also criticized conservative Catholics for focusing so much on abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception. And in July, Pope Francis put the brakes on hating gay people, saying that we shouldn’t judge or marginalize them.
 
Clearly, Pope Francis isn’t fond of the extreme ideals of the Christian Right. He supports helping the poor. He believes in economic fairness. He denounces hatred of gay people. He thinks the war against abortion and birth control has gone too far. Considering all of these things, it’s pretty obvious that Pope Francis was mostly talking to right-wing Christians on Thursday. Their ideological fanaticism has damaged religion. They have abandoned the true teachings of Jesus to pursue an extremist agenda. And Pope Francis just called them out for it. Cue right-wing rage in 3, 2, 1…

NO WAY!!! This is Awesome!!!!!!!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/21/pope-francis-right-wing-christians/


Title: Re: Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 22, 2013, 04:32:53 pm
Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.

Hhhhmmm...some "influential evangelical" made a similar comment over the last decade...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060116060443/http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/living/religion/13573441.htm
Jan. 08, 2006

Excerpt:

(Rick)Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be "one of the big enemies of the 21st century."

"Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism - they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other."


Title: Re: Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 22, 2013, 04:35:57 pm
Clearly, Pope Francis isn’t fond of the extreme ideals of the Christian Right. He supports helping the poor. He believes in economic fairness. He denounces hatred of gay people. He thinks the war against abortion and birth control has gone too far. Considering all of these things, it’s pretty obvious that Pope Francis was mostly talking to right-wing Christians on Thursday. Their ideological fanaticism has damaged religion. They have abandoned the true teachings of Jesus to pursue an extremist agenda. And Pope Francis just called them out for it. Cue right-wing rage in 3, 2, 1…

NO WAY!!! This is Awesome!!!!!!!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/21/pope-francis-right-wing-christians/

Yeah - just imagine if Obama, Nancy Pelosi, or Hillary Clinton said the same things Frankie said - there would be a HUGE outrage over this! Especially coming from these "conservative" media watchdog groups like Brent Bozell, Sean Hannity, FOX, etc. But with Frankie saying this instead - nothing? nada? you can hear a pin drop? ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on October 22, 2013, 07:58:19 pm
The writer of that article about Pope Frank's comments on "Christian extremism" sounds so pompous and arrogant. It's almost funny.

But anyway, did we really expect anything less from this guy?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 23, 2013, 12:59:40 pm
The writer of that article about Pope Frank's comments on "Christian extremism" sounds so pompous and arrogant. It's almost funny.

But anyway, did we really expect anything less from this guy?

Not that I endorse the RCC - but something he's doing the previous Popes didn't do - he's craftily dividing the RCC. Just something to watch out for in potentially these last days.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on October 23, 2013, 07:51:51 pm
Not that I endorse the RCC - but something he's doing the previous Popes didn't do - he's craftily dividing the RCC. Just something to watch out for in potentially these last days.

Yeah, that's something I've noticed, as well. Here's hoping that God uses this guy to get a lot of Catholics straightened out and SAVED.


Title: Re: Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 23, 2013, 10:00:51 pm
"In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

FYI, the word ideology is NOT in the 1828 Webster's...

http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/search/word,ideology

Neither is the word ideological...

http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/search/word,ideological

Quote
Based on past statements, Pope Francis’ remarks were aimed mostly at the Christian Right.

Uhm...the Christian Right was formed by the Vatican, pretty much...



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 25, 2013, 05:24:10 pm
Just keep in mind - the whole "religious right"/"moral majority" movement has stood down since 2008(the year Obama first got elected). All by design...

http://news.yahoo.com/why-pope-francis-wont-cause-schism-u-religious-103800581.html
Why Pope Francis won't cause a schism in the U.S. religious right
10/25/13

Protestants and Catholics used to eye each other with mistrust, even deep theological enmity. But somewhere in the midst of shouting matches over the relative merits of grace versus good works, idolatry versus sainthood, and fealty to Rome, an alliance of sorts formed between conservative Catholics and evangelical Protestants in America. Opposition to abortion, gay rights, and creeping secularism got both sides singing from the same hymnal. The Religious Right was born.

That alliance has lasted through at least five presidents and two relatively doctrinaire popes. But the anti-culture-war tone from the new supreme pontiff, Pope Francis, has "driven a wedge into the powerful political alliance between conservative Catholics and evangelical Christians that's been instrumental in electing hundreds of Republicans over the past four decades,
" say McKay Coppins and Hunter Schwarz at BuzzFeed.

Many Protestant culture warriors agree with Bryan Fischer at the American Family Association that the new pope's pronouncements have been disappointing and alarming.

"It raises questions in our mind because the Catholic Church has always been a faithful shoulder-to-shoulder ally to social conservatives in the fight to protect unborn human life" and heterosexual-only marriage, Fischer tells BuzzFeed. "We simply have questions of whether we'll be able to count on the Catholic Church to be comrades-in-arms to continue to fight these battles
."

Coppins and Schwarz even get this amazing quote about Pope Francis from Tracy Pyland, a Maryland born-again Christian: "That man needs to read his Bible."

The Dish's Andrew Sullivan is jubilant that, as he sees it, Francis is breaking up the Catholic-evangelical party:

The Catholic hierarchy has been knocked sideways by the emergence of Pope Francis and his eschewal of their fixation on homosexuality, contraception, and abortion. That fixation — essentially a Christianist and de facto Republican alliance among Protestants and Catholic leaders — has now been rendered a far lower priority than, say, preaching the Gospel or serving the poor and the sick. Francis has also endorsed secularism as the proper modern context for religious faith. [The Dish]

Conservative Catholics argue that the media is blowing the new pope's liberal-ish statements out of proportion, but they don't fully disagree with Sullivan, either. "The pope's most controversial statements seem to arise from a single motive: He doesn't like 'right-wing' Catholics, and wants to make it clear to all the world that he's not one of them," says John Zmirak at The American Conservative. (Zmirak doesn't mean that as a compliment.)

And it's true that, as Sullivan says, some of what the pope has to say "could almost be designed to infuriate Protestant Christianists," not to mention conservative Catholics. Here, Pope Francis calls "Christian ideology" a "serious illness" that drives a wedge between people and between the church and the people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMpUgSAVcM

But it won't drive a serious wedge between conservative Catholics and evangelical Protestants.

The long papacy of happy culture warrior John Paul II didn't turn Ted Kennedy or John Kerry or Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi — Catholics all — into anti-abortion activists. And Pope Francis' shift away from cultural politics won't convert John Boehner or make any of the conservative Catholics on the Supreme Court — Antonin Scalia, John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and Clarence Thomas — less eager to overturn Roe v. Wade (or strike down the death penalty, for that matter).

The pope in many ways sets the tone for the Catholic Church, but it's the local bishops and archbishops who guide the flock, along with the thousands of parish priests. To change the church a pope can tinker with the foundational texts and catechism to some extent, issue encyclicals, and remake the church hierarchy. That last part takes time: Every sitting cardinal and almost every bishop was named by Popes John Paul and Benedict XVI. Frances, at age 76, probably won't remake the episcopate in his image.

For "wayward Catholics," Pope Francis' words "may be an invitation back to a church slowly becoming once again recognizable," says Caitlin Bancroft at PolicyMic. But "his fresh perspective may become nothing more than a brief moment in the religion's long, static history."

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Yeah, it wasn't too long ago when the "religious left" aka the Emergent Church came about(after the turn of the 21st century) - not that I ever endorsed the "religious right", but if anything the RR passed the baton to the RL to help put the final nail in the coffin.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 25, 2013, 06:37:24 pm
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"It raises questions in our mind because the Catholic Church has always been a faithful shoulder-to-shoulder ally to social conservatives in the fight to protect unborn human life" and heterosexual-only marriage, Fischer tells BuzzFeed. "We simply have questions of whether we'll be able to count on the Catholic Church to be comrades-in-arms to continue to fight these battles."

But then religious left leaders like Rick Warren is a comrade-in-arms with the Catholic Church, despite this...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060116060443/http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/living/religion/13573441.htm

1/8/2006

Excerpt:

Evangelicals are often equated with fundamentalists or the religious right, which annoys Warren. Although he's politically conservative - opposing abortion and gay marriage and supporting the death penalty - he pushes a much broader agenda and disdains both politics and fundamentalism.

Warren is a friend of President Bush and a repeat visitor to the White House. But he also met for several hours at Saddleback last month with Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, to discuss issues such as poverty and the environment.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 25, 2013, 07:06:51 pm
Just trying to put everything together from what everything we've seen since the new Pope was appointed...

Rev 17:15  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the **** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev 17:16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh0re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


So from scripture, we can say that the wh0re of Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church centered in Rome...

Rev 17:3  So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4  And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


Pt being that every time I read this passage - it makes me think that the prophecy concerning the mother of harlots will get destroyed by the beast(with the 10 horns) BEFORE the 7 year great tribulation. If this is the case, then I'm not surprised at all that we're seeing this current Pope causing divisions within his own Catholic Church now, and to boot causing too many *concerns* among the so-called "Christian Right" opposition-controlled group. And throw in the Marxist Emergent Church for good measure that have been pushing the same things Frankie is doing now.

Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on October 25, 2013, 09:10:46 pm
Just trying to put everything together from what everything we've seen since the new Pope was appointed...

Rev 17:15  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the **** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev 17:16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh0re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


So from scripture, we can say that the wh0re of Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church centered in Rome...

Rev 17:3  So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4  And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


Pt being that every time I read this passage - it makes me think that the prophecy concerning the mother of harlots will get destroyed by the beast(with the 10 horns) BEFORE the 7 year great tribulation. If this is the case, then I'm not surprised at all that we're seeing this current Pope causing divisions within his own Catholic Church now, and to boot causing too many *concerns* among the so-called "Christian Right" opposition-controlled group. And throw in the Marxist Emergent Church for good measure that have been pushing the same things Frankie is doing now.

Just my 2 cents.

See, I don't see that. I can understand where you're coming from, but I think there's a couple things that don't align (Biblically or otherwise):

1) Revelation 14:6-11 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

This passage takes place sometime during the tribulation period. We know that because the third angel specifically warns to NOT take the mark of the Beast (which isn't implemented until the Beast is at the apex of his power, in the 2nd half of the tribulation). The second angel announces Babylon's fall OR Babylon's impending fall. So by this, we know that Babylon isn't destroyed until the beginning of the 2nd half of the tribulation at the earliest.

2) I understand the "RCC is Babylon" position (it's one I held basically since I was born again, until very recently), but what I don't understand is why would the beast/man of sin/son of perdition/antichrist destroy his propaganda machine? They'll be in lockstep with the world in worshiping the beast (and very well could be his "universal" [catholic] church) And if the false prophet comes out of the RCC (like many, including myself, speculate) why on earth would the false prophet allow this to happen?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 25, 2013, 09:55:58 pm
"It raises questions in our mind because the Catholic Church has always been a faithful shoulder-to-shoulder ally to social conservatives in the fight to protect unborn human life" and heterosexual-only marriage, Fischer tells BuzzFeed. "We simply have questions of whether we'll be able to count on the Catholic Church to be comrades-in-arms to continue to fight these battles."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324769704579010743654111328.html?ru=yahoo?mod=yahoo_itp
SBC SRLC President Russell Moore: From Moral Majority to 'Prophetic Minority'

The new leader of the Southern Baptist political arm says Christians have lost the culture and need to act accordingly.

8/16/13

'The Bible Belt is collapsing," says Russell Moore. Oddly, the incoming president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission doesn't seem upset. In a recent visit to The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Moore explains that he thinks the Bible Belt's decline may be "bad for America, but it's good for the church."

Why? Because "we are no longer the moral majority. We are a prophetic minority."

The phrase is arresting coming from such a prominent religious leader—akin to a general who says the Army has shrunk to the point it can no longer fight two wars. A youthful 41, Mr. Moore is among the leaders of a new generation who think that evangelicals need to recognize that their values no longer define mainstream American culture the way they did 50 or even 20 years ago.

**Moore should know better - Jesus Christ said 2000 years ago that the world hateth believers b/c they hateth him first.

On gay marriage, abortion, even on basic religious affiliation, the culture has moved away. So evangelicals need a new way of thinking—a new strategy, if you will—to attract and keep believers, as well as to influence American politics.

The easy days of mobilizing a ready-made majority are gone. By "prophetic minority," he means that Christians must return to the days when they were a moral example and vanguard—defenders of belief in a larger unbelieving culture. He views this less as a defeat than as an opportunity.

To illustrate his point, Mr. Moore tells the story about a friend from college two decades ago, an atheist, who asked for the name of a church that wasn't very demanding of its congregation. When Mr. Moore inquired why, the friend said he needed a church to attend because he planned to run for governor some day. Mr. Moore says the story shows that in the past you had to join a church even if you had no belief because everyone else belonged. But today his friend wouldn't feel so obliged because "the idea that to be a good person, to be a good American, you have to go to church" has largely disappeared.

Vigorous, cheerful and fiercely articulate, Mr. Moore will take on one of evangelical America's most prominent jobs when he is officially installed next month. He succeeds the influential Richard Land, who served in that role for a quarter of a century. Like his predecessor, Mr. Moore is deeply knowledgeable about religion, American history and politics. He has been an ordained pastor and worked as an aide in Congress to former Rep. Gene Taylor (D., Miss.).

Most recently Mr. Moore was dean of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, where his cultural savvy gained him a following among coreligionists and the secular media. He is a regular on Twitter and Facebook, with posts that range from serious theology to self-deprecating jokes: "My toe is broken. My car is broken down. A lifetime of country music has prepared me for this." The cover story he wrote for the May issue of Christianity Today was called "W.W. Jay-Z? How Christian hip-hop could call the American church back to the gospel—and hip-hop back to its roots."

He is definitely pushing a new tone for this generation of evangelicals. "This is the end of 'slouching toward Gomorrah,' " he says. Not only is the doomsaying not winning Christians any popularity contests, but he doesn't think it's religiously appropriate either. "We were never promised that the culture would embrace us."

He also questions the political approach of what was once called "the religious right." Though his boyish looks bring to mind the former Christian Coalition leader Ralph Reed, Mr. Moore is decidedly not a fan of the "values voter checklists" the group employs. "There is no Christian position on the line-item veto," Mr. Moore says. "There is no Christian position on the balanced-budget amendment."

**Again, this is very subtle - this is the Hegelian Dialectic the religious "right" vs. the religious "left" play off each other - one says "Christians should be politically active", while the other says "No they shouldn't".

Which is not to say that Mr. Moore wants evangelicals to "turn inward" and reject the larger U.S. culture. Rather, he wants to refocus the movement on serving as a religious example battling in the public square on "three core issues"—life, marriage and religious liberty.

**WHAT?? Not the gospel of Jesus Christ, who gives the gift of eternal life to those who believe in his name, and the works he did on the cross?

On protecting the unborn, Mr. Moore says he is a "long-term optimist" but "a short-term pessimist." He doesn't get excited every time a poll shows that more Americans are pro-life than pro-choice. He worries that the whole issue may be changed soon "by technology"—that is, chemically induced abortions may soon become the norm, with abortion clinics no longer the focal point of the debate. He also worries that the fight for the unborn has become a one-party battle, hardened along a Democrat and Republican divide. "The letterhead of Democrats for Life," Mr. Moore says, "doesn't include the names of any current members of Congress."

***Hhhhmmm...seriously, maybe that explains the 42 abortion clinics being closed this year, and the growing number of states passing anti-abortion restrictions? Did Moore just telegraph something here? :-\

But he also believes that this battle will not be won in Washington: "You have to take it to a personal level." He touts the many faith-based pregnancy crisis centers that not only try to talk women out of having abortions, but also help with child-care, job trainingand housing—"all of the things that have brought them there in the first place."

Mr. Moore is also deeply involved in the evangelical adoption movement. Eleven years ago, he and his wife, Maria, adopted two year-old babies, both boys, from a Russian orphanage. When the couple (who have three other sons) arrived at the orphanage, he says, they were struck by the "creepy silence" in a building filled with babies. The children had stopped crying because they had learned that no one would respond.

In evangelical churches across the U.S., adoption—foreign and domestic—has become increasingly common. "You don't need a canned adoption ministry program," Mr. Moore says. As members of the congregation get to know families who have adopted, the example spreads.

He says the same dynamic has made evangelicals more favorable to immigration. "The immigration debate has become personalized," he says. "In the Midwest and South and Southwest, our churches now have large immigrant populations. These are our brothers and sisters in Christ." The people in the pews "understand we're not going to deport 11 million people without a big government police state"—something his coreligionists do not want.

Though the Southern Baptist Convention 2011 resolution on immigration opposed "amnesty," it also says: "The Scriptures call us, in imitation of God Himself, to show compassion and justice for the sojourner and alien among us." Mr. Moore notes the importance of keeping families together and says that "self-deportation is not a solution."

His cultural revival plan is also to focus more on local churches. When the Supreme Court's decisions on gay marriage came down in June, Mr. Moore sent a message to pastors to help them talk with their congregants about the Southern Baptist opposition to the law. "We don't hate our gay and lesbian neighbors," he says, but redefining marriage on their behalf is another matter.

There are a couple of reasons why Christians are losing the debate over gay marriage, Mr. Moore says. One is that even many Christians don't have a real understanding of what marriage is. "We have embraced certain aspects of the sexual revolution," he says, like the "divorce culture."

**Does this mean the SBC will ex-communicate Charles Stanley for being a divorced pastor? Will Rick Warren also be ex-communicated for bringing in sexual entertainment into his Saddleback Church, and allowing Rupert Murdoch being a member? ::)

Another is that many people assume "my marriage is my business"—why should they care if their neighbors marry someone of the same sex? Mr. Moore says the part of the marriage ceremony when the pastor asks if anyone knows of a reason why the couple should not wed is like a "vestigial organ." No one ever objects "except in romantic comedies," but there was a time when a couple's marriage decision was thought to be of church concern. He would like it to be again.

As a "prophetic minority," Mr. Moore thinks his most profound political task will be defending religious liberty from the assaults of a secular government. The cause is at the heart of his plan to fight the contraception mandate in ObamaCare. President Obama may have thought that religious employers would accept being forced to pay for contraception, the morning-after abortion pill or sterilization under the law. "But we are not adjusting to the new normal," Mr. Moore avers. "We are not going to go away or back down."

**Look at that ecumenical buzzword again - "religious liberty". As for "not backing down", I'm surprised you and the rest of the SBC stood down when Reagan and Bush Jr either passed pro-abortion bills or funded Planned Parenthood.

On Aug. 7, Colorado Christian Universitybecame the first nonprofit to sue the Department of Health and Human Services for its "final" rule on the issue. The HHS rule requires organizations opposed on religious grounds to specific contraceptives, sterilization or abortion to "designate" a third party to provide those services.

Mr. Moore sees this as a chance to unite believers of many faiths, and last month he joined Archbishop William Lori of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and other religious leaders in writing to Mr. Obama: "The HHS policy is coercive and puts the administration inthe position of defining—or casting aside—religious doctrine. This should trouble every American."

Mr. Moore says he hopes to make the ObamaCare mandate a major issue in the 2016 election. By then, it will have become clear how intrusive the health-care law has become, he says, and the American people will side with religious groups that protest having to act against their beliefs. "The separation of church and state," Mr. Moore says, "is not a liberal issue."

**Hate to say it, but too little, too late - largely thanks to a George W. Bush USSC appointee(whom YOU supported), Obamacare was made law of the land last year.

In this task, he adds, the Baptists are returning to their roots as a minority at America's founding. He mentions how 17th century Virginia passed a law requiring that all ministers be ordained by the Anglican church—then the established church of the colony. Many Baptist preachers were jailed for resisting the law, which is said to have influenced James Madison's views on religious liberty.

One of the jailed preachers was the prominent evangelist Jeremiah Moore, who wrote in 1773: "God himself is the only one to whom man is accountable for his religious sentiments simply, nor has he erected any tribunal on earth qualified to judge whether the man worships in an acceptable manner or not."

History turns, but the fight for religious liberty is eternal. Says another Moore, 240 years later, "We are not going to go quietly into the night."

**Nope, the world will continue to spiral out of control until Jesus Christ comes back and establishes his 1000 year millennial kingdom.

2Tim_3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 30, 2013, 06:24:31 am
Pope Francis Consecrates the World to Our Lady of the Fatima Flying Saucer!

Pope Francis consecrated the world to the immaculate heart of our lady of the Fatima flying saucer on October 13th, 2013. You might balk, “our lady of the Fatima flying saucer”? Indeed, that is the most accurate description of the events that inspired the Fatima legend. The Miracle of the Sun was an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) witnessed on October 13, 1917, by up to one hundred thousand people gathered near Fátima, Portugal. Several newspaper reporters in attendance recorded testimony from people who claimed to have witnessed an extraordinary aerial phenomenon in which a silvery disc flew about the sky. Of course, this was long before the term “flying saucer” was coined, and many thought the disc was the sun. Also, because it had been raining and the clouds broke just as the phenomenon occurred, many believed it was a solar miracle. However, if the sun had actually moved in the described manner, the gravitational effects would have devastated the Earth. Even so, the sighting was officially declared a miracle by the Roman Catholic Church in 1930. Here’s a newspaper from 1917:

rest: http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/10/pope-francis-consecrates-the-world-to-our-lady-of-the-fatima-flying-saucer-2455022.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 30, 2013, 08:02:28 am
Little Boy Makes Friends With Pope Francis

Pope Francis shares the pulpit with a young boy who won't leave his side. 00:27 | 10/30/2013. Share: Transcript for Little Boy Makes Friends With Pope Francis.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNN/video/boy-makes-friends-pope-francis-20723683

You NEVER EVER EVER leave a small boy ALONE with any Catholic priest let alone the Pope. This should be child endangerment.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on October 30, 2013, 08:11:00 am
I can only imagine what that boy's parents have told him.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 30, 2013, 09:04:48 pm
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/news/detail/articolo/29155/

10/30/2013
 
Forbes ranks Francis as 4th most powerful person in the world

Pope Francis is ranked ‘the 4th most powerful’ person in the world after Presidents Putin (Russia), Obama (USA), and Xi Jinping (China), by Forbes, the prestigious US business magazine

Pope Francis is the 4th ‘most powerful’ person in the world according to Forbes, the prestigious American business magazine, which has just released the names of those it ranks as ‘the 72 most powerful people’ on planet earth in 2013.

Forbes ranks him immediately after the Presidents of Russia, the USA and ChinaIt is a most extraordinary result for this humble leader of the Catholic Church who has never in his life sought position, power or status, has always lived as a poor man and, until his election as Pope used public transport, shuns mundane events and gives priority attention to the world’s poor.     

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin was given the number 1 position in the Forbes list, followed by US President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping, in the number 2 and 3 slots respectively.  Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel came in at Number 5, and is rated as the most powerful woman in the world.

Each year Forbes provides a ranking of the heads of state, financiers, philanthropists and entrepreneurs “who truly run the world”. It lists one for every 100 million of the world’s inhabitants, and since there are today 7.2 billion people on earth today,  it has come up with what it considers the 72 ‘most powerful’ among them.

Unlike Pope Francis who considers “power as service”, Forbes uses far different criteria to define ‘power’.  It outlines these criteria in an article published on-line October 30, in which it announced the 72 names. It explains that its editors measure ‘power’ along ‘four dimensions’.  First, they evaluate “whether the candidate has power over lots of people”. Next they assess “the financial resources controlled by each person, and see if they are relatively large compared to their peers”. Then they determine “if the candidate is powerful in multiple spheres”, being powerful in just one area is often not enough. Lastly, “they make sure that the candidates actively use their power.” 

To calculate the final rankings, Forbes’ editors rank all the candidates under consideration – hundreds of them- in each of those ‘four dimensions of power’, and then average the individual rankings into a composite score.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 30, 2013, 09:10:05 pm
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Each year Forbes provides a ranking of the heads of state, financiers, philanthropists and entrepreneurs “who truly run the world”. It lists one for every 100 million of the world’s inhabitants, and since there are today 7.2 billion people on earth today,  it has come up with what it considers the 72 ‘most powerful’ among them.


FYI, apparently, the number 72 is a number the occult embraces. The NIV uses 72 instead of 70 in this very important passage...

KJB
Luke_10:1  After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.


NIV
Luke 10:1 After this the Lord appointed seventy-two[a] others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2013, 09:03:08 am
BETHLEHEM-grade SUPERNOVA possible 'within 50 years'

Pontiff-verified; but the Three Kings will need IR goggles this time


...There's a still lower chance - just 5 per cent in the next half-century - of a proper, really bright visual supernova of the sort that appeared in 1604. That one outshone all the stars in the sky for a time, causing great excitement for eminent old-time astroboffin Johannes Kepler. He theorised, as have many since, that a similar event must have caused the mystical bright star which - according to the Bible - heralded the birth of the infant Jesus.

That viewpoint has lately received authoritative backing from no less an authority than the Pope. Benedict XVI, formerly aka Cardinal Ratzinger, advanced the idea that the Star of Bethlehem - which guided the Three Kings on their way to hand over their gold, frankincense and myrrh - was a supernova in a book about Jesus last year.

So there's at least a small chance of a proper, Jesus-grade Star of Wonder in the next few decades - surely reason enough to keep watching the skies, even if one is not tooled up with an infrared scope and accompanying neutrino detectors....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/01/glowing_supernova_star_of_the_type_that_heralded_baby_jesus_expected_within_50_years/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 04, 2013, 11:20:34 am
Didn't Benjamin Crème say how Maitreya's "star" will appear in the skies shortly before he makes his appearance?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 05, 2013, 01:55:30 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-issues-global-questionnaire-modern-families-145433172.html
Vatican issues global questionnaire on modern families
11/5/13

Vatican City (AFP) - The Vatican on Tuesday launched an unprecedented worldwide consultation on modern families including same-sex couples as part of Pope Francis's drive to reform the Catholic Church.

A questionnaire has been sent to bishops around the world asking them for detailed information about the "many new situations requiring the Church's attention and pastoral care".

"Concerns which were unheard of until a few years ago have arisen today as a result of different situations, from the widespread practice of cohabitation... to same-sex unions," it said.

Religious watchers said the 39 questions were unusual because of their non-judgemental, practical nature in what could be a signal of greater openness and increased pastoral care regardless of a believer's background.

Referring to gay couples, one questions asks: "What pastoral attention can be given to people who have chosen to live in these types of union?"

"In the case of unions of persons of the same sex who have adopted children, what can be done pastorally in light of transmitting the faith?"

On remarried divorcees, who under the current rules are not allowed to receive Holy Communion in a Catholic church, the questionnaire asks: "Do they feel marginalised or suffer from the impossibility of receiving the sacraments?"

On divorce and separated couples in general, it asks: "How do you deal with this situation in appropriate pastoral programmes?"

The initiative is part of preparations for a synod of bishops next year and another in 2015 that the Vatican said will formulate "working guidelines in the pastoral care of the person and the family".

Lorenzo Baldisseri, head of the synod of bishops, told reporters that the meeting's theme "reflects very well the pastoral zeal with which the Holy Father wishes to approach the proclamation of the Gospel to the family in today's world".

He said the consultation also showed Francis, who has said the Catholic Church is too "Vatican-centric", wanted more "collegiality".

Cardinal Peter Erdo, president of the Council of the Bishops' Conferences of Europe, referred in particular to the increase in cohabiting Catholic couples who do not intend to marry, saying "the phenomenon requires a deepened reflection."

Archbishop Bruno Forte, special secretary of the synod, said "the Church has to better its understanding, it is not a static body. We do not have the answers ready, but we cannot behave like an ostrich, with its head in the sand."

Vatican expert Marco Politi, who writes for the Italian weekly L'Espresso, told AFP that "it is hugely significant that the Church, instead of presenting its 'truth' on families, civil unions and homosexuality from on high, wants to hear about the experience of the local faithful."

"What's interesting is how bishops are going about gathering the information. Some bishops are taking Francis's drive further forward, while others are putting on the brakes," he said.

In England, for example, the questionnaire is available online so individuals can express their opinions directly, while bishops elsewhere "believe their role is to filter the answers", he added.

Pope Francis has shown a more open style since being elected in March and a desire to bring the Catholic Church more in touch with the lives of ordinary people, although experts say he is unlikely to bring about major changes in doctrine.

Francis has said priests should baptise children even when the parents are not married and, when asked recently about his views on gays, he replied: "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 07, 2013, 10:49:00 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-meeting-putin-could-help-mend-catholic-orthodox-150601080.html
Pope meeting Putin, could help mend Catholic-Orthodox relations
11/7/13

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis will receive Russian President Vladimir Putin on November 25, an encounter that could help mend strained relations between the Vatican and the Russian Orthodox Church.

Russian-Vatican relations have been fraught since the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union, with Moscow accusing the Roman Catholic Church of trying to poach believers from the Russian Orthodox Church, a charge the Vatican denies.

But Putin is the first Kremlin leader since the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution to publicly profess religious faith - to the Orthodox church - and has several times advocated ending the long feud between the two major Christian churches.

Putin and the pope will hold their first meeting on November 25, a Vatican spokesman said on Thursday.

Putin, who also met his two immediate predecessors, could invite the pope to visit Russia, diplomats said.

Popes Benedict and John Paul had standing invitations from the Russian government but could not go because they received no matching invitation from the Orthodox Church. Francis would need the same to go to Russia.

Another dispute between the churches concerns the fate of many church properties that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered confiscated from Eastern Rite Catholics, who worship in an Orthodox liturgy but owe their allegiance to Rome.

Stalin gave the Catholic property to the Russian Orthodox Church, but after the fall of communism, the Eastern Rite Catholics took back many sites, leading to a rise in tensions
.

The Russian Orthodox Church, which has resurged since the collapse of the Soviet Union, has some 165 million members in former Soviet republics including Russia and other states.

Francis is the first non-European pope in 1,300 years. His predecessors came from countries - Italy, Poland and Germany - that were caught up in the 20th century's two global conflicts as well as in the Cold War that followed World War Two.

Diplomats have said that Francis, an Argentine with no European political baggage, would have a far better chance of improving ties with the Russian Orthodox Church.

There have been signs of a general warming between the western and eastern branches of Christianity.

On March 20, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew became the first worldwide spiritual leader of Orthodox Christians to attend a papal inaugural Mass since the Great Schism split western and eastern Christianity in 1054.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 07, 2013, 11:14:25 pm
Posting this here b/c - you know this whole buzzword phrase "liberal media bias" these so-called "liberal watchdog" media groups, "conservative" talk radio, and FOX News would oversaturate with since Reagan left office?

Pretty much - ultimately, they oversaturated with this "liberal media bias" propaganda to seduce and deceive Churchianity(and professing conservatives for that matter too) - this was how they were able to paint Reagan as some freedom fighting, born again Christian conservative, and ditto George W. Bush. This was also how they were able to quietly implement globalist agendas under them(Police State, bigger government, eugenics, sodomy, Communism, etc), as well as the Iraq war which was based on that "Iraq was behind 9/11 too" lie.

Ultimately, all of this nonsense has come out of the Jesuits/RCC - look how they're pulling the same stunt with Pope Francis(and they do NOT even show proof that he was "misquoted" et al by the MSM).

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?id=1000
Why the media keep getting Pope Francis all wrong

Readers beware. The quality of reporting on the Vatican by the secular news media—never high—has plummeted to an all-time low in recent weeks. Scarcely a day goes by without some sensational new headline.

The Pope is going to appoint a female cardinal! He’s going to poll the Catholic public! He’s going to use the poll results to alter Church doctrine! He’s going to end priestly celibacy! He’s going to drop the Church’s opposition to same-sex marriage!

The headlines are inaccurate, as are the accompanying stories. But because they’re sensational, they capture attention. Only rarely do the media outlets correct their errors, and even when they do, the corrections do not capture the same amount of attention. Meanwhile, after the eye-catching stories have appeared in the big media outlets, they filter down through the copycat outlets. So the inaccurate headlines keep popping up, long after the stories have been debunked.

Why is there so much bad reporting about the Vatican? You can complain all you want about the Vatican’s public-relations strategy, and I won’t stop you; over the past 20 years I don’t think any Catholic commentator has criticized the Vatican’s PR efforts more than I have. But even if the Vatican’s handling of these stories has been maladroit, I don’t blame the Vatican for the current boom in bad reporting. Several other factors are at work.

First, Pope Francis has become enormously popular, and drawn the attention of the world’s media. There’s more coverage of Vatican affairs than in the past. Since the coverage is nearly always inaccurate, more coverage means more inaccuracy. Q.E.D.

Second, the mass media still don’t know exactly what to make of this new Pontiff. Pope Benedict XVI was a known quantity; he had been in the public spotlight for years. He was known as a staunch defender of Catholic orthodoxy, and so—even when reporters realized that he had been badly mischaracterized as a stern martinet—no one expected him to make significant changes in Church teaching. In the case of Pope Francis, however, reporters don’t know what to expect. (As the co-author of  a book about the new Pope, I can assure you that Pope Francis will not break from Catholic orthodoxy. But if the mass media took their cues me, you wouldn’t be seeing all these inaccurate stories!)

Third, Pope Francis has produced a series of surprises, mostly with his own personal gestures. Vatican-watchers are expecting further changes, and competing to be the first to spot a new development. Secular reporters generally—wrongly—think that “change” must necessarily mean doctrinal change, so they speculate about the possibilities along those lines. Dozens of stories in recent weeks have solemnly announced that the Pope “might be thinking of” various major changes. Unless you can read minds, you can’t absolutely contradict such stories, but they’re based on nothing but the reporter’s speculation.

Fourth—and regrettably—Catholics on both ends of the spectrum are encouraging the media to think of Pope Francis as a revolutionary. One group, still longing for radical changes in doctrine, encourages speculation that the Pope will grant their wishes. Another group, frightened of the changes that might be in store, seizes every opportunity to complain that the Holy Father is abandoning time-honored traditions. The “hermeneutic of rupture” that Pope Benedict XVI decried, once applied to Vatican II, is now being applied to Pope Francis. Extremists on both sides, for their own separate reasons, portray the Pope as a radical. Their hyperbolic statements—gleeful on one hand, morose on the other—provide secular reporters with the juicy quotations they need for stories depicting Pope Francis as a radical.

Folks, we all need to calm down. Take a few deep breaths. If you read the Pope’s actual statements, if you watch his behavior, you realize that although he has a striking and often provocative personal style, he is no revolutionary. He is, rather—as he has described himself—very much “a son of the Church.” There will be changes at the Vatican under his leadership, but not radical changes, and certainly not changes in doctrine.

To understand this pontificate, employ the “hermeneutic of continuity.” Assume that Pope Francis is not trying to undo the good work of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, but doing his best to carry out their plans. Often he may attack problems from a different angle, but it’s a mistake to conclude that he has fundamentally different goals. The secular media might fall into that error every day, but faithful Catholics shouldn’t be misled.

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Uhm...Yes, Frankie SAID WHAT HE SAID! And where is YOUR PROOF that he was "misquoted", "misreported", etc? BTW - both JPII and Benedict supported evolution - are you saying that's OK too?!

Anyhow - this is the very same rhetoric they used to defend Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, DESPITE their implementation of many, many draconian globalist agendas!(some right in front of everyone's eyes too)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 09, 2013, 12:52:43 pm
So WHAT "liberal media" took Frankie's comments out of context? ::)

Not that I endorse this guy, but just saying!

http://now.msn.com/vatican-corrects-pope-on-atheists-heaven
5/27/13

Vatican spokesman says pope is wrong, atheists still going to hell
5/27/2013

It’s sort of problematic to contradict someone who's supposed to be the infallible voice of your religion, but that's apparently what's happened here. Refuting Pope Francis' statements last week that those who "do good" will go to heaven, regardless of faith or lack thereof, the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, has corrected his boss, saying those who know about the Catholic Church "cannot be saved" if they "refuse to enter her or remain in her." So that's pretty clear, we guess. There's only one way to settle this: Thunderdome. Two high-ranking church officials enter; one high-ranking church official leaves.

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Yes, this guy is in major error too - but nonetheless just wanted to point out how the Papacy controls both "opposing" sides of the MSM as well, and should put to rest that it was this "liberal media" that somehow took Frankie's comments out of context.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 10, 2013, 05:51:25 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/u-bishops-select-leaders-pope-urges-focus-132216439.html
U.S. bishops to select leaders as Pope urges new focus
11/10/13

BALTIMORE (Reuters) - U.S. Catholic bishops will choose new leaders at an assembly in Baltimore this week and possibly signal a new direction for the American church under the influence of Pope Francis.

The conference begins Monday and all eyes will be on whether the new leaders of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops continue vigorous opposition to gay marriage and to Obamacare's contraceptive mandate, or increase their push to help the poor and immigrants given Pope Francis' emphasis on social justice issues.

The new leaders also will be preparing for an "extraordinary synod" of bishops in Rome to discuss teachings related to the family. The Vatican has asked bishops and parish priests around the world about the local views on gay marriage, divorce and birth control ahead of the October 2014 meeting.

"Bishops have been stuck in a bunker fighting the culture war," said John Gehring, who was once in the conference's communications office and is now Catholic program director for Faith in Public Life, a liberal advocacy group. "Pope Francis has said we can't just be known by what we oppose."

In an interview with a Jesuit journal published in September, Pope Francis said the church cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and must become more merciful or risk falling "like a house of cards."

Russell Shaw, a writer on Catholic issues and a former spokesman for the conference, said he doesn't think the bishops will back off on social issues like gay marriage and abortion, just as Francis has reiterated church teachings on these subjects. But they may shift their approach.

"They may make a greater effort to couple what they say about issues like that with messages of having a more pastoral tone, putting what they say about the questions of same sex marriage in a context of authentic and pastoral concern for same sex couples," Shaw said.

The bishops' conference has taken stands for immigration reform and anti-poverty programs under the leadership of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan the past three years.

But it has been extremely vocal on "religious liberty" - protesting the Obama administration's mandate that required Catholic schools and hospitals to carry insurance that provides birth control, forbidden by church doctrine, for free. The push concerned some Catholics, who felt the church's leaders had become too aligned with the political right.

"What's been in the foreground has been their campaigns on gay marriage, abortion and their concerns on the contraceptive mandate," said Father Thomas Reese, a writer who is, like Francis, a Jesuit.

THE ELECTION

The conference broke with tradition in 2010, electing the outspoken conservative Dolan to a three-year term as president of the U.S. bishops group over then-vice president Gerald Kicanas of Tucson, Arizona, who was seen by some as more moderate.

Conference observers believe bishops will follow tradition this time and choose the current vice president, Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Louisville, Kentucky. Kurtz is viewed as a reliable conservative who is well liked and effective.

The vice presidency is a more open field, though Reese believes Archbishop Jose Gomez of Los Angeles, a Mexican-born cleric may have an edge in part because he can speak Spanish, enabling him to speak to Francis without a translator.

Reese said Gomez also would prioritize immigration reform, which should please moderates, and is conservative enough for conservatives.


Baltimore Archbishop William Lori, chair of the group that has fought the healthcare mandate, and Archbishop Thomas Wenski of Miami, who is known to ride a motorcycle and is considered strong on poverty and immigration issues, also are on the list.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 11, 2013, 08:57:04 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/popes-ambassador-tells-us-bishops-live-simply-20852178
11/11/13
Pope's Rep: US Bishops Shouldn't Preach Ideology
BALTIMORE November 11, 2013 (AP)

The Vatican ambassador to the U.S., addressing American bishops at their first national meeting since Pope Francis was elected, said Monday they should not "follow a particular ideology" and should make Roman Catholics feel more welcome in church.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano noted the challenges from broader society to Christian teaching. He cautioned that the bishops' witness to faith would be undermined if they failed to live simply. Francis, in office for eight months, has captured attention for eschewing some of the pomp of the papacy, including his decision to live in the Vatican hotel and his use of an economy car.

"There has to be a noticeable lifestyle characterized by simplicity and holiness of life. This is a sure way to bring our people to an awareness of the truth of our message," said Vigano, the apostolic nuncio based in Washington.

"The Holy Father wants bishops in tune with their people," Vigano said, noting that he visited the pope in June. "He made a special point of saying that he wants pastoral bishops, not bishops who profess or follow a particular ideology."

In a September interview, Francis said Catholic leaders should give greater emphasis to compassion and mercy, arguing the church's focus on abortion, marriage and contraception has been too narrow and alienating. For the last several years, the public sessions of the fall bishops' assembly have centered on those hot-button social issues. This year's meeting gave the first glimpse of how that message was resonating among American leaders.

New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, dedicated his speech to persecuted Christians overseas, asking the bishops to make international religious freedom a top priority. He made only a passing reference to the bishops' own religious freedom campaign, and then only to say that their struggles "pale in comparison" to the plight of Christians and others overseas.

Dozens of Catholic charities and dioceses, along with evangelical colleges and others, are suing the Obama administration over a requirement that employers provide health insurance that includes contraceptive coverage. The bishops say the religious exemption to the rule violates the religious freedom of nonprofit and for-profit employers. The issue is expected to reach the Supreme Court.

Dolan said in a news conference his speech was not a shift away from that fight — but an expansion of it. "It's almost raised our consciousness to say we can't stop here," Dolan said.

But Mathew Schmalz, religious studies professor at College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass., said highlighting the fight with the Obama administration would be seen as out of step with Francis' message, especially at a time when the Vatican is moving away from a European focus. Francis is the first pope from Latin America.

"The bishops realize that they themselves are going to have to change their tone if they are to become more inclusive and complement the new tone coming from Pope Francis and the Vatican," Schmalz said. "There is definitely something going on here: The American hierarchy is going to have to change its style or be left behind."

The bishops had early in the meeting prayed for the thousands of victims of Friday's typhoon in the Philippines and also discussed the response to the disaster by Catholic Relief Services, the bishops' international relief agency.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 12, 2013, 04:16:08 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/cardinal-dolan-defends-u-bishops-record-poverty-issues-030537463.html
U.S. Catholic bishops' new leaders concerned with poor
11/12/13

BALTIMORE (Reuters) - U.S. Catholic bishops elected two centrist conservatives as new leaders on Tuesday, an archbishop from Kentucky and a Texas cardinal, both of whom expressed "solidarity" with Pope Francis' strong emphasis on the poor.

Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, 67, of Louisville, Kentucky was elected to a three-year term as president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, while Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, 64, of the Galveston-Houston diocese, was chosen as vice president.

Their election comes as Catholic bishops worldwide are being given new direction by Pope Francis, who has emphasized greater humility and more concern for poverty. The bishops oversee 69 million U.S. Catholics, or about a quarter of the country's population.

"I believe we are very much in solidarity with Pope Francis, and that is, his way of articulating clearly that we need not only to serve the voiceless and the vulnerable, but to be an advocate," Kurtz told reporters after his election.

Christopher Hale, senior fellow with Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, a progressive group that focuses on social justice issues, said he believes both Kurtz and DiNardo "will move the American Church in the direction Pope Francis desires."

Hale cited Kurtz's "long pastoral experience" and praised DiNardo as a "tireless leader on immigration reform. He knows firsthand the problems of a broken immigration system."

Kurtz's election was expected as he is finishing a three-year term as vice president. Known as a reliable conservative who is also well-liked, pragmatic and effective, he replaces New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, an outspoken and colorful conservative elected in 2010.

"It means consistency and with Kurtz a little more concern for the poor and with DiNardo a little more concern about immigration," said Thomas Reese, a Jesuit priest and senior analyst with the National Catholic Reporter. Reese noted that Kurtz has a degree in social work and had cared for a brother with Down syndrome.

SOCIAL ISSUES

Dolan's term has been marked by a strong emphasis on opposing gay marriage, abortion, and the Obama administration's mandate that required Catholic schools and hospitals to carry insurance that provides birth control, forbidden by church doctrine, for free.

Bishops under Dolan also took stands for immigration reform and anti-poverty programs, but some liberal Catholics have expressed concern that the overall tone had become too far right.

In an interview published in September, Pope Francis said the church cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and must become more merciful.

In remarks to reporters, Kurtz discussed the bishops' support of the "sanctity" of traditional marriage, the protection of the unborn and the importance of helping the poor and immigrants. He also connected moving people out of poverty with the strength of the family.

DiNardo noted that U.S. bishops have been advocating for immigrants for decades.

"I think we're at a good time now where this can be handled," DiNardo said. "I believe there are those on both sides of the aisle, notwithstanding there's still some bitterness, who can work together. We hope to be able to be catalysts."

DiNardo, head of a heavily Hispanic archdiocese of 1.2 million, was the only cardinal of the nine nominees for vice president.

The new leaders are preparing for an "extraordinary synod" of bishops in Rome in October 2014 to discuss teachings related to the family. The Vatican has asked bishops and parish priests around the world about the local views on gay marriage, divorce and birth control ahead of the meeting.

Barbara Dorris of the group SNAP, which represents victims of clergy sex abuse, expressed disappointment with Kurtz's election, saying he had not joined the ranks of 30 U.S. bishops who have posted on their web sites the names of "proven, admitted and credibly accused child molesting clerics." SNAP is short for Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 13, 2013, 03:26:56 pm
It's as if Pope Frankie is making this a big sideshow from within - but then again, he's a Jesuit.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/11/13/catholic-fringe-defies-pope-disrupts-interfaith-kristallnacht-ceremony-at/
11/13/13
Catholic fringe defies Pope, disrupts interfaith Kristallnacht ceremony at Argentine cathedral

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina –  Some ultra-traditionalist Catholics in Argentina are openly challenging Pope Francis. Sunday night they disrupted one of his favorite events, an interfaith ceremony he celebrated each year as Buenos Aires archbishop to promote religious harmony.

A small group disrupted the event in the Metropolitan Cathedral, shouting the rosary and the "our Father" prayer and spreading pamphlets saying "followers of false gods must be kept out of the sacred temple." Their leader, father Christian Bouchacourt of the Society of Saint Pius X, said Monday that the pope "is not infallible and in this case, does things we cannot accept."

The annual ceremony brings together Catholics, Jews and Protestants to mark the anniversary of Kristallnacht, when 1,000 Jewish synagogues were burned in Nazi Germany, launching the Holocaust that killed 6 million Jews.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on November 14, 2013, 03:32:11 am
Talking about sideshow, the Vatican plans on displaying for the first time what they claim is Peter's bones.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 14, 2013, 05:04:27 pm
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2013/11/14/pope-franciss-life-is-in-danger-anti-mafia-judge-warns/
11/14/13
‘Pope Francis’s life is in danger,’ anti-mafia judge warns

Pope Francis’s life is in danger from ‘ndrangheta, Italy’s most feared crime group, a leading anti-mafia judge has said.

Nicola Gratteri, a magistrate in the southern city of Reggio Calabria, near ‘ndrangheta’s heartland, has said that Pope Francis’s crackdown on financial corruption in the Vatican, has angered bosses in the notorious crime squad.

Gratteri said: “I don’t know if organised crime is in the position to do something, but it’s certainly thinking about it. It could be dangerous.”

He said Francis was “on the right path” in attempting to clean out the stables at the Vatican.

But Mr Gratteri, who has written a book on the Church’s links to ‘ndrangheta, said the mob “that has until now profited from the power and riches derived directly from the church is nervous, agitated.”

Speaking to Il Fatto Quotidiano newspaper, he added: “Pope Bergoglio is dismantling centres of economic power in the Vatican. If the bosses can stop him they won’t hesitate.”

The Vatican spokesman was not available to comment.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 14, 2013, 10:27:36 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-not-danger-mafia-vatican-says-192049217--abc-news-topstories.html
Pope Francis Not in Danger From Mafia, Vatican Says
11/14/13

The Vatican dismissed concerns today that Pope Francis could be a target of Italian organized crime because his reforms threaten what one mafia expert said were long-time ties between the church and criminal syndicates.

"There is no concrete reason that would lead us to worry. There is no reason to feed alarmism," the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the director of the Vatican's press office, told ABC News. "We are very calm."

Recent news reports quoted Nicola Gratteri, a respected Italian anti-mafia prosecutor, as having said that the pope's drive to reform the Catholic Church was making organized-crime members "nervous." He added, "I cannot say if the organization is in a position to do something like this, but they are dangerous and it is worth reflecting on."

Pope Francis Through the Years

Gratteri has investigated the globally-powerful clan organization with roots in the Calabria region of Southern Italy called the 'Ndrangheta. He made these remarks on Italian TV channel RAINEWS24 when presenting his newly-released book "Holiest Water" about the Catholic Church and ties to the 'Ndrangheta criminal syndicate.

Gratteri also said that the pope was dismantling centers of economic power, like in the case of the Vatican bank, which was changing clan member's ability to do business with the alleged complicity of the clergy.

Although the number of high-profile killings by mafia organizations has declined in Italy since the 1990s, organized crime groups are still very much involved in prostitution, extortion and drug trafficking and they wield enormous economic power.

The major Italian clans include the Sicilian Cosa Nostra, the Camorra from the southern city of Naples and the Calabrian 'Ndrangheta, which is considered one of the most powerful and vicious. Their combined illegal activities, according to the United Nations, generate an annual turnover of $150 billion.

The pope has publicly embarked on a reform of the church and has said he wants a "poor church for the poor." In just a week has spoken out twice during his early morning mass homilies against corruption, bribes and "dirty" money.

This is not the first time he has targeted criminal activity in his speeches. In May soon after his election and a day after the Vatican beatified a Sicilian priest murdered 20 years ago by the Sicilian Mafia, Pope Francis spoke out against Cosa Nostra, accusing them of exploiting and enslaving people.

At his weekly Sunday prayer to the faithful, he called on members of the Italian organized crime to repent. His words, recalled soon-to-be-saint Pope John Paul II's words 20 years ago when during a 1993 pilgrimage to Sicily, John Paul angrily shouted his call to Mafia members to repent or face the judgment of God.

A number of Italian judicial investigations over the years, however, have documented the collusion of members of the clergy with illicit political power and organized crime. In the preface to the book prosecutor Gratteri writes "from the beginning of the 1800's the men of the 'Ndrangheta benefited from the silence and the indifference of the church (often because of their interest). The first official criminal complaints were only made in the 1950's when the first pastoral letters were written and the 'Ndragheta' was deemed a "ruinous cancer."

Pope Francis' simple style and wish to be in close contact with the faithful has alarmed some who worry about his security, but the Vatican has repeatedly said that there is no reason to be concerned. The pope himself has said that he wants to keep his contact with people, but that he does follow the advice of his body guards. Although discreet, the Vatican has a well-trained security team that watches the pope as he moves about within --and outside --Vatican walls.

Today in the latest sign of his desire to scale back the formality and security restraints of his office, he travelled in his Ford Focus car in a five-car motorcade through Rome's traffic with no siren and no special road blocks on his first state visit to the Italian president, Giorgio Napolitano. Two police motorcyclists drove alongside the pope's car in the motorcade through the streets as an escort. The Vatican had declined the traditional escort by presidential guard on horseback when planning the visit.

These state visits, normally full of pomp and involving large delegations, turned into a much quieter and less staid affair today. The pope was accompanied by a delegation of only eight cardinals and bishops. He conversed in a relaxed fashion as he walked slowly in pace with the 88-year old president and in yet another break from tradition, went up to embrace and bless the children of the palace's employees who were gathered to greet him.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on November 15, 2013, 03:27:07 am
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Pope Francis’s life is in danger

True, but not from some mafia assassin.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 15, 2013, 12:43:33 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/14/sarah-palin-pope-francis_n_4277402.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
11/14/13
Sarah Palin Apologizes For Remarks On Pope Francis ::)

Former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin apologized Thursday for her criticism of Pope Francis and his "liberal" statements.

"It was not my intention to be critical of Pope Francis," Palin wrote Thursday on her Facebook page. "I was reminding viewers that we need to do our own homework on news subjects, and I hadn't done mine yet on the Pope's recent comments as reported by the media."

**Uhm, he made these comments clear as day. What more "homework" do we have to do?

She continued, "I apologize for not being clearer in my response, thus opening the door to critical liberal media that does what it does best in ginning up controversy."

**You mean you regard Pope Frankie as a *conservative*? ::)

During a Tuesday interview with CNN's Jake Tapper, Palin said she was taken "aback" by some of the Pope's remarks.

"He's had some statements that to me sound kind of liberal, has taken me aback, has kind of surprised me," Palin said. "Unless I really dig deep into what his messaging is, and do my own homework, I’m not going to just trust what I hear in the media."

Read Palin's Facebook post below:

Just to clarify my comment to Jake Tapper about Pope Francis, it was not my intention to be critical of Pope Francis. I was reminding viewers that we need to do our own homework on news subjects, and I hadn't done mine yet on the Pope's recent comments as reported by the media. Knowing full well how often the media mischaracterizes a person’s comments (especially a religious leader’s), I don’t trust them to get it right when it comes to reporting on the Vatican. I do, however, trust my many Catholic friends and family, including some excellent Catholic writers, who have since assured me that Pope Francis is as sincere and faithful a shepherd of his church as his two predecessors whom I admired. I apologize for not being clearer in my response, thus opening the door to critical media that does what it does best in ginning up controversy.

- Sarah Palin

**Wow! Look at the pot calling the kettle black! Why are YOU(Ms. Palin) part of the MSM establishment? And since when has Catholicism been *conservative*? ::)



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 17, 2013, 04:10:28 pm
Dont forget that Sarah Palin participated in witchcraft ceremonies inside her church,

‘Francis effect’ pulls crowds back to church

 POPE FRANCIS has inspired a surge in attendances and confessions in the Roman Catholic Church, reversing decades of decline.

In the eight months since he was chosen, cathedrals in Britain have seen a rise of about 20% in congregations, drawing in both new and lapsed members.

More than half of the priests surveyed in Italy said there had been a rise in support for the church. In Spain, the church has halted a decade-long slump in attendance.

Catholic leaders in the US, France and Latin America report growth in the faithful. In Argentina, the Pope’s home country, 12% more now define themselves as religious than before his appointment.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Society/article1341650.ece


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 17, 2013, 07:10:11 pm
And there's also the rise of these seeker-sensitive megachurches - whose pastors like Rick Warren have close ties to the RCC. And these megachurches practice in this RCC witchcraft nonsense as well.

None of this is a coincidence(as we're seeing prophecy come to pass here).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on November 18, 2013, 02:28:49 am
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Dont forget that Sarah Palin participated in witchcraft ceremonies inside her church,

Hadn't head that one.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 18, 2013, 08:54:37 am
Hadn't head that one.

I was thinking of Christine O'Donnell, Palin had a Kenyan Wich hunter, bless her. sorry about that. And i really question the which hunters "powers"...  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 18, 2013, 11:00:46 am
Hadn't head that one.

Palin attends a Pentecostal church. She did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on November 18, 2013, 03:38:32 pm
I was thinking of Christine O'Donnell, Palin had a Kenyan Wich hunter, bless her. sorry about that. And i really question the which hunters "powers"...  ::)

Sorry, "heard".

So yeah, that was who came to mind when I read that. I figured I just hadn't read anything about it.

You have every right to question that witch's "power".

"How can Satan cast out Satan?"


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 24, 2013, 08:32:51 am
'A Pope Francis-Nancy Pelosi Catholic'

The media gushes over the Francis effect because it just means liberalizing the Church.


n a front-page Washington Post story about the soft style of Pope Francis, Gregory Popcak, who is described as a “marriage and family counselor on the radio and in private practice in Ohio,” related an anecdote about a client who quit therapy on the grounds that “I’m much more of a Pope Francis-Nancy Pelosi Catholic, and you’re an old-school, Pope John Paul II Catholic.”
 
That story, which is unfolding across many dioceses, captures the tediously trumpeted “Francis effect” perfectly. Nancy Pelosi, for that matter, illustrates the phenomenon. She too sees herself as a Pope Francis-Nancy Pelosi Catholic.  Pope Francis is “starting to sound like a nun,” she gushed recently, meaning presumably a silly and left-wing one.
 
Of course, the cardinal of Washington, D.C., Donald Wuerl,  another beaming expert on the Francis effect, keeps the Communion line open for Pelosi no matter how many unborn babies she votes to kill. Cardinal Raymond Burke, who is the foremost authority on canon law as the head of the Vatican Supreme Court, has said repeatedly that priests should deny her Holy Communion. But Wuerl refuses, saying, simultaneously, that denial isn’t “pastoral” and sniffing that Pelosi isn’t a member of “his flock.” That comically craven and contradictory copout is all one needs to know about the emptiness of “pastoral” Catholicism.
 
Meanwhile, the Pope Francis-Nancy Pelosi Catholics can’t stop thinking about tomorrow. The New York Times is positively giddy about the liberal destruction in store for the Church under Pope Francis. Bill Keller, its former executive editor, once described himself as a “collapsed Catholic.” Now its columnist Timothy Egan has coined a new description: “lapsed but listening.”
 
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,” predicted St. Paul of worldly Christians. Egan’s ears are certainly tickling at the relativistic noises of Pope Francis.

At long last, exults Egan, a New York Times-friendly liberal occupies the chair of St. Peter:
 
Pope Francis has shown himself to be a free spirit and a free thinker. He loves the music of Mozart, the paintings of Chagall, the films of Fellini. He tweets. He talks to atheists. He stays out of politics. He calls for the faithful to “mess up the church.” He doesn’t moralize or sermonize, and famously said, when asked about gays, “Who am I to judge?” Is this pope Catholic?...Francis has befuddled the guardians of dogma and medieval sexual doctrines who have long kept sunlight out of the Vatican. He is — gasp — a liberal. 
 
God’s Rottweiler has gone to pasture and the Pope’s poodles are roaming free and happy. “People come up to me all the time on the street or at a restaurant and say things like, ‘I just need to tell someone how much I like this pope of yours,’” Father Stephen Sundborg, the Jesuit president of Seattle University, told Egan. “Suddenly, it seems O.K. to be a priest out there.”
 
Egan, whose knowledge of the Jesuits dates to about the 1960s and conveniently ignores the unapologetic conservatism of St. Ignatius of Loyola, writes confidently that the “Jesuits have always tried to get people to think for themselves, to arrive at belief through an arduous process. When bishops started telling parishioners that their gay and lesbian siblings were sinners, and that family planning was a grievous wrong, people stopped listening to them — for good reason.”
 
Lost on Egan, as he recites all the dismal stats on fallen-away Catholics, is that this decline corresponds to a liberal, not conservative, period in the life of the Church. The pews of the big bad pre-Vatican II Church were full; the pews of “pastoral” Francis-style Jesuit shepherds are empty.
 
At the field hospitals of the Catholic left, the sheep have choked and died on the “medicine of mercy,” the euphemism for people-pleasing heterodoxy among spirit-of-Vatican II liberals. There is no reason to suppose a strengthened dose will raise any of the patients from the dead.
 
The Egans and Kellers will remain lapsed even if they are “listening” to Francis with itching ears, for all they hear is a confirmation of their smug apostasy.

http://spectator.org/articles/56618/pope-francis-nancy-pelosi-catholic


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 26, 2013, 01:58:09 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-issues-mission-statement-papacy-110148215.html
Pope issues mission statement for papacy
11/26/13

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis issued the mission statement for his papacy Tuesday, outlining how the Catholic Church and the papacy itself must be reformed to create a more missionary and merciful church that gets its hands dirty as it seeks out the poor and oppressed.

In the 85-page document, Francis pulled together the priorities he has laid out in eight months of homilies, speeches and interviews and put them in the broader context of how to reinvigorate the church's evangelical zeal in a world marked by indifference, secularization and vast income inequalities.

He explained his most controversial remarks criticizing the church's "obsession" with transmitting a disjointed set of moral doctrines, saying that in the church's "hierarchy of truths," mercy is paramount, proportion is necessary, and that what counts is inviting the faithful in.

He went even further Tuesday, saying some of the church's historical customs can even be cast aside if they no longer serve to communicate the faith. Citing St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, Francis stressed the need for moderation in norms "so as to not burden the lives of the faithful."

**St. Augustine came up with this A-Millenianism escatology deception in the 3rd or 4th century - now the modern day, organized Baptist/Protestant churches embrace this by and large.

At the same time, Francis restated the church's opposition to abortion, making clear that this doctrine is non-negotiable and is at the core of the church's insistence on the dignity of every human being.

 ::) Didn't he say not too long ago that the "church" shouldn't put this a priority?

The document, Evangelii Gaudium, (The Joy of the Gospel), is the second major teaching document issued by Francis but is the first actually written by him since the encyclical "The Light of Faith," issued in July, was penned almost entirely by Pope Benedict XVI before he resigned.

Francis wrote the bulk of it in August, during the Vatican's summer lull, said Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi.

Francis' concerns are laced throughout, and the theological and historical citations leave no doubt about his own points of reference and priorities: Popes John XXIII and Paul VI, who presided over the Second Vatican Council, which brought the church into the modern world, are cited repeatedly.

And in a first for an apostolic exhortation, as this type of papal pronouncement is called, Francis cited various documents of bishops' conferences from around the world, an indication of the importance he places in giving the local church greater say in church governance and decision-making.

"I prefer a church which is bruised, hurting and dirty because it has been out on the streets, rather than a church which is unhealthy from being confined and from clinging to its own security," he wrote. "I do not want a church concerned with being at the center and then ends up by being caught up in a web of obsessions and procedures."

Uhm...scripture NEVER says the church has to be "dirty". ::)

1Cor_6:11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

He added: "More than by fear of going astray, my hope is that we will be moved by the fear of remaining shut up within structures which give us a false sense of security, within rules which make us harsh judges, within habits which make us feel safe, while at our door people are starving and Jesus does not tire of saying to us, 'Give them something to eat.'"

In the frank and often funny style that has come to define Francis' preaching, the Argentine Jesuit chastised priests for their complacency, giving them a lesson on preparing homilies that don't put the faithful to sleep. He reminded them that confession shouldn't be "torture," and told them to get out of their sacristies, get their shoes muddy, get involved in the lives of their faithful and not be defeatist "sourpusses."

He said their greatest concern must be the poor and marginalized, since they are victims of an unjust, global economic system that prizes profit over people. He said the poor need the tender, merciful love that the church can provide.

**But the Vatican, which is LOADED with trillion$, doesn't count? ::)

While again ruling out women's ordination, Francis called for greater role for women in making decisions in the church and said the faithful ought not to think that just because priests preside over Mass that they are more important than the people who make up the church itself.

"The church, as the agent of evangelization, is more than an organic hierarchical institution; she is first and foremost a people advancing on its pilgrim way towards God," he wrote.

Francis cited Vatican II documents calling for a more decentralized church authority and said he too must rethink the papacy to achieve the goals of spreading the faith. He noted that Pope John Paul II had asked for proposals to rethink the way the primacy of the pope is exercised, a delicate and potentially revolutionary issue that hasn't yet been resolved.

Francis is currently overseeing a major overhaul of the Vatican's dysfunctional administration, but he said that he was "open to suggestions" about how to change the very nature of the papacy and its relation to the world's bishops conferences, to make the papacy reflect better what Jesus intended and what the church needs today.

"Excessive centralization, rather than proving helpful, complicates the church's life and her missionary outreach," he said.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 26, 2013, 04:36:38 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/video/pope-francis-criticism-capitalism-204500622.html
11/26/13
Pope Francis' criticism of capitalism

CNBC's Eamon Javers reports on the Vatican's release of the Pope's apostolic exhortation, his first major piece of writing since becoming Pontiff, where Pope Francis is very critical of the excesses of capitalism.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 27, 2013, 09:29:11 pm
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101231497?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=101231497%7CPope%20finds%20a%20new%20enemy-ca
11/27/13
Pope finds a new enemy—capitalism

Pope Francis's attack on some of the values of capitalism has reignited a long-running debate about whether the free market is compatible with Christianity.

The recently elected Pope continued his revitalization of the Church with an outspoken statement against the "new tyranny" of "unfettered capitalism."

"Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth,encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world,"he wrote, in a direct rebuttal of the theory espoused by free-market thinkers that wealth eventually benefits the whole of society.

"This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralised workings of the prevailing economic system."

With the Catholic Church itself running a bank at the Vatican and historically welcoming to wealthy donors, some may find a disconnect. The church was also notoriously anti-communist during the Iron Curtain years, even excommunicating communists.

Still, the Bible – the Church's founding text -- states pretty clearly that it's tricky for rich men to get into heaven. And there are probably a few multinational companies who could take advice on how to pay their taxes from Matthew 22: 21 on rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's.

One defendant of the theory that business can lift more people out of poverty than philanthropy is Lloyd Blankfein, the Goldman Sachs chief executive, who famously claimed he was doing "God's work"at the investment bank.

The late Pope John Paul II argued that the church's attitude towards capitalism was all down to how it was practised.

"Although decisively condemning 'socialism,' the Church, since Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum, has always distanced itself from capitalistic ideology, holding it responsible for grave social injustices," he said in 1993.

"(The church) recognizes the positive value of the market and of enterprise, but…at the same time points out that these need to be oriented toward the common good."

In essence, no to Gordon Gekko, yes to Bill Gates.

"There have always been parts of the Catholic Church which are more left- and more right-leaning," Anna Rowlands, lecturer in theology and ministry at King's College London, told CNBC.

"The really new development in this is the attack on the trickle-down theory. To pick it out and say that it prevents progress in terms of human dignity and the economy is different. He has taken a very distinctive, strong stance on public policy and the way economic policies have been exported as part of the Western attitude to developing economies."

Before his elevation to the papacy, Pope Francis spent most of his life in Argentina, which is no stranger to financial crisis. This time round, in the euro zone, compared to their Protestant northern neighbors, it is the Catholic countries of Ireland; Spain and Portugal which have been worst hit by the credit crisis (apart from Greek Orthodox Greece).

"With Pope Francis, what we see is someone who lived in Argentina all his life, lived through a financial crisis and experienced what happens when markets make a country go under. He's a non-Westerner reminding the West of what happens when markets go wrong," Abigail Frymann, online editor of Catholic newspaper The Tablet, told CNBC.

The new Pope is also on a mission to tackle one of the Church institutions most open to accusations of corruption. As part of his reforms, the Vatican's bank, the Institute for Religious Works, which is often accused of Mafia links published its first ever annual report this year. In July, the account of a senior cleric, Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, arrested by Italian police in June on suspicion of trying to move 20 million euros illegally, was frozen by the Vatican.

"He has taken control and he has instituted a greater transparency in dealing with actions like money laundering and corruption around the Vatican's bank," Rowlands said.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 27, 2013, 10:45:21 pm
Pope Francis Attacks Capitalism, Calls for State Control
11/27/13
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/11/27/Pope-Francis-Attacks-Capitalism-Calls-for-State-Control

In a far-ranging 50,000 word statement released by Pope Francis on Tuesday, he illustrated that he is sympathetic to the tenets of liberation theology and hostile to capitalism.

Liberation theology, which is a recent movement that essentially began at the second Latin American Bishops’ Conference in Colombia in 1968, believes that social systems that contribute to the economic state of the poor should be overthrown. At that conference, the teachings of Jesus Christ were combined with those of Karl Marx to call for violent revolution to overthrow capitalism. The text that emerged that was later used as inspiration was A Theology of Liberation, written in 1971, by Gustavo Gutiérrez, a Peruvian priest and theologian.

In September 2013, Pope Francis held a meeting with Gutiérrez, and L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican's semi-official newspaper, published an essay describing it on Sept. 3. The essay asserted that because Francis is the first pope from Latin America, liberation theology can no longer "remain in the shadows to which it has been relegated for some years, at least in Europe."  Michael Lee, associate professor of theology at Fordham University in New York, said that the experience Francis had hailing from South America "is present in the person of Francis and in the Vatican now in a way that it never has been before. What only makes sense is, then, a reopening of the door to this theology that emerged from that context and spoke so powerfully to it, and continues to do so."

Before the advent of  liberation theology, Catholicism hated socialism and communism, regarding them as “godless.” Pope Leo XIII (1878-1903) wrote an entire encyclical condemning socialism.

But now Pope Francis seems to be embracing a condemnation of capitalism instead, and an embracing of socialistic principles. Here are some statements from his text on Tuesday:

Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized:

… some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.

One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. The current financial crisis can make us overlook the fact that it originated in a profound human crisis: the denial of the primacy of the human person!

While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born...

So Francis believes that capitalism, which defends the right to a free market system, is to be discarded, while the right of states, “charged with vigilance for the common good,” to exercise control over the economic status of the people, is laudable. Lenin would not be disappointed.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on November 28, 2013, 02:33:04 am
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now Pope Francis seems to be embracing a condemnation of capitalism instead, and an embracing of socialistic principles.

Is anybody really surprised by that? He's from socialistic Argentina. Socialism is rampant in South America.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 28, 2013, 08:59:12 am
Is anybody really surprised by that? He's from socialistic Argentina. Socialism is rampant in South America.

I know both political parties(GOP/Dem) are merely 2 opposite sides of the same coin, but nonetheless the RCC has infiltrated the GOP especially since the formation of the so-called "religious right" in the 1980's. And ever since Pope Frankie started making his eyeraising comments recently, it's REALLY caused a lot of split and division in the GOP(at least from what I've read on their message forums). Even these so-called "liberal media" critics like Brent Bozell, Rush, FOX, etc have been doing everything they can to DEFEND Frankie. Pretty much, they're acting like the "liberal media" has twisted Frankie's comments.

IOW - if Obama or Pelosi had made anti-capitalist comments, this same group would be in outrage.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 03, 2013, 06:42:34 am
Democrat Congressman to Sharpton: 'You and the Pope Are on the Same Wavelength'

Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) told the Rev. Al Sharpton of MSNBC on Wednesday that Sharpton and the pope are "on the same wavelength." McDermott's observation on what he perceives as the similarity between Sharpton and the pope came up in a discussion of food stamps. McDermott noted that when Jesus fed five thousand people with five loaves of bread and two fish, “he didn’t charge food stamps.”

“When Jesus had those five loaves and two fishes, he didn't charge food stamps. He didn't ask anybody how much money they had. He fed them because they were hungry, and that's really where we ought to be,” McDermott said in response to Republican critics of the SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).

In September, the House approved a plan by Republicans to cut $39 billion in food stamps over the next 10 years. In 2009, there were 33,489,975 people on food stamps. As of Nov. 8, 2013, a total of 47,666,124 people participated in the SNAP program (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).

“Congressman, what do your Republican congressman say to you when you tell them how much their policies are really hurting real people, real poor people?” Rev. Al Sharpton, host of “PoliticsNation,” asked McDermott.

“They really don't believe it, Rev. They're not listening to the pope. You and the pope are on the same wavelength. The income equality is just going by most of these people. What they ought to be done is require that they go to a food bank at a church or something, somewhere in their neighborhood and stand there and talk to the people,” McDermott said.

“You would find out these are not people who are not trying. They're not people who are taking from the public. They're not people who want to be there. They're people who are ashamed in many instances to be doing something they never thought they’d be brought to, and they're having difficulty, and we're the richest nation in the world,” he added.

“And he didn't call them names,” Sharpton said.

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/democrat-congressman-sharpton-you-and-pope-are-same-wavelength#sthash.QL00t83a.dpuf


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 03, 2013, 06:47:53 am
Democrat Congressman to Sharpton: 'You and the Pope Are on the Same Wavelength'


Yep, they are both Liars, Cheaters, Thieves, Extortionists, and just creepy


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 03, 2013, 11:58:44 am
And despite THIS, the so-called GOP establishment is STILL in DENIAL over Pope Frankie's comments. So now Rush Limbaugh is part of the "liberal media" establishment now? ::)

Yeah, they are dividing and conquering...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/rush-limbaugh-pope-francis_n_4373635.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
12/2/13
Rush Limbaugh vs. Pope Francis: Talk Show Host Attacks 'Pure Marxism' Of 'Evangelii Gaudium'



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 03, 2013, 12:11:53 pm
 :o

Soros-Funded Catholic Group Denounces Rush Limbaugh's Disagreement with Pope
11/29/13
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/28/Spokesman-For-Liberal-Catholic-Group-Denounces-Rush-Limbaugh-s-Comments-About-Pope-Francis-Rebuke-Of-Capitalism

A spokesman for the liberal organization Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good (CACG) has posted on the group’s website a denunciation of what he states were “incendiary remarks about Pope Francis” by conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday.

Limbaugh said that Pope Francis was wrong in his apostolic exhortation released this week in which he appears to blame capitalism for the reason why people are poor in the world.

CACG’s Christopher Jolly Hale wrote on Wednesday:

Catholics of all political stripes are disturbed by Rush Limbaugh's incendiary comments this afternoon about Pope Francis. To call the Holy Father a proponent of "pure marxism" is both mean spirited and naive. Francis's critique of unrestrained capitalism is in line with the Church's social teaching. His particular criticism of "trickle down economics" strengthens what Church authorities have said for decades: any economic system which deprives the poor of their dignity has no place within a just society.

Contrary to what Mr. Limbaugh suggests, the Catholic Church isn't built on money, but on the firm foundation of Jesus Christ.

We call on Mr. Limbaugh to apologize and retract his remarks. We urge other Church organizations and leaders--both ordained and lay--to also condemn Mr. Limbaugh's comments.

We proudly stand with Pope Francis as he provides prophetic leadership for the Catholic Church and the entire world.

Following the release of the pope’s exhortation, entitled Evangelii Gaudium, Hale wrote:

Pope Francis's words have given new vigor to what the Church has been saying for decades: 'trickle down economics' and other economic agendas which work against the poor and promote inequality have no place in a just society. Pope Francis's words should have particular resonance here in the United States as we enter into next month's budget negotiations. The pope makes it clear that these budgetary decisions should above all else benefit the poorest of Americans.

We make Pope Francis's words our own: "I beg the Lord gives us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people and the lives of the poor!"

In 2009, Accuracy in Media (AIM) reported that CACG had received $200,000 in funding from George Soros's Open Society Institute.

A leader of another Soros-funded Catholic organization, Faith in Public Life (FPL), a group that was founded with the help of John Podesta’s Center for American Progress, also praised Pope Francis’ view of the “tyranny” of trickle-down economics.

John Gehring, Catholic Outreach Coordinator of FPL, praised Pope Francis for his “headline-grabbing comments that Catholicism must not be known exclusively for obsession with a few hot-button issues.”

About the pope’s exhortation, Gehring wrote:

In many ways, this is traditional Catholic teaching about economic justice that builds on the foundations laid in the first social encyclical about capital and labor released in 1891 by Pope Leo XIII. But to contemporary American ears accustomed to hearing full-throated Catholic arguments only when it comes to abortion and same sex marriage, this unequivocal economic critique of unfettered markets packs a punch.

Directing his comments at Republicans Speaker John Boehner and Rep. Paul Ryan, Gehring said that while they “slash billions from nutrition programs and are daily communicants in the church of free-market fundamentalism, Pope Francis rejects trickle-down economics as a moral and practical failure.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 03, 2013, 06:14:28 pm
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/dec/02/eu-vatican-russia/

Putin shows faith, kisses Madonna icon at Vatican
 
The Associated Press

Monday, Dec. 2, 2013 | 12:19 a.m.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has shown off his religious side during a visit to the Vatican, stopping to cross himself and kiss an icon of the Madonna that he gave to Pope Francis.

Putin and Francis met privately for 35 minutes Monday evening in the pope's private library. The Vatican didn't immediately give details about the conversation.

Francis gave Putin a ceramic mosaic of the Vatican gardens, and Putin presented Francis with an image of the icon of the Madonna of Vladimir, an important religious icon for the Russian Orthodox faithful.

After they exchanged the gifts, Putin asked Francis if he liked it, and Francis said he did. Putin then crossed himself and kissed the image, and Francis followed suit.

The Argentine pope is particularly devoted to Marian icons.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 05, 2013, 12:47:46 pm
The GOP establishment goes from doing damage control over Pope Frankie's recent comments, to now creating a sideshow within their own selves...

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/rush-limbaugh-must-apologize-pope-francis-petition-demands-201304337.html
Rush Limbaugh Must Apologize to Pope Francis, Petition Demands
12/4/13

Rush Limbaugh owes il Papa a mea culpa. At least, that’s what a new online petition claims.

The petition, which has so far gathered more than 3,500 signatures, is demanding that the radio host apologize to Pope Francis for characterizing the pontiff as a Marxist.

Limbaugh lambasted the Pope on Wednesday, saying that Francis was engaging in “pure Marxism” with his recently released document “Evangelii Gaudium” (“The Joy of the Gospel”), which takes certain elements of modern capitalism to task. (In the document, Francis cautions that the “idolatry of money” could create a “new tyranny.”)

“I have been numerous times to the Vatican. It wouldn’t exist without tons of money. But regardless, what this is, somebody has either written this for him or gotten to him,” Limbaugh said. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the Pope.”

Limbaugh also called Francis’ knowledge of economics into question, saying, “It’s sad because this pope makes it very clear he doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to capitalism and socialism and so forth.”

The petition accuses Limbaugh of — gasp! — being far too centered on economics, and characterizes Pope Francis as a breath of fresh air after a period of “eroding values” in the Catholic church.

“Well we all know you only care about money Rush, but millions of people rely on the Pope to set a good example of offering love and compassion to humanity,” the petition reads. “After decades of eroding values and challenges to the Church we now have a Pope that will take a message of love and hope to the people.

“Too bad if this offends you Rush, you offend us!” the petition adds.

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Wonder if this same petition group would call out Rush if he called out Obama/Pelosi for making Marxist-supporting comments? ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 05, 2013, 01:04:53 pm
They should come read our site and tell us to apologize...  :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on December 05, 2013, 08:22:44 pm
The Argentine pope is particularly devoted to Marian icons.

This in particular is quite interesting. Wasn't there another world-beloved Catholic pope not long ago who had the same affinity for Marian icons/idols? Wasn't he also one of the driving forces behind ecumenism? Hmm...

Man, I really gotta find the time to make a thread...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 06, 2013, 03:48:40 am
Pope Francis is the Catholic Church’s Obama – God help us

Pope Francis is undergoing a popularity surge comparable to the way Barack Obama was greeted by the world in 2008. And just as President Obama has been a disappointment for America, Pope Francis will prove a disaster for the Catholic Church.

My fellow Catholics should be suspicious when bastions of anti-Catholicism in the left-wing media are in love with him.

Much is being made of his ‘compassion’ and ‘humility,’ but kissing babies and hugging the sick is nothing new. Every pope in recent memory has done the same, yet only now are the media paying attention. Benedict XVI and John Paul II refused to kowtow to the liberal agenda, and so such displays of tenderness were under-covered.

    Francis is beating a retreat for the Catholic Church, and making sure its controversial doctrines are whispered, not yelled – no wonder the New York Times is in love.

But Francis is beating a retreat for the Catholic Church, and making sure its controversial doctrines are whispered, not yelled – no wonder the New York Times is in love.

Just like President Obama loved apologizing for America, Pope Francis likes to apologize for the Catholic Church, thinking that the Church is at its best when it is passive and not offending anyone’s sensibilities.

In his interviews with those in the left-wing media he seeks to impress, Francis has said that the Church needs to stop being ‘obsessed’ with abortion and gay marriage, and instead of seeking to convert people, “we need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us.”

This softly-softly approach of not making a fuss has been tried before, and failed. The Second Vatican Council of the 1960’s aimed to “open the windows” of the Church to the modern world by doing just this.

The result was the Catholic version of New Coke. Across the West where the effects were felt, seminaries and convents emptied, church attendance plummeted, and adherence to Church doctrine diminished.

John Paul II and Benedict XVI worked hard to turn this trend around, but now Pope Francis wants the bad old days to resume.

Proof of this is Francis’ aforementioned statement of the Church being obsessed with controversial issues and the need to rebalance by talking about it less.

That Francis didn’t see that this would be translated into headlines of “Pope tells Catholics to shut up about things that offend Sandra Fluke” by every left-wing media outlet shows a terrifying naivety.

Nor do his comments reflect reality.

For years, the majority of priests didn't dare cover controversial topics in their homilies in fear of getting angry letters from pick-and-choose Catholics outraged that their pastor dared to say something out of line with the Democratic Party.

Most parishioners therefore haven’t heard the Church’s argument on controversial topics. Consequently, usage of contraception is only slightly lower in Catholics than in the general population, and support of gay marriage is actually higher in Catholics than the general population. Perhaps talking about it even less isn’t the answer?

In trying to please the media and the modern world, Francis mistakes their glee for respect. Just like Obama thought he’d won over Putin by promising a reset, Francis thinks by talking vacuously about the poor, he will be respected. And it is vacuous -- the pontiff recently asked why it’s news that the stock market drops but not when an old person dies. When your leader is asking, “Why isn’t the newspaper a laundry list of obituaries?” you know you elected the wrong guy.

What effect is this having? For all we’re being told about how ‘disenfranchised’ Catholics are being brought back by Francis ‘reaching out,’ a recent Pew Research study showed that in America, the number of people who identify as Catholic has actually decreased.  Lesson: rubbing the egos of Church-hating left-wingers doesn’t make more Catholics, it just makes the Church less respected.

Francis not only panders to enemies and professional grievance mongers, but also attacks his allies. Just as Obama snubs Britain and Israel, Pope Francis swipes at practicing Catholics.

So not only has he insulted, and severely damaged the work of, pro-life and pro-marriage groups with his comments, he has also gone on the attack, dismissing Catholics who attend the older rites in Latin as ‘ideologizing’ and being guilty of ‘exploitation.’ Apparently “Who am I to judge?” doesn’t apply here.

On world matters, Francis’ statements are embarrassing. About communism, a destructive ideology that slaughtered millions of Catholics, he said:

“Learning about it through a courageous and honest person was helpful. I realized…an aspect of the social, which I then found in the social doctrine of the Church."

Not such kind words for the free market, however. In his recent apostolic exhortation he slammed unfettered capitalism, calling it ‘a new tyranny.’

Apart from the fact that there is no major nation practicing unfettered capitalism (like Obama, Francis loves attacking straw men) there is more real tyranny in socialist cesspools like Francis’ home of Argentina than in places where capitalism is predominant.

In the document he rejects the free market and calls for governments to overhaul financial systems so they attack inequality. In doing so he shows himself painfully misguided on economics, failing to see that free markets have consistently lifted the poor out of poverty, while socialism merely entrenches them in it, or kills them outright.

Like Obama, Francis is unable to see the problems that are really endangering his people. Like Obama he mistakes the faithful for the enemy, the enemy for his friend, condescension for respect, socialism for justice and capitalism for tyranny.

As a Catholic, I do hope Francis’ papacy is a successful one, but from his first months he seems hell-bent on a path to undo the great work of Benedict XVI and John Paul II, and to repeat critical mistakes of the past.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/04/pope-francis-is-catholic-churchs-obama-god-help-us/

Really surprised this is on FOX news...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 06, 2013, 11:16:22 am
I've said this a number of other times in this thread, but will say it again - the GOP establishment has had their heads in the sand over Pope Frankie from day 1. Every time Frankie made pro-liberal comments, they're responses have been, "But the LIBERAL MEDIA took his comments out of context!". And lately when RUSH LIMBAUGH would expose him, they STILL had their heads in the sand - they were like, "But Limbaugh just read off of the other liberal media sources!". ::)

Yes, I know both Dem and GOP are nothing but controlled-opposition groups on the same coin - but nonetheless it's the GOP group that the RCC has infiltrated the most(b/c Churchianity votes this way).

Ultimately - enemies infiltrate from WITHIN, and NOT from without like these Obama-types!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 06, 2013, 01:02:24 pm
http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/12/06/pope-obama-idINDEE9B501G20131206
12/6/13
Obama calls pope 'soulful messenger' of peace, justice

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama likes what he sees from Pope Francis, who has called for a more humble Catholic Church that sides with the poor.

Obama offered praise to the new pontiff in an interview with MSNBC's "Hardball" on Thursday, saying Francis has used the power of his office to remind people of their obligations to others and future generations.

"I think Pope Francis is showing himself to be just an extraordinarily thoughtful, and soulful, messenger of peace and justice," Obama said.

Obama has not yet met the pope, but he said "everything that I've read, everything that I've seen from him indicates the degree to which he is trying to remind us of those core obligations."

Last week in Buenos Aires, the pope took on the issue of high youth unemployment, saying in a TN television interview that today people are living in an unjust international system in which "King Money" is at the center.

Obama sounds a similar message. This week he complained of income inequality in the United States and said the need to improve the plight of middle-class Americans is "what drives me as a grandson, a son, a father - as an American
."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 06, 2013, 03:02:42 pm
Pope Francis at Mass: Praying is a bit like “annoying” God

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Pope Francis spoke on the theme of prayer on Thursday, saying when we pray it’s a bit like annoying God so that he listens to us. His remarks came during his homily at the morning mass in the Santa Marta guesthouse.

rest: http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-at-mass-praying-is-a-bit-like-annoyin

Speaking at Mass, Pope Francis said "prayer has two attitudes: it’s needy and at the same time it’s certain of the fact that God, in his own way and his own time, will answer our need." A person who prays, he continued, "doesn’t fear disturbing God and nourishes a blind faith in His love." The Pope recalled how Jesus himself taught us to pray like the annoying friend who begs for food at midnight or like the widow with the corrupt judge. Another example he quoted was the gospel account of how the lepers approached Jesus, saying to him, “if you want, you can cure us.”

“Maybe this sounds strange,” the Pope said, “but praying is a bit like annoying God so that he listens to us. He stressed the importance of praying with insistence and not giving up after the first few attempts. “Jesus said “ask” but he also said to us, “Knock at the door” and he or she who knocks at the door makes a noise, disturbs or annoys.”
Therefore, Pope Francis continued, “prayer is insisting to the point of annoyance but also with an unshakeable certainty.” Just like the blind people in the Gospel who asked Jesus to be healed and when he asked them if they believed he could cure them, they assured him they did. The Pope concluding by saying that Jesus feels our need when we pray and also feels that we are certain of his help and that we’re speaking the truth about ourselves.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on December 06, 2013, 03:33:44 pm
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said the need to improve the plight of middle-class Americans

What about the plight of all Americans? Oh sorry, it really is a class thing.  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 06, 2013, 08:40:18 pm
Surprise!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gOKehSj6yI


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on December 07, 2013, 01:17:51 pm
Wow! As my teenagers say "In your face! "


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 08, 2013, 11:24:01 am
A United States 'Spring' Coming?
12/5/13

Could an "Arab Spring" type of upheaval be brewing in the United States? Is the frustration and anger toward our dysfunctional politics and economics beginning to reach a tipping point where young folks begin to push for profound change? Has our democracy become so broken that citizens are going to find creative avenues to express their feelings? Will we pass through the holidays and winter of our dysfunction to arrive at a spring of change? I sense a movement of social unrest growing strongly and quietly towards our own version of the Arab Spring.

Let's take a look at some of the factors that might be pointing in this direction. This past week the GDP showed very positive growth (up 3.6 percent in the third quarter), corporations are booking huge profits, the stock market is at an all time high, and we have more multimillionaires and billionaires than ever before. So why does 70 percent of the country believe the United States is off on the wrong track? Why is trust of our economic, governmental and political institutions at a historic low? Why is the poverty rate back to a historical high?

For more than a generation, the middle class of this country has not seen any significant improvement in their financial situation. In fact, when you factor in inflation, the majority of the country has actually seen a decline in their economic status over the past 25 years. The wealthiest 5 percent of America has basically garnered nearly all the gains we have seen in economic growth over the last few decades. Many in New York City, Washington, DC and small enclaves around the country have done very very well, while the rest of America is either stagnant or in decline. As we reflect on Nelson Mandela's passing it is time to ask if we have our own version of apartheid here - not by race, but by economic status.

And all the above has occurred as the presidency and Congress has been lead by both political parties and ideologies including conservatives and liberals. Young Americans have put their hopes in presidents of both political parties who said they were going to change Washington DC and bring a new kind of politics, and have come away very disappointed and frustrated. Recently polling shows these young Americans (along with other citizens) have gone from overwhelmingly supporting President Obama to now incredibly upset about another politician who said one thing and did another. And the economics and dreams of their own life has been set back once again.

So here we have a majority of Americans at best no better off in more than a generation. Citizens with an incredible distrust and disappointment in the federal government, Wall Street, and both political parties. Citizens who have tried voting for each party, but come away worse off and more disillusioned. And citizens who are still searching for authentic leadership where words and actions are integrated and one. It is no wonder the simple yet powerful and authentic message of Pope Francis has been applauded by both Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

The main activists in the Arab Spring were young people (and especially young men) who grew very frustrated and finally took to the streets. So why haven't the young men (and women) of main stream America taken more to the streets here and pushed their own version of a revolution? Maybe it is because they tried making change through regular politics and have now seen it hasn't worked. Maybe it is because they so far are preoccupied with video games which give them an outlet and a sense of control, but will soon tire of this as they realize there is more to life and want meaning.

Whatever the reason, at some point I believe the status quo in our politics and economics will no longer be acceptable to a large part of our country, and because the existing institutions are unresponsive, these agents of change will rise up in some way and very loudly and clearly say "enough is enough." And I think this will be a very good thing if it is done in a forceful and non-violent way.

**Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, and these Emergent Church leaders call themselves "change agents", FYI.

I have feared that the tragic school shooting and mass killings by deranged young men has been a canary in the coal mine for a growing dissatisfaction with life. I for one think we need some alternative for people in this country who have been ignored, misled, and forgotten about in the halls of power in DC and Wall Street to assert a new way and institute new leadership and structures that are responsive. Otherwise, a revolution of the heart and soul could easily become a clenched fist of force. As John F. Kennedy said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." It is time we begin to have this conversation more openly.

There you have it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/united-states-spring-coming/story?id=21110756&singlePage=true


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 11, 2013, 11:57:29 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-named-time-39-person-132543199--finance.html
Pope Francis named Time's Person of the Year
12/11/13

(Reuters) - Time magazine named Pope Francis its Person of the Year on Wednesday, crediting him with shifting the message of the Catholic Church while capturing the imagination of millions of people who had become disillusioned with the Vatican.

This is the third time the magazine has chosen a pope as its Person of the Year. Time gave that honor to Pope John Paul II in 1994 and to Pope John XXIII in 1963.

The Argentine pontiff - who, as archbishop of Buenos Aires was known as the slum cardinal for his visits to the poor and penchant for subway travel - beat former U.S. National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden and gay rights activist Edith Windsor for the award.

Other finalists included Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and U.S. Senator Ted Cruz from Texas.

"What makes this Pope so important is the speed with which he has captured the imaginations of millions who had given up on hoping for the church at all," Time said in its cover story.

"In a matter of months, Francis has elevated the healing mission of the church — the church as servant and comforter of hurting people in an often harsh world — above the doctrinal police work so important to his recent predecessors."

Time said the final selection was made by its editors, who had considered suggestions from the magazine's more than 2 million Twitter followers.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said Pope Francis, the first non-European pope in 1,300 years, the first from Latin America and the first Jesuit, was not seeking fame.

"It is a positive sign that one of the most prestigious recognitions by the international media has been given to a person who proclaims to the world spiritual, religious and moral values and speaks out forcefully in favor of peace and greater justice," Lombardi said in a statement.

"If this attracts men and women and gives them hope, the Pope is happy. If this choice of 'Person of the Year' means that many have understood this message, even implicitly, he is certainly glad."

In September, Francis gave a groundbreaking and frank interview, in which he said the Vatican must shake off an obsession with teachings on abortion, contraception and homosexuality, and become more merciful.

And in July, Francis told reporters he was not in a position to judge homosexuals who are of good will and in search of God, marking a break from his predecessor, Benedict, who said homosexuality was an intrinsic disorder.

Francis replaced Benedict in March after he abdicated.

The new pope's style is characterized by frugality. He shunned the spacious papal apartment in the Vatican's Apostolic Palace to live in a small suite in a Vatican guest house, and he prefers a Ford Focus to the traditional pope's Mercedes.

A champion of the downtrodden, he visited the island of Lampedusa in southern Italy in July to pay tribute to hundreds of migrants who had died crossing the sea from North Africa.

With the Catholic Church marred in recent years by sex abuse scandals, Francis formed a team of experts Thursday to consider ways to improve the screening of priests, to protect minors to help victims.

Still, Barbara Blaine, president of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP), a victim advocacy group, said in a statement Wednesday that more action was needed.

"After nine months of essentially ignoring the church's most severe crisis, (Pope Francis) hastily announced last week that he'll appoint an abuse study panel," Blaine said. "He has not, however, made a single child safer."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 11, 2013, 06:50:09 pm
http://www.ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2013/12/merchandising-church-machine-rises.html

Merchandising Church Machine Rises, Jesuit Pope Calls Out Idolatry, Satan Controls Both

 The Merchandising Church Machine Rises

The Jesuit Pope Calls Out Idolatry – Satan Controls Both

-The timing of this makes for a perfect setup-

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Both have "the appearance" of light (truth), but are full of darkness. The Pope is pagan. "The Machine" is money.

The Pope goes after “consumerism” right when Merchandising Church Machine is exposed, perfect timing

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http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2013/november/five-things-evangelicals-will-cheer-in-pope-francis-plan-to.html

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 – “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

The Greek word for the term “of righteousness” is the word “dikaiosynē” and it means - integrity, virtue, purity of life, rightness, correctness of thinking feeling, and acting

Satan’s ministers of integrity, virtue, purity of life, rightness, correctness of thinking feeling, and acting

So on one hand we have Satan’s Merchandising Church Machine as Satan’s ministers of righteousness chasing money in the name of Jesus and on the other hand we have Satan’s minister of righteousness, the Pope, calling out idolatry.

Both entities have the “appearance” of light (truth) but are full of darkness. Both entities are under Satan’s power.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 15, 2013, 08:55:26 am
http://news.yahoo.com/39-39-m-no-marxist-39-pope-francis-130636200.html
'I'm no Marxist', Pope Francis tells conservative critics ::)
12/15/13

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis, responding to conservative criticisms that his economic and social ideas smack of communism, said in an Italian newspaper interview on Sunday that he is not a Marxist but that even Marxists can be good people.

Francis also denied reports that he would name a woman cardinal, said there was good progress in cleaning up Vatican finances and confirmed that he would visit Israel and the Palestinian territories next year, La Stampa said.

Last month, American radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, who has a huge following in the United States, railed against the pope for written comments made on the world economy.

Limbaugh, who is not Catholic, said that parts of the document were "pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope" and suggested that someone else had written the papal document for him. He also accused the pope of going "beyond Catholicism" and being "purely political".

Asked about the accusations, which sparked a debate in the media and blogosphere last month, Francis, a member of the all-male Jesuit order associated with progressive social policies, said, "Marxist ideology is wrong. But in my life I have known many Marxists who are good people, so I don't feel offended."

He has also been criticized by other conservatives.

In last month's document, seen as a platform for his papacy, Francis attacked unfettered capitalism as "a new tyranny" said an "economy of exclusion and inequality" had proven to be deadly for many people around the world.

In his response to the critics, Francis said he was not speaking "as a technician but according to the social doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, and this does not mean being Marxist". He said he was just trying to present a "snapshot of what is happening" in the world today.

In another document last week, Francis said huge salaries and bonuses were symptoms of an economy based on greed and called again for nations to narrow the wealth gap.

CONSERVATIVE CONCERN

Conservatives in the 1.2 billion member Church have expressed concern and disappointment about some of the pope's pronouncements, such as when he said he was not in a position to judge homosexuals who are people of good will sincerely seeking God.

Asked about speculation that a woman could be among the new cardinals he will appoint early next year, he said: "I don't know where that idea comes from. Women in the Church should be valued, not 'clericalised'."

In other parts of the interview, Francis also said a committee of eight cardinals from around the world who are advising him on changes to the Vatican structure would make its first formal recommendations to him in February but that reform would be a "lengthy task".

He said that reform of the Vatican's sometimes murky finances was "on the right path" and expressed satisfaction that last week a Council of Europe committee called Moneyval gave the Vatican a good evaluation of its efforts to abide by international financial standards.

He said he had not yet decided what to do about the Vatican bank, which has been touched by scandals over the decades. In the past he has not ruled out closing it.

Francis said he was "getting ready" to go to the Holy Land next year to mark the 50th anniversary of when Pope Paul VI became the first pope in modern times to visit there.

He has been invited by both Israel and the Palestinian Authority to make a visit, which is expected to take place in May or June.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on December 15, 2013, 08:07:28 pm
Francis said he was "getting ready" to go to the Holy Land next year to mark the 50th anniversary of when Pope Paul VI became the first pope in modern times to visit there.

He has been invited by both Israel and the Palestinian Authority to make a visit, which is expected to take place in May or June.

Does this remind anyone of what was on Cutting Edge a while back, from Bill Lambert?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 15, 2013, 08:28:22 pm
Does this remind anyone of what was on Cutting Edge a while back, from Bill Lambert?

Could you elaborate again over what he said? I remember some of the things he said(how since 1985, they laid out the blueprint for the 3rd Temple and hoped to get it completed by 2010. And how when their New Age "Christ" appeared, they expected "disappearances" from those who didn't respond to their Maitreya figure). But don't remember everything else he said.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 17, 2013, 09:37:44 am
Gay Rights Mag Names Pope Francis 'Person of the Year' Despite Same-Sex Marriage Stance

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A leading lifestyle magazine that promotes gay rights and same-sex marriage has named Pope Francis its “Person of the Year.”

The December issue of The Advocate features Pope Francis with a “NO H8” message photoshopped on his right cheek. Next to his photo is a quote from the pope’s interview with reporters in July, while en route from Brazil to Rome.

“If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?” the pontiff told reporters.
 
Pope Francis, who opposes same-sex marriage and vehemently fought its passage while he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, was chosen as The Advocate’s “Person of the Year” over Edie Windsor, of U.S. v. Windsor, the Supreme Court’s DOMA case, whom the magazine refers to as “a hero to LGBT Americans for taking the final punch in the fight against the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act…”

Regarding its choice of Pope Francis, The Advocate states:

Pope Francis is leader of 1.2 billion Roman Catholics all over the world. There are three times as many Catholics in the world than there are citizens in the United States. Like it or not, what he says makes a difference. Sure, we all know Catholics who fudge on the religion's rules about morality. There's a lot of disagreement, about the role of women, about contraception, and more. But none of that should lead us to underestimate any pope's capacity for persuading hearts and minds in opening to LGBT people, and not only in the U.S. but globally…

Francis's view on how the Catholic Church should approach LGBT people was best explained in his own words during an in-depth interview with America magazine in September. He recalled, “A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person? We must always consider the person.”

In this statement, however, as some bishops have explained, Pope Francis was simply reinforcing what has always been the teaching of the Church: that all persons are to be treated with dignity and respect.

The Advocate, nevertheless, attempts to contrast Pope Francis sharply with his predecessors, Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI—who, the publication says, “commanded the influence of the Vatican – until this year.”

John Paul II, The Advocate says, joined then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in declaring homosexuality as “intrinsically evil.”

Ironically, however, the magazine refers to Pope Francis’ words as a “stark change in rhetoric,” though the future pope wrote in 2010 when the debate about same-sex marriage was at its peak in Argentina, “Let’s not be naïve: This is not a simple political struggle, but an attempt to destroy God’s plan. It is not just a bill but a move of the Father of Lies, who seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, chairman of the U.S. Bishops’ Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage, recently emphasized that Pope Francis’ words about homosexuality simply underscore the call for Christians to treat all persons with dignity. At the same time, Francis has joined with John Paul II, whom he will be canonizing next year, and Benedict XVI “to clearly promote and defend marriage and family, recognizing that this is in everyone’s best interest as members of a common society.”

Cordileone said that while “Pope Francis has forcefully reminded us that we are to show love and respect to all people and to seek their greatest good,” it is also “disgraceful that some legislators would manipulate the words of Pope Francis to suggest that he would support marriage redefinition.”

The archbishop said the redefinition of marriage is a “serious injustice” and that marriage between one man and one woman exists to protect “authentic rights, especially the right of children to have a married mother and father.”

The Advocate, nevertheless, in honoring Pope Francis, states, “…LGBT Catholics who remain in the church now have more reason to hope that change is coming.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/16/Pope-Francis-Same-Sex-Marriage-Opponent-Named-Person-of-the-Year-By-Gay-Rights-Mag


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 17, 2013, 09:46:01 am
It won't be long until Frankie endorses gay marriage 100%.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 18, 2013, 04:46:09 pm
Pope Francis drawing crowds four times larger than predecessor

More than two million people have flocked to Pope Francis' general audiences in St. Peter's Square since his election in March, four times the number that Pope Benedict drew in all of 2012.
 
The Vatican said on Wednesday it had issued 1,548,500 tickets for the 30 Wednesday general audiences Francis has held since his election on March 13 as the first non-European pope in 1,300 years.
 
But it said the actual number was "much larger" because no tickets are needed for the rear section of the square and surrounding streets, which accommodate overflow. That area, which fits at least 20,000, is regularly filled during Francis' audiences.
 
The Vatican did not issue comparative figures on Wednesday but figures released on January 4 showed that 447,000 tickets were issued for the 43 general audiences held by former Pope Benedict in all of 2012.
 
The pope, who last week was named Time Magazine's Person of the Year, has drawn people to the Vatican because of his outgoing, simple and friendly style. Benedict was more reserved and far less spontaneous.
 
Francis has forsaken many of the trappings used by his predecessors.
 
He has given up the spacious papal apartments in the Apostolic Palace for a small apartment in a guest house and is driven in a regular car instead of the papal limousine.
 
Francis has also proven to be hugely popular because of his statements urging the Church to be closer to the poor and to be more merciful and less condemning.
 
The crowds at Francis' general audiences have often topped 100,000, forcing police to close off the main boulevard leading to the Vatican to accommodate more people.
 
The Vatican newspaper said Francis telephoned Benedict to exchange Christmas greetings. Benedict is living in a former convent on the Vatican grounds and has the title Pope Emeritus.
 
Tickets to audiences and all other papal events are issued for free by the Vatican's Prefecture of the Pontifical Household and usually distributed through parishes and Church institutions.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-drawing-crowds-four-times-larger-predecessor-174319595.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 18, 2013, 05:26:45 pm
Was just reading this - yeah, it's as if he just became an instant celebrity - don't remember this with the other Popes. Yeah, they were "popular" too, but not like this.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 19, 2013, 11:52:18 am
http://gma.yahoo.com/pope-francis-messenger-catholic-church-090624179--abc-news-topstories.html

Pope Francis, a New Messenger for the Catholic Church

By DAVID WRIGHT | Good Morning America – Wed, Dec 18, 2013 4:06 AM EST

Emphasizing forgiveness over judgment, and acceptance over orthodoxy, the 266th pope is decidedly different from his predecessors.

Pope Francis is a big-tent evangelist for the world’s largest Christian denomination, reaching out to the world in the blunt language of the street.

Eager to focus less on divisive social issues such as abortion, Francis describes his church as “a field hospital after a battle.”

“It is useless,” he told an interviewer, “to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol and about the level of his blood sugars! You have to heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else.”

That approach has huge implications for the millions of Catholics who feel that the church long ago turned its back on them.

When a reporter asked about the status of gay priests, Francis did not hesitate. “I have yet to find anyone who has a business card that says he is gay,” he said. “If someone is gay who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?”

A SHIFT IN TONE

It’s a change in tone, not doctrine. Francis has not softened the Church’s opposition to gay marriage. His church still believes gay sex is a sin. But by adopting a less scolding tone, he has used his bully pulpit to heal divisions rather than highlight them.

On some issues, the church is unlikely to budge. Don’t hold your breath the church will suddenly sanction birth control or abortion. Or that priests won’t have to be celibate or that women will be allowed to become priests.

But Francis has cracked open the door for dialogue.

THE HUMBLE MESSENGER

As the earthly successor to St. Peter, the pope is not just the spiritual leader of the world’s largest faith. He is also, according to Catholic tradition, the keeper of the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. That’s why the pope’s heraldic shield features pair of crossed keys beneath a papal crown.

Earlier this month, during a visit to a working-class parish in Rome, he disclosed that he used to be a bouncer. One more of many surprises that sets Pope Francis apart from his predecessors.

His immediate predecessor, Benedict XVI, was an aloof German theologian who appeared, at times, to struggle to connect with the wider world. Benedict’s papacy continued a decades-long restoration of orthodoxy, dialing back progressive reforms of the 1960’s, and his personal style reflected that. He favored the ancient pomp and flair -- bespoke slippers, custom-made perfume, and hats that would not be out of place in a Renaissance painting.

Pope Francis has a far more humble approach. His cassocks are plain white. He elected not to live in the ornate papal apartments, preferring instead the simple quarters of the Vatican guest house.

Humility is a big part of his ministry. On Holy Thursday, he washed the feet of 12 female prison inmates. On his first pilgrimage to Assisi, birthplace of his patron saint, he said the Church must strip itself of “vanity, arrogance, and pride.”

He is more approachable than any pope in recent memory, posing with tourists for pictures, embracing pilgrims on the rope line at general audiences, allowing a child to sit on his lap at a public mass.

There’s a pointed message here. For centuries, people have called the church hypocritical because it champions the poor from a perch of such opulence. Pope Francis said he believes the church should practice what it preaches.

“It hurts me when I see a priest or nun with the latest-model car,” he recently said.

The official papal car is now a used Ford Focus. Sticker price: $16,000.He owns a second car too, a 1984 Renault given to him by an Italian parish priest who dropped it off at the Vatican last summer. Appropriately the Renault is papal white.

A POINTED MESSAGE

He has captured the imaginations of believers and non-believers alike, giving the Church’s message of social justice far greater resonance.

Pope Francis has taken public views on income equality and “the idolatry of money” that could win votes at an Occupy Wall Street rally. He is easily the world’s foremost champion of the poor.

Last month he attacked trickle-down economics and “the widening gap between those who have more and those who must be content with the crumbs.” Conservative commentators in the U.S. greeted that message with a sharp intake of breath. Sarah Palin said he sounded “kind of liberal” and Rush Limbaugh called him a pure Marxist, insisting Francis is “dramatically, embarrassingly, puzzlingly wrong.”

Without addressing those critics by name, Francis responded he’s no Marxist. He defended his criticism of trickle-down economics is perfectly valid: ”There was the promise that once the glass had become full it would overflow and the poor would benefit. But what happens is that when it's full to the brim, the glass magically grows, and thus nothing ever comes out for the poor.”

That economic message is in keeping with the doctrines of John Paul II and Benedict XVI. But the messenger is decidedly different.

Recent polls suggest the world is listening. A recent ABC News/Washington Post survey found more than 90% of Catholics approve of his performance. So do 69% of Americans, regardless of faith.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 19, 2013, 06:47:39 pm
http://www.necn.com/12/12/13/Priest-Pope-Francis-has-changed-the-chur/landing.html?blockID=859691
12/12/13
Priest: Pope Francis has changed the church’s image, direction in a short time

(NECN)  - On Wednesday, it was announced that Pope Francis is being named Time Magazine’s Person of the Year.

Father James Brezke from the School of Theology and Ministry at Boston College talked about the impact the pope is having on the church and the world.

“I like it. I think he’s been a great leader, not only for the church but for the whole world, and then being a Jesuit is just an extra plus,” Father Brezke began. “In the short time that he’s been pope, I think that what he’s done more is change the image, direction, and restore a certain believability about the gospel message. And that’s a lot to do in just a couple of months.”

In addition, he spoke about how he believes the pope is trying to unite the world and the church, as well. He talked about how his Theology students and people in his parish are refreshed by the pope’s actions.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 20, 2013, 10:03:59 pm
 ??? Nonetheless, looks like they're following the same script we've seen since 1980...

http://arts.nationalpost.com/2013/12/20/newt-gingrich-compares-suspended-duck-dynasty-star-phil-robertson-to-pope-francis-video/
12/20/13
Duck Dynasty star ‘sounds like Pope Francis’: Newt Gingrich joins conservative army backing Phil Robertson

CNN pundit and former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich joined the growing chorus of supporters for suspended Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson on Thursday, comparing the duck-call mogul to Pope Francis on his show, Crossfire.

Robertson was suspended from the show by A&E after making anti-gay remarks to GQ magazine – but according to Gingrich, the comments were nothing short of “remarkable.”

“Ironically, if you read the whole interview, not just take one section, he talks very specifically about loving everybody,” Gingrich, a former Republican presidential candidate, said on Crossfire. “He talks very specifically about not being judgmental toward anybody, that’s God’s decision, not his. I mean, it is remarkable. There’s sections there where he sounds like Pope Francis.”

Gingrich conducted a panel discussion on his show Thursday night about the Duck Dynasty suspension alongside co-host Van Jones, Concerned Women for America head Penny Young Nance and sports commentator LZ Granderson, the latter of whom pointed took issue with Gingrich’s defense that the Duck Dynasty star was simply quoting the Bible (Corinthians, to be specific).

“The Bible has been used throughout history as a way to oppress the minority,” Granderson told Nance. “Wherever the majority is, they’ve always found the right verse — to justify slavery, to justify keeping women.”

Gingrich joins conservative pundit Sarah Palin in his defence of Robertson: The former Republican vice-presidential candidate had on Thursday said in a tweet that A&E’s decision to suspend the reality TV star was an attack on free speech.

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5:54 PM - 18 Dec 2013

Meanwhile, in a brief segment on The Daily Show, Jon Stewart attacked the pundits of Fox News for what he called hypocritical coverage of the Duck Dynasty controversy, comparing that network’s attack on the removal of the word “Christmas” from public discourse to their support of Robertson’s right to religious expression and freedom of speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK45axRXpZ4

A&E has not officially commented on its suspension of Robertson, who himself released a statement on Thursday saying his comments to GQ were in adherence to his Christian faith while pointing out that he “would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me.”

GLAAD issued its own statement in support of A&E’s ban on Wednesday, asking supporters of Robertson’s suspension to donate the cost of a duck call to the LGBT rights organization.

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not being judgmental toward anybody and never treat anyone with disrespect? Dunno about that...

1Corinthians 5:12  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.


James_2:1  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 23, 2013, 05:28:34 am
Pope Francis Condemns Racism And Declares That “All Religions Are True” At Historic Third Vatican Council

For the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in Vatican City, discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is undoubtedly the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962. Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.” While some traditionalists and conservative reactionaries on the far right have decried these efforts, they have delighted progressives around the world.
 
The Third Vatican Council concluded today with Pope Francis announcing that Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis declared.
 
In a speech that shocked many, the Pope claimed “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
 
One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria. “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”
 
In addition to the Pope’s sweeping calls for tolerance and a new progressive understanding of Catholicism, he condemned racism, raising his voice and pounding the podium in front of him. Pope Francis spent over an hour castigating anti-immigrant politicians, parties and individuals. Wagging his finger sternly with righteous indignation, the Pope shouted “Racism today is the ultimate evil in the world. When Italians, Spanish or French turn back the boats of African migrants seeking a better life, are they not like the inn keeper who told Mary and Joseph that there was no room for them and the infant Christ? These migrants are children of God and we are commanded to love them!”
 
His voice loudly echoing through St. Peter’s basilica, the Pope stated “those who would dare to turn immigrants away, be they legal or undocumented, turn their backs on Christ himself! A racist is not a true Christian. A racist casts aside his humanity to become a beast, a demon! He is the embodiment and personification of evil, a Satan!”
 
To a chorus of thunderous applause, Pope Francis stated “because Muslims, Hindus and African Animists are also made in the very likeness and image of God, to hate them is to hate God! To reject them to is to reject God and the Gospel of Christ. Whether we worship at a church, a synagogue, a mosque or a mandir, it does not matter. Whether we call God, Jesus, Adonai, Allah or Krishna, we all worship the same God of love. This truth is self-evident to all who have love and humility in their hearts!”
 
In a announcement that shocked many people, Pope Francis warned that “those who seek to deny a home to the migrant, to the African and the Muslim, risk their membership in the church. We will consider excommunication for those whose souls willingly dwell in the darkness and evil of intolerance and racism. Satan himself is a metaphor or a personification, for the collective evils of mankind. Today, these evils manifest foremost as racism, intolerance, religious persecution and bigotries of all kinds.”

A couple of prominent Catholic cardinals have responded to Pope Francis’ declarations by leaving the church. Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria asked, “what do we stand for if we declare that truth is relative? On the contrary, truth exists independently of our personal feelings. All of this talk of love and tolerance is hollow if we have no identity of our own, if we stand for nothing. I charge that Francis has become a heretic, and that he is not a valid Pope. Indeed, Francis is no longer even a Catholic. The seat of Saint Peter is vacant. I am now a Sedevacantist. I should have become one long ago. The Vatican has embraced ecumenism in the past, but worse than that, it has now embraced moral relativism on abortion and homosexuality. At the same time it is embracing moral absolutism in favour of illegal immigration and cultural genocide against Europe.”
 
In his most controversial statement, Cardinal Arinze said “Islam has overrun my own country, and now it threatens to overrun Europe. Some parts of Nigeria now live under Islamic Sharia law. Catholics there are no longer free to practice their faith publicly. Francis is a fool if he thinks that his liberal immigration policy will end well. He has betrayed western civilization. Vatican City will one day become a giant mosque if things continue in Europe along their present course. Those in the West who ignore this truth, do so at their own peril.”
 
In an angry and vitriolic rant revealing deep self-hating tendencies, the African Cardinal Arinze stated “There is nothing wrong with Europeans who want to protect their borders. The problem is that there is not enough border control and the immigration policies are far too lenient in Europe. Is it racist to desire to preserve one’s own home? Why is it racist to want to preserve your own culture and a future for your people and your children? Have white people gone stupid today?”
 
This much is clear, the Catholic Church has made a decision to rejoin humanity and to reject intolerance and extremism. The church has lost a few narrow-minded bigots, with reports of some small parishes and a few cardinals and bishops defecting, but Pope Francis has gained the friendship of the world. Pope Francis deserves praise for taking a humane stand in defence of human rights and against bigotry.

http://diversitychronicle.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/pope-francis-condemns-racism-and-declares-that-all-religions-are-true-at-historic-third-vatican-council/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on December 23, 2013, 05:35:51 am
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In a speech that shocked many, the Pope claimed “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there?

And this demon is the leader of the RCC? Wow, the pope doesn't even know what truth is!  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on December 23, 2013, 06:10:09 am
Could you elaborate again over what he said? I remember some of the things he said(how since 1985, they laid out the blueprint for the 3rd Temple and hoped to get it completed by 2010. And how when their New Age "Christ" appeared, they expected "disappearances" from those who didn't respond to their Maitreya figure). But don't remember everything else he said.

This is a small part of what it says:

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At the proper moment in history, the Pope will visit the combined Jewish/Christian/Moslem sector of Jerusalem to announce that all religions should be combined into one.

And in light of this:

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Pope Francis Condemns Racism And Declares That “All Religions Are True” At Historic Third Vatican Council

It seems that it's only a matter of time, now...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 23, 2013, 06:23:27 am
This is a small part of what it says:

And in light of this:

It seems that it's only a matter of time, now...

It is, with Europe now getting involved in the Israeli peace process, the Pope and the Catholic church showing their true colors, the way the world has turned its back on Israel and all the resent talk of building the Third temple, with all the crazy natural disasters going on around the world, YES!! it is very very soon


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 23, 2013, 09:38:52 am
 :o Catholics over at FOX News must have spinning heads now!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on December 23, 2013, 01:58:40 pm
Let's see what comes of this Vatican sideshow they call a council. They don't exactly have these things every year, so it would seem they might not have another one for several decades, so I would think this is the time for the RCC to make some major moves with this council.

Like with the Antichrist, the False Prophet has to make an appearance at some point to direct the attention to the AC. I'm only speculating, but it seems like the False Prophet would need to be a rather powerful figure in some respect in the world. The RCC pope definitely fits the mold.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 23, 2013, 02:06:04 pm
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they might not have another one for several decades

i dont think we have that long....  :) to much stuff happening all at the same time...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on December 23, 2013, 02:19:37 pm
Yeah, that's kinda my point. I too don't see things going too much longer, and I don't see the RCC having the opportunity for another council decades later. Not enough time left, unless they hold one suddenly in a few years or so, which is not impossible, as these days are some strange times, causing man to act in ways they haven't before.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on December 23, 2013, 08:21:00 pm
It is, with Europe now getting involved in the Israeli peace process, the Pope and the Catholic church showing their true colors, the way the world has turned its back on Israel and all the resent talk of building the Third temple, with all the crazy natural disasters going on around the world, YES!! it is very very soon

Yeah, it most certainly is. Another thing I've stumbled across on this site:

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“The Old City of Jerusalem will become a “special regime”. It will be an autonomous, self-governing entity. The Chief Administrator will have minimum reliance on the existing regimes and structures”.

This is a policy proposal from “Jerusalem Old City Initiative”. The proposal is a fruit of the “peace process”, and inter faith dialogues between Jews, Muslims, Catholics and claimed to be “Christians”.

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At the proper moment in history, the Pope will visit the combined Jewish/Christian/Moslem sector of Jerusalem to announce that all religions should be combined into one.

What an exciting time to live in!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 26, 2013, 08:28:17 pm
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-12-26/a-new-pope-s-more-liberal-sway-in-china?campaign_id=yhoo
12/26/13
A New Pope’s More Liberal Sway in China

Each year Cardinal John Tong Hon, the 74-year-old Catholic bishop of Hong Kong, records a brief videotaped Christmas message that fuses Catholic themes with local issues facing people in Hong Kong and mainland China. Recurrent themes include the sustaining power of families, the “virtues of sincerity, love and understanding,” and the need for affordable housing in the expensive and cramped city. Last year, Tong’s message focused on marriage: “In accord with Catholic teaching, we assert that marriage is a mutual self-giving and lifelong commitment between a man and a woman.”

This year, however, Cardinal Tong got a new, more progressive boss in Rome. Since assuming the papacy in March, Pope Francis has struck a different chord on gay rights. “If someone is gay, and he searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?” the new pontiff told reporters in July, a shift in rhetoric that inspired the Advocate, an American LGBT magazine, to name Pope Francis as its “Person of the Year.”

Cardinal Tong’s tone has shifted accordingly. In his 2013 Christmas address, Tong omitted any mention of church catechisms or assertions about who should marry. Instead, he emphasized compassion, rather than prescriptions or prohibitions. “I think intimate family relationships can strengthen our self-confidence and help us cherish our hope in life,” Tong said. “Even though life has its ups and downs, a close-knit family can be like a harbor in a storm.”

In November, Cardinal Joseph Zen, the emeritus bishop of Hong Kong, spoke to Vatican Insider about the impact of Pope Francis in greater China, where the PRC government maintains its own “Patriotic Catholic Association” without ties to the Vatican, but millions of ordinary Catholics still recognize the Pope’s authority. “In China, all those who can see him [Pope Francis] in some way, or can read about him somewhere, are really enthusiastic. They see a person who really wants to be close to the ordinary people, to the poor people,” said Cardinal Zen.

Another aspect of Cardinal Tong’s address this year also attracted attention in Hong Kong: “Our hope is that celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ will help us work together in building happy families and a free democratic society.” Thus far, Pope Francis has avoided making any explicit statements about the Chinese government or the Vatican’s long-standing rift with Beijing.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 27, 2013, 07:04:49 am
Atheists, Work With Us for Peace, Pope Says on Christmas

Pope Francis, celebrating his first Christmas as Roman Catholic leader, on Wednesday called on atheists to unite with believers of all religions and work for "a homemade peace" that can spread across the world.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2013/12/25/world/europe/25reuters-pope-christmas.html?_r=0


1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 27, 2013, 08:58:02 am
Not that I endorse the other Popes, but I don't recall Benedict nor John Paul II being THIS blatant and open.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 28, 2013, 02:13:05 pm
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/28/22083921-syrias-assad-sends-private-message-to-pope-francis-vatican-says?lite
12/28/13
Syria's Assad sends private message to Pope Francis, Vatican says

VATICAN CITY — Syrian President Bashar Assad has sent Pope Francis a private message, the Vatican said on Saturday, without disclosing its contents.

It was the first known time Assad has sent a direct message to the pontiff since the start of Syria's civil war in 2011. Pope Francis has made numerous appeals for an end to the conflict, the latest on Christmas Day.

Vatican sources said the message likely included the Syrian government's position ahead of peace talks due to start on January 22 under U.N. auspices in Geneva.

The Vatican, which has permanent observer status at the United Nations, also has a representative to U.N. organizations in Geneva.

The Vatican said a delegation headed by Joseph Sweid, a Syrian minister of state, held talks in the Vatican with the pope's secretary of state, Archbishop Pietro Parolin and his foreign minister, Archbishop Dominique Mamberti.

"The delegation brought a message from President Assad for the Holy Father and illustrated the position of the Syrian government," a statement said.

Syria's civil war between forces loyal to Assad and mostly Sunni Muslim rebels fighting to topple him has killed more than 100,000 people since March 2011.

The Vatican is also keen to have information on the fate of Father Paolo Dall'Oglio, a Jesuit priest who supported the rebels and disappeared in July in eastern Syria.

Francis has taken a personal interest in the Syrian conflict.

In September he led a worldwide day of prayer for peace in the country and sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was hosting the G20 summit, telling world powers that any military solution in Syria would be a "futile pursuit."

Putin was opposed to U.S. President Barack Obama's plan to use air strikes to punish Assad for a chemical weapons attack which the West blamed on the Syrian government.

Assad's government denied it was responsible and the air strikes never took place following Syria's agreement to dismantle it chemical weapons.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 29, 2013, 08:29:01 am
Could Pope Francis Be a Modern-Day Jesus? [video]

Could Pope Francis be a modern-day Jesus? Francis delivered the traditional “Urbi et Orbi” speech, which in Latin is interpreted as “to the city and to the world,” offering a message of hope and love for a better world. His Christmas wish included a prayer for Christians under attack, trafficked children, battered women, peace in Africa and the Middle East and more.
 
The pope’s speech was delivered from the central balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica. Francis spoke a message of love, hope and peace to a cheering crowd of at least 70,000 Romans, pilgrims and tourists. In this speech, which was the pope’s first Christmas message since being elected pontiff, he said he was joining all who are hoping for a better world and cares for others.
 
The 77-year-old pope is seeking to connect the world in a place of peace and non-violence. Jesus also preached a message of hope to a dying world but it often seems that Christians would rather focus on areas of division instead of celebrating the things which push for unity. People who are mature and secure often conclude it’s better to agree to disagree rather than fall out.
 
The pope has often been criticized for his message of inclusion which seeks to offer love instead of judgment and peace instead of a sword. Jesus suffered much of the same persecution; he sought to unify as oppose to the harsh division that existed before his arrival.
 
The Argentine pope solicited a moment of silent prayer for Christians who are subjected to any type of violence and have been accused unjustly. Francis said that Christians are being persecuted, not only in countries that don’t allow full religious freedom, but also in places where religious freedom and human rights are “supposedly” protected.
 
Even though the pope didn’t go into details outlining the countries he referenced it has become common knowledge that the Vatican has made multiple attempts to persuade Saudi Arabia, one of Islam’s holiest places, to release the ban that forbids Christians to worship in public.
 
This year alone there have been multiple incidents of attacks and intolerance against minority Christians in places such as Nigeria, Indonesia, Egypt, Iraq and Sudan; along with other countries where the law guarantees their rights of religious freedom.
 
Pope Francis, in the spirit of Jesus Christ, said in a world that is civilized, injustice must be eliminated and denounced. He prayed that this Christmas season would allow an experience of faith and love that shines worldwide.
 
This is a day where those who state that Christmas is about Jesus shoot down anyone that says Happy Holidays, claiming that they are trying to erase Jesus from his observed birthday. Wouldn’t the message of Jesus include a wish for a happy holiday season? Pope Francis seeks to bring a world divided by religion together by the practice of love and relationship.
 
Francis prayed, “Lord of life, protect all who are persecuted in your name.” He asked God to bless the land where he chose to enter into the world and grant an outcome to the peace talks between Palestinians and Israelis that is favorable.
 
To eliminate any confusion the pope took time to explain what peace means to him. He said:
 

“…True peace is not focused on the balance of opposing forces. It’s not a lovely front which seeks to cover division or conflicts. True peace calls for daily commitment.”
 
The pope prayed for people everywhere who are struggling for a better life. He asked that refugees receive assistance, hope and consolation. In the spirit of Christ, Pope Francis praying for children who are too often the most vulnerable victims of war and for battered women as well as the elderly.
 
In a world where many of today’s clergy seek to tear down anyone or religion that doesn’t line up completely with what they believe, the Pope is sweeping through the world like a breath of fresh air. Francis has chosen not to waste time with different persuasions of belief or religions; instead he focuses on what’s most important in the world: a message of love, hope and peace.
 
Religion is one of the biggest hindrances to a relationship with God. Religion is celebrated by works where relationship is honored by love. No ceremony, sacrament, liturgy creed or amount of money can cause anyone to be reconciled into relationship with God.
 
Giving up drugs, smoking, alcohol or premarital sex are all healthy choices to make but these things alone won’t restore a broken relationship with God nor do they convince God that one individual is better than another. These things support religion but they don’t make anyone a better candidate for the love of God.
 
While the fallen nature of mankind loves religion, since it bolsters the ego and boots one’s self esteem, Jesus came to bring the gift of relationship which includes a message of love, hope and peace; much like Pope Francis.
 
Pope Francis may not be a modern-day Jesus but many believe he is the embodiment of the true message of Christ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsFh_zTsNWw&feature=player_embedded

http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/could-pope-francis-be-a-modern-day-jesus-video/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 29, 2013, 09:25:21 am
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/this-week-game-changer-pope-francis-is-the-worlds-parish-priest/
‘This Week’ Game Changer Pope Francis is the ‘World’s Parish Priest’
12/29/13

Pope Francis became the leader of the Catholic Church in March, bringing to the Vatican a series of firsts: the first pope to choose St. Francis as a namesake, the first Latin American pope, and the first Jesuit pope.

His conversational first words from St. Peter’s balcony asked the people to pray for him ­­ a humble greeting that captured many hearts. The messages he has spread since then — those of tolerance, equality, and humanitarianism — make him a “This Week” game changer for 2013.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York explained “The Francis effect” in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.

“This pope has successfully, finally shattered the caricature of the church that his predecessors have tried hard to do. What’s that caricature? That the church is kind of mean and dour and always saying no and always telling us what we can’t do and always telling us why we should be excluded,” Cardinal Dolan said. “He’s saying ‘Oh no, come on in, the church is about warmth and tenderness.’”

**The Emergent Church put out this same propaganda, FYI.

Pope Francis’ efforts are clearly working. In a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll, 92 percent of American Catholics have a favorable opinion of the new pope, and 85 percent think he is moving the church in the right direction.

Cardinal Dolan said he knew Pope Francis would make positive change, but said the extent of his impact has been a pleasant surprise.

“What we were after was a good pastor with a track record of solid administration, fatherly warmth, tender care for his sheep, for his people, and boy, we got that on steroids with Pope Francis. He’s the world’s parish priest,” Dolan said.

Pope Francis is a star among both the young and the old, speaking out in new ways that excite believers and nonbelievers alike. Though he holds to the church doctrine, he strives to downplay what he calls the church’s obsession with social issues. Pope Francis has made headlines for saying that atheists can go to heaven and when asked about homosexuality, responded, “Who am I to judge?”

“The teaching of the church is a timeless gift, you can’t change it, it’s ours, we inherit it, we’re given it, but the way we gift wrap it, the way we make it more attractive, and more compelling to the world, that can always change, and that’s what Francis is saying,” Dolan said.

In Pope Francis’ first exhortation outlining his vision for the church, he took a critical stance against capitalism, denouncing society’s “idolatry of money” and an economy that kills.

“There’s only one God and money ain’t it,” Dolan agreed.

Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, the new head of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, reinforced that Pope Francis is serious about Catholicism’s sacred tradition.

“He is giving us a new zeal, he’s giving us new expressions and a new method,” Kurtz said. “He is saying the same time-honored, beautiful message of Christ, but in a way that’s really touching hearts.”

But not everyone is touched. Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh said the pope’s recent criticisms of capitalism sound like “pure Marxism.”

Time Magazine, however, is not in the camp of pope criticizers, with the magazine recognizing Pope Francis’ widespread impact by naming him 2013′s Person of the Year. And the pope’s understated reaction? Most would say it was fitting.

“He doesn’t want to be the center of attention. He wants others to be the center,” Archbishop Kurtz said. “Gosh, that’s a great Francis effect, isn’t it?”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 01, 2014, 10:36:27 am
http://news.yahoo.com/stop-wars-pope-says-appeal-125415104.html
Stop the wars, pope says in New Year appeal
1/1/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis made an impassioned New Year's peace address on Wednesday, saying the heart of humanity seemed to have gone astray and too many people were still indifferent to war, violence and injustice.

The pontiff, who took his papal name from St Francis of Assisi, the saint most associated with peace, urged the world to listen to the "cry for peace" from suffering peoples.

"What on earth is happening in the hearts of men? What on earth is happening in the heart of humanity?" he said to tens of thousands of people in St Peter's Square on the day the Roman Catholic Church celebrates its World Day of Peace.

"It's time to stop!" he said, departing from his prepared text.

Francis was speaking from the window of the Apostolic Palace overlooking St. Peter's Square that popes traditionally use for their addresses.

Unlike his predecessors, Francis has not used the spacious apartment behind the window since his election in March, shunning pomp and preferring instead to live in small quarters in a Vatican guest house.

"Everyone must be committed to building a society that is truly just and caring," he told the crowd on Wednesday, acknowledging the many peace banners and blue balloons held aloft.

In a message for the World Day of Peace sent to world leaders last month, Francis said that huge salaries and bonuses were symptoms of an economy based on greed and inequality

In that letter, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina again urged nations to narrow the gap between rich and poor, more and more of whom were getting only "crumbs".

Francis, named Person of the Year by Time magazine and a number of other publications, has urged his own Church to set an example by being more fair and frugal and less pompous, and to get closer to the poor and afflicted.

The new year is expected to bring concrete changes to the Vatican, plagued by a series of mishaps and scandals under Pope Benedict XVI, who in February became the first pontiff to resign in 600 years.

Francis has appointed a committee of eight cardinals from around the world to advise him on how to reform the central Vatican administration.

He has also named commissions to advise him on what to do with the scandal-plagued Vatican bank, on transparency in other parts of Vatican finance and on how to deal with the Church's many sexual abuse scandals.

Vatican officials expect changes to start taking shape in late February, when his council of advisors has a pivotal meeting in the Vatican.

On February 22, Francis will name his first batch of cardinals to join the exclusive group that will one day choose his successor.

The names of the new cardinals are expected to be disclosed sometime in late January, and will offer another indication of the type of humbler Church that Francis wants.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 01, 2014, 10:43:26 am
http://news.yahoo.com/stop-wars-pope-says-appeal-125415104.html
Stop the wars, pope says in New Year appeal
1/1/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis made an impassioned New Year's peace address on Wednesday, saying the heart of humanity seemed to have gone astray and too many people were still indifferent to war, violence and injustice.

The pontiff, who took his papal name from St Francis of Assisi, the saint most associated with peace, urged the world to listen to the "cry for peace" from suffering peoples.

"What on earth is happening in the hearts of men? What on earth is happening in the heart of humanity?" he said to tens of thousands of people in St Peter's Square on the day the Roman Catholic Church celebrates its World Day of Peace.

"It's time to stop!" he said, departing from his prepared text.



Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 01, 2014, 11:11:23 am
Was listening to the first 3 parts of Scott's latest audio - he quoted some Illuminati figure who said we're "10 years behind schedule"(para).

I'm no prophet, but dunno about that - if this "Illuminati figure" had stepped into any of these Babel church buildings nowdays, he'll likely change his mind in a heartbeat. Yeah, even he'll be shocked over all of the demonic "Christian" Rock music that has been accepted by Churchianity, and not to mention too the latest false bible versions are nothing but New Age mumbo jumbo(ie-New Century Version, TNIV, The Message are just that - no, not saying the NIV is any better, but just saying how worse badly watered down they are now compared to before).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 02, 2014, 04:39:14 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/francis-drew-6-6-million-vatican-2013-three-141317582.html
Francis drew 6.6 million to Vatican in 2013, three times Benedict
1/2/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - More than 6.6 million people attended events with Pope Francis at the Vatican from his election in March to the end of 2013, figures released on Thursday showed, compared to 2.3 million for former Pope Benedict in all of 2012.

The Vatican said the figures were based on the number of tickets issued for papal events where they are needed, such as general audiences, Masses and private audiences.

They were also based on estimates of the number of people at events where tickets are not needed, such as his weekly appearance from a window overlooking St. Peter's Square.

The Vatican did not issue comparative figures on Thursday but figures released on January 4, 2013 showed that some 2.3 million people attended all events presided by Benedict in 2012.

Benedict, citing health reasons, resigned on February 28, 2013, becoming the first pope in 600 years to do so rather than ruling for life. He is now known as Pope Emeritus.

Figures released last month which were limited to the number of people who attended weekly general audiences showed that Francis had drawn around four times as many people in about 9 and a half months of 2013 than Benedict had in all of 2012. Francis was elected on March 13, 2013.

Francis, who last month was named Person of the Year by Time Magazine, has drawn people to the Vatican because of his outgoing, simple and friendly style. Benedict was more reserved and far less spontaneous.

The first non-European pope in 1,300 years, he took over an institution rocked by sex abuse and other scandals, and losing faithful to other religions.

Reinvigorating the church, he has forsaken many of the trappings used by his predecessors. He gave up the spacious papal apartments in the Apostolic Palace for a small apartment in a guest house and is driven in a regular car instead of the papal limousine.

Francis has also proven to be popular because of his statements urging the Church to be closer to the poor and to be more merciful and less condemning.

The Vatican said the figures released on Thursday did not include the crowds that turned out to see the pope during his trips to Brazil, and to Assisi and Lampedusa in Italy.

More than 3 million people attended the pope's final event of the Brazil trip on Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro on July 28
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The crowds at Francis' general audiences and Sunday addresses have often topped 100,000, forcing police to close off the boulevard leading to the Vatican to accommodate more people.

Tickets to audiences and Masses are issued for free by the Vatican's Prefecture of the Pontifical Household and usually distributed through parishes and Church institutions.

(Reporting By Philip Pullella; Editing by Angus MacSwan)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 05, 2014, 12:28:28 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-celebrates-sainthood-pierre-favre-inspirational-jesuit-174136297.html
Pope celebrates sainthood of Pierre Favre, inspirational Jesuit
1/3/14

Rome (AFP) - Pope Francis held a mass on Friday to celebrate the sainthood of Pierre Favre, an early Jesuit priest the pontiff has said particularly inspired him.

Favre, also known as Peter Faber, was declared a saint by Francis on December 17, the pope's 77th birthday, in an accelerated procedure which bypassed Vatican tradition and the canonisation ceremony, and without the confirmation of a performed miracle.

In his homily, the pontiff called on Jesuits to follow Favre in his "desire to change the world".

"Favre was utterly centred in God, and because of that he could go -- obediently, and often on foot -- all over Europe, to speak to all with sweetness, and announce the gospel," he said.

Favre, who lived from 1506 to 1546, was the first recruit of Jesuit founder St Ignatius Loyola.

A shepherd during his boyhood years, he later travelled to Paris to study, where he met Ignatius and another future Jesuit, Francis Xavier, both of whom had a huge influence on him spiritually.

He was ordained as a priest in 1534, and served across Europe, walking huge distances between religious postings in Germany, Spain and Portugal.

He was reportedly welcomed by his enemies as much as his friends.

His remains are buried at the Church of the Gesu, the principle Jesuit church in Rome, where Friday's ceremony was held.

In an interview with the Jesuit journal La Civilta Cattolica last year, Francis praised the priest's ability to "dialogue with all, even the most remote and even with his opponents".

He said he admired Favre's "simple piety, a certain naivety perhaps. His being available straightaway, his careful interior discernment, the fact that he was a man capable of great and strong decisions but also capable of being so gentle and loving."

The pontiff entered Favre into the "catalogue of saints" through the rarely used "equivalent canonisation" process, whereby popes can declare universal veneration for someone who has enjoyed widespread reverence over a long period of time.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 05, 2014, 07:38:16 am
Pope to Travel to Holy Land This May

Pope Francis announced Sunday that he would travel to Israel, the West Bank and Jordan on May 24-26, his first visit to the Holy Land and one that comes amid a new U.S.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-travel-holy-land-24-26-21425167


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 05, 2014, 07:47:39 am
New pope goes ‘old school’

So, Pope Francis is making some wealthy Catholics uncomfortable?
 
Excellent.
 
I don’t know how this guy got past a college of cardinals stacked by his two reactionary predecessors. Maybe they thought he was different from the man he’s revealed himself to be. Maybe they finally saw a church in crisis, and a dire need for radical change.

Either way, Francis feels like a bit of a miracle from where this lapsed Catholic sits. In focusing almost solely on our obligations to the poor and powerless, and actually living what he preaches, he conjures the church of my childhood. Its doors flung open by Vatican II, that Catholic church — and those of us who belonged to it — existed to make the world more just.

What joy it was to read his November comments calling trickle-down economics the illusion it is, and speaking of a “deified market” which devours all that stands in the way of profits, including the environment. It’s just the kind of thing that ultimate revolutionary Jesus — remember that camels and needles thing?— might have said if he walked the earth today. The fact that the rising tide has lifted a few boats and capsized most others isn’t exactly news. But hearing the pope say it — in such pointed terms — is a very big deal.

Of course, not everybody is thrilled. From Home Depot founder Ken Langone comes the news that rich Catholic donors like him are balking at the pope’s call for economic justice.
 
Boo hoo. More whining from poor, persecuted, richer-than-actual-God job-creators. What Francis is preaching is the guts of the faith. The church hierarchy — and most of the rest of us, Catholic or not — lost sight of those values over the last generation. If Francis is making some people uncomfortable about that, then bless him. That’s his job.

And plenty of prominent Catholics of means around here get that.
 
“He’s not making me uncomfortable,” says Jack Connors, the advertising and health care magnate. “He’s making me proud.” Like so many of us, Connors is amazed at the Argentinian Jesuit’s ascension.
 
“What he is really saying is, ‘Come on, let’s play fair here,’ ” Connors says, “that maybe we’re not as concerned and as charitable a world or a nation as we pretend to be. That’s leadership.” Francis’s jarring humility, his willingness to embrace those who might repulse others, is “old school,” Connors says. “That is why we signed up for this religion. That is why I go to Mass three or four times a week.”
 
Construction titan John Fish, vice chairman of the board at Boston College, believes Francis’s installment is “the most important event in the Catholic Church of the past 100 years, and maybe beyond.”
 
“His message is sorely needed,” Fish continues. “He’s saying we need to talk less about the pelvis, and more about the kindness of people . . . That is a breath of fresh air . . . This isn’t about rich or poor, it’s about how we instill a sense of kindness.”
 
Developer Thomas N. O’Brien says nobody should be surprised at Francis’s rhetoric. “It may sound revolutionary to people, but to me it sounds very logical and pretty appropriate for our pope to say that.” He hears a challenge in Francis’s words: “Here are the specific things Jesus said, and you should reflect on whether you’re living up to those ideas.” O’Brien says he and his wife ask themselves every day if they’ve done enough, and many times, they come up short.
 
“It’s pretty powerful and humbling — and scary, frankly,” O’Brien says.
 
We could use more of that kind of fear. There are so many other things I want to see from this pope: A real reckoning for clergy sexual abuse, an embrace of women at every level of the church, a further acceptance of gays and lesbians. But what a start, making men like Langone and his friends uncomfortable. To those of us who have longed for the church of our remembering, their whiny chorus is like a heavenly choir.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/05/new-pope-goes-old-school/5AWpDiMubDIO75v8O5w3JJ/story.html

The Catholic church is itself a wealthy institution. More richer than virtually EVERY country on the planet. Just saying...  :o

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What joy it was to read his November comments calling trickle-down economics the illusion it is, and speaking of a “deified market” which devours all that stands in the way of profits, including the environment. It’s just the kind of thing that ultimate revolutionary Jesus — remember that camels and needles thing?

Luk 18:22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
Luk 18:23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
Luk 18:24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

I think the Lord still says that... Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 06, 2014, 09:03:32 am
Look how craftily Frankie uses his words...

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-calls-fresh-church-approach-children-gay-parents-192102096.html
Pope calls for fresh Church approach to children of gay parents
1/4/14

Rome (AFP) - Pope Francis has called for a rethink in the way the Catholic Church deals with the children of gay couples and divorced parents, warning against "administering a vaccine against faith".

"On an educational level, gay unions raise challenges for us today which for us are sometimes difficult to understand," Francis said in a speech to the Catholic Union of Superiors General in November, extracts of which were published on Italian media websites on Saturday.

"The number of children in schools whose parents have separated is very high," he said, adding that family make-ups were also changing.

"I remember a case in which a sad little girl confessed to her teacher: 'my mother's girlfriend doesn't love me'," he was quoted as saying.

The pontiff said educational leaders should ask themselves "how can we proclaim Christ to a generation that is changing?"

"We must be careful not to administer a vaccine against faith to them," the 77-year-old added.

Though the Church has often been in conflict with the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community over its opposition to same-sex marriage and to homosexuality, Francis has drawn praise for attempts to be inclusive.

In July he reached out to gays, declaring that "if someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"

And in December, the Advocate magazine -- dedicated to the gay and lesbian community -- chose the head of the Catholic Church as the "single most influential person of 2013 on the lives of LGBT people."

The reform-minded pontiff has also called an extraordinary assembly of the Synod of Bishops next year to discuss the Church's position with regard to the family, which is expected to address among other issues the problem of divorcees remarrying and children of divorced parents.

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Uhm...Frankie forgot about this...

Matthew 5:32  But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Proverbs_20:11  Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.
 
Pro_22:6  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Pro_22:15  Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Pro_23:13  Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 07, 2014, 11:18:30 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-set-name-cardinals-reflect-vision-church-134436594--finance.html
Pope set to name cardinals to reflect his vision of the Church
1/7/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis is set to make the most important decisions of his young papacy in the next few weeks by naming new cardinals - the "princes of the Church" who will help him set its future course and one day elect his successor from their number.

A pope's choice of cardinals is one of the clearest signals of the direction in which he wants the 1.2 billion-strong Roman Catholic Church to go, and what type of man he wants to succeed him.

Francis immediately set about changing the Vatican's image with his simple style after his election last March, so his choice of clerics to elevate on February 22 is more eagerly awaited than usual.

He is expected to reveal his choices before the end of January so that preparations for the ceremonial "consistory" can be made, but so far there have been few if any whispers of likely names.

In the past, it was a fairly safe bet that archbishops of big dioceses or those heading Vatican departments traditionally headed by cardinals would get the three-peaked "biretta", the red ceremonial hat that cardinals wear.

But Francis, who renounced the spacious papal suite for a modest apartment in a Vatican guest house, and is driven around in a simple Ford Focus instead of a bulletproof Mercedes limousine, has shown little regard for precedent or tradition.

"He will feel very free to choose the people he thinks should be in those positions, regardless of what was done before," said Father Antonio Spadaro, the editor of the Jesuit journal Civilta Cattolica who interviewed the pope last summer.

"Certainly it will help us further understand where he wants the Church to go."

BENDING THE RULES

There are currently 14 vacancies in the College of Cardinals for "cardinal electors": those who would be allowed to enter a conclave to elect a pope.

Church rules in theory limit the number of "cardinal electors" to 120. But Francis can decide to bend or even abolish the rule.

In any case, 10 cardinals who are now electors will turn 80 during 2014, so Francis could appoint as many as 24 new cardinal electors and still have their number back to 120 by the end of the year.

Apart from potentially shifting the liberal-conservative balance of the College, and elevating men whose personal abilities he values, Francis could also alter its geographical distribution.

In the conclave that elected Francis last March, 60 cardinals were from Europe, even though the Church on the continent has been hardest hit by falling membership. Italy alone had 28.

By comparison, there were only 19 cardinals from all of Latin America, a region with the largest Catholic populations, and 11 and 10 respectively from Africa and Asia, where the Church is growing fast.

Francis, previously archbishop of Buenos Aires, is the first Latin American pope in history and the first non-European in 1,600 years.

Apart from naming new cardinal electors under 80, Francis is also expected to give the honorific title to a number of elderly churchmen in gratitude for decades of service. They are usually theologians or academics, and would not be eligible to enter a conclave.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 07, 2014, 06:36:40 pm
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/06/what-pope-francis-can-teach-the-gop.html

What Pope Francis Can Teach the GOP
1/6/14

With his softer message on gay and divorced families, the pope has figured out what the Republicans haven’t grasped—you’ve got to tone it down if you want to keep a modern flock.

When the Catholic Church eclipses the Republican Party on social policy, it’s time to start looking skyward for frogs.  Yesterday, when the Vatican released the pope's latest statement offering a softer tone toward the gay community than pontiffs in the past, it suggested that the Catholic Church may have figured out what the Republican Party hasn’t yet grasped—that the fading of the institution’s flock can only truly be addressed by reversing some of the fading norms driving the flock from the fold. 

And so you have, just to pick one example, failed Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli saying about gay rights, “I cannot support something that I believe brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.” Versus Pope Francis saying, “If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"

Now Pope Francis has gone a step further, expressing compassion for gay families as well as families of divorce, both of which are perennial Republican targets in their puritanical and antiquated push for conservative morality.  “How can we proclaim Christ to a generation that is changing?” the pope reportedly said.  “We must be careful not to administer a vaccine against faith to them.”  Or voting!  Step aside, Reince Priebus.  The pope’s words offer some wisdom for the sagging and outdated GOP.

It’s not as if I’m comparing the rhetoric of Republican Party to a liberal, feminist knitting circle.  This is the Catholic Church, which still expressly believes that having gay sex is as sinful as contraception and abortion.  And yet in recent years, the Catholic Church has been more forward-thinking than the Republican Party (and at times, even the Democratic Party) on issues of economic justice, immigration and the death penalty.  Plus, while it wasn’t until losing the 2012 elections that the Republican Party proclaimed it was time for an “autopsy” to improve the party’s appeal to women, young people and voters of color, the Catholic Church has been actively outreaching to Latino communities since the Spanish colonization of the Americas!

To be clear, I’m not exactly praising the Catholic Church nor Pope Francis for social liberalism.  The pope has said, “The teaching of the church” on issues of abortion, gay marriage and contraception “is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.”  And indeed the Church remains dangerously out of touch with the modern lives and needs of its flock, whether the upwards of 90 percent of Catholic women in the United States who use birth control or the 62 percent of American Catholics who support marriage equality.  Still, what’s fascinating is that the Republican Party and social conservatives in general continue to wave the banner of backwards social norms despite all the self-marginalizing and self-destructive pragmatic reasons not to, while here the very arbiter of those social norms—who obviously has more reason to proselytize that morality than any political party—is recognizing the need to, at the very least, tone it down.

Certainly not all Republican political leaders fall into the offensive and out-of-date category with respect to social issues.  Despite the massive rightward shift of the party in the last few years, there remain some social moderates who believe that women should make decisions about their own bodies based on consultations with their doctors, not tyrannical laws.  And more Republican figures are coming out in support of marriage equality every day.  Yet when conservative leaders flock to defend the ugly racist and homophobic remarks of Phil Richardson or try and dismantle Obamacare based on contraception mandates, they reveal how woefully disconnected conservative leadership is from not only the majority of Americans but the majority of Republican voters.  The pope seems to realize that being so woefully out of touch, or at least foregrounding such out-of-touch stances, will only lead to emptier pews.  In the political realm, it only leads to more Democrats.   

As a secular Jew, I don’t know much about Catholic doctrine but I do know a ton about irony.  Whether out of institutional self-preservation or a true moral searching, Pope Francis appears to be trying to project a warm and welcoming rhetoric that is often undermined by the Church’s judgmental and exclusionary beliefs.  But the irony is that the centuries-old Catholic Church is even trying, which is more than can be said for the supposedly modern GOP.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 07, 2014, 06:45:36 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/lawmakers-enlist-powerful-new-wage-and-wealth-gap-warrior---the-pope-181146316.html
Lawmakers enlist powerful new wage and wealth gap warrior - the Pope
1/7/14

"Let us leave a spare place at our table: a place for those who lack the basics, who are alone.”  - Pope Francis via Twitter January 7, 2014   

In three short phrases, Pope Francis has once again taken the lead in advocating for economic justice and fairness. Where not long ago a battle raged over the growing and disproportionate wealth of the so-called “one percent,” the new 77-year old leader of the Catholic church has gained more support in nine months than the Occupy Wall Street movement or Fast Food Forward have in five years.

This new found papal popularity is not going unnoticed, especially in Washington, where  lawmakers - particularly Democrats - are eager to find fresh support for their core causes but also to counter their own lofty disapproval ratings. As my colleague Jeff Macke and I discuss in the attached video, the politicization of the Pope is real and cannot be ignored

“It is not a surprise that the left and the right are now seeking openly to affiliate with this Pope,” Macke says, fresh from his own eye-opening trip to the Vatican. 

In fact, a recent New York Times article quotes Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders as saying “We have a strong ally on our side,” in reference to a raft of policy efforts in the works that coincide with the writings and teachings Pope Francis espouses.

Of course, his Holiness has numerous advantages over his elected counterparts when it comes to addressing issues such as income inequality or raising the minimum wage.   Some would argue that as a foreign head of state representing a billion people (90% of which are not American), the Pope should not intercede in the U.S. political process. And yet, when the Pope includes the following four sub-titles in his most recent Exhortation, few dared to criticize his stance:

No to an economy of exclusion
No to the idolatry of money
No to a financial system that rules rather than serves
No to the inequality which spawns violence


Even mainstream theories have been addressed in his short Papacy where he blasts “trickle-down economics” as being a factually unconfirmed belief. “This opinion,” the Pope writes, “expresses a crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power,” adding that “the excluded are still waiting.”

It’s important to note that all of this is happening at the exact time that the country is being forced to reconcile the fact that the original “War on Poverty” declared by President Johnson in 1964, is turning fifty, but that there’s still a lot more work to do. The White House has already tagged job creation and better wages as key areas of focus for the mid-term, and will surely give both prominent play in the upcoming State of the Union address.

To be sure, Time magazine’s “Man of the Year” is clearly popular and politicians of all persuasions are as eager to side with him as they are reluctant to stand against him, but it has yet to be seen if his message results in any actual legislative action.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 08, 2014, 07:54:59 am
Pope Francis condemns fundamentalism, urges setting an example over proselytizing

Pope Francis recently urged the faithful to understand reality by looking at it “from the periphery” in order to avoid becoming fundamentalists.
 
Francis meet with 120 superiors general of men’s religious orders at the Vatican in November. His comments were published Friday by La Civiltà Cattolica, a Rome-based Jesuit weekly.
 
“I am convinced of one thing: the great changes in history were realized when reality was seen not from the center but rather from the periphery,” the pope said.

To look at something from the periphery, the pope explained, meant analyzing reality through a variety of viewpoints, rather than filtering all experience through a centralized ideology.
 
“It is not a good strategy to be at the center of a sphere,” he said. “To understand we ought to move around, to see reality from various viewpoints. We ought to get used to thinking.”

“I often refer to a letter of Father Pedro Arrupe, who had been General of the Society of Jesus,” the pope continued. “It was a letter directed to the Centros de Investigación y Acción Social (CIAS). In this letter Father Arrupe spoke of poverty and said that some time of real contact with the poor is necessary.”

“This is really very important to me: the need to become acquainted with reality by experience, to spend time walking on the periphery in order really to become acquainted with the reality and life – experiences of people. If this does not happen we then run the risk of being abstract ideologists or fundamentalists, which is not healthy.”
 
La Civilità Cattolica noted that Francis expressed similar sentiments in his Evangelii guadium regarding globalization.

The world needs to move towards unity without embracing centralism and crushing individualism, he wrote in the document, which was published in November.

“Here our model is not the sphere, which is no greater than its parts, where every point is equidistant from the centre, and there are no differences between them. Instead, it is the polyhedron, which reflects the convergence of all its parts, each of which preserves its distinctiveness.”
 
Francis also encouraged the leaders of men’s religious orders to “wake up the world.” He said the Church should grow through “attraction” rather than proselytization.

“Be witnesses of a different way of doing things, of acting, of living! It is possible to live differently in this world,” he said.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/03/pope-francis-condemns-fundamentalism-urges-setting-an-example-over-proselytizing/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 08, 2014, 11:51:37 am
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To look at something from the periphery, the pope explained, meant analyzing reality through a variety of viewpoints, rather than filtering all experience through a centralized ideology.
 
“It is not a good strategy to be at the center of a sphere,” he said. “To understand we ought to move around, to see reality from various viewpoints. We ought to get used to thinking.”


And that's pretty much what I hear when the modern-day, organized "church" system justifies these false perverted bible versions - they say how we can't be narrow and should embrace other "viewpoints" by reading these other "bibles".

Hhhhmmm...scripture says otherwise...

Matthew 7:13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


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Francis also encouraged the leaders of men’s religious orders to “wake up the world.” He said the Church should grow through “attraction” rather than proselytization.

And the modern-day, organized "church" system is doing just that now - bringing in entertainment like CCM, New Age theology, Orange Julius shops, etc into their buildings so they can grow through "attraction".


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 08, 2014, 10:12:39 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/10559802/Liberation-Theology-is-back-as-Pope-Francis-holds-capitalism-to-account.html
Liberation Theology is back as Pope Francis holds capitalism to account

Amid accusations of Marxism, Pope Francis has turned the Vatican into the spearhead of radical economic thinking

1/8/14

Unfettered global capitalism has met its match at last. Ever since Bishop Bergoglio picked St Francis of Assisi to be his guiding inspiration and lead a "church for the poor", all his actions have been in the same direction.

Liberation Theology is taking over the Vatican a quarter of a century after Jean-Paul II systematically sought to stamp out the "singular heresy" in the radical parishes and dioceses of Latin America, a task carried out with dutiful efficiency by Cardinal Ratzinger at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The "preferential option for the poor" is back. The doctrine that so inflamed controversy in the 1970s and 1980, famously wedded to Nicaragua's Sandinista cause, now has a Papal imprimatur. It is close to becoming official doctrine for the world's 1.2bn Roman Catholics under "Evangilii Gaudium", the Pope's first apostolic exhortation. This will have consequences.

"While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by the happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies that defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation," Pope Francis says.

The conservative power of the Papal Curia is being broken. All of a sudden the Vatican is the spearhead of radical economic thinking. The best-known of the Pope's newly-minted Council of Cardinals is none other than Archbishop Reinhard Marx, the firebrand "Rote Kardinal" of Munich and author of Das Kapital: A Plea for Man.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 12, 2014, 03:41:05 pm
http://news.msn.com/world/pope-names-19-new-cardinals-focusing-on-the-poor
Pope names 19 new cardinals, focusing on the poor
1/12/14

Most of the appointees announced by Pope Francis on Sunday are younger than 80, meaning they are eligible to elect the next pope.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis on Sunday named his first batch of cardinals, choosing 19 men from Asia, Africa, and elsewhere, including Haiti and Burkino Faso, to reflect his attention to the poor.

Francis made the announcement as he spoke from his studio window to a crowd in St. Peter's Square.

Sixteen of the appointees are younger than 80, meaning they are eligible to elect the next pope, which is a cardinal's most important task. The ceremony to formally install them as cardinals will be held Feb. 22 at the Vatican.

Some appointments were expected, including that of his new secretary of state, the Italian archbishop Pietro Parolin, and the German head of the Vatican's watchdog office for doctrinal orthodoxy, Gerhard Ludwig Mueller.

But some names were surprising.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the pope's selection of churchmen from Haiti and Burkino Faso, which are among the world's poorest nations, reflects Francis' attention to the destitute as a core part of the church's mission.

Also chosen to become a "prince of the church," as the cardinals are known, was Mario Aurelio Poli, the archbishop of Buenos Aires, a post Francis left when he was elected as the first Latin American pope in March.

His selections also came from Managua, Nicaragua; Santiago, Chile; and Rio de Janeiro. The appointees included churchmen from Seoul, South Korea, and the archbishop of Westminster, in Britain, Vincent Nichols.

In a sentimental touch, the three men too old to vote for the next pope include 98-year-old Monsignor Loris Francesco Capovilla, who had served as personal secretary to Pope John XXIII. The late pontiff will be made a saint along with John Paul II at the Vatican in April.

The cardinals named are:

Pietro Parolin, Titular Archbishop of Acquapendente, Secretary of State.

Lorenzo Baldisseri, Titular Archbishop of Diocleziana, Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops.

Gerhard Ludwig Mueller, Archbishop-Bishop emeritus of Regensburg, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Beniamino Stella, Titular Archbishop of Midila, Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy.

Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Westminster, United Kingdom.

Leopoldo Jose Brenes Solorzano, Archbishop of Managua, Nicaragua.

Gerald Cyprien Lacroix, Archbishop of Quebec, Canada.

Jean-Pierre Kutwa, Archbishop of Abidjan, Ivory Coast.

Orani Joao Tempesta, O.Cist., Archbishop of Rio de Janeiro.

Gualtiero Bassetti, Archbishop of Perugia-Citta della Pieve, Italy.

Mario Aurelio Poli, Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Andrew Yeom Soo jung, Archbishop of Seoul, South Korea.

Ricardo Ezzati Andrello, S.D.B., Archbishop of Santiago del Cile, Chile.

Philippe Nakellentuba Ouedraogo, Archbishop of Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso.

Orlando B. Quevedo, O.M.I., Archbishop of Cotabato, Philippines.

Chibly Langlois, Bishop of Les Cayes, Haiti.

Loris Francesco Capovilla, Titular Archbishop of Mesembria.

Fernando Sebastian Aguilar, C.M.F., Archbishop emeritus of Pamplona.

Kelvin Edward Felix, Archbishop emeritus of Castries.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 15, 2014, 08:38:15 pm
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/14/obama-to-pay-visit-to-pope/
1/14/14

Obama to pay visit to Pope

CNN White House Producer Kevin Liptak   

(CNN) – President Barack Obama plans to soon meet with Pope Francis for the first time.

Secretary of State John Kerry said the President was “looking forward” to visiting the popular new leader of the Roman Catholic Church at the Vatican.

Kerry did not say when the trip would take place.

The White House said it had no specific travel announcements to make, but that Obama “very much looks forward to meeting Pope Francis at some point in the near future.”

Kerry, a Roman Catholic, met with Vatican leaders on Tuesday to discuss foreign policy and economic issues, including Francis’ outspoken stance on income inequality worldwide.

He did not meet with the Pope.

Obama has cited the Pope’s inequality stance himself in an economic address in December.

“Across the developed world, inequality has increased,” Obama said. “Some of you may have seen just last week, the Pope himself spoke about this at eloquent length. ‘How can it be,’ he wrote, ‘that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?’”


Obama met Francis’ predecessor, Benedict XVI, in 2009, six months after taking office. That meeting, which took place at the Vatican, was Obama’s only meeting with a Pope.

His presidency has been marked by some high-profile clashes with the Catholic Church, including over abortion and contraception.

But Francis’ approach to world economic issues is widely seen as more in line with Obama’s own approach than that of Benedict, who stepped down last year.

In an MSNBC interview last year, Obama called Francis an "extraordinarily thoughtful and soulful messenger of peace and justice."

"I haven't had a chance to meet him yet,” Obama said. “But everything that I've read, everything that I've seen from him, indicates the degree to, to which he is trying to remind us of those core obligations."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on January 16, 2014, 02:20:38 am
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"I haven't had a chance to meet him yet,” Obama said. “But everything that I've read, everything that I've seen from him, indicates the degree to, to which he is trying to remind us of those core obligations."

Now that is a completely underwhelming statement.  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 21, 2014, 04:24:05 pm
http://news.msn.com/us/obama-to-meet-with-pope-francis-in-march
Obama to meet with Pope Francis in March
1/21/14

President Obama also plans to meet in Rome with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano and Prime Minister Enrico Letta.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will meet with Pope Francis at the Vatican as part of a European trip scheduled for March.

The White House says Obama "looks forward to discussing with Pope Francis their shared commitment to fighting poverty and growing inequality" during their March 27 meeting. Obama also plans to meet in Rome with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano and Prime Minister Enrico Letta.

Obama's trip begins March 24-25 in The Hague, Netherlands, where he will participate in a nuclear security summit hosted by the Dutch government and meet with Dutch leaders.

On March 26, Obama will travel to Brussels for an U.S.-European Union summit with the presidents of the European Council and the European Commission, as well as meetings with Belgian leaders and NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 23, 2014, 07:27:31 am
This story is to funny  ;D  :D

Pope Endorses March for Life
"May God help us respect all life, especially the most vulnerable."


On Wednesday, the Pope tweeted his support for the nationwide March for Life taking place across the United States:

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Pope Francis        ✔ @Pontifex
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I join the March for Life in Washington with my prayers. May God help us respect all life, especially the most vulnerable
9:00 AM - 22 Jan 2014

Pope Francis has called abortion “horrific.” He said, “"It is horrific even to think that there are children, victims of abortion, who will never see the light of day,” Pope Francis said. He called abortion part of a “throwaway culture,” stating, “Unfortunately, what is thrown away is not only food and dispensable objects, but often human beings themselves, who are discarded as unnecessary.”

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/pope-endorses-march-life

And now the kicker from the Liberal NEWS   :D

MSNBC Host Shocked That Pope Is Catholic
"Today’s tweet of the day is reflective in ways in which the Church has not changed"


Wednesday on Chris Jansing's MSNBC program, the host had a discussion with a panel about President Obama's upcoming European trip where he will meet with Pope Francis. The discussion centered on what seems to be a common theme of the two leaders: the wide income gap between the world's rich and poor. When the segment was over the program went to commercial and returned to a slide showing a tweet the Pope made in support of the March for Life, an annual rally in Washington DC by pro-life Americans.

    Today’s tweet of the day is reflective in ways in which the Church has not changed. It comes from Pope Francis, "I join the March for Life in Washington with my prayers. May God help us respect all life, especially the most vulnerable."

It would be interesting to understand what Ms. Jansing meant by her comment. Catholic theology is decidedly anti-abortion. The Pope is not only Catholic, but he is the head of the Catholic Church. What exactly would she expect him to say?

video: http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/msnbc-host-shocked-pope-catholic


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 23, 2014, 05:18:04 pm
And that's how it's been since 1980 in particular - you have the "social conservatives" aka Catholics on one end, and the "Liberal" News on the other end, both end up "fighting amongst one another" over these "hot button" issues like abortion.

When all is said and done, the Catholic Church ends up being painted as *true conservatism*, and these "liberal media" watchdog groups like Hannity, FOX, and Brent Bozell do their part to add fuel to the fire(and end up painting Christianity in a bad light).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 24, 2014, 10:36:49 am
Pope: Internet Is a 'Gift From God' for Dialogue
VATICAN CITY January 23, 2014 (AP)
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-internet-gift-god-dialogue-21633850

The Internet is a "gift from God" that facilitates communication, Pope Francis said in a statement released Thursday, but he warns that the obsessive desire to stay connected can actually isolate people from their friends and family.

Francis made the observations in a message about Catholic Church communications, meditating on the marvels and perils of the digital era and what that means for the faithful going out into the world and interacting with people of different faiths and backgrounds.

In comments that will likely rile the more conservative wing of the church, Francis suggested that in engaging in that dialogue, Catholics shouldn't be arrogant in insisting that they alone possess the truth.

"To (have a) dialogue means to believe that the 'other' has something worthwhile to say, and to entertain his or her point of view and perspective," Francis wrote. "Engaging in dialogue does not mean renouncing our own ideas and traditions, but the pretense that they alone are valid and absolute."

According to church teaching distilled by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Catholic Church holds the "fullness of the means of salvation" — a message that has long been taken to mean that only Catholics can find salvation. Church teaching also holds that those who don't know about Jesus but seek God can also attain eternal salvation.

Pope Benedict XVI was a strong proponent of engaging in interreligious dialogue, but Francis has offered a softer approach in his sermons and gestures. In one famous off-the-cuff homily, he suggested that even atheists can find salvation. He also riled some conservatives when he washed the feet of two Muslims during the Holy Thursday re-enactment of Christ washing the feet of his apostles.

Archbishop Claudio Mario Celli, the head of the Vatican's social communications office, said he didn't think Francis was making an official policy statement on interreligious dialogue, noting that the message was merely a reflection, "not a conciliar or dogmatic text."

But he acknowledged that Francis is shaking things up in much the same "providential" way Pope John XXIII shook up the church in launching the Second Vatican Council.

"We are realizing that there are sensations of, I wouldn't say difficulty, but of discomfort sometimes in certain circles," he said. "I think step by step we must rediscover a sense of the path, of what the pope wants to tell us."

In his message Thursday, Francis said the Internet offers "immense possibilities" to encounter people from different cultural and traditional backgrounds and show solidarity with them.

"This is something truly good, a gift from God," he wrote. But he warned: "The desire for digital connectivity can have the effect of isolating us from our neighbors, from those closest to us."

He called for communications in the digital era to be like "a balm which relieves pain and a fine wine which gladdens hearts" and for the church's message to not be one of bombarding others with Christian dogma.

"May the light we bring to others not be the result of cosmetics or special effects, but rather of our being loving and merciful neighbors to those wounded and left on the side of the road," he said.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on January 24, 2014, 12:15:04 pm
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According to church teaching distilled by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Catholic Church holds the "fullness of the means of salvation" — a message that has long been taken to mean that only Catholics can find salvation. Church teaching also holds that those who don't know about Jesus but seek God can also attain eternal salvation.

There you go! Clear cut heresy.

The real truth is...

10  Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11  This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Acts 4:10-12 (KJB)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 25, 2014, 04:12:58 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-women-play-expanded-role-church-140955983.html
Pope: Women should play expanded role in Church
1/25/14

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Saturday lauded women for their sensitivity toward the society's weak and "gifts" like intuition, insisting they take on greater responsibilities in the Catholic church, as well as in professional and public spheres.

Francis was full of praise about female talent and untapped potential in a speech at the Vatican to an Italian women's group. But the pope gave no sign that the Vatican glass ceiling against ordaining women for the priesthood might see some cracks during his papacy.

From day one of his papacy in March, Francis has been trying to make the Catholic church more welcoming, but it forbids women from becoming priests, arguing among other things, that Jesus and his apostles were men.

Francis made clear back in November, in an extensive document laying out his priorities as head of the 1.2-billion-member Catholic church, that the ban against women's ordination would stand. Then, and in his speech on Saturday, he did go out of his way to urge a greater role for women in making decisions and holding responsibilities in the church.

Referring to that document, Francis told his audience that he had stressed "the indispensable contribution of women in society, in particular with their sensitivity and intuition toward the other, the weak and the unprotected." He said he has been heartened that "many women share some pastoral responsibilities with priests in looking after persons, families and groups" and he said he had hoped that "the spaces for a more diffuse and incisive presence in the church be expanded."

In some parishes, women visit parishioners too frail to come to church, run prayer groups and outreach programs to the poor, as well as help distribute communion to the faithful at Masses, especially in churches with large congregations.

"These new spaces and responsibilities that have been opened, and I strongly hope that they can further be opened up to the presence and activity of women, both in the church environment as well that of the public and professional" spheres, Francis said, "cannot make us forget the irreplaceable role of the woman in a family."

His audience was made up of Italian women, who live in a country with one of the lowest rates of women in the workplace in the European Union, as many in Italy leave jobs to raise children and never return or never enter the workplace at all.

Keeping with the Vatican's stress on so-called traditional families, Francis said families benefit from women's "gifts of delicateness, special sensitivity and tenderness."

As the Vatican toils to shore up sometimes flagging faith among Catholics, Francis laid out how the church sees women as crucial for that.

"The presence of women in a domestic setting turns out to be so necessary" for the "transmission to future generations of solid moral principles and the very transmission of the faith," Francis said.

Shutting women out of the priesthood has also meant they have never climbed to the top ranks of the most crucial offices at the Vatican, since those jobs go to prelates. The pope's top advisers are drawn from cardinals, the elite group of men whose responsibilities include electing popes.

The Vatican has cracked down swiftly and severely on any women who defy the ban by being ordained priests, trying to discourage female ordination movements that have some support in the U.S. and western Europe.

Seven women who said they were ordained as priests in a ceremony on the Danube River were excommunicated by the Vatican a few weeks later during the papacy of John Paul II, who, like Francis, often praised women for their talents and what he called special "charisma." And during the papacy of Benedict XVI, the predecessor of Francis, the Vatican defrocked a priest who had supported women's ordination and had participated in a 2008 ceremony of female ordination.

Since Francis has stressed mercy as a dominant characteristic of his pontificate, any more female ordinations would present a highly-watched occasion to see how he would handle such a grave violation of church teaching.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 28, 2014, 10:57:33 am
Pope Francis makes cover of Rolling Stone
1/28/14
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-rolling-stone-cover-144412378.html

Pope Francis — Bishop of Rome, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, His Holiness — has another title to add to his papal résumé: Rolling Stone cover subject.

The pope graces the cover of the iconic music magazine this week for a "The Times They Are A-Changin':
Inside the Pope's gentle revolution,"
a 7,700-word profile by contributing editor Mark Binelli, who went inside the Vatican to report on Francis' swift break from tradition.

"In less than a year since his papacy began, Pope Francis has done much to separate himself from past popes and establish himself as a people's pope," Binelli writes.

More from the profile:

Surprising desk clerks at the hotel where he'd been staying during the papal conclave by showing up to pay his own bill; panicking bodyguards by swigging from a cup of maté (the highly caffeinated tealike beverage popular throughout South America) handed to him by a stranger during a visit to Brazil; cracking up cardinals with jokes at his own expense hours after being elected (to those assembled at his first official dinner as pope, he deadpanned, "May God forgive you for what you've done").

After the disastrous papacy of Benedict, a staunch traditionalist who looked like he should be wearing a striped shirt with knife-fingered gloves and menacing teenagers in their nightmares, Francis' basic mastery of skills like smiling in public seemed a small miracle to the average Catholic. But he had far more radical changes in mind. By eschewing the papal palace for a modest two-room apartment, by publicly scolding church leaders for being "obsessed" with divisive social issues like gay marriage, birth control and abortion ("Who am I to judge?" Francis famously replied when asked his views on homosexual priests) and – perhaps most astonishingly of all – by devoting much of his first major written teaching to a scathing critique of unchecked free-market capitalism, the pope revealed his own obsessions to be more in line with the boss' son.

Francis has been on other major magazine covers, including Time magazine, which declared him its 2013 Person of the Year last month. (It was the second time in a year Time ran a pope cover.)

Francis is the first pope to make the cover of Rolling Stone, the so-called "music bible" founded in 1967 by Jann Wenner, something bands including the Velvet Underground, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine each failed to do.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 29, 2014, 08:40:46 am
Man of the Year not enough? Pope Francis now SuperPope

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDyUQjCMAAB7Kh.jpg)

It wasn't enough that Pope Francis was named Time magazine's "Person of the Year" or that he fronted this week's Rolling Stone magazine. Now there's SuperPope graffiti sprouting up around the Vatican.

The white caped crusader appeared on Tuesday on a wall just off Borgo Pio, a tiny cobble-stoned street near St. Peter's Square. In typical superhero fashion, Francis' right fist is thrust in the air, leading him in flight, while his left clutches his black satchel. "Valores," or values in Spanish, is written across it.

The artist is identified only as Maupal.

Francis has charmed the masses with his simplicity and message of helping the poor, even as he has cracked down on Vatican waste and corruption.

The Vatican communications office approved of the image, tweeting the photo on Tuesday.

    We share with you a graffiti found in a Roman street near the #Vatican / Les compartimos este graffiti que vimos hoy t.co/In76sMJE4v

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/man-of-the-year-not-enough-pope-francis-now-superpope/article1-1177851.aspx


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 29, 2014, 08:42:44 am
Pope Francis: Rolling Stone's new rockstar

There's just no stopping the people's Pope. After appearing on the cover of Time's magazine, he has now invaded the space usually reserved for rock and movie stars - the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.

The magazine has given the 'rockstar' treatment to the story as well, headlining it 'Pope Francis: The Times They Are A-Changin' in a nod to Bob Dylan's iconic track.

The Pope has done a lot to deserve it too. Since March when he was elevated to the post, he has ensured that attendance to papal events has tripled to 6.6 million.

The 77-year-old Argentine pontiff is renowned for throwing off his security and plunging into the crowds to greet pilgrims, and often uses jokes or stories to spread the values of the Church.

The Pope is a keen Twitter user himself, regularly posting tweets on his own feeds in nine languages, which boast more than 10 million followers in total.

He also offered some clickable moments which left the people on social media asking for more - sporting a red clown nose to the indulgent treatment of a young boy who climbed onto the dais and then Pope's chair while he was delivering a sermon.

The magazine says, "By eschewing the papal palace for a modest two-room apartment, by publicly scolding church leaders for being "obsessed" with divisive social issues like gay marriage, birth control and abortion ("Who am I to judge?" Francis famously replied when asked his views on homosexual priests)… the Pope revealed his own obsessions to be more in line with the boss' son."

The latest is graffiti in Vatican by an anonymous artist which portrays Francis as a superman, flying through the air with his white cape billowing out behind him. Speeding forwards with his fist raised, the heroic pontiff -- crucifix swinging in the wind -- carries his trademark black bag, with the word "values" written across it, in Spanish.

(http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2014/1/poponcover1.jpg)

http://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/tabloid/pope-francis-the-new-rockstar/article1-1177817.aspx


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 29, 2014, 12:00:29 pm
http://the-trumpet-online.com/pope-francis-encourages-muslims-read-koran/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+the-trumpet-online%2FpHEN+%28The+Trumpet+Online%29
Pope Francis encourages Muslims to read the Koran and share the Islamic faith with others
1/22/14

“The Pope asked young people to ’cause a stir’ on Church reform during the course of a closed-door meeting held today with youth from the parish of the Basilica dedicated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus in Castro Pretorio, near Rome’s termini railway station. Francis went on a four-hour visit of the parish yesterday afternoon. During today’s meeting Francis confided that he also felt ‘suffering’ and invited those among them who were Christians who read the Bible and those of them who were Muslims and read the Koran to share their suffering and faith because there is one single God, one same God…

Francis then talked about the importance of sharing suffering: ‘It is important you do this when you meet. Those who are Christians with the Bible and those who are Muslims with the Koran, with the faith you have received from your fathers, a faith that will always help you move forward. Share your faith, because there is one single God, the same God.’”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on January 29, 2014, 12:32:10 pm
Quote
Those who are Christians with the Bible and those who are Muslims with the Koran, with the faith you have received from your fathers, a faith that will always help you move forward. Share your faith, because there is one single God, the same God.’”

Obviously, these people are blind leaders of the blind, because here's an alleged Christian, encouraging people to continue spreading the lies of a false religion that WILL lead people into damnation. He literally is telling people to worship other gods, under the lie it's all the same god.

THAT people is the Catholic Cult for ya!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 31, 2014, 08:49:09 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-replaces-cardinal-head-vatican-financial-authority-154120296--sector.html;_ylt=A0SO8zJWtutSUz8AQtlXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzYWJhZXB2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDMyMl8x
Pope replaces cardinal at head of Vatican financial authority
1/30/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Thursday replaced a cardinal who played a senior role in Vatican finances for more than a decade, in his latest move to clear out the old financial guard associated with his predecessor.

The Vatican said the pope had accepted the resignation of Cardinal Atillio Nicora as president of the Vatican's Financial Information Authority (AIF), its internal regulatory watchdog.

Nicora, 76, held high-level roles in Vatican finances since 2002. He was replaced by Bishop Giorgio Corbellini, 66, who has a track record of reform within the Vatican bureaucracy.

The move, which follows the replacement of four cardinals connected to the Vatican bank on January 15, came as Francis is approaching the first anniversary of a pontificate marked by austerity and sobriety.

With Thursday's move, he has made a nearly total break with the clerical financial establishment he inherited from his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who resigned last year.

From 2002 to 2011, Nicora served as head of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (APSA), which manages the city-state's real estate holdings and financial and stock portfolios and also acts as a purchasing and human resources department.

Between 2007 and 2013 he was also on a commission of cardinals that oversaw the troubled Vatican bank, which is now undergoing a process of reform to make it conform to international standards of transparency and against money laundering.

A 2012 report by Moneyval, a monitoring committee of the Council of Europe, expressed concern that there were people with roles both at AIF, whose mandate includes regulating the bank, and at the bank itself.

OLD GUARD

Nicora left the bank supervisory role last year but kept his role at AIF until Thursday.

AIF will have a pivotal role in cleaning up Vatican finances in the coming months as Francis' reforms are expected to intensify. It will be carrying out an on-site investigation of the bank soon at the request of Moneyval.

A Vatican source said it would have been awkward for Nicora to have any role in investigating departments in which he once held senior positions.

He said Nicora was part of the old guard who had to be moved aside because of his past association with both the bank and APSA during one of the most turbulent periods for Vatican finances.

Nicora was on the cardinals supervisory committee of the bank, officially known as the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR), in 2012 when the IOR's then president, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, was fired by the non-clergy board of the bank.

The board said he was a bad manager but Gotti Tedeschi said he was sacked because he wanted the bank to be more transparent.

APSA, the other department Nicora headed for years, is now being investigated by the Promontory Financial Group, an outside company.

Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, a prelate who worked at APSA for 22 years as an accountant and is now under arrest on charges of money smuggling and money laundering, has told Italian magistrates that APSA operated as a parallel bank.

Scarano said outsiders were allowed to have accounts at APSA even though it is against its regulations.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on January 31, 2014, 01:28:38 pm
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...make it conform to international standards of transparency and against money laundering...

How about applying the same mandates of "transparency" to the Vatican Archives? Like that will ever happen!  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 01, 2014, 09:31:23 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-39-really-impressed-39-pope-39-message-150833433.html
Obama 'really impressed' with Pope's message of equality
1/31/14

Washington (AFP) - US President Barack Obama expressed strong admiration of Pope Francis for promoting "a true sense of brotherhood and sisterhood and regard for those who are less fortunate," in an interview aired Friday.

"I have been really impressed so far with the way he's communicated what I think is the essence of the Christian faith," Obama told CNN of the pontiff who has refashioned the image of the Roman Catholic Church since his installation last year.

The US president, who will visit the Vatican in March, said he didn't believe Francis was acting out of a desire to gain widespread approval.

Rather, "I think he is very much reflecting on his faith and what he needs to do to make sure that folks -- not just of the Catholic faith but people all around the world -- are living out a message that he thinks is consistent with the lessons of Jesus Christ," Obama said.

"That's a meeting I'm looking forward to," he added of the planned March 27 sit-down.

Obama has made rising inequality and the struggles of America's middle classes the signature domestic issue of his second term.

In a speech in December, Obama praised an argument advanced by Pope Francis, the first non-European pontiff in nearly 1,300 years, on rising inequality in societies split between the very poor and the super rich.

"How could it be, he wrote, that it's not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?"

Pope Francis argued in the exhortation, that such conflicted values marked a "case of exclusion" in an unequal society.

And in October, the president told CNBC that he was "hugely impressed" with the pope's humility and empathy to the poor.

Obama was last in Vatican City in 2009, when he met Pope Benedict.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 06, 2014, 03:37:44 pm
Video: Real-life Philomena asks Pope for forgiveness
http://news.yahoo.com/video/real-life-philomena-asks-pope-190954725.html

Eighty-year-old Philomena Lee, whose story was turned into the Academy Award-nominated "Philomena," asks Pope Francis for forgiveness. Gavino Garay reports.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 09, 2014, 06:19:56 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/catholics-support-francis-many-split-teachings-poll-134201090.html

Catholics support Francis, but many split on teachings: poll
2/9/14

Washington (AFP) - Catholics believe Pope Francis is doing a good job, but many disagree with Church doctrine on hot-button issues, especially contraceptives, according to a global poll out on Sunday.

The survey by the US-based Spanish-language network Univision of Catholics in 12 countries found that those most likely to support Church teachings are married men and women 55 years and older who attend mass frequently and live in rural areas.

For the rest, opinions on issues such as gay marriage, abortion, divorce and female priests vary by region, age, geographic location and income.

According to the poll, 87 percent of Catholics believe that Francis is doing a good or excellent job as his papacy reaches its first anniversary in March.

Yet 78 percent favor using contraceptives, a violation of Church doctrine.

On other issues there are marked regional differences: for example 80 percent of Catholics in Africa and 76 percent in the Philippines support the ban on female priests, but only 30 percent in Europe and 36 percent in the United States are in favor.

The most controversial subject is gay marriage: opposition to such unions is overwhelming in Africa at 99 percent, compared with 40 percent in the United States.

"On average, five percent more women, 18 percent more young people and 10 percent more upper and upper middle class members are in favor of gay marriage compared to their counterparts," the pollsters said.

Catholics in Spain -- which for centuries enforced Church doctrine through the Holy Inquisition -- are among the most liberal in the world, according to the survey, along with those in France.

Catholics in Africa and the Philippines are the most conservative, while those in Argentina and Brazil are mostly liberal.

The poll by Bendixen & Amandi International for Univision surveyed 12,036 Catholics in Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Democratic Republic of Congo, France, Italy, Mexico, Philippines, Poland, Spain, Uganda and the United States.

The countries represent 61 percent of the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, and pollsters say the survey has a 0.9 percent overall margin of error.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on February 10, 2014, 03:51:59 am
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Yet 78 percent favor using contraceptives, a violation of Church doctrine.

That's a misleading way of putting it. "Church" doctrine is that a person isn't suppose to go running around fornicating, so no need for contraception, right? The ONLY person you would be having sex with is your spouse. So why would parishioners want contraceptives in opposition to church doctrine? Because of the lusts of the flesh. Most of the people who identify as being Catholic, aren't even regular practicing Catholics. They grow up in a family that the common religion is Catholic, so they call themselves Catholic. Most I'd say aren't close to being Catholic even though they are counted as such.

Polls are useless unless your trying to project an agenda.

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The most controversial subject is gay marriage: opposition to such unions is overwhelming in Africa at 99 percent, compared with 40 percent in the United States.

THAT is a lie, when you consider that the MAJORITY of states have banned gay marriage.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 10, 2014, 04:31:48 am
Pope Coming To Israel As 'Che Guevera of Palestinians'

Reports from sources close to pope reveal his upcoming visit meant as PA propaganda, Elkin calls reports 'exaggerated.'


Pope Francis apparently plans to heed Palestinian Authority (PA) Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's calls, and use his upcoming visit to Israel in May as a propaganda move for the Palestine Authority (PA) against Israel, according to reports in Makor Rishon.

The revelation comes from Rabbi Sergio Bergman, a member of the Argentinian parliament and close friend of Pope Francis, who claimed the pope intends to define himself as the "Che Guevera of the Palestinians" and support their "struggle and rights."

In late December it was similarly noted that the pope will not host "mass" prayer services in Jerusalem during his trip, but instead in PA-controlled Bethlehem as a show of support. The move is slightly ironic, as most Christians have reportedly been driven out of the city by Muslims, while Abbas has claimed "Jesus was Palestinian."

Deputy Foreign Minister Ze'ev Elkin (Likud Beytenu) spoke with Arutz Sheva about the subject, noting that the foreign ministry is preparing for the visit and keeping an eye on developments between representatives from the Vatican and the PA.

Elkin claims Rabbi Bergman's description is exaggerated, and that he doesn't anticipate the pope to reference communist revolutionary Che Guevera as a model, even as he stresses that all official visitors are asked to stay balanced and "not dance at two weddings."

"Our role is to ensure that there won't be an unusual gesture, and we have the tools to do so," remarked Elkin, noting that talks are ongoing with the Vatican, which understands Israel would oppose such statements.

Elkin further claims the Vatican has important interests that would prevent it from taking a blatantly anti-Israel stance as described by Rabbi Bergman, saying "they won't want to endanger those interests."

Last July, Elkin rejected reports that the foreign ministry was planning to sign an agreement transferring all or part of King David's Tomb, located on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, to the Vatican. Above the tomb is located a room in which the Catholic Church claims the "Last Supper" occurred.

Despite Elkin's assurances, Rabbi Yisrael Ariel, founder of the Temple Institute, warned in late January that the pope's visit may be timed for exactly such a transfer of ownership to occur, referencing the 2008 agreement by the government to relinquish control of the historic Russian Compound buildings in Jerusalem to Russian control. The offices of the Agriculture Ministry and the Society for the Protection of Nature in Israel vacated the premises in 2011.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/177110#.UviqDM6uESb


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2014, 05:51:11 am
So THAT'S What Was Meant By "Peter The ROMAN" -- Pope Resurrects Latin For Masses

Pope Francis has resurrected Latin for the masses and made it en vogue, with over 209,000 following his tweets in what is a dead language. So popular are the papal tweets that the Pope now has more followers of his Latin account than his ones in Arabic, German and Polish. The previous Pope Benedict has taken the credit for having resurrected Latin for the masses before Pope Francis. However, the former faced a tough audience when he posted his first tweet. When he posted: Pope Francis Has Resurrected Latin for the Masses . Followers were baffled. For those who are interested, it means in so many words the Lord asks individuals to work together, by praying constantly and to always remain humble as one walks with Him.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/02/pope-francis-has-resurrected-latin-for-the-masses/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2014, 06:01:33 am
Queen to meet pope at Vatican in April

Queen Elizabeth II will meet Pope Francis for the first time when she visits Rome in April as a guest of the Italian president, Buckingham Palace said Tuesday. The queen and her husband Prince Philip will have an audience with the pope after attending a lunch hosted by President Giorgio Napolitano during the one-day visit on April 3.   

http://news.yahoo.com/queen-meet-pope-vatican-april-001757213.html;_ylt=A0SO8wHANvFSTRkAF_9XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0M2JhNm9yBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDM2NF8x


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 11, 2014, 11:32:05 am
Almost everyone now has a date set to meet the new Pope in the near future, it seems.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 13, 2014, 10:29:59 pm
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/02/13/rare-public-split-catholic-bishops-differ-sharply-anti-gay-laws/
2/13/14
In rare public split, Catholic bishops differ sharply on anti-gay laws

RNS) The Roman Catholic hierarchy has generally been viewed as a unified bloc in opposition to gay rights, but the emergence of especially punitive measures against gays in various countries has opened unusually stark and public fissures among bishops in different nations.

The divisions are also raising questions about whether Pope Francis, who has struck a charitable tone toward gays and lesbians, needs to take action.

The issue is especially pressing in Africa, where Nigeria, the continent’s most populous country, recently adopted a harsh law that imposes a 14-year prison term for anyone entering into a same-sex relationship, as well as a 10-year sentence for anyone found to support gay clubs or meetings. Even public displays of affection by gays and lesbians is considered a crime.

Legislation imposing similarly repressive sanctions on gays has been proposed in Uganda, Cameroon and Tanzania.

In Nigeria the leader of the hierarchy fully supported that country’s new law, which prompted a wave of violence against gays when it passed.

In a January letter on behalf of the Catholic hierarchy of Nigeria, Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama of Jos praised Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan for his “courageous and wise decision” in signing the legislation. Kaigama said it would protect Nigeria “against the conspiracy of the developed world to make our country and continent, the dumping ground for the promotion of all immoral practices.”

A few days later, however, a strongly worded editorial in the The Southern Cross, a newspaper run jointly by the bishops of South Africa, Botswana and Swaziland, took aim at the new law, calling on the Catholic Church in Africa “to stand with the powerless” and “sound the alarm at the advance throughout Africa of draconian legislation aimed at criminalizing homosexuals.”

The editorial decried the “deep-seated sense of homophobia” in Africa and said the church had too often been “silent, in some cases even quietly complicit” in the face of the new anti-gay measures. It also noted that the Catechism of the Catholic Church (No. 2358) explicitly states that gay people “must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity” and that “every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided
.”

The differences are manifesting themselves elsewhere, as well.

For example, the Southern Cross editorial blasted as “astonishing” a claim last month by a retired Spanish bishop, Fernando Sebastian Aguilar, who said that homosexuality is a “defect” comparable to his own high blood pressure. Pope Francis is set to make Aguilar a cardinal later this month.

And in Poland, the hierarchy has launched a full-scale assault on what it calls the “ideology of gender,” a vague term it says is aimed at promoting homosexuality, among other things. The bishops’ campaign has prompted a strong backlash from many in the Polish church.

In India, on the other hand, Cardinal Oswald Gracias of Mumbai, the leader of Indian Catholicism and one of Pope Francis’ top advisers, last month came out strongly against a decision by the nation’s high court to reinstate a ban on gay sex, which includes penalties of 10 years to life in prison.

“The Catholic Church does not want homosexuals to be treated as criminals,” Gracias said, and cited the pope’s words when asked about his approach to gay people. “The church stand is, ‘Who am I to judge them?’ as the Holy Father has said.”

And this week in Ireland, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin reacted to concerns over anti-gay comments in the media by saying that “anybody who doesn’t show love towards gay and lesbian people is insulting God. They are not just homophobic if they do that — they are actually Godophobic because God loves every one of those people.”

Martin also lamented that church teaching can sometimes be used “in a homophobic way.”

What’s behind these high-level disagreements?

Church observers say part of it is a backlash against the new visibility of gay people in society and the corresponding push to grant them legal protections and rights they never had before.

But opposition to the legalization of some rights, such as gay marriage, has at times turned into support for criminalization, which Catholic teaching does not condone. In fact, during a 2009 debate over an earlier version of a Ugandan anti-gay bill, the Vatican announced that Pope Benedict XVI was “opposed to ‘unjust discrimination’ against gay men and lesbians,” a statement apparently aimed at the Ugandan bill.

Similarly, the new criminalization measures have brought calls for Pope Francis to go beyond his supportive comments about gays and lesbians and directly condemn anti-gay laws. The most popular effort is a Twitter campaign that goes by the hashtag #PopeSpeakOut. Church observers wonder whether the pope’s inclination to allow disputes to be settled locally may incline him to let the debate continue without his intervention.

The controversy over the anti-gay laws is most intense in Asia and especially Africa, where culture can trump theology when it comes to dealing with gay people, said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a Jesuit priest and columnist for National Catholic Reporter and author of “Inside the Vatican: The Politics and Organization of the Catholic Church.”

But Reese said regional political realities can play a key role, too: Church leaders who support anti-gay laws often come from countries with large Muslim populations that also tend to support measures against homosexuality. The bishops may not want to do anything that would inflame tensions between the communities.

“I think they’re afraid of the Muslim reaction, and I think they’re afraid of the reaction of many of their own people,” Reese said.

On the other hand, Reese added, at least the bishops are facing criticism from within their own ranks — a benefit of the more free-wheeling style that Francis has brought to the papacy.

“This is progress,” he said. “In the old days, bishops wouldn’t criticize each other. Now we have the bishops talking to each other and some are saying, ‘No, this isn’t the direction the church ought to go.’”



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 22, 2014, 08:53:29 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/benedict-joins-francis-historic-1st-ceremony-121321864.html
2/22/14
Benedict joins Francis in historic 1st ceremony

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Retired Pope Benedict XVI joined Pope Francis at a ceremony Saturday creating the cardinals who will elect their successor in an unprecedented blending of papacies past, present and future.

Benedict discreetly entered St. Peter's Basilica from a side entrance surrounded by a small entourage and was greeted with applause and tears from the stunned people in the pews. He smiled, waved and seemed genuinely happy to be there, taking his seat in the front row, off to the side, alongside the red-draped cardinals.

It was the first time Benedict and Francis have appeared together at a public liturgical ceremony since Benedict retired a year ago and became the first pope to step down in more than 600 years.

The significance of his presence was multifold, signaling both continuity and even a sign of Benedict's approval of the 19 men Francis had chosen to join the College of Cardinals, the elite group of churchmen whose primary job is to elect a pope.

Francis' choices largely reflected his view that the church must minister to the peripheries and not be a closed institution of rules but rather a place of welcome and mercy. He named cardinals from some of the world's poorest countries, Haiti, Burkina Faso and Ivory Coast among them, tapping many pastors like him.

In a sign that Benedict still commands the honor and respect owed a pope, each of the 19 new cardinals — after receiving his red hat from Francis at the altar — went directly to Benedict's seat to greet him before then exchanging a sign of peace with the other cardinals.

Over the summer, Francis and Benedict appeared together in the Vatican gardens to unveil a statue, but Saturday's event marked one of the most important liturgical ceremonies a pope can preside over: the formal installation of new cardinals.

Saturday's ceremony was thus the latest step in the evolving reality of having two popes living side-by-side inside the Vatican: Benedict's presence marked the a new phase of reintegrating him back into the public life of the church after a period of being hidden away that began almost exactly a year ago with his Feb. 28, 2013 resignation.

After processing down the central aisle at the start of the service, Francis went directly to Benedict, clasped him by his shoulders and they embraced. Francis greeted him in the same way at the end of the service, and Benedict removed his white skullcap in a sign of respect as Francis approached.

The crowd erupted in polite applause when one of the new cardinals, Secretary of State Pietro Parolin, greeted Benedict in his introductory remarks at the start of the service, saying "We are grateful for your presence here among us."

Benedict, dressed in his white cassock with a long double-breasted overcoat, again smiled and waved.

Some people reached out to try to touch Benedict as he passed by, others tried to approach him to take his photo but were restrained by ushers.

The occasion for this historic first was Francis' first cardinal-making ceremony to formally welcome 19 new "princes of the church" into the College of Cardinals.

He tapped like-minded cardinals from some of the world's smallest, most remote and impoverished nations: Two hail from Africa, two from Asia and six from Francis' native Latin America, which is home to nearly half the world's Catholics but is grossly underrepresented in the church's hierarchy.

There's Cardinal-designate Chibly Langlois, who isn't even an archbishop but rather the 55-year-old bishop of Les Cayes and now Haiti's first-ever cardinal. Another Caribbean cardinal, Kelvin Edward Felix, was for a quarter-century the archbishop of tiny Castries, St. Lucia, population 163,000.

The archbishop of Managua, Nicaragua, Leopoldo Jose Brenes Solorzano, is an old friend who worked alongside the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in preparing the seminal document of the pope's vision of a missionary church — the so-called Aparecida Document produced by the 2007 summit of Latin American bishops. Nicaragua's second cardinal ever, Brenes has already made an impression at the Vatican with his unruly gray curls and the blue jeans he donned for the flight to Rome.

Cardinal Andrew Yeom Soo-jung, archbishop of Seoul, South Korea, has serious Catholic chops: His ancestors were among the lay people who brought Christianity Churchianity to the Korean peninsula in the 19th century, and his great-great grandfather and his wife were executed as part of the Joseon Dynasty's persecution of Christians, the Asian Catholic news agency UCANews reported. Of the six children in his immediate family, three became priests.

Though he hails from Burkina Faso, Cardinal Philippe Nakellentuba Ouedraogo sounded an awful lot like Francis in his 2013 Christmas homily. Nakellentuba denounced the "inequality, injustice, poverty and misery" of today's society where employers exploit their workers and the powerful few have most of the money while the poor masses suffer.

One cardinal sat out the ceremony even as he made history by living to see it: Cardinal Loris Francesco Capovilla, aged 98, became the oldest member of the College of Cardinals, but due to his age couldn't make the trip from northern Italy. His was a sentimental choice for Francis: For over a decade, Capovilla was the private secretary to Pope John XXIII, whom Francis will make a saint alongside Pope John Paul II in a sign of his admiration for the pope who convened the Second Vatican Council.

Capovilla, Felix and the emeritus archbishop of Pamplona, Spain are all over age 80 and thus ineligible to vote in a conclave to elect Francis' successor.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 24, 2014, 04:16:59 am
Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion

Is Pope Francis taking steps that are laying the groundwork for the emergence of a one world religion?  If that question sounds quite bizarre to you, I urge you to read the rest of this article.  We live at a time when globalization is advancing rapidly.  The global economy is more integrated than it has ever been before, and with each passing year new economic treaties tie us even more closely together.  And “global governance” (as the elite like to call it) is also steadily gaining ground.  Through a whole host of global institutions such as the United Nations, the World Bank, the IMF and the Bank for International Settlements, global governments are working together to a degree that is unprecedented.  Well, what about religion?  Is there evidence that we are also witnessing the globalization of religion?  Well, yes there is.  In fact, it appears that Pope Francis intends to lead the way.

Since he has been Pope, Francis has expressed a desire for unity with the Eastern Orthodox, the Anglicans, and many other major Protestant denominations.  But more than a few eyebrows were raised when he recently sent a video message to Kenneth Copeland and his congregation.  At the time that the video message was played to the congregation, one speaker declared that “Luther’s protest is over”…

    “The Catholic and Charismatic Renewal is the hope of the Church,” exclaims Anglican Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer, before a group of cheering followers at the Kenneth Copeland Ministries.   Palmer said those words are from the Vatican. Before playing the video message from Pope Francis to Kenneth Copeland, Palmer told the crowd,  “When my wife saw that she could be Catholic, and Charismatic, and Evangelical, and Pentecostal, and it was absolutely accepted in the Catholic Church, she said that she would like to reconnect her roots with the Catholic culture. So she did.”

    The crowd cheered, as he continued, “Brothers and sisters, Luther’s protest is over. Is yours?”

    Even Kenneth Copeland finds this development incredible: Said Copeland, “Heaven is thrilled over this…You know what is so thrilling to me? When we went into the ministry 47 years ago, this was impossible.”

You can see video from this conference right here.

So is Luther’s protest really over?

During the Council of Trent, the Catholics condemned to hell anyone that believes in salvation through faith in Jesus alone.  This is a direct quote from the Council of Trent…

    “If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema“

The Catholics have never renounced that stand.  Instead, it has been reaffirmed many times over the years.

If Pope Francis really did want to reach out to Protestants, he should start by reversing the Council of Trent on this.  As it stands, it is official Catholic doctrine that all Protestants are anathema.

But apparently that is not going to stop many Protestants from reuniting with Rome and declaring Francis to be “their Pope”.

Meanwhile, Pope Francis has also been aggressively courting Muslims.  The following quote from Pope Francis comes from remarks that he made during his very first ecumenical meeting…

    I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

    The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs.

Did you catch that?

Apparently Pope Francis believes that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God.

More recently, Francis made the following statement about Muslims…

    “We must never forget that they ‘profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, who will judge humanity on the last day.’”

Wow.

By making this statement, Pope Francis is rejecting another of the most fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith.

You see, Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God.

Muslims hate this doctrine and say that there is no god but Allah.

So how in the world can Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

The only way that you could say this is if you deny the deity of Jesus Christ.

For much more on why “Allah” and the God of Christianity are not the same, please see this article.

Of course when it comes to other religions, Francis is not just reaching out to the Muslims.  During the same ecumenical meeting that I referenced above, he made it a point to say that he feels “close” to those that belong “to any religious tradition”…

    In this, we feel close even to all those men and women who, whilst not recognizing themselves belonging to any religious tradition, feel themselves nevertheless to be in search of truth, goodness and beauty, this truth, goodness and beauty of God, and who are our precious allies in efforts to defend the dignity of man, in building a peaceful coexistence among peoples and in guarding Creation carefully.

And Francis really raised some eyebrows when he made the following statement about atheists…

    “The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can… The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!.. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

There was a lot of debate about what Francis meant by that, and the Vatican issued a statement declaring that Catholic doctrine on these matters had not changed, but without a doubt a lot of people were troubled by this.

In addition, a lot of people were really troubled when the Vatican offered “indulgences” to those that would follow Pope Francis on Twitter.  The following is an excerpt from an article that appeared in the Telegraph…

    Salvation – or at least a shorter stay in Purgatory – might now be only a tweet away with news that Pope Francis is to offer “indulgences” – remissions for temporary punishment – to the faithful who follow him on the social media site.

    Around 1.5 million are expected to flock to Rio de Janeiro to celebrate World Youth Day with the Argentine pontiff later this month. But for those who can’t make it to Brazil,  forgiveness may be available to contrite sinners who follow Francis’s progress via their TV screen or social networks.

    The Sacred Apostolic Penitentiary, the Vatican court that rules on the forgiveness of sins, has said that indulgences may be given to those who follow the “rites and pious exercises” of the event on television, radio and through social media.

So what does Pope Francis actually believe?

That is a very good question.

His beliefs do not appear to be very consistent at all.  He just seems to have an overwhelming desire to “unite” with everyone out there that has any kind of religious faith.

But we do know one kind of people that he does not like.  He does not like “ideological Christians” that take their faith very seriously…

    “In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

So what is going to come of all this?

It will be very interesting to watch.

It is also interesting to note that there is a 900-year-old prophecy that seems to indicate that Pope Francis could be the last Pope.  If that prophecy is accurate, then we could very well be living at a time when we will see the emergence of a one world religion.

Just a few short decades ago, a one world religion would have been absolutely unthinkable.

But now the pieces are starting to come together, and it will be very interesting to see what happens next.

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/pope-francis-and-the-emerging-one-world-religion


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 24, 2014, 09:05:56 am
Monday, February 24, 2014 at 6:26AM
Today's Show: PALMER, POPE & KENNETH COPELAND

Bishop Tony Palmer, who describes himself as a charismatic Catholic, recently spoke at Kenneth Copeland's church in Texas where he presented what he called a "historic message" from Pope Francis on video.  Palmer has apparently been supported by Copeland's ministry for many years, and admits that he began as an evangelical but then became a Catholic priest when he was called by Rome to serve the Vatican's interests during the time of Pope John Paul II.   Having served three popes, he says he met recently in Rome with the current pontiff to make a "covenant for unity" -- by which he intends to pursue the unification of Christian groups around the world.  To further this campaign in the United States, he says he came to Copeland's church where he could find the "big fishes" with their jets, their TV programs, and their mega-congregations to show this pre-recorded message from the Pope. 

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.KENNETH.COPELAND_02.24.14.mp3



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 24, 2014, 11:13:21 am
Quote
“In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

Kind of like the typical modern-day, "organized" Babel church building system - if you want to witness to someone, then you have to hide behind your "pastor" on the pulpit, and bring that person into the church building...ultimately to listen to nothing more than a "feel good" message.

And to boot - just imagine if the great majority of professing Christians read their bibles on a daily basis - most of these church buildings would be parking lots instead.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 24, 2014, 02:17:39 pm
Monday, February 24, 2014 at 6:26AM
Today's Show: PALMER, POPE & KENNETH COPELAND

Bishop Tony Palmer, who describes himself as a charismatic Catholic, recently spoke at Kenneth Copeland's church in Texas where he presented what he called a "historic message" from Pope Francis on video.  Palmer has apparently been supported by Copeland's ministry for many years, and admits that he began as an evangelical but then became a Catholic priest when he was called by Rome to serve the Vatican's interests during the time of Pope John Paul II.   Having served three popes, he says he met recently in Rome with the current pontiff to make a "covenant for unity" -- by which he intends to pursue the unification of Christian groups around the world.  To further this campaign in the United States, he says he came to Copeland's church where he could find the "big fishes" with their jets, their TV programs, and their mega-congregations to show this pre-recorded message from the Pope. 

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.KENNETH.COPELAND_02.24.14.mp3



Just listened to it - it's not only Catholics that come off with an outward appearance of being "good and holy"(notice the quotes I put around). But even Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and even Freemasons I've crossed paths with in my lifetime have this SAME outward appearance.

Pt being that Satan masquerades as an angel of light. He's not some ugly looking character with a pitchfork and a pointed tail.

And yes, it's not just Copeland, but pretty much all of Churchianity is craftily leading you to Rome. These "pastors" may not be mentioning anything about the RCC, but nonetheless they are preaching nonsense like "God gives you life challenges!", "God's giving you a Job test", "We should be in unity", etc, etc that are completely New Age, and will lead further into deception.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 26, 2014, 11:51:40 am
http://news.yahoo.com/frontline-inside-the-vatican-234530666.html

'Secrets of the Vatican' exposes moral crises facing Catholic Church's new pope

By FRONTLINE/Yahoo News
February 25, 2014 6:53 AM

The Roman Catholic Church is enjoying some of its best press in decades, and hundreds of thousands of alienated Catholics are returning, thanks in large part to the new, and in some cases revolutionary, leadership of Pope Francis.

But, says a new documentary by PBS’ "Frontline," “Secrets of the Vatican,” the morally wrenching controversies that threatened to destroy the church's credibility, starting about the time Pope John Paul II died in 2005, have not fully subsided. Further, the success of Francis’ papacy will depend on how quickly and thoroughly he addresses them.

"Secrets of the Vatican," airing tonight at 9 p.m. ET on most PBS stations (check local listings), takes an unsparing look at the state of the church Pope Francis inherited from his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, successor to Pope John Paul II and the first head of the church to resign in 600 years.

“2012 was an annus horribilis for [Benedict],” Antony Thomas, the producer, writer and director of the film for "Frontline," told Yahoo News in an interview. “Everything was exploding. He wanted to clean up the Vatican bank. He was in a very difficult predicament all the way through.”

A horrible year on many fronts, not just with mounting evidence of financial impropriety at the Vatican bank, but also with incidents of sexual abuse by clergy spreading to more than 20 countries and, further, exposure of church hypocrisy about homosexuality. Two of Benedict’s most significant moves were to publicly re-frame the Catholic catechism — in effect, its rules of practice — to emphasize its reference to homosexuality as an “objective disorder,” laying groundwork to, among other things, remove gay clergy.

At the same time, reports emerged from Rome of a “gay mafia” inside the church that included some of its top officials, who were unafraid to wield political power and at the same time live an openly promiscuous gay lifestyle.

“There was a lot that came to light, including a man who was, as it were, providing choirboys as rent boys,” Thomas said. “What we have tried hard to do in the film is not be simplistic about this. There are a lot of people in the Vatican who are gay who are leading celibate lives, and this is difficult for them. And there are others who are promiscuous.”

In the film, a gay priest working in the Vatican describes the effects of the church’s teachings this way: “It’s like a knife in your heart, because I believe in vocation. I believe in the calling of God. I believe in Jesus. I believe He wants us to serve his people, and when a document [says], ‘Oh, you are not able,’ that is ... that is terrible. It’s painful. I hope that, one day, priests can be freely in a relationship and be good priests. That celibacy in the Church will be optional.”

"Secrets of the Vatican" also looks at the connection between the church’s requirement that its clergy must remain celibate and the high number of sexual abuse incidents among its ranks. Few were worse, or as explosive, than the case of the Rev. Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of the Roman Catholic order the Legionaries of Christ, a child abuser whose activities the church turned its back on for decades — and who also managed to father several children by at least two women.

Maciel’s crimes were irrevocably exposed by a Vatican investigation released a year after the death of Pope John Paul II. Due to be declared a saint on April 27, the pope had been an ardent supporter of Maciel and the Legionaries, which developed a reputation for vigorous fundraising, encouraging young people to be priests, and standing as a bastion against liberalism. Brought to the brink of bankruptcy by the revelations about its founder, the Legionaries denounced Maciel in February and apologized to his victims, though the group elected one of his proteges its new leader.

“Secrets of the Vatican” interviews one of Maciel’s sons, who describes the abuse he sustained at the hands of his father. Thomas said the film’s specificity about the nature of sexual abuses was necessary — because it’s still an overwhelming concern and because its seriousness may not have fully registered with the public. “How much more terrible it must be to be abused by your priest ... and the way [abusers] make the child feel guilty by saying, ‘You are the one who is going to hell if you say anything about this...’ You’re taking a little child’s deepest thoughts and trampling on them.”

And yet, Thomas said, despite interviewing dozens of people over the course of the film’s near yearlong production, he discovered something almost miraculous: Only one person said the church's multiple transgressions over the past decade caused a loss of faith. “All the people who are strong critics of what’s going on, they are all devoted Catholics, and I think that is wonderful,” Thomas said.

Further, though Pope Francis has yet to significantly address difficult issues such as abortion and contraception, he has raised the spirits and hopes of untold numbers of alienated Catholics. He has articulated a clear position on the growing economic gap between the world’s wealthiest and poorest people, an outlook he shares with U.S. President Barack Obama, who plans a papal visit on March 27.
 
Whether Francis will be able to tie up Benedict's loose ends by adequately reforming the Vatican bank and its Curia, which oversees its bureaucracy, is a story yet to be told. But the new pope is “absolutely taking things on,” Thomas said.

“He is so warm and spontaneous and natural. He has already achieved an enormous amount, and he hasn’t even been there a year.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 28, 2014, 01:18:37 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/divorce-debate-challenges-pope-francis-065800245.html
2/28/14
Divorce debate challenges Pope Francis

Vatican City (AFP) - The issue of divorce is stoking a spirited debate between Catholic cardinals and revealing the challenges and expectations for Pope Francis after his promises to put the Church more in touch with modern life.

The question is whether divorcees who re-marry should be allowed to take part in the most sacred point of Catholic mass, Holy Communion, which is forbidden under current rules that in practice are often not observed.

Changing the doctrine could in turn alter Church rules on marriage annulments and raise broader questions about the institution of marriage, prompting lively exchanges between traditionalists and reformers.

Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, the archbishop of Lyon in France, told Vatican radio that a meeting of cardinals from around the world in the Vatican this month devoted "80 to 90 percent" of the time to discussing the issue.

German Cardinal Ludwig Mueller, head of the Church's doctrinal watchdog, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has said the current rules are "impossible to change" and that people should stop thinking of marriage as "a party in a church".

Honduran Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, a member of the council of eight cardinals established by the pope to advise him, has taken a more lenient line and has asked Mueller to be "more flexible".

A survey by the Spanish-language network Univision in 12 mainly Catholic countries found that 75 percent of Europeans, 67 percent of Latin Americans and 59 percent of Americans were at odds with the Church on the issue, while in Africa 19 percent of respondents disagreed.

The issue is one of very personal anguish for many Catholic couples, who say they are being treated as second-class believers, and has led to acts of defiance.

The German diocese of Freiburg im Breisgau last year said it was authorizing re-married divorcees to receive Holy Communion on a case by case basis -- prompting a quick telling off from the Vatican.

The issue would affect millions of Catholics around the world, with around a quarter of Catholic marriages ending in divorce in the United States alone.

Some theologians and clergymen have called for changes to facilitate the annulment of marriages in cases in which it could be argued that the wedding took place under social pressure or was not fully understood.

Re-marrying would then be allowed under Church rules and the couple would be allowed to take Holy Communion.

Another possibility could be the Orthodox model, which allows some divorcees to re-marry in church and take Holy Communion but gives only a blessing for the second marriage and does not consider it a sacrament.

Francis mentioned the Orthodox solution as a "parenthesis" on the plane during his return from a visit to Brazil and it was raised again by some cardinals in their consistory this month in which they said it could happen following "a period of penitence".

The issue is likely to dominate a synod of world bishops planned for later this year and another one in 2015, which Francis has said should focus on families.

The divorce debate was raised in an unprecedented questionnaire sent out to dioceses worldwide to find out the approach taken by parishes on many issues, including same-sex couples and pre-marital cohabitation.

Vatican expert Henri Tincq, writing on the website Slate.fr, said the divorce issue is particularly complex on a theological level since "a sacrament is given by God and can never be taken back".


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 28, 2014, 04:04:28 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-sympathy-failed-love-divorce-debate-001928557.html
Pope urges sympathy for failed love in divorce debate
2/27/14

Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis on Friday said couples whose marriages fail should be "accompanied" and not "condemned", wading into a debate on divorce that is testing his promise to put the Church in touch with modern life.

"When love fails, and it fails many times, we have to feel the pain of that failure, accompany the people who have felt the failure of their love," the pope said during the daily mass he holds in the Vatican.

"Don't condemn them! Walk with them!" he said, adding: "We have to be so close to the brothers and sisters who have suffered the failure of love in their lives".

The main issue is whether divorcees who re-marry should be allowed to take part in the most sacred point of Catholic mass, Holy Communion, which is forbidden under current rules that in practice are often not observed.

Changing that doctrine could in turn alter Church rules on marriage annulments and raise broader questions about the institution of marriage, prompting lively exchanges between traditionalists and reformers.

Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, the archbishop of Lyon in France, told Vatican radio that a meeting of cardinals from around the world in the Vatican this month devoted "80 to 90 percent" of the time to discussing the issue.

German Cardinal Ludwig Mueller, head of the Church's doctrinal watchdog, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has said the current rules are "impossible to change" and that people should stop thinking of marriage as "a party in a church".

Honduran Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, a member of the council of eight cardinals established by the pope to advise him, has taken a more lenient line and has asked Mueller to be "more flexible".

A survey by the Spanish-language network Univision in 12 mainly Catholic countries found that 75 percent of Europeans, 67 percent of Latin Americans and 59 percent of Americans were at odds with the Church on the issue, while in Africa 19 percent of respondents disagreed.

The issue is one of very personal anguish for many Catholic couples, who say they are being treated as second-class believers, and has led to acts of defiance.

The German diocese of Freiburg im Breisgau last year said it was authorizing re-married divorcees to receive Holy Communion on a case by case basis -- prompting a quick rebuke from the Vatican.

The issue would affect millions of Catholics around the world, with around a quarter of Catholic marriages ending in divorce in the United States alone.

Some theologians and clergymen have called for changes to facilitate the annulment of marriages in cases in which it could be argued that the wedding took place under social pressure or was not fully understood.

Re-marrying would then be allowed under Church rules and the couple would be allowed to take Holy Communion.

Another possibility could be the Orthodox model, which allows some divorcees to re-marry in church and take Holy Communion but gives only a blessing for the second marriage and does not consider it a sacrament.

Francis mentioned the Orthodox solution as a "parenthesis" on the plane during his return from a visit to Brazil and it was raised again by some cardinals in their consistory this month in which they said it could happen following "a period of penitence".

The issue is likely to dominate a synod of world bishops planned for later this year and another one in 2015, which Francis has said should focus on families.

The divorce debate was raised in an unprecedented questionnaire sent out to dioceses worldwide to find out the approach taken by parishes on many issues, including same-sex couples and pre-marital cohabitation.

Vatican expert Henri Tincq, writing on the website Slate.fr, said the divorce issue is particularly complex on a theological level since "a sacrament is given by God and can never be taken back".


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 28, 2014, 04:10:27 pm
^^

1Corinthians 7:1  Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
1Co 7:2  Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
1Co 7:3  Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
1Co 7:4  The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
1Co 7:5  Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
1Co 7:6  But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
1Co 7:7  For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
1Co 7:8  I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
1Co 7:9  But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
1Co 7:10  And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1Co 7:11  But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife
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1Co 7:12  But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13  And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14  For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15  But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
1Co 7:16  For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
1Co 7:17  But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
1Co 7:18  Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
1Co 7:19  Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1Co 7:20  Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
1Co 7:21  Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
1Co 7:22  For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
1Co 7:23  Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
1Co 7:24  Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
1Co 7:25  Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
1Co 7:26  I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.
1Co 7:27  Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
1Co 7:28  But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
1Co 7:29  But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
1Co 7:30  And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
1Co 7:31  And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
1Co 7:32  But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
1Co 7:33  But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
1Co 7:34  There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
1Co 7:35  And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.
1Co 7:36  But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
1Co 7:37  Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
1Co 7:38  So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
1Co 7:39  The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
1Co 7:40  But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 02, 2014, 10:21:57 pm
Obama and Francis - one and the same...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/02/pope-calls-for-dialogue-in-ukraine-to-resolve-its-crisis/
3/2/14
Pope calls for dialogue in Ukraine to resolve its crisis

VATICAN CITY –  Pope Francis is urging world leaders to promote dialogue as a way of resolving the crisis in Ukraine.

Speaking to thousands of people in St. Peter's Square during his traditional Sunday midday appearance, he said: "I am making a heartfelt appeal to the international community: support every initiative for dialogue and harmony."

Francis urged all segments of Ukrainian society to work together to overcome their misunderstandings and build a future together.

Russian forces have effectively seized control of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula after months of anti-government protests drove its pro-Moscow president out of the country.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 03, 2014, 05:36:35 pm
http://nypost.com/2014/03/03/pope-drops-f-bomb-during-vatican-blessing/
3/3/14
Pope drops F-bomb during Vatican blessing

Pope Francis may need to go to confession after inadvertently blurting out an Italian F-bomb during his weekly blessing from the Vatican.

“If each one of us does not amass riches only for oneself, but half for the service of others, in this f–k [pause], in this case the providence of God will become visible through this gesture of solidarity,” Francis said to the faithful gathered in St. Peter’s Square, Italian media reported.

His Holiness meant to use the Italian word for “example,” which is “caso.”

Instead, he used the word “cazzo,” which Italians use as a synonym for the four-letter obscenity.

The papal slip-up immediately went viral on Italian websites and quickly made its way to YouTube.

But the 77-year-old pontiff kept his cool, and his defenders took to the Internet to say it was a common mistake for native Spanish speakers when they talk in Italian.

Others said the literal translation of the word is a synonym for the male organ — but that it is also commonly used as the F-word.

A Vatican spokesman had no comment on the foul-up.

Warning: Graphic language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn-sCvQG1i0


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 05, 2014, 02:10:21 pm
Pope Francis Reportedly Hints That Catholic Church Could Tolerate Some Gay Civil Unions

Catholic theology hasn’t changed when it comes to teachings on homosexuality, but Pope Francis has now reportedly indicated that the church could eventually tolerate some forms of same-sex civil unions, specifically when it comes to issues like medical care and property ownership.

Francis affirmed the Catholic Church’s opposition to same-sex marriage in an interview with Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, saying that matrimony remains theologically limited to one man and one woman.

But the pope also seemed to note that civil unions provide some financial stability for couples, mentioning both health care and property rights as guarantees that come as a result of certain civil unions.

As Catholic News Service reported, the pope said that moves to “regulate diverse situations of cohabitation [are] driven by the need to regulate economic aspects among persons, as for instance to assure medical care.”

“We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety,” Francis said.

Though by no means an open endorsement of non-marital civil unions, it was certainly not an overt rejection of the paradigm. At the very least, Francis’ words appear to leave the door open to the possibility that the church could support certain legal agreements between same-sex individuals.

“The president of the Pontifical Council for the Family said in February 2013 that some legal arrangements are justifiable to protect the inheritance rights of nonmarried couples,” Catholic News Service reported. “But until now, no pope has indicated even tentative acceptance of civil unions.”

This is not the first time Francis’ views about civil unions have taken center stage. In January, the Vatican hit back against headlines that seemed to indicate the pope was supportive of same-sex unions in Italy, and last year, reports in CNN and the New York Times highlighted claims that the pope had previously endorsed same-sex unions.

Last year, Marcelo Marquez, an activist and a former theology professor at a Catholic college, said that the then-cardinal, formerly known as Jorge Mario Bergoglio, phoned him in 2010 to tell him about his support for civil unions.

“He told me. … ‘I’m in favor of gay rights and in any case, I also favor civil unions for homosexuals, but I believe that Argentina is not yet ready for a gay marriage law,’” Marquez told CNN.

The phone conversation purportedly unfolded after Marquez sent a letter to Argentina’s Catholic leaders, decrying their handling of the gay marriage debate in the country. Less than an hour later, the activist said that the then-bishop called him to discuss the matter.

A former pastor in Buenos Aires, Andres Albertsen, also claimed that Francis once used similar language to describe his stance on civil unions. In a private meeting, he told CNN, the pontiff, prior to becoming pope, was candid.

“In this conversation that we had, he showed himself to be very open, very frank with me,” Albertsen said. “He told me that he would have accepted a civil union.”

In contrast to these claims, Francis has made many public claims against same-sex marriage in the past, though he has delivered compassionate statements about priests with same-sex attraction and homosexuality more generally.

Francis also addressed a number of other controversial issues in the Corriere della Sera interview, including contraception, the church’s ban on divorced Catholics receiving holy communion and the role of women in ministry, stressing the importance of deep reflection on all issues.

He acknowledged that the sex abuse scandal has left many people “wounded,” though he defended the church’s record of taking action after allegations of abuse spread.

And as for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, rather than pursuing a shuttered life, it seems Francis has decided that it is important to include him in church activities, calling Benedict a “wise grandfather.”

“The pope emeritus is not a statue in a museum,” Francis said. “I thought about grandparents who with their wisdom, their advice, strengthen families and don’t deserve to end up in an old folks home.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/05/pope-francis-reportedly-hints-that-catholic-church-could-tolerate-some-gay-civil-unions/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 05, 2014, 08:30:58 pm
Saying civil unions isn't same-sex marriage is a lot like saying someone who is just a "little" pregnant isn't pregnant at all.

Either way you spin it, sodomy is sodomy - you can't repackage something pure evil and make it look even decent.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 06, 2014, 07:37:29 am
Pope reveals he took his late confessor's cross

Franks a thief

Pope Francis confessed Thursday that he took the rosary cross of his late confessor from his casket and wears it to this day in a fabric pouch under his cassock. He said he did so telling the late priest, "Give me half your mercy."

Francis made the revelation Thursday during an informal chat with Roman priests about the need to be merciful to their flocks. He told the story of the "great confessor" of Buenos Aires who had heard confessions from most of the diocesan priests as well as from Pope John Paul II when he visited Argentina.

When the priest died, Francis went to pray by his open casket and was stunned that no one had brought any flowers.

`'This man forgave the sins of all the priests of Buenos Aires, but not a single flower ...?" Francis recalled. So he went out and bought a bouquet of roses, and when he returned to arrange them around the casket, he saw the rosary the priest still held in his hand.

"And immediately there came to mind the thief we all have inside ourselves and while I arranged the flowers I took the cross and with just a bit of force I removed it," he said, showing with his hands how he pulled the cross off the rosary. "And in that moment I looked at him and I said `Give me half your mercy.'"

Francis said he kept the cross in his shirt pocket for years, but that the cassock he wears now as pope doesn't have a pocket. He now keeps it in a little pouch underneath.

"And whenever a bad thought comes to mind about someone, my hand goes here, always," he said, gesturing to his heart. "And I feel the grace, and that makes me feel better."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_POPES_CROSS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-06-07-18-38


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 06, 2014, 04:36:34 pm
So I guess since the pope now admits to being a petty thief, that makes it okay.  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 07, 2014, 11:36:52 am
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-03-07/pope-francis-is-listening?cmpid=yhoo
3/7/14
Pope Francis Is Listening

The Pew Research Center poll released yesterday showing that American Catholics strongly favor allowing the use of birth control -- and allowing priests to marry and women to be ordained -- comes as no surprise. It has long been thus. Catholics also continue to give high marks to His Humbleness, Pope Francis, whose approval rating remains in the mid-80s, unchanged from a year ago. Even the fact that half of Catholics think the church should recognize same-sex marriage is old news, given past polls.

The more interesting news came earlier in the week, on Ash Wednesday, when an interview with Francis was published in which he revealed his willingness -- even eagerness -- to re-examine these kinds of cultural flash points.

Asked about the role of women, the pope declared that they "must be more present in places of decision-making in the church." You could almost hear the nuns cheering. He also said he is reading a book "on the feminine dimension of the church." When was the last time you heard a local bishop say that?

On birth control, Francis noted that Pope Paul VI, whose encyclical "Humanae Vitae" formalized the church's ban on artificial contraception, recommended "much mercy" on those who use it. He said the challenge was to ensure that pastoral ministry "take into account the situations and that which it is possible for people to do." His reluctance to judge, which sent tremors through the church last summer, was on display again.

Francis has called a synod for October -- only the third of its kind since the 1960s -- to focus on family matters, and in the interview he declared that birth control will be a topic for discussion, as will divorce. Last month, German Cardinal Walter Kasper delivered an address raising the issue of divorced Catholics who remarry, asking if it wasn't "perhaps an exploitation of the person" to bar them from receiving communion. Francis called it a "beautiful and profound presentation" and welcomed the intense discussion it generated among the cardinals.

This is a pope who isn't afraid to stir the pot -- inviting diverging opinions to be heard on matters that some would prefer to consider settled. We're used to popes declaring answers. Francis poses questions.

When I was a student at the University of Notre Dame in the 1990s, I remember attending a lecture on the life of the church by Professor Charles E. Rice, then dean of the law school, in which he responded to questions about controversial social issues by saying: It depends on whether you believe the pope is God's messenger "or a guy in Rome who wears a funny hat." Translation: Stop asking questions.

It was a theologically bankrupt answer, but it's the kind of message that Catholics have long been accustomed to hearing. Last fall, in preparation for the upcoming synod, the Vatican sent a questionnaire to every Catholic diocese in the world inviting opinions on controversial issues, including birth control, divorce, cohabitation outside of marriage and married priests. The response from Catholic America, as elsewhere, was almost disbelief. Who, us?

In some countries bishops posted the questionnaire online and encouraged public participation. But old habits die hard, and most American bishops chose to distribute the questionnaire only to the diocesan priests' council or parish councils, not all parishioners and the public. Francis, whom we know is a fan of the Internet, may want to check the results against the Pew poll.

Either way, he has done more than raise hopes among Catholics for doctrinal change, which will be slow in coming. He has shown us that Rome -- or at least the top guy in the funny hat -- can listen.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 09, 2014, 05:33:23 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-dolan-gay-marriage-150312090.html
Pope Francis wants church to study civil unions, Cardinal Dolan says
3/9/14

Pope Francis wants the Catholic Church to study same-sex unions, Cardinal Timothy Dolan said on NBC's "Meet The Press" on Sunday.

According to Dolan, Francis wants church leaders to "look into it and see the reasons that have driven them."

"It wasn't as if he came out and approved them,"  Dolan said.  "He said, 'Rather than quickly condemn them, let's just ask the questions as to why [gay marriage has] appealed to certain people."

In an interview published last week by an Italian newspaper, Francis reiterated the church's longstanding opinion that "marriage is between a man and a woman." But, he said, "We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety."

The Vatican moved quickly to clarify the comments.

"The Pope did not choose to enter into debates about the delicate matter of gay civil unions," Rev. Thomas Rosica, a consultant to the Vatican press office, said in a statement. "We should not try to read more into the Pope’s words than what has been stated in very general terms."

But according to the Catholic News Service, it was the first time a  pope has "indicated even tentative acceptance of civil unions."

When asked for his own views on same-sex marriage, Dolan said he is concerned it could "water down" the sanctity of traditional marriage.

"It's not something that's just a religious, sacramental concern," Dolan said. "It's also the building block of society and culture. So it belongs to culture. And if we water down that sacred meaning of marriage in any way, I worry that not only the church would suffer, I worry that culture and society would.”

Dolan was also asked about Michael Sam, the Univ. of Missouri football player, likely an NFL draft pick, who recently came out as gay.

"Good for him," Dolan said. "I would have no sense of judgment on him. God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same bible that tells us that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo
.'"

Since being installed as pontiff in 2013, Francis has changed the tone coming out of Rome from one of exclusion to inclusion, irking some conservative Catholics in the process.

"I haven't sensed too much bristling among the conservatives," Dolan said. "They honestly will say, 'His style is a little different and might periodically cause us a little angst.' But in general they too seem to be rejoicing in what you might call the evangelical fervor, the good interest in the life of the church."

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Again, don't let the term "civil unions" fool you - what they're really saying is that it's OK to be a "little" pregnant.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on March 10, 2014, 06:22:44 am
"Good for him," Dolan said. "I would have no sense of judgment on him. God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same bible that tells us that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo.'"

1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

John 7:24  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 10, 2014, 01:57:52 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-man-won-over-world-five-minutes-023049004.html
Pope Francis: the man who won over the world in five minutes
3/9/14

Paris (AFP) - Five minutes. That's all it took to make papal history.

Never has a leader of the Roman Catholic Church become as popular in as short a time as Pope Francis did when he humbly asked the crowd gathered in St Peter's Square on March 13 last year to pray for him.

A year on, Francis, known for his gentle smile and infectious energy, has won over hearts worldwide. Admirers from Manila to Mexico fondly remember his first appearance on the balcony in the Vatican when he began with the simple greeting, "Good evening."

Maria Angelica Largo, a 50-year-old from Colombia, said she "immediately felt he was closer to the people, more simple and more human."

"We have never seen a pope become so popular in just a couple of minutes," said Odon Vallet, a French historian and an expert on religion.

The Argentine-born pope's humble and homespun style -- he likes to mingle with the crowds -- also bowled over Roger Kouassi, a teacher in the west African country of Ivory Coast for whom the main thing is that "Francis is closer to the people."

On Twitter too, the 77-year-old pontiff has built up a following of millions of people and his messages are re-tweeted more than those of tech-savvy US President Barack Obama.

Francis became the first non-European pope in nearly 1,300 years when he was elected by the College of Cardinals a year ago Thursday to succeed Benedict XVI, who chose to retire and is now pope emeritus.

Over the past year, Francis has won accolades and plaudits for powerful gestures such as washing the feet of young Muslim inmates, embracing the handicapped and asking that gay people not be judged.

- Being Catholic is 'in' -

In France, where only three percent of Catholics are identified as practising their religion, priests say there has been an increase in church attendance since Pope Francis' election.

"Before it was 'uncool' to be Catholic, now it's 'in'," said Vallet.

Still the man who was born Jorge Mario Bergoglio has to walk a tight rope in his papacy.

Among his challenges are the thorny issues of marriage for priests and overhauling the Vatican's coffers after a string of scandals, including allegations of waste, corruption and even money-laundering.

And the world's 1.2 billion Catholics are grappling with sensitive and often divisive issues, such as homosexuality and abortion.

In comments that made waves around the world, Francis last July famously asked: "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?".

Gay rights groups cautiously welcomed the words as a change in tone, but warned they did not reflect a shift in Catholic Church policy -- and certainly not a move towards accepting same-sex marriage.

"If homosexuals want to marry, they can do so in a civil ceremony but we cannot change the Church of Christ to suit one's tastes," said Aurora Gomez, a Catholic in Mexico.

On the other side of the Pacific in the world's fourth largest Catholic country, Filipino Nona Andaya-Castillo said she would back moves to ease Church policies on homosexuality.

But living in one of the few countries where abortion is still illegal, the 52-year-old added she opposed any moves to soften the Church's stance on that issue.

Although no one has expected Francis to make radical changes in doctrine, the pope has shown a willingness to encourage greater understanding and pastoral care of Christians who are divorced, single mothers, or homosexuals.

"The simple humanity of Francis has worked its charm," said Gilda Rey, a Catholic from the southern French city of Toulouse.

"He doesn't hesitate to mingle with the crowds or even celebrate Saint Valentine's Day. He's a very fraternal pope."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 13, 2014, 01:51:51 pm
.@SpeakerBoehner invites Pope Francis @Pontifex to address a Joint Meeting of Congress.Statement describes it as "an open invitation."



House Democratic Leader @NancyPelosi says she is "pleased to join @SpeakerBoehner in inviting his Holiness" to address Congress. @Pontifex


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2014, 05:54:39 pm
.@SpeakerBoehner invites Pope Francis @Pontifex to address a Joint Meeting of Congress.Statement describes it as "an open invitation."



House Democratic Leader @NancyPelosi says she is "pleased to join @SpeakerBoehner in inviting his Holiness" to address Congress. @Pontifex


So is Francis coming to this for sure? Or is it just a mere invite for now?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2014, 07:44:50 pm
Raw: Vatican Releases New Pope Stamps, Coins
Associated Press Videos 0:48 mins

To mark the anniversary of Pope Francis' first year as pontiff, the Vatican released a new series of coins and stamps that carry the face of "the People's Pope." (March 13)
https://news.yahoo.com/video/raw-vatican-releases-pope-stamps-203126897.html


Wow...that was quick! :o


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on March 13, 2014, 08:19:25 pm
Raw: Vatican Releases New Pope Stamps, Coins
Associated Press Videos 0:48 mins

To mark the anniversary of Pope Francis' first year as pontiff, the Vatican released a new series of coins and stamps that carry the face of "the People's Pope." (March 13)
https://news.yahoo.com/video/raw-vatican-releases-pope-stamps-203126897.html


Wow...that was quick! :o

Yeah, that was pretty quick...

Did Benedict get his own coin?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2014, 10:03:17 pm
Yeah, that was pretty quick...

Did Benedict get his own coin?

No, it is just Francis - BTW, I just finished your presentation on Obama/Antichrist Conspiracy. Will post my thoughts on it in its respective thread - but I will say this - all the manipulation of the focus strictly on Obama has all but took everyone's eyes off the elephant in the room...no, I'm not saying its Francis, BUT nonetheless b/c of this, Francis' comments and attitudes have all but been pushed to the backburner b/c of it.

I mean Francis has said some eyepopping things(ie-Capitalism is tyranny, gay priests are OK if they do the will of God, atheists are saved if they do good works, etc) that Obama has NEVER said.

IOW, don't ignore the elephant in the room!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 14, 2014, 03:32:59 am
Everybody keeps talking about the Antichrist, but they never mention the False Prophet, which is who needs to be considered when talking about the Vatican. Remember, it's the False Prophet that does all kinds of miracles and such in the presence of the AC, and ultimately is the one who causes the people worship the AC.

The real elephant in the room is the False Prophet.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 14, 2014, 05:53:12 am
So is Francis coming to this for sure? Or is it just a mere invite for now?

John Boehner Invites Pope Francis To Address Congress

As Pope Francis celebrated his one-year anniversary on Thursday, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) announced that an open invitation has been extended to him to address a joint session of Congress.

According to a statement from the speaker's office, the event would be an "excellent opportunity for the American people as well as the nations of the world to hear his message in full."

Read Boehner's full statement below:

   
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“It is with reverence and admiration that I have invited Pope Francis, as head of state of the Holy See and the first Pope to hail from the Americas, to address a joint meeting of the United States Congress.

    “Pope Francis has inspired millions of Americans with his pastoral manner and servant leadership, challenging all people to lead lives of mercy, forgiveness, solidarity, and humble service.

    “His tireless call for the protection of the most vulnerable among us—the ailing, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the impoverished, the unborn—has awakened hearts on every continent.

    “His social teachings, rooted in ‘the joy of the gospel,’ have prompted careful reflection and vigorous dialogue among people of all ideologies and religious views in the United States and throughout a rapidly changing world, particularly among those who champion human dignity, freedom, and social justice.

    “These principles are among the fundamentals of the American Idea. And though our nation sometimes fails to live up to these principles, at our best we give them new life as we seek the common good. Many in the United States believe these principles are undermined by ‘crony capitalism’ and the ongoing centralization of political power in the institutions of our federal government, which threaten to disrupt the delicate balance between the twin virtues of subsidiarity and solidarity. They have embraced Pope Francis’ reminder that we cannot meet our responsibility to the poor with a welfare mentality based on business calculations. We can meet it only with personal charity on the one hand and sound, inclusive policies on the other.

    “The Holy Father’s pastoral message challenges people of all faiths, ideologies and political parties. His address as a visiting head of state before a joint meeting of the House and Senate would honor our nation in keeping with the best traditions of our democratic institutions. It would also offer an excellent opportunity for the American people as well as the nations of the world to hear his message in full.

    “It is with deep gratitude that I have asked Pope Francis to consider this open invitation on behalf of the Congress and the millions of citizens of the United States we serve.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/john-boehner-pope-francis_n_4958522.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 14, 2014, 10:56:27 am
OK thanks!

Well, we will see...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 14, 2014, 12:16:03 pm
Well John, if Frank doesn't show, maybe you can get some local witch doctor from the Amazon instead. Same difference!  ::)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 15, 2014, 07:28:11 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/rock-star-pope-francis-putting-people-pews-195551321.html
Is 'rock star' Pope Francis putting people in the pews?

Almost a year since his installation, the pope's popularity doesn't seem to have improved attendance in American Catholic churches.

3/6/14

Almost one year after taking up the reins of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis is unquestionably a media sensation.

He has appeared on numerous magazine covers – including the Monitor's own, for a story I wrote in October. He cemented his “rock star” status with his appearance on the front of February's Rolling Stone magazine. He can even add "centerfold" to his list of accomplishments, thanks to a new glossy magazine entitled "Il Mio Papa," or "My Pope," released in Italy yesterday, Ash Wednesday, and featuring photos, articles, and a pull-out poster dedicated to the pontiff.

But whatever the media might think of him, there's a more important issue for the church: Is the pope drawing believers back into the flock?

A new poll released today says the answer – at least in the US – is "not really."

According to the Pew Research Center Religion & Public Life, while the pope's popularity ratings are sky high, it has not translated to any difference in church attendance in the past year among American Catholics.

John Allen Jr., a longtime Vatican observer for the National Catholic Reporter (NCR), told me in October, that the new pope, in his efforts to downplay the ideological divides on culture war issues and live a more humble life, was appealing to the Catholic “middle” – that is, members of the laity who think of themselves as "Catholic" but felt alienated from the church over the church's position on gays, contraception, or the like.

"He wants to project a more merciful and compassionate face of the church," says Mr. Allen. "That is the agenda of the Catholic middle."

But whether that means a Catholic middle will start filling the pews is another question. As Allen explained to me then: “John Paul II electrified people across the globe in 1978 too. He was this John Wayne figure, a man’s man with this swagger, taking control of the world’s oldest [institution]. He was a media rock star in his time too. While that had a lot of impact, revitalizing the church and giving it new energy, it by itself did not stem the long-term decline of Catholicism in the world.”

The Pew figures show that Pope Francis, despite the expectations he has unleashed, might offer a similar legacy, although Thomas Reese, an NCR senior analyst, has a more positive take. “This could be interpreted as showing that Francis has had no impact,” he writes in an NCR blog today. “On the other hand, since church attendance has been declining since the 1950s, the fact that it did not go down could be considered a victory.”

**Since the 50's? It seems like ALOT of aspects concerning the "church"(all "denominations", that is) have gone downhill since - 501c3, false perverted bible versions, CCM, ecumenicism, etc. Also, NOT ALL "church" sectors have been going down in attendance - the megachurches have been increasing in it. Pt being that the pews over time have jumped ship from one reprobate entity(Catholicism, SBC, etc) to another reprobate entity(megachurches).

The pope himself opened up this week about the “mythology” recently built around him. He said he didn't like it, in an interview published in Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper Wednesday.

"To depict the pope as a sort of superman, a sort of star, seems offensive to me," he said. "The pope is a man who laughs, cries, sleeps tranquilly and has friends like everyone else, a normal person."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 16, 2014, 03:23:24 am
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Almost a year since his installation, the pope's popularity doesn't seem to have improved attendance in American Catholic churches.

 :D Gee, I wonder why? Oh wait, it's because it's Catholic, and here in the US, Catholic priests aren't exactly looked on with respect these days due to all the **** perverts out there.

I'm sure there are some redeeming qualities within the Catholic cult, I just haven't found any.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 16, 2014, 05:41:57 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/gay-bishop-prayer-francis-104500930--politics.html
A Gay Bishop’s Prayer for Francis

By Gene Robinson
11 hours ago
 
The Daily Beast
 
I love this new pope. I pray for him every day—for his ministry, his safety, and the daunting tasks that lay before him. I like all the connotations of “Francis,” the papal name he took, conjuring the saint whose humility, sympathy for the fragile condition of humankind, and his commitment to the poor still are both exemplary and legendary.

But I am under no illusions that the journey ahead will be easy for this new pope, assuming that he continues to move in the directions he has thus far signaled.  And let’s be clear:  Pope Francis has, so far, only changed the tenor and tone of the voice of the Church he leads. That is no small thing, of course, when most Catholics and non-Catholics alike experienced his predecessor as aloof, hierarchical, and pretentious.

Perhaps most dramatic in that change of tone came in his question, after he was asked about gay priests: “Who am I to judge?” Who indeed?  His immediate predecessors seemed not to hesitate in heaping judgment on homosexuals, women (especially those who made the excruciating decision to have an abortion), the divorced, and a vast array of people who fell short of the Vatican’s moral ideal (exempting at times, of course, members of the Church’s own clergy and hierarchy from those same ideals).

How odd that the leader of the Catholic Church would make big news, espousing an attitude promoted by Jesus of Nazareth himself. Jesus dramatically lived out the command to “judge not,” so why would it be such news when his followers (not to mention the Pope!) would follow in his humble, non-judgmental footsteps?!  It is only a newsworthy development because there had been little evidence of non-judgmental and loving acceptance by his predecessors.

In other words, so far, so good—but it is only a good beginning. The hard work lies ahead: There is more to the Christian enterprise than merely being more kind, more sympathetic.

One of my favorite old sayings goes like this:  “It’s not enough to pull drowning people out of a raging stream; we must walk back upstream, and see who is throwing them in in the first place!”  Charity (pulling people out of whatever raging stream they’re in, like poverty, disease, discrimination, hunger) is a great and cherished tradition. Nothing wrong with it—as far as it goes. In addition to rescue and charity work, people of faith—indeed all who long for justice—must also do the hard, systemic work of changing the systems that cause and trap people in demeaning, dehumanizing conditions in the first place.  Some of those oppressive systems are found in the Church itself! Not just the pope’s church, but my church and every religious community of believers.

If Pope Francis is to be believed in all the kindly pronouncements of his first year (and I do), his good tone should be followed by the tough work of changing the systems of belief, doctrine and religious practice which perpetuate the victimization of those he seeks to serve. It is a small step forward to say of homosexuals, “Who am I to judge?”  Yet the official teaching of the Catholic Church is that homosexuals are “intrinsically disordered.”  Not a lot of wriggle room in that, is there?  That judgment and teaching about LGBT people is the basis for discrimination, rejection and violence the world over. It is fine to verbally decry the ecclesial “circle the wagons” approach to the child sexual abuse exposed in the last two decades, but real commitment to the safety of vulnerable children will require the Church to take steps to value and protect those children over the careers and reputations of its abusing priests.  Positive comments about the contributions of women in and to the Church sound fine, but what is needed is a long, hard look at its entire approach to human sexuality and gender which still treats its female adherents as “less than.”

I do not mean to be uncharitable here, nor naive. Such systemic overhaul of an institution that has existed for the better part of two millennia cannot and will not happen overnight, if it is seriously tried at all. Under the leadership of Pope Francis, the Church may have the best chance at giving it a serious try since the Second Vatican Council under Pope John XXIII.  But the Vatican Curia was there before he was elected pope, and it will be there long after his ministry ends.  There will be resistance to any change, much less the kind of change to which Francis’s humble ways point.  Over the years, we have learned what happens to people who are just too good for us!  But this pope seems to know that sacrifice is part of the deal of living with God.

I hope this pope keeps surprising and delighting us, sitting a boy in his papal chair and allegedly sneaking out of the Vatican at night to work with the homeless!  I hope he continues to show us the mind of Christ by his acts of humility and compassion. I pray that he persists in eschewing luxury and pretension. And I pray that he will stay close to the Son of God he is supposed to represent on earth, despite the institution’s every effort to tame their new leader and rob him of his pizazz.

The Catholic Church is a mighty big ship to turn around, even with a beautiful, charismatic, and inspiring captain at the helm. But God is good, and God will be at Francis’ side as he challenges the Church to live up to its lofty, humble, servant values. Like I said, I pray for him every day.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 22, 2014, 04:44:20 pm
Typical of these minions - first they have the outward appearance of doing something ignorantly, then they stir up their respective flock's emotions, then they come to a "realization" saying "I was wrong about this..."...pretty much that's how they manipulate their followers.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-leagues-bill-donohue-will-not-be-marching-in-ny-gay-pride-parade-with-straight-is-great-banner-116602/
Catholic League's Bill Donohue Will Not Be Marching in NY Gay Pride Parade With 'Straight Is Great' Banner
3/22/14

Catholic League President Bill Donohue said that he will not be marching in New York City's gay pride parade with a "straight is great" banner as he initially requested, after objecting to the organizers' rules.

"For the past few days I have been engaged in an e-mail conversation with officials from the Heritage of Pride parade, New York's annual gay event; the dialogue has been cordial. I asked to join the parade under a banner that would read, "Straight is Great." The purpose of my request was to see just how far they would go without forcing me to abide by their rules. It didn't take long before they did," Donohue explained in a statement on Friday, following a request for comments by The Christian Post.

"Today, I informed Heritage of Pride officials that I objected to their rule requiring me to attend gay training sessions, or what they call 'information' sessions. 'I don't agree with your rule,' I said. They responded by saying that attendance was 'mandatory.'"

Donohue explained that just like the Heritage of Pride has its own rules, so does the St. Patrick's Day parade, which bars groups from marching under their own banner.

Last week, several sponsors pulled out of St. Patrick's Day parades, including The Boston Beer Company and Guinness, in objection to organizers refusing to allow groups to express their homosexuality while marching in the event.

"Guinness has a strong history of supporting diversity and being an advocate for equality for all. We were hopeful that the policy of exclusion would be reversed for this year's parade. As this has not come to pass, Guinness has withdrawn its participation," the brewing company said in a statement on Sunday.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio also publicly announced that he would not be participating in the city's parade because of his objection to the regulations.

"I will be participating in a number of other events to honor the Irish heritage of this city," de Blasio said at a press conference. "But I simply disagree with the organizers of that parade."

In response to Guinness' decision to boycott the parade, the Catholic League in turn decided to boycott the brewing company, and created an online petition.

"Guinness is showing its disrespect for diversity, its support for intolerance, and its contempt for the First Amendment rights of everyone associated with the St. Patrick's Day parade," the petition states
.

Pro-LGBT group GLAAD welcomed Donohue's initial request to participate in the NYC Pride parade in June, calling it a "drastic change" for him on Thursday.

"As a fellow Irish New Yorker, I'm hoping Bill will march with me at NYC Pride," said GLAAD President and CEO Sarah Kate Ellis. "I look forward to the day when I can march openly with Bill in the NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade, and not be turned away because of who I am."

In Friday's news release, however, Donohue wished good luck to the Heritage of Pride participants in the parade, noting that he will be watching it from afar – without "downing a Guinness afterwards."

"It is hypocritical for gay activists to complain about having to abide by the mandatory rules of the St. Patrick's Day parade, and then inform me that I cannot march in their parade unless I respect their mandatory rules, rules that I reject," the Catholic League president concluded.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 26, 2014, 02:29:50 pm
Winds of change: Italians losing centuries-old grip on Vatican
http://news.yahoo.com/winds-change-italians-losing-centuries-old-grip-vatican-032634219.html
3/25/14

Vatican City (AFP) - A quiet revolution is afoot in the Vatican.

With many of Pope Francis's new appointments, control over the powerful city state is slipping, slowly but surely, from the centuries-old grip of the Italian hierarchy.

Popes may come and go -- and three in a row now have been non-Italian -- but the inner workings of the opaque Vatican bureaucracy, the Curia, have traditionally been the province of Italian apparatchiks.

Like Francis, his predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI found themselves in the midst of back-stabbing and turf wars in the Catholic Church's corridors of power, but they had little appetite for disturbing the hornet's nest.

The world's first Latin American pontiff however has had no such qualms, readily appointing fresh faces from diverse countries -- including lay people and women -- much to the chagrin of the old guard.

Putting himself on what one commentator dubbed a "collision course with the Curia", the Argentine has set up several international committees. The latest, created to root out paedophilia in the Catholic Church, includes only one Italian out of eight.

The same is true of a body that he set up in April last year, just one month into his papacy, to advise him on reforming the Curia -- his council of cardinals, nicknamed the G8.

Foreign cardinals have been awarded prestigious posts, from the Australian George Pell -- head of the new economy ministry -- to Germany's Reinhard Marx, who leads up a council tasked with overseeing the Vatican's economic management.

Marx is assisted by Britain's Brian Ferme and Alfred Xuereb of Malta -- who doubles as the pope's very influential private secretary.

"By entrusting delicate government tasks to hierarchies that are made up mainly of non-Italians who are not resident in Rome, the pope is putting himself on a collision course with the Curia's traditional power," editorialist Ernesto Galli Della Loggia wrote in Italy's leading daily Corriere della Sera.

"What seems to emerge is a plan to concentrate (power) not in Rome, but in his person," he said.

- 'Secret wantonness' -

Galli Della Loggia described what Francis is up against: "A certain shrewdness, an ability to mediate (and) impalpable but enduring influences" but also "ferocious ambition, corruption and careerism and, sometimes, secret wantonness".

Lay people and women -- traditionally underrepresented in the leadership of the 1.2 billion-member Church -- figure increasingly in new committees.

A body tasked with carrying out a detailed inquiry into the Vatican's administration is made up of seven lay people, including a woman, while the new committee on paedophilia includes five lay people -- four of whom are women -- and just one cardinal.

Perhaps the most eye-opening appointment to that panel was that of Marie Collins, an Irish survivor of sexual abuse by a chaplain and an outspoken campaigner for victims' rights.

What is more, instead of dictating the committee's mandate, Francis is confident that "the members can draw on their own actual experiences to define the new organ's remit themselves", according to Marco Politi from Il Fatto Quotidiano.

All this does not mean the pope is giving the Italians the cold shoulder: he has given at least two key posts -- the secretary general of the bishops' assembly and the prefect of the congregation for the clergy -- to trusted Italian prelates.

But those who longed for the 77-year-old to decentralise and diversify power at the highest levels of the Holy See hope Francis will continue as he has begun, ignoring the gnashing of teeth from the ousted old guard.




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Post by: Mark on March 27, 2014, 05:51:55 am
President Obama meeting with Pope Francis at Vatican City - @NBCNewsPresident Obama meeting with Pope Francis at Vatican City - @NBCNews

President Obama arrives in St. Peter's square ahead of his meeting with Pope Francis - @Lavanga

Photo: President Obama meets with Pope Francis at the Vatican - @NBCNews live video


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President Obama Meets Pope Francis At The Vatican

In his first official visit, which began at 10:27 a.m. in Rome, the president and the pope met for about 50 minutes -- longer than many had expected -- before bringing in the rest of the U.S. delegation, including Secretary of State John Kerry, National Security Advisor Susan Rice, and Press Secretary Jay Carney. One by one, the ten members of the delegation were introduced to the pope.

President Obama made the slow, formal procession to greet the Pope in the ornate Small Throne Room outside the Papal Library.

"Wonderful meeting you, I'm a great admirer," the president said. "Thank you sir, thank you."

The two walked into the Papal Library and took seats at opposite sides of the pope's desk.

"It is a great honor. I'm a great admirer," the president said. "Thank you so much for receiving me."

"I bring greetings from my family," Obama added. "The last time I came here to meet your predecessor I was able to bring my wife and children."

The president also presented the pope with a custom-made seed chest featuring a variety of fruit and vegetable seeds used in the White House Garden. The chest is made from American leather and wood from the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

The inscription on the chest reads: "Presented to His Holiness Pope Francis by Barack Obama President of the United States of America, March 27, 2014."

This is Obama's second visit to the Vatican as president but his first with this pope. In 2009, he and First Lady Michelle Obama met Pope Benedict XVI, now pope emeritus. Obama he came bearing a special gift: a stole that covered the remains of St. John Neuman, the first American bishop to be canonized.

Will the Pope return the favor?

Earlier this month, Pope Francis was invited by House Speaker John Boehner to address a joint session of Congress. Boehner extended the formal invitation on Mar. 13 in a letter to the Vatican — on the one-year anniversary of his papacy — saying the Holy Father has "awakened hearts on every continent."

Since Paul VI made his first papal visit to the United States in 1965, three popes have come to America. John Paul II, who came to the United States seven times, visited with every president from Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton.

On Thursday, under an overcast sky, the president's motorcade weaved through this ancient city to be welcomed at the Vatican with great ceremony.

While at first glance, it may not seem that the president and the Pope have much in common, the historic figures share many similarities. The United States' first African American president and the first Latin American pope both exploded onto the global stage, sharing messages of hope and change.

President Obama's stop at the Vatican comes amidst a week-long trip to Europe and the Middle East during which the issue of Russia's incursions into Ukraine have been the key topic of discussion among world leaders.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-meets-pope-francis-vatican/story?id=23077757


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 27, 2014, 10:00:53 am
I wonder if Frankie rebuked Obama for his embracing of abortion. ::)


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 27, 2014, 05:40:59 pm
Video: Obama, Francis Focus on Areas of Agreement
http://news.yahoo.com/video/obama-francis-focus-areas-agreement-203833506.html


Pope to pray with Orthodox patriarch in Jerusalem
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-pray-orthodox-patriarch-jerusalem-173059432.html

Jerusalem (AFP) - Pope Francis will pray side-by-side with Orthodox Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew in Jerusalem in a powerful sign of Christian unity during his May visit to Holy Land, the Vatican said on Thursday.

The prayer will take place in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, built over the spots widely believed to be the sites of the crucifixion, burial and resurrection of Jesus.

The two will also sign a joint declaration when they meet on what will be the 50th anniversary of a visit to Jerusalem by two of their predecessors, Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras.

"We are called to be one, and the pope is coming to remind us of this and renew the spirit of unity and fraternal love," Latin Patriarch Fuad Twal told reporters in Jerusalem as he announced the programme of the pontiff's May 24-26 visit to Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Territories.

During the brief trip, Francis will celebrate Sunday mass in the West Bank city of Bethlehem, where Jesus is believed to have been born.

He will meet Palestinian and Syrian refugees and visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial.

But Twal warned the visit could be jeopardised if a strike by staff at Israel's foreign ministry, demanding better wages and working conditions, is not resolved in time.

"If the strike goes on for two months, I don't think we can make the visit to Israel, but for sure the visit will be done in Jordan and Palestine," said Twal, the Holy Land's senior Roman Catholic prelate.

However, Father David Neuhaus, who represents Hebrew-speaking Catholics in Israel, said the government had pledged the visit would not be affected.

"Israel has given assurances, both from the prime minister's office and from the office of the foreign minister, that the strike will not affect the visit," he said.

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's spokesman confirmed Neuhaus's remarks.

But a spokeswoman for the foreign ministry's labour union insisted that if the strike was not resolved, they would not facilitate the visit.

"As long we are on strike, we are not attending to the Pope’s visit," she told AFP, indicating that a preparatory visit by Vatican officials, due to take place earlier this month, was cancelled because of the industrial action.

Twal also addressed disappointment among Catholics in the Galilee and Nazareth, who had hoped the pope would visit these religiously significant sites in northern Israel, saying he "agreed with them".

"We hope that in the future this visit can take place," the patriarch said.

The Argentine pontiff's predecessor, Benedict XVI, visited Israel and the Palestinian territories in 2009.

Israel and the Vatican first established full diplomatic relations in 1993, but have been engaged in years of thorny diplomatic negotiations over property rights and tax exemptions for the Catholic Church, which have yet to be fully resolved.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Kilika on March 28, 2014, 04:54:10 am
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"We are called to be one, and the pope is coming to remind us of this

Sorry, we already know about it. The book of Revelation has a real good explanation about that call to be "one". That whole unity thing fails, badly!


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 03, 2014, 10:50:29 am
http://news.yahoo.com/two-sovereigns-rome-queen-elizabeth-ii-visits-pope-023246780.html
4/3/14
Queen meets Pope Francis for first time

Vatican City (AFP) - Queen Elizabeth II met Pope Francis for the first time on Thursday on a visit that coincides with the anniversary of the Falklands War and is also the 87-year-old monarch's first foreign trip since 2011.

Dressed in lilac and clutching a bouquet of flowers, the queen smiled as she arrived at Ciampino airport, shaking hands with dignitaries on the red carpet.

She and her husband Prince Philip then had lunch with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano at the Quirinale Palace, where they were greeted with a military salute and crowds of supporters, some waving Union Jack flags.

Wearing one of her trademark hats decorated with flowers, and with a black purse over her arm to match her shoes, the monarch looked pleased to see the 88-year-old president.

The British royals were then seen arriving at the Vatican for the private audience with Francis in a room next to the Paul VI auditorium in the Vatican, with hundreds of people cheering as their car drove in.

The queen's talks with the Argentine pope come a day after the 32nd anniversary of the start of the Falklands War between Britain and Argentina and come amid thorny Anglican-Catholic relations.

But British officials have played down the prospect of any contentious issues on the agenda as the queen, the "supreme governor" of the Church of England, holds talks with the head of the world's Catholics.

Britain's ambassador to the Holy See Nigel Baker told Vatican radio that there had been "extraordinary" progress in Britain-Vatican and Anglican-Catholic relations since the Queen's coronation in 1952.

"She will want I think to understand from Pope Francis how he sees the role of faith in the world," he said.

On the Falklands War, he said: "The Vatican has been clear with us, including in the last week and at a very senior level, that their long-standing position of neutrality on this issue remains in force".

Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi said the meeting was "very informal".

Francis will be the fifth pope the queen has met, starting with Pius XII in 1951 when she was still a princess.

She has also met John XXIII, John Paul II and pope emeritus Benedict XVI, who stepped down last year.

- 'White smoke over Falklands' -

The couple's last foreign trip was to Australia in 2011, and the one-day visit will last only a few hours, without much of the pomp usually associated with royal travel to avoid tiring the ageing royals.

While the talks are likely to be purely formal, Anglican-Catholic ties are an issue because of resentment in Britain over the Vatican's move to bring conservative Anglican priests who dissented from the Church of England over female ordination.

But relations between Pope Francis and the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, the spiritual leader of the Church of England, are cordial and the two met in 2013 and are expected to hold talks later this year.

The Anglican church, which separated from Rome in the 16th century, has around 80 million faithful compared with the world's 1.2 billion Catholics.

Another potentially divisive issue is over the British-ruled Falkland Islands -- referred to in Argentina as the Malvinas -- to which Latin America's first pope has shown he is sensitive by once referring to them as "ours" before becoming pope.

He also said Britain had "usurped" the islands.

Francis last month met a group of 12 Argentine war veterans holding a placard for "peace in the South Atlantic" during a general audience in St Peter's Square.

Argentine forces invaded the islands on April 2, 1982, but were forced to surrender in June after British forces recaptured them in fighting that left 649 Argentinians, 255 British and three islanders dead.

Following Pope Francis's election last year, British Prime Minister David Cameron said he "respectfully" disagreed with the pope, after a referendum, also in 2013, in which 99.8 percent of Falkland Islanders voted in favour of remaining British.

"The white smoke over the Falklands was pretty clear," he quipped -- a reference to the smoke signal used by cardinals in the Sistine Chapel to show that a new pope has been elected.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 10, 2014, 08:38:51 am
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CRAZY! Pope Francis to Be Seen Worldwide In 3D on April 27th!

http://news.yahoo.com/francis-looks-heal-church-two-pope-saints-104505690.html;_ylt=A0LEVxBjmUZTZHIAK2BXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0OWZnM2hxBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1NNRTM5OF8x
Francis looks to heal Church with two pope saints
4/10/14

Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis aims to unite conservative and reformist strands of Catholicism with the first canonisation of two popes this month -- an impressive masterstroke that has already stirred dissent in some quarters.

Conferring sainthood on John XXIII and John Paul II means bringing together two distinct schools of thought on what a pope should be -- a humble parish priest figure or a globetrotting, charismatic superstar.

John Allen, a Vatican affairs expert at the Boston Globe in the United States, has written that the joint canonisation shows Francis's "inclusive spirit".

"Francis is speaking not just to the outside world but to rival camps within the Catholic fold who see John XXIII and John Paul II as their heroes -- meaning liberals and conservatives, respectively," he said.

Just a few months into his reign, Francis broke with tradition last year by dramatically propelling the canonisation case for John XXIII -- known as "Good Pope John" and a pontiff with whom he shares similarities.

Less widely known than Poland's Karol Wojtyla, Italy's Angelo Roncalli played a key role in modernising Catholicism in the 1960s and to this day inspires progressives who want a more down-to-earth Church.

- 'Sainthood now!' -

The two popes will be canonised together in St Peter's Basilica on April 27, with many pilgrims -- anything from hundreds of thousands to a few million -- expected.

Rome city authorities are deploying thousands of police officers and setting up four giant screens in the city centre so pilgrims can follow the canonisation mass.

Pope emeritus Benedict XVI, who last year became the first pontiff to resign since the Middle Ages, could also attend, meaning two living and two deceased popes would be present at the historic ceremony.

Enthusiasts can follow the action on the dedicated website www.2papisanti.org which has even been coming out with daily vignettes depicting the two popes preparing for sainthood as comic-book characters.

While sainthood appeared a foregone conclusion for John Paul II from the moment a vast crowd of mourners chanted "Santo Subito!" (Sainthood Now!) at his funeral in 2005, the result for John XXIII was less obvious.

With his canonisation announcement in July 2013, Francis confirmed two miracles attributed to John Paul II in the traditional procedure for sainthood, but crucially skipped a step for John XXIII.

Francis declared the Italian pope, who only had one supposed miraculous healing to his name, so widely venerated already that he did not need a second miracle -- a rare loophole under Catholic Church rules.

"It highlights the fact that the devotion was not very widespread", said Marco Tosatti, a Vatican expert for the La Stampa daily, suggesting that fewer people praying to John XXIII meant less chance of miracles.

"He wanted to make someone he really likes a saint."

The move has irritated Wojtyla's Polish fans who say it overshadows their hero -- a divisive figure who critics say turned a blind eye to paedophile priests and waged a campaign against leftist clergymen.

Vatican conservatives have also expressed concern about bending the rules on sainthood, seeing this as the latest example of maverick behaviour from a pope who has shown impatience with tradition.

- Political flair -

Bergoglio has frequently expressed admiration for John XXIII, a former Vatican diplomat known as the driving force behind the reformist Vatican II Council.

He has also eulogized -- although less often -- John Paul II as a "missionary" and a "tireless preacher".

Vatican experts say that the double canonisation shows "political flair" by Pope Francis but it remains to be seen whether his efforts to unite Catholicism pay off.

Experts also point to some similarities between John XXIII and John Paul II, who both showed a tradition-breaking style tempered with conservatism on doctrine -- similar to Pope Francis.

But expert Bruno Bartoloni said John Paul II's fame overshadows that of John XXIII so much that the latter could end up being "a bit of a detail" at the ceremony.

"There was a veneration in Italy, he was extremely popular. Taxi drivers used to have his image on their dashboards! But now that generation is gone," he said.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 18, 2014, 12:15:29 pm
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A Moment of Reconciliation for Catholics

Two popes who differed on the Second Vatican Council become saints a half century later.
   
4/17/14

If Pope Francis follows tradition, he will not deliver a homily when he celebrates Easter Mass in St. Peter's Square on Sunday. Rather, after Mass has ended he will read a message "Urbi et Orbi"—to the city of Rome and to the world—to commemorate Christ's resurrection by calling for peace and reconciliation around the globe. The address is typically among the pope's most quoted speeches of the year.

But this time, the most important day of the Catholic Church's liturgical calendar may feel like a prelude to an even more spectacular celebration the following Sunday. On April 27, Pope Francis will add Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II to the church's canon of saints. The event presents an opportunity to send a message of peace and reconciliation not only to the nations of the world, but also to a church still recovering from decades of discord.

More than a million pilgrims will travel to Rome to attend the canonization ceremonies in St. Peter's Square. Hundreds of millions will watch at home or in movie theaters around the world, and the Vatican is broadcasting the images in 3-D. Francis' predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, is expected to make a rare public appearance.

The canonization comes at an important moment in church history, the 50th anniversary of the Second Vatican Council, a series of meetings held by the church's bishops in Rome between 1962-65. The double induction will inevitably remind Catholics of that epochal event, which was essential to the pontificates of both men, though in markedly different ways.

Pope John called Vatican II in 1959 because he had come to the "conviction that something ought to be done in order to make the church more responsive to this modern world, in order to make the modern world more responsive to the church," according to Jesuit Father Ladislas Orsy, one of the council's official theologians. Or, as Pope John famously put it, he wanted to open the church's windows and let in some fresh air. Initiating Vatican II was by far the most consequential action of his pontificate, though he died in 1963 after the first of the council's four sessions.

Pope John Paul attended the entire council as a young bishop, making major contributions to the 1965 document "Gaudium Et Spes," which dealt with the church in the modern world. He argued that Catholics could better engage secular culture if they approached it more sympathetically. He was also a supporter of the council's declaration on religious freedom, and he furthered the council's aim of world-wide evangelical outreach by traveling to 129 countries during his pontificate. But he also made it his job to correct what he viewed as deviations from the council—including dissent in religious orders—that some had justified by appealing to an expansive spirit of Vatican II.

Catholic life looked and felt dramatically different in the years after the council. Mass was now held in modern languages rather than Latin, many nuns moved from convents to apartments and traded habits for ordinary clothes, and lay people took on expanded roles in parish life. Some issues that the council did not address—contraception, sexuality, celibacy, among others—have since grown more controversial.

Most Catholics now feel at home in the post-conciliar church, but vocal minorities continue to debate the legacy of Vatican II, and these arguments color how they view the soon-to-be sainted popes. Some conservative Catholics think Pope John acted with good intentions but ushered in an era of confusion that lingers today. Not a few progressives, on the other hand, regard the pontificates of John Paul and Benedict as a 35-year campaign to roll back the council's reforms.

Pope Benedict, who served as a theological adviser during the council and later as John Paul's top doctrinal official, stressed the continuity of the council's innovations with the church's traditions. At an October 2012 Mass marking the golden anniversary of the council's opening, Pope Benedict said Vatican II had aimed to present "certain and immutable" church teachings in the language of modern culture. This aim, he said, had gone largely unfulfilled amid the "spiritual desertification" of the half century that followed, when many Catholics instead "embraced uncritically the dominant mentality" of secularism.

Pope Francis is likely to offer a more cheerful assessment of Vatican II when he canonizes Popes John and John Paul. More important, he may take the occasion to encourage reconciliation among Catholics divided by their views of the council. But he will not need to address the subject explicitly to send such a message, particularly if Pope Benedict joins him. The church communicates visually as often as verbally, and the sight of a "conservative" pope joining a "progressive" pope to honor two predecessors with such contrasting reputations would be a stirring image of harmony and hope.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 19, 2014, 09:48:28 pm
Disclaimer: The guy who put out this video is Dahboo77 - I'm sure most of you are familiar with this popular YT guy. He's a stone-cold New Ager who pushes doctrines of devils like the ancient astronaut theory(so this is not an endorsement of him).

But nonetheless - this is the only YT video that put up portions of the LIVE Vatican Ishtar mass of them doing this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTyCiGPWA0I


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 24, 2014, 12:03:22 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/24/did-pope-francis-just-call-and-say-divorced-catholics-can-take-communion/
Did Pope Francis just call and say divorced Catholics can take communion?
4/24/14

Inside a home in an Argentine river town called San Lorenzo, a telephone rang. For the next 10 minutes, an ordinary Argentine woman says she spoke to Pope Francis — and that their discussion may signal a profound change for millions of Catholics across the world. Could it be? The Catholic Church has confirmed that the Monday telephone call happened. But it won’t say what it was about.

Either way, Jaqui Lisbona, a dark-haired Argentine woman with a broad smile, says her life has changed.

Her story begins with a problem. Lisbona loved her civil law husband. She had been with him for 19 years. They had two children together and shared a life. They considered themselves staunch Catholics. She and her husband prayed every night and “always” turned to God. “When someone is in a difficult situation, God is the first one to turn to,” she said.

But her husband, Julio Sabetta, had previously been divorced — a fact that, according to church teachings, would restrict him and possibly even her from receiving communion. Lisbona didn’t know what to do. The last time she tried to take the Eucharist was last year, but the local priest not only denied her communion, but also told her she couldn’t go to confession. “[They told me that] when I went home, I resumed a life of sin,” she told the Buenos Aires radio station La Red Am910.

Distraught, she “spontaneously” wrote down her concerns about “violating church rules” – and shipped the letter off to the Vatican for Pope Francis. “I wrote to him because he’s Argentinean, he listens to people and I believe in miracles,” she said.

Six months passed. Then on Monday, the phone chirped at her San Lorenzo home. Her husband answered it. On the other end was someone who identified himself as “Father Bergoglio” — and he was asking to speak with Lisbona. “My husband asked, ‘Who’s calling?’ The voice replied, ‘Father Bergoglio.’ I asked him if it was really him, the pope, and he said it was and that he was calling in response to my letter dated in September.”

Lisbona claims the pope told her “there was no problem” with her taking communion, and that he was “dealing with the issue” of remarried divorcees, the Vatican Insider reports. ”He said my letter was useful in helping him address this issue…. Then he told me there are some priests who are more papist than the pope.”

The Vatican declined to comment on Wednesday but doesn’t deny that the phone call occurred. The Vatican considers the pope’s personal phone calls to individuals private, according to the Catholic Reporter. ”It’s between the Pope and the woman,” one spokesman told CNN.

Lisbona’s recollection, if true, marks another sharp departure from tradition for a pope who today is widely recognized as the most tolerant pontiff in a generation. From his widely publicized “who am I to judge?” remark on homosexuality to his repudiation of some of the luxuries his position affords, Pope Francis hasn’t shown reservation over wading into some of today’s most contentious issues.

But even by his standards, his reported leniency on divorce — not to mention the phone call’s unusual circumstances — may represent just how open to change Pope Francis has become. The alleged discussion has heightened expectation that there may be additional, and more concrete, alterations to Catholic Church teachings ahead. In October, a worldwide meeting of bishops will revolve around what Pope Francis has called ”pastoral challenges to the family.”

Catholic teaching holds that a divorced members of the church must first obtain an official annulment of their marriages if they’re to be remarried in the church. What’s more, according to New Jersey’s Trenton diocese, Catholics aren’t allowed to marry someone who is divorced unless he or she has had an annulment.

Neither Lisbona nor husband Julio Sabetta responded to requests from The Washington Post on Thursday morning, and it’s unclear whether Sabetta has had an annulment. What is clear, however, is that he was pretty stoked on Monday about the pope’s alleged phone call.

“After the birth of my daughters, today passed one of the most beautiful things,” he wrote in a Facebook post. “I had my house called by no one more or less than PAPA Francisco and it was the biggest thrill. The call originated with a letter my wife sent him. And he took the time to call and talk to her…. Thank God for this blessing.”

And from the Vatican Insider comes this interesting footnote: “The priest who apparently refused to administer Communion to [lisbona], no longer exercises his ministry. He asked to be dispensed from his obligations as priest so he could get married.”


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Post by: Mark on April 26, 2014, 05:32:00 am
'People's Pope' Calls for Change of Church Communion Rules

 Pope Francis is calling for a reform of the Catholic Church’s communion rules. According to the current set of regulations, divorced Catholics are not permitted to take communion, but the Pope personally called one woman to exempt her from the rule.

Jacqueline Sabetta Lisbona is married to Julio Sabetta, a divorced man. The two have been married for 19 years and have two children CNN reported.

Lisbona wrote to the Pope Francis for clarification of the communion rules; she had never been divorced, but married a divorced man.

The Pope responded personally via phone. “She spoke with the Pope, and he said she was absolved of all sins and that she could go and get the Holy Communion because she was not doing anything wrong,” Sabetta said of his wife.

The People’s Pope, as Pope Francis is called by some admirers, is now calling for changes to be made with the rules of Holy Communion.

“I think this is the moment for mercy,” Pope Francis said of divorced Catholics.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/people-s-pope-calls-for-change-of-church-communion-rules.html


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 26, 2014, 05:06:49 pm
Video: http://finance.yahoo.com/video/holy-moolah-john-paul-ii-135615996.html;_ylt=A0SO8zdOLVxTbVUA.PZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcGc3dWs2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1NNRTM5OV8x

Holy Moolah: John Paul II Canonization Sponsored By Banks, Oil Giant

He has railed against the “tyranny” of global capitalism and the “idolatry of money” but even Pope Francis needs a little corporate coin sometimes – as proven by the list of sponsors for Sunday’s canonizations. An oil and gas giant, several banks and Switzerland-based food megacorp Nestle are among more than a dozen financial backers of the Rome event. Hundreds of thousands of people are due to come to the Eternal City to see Pope John Paul II, who reigned from 1978 to 2005, and Pope John XXIII, who was pontiff from 1958 to 1963, canonized as saints. The list of sponsors is dominated by Italian corporations, including energy firms Eni and Enel, banking company Intesa SanPaolo and railway network Ferrovie Italiane.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 27, 2014, 09:12:14 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9g4iiLVOhg


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 28, 2014, 06:12:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_83FIZL69M


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 30, 2014, 06:24:11 pm
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/04/30/pope_francis_calls_a_vatican_meeting_to_discuss_gay_marriage_divorce_and.html
4/30/14
Pope Francis Calls a Meeting to Debate Gay Marriage and Contraception. Is the Church Changing?

Much of the media has been eager to see Pope Francis as a beacon of hope, a man who might actually change the hidebound Catholic Church and make it less oppressive on women and gay people across the globe. That hope got a little bit of juice Wednesday with the announcement that the pope is calling a Vatican meeting with clerics to debate the issues of gay rights, birth control, and divorce. As reported by the Los Angeles Times:

Contraception, cohabitation, divorce, remarriage and same-sex unions: They're issues that pain and puzzle Roman Catholics who want to be true to both their church and themselves.

Now those issues are about to be put up for debate by their leader, a man who appears determined to push boundaries and effect change.

On Pope Francis' orders, the Vatican will convene an urgent meeting of senior clerics this fall to reexamine church teachings that touch the most intimate aspects of people's lives. Billed as an "extraordinary" assembly of bishops, the gathering could herald a new approach by the church to the sensitive topics.

The pope instructed every diocese in the world to canvass its members on their attitudes about family planning and other matters, which of course will return results that show that premarital sex and contraception are widespread among Catholics, despite the rules. So does that mean that we can expect a Vatican III of sorts, with the pope emerging with the exciting announcement that the church is going to stop forbidding contraception, stop bullying divorced people, and accept that gay people deserve full human rights? Sadly, no:

Hardly anyone expects the pope to propose sweeping changes to Catholic doctrine at the synod in October despite widespread criticism that the modern world has left the church behind. Indeed, Francis has unequivocally upheld heterosexual marriage and procreation as God's established, sanctified ideal.

However, there is an expectation that, while the church will continue to officially deny Communion to people who divorce and remarry, Pope Francis "could offer local priests a work-around" of sorts.

I hate to be cynical, but it seems like this meeting will help Pope Francis shore up his image as a compassionate, empathetic pope by appearing to listen to people's concerns, all while not budging an inch on the long-standing traditions that harm women and gay people by denying them full human rights. But, hey, I hope the pope proves me wrong.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 08, 2014, 12:44:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6Inn38O94


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 09, 2014, 09:42:03 am
Pope demands 'legitimate redistribution' of wealth

Pope Francis called Friday for governments to redistribute wealth to the poor in a new spirit of generosity to help curb the "economy of exclusion" that is taking hold today.

Francis made the appeal during a speech to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the heads of major U.N. agencies who met in Rome this week.

Latin America's first pope has frequently lashed out at the injustices of capitalism and the global economic system that excludes so much of humanity, though his predecessors have voiced similar concerns.

On Friday, Francis called for the United Nations to promote a "worldwide ethical mobilization" of solidarity with the poor in a new spirit of generosity.

He said a more equal form of economic progress can be had through "the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the state, as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society."

Francis voiced a similar message to the World Economic Forum in January and in his apostolic exhortation "The Joy of the Gospel." That document, which denounced trickle-down economic theories as unproven and naive, provoked accusations in the U.S. that he was a Marxist.

Francis urged the U.N. to promote development goals that attack the root causes of poverty and hunger, protect the environment and ensure dignified labor for all.

"Specifically, this involves challenging all forms of injustices and resisting the economy of exclusion, the throwaway culture and the culture of death which nowadays sadly risk becoming passively accepted," he said.

Friday's audience came just days after the Holy See was battered in a second round of grilling by a U.N. committee over its record of handling priestly sex abuse. Neither the pope nor Ban spoke of the issue, but Francis referred to another topic at the U.N. hearings: the church's opposition to abortion. He called for respect for life "from conception to natural death" and his denunciation of the "culture of death" echoed previous papal exhortations against abortion.

During the meeting, Ban invited Francis to speak to the United Nations. The Vatican hasn't confirmed any such trip, but Francis is widely expected to visit the U.S. in September 2015 to participate in a church meeting on families in Philadelphia, making a U.N. stop then likely.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_UN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-05-09-06-31-28


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on May 10, 2014, 12:29:11 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6Inn38O94

Wow, that was pretty intense...

Truly, "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." (Matthew 24:33)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 13, 2014, 10:54:19 am
Pope says baptism for all - even Martians

Pope Francis has declared everyone has the right to be baptised, even aliens should they come knocking on the church's door.

Christians cannot "close the door" to all those who seek baptism even if they are "green men, with a long nose and big ears, like children draw," the pope said at his daily mass on Monday, according to Vatican Radio.

"If tomorrow, for example, an expedition of Martians arrives and some of them come to us ... and if one of them says: 'Me, I want to be baptised!', what would happen?" Francis said in another display of his lively sense of humour.

The Argentine pontiff known for his down-to-earth style has often used colourful and humorous expressions to make his points on the direction of the Roman Catholic Church.

On baptism Francis has stressed that it should not be refused, especially to children whose parents may be breaking Church rules such as living together as an unmarried couple.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/pope-says-baptism-for-all--even-martians-20140513-zraqo.html#ixzz31byfVg1L


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 17, 2014, 05:38:52 am
Pope Francis Stresses the Importance of Christian History in Mass Sermon

 Pope Francis delivered a mass sermon in Casa Santa Marta where he stressed the significance of Christian history.

Perhaps the most attention grabbing statement the Pope made was that Jesus is not a superhero.

“...you cannot understand a Christian alone, just like you cannot understand Jesus Christ alone. Jesus Christ did not fall from the sky like a superhero who comes to save us. No. Jesus Christ has a history,” Pope Francis said.

The Pope said churches are where “Christian identity” is established reports Christian Today.

“Our Christian identity is belonging to the people: the Church. Without this, we are not Christians. We entered the Church through baptism: there we are Christians.”

“God has a history because he wanted to walk with us. And you cannot understand Jesus Christ without his history. So a Christian without history, without a Christian nation, a Christian without the Church is incomprehensible.”

Pope Francis assured listeners that Christians’ ultimate end is eternal life in heaven. And as Christians continue on their journeys, living with Jesus as a role model is important.

“Our mission as Christians is to conform ourselves evermore to Jesus as the model of our lives,” he said.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/pope-francis-stresses-the-importance-of-christian-history-in-mass-sermon.html


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Post by: Mark on May 19, 2014, 08:47:13 am
Today's Show: POPE FRANCIS, SALVATION, GAY CARTOON  5.17.14

Chris discusses a recent story about Pope Francis who has declared that: "Without the Church, you are not a Christian."  But what does he mean by the word Church?  Also discussed is the recent canonization of Pope John Paul II and Pope John XXIII -- who are now "saints" according to the Catholic faith, who can be prayed to for help.  How has their ecumenical influence impacted the world today?  Chris also discusses the new Dreamworks animated film, "How to Train Your Dragon 2" which openly features a homosexual character. 

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.CHURCH.CHRISTIAN_05.17.14.mp3


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 19, 2014, 11:47:54 am
Today's Show: POPE FRANCIS, SALVATION, GAY CARTOON  5.17.14

Chris discusses a recent story about Pope Francis who has declared that: "Without the Church, you are not a Christian."  But what does he mean by the word Church?  Also discussed is the recent canonization of Pope John Paul II and Pope John XXIII -- who are now "saints" according to the Catholic faith, who can be prayed to for help.  How has their ecumenical influence impacted the world today?  Chris also discusses the new Dreamworks animated film, "How to Train Your Dragon 2" which openly features a homosexual character. 

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_POPE.CHURCH.CHRISTIAN_05.17.14.mp3

And these modern-day, Aposate, Baptist/Protestant Babel church buildings say the SAME THING - how we HAVE TO "join a church".

And yes, John Paul II had incredible influence over these Baptist/Protestant Babel church buildings - can't tell you how many times these hireling pastors would say really good things about him.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 22, 2014, 10:37:22 am
http://theweek.com/article/index/261965/speedreads-pope-francis-tackles-climate-change-if-we-destroy-creation-creation-will-destroy-us
5/21/14
Pope Francis tackles climate change: 'If we destroy Creation, Creation will destroy us'

Speaking in Rome today, Pope Francis called on his followers to become "Custodians of Creation," reported ThinkProgress.

The church's first Argentinean pope took his name from Saint Francis of Assisi, famous for his love of all animals. Pope Francis noted that love in his address today, saying God has charged humanity with caring for the created world — and each other.

"Creation is not a property, which we can rule over at will; or, even less, is the property of only a few: Creation is a gift, it is a wonderful gift that God has given us, so that we care for it and we use it for the benefit of all, always with great respect and gratitude," Francis said. "Safeguard Creation. Because if we destroy Creation, Creation will destroy us! Never forget this!"

The Vatican held a five-day summit earlier this month addressing sustainability initiatives; the summit welcomed experts from fields including microbiology and astronomy, along with legal scholars and economists, to advise the Catholic church on climate change issues.


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Post by: Mark on May 23, 2014, 04:40:45 pm
Pope kisses the hand of, concelebrates mass with pro-homosexual activist priest

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Pope Francis raised eyebrows earlier this month by concelebrating Mass with and kissing the hand of a leading homosexual activist priest campaigning for changes in the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. On May 6, Francis received the 93 year-old priest who has cofounded the homosexualist activist organization, Agedo Foggia, that is opposed to Catholic Church teaching.

Fr. (Don) Michele de Paolis concelebrated Mass with Pope Francis at the Domus Santa Martha and then presented the pontiff with gifts of a wooden chalice and paten and a copy of his most recent book, “Dear Don Michele - questions to an inconvenient priest”.

In a previous book, Don Michele wrote, “homosexual love is a gift from (God) no less than heterosexual.” He also disparaged the idea of homosexual couples not having sex.

Francis closed the meeting by kissing the priest’s hand, a gesture that the far-left newspaper L'immediato called one “revealing the humility of a great man to another of the same stature.” De Paolis described the unusual papal gesture himself in a post to his Facebook page, saying that he asked Francis for an audience with the priest’s other organization, the Community of Emmaus: “Is that possible?”

He said that the pope replied, “Anything is possible. Talk to Cardinal Maradiaga and he shall prepare everything.” 

“And then (unbelievably) he kissed my hand! I hugged him and wept,” de Paolis concluded.

The gesture has made something of a sensation in Italian media and ‘blogs since de Paolis is a well-known figure in Italy as a leading clerical apologist for the homosexualist ideology. He ostensibly met with Francis in his capacity as the founder of Emmaus Community in the southern Italian city of Foggia that assists the poor and those suffering from AIDS.

But it is for his cofounding of Agedo Foggia, an “association of parents, relatives and friends of homosexuals” (Associazione di genitori, parenti e amici di persone omosessuali) – that campaigns to promote the homosexualist and gender ideology in Italian society and the Church – that he is best known in this country.

LifeSiteNews asked Vatican spokesman Fr. Frederico Lombardi for clarification as to the nature of the encounter but received no reply by press time.

In addition to support from the City of Foggia, Agedo Foggia is funded by and working with the UNAR, the Italian government’s National Antidiscrimination and Racism Office (Ufficio Nazionale Antidiscriminazioni Razziali) that has issued documents threatening journalists with prison if they fail to portray homosexuality in a positive light.

The website of Agedo Lecce carries an extensive quote from one of de Paolis’s books to help readers “get out of the quagmire of biblical precepts”. He wrote, “[W]e must overcome the letter of Scripture. It is the same St. Paul in 2 Corinthians 3:6 who says, ‘The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.’”

“That this biblical letter,” de Paolis wrote, “killed and continues to kill, unfortunately, at times, not only morally but also physically, is a fact. The Bible ‘is’ not the word of God; the Bible ‘contains’ the word of God.”

“Instead of wasting energy in endless controversy the Church aims to build a Christian spirituality of joyous acceptance of self, gratitude to God in the knowledge that homosexual love is a gift from Him no less than heterosexual. A spirituality in which we dialogue and we compare to all, but obey God alone.”

Church people, he said, “completely ignore the phenomenon of homosexuality, which science has now clarified unequivocally: the homosexual orientation is not chosen freely by the person. The boy or girl will discover that it is an approach deeply rooted in personality, which is an essential aspect of his identity: it is not a disease, it is not a perversion.”

He lamented the “insensitivity” shown to homosexuals by the Catholic Church, saying, “Some church people say, ‘It’s okay to be gay, but they should not have sex, they can not love each other.’ This is the greatest hypocrisy. It’s like saying to a plant that grows, ‘You must not flourish, you must not bear fruit!’ Yes, it is against nature!’”

“We must have patience with our Mother Church,” he continues. “Her attitude towards homosexuals will change.” He praised the “numerous initiatives” that have already been founded throughout Italy in which “groups of homosexual Catholics have occasional contact with the diocese, usually marked by cordiality.”

De Paolis is a prominent member of an Italian clerical subculture on the extreme, Marxist-informed left that sprang up after the Second Vatican Council. One Catholic writer, Giuseppe Nardi, wrote that de Paolis is a promoter of the “anarcho-Catholicism” of the extreme left that has been dominant in the Church in Italy, as well as in the South American Church, since the 1970s.

De Paolis founded Agedo Foggia with the late Gabriele Scalfarotto, the father of the Italian Deputy Ivan Scalfarotto who sponsored the Italian parliament’s “anti-homophobia” bill that has been denounced by family activists as an attempt to shut down any moral criticism of the homosexual lifestyle. Recently pro-family and Catholic activists in Italy sought to secure Pope Francis’s aid in opposing the bill.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-kisses-the-hand-of-gay-activist-priest-allowed-to-concelebrate-mass


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 23, 2014, 04:54:52 pm
So finally Lifesite news exposes Frankie! :o


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 23, 2014, 07:06:21 pm
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180928#.U3_VpfldVh6
Vatican Says Pope Will Demand 'Sovereign Palestine'
Vatican's Secretary of State says pope during visit will talk about 'Palestinian right to sovereign, independent homeland.'

5/22/14

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Vatican Sec'y of State Pietro Parolin

The Vatican's Secretary of State made a dramatic revelation ahead of Pope Francis's visit to Israel next Sunday and Monday, declaring that the pope will talk about the "Palestinian people's right to have a homeland, sovereign and independent."

Cardinal Pietro Parolin holds a role in the Vatican City State, located in the Italian capital of Rome, equivalent to that of a prime minister. Speaking to Vatican television on Thursday, he said "we know that the pope is going to a particularly suffering land," reports AFP.

"I really hope that the fruit will be to help politicians and all people of good will take courageous decisions on the path to peace," Parolin stated.

When asked what the pope particularly intends to talk about during the visit, Parolin revealed he would talk about "on the one hand, Israel's right to exist in peace and security within internationally recognized boundaries."

On the other side, the pope would talk about "the Palestinian people's right to have a homeland, sovereign and independent, the right to move around freely, the right to live in dignity," according to Parolin.

In fact, the Vatican recognized the "State of Palestine" in 2012 amid the United Nations (UN) vote to confer "Palestine" non-member observer state status, a status until then only held by the Vatican.

Despite the pope's insistence that his visit is "religious not political," his decision to begin his trip from Jordan directly by helicopter with a stop in Palestinian Authority (PA) controlled Bethlehem has been greeted by Arab sources as a move to "recognize Palestine" and help "end the occupation."

Rabbi Sergio Bergman, a member of the Argentinian parliament and close friend of Pope Francis, reported in February that the pope intends to define himself as the "Che Guevera of the Palestinians" and support their "struggle and rights" during his visit.

It has been noted that the pope has been remarkably tight-lipped over the violent persecution of Christians in Bethlehem, instead choosing to condemn alleged Jewish "price tag" vandalism.

"Holy Father" asked to pressure Israel to let priests enter without IDF permission

On Thursday it was announced that 650 Christians from Gaza would be allowed to leave the Islamist-ruled enclave to travel to Judea and Samaria for the pope's visit.

However, 20 priests from the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem, which presides over Arab Catholic communities in Judea and Samaria, wrote the pope a letter on Thursday, complaining that they had not been allowed to enter Jerusalem without IDF permission.

"According to the State of Israel, the illegal occupier, we do not have the right to travel to Jerusalem without permission from the Israeli army," the Arab priests said in the letter.

In the letter, the priests claimed the Vatican had given them passes to enter Jerusalem which Israel hasn't stamped with visas. The IDF monitors passage over the 1949 Armistice lines.

"Jerusalem is becoming increasingly closed off to Christians from the West Bank," the letter added, calling for the pope to pressure Israel to submit on controlling passage on its own borders.

The letter concluded "can the Holy Father be in the Holy Land without saying anything about the reality of injustice against an entire people held prisoner on its own land?"

Controversy, both religious and political

Another point of contention about the pope's visit is the status of the David's Tomb Compound in Jerusalem. While numerous government officials - including Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman and Israel's Sephardic Chief Rabbi - have denied control of the holy site will be transferred to the Vatican, reports have revealed a plan to indirectly transfer the site.

Rabbi Avraham Goldstein, the Rosh Yeshiva (dean) of the Diaspora Yeshiva located in the Compound, revealed what he said were much more underhand plans than a straightforward hand-over.

"According to the information we have...the state will be allowing the Church to conduct Mass on the upper floor; then according to Jewish law (halakha) Jews will not be able to pray downstairs (either), since on the upper floor there will be idol worship," the rabbi said.

Jewish law forbids benefiting from anything - including a structure or shelter - used for idol-worship. Catholic effigies and other rituals fall under the Jewish legal definition of idol worship, meaning that the establishment of a permanent Catholic place of prayer in the Compound would effectively prevent Jews from conducting their own services in the entire building.

A Catholic official confirmed the Vatican's intentions to put those very plans into effect, telling the Salt Lake Tribune on Tuesday that the Vatican wants "to hold two hours of [Christian] prayer every day in the early morning before visitors start to visit it."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 25, 2014, 05:39:41 pm
Pope gives Palestinians boost of support
5/25/14
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-gives-palestinians-boost-support-184213305.html

JERUSALEM (AP) — Pope Francis delivered a powerful boost of support to the Palestinians during a Holy Land pilgrimage Sunday, repeatedly backing their statehood aspirations, praying solemnly at Israel's controversial separation barrier and calling the stalemate in peace efforts "unacceptable."

In an unscripted move, Francis arranged a meeting between the Israeli and Palestinian presidents at the Vatican next month. The meeting, while largely symbolic, shows how the pope has sought to transform his immensely popular appeal into a moral force for peace.

On the second day of a three-day swing through the region, the pope arrived in Bethlehem, the birthplace of Christianity, before heading to Israel for the final leg of his visit.

While Francis mingled warmly with his Israeli hosts, his trip to Bethlehem included the day's most powerful images as he expressed sympathy and solidarity with the Palestinians.

"I am with you," he told a group of Palestinian children at a stop in Bethlehem's Deheishe refugee camp. He also held a private lunch with five Palestinian families who say they have been harmed by Israeli policies.

Even the pope's arrival in Bethlehem — by helicopter straight from Jordan — carried important symbolic significance. Past papal visits to the West Bank have come through Israel, which captured the territory in the 1967 Mideast war.

Palestinian officials hailed Francis' decision to refer to the "state of Palestine." In its official program, the Vatican referred to President Mahmoud Abbas as the president of the "state of Palestine," and his Bethlehem office as the "presidential palace." He pointedly called Abbas a "man of peace."

Jubilant Palestinians cheered Francis as he arrived in Bethlehem's Manger Square, shouting "Viva al-Baba!" or "Long live the pope!" Giant Palestinian flags in red, white, green and black and the Vatican's yellow-and-white flags decorated the square, which is home to the Church of the Nativity, built over the grotto where tradition says Jesus was born.

"Coming to Bethlehem and flying to Bethlehem from Jordan shows solidarity with the Palestinian people, which is wonderful. We need that," said Samar Sakkakin, a 52-year-old Palestinian-American from Canton, Michigan.

In November 2012, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly recognized a "state of Palestine" in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem — lands Israel captured in the 1967 war — as a non-member observer. The recognition still has little meaning on the ground, with Israel remaining in full control of east Jerusalem, which it annexed in 1967, and the West Bank.

However, it has enabled the Palestinians to start seeking membership in U.N. agencies and accede to international conventions in a further upgrade of their status. Israel objects to the Palestinian campaign, saying it is an attempt to bypass negotiations.

Francis' arrival came weeks after the latest round of U.S.-backed peace talks collapsed. During nine months of negotiations, little — if any — progress was made, and there are no signs of talks resuming anytime soon.

Standing alongside Abbas at a welcome ceremony, Francis declared: "The time has come to put an end to this situation, which has become increasingly unacceptable."

He said both sides needed to make sacrifices to create two states, with internationally recognized borders, based on mutual security and rights for everyone. He urged both sides to refrain from any actions that would derail peace.

In his remarks, Abbas voiced his concerns about the recent breakdown in peace efforts and lamented the difficult conditions facing the Palestinians.

Abbas said he would welcome papal intervention. "We welcome any initiative from you to make peace a reality in the Holy Land," Abbas said.

After the meeting, the pope's open-roof vehicle stopped at a section of the West Bank separation barrier, which encircles Bethlehem on three sides. Israel says the structure is a security measure. The Palestinians say it has gobbled up their land and stifled their economy.

Francis stood up, put a hand on the wall, bowed his head and said a short prayer alongside a section on which "Free Palestine" is scribbled in graffiti.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Francis had made a "personal decision" to stop by the wall. He said the barrier was a symbol of the conflict and it was appropriate for Francis to pray for peace there.

"This wall is a sign of division, that something is not functioning right," Lombardi told a news conference in Jerusalem. Francis' prayer there "signifies for me his desire for peace, for a world without walls," Lombardi said.

In another unscripted move, Francis issued a surprise joint invitation for Abbas and Israeli President Shimon Peres to come to the Vatican to pray for peace together. "I offer my home in the Vatican as a place for this encounter of prayer," he said.

The offices of the Israeli and Palestinian presidents quickly confirmed their acceptance, with the Palestinians saying the meeting would take place June 6.

The invitation — and the acceptances — were unexpected given Francis' insistence that his three-day visit was a "strictly religious" pilgrimage to commemorate a Catholic-Orthodox anniversary. Lombardi said the pope had discussed the idea with his advisers in the run-up to the visit as a way to give a concrete push to peace efforts.

"It was not a reflection that was made in an hour," Lombardi said. "It was a reflection that accompanied the preparations of the trip."

Peres, a 90-year-old Nobel Peace laureate, holds a largely ceremonial position, and the Vatican meeting will be largely symbolic. But he nonetheless risks upsetting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with the move.

Netanyahu has expressed anger with politicians that have reached out to Abbas at a time when the Palestinian leader is reconciling with the Islamic militant group Hamas, which controls Gaza. Israel considers Hamas a terrorist group. Netanyahu's office declined comment.

Isaac Herzog, Israel's opposition leader, said the pope, a close friend of Israel, had sent a clear message to Netanyahu through the invitation. Speaking on Channel 2 TV, Herzog said the pope was essentially saying, "Do something. It can't go on like this."

Francis flew to Israel's Ben-Gurion International Airport in Tel Aviv, where he was warmly greeted by an honor guard. With trumpets blaring, the country's top officials lined up to shake his hand as he walked a red carpet.

Francis deplored Saturday's deadly shooting at Brussels' Jewish Museum as a "criminal act of anti-Semitic hatred." Two Israelis were among the dead.

He also condemned the Holocaust as the "enduring symbol of the depths to which human evil can sink." Francis is to visit Israel's national Holocaust memorial, Yad Vashem, on Monday.

But the pope also lamented the dire state of Mideast peace efforts, saying the holy city of Jerusalem "remains deeply troubled."

He called for a "just and lasting solution" so that Israelis and Palestinians may live in peace. He said Israel deserves peace and security "within internationally recognized borders," while the Palestinians have a "right to live with dignity and with freedom of movement" in their own homeland.

In the run-up to Francis' arrival, Israel experienced a string of vandalism attacks on churches and Vatican properties, presumably by Jewish extremists.

Earlier Sunday, Israeli police arrested 26 Israeli hard-liners protesting outside a contested holy site revered by Catholics as the site of Jesus' Last Supper and by devout Jews as the burial site of the biblical King David.

Israeli extremists have spread rumors in recent weeks that Israel plans on turning the site over to Vatican control.

Francis made no mention of these incidents, but expressed hope that "this blessed land may be one which has no place for those who, by exploiting and absolutizing the value of their own religious tradition, prove intolerant and violent towards those of others."

In the spiritual highlight of his visit, the pope late Sunday went to Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulcher, where Christians believe Jesus was crucified, buried and resurrected, to pray with the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I. Their meeting marked the 50th anniversary of a similar meeting between their predecessors that ended a 900-year rift.J


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 28, 2014, 04:49:50 pm
http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2014/05/kevin-annett-vatican-rumors-pope-francis-healthresignation-to-avoid-satanic-murder-evidence-black-pope-resigns-2559866.html
Kevin Annett: Vatican rumors Pope Francis health/resignation to avoid Satanic murder evidence. Black Pope resigns.
Saturday, May 24, 2014 15:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCX_oujvuMg

Exclusive interview with Kevin Annett: Vatican floats rumours of Pope’s “ill health” to distract from new evidence indicting Jorge Bergoglio for child murder – Common Law Sheriffs to take action
Posted on May 24, 2014
Kevin Annett interview: Vatican circulates rumours concerning Pope Bergoglio’s bad health to avoid Satanic 9th circle murder evidence – May 23, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCX_oujvuMg

VANCOUVER, BC – In a wide-ranging Exopolitics TV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre, Kevin Annett, Field Secretary of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, revealed Vatican infighting and rumours of Pope Francis “bad health” as divserions from the evidence of Satanic child sacrifice in the Papal 9th Circle rituals. Evidence of these rituals has been recorded from eye witnesses at the Brussels trial of Pope Jorge Bergoglio (“Pope Francis”), the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Superior General of the Jesuits and others for child trafficking and genocide. The trial, now in its 3rd session, is expected to continue for as long as a year.

In the course of the interview, Kevin Annett discussed the support of Belgian MP Laurent Louis for the ITCCS.ORG Brussels trial. He also discussed the ongoing Common Law Sheriff and Enforcement Officer training for ITCCS and the International Common Law Court of Justice and its expansion in the U.S. In Canada, Common Law Sheriffs are being trained and deployed to prevent a reported 9th Circle Child Sacrifice Ritual planned at the Montreal Cathedral Marie Reine du Monde for August 15, 2014.

Transcript of witness evidence
In his interview, Kevin Annett read from a sample transcript of evidence given in the Brussels trial that connects child sacrifice, genocide and torture committed during the 1950s in programs involving former German SS officers stationed at the Lincoln Park Air Force base in Calgary, Alberta, and elsewhere in Canada. The SS officers, who had been supplied with new identities by the Canadian Armed forces, were connected to the Knights of Darkness, a Satanic child sacrifice organization of which Pope Joseph Ratzinger was a member. Both the Government of Canada and Pope Ratzinger were defendants and found guilty of child genocide in a previous trial before the International Common Law Court of Justice.

London, UK & Rome: Enforcement Action June 29 – July 2, 2014
Kevin Annett reiterated that during June 29 – July 2, 2014 a Common Law Court Enforcement Action will take place in London UK and Rome Italy.

Kevin Annett will be leading an ITCCS enforcement delegation accompanied by Common Law Sheriffs and supporters to the UK and to Rome to enforce Court arrest warrants against Elizabeth Windsor and against Pope Joseph Ratzinger and others already convicted by the Common Law Court of Justice for crimes against humanity. These enforcement actions will be broadcast via live media.

Individuals who live in the UK and in Rome and who want to support the Common Law Court of Justice actions by accompanying the ITCCS delegation and videoing the proceedings on their smartphones, etc. are encouraged to contact Kevin Annett athiddenfromhistory1@gmail.com or The Central Office of The International Common Law Court of Justice, Brussels itccscentral@gmail.com

www.itccs.org
www.iclcj.com

Kevin Annett: Vatican rumors Pope Bergoglio’s bad health and resignation to avoid Satanic 9th circle murder evidence

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2014/05/kevin-annett-vatican-rumors-pope-bergoglios-bad-health-and-resignation-to-avoid-satanic-9th-circle-murder-evidence.html

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Nina Sidorova < nikasid108@mail.ru> wrote:

>     MEXICO CITY (approved) -. The Spanish religious Adolfo Nicolas Pachon, the “Black Pope”, as known to the head of the Society of Jesus, resigned Tuesday 20.
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>     This day, the Society said that later this year will convene a General Congregation in 2016, will meet to choose a kind of conclave's successor Nicolas Pachon.
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>     The order of the Jesuits for the first time in history that managed one of their own became maximum hierarch of the Catholic Church, Pope Francisco, besides having universities worldwide.
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>     The Jesuits administered the Iberoamericana University and the Institute of Technology and Higher Studies (ITESO) in Guadalajara, Jalisco.
>     Father Nicholas, 78, said in a letter that his decision to retire has the blessing of Pope Francisco. The General of the Jesuits is the sole responsibility of the Church, together with the Roman Pontiff, is for life.
>     For office and his black cassock with the general of the Jesuits are colloquially termed as “black popes”. However, the internal regulations of the order provide for the possibility that general Fathers of the Society of Jesus may resign.
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>     Nicholas's predecessor as superior of the Jesuits, Dutch Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, resigned in 2008 to nearly 80 years and after almost a quarter century of wielding the helm of that order. Benedict XVI, then Pope, authorized retirement.
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>     Indeed, the decision to resign as Nicholas “Black Pope” has fueled rumors that point to the possibility that, someday, the first Jesuit Francisco-pope in history-can also resign Roman pontiff and Carry and the path opened by Benedict XVI and general priests of the Society of Jesus.
>     Renuncia a los 78 años el “Papa Negro”, líder de los jesuitas
>     MÉXICO, D.F. (apro).- El religioso español Adolfo Nicolás Pachón, el “Papa Negro”, como se conoce al máximo responsable de la…
>     REVISTA PROCESO|BY COMUNICACIÓN E INFORMACIÓN, SA DE CV
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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 29, 2014, 06:37:17 pm
Israeli and Palestinian presidents to meet at Vatican on June 8
5/29/14
http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-palestinian-presidents-meet-vatican-june-8-174918569.html

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will meet at the Vatican and pray for peace together at an unprecedented gathering on June 8, the Vatican said on Thursday.

In one of his boldest political gestures since his election in March, 2013, Pope Francis invited the two leaders to come to the Vatican and hold a joint prayer meeting with him during the pontiff's trip to the Holy Land last week.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said the two had accepted that the meeting would take place on a Sunday afternoon. That morning the pope will be presiding at a Pentacost Sunday service in St Peter's Square.

The pope, who made the surprise invitation at the end of a Mass in Bethlehem last Saturday, told reporters on the plane returning to Rome that he was not getting directly involved in the stalled Mideast peace process, something he said would be "crazy on my part".

But he said he hoped the prayer meeting, which comes after flailing diplomatic efforts to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, would help create an atmosphere that would help the eventual resumption of talks.

"Courage is needed to do this and I am praying to the Lord very much so that these two leaders, these two governments, have the courage to move forward. This is the only path for peace," Francis said on the plane.

The pope said a rabbi and an Islamic official would be present, without giving details. The meeting is expected to take place in either the guest house where the pope lives in the Vatican or part of the modern complex used for papal general audiences.

When he made the invitation in Bethlehem, the pope said he was offering his "home" for the meeting.

The offer came just a month after U.S.-led peace talks collapsed amid bitter, mutual recrimination.

It was not clear, however, how the unusual prayer encounter could break decades of mutual mistrust.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the key Israeli decision-maker, will not be at the prayer meeting. Furthermore, Peres is due to leave office in July.

"We will work together, Jews, Christians and Muslims to bring an end to the conflicts," Peres said on Monday, speaking alongside the pope in Jerusalem.


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Post by: Mark on June 02, 2014, 12:22:55 pm
Today Petrus Romanus Became The First Pope Ever To Bless 50,000 Evangelicals, Pentecostals, And Charismatic Catholics At Convocation In Rome's Olympic Stadium

For the first time in history, a pope is visiting the Rome Olympic Stadium for an international charismatic renewal convocation. Today, Sunday, June 1, Pope Francis will attend and meet members of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement. The theme of the event, comprising prayer, testimonies, and dialogue, is “Repent! Believe! Receive the Holy Spirit!”. Archbishop Iannone said it is a good forum for the faithful, who may not speak the same language, to experience the Spirit, and noted the importance of “welcome” and “mission”. He said those gathered will learn to welcome their encounter with the Spirit and to live it out in their lives and communicate it to others. Event organizer Salvatore Martinez said some other movements and ecclesial communities will participate and share the Spirit in this meeting as ecumenical delegations - Evangelicals and Pentecostals - are "really interested to see what is happening in the Catholic Church."

http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/pope-to-inaugurate-charismatic-convocation-in-rome-s-olympic-stadium


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 02, 2014, 01:38:05 pm
Things are really going at a faster pace(than I've imagined) at this very moment. Buckle up!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 05, 2014, 12:42:22 pm
Yeah - with all the attention they gave Obama being the Antichrist, and then subsequently Obama SUPPOSEDLY put tons of time into this ME "peace process"(only for it to fail, ultimately) - ultimately, it got everyone completely looking one way, only to get them to ignore the elephant in the room...

http://www.voanews.com/content/pope-francis-gets-involved-in-middle-east-peace-process/1929934.html
Pope Francis Gets Involved In Middle East Peace Process
6/5/14

WASHINGTON — Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas are expected to meet at the Vatican Sunday for what is being called an “intense prayer session” with Pope Francis.
 
The unexpected invitation was extended during the pope's recent visit to the Middle East, where Francis engaged in the kind of photo opportunities that popes usually avoid. He stopped at the barrier erected around the Palestinian territories and at an Israeli memorial for victims of terrorism.
 
On the plane home, Pope Francis told reporters he is not getting involved in the stalled peace process.
 
Nonetheless, said Daniel Petri at the Catholic University of America in Washington, the invitation is a bold move.
 
“If something happens, it’s tremendous. Pope Francis is the miracle worker of the Middle East,” he said.
 
The pope is already seen as a maker of miracles by many of his followers. His prayer vigil for peace in Syria on Sept. 7, 2013 was followed by an agreement a week later that prevented U.S. air strikes over the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons.

 
Christopher Hale of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good has argued in Time magazine that the pope’s accomplishments in the Middle East have shown him to be “the world’s best politician.
 
But Petri, a PhD candidate, argued in a rebuttal that there have been tens of thousands of fatalities in the Syrian conflict, as well as new allegations of chemical attacks, since the pope’s prayer.
 
“To claim it a success, I think, is wrong, morally and intellectually,” he said, adding that the symbolism of the pope’s actions is what’s important.
 
Sunday’s prayer meeting will follow a morning Pentecost service in St. Peter’s Square. It’s far from clear that anything concrete can be offered by the two political leaders. Peres is nearing the end of his term as Israeli president, and Abbas recently swore in a unity government including Hamas, which advocates the destruction of Israel.
 
Short of a miracle, the main thing the Vatican prayer session can be counted on to produce is an image of a peace effort, with the pope at the center.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 06, 2014, 12:51:23 pm
Bush security aide joins Vatican financial watchdog
http://news.yahoo.com/bush-security-aide-joins-vatican-financial-watchdog-211825289.html
6/5/14

Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis on Thursday dismissed the Italian five-man board of the Vatican's Financial Information Authority and named new members including a woman for the first time and a former security adviser to US President George W. Bush.

Juan Zarate from the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, who was Bush's deputy national security adviser for counter-terrorism, will now have to enforce transparency rules for scandal-hit Vatican finances.

The three others chosen are Italian manager Maria Farina, Swiss financial consultant Marc Odendall and Joseph Pillay, who helped build up Singapore's economy as a top civil servant and businessman, the Vatican said in a statement.

The five Italian members of the body, who were appointed by the pope's predecessor Benedict XVI, were dismissed in what a source told Vatican affairs news agency I.MEDIA was part of a bid by Francis to get rid of the "old guard".

Vatican finances have been hit by a series of scandals in recent years and two former directors of the Vatican bank, officially known as the Institute for Religious Works, are facing trial in Italy for money laundering.

Benedict XVI and Francis have instituted a series of major reforms aimed at cleaning up the bank and promoting greater transparency in a bid to align the Vatican with international financial norms.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 06, 2014, 01:03:50 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-seeks-rekindle-dream-mideast-peace-125902952.html
Pope seeks to rekindle dream of Mideast peace
6/6/14

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis is seeking to rekindle the dream of peace by bringing the Israeli and Palestinian presidents together this weekend for a unique common prayer for peace in the Vatican gardens.

It will be the first time such a meeting has ever taken place at the Vatican and marks the first time in over a year that Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas have met.

Vatican officials insisted Friday the Sunday evening prayer represented a "pause in politics" and had no political aim other than to re-ignite the desire for Israeli-Palestinian peace that was perhaps at its high when Peres and Abbas signed the Oslo peace accords in 1993.

The latest round of U.S.-sponsored peace talks collapsed in failure in April. Francis issued the invitation to Peres and Abbas to come to "my home" to pray for peace during his recent trip to the Middle East.

"Naturally no one has the presumption to think that after this peace will suddenly break out in the Holy Land," the Rev. Pierbattista Pizzaballa, custodian of the Catholic Church's properties in the Holy Land, told reporters.

"The intent of this initiative is to reopen a path that has perhaps been closed for some time, to recreate the desire, the possibility, the dream."

The Vatican on Friday released the details of how the event will unfold, a delicate balancing act of both religious and diplomatic protocol that will see Jewish, Muslim and Christians praying for peace in the shadow of St. Peter's Basilica.

Francis is expected to greet Peres and Abbas separately at the Vatican hotel where he lives and have a brief one-on-one with each of the men. Francis will be joined by the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, demonstrating a united Christian front for the event.

The four will then travel to a field in the Vatican gardens for the prayer ceremony. It is divided into three parts, Jewish, Christian and Muslim, with each faith group reading texts from their respective holy books that concern three common themes: creation, a prayer for forgiveness, and a prayer for peace.

Francis, Peres and Abbas will then deliver their own remarks, and together with Bartholomew the men will plant an olive tree in a gesture of peace.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 08, 2014, 05:42:09 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-wades-mideast-peace-prayer-summit-172528564.html
6/8/14
Pope wades into Mideast peace with prayer summit

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis waded head-first into Mideast peace-making Sunday, welcoming the Israeli and Palestinian presidents to the Vatican for an evening of peace prayers just weeks after the last round of U.S.-sponsored negotiations collapsed.

Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas embraced in the foyer of the Vatican hotel where Francis lives, joked together and sat on either side of Francis for an hourlong invocation of Jewish, Christian and Muslim prayers in the Vatican gardens.

Francis told the two men, who signed the Oslo peace accords in 1993, that he hoped the summit would mark "a new journey" toward peace. He said too many children had been killed by war and violence, and that their memory should instill the strength and patience to work for dialogue and coexistence.

"Peacemaking calls for courage, much more so than warfare," he said. "It calls for the courage to say yes to encounter and no to conflict."

Vatican officials have insisted that Francis had no political agenda in inviting the two leaders to pray at his home other than to rekindle a desire for peace. But the meeting could have greater symbolic significance, given that Francis was able to bring them together at all so soon after peace talks failed and at a time that Israel is trying to isolate Abbas.

"In the Middle East, symbolic gestures and incremental steps are important," noted the Rev. Thomas Reese, a veteran Vatican analyst for the National Catholic Reporter. "And who knows what conversations can occur behind closed doors in the Vatican."

The meeting has also cemented Francis' reputation as a leader unhindered by diplomatic and theological protocol who is willing to go out on a limb for the sake of peace. Francis capitalized on both his own enormous popularity and the peace-loving heritage of his namesake, St. Francis of Assisi, to bring the two sides together.

The unusual prayer summit was a feat of diplomatic and religious protocol, organized in the two weeks since Francis issued the surprise invitation to Peres and Abbas from Manger Square in Bethlehem.

It took place in the lush Vatican gardens in the shadow of St. Peter's Basilica, the most religiously neutral place in the tiny city-state. It incorporated Jewish, Christian and Muslim prayers, delivered in Hebrew, English, Arabic and Italian and with musical interludes from the three faith traditions.

The prayers focused on three themes common to each of the religions: thanking God for creation, seeking forgiveness for past wrongdoing and praying to God to bring peace to the region.

At the conclusion, Francis, Peres and Abbas shook hands and planted an olive tree together in a sign of peace. Also on hand was the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, to give a united Christian front.

Vatican officials have described the prayer evening as something of a "time-out" in political negotiations, merely designed to rekindle the desire for peace through prayers common to all the main faith traditions in the Holy Land.

But even Francis' secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, has said the power of prayer shouldn't be discounted for its ability to change reality.

"Prayer has a political strength that we maybe don't even realize and should be exploited to the full," he said at the end of Francis' Mideast trip.

"Prayer has the ability to transform hearts and thus to transform history."

That said, no concrete results are expected: Peres has no formal role in peace negotiations, holds a largely ceremonial post and leaves office at the end of the month.

But Nadav Tamir, a political adviser to Peres, said Sunday the Israeli government authorized the trip and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was in "constant contact" with Peres. Speaking on Israeli Army Radio, Tamir stressed the meeting was not political, even though he said Peres and Abbas were expected to discuss political developments when they meet in private after the prayer.

Netanyahu has urged the world to shun Abbas' new unity government which took office last week because it is backed by the Islamic militant group Hamas. His pleas have been ignored by the West, with both the U.S. and the European Union saying they will give the unity government a chance.

Peres' participation thus undermines Netanyahu's attempts to isolate the Palestinians and instead adds to the growing isolation of Netanyahu's hard-line position. Netanyahu's office has declined repeated requests for comment about the Vatican summit.

Nevertheless, Tamir stressed that the meeting had a different aspect to it.

"The government of Israel decided not to hold political negotiations, but we aren't talking about political negotiations. We are talking about a different gesture, a spiritual gesture, an act of public diplomacy," Tamir said.

Abbas, for his part, told Italian daily La Repubblica that Francis' invitation was "an act of great courage."

"Nothing should stop us in the search for solutions so that both of our people can live in their own sovereign state," he was quoted as saying in Sunday's editions.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 08, 2014, 05:51:45 pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/holy-history-israeli-palestinian-leaders-pray-vatican-n125601
Holy History: Israeli, Palestinian Leaders Pray at Vatican

VATICAN CITY — The Israeli and Palestinian presidents joined in an unprecedented prayer meeting with Pope Francis Sunday, a gesture the pontiff hopes will "re-create a desire, a possibility" of kick-starting the stalled Middle East peace process.

Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas accepted a surprise public invitation from Francis to come to “his home” to pray together during his recent visit to the region.

“It is my hope that this meeting will mark the beginning of a new journey where we seek the things that unite, so as to overcome the things that divide,” Francis said Sunday. He thanked the presidents for accepting his invitation, and said that people of varied cultures and religions had been praying for a meeting of this nature.

The Vatican is keen to play down suggestions that Sunday’s event is political, but it is nonetheless a symbolic gesture that has the power to stir public opinion and put pressure on the Israeli and Palestinian authorities to find a way out of the stalemate.

Francis met with the two leaders privately after welcoming each of them with an embrace.

“No one has the presumption to believe that, after this event, peace will break out in the Holy Land,” said Fr. Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Vatican’s Custodian of the Holy Land. “The intent is “to make a strong gesture to reopen this road where everyone again feels the need for this peace and to have some impact on public opinion.”

The “invocation for peace” began in the Vatican gardens at 7 p.m. (1 p.m. ET) and featured Jewish, Christian and Muslim prayers, interspersed with short musical passages.

The venue was chosen because of the absence of the religious symbols that adorn other parts of the Vatican.

The three leaders delivered similar messages — each including a passage on creation, a request for forgiveness and a cry for peace.

“Two peoples — Israelis and Palestinians — still are aching for peace,” Peres said. “We must put an end to the cries, to the violence, to the conflict. We all need peace. Peace between equals."

The Israeli president also expressed his gratitude to Francis for his “wisdom and modesty” in initiating the meeting.

Abbas prayed, “I beseech you, oh Lord, to make prosperous and promising the future of our people, and freedom in our sovereign and independent state. Grant us, oh Lord, our region and its people security, safety and stability. Save our blessed city Jerusalem."

At the end of the ceremony, Francis, Peres and Abbas planted an olive tree — a symbol of peace.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the key Israeli decision-maker, did not attend and has refused to deal with the Palestinian unity government — which Abbas swore in last Monday — because it is backed by Hamas Islamists.

Peres is due to leave office next month. But the fact that Francis' bold move has managed to bring the two presidents together shows his desire to engage political leaders on global issues, offering inter-religious dialogue as a building block.

“Peacemaking calls for courage, much more than warfare,” the pontiff said in the garden. “It calls for the courage to say yes to encounter and no to conflict; yes to dialogue and no to violence; yes to negotiations and no to hostilities.”

The meeting is taking place more than a month after U.S.-led peace talks collapsed amid bitter mutual recrimination.

The pope, in his weekly Sunday address in St. Peter's Square, said he hoped faithful of all religions "will unite themselves spiritually to our plea."

It will also mark the first time that Jewish, Christian and Islamic prayers will be held in the tiny city-state that is the headquarters of the 1.2 billion-member Roman Catholic Church.

“Now, Lord, come to our aid. Grant us peace, teach us peace. Guide our steps in the way of peace,” Francis prayed. “Open our eyes and our hearts, and give us the courage to say: ‘Never again war. With war, everything is lost.’”

Francis closed his prayer inclusively: “Shalom, Peace, Salaam, Amen.”

6/8/14


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Post by: Christian40 on June 09, 2014, 04:28:19 am
Historic First Ever Islamic Prayers At Vatican Signals Start Of One World Religion

"Chrislam Will Be The One World Religion"

"The book of Revelation is quite clear when it discusses the Catholic system in chapters 17 and 18.  The Vatican sitting on seven hills is called the “mother of harlots”, a pagan system of worship that has control over the whole world. She is carried by the beast, and is the enemy of God. More than that, she will rule for a period of time with complete power over kings, mighty men and all the inhabitants of the earth. The One World Religion during the time of the Great Tribulation.

So it is with great interest that we note that the Vatican, which represents 1 billion+ Catholics around the world, and Islam which claims more than 1 billion+ Muslim adherents, have begun to merge and join forces. Al Arabiya reports this:

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians. Holy See officials on Friday said the evening prayers would be a “pause in politics” and had no political aim other than to rekindle the desire for Israeli-Palestinian peace at the political and popular level.

In prophecy, the Pope is not the Antichrist, he is the False Prophet. It will be his job to control the One World Religion,  just as it will be the job of the Antichrist to create and control the One World Government. The Antichrist, the False Prophet, and the Beast which is Satan himself, are the Unholy Trinity that the scriptures warn will come. If Pope Francis continues on this path, and there is no reason why he wouldn’t, it is highly likely that he is the False Prophet of Revelation. That means that the arrival of the Antichrist is next, and that the Rapture of the Church can happen at any moment.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4

A 7 Year Peace Treaty is about to be crafted and signed by all parties concerned. This is the goal that Pope Francis is working towards. When will it happen? No one can say. But this is as close to that peace treaty as we have ever been in the 2,000 years since the prophecies were first given. Tomorrow at the Vatican, the Catholic Pope will lead the main representative of Israel and the main representative of Islam in a worship service at the place that the bible calls the “mother of harlots”. They all claim to want “peace” at any cost. A peace is coming, but it will be a false peace administered by a false messiah. It will be the time of Jacob’s Trouble.

The Times of Israel reports that “According to a statement released by Peres’s spokesperson, Abbas, Peres, and Francis will be joined by Jewish, Christian and Islamic religious leaders. The event will feature readings about peace by the clergy from the Tanach, the New Testament and the Quran. Francis will then read religious verses with Peres and Abbas, which the three will have selected for the ceremony.”

Yes, we are really that close."

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=22463


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 09, 2014, 08:58:02 am
Pope Francis On Frantic Quest To Unite All Religions Under Rome

The Pope is working to combine all religions into one

“And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:6

Pope Francis is a man on a mission to fulfill bible prophecy, and he is getting more done than any other Pope in the last 100 years. Pope Francis is here to make some serious and drastic changes not only in the Catholic Vatican system, in the professing Christianity as well.  He is creating the One World Religion.

http://vimeo.com/97690061

The bible, in Revelation 17 and 18, talks about a harlot church that rules the spiritual world. She is wealthy beyond description, and all the kings and mighty men of the earth want to be in a spiritual bed with her. The bible says that she is a city that “sitteth on seven hills”, and is “drunk with the blood of the saints”. This can only be one system, one place, one church – the Roman Catholic Church whose Vatican headquarters sits on the famed Seven Hills in Rome.
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Pope Francis’s call for unity goes beyond the Christian community. During his recent visit to the Middle East, Francis invited Israeli Jewish and Muslim leaders to join him in prayer for peace for their region at the Vatican this Sunday. Israel’s Chief of State Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Abu Mazen will be joined by a delegation of rabbis, Islamic imams, and Israeli Druze community leaders, according to news reports.

This week, not only did Pope Francis hold ecumenical services in the Vatican where he prayed to the moon god of Islam, Allah, he also held high level meetings with megachurch pastor Joel Osteen and US Senator Mike Lee who was there to represent the Mormon church. The actors have taken the stage, with more still arriving, in the unfolding of what will one day soon be the wildest bible prophecy ever told – the Great Tribulation.

Joel Osteen was enthralled with the fact that Pope Francis is so inclusive:

    ““I like the fact that this pope is trying to make the church larger, not smaller. He’s not pushing people out but making the church more inclusive. That resonated with me,” Osteen told the Houston Chronicle.

The Christian Post reports that according to Westmont College, Francis had invited more than a dozen “North American Protestant leaders” to discuss the question: “Can we find common ground in order to advance the life and ministry of Jesus so more people can experience the joy of Christian faith?”

     The ecumenical meeting was a part of Pope Francis’ on-going efforts to bring unity among Christians, previously stating in public remarks, “Divisions among us, but also divisions among the communities: evangelical Christians, orthodox Christians, Catholic Christians, but why divided? We must try to bring about unity.”

However, Pope Francis’s call for unity goes beyond the Christian community. During his recent visit to the Middle East, Francis invited Israeli Jewish and Muslim leaders to join him in prayer for peace for their region at the Vatican this Sunday. Israel’s Chief of State Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Abu Mazen will be joined by a delegation of rabbis, Islamic imams, and Israeli Druze community leaders, according to news reports.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=22485


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 09, 2014, 05:29:49 pm
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This week, not only did Pope Francis hold ecumenical services in the Vatican where he prayed to the moon god of Islam, Allah, he also held high level meetings with megachurch pastor Joel Osteen and US Senator Mike Lee who was there to represent the Mormon church. The actors have taken the stage, with more still arriving, in the unfolding of what will one day soon be the wildest bible prophecy ever told – the Great Tribulation.

FYI, Sen Lee is not only a Mormon(and I believe his father is a leader somewhere in the Mormon church), but he's also embraced by the "truth" movement(ie-he's been on Alex Jones' show).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on June 09, 2014, 08:20:56 pm
Wow, Frankie moves fast! :o


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 13, 2014, 07:06:12 pm
Pope Condemns Religious Fundamentalism, Middle East Violence

In wide-reaching interview Pope Francis says he's worried about sectarianism worldwide, will 'ask God' about retirement.

Pope Francis strongly condemned violence in the Middle East Friday, in an interview with  the Vatican correspondent of Barcelona-based daily La Vanguardia.

Following his first visit to the Middle East as pope last month, the pontiff criticised fundamentalism in Christianity, Islam and Judaism as a form of violence.   

"A fundamentalist group, even if it kills no one, even it strikes no one, is violent. The mental structure of fundamentalism is violence in the name of God."   

That is true born again Christians

Asked about religious violence in the Middle East, Francis, who made his first visit to the region as pope last month, said it was a "contradiction".

"Violence in God's name does not fit with our times. It is something old. With historical perspective, we have to say that we Christians, at times, have practiced it," he was quoted as saying.

"Today it is unimaginable."

'It's madness'

Anti-Semitism, the pope claimed, seemed to be linked more to the right-wing than to the left, though he could not explain why.

"And it still continues. We even have people who deny the Holocaust, which is madness."

Pope Francis also said he was worried about drives for independence in lands such as Scotland and Catalonia.

The Argentine pontiff said separatism was understandable in cases such as former colonies and the former Yugoslavia, but said these models did not apply in all cases.

"Any division worries me," he said. 

He cited cases such as Scotland, the northeastern Spanish region of Catalonia and the northern Italian region of Padania, saying these did not have the same history of "forced unity".

"There are obviously peoples with cultures so diverse that they cannot be stuck together even with glue. In the case of Yugoslavia that is very clear but I wonder where it is so clear in other cases of peoples who until now have been together," he was quoted as saying. 

'I'll ask God's advice'

Pope Francis said in an interview Friday he will ask God's advice when the time comes to consider retiring like his 87-year-old predecessor Benedict XVI. 

Benedict last year became the first pope to resign since the Middle Ages, retiring from public life to live in a former monastery inside the Vatican City walls.   

"Since we live longer, we get to an age at which we can no longer carry on with things," the 77-year-old Francis said in a wide-ranging interview with La Vanguardia's Vatican correspondent.

The pontiff said Benedict made a "great gesture" when he left his position as leader of the Church, opening the door to the possibility of emeritus popes.

"I will do the same as he did: ask the Lord to show me when the moment comes and tell me what to do, and he will tell me for sure," said the spiritual leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics.

The pope alluded to his mortality when admitting that he took a risk when he avoided riding in the closed-in "popemobile".

"I cannot greet the people and tell them I love them inside a sardine can, even if it is glass," he said, describing the protection as a "wall".

"It is true something could happen to me but let's be realistic, at my age I do not have much to lose," the pope said.

Pope Francis reserved harsh criticism for the global economic system, saying it leaves millions of young unemployed, puts money ahead of people and survives on the profits of war.

"It's madness," the pope said.

"We discard a whole generation to maintain an economic system that no longer endures, a system that to survive has to make war, as the big empires have always done," Francis said.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181689#.U5uRC7GPNpw


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 17, 2014, 09:50:48 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/why-pope-francis-canceling-events-010000168--politics.html
6/17/14
Why Is Pope Francis Canceling Events?

No one can argue that Pope Francis deserves a little break.  Since taking office in March 2013, the 77-year-old Argentinian has been on the move almost nonstop greeting his adoring public and reforming the Vatican’s many troubled institutions.

But an announcement by the Vatican’s news service on Monday that the pope will be drastically curtailing his schedule by suspending his popular Wednesday audiences in July and skipping his daily mass at the Casa Santa Marta, where he lives, has many in Rome wondering if the pope is really ok.

Many people already have tickets for the July audiences, which implies that the decision to suspend them was spontaneous, not preplanned.  Several Vatican insiders have also noted that the pope is gaining weight and breathing harder than usual, which has caused some of his close associates to warn him to slow down.  “Some in the Holy See are beginning to openly discuss concerns about Francis’ condition and asking if the Holy Father is overtaxing himself,” long-time Vatican correspondent Edward Pentin wrote after the surprising changes to his schedule.

The worries began last week, when the pope spontaneously cancelled his Monday and Tuesday engagements after his historic trip to the Holy Land and Peace prayer with leaders from Israel and Palestine, sending the Vatican press corps in Rome had a minor moment of panic.   This week’s announcement of his amended schedule has only added to the speculation that the pope’s health is suffering.

Francis, who only has one functioning lung after having part of his other lung removed due to an infection when he was younger, has been noticeably tired in recent weeks. “Close observers are noting that the Pope’s physical body may be failing to keep up with his youthful energy and vigor, especially considering he only has one fully functioning lung,” says Pentin.

By some estimates, Francis has gained as much as 20 pounds since taking office, likely because his physical activity has diminished, even though his scheduled has intensified.  “His repeated fatigue reports and weight gain suggest he may be slipping into a form of chronic heart failure common among victims of significant lung disorders,” Dr. Peter Hibberd told Newsmax.  “His immunity will be challenged when under stress, and more frequent pauses to recover from otherwise small insults—such as colds, sore throats, and minor injuries—can be expected to increase in the future unless he paces himself.”

There are no reports whether the pope has been forced to use an inhaler or take extra oxygen to help him breathe in Rome’s stifling humid summer weather, but there is rampant speculation in Rome that part of the reason he is going undercover in July is because whatever is ailing him can’t easily be hidden.   Papal confidante Cardinal Telesphonre Placidus Toppo of India told Italy’s Libero newspaper that he found the pope “very tired and fatigued” after spending time with him.  “I honestly do not know how long he might be able to sustain this pace that he’s certainly not accustomed to,” Toppo told the paper.

The Vatican has played down concerns for the pope, saying last week the pope cancelled his appointments due to a slight “indisposition” and that it was “not serious.”  Unlike his predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI, Francis will not be spending the summer in Castel Gandolfo outside of Rome, but will instead be working from his offices in Vatican City, albeit out of the public view except on Sundays when he will continue to bless the crowds who gather in St. Peter’s square at noon for his weekly Angelus—a practice that even the ailing John Paul II was able to manage until the final days of his life. Francis’s next major public appointment is now a trip to South Korea scheduled for August 13—18.

The Vatican may be brushing off concern, but even Francis seems to be fully aware of his immortality.  During an a visit to the Sant Egidio charity in Rome’s Trastevere district on Sunday, the pope braved torrential rainstorms to greet the poor, and finished the event by asking the crowds to pray for him.  “My work is unhealthy, extraordinary work and I need prayer,” he said.

And last week, when he was asked he took risks by traveling through massive crowds without the bullet-proof “sardine can” pope mobile during an interview with Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia , he said he left his fate in God’s hands.  “It’s true that anything could happen,” the pontiff replied.  “But let’s face it, at my age I don’t have much to lose.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 26, 2014, 10:24:20 am
http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/gays-and-their-children-should-not-suffer-church-bias-vatican
6/26/14
Gays and their children should not suffer Church bias: Vatican

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Roman Catholic Church must be less judgmental of homosexuals and, while still opposing gay marriage, should welcome children of gay couples into the faith with equal dignity, a Vatican document said on Thursday.

A 75-page document, a working paper for the synod of Catholic bishops planned for the Vatican in October to discuss family issues, also said the 1.2 billion member Church should become less exclusive and more humble.

The document, known by its Latin term "Instrumentum Laboris", underscored the wide gap between official Church teachings on issues of sexual morality and their acceptance and understanding by the worldwide faithful.

It was based on responses to a 39-question survey to dioceses around the world ahead of the synod. For the first time in preparation for such a meeting, the Vatican asked bishops to share the survey widely with parish priests and for them to seek the views of their parishioners.

The Church's traditional position on homosexuality has led to some cases of the children of gay people being excluded from Church activities.

While the new document did not signal any immediate change in the Church's condemnation of homosexual acts and its opposition to gay marriage and to the adoption of children by gay people, it used language that was remarkably less judgmental and more compassionate than past Vatican statements.

It said that while bishops remained opposed to governments "redefining" marriage by permitting same-sex unions, the Church had to find a balance between its teachings on the traditional family "and a respectful, non-judgmental attitude towards people living in such unions."

That phrase echoed Pope Francis' now famous words about homosexuals made on the plane taking him back from Brazil last July: "If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?"

MORE COMPASSIONATE LANGUAGE

In the past, the Vatican has referred to homosexuality as "intrinsically disordered" and part of "an intrinsic moral evil".

The Church teaches that homosexual acts are sinful but homosexual tendencies are not.

The document noted that a number of Catholics who responded to the questionnaire felt "a certain unease at the challenge of accepting these people with a merciful spirit and, at the same time, holding to the moral teaching of the Church ..."

"However, when people living in such unions request a child's baptism, almost all the responses emphasize that the child must be received with the same care, tenderness and concern which is given to other children," it said.

While Vatican officials have stressed that Church teachings against homosexual activity would not change under pressure of public opinion, the document said "many responses" called for "theological study in dialogue with the human sciences to develop a multi-faceted look at the phenomenon of homosexuality".

The document acknowledged that many Catholics had a shallow understanding of the teachings of their Church on issues such as birth control, homosexuality, divorce, remarriage, cohabitation and other issues related to the family.

Many of the respondents saw their Church as too exclusive, distant and in need of more humility.

"A conspicuously lavish lifestyle by some of the clergy shows an inconsistency between their teaching and their conduct. Some lay faithful live and practise their faith in a 'showy manner,' failing to display the truth and humility required by the gospel spirit," the document said.

It said Catholics from around the world who responded to the questions expressed concern that the sexual abuse of children by priests had "significantly" weakened the Church's moral credibility, particularly in the United States and Europe.

The bishops will discuss the paper in October and could make recommendations on changes to Church teachings, on which the Pope would decide.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 26, 2014, 03:08:05 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-pope-has-the-most-clout-among-popular-twitter-89884047789.html
The Pope Has the Most Clout Among World Leaders on Twitter
6/25/14

Pope Francis has by far the most clout of any world leader on Twitter because he is so widely retweeted, a study of political use of the social network showed on Wednesday.

With 14 million followers for the nine different language versions of his @Pontifex account, the cyber-savvy pontiff boasts just a third of those notched up by President Barack Obama.

But that is not the key measure, said Matthias Lüfkens, who steers the annual Twiplomacy survey.

“It’s not the number of followers which is really important, but the reach, the engagement,” he said.

The real benchmark is tweets retweeted by followers to their own network.

Pope Francis wins hands down, with his Spanish-language tweets retweeted more than 10,000 times on average and his English-language tweets more than 6,400 times.


Obama’s 2012 election victory tweet — a photograph of him embracing first lady Michelle Obama and the words “Four more years” — was retweeted a massive 806,066 times.

But on average, @BarackObama gets 1,400 retweets.

Obama’s use of social media is credited as a key factor in his landmark 2008 election.

The @BarackObama account, created in 2007, has 43.7 million followers, but is not a U.S. presidential feed and is run by his political campaign staff.

The official @WhiteHouse account has more than 4.9 million followers, putting it fifth in the global pecking order, just behind the account of India’s new Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and Indonesia’s President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who has 5 million.

@White House was narrowly overtaken on Wednesday by @narendramodi.

“Modi’s seen a stratospheric rise,” said Lüfkens.

Modi, the 63-year-old son of a low-caste tea seller, distances himself from the Delhi elite.

But he is notably tech-aware and has won plaudits from Twitter-watchers for his strategic deployment of it.

Indian officialdom’s social media use is a hot topic, as Modi seeks to promote Hindi as the government’s official language online, sparking stiff opposition.

While he speaks mostly in Hindi, used by some 40 percent of Indians, Modi’s tweets are always in English, preferred for business in a nation with 22 official languages.

Modi, elected in May in a landslide vote, scored 24,000 retweets for his own “India has won!” victory message.

Otherwise, he averages 557.

Lüfken is a social media expert at communications firm Burson-Marsteller, which produces the Twiplomacy study.

He said that while television remains the key channel to hit the widest audience, Twitter is an increasingly-powerful tool.

“It helps you to broadcast, and if you broadcast to the right audience, that has huge impact,” he said.

The social network enables politicians to create a sense of intimacy and even to interact with one another in public — sometimes in an undiplomatic manner, seen in a Ukraine-themed tweet fight between the Russian foreign ministry and leaders from Estonia and Sweden.

Twitter is also a tool for leaders to follow one another mutually — a statement in itself.

France’s foreign minister follows 91 peers and world leaders who return the favor via his @LaurentFabius account, putting him at the top of the Twiplomacy table.

Next was the EU’s foreign service account @eu_eeas, with 71 mutual connections, and the Swedish foreign minister, with 68 via his @CarlBildt account.

The @WhiteHouse and @BarackObama follow only three peers: the prime ministers of Russia and Norway, and the British government.

Despite taking to Twitter with gusto, politicians are light-years behind celebrities.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 27, 2014, 06:18:25 pm
http://www.trunews.com/trunews-exclusive-pope-francis-meets-evangelical-delegation/
TRUNEWS Exclusive: Pope Francis Meets Evangelical Delegation
6/27/14

Two prominent Fort Worth-based Christian ministers led a delegation of Evangelical Christian leaders to Rome to meet privately with Pope Francis.

James and Betty Robison, co-hosts of the Life Today television program, and Kenneth Copeland, co-host of Believer’s Voice of Victory, met the Roman Pontiff at the Vatican on Tuesday.  The meeting lasted almost three hours and included a private luncheon with Pope Francis.

Mr. Robison told the Fort Worth Star Telegram, “This meeting was a miracle…. This is something God has done. God wants his arms around the world. And he wants Christians to put his arms around the world by working together.”

Mr. Robison said he was impressed by Pope Francis’ humility and courtesy to the visiting delegation of Evangelical Protestant Christian leaders.

In a written statement, Mr. Robison said he believes “the prayers of earnest Christians helped lead to the choice of Pope Francis.”  He described Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the Argentine Archbishop chosen as Pope, as “a humble man…filled with such love for the poor, downtrodden…”

In addition to Mrs. Betty Robison, the high-profile Protestant delegation included Kenneth Copeland, co-founder of Kenneth Copeland Ministries in Newark, TX; Reverend Geoff Tunnicliff, CEO of the World Evangelical Alliance; Rev. Brian Stiller and Rev. Thomas Schirrmacher, also from the World Evangelical Alliance; and Rev. John Arnott and his wife, Carol, co-founders of Partners for Harvest ministries in Toronto, Canada.  Gloria Copeland did not travel to Rome because of a previously scheduled commitment.

Read more at http://www.trunews.com/trunews-exclusive-pope-francis-meets-evangelical-delegation/#Ud4GFO6vZyp98wqR.99


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 29, 2014, 09:04:04 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pop-icon-elton-john-calls-pope-francis-wonderful-173457364.html
Pop icon Elton John calls Pope Francis "wonderful"
6/29/14

London (AFP) - British musician Elton John described Pope Francis as "wonderful" in an interview on Sunday in which he said Jesus would support gay marriage.

A top-selling pop star and one of the world's most prominent gay celebrities, John said the leader of the Catholic Church was a sign of hope.

"He's excited me so much by his humanity and taking everything down to the humility of faith...it's all basically about love and taking everybody in inclusiveness," John told Sky News.

Francis has appeared to strike a more conciliatory tone towards homosexuals than his predecessors since his election last year.

John said that gay members of the clergy should be able to wed and that he believed Jesus Christ would be in favour of gay marriage, which became legal in Britain in March.


"If Jesus Christ was alive today, I cannot see him... saying this could not happen," the pop star said.

"He was all about love and compassion and forgiveness and trying to bring people together and that is what the Church should be about."

John plans to marry his partner David Furnish next year in a "quiet" ceremony. The couple have two children together.

The entertainer, who has used his position as a prominent celebrity to speak out in support of gay rights, said he hoped to meet with President Vladimir Putin to discuss the issue on a trip to Russia later this year.

Putin earlier this year said that millions of Russians loved John "despite his orientation" in an attempt to defuse criticism over a law banning the dissemination of so-called "gay propaganda" to minors.

"I may not achieve anything but I have to try. There are so many people out there living a life of hell," John said. "As long as I'm alive I will fight for people's rights."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 29, 2014, 09:38:34 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-communists-closet-christians-142947603.html
Pope says communists are closet Christians
6/29/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis, whose criticisms of unbridled capitalism have prompted some to label him a Marxist, said in an interview published on Sunday that communists had stolen the flag of Christianity.

The 77-year-old pontiff gave an interview to Il Messaggero, Rome's local newspaper, to mark the feast of Saints Peter and Paul, a Roman holiday.

He was asked about a blog post in the Economist magazine that said he sounded like a Leninist when he criticized capitalism and called for radical economic reform.

"I can only say that the communists have stolen our flag. The flag of the poor is Christian. Poverty is at the center of the Gospel," he said, citing Biblical passages about the need to help the poor, the sick and the needy.

"Communists say that all this is communism. Sure, twenty centuries later. So when they speak, one can say to them: 'but then you are Christian'," he said, laughing.

Since his election in March 2013, Francis has often attacked the global economic system as being insensitive to the poor and not doing enough to share wealth with those who need it most.

Earlier this month, he criticized the wealth made from financial speculation as intolerable and said speculation on commodities was a scandal that compromised the poor's access to food.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on June 30, 2014, 06:17:41 am
"If Jesus Christ was alive today, I cannot see him... saying this could not happen," the pop star said.

"He was all about love and compassion and forgiveness and trying to bring people together and that is what the Church should be about."

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.


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Pope says communists are closet Christians

Seriously? Closet Catholics maybe, since the Jesuits started communism...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 05, 2014, 03:39:45 pm
What Frankie is saying is that "we need to target the youth"(which is exactly what Nazi Germany did with the youth).

Video: http://news.yahoo.com/video/not-lose-generation-young-people-194051833.html

"We do not lose a generation of young people"- Pope Francis
Reuters Videos 1:04 mins

Pope Francis greets as many people as possible on his one day visit to Molise, asking the community to ensure young people don't become a lost generation. Rough Cut (no reporter narration).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 05, 2014, 04:17:23 pm
http://www.wucnews.com/2014/07/pope-francis-warns-any-personal.html
POPE Francis Warns ANY "Personal Relationship with Jesus is Dangerous"
20 Pope Francis 10:55 AM

Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

Every Christian, he said, can trace his or her faith back to parents, grandparents, teachers or friends. "I always remember the nun who taught me catechism. I know she's in heaven because she was a holy woman," he said.

Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."

Obviously, he said, it is not always easy to walk the path of faith with other people. "Sometimes it's tiring. It can happen that a brother or sister creates problems for us or scandalizes us, but the Lord entrusted his message of salvation to human beings, to us, to witnesses," he said.

"It is through our brothers and sisters with their gifts and their limits," the pope said, "that he comes to us and makes himself known. This is what belonging to the church means. Remember: Being Christian means belonging to the church. If your first name is Christian, your last name is Member of the Church."

At the end of his talk, the pope asked people to join him in praying that they would never "give into the temptation of thinking you can do without others, without the church, that you can save yourself, of thinking you can be a laboratory Christian."

Christians, he said, are not manufactured in isolation, but belong to a long line of believers who handed on the faith and challenged one another to live it fully.

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Scriptures say otherwise...

Ephesians 4:4  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Eph 4:7  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
Eph 4:8  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9  (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10  He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12  For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14  That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15  But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16  From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
Eph 4:17  This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
Eph 4:18  Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
Eph 4:19  Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
Eph 4:20  But ye have not so learned Christ;
Eph 4:21  If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
Eph 4:22  That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Eph 4:23  And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph 4:24  And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on July 06, 2014, 02:58:07 pm
The things that Francis says continue to baffle me.

It won't be long now. I know I've said that before, but this guy just gives me the creeps... Definitely false prophet material.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 11, 2014, 06:31:13 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-makes-generation-cardinal-head-key-german-archdiocese-104952488.html
Vatican makes 'new generation' cardinal head of key German archdiocese
7/11/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican has appointed the archbishop of Berlin, seen by German media as part of a "new generation" of less dogmatic clergy, to take over the Cologne archdiocese, the largest and richest in Germany, it said on Friday.

The move makes Rainer Maria Woelki, who turns 58 next month, one of the most influential Roman Catholic cardinals and is an indication of the type of person Pope Francis wants to see in prominent Church roles.

Berlin's Tagesspiegel newspaper called him "the prototype of a new generation of bishops ... not grumpy and dogmatic ... these men speak of mercy and mean it. They're open to people, even their critics, to a point and have a heart for the disadvantaged. Still, they're theologically conservative."

Woelki is a Cologne native and served there for years under his retired predecessor, the staunchly conservative Cardinal Joachim Meisner, before becoming bishop of Berlin in 2011.

When his Berlin appointment was announced, some politicians and Catholics in Berlin said he was too conservative for a city with such a large gay community, pointing to comments he had made that homosexuality was against “the order of creation”.

They also noted that he did his doctorate in theology at a pontifical university in Rome run by the conservative Catholic movement Opus Dei.

But Woekli surprised Berliners by saying he respected all people and would gladly meet with gay activists.

A year later, in 2012, he said: "If two homosexuals take responsibility for each other, if they are loyal to each other over the long term, then one should see this in the same way as heterosexual relations."


Berlin's Alliance against Homophobia nominated him for its Respect Prize that year, an honor he politely declined by saying it was normal for a Christian to respect all people so he should not receive an award for it.

In July 2013, the newly elected Pope Francis changed the tone of Vatican comments on homosexuality in comments on the plane returning from a visit to Brazil, saying, "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge him?"

The German Catholic Church is one of the richest in the world and helps fund Vatican activities as well as missionary work in poor countries.

Its financial strength and long history of theologians and leading Church personalities, including the now retired Pope Benedict, give it considerable influence in the Vatican.

Cardinal Reinhard Marx, head of Germany's other powerful archdiocese, Munich, is a member of the pope's group of cardinals working out proposed reforms for the worldwide Church.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 14, 2014, 02:50:12 pm
Vatican Reeling As Pope Francis Admits There Is An Army Of Over 8,000 **** Priests

Pope Francis was quoted as saying there are around 8,000 **** priests stationed around the globe

In a BBC interview that the Vatican is struggling to spin, Pope Francis took the highly unusual step of actually admitting that there are thousands and thousands of **** priests in the Catholic Church worldwide. By their estimates about 8,000. This mind-numbing admission has sent shock-waves through the highest levels of the Vatican system.

In the interview, Pope Francis was quoted as saying that the 2% estimate came from advisers. It would represent around 8,000 child-abusing priests out of a global number of about 414,000. While the incidence of pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder in the general population is not accurately known, some estimates have put it at less than five percent.

    “Among the 2% who are pedophiles are priests, bishops and cardinals. Others, more numerous, know but keep quiet. They punish without giving the reason,” Pope Francis was quoted as saying.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi denied that Pope Francis had said that there were cardinals who were pedophiles. Father Lombardi also denied that these were the Pope’s exact words.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=23381


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 28, 2014, 06:35:17 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/28/pope-francis-pentecostal_n_5627430.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
7/28/14
Pope Francis Becomes First Pope To Visit A Pentecostal Church In Outreach To Evangelicals

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope Francis has become the first pope to visit a Pentecostal church, pressing his outreach to evangelicals who represent Catholicism's greatest competition for Christian souls around the globe.

Francis flew by helicopter Monday to visit the under-construction Pentecostal Church of Reconciliation in the southern city of Caserta. He met privately with a Pentecostal preacher who is an old friend, Giovanni Traettino.

Speaking to some 350 Pentecostal faithful in the church, Francis apologized for Catholic persecution of Pentecostals during Italy's fascist regime and stressed that there was unity in diversity within Christianity.

He acknowledged the remarkable nature of his visit, saying: "Someone will be surprised: 'The pope went to visit the evangelicals?' But he went to see his brothers."

Francis has met unofficially with several Pentecostal and evangelical preachers recently.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 30, 2014, 12:16:26 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/republicans-bill-pope-francis_n_5634132.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
7/30/14
Pope Francis May Be 'Too Liberal' For House Republicans To Honor

A bipartisan resolution written to honor Pope Francis for his work towards social justice appears to be mired in Congress, reportedly due to his reputation among Republicans as being "too liberal," according to The Hill. The pope is expected to visit the United States in 2015 for the Catholic Church's World Meeting of Families, which will be held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), a Catholic, warmly invited Pope Francis to address Congress in a statement made in March 2014. However, House Resolution 440, which recognizes the pope's “inspirational statements and actions" and congratulates him on his election, was referred to the House Foreign Affairs Committee in December 2013 and has been languishing there ever since.

Out of the 221 co-sponsors of the resolution, a mere 19 are GOP members. A Republican supporter of the bill told The Hill that the lack of enthusiasm could be due to the belief that the pope is "too liberal," a perception drawn largely from his criticism of unfettered capitalism and trickle-down economics as well as his calls for a more equal distribution of wealth.

The Republican source told The Hill that some GOP members think Pope Francis is "sounding like [President] Obama. [The pope] talks about equality — he actually used the term ‘trickle-down economics,’ which is politically charged."

With the clock ticking on the legislative calendar, the writers of the resolution, Reps. John Larson (D-Connecticut) and Pete King (R-New York), sent a letter to Boehner on Friday to ask him to put it to a vote.

“To my knowledge this would be an historic first. I ask that you take a look at a bipartisan resolution introduced by Representative Peter King and myself, acknowledging the first Pope from the Americas ... it is my sincere hope that you will consider this resolution for the suspension calendar for a vote,” Larson wrote in the letter obtained by The Hill.

Boehner's March invitation said in part:

    His tireless call for the protection of the most vulnerable among us—the ailing, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the impoverished, the unborn—has awakened hearts on every continent.

    His social teachings, rooted in ‘the joy of the gospel,’ have prompted careful reflection and vigorous dialogue among people of all ideologies and religious views in the United States and throughout a rapidly changing world, particularly among those who champion human dignity, freedom, and social justice.

    These principles are among the fundamentals of the American Idea. And though our nation sometimes fails to live up to these principles, at our best we give them new life as we seek the common good. Many in the United States believe these principles are undermined by ‘crony capitalism’ and the ongoing centralization of political power in the institutions of our federal government, which threaten to disrupt the delicate balance between the twin virtues of subsidiarity and solidarity.

According to The Hill, the resolution's supporters see it as a more formal acknowledgment of Pope Francis that goes beyond the open invitation originally extended. “The Speaker’s invited him to speak, it would give it more significance if there was an actual official resolution about it,” said King.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 30, 2014, 05:53:23 pm
http://www.examiner.com/article/vatican-preparing-statement-on-extraterrestrial-life?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Vatican preparing statement on extraterrestrial life

7/23/14

Pope Francis is reportedly preparing a major world statement about extraterrestrial life and its theological implications. Rosana Ubanell from Voxxi News today reported that due to advances in scientific detection methods for the discovery of extraterrestrial life, Pope Francis wants to be ready with a statement about “First Contact”. Ubanell reports that details have yet to be officially announced but that the Vatican’s interest in extraterrestrial life is well documented through recent astrobiology conferences the Vatican Observatory has sponsored or participated in. Father Guy Consolmagno, a Jesuit astronomer and one of the leading Catholic proponents for preparing for the scientific discovery of extraterrestrial life, on July 18, won the Carl Sagan science medal from the American Astronomical Society. Pope Francis, a fellow Jesuit, regularly consults with Consolmagno and other leading Vatican astronomers about scientific issues. It is likely that Pope Francis is preparing an “Urbi et Orbi” speech – Latin for “to the city [of Rome] and the world” – about First Contact with extraterrestrial life.

The Vatican’s scientific interest in extraterrestrial life was publicly revealed for the first time in May 2008 when the head of the Vatican Observatory, Fr Gabriel Funes, also a Jesuit, gave an interview to the Vatican newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano. Funes made a series of startling statements about how extraterrestrial life is likely to be more ethically evolved than humans, and can be welcomed as brothers. In his interview, which was titled "The extraterrestrial is my brother," Funes said that intelligent extraterrestrial life may not have experienced a ‘fall’, and may be “free from Original Sin … [remaining] in full friendship with their creator.” This makes it possible to regard them as ‘our brothers’ as Funes explained:

    Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom… "Why can't we speak of a 'brother extraterrestrial'? It would still be part of creation…

Most importantly, Funes’ statement makes possible the idea that Christianity can be exported to extraterrestrial worlds that have not experienced a ‘fall’ and are free from original sin.

Just over a year after his interview, Funes was the organizer of the first ever Astrobiology Symposium held by Pontifical Academy of Sciences in November 2009. Consolmagno and Funes have ever since played leading roles for the Vatican Observatory in presenting a theological perspective on the discovery of extraterrestrial life. Most importantly, both have been leading advisors to Pope Francis about scientific issues concerning the discovery of extraterrestrial life.

What is likely to be the content of Pope Francis' upcoming statement or possible “Urbi et Orbi” speech about alien life? An important clue is a forthcoming presentation by Fr. Consolmagno at a September 18-19, 2014, astrobiology symposium organized by NASA and the Library of Congress that is titled: “Preparing for Discovery: A Rational Approach to the Implications of Finding Microbial, Complex or Intelligent Life Beyond Earth.”

Consolmagno is a featured presenter and will discuss the theological implications of discovering alien life. His topic, “Would You Baptize an Extraterrestrial?” suggests that Pope Francis agrees that extraterrestrials are capable of the higher ethics involved in understanding the Christian message and becoming Christians.

If Pope Francis is indeed preparing a statement about extraterrestrial life, it is likely to emphasize that there is no incompatibility in Christian teachings with a belief in extraterrestrial life as Fr. Funes proposed in May 2008. More importantly, Pope Francis is likely to emphasize themes of extraterrestrials: not sharing in original sin; being more ethically evolved; and being capable of sharing the Christian message, and being our brothers.

Not all will welcome a statement from Pope Francis advocating extraterrestrials as brothers and worthy of being baptized into the Christian faith. According to Chris Putnam and Tom Horn, authors of Exovaticana, Pope Francis I is preparing to lead the Catholic Church to embrace aliens as “brothers in Christ” – reflective of the 1950s and 1960s contactee reports of benevolent “space brothers.” Putnam’s and Horn’s Exovaticana portends a future religious war between those accepting extraterrestrials as “brothers in Christ” and those believing them to be returning demons about to enslave us. Despite the extensive scholarship found in Exovaticana, it unfortunately skews data towards an overly negative assessment of the motivations of extraterrestrial visitors. Thankfully, the Vatican’s evolving public position, as reflected by statements from its leading astronomers, shows a far more enlightened stance on how to consider the discovery of alien life from a theological perspective. A statement or “Urbi et Orbi” speech from Pope Francis expounding on various themes associated with the view that extraterrestrials are potential “brothers in Christ’ is a welcome position to take on a controversial issue with major world significance.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 15, 2014, 01:29:31 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/papal-visit-underscores-religious-divide-koreas-061858279.html
Papal visit underscores religious divide in Koreas
8/15/14

TOKYO (AP) — Yes, North Korea has Catholics. It even has a Catholic church.

But while Pope Francis is being welcomed by millions of South Korean Catholics, Christianity has been largely quashed north of the border and, as a string of recent arrests suggest, would-be missionaries there face severe risks amid a North-South religious divide that is perhaps wider than ever.

The church in North Korea is under tight government control and is not recognized by the Vatican. Indeed, services there would be hardly recognizable as Catholic to outsiders.

Inside North Korea's one cathedral are crosses, but no crucifixes. Weekly services feature hymns and prayers offered in a highly formalized manner, but there are no sacraments. Nor are there priests: State-appointed laymen officiate services.


**Kind of like here in America with the 501c3 "church"...

Officials in Pyongyang had no immediate comment on Francis' five-day South Korea visit. Just an hour before the pope arrived in Seoul on Thursday, North Korea launched three short-range projectiles into the ocean. It later said the timing was meant to mark the anniversary of its liberation from Japan.

A rocket researcher quoted by North Korea's main news agency dismissed the idea that the launches had anything to do with the pope as "nonsensical."

"I just wonder why, among all the numerous days of the year ... the Roman pope chose to visit Korea on the day when we carried out the test-firing of our latest tactical rocket," the Korean Central News Agency quoted Kim In Yong as saying.

North Korea quickly rejected an invitation to join in a peace and reconciliation Mass that Francis will celebrate Monday in Seoul. The North slapped down the invitation not on religious grounds, but with complaints about South Korea's participation in military exercises with the United States.

"We feel deeply sorry about the outcome but we will continue to pray for another chance to celebrate the holy Mass with the North Korean faithful," Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said.

Compared with South Korea, where there are more than 5 million Catholics, estimates of the size of the North Korean Catholic flock range from 800 to about 3,000.

The lower estimates come from the United Nations Human Rights Commission, which recently cited the lack of religious freedom in the North as one example of its poor human rights record. The higher estimate comes from the Korean Catholic Association, a North Korean government-controlled body that is responsible for all official information about the church and coordinates a weekly service for followers.

Before the advent of the North Korean regime, Pyongyang had more Christians than any other city in Korea and was known as the "Korean Jerusalem." Seen as fertile ground for missionary work, Pyongyang also had a seated bishop.

Most of that presence was erased by the early 1950s, and the North has kept a tight lid on all Christian activities in the country since. No Holy See-sanctioned church institutions or priests operate in North Korea, and the country's one Catholic church, the Changchung Cathedral in Pyongyang, is not supported by the Vatican.

Son Jung-hun, a 49-year-old human rights activist in Seoul who was born and raised in Pyongyang before defecting to the South at age 35, said regular people in Pyongyang cannot go to the Catholic church and participate in services.

"The Catholics in Pyongyang would not know about the pope's visit to South Korea, the history of South Korean Catholicism and the significance of the pope's visit," Son said. "Senior government officials who work in foreign affairs and others know about the pope's visit, but average citizens will never know."

Being a Catholic, per se, is not illegal. Article 14 of the 1948 constitution states that citizens "shall have the freedom of religious belief and of conducting religious services." But because the ideals of Christianity — and the worship of Jesus — are not in line with North Korea's rigorously enforced political ideology, believers are considered suspect. The same holds true for most other religious groups, though Christianity is seen as a larger threat.

Lionel Jensen, an associate professor of East Asian Languages and Cultures at the University of Notre Dame, said that although the public practice of Catholicism is minimal, there is believed to be a much larger movement of Christians who practice their faith privately.

"If news of the papal visit to Seoul has gotten out to the people of North Korea, I can only speculate that the quiet Catholics among them would be enthused," said Jensen. "My best sense is that there is cognizance of the visit but very few would be willing to speak publicly about this."

The North has recently taken a hard line on foreigners allegedly trying to spread Christianity.

Korean-American missionary Kenneth Bae has been held since November 2012 and is serving 15 years of hard labor for what North Korea says were hostile acts against the state. In March, it deported an Australian missionary. American Jeffrey Fowle is now being detained for allegedly leaving a Bible in a nightclub in the northern port city of Chongjin.

In May, North Korea sentenced a South Korean Baptist missionary to hard labor for life for allegedly spying and trying to set up underground churches.


"Pray for our brothers in the North," Francis said Friday, as he led several thousand young Catholics in South Korea in a moment of silent prayer for unification.

**Francis is craftily trying to unite all of the religions in one fold(acting as a "friend" now to the persecuted Christians - something the previous Popes really never did.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on August 21, 2014, 07:26:28 am
Frank wants a crusade...

Pope Francis Says Radical Islam Must Be Stopped

 Pope Francis has stated that the international community must stop Islamic State militants on their quest for power and influence. The Pope says that it is the responsibility of all nations to unite against the extremists, not just one country to fight the evil alone.
 
Francis did not say outright that airstrikes and bombs were the correct method to stop Islamic extremism, but he did not condemn the method either.
 
"In these cases, where there is an unjust aggression, I can only say that it is legitimate to stop the unjust aggressor," Francis said.
 
"I underscore the verb 'to stop'. I am not saying 'bomb' or 'make war', but stop him (the aggressor). The means by which he can be stopped must be evaluated. Stopping the unjust aggressor is legitimate," he added.
 
Pope Francis said he was willing to travel to Iraq himself, but felt that the timing was not right for a visit to the nation. A senior cardinal is currently serving in Iraq on behalf of the Vatican, distributing funds and ministering to refugees.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/pope-francis-says-radical-islam-must-be-stopped.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 22, 2014, 02:21:09 am
http://news.msn.com/world/pope-urges-fraternal-dialogue-with-china-others
Pope urges "fraternal" dialogue with China, others
8/18/14

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Pope Francis made a new gesture of outreach to China and North Korea on Sunday, saying he "earnestly" hopes to improve relations and insisting that the Catholic Church isn't coming in as a "conquerer" trying to take away the identity of others.

Francis outlined his priorities for the Catholic Church in Asia during a meeting of the region's bishops Sunday, urging them to listen to people of different cultures but still remain true to their own Catholic identity.

"In this spirit of openness to others, I earnestly hope that those countries of your continent with whom the Holy See does not yet enjoy a full relationship may not hesitate to further a dialogue for the benefit of all," he said.

Then deviating from his text, he added: "I'm not talking here only about a political dialogue, but about a fraternal dialogue," he said. "These Christians aren't coming as conquerors, they aren't trying to take away our identity." He said the important thing was to "walk together."

The comments appeared to be a clear reference to China, which severed diplomatic relations with the Holy See in 1951. But they could also apply to North Korea, where the church is under tight government control and is not recognized by the Vatican. There are similarly no diplomatic relations between Pyongyang and the Vatican.

Francis has already broken ground with Beijing on his first Asian trip by sending greetings to President Xi Jinping when he flew through Chinese airspace. He also sent Xi a letter after the two of them were elected within hours of one another in March 2013, and received a reply.

China cut relations with the Vatican after the Communist Party took power and set up its own church outside the pope's authority. China persecuted the church for years until restoring a degree of religious freedom and freeing imprisoned priests in the late 1970s. The Vatican under then-Pope Benedict XVI sought to improve ties by seeking to unify the state-sanctioned church with the underground church still loyal to Rome.

For the Vatican, the main stumbling block remains the insistence of the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association on naming bishops without papal consent. For China, the naming of bishops is a matter of its national sovereignty, while it also objects that the Holy See has diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

Upon his arrival in Seoul on Thursday, Francis called for peace and unity on the Korean peninsula, urging diplomacy so that listening and dialogue replace "mutual recriminations, fruitless criticisms and displays of force."

A day later he stressed that Koreans are one people, "a family," and that those in the South should pray for their brothers and sisters in the North.

Francis' diplomatic outreach Sunday followed another gesture of solidarity earlier in the morning: He baptized the father of one of the victims of the Sewol ferry sinking, in which more than 300 people, most of them high school students, lost their lives.

Lee Ho Jin, whose son was killed, took the Christian name "Francis" during the rite, which the pope administered in the Vatican's embassy in Seoul, according to the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi.

Lee had been one of a dozen relatives of victims and survivors of the April ferry sinking who met privately with the pope Friday. He asked to be baptized and Francis agreed.

Francis has gone out of his way to show support for the Sewol ferry families, who are demanding an independent inquiry into the sinking. Aside from meeting publicly and privately with them, he has worn a symbolic yellow ribbon on his cassock in solidarity.

Lombardi has said Francis isn't getting involved in their demands for a parliamentary inquiry, but is merely offering them support and prayers. He said Francis was particularly pleased to have been asked to perform a baptism since Korea's Catholic Church has been growing steadily thanks in large part to an unusually high number of adult baptisms each year.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 05, 2014, 09:33:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkFiaBL92sE


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 12, 2014, 04:30:16 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-marry-couples-kids-cohabitating-200905465.html
Pope to marry couples with kids, cohabitating
9/12/14

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis is making good on his insistence that the Catholic Church welcome all faithful — not just those who obey church teaching perfectly. He'll marry 20 couples this weekend, including some who already live together and those with children, technically a sin in the eyes of the church.

Sunday's mass wedding in St. Peter's Basilica was timed to coincide with the start of a major two-year study by the Vatican of a host of issues affecting family life, including premarital sex, contraception and divorce. No major changes in church teaching are foreseen, but Francis has made clear that he wants people in "irregular" partnerships to feel fully a part of the church.

The diocese of Rome, which is organizing the ceremony, said the 20 couples being married range in age from those in their mid-20s to those in their 50s and include "those who are already living together, those who already have children, those who met in church."

Francis already set a precedent of sorts back in January when he baptized the child of a couple who hadn't married in the church, but only in a civil ceremony.

His decision to marry couples who are technically living in sin is another sign of his desire for a more merciful and forgiving church that cares less about morals and rules than it does about the conversion of souls.

Francis has frequently lamented that many people today think marriage is just a temporary arrangement and not a lifelong commitment.

"You're the courageous ones, because you have to have courage to get married today," he told newlyweds who attended his Wednesday general audience last week, dressed in their bridal whites and tuxedos.

St. John Paul II presided over public weddings twice during his pontificate — in 1994 and in 2000. Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI didn't celebrate the sacrament during his pontificate.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 14, 2014, 09:26:11 am
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101997996
Pope Francis warns 'piecemeal' World War III has begun
Saturday, 13 Sep 2014 | 7:06 AM ETReuters

Pope Francis said on Saturday the spate of conflicts around the globe today were effectively a "piecemeal" Third World War, condemning the arms trade and "plotters of terrorism" sowing death and destruction.

"Humanity needs to weep and this is the time to weep," Francis said in the homily of a Mass during a visit to Italy's largest war memorial, a large, Fascist-era monument where more than 100,000 soldiers who died in World War One are buried.

The pope began his brief visit to northern Italy by first praying in a nearby, separate cemetery for some 15,000 soldiers from five nations of the Austro-Hungarian empire which were on the losing side of the Great War that broke out 100 years ago.

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"War is madness," he said in his homily before the massive, sloping granite memorial, made of 22 steps on the side of hill with three crosses at the top.

"Even today, after the second failure of another world war, perhaps one can speak of a third war, one fought piecemeal, with crimes, massacres, destruction," he said.

    "Humanity needs to weep and this is the time to weep" -Pope Francis

In the past few months, Francis has made repeated appeals for an end to conflicts in Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Gaza and parts of Africa.

"War is irrational; its only plan is to bring destruction: it seeks to grow by destroying," he said. "Greed, intolerance, the lust for power. These motives underlie the decision to go to war and they are too often justified by an ideology ...," he said.

Read MoreObama calls for 'systematic' campaign against ISIS

Last month the pope, who has often condemned the concept of war in God's name, said it would be legitimate for the international community to use force to stop "unjust aggression" by Islamic State militants who have killed or displaced thousands of people in Iraq and Syria, many of them Christians.

In his homily, read at a somber service to thousands of people braving the rain and which included the hauntingly funereal sound of a solitary bugle, Francis condemned "plotters of terrorism" but did not elaborate.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 15, 2014, 01:09:33 am
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/566236/20140915/pope-francis-catholic-doctrine-st-peter-s.htm#.VBac8xbt928
9/15/14
Pope Francis Blasted For Defying Catholic Doctrine, Marries 20 Couples Who Have Cohabited And Had Children In No Else But St Peter's Basilica



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 20, 2014, 09:03:07 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-orders-review-annulment-process-simplify-procedure-143800445.html
Pope orders review of annulment process to simplify procedure
9/20/14

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis has ordered a review aimed at simplifying the Church's procedures for annulments, the Vatican said on Saturday, a move that could make it easier for Catholics to end marriages.

A statement said Francis had appointed an 11-member commission of canon lawyers and theologians to propose reform of the process, "seeking to simplify and streamline it while safeguarding the principle of the indissolubility of marriage".

An annulment, formally known as a "decree of nullity," is a ruling that a marriage was not valid in the first place according to Church law because certain pre-requisites, such as free will, psychological maturity and openness to having children, were lacking.

In the past decades many within the 1.2 billion-member Church have complained that the procedure is too complicated and archaic.

Most annulments take place at the local diocesan level. Each decision must be reviewed by a second tribunal, a step reformers say is superfluous and should be eliminated.

The Church does not recognize divorce. Catholics who divorce and re-marry outside the Church are considered to be still married to their first spouse and living in a state of sin, which bars them from receiving sacraments such as communion.

The situation of divorced and remarried Catholics who want to fully participate in the Church is a topic of great debate, particularly in countries such as the United States and Germany, and will be a main theme at a synod of bishops from around the world at the Vatican next month.

Progressive bishops have said the Church should be more merciful with people with failed first marriages even if they have not been annulled and Francis has indicated he is open to change.

Francis demonstrated this openness last week when he married 20 couples, some of whom had already lived together and had children. He led each pair through their vows one by one at St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 20, 2014, 09:08:28 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/security-upped-vatican-over-attack-fears-080254865.html
9/20/14
Security upped at Vatican over attack fears

Rome (AFP) - Security has been tightened in Saint Peter's Square after intelligence services intercepted a possible plan to attack the Vatican, Italian media reported Saturday, increasing fears Pope Francis could be in danger.

A foreign security service alerted Italy this week after intercepting a conversation between two Arab speakers which referred to "a demonstrative act, Wednesday, at the Vatican," Il Messaggero daily reported.

Wednesday is the day the pope holds his weekly general audience in the square in front of Saint Peter's Basilica.

Checks by Italy's anti-terrorism unit revealed that one of the speakers passed through the country eight months ago, heightening concerns the threat may be real.

Earlier warnings that the Islamic State extremists may be plotting to attack the pope have been shrugged off by the Vatican, but security has nonetheless been increased for his Wednesday and Sunday audiences, the paper said.

The Repubblica daily said plain clothes special operations officers with sniffer dogs trained in seeking out explosives were helping Vatican police vet tourists, while hotels in the area were also being kept under surveillance.

The news came a day before Francis's trip to Albania, where the pontiff is expected to mingle with the crowds as usual despite reports of possible danger from new IS recruits returning from the Middle East to the mostly-Muslim country.


Some worry the pope has made himself a target by speaking out against the Islamic State group and having the Holy See voice support for US air strikes in Iraq.

In an interview with Italy's La Nazione daily this week, Iraq's ambassador to the Holy See, Habib Al Sadr, said "what has been declared by the self-declared Islamic State is clear. They want to kill the pope. The threats against the pope are credible."

The Vatican played down the warning, saying security measures for the trip would remain unchanged.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 20, 2014, 09:20:17 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-cupich-next-chicago-archbishop-003549505.html
Pope chooses a moderate for Chicago archbishop
9/20/14

As the leader of two American dioceses, Roman Catholic Bishop Blase Cupich has staked out a firm position in the middle of the road.

He has spoken out against same-sex marriage and against conservative hostility toward gay rights advocates. He has opposed abortion, while urging parishioners and priests to have patience, not disdain, for those who disagree. And he has criticized fellow U.S. bishops who threatened to shut down religious charities instead of pursuing a compromise with the White House over health care policies that go against Catholic teaching.

On Saturday, Pope Francis named Cupich as the next archbishop of Chicago, sending a strong signal about the direction that the pontiff is taking the church. Cupich will succeed Cardinal Francis George, 77, an aggressive defender of orthodoxy who once said he expected his successors in Chicago to be martyred in the face of hostility toward Christianity.

"I think what Francis is trying to do with his appointments in both the United States and around the world is to moderate the conversation and get us past the culture wars and the ideologues," said Christopher Bellitto, a church historian at Kean University in New Jersey. "Francis is not trying to balance a lurch to the right with a lurch to the left. He's trying to build up the big middle so we can have conversations and not arguments."

The Chicago appointment is Francis' first major mark on American Catholic leadership.

George is two years past the church's retirement age and is suffering from cancer. The Chicago archdiocese is the nation's third-largest and among its most important, serving more than 2.2 million parishioners. Chicago archbishops are usually elevated to cardinal and are therefore eligible to vote for the next pope. Both George, and his predecessor, Cardinal Joseph Bernardin, had served as presidents of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Cupich will be installed as archbishop in November.

A native of Omaha, Nebraska, and one of nine children, the 65-year-old Cupich has served in a wide range of roles within the church.

He has been a parish pastor, a high school instructor and president of a seminary. After earning degrees in the U.S. and in Rome, he worked at the papal embassy in Washington, and as a bishop, has led several committees for the U.S. bishops' conference. For a few years, he led the bishops' committee on the child protection reforms adopted amid the clergy sex abuse scandal.

In his current posting as head of the Diocese of Spokane, Washington, Cupich inherited the fallout from a previous bishop's decision to seek bankruptcy protection over sex abuse claims. He started a mediation effort that has drawn praise from local attorneys for victims.

At a news conference Saturday in Chicago, he cited his family's immigrant history — his four grandparents were from Croatia — in a call for immigration reform. "Every day we delay is a day too long," he said. As bishop in Rapid City, South Dakota, starting in 1998, then in Spokane, he has worked extensively with immigrant and Native American communities. About 44 percent of parishioners in the Chicago archdiocese are Latino.

Cupich first became a bishop as the American church leadership began taking a more combative approach to culture war issues, under St. John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI. Yet, he struck a tone that reflects what Francis has emphasized for the church: a focus on mercy over hot-button policies that the pope says has driven away Catholics.

In 2011, Cupich told the anti-abortion committee and priests in Spokane that he wanted an educational, not confrontational, approach to the issue. He warned for having disdain for those who support abortion rights.

The next year, during the run-up to the Washington state referendum that ultimately recognized gay marriage, Cupich repeatedly underscored church teaching that marriage should be between a man and a woman. But he also wrote at length to parishioners about the suffering of gays and lesbians because of anti-gay prejudice. He condemned violence and bullying that has led some gay teens to suicide.

"I also want to be very clear that in stating our position, the Catholic Church has no tolerance for the misuse of this moment to incite hostility toward homosexual persons or promote an agenda that is hateful and disrespectful of their human dignity," Cupich wrote.

After the Obama administration issued a requirement for birth control coverage for employers, Cupich said faith-affiliated charities should never be forced to provide services that the church considers morally objectionable. However, he condemned threats by some U.S. church leaders that they would shut down social service agencies over the Affordable Care Act.

"These kind of scare tactics and worse-case scenario predictions are uncalled for," he wrote in a letter to diocesan employees. "I am confident we can find a way to move forward."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 21, 2014, 04:01:52 pm
Pope in Albania urges Muslims to condemn extremism

Pope Francis called Sunday for Muslims and all religious leaders to condemn Islamic extremists who "pervert" religion to justify violence, as he visited Albania and held up the Balkan nation as a model for interfaith harmony for the rest of the world.

"To kill in the name of God is a grave sacrilege. To discriminate in the name of God is inhuman," Francis told representatives of Albania's Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic communities during a half-day visit to Tirana in which he recalled the brutal persecution people of all faiths suffered under communism.

rest: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_ALBANIA_POPE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-21-07-21-22

Just want to say that the Catholic Church has been doing it for almost 2,000 years. And Frank!! Muslims worship the MOON god, not Jesus. Just like you worship Semiramis NOT Jesus!! 


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 22, 2014, 10:58:38 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/home/2014/09/21/3570151/ope-francis-just-named-a-new-archbishop-of-chicago-heres-why-you-should-care/
9/21/14
The Pope Gave This Man A Promotion And He Could Dramatically Change The Focus Of The Catholic Church

The Archdiocese of Chicago announced on Saturday that Pope Francis has named Bishop Blase Cupich, a moderate bridge-builder with a history of supporting many progressive-leaning positions, as the next archbishop of Chicago. The Nebraska native will be replacing a highly political — and deeply conservative — bishop, and could potentially usher in a new era of American Catholic leadership that spends less time fighting culture wars and more time echoing the populist leadership of Pope Francis.

The move might not seem like much to a non-Catholic, but the elevation of Cupich represents a significant change in tone for the Catholic church in America. Politically and theologically speaking, the 65-year-old Cupich, who will be leaving behind his position as Bishop of Spokane, is notably different from his predecessor, Cardinal Francis George, on several counts. George, who is currently fighting cancer, has enjoyed prominence among Catholic conservatives for his hard-line stance against abortion and marriage equality, but has often stoked controversy for how he expresses his views: in 2011, George compared organizers of the Chicago Pride Parade to the Ku Klux Klan, and recently wrote that being a Catholic citizen under a pro-gay, pro-choice government is akin to living under Shariah law.

Cupich, by contrast, is the very embodiment of a Catholic moderate. When the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) publicly opposed the Affordable Care Act in 2010, he expressed skepticism about their confrontational approach, preferring a deeper dialogue with President Obama’s administration about the issue of Catholic institutions providing contraception to employees. Similarly, when serving as the bishop of Spokane, Washington during the state’s battle over marriage equality, Cupich published a pastoral letter that defended the church’s opposition to same-sex marriage while also condemning anti-gay bullying, saying it was wrong to “incite hostility towards homosexual persons or promote an agenda that is hateful and disrespectful of their human dignity.” He has also frustrated many pro-life activists by reportedly privately asking priests and seminarians in Spokane not to pray in front of Planned Parenthood abortion clinics, arguing that such actions were unnecessarily provocative, according to Crux.

So why should anyone care that Cupich is the new head of the Catholic church in Chicago? From a practical perspective, Cupich’s promotion could signal a change in how the Catholic church in the United States impacts governmental policy. As a well-funded and highly organized messaging machine, the USCCB regularly wades into national policy debates, having weighed in on the aforementioned battle over the Affordable Care Act (they opposed it), various state-level votes on marriage equality (they’re against it), and the recent dust-up over comprehensive immigration reform (they’re for it). Lifting up people like Cupich, however, makes it far more likely that Catholic leaders in the United States will be proactive in following Francis’ lead — that is, avoiding most public culture wars, which Francis says the church is too “obsessed” with, and refocusing their profound resources on a broader understanding of “pro-life” that includes serving the poor and the marginalized.

“Pope Francis sent a clear message to an American hierarchy that has lost its way fighting the culture wars in recent years,” said John Gehring, Catholic program director at Faith in Public Life, a progressive advocacy group in Washington, told ThinkProgress. “It signals that pastoral leadership, the search for common ground and a broader pro-life vision must be the new guideposts. The Francis agenda is now anchored in a city that has long been a powerhouse of American Catholicism. This could be a game changer.”

In addition, from a global Catholic perspective, it is well known that the most effective way for a pope to impact the future of the church is to appoint like-minded bishops. To be sure, Pope Francis, who has miffed some conservatives for insisting that the church shift its focus away from decrying abortion and same-sex marriage and towards issues such as poverty, climate change, and immigrant rights, has found a kindred spirit in Cupich. In addition to his moderate positions listed above, Cupich wrote in June that economic inequality is “a powder keg that is as dangerous as the environmental crisis the world is facing today,” and reaffirmed his position on immigration during his press conference on Saturday, saying, “I don’t want to dance around the issue that we need comprehensive immigration reform.” In fact, so obvious is the mind-meld between Francis and Cupich that Catholic news outlets are already referring to him as the “American Pope Francis.”

Thus, the more people like Cupich that Francis elevates to positions of power — and the more he fills the empty slots they leave behind with other bishops who share his views — the more likely it is that the Catholic church will carry on Francis’ vision long after he leaves the papacy. It is bishops (specifically Cardinals), after all, who usually become popes, primarily because they are the only ones eligible to vote for who gets the papacy. And it is popes like Francis that have profound impacts on global politics, including here in the United States.

Of course, it remains to be seen how Cupich will operate in his new position, and he’s faced with a steep learning curve: whereas his previous position in Spokane oversaw 90,000 Catholics and 82 parishes, the Chicago archdiocese boasts a whopping 350 parishes and 2.2 million Catholics. Leading such a huge institution will undoubtedly have its pitfalls, and Chicago is known for taking a toll on its leaders, be they political or religious.

Then again, no one expected that much from Pope Francis either, and it stands to reason that Cupich — and possibly others like him — are primed to be the new face of a more moderate, less antagonistic brand of American Catholicism.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 04, 2014, 04:45:04 am
Pope Francis: 'I believe in guardian angels...and everyone should listen to their advice'

 :o

Pope Francis has said he believes in angels, telling Catholics around the world to reaffirm their belief in holy guardians.

Speaking to followers at the Vatican on Wednesday, the pontiff said every person has a guardian angel advising them in life.

Stressing they were not imaginary, he said it was only pride stopping people hearing their voices.

“Do not rebel: follow his advice,” the Pope said according to the Catholic News Agency.

“No one walks alone and none of us can think that he is alone.”

Pope Francis made the comments on the Feast of Holy Guardian Angels, observed by Catholics around the world on 2 October.

He claimed that no person can rightly give moral advice to themselves and should instead rely on direction from angels.

“It is dangerous to chase away our travelling companion,” he said.

“The Holy Spirit advises me, the angel advises me. This is why we need him.”

During the address, the Pope also used Biblical examples to hit out against “careerism”, saying it was against the attitude of “docility” taught by Jesus.

His predecessor, Pope Benedict, made a similar address on angels in 2011, saying: “From the beginning until death, human life is surrounded by their constant protection.”

But his insistence in 2012 that angels did not sing at the birth of Christ devastated lovers of carol “Hark! The herald angels sing”.

He also wrote in his book about Jesus’ early life that contrary to popular belief, there were no donkeys, camels or any other animals present at the Nativity scene.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-i-believe-in-guardian-angelsand-everyone-should-listen-to-their-advice-9772622.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on October 04, 2014, 05:28:05 am
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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 10, 2014, 10:05:11 am
http://news.yahoo.com/gay-rights-groups-hail-catholic-tone-062457302.html
Gay rights groups hail new Catholic tone
10/10/14

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Gay rights groups are cautiously cheering a shift in tone from the Catholic Church toward homosexuals, encouraged that Pope Francis' famous "Who am I to judge?" position has filtered down to bishops debating family issues at a Vatican meeting this week.

There is no discussion that church doctrine on homosexuality will change or that the Vatican will soon endorse gay marriage or even gay unions. It will not, as the Vatican's top canon lawyer made clear Thursday.

But for the first time, a Vatican meeting is discussing gay and lesbian issues and how to provide better spiritual care to Catholic homosexuals. Day after day, bishops have spoken of the need to change the church's language about gays from words of moral condemnation and judgment to words of welcome and respect.

"I think what we're seeing is a crack in the ice that we have been waiting for, for a very long time," said Francis DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways Ministry, a Catholic gay rights group. "It's a sign of a first step."

Church teaching holds that gay acts are "intrinsically disordered," sinful and a "serious depravity," and that homosexual inclination is "objectively disordered." At the same time, it says homosexuals themselves must be treated with respect and compassion and not suffer discrimination.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 13, 2014, 12:44:25 pm
Bishops say gays have gifts to offer church
10/13/14
http://news.yahoo.com/bishops-acknowledging-reality-catholic-families-094555875.html

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Catholic bishops are showing unprecedented openness to accepting the real lives of many Catholics today, saying gays have gifts to offer the church and should be accepted and that there are "positive" aspects to a couple living together without being married.

A two-week meeting of bishops on family issues arrived at its halfway point Monday with a document summarizing the closed-door debate so far. No decisions were announced, but the tone of the preliminary document was one of almost-revolutionary acceptance, rather than condemnation, with the aim of guiding Catholics toward the ideal of a lasting marriage.

The bishops said gays had "gifts and qualities" to offer and asked rhetorically if the church was ready to provide them a welcoming place, "accepting and valuing their sexual orientation without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony."

For a 2,000-year-old institution that believes gay sex is "intrinsically disordered," even posing the question is significant.

"This is a stunning change in the way the Catholic church speaks of gay people," said the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit author. "The Synod is clearly listening to the complex, real-life experiences of Catholics around the world, and seeking to address them with mercy, as Jesus did."

The bishops repeated that gay marriage was off the table. But it acknowledged that gay partnerships had merit.

"Without denying the moral problems connected to homosexual unions, it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the partners," they said.

For heterosexuals, the bishops said they must grasp the "positive reality of civil weddings" and even cohabitation, with the aim of helping the couple commit eventually to a church wedding.

The bishops also called for a re-reading of the 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae that outlined the church's opposition to artificial birth control. The bishops said couples should be unconditionally open to having children, but that the message of Humanae Vitae "underlines the need to respect the dignity of the person in the moral evaluation of the methods of birth control."

There has been much talk inside the synod about applying the theological concept of the "law of gradualness" in difficult family situations. The concept encourages the faithful to take one step at a time in the search for holiness.

Applying the concept to matters of birth control would be an acknowledgement that most Catholics already use artificial contraception in violation of church teaching. But it would encourage pastors to meet them where they are, and then help them come to understand the full reasoning behind the ban.

Bishops also called for "courageous" new ways to minister to families, especially those "damaged" by divorce. The document didn't take sides in the most divisive issue at the synod, whether Catholics who divorce and remarry without an annulment can receive Communion.

The document said these Catholics deserve respect and should not be discriminated against, and then laid out the positions of both sides: those who want to maintain the status quo barring them from the sacraments, and those who favor a case-by-case approach, in which the couple undertake a path of penance.

Pope Francis has called for a more merciful approach to these couples, but conservatives have insisted there is no getting around Jesus' words that marriage is indissoluble.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: christistruth on October 13, 2014, 12:50:48 pm
Some believe Roman Catholicism will be the one world religion, I am not too sure about that, but slyly giving into the Sodomites the Catholic Church is sure making themselves look "equalized" to the unsaved world.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 13, 2014, 03:38:25 pm
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Bishops say gays have gifts to offer church

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Lev 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Lev 18:24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
Lev 18:25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.


not the kind of gifts id want...  :o


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 15, 2014, 08:16:06 pm
‘The View's’ Rosie Perez Apologizes for Her Remarks on Catholic Church (Video)

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/views-rosie-perez-apologizes-her-remarks-catholic-church-172200537.html

Rosie Perez had the camera squarely on her during Wednesday morning's “The View” as she apologized for comments about the Catholic Church during a segment on the previous day's show.

While discussing the Church's stance on divorced parishioners, Perez said on Tuesday that divorced Catholics are not allowed to receive Holy Communion.

Do you mean the Lords Supper?  ::) Has nothing to do with being married.

“I received a lot of responses about my statements regarding the Catholic Church's stance on divorcees and holy communion,” Perez said Wednesday, “and some of them, I might say, were not very Christian-like. But I forgive you and I hope you forgive my faux pas too.”

Perez explained that the Church allows divorced Catholics to continue as full members and that they may receive communion if they don't remarry or if they have their previous marriage annulled. She didn't mention those details on Tuesday's broadcast.

The other co-hosts of “The View” all spoke positively about Pope Francis, including Rosie O'Donnell who said of the pontiff, “I dig this guy.”

Ya know, if Rosie ODonnell is for this guy, that means you really have to look at what is wrong with him.

“He's the first Pope to ever use the word ‘gay’ instead of ‘homosexual,'” O'Donnell said.
He should be using SODOMITE, That is what GOD calls them,

“That's my man, Franny,” Whoopi Goldberg said. “I like him because he seems to have read the Book.”

Wonder what book that is? Because its quite apparent that neither Frank nor Woopie  :D has read that Bible. Goes for the other 3 sodomite loving new world order devils on this panel. 

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/views-rosie-perez-apologizes-her-remarks-catholic-church-172200537.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 19, 2014, 10:39:12 am
Pope Francis on Gays: 'God Not Afraid of New Things'

Pope Francis on Sunday beatified Pope Paul VI, while urging a deadlocked synod to embrace gay marriage.

"God is not afraid of new things!" the Pope said in his Sunday homily. "That is why he is continually surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways."

Meanwhile, a meeting of bishops debated family issues that some compared to the dramatic reforms that took place after the Second Vatican Council, which Pope Paul VI implemented.

While the bishops approved a document that called for more spiritual guidance for Catholic families, they failed to agree on welcoming gays and divorced or civilly remarried couples. The issues will be brought up again next year.

Francis said, “now we still have one year to mature, with true spiritual discernment, the proposed ideas and to find concrete solutions to so many difficulties and innumerable challenges that families must confront; to give answers to the many discouragements that surround and suffocate families.”

The bishops seemed to be more open to gays, saying in a draft document they should be "welcomed with respect and sensitivity." The statement failed to win the necessary two-thirds majority vote to pass.

Francis quoted Paul himself as saying the church -- particularly the synod created by Paul -- must be aware of changing times and make sure the church adapts to the "growing needs of our time and the changing conditions of society."

Francis said would have been "worried and saddened" if there had not been "animated discussions" or if "everyone had been in agreement or silent in a false and acquiescent peace," the Associated Press reported. He also cautioned against "hostile inflexibility, that is, wanting to close oneself within the written word, and not allowing oneself to be surprised by God."

Paul served as Pope from 1963 to 1978, when the church adapted to changing mores brought on by the 1960s  sexual revolution. Under his reforms, Mass was no longer required to be delivered only in Latin, and the Catholic church began an outreach program to reach people of other faiths. He beatification brings him one step closer to sainthood.

Below is a transcript of Friday's address by the Pope to the synod of bishops, via the Catholic News Agency:

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/pope-francis-gays-god-not-afraid-new-things

Frank!! Its not new buddy, its old. Been around a loooooong time. And the Lord has already ruled on it numerous times.

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 29, 2014, 06:23:31 pm
http://tfponline.com/news/2014/oct/29/elton-john-aids-event-pope-francis-my-hero/?breakingnews
10/29/14
Elton John at AIDS event: Pope Francis is my hero

NEW YORK — Elton John has called Pope Francis "my hero" for his compassion and push to accept gays in the Catholic church, at his annual AIDS benefit.

John hosted the event, "An Enduring Vision: A Benefit for the Elton John AIDS Foundation," Tuesday night in New York City. He says Francis is pushing boundaries in the church and told the crowd: "Make this man a saint now, OK?"

Catholic bishops scrapped their landmark welcome to gays earlier this month, showing deep divisions at the end of a two-week meeting sought by Francis to chart a more merciful approach to ministering to Catholic families. An earlier draft of the document offered a welcoming tone of acceptance, but that was stripped away.

John called Francis "courageous" and "fearless."


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 07, 2014, 05:48:49 pm
Pope Francis: 'Pagan' Christians 'in Name Only' are 'Enemies of the Cross'

He is clearly speaking about catholics  :D

Not all those who claim to be Christians really are, said Pope Francis Friday morning. Some are Christians “in name only,” he said. “They bear the name of Christians but live a life of pagans.”

In his homily at Mass, the Pope that there have always been two types of Christian, those who truly followed Christ and those who only pretended to. At the time of Saint Paul, there were “worldly Christians, Christians in name only, with two or three Christian features, but nothing more.” The Pope called this sort of people “Pagan Christians,” whom St. Paul called “enemies of the cross of Christ.”

In Paul’s time, the Pope said, the two groups of Christians “were in church together, went to Mass on Sunday, praised the Lord, and were called Christians.” So what was the difference? He asked. The second were “enemies of the cross of Christ.”

The Pope went on to say that “even today there are many! We must be careful not to slip into the way of pagan Christians.” These are the ones, he said, who are “pagans painted over with two brush strokes of Christianity, so they look like Christians, but are really pagans.”

According to Francis, we all run the risk of becoming “Christians in appearance.” We are tempted, he said, to mediocrity, and when Christians become mediocre, “it is their ruin, because the heart cools and they become lukewarm.” Francis reminded his hearers that Jesus used strong language to describe this sort of Christians: “Because you are lukewarm, I will vomit you out of my mouth.” These, the Pope said, “are enemies of the cross of Christ. They take the name of Christian, but do not follow the requirements of the Christian life.”

The Pope suggested that there are questions we can ask ourselves to know what sort of Christians we are. He said that all of us—the Pope included—need to ask ourselves: “How much worldliness is in me? How much paganism?”

Even more specifically, the Pope asked: “Do I like to brag? Do I like money? Do I like my pride, my arrogance? Where are my roots, and where is my citizenship? In heaven or on earth?”

“If you love money and are attached to it, if you love vanity and pride, you are headed down a bad road,” he said. If, instead, he continued, “you try to love God and serve others, if you are gentle, if you are humble, if you are the servant of others, you are on the right path. Your citizenship is in heaven.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/11/07/Pope-Francis-Warns-Against-Becoming-Pagan-Christians


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on November 07, 2014, 07:54:05 pm
This guy baffles me. I mean really, he just baffles me. The things he says are just incredibly ridiculous. He says, "When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so..."

God can't do everything? What god does he worship? My God, the God of the Bible, created the universe and all that is in it in 6 days. And He was TAKING HIS TIME!

And people think they can call themselves Christians and follow this man?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 08, 2014, 08:23:21 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/08/cardinal-burke-vatican-_n_6125750.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
11/8/14
Cardinal Burke Loses Another Vatican Job

VATICAN CITY (AP) — American Cardinal Raymond Burke, who championed campaigns to deny Communion to Catholic politicians who support legalized abortion, was removed by Pope Francis from another top Vatican post on Saturday.

The removal of Burke as head of the Holy See's supreme court was widely expected in church circles.

While he was archbishop of St. Louis, from 2003-2008, he led fellow American bishops in campaigns to stop giving Communion to Catholic politicians who support legalized abortion. He has also questioned some of the pontiff's pronouncements and approaches.

Last year Francis took Burke off the Vatican's powerful Congregation for Bishops, dealing with appointments of bishops worldwide.

On Saturday he transferred Burke from the Vatican court job to the largely ceremonial post of Patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, a charity whose activities include hospitals and residences for the elderly around the world.

Burke, at 66, would have still had a good decade to continue serving in high-profile Vatican posts.

His strident discourse and preference of fancy, old-fashioned vestments contrast starkly with the informal, chatty tone and simple, almost Spartan style Francis has established for his papacy.

Last month, Burke marshaled conservative criticism against the possibility the Vatican may loosen up rules that ban Communion for divorced, remarried Catholics.

Francis has said that church hierarchy should not focus so much on abortion and same-sex marriage but instead concentrate on making the church a more welcoming place. Meanwhile, Burke has said to a Catholic broadcaster that "we can never talk enough" against abortion and same-sex marriage.

He has also questioned Francis' denunciation of excesses of capitalism.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 09, 2014, 06:05:15 pm
For the record - everyone in the RCC is vile and wretched - but nonetheless look at all of the strife and major divisions that are happening under this current Pope's regime.

Rev 17:16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh0re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-bishops-struggling-under-francis-pontificate-061444771.html
US bishops struggling under Francis' pontificate
11/8/14

U.S. Roman Catholic bishops are gathering at a moment of turbulence for them and the American church, as Pope Francis moves toward crafting new policies for carrying out his mission of mercy — a prospect that has conservative Catholics and some bishops in an uproar.

The assembly, which starts Monday in Baltimore, comes less than a month after Francis ended a dramatic Vatican meeting on how the church can more compassionately minister to Catholic families.

The gathering in Rome was only a prelude to a larger meeting next year which will more concretely advise Francis on church practice. Still, the open debate at the event, and the back and forth among bishops over welcoming gays and divorced Catholics who remarry, prompted stunning criticism from some U.S. bishops.

"Many of the U.S. bishops have been disoriented by what this new pope is saying and I don't see them really as embracing the pope's agenda," said John Thavis, a former Rome bureau chief for the Catholic News Service. "To a large degree, the U.S. bishops have lost their bearings. I think up until now, they felt Rome had their back, and what they were saying — especially politically — would eventually be supported in Rome. They can't count on that now."

Cardinal Raymond Burke, the former St. Louis archbishop and leading voice for conservative Catholics, said the church "is like a ship without a rudder" under Francis. Burke made the comments before the pope demoted him from his position as head of the Vatican high court, a move he had anticipated.

Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, Rhode Island, said the debate and vote on a document summing up the discussion in Rome, which laid bare divisions among church leaders, struck him as "rather Protestant." Tobin referenced a remark Francis had made to young Catholics last year that they shake up the church and make a "mess" in their dioceses.

"Pope Francis is fond of 'creating a mess.' Mission accomplished," Tobin wrote.

Other American bishops said the meeting sowed confusion about church teaching, although several blamed the way information was released from the Vatican or reported by the media.

"I think confusion is of the devil. I think the public image that came across was confusion," said Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia. Next year, Chaput will host the pontiff on his first U.S. visit for the World Meeting of Families, a Vatican-organized event that draws thousands of people.

Francis is pressing U.S. bishops to make what for many prelates is a wrenching turnaround: The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and individual church leaders have dedicated increasing resources over the years to the hot-button social issues the pontiff says should no longer be the focus. The bishops say they've been forced to emphasize these issues because of the growing acceptance of gay relationships and what they see as animosity toward Christians in America.

Dozens of dioceses and Catholic nonprofits have sued the Obama administration over the birth control coverage requirement in the Affordable Care Act, the president's signature health care reform law. The administration has made several changes to accommodate the bishops' concerns, but church leaders say the White House hasn't gone far enough.

Through the bishops' religious liberty campaigns, church leaders have sought expansive exemptions for religious objectors to a range of laws and policies, including recognition for same-sex marriage and workplace protections for gays and lesbians.

Ahead of the November elections, the Catholic Conference of Illinois, representing all the state's bishops, said in a voters' guide that abortion and related issues had far greater moral weight than immigration and poverty — issues Francis has said are at the center of the Gospel and at the core of his pontificate.

But the challenge Francis poses extends beyond specific issues. His emphasis on open debate and broad input from lay people stands in stark contrast to how the U.S. prelates have led the church for years.

Bishops have been asserting themselves as the sole authorities in their dioceses and as the arbiters of what would be considered authentically Catholic. Following the lead of St. John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI, who appointed nearly all the current U.S. bishops, the prelates saw this approach as critical to defending orthodoxy.

At their national meetings, U.S. bishops have conducted an increasing amount of work behind closed doors in recent years. The sessions they opened to the public featured little debate. Thavis said the gatherings had come to feel like meetings of a "politburo."

By contrast, the pope opened the Vatican meeting on the family last month by telling the participating bishops to speak boldly. "Let no one say: 'This you cannot say,'" the pontiff said. In the months leading up to the gathering, Francis distributed a 39-point questionnaire to bishops' conferences around the world, seeking input from ordinary Catholics about their acceptance of church teaching on a host of issues related to Catholic family life. Francis then invited Catholic couples to talk about marriage at the meeting to give bishops a sense of the issues families face.

"This was real discussion, real debate, real engagement," said Phillip Thompson, executive director of the Aquinas Center of Theology at Emory University. "They brought these issues and put them on the table, which has never really been done in this way before."

According to the schedule the U.S. bishops released for their Baltimore assembly, the meeting will concentrate on issues they've been prioritizing since before Francis' election: religious liberty, upholding marriage between a man and a woman, and moral issues in health care. A conference spokesman said a briefing is expected from church leaders who participated in last month's Vatican gathering, or synod. And the schedule can be changed at the last minute.

Still, Michael Sean Winters, an analyst with the liberal National Catholic Reporter news outlet, called the schedule "sleep-inducing."

"You would not know from that agenda," Winters wrote, "that this is such an exciting moment in the life of the church."


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Post by: FervorForFaith on November 09, 2014, 09:38:06 pm
One can only pray and hope that some of those conservative Catholics actually get saved.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on November 14, 2014, 03:00:28 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN_39AzKFsA


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 18, 2014, 08:00:18 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/the-pope-says-kids-need-both-mom-and-dad-102977672772.html
11/18/14
The Pope Says Kids Need Both Mom and Dad

Pope Francis caused some confusion and disappointment on Monday for those who been holding out hope regarding his stance on same-sex marriage and LGBT equality. That’s when, during a speech at the Complementarity of Man and Woman conference in Rome, the Pope made the following declaration to a room packed with religious leaders: “Children have a right to grow up in a family with a father and a mother.”

However, at the end of his speech, the pope announced plans to make his first visit to the United States in September, where he will attend Philadelphia’s World Meeting of the Families. That Catholic conference, held to strengthen family units worldwide, will ironically host many gay and lesbian families.

STORY: How One Dad Helped His Gay Teen Son Come Out

Although the pope has always maintained that “matrimony is between a man and woman,” and has stated his opposition to same-sex adoption (even being “shocked” by the notion, according to a local paper in Malta), LGBT activists have maintained hope regarding his opinions: He has indicated that he would support some civil unions in the event that one partner needed medical care, for example, and has warned against the church becoming “obsessed” with gay issues.

“On the one hand, Pope Francis is a hopeful pope — he doesn’t come from Vatican bureaucracy, he entered priesthood later than most men, he’s grounded in his ministry, and seems comfortable discussing gay issues,” Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of Dignity USA, an organization for LGBT Catholics, tells Yahoo Parenting. “It’s hard to put a traditional label on him. However, he is not as focused on social issues, such as abortion, gay rights, and contraception, and that’s not in line with how the world is evolving.”

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Regardless, the media erupted with speculation about whether Monday’s remarks indicated that the pope was supporting traditional families or simply emphasizing their primary place in society.

Pope Francis, who has been dubbed the “cool pope,” already has a history of causing a stir. Back in January during a service at the Sistine Chapel, he encouraged all mothers to breastfeed in public — even in church— saying of babies, “If they are hungry, mothers, let them eat, no worries, because here, they are the main focus.” He’s also acknowledged the importance of female religious leaders, saying that the church should “investigate further the role of women” and that “the feminine genius is needed wherever we make important decisions.”

And despite his seemingly rockstar image — the former nightclub bouncer has nearly 5 million Twitter followers and, in 2013, Time magazine named him “Person of the Year” — Pope Francis leads a simple life. He resides in the Vatican guesthouse instead of a fancy papal apartment, and he drives a 1984 Renault instead of using a chauffeur. Earlier this week, it was announced that three showers for homeless people would be installed in public restrooms in Vatican City. And the pope recently made headlines for inviting “Godmother of Punk” Patti Smith to perform at the official Vatican Christmas Concert in December — and she accepted.

Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, who is retiring due to his cancer diagnosis, acknowledged on Monday that the pope has a history of creating confusion about his opinions. “Does he not realize the repercussions? Perhaps he doesn’t,” Cardinal George told the Catholic website the Crux. “I don’t know whether he’s conscious of all the consequences of some of the things he’s said and done that raise doubts in people’s minds.”

Duddy-Burke agrees. “No one really knows the Pope’s stance on gay marriage,” she says. “It’s disappointing and confusing, however unfortunately consistent with what we’ve been hearing from the Vatican for the past 30 years.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 18, 2014, 09:03:16 pm
Notice how these "pro-family" groups and conferences ALMOST NEVER emphasize the PRIMARY role of the MAN in the family...

Ephesians 5:22  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27  That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28  So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29  For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30  For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31  For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32  This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Eph 5:33  Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 25, 2014, 01:09:26 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-hot-eu-topics-strasbourg-visit-143640206.html
Pope to take on hot EU topics in Strasbourg visit
11/24/14

STRASBOURG, France (AP) — Pope Francis will deliver his first public speech about Europe on Tuesday, likely to focus on complex continental issues such as high jobless rates among the young, and immigration.

The pontiff's whirlwind, four-hour visit to the European Parliament and the Council of Europe, Europe's main human rights body, in Strasbourg is shaping up as more of a secular stop than a liturgical layover.

Aides say Francis will address topics including unemployment and immigration — two hot-button issues in Europe. His address is also likely to revive themes that he evoked during a private meeting with a group of European bishops last month.

Straying from his prepared remarks at that time, the pope said that Europe was "wounded," alluding to soaring jobless rates — especially among the young — in places like Spain and Italy, according to a transcript of the speech reported by noted Vatican commentator Sandro Magister on Monday.

"It has gone from the time of prosperity, of great well-being, to a worrying crisis in which young people too are discarded," Francis reportedly said.

Francis' trip has disgruntled some. Some local religious leaders regret that he won't visit Strasbourg's famed cathedral. Some left-leaning lawmakers argue he has no place visiting secular European institutions. The activist group Femen staged a brief demonstration at the cathedral on Monday, with one woman draping herself in the European flag at the altar.

French Catholic leaders were planning to broadcast the pope's remarks to the European bodies on a big screen in the cathedral on Tuesday.

Francis' trip is the first by a pope to Strasbourg since John Paul II visited in 1988. That was a very different Europe — before the Berlin Wall came down.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 27, 2014, 10:41:45 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-visits-turkey-amid-christian-muslim-tensions-113108187.html
Pope visits Turkey amid Christian-Muslim tensions
11/27/14

VATICAN CITY (AP) — When a pope last visited Turkey — Benedict XVI in 2006 — Muslim-Catholic tensions were so high that the Vatican added a stop at Istanbul's famed Blue Mosque at the last minute in hopes of showing Benedict's respect for Islam.

Pope Francis travels to Turkey this weekend amid new Muslim-Christian tensions and war next door, with Islamic State militants seizing chunks of Iraq and Syria and sending 1.6 million refugees across the border into Turkey.

Francis is expected to tread lightly during his three-day visit, sensitive to the delicate diplomatic tensions at play between Turkey and the international coalition fighting the Islamic State.

But Vatican officials say he will not shy from denouncing violence in God's name and voicing concern for Christians being targeted by the extremists. Remarkably, though, Francis will not meet with any groups of refugees as he has done on previous trips to the region, a clear sign of the Vatican's unwillingness to wade too deeply into the conflict.

Here are five things to look for during Francis' visit, which begins Friday.

TO PRAY OR NOT TO PRAY

When Pope Paul VI made the first-ever papal visit to Turkey in 1967, he fell to his knees in prayer inside Haghia Sophia, the 1,500-year-old site in Istanbul that was originally a Byzantine church and was turned into a mosque after the Muslim conquest of Istanbul — then known as Constantinople — in 1453. The Turks were not pleased. They staged protests, claiming Paul had violated the secular nature of the domed complex, which is now a museum.

Asked if Francis would pray when he visits the massive complex on Saturday, the Vatican was noncommittal. "We'll see what he does," spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said. "If while there the pope personally experiences a moment of spiritual meditation, we'll have to see."

Some Islamic groups in Turkey want Haghia Sophia to be converted back into a mosque, and they have prayed outside the complex on the anniversary of the conquest of Istanbul to push their demand. The government says it has no plans to change Haghia Sophia's status.

AND THE BLUE MOSQUE?

Benedict became only the second pope to step foot in a Muslim house of worship when in November, 2006 he visited the 17th century Sultan Ahmet Mosque in Istanbul, Turkey's most important.

There, he took off his shoes, bowed his head and closed his eyes for nearly a minute in prayer alongside an Islamic cleric in a dramatic gesture of outreach to Muslims.

The mosque visit was added late to Benedict's schedule in a bid to soothe Muslim anger over his now-infamous speech in Regensburg, Germany linking violence to the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad.

Asked if Francis would pray in the mosque as Benedict did, Lombardi took pains to stress the difference between a formal, ritualistic prayer that a Catholic might recite in church and a respectful "spiritual meditation" in a place of worship of another faith.

Turkey's ambassador to the Holy See, Mehmet Pacaci, said the tensions that overshadowed Benedict's visit are "mostly a forgotten issue."

Yet there are some fresh issues with Francis. In September, the head of the government-run Religious Affairs Directorate and Turkey's top cleric called on Francis to take action to stem attacks on mosques in Europe, saying that as many as 70 Muslim places of worship were attacked in Germany this year, compared to 36 last year.

"This can't happen through acts such as washing a young girl's feet or arranging inter-religious football matches and tournaments," Mehmet Gormez said, referring to two of Francis' interfaith initiatives.

The two men meet on Friday in private.

ARMENIAN 'GENOCIDE?'

Francis also provoked Turkish anxiety when in June 2013 he told a visiting delegation of Armenian Chrisitans that the massacre of Armenians in Turkey last century was "the first genocide of the 20th century."

The former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was particularly close to the Armenian community of Buenos Aires, such that his successor as archbishop recently announced that Francis would celebrate a Mass on April 12, 2015 in St. Peter's Basilica to commemorate the centenary of the start of the massacre.

Historians estimate that up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by Ottoman Turks around the time of World War I, an event widely viewed by scholars as the first genocide of the 20th century. Several European countries recognize the massacres as such.

Turkey, however, denies that the deaths constituted genocide, saying the toll has been inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war and unrest.

Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, said the pope's genocide remarks were "in no way a formal or public declaration" and therefore didn't constitute a public assertion that genocide took place.

PALACE DISPUTE

Francis will be walking straight into another controversy when he visits Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's huge new palace on once-protected farm land and forest in Ankara, becoming the first foreign dignitary to be hosted at the lavish, 1,000-room complex.

The palace, which dwarfs the White House and other European government palaces, was built at a cost of $620 million. It has drawn the ire of opposition parties, environmentalists, human rights activists and architects who say the construction is too extravagant, destroyed important forest land and went ahead despite a court injunction against it.

Erdogan brazenly dismissed the court ruling saying: "Let them knock it down if they have the power."

The Ankara branch of the Turkish Chamber of Architects sent a letter to the pope this month, urging him not to attend the welcoming ceremony on Friday at the "illegal" palace.

Lombardi brushed off the request, saying Francis was invited to visit by the Turkish government and will go where the Turkish government wishes to receive him.

CATHOLIC-ORTHODOX

Technically speaking, the real reason for the visit is for Francis to visit the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, Patriarch Bartholomew I.

The two major branches of Christianity represented by Bartholomew and Francis split in 1054 over differences in opinion on the power of the papacy, and the two spiritual heads will participate in an ecumenical liturgy and sign a joint declaration in the ongoing attempt to bridge the divide and reunite the churches.

Ties are already warm: Bartholomew became the first ecumenical patriarch to attend a papal installation since the schism when Francis took over as pope in March 2013. The two have met since on several occasions, including during a visit in Jerusalem in May to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the landmark encounter there of Pope Paul VI and Bartholomew's predecessor, Patriarch Athenagoras.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 27, 2014, 02:22:46 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/26/benedict-xvi-pope-francis_n_6227988.html
11/26/14
Is Benedict XVI The Real Pope? Four Factors Fueling Vatican Conspiracy Theories

(RNS) When Benedict XVI stunned Catholics by announcing that he would become the first pope in six centuries to resign, it immediately raised concerns — which were dismissed just as quickly — that an ex-pope around could undermine the legitimacy of the new pontiff.

Now, nearly two years later, those fears are emerging again, fueled by the growing discontent of conservative Catholics with Benedict’s successor, Pope Francis, and by Benedict’s presence, if not quite as a player, in church debates Francis has sparked.

“Benedict is hanging back for now, but there’s no doubt that he could easily become a figurehead for traditionalists harkening back to the good old days,” Notre Dame New Testament professor Candida Moss and Joel Baden, Old Testament professor at Yale Divinity School, warned in a Daily Beast column earlier this month.

Hubert Wolf, a church historian at the University of Münster, echoed those thoughts in comments reported by a leading German newspaper last week, when he said there were worries that “around Francis and Benedict XVI, two competing power centers could come into being in the (Roman) Curia, with pope and anti-pope at the top of each.”

What’s fueling these fears? They seem outlandish, almost medieval. But there are at least four factors at work:

1. “There is another pope still living!”

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat, a Catholic who has become something of a spokesman for conservatives, made that point in a widely circulated column warning that Francis could provoke a schism on the right.

His statement seems both obvious and perilous: If there’s “another pope,” that means there is a potential rival to the throne.

But the “two living popes” meme isn’t actually true, even though it keeps getting repeated.

“There is only one pope and his name is Francis, whether people like him and the direction he is steering Roman Catholicism or not,” wrote Christopher Bellitto, a church historian at Kean University, in a column for Reuters.

“There is not more than one president or prime minister because predecessors are still alive,” Bellitto wrote. “A person holds the office of president, prime minister, or pope. When that person no longer holds that office, then that person is no longer president, prime minister, or pope.”

2. Conspiracy theories won’t die

Good luck telling that to some Catholics and conspiracy-lovers, who have propounded a number of theories they say undermine Francis’ claims to the papacy.

Among them: Benedict used incorrect Latin in his formal resignation letter, so it is invalid; alternately, they say, the cardinals in the March 2013 conclave that elected Francis violated certain procedures, so his election is null and void.

The speculation was so insistent that on the first anniversary of his resignation last February, an exasperated Benedict publicly called notions that he was still pope “simply absurd.”

3. If he walks like a pope …

Despite his protests, Benedict hasn’t exactly helped the situation by keeping his papal name, continuing to wear the distinctive white papal cassock and taking the title — which he created for himself — of “pope emeritus.” Some church experts say he could have instead gone back to a black cassock and his baptismal name, Joseph Ratzinger, and used the title “bishop emeritus of Rome” or simply Cardinal Ratzinger.

“Juridically there is only one pope. A ‘pope emeritus’ cannot exist,” Manuel Jesus Arroba, a professor of canon law at the Pontifical Lateran University, warned in the days after Benedict announced the innovation.

The debates about the legitimacy of the title and papal perks have shown no sign of abating, and that feeds the conspiracy frenzy, which in turn sparks more debates about the wisdom of Benedict’s post-retirement choices.

4. And talks like a pope …

When Benedict retired, he said he would remain “hidden to the world,” living in seclusion in a monastery inside the Vatican walls. But Francis has encouraged Benedict to come out once in a while, and the former pope has not only taken part in some public events but also made his views known in letters and other communications.

No surprise, not all of his views seem to be in sync with those of Francis, which raises alarms among some, and hopes among others.


The latest example was when an edited volume of Benedict’s theological writings was published and it turned out he had deleted a key part of a 1972 essay in which he advocated a way for divorced and remarried Catholics to take Communion — a proposal that Francis has put on the table, to the intense displeasure of many conservatives.

Benedict’s redaction was seen as thwarting any effort to enlist him on the side of the reformers, and it placed him squarely in the center of the latest controversies.

In the end, it seems far-fetched to think Benedict would become an actual anti-pope or foment a real schism.

For one thing, at 87, he is too frail to take any active role in church governance. Moreover, nothing in his past record or his post-retirement statements gives any hint that he would even contemplate such a divisive step.

The problem is, it’s really not about Benedict; it’s about his followers. Their passion is likely to outlast the ex-pope himself.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on November 27, 2014, 10:32:20 pm
CATHOLIC-ORTHODOX

Technically speaking, the real reason for the visit is for Francis to visit the spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians, Patriarch Bartholomew I.

The two major branches of Christianity represented by Bartholomew and Francis split in 1054 over differences in opinion on the power of the papacy, and the two spiritual heads will participate in an ecumenical liturgy and sign a joint declaration in the ongoing attempt to bridge the divide and reunite the churches.

Ties are already warm: Bartholomew became the first ecumenical patriarch to attend a papal installation since the schism when Francis took over as pope in March 2013. The two have met since on several occasions, including during a visit in Jerusalem in May to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the landmark encounter there of Pope Paul VI and Bartholomew's predecessor, Patriarch Athenagoras.


Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. (Daniel 7:19-20)

And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. (Daniel 2:38-40)

Eastside meets westside downtown
No time the walls fall down
Can't you feel it coming? Empire!
Can't you hear it calling?

The above is the chorus to the 80s rock song "Empire" by Queensryche. The song itself is about law enforcement and soaring crime rates. But as we all know, subliminal things are ALWAYS added to songs, movies, shows, etc. I used to listen to that song a lot pre-salvation, and looking back on it, it's kinda weird how it fits.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 28, 2014, 07:25:57 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=28574
POPE FRANCIS IN TURKEY CALLS FOR END ALL FORMS OF RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM
11/28/14

FRANCIS CALLED FOR INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE “SO THAT THERE WILL BE AN END OF ALL FORMS OF FUNDAMENTALISM AND TERRORISM WHICH GRAVELY DEMEAN THE DIGNITY OF EVERY MAN AND WOMAN AND EXPLOIT RELIGION.”

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:5,6

The term “fundamentalism” is a very broad brush and could be talking about many different things. Christian fundamentalists are those who believe in the bible and bible doctrine, and attempt to do their best to reach a lost and dying world for Jesus Christ. Christian fundamentalists, like Baptists, are also those who historically have sought to expose the Catholic church as the Harlot found in Revelation 17 and 18. It’s kind of hard to have a One World Religion if there are those pesky bible believers that are constantly outing the Pope and the harlot Vatican system.

Make no mistake about it, the overarching goal of Pope Francis is to erase the lines of distinction between all Christian denominations and absorb them in to the Roman Catholic system. He will use any means at his disposal – abortion, world hunger, poverty, terrorism – as a pretext to “lay down our differences and unite”. The Pope isn’t selling, he’s buying.

The Jerusalem Post reports today that Pope Francis in Turkey called for an end to all forms of fundamentalism on Friday and said fighting hunger and poverty, rather than military intervention alone, were key to stopping Islamist militants carrying out “grave persecutions” in Syria and Iraq.

Speaking at the start of a three-day trip to Turkey, Francis said “terrorist violence” showed no sign of abating in Turkey’s southern neighbors, where Islamist insurgents had declared a caliphate and persecuted Shi’ite Muslims, Christians and others who do not share their ultra-radical brand of Sunni Islam.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Boldhunter on November 28, 2014, 07:30:25 pm
Revelation 12:7-11 KJV

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Good news is: Queen's dead mouthpiece, Freddie Mercury may have said they'll "keep fighting to the end"
-- However, the LORD said, they WON'T be "the champions."

 
Revelation 19:20 KJV

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 29, 2014, 09:17:53 am
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,


Pope Francis prays alongside Islamic cleric in Istanbul's Blue Mosque in gesture of inter-religious harmony - @Reuters

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 05, 2014, 06:36:46 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/1/pope-francis-koran-is-a-prophetic-book-of-peace/#ixzz3L1jndYDJ
Pope Francis: Muslims say Koran ‘is a prophetic book of peace’
12/5/14


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 05, 2014, 07:34:58 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/1/pope-francis-koran-is-a-prophetic-book-of-peace/#ixzz3L1jndYDJ
Pope Francis: Muslims say Koran ‘is a prophetic book of peace’
12/5/14

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on December 06, 2014, 06:59:28 pm
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/1/pope-francis-koran-is-a-prophetic-book-of-peace/#ixzz3L1jndYDJ
Pope Francis: Muslims say Koran ‘is a prophetic book of peace’
12/5/14

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+1000

What a joke.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 06, 2014, 09:34:35 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/06/pope-francis-conclave-conspiracy_n_6277614.html
12/6/14
Pope Francis Critics Cite Conclave Conspiracy To Question His Papacy

NEW YORK (RNS) Was there a secret plot to elect Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio at the papal conclave last year?

Did Bergoglio — who became Pope Francis at that conclave — give the go-ahead to such a plan?

And does that campaign call his election, and his papacy, into question?

Such questions might sound like plot twists to a new Vatican thriller by Dan Brown, but they are actually the latest talking points promoted by some Catholic conservatives upset with the direction that Francis is leading the church.

The furor stems from a behind-the-scenes account of the March 2013 conclave, presented in a new book about Francis titled “The Great Reformer: Francis and the Making of a Radical Pope.”

In the last chapter of the biography, which focuses on Bergoglio’s early life in Argentina and career as a Jesuit, author Austen Ivereigh delivers an insider account of how a group of cardinals who wanted a reformer pope quietly sought to rally support for Bergoglio in the days leading up to the conclave.

Cardinals take an oath not to divulge details of a conclave and Ivereigh based his account on background interviews with cardinals who took part.

He called Francis’ boosters “Team Bergoglio.” They were led by reform-minded European churchmen like Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor of England, who Ivereigh once worked for, and German prelates like Cardinal Walter Kasper, who has become a trusted theological adviser to Francis.

At one point, Ivereigh writes that members of “Team Bergoglio” sought the Argentine cardinal’s “assent” that he would not refuse the papacy if the voting turned his way. During the 2005 conclave, Bergoglio reportedly refused to take up the mantle when he was running second to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who would eventually be elected Pope Benedict XVI.

This time, Ivereigh writes, Bergoglio “said that he believed that at this time of crisis for the Church no cardinal could refuse if asked.”

In conclaves, cardinals often signal whether they would refuse or go along with an election, if it happened.

Also, while overt politicking is strongly discouraged, and conclave rules expressly forbid dealmaking, cardinals often coalesce in camps behind one contender or another.

But when Ivereigh’s book was published last month (he personally presented a copy to Francis), media accounts of the politics of the conclave prompted some to question whether Bergoglio himself was involved by giving the go-ahead, and whether that could undermine the legitimacy of his election.

Murphy-O’Connor’s press secretary wrote a letter to a British newspaper saying that no approach had been made to Bergoglio seeking his assent.

And on Monday (Dec. 1), the Rev. Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, issued a statement saying the cardinals cited “have expressly denied this description of events, both in terms of the demand for a prior consent by Cardinal Bergoglio and with regard to the conduct of a campaign for his election.”

Church sources said the Vatican’s quick reaction was an indication of how concerned Rome is that Francis’ opponents will use any pretext to try to sow doubts about him and his papacy.

Ivereigh, a leading Vatican expert who was in New York this week to promote his book, said Tuesday (Dec. 2) that he stands by his reporting. But Ivereigh said he regretted phrasing the episode to make it seem that Bergoglio had been approached about being a candidate and gave his backers encouragement.

“That never happened and I am sorry that I gave the impression that’s what happened,” Ivereigh told Religion News Service. “I think the whole chapter makes clear that he never had any role at all in his own election.”

Ivereigh said he was trying to show that as opposed to the 2005 conclave, Bergoglio’s supporters in 2013 “were convinced he wouldn’t resist his election.”

“The conclave rules do not prevent cardinals from urging other cardinals to vote for a particular person,” he added. “And indeed that is exactly what happens. That is part of the discernment that happens in a papal election.”

Ivereigh said he will be changing the wording of one paragraph in future editions of the book to clarify Bergoglio’s role. (NOTE: See text of the wording change at the end of this story.)

Whether that will satisfy the critics is unclear.

Some fringe elements in the Catholic Church have proposed various theories they claim might either invalidate the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI in February 2013 or the election of Francis the following month.

Others see the accounts of conclave machinations as further evidence that Pope Francis is, for them, a far more manipulative and autocratic figure than the public believes.

Ivereigh says that in future reprints of “The Great Reformer,” the paragraph at the top of Page 355 will be amended as follows:

EXISTING
They had learned their lessons from 2005. They first secured Bergoglio’s assent. Asked if he was willing, he said that he believed that at this time of crisis for the Church no cardinal could refuse if asked.

NEW
In keeping with conclave rules, they did not ask Bergoglio if he would be willing to be a candidate. But they believed this time that the crisis in the Church would make it hard for him to refuse if elected.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 08, 2014, 08:43:00 am
Pope Francis Addresses Gay Marriage: Church Should Support Families With LGBT Children

The Catholic Church must help parents stand by their gay children, Pope Francis said in a new interview about his papal ministry. The pontiff’s comments come a day after Francis urged top church officials to pay attention to the “signs of the times” and listen to ordinary Catholics, according to The Independent.

“We come across this reality all the time in the confessional: a father and a mother whose son or daughter is in that situation. This happened to me several times in Buenos Aires.... We have to find a way to help that father or that mother to stand by their son or daughter,” he said in a wide-ranging interview with the Argentine daily La Nación. While it is important to find ways to welcome gay Catholics, gay marriage is still not on the church’s agenda, Francis said.

The pontiff’s remarks were made as part of a larger reflection on the church’s recent Synod of Bishops, which discussed some of the most controversial issues around family life for Catholics. The October gathering revealed fractures in church opinion about adapting traditional teaching to accomodate modern attitudes, according to the BBC. While Francis made a powerful appeal to traditionalists, conservative cardinals prevailed and rejected proposals for wider acceptance of gay people.

Francis also addressed the issue of divorced Catholics, saying that they were often treated as though they had been excommunicated. “In the case of divorcées who have remarried, we posed the question: What do we do with them? What door can we allow them to open? This was a pastoral concern: Will we allow them to go to Communion? Communion alone is no solution. The solution is integration. They have not been excommunicated,” he said, according to the National Catholic Reporter.

Since his election as pope in March 2013, Francis has made efforts to reform the church and make it more open, though he has encountered stiff resistance from some traditionalists within the Vatican.

http://www.ibtimes.com/pope-francis-addresses-gay-marriage-church-should-support-families-lgbt-children-1742369

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.




Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 10, 2014, 01:28:16 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIYOJPjz3w


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 10, 2014, 07:09:20 am
Pope Francis: ‘All Animals Go To Heaven’

Pope Francis has declared that all animals go to heaven during his weekly audience in St. Peter’s Square.

The Pope made these remarks after he received two donkeys as early Christmas presents. During his discussion, Pope Francis quoted the apostle Paul as he comforted a child who was mourning the death of his dog.

Francis quoted Paul’s remarks as, “One day we will see our animals again in eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all God’s creatures.”

According to the Express, Pope Francis’ declaration is in complete contrast to those that were previously made by his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI. Pope Benedict resigned from the position in 2013, declaring that he didn’t possess the “strength of mind and body” to continue.

Pope Benedict said that animals “are not called to the eternal life.” In a book that Pope Benedict wrote about the childhood of Jesus, he claimed that there was no mention of animals in any of the Gospels. In fact, he stated that the presence of animals in Nativity scenes is based on myth.

Pope Francis was given two donkeys by the names of Thea and Noah earlier this week. He was provided with these by a company that makes donkey milk for babies unable to drink other milks because of their allergies.

Upon receiving the rather unusual gift, Pope Francis went on to reveal that he used to drink donkey milk as a baby. This claim was made by Pierluigi Christophe Orunesu, who works for Eurolactis Italia, a donkey farming company.

Orunesu admitted that the pope was “very happy,” before, according to the Daily Mail, he went on to add, “I told him he will have two friends for life. Pope Francis told me today in front of media that his mother regularly gave him donkey’s milk where she could not provide enough breast milk or later on when he was a child.”

Twenty-one gallons of donkey’s milk were also donated to a pediatric hospital in Rome by the company. Eurolactis Italia also released a statement boasting of their gifts to Pope Francis.

    “This gift of two very friendly young donkeys, Thea and Noah, is less surprising than it might first seem; the Holy Father chose to take the forename of Saint Francis of Assisi, who considered animals to be God’s living creations and elevated them to the status of brothers to mankind. The donkey also holds a prominent place in the bible. This was the animal that kept Jesus warm in his manger in Bethlehem.”


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1657599/pope-francis-all-animals-go-to-heaven/#5oiIjyJ8w1tJ8KBB.99



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 10, 2014, 07:49:04 am
Pope Francis: ‘All Animals Go To Heaven’

Frank, animals do not have a "spirit", they DO NOT GO to Heaven.

http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,9410.msg41641.html#msg41641


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 10, 2014, 09:17:39 am
Side note: I wonder what will happen to born-again believers' pets at the rapture.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on December 10, 2014, 10:28:52 pm
BornAgain2, that video about Tony Palmer is VERY eye-opening. :o

Obviously, I disagree with the last part about Sunday vs. Sabbath, but otherwise this is a great video.

EDIT: I just remembered this tv series that debuted this year:

http://abc.go.com/shows/resurrection/ (http://abc.go.com/shows/resurrection/)

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The people of Arcadia, Missouri are forever changed when their deceased loved ones suddenly start to reappear.

And get a load of this!

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The local minister in Arcadia, Tom Hale is a town leader with a loyal flock. He has an empathetic soul that is irresistible to women. Married to Janine, he’s initially unwilling to believe in the miracle that is Jacob. But he was best buddies with the 8-year-old boy, 32 years ago, and he instantly recognizes his long-lost pal, making him question his very beliefs…


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 11, 2014, 08:14:47 am
Side note: I wonder what will happen to born-again believers' pets at the rapture.

What happens to the alligators? Or the deer? how about all the stray cats that no one cares about? None of them have a Spirit. They all have souls but no spirit. I love my dog, and he loves me. Its real emotion. But he still does not have a spirit.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

This passage here isnt for cows, goats, roaches, robins, whales or any other animal that has ever existed. Only MAN, as we have a SPIRIT.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 11, 2014, 08:19:07 am
Ive been seeing this push now for a while from Libs, pseudo-christians, closet catholics and now the pope to elevate animals to be equal with man. Im sure the next step will be they also can have salvation and that we can baptize the creature and creation. Creation itself is fallen and will not be restored until the Lord returns. This just seems like some kind of plow, just like the Pope wants to baptize aliens, and that they wouldnt have original sin.  ::) When Adam fell he took all of creation with him. But still the animals do not have a spirit.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 11, 2014, 07:42:58 pm
Pope’ Claims Mary Was Conceived ‘Without Original Sin’ During Feast of Immaculate Conception

 In one of the feasts and celebrations marked on the Roman Catholic liturgical calendar leading up to Christmas, Catholics around the world observed the Feast of Immaculate Conception on Monday, a day in which those who follow the religion commemorate their belief that Mary was born without sin.

The pontiff known as Pope Francis led Catholics in the annual observance of the holiday, delivering an Angelus address in St. Peter’s Square.

“Oh Mary, our mother, today the people of God in celebration venerates you, the immaculate, preserved from the contagion of sin from the beginning,” he prayed. “Accept the gift I offer on behalf of the church in Rome and throughout the whole world.”

“In this time that leads us to the feast of the birth of Jesus, teach us to go against the tide,” Francis continued. “The power of God’s love, which has preserved you from original sin, freed all of humanity through your intercession from every spiritual and material slavery and made the designs of God’s salvation victorious within hearts and events.”

According to the National Catholic Register, he also declared to the crowds gathered that in Mary “there was no room for sin,” because “God had chosen her to be the mother of Jesus,” which resulted in her being preserved from “original sin.”

The pontiff later venerated the Statue of the Immaculate Conception in Rome’s Piazza di Spagna and invited others to join him. The statue was created in 1857 as a mark of the Roman Catholic belief that Mary was conceived without sin.

“I ask you to spiritually unite yourselves to me in this pilgrimage, which expresses filial devotion to our heavenly mother,” he said

Francis also visited the Basilica of St. Mary Major, where he venerated the statue known as the Salus Populi Romani.

The concept of the “immaculate conception” was declared by Pope Pius IX on December 8, 1844, who issued a proclamation stating, “The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.”

But some state that the Roman Catholic holiday is unbiblical as there is no Scriptural basis to state that Mary was sinless, which is also noted in the Catholic Encyclopedia.

“We know from Scripture that Mary must have known she was a sinner who needed a Savior when she said, ‘My spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior’ (Luke 1:47),” Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries told Christian News Network. “The infallible word of God declares that ‘all of sinned and fall short of the glory of God’ (Rom. 3:23). Mary was no exception. God’s word tells us that sin entered the world through Adam, ‘and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned’ (Rom. 5:12).”

“The doctrine of Mary’s pure conception without sin is pure heresy,” he continued, adding that Catholic doctrine not only teaches that Mary was sinless, but that she has power to save. “[The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC)] teaches ‘Mary did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.’ (CCC, para. 969). ‘The Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things. In giving birth, you kept your virginity. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.’ (CCC, para. 966).”

Gendron said that the CCC also instructs that Mary is ” to be praised with special devotion (CCC, para, 971) and that “[s ]he was the cause of salvation for herself and the whole human race (CCC, para. 494).”

“The Catholic Church promises that all those who seek Mary’s protection will be saved for all eternity,” he stated.

Gendron, a former Roman Catholic who now leads a ministry to evangelize Catholics, stated that these teachings are unbiblical as the Scriptures give no veneration to Mary throughout her earthly life.

“These doctrines have robbed God of His glory and have resulted in Catholics showing greater devotion to Mary than to the Lord Jesus Christ,” he said. “When she appears with the other believers on the day of Pentecost, she’s not an object of worship or even a leader in the early church. There are no occasions of anyone ever praying to her, honoring her or venerating her. She is never mentioned in any presentation of the Gospel.”

“Jesus Christ alone is our Redeemer, Deliverer, Mediator and Advocate. He alone is to be worshiped, adored, honored and praised now and throughout all eternity!” Gendron declared. “May Catholics comes to their senses through repentance and faith in the only sinless Mediator!”

http://christiannews.net/2014/12/10/pope-claims-mary-was-conceived-without-original-sin-during-feast-of-immaculate-conception/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 11, 2014, 07:49:50 pm
Quote
According to the National Catholic Register, he also declared to the crowds gathered that in Mary “there was no room for sin,” because “God had chosen her to be the mother of Jesus,” which resulted in her being preserved from “original sin.”

Lev 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 12:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
Lev 12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Lev 12:4 And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
Lev 12:5 But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.
Lev 12:6 And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
Lev 12:7 Who shall offer it before the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
Lev 12:8 And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

uk 2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
Luk 2:22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
Luk 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;)
Luk 2:24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.



hmmmmm....


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 13, 2014, 04:40:29 am
‘Pope’ Claims Mary Was Conceived ‘Without Original Sin’ During Feast of Immaculate Conception

In one of the feasts and celebrations marked on the Roman Catholic liturgical calendar leading up to Christmas, Catholics around the world observed the Feast of Immaculate Conception on Monday, a day in which those who follow the religion commemorate their belief that Mary was born without sin.

The pontiff known as Pope Francis led Catholics in the annual observance of the holiday, delivering an Angelus address in St. Peter’s Square.

“Oh Mary, our mother, today the people of God in celebration venerates you, the immaculate, preserved from the contagion of sin from the beginning,” he prayed. “Accept the gift I offer on behalf of the church in Rome and throughout the whole world.”

“In this time that leads us to the feast of the birth of Jesus, teach us to go against the tide,” Francis continued. “The power of God’s love, which has preserved you from original sin, freed all of humanity through your intercession from every spiritual and material slavery and made the designs of God’s salvation victorious within hearts and events.”

According to the National Catholic Register, he also declared to the crowds gathered that in Mary “there was no room for sin,” because “God had chosen her to be the mother of Jesus,” which resulted in her being preserved from “original sin.”

The pontiff later venerated the Statue of the Immaculate Conception in Rome’s Piazza di Spagna and invited others to join him. The statue was created in 1857 as a mark of the Roman Catholic belief that Mary was conceived without sin.

“I ask you to spiritually unite yourselves to me in this pilgrimage, which expresses filial devotion to our heavenly mother,” he said.

Francis also visited the Basilica of St. Mary Major, where he venerated the statue known as the Salus Populi Romani.

The concept of the “immaculate conception” was declared by Pope Pius IX on December 8, 1844, who issued a proclamation stating, “The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.”

But some state that the Roman Catholic holiday is unbiblical as there is no Scriptural basis to state that Mary was sinless, which is also noted in the Catholic Encyclopedia.

“We know from Scripture that Mary must have known she was a sinner who needed a Savior when she said, ‘My spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior’ (Luke 1:47),” Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries told Christian News Network. “The infallible word of God declares that ‘all of sinned and fall short of the glory of God’ (Rom. 3:23). Mary was no exception. God’s word tells us that sin entered the world through Adam, ‘and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned’ (Rom. 5:12).”

“The doctrine of Mary’s pure conception without sin is pure heresy,” he continued, adding that Catholic doctrine not only teaches that Mary was sinless, but that she has power to save. “[The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC)] teaches ‘Mary did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.’ (CCC, para. 969). ‘The Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things. In giving birth, you kept your virginity. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.’ (CCC, para. 966).”

Gendron said that the CCC also instructs that Mary is ” to be praised with special devotion (CCC, para, 971) and that “[s ]he was the cause of salvation for herself and the whole human race (CCC, para. 494).”

“The Catholic Church promises that all those who seek Mary’s protection will be saved for all eternity,” he stated.

Gendron, a former Roman Catholic who now leads a ministry to evangelize Catholics, stated that these teachings are unbiblical as the Scriptures give no veneration to Mary throughout her earthly life.

“These doctrines have robbed God of His glory and have resulted in Catholics showing greater devotion to Mary than to the Lord Jesus Christ,” he said. “When she appears with the other believers on the day of Pentecost, she’s not an object of worship or even a leader in the early church. There are no occasions of anyone ever praying to her, honoring her or venerating her. She is never mentioned in any presentation of the Gospel.”

“Jesus Christ alone is our Redeemer, Deliverer, Mediator and Advocate. He alone is to be worshiped, adored, honored and praised now and throughout all eternity!” Gendron declared. “May Catholics comes to their senses through repentance and faith in the only sinless Mediator!”

http://christiannews.net/2014/12/10/pope-claims-mary-was-conceived-without-original-sin-during-feast-of-immaculate-conception/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 13, 2014, 07:30:18 am
Smoking gun? Pope Francis’ critics cite new book in questioning his papacy

Was there a secret plot to elect Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio at the papal conclave last year?

Did Bergoglio — who became Pope Francis at that conclave — give the go-ahead to such a plan?

And does that campaign call his election, and his papacy, into question?
 
 

Such questions might sound like plot twists to a new Vatican thriller by Dan Brown, but they are actually the latest talking points promoted by some Catholic conservatives upset with the direction that Francis is leading the church.

The furor stems from a behind-the-scenes account of the March 2013 conclave, presented in a new book about Francis titled “The Great Reformer: Francis and the Making of a Radical Pope.”

In the last chapter of the biography, which focuses on Bergoglio’s early life in Argentina and career as a Jesuit, author Austen Ivereigh delivers an insider account of how a group of cardinals who wanted a reformer pope quietly sought to rally support for Bergoglio in the days leading up to the conclave.

Cardinals take an oath not to divulge details of a conclave and Ivereigh based his account on background interviews with cardinals who took part.

He called Francis’ boosters “Team Bergoglio.” They were led by reform-minded European churchmen like Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor of England, who Ivereigh once worked for, and German prelates like Cardinal Walter Kasper, who has become a trusted theological adviser to Francis.

At one point, Ivereigh writes that members of “Team Bergoglio” sought the Argentine cardinal’s “assent” that he would not refuse the papacy if the voting turned his way. During the 2005 conclave, Bergoglio reportedly refused to take up the mantle when he was running second to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who would eventually be elected Pope Benedict XVI.

This time, Ivereigh writes, Bergoglio “said that he believed that at this time of crisis for the Church no cardinal could refuse if asked.”

In conclaves, cardinals often signal whether they would refuse or go along with an election, if it happened.

Also, while overt politicking is strongly discouraged, and conclave rules expressly forbid dealmaking, cardinals often coalesce in camps behind one contender or another.

But when Ivereigh’s book was published last month (he personally presented a copy to Francis), media accounts of the politics of the conclave prompted some to question whether Bergoglio himself was involved by giving the go-ahead, and whether that could undermine the legitimacy of his election.

Murphy-O’Connor’s press secretary wrote a letter to a British newspaper saying that no approach had been made to Bergoglio seeking his assent.

And on Monday (Dec. 1), the Rev. Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, issued a statement saying the cardinals cited “have expressly denied this description of events, both in terms of the demand for a prior consent by Cardinal Bergoglio and with regard to the conduct of a campaign for his election.”

Church sources said the Vatican’s quick reaction was an indication of how concerned Rome is that Francis’ opponents will use any pretext to try to sow doubts about him and his papacy.

Ivereigh, a leading Vatican expert who was in New York this week to promote his book, said Tuesday (Dec. 2) that he stands by his reporting. But Ivereigh said he regretted phrasing the episode to make it seem that Bergoglio had been approached about being a candidate and gave his backers encouragement.

“That never happened and I am sorry that I gave the impression that’s what happened,” Ivereigh told Religion News Service. “I think the whole chapter makes clear that he never had any role at all in his own election.”

Ivereigh said he was trying to show that as opposed to the 2005 conclave, Bergoglio’s supporters in 2013 “were convinced he wouldn’t resist his election.”

“The conclave rules do not prevent cardinals from urging other cardinals to vote for a particular person,” he added. “And indeed that is exactly what happens. That is part of the discernment that happens in a papal election.”

Ivereigh said he will be changing the wording of one paragraph in future editions of the book to clarify Bergoglio’s role. (NOTE: See text of the wording change at the end of this story.)

Whether that will satisfy the critics is unclear.

Some fringe elements in the Catholic Church have proposed various theories they claim might either invalidate the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI in February 2013 or the election of Francis the following month.

Others see the accounts of conclave machinations as further evidence that Pope Francis is, for them, a far more manipulative and autocratic figure than the public believes.

Ivereigh says that in future reprints of “The Great Reformer,” the paragraph at the top of Page 355 will be amended as follows:

EXISTING

They had learned their lessons from 2005. They first secured Bergoglio’s assent. Asked if he was willing, he said that he believed that at this time of crisis for the Church no cardinal could refuse if asked.

NEW

In keeping with conclave rules, they did not ask Bergoglio if he would be willing to be a candidate. But they believed this time that the crisis in the Church would make it hard for him to refuse if elected.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/smoking-gun-pope-francis-critics-cite-new-book-in-questioning-his-papacy/2014/12/05/9d6dc0ec-7cb2-11e4-8241-8cc0a3670239_story.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 15, 2014, 08:41:06 pm
http://qz.com/310652/2014-was-the-most-progressive-year-for-the-catholic-church/
2014 was the most progressive year for the Catholic Church
12/15/14

Pope Francis initiated a revolution in the Catholic Church in 2014—a revolution of common sense rather than ideology or doctrine.

The new tone he is trying to achieve is a lucid response to the concerns that have chased many people, especially the young, away from the Catholic Church. The logic seems clear:

Church leaders’ chilly public use of the term “disordered” for homosexuality has been replaced by the pope’s call for the church to help families better accept their gay and lesbian children—following on his famous remark, “Who am I to judge?”

With strong evidence that people are turned off if religious leaders come across as partisan, the pope has avoided the US bishops’ focus on fighting gay marriage and abortion and instead encouraged a broader agenda by emphasizing inequality, which, as he tweeted, “is the root of social evil.”

The carte blanche for bishops to abuse their authority was revoked as prelates such as Germany’s “bishop of bling,” Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst, were removed from power, with the promise of more to come as Francis deals further with the clergy sexual abuse scandal.

After leaks, paranoia and corruption allegations swirled through the Vatican, Pope Francis has cleaned up the Vatican Bank, assailed clericalism, shamed other prelates with his simple lifestyle and taken unprecedented steps toward creating transparency by participating in a string of revealing media interviews.

These are all common-sense steps to address problems that have driven many Catholics away from the church, especially in Europe and the US—where lapsed Catholics would comprise the second largest “denomination” after the Catholic Church itself. Likewise, his focus on poverty and his effort to downplay “small-minded rules” in favor of the central Christian message—“Jesus Christ has saved you”—speaks especially to Latin America, where many Catholics have switched to Protestant worship.

But as Will Rogers famously said, “Common sense ain’t common,” and Francis’s open-armed approach has been labeled the source of “confusion” by some “orthodox” Catholics. In a widely discussed New York Times column, Ross Douthat warned that the church could be headed for a schism if its more welcoming attitude leads it to accept divorce.

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Post by: Mark on December 20, 2014, 06:28:19 am
Pope says will not be around in 10 years

Pope Francis said Friday he will not still be in the Vatican in ten years' time.

Greeting athletes and officials from the Italian National Olympic Committee, the 78-year-old pontiff wished them well with their bid to host the 2024 Games, but said he would not be around to watch them.

"Dear friends, best wishes for Rome's bid to host the 2024 Olympic Games," he said. "I will not be there. May the Lord bless all of you and your families."

It was not the first time the pope, who turned 78 on Wednesday, has hinted he does not think he will last very long at the helm of the Catholic Church.

On his way back from South Korea in August he lightheartedly remarked to reporters that he may have only two or three years left to live.

Responding to a question about how he deals with his astonishing global popularity, he replied: "I try to think of my sins, my mistakes, not to become proud. Because I know this will last a short time, two or three years, and then I'll be off to the house of the Father".

The Argentinian pontiff has also stated that he could retire if his health fails, as his predecessor Benedict XVI did last year in what was the first voluntary papal resignation in more than 700 years

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-not-around-10-years-153244751--oly.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 20, 2014, 08:01:40 am
Pope Francis’ Image Positive in Much of World

A median of 60% across 43 nations have a favorable view of the pontiff. Only 11% see the pope unfavorably, and 28% give no rating. Francis’ strongest support comes from Europe, where a median of 84% offer a favorable rating. Latin America – the pope’s home region – also gives him high marks, with 72% saying they have a positive opinion.1   

rest: http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/12/11/pope-francis-image-positive-in-much-of-world/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 20, 2014, 08:06:47 pm
Pope says will not be around in 10 years

Pope Francis said Friday he will not still be in the Vatican in ten years' time.

Greeting athletes and officials from the Italian National Olympic Committee, the 78-year-old pontiff wished them well with their bid to host the 2024 Games, but said he would not be around to watch them.

"Dear friends, best wishes for Rome's bid to host the 2024 Olympic Games," he said. "I will not be there. May the Lord bless all of you and your families."

It was not the first time the pope, who turned 78 on Wednesday, has hinted he does not think he will last very long at the helm of the Catholic Church.

On his way back from South Korea in August he lightheartedly remarked to reporters that he may have only two or three years left to live.

Responding to a question about how he deals with his astonishing global popularity, he replied: "I try to think of my sins, my mistakes, not to become proud. Because I know this will last a short time, two or three years, and then I'll be off to the house of the Father".

The Argentinian pontiff has also stated that he could retire if his health fails, as his predecessor Benedict XVI did last year in what was the first voluntary papal resignation in more than 700 years

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-not-around-10-years-153244751--oly.html

Deep down inside, even he probably knows the end is near...

Luke 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26  Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 21, 2014, 08:45:41 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/popes-role-cuba-deal-fractures-cuban-american-flock-160937063.html
Pope's role in Cuba deal fractures Cuban-American flock
12/21/14

MIAMI (AP) — The key role Pope Francis played encouraging talks between Presidents Barack Obama and Raul Castro left fractures among his flock in South Florida, where many older Roman Catholics equate the Castro brothers with the devil.

Many Catholics worldwide have expressed pride in seeing Francis stirring hopes of progress in communist Cuba, but some Cuban-Americans say their spiritual leader betrayed them.

"I'm still Catholic till the day I die," said Efrain Rivas, a 53-year-old maintenance man in Miami who was a political prisoner in Cuba for 16 years. "But I am a Catholic without a pope."

Rivas said he cried when Obama surprisingly announced a reversal of a half-century's efforts to isolate Cuba. Then, when he learned of Francis' role, he got angry.

Miami Archbishop Thomas Wenski acknowledged that some Catholics are "concerned or suspicious," but said many more exiles welcome the breakthrough, despite their suffering.

"The pain is real, but you can't build a future on top of resentments," Wenski told The Associated Press in an interview.

The Vatican has been reaching out to Cuba at least since Pope John Paul II, who declared during his historic 1998 visit to the island, "May Cuba, with all its magnificent potential, open itself up to the world, and may the world open itself up to Cuba." Discussions continued under Pope Benedict XVI, who visited Cuba in 2012. And Francis, the first Latin American pope, has advocated for an end to the U.S. embargo since participating in John Paul's visit to Cuba as the soon-to-be-named Cardinal of Buenos Aires.

Cuban Cardinal Jaime Ortega, who is close to Francis, set up the papal visits and has been decisive in improving ties between the church and the officially atheist state since becoming Havana archbishop in 1981. This frustrates some older Catholics who wanted the church to use its unique position inside Cuba to take a harder line.

"The church is contaminated," said Miguel Saavedra, a 57-year-old Miami mechanic who leads an anti-Castro group and wears a gold cross as a sign of his Catholic faith.

Exiles incensed by the diplomacy openly wonder: Was Francis strong-armed by President Barack Obama? Does he understand how terrible the Castro brothers are? Was he perhaps making a foolhardy bid to cement his change-making image?

"I don't know what the pope was thinking," said Jose Sanchez-Gronlier, a 53-year-old lawyer who said he was persecuted for his faith until leaving Cuba as a teenager, and will never forget watching the government seize a convent near his childhood home. "I see a certain naivete in the pope," he said.

Sen. Marco Rubio, a Cuban-American from Florida who has led the Republicans' criticism of Obama's executive actions on Cuba, also took a swipe at the pope, telling reporters in Washington that he would "ask His Holiness to take up the cause of freedom and democracy."

All this is familiar territory for Francis, who has spent a lifetime navigating the after-effects of the Cold War in Latin America. In his writings before becoming pope, the Argentine church leader criticized Cuban state authoritarianism as well as the U.S. embargo, and called on both sides to talk out their differences. As pope, he wrote to both Obama and Castro suggesting that a thaw could begin by releasing prisoners.

But Arturo Suarez-Ramos, a 50-year-old Miami waiter who was a political prisoner in Cuba for 27 years, said Francis is reaching for more headlines after insisting that homosexuals and divorced people are welcome in church.

"He's trying to get a legacy at any price," Suarez-Ramos said.

The Catholic Church remains the dominant religious force in Cuba, though attendance at Mass is low after decades of official atheism. It has long provided an alternative power center where at least some criticism of the government was possible. Its mediation role could be seen as a reason to trust the promises of change that both Obama and Castro made this week, but many remain wary.

Jay Fernandez, a retiree who left Cuba in 1961, said Francis acted like a beggar, taking whatever scraps of concessions the Cuban government offered.

"He wants to be everywhere, he wants to be liked by everyone," Fernandez said. "That's his job to be a peace guy, but it doesn't accomplish a damn thing, especially in Cuba."

U.S. bishops also have long called for an end to the embargo and for improved relations with Cuba. Engagement can do more than isolation to open up Cuban society and improve human rights and religious liberty, they said.

That message seemed to connect with some attending midday Mass at Ermita de la Caridad, a church dedicated to Cuba's patron saint.

"This is the best thing that could have happened," said Lucresia Leon, 70, who left Cuba during the 1980 Mariel boatlift, when 125,000 fled the island. She smiled widely, saying "Everything will be fixed."

Draped in the bright purple vestments of Advent, the Rev. Juan Rumin Dominguez, who arrived from Cuba nine years ago, said accepting change is not a simple thing.

"It's not easy, but the faithful people in these kinds of situations know to trust in God," the priest said. "We are a faithful people. We have confidence because God has his plan."

Historian Jesus Mendez, a Cuban exile who teaches at Barry University and has written about the Latin American church, said most Catholics will welcome the pope's intervention as an effort to increase religious freedom on the island.

"He's very concerned over the decline of Catholic fervor, primarily in Europe but also even in the United States and Canada, so of course he sees it important to have a high profile for the Catholic Church in Cuba," Mendez said.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 29, 2014, 06:37:59 pm
http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/12/pope-to-push-for-action-on-climate-change/
12/29/14
Pope to push for action on climate change
Upcoming encyclical will urge Catholics to act on "moral and scientific grounds."


Over the weekend, The Guardian reported that Pope Francis will issue an encyclical urging Catholics to push for action on climate change. The push will coincide with the efforts to follow up on the Lima agreement in the hope that they will lead to binding agreements for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

Although the Vatican has not confirmed that the document is in the works, the article quotes several authorities by name, and they speak as if it is a done deal. The document would be in keeping with the Pope's messages on environmental stewardship; the article quotes Francis as telling an audience in Latin America, "Climate change, the loss of biodiversity and deforestation are already showing their devastating effects in the great cataclysms we witness.” It's also consistent with his general high regard for scientific findings.

The Pope will join a variety of voices pushing for action next year and will undoubtedly add to the political pressure for an agreement. A more relevant question may be whether Francis can sway anyone who wasn't already interested in seeing progress made on the climate.

For example, The Guardian notes that Cardinal George Pell, who is currently on staff at the Vatican, has frequently and publicly questioned our scientific understanding of climate. In a speech he gave to a UK think tank that questions the reality of anthropogenic climate change, he raised many of the tired, already-answered arguments that are features of the self-labelled "skeptic" community. (He also quotes some of the least reliable sources of climate information out there.)

There's also little indication that many Catholics actually follow their leadership on scientific matters. The church hierarchy has been nearly unanimous in its acceptance of evolution for decades, yet over a quarter of US Catholics continue to reject it.

And it's already clear that the Pope's message will be lost on non-Catholics. The Guardian quotes a representative of a US evangelical group as saying "The pope should back off" and the Vatican "has been misled on the science." That group, the Cornwall Alliance, is about as well-informed as Cardinal Pell, given that its statement on climate change contains things like "We deny that carbon dioxide—essential to all plant growth—is a pollutant."

The Cornwall Alliance's statement also makes clear that the issues it sees are as much economic as ethical. It argues that action on climate "will greatly increase the price of energy and harm economies," and that renewable energy would fail, "to provide the abundant, affordable energy necessary to sustain prosperous economies or overcome poverty."

Given the Pope's messages on environmental stewardship have tended to come wrapped in the language of social justice and questions about the ethics of laissez-faire capitalism, they're more likely to harden this opposition than convert it.

None of this is to say that the encyclical is irrelevant. The Pope could add a significant push to the building momentum for a climate agreement and may be able to sway undecided Catholics. But it's doubtful that Francis' public statements will sway the hardened opposition.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 31, 2014, 01:24:11 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/228289-pope-francis-splits-with-gop
Pope Francis drives a wedge between Catholic Church, GOP
12/31/14

Pope Francis is increasingly driving a wedge between conservatives and the Catholic Church.


The magnetic pope has sparked new enthusiasm around the world for the church and has flexed his political muscles internationally, most recently by helping to engineer a new relationship between the United States and Cuba.



But Francis’s agenda, which also includes calls to address income inequality and limit climate change, is putting him at odds with Republicans, including GOP Catholics in the United States.


Hours after President Obama announced moves to ease trade and travel restrictions to Cuba, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a practicing Catholic and potential 2016 presidential candidate, criticized the deal and Francis's role in it.

“I would also ask His Holiness to take up the cause of freedom and democracy, which is critical for a free people, for a people to truly be free,” Rubio told reporters.

Rubio said that Cubans “deserve the same chances to have democracy as the people of Argentina have had, where he comes from, as the people of Italy have, where he now lives.”

His office declined additional comment for this story.

Fellow Catholic Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) said he wished Francis would stand up for the Cuban people "rather than their oppressors."

“Sadly, in the case of Cuba, the Catholic Church has not always applied its basic principles of human dignity and reverence for the God-given freedoms that belong to every soul. I was supremely disappointed by press reports that the Pope had a hand in urging President Obama to cede crucial leverage that could have been used to help the Cuban people become free,” Diaz-Balart said.



It's not the first time Francis has clashed with conservatives.

Since his papal inauguration in March 2013, the pontiff has publicly made policy remarks about income inequality and the environment that many American Catholics weren't used to hearing coming from the Vatican, and not just from the pulpit.

“Inequality is the root of social evil,” Francis tweeted in March, after months earlier slamming “trickle-down” economics as a “crude and naïve” theory.

Next year, as part of a speech he’ll give to the United Nations General Assembly, Francis will issue an edict urging the world's 1.2 billion Catholics to do what they can to fight climate change.


“He's modeling the church as a place for open disagreement,” said Vincent J. Miller, who chairs the University of Dayton's Catholic theology program. “In that sense, one of the most important changes he's making is that conservative politicians are now openly disagreeing with him,” Miller said.

Catholics have long been considered an important voting block in American politics and have turned out for the winning presidential candidate in the last three cycles.

A closer look at the Catholic vote reveals that white Catholics have supported the Republican candidate in each of those elections, while Hispanic Catholics have supported the Democratic candidate, according to Pew Research polling.

According to Pew, Catholics made up 24 percent of the electorate in the 2014 cycle, voting for GOP House candidates over Democratic ones 54 percent to 45 percent.

Francis himself enjoys a high favorability rating of 78 percent among all Americans, with only 11 percent disapproving of him and the remaining having no opinion, according to a Dec. 11 poll from Pew. Among Catholics, his favorability spikes to 93 percent.

Miller said Republicans are no longer able to use issues like abortion and gay marriage as the defining issues for American Catholics.



But Mauricio Claver-Carone, director of the conservative U.S.-Cuba Democracy PAC, said that by injecting his beliefs, Francis has alienated Cuban-Americans who are deeply opposed to the communist Castro regime in Cuba.




“I don't want the pope running the foreign policy of the United States, just as I don't think the president wants the pope running the social policy of the United States,” said Claver-Carone, referencing the pope’s anti-abortion rights views.

Progressive Catholics, however, such as Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of NETWORK, a Catholic social justice organization, are cheering Francis on as he calls for the world's elite to do more to help the poor. 



“Oh my gloria, this is a definite change in tone from being a 'scolder-in-chief' to being the one who identifies with the pain in our world,” said Simone, who organized the “Nuns on a Bus” cross-country tours.

“Pope Francis's message and tone are making Catholic Republicans a little uncomfortable,” Simone said. “He's stirring the concern on issues like poverty and the economy.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 04, 2015, 05:23:18 am
Obama finds an ally on political controversies at the Vatican

It’s not quite a gift from God but, politically, it may be the next best thing.

President Obama increasingly is finding a key policy ally in the Vatican, with Pope Francis standing virtually shoulder to shoulder with the White House on income inequality and a historic diplomatic reboot with communist Cuba. The pontiff next year also appears poised to offer greater support to the president on climate change initiatives and reportedly wants to be a leading voice at a U.N. global warming summit next year, where the American president will make perhaps his greatest pitch to date for more dramatic action on the environment.

For Mr. Obama and fellow Democrats, aligning with Francis offers clear benefits in the short term, as they are able to highlight agreement on controversial issues with one of the most respected figures on the planet.

But in the long term, analysts say, Democrats may pay something of a political price.

To soothe American Catholics, who may have grown suspicious of the church’s partnership with a liberal White House, the pope in the coming months and years is likely to zero in on fundamental disagreements with the Democratic Party on issues such as abortion and religious liberty, said Joseph Prud'homme, a political science professor and the director of the Institute for the Study of Religion, Politics, and Culture at Washington College.

“I believe Francis will remind the faithful in his position as supreme pastor about what he has consistently said about life and religious liberty. I hope, and I expect, that he will, after these initiatives [on Cuba and climate change], remind the faithful of the unending position of the church with respect to the sanctity of human life, the importance of religious liberty,” Mr. Prud'homme said.

He added that Francis could create a deeper, almost irreparable rift between the church and the Democratic Party and create further headaches for liberal Catholics in electoral politics unless the Democratic Party “changes and recalibrates its center of gravity away from these issues which, from the position of the church, represent grave and serious moral error.”

While abortion and other moral issues represent a philosophical chasm between the Catholic Church and the Democratic Party, the past several years have proved the two can work together.

The White House praised the pope this month for playing a critical role in a landmark deal with Cuba, one in which the U.S. will re-establish formal diplomatic ties and open an embassy in Havana for the first time in more than five decades.

Francis invited administration officials and representatives of Cuban President Raul Castro’s government to the Vatican for a series of meetings this fall. The first Latin American pope also sent letters to Mr. Obama and Mr. Castro, urging the two leaders to change course and end the isolation of the past 50 years.

“He played a very important role,” Mr. Obama said of the pontiff in an interview with ABC News this month. “The pope doesn’t wield armies. He can’t impose sanctions. But he can speak with great moral authority, and it makes a difference. And it certainly made a difference in this case.”

In a Dec. 17 statement, Francis welcomed the normalization of relations, and the White House circulated his words to members of the media.

The Vatican has long been critical of U.S. sanctions against Cuba. Pope John Paul II — one of the few world leaders to have been received by longtime strongman Fidel Castro in a business suit rather than fatigues — called the embargo an “oppressive, unjust and ethically unacceptable” burden on the poor during a pilgrimage to Cuba.

The pope also has become one of the Democrats’ biggest allies on income inequality, which Mr. Obama has cast as perhaps the biggest challenge facing the U.S. economy today.

Last year, Francis offered a clear rejection of “trickle-down economics,” seemingly embracing Democratic policies of greater redistribution of wealth to struggling Americans.

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Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/30/president-obama-sees-pope-francis-as-political-all/#ixzz3Nqopd6JR



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 11, 2015, 10:16:26 am
Elton John Tells Crowd of Stars and Donors: “Pope Francis is My Hero–Make Him a Saint Already!”

Elton John and David Furnish threw their annual AIDS fundraiser in New York Tuesday, with Sir Elton sitting down at the piano and playing his hits for the well-heeled, formal-clad crowd at Cipriani Wall Street. (UPDATE: They raised $3.7 million.)

The audience was more star studded than usual: Alec Baldwin with wife Hilaria, Mike Myers and his wife Kelly, Al Roker and Deborah Roberts, Matt Lauer, Cynthia McFadden, even New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and his lady friend, famous cook book author and lifestyle personality Sandra Lee was there. I ran into famed director Baz Luhrmann and his multiple Oscar wining wife Cahterine Martin as well.

Anderson Cooper was the emcee, as usual. Robert Kraft, owner of the New England Patriots, is a huge EJAF supporter. Other guests included Padma Lakshmi of “Top Chef,” Tommy Hilfiger, Neil Patrick Harris, and Tony winner Judith Light with actor husband Robert Desiderio.

Sir Elton spoke passionately about ending AIDS in his lifetime to the point that the EJAF could cease to exist. And he had high praise for the Vatican. “Pope Francis my hero,” he said, praising the Pontiff lavishly for his efforts to educate about AIDS and change international attitudes. The Pope should be doing the Crocodile Rock this morning after hearing so many compliments !

“He is a compassionate, loving man who wants everybody to be included in the love of God,” Sir Elton said of the pope. “It is formidable what he is trying to do against many, many people in the church that opposes. He is courageous and he is fearless, and that’s what we need in the world today.” He added: “Make him a saint already, ok?”

Elton and David are true mensches. Their charity is one of the most effective in the world when it comes to raising money and disbursing it for AIDS research and programs. They are far more frugal with their administrative money than some other more publicized groups, that’s for sure.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/10/29/elton-john-tells-crowd-of-stars-and-donors-pope-francis-is-my-hero


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 11, 2015, 09:56:26 pm
Yeah - when you have the wealthy, Christ-rejecting world LOVING a "Christian" leader, you KNOW something is TERRIBLY wrong!

James 2:1  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Jas 2:2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
Jas 2:3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Jas 2:4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
Jas 2:5  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
Jas 2:6  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
Jas 2:7  Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?





Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 14, 2015, 12:39:01 pm
http://www.inquisitr.com/1754307/pope-francis-demotes-conservative-american-cardinal-who-opposes-church-reform/
Pope Francis Demotes Conservative American Cardinal Who Opposes Church Reform
1/14/15

Pope Francis has demoted conservative American Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke in a move that was not all that unexpected, after the two clashed on several issues including the Pontiff’s wish to be more inclusive of homosexuals.

Burke — named by Pope Benedict XVI head of the Vatican’s supreme court — fell from grace after being overly vocal and disagreeing with Francis’ attempts to reform the Catholic Church and bring it into the 21st Century. Despite many expecting some action from Pope Francis, the demotion of the highest ranking American Cardinal is highly unusual.

The Catholic News Service explained why Pope Francis’ decision to demote Cardinal Burke from his powerful position, to the ceremonial post of chaplain of the charity group Knights of Malta, is not something the Vatican does lightly.

“The move had been widely expected since an Italian journalist reported it in September, and the cardinal himself confirmed it to reporters the following month.”

“It is highly unusual for a pope to remove an official of Cardinal Burke’s stature and age without assigning him comparable responsibilities elsewhere. By church law, cardinals in the Vatican must offer to resign at 75, but often continue in office for several more years. As usual when announcing personnel changes other than retirements for reasons of age, the Vatican did not give a reason for the cardinal’s reassignment.”

“A prominent devotee of the traditional liturgy and outspoken defender of traditional doctrine on controversial moral issues, Cardinal Burke had appeared increasingly out of step with the current pontificate.”

The decision to demote Cardinal Burke, 66, came on Saturday and was issued without comment from the Vatican’s spokesperson. Recently Burke has given interviews which were highly critical of the reformist Pope and has been vocally outspoken against the changes the Argentinian Holy Father is trying to implement.

Just last month, the demoted conservative Cardinal was the leader of dissent among those who think Pope Francis is going too far with this inclusive policy of homosexuals. At a meeting of Bishops it was clear that the two are at odds on this topic.

Vatican sources say the Pope Francis saw Burke’s outspokenness as part of the so-called “culture wars” among Catholics that he wants to avoid, according to Reuters. Similarly, Cardinal Burke was at odds with German Cardinal Walter Kasper, who had argued that the Church should modify teachings that ban divorced Catholics who have remarried in civil services from receiving communion.

Ever since being elected in March of 2013, Pope Francis has become extremely popular with Catholics and non-Catholics alike for his obvious interest in including those that are generally marginalized by the Church. This has gained him the admiration of millions, but has also angered the conservatives such as the recently demoted Cardinal Burke.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 14, 2015, 01:21:48 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-visits-buddhist-temple-sees-relics-rare-honor-165133240.html
Pope visits Buddhist temple, sees relics in rare honor
1/14/15

COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) — Pope Francis became the second pope to visit a Buddhist temple on Wednesday, changing his schedule at the last minute to pay his respects at an important place of worship in Sri Lanka's capital and to witness a key ritual for Buddhists: the opening of a casket of relics of two important disciples of the Buddha.

Francis listened respectfully as Buddhist monks chanted and prayed while opening the stupa, or casket, containing relics in the Agrashravaka Temple, the Vatican said.

Usually, the relics are only put on display once a year, and Buddhists from around Sri Lanka line up for days to pay homage to them since it is such a rare privilege.

The head monk at the temple, Banagala Upatissa, told The Associated Press that allowing the pope to witness the relics "is the highest honor and respect we can offer to his holiness."

Upatissa had invited Francis to visit the temple when he greeted him at Colombo's airport on Tuesday, the Vatican said. Upatissa, who heads the Mahabodhi Society Headquarters, an important Buddhist organization, is active in interfaith dialogue and visited the Vatican during Pope Benedict XVI's papacy; a photo of the two men is in one of the Mahabodi reception rooms.

St. John Paul II visited a Buddhist temple during a 1984 visit to Thailand.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Francis didn't pray or meditate during the visit, though he did take off his shoes as all visitors to the temple must do.

He noted that unlike Francis' recent visit to the Blue Mosque in Istanbul — where the pope did pause for a moment in prayer with the chief imam — this visit was a much shorter affair, arranged at the last minute.

"There was not a time of silence in this sense," Lombardi told reporters. "I can only say the pope was listening with great respect, and listening also to the prayer of the monk showing the relics and this was all."

The visit to the temple was one of three last-minute additions Francis made to his busy schedule Wednesday. After canonizing Sri Lanka's first saint and traveling to a northern jungle to Sri Lanka's holiest Christian shrine, Francis also met with the ousted president, Mahinda Rajapaksa, at the Vatican embassy.

Lombardi said Rajapaksa, who lost power in an election he called just days before Francis arrived, wanted to keep the encounter private.

Francis then met with Sri Lankan bishops, whose meeting had been scuttled on Tuesday because Francis was too tired after greeting dignitaries and crowds upon his arrival.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 16, 2015, 08:13:57 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11347931/Pope-Francis-You-cannot-make-fun-of-the-faith-of-others.html
Pope Francis: 'You cannot make fun of the faith of others'

Pope Francis says there must be limits to free speech when it comes to religion, speaking in reference to the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris last week

1/15/15

Pope Francis has weighed into the debate over freedom of expression in the wake of the murderous attacks in Paris, saying that anyone who insults a religion can expect “a punch in the nose”.

In provocative remarks which may cause consternation in France, the Pope said that freedom of expression had its limits, especially if it involved insulting or ridiculing religion.

He made the forthright comments to journalists on board his official plane as he flew from Sri Lanka to the Philippines, the two stops on his week-long visit to Asia.

Gesturing towards Alberto Gasparri, a Vatican official who organises pontifical trips and who was standing next to him on board the plane, he said: “If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch in the nose.”

Throwing a pretend punch, the Pope said: “It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.”

His remarks came a week after Islamic extremists stormed into the Paris offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and shot dead 12 members of staff, including some of its best known cartoonists, who for years had poked fun at Islam as well as other religions, including Christianity.

On Wednesday the magazine released a “survivors’ issue” which featured an image of the Prophet Mohammed on its front cover.

The edition also included highly provocative cartoons about the Catholic Church.

The Pope did not refer specifically to the magazine but said that insulting religions was unacceptable and dangerous.

“There are so many people who speak badly about religions or other religions, who make fun of them, who make a game out of the religions of others,” he said.

“They are provocateurs. And what happens to them is what would happen to Dr Gasparri if he says a curse word against my mother. There is a limit.”

The Pope in no way condoned the attack on Charlie Hebdo, insisting that violence carried out in God’s name was “an aberration.”

“One cannot make war [or] kill in the name of one’s own religion, that is, in the name of God.”

But those who ridiculed another religion should expect some sort of reaction, he said.


The Pope received a rapturous welcome after touching down in Manila, with hundreds of thousands of people crowding the road from the airport to the city centre to see him pass by in a Popemobile.

Millions of Filipinos are expected to turn out to see him during the five-day trip to the heartland of Catholicism in Asia.

The visit presents a massive security challenge for the Philippine authorities, not just because of the huge crowds expected but because of the Pope’s refusal to travel in bullet-proof vehicles, which he says obstruct his contact with ordinary people.

Authorities have appealed to Filipinos not to turn “a moving target into a stationary one” by inadvertently blocking his vehicle to get close to him or to snap a “selfie” photograph.

“If someone blocks the convoy by trying to get near the Holy Father and the convoy stops, what was a moving target becomes a stationary target,” President Benigno Aquino said before the Pope’s arrival. “I ask you, do you want history to record that a tragedy involving the Pope happened in the Philippines?”

Up to six million Catholics are expected to attend a Mass to be given by the Pope in a park in Manila on Sunday.

The history of papal visits to the Philippines offers little reassurance – during the first-ever pontifical visit in 1970, a Bolivian man donned a fake cassock and swung a knife at Pope Paul VI as he arrived at Manila airport, wounding him.

In 1995, a week before John Paul II’s visit, police uncovered a plot by foreign Islamist extremists to kill him by bombing his motorcade route in Manila.

An assessment of potential threats against Pope Francis, compiled by the Philippines government, identified home-grown Islamist groups as well as al Qaeda and Isil, which has repeatedly threatened to “conquer Rome” and plant its black flag on St Peter’s Basilica.

Nearly 50,000 soldiers and police are being deployed to protect the pontiff during his trip to the Philippines, where around 80 per cent of the population is Catholic.

Gridlock is expected to be so bad in Manila that 2,000 traffic police have been ordered to wear adult nappies, so that they can answer the call of nature on the spot and not have to abandon their posts.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 19, 2015, 04:36:42 pm
This is JMHO - I feel we're also seeing this FALLING AWAY in these other religious cults as well - look at the Mormon "church", its membership is declining(for example). Now look at what Pope Francis is doing to the RCC...

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/18/the_pope_francis_revolution_inside_the_catastrophic_collapse_of_the_catholic_right/
1/18/15
The Pope Francis revolution: Inside the catastrophic collapse of the Catholic right

Once a major political force with the power to derail presidential campaigns, right-wing Catholicism is in decline


For years they struck fear in the hearts of progressive Catholic candidates. They could, and did, help destroy presidential campaigns. The media took them seriously, reporting on their pronouncements as representative of a significant bloc of conservative Catholics. They were not legion; but they were powerful. They were the Christian right’s smaller, more shadowy counterpart: the Catholic right wing.

But now, many of their leading spokesmen—and they are almost all men—have been discredited within a stunningly short period. Former lights of the Catholic right like Bill Donohue and Cardinal Raymond Burke have seen their clout dissipate almost overnight. How did this happen and what does it mean for progressive Catholic candidates eyeing 2016?

Many on the right were the victims of their own rhetoric run amok. Catholic League President Bill Donohue is being widely pilloried for asserting in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack that “Muslims are right to be angry,” and that Hebdo editor Stéphane Charbonnier played a role in his own death. “Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive,” Donohue said in a statement that horrified even fellow conservatives.

Donohue, the leading proponent of the “war on Christmas” and other ginned-up made-for-Fox-News controversies over supposedly anti-Catholic persecution, was the ringleader behind efforts to discredit John Kerry with people of faith during the 2004 presidential election. He attacked Mara Vanderslice, Kerry’s first director of religious outreach, as an “ultra-leftist who consorts with anti-Catholic bigots” because of her work with organizations like ACT UP, an AIDS advocacy group that criticized the Catholic Church’s ban on condoms. The accusations spooked the Kerry campaign enough that they removed Vanderslice as head of outreach, even as Kerry, who is a committed Catholic, faltered in the polls with people of faith.

Her replacement, minister Brenda Peterson, lasted all of eight days before Donohue got her fired for signing an amicus brief in support of removing “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance. The Kerry campaign, like many in the media, believed that Donohue spoke for a wide segment of conservative Catholics and kowtowed to his demands. In hindsight, Peterson said, they didn’t understand that he was “a partisan, a member of the religious right intent on discrediting people of faith who signed on with Kerry.”

Cardinal Burke was another key player in smearing Kerry with Catholics. Shortly after it became apparent that Kerry would be the Democratic nominee, Burke began a national frenzy over pro-choice Catholics and the sacrament of communion when he asserted that he wouldn’t give Kerry communion because of his support of abortion rights. Kerry never overcame the negative publicity of paparazzi clustered around his church on “wafer watch,” and pro-choice Catholic candidates from Colorado to New Jersey found themselves under attack by culture warrior bishops following Burke’s lead.

But Burke was recently demoted by Pope Francis from his choice spot on the Vatican’s high court, basically put out to pasture as patron of a Vatican charity. And he became a laughingstock earlier this month when he claimed that an overly “feminized” church was responsible for everything from the shortage of alter boys to priests sexually abusing children.

Austin Ruse, head of the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute (C-FAM), has similarly been discredited. Ruse is the ringleader of efforts at the UN block funding and support for family planning and women’s rights programs. He organized a bloc of conservative NGOs and countries to stall reproductive health initiatives in the name of thwarting “radical feminists.” Like Donohue, Ruse specialized in over-the-top rhetoric that backed “pro-family” Republicans. In 2001, he bragged about joking with a priest on the floor of the UN about taking out Hillary Clinton, “and not on a date.”

But his organization, which was recently declared a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its anti-LGBT rhetoric, didn’t begin to lose widespread support until he asserted earlier this year that “the hard left, human-hating people that run modern universities” should “all be taken out and shot.”

This past December, meanwhile, New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, a favorite of the Catholic right himself, cut ties with longtime head of Priests for Life Frank Pavone for failing to come clean about the organization’s finances. Pavone has been on the rocks with the hierarchy for years, functioning outside the normal bounds of the priesthood as a sort of freelance anti-abortion crusader. But he was useful to the right-wing elements of the U.S. bishops’ conference in that he full-throatily trumpeted the message that Catholics couldn’t vote for pro-choice candidates in ways that the conference itself couldn’t, helping to solidify the bishops’ tacit alliance with the Republican Party. Priests for Life ran a $1 million “Campaign for Life” during the 2000 elections with full-page ads in the New York Times calling pro-choice Catholics a “scandal to the church,” and Pavone recently compared the support of abortion rights to supporting terrorism.

After years of demagoguery, why are these stalwarts of the Catholic right suddenly being tripped up by their own words? According to Jon O’Brien, president of Catholics for Choice, which has researched and reported extensively on the Catholic right, the answer is simple: Pope Francis. “The Catholic right found great succor—if not an outright endorsement—when Benedict was pope,” says O’Brien. “It was good times for the Catholic League and C-FAM and those who wanted a leaner and mean church. Pope Francis is no left-wing revolutionary, but he has let it be known that he doesn’t like a mean church. The leadership is no longer giving them cover.

And politically savvy bishops like Dolan, who has noticeably softened his conservative rhetoric, are distancing themselves from loose canons like Pavone who might damage them with Rome. At the same time, right-wing Catholics amped up their rhetoric to the point where even their follow conservatives are uncomfortable. “If you let extremism, particularly religious extremism, go where it goes, eventually it walks itself off a cliff,” says O’Brien. “The rhetoric of violence embraced by the right got them on Fox and even the mainstream media was seduced for a while, but eventually they undid themselves because they are not representative of mainstream spirituality. Now, even people who are legitimately conservative want to distance themselves from people like Donohue and Ruse.”

What does this means for potential Democratic Catholic candidates for 2016 like Vice President Joe Biden or former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley? For one, they will have more latitude now that they don’t have to worry about the right bird-dogging their every word on social issues and the media taking their critiques seriously. Even non-Catholic Barack Obama had to field an extensive Catholic outreach effort to avoid being pigeonholed by the right as anti-Catholic for his pro-choice stance.

At the same time, Pope Francis has increased the church’s emphasis on social justice issues and its critique of capitalism, which threatens to drive a wedge between the GOP and Catholics. That means Republican Catholics like former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie can no longer assume that their anti-abortion stance will mean photo-ops and not-so-subtle nods from Catholic bishops, like it did for George W. Bush. Also gone is the illusion that the support of far-right groups like the Catholic League or Priests for Life translates into support from Catholic voters. “The right wing will come back around. It always does,” says O’Brien. “But for now, they are out of vogue.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 19, 2015, 05:31:45 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=30083
LOOK WHAT MESSAGE THE VATICAN PAPAL PLANE IS PROCLAIMING
1/19/15

WATCHING AN UNSAVED WORLD PREPARING TO GO THROUGH THE TIME OF JACOB’S TROUBLE

“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.” Revelation 13:11 (KJV)

Pope Francis has an official papal plane that transports him across the world, provided to him by the Vatican. As such, his plane bears the official Vatican seal, their coat of arms. (The Vatican does not own this plane, but when the Pope flies on it, it is reserved exclusively for him and his entourage.) Directly under the Vatican seal, is a seal of another sort. This seal proclaims that the One World Religion spoken up by Daniel the prophet and picked up again in the book of Revelation is indeed the goal of this pope and of the Vatican system. It is just by coincidence, of course, that the Vatican loves to use One World Air to ferry the Pope around in though, I’m sure.

(http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/pope-francis-papal-plane-catholic-church-one-world.jpg)

“And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.” Revelation 16:13 (KJV)

When Francis steps off his plane, wearing his flowing white dress, the Vatican wants you to know and understand that their goal and mission is to bring the entire world together under the banner of Roman Catholicism and thereby create the One World Religion that the pope will be the False Prophet of. They know that their time is now, no more reason to hide their true intentions or beat around the bush.

“And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay,so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.” Daniel 2:41,42,44 (KJV)

With each passing day we get closer and closer to the time of the end. We are living in the last days of human history right before the event which will drive the world to it’s knees, the time of Jacob’s trouble.

But we who are saved are waiting for something else quite different, which will happen first.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 20, 2015, 04:37:58 am
Look What Message The Vatican Papal Plane Is Proclaiming

Pope Francis has an official papal plane that transports him across the world, provided to him by the Vatican. As such, his plane bears the official Vatican seal, their coat of arms. (The Vatican does not own this plane, but when the Pope flies on it, it is reserved exclusively for him and his entourage.) Directly under the Vatican seal, is a seal of another sort. This seal proclaims that the One World Religion spoken up by Daniel the prophet and picked up again in the book of Revelation is indeed the goal of this pope and of the Vatican system. It is just by coincidence, of course, that the Vatican loves to use One World Air to ferry the Pope around in though, I’m sure.

(http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/pope-francis-papal-plane-catholic-church-one-world.jpg).

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=30083


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 20, 2015, 06:58:50 pm
Is our LORD trying to tell us something via here? Maybe Pope Francis is the False Prophet of Revelation 13?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11354191/Pope-Francis-is-a-man-of-peace-and-immense-political-power.html
Pope Francis is a man of peace - and immense political power

The first non-European pontiff in almost 1,300 years is showing he has the capacity to be a truly global force for good in our time


6:15AM GMT 19 Jan 2015

It was probably the largest papal Mass in history. On Sunday, an estimated six million Filipinos went to Manila to witness Pope Francis celebrate communion – the crowning event of an astonishing tour. Over four days, His Holiness condemned corruption, visited a slum, and said Mass in a yellow cagoule, lashed by the driving rain. “I saw God in his eyes,” said one 13-year-old boy.

The success of the Philippines “show” tells us two things. First, that outside Western Europe a lot of people still believe in God. Here, we tend to regard religion as passé – something they did centuries ago, when unenlightened Europeans took the advice of burning bushes. But out beyond the EU, millions of people stubbornly continue to put their faith in the Almighty. The West may enjoy comparative power and wealth, but our attachment to secular liberalism is a minority opinion.

Europe’s loss of faith makes it harder for us to comprehend the wider world and contributes to cultural misunderstanding. Luckily, we have the Roman Catholic Church to act as interpreter. For the second thing that the crowds in Manila show is that Pope Francis is one of the most important diplomats of his era. He is a bridge between the West and the rest.

Of course, that’s always been the case. By historical accident the leadership of Catholicism is located in Rome, but its Christian origins were in the Middle East and many of its early saints and theologians were African. Today, it is a uniquely global Church, with around 1.2 billion members.

As its official face, the papacy has always enjoyed diplomatic clout. In the early 1800s, the Pope pressured heads of state to suppress the slave trade. In the Eighties, Pope John Paul II united Christians in opposition to communism. And Benedict XVI made overtures to the Eastern Orthodox – something that his intellectualism and love of liturgy made him especially well placed to do. The personality of the pontiff helps define his mission.

As such, Francis is especially suited to the challenge of reaching out to the developing world. He is the first non-European Pope in nearly 1,300 years, coming from a country – Argentina – whose history touches upon relevant themes of colonialism and struggle for democracy.

His emphasis is, sometimes regrettably, not upon liturgical richness but, happily, upon straightforward themes of love and compassion that resonate widely. In the Philippines, former street children asked him why God allowed suffering. When one girl broke down in tears, the Pope told her that crying cleansed the soul and asked why so few other women had been invited to speak. This is a cleric who is prepared to talk frankly and humanely about issues of injustice.

His simplicity appeals, too – although it can have a whiff of stage management. Often, the Pope is seen boarding a plane carrying his own bag. Why does he need a bag on a short flight? What’s in it? Paperwork? A toothbrush? One suspects that this is ostentatious modesty. But when talking to the press mid-flight, he displays a rugged kind of faith that, again, citizens of the developing world would appreciate more than “cosmopolitan” Europeans. His Holiness decried the killings in Paris but noted that when people love God like a father, you take a risk when you insult Him.

For perhaps the first time, many Western liberals were disappointed with Francis – for questioning the wisdom of blasphemy. But those who truly want to understand how Muslims feel about Mohammed could learn a lot from what he had to say. And those who routinely gripe about the moral conservatism of poorer peoples should understand that Francis’s blunt traditionalism also goes down well with those struggling to get by. Gay rights just aren’t as far up the political agenda in a country like the Philippines, where a quarter of the country lives on 60 cents a day and takes spiritual sustenance from a Church to which some 80 per cent of them belong.

The practical effects of having a Pope who can speak to two very different cultures was shown in the rapprochement of Cuba and America. We now know that the Vatican hosted secret talks between officials and that the pontiff wrote to both Barack Obama and Raul Castro.

President Obama said that Francis led through “moral example, showing the world as it should be, rather than simply settling for the world as it is”. Which is a very neat summary of Christianity in action, of being the change that one wants to see.

So we live in the age of a new super-pope. Forbes magazine called Francis the fourth most powerful man in the world; he has been tipped for a Nobel Peace Prize. There are downsides to that. Disappointment often trails promise, and we mustn’t forget that the Church is bigger than just the Pope. Nevertheless, as the West slowly surrenders its claim to leadership over the world, it is fortunate there is a charismatic transitional figure telling of peace, rather than seeking votes.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 22, 2015, 07:16:11 pm
http://theweek.com/articles/534933/pope-francis-allows-politics-distortthe-christian-faith
How Pope Francis allows politics to distort the Christian faith
1/22/15

Everyone seems to agree that Pope Francis is a unique figure. We’re told he is humble. He’s the “cool pope,” unlike his predecessor Benedict. He is “earthy” and creative in his insults. Some Catholics, even my friends, think he is uniquely pastoral and personable. Others, like myself, find him uniquely opaque and exasperating.

That lack of clarity is partially attributable to Francis' fascination with politics.  After the United States agreed to restore relations with Cuba, a deal that included the involvement of the pontiff himself, the Vatican’s secretary of state emphasized Francis’ ambitions for making the Holy See a bigger player in international diplomacy.

But it goes deeper than that. Politics and political metaphors shape his view of the world.

Francis’ most recent comments in Manila affirming the church’s ban on artificial contraception, as well as his later comment that Catholics are under no obligation to reproduce “like rabbits,” were shaped by a political frame. You might even say his view is distorted by politics.

Before his now infamous “rabbits” comment, Francis described the effort to legitimate the use of artificial contraception in the Philippines as “ideological colonization.” It reminded careful listeners of John Paul II’s phrase “contraceptive imperialism,” used to describe the way NGOs and other aid organizations premised aid on the acceptance and promotion of condoms or birth control pills.

In his interview, Francis said:

[Pope] Paul VI’s rejection [of contraception] was not just in reference to individual cases: he told confessors to be understanding and merciful. He was looking at a universal neo-Malthusianism which was calling on world powers to control birth rates: births in Italy dropped to less than 1 percent and the same in Spain. [Vatican Insider]

In Manila, the pope used similar language:

Just as our peoples, at a certain moment of their history, were mature enough to say "no" to all forms of political colonization, so too in our families we need to be very wise, very shrewd, very strong, in order to say "no" to all attempts at an ideological colonization of our families. [Vatican Insider]

As history, this is an expansive reading of events. Of course there were disciples of Malthus warning of overpopulation in the 1960s. But internally, Paul VI was faced with a panel of experts that he himself had convened, who asked if he could find some way to lift the ban, couching it in the same pro-family, pro-responsibility, “under limited circumstances” rhetoric that accompanied a repeal of the contraception ban in the Anglican Church at the Lambeth conference in 1931. Pope Paul’s response in the encyclical Humane Vitae was not particularly political. Rather, it affirmed that he and the church had no right to change the laws of God, then dwelled on the beauty and consolations of that teaching, and the possible consequences of not following it.
 
For a man who issues such colorful and memorable putdowns, it's an odd tic of Francis' to retreat into political formulas to describe what the church once understood in terms of personal sin. Francis seems less horrified by mortal sin than by Americanization. I’m sure he would clarify, if it were put to him that way. But it reveals an instinct.

Retreating into politics is comfortable for Jesuits of a certain age. Reducing or transmuting Christian liturgy, theology, and scripture into politically ideological terms (or saying that these artifacts of the faith can only be understood in such terms) is not unique to Francis or even the modern period. It has roots going back six centuries.

Francis’ determination to “make a mess,” his loquacity, and political instincts have a disorienting effect. They exacerbate the fact that the modern papacy has become as much a media institution as an ecclesiastical one. It gives the impression that the Christian religion is a series of policies, many of which the pope has the power to change. It gives aid to those confused theologians who think the historic dogmas and doctrines of the church are merely historically accidental “emphases” on this or that aspect of the gospel. Revised doctrines could presumably give a different but still legitimate emphasis on the same. So why not let this popular pope do just that?

In these same recent interviews, Pope Francis referenced a 1903 novel by Robert Hugh Benson, Lord of the World, which he has brought up before. Benson’s work is possibly the first ever dystopian novel. It’s about a Catholic apocalypse, treasured by some traditional Catholics. It’s the story of the anti-Christ taking power and restoring all peace to Europe through a universal dictatorship, which eventually sets out to exterminate the remnants of the church after a new, misguided Gunpowder Plot.

The protagonist eventually becomes a pope of an underground church. He mostly lives alone and in secret in the Middle East, offering the Mass and governing the remnant church through secret private messages sent out to individual bishops.

It is fascinating that Pope Francis keeps recommending this book to people, precisely because that fictive papacy is the very opposite of his: unpopular, feared, hated, and marginalized. It is entirely transfixed with Masses done in private, to please God and to reconcile the world to him. He faithfully recites the words handed onto him. He prays, and encourages.

It would be possible for a pope to imitate that example today from a Vatican palace. The pope would give only small private audiences, and trust other cardinals to give sermons at his public liturgies. His words would still govern and appoint, but from behind closed doors. But he would (and should) avoid Pope Benedict’s practice of publishing books while pope. He would extinguish Francis’ habit of extemporaneous speech. It would be a truly humble papacy, where politics is avoided, and where the personality of the occupant does not presage some reform. A servant of the servants.

One can hope.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: RickStudy on January 23, 2015, 07:00:17 am
I can Catholic bash with the best of em, nevertheless, and its a bit carnal I admit, but I find all this Catholic bashing on this site a bit entertaining. It reminds me of those old Benny Hill shows, I would always crack up when Benny would start smacking the old guy on the forehead.

When the hammer of God`s judgement  falls, and Peter does warn us that judgement will begin with the house of God, but when His hammer falls it will hit Protestant religion just as hard as it will Catholic religion.
The protestant reformation was and is a good thing but they brought plenty of catholic doctrine and tradition with it, more than most protestants realize.

Indeed, most of the protestant world remains connected to the pope through the world council of churches and it`s profession of faith. Nevertheless, the judgement s of God are not just for Catholicism and her children. No sir, it will affect those outside the Pope`s influence as well.
 


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 23, 2015, 10:03:57 am
I can Catholic bash with the best of em, nevertheless, and its a bit carnal I admit, but I find all this Catholic bashing on this site a bit entertaining. It reminds me of those old Benny Hill shows, I would always crack up when Benny would start smacking the old guy on the forehead.

When the hammer of God`s judgement  falls, and Peter does warn us that judgement will begin with the house of God, but when His hammer falls it will hit Protestant religion just as hard as it will Catholic religion.
The protestant reformation was and is a good thing but they brought plenty of catholic doctrine and tradition with it, more than most protestants realize.

Indeed, most of the protestant world remains connected to the pope through the world council of churches and it`s profession of faith. Nevertheless, the judgement s of God are not just for Catholicism and her children. No sir, it will affect those outside the Pope`s influence as well.
 

I went to a Protestant church(Lutheran) service 4 years ago - yes, it felt VERY Catholic(and secular humanist to boot) - at one point in the sermon, the "pastor" brought up some secular college professor in a bright light(which surprised me alot). And the portrait of Jesus they showed on the screen showed him holding 3 fingers up, and 2 fingers down(the 3 up/2 down on one hand is what occultists do - represents the number 32, which the number of rebellion, I think).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 23, 2015, 08:03:58 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30946059
Philippines homeless 'relocated' during Pope Francis visit
1/23/15

The government in the Philippines is facing calls for an inquiry after it admitted relocating homeless people temporarily during Pope Francis' visit.

Social welfare secretary Corazon Soliman said that nearly 500 people were taken from the streets of Manila to an upscale resort in the outskirts.

House of Representatives member Terry Ridon called for an inquiry, saying the move was a "clearing operation".

Pope Francis arrived in the Philippines last week and left on Monday.

Mr Ridon said the government relocation scheme was "truly horrendous, given the fact that Pope Francis visited our country to - first and foremost - see and talk to the poor."

The Philippine Star said he plans to summon Ms Soliman to explain her agency's actions before lawmakers.

'Safety and orientation'
Ms Soliman said in interviews this week that the homeless families were removed shortly before the pontiff arrived on 15 January.

Many of them lived along the Manila Bay seafront, the venue for Sunday's mass which drew a record crowd of six million.

On 14 January they were taken to the Chateau Royale resort, which charges hundreds of dollars for a room per night, and returned to the capital on Monday after Pope Francis had left.

The families are now temporarily residing at government facilities in Manila, Ms Soliman said.

About six million showed up at the Manila Bay seafront for the Pope's final mass before he left

She defended the move as an effort to protect them from large crowds and crime syndicates during the Pope's visit, adding that it was part of a scheme to eventually move them to rent-free temporary accommodation.

"Part of the orientation is to familiarise themselves with a room with a door and toilets," Soliman told the AFP news agency.

She insisted it was "not for keeping them out of sight", and said the Pope saw shanties and homeless people during his trip.

The controversy comes after reports that street children had been rounded up and put into cages in detention centres, which the government has denied.

Pope Francis had made poverty one of the central themes to his visit, calling for mercy and compassion for the poor and meeting and hugging street children.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 24, 2015, 10:19:00 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr-72zgcFi8


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 25, 2015, 04:19:11 pm
http://www.independentsentinel.com/pope-francis-will-fight-for-climate-change-funded-by-wealth-redistribution/
Pope Francis Will Fight for Climate Change Funded by Wealth Redistribution
by Sara Noble • December 29, 2014

Christians are being martyred worldwide but Pope Francis is focused on fiscal and climate matters. He seems to see the problems facing Christians as rooted in capitalism and global warming.

Pope Francis is planning to fight for climate change goals as outlined by the statists in the U.N. The only way the goals will be paid for is from wealth redistribution.

The U.S. will distribute and the statists will collect.


In May, Pope Francis called for governments to redistribute wealth to the poor in a new spirit of generosity to help curb the “economy of exclusion”. He called on the U.N. to promote “worldwide ethical mobilization” of solidarity with the poor and envisioned a more equal form of economic progress through “the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the state, as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society.”

Francis said something much the same when he spoke before the World Economic Forum last January and in his apostolic exhortation “The Joy of the Gospel.” That document seemed to denounce trickle-down economic theories as unproven and naive.

Pope Francis is fully involving himself in the affairs of state.

He has encouraged illegal immigration; helped Barack Obama open relations with Cuba for nothing in return; demonized fiscal conservatism; and said what worries him most is youth unemployment – he said that while Christians are being massacred by fascist dictators worldwide
. He is loosening up the Catholic Church’s views on gay marriage. Global income inequality is a prime area of concern. He’s called for sharing the wealth. Recently he said he wouldn’t close the door to talking with ISIS, the insane madmen who are raping, maiming, and brutally murdering Christians, Muslims and others.

He supports Obamacare even though it funds abortion.

Now Pope Francis is going to enter the climate change debate on the side of the U.N.

Pope Francis has written a rare papal encyclical on global warming. He is throwing his weight on the side of the climate change bullies led by U.N. statists and Barack Obama.

Early next year, Pope Francis will deliver a major statement on climate change to more than one billion Catholics worldwide. The papal encyclical is intended to influence the U.N. ahead of the 2015 Paris Climate Summit.

He’s going to tell world governments what actions they must take on climate change. He will release his mandates to Cardinals, Bishops, priests worldwide who will then tell their parishioners to follow the mandates.

He will also speak at the U.N. general assembly and will also call a summit of the world’s leading religions.

Somewhere in there, he will meet with the guru of dictatorial climate change fiats, Barack Obama.

In May, the Pope said exploiting nature was unsustainable.

The Guardian reported that Bishop Marcelo Sorondo, chancellor of the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences said it is the pope’s wish to directly influence next year’s crucial U.N. climate meeting in Paris, when countries will try to implement a form of Agenda 21.

“Our academics supported the pope’s initiative to influence next year’s crucial decisions,” Sorondo told Cafod, the Catholic development agency, at a meeting in London. “The idea is to convene a meeting with leaders of the main religions to make all people aware of the state of our climate and the tragedy of social exclusion.”

This will be used by the pen and phone president of the United States who has no intention of abiding by our laws for the remainder of his term.

The Guardian said climate change deniers will be upset.

Who denies the climate is changing? Who doesn’t want the earth cared for?

The fact is that we don’t know how or if we can affect the climate and the loons out there want to put us all back in huts for an ending we can’t possibly determine. Funds transferred to the U.N. for climate change will be misused by the dictators who get their hands on the money.

The “tragedy of social exclusion” as the Bishop called it means what exactly?

Why isn’t the Pope concerned about the communists, socialists, Islamo-Fascists in the U.N. who enslave and steal from the populace and who cause the income inequality, the poverty, and the social exclusion he is concerned about?

Pope Francis’ global warming goals are clear:

“An economic system centered on the god of money needs to plunder nature to sustain the frenetic rhythm of consumption that is inherent to it,” Francis said in October. “The monopolizing of lands, deforestation, the appropriation of water, inadequate agro-toxics are some of the evils that tear man from the land of his birth. Climate change, the loss of biodiversity, and deforestation are already showing their devastating effects in the great cataclysms we witness.”

He’s opposed to unbridled capitalism but it’s not clear where he draws the line.

His criticisms seemed aimed at our successful country and he shows more sympathy for the poor countries driven into the ground by statists. Is their a certain naiveté involved?

He will be used by the far left, but, then again, maybe he is the far left.

Pope Francis has been very clear – he’s not a communist. However, he likes income redistribution, has bought into the extreme climate change perspective, insists on income equality, dislikes conservatism – he recently fired his conservative Cardinal Burke, and has urged us to accept illegal immigration and amnesty. He has no regard for our laws. He appears to be using the same pen and phone that Barack Obama uses.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 25, 2015, 04:23:14 pm
http://theworldlink.com/lifestyles/faith-and-belief/pope-ridding-stereotypes-key-to-christian-muslim-relations/article_95243afb-daf2-5470-9827-b70547b5cb26.html
Pope: Ridding stereotypes key to Christian-Muslim relations
1/24/15

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis says the most effective antidote to violence among Christians and Muslims is learning about each other and then accepting differences.

Francis also told participants Saturday of a meeting promoted by the Pontifical Institute of Arab and Islamist Studies that only by carefully listening can interreligious dialogue make progress.

He said "patience and humility" are essential for deepened Islamic-Christian dialogue while merely superficial dialogue will only yield "stereotypes and preconceptions."

Francis added: "The most effective antidote to every form of violence is education about discovering and accepting difference as richness and fertileness."

He did not mention of the deadly jihadi attacks in supposed defense of Islam this month in France, but said "more than ever one feels the need" for such education.


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Post by: Mark on January 28, 2015, 11:18:23 am
Pope Francis opens doors to transsexual dubbed 'devil's daughter': report

Pope Francis has met a Spanish transsexual and his fiancée at the Vatican, opening his doors to a man dubbed "the devil's daughter" by a local priest, media reports said Tuesday.

Diego Neria Lejarraga met the pontiff on Saturday after writing to him in December to complain he was being treated as an outcast in his parish in Plasencia in western Spain, according to the Spanish daily Hoy.

The 48-year old, who has undergone sexual reassignment surgery, told Francis in the letter that he was treated poorly by parishioners and one priest had even called him "the devil's daughter".

The Argentine pontiff, known for calling people unannounced, rang Lejarranga on Christmas Eve and set up the meeting, which took place on Saturday but was kept off the official calendar, the report said.

The Vatican would neither deny nor confirm the meeting took place.

Officially the Church does not recognise sex changes but its current leader has urged it to show greater compassion towards sections of society which have felt excluded from its embrace, most notably when he said of homosexuals, "Who am I to judge?"

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/europe/story/pope-francis-opens-doors-transsexual-dubbed-devils-daughter-report-20150128#sthash.AoKUPQyu.dpuf



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Edward Palamar on February 02, 2015, 05:38:12 pm
38   And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 
39   But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Acts 5:38,39 (KJB)


The date of this quote is the last day of the 3 year 7 month rule by two as foretold in 16th century prophecy.  The following day began the world being turned into the hands of the antichrist, to continue for 1,290 days (Great and Holy Friday, March 24, 2016 A.D.) and then unto the First Judgment Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D. (1,335 days)  The Three Days of Darkness will occur during that week unto the First Judgment Sunday of Pentecost, May 15, 2016 A.D.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 03, 2015, 07:48:00 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/30/pope-francis-climate-change-epa-gina-mccarthy
Washington's memo to the Vatican: the pope and Obama are in sync on climate change

Gina McCarthy says pope can convince doubters that ‘science is real’
Obama ‘is aligned’ with pope on seeing climate change as a moral issue

1/30/15

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America’s top environmental official has assured the Vatican that the pope and Barack Obama are singing from the same hymnal when it comes to fighting climate change.

In a visit to the Vatican, Gina McCarthy, the head of the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), conveyed a message to the pope that Obama shared his view that fighting climate change was a moral obligation.

“I want him to know that the president is aligned with him on these issues and that we are taking action in the United States,” McCarthy told the National Catholic Reporter ahead of the meeting.

She went so far as to suggest that Obama was “working with the pope” when it came to climate change.

That alliance, between Obama and the pope, followed from the view that leaders have a moral duty to preserve the earth and protect those most at risk from the consequences of climate change, McCarthy said.

“I think the most important thing that we can do, working with the pope, is to try to remind ourselves that this is really about protecting natural resources that human beings rely on, and that those folks that are most vulnerable – that the church has always been focused on, those in poverty and low income – are the first that are going to be hit and impacted by a changing climate,” she said.

EPA officials said McCarthy used the meeting to applaud the pope’s efforts to fight climate change, and to brief the Vatican on Obama’s plan for cutting greenhouse gas emissions that are driving global warming.

“It was really about the efforts the US is taking on climate change and the need for everyone to be involved both domestically and internationally – both to work with the pope and thank for his efforts on this far,” a spokesperson said.

McCarthy did not meet the pope, but was greeted by a quartet of Vatican officials, Monsignor Antoine Camilleri, the undersecretary for relations with states and the ministry’s top environmental official, Paolo Conversi as well as Cardinal Peter Turkson, president of the pontifical council for justice and peace, and his director of environmental affairs, Tebaldo Vinciguerra. The four officials will help prepare a highly anticipated encyclical on the environment and climate change, expected to be published in June or July.

On Saturday, McCarthy was due to tour the Vatican’s solar panels, which are on top of the Paul VI hall.

The pope said earlier this month that climate change was “mostly” man-made, and he said he hoped the encyclical and a planned address to the UN in September would push leaders to take more “courageous” actions.

The EPA administrator was born into an Irish Catholic family from Boston.

Her trip to the Vatican, however, was part of a broader mission of putting climate change above partisan politics and persuading the American people to get behind the climate plan.

The pillar of the US climate plan – the first rules cutting carbon pollution from power plants are due to be finalised this summer. But they are under attack from Republicans in Congress and industry, who are trying to block or reduce the emissions cuts.

“One of the challenges that I think we face in the US is that climate change is very often viewed as a political issue,” McCarthy told reporters ahead of her meetings. “And environmental issues are not political.”

She went on: “I think we need to get this out of the political arena and get it back to the arena we work most effectively on: what’s right for our kids, for our families, for public health, and what solutions do we bring to the table that are going to address those?”

Obama has no chance of meeting his emissions reductions targets if those rules are stalled or weakened.

US officials and foreign diplomats believe an attack on those rules would shake international confidence in climate change negotiations heading towards a conclusion in Paris at the end of the year – putting the global effort to fight climate change in peril, along with that of the US.

Over the last 18 months, McCarthy has been doggedly visiting state and local leaders to try to gin up support for the power plant rules. Last week, she visited Aspen to mobilise support from the winter sports industry, which depends on cold weather and snow.

Some conservative sections of the church are opposed to Obama’s power plan.

“Preservation of the environment and promotion of sustainable development? No problem. But climate change and the blundering malicious environment of the UN? No thanks. The pope can do better,” wrote Thomas Peters, a writer for Catholic Vote.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 05, 2015, 12:49:20 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-says-pope-francis-address-u-congress-september-164920021.html
2/5/15

Boehner says Pope Francis to address U.S. Congress on September 24

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner said on Thursday that Pope Francis will address a joint session of the U.S. Congress on Sept. 24, marking the first time a pope has delivered such a speech.

The pope is expected to visit Washington, New York and Philadelphia during his trip to the United States. After the trip was announced last year, Boehner said that he had invited the head of the Roman Catholic Church to speak to lawmakers.

"On Sept. 24 His Holiness Pope Francis will visit us here at the United States Capitol. That day, His Holiness will be the first pope in our history to address a joint session of Congress," Boehner told reporters during his weekly press conference.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 08, 2015, 09:23:17 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-08/pope-francis-is-one-of-the-most-skilled-politicians-on-earth?cmpid=yhoo
2/8/15
The Pope Is One of the Most Skilled Politicians on Earth

He’s met with a transgender man, told Catholics not to breed like rabbits and washed the feet of a Muslim woman. While all this may sound like he’s ready to overturn dogma, Pope Francis’s real interest is geopolitics.

In less than two years in office, he’s nudged the conversation away from abusive priests and used the image makeover to wade into conflicts from helping to restore Cuban-U.S. ties to lobbying for a global climate accord. In September, he will become the first religious leader who serves as a head of state to address a joint session of Congress.

“He’s capitalizing on the fascination that he exercises,” said John Wauck, a professor at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome. “He’s gotten the attention of the world and is using it.”

By sidestepping the debate on abortion, gay marriage and sex, Francis has positioned himself for a role in world affairs, from the economic crisis to relations with China, according to Father Thomas Reese, author of “Inside the Vatican: The Politics and Organization of the Catholic Church.”

Pope John Paul II was single-minded in the pursuit of ending Communism in the 1980s, and Pope Benedict XVI was a gaffe-prone bookworm fretting over relativism. Francis, by contrast, embraces a broad policy agenda outside Vatican walls.

In an echo of the Obama administration, he is even making his own pivot to Asia. He already has been twice to the region shunned by his predecessor with a view not only to refilling pews but also gaining traction with the rising powers.

Beijing Calling
The challenge for Francis -- who hails from a religious order that proselytized in China in the 16th century -- is how to duplicate his Cuban success with a more formidable Communist foe. The Holy See and the world’s most populous country have been at odds since 1951 over, among many things, the right to ordain bishops.

Francis, who says he’d go to Beijing tomorrow, has a secret corridor with the new leadership for diplomatic messages. There have been small gestures on both sides: Francis didn’t see the Dalai Lama in Rome, a move that would have incensed Chinese authorities. President Xi Jinping allowed Francis to fly over China’s air space, the first time a pope was granted that right.

The road nonetheless will probably be long. To coax a prickly China, the pope would need to abandon Taiwan, which China has long claimed. There is little sign China is willing to stop its practice of naming bishops independently of the Holy See. China has about 12 million Catholics -- three times the number in Ireland -- compared with a mere 300,000 faithful in Taiwan.

Soft Power
There are limits to the reach of papal soft power (PDF) and a trip to China doesn’t appear imminent. By contrast, John Paul II made history less than a year into his papacy when he visited Communist Poland, his homeland, in an act of defiance against the Soviet Union.

When Francis was elected, few pegged him as a policy wonk. Unlike predecessors such as John XXIII and Pius XII who were Vatican envoys, Francis’s background betrayed no such preparation -- though the interest was always there. Eduardo Valdez, an Argentine diplomat who knew the pope when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, said the two of them never spoke of religion, only global politics.

“He was a frenetic reader of international affairs,” Valdez said.

The gap between knowledge and effectiveness may be large. Francis has dived into tough international conflicts including Korea, Cuba and Palestine and not all have gone well.

Pyongyang Silence
His call for reconciliation between the Koreas met with silence from Pyongyang; the day he arrived on the peninsula, North Korea fired missiles into the sea.

Francis did persuade Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and then-Israeli President Shimon Peres to exchange kisses, grab two shovels and break ground for the planting of an olive tree in the Vatican gardens. While he brought attention to the plight of Palestinians by praying in Bethlehem near graffiti that read “Free Palestine,” his visit was overshadowed by a resurgence in violence.

He was much more successful with Cuba, secretly hosting delegations from there and the U.S. and playing a vital role in the prisoner exchanges that led to renewed ties after half a century.

The pope’s international outlook also is evident in the reconfiguration of the College of Cardinals that will pick his successor, which raises the odds the next leader of 1.2 billion Catholics will hail from Asia or Africa.

Conservative Revolt
That reshuffle -- coupled with the removal of critics such as Boston’s Cardinal Raymond Burke from key positions -- has agitated a still-strong conservative wing of the church that would prefer a return to business as usual.

“A number of cardinals are upset,” said Father Gerald Fogarty, a professor of religious studies and history at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville. “You can’t expect the old guard to take it lying down, and they’ve been around a long time.”

He has announced plans to shrink the bureaucracy that runs the millennia-old church, removed executives at the mismanaged Vatican Bank and told cardinals to abandon their limousines and catch the bus.

At the bank, he’s brought a measure of transparency following allegations of illegal behavior and poor oversight. The bank now publishes an annual report, has closed 2,000 accounts and undertaken a review of 18,000 clients.

Carefully Planned
Drew Christiansen, a former director of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Office of International Justice and Peace, praised the pope’s openness but added that even though his statements may seem off the cuff, they are in fact carefully planned.

“There is a lot of thought put into his spontaneity,” said Christiansen, who has advised the church in its diplomatic dealings with China. “The overhaul in culture really means that when the pope speaks, people pay attention.”

Not everyone agrees. Traditionalists say he has assaulted doctrine. Some liberals say he is all talk and little substance. His changes inside the Vatican have won him internal enemies, while his expressions of tolerance to gays have earned him, in some quarters, faint praise for coming too late to make much difference: The pope who declined to offer a judgment about homosexuals still isn’t rushing to allow them to marry Church of England-style.
Even so, his charm offensive does seem to be affecting his flock. Church attendance is up, the number of voluntary donations known as Peter’s Pence rose 20 percent and he added 8 million followers to his multiple-language Twitter accounts in a year. His general audiences draw three times the crowd of his predecessor.


Positive Ratings
Unlike Benedict, who got negative ratings for his response to reports of sexual abuse, Francis enjoys a positive image around the world, Pew Research Center polls show.

Forty-four percent of adults polled said Benedict dealt with the church’s scandals poorly. By contrast, a median 60 percent of people surveyed in 43 countries looked upon Francis favorably. Even in the Middle East, where his standing is the worst, more people thought well of him than not.

Born to well-to-do Italian immigrants fleeing fascism, the pope, born Jorge Bergoglio, is the eldest of five children brought up in a middle-class neighborhood in the center of Buenos Aires. His grandmother, Rosa, not only told him stories about the lives of saints but also shaped his views on the excesses of capitalism, teaching him that “burial shrouds don’t have pockets.”

First Visit
Those views have only gotten stronger as he has ripped into “trickle-down economics,” much to the dismay of some potential 2016 Republican presidential candidates. Come September, he’s headed to New York for the United Nations’ annual gathering, then to Congress. It will be his first time ever in the U.S.

If his address to European Union lawmakers in November is any indication, Francis won’t spare the rod at the Capitol. He told Parliament that Europe was “somewhat elderly and haggard, feeling less and less a protagonist in a world which frequently regards it with aloofness, mistrust and even, at times, suspicion.”

On a trip back from the Philippines last month, he quipped he’d love to enter the U.S. from its border with Mexico as a way to honor immigrants.

With Wall Street in his sights, the pope has made clear that corporate greed and income inequality are priorities. He also has said he will issue an encyclical on global warming -- another papal first -- and will use his visit to the U.S. to explain that “it is man who has slapped nature in the face.” He may urge the White House to push for a climate deal in Paris in December.

His focus on getting things done quickly isn’t just because of the many church crises. With one functioning lung and fast approaching 80, Francis has a personal sense of urgency.

“At my age,” he told the Spanish daily newspaper, la Vanguardia. “I don’t have much to lose.”


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 12, 2015, 10:36:03 am
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/2/10/why-pope-francis-speech-will-get-us-legislators-squirming-in-their-seats.html
2/10/15
Pope Francis will have some US legislators ‘€˜squirming in their seats’

Pontiff’s speech likely to critique economic policies advocated by GOP-led Congress that have contributed to inequality

When Pope Francis becomes the first pope to address a joint session of Congress, in September, many Catholic theologians and activists expect that he will focus on rising global economic inequality rather than on the hot-button cultural issues that often dominate U.S. politics.

The pontiff continues to disappoint Catholic women pressing for equality in the church, reproductive rights and allowing birth control, and his recent endorsement of a Slovak referendum to ban marriage and adoption by same-sex couples has dismayed supporters of LGBT rights. But most papal observers don’t expect to see those issues addressed in Francis’ congressional speech. Instead, they predict that the pope will use his critique of the current global economic order to challenge his audience on the role of government in alleviating inequality as well as on immigration and climate change.

The central message of Francis’ papacy has been that “income and wealth inequality in our world is the source of social ills,” said Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of Network, a Catholic social justice lobbying group best known for its Nuns on the Bus campaigns challenging income inequality and pressing for immigration reform. “Until we remedy that, we won’t have any sort of real peace or good community.”

Francis’ view on the global economy, say Catholic theologians, is deeply rooted in Catholic social justice teaching that demands care for society’s most vulnerable to promote the common good. Francis’ critique of global capitalism, laid out in detail in his 2013 apostolic exhortation, “Evangelii Gaudium,” decries the “economy of exclusion.” That phrase, said Meghan Clark, an assistant professor of theology and religious studies in moral theology at St. John’s University in New York, is based on his belief that “we’re in a state in which when someone isn’t ‘useful,’ they simply don’t even exist.”

The pope also uses the phrase “throwaway culture” to describe how people, like consumer goods, are used and cast aside, said Clark. He has used the phrase to critique rampant consumerism, abortion and neglect of the elderly. If he addresses abortion on Capitol Hill, she said, it would likely be through such a lens.

The Rev. David Hollenbach, the university chair in human rights and international justice in the theology department at Boston College, expects Francis to highlight the fact that the United States is “an extraordinarily privileged country with an enormous amount of wealth, especially at the very top.” Hollenbach added that the pope will likely further emphasize that the United States “has a very important role to play in shaping international economic policy in ways that could work to alleviate and advance further the reduction of poverty worldwide.”

Out of 535 members of the current Congress, 164 are Catholic, and 81 of those are Republicans, according to the Pew Research Center. Catholic activists such as Campbell and John Gehring, Catholic program director at Faith in Public Life, a Democratic-leaning advocacy group, have been critical of Republican economic policies, particularly those of House Speaker John Boehner and Rep. Paul Ryan, both Catholics.

“The pope is not going to offer detailed policy proposals, but I would expect him to be unambiguous about the moral dimension and the reality that so many are left behind in our global economy,” said Gehring. “Speaker Boehner and the Koch brothers won’t find endorsement of their policies from this pope.”

Some conservative American Catholics have claimed that free market economic policy is supported by the Catholic concept of subsidiarity, which calls for decision-making at the lowest, most local level of government possible. But more liberal theologians say that rather than call for less government intervention, subsidiarity, as part of a broader, holistic Catholic social justice tradition, requires government intervention to alleviate inequality.

Subsidiarity, said Clark, does not mean “smaller government is better.” She argued that was “simply a misreading and a misdefinition of Catholic social teaching.” Instead, “the flourishing of all levels is the priority,” requiring the state to step in if a local community is unable or unwilling to promote economic justice, she said.

She dismissed conservative claims that Francis’ critique of capitalism is drawn exclusively from his experience in Argentina and that he therefore does not understand the American economy. “Pope Francis knows very well what capitalism does and doesn’t do without government interventions,” she said.

 

‘The pope is not going to offer detailed policy proposals, but I would expect him to be unambiguous about the moral dimension and the reality that so many are left behind in our global economy.’

The economist Jeffrey Sachs has argued that Francis’ message is “fundamentally subversive of prevailing attitudes in the corridors of American power, whether on Wall Street or in Washington.” He is the director of the United Nations Sustainable Development Solutions Network and of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. While Francis is in the U.S., he is expected to attend the U.N. summit on Sustainable Development Goals, which will address eliminating poverty and promoting environmental sustainability.

When the pope addresses Congress, said Gehring, “Plenty of politicians on both sides of the aisle will be squirming in their seats.”

But Francis does see politics as an “honorable vocation,” Gehring added. The pope will likely remind legislators that “public service is about serving the common good, not their own interests or party agendas.”

To some, though, it is anathema that the pope known for meeting the marginalized where they reside would make an appearance in a seat of global power. In The National Catholic Reporter, Michael Sean Winters, a Catholic commentator known for his liberal views on economic issues, wrote that he is “wary” of the pope’s visit. The “optics,” he argued, seem “all wrong, such a specifically political setting, and a powerful one too,” given that the pontiff typically visits “peripheries where Pope Francis is most comfortable and where he has repeatedly said he wants the church to be.”

But Campbell said she hopes the pope will use the occasion to remind the powerful that “governments have a responsibility to ensure that all of their citizens, all of their residents have all the basics they need to live in dignity.”

Francis, she said, “is very clear that the market is just as human as the rest of us and greed enters in. It’s the role of government to check greed,” through regulations covering areas such as banking, food safety, airline safety and other matters.

In the end, said Hollenbach, “Mr. Boehner may regret that he invited him.”


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 14, 2015, 08:19:01 pm
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/02/13/pope-francis-is-poised-to-change-catholicism-forever/
2/13/15
Pope Francis is poised to change Catholicism forever

ROME — Because he’s such a beguiling media personality, Pope Francis says and does lots of things that get spun as revolutionary but really aren’t. Saying Catholics don’t have to breed “like rabbits,” for instance, is irresistible as a sound-bite, but remarkably old-hat as official teaching.

Saturday, however, shapes up as the real deal, perhaps the most revolutionary day so far in Francis’ two-year run.

By creating 20 new cardinals from all around the world on that day, this first pope from the developing world is poised to change Catholicism forever — not in terms of the ideology of left v. right, perhaps, but definitely in terms of the geography of north v. south.

Equally consequential, this is the second consistory of Francis’ reign, meaning the ceremony in which new cardinals are inducted, and it cements impressions that Francis has overhauled the criteria for making these all-important picks.

It used to be that one rose through the clerical ranks and won a job that automatically came with a cardinal’s red hat, such as becoming the archbishop of Venice or Paris or Chicago. Today, however, Francis is skipping over those traditionally entitled venues to lift up eminences from smaller dioceses and essentially random places, literally all over the map.

The consequences of that shift are essentially unknowable, but seem destined to be profound. There’s almost nothing any pope ever does that’s as consequential to shaping culture in the Church as naming its senior leadership, and cardinals are the most important papal selections of all.

In one fell swoop, in other words, Pope Francis is challenging both the Western domination and the clericalism that have long been among the defining features of the College of Cardinals.

By now, Francis has acquired a reputation as more progressive than other recent popes, and so it’s natural for people to wonder if his picks for new cardinals are intended to drive the Church in a particular political direction.

In reality, it’s tough to find a clear ideological pattern in this group of 20, 15 of whom are under the age of 80 and thus eligible to vote for the next pope.

There are a couple of well-known moderates, including John Atcherley Dew of New Zealand and Ricardo Blázquez Pérez of Spain. Yet there are also conservatives, such as Berhaneyesus Demerew Souraphiel of Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, who signed a letter backing a constitutional ban on homosexual activity. He was also part of an inter-religious task force in Ethiopia that called homosexual behavior “the pinnacle of immorality.”

In all honesty, it’s unlikely Francis even knows much at the level of detail about the political outlooks or backgrounds of many of these prelates. When he announced their names in early January, it was clear he was unfamiliar with many of them, and some of the cardinals-to-be have already acknowledged that they’ve had almost no rapport with the pope prior to this appointment.

Bishop Soane Patita Paini Mafi of Tonga, for instance, told Crux that he’s met Francis exactly once before in his life. That was last fall during the Synod of Bishops, and then only to explain to him where Tonga is located.

Yet if it’s not clear what the impact of these appointments may be politically, it’s fairly obvious in terms of geographic representation.

With this crop, Francis is spreading the wealth in terms of cardinal’s red hats, bringing places into the mix never represented before while bypassing the traditional centers of power.

There are three places that have never had a cardinal that now will have one: Myanmar, Cape Verde, and the Pacific island of Tonga. Even within countries that are long accustomed to having cardinals, Francis has skipped the usual suspects in order to lift up long-neglected secondary venues, such as Agrigento and Ancona in Italy.


There’s only one Vatican official in the mix, French Archbishop Dominque Mamberti of the Apostolic Signatura, and among the new voting-age cardinals, only five are Europeans.

When Francis was elected in March 2013, Africa and Asia each had 9.6 percent of the vote. After Saturday, Africa will have 12 percent and Asia will have 11.2 percent, both of which are essentially all-time highs. Overall, the developing world will now make up almost 41 percent of the College of Cardinals, its highest share ever and significantly up from the 35 percent it represented just two years ago.

All this, of course, is nothing more than bringing the leadership of the Church slightly more in life with its demographic realities at the grassroots. Of the 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in the world today, two-thirds now live outside the West, a share projected to reach three-quarters by the end of this century.

Americans put out by the fact that Francis passed over the United States for the second time in a row in distributing new cardinals might ponder the fact that the 70 million Catholics in the country account for just 6 percent of the global Catholic population, but the 11 US cardinals are almost 9 percent of the college.

As of Saturday, in other words, Catholics everywhere will be living in a bit more of a global village, with a crop of new leaders taking the Church in unpredictable new directions. It may not come with a cool sound-bite, but it’s the stuff of which revolutions truly are made.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 17, 2015, 12:54:45 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/gay-catholics-find-a-new-tone-under-pope-francis-and-from-their-own-bishops/2015/02/16/1ddbba9e-b62a-11e4-bc30-a4e75503948a_story.html
Gay Catholics find a new tone under Pope Francis, and from their own bishops
2/16/15

ROME — On its 15 previous pilgrimages, the Catholic gay rights group New Ways Ministry drew maybe two-dozen people to visit holy sites in places like Assisi and Rome.

This year, the number of pilgrims unexpectedly doubled to 50.

Chalk it up to the so-called Francis Effect, where the pope’s open-arms acceptance is giving new hope to gay and lesbian Catholics who have felt alienated from their church for decades.


What’s been even more surprising is that both New Ways and a similar Catholic LGBT organization in Britain are finding support from the Catholic hierarchy in their efforts to meet the pontiff when they both visit the Vatican on Ash Wednesday (Feb. 18), the start of Lent, the period of penance and fasting preceding Easter.

For example, Archbishop Georg Ganswein, head of the papal household and the top aide to Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, responded to New Ways’ request for a papal meet-and-greet by reserving tickets for the group at Francis’ weekly public audience in St. Peter’s Square. It’s not a private meeting — which is tough for anyone to get — but it’s not nothing.

The pope’s ambassador to Washington forwarded a similar request to Rome. Even San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone — point man for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ battle against gay marriage — had written a letter to the Vatican on their behalf.

Last December, Cordileone had a constructive meeting with Frank DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways, and Sister Jeannine Gramick, a co-founder of New Ways and a longtime advocate for LGBT inclusion in the church. But they were still surprised by the archbishop’s willingness to write a letter for them.

Moreover, British Cardinal Vincent Nichols of Westminster sent a warm blessing to a group of LGBT Catholics from London who are joining up with New Ways in Rome. “Be assured of my prayers for each and every one of you,” Nichols wrote. “Have a wonderful pilgrimage. God bless you all.”

“I feel that the positive reaction that we have been getting from the hierarchy is due to the welcoming spirit of Pope Francis, who wants to welcome everyone,” said Gramick, speaking by phone from Assisi, the pilgrims’ last stop before heading to Rome.

“It’s very heartening to people who have felt alienated and rejected for so long, so we are feeling very hopeful.”

Gramick knows about rejection. In 1999, she was silenced by the Vatican for her “erroneous and dangerous” work with gay Catholics. She and the Catholic priest who co-founded New Ways Ministry in 1977 had “caused confusion among the Catholic people and have harmed the community of the church,” said the office headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who would later be elected Benedict XVI.

The ministry’s work was called “doctrinally unacceptable.” A year later, Gramick was barred from even speaking of the 11-year probe of her work, an order she refused. As late as 2010, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops referred to New Ways as having “no approval or recognition from the Catholic Church.”

Now, the group is hoping the Vatican will include them among the list of official pilgrimage groups read aloud at the audience. They’d also love to get close enough to the pope to shake his hand and maybe pose for a picture as he passes through the crowds.

If those sound like small steps, LGBT Catholics say they would, in fact, represent a huge leap forward considering how they were treated under the papacies of Benedict and St. John Paul II.

Francis, on the other hand, has clearly shifted the tone of the conversation, even if substantial changes remain elusive.

The shift began with one of Francis’ signature lines, from an in-flight press conference a few months after his election in 2013, when he was asked about whether a gay man could be a priest. “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” Francis famously said.

He even used the English word “gay,” something no pope had ever done, as most bishops prefer the more clinical term “homosexual.”

A few months later, Francis personally responded to an appeal from a gay Catholic group in Florence, telling them he enjoyed and appreciated their letter and assuring them of his blessing.

Then last month, it emerged Francis met with a transgender person from Spain who had written to the pope — with assistance from his bishop — after feeling rejected by his parish because of his sex-change operation. It was a moving moment for Diego Neria Lejarraga, and many LGBT Catholics.

“This man loves the whole world,” he told CNN, referring to Francis. “I think there’s not — in his head, in his way of thinking, discrimination against anyone. I’m speaking about him, not the institution.”

Francis also encouraged discussions of the church’s outreach to gay and lesbian Catholics at last October’s summit of top cardinals and bishops on family life — discussions that produced some remarkable, even unprecedented, praise from church leaders to the faith and witness of LGBT Catholics.

At the same time, Francis has frequently reiterated the church’s teaching that marriage is only between a man and a woman, and he has ripped what he calls the “ideological colonization of the family” by the West, language that refers in part to efforts to promote gay marriage and other issues in developing countries. He has also blasted “gender theory,” which for many is a suspect buzzword of secular culture.

Still, the New Ways leaders and many gay Catholics see real reasons for hope, and not just for themselves.

Since the start of his papacy, Francis has sought to shift the hierarchy’s focus away from what he said is an “obsession” with sexual issues and toward a greater concern for the poor and all those rejected by the church and society, a social justice priority that many gay Catholics also share.

In addition, LGBT Catholics see the shift toward open discussion of a range of topics as good for the church, and themselves.

“While LGBT Catholics hope for changes, they are realistic enough to know that Francis may not make those changes,” said DeBernardo. “But he is doing things that will help their spiritual lives.”

DeBernardo said many gay Catholics are not looking for approval from the church as much an acknowledgment of their existence and a willingness to “treat them as human beings.”

A photo-op or shout-out at Wednesday’s audience might be one such acknowledgement. “We take the long view,” Gramick said, “and every step is progress.”



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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 18, 2015, 10:39:30 am
http://news.yahoo.com/gay-catholic-group-gets-vip-treatment-vatican-first-150206499.html
Gay Catholic group gets VIP treatment at Vatican for first time
2/18/15

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A prominent American Catholic gay rights group was given VIP treatment for the first time at an audience with Pope Francis on Wednesday, a move members saw as a sign of change in the Roman Catholic Church.

"This is a sign of movement that's due to the Francis effect," said Sister Jeannine Gramick, co-founder of New Ways Ministry, which ministers to homosexual Catholics and promotes gay rights in the 1.2 billion-member Church.

Gramick and executive director Francis DeBernardo led a pilgrimage of 50 homosexual Catholics to the audience in St. Peter's Square.

They told Reuters in an interview afterwards that when the group came to Rome on Catholic pilgrimages during the papacies of Francis's predecessors John Paul and Benedict, "they just ignored us".

This time, a U.S. bishop and a top Vatican official backed their request and they sat in a front section with dignitaries and special Catholic groups. As the pope passed, they sang "All Are Welcome," a hymn symbolizing their desire for a more inclusive Church.

A list of participants released by the Vatican listed "a group of lay people accompanied by a sister" but did not mention that they were a gay rights organization.

"What this says is that there is movement in our Church, movement to welcome people from the outside closer to the inside," Gramick said in St. Peter's Square.

Several months after his election, Francis made his now-famous remark about how he could not judge gay people who are have good will and are seeking God.

But he so far shown no sign the Church will change its teaching that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.

Last October, bishops from around the world meeting in Rome to debate questions concerning family issued an interim report calling for greater acceptance of gays in the Church.

That passage was watered down in the final version of the report after conservative bishops complained. A second and final meeting on family issues is scheduled for October.

DeBernardo said Catholic gay and lesbian couples and other non-traditional families should be invited to the meeting, known as a synod, to speak to the bishops about their faith and their sexuality.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 19, 2015, 03:27:38 pm
http://www.foxsanantonio.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/coming-soon-pope-francis-plush-doll-10516.shtml#.VOZwlzKvW4N
2/17/15
Coming soon: Pope Francis plush doll

(http://www.foxsanantonio.com/news/features/top-stories/stories//images/popefranciscombo_10516.jpg)

(CNN) - Talk about seizing a holy opportunity!

American toy maker "Bleacher Creatures" is releasing a plush doll of Pope Francis.

The company is best known for similar stuffed toys resembling famous athletes, like Derek Jeter and Tom Brady.

They decided to take advantage of the pope's popularity ahead of his first U.S. visit later this year.

Bleacher Creatures will release the Pope Francis figures in July for about $20 a piece.

The company's CEO says he has reached out to the Vatican about the toy and he hopes to officially partner with the church.


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Post by: Edward Palamar on February 23, 2015, 09:30:30 am
Correction : N.B.

We are in day 895 of the 1,290 days (ending Maunday Thursday, March 24, 2016 A.D.).  The Three Days of Darkness will occur during that week unto the Sunday of the Judgment, May 8, 2016 A.D., which precedes the First Judgment Sunday of Pentecost, May 15, 2016 A.D.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 28, 2015, 05:01:13 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-attacks-throw-away-economic-globalization-142552599.html
2/28/15
Pope Francis attacks 'throw-away' economic globalization

ROME (Reuters) - Pope Francis launched a fresh attack on economic injustice on Saturday, condemning the "throw-away culture" of globalization and calling for new ways of thinking about poverty, welfare, employment and society.

In a speech to the association of Italian cooperative movements, he pointed to the "dizzying rise in unemployment" and the problems that existing welfare systems had in meeting healthcare needs.

For those living "at the existential margins" the current social and political system "seems fatally destined to suffocate hope and increase risks and threats," he said.

The Argentinian-born pope, who has often criticized orthodox market economics for fostering unfairness and inequality, said people were forced to work long hours, sometimes in the black economy, for a few hundred euros a month because they were seen as easily replaceable.

"'You don't like it? Go home then'. What can you do in a world that works like this? Because there's a queue of people looking for work. If you don't like it, someone else will," he said in an unscripted change from the text of his speech.

"It's hunger, hunger that makes us accept what they give us," he said.

His remarks have a special resonance in Italy, where unemployment, particularly among young people, is running at record levels after years of economic recession.

The cooperative movement in Italy, whose roots go back to 19th century workers' associations, have long had close ties to the Catholic Church, with credit services, agricultural and building co-ops forming an important part of the overall economy.

Pope Francis said they could help find new models and methods that could be an alternative model to the "throw-away culture created by the powers that control the economic and financial policies of the globalized world."

Perhaps mindful of a wide-ranging corruption scandal linked to some cooperatives in Rome last year, he attacked those who "prostitute the cooperative name".

But his overall message was that economic rationale had to be secondary to the wider needs of human society.

"When money becomes an idol, it commands the choices of man. And thus it ruins man and condemns him. It makes him a slave," he said.

"Money at the service of life can be managed in the right way by cooperatives, on condition that it is a real cooperative where capital does not have command over men but men over capital," he said.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Edward Palamar on March 02, 2015, 10:31:52 am
Or better still, on March 25, 2016 A.D. beginning at 3:00PM.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 03, 2015, 04:41:14 am
Or better still, on March 25, 2016 A.D. beginning at 3:00PM.

Does your posts have any meaning to them? If not im just gonna get rid of them


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 04, 2015, 09:41:34 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=31322
IGNORING THE VATICAN BILLIONS, POPE FRANCIS AGAIN CALLS FOR GLOBAL WEALTH DISTRIBUTION
3/2/15

THE VATICAN HAS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WEALTH AND TREASURE THAT THE POPE NEVER SEEMS TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:4,5 (KJV)

The Vatican’s treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment.”

So image the level of gall it takes for this Pope to refer to money as “the Devil’s dung” when the corporation of which he is currently the head of hoards untold billions of it in stockpiles in Switzerland and around the world. Certainly if he were sincere, don’t you think he would start by immediately giving away a few billion just to show the rules he wants others to follow also applies to the Vatican as well? Evidentially, he does not.

Speaking in Rome, Pope Francis condemned what he called a “throwaway culture created by the powers that control the economic and financial policies of the globalized world.”

But he proposed a solution of sorts, in the form of economic cooperatives that would help spread wealth equally: “Money at the service of life can be managed in the right way by cooperatives, on condition that it is a real cooperative where capital does not have command over men but men over capital.”

He quoted his namesake, St Francis of Assisi, in calling money the “devil’s dung,” according to Vatican Radio. “When money becomes an idol, it controls man’s choices,” he added. “It makes him a slave.”

This is far from the first time the Pope has addressed the condition of the working class in the globalized world; in a speech at the U.N. last year, the Pope asked world leaders to redistribute wealth.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 05, 2015, 05:08:40 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/poll-finds-pope-francis-popularity-us-rising-222236876.html
Poll finds Pope Francis' popularity in US rising
3/5/15

Washington (AFP) - Pope Francis' popularity among Americans is rising, six months before his first papal visit to the United States, a public opinion poll released Thursday suggests.

Ninety percent of Catholic Americans surveyed by the Pew Research Center said they thought well of the 78-year-old pope -- and that includes 57 percent who held a "very favorable" view of him.

Among Americans of all faiths, 70 percent held a favorable view of the Argentinian-born pope -- the highest level since his papacy began in March 2013.

That compares to 57 percent when he became pope, 58 percent in September 2013 and 66 percent in February last year, Pew recalled.


Only 15 percent of Americans said they didn't like him, while another 15 percent claimed they could not rate him -- way down from 29 percent in March 2013.

"Among most US religious groups, Francis’ favorability rating has risen as more people have gained familiarity with the pope and become able to express an opinion about him," Pew said.

Many regard Pope Francis as a welcome change from his predecessor Benedict XVI, even as American bishops maintain a hard line against abortion and gay marriage.

Pope Francis is to visit the United States in late September to attend the World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

He is also expected to address the UN General Assembly in New York and become the first pope ever to speak to the US Congress in Washington.

Pew said it interviewed 1,504 American adults on landlines and cellphones on February 18-22 for its survey, which it posted at www.pewforum.org



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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 08, 2015, 09:42:04 pm
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/03/07/whats-really-miraculous-about-pope-francis/
3/7/15
What’s really miraculous about Pope Francis?
PLUS: The pope and the movements, and remembering Cardinal Egan


This week I was in New York for publicity on the launch of my new book, “The Francis Miracle: Inside the Transformation of the Pope and the Church.” Doing the media rounds, most questions I drew were fairly predictable, beginning with the classic American curiosity about whether this pope is a liberal or a conservative.

I was a bit surprised, however, that few interviewers popped a question that seems fairly obvious given the book’s title. It is: “What do you mean, ‘miracle’?”

For Catholics who harbor theological or political grievances with Francis, calling him a “miracle” can seem terribly partisan. Even those with no bone to pick with Francis may find it premature, since he’s been in office only two years and it’s a bit early to be drawing such dramatic conclusions.

Both are perfectly reasonable reactions, but neither actually captures what I mean by a “Francis miracle.”

Instead, the point is that there’s something about this pope that can’t be adequately accounted for in terms of purely human calculations, something that requires a supernatural or mystical point of reference in order to be properly understood.

In a nutshell, the enigma is this: What accounts for the sharp contrast between Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in Argentina and Pope Francis today?

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For sure, that contrast is not absolute. During his 15 years as the archbishop of Buenos Aires, Bergoglio was committed to the poor, strove to re-light the Church’s missionary fires, and lived a life of gospel simplicity. All are traits he’s carried into the papacy.

Yet there clearly is a difference in style and personality, because the Bergoglio of Argentina was nobody’s idea of a pop culture sensation.

The cardinal rarely appeared in public and almost never gave formal interviews. When he did have to take the public stage, friends would call him “shy” and critics “boring.” Nobody came away saying he turned the world on with his smile. In fact, it’s hard to find a photo of a beaming Bergoglio taken before his election two years ago.

Neither was he the spontaneous, shoot-from-the-hip sound bite machine the world sees today. He came off as more controlled, more circumspect, always preferring to operate quietly behind the scenes rather than in public view.

When I asked her in April 2013 what she made of the change, Maria Elena Bergoglio, the pope’s only surviving sibling, said jokingly: “I don’t recognize this guy!”


The question therefore presents itself: What happened?

By nature I’m not inclined to look for supernatural explanations of things, and I’m often skeptical when they’re floated. Yet in keeping with the Sherlock Holmes dictum that after you’ve eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth, this seems to me one case in which a mystical account is required.

To put the point differently, Francis himself appears convinced there’s a mystical subtext to the kind of pope he’s become.

Here’s an insider account I provide in the book that makes the point.

“Over Christmas 2013, a veteran Latin American cardinal who has known Bergoglio for decades made an appointment to see his old friend in the Santa Marta, the hotel on Vatican grounds where the pope has chosen to reside. (He lives in Room 201, a slightly larger room than the one he stayed in during the conclave that elected him, giving the pontiff enough space to receive guests comfortably).

“The cardinal, who didn’t wish to be named, said he looked at Francis and, referring to the exuberance and spontaneity that are now hallmarks of his public image, said to him point-blank: ‘You are not the same man I knew in Buenos Aires. What’s happened to you’?

“According to the cardinal, this was Francis’ answer:

“ ‘On the night of my election, I had an experience of the closeness of God that gave me a great sense of interior freedom and peace,’ the cardinal quoted the pope as saying, ‘and that sense has never left me.’ ”

In other words, Francis believes he experienced a miracle.


There’s nothing new, of course, about popes seeing a touch of the divine in the things that happen to them.

Pope St. John Paul II was profoundly convinced that on May 13, 1981, the Virgin Mary changed the flight path of a bullet to preserve his life and his papacy. That was the day of the assassination attempt in St. Peter’s Square, and it also was the feast day of Our Lady of Fatima. The pope believed Mary was the reason he survived.

Among other things, that conviction explains why it was always implausible that John Paul would resign, no matter how frail he grew near the end. He believed the Virgin wanted him to continue, and he was never going to wake up one morning and just call it quits.

In similar fashion, it seems unlikely Francis today will heed calls to rein in his free-wheeling public persona in any significant way, given that it’s not the product of a PR war room, but rather what he believes he experienced as an act of God.

Whether his papacy is truly “miraculous,” in the sense of boosting the long-term fortunes of Catholicism in some world-changing way, remains to be seen. There’s no doubt, however, that as Francis views it, his is a mission with a miracle at its core.

Read the introduction to John’s book here.

The pope and the movements

On the subject of whether Francis is a liberal or a conservative, the usual take in the media is that he’s a progressive and thus lukewarm at best, openly hostile at worst, to more conservative forces in the Church.

One such force that’s often perceived as fairly conservative is what Catholics refer to as “the movements,” meaning largely lay-led groups, founded during the 20th century, that came to full flower under the papacy of John Paul II. Major players in that world include Opus Dei, the Neocatechumenate, Communion and Liberation, the Focolare, Schoenstatt, Sant’Egidio, L’Arche, and so on.

Before proceeding, two stipulations are in order.

First, technically not all of these groups are “movements.” Opus Dei, for instance, is a personal prelature under Church law, which is something akin to a non-territorial diocese led by a figure called a prelate, who has the responsibilities of a bishop. In popular parlance, however, they tend to get lumped into the same category.

Second, it’s flat-out false to say they’re all “conservative.” Some, such as Sant’Egidio, lean politically a bit more to the left. Others, such as Focolare, contain a little bit of everything. Still others, such as L’Arche, are impossible to pigeonhole in any ideological sense. Some even have a different political hue depending on what part of the world we’re talking about.

That said, these outfits are generally seen in the Catholic street as leaning collectively to the right, if for no other reason than that they generally take official Church teaching for granted rather than agitating for change.

Given that background, it’s striking that Pope Francis this week showed some love for three of the better-known movements: Focolare, the Neocatechumenate, and Communion and Liberation.


Focolare was founded during World War II by an Italian lay woman named Chiara Lubich and is committed to the ideal of “unity,” especially among Christians and the various religions. Today it’s present in 194 countries and claims more than 100,000 followers.

On Wednesday, Francis held an audience with 60 bishops from 35 countries who describe themselves as “friends” of the Focolare movement. They met in Rome on the theme of the Eucharist, and Francis reminded them that the presence of Christ in the sacrament of Communion, not their own personalities or agenda, is the heart of the matter.

“The bishop is the principle of unity in the Church, but this doesn’t happen without the Eucharist,” he said. “The bishop doesn’t gather people around his own persona, or his own ideas, but around Christ who is present in the Word and in the sacrament of his own flesh and blood.”

Francis offered a special message of solidarity for bishops who came from conflict zones in Syria, Iraq, and Ukraine.

And then, speaking to the Focolare generally, the pontiff said he wanted to “encourage you to carry forward your commitment in favor of the ecumenical path and inter-religious dialogue,” and also thanked the Focolare for “the contribution you’ve made to greater communion among the various ecclesial movements.”

On Friday, he met with members of the Neocatechumenal Way, a program of Christian formation founded in Spain in 1964 by two Catholic laity, Kiko Argüello and Carmen Hernández.

It’s known for a high-octane Latin spirituality and a deep missionary drive, and has been controversial both among some Catholic liberals for its deep papal loyalty and some conservatives for its allegedly heterodox liturgical and doctrinal traditions.

Among members, the movement is often known simply as “the Way.”

In a classic Francis touch, the pontiff urged the Neocatechumenate to reach out to the peripheries of the world.

“How much solitude, how much suffering, how much distance from God is in all the peripheries of Europe and America, and in so many cities of Asia!” he said. “How much need the human person has today, in every latitude, to hear that God loves him, and that love is possible!”

Francis then heaped praise upon the movement.

“The Neocatechumenal Way is a ‘true gift of providence to the Church of our times,’ as my predecessors affirmed,” Francis said.

“To see all this is a consolation,” he added, “because it confirms the Spirit of God is alive and working in his Church, even today, and he’s responding to the needs of the modern person.”

Finally, on Saturday Pope Francis met with more than 80,000 members of Communion and Liberation from 47 countries, gathered in Rome to mark the 10th anniversary of the death of their founder, Italian Rev. Luigi Giussani, and the 60th anniversary of the launch of the movement.

The ciellini, as members are called, draw on the works of Giussani to offer a vision of Christian education rooted in a personal and immediate encounter with Christ. Its historical base is in Milan, where it was sometimes seen as an alternative to the center-left Catholic ethos projected by Cardinals Carlo Maria Martini and Dionigi Tettamanzi.

It has a different political vibe elsewhere. In Brazil, for instance, 50,000 members of the progressive Sin Tierra (“Without Land”) movement, which advocates for landless workers, requested to be admitted in 2008.

Communion and Liberation brought friends from other faiths with them to the encounter with the pope, including the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, as well as representatives of the Orthodox and Muslim traditions.

Once again, Francis was fulsome in his praise.


Giussani’s thought, he said, is “profoundly human and reaches into the deepest yearnings of the human person,” adding that reading Giussani’s books and articles did much good “for me and for my priestly life.”

Francis joined Pope Benedict XVI in referring to Communion and Liberation as “an impulse derived from the Holy Spirit.”

The inadequacy of seeing Francis through the prism of left vs. right should already be clear, but if it weren’t, the specter of this allegedly “liberal” pope cozying up to three supposedly “conservative” movements, all in the span of a few days, ought to drive the point home.

On the other hand, if we begin by seeing Francis in the terms most natural to him, as a missionary and pastor, then his enthusiasm for outfits that encourage laity to see themselves as missionaries in their own walks of life – getting out of the sacristy and into the street, to use a classic Francis expression – makes all the sense in the world.



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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 10, 2015, 09:56:48 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/cardinal-indicates-themes-popes-climate-change-document-215221516.html;_ylt=A0SO80ECrf9UopsAMUpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcmRqcnR1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDU01FOTA2XzEEc2VjA3Nj
Cardinal indicates themes of pope's climate change document
3/10/15

A Vatican official who helped write a first draft of Pope Francis' upcoming encyclical on climate change acknowledged disagreement over the causes of global warming but said "what is not contested is that our planet is getting warmer" and Christians have a duty rooted in "ancient biblical teaching" to address the problem.

In a speech last week in Ireland, Cardinal Peter Turkson, head of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, said Francis isn't making a political call to arms or an attempt at "greening the church." The pope instead is emphasizing Roman Catholic social teaching that links protecting life with fighting global inequality and preserving the environment, Turkson said.

"For the Christian, to care for God's ongoing work of creation is a duty, irrespective of the causes of climate change," Turkson said, in his address last Thursday at St. Patrick's Pontifical University in Maynooth, Ireland. "To care for creation, to develop and live an integral ecology as the basis for development and peace in the world is a fundamental Christian duty."

The highly anticipated encyclical is due to be released this June or July, and only the pope will determine what the final document will include. Still, Turkson's central role in drafting the statement is prompting many Vatican observers to consider the speech a preview of the encyclical.

Austen Ivereigh, author of the book "The Great Reformer" on Francis, called Turkson's talk a "curtain raiser" for the pope's eventual statement. Michael Peppard, a Fordham University theologian who has been closely watching Francis' statements on the environment, called the speech "a reliable indicator" of the direction Francis will take.

"Cardinal Turkson's talk, given at a pontifical seminary in Ireland, was for the whole church," said Bill Patenaude, a lecturer on Catholic teaching and the environment at Providence College in Rhode Island, and author of the blog Catholicecology.net. Patenaude said Turkson's council has been especially concerned about preparing the church and the public for the encyclical so that it can be properly interpreted, and this speech should be viewed as part of that preparation.

The text of the cardinal's address was posted at the website for the Irish bishops' conference. Citing the Book of Genesis, Turkson said Catholics "are called to protect and care for both creation and the human person."

"Clearly this is not some narrow agenda for the greening (of) the church or the world. It is a vision of care and protection that embraces the human person and the human environment in all possible dimensions," the cardinal said.

Turkson said the pope was "compelled by the scientific evidence for climate change," and the cardinal pointed to the synthesis report of the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. That study, released last November, found climate change is happening and it's almost entirely man's fault. Turkson acknowledged disagreement over the panel's findings but said "for Pope Francis, however, that is not the point." The cardinal said Francis was concerned with affirming "a truth revealed" in Genesis 2:15 on the sacred duty to till and keep the earth.

"He is not making some political comment about the relative merits of capitalism and communism. He is rather restating ancient biblical teaching," Turkson said. "He is pointing to the ominous signs in nature that suggest that humanity may now have tilled too much and kept too little."

Turkson argued that regulation alone won't stop global warming. He said a "changing of human hearts" is required and that religious teachings can "help to orient and integrate us as humans within the wider universe, to identify what is most important to us, what we revere, sustain and protect as sacred."


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Post by: Mark on March 11, 2015, 08:17:42 am
Pope Francis accepts he may be assassinated

Asks God to make it not hurt since he's 'a real wimp'
Published: 19 hours ago

(DAILYMAIL) — Pope Francis has said he has accepted that he may be assassinated- but has asked God to make sure it doesn’t hurt too much as he is ‘a real wimp’.

Francis said that if fanatics want to kill him, it is ‘God’s will’.

He said: ‘Life is in God’s hands. I have said to the Lord, “You take care of me. But if it is your will that I die or something happens to me, I ask you only one favour: that it doesn’t hurt. Because I am a real wimp when it comes to physical pain.”‘


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/pope-francis-accepts-he-may-be-assassinated/#mC4C8FWRuoDM2zok.99


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 13, 2015, 05:24:24 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-declares-jubilee-celebrate-vatican-ii-reforms-165757697.html
Pope declares jubilee in powerful reform signal
3/13/15

Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis on Friday marked the second anniversary of his election by declaring a jubilee year that will be interpreted as a powerful signal of his commitment to reforming the Church.

The extraordinary holy year, dedicated to the theme of mercy, has been called to celebrate the 50th anniversary of a groundbreaking Vatican council that transformed how the Church related to the modern world, most notably ending the obligation for religious services to be conducted in Latin.

The jubilee year will begin on December 8 and run until November 20, 2016. December 8 is one of the holiest dates in the Catholic calender as the Feast of the Immaculate Conception and is also the date on which the Vatican II council closed in 1965.

Speaking in St Peter's cathedral, the 78-year-old pontiff described the year's start date as being "of great significance, for it impels the Church to continue the work begun at Vatican II."

Vatican II is considered to be one of the defining moments in the history of the Catholic church -- the point at which the clerical hierarchy accepted that some centuries-old ways of thinking and acting had to be jettisoned if the institution was to remain relevant as the sixties began to swing.

- A divided Church -

Fifty years later, the Church is facing a similar set of dilemmas and is beset by divisions over how to respond to them and close the gap between what it officially preaches and how many of its followers actually live their lives in the early 21st Century.

Deep divisions over how the Church should relate to homosexual, divorced and co-habiting believers were aired at an inconclusive, sometimes rancorous, synod of bishops in October-November 2014. They will be revisited when senior clerics re-assemble in Vatican City this October.

Francis, the first pope to hail from Latin America, is regarded by most of the world as having been a huge success in his two years at the helm of the Church.

His easy charm, decisive approach to issues such as paedophile priests and his pleas for a more merciful and worldly approach on questions like homosexuality and divorce have endeared him to a much broader public than his conservative, dour predecessor Benedict XVI could reach.

But he has not endeared himself to everyone within the Church.

The forces of passive resistance and inertia are holding up his efforts to reform the Vatican's bureaucracy and his tendency to speak his mind has caused concern amongst conservative theologians.

They fear his populism may provide cover for an edging away from long-established doctrinal stances, especially on the issues at the centre of the synods on the family.

- A pope in a hurry -

The decision to announce the jubilee may reflect Francis's apparent belief that he is not destined to spend a long time in St Peter's.

"I have a feeling my pontificate will be brief," he told Mexico's Televisa channel in an interview to mark his anniversary. "Four or five years, I don't know. Two years have already gone by.

"It is a vague feeling I have that the Lord chose me for a short mission. I am always open to that possibility."

Francis has hinted in the past that he could emulate his predecessor Benedict XVI, who became the first pope to resign in seven centuries when he stepped down in February 2013.

Intriguingly, when asked if he liked being pope, Francis replied: "I don't not like it," before expanding on his dislike of travelling and his fondness for the comforts and familiarity of home.

Despite that, Francis insisted he did not feel lonely in the top job, although he did confess to sometimes longing for the anonymity enjoyed as the parish priest he once was.

One thing he would really like is to be able to go out of the Vatican one day without being recognised and "go and eat a pizza," he said.


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Post by: Mark on March 14, 2015, 06:31:45 am
Pope Francis predicts his tenure will be 'brief'

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Hearing confessions to mark his second anniversary as head of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis offered a confession of his own Friday: He doubts he'll be pontiff for long.

"I have the feeling that my pontificate will be brief, four or five years; I do not know, even two or three," the 78-year-old Francis said during an interview with Mexican broadcaster Televisa.

"Two have already passed. It's a somewhat vague sensation," he said, according to a Vatican translation from Spanish. "I feel that the Lord has placed me here for a short time, and nothing more."

He compared the feeling to "a gambler who convinces himself he will lose so he won't be disappointed. And if he wins, he's happy."

Does he like being pope?

"I do not mind!" he replied. But Francis said he'd like the job better if he had a little more freedom and anonymity, particularly for one purpose.

"The only thing I would like is to go out one day, without being recognized, and go to a pizzeria for a pizza," he told the interviewer.

Francis had previously said he thought his reign would be only two to three years. He pointed to Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI's resignation in 2013.

"I share the idea of what Benedict did," he said. "In general, I think what Benedict so courageously did was to open the door to the popes emeritus. Benedict should not be considered an exception, but an institution."

He does not, however, think there should be an age — 80, for instance — at which popes should be forced to retire.

The Argentine-born Francis remains enormously popular worldwide. A recent poll showed that 90% of American Catholics approve of him, as well as 70% of all Americans, regardless of their religion or beliefs.

Two years in, Francis sets tone for change in church

"He's changed my faith," Rossella Devivo, who described herself as a lapsed Catholic, told CBS News. "I had absolutely no intention of entering a church, but since he's been pope, I have grown more religious. This is absolutely incredible for me. He has brought me closer to the church."

At Mass Friday, Francis announced a special Jubilee Year, only the 27th such declaration in church history. Starting Dec. 8, the church will focus on forgiveness and mercy.

St. John Paul II declared the last Holy Year in 2000 to mark the start of the third millennium.

http://www.kare11.com/story/news/world/2015/03/13/pope-francis-papacy-anniversary-pizza/70277854/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 14, 2015, 02:18:57 pm
This is just my opinion - but I believe he's not only the last Pope, but also a short stop gap...until the AC gets revealed.

With that being said - not defending the other Popes or anything, but despite his popularity, he like Obama has angered alot of people.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 20, 2015, 02:48:14 pm
Pope set to dine with gay and transgender inmates at a prison in Italy
3/20/15
http://www.thejournal.ie/pope-gay-transgender-inmates-prison-italy-centre-giuseppe-2004174-Mar2015/

POPE FRANCIS IS set to dine with inmates at a prison in Naples, Italy when he visits tomorrow.

Some of these will reportedly be coming from a ward housing gay and transgender inmates, some of whom are infected with HIV.

It has been reported by Religion News that the visit had not initially been on the Pope’s schedule but that he had specifically requested it take place.

The lunch will involve 90 inmates who were selected from a lottery of around 1,900 according to the Vatican Insider website.

After the meal the Pontiff intends to meet with each of the inmates individually.

During his time in the Vatican Pope Francis has previously reached out to the prison population. Last year he washed and kissed the feet of a number of prisoners at a youth offenders unit in Rome.

Two of the prisoners were Muslims and two others were female.

He has also previously stated that he does not believe that any crime deserves the death penalty.

Pope Francis has also made comments welcomed by the LGBT community since he appointment, including his comment of ‘who am I to judge?’ on board of a FLIGHTfrom Brazil in 2013.

He has previously privately met with a transgender man from Spain in the Vatican who had written to him about the rejection he was experiencing in his home parish.

However, he has also previously expressed his opposition to same-sex marriage.


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Post by: Boldhunter on March 23, 2015, 10:20:49 pm
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6920624


Pope Francis Credited With Performing 'Miracle' As St. Gennaro's Blood Liquifies

The Huffington Post Posted: 03/22/15 11:49 PM ET Updated: 03/23/15 09:59 AM ET

Pope Francis is being credited with a miracle -- or at least a "half miracle" -- after St. Gennaro's blood liquified in his presence in Naples on Saturday.

The saint's blood is usually dry inside of its sealed glass ampoule. However, after the pope kissed the relic, it began to turn to liquid.

“It is the sign that St. Gennaro loves Pope Francis: half of the blood turned to liquid," Cardinal Crescenzo Sepe, archbishop of Naples, told the cheering crowd, according to Vatican Insider.

“If only half of it liquefied that means we still have work to do; we have to do better," the pontiff replied. "We have only half of the saint’s love.”

The website reports that the blood continued to liquefy until the entire contents of the ampoule had turned to liquid, causing some in the crowd to weep. (More)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 28, 2015, 06:16:55 am
Pope Francis To Visit White House

In addition to his address to Congress, Pope Francis will be visiting the White House during his visit to the United States this September, making him the third Pope in history to stand in the Oval Office.

In a statement released Thursday, the White House announced that President Obama and the First Lady will be hosting the Roman Pontiff to discuss issues of mutual concern, including "caring for the marginalized and the poor; advancing economic opportunity for all; serving as good stewards of the environment; protecting religious minorities and promoting religious freedom around the world; and welcoming and integrating immigrants and refugees into our communities."

The statement also said that President Obama "looks forward to continuing this conversation with the Holy Father during his first visit to the United States as pope."

Though the statement gives off the impression that both the Holy Father and Obama dance to the same beat, the appearance couldn't be further from the truth. When Pope Francis served host to President Obama at the Vatican in March last year, the Obama administration issued a similar statement, saying the meeting mostly consisted of talks about social justice and income inequality while the Vatican sang an entirely different tune.

According to a Vatican press release, Pope Francis raised several "questions of particular relevance for the [Catholic] Church" in the United States, which included "the exercise of the rights to religious freedom, life, and conscientious objection."

The meeting in March also concluded with Pope Francis handing President Obama a copy of his Apostolic Exhortation  Evangelii Gaudium ("The Joy of the Gospel"), which contained several passages condemning abortion as evil and criticized public officials for presenting the issue as "ideological, obscurantist, and conservative."

"This defense of unborn life is closely linked to the defense of each and every other human right," Pope Francis wrote. "It involves the conviction that a human being is always sacred and inviolable, in any situation and at every stage of development."

Pope John Paul II planted the flag as the first Roman Pontiff to be greeted at the White House in 1979 under President Carter, followed by Pope Benedict XVI in 2008 under George W. Bush. Pope Francis will be the third in history. Virtually every President since Eisenhower has met with the Pope at least once.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/pope-francis-visit-white-house


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on April 05, 2015, 06:28:18 pm
Pope Francis and the new Rome

One Saturday last month, Pope Francis celebrated Mass at Ognissanti (All Saints’) Church in one of Rome’s working-class neighbourhoods. Little known to tourists or art historians, Ognissanti was the site of a momentous event in the modern history of the Catholic Church: Exactly 50 years earlier, Pope Paul VI had gone there to celebrate the first papal mass in Italian rather than in the traditional Latin.

In marking that anniversary, Pope Francis made plain his view of the vernacular Mass, one of the most visible changes ushered in by the Second Vatican Council (1962-65). The practice still pains Catholic traditionalists who mourn the loss of churchwide unity that came with a common language.

Allowing Catholics to pray in their local languages “was truly a courageous act by the church to draw closer to the people of God,” Pope Francis told a crowd gathered outside. “This is important for us, to follow the Mass this way. And there is no going back … Whoever goes back is mistaken.”

In his two years in office, the pontiff has drawn attention for his unconventional gestures — such as personally welcoming homeless people to the Sistine Chapel last month — but those gestures matter most as signs of the radical new direction in which he seeks to lead the Catholic Church: toward his vision of the promise of Vatican II. Both the acclaim and the alarm that Francis has generated as pope have been responses to his role in the long struggle over the council’s legacy.

For a half century, ordinary Catholics and their leaders have debated, often passionately, whether the changes that followed the council went too far or not far enough. Pope Francis’ immediate predecessors, John Paul II and Benedict XVI, devoted much of their pontificates to correcting what they deemed unjustified deviations from tradition in the name of Vatican II.

Now Pope Francis has effectively reversed course. In word and deed, he has argued that the church’s troubles reflect not recklessness but timidity in interpreting and applying the principles of Vatican II, especially the council’s call for the church to open itself to the modern world. “It usually takes half a century for a council to begin to sink in,” says Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York. “Now we have a pope who says, ‘Look, we just had five decades of internal debates and controversy about the meaning of Vatican II, and now it’s time to do it.’ And that’s what he’s doing.”

The pope’s vision of Vatican II has translated into a dramatic shift in priorities, with an emphasis on social justice over controversial moral teachings and a friendlier approach to secular culture. This has alarmed those who fear an erosion of the church’s role as the foremost bulwark of traditional morality in the West, particularly amid heated battles over same-sex marriage, bioethics, abortion and religious freedom.

Pope John XXIII convened the Second Vatican Council with the avowed intention of bringing “fresh air” into the church. In his opening speech, he called on the church to “make use of the medicine of mercy rather than that of severity” or “condemnations.” More than 2,500 bishops from around the world attended the four sessions, which produced 16 official documents bringing up to date the church’s teachings on, among other things, scripture, worship, religious freedom and relations with non-Catholics.

The changes were dramatic. Rome absolved the Jewish people of collective guilt for the death of Jesus Christ and declared that God’s covenant with them had never been abrogated. Catholics began to hear Orthodox and Protestants described as “separated brethren,” while church leaders spoke of a “fellowship” with non-Christians.

The years following the council brought cultural change to the church, blurring many aspects of Catholic identity. Women ceased to wear veils in church, and Catholics started eating meat on Fridays. Nuns moved from convents to apartments. Interfaith marriage ceased to be taboo. Priests moved from hearing confessions in darkened booths to more conversational settings.

At the same time, the church in Europe and the US saw a steep decline in attendance at Mass and in adherence to traditional morality, with the sexual revolution and the spread of contraception and legalised abortion. A half-century after the council, the population of nuns in the US has declined by more than 70 per cent and the annual number of priestly ordinations by 50 per cent

Popes John Paul and Benedict, who had played key roles at Vatican II, concluded that the church had gone too fast and too far in innovations ranging from the abandonment of religious garb to the acceptance of liberal ideas on sexual morality. In response, they issued the first universal catechism since the 16th century, systematically laying out the church’s fundamental teachings; they censured dissent among theologians and within religious orders; and they reversed moves to expand the role of bishops in the development of church teaching and practice.

They also emphasised the differences between Catholicism and other religions and made it easier to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass. Their efforts were intended to reaffirm the church’s distinctive identity amid what Benedict later called the “spiritual desertification” of secularism.

Pope Francis, the first pontiff to have received holy orders after Vatican II, is very much a son of the council. It took place during his years of study in the Jesuit order in Argentina — he was ordained just four years after it ended — and he enthusiastically followed the proceedings in Rome. On the eve of the 2013 conclave that elected him pope, then-Cardinal Bergoglio identified the main threat to the church: not the encroachment of secular culture but a tendency among Catholics themselves, especially within church institutions, to retreat into ghettos of their own making. The risk, he said, was of “theological narcissism.”

As pontiff, Francis has used the moral authority of his office to push a sharply different agenda, demanding a “poor church for the poor” and excoriating free-market ideologies. He has said that the church should show “mercy” toward divorced and remarried Catholics (whom church law forbids from receiving Communion), flouted liturgical rules to wash the feet of Muslims and women, and received a transsexual at the Vatican.

“This pope is very much a man of [Vatican II],” says Archbishop Blaise J. Cupich of Chicago. “He has an understanding of how the church ought to be positioned at the service of the world, in which we don’t impose but we propose.”

From the moment he was elected, Pope Francis’ folksy manner and disregard for protocol in matters of dress and decorum have reflected his vision of a papacy closer to the people. His public persona has excited curiosity and goodwill, but some believe that his shift in priorities has removed pressure on secular society and political leaders over contentious issues of sexual and medical ethics.

Pope Francis’ understanding of Vatican II was deeply shaped by his background as a Jesuit and an Argentine, according to Austen Ivereigh, author of a recent papal biography, “The Great Reformer.” The Jesuits viewed themselves as occupying the front lines in the application of the council’s teachings, with a particular emphasis on social justice and peace. A 1968 assembly of Latin American bishops adopted a program based on Vatican II that declared a “preferential option for the poor.”

This emphasis has been clear in the pontiff’s public statements. “How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?” Pope Francis wrote in 2013. Days later, President Barack Obama cited the passage in a speech on income inequality.

According to Father H. Miguel Yañez, a Jesuit confrère of the pope and a fellow Argentine, Pope Francis takes Vatican II “for granted.” “Instead of arguing about the past … he proposes a new kind of evangelisation that is so radical that we forget about different interpretations and move on,” the Rev. Yañez says. “Francis is more concerned with having a dialogue with the contemporary world … than he is concerned with certain points of tradition that mattered to Benedict.”

The pope’s relative silence on certain widely contested moral teachings has left some worried that these questions are now of secondary importance. The pope roused concerns in summer 2013, for instance, when he told the editor of a Jesuit journal that “we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods.”

Six months into his papacy, Pope Francis had not yet made a major statement on abortion, not even during his homily at a special Vatican Mass with anti-abortion activists. “I’m a little bit disappointed in Pope Francis that he hasn’t … said much about unborn children, about abortion,” said Rhode Island Bishop Thomas J. Tobin in September 2013. “Many people have noticed that.”

Church leaders have privately complained that the pope’s oft-quoted comment about gay priests — “Who am I to judge?”—has made their job more difficult in upholding church teachings. In November 2013, Catholic legislators in Illinois cited those words to explain their support for a same-sex marriage bill.

Another source of tension is the pope’s approach to church governance, particularly the balance of power between the pope and the world’s bishops. In the late 19th century, the First Vatican Council affirmed the primacy of papal authority, even declaring the pope infallible on select issues. Vatican II aimed to strike a new balance by teaching that the pope shares authority with the bishops under a principle of “collegiality.”

Popes John Paul and Benedict were wary of collective action by bishops, especially on key church teachings. Pope Francis, by contrast, has called for the devolution of more power. “Excessive centralisation,” he has written, “rather than proving helpful, complicates the Church’s life and her missionary outreach.”

Just weeks into his pontificate, Pope Francis established a new body consisting of eight (later nine) cardinals, including representatives from each continent, to advise him on major issues of church governance, including a sweeping reform of the Vatican bureaucracy. “The pope is effectively telling [the bishops and cardinals], ‘I need to hear your voices, not just the voices of the people who live in Rome,’ ” says Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.

The most ambitious — and disruptive — way in which Pope Francis has promoted collegiality is through the Synod of Bishops, a representative body established by Pope Paul VI in the immediate aftermath of Vatican II. Pope Francis has called a two-part meeting of the synod — the first session was held last fall, and the second will take place this October — to discuss issues relating to the family, including such controversial topics as homosexuality, contraception and the eligibility of divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Communion.

The synod excited controversy even before its start, when the Vatican sent the world’s bishops’ conferences a questionnaire and encouraged them to seek the views of ordinary Catholics. The bishops’ conference of England and Wales even put the questionnaire on the SurveyMonkey site so that parishioners could fill it out online. Several conferences and individual bishops published summaries of the responses, generating complaints that church teaching should not be fodder for a public-opinion survey.

At the synod’s first session, the pope told the nearly 200 members to speak “without fear” and “to say what one feels duty-bound in the Lord to say.” The ensuing debate, inside and outside the synod hall, was the fiercest the Vatican had seen since Vatican II itself, with sotto voce accusations of heresy and racism and even warnings of schism.

A document issued at the gathering’s midpoint set off a furore because of its conciliatory language toward cohabiting couples, divorced and remarried Catholics, and those in same-sex unions. Australian Cardinal George Pell, the pope’s finance chief, was prompted to denounce the document. “We’re not giving in to the secular agenda; we’re not collapsing in a heap,” he told Catholic News Service.

American Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke went further, telling the Spanish magazine Vida Nueva that the church felt like a “ship without a rudder.” He called on Pope Francis to end debate with an unambiguous restatement of traditional moral teachings, but the pope did not oblige.

“The public image that came across was confusion,” said Archbishop Charles J. Chaput of Philadelphia after the synod. “I think confusion is of the devil.” Though he added, “I don’t think that was the real thing there.”

Such tension was very much in the spirit of Vatican II, which aimed to update the pastoral practice of church doctrine, says Cardinal Wuerl, who helped to draft a final document for the synod’s first session that left the most disputed questions unresolved.

“If your starting point is ‘We already have the answers,’ this process becomes difficult to deal with,” says Cardinal Wuerl. But the pope “is saying, ‘We have the revelation, but we don’t have the application for all times; don’t presume that we know everything and that we have every answer.’ ”

Bishops will come together again in early October to resume debate and produce recommendations. Any changes in the church’s approach to family issues will be up to the pope. Yet his word will not be the last.

German Cardinal Walter Kasper is the most prominent advocate of making it easier for the divorced and remarried to receive Communion. He says that most Catholics and their leaders welcome Pope Francis’ opening, but as he told an audience last fall (according to the National Catholic Reporter), a significant minority of bishops feels otherwise. They have been “exercising restraint and pulling their punches,” he said, “in the hope of sitting out this pontificate.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/pope-francis-and-the-new-rome/story-fnay3ubk-1227292712394


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 05, 2015, 08:29:07 pm
I believe this was in the Wall Street Journal(which I read in a bookstore out of town yesterday) - yeah, everything he's doing is not just hidden in plain sight, but openly blatant.

Sadly, the Apostate church thinks otherwise.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 07, 2015, 08:21:42 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=32278
WHY IS POPE FRANCIS SELLING THE US-IRAN NUCLEAR AGREEMENT ON EASTER SUNDAY?
4/6/15

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:4,5 (KJV)

The Catholic Pope claims to be the authorized representative of Jesus Christ here on this earth. The official Catholic Catechism says “For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.” Wow, that’s a lot of power for one man, for a single human being.

So, and I’m just spit-balling here, you would think that someone with that much spiritual power given to him by Jesus Christ, would be preaching a nearly identical message to that which Jesus preached on the earth. Preaching about Heaven and Hell, repentance, salvation, the coming Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God, and so on. Right? Wrong.

Pope Francis made his first public comments about the recent framework for an accord, reached in Lausanne, Switzerland, and aimed at ensuring Iran doesn’t develop a nuclear weapon.

“In hope we entrust to the merciful Lord the framework recently agreed to in Lausanne, that it may be a definitive step toward a more SECURE and fraternal world.”

Pope Francis, in yesterday’s Easter Sunday message, devoted it to preaching the “gospel” of the “great deal” Obama and his minions had made with Iran about curtailing their murderous nuclear ambitions. His message was nearly 100% geo-political in nature and tone, rarely referring to the Scriptures and doing no expository preaching of any kind. Again I ask you, why? I will tell you why.

In the last days, the days we are now living in, the bible says in Revelation 17 that there will be a great combination power that gathers together all spiritual rule over the people as well as all political rule. A one-stop shop, if you will. When the Apostle John was shown this in a vision, he was shocked, dumbfounded, because he knew right away what he was looking at but couldn’t believe what he was seeing.

“And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.” Revelation 17:6,7 (KJV)

John is seeing the professing Christian church in the time of the Tribulation, only it is apostate, wicked and filthy from stem to stern. John is seeing the Roman Catholic church, under the rule of the False Prophet and the Antichrist, and exercising complete spiritual and political rule over all the kings of the earth. Now you know why Francis is concerned with politics, the revived Roman Empire is just beginning to open it’s eyes and stretch it’s legs. He is not content with spiritual rule over Catholics, he is beginning the ASCENT to political rule as well.

Pope Francis has made a political plea for passing of Climate Change legislation, has demanded global redistribution of the world’s wealth, and for the first time in United States history he as Roman Pope will address Congress. Do you see it now, or are your eyes firmly switched to the off position?

THE BIBLE CONTINUES IT DESCRIPTION OF THE VATICAN AND ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH SYSTEM:

“And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:9,17,18 (KJV)

Just for fun, why don’t you spend your next lazy, rainy afternoon with a cup of coffee and the King James Bible. Read Revelation chapters 17 and 18 in their entirety, pray over them and ask the Holy Spirit to open your eyes to the truth. Those two chapters describe in great detail the Vatican, the Catholic Church, and the revived Roman Empire.

Who else do you know whose colors are purple and scarlet, who holds a golden chalice, who claims spiritual rule over the whole world, and whose headquarters sits on 7 mountains or hills?  All that and more are right there in Revelation 17 and 18 in the KJV.

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.” Matthew 24:24,25 (KJV)

Now you know.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 12, 2015, 10:14:16 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-church-must-oasis-mercy-not-severe-fortress-155717511.html
Pope: Church must be 'oasis of mercy,' not severe fortress
4/11/15

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Saturday proclaimed a special year of worldwide efforts by the Catholic Church to stress mercy, not severity, saying the institution's credibility was at stake.

At St. Peter's Basilica Saturday evening, the pope listened as a Vatican prelate read from a papal bull, or decree, in which Francis proclaimed an "Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy" Holy Year. The year begins Dec. 8 with Francis' opening the normally closed Holy Door in the back of the basilica and ends Nov. 20, 2016.

"The church's very credibility is seen in how she shows merciful and compassionate love," Francis declared in the 12-page long decree.

"In a word, wherever there are Christians, everyone should find an oasis of mercy," Francis said.

Whether this emphasis on mercy will affect church teaching will likely be closely watched by those feeling excluded by the Vatican, including divorced Catholics who remarry and who want Francis to allow them to receive Communion. Gay faithful are also watching to see how they are welcomed.

Francis said the Vatican's modernizing reforms of the 1960s reflected "the need to talk about God ...in a more accessible way" and tear down "walls which too long had made the Church a kind of fortress," he said. Quoting St. John XXIII, who began the reforms, Francis said the church needed to renounce "arms of severity" for the "medicine of mercy."

In explaining his choice of year of mercy, Francis said that "great historical change" means faithful must renew their "capacity to see what is essential" in the church's mission.

In a new practice, Francis announced that in cathedrals and some shrines worldwide, a special "door of mercy" will stay open during Holy Year. 2000 was the last Holy Year.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 24, 2015, 03:35:26 pm
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2015/04/22/nuclear_test_ban_treaty_advocate_meets_pope_francis/1138743
4/22/15
Nuclear Test Ban Treaty advocate meets Pope Francis

(Vatican Radio) Among the notables PRESENT at Wednesday’s General Audience in St. Peter’s Square, was the Executive Secretary of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty Organization, Dr. Lassina Zerbo of Burkina Faso. “Having this General Audience to engage Pope Francis and his ministry in [the push for] banning nuclear test explosions is indeed a privilege,” Dr. Zerbo told Vatican Radio in an exclusive interview following the Audience.

The Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) bans nuclear explosions by everyone, everywhere: on the Earth's surface, in the atmosphere, underwater and underground. Negotiated in Geneva between 1994 and 1996, the CTBT counts one hundred eighty-three signatory COUNTRIES, of which more than one hundred sixty have also ratified it, including three of the declared nuclear states: France, Russia, and the United Kingdom.

Click below to Chris Altieri's extended conversation with Dr. Lassina Zerbo of the CTBT Organization

Before the CTBT can enter into force, however, forty-four specific nuclear technology holder countries must sign and ratify. Of these, eight are still missing: China, Egypt, India, Iran, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan and the United States. The CTBT advocacy leader told Vatican Radio that religious believers have a role to play in making the treaty’s goals a reality, and that Pope Francis is setting an example for religious leaders. “I was touched by Pope Francis thanking me for the work we do to ban nuclear testing, and asking me to pray for him,” Zerbo said. “It’s a solid message,” he CONTINUED. “We need different religious groups to be able to reach out to their followers and get them to understand some of the main issues of this world today, and Pope Francis is doing this, and we expect others to do it.”


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 24, 2015, 03:45:20 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/22/pope-francis-environment-encyclical-climate-change-moral/25870847/
4/22/15
Pope Francis to promote climate action as moral imperative

As the world celebrates Earth Day on Wednesday, Pope Francis is planning to use one of the highest forms of papal expression — an encyclical — to promote climate action to save the planet as a moral and religious imperative.

In recent weeks, Vatican officials have outlined what the DOCUMENT will say and are choreographing its release — perhaps as early as June — for maximum global impact beyond the Roman Catholic Church's 1.2 billion members.

Archbishop Thomas Wenski of Miami, who chairs a panel dealing with environmental issues for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the encyclical has "gone to the TRANSLATORS, so it's at the end of its birthing process."

First on the PROMOTIONAL agenda is an April 28 Vatican conference where United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon will be a keynote speaker. The goal is to advance the morality argument that is a theme of the encyclical.

Then on successive days beginning Sept. 23, the pope will visit the White House, ADDRESS a joint session of Congress — the first pontiff to do so — and address the U.N. General Assembly at the beginning of a summit on sustainable development.


"The timing of the encyclical is significant," Cardinal Peter Turkson told a UNIVERSITY audience in Ireland last month. "2015 is a critical year for humanity. ... The coming 10 months are crucial."

The Ghanian cardinal, who heads the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace and who helped draft the encyclical, said all events lead to Paris in December, when nations will gather to debate how to SLOW or reduce global warming. He described the core message of the encyclical as "human ecology," arguing that global economic inequality — a theme Francis has frequently raised — is inextricably linked to climate change.

The encyclical will urge that saving the environment is saving humanity, particularly the poorest, who are disproportionately impacted by global warming, Turkson said.

Francis hopes the DOCUMENT will "shape the discussion in Paris," Wenski said.

Climate change activists are ecstatic. "He, along with the Dali Lama and a few rock stars, are the most popular people on the planet right now," said Mary Evelyn Tucker, director of the Forum on Religion and Ecology at Yale University. "He has moral authority and efficacy."

Skeptics are apprehensive. Pope Francis has fallen into "apocalyptic ALARMISM," Maureen Mullarkey wrote in the conservative Catholic publication First Things in January. He is, she said, "bending theology to premature (and) intemperate policy endorsements."

Climate scientists frustrated that their warnings are not stirring appropriate public concern about dangers to the planet see the encyclical, which will be passed down through Catholic university teaching and parish ministries, as achieving greater penetration than ever in raising awareness. "I think it has the potential to be seismic," said Thomas Lovejoy, professor in the environmental science and policy department at George Mason University.

The document will land as a record number of Catholics declare or consider presidential runs for 2016: Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Chris Christie and Rick Santorum, all whom either disagree with Francis' views in part or entirely.

The White House, which supports STEPS to combat global warming, praised the pope's stance. White House spokesman Frank Benenati said last week that "we welcome the pope's attention and immeasurable influence to this global issue."

Francis will "be a voice on this issue, which will ... take into ACCOUNT the science," said Wenski. "But he'll be a voice of a pastor, a voice that will talk about the poor having first claim on our conscience in matters pertaining to the common good and (how) policies made about climate change will affect the common good."


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 02, 2015, 05:12:51 pm
Milan Expo opens as Pope Francis warns it must ‘globalise solidarity’
By Alasdair Sandford | With REUTERS
01/05 18:04 CET

The long-awaited Milan Expo has opened its doors to a big fanfare, a warning from the pope, and clashes between protesters and police in the streets.

For Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, the six-month technological exhibition and global fair is a huge prestigious event.

The Expo bears the slogans Feed The Planet, Energy for Life.

“Today is the start of “tomorrow”, first of all beginning with the contradictions of a planet that needs to be fed, but which witnesses the absurd imbalance of a billion people who CONTINUE to die of hunger and a billion people who suffer from eating either too much or the wrong food,” Matteo Renzi told the OPENING ceremony.

Pope Francis referred to the irony of a global spectacle devoted to sustainable development and feeding the poor, being dependent on corporate sponsorship.

Speaking by televised link-up to the OPENING ceremony, he said:
“The Expo is an ideal opportunity to globalise solidarity. Let us not waste it but rather value it fully.”

An inaugural concert was held on Thursday evening, the eve of opening time of the 2015 Milan World Expo.

More than 140 countries are taking part in the global fair, which organisers hope will attract some 20 million visitors.

For Renzi’s government it symbolises a brighter future, going hand in hand with the battle to modernise Italy’s economy and electoral system.

But there were battles of a different kind on the streets of Milan after the Expo’s opening.

Thick CLOUDS of smoke from burning cars filled parts of the centre of Milan as groups of protesters, their faces masked against the fumes, threw stones and faced off against lines of police in riot gear.

Despite the talk of feeding the poor, a wide range of protesters see the EVENT as a front for big business – and a symbol not of modernity, but of waste and corruption.


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Post by: Mark on May 02, 2015, 07:43:41 pm
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The Expo bears the slogans Feed The Planet, Energy for Life.

New Age belief in Gaia/Mother Earth, IE: goddess worship, IE: Semiramis worship, IE: Mary worship


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Speaking by televised link-up to the OPENING ceremony, he said:
“The Expo is an ideal opportunity to globalise solidarity.

ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!!





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Post by: Mark on May 10, 2015, 12:12:06 pm
Castro: Pope Francis so impressive I might return to church

Cuban President Raul Castro paid a call on Pope Francis at the Vatican on Sunday to thank him for working for Cuban-US detente and later said he was so impressed by the pontiff he is considering a return to the Catholic church's fold.

`'Bienvenido!" Francis said in his native Spanish, welcoming Castro to his studio near the Vatican public audience hall. The Cuban president, bowing his head, gripped Francis' hand with both of his, and the two men began private talks. The meeting lasted nearly an hour, as the Argentine-born Francis and Castro spoke in Spanish.

Francis will visit Cuba in September en route to the United States.

After leaving the Vatican, Castro, the brother of Fidel, the revolutionary leader who brought the Communists to power in Cuba, gushed with praise for Francis.

The pontiff "is a Jesuit, and I, in some way, am too," Castro said at a news conference. "I always studied at Jesuit schools."

`'When the pope goes to Cuba in September, I promise to go to all his Masses, and with satisfaction," Castro said at a news conference at the office of Italian Premier Matteo Renzi, whom he met with after the Vatican talks.

"I read all the speeches of the pope, his commentaries, and if the pope continues this way, I will go back to praying and go back to the church, and I'm not joking," he said.

It was a startling assertion for the leader of a Communist country, whose crackdown on dissidents in the past had drawn sharp Vatican criticism.

`'I am from the Cuban Communist Party, that doesn't allow (religious) believers, but now we are allowing it, it's an important step," Castro said.

Speaking about Francis, Castro said he has been `'very impressed by his wisdom, his modesty, and all his virtues that we know he has."

Castro had already publicly thanked Francis for helping to bring Havana and Washington closer together after decades of U.S. government policy of strict isolation of the Communist-ruled Caribbean island. On Sunday, he stepped up his praise on Francis' push for the two nations to put enmity aside and work for reconciliation for the benefit of Americans and Cubans.

As he took his leave from the Vatican, Castro told journalists, "I thanked the pope for what he did."

Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the president also "laid out to the pope the sentiments of the Cuban people in the wait and preparation for his upcoming visit to the island in September."

After his meeting with Renzi, Castro expressed hope that his country would quickly see more fruits of the thaw between Cuba and the United States. `'Maybe the (U.S.) Senate will take us off the list of terrorist nations" soon, Castro told reporters.

Francis gave Castro a medal depicting St. Martin of Tours, known for caring for the destitute.

"With his mantle he covers the poor," Francis told Castro, saying more efforts on behalf of the poor are needed.

Fidel Castro met with Pope John Paul II at the Vatican in 1996. That encounter helped pave the way for John Paul's 1998 pilgrimage to Cuba, the first visit by a pontiff to the island. John Paul was also eager for Cuba to grant more visas for foreign priests to bolster the dwindling corps of clergy on the island.

The Vatican's general policy of opposing economic sanctions as a foreign policy tool carries appeal for Cuban leaders and people, after decades under a U.S. economic embargo. With the Vatican keen on protecting the interests of its Catholic followers under Cuban Communist rule, Pope Benedict XVI also visited the island.

Castro told reporters that `'we are trying to carry forward improvements of our political, social and cultural system. But it's very difficult to do it without causing shocks, without leaving some in the street."

He came to Rome on his way back from celebrations in Moscow of the 70th anniversary of the surrender of Nazi Germany in World War II.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_CUBA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-10-09-16-12


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 10, 2015, 10:30:33 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/10/living/carol-francis-effect/
4/13/15
How Pope Francis awakened the faith of a CNN anchor

(CNN)I remember the day I stopped praying. It was the day after my little brother, Jimmy, died of cancer. He was 25. I was so angry at God.

I was 27 at the time, and, like most young people I had stopped going to church. But, on that day -- that terrible day -- I desperately needed to understand why God took my brother. I called the nearest Catholic church, looking for a priest. A lady picked up the PHONE. "Can I talk with Father?" I asked.

I wish I could say her answer was "yes."

Instead, she asked me if I was a member of that particular parish. "Does it matter?" I asked. (At the time I lived far from my home parish.) I don't remember how she responded, but the answer about my being able to see Father was clearly no.

I don't know if all Catholic churches would have shut me out, but I figured, at the time, it was part of the long list of rules the Vatican required Catholic leaders to follow. I cried for a bit, then decided I would never ask God for anything. Clearly, his conduits on Earth did not have time for me -- a lifelong Catholic -- and sinner -- so why would he?

Ever since, I've considered myself a lapsed Catholic.

Until Pope Francis.

There is something about Francis that's reawakened my faith. And it's not because he OPENED the floodgates to allow sin in the eyes of the church. He still argues against things I passionately support, but I find myself -- like many other lapsed Catholics -- enthralled.

Recently I had the pleasure of meeting one of the Pope's newly appointed cardinals. His name is Cardinal Gerald Lacroix. The 57-year-old presides at the Basilica Cathedral of Notre Dame in Quebec City.

One of my first questions: What is it about Pope Francis?

"Every person is a mystery you know. ... But what's evident is this man is living with such freedom, such inner freedom. He's himself. He's in tune with the Lord," Lacroix told me.

"Those close to him say he's up close to 4 in the morning to prepare his daily Mass, which is at 7 in the morning on the weekdays. So that's almost three hours of prayer, preparation and silence before the Lord and the word of God. Wow, that really fine-tunes you to start off a day."

Perhaps that's how the Pope stays humble. Why he defies tradition and washes the feet of the DISABLED, women and those of other faiths. Why he ordered showers to be built for the poor in St. Peter's Square.

All of this is appealing, but it's more than that. In my mind, it's his tone. When Pope Francis said, "If a person is gay and he SEARCHES for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" The comment took me aback. Homosexuality has long been a taboo subject for the Vatican, yet Pope Francis uttered those welcoming words.

Lacroix likened the Pope's approach to Jesus. "Jesus didn't judge. Jesus did not come as a judge. He came as someone who preached and talked about the love of God."

Those kinds of answers are so different in my experience, but I understand why more conservative Catholics worry. If the Pope does not judge, then who will tell us who is a sinner and who is not?

"I hear that sometimes, too," Lacroix told me. "I think Pope Francis is conservative in the right way. You have to be conservative enough to come BACK to what is the foundation: that's the Gospel. You cannot reproach Pope Francis of not living the Gospel, or not preaching the truth of the Gospel."

But isn't homosexuality a sin in the eyes of the church?

"There is room for everyone. The door is OPEN," Cardinal Lacroix insisted. "Of course you know that the Catholic Church will never promote same sex marriage, but do we respect homosexual persons? Do we welcome them? Do we accompany them? Of course. But to respect the Church and its teaching, which is based on a long tradition and also the word of God, we will not go so far as to bless. But that doesn't mean we reject."

That last sentiment -- "that doesn't mean we reject." -- did it for me.

I finally understood why Pope Francis reawakened my faith. I always felt my church would reject me for committing the smallest of sins. Like calling a priest at a church that was not my home parish. Like not covering my head with a traditional veil at Easter. Like accidentally eating meat on Holy Friday. Like supporting the use of contraception.

But as Lacroix told me, Jesus walked with sinners until the very end. He did not banish them to fires of hell, for He refused to give up on anyone.

The Cardinal's last words to me: "I'm trying to do my best on (the) local level -- to have an OPEN ear to what the church and world are experiencing. To see how we can today respond to those needs. I want people to see me, and the church, as an open heart to grow together. Not a church that's imposing -- we have nothing to impose -- we have someone to propose: the Lord Jesus and his Gospel."

I can't WAIT to go church next Sunday. And, yes, I will bow my head and pray for forgiveness, and if I'm worthy, Christ's love.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 10, 2015, 10:36:17 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32679290
Raul Castro thanks Pope Francis for brokering Cuba-US deal
5/10/15

Cuban President Raul Castro has praised Pope Francis for brokering the restoration of relations between Cuba and the US, announced in December.
At the end of an audience at the Vatican, Mr Castro said he had thanked the Pope for his contribution for the historic rapprochement.

Secret negotiations to put an end to more than five decades of hostilities were carried out inside the Vatican.

The Pope will visit Cuba on his way to the US in September.

"I am very happy. I have come here to thank him for what he has done to begin solving the problems of the United States and Cuba," said Mr Castro.

The communist leader had stopped at the Vatican after attending Russia's World War Two Victory Day in Moscow.

After the audience with the Pope, Mr Castro said he was so impressed by a Vatican audience with Pope Francis that he might return to the faith he was born into.

Mr Castro praised the pontiff's wisdom, adding: "I will resume praying and turn to the Church again if the Pope continues in this vein."

The Catholic Church has maintained ties with Havana since the 1959 revolution.

The fact that the man who helped lead the Cuban Revolution would even joke about returning to the Catholic Church shows just how far the relationship between Havana and the Vatican has moved forward recently.

That has been particularly true under Pope Francis. First, the Pontiff played a crucial role in smoothing the path to negotiations between Cuba and the US over the past 18 months. Furthermore, he has given his blessing to the process and to the Cuban government by arranging to come to Cuba in September before his visit to the US.

As a Latin American himself, Pope Francis has always been able to maintain good ties with Latin American leaders from both the left and the right. He has repeatedly called for the US trade embargo on Cuba to be lifted, for example.

Now he has hosted, and seemingly wooed, Raul Castro in Rome strengthening the ties even further. Hardly surprising Mr Castro is considering returning to Mass!

But the state-run newspaper Granma omitted Mr Castro's comments about returning to the Church when it reported the meeting on its website. A reflection, perhaps, of how surprising it is for Cubans to hear Mr Castro make such comments, whether tongue-in-cheek or not.

For Pope Francis, the restoration of relations between the US and Cuba has been a major diplomatic achievement, says the BBC's David Willey in Rome.

The US had imposed a trade embargo after Cuba's revolution, which it began to lift late last year.

After the 50-minute private audience on Sunday, Mr Castro told reporters: "The pontiff is a Jesuit, and I, in some way, am too. I studied at Jesuit schools."

After suggesting he might turn again to the Church, he added: "I mean what I say."

Both Mr Castro and his brother, revolutionary leader Fidel Castro, were baptised as Roman Catholics, but most Church activities were suppressed after the revolution.


Francis will be the third Pope to travel to Cuba, following visits there by John Paul II in 1998 and Benedict XVI in 2012.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 10, 2015, 10:40:19 pm
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=50712#.VVA8co7F9GY
At Vatican meeting, UN chief and Pope Francis discuss climate change, Mediterranean migration

28 April 2015 – During a meeting with His Holiness Pope Francis today, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he very much looked forward to the Pontiff's encyclical on climate change, which he said he believed would act as a moral voice on the issue.

“I am grateful for his invitation, and applaud his humanitarian vision,” said Mr. Ban. “During our conversation, Pope Francis spoke of his commitment to making the world a better place for all.”

Mr. Ban and Pope Francis met on the margins of a workshop organized by the Pontifical Academy of Sciences called 'Protect the Earth, Dignify Humanity,' which explores the moral dimensions of climate change and sustainable humanity.

As well as discussing climate change, a readout of the meeting issued by a UN spokesperson in new York said Mr. Ban briefed Pope Francis on his visit yesterday to the Italian Navy vessel San Giusto where he was briefed on the on-going operations to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean.

“These migrants, many of whom are refugees, are desperate for a better future,” said Mr. Ban. “We need to address the root causes of migration and find ways to share responsibility for resettling those who make the perilous journey. That includes increasing safe and regular channels for migration.”

They also discussed several other issues including social exclusion and the situation in South Sudan, as well as human trafficking and contemporary slavery, and the role of sport as a tool for EDUCATION and human development.

The Secretary-General provided an update on his Global EDUCATION First initiative in the forthcoming global education forum to be held next month in Korea and on the ongoing review conference of the Non-Proliferation Treaty in New York. They reaffirmed their commitment to continue to work for a world free of nuclear weapons.

Lastly, the Secretary-General said he very much looked forward to the Pope's visit to the United Nations in September, when leaders from around the world will converge in New York for the United Nations SPECIAL summit for the adoption of a universal and transformative post-2015 development agenda.

The special summit was one of three international gatherings to build a sustainable development agenda for generations to come and in later remarks at the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), Mr. Ban said the international efforts would rely on the full engagement and leadership of the Organisation's MEMBERSHIP.

“The OECD is a vital forum for helping to build such momentum,” he said. “You can rally your members around this vital agenda. You can inspire and inform the policy changes we need. The OECD has a long history of ADDRESSING challenges such as policy coherence – which will be crucial to address the sustainable development challenge.”


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Post by: Mark on May 14, 2015, 05:41:25 am
Pope Ponders Paganism.

uhm... The catholic belief IS paganism

Not since the rule of Emperor Constantine, during the Roman Warm Era, have pagan gods been tolerated in Rome.

Before Constantine, Romans worshipped 12 main gods including Apollo (the Sun), Diana (the Moon), Flora (the plants), Uranus (the sky), Ceres (the crops), Gaia (the Earth) and of course Bacchus (wine), Venus (love) and Mars (war). Some of these gods demanded tribute and sacrifice.

Christianity, the worship of one forgiving God, slowly absorbed or eliminated its pagan rivals. The Popes in Rome came to lead a Catholic empire of Christians.

In modern times, the old Greek/Roman goddess, Gaia, has been resurrected by the world green movement.

Pope Francis seems to seek an alliance with these nature worshippers.

Unfortunately the Green wolf will never lie down with the Christian lambs.

Christians promote care for humanity especially the weak and the poor. The Gaia worshippers have subordinated humans to “nature” and their attitude to other humans ranges from contempt to deep hatred. Under their extremist Agenda 21, the priests of Gaia would sacrifice humans by restricting their access to land, oceans, food, minerals and energy, and then concentrate the survivors in soul-destroying dormitory cities and food factories. Greens want all descendants of Adam and Eve expelled from our Gardens of Eden.

Christians generally value individual freedom and private property. The Green priesthood will not rest until there is a world government in which there is no private property and all humans are numbered, controlled and planned. They are using climate alarmism to achieve these goals.

Priests and Pontiffs have no place in dictating questions of science and engineering. Climate forecasts and energy policy should be determined by scientific enquiry and sound engineering, not by high-priests dabbling in politics.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/71944


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Post by: Mark on May 16, 2015, 12:38:20 pm
Pope calls Palestinian leader "angel of peace" during visit

Pope Francis praised Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as an "angel of peace" during a meeting Saturday at the Vatican that underscored the Holy See's warm relations with the Palestinians as it prepares to canonize two 19th century nuns from the region.

Francis made the compliment during the traditional exchange of gifts at the end of an official audience in the Apostolic Palace. He presented Abbas with a medallion and explained that it represented the "angel of peace destroying the bad spirit of war."

Francis said he thought the gift was appropriate since "you are an angel of peace." During his 2014 visit to Israel and the West Bank, Francis called both Abbas and Israeli President Shimon Peres men of peace.

Abbas is in Rome for the canonization Sunday of two 19th-century nuns from what was then Ottoman-ruled Palestine. The new saints, Mariam Bawardy and Marie Alphonsine Ghattas, are the first from the region to be canonized since the early days of Christianity.

Church officials are holding up the new saints as a sign of hope and encouragement for Christians in the Middle East at a time when violent persecution from Islamic extremists has driven many Christians from the region of Christ's birth.

In a statement Saturday, Abbas praised the two new saints as inspirational models for today's Palestinians and urged Christians like them to remain in the region.

"We call on Palestinian Christians to stay with us and enjoy the rights of full and equal citizenship, and bear with us the difficulties of life until we achieve liberty, sovereignty and human dignity," he said.

Abbas' visit comes days after the Vatican finalized a bilateral treaty with the "state of Palestine" that made explicit its recognition of Palestinian statehood.

The Vatican said it had expressed "great satisfaction" over the new treaty during the talks with the Palestinian delegation. It said the pope, and later the Vatican secretary of state, also expressed hopes that direct peace talks with Israel would resume.

"To this end, the wish was reiterated that with the support of the international community, Israelis and Palestinians may take with determination courageous decisions to promote peace," a Vatican statement said.

It added that interreligious dialogue was needed to combat terrorism.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_PALESTINIANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-07-11-10


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Post by: Mark on May 17, 2015, 07:58:07 am
Pope Francis extends agenda of change to Vatican diplomacy

Pope Francis' hard-hitting criticisms of globalization and inequality long ago set him out as a leader unafraid of mixing theology and politics. He is now flexing the Vatican's diplomatic muscles as well.

Last year, he helped to broker an historic accord between Cuba and the United States after half a century of hostility.

This past week, his office announced the first formal accord between the Vatican and the State of Palestine -- a treaty that gives legal weight to the Holy See's longstanding recognition of de-facto Palestinian statehood despite clear Israeli annoyance.

The pope ruffled even more feathers in Turkey last month by referring to the massacre of up to 1.5 million Armenians in the early 20th century as a "genocide", something Ankara denies.

After the inward-looking pontificate of his scholarly predecessor, Pope Benedict, Francis has in some ways returned to the active Vatican diplomacy practiced by the globetrotting Pope John Paul II, widely credited for helping to end the Cold War.

Much of his effort has concentrated on improving relations between different faiths and protecting the embattled Middle East Christians, a clear priority for the Catholic Church.

However in an increasingly fractured geopolitical world, his diplomacy is less obviously aligned to one side in a global standoff between competing blocs than that of John Paul's 27-year-long papacy.

This is reinforced by his status as the world's first pope from Latin America, a region whose turbulent history, widespread poverty and love-hate relationship with the United States has given him an entirely different political grounding from any of his European predecessors.

"Under this pope, the Vatican's foreign policy looks South," said Massimo Franco, a prominent Italian political commentator and author of several books on the Vatican.

He said the pope has been careful to avoid taking sides on issues like Ukraine, where he has never defined Russia as an aggressor, but has always referred to the conflict between the government and Moscow-backed rebels as a civil war.

That approach is intended to ensure he remains more credible with countries like Syria, Russia or Cuba, all nations where Francis feels he can help local Christians best by steering an independent course.

DIPLOMATIC RISKS

Francis already has his hands full overhauling the Vatican's complex internal bureaucracy after a series of financial and sexual scandals involving abuse of children by priests which date back decades.

But clearly deeply interested in how the world outside the walls of the Vatican works, he appears determined to use his position and the huge global audience he commands to challenge entrenched diplomatic positions as well.

The former secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, a veteran insider whose office formerly controlled both relations with foreign powers and many internal Vatican affairs, has been replaced. His office has been downgraded to resemble a more classical diplomatic service while Francis has set a bolder, more personal stamp on Vatican foreign policy.

"He's someone who's capable of praying in the Blue Mosque in Istanbul and then talking about the Armenian genocide. He's not someone who's bound by political correctness," said former Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini.

"It's the diplomacy of a real leader."

Whether it is to the taste of all the world's 1.2 billion Catholics, world politicians with priorities of their own or even the many layers of the Church's own administration is another matter.

With many conservative Catholics unhappy about the pope's focus on issues like economic injustice and his relatively tolerant tone on sensitive social topics like homosexuality and the status of divorced people, pronounced views on delicate diplomatic issues could cause further division in the Church.

It is a point where he will be particularly tested in September on his upcoming visit to the United States, where some conservative U.S. Catholics are openly hostile.

After helping to foster last year's agreement reviving diplomatic relations between Havana and Washington, Francis reaped criticism from many U.S. conservatives, including Marco Rubio, a candidate for the Republican nomination for president.

Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants and a practicing Catholic, avoided directly admonishing the pope, but said he should "take up the cause of freedom and democracy" in Cuba.

That kind of veiled criticism from a politician who would normally be considered a staunch Church ally reflects the wider unease some Catholics feel at the change Francis has ushered in at one of the world's most conservative institutions.

"Bishops complain that he becomes popular by attacking the Church," said Franco.

"He speaks directly to the people and doesn't respect the usual command structures. He decides on his own or with people who are not those who previously had a central role."

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-extends-agenda-change-vatican-diplomacy-091928480.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 21, 2015, 10:49:48 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=33201
POPE FRANCIS APPOINTS RADICALLY LIBERAL, PRO-HOMOSEXUAL PRIEST TO VATICAN COUNCIL
5/21/15

POPE FRANCIS HAS APPOINTED RADICALLY LIBERAL, PRO-HOMOSEXUAL DOMINICAN FATHER TIMOTHY RADCLIFFE AS A CONSULTOR FOR THE PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE.

“And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.” Revelation 16:13 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Pope Francis, the man we deem likely to fulfill the role of the False Prophet of Revelation, will bring the LGBT into the Catholic Church, with full papal blessing. And as such, the Catholic Church will cease to preach against homosexuality as the Pope continues to build the end times One World Religion, where all points of view will be welcome except that of the bible believing Christian.

The Holy Father made the appointment on Saturday, according to Vatican Radio. Father Radcliffe, an Englishman, author and speaker, was Master of the Dominican order from 1992 to 2001, and is an outspoken proponent of homosexuality.

“We must accompany gay people as they discern what this means, letting our images be stretched open,” he said in a 2006 religious education lecture in Los Angeles. “This means watching ‘Brokeback Mountain,’ reading gay novels, living with our gay friends and listening with them as they listen to the Lord.”

In 2005, as the Vatican deliberated the admission of men with homosexual tendencies to study for the priesthood in the wake of the Church sex abuse scandal, Father Radcliffe said that homosexuality should not bar men from the priesthood, and rather, those who oppose it should be banned.

As a contributor to the 2013 Anglican Pilling Report on human sexual ethics Father Radcliffe said of homosexuality:

How does all of this bear on the question of gay sexuality? We cannot begin with the question of whether it is permitted or forbidden! We must ask what it means, and how far it is Eucharistic. Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual and non-violent. So in many ways, I would think that it can be expressive of Christ’s self-gift. We can also see how it can be expressive of mutual fidelity, a covenantal relationship in which two people bind themselves to each other for ever.

Father Radcliffe often celebrated Mass for the U.K. dissident group Soho Masses Pastoral Council (now renamed the LGBT Catholics Westminster Pastoral Council).

The priest is also a supporter of the proposal of to allow communion for divorced and remarried Catholics. source


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 29, 2015, 05:50:47 am
‘Pope Francis’ Claims Devil Keeping Evangelicals, Roman Catholics Divided: ‘They Are One’

 In a recorded video statement released on Saturday, the Roman Catholic Pontiff known as Francis asserted that evangelicals and Catholics are one, and that it is the devil who has divided the two groups.

“Division is the work of the ‘Father of Lies,’ ‘the Father of Discord,’ who does everything possible to keep us divided,” he said.

The eight-minute video was for the “Celebration of Christian Unity” event organized by John 17 Ministries out of Pheonix, Ariz., which seeks to unite Christians and Catholics.

“I feel like saying something that may sound controversial, or even heretical, perhaps,” Francis stated. “But there is someone who ‘knows’ that despite our differences we are one.”

“The devil knows that Christians are disciples of Christ, that they are one, that they are brothers! He doesn’t care if they are Evangelicals or Orthodox, Lutherans, Catholics or Apostolic … He doesn’t care! They are Christians,” he said.

The pontiff asserted that the devil is persecuting both evangelicals and Roman Catholics alike because they are all Christian.

“It is he who is persecuting us. It is he who is persecuting Christians today, he who is anointing us with (the blood of) martyrdom,” he said. “Dear brothers and sisters, we are living in an ‘ecumenism of blood.'”

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Francis said that he unity must be achieved by each individual as he doesn’t believe it will occur at the hands of Bible scholars.

“I am convinced it won’t be theologians who bring about unity among us,” he stated. “Theologians help us, … but if we hope that theologians will agree with one another, we will reach unity the day after Judgement Day.”

However, some disagree with the pontiff’s ecumenical assertions, stating that unity should not be sought at the expense of the gospel.
Gendron

Gendron

“Jesus prayed that His Church would be sanctified by the truth. This means there cannot be unity with those who believe another gospel,” Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries told Christian News Network. “Believers cannot be unequally yoked with unbelievers (2 Cor. 6:14). Evangelicals can never have unity with Catholics because we are divided on the essentials of the gospel, how one is born again, how one is justified, how one is purified of sin, who can mediate between God and man and the efficacy, sufficiency and necessity of Jesus Christ for salvation.”

“God’s word declares that anyone who believes another gospel has believed in vain (1 Cor. 15:2). Scripture also condemns those who preach another gospel (Gal. 1:6-9),” he continued. “Pope Francis preaches another gospel and denies that salvation is by grace alone through faith in Christ alone. He preaches salvation is by water baptism, the sacraments, good works, keeping the law and attending the sin offering of a Eucharist Christ on an altar.”

Gendron said that Francis is incorrect in pronouncing the divide to Satan.

“The pope has pronounced a fatal error by attributing the word of Christ to the work of the devil. The Lord Jesus is the one who divides believers from unbelievers (Luke 12:51-53),” he stated. “This Jesuit pope is the one who is doing the work of the devil by rebuilding the religious tower of Babel with his attempt to bring all Christians back home to Rome. Tragically, some evangelicals are jumping on his ecumenical bandwagon and departing from the faith (1 Tim. 4:1-3).”

https://youtu.be/DGOGfKeDKy8

http://christiannews.net/2015/05/28/pope-francis-claims-devil-keeping-evangelicals-roman-catholics-divided-they-are-one/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 29, 2015, 07:31:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXUHQx4BhYI


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 06, 2015, 09:55:52 pm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Pope-Francis-Calls-Right-W-by-James-Quandy-America_America_Anti-gay_CHRISTIANS-CANNOT-BE-CONSERVATIVES-150606-114.html
6/6/15
Pope Francis Calls Right-Wing Christian Fundamentalism a Sickness

For the original article in "Addicting Info", quoted from below: click here
"Pope Francis has been very clear about how he feels about ideological purity in religion. He's been particularly critical of right-wing Christian fundamentalism. Pope Francis has shifted the focus of the Catholic Church to issues facing the poor and the sick. He has railed against economic inequality and has criticized the anti-gay and anti-abortion strains that have come to dominate the Christian Right here in America. Such ideological extremism is dangerous, not only to Christianity, but to the world. And Pope Francis said as much last Thursday.

Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.
During a daily Mass last week, Pope Francis called ideological Christianity "an illness" that doesn't serve Jesus Christ. Instead, it "frightens" people and pushes them away from religion.

According to Radio Vatican, the Pope said:

"In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought" For this reason Jesus said to them: 'You have taken away the key of knowledge.' The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?"

Based on past statements, Pope Francis' remarks were aimed mostly at the Christian Right.

While Pope Francis did not specifically mention Christian right-wing ideology during the Mass, his past remarks suggest he was talking about that ideology most of all.

In September, Pope Francis attacked "savage capitalism" and took up the plight of the unemployed against a system that worships money. Earlier that month, the Pope also criticized conservative Catholics for focusing so much on abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception. And in July, Pope Francis put the brakes on hating gay people, saying that we shouldn't judge or marginalize them.

Clearly, Pope Francis isn't fond of the extreme ideals of the Christian Right. He supports helping the poor. He believes in economic fairness. He denounces hatred of gay people. He thinks the war against abortion and birth control has gone too far. Considering all of these things, it's pretty obvious that Pope Francis was mostly talking to right-wing Christians on Thursday. Their ideological fanaticism has damaged religion. They have abandoned the true teachings of Jesus to pursue an extremist agenda. And Pope Francis just called them out for it. Cue right-wing rage in 3, 2, 1""


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 08, 2015, 06:50:57 pm
http://www.inquisitr.com/2153421/vladimir-putin-says-world-war-3-fears-are-unjustified-but-pope-francis-says-ww3-already-started/
Vladimir Putin Says World War 3 Fears Are Unjustified, But Pope Francis Says WW3 Already Started
6/7/15

Russian President Vladimir Putin is doing his best to quell any fears over the possibility of World War 3 breaking out between the NATO forces and Russia, claiming that only a “sick person” would imagine WW3. Pope Francis would disagree with this assessment, and believes the world has been beset by an “atmosphere of war.”

In a related report by the Inquisitr, Finland has been prepping its army reserves for war, and Sweden is receiving help from U.S. B-52 nuclear bombers as a show of force in Europe. Investor George Soros also believes it is “no exaggeration” to speak of World War 3 starting soon, although he claims a third world war would start in China over financial concerns. The Chinese leadership also recently spoke openly about the possibility of World War 3, but they blamed the United States for “meddling” in world affairs.

The Ukraine war continues to be battled between Kiev and pro-Russian separatist forces, but Vladimir Putin claims he is still committed to a peace deal. Although authorities in Kiev have blamed Russia for inciting further violence, Putin believes the opposite is true and claims Kiev is unwilling to sit down with the rebels and discuss the implementation of the European-brokered peace deal agreed on in February in Minsk.

“The problem is that representatives of the current Kiev authorities do not even want to sit down to talks with them,” Putin said. “And there is nothing we can do about it.”

Putin also claimed that World War 3 fears were unjustified, claiming that Russia’s military would never suddenly attack NATO over the Ukraine crisis.

“I would like to say – there’s no need to be afraid of Russia,” Putin told the newspaper Corriere della Sera according to AFP. “The world has changed so much that people in their right mind cannot imagine such a large-scale military conflict today. We have other things to do, I can assure you. Only a sick person — and even then only in his sleep — can imagine that Russia would suddenly attack NATO.”

This statement is quite different from what Putin said during a private meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso. During the course of their discussion, it was claimed that Vladimir Putin threatened World War 3.


“If I wanted, in two days I could have Russian troops not only in Kiev, but also in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Bucharest.”

Fortunately, the Russian president has backed off from making such public statements, although Poroshenko believes the “colossal threat” of a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent.

Pope Francis also fears the possibility of World War 3, although the Catholic leader claims WW3 has already started. The Pope believes the many conflicts around the globe amount to “a kind of third world war being fought piecemeal and, in the context of global communications, we sense an atmosphere of war.”

According to The Catholic Herald, Vladimir Putin and Pope Francis are scheduled to meet in person this week on Wednesday. The Catholic leader has appealed multiple times for peace in Ukraine, and during Easter he said he hopes it is possible to “rediscover peace and hope thanks to the commitment of all interested parties.

What do you think about the comments made by Vladimir Putin and Pope Francis?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 09, 2015, 02:43:27 pm
For First Time Ever Pope to Allow Reading of Quran and Islamic Prayers at Vatican This Sunday!

The Muslim world is finding much to rejoice about in a confusing and quite shocking decision made by the Pope. The Pope will allow Muslims to read from the Quran and chant Islamic prayers from the Vatican in a move said to promote peace.

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Problem is, in many instances the Quran promotes violence and war. The Quran calls for forced conversion of all Catholics to Islam, so I fail to see how allowing its words to flow through the Vatican is a good thing.

Just how bad is the Quran when it comes to tolerance of the Catholic faith?

You be the judge.

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

    Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

    The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways. Most of today’s Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book’s call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

    Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

http://www.libertynews.com/2014/06/shock-for-first-time-ever-pope-to-allow-reading-of-quran-and-islamic-prayers-at-vatican-this-sunday/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 10, 2015, 11:38:24 pm
http://time.com/3917075/pope-francis-vladimir-putin/
The pope can use his partnership with Putin to take a lead in foreign affairs
6/10/15

In light of Pope Francis and Vladimir Putin meeting Wednesday at the Vatican, it’s useful to recall the first meeting between the two in November 2013. The scariest photo of Pope Francis was taken at that meeting. Staring at the Russian president from across his desk, the pope’s demeanor suggested he wasn’t afraid of the former KGB officer who has had an iron-fisted rule over the nation for a better part of a generation. Photos speak a thousand words, but in this case, perhaps it was a bit deceptive.

John Allen wrote Tuesday:

Judging solely on the basis of personality, Pope Francis and Russian President Vladimir Putin may seem an odd geopolitical couple. Francis is a man of compassion and peace, while Putin is quite possibly the single world leader you most wouldn’t want to run into in a dark alley. Yet when Francis and Putin meet on Wednesday in the Vatican, it will bring together two figures who’ve forged an improbably strong partnership.

This partnership was originally formed in September 2013 when both Francis and Putin called on the U.S. to not take military action in Syria. Francis and Putin used two very different means to communicate their messages: Francis held a worldwide prayer vigil for peace, while Putin penned a somewhat audacious editorial in The New York Times in which he cited Pope Francis’s objection as a reason for the U.S. to not get involved in the region.

Russia-sponsored media have suggested such partnerships make Putin and Francis champions of similar values—which is clearly overstated. But Francis’s working relationship with Putin isn’t without concern. Some have criticized the pope for being too soft on Putin, particularly after Russia invaded the Crimea region in Ukraine last year. In fact, some of the pope’s strongest critics are bishops in the region.

Yet a little more than two years into his tenure, I still think Pope Francis is the best politician in the world. Twice in his relatively short papacy he’s made significant foreign policy progress.

In June 2014, Francis convened an unprecedented Vatican meeting between then-Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to discuss a new way forward between the warring nations. Just a few months earlier, a frustrated Secretary of State John Kerry said his efforts to do the same had failed.

And last December, Francis helped usher in a new era of peace and dialogue between U.S. and Cuba. During President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address, he credited the pope for his crucial role in the process. Just last month, Cuban President Raul Castro said that if Francis keeps going in the same direction, he might even pray again and consider a return to the Catholic Church.

If Francis can help make progress with Putin in resolving the crisis in Ukraine, the pope will have achieved a diplomatic triple crown.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 15, 2015, 10:38:16 pm
http://universalfreepress.com/german-climate-nazi-teaming-up-with-pope-francis-for-roll-out-of-global-govt-climate-encyclical/
German Climate Nazi Teaming Up With Pope Francis For Roll Out Of Global Govt “Climate” Encyclical
6/14/15

A Papal propaganda piece promoting population control and world government might seem to many to be a bit out of the realm of authority and expertise of the head of the Catholic Church, and well beyond his appropriate bounds. The Catholic Church has well known positions against birth control and abortion so at first glance it is might seem curious that Pope Francis has chosen to involve himself with certain individuals in his make believe fight against the air, the water and the climate. Pope Francis is much more than a typical pope or religious leader, he’s an operative for the global elites whose plan is quite simply to rule the world.

On June 18th what will be benignly labeled as a teaching document by those who are promoting it, an encyclical, will be issued in an effort to convince us all that there is a higher calling that can only be answered by submitting to the domination of power-mad authoritarians.

The picture will be painted as one of a desperate need, in spite of evidence all around us that that is simply not the case. We’ll be told that the planet is dying, we are all Earth-murderers and that the Pope has the key to our absolution. We must simply surrender all of our possessions, our national identities and our lifestyles. We can do it over time, but not too much time and once we start there’s no turning back. As bad as we have things, our children will have it worse, and their children after them. We must all become enslaved to the planet and its merry band of oligarchs to know the true freedom and happiness that comes with a meaningless existence.

Nothing cures poverty like lowering the standard of living for the productive to the point where they are poor as well, eliminating “poverty” through the theoretical creation of equality. We’ll all be equally miserable, equally threatened, and our situations equally hopeless.

The non-climatologist Pope couldn’t be expected to write his own propaganda document for such an important event. They needed professional help and fortunately for them, Obama and the UN are never more than a phone call away. Obama’s fellow Columbia alumnus and green Nazi Jeffrey Sachs of the Earth Institute was just one of the many operatives dispatched to provide the needed scary and urgent content. Regular sessions have been conducted to formalize what will essentially be a call for the dismantling of Western civilizations, including a gathering of forty leading alarmists at the Vatican in May.

One particularly unsavory individual, a pro-death German eugenicist by the name of Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, has been selected to be one of three presenters at the Vatican when the assault on free men is officially launched. He’s the director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and a personal climate advisor to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The notorious Schellnhuber has publicly stated his beliefs that the planet can only sustain one billion people, which puts us miraculously now at what he has declared to be seven times capacity. Of course, those seven billion people are somehow surviving just fine in spite of his claims that we’re an infestation, in many ways better than we did when population levels were considerably less, but reason and common sense are not part of these “geniuses” and their proclamations. This is the kind of individual that Pope Francis has aligned himself with and who are crafting the Pope’s document. There are many more like him.

Why is Pope Francis associated with individuals who favor eliminating 85 percent of the world’s population? His involvement, both with Pope Francis and Angela Merkel is consistent with Hussein Obama’s selection of eugenicist John Holdren as his Science Czar. He’s a man who advocated for global sterilization and forced abortions, who pushes the same agenda. It’s a bizarre and unseemly alliance for the leader of the Catholic Church but at the same time quite revealing. We must understand who this Pope is to appreciate the true measure of his actions in their full context.

Schellnhuber views the solution to the fabricated problems of the climate as a three part surrender of all people to global authoritarianism, maintaining the UN Agenda 21 position of promoting “sustainability” as a core principle. He urged:

The adoption of an Earth Constitution which “would transcend the UN Charter and identify those first principles guiding humanity in its quest for freedom, dignity, security and sustainability.”

The establishment of a Global Council which “would be an assembly of individuals elected directly by all people on Earth, where eligibility should be not constrained by geographical, religious, or cultural quotas”

The establishment of a Planetary Court, which “would be a transnational legal body open to appeals from everybody, especially with respect to violations of the Earth Constitution.”


What we are about to witness is mind control on a large scale, the attempt to abuse the faith and trust of Catholics around the world in order to scare and manipulate them into supporting global government. It must be recognized for what it is and not be allowed to succeed. The second half of this year will see a major push of the UN upon us by those who see themselves as our rightful masters.

We simply can’t let them get away with it. The future of our planet and all of mankind depends upon us stopping them.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 21, 2015, 10:16:44 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-venerates-mysterious-shroud-turin-105510313.html
Pope 'moved to tears' by asylum seekers' plight
6/21/15

Turin (Italy) (AFP) - Pope Francis said Sunday the plight of asylum seekers hoping for a new life in Europe was enough to make him cry, condemning those who treat them "like merchandise".

Speaking during his first pastoral visit to northern Italy, the pontiff slammed hostility towards migrants arriving by boat from Libya, with European countries bickering over who should be forced to provide shelter to the needy.

"It brings tears to one's eyes to see the spectacle of these days, in which human beings have been treated like merchandise," he told the crowds.

He was speaking as Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi met his French counterpart Francois Hollande in Milan to discuss the immigration crisis which has seen hundreds of migrants blocked on the border between the two countries.

The head of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics was in the industrial city in the northwest of the country for a two-day visit which saw him spend time with the poor, sick and marginalised, including prisoners and migrants.

Francis, whose father grew up in the city, was in Turin to pray before the mysterious shroud, believed by Christians to be the burial cloth of Jesus but held by sceptics to be a medieval fake.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 23, 2015, 03:36:23 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/world/pope-10-commandments-climate-change/index.html
6/19/15
The Pope's 10 commandments on climate change

(CNN)Pope Francis released a sweeping statement about the environment on Thursday, calling for "cultural revolution" to change our lifestyles -- from our addiction to technology to our treatment of the poor.

The document is very long -- 184 pages in English. But here are 10 quick commandments the Pope says everybody can follow to stop the "disturbing warming" of our planet.

1. Think of future generations.

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2. Embrace alternative energy sources.

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3. Consider pollution's effect on the poor.

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4. Take the bus!

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5. Be humble.

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6. Don't become a slave to your phone.

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7. Don't trade online relationships for real ones.

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8. Turn off the lights, recycle and don't waste food.

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9. Educate yourself.

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10. Believe you can make a difference.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 25, 2015, 02:56:08 pm
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20150624/COLUMNIST/150629877/2127?Title=David-Brooks-Pope-Francis-and-the-serpent-s-wisdom&tc=ar
6/24/15
David Brooks: Pope Francis and the serpent's wisdom

Pope Francis is one of the world's most inspiring figures. There are passages in his new encyclical on the environment that beautifully place human beings within the seamless garment of life. And yet overall the encyclical is surprisingly disappointing.

Legitimate warnings about the perils of global warming morph into 1970s-style doom-mongering about technological civilization. There are too many overdrawn statements like “The earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth.”

Hardest to accept, though, is the moral premise implied throughout the encyclical: that the only legitimate human relationships are based on compassion, harmony and love, and that arrangements based on self-interest and competition are inherently destructive.

The pope has a section on work in the encyclical. The section's heroes are St. Francis of Assisi and monks -- emblems of selfless love who seek to return, the pope says, to a state of “original innocence.”

He is relentlessly negative, on the other hand, when describing institutions in which people compete for political power or economic gain. At one point he links self-interest with violence. He comes out against technological advances that will improve productivity by replacing human work. He specifically condemns market-based mechanisms to solve environmental problems, even though these cap-and-trade programs are up and running in places like California.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 30, 2015, 04:14:29 pm
http://rt.com/news/270682-pope-francis-coca-bolivia/
Pope Francis to chew coca leaves during visit to Bolivia – minister
6/30/15

Pope Francis has made an unexpected request for his upcoming trip to Bolivia – he wants to chew coca leaves, the natural source of ****, according to a government official. Bolivia says it will “await the Holy Father” with the "sacred" leaves.

Culture Minister Marko Machicao told state broadcasters that the Bolivian government “offered [the Pope] coca tea or something for the altitude” on his upcoming visit.

But the pontiff apparently has his sights on chewing coca leaves, which have been used by local people to ward off the effects of altitude for centuries. They are also believed to help with muscle pain and stave off hunger and thirst, and can be used for medicinal and food purposes.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 08, 2015, 08:51:44 am
Pope wraps Ecuador leg of South America trip after calling for new ecological, economic order

Pope Francis wraps up the first leg of a three-nation South American pilgrimage Wednesday after issuing an impassioned call for a new economic and ecological world order where the goods of the Earth are shared by everyone, not just exploited by the rich.

Francis will visit the elderly and give a pep talk to local priests before flying to Bolivia, where the environment, ministering to the poor and the government's tense relations with the Catholic Church are high on the agenda.

Bolivian President Evo Morales, an Aymara Indian known for anti-imperialist and socialist rhetoric, will greet Francis at the airport and join him for a speech to local officials and diplomats before the pontiff goes to the Bolivian city of Santa Cruz. The stop in La Paz is being kept to four hours to spare the 78-year-old pope from the taxing 4,000-meter (13,120-foot) elevation.

Francis and Morales have met on several occasions, most recently in October when the president, a former coca farmer, participated in a Vatican summit of grassroots groups of indigenous and advocates for the poor who have been championed by Francis. Their shared views on the need for wealthy countries to drastically change course to address climate change bump up against Morales' anti-clerical initiatives that have roiled relations with the local church.

Taking up the global warming issue in Quito on Tuesday, Francis pressed the arguments made in his headline-grabbing encyclical earlier this month that the planet must not be exploited by the wealthy few for short-term profit at the expense of the poor.

"As stewards of these riches which we have received, we have an obligation toward society as a whole and toward future generations," Francis said. "We cannot bequeath this heritage to them without proper care for the environment, without a sense of gratuitousness born of our contemplation of the created world."

His call was particularly relevant for Ecuador, a Pacific nation that is home to one of the world's most species-diverse ecosystems but is also an OPEC country heavily dependent on oil extraction.

He delivered the challenge in back-to-back speeches at Catholic University and a meeting with business leaders and indigenous groups, the latter of which have championed his encyclical.

"The goods of the Earth are meant for everyone, and however much someone may parade his property, it has a social mortgage," Francis said. "The tapping of natural resources, which are so abundant in Ecuador, must not be concerned with short-term benefits."

Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa has been harshly criticized by environmentalists and indigenous groups for pushing mining and oil drilling in the Amazon, which together with the Galapagos Islands give Ecuador an unrivaled designation as one of the Earth's environmental priorities. That push, coupled with high crude prices, allowed Correa to lift 1.3 million people out of poverty in his eight years in office.

Francis has called for environmentally responsible development, one that is aimed at helping the poor without sacrificing the planet. The oil industry and its supporters, particularly in the U.S., have criticized the pope's anti-fossil fuel campaign as irresponsible and uninformed.

Francis is likely to repeat his message in Bolivia, South America's poorest country. Morales has been hailed as an environmental hero to many for demanding rich nations do more to halt global warming, but he has been assailed by conservationists at home who say he puts oil and gas extraction ahead of clean water and forests.

The pope will spend the rest of his Bolivian stay in Santa Cruz, where he will headline another summit of grassroots groups and visit with inmates at the notoriously violent Palmasola prison. After that he is going to Paraguay.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/08/pope-wraps-ecuador-leg-south-america-trip-after-calling-for-new-ecological/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 09, 2015, 11:38:03 am
http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/07/06/pope-francis-god-has-instructed-me-to-revise-the-ten-commandments/
7/6/15
Pope Francis: God Has Instructed Me to Revise the Ten Commandments

Posted on July 6, 2015 by Hobbus
GUAYAQUIL, Ec. – Pope Francis kicked off the start of a three-nation trip across South America today with his first mass, with over a million Ecuadorians in attendance, in the coastal city of Guayaquil. Delivering the mass in Spanish, the Pope spoke about the importance of family in modern society, saying, “It needs to be helped and strengthened, lest we lose our proper sense of the services which society as a whole provides.”

During his sermon, Pope Francis announced to Christians around the world that God had called upon him, instructing him “to revise the most sacred of texts, the Ten Commandments.” Given to the Israelites by God himself at Mount Sinai, the Commandments include instructions for worship and list several prohibited practices.

Pope Francis said Christians around the world are “faced with ever-increasing temptations brought on by the evils of modern society.” The Pope said the updated Commandments reflect the changing times and include some minor rewording of the existing rules as well as the addition of two new Commandments.

The Fourth Commandment, which advocates that proper respect be shown towards one’s parents, has been reworded in order to include children raised by same-sex parents. Pope Francis said the Seventh Commandment, prohibiting adultery and, among other things, homosexuality, has been removed entirely, as instructed by God, in order to extend “God’s grace to all His children.”

Addressing the inclusion of the new Commandments, which bring the total number to eleven, Pope Francis praised the rapid growth of technology in the digital age but said “progress comes at a price.” The new Fifth Commandment, which replaces the prohibition of adultery, forbids all aspects of genetic engineering and bans the consumption of genetically modified foods.

Lastly, the Eleventh Commandment disallows personal idolization and the glorification of one’s self over God. Using the Kardashians, a highly publicized celebrity family, as an example, Pope Francis said, “Selfies are an abomination in the eyes of our Lord.”

A spokesman for the Vatican, Father Federico Lombardi, said the Eleven Commandments are currently being etched into marble by an Italian sculptor and, upon completion, will be unveiled to the world in Saint Peter’s Square following an internationally televised mass.


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Post by: Mark on July 10, 2015, 06:50:03 am
http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/07/06/pope-francis-god-has-instructed-me-to-revise-the-ten-commandments/
7/6/15
Pope Francis: God Has Instructed Me to Revise the Ten Commandments

Posted on July 6, 2015 by Hobbus
GUAYAQUIL, Ec. – Pope Francis kicked off the start of a three-nation trip across South America today with his first mass, with over a million Ecuadorians in attendance, in the coastal city of Guayaquil. Delivering the mass in Spanish, the Pope spoke about the importance of family in modern society, saying, “It needs to be helped and strengthened, lest we lose our proper sense of the services which society as a whole provides.”

During his sermon, Pope Francis announced to Christians around the world that God had called upon him, instructing him “to revise the most sacred of texts, the Ten Commandments.” Given to the Israelites by God himself at Mount Sinai, the Commandments include instructions for worship and list several prohibited practices.

Pope Francis said Christians around the world are “faced with ever-increasing temptations brought on by the evils of modern society.” The Pope said the updated Commandments reflect the changing times and include some minor rewording of the existing rules as well as the addition of two new Commandments.

The Fourth Commandment, which advocates that proper respect be shown towards one’s parents, has been reworded in order to include children raised by same-sex parents. Pope Francis said the Seventh Commandment, prohibiting adultery and, among other things, homosexuality, has been removed entirely, as instructed by God, in order to extend “God’s grace to all His children.”

Addressing the inclusion of the new Commandments, which bring the total number to eleven, Pope Francis praised the rapid growth of technology in the digital age but said “progress comes at a price.” The new Fifth Commandment, which replaces the prohibition of adultery, forbids all aspects of genetic engineering and bans the consumption of genetically modified foods.

Lastly, the Eleventh Commandment disallows personal idolization and the glorification of one’s self over God. Using the Kardashians, a highly publicized celebrity family, as an example, Pope Francis said, “Selfies are an abomination in the eyes of our Lord.”

A spokesman for the Vatican, Father Federico Lombardi, said the Eleven Commandments are currently being etched into marble by an Italian sculptor and, upon completion, will be unveiled to the world in Saint Peter’s Square following an internationally televised mass.

This is a false story.

FACT CHECK:   Did Pope Francis announce during a sermon that God had instructed him to change the Ten Commandments?

Claim:   Pope Francis announced during a sermon that God had instructed him to change the ten commandments.


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    I recently read an article that said Pope Francis is rewriting the Ten Commandments. Is this true?

Origins:   On 6 July 2015, the entertainment web site Real News Right Now published an article reporting that Pope Francis announced during a sermon that he had been instructed by God to change the Ten Commandments:

    During his sermon, Pope Francis announced to Christians around the world that God had called upon him, instructing him “to revise the most sacred of texts, the Ten Commandments.” Given to the Israelites by God himself at Mount Sinai, the Commandments include instructions for worship and list several prohibited practices.

    Pope Francis said Christians around the world are “faced with ever-increasing temptations brought on by the evils of modern society.” The Pope said the updated Commandments reflect the changing times and include some minor rewording of the existing rules as well as the addition of two new Commandments.

    The Fourth Commandment, which advocates that proper respect be shown towards one’s parents, has been reworded in order to include children raised by same-sex parents. Pope Francis said the Seventh Commandment, prohibiting adultery and, among other things, homosexuality, has been removed entirely, as instructed by God, in order to extend “God’s grace to all His children.”

While Real News Right Now does not contain a disclaimer identifying it as a fake news web site, the above-quoted story is just that: another piece of fake news.

Real News Right Now has published a number of fictional news items, including an article about President Obama’s stripping Texas of statehood and an article about President Obama’s banning the possession of Confederate flags.

The biggest indicator that Real News Right Now is a fake news publication comes from the site’s “About” page, where author R. Hobbus J.D. brags about winning fictional awards such as the “Oscar Mayer Award for Journalistic Excellence” and the “Stephen Glass [a journalist notorious for falsifying news stories) Distinction in Journalistic Integrity.”

Last updated:      7 July 2015

Originally published:     7 July 2015

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 10, 2015, 10:38:14 pm
http://time.com/3953591/pope-francis-bolivia-speech/
Pope Francis Isn’t Holding Back—And U.S. Politicians Should Watch Out
7/10/15

Here are the four foundations of his revolution

If it wasn’t clear before, it is now: Pope Francis is no moderate. In what some are calling a “nearly revolutionary” speech, Francis gave a 55-minute papal tour de force in Bolivia Thursday night calling for a “structural change” to a global economy that runs “counter to the plan of Jesus.”

Francis and his predecessors have issued strong calls for global economic structural reforms before, but Thursday night’s address to the poor of Bolivia went above and beyond. “The future of humanity does not lie solely in the hands of great leaders, the great powers and the elites,” he said. “It is fundamentally in the hands of peoples and in their ability to organize. It is in their hands, which can guide with humility and conviction this process of change. I am with you.”

If his September address to the U.S. Congress looks anything similar, House Speaker John Boehner and leaders of both parties might regret their invitation to the 78-year-old Jesuit pontiff. Here are the four foundations of his revolution.

1. Land, lodging, and labor are “sacred rights.” In what is perhaps his boldest claim to date, Pope Francis argued that everyone has a God-given right to have a job, to own land, and to have a home. This, of course, is neither the promise nor goal of current economic systems established in the U.S. and around the globe. This also goes well beyond the traditional social teaching of the Catholic Church, which argues for the dignity of work, but doesn’t go as far to say that everyone has a God-given right to have a job.

2. People—not profits—must be the center of the global economy. Lambasting unbridled capitalism as a “subtle dictatorship” and the “dung of the devil,” Francis argued that when the “unfettered pursuit of money rules,” that “the service of the common good is left behind.” Francis called on the people to counter this: “Let us say no to an economy of exclusion and inequality, where money rules, rather than service. That economy kills. That economy excludes. That economy destroys Mother Earth.”

3. We can’t wait for change. In his recent encyclical, Pope Francis said that, “doomsday predictions” about the environment “can no longer be met with irony or disdain.” On Thursday, he argued the same could be said of economic injustices: “Time, my brothers and sisters, seems to be running out; we are not yet tearing one another apart, but we are tearing apart our common home.” To address this economic situation, Francis argued that people must not be afraid to say “we want change.”

4. Lasting change must begin from below. The pope argued that structural change won’t be the “result from any one political decision.” Change from below works, the pope said, because when people get “caught up in the storms of people’s lives,” they are deeply moved and compelled to act.

Pope Francis’s speech didn’t reek of socialism, communism, or Marxism, but of a radical commitment to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. “Working for a just distribution of the fruits of the earth and human labor is not mere philanthropy,” the pope said. “It is a moral obligation. For Christians, the responsibility is even greater: it is a commandment. It is about giving to the poor and to peoples what is theirs by right.”

If Pope Francis can sway Congress on this idea, then perhaps the world will begin to believe what so many of the poor already know: Francis truly is the vicar of that poor man who came two millennia ago to save his people.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 19, 2015, 09:46:13 pm
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-entrusts-south-america-to-mary-29424/
Pope entrusts South America trip to Mary

Vatican City, Jul 19, 2015 / 09:14 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Francis entrusted his recent tri-nation voyage to South America to Our Lady of Guadalupe – praising the deeply-rooted Christianity in these countries, but also noting the social and economic challenges.

“To the maternal intercession of the Virgin Mary, whom the whole of Latin America venerates as Patron by the title Our Lady of Guadalupe, I entrust the fruits of this unforgettable Apostolic journey,” the pontiff said.

He made his remarks on Sunday to the large crowds who had gathered in Saint Peter’s Square for the weekly Angelus, despite the heat wave currently sweeping through Rome.

It's the Pope's first Angelus address since returning from his July 5-13 trip to Ecuador, Bolivia, and Paraguay.

Drawing from the Gospel reading, the Argentine-born pontiff said he had asked the Good Shepherd to accompany him on his recent trip to the continent of his birth.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 20, 2015, 05:50:21 am
Pope Francis denounces Bill of Rights, says only his personal body guards should own guns

Millions of people around the world have embraced a recently released encyclical by Pope Francis that focuses a great deal of attention on so-called climate change, capitalism and other forms of political, economic, and environmental policy.

Most of what the pope wrote was readily accepted by a great number of people, while others criticized it for its seeming acceptance of environmental science that has yet to actually be settled and economic models that have brought prosperity to a greater portion of the planet than at any time in its history.

In recent days, however, the pontiff said something that has roiled a large segment of American society and left many U.S. Catholics wondering whether the Holy See really represents them anymore.

As reported by a news site called the Sleuth Journal and Reuters, Pope Francis observed that weapons makers could never call themselves Christians in comments to young people at a large rally in the Italian city of Turin.

Are they even Christians?
"If you trust only men you have lost," he told the crowd in a long, often rambling talk about war, trust and politics, after ditching aside his prepared remarks.

"It makes me think of ... people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a[sic] distrust, doesn't it?" he said to applause.

He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying "duplicity is the currency of today ... they say one thing and do another," Reuters noted.

So, what does the pontiff – who is always guarded by a company of armed bodyguards and Vatican City security personnel – say about the American right to keep and own firearms, as recognized by the Second Amendment?

Not much that is good or positive.

A year ago, the pontiff warned that human traffickers, slave traders and weapons makers would have to answer to God on their Judgment Day. He was particularly harsh toward weapons makers and dealers, alleging they are not interested in the word of God because they "fabricate death, they are merchants of death and make death into a trade."

His new criticism in Turin now suggests that gun dealers, gun makers and, by extension, gun owners, are not even Christian, noted Natasha Noman at PolicyMic.

Perhaps Americans should not be surprised given that the Catholic Church embraces the Ten Commandments, one of which is "Thou shalt not kill."

Fewer guns in private hands until they are no longer allowed
In practical terms, however, the Vatican has regularly opposed private firearm ownership. In 2011, the National Catholic Reporter noted that though there are few overt statements from the Church regarding private firearms ownership, the reality is that the Vatican is quite clear on that position:

The Catholic Church's position on gun control is not easy to find; there are dozens of speeches and talks and a few documents that call for much tighter regulation of the global arms trade, but what about private gun ownership?

The answer is resoundingly clear: Firearms in the hands of civilians should be strictly limited and eventually completely eliminated.

That won't be clear, judging by the dearth of public statements and headlines detailing the Church's position, which derives a great deal of funding from American Catholics, many of whom are constitutional conservatives. In fact, the NCR noted that the Church's position is cloaked in a footnote in a document on crime by the U.S. Bishops' conference while being mentioned in dozens of official Vatican texts on the global trade of arms.

The most direct statement, NCR reports, comes in the bishops' "Responsibility, Rehabilitation and Restoration: A Catholic Perspective on Crime and Criminal Justice," published in November 2000.

"As bishops, we support measures that control the sale and use of firearms and make them safer -- especially efforts that prevent their unsupervised use by children or anyone other than the owner -- and we reiterate our call for sensible regulation of handguns," it says, as reported by NCR.

Sources:

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050443_Pope_Francis_gun_control_Vatican.html#ixzz3gQZrtIjX


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 25, 2015, 07:43:59 pm
http://time.com/3970300/presidential-election-pope-francis-politics/

Many candidates—Catholic or not—are seeking ways to tie themselves to the pope's vision

To get elected in 1960, John F. Kennedy, a Catholic, was forced to tell the nation that he wouldn’t take orders from the pope. In 2016, no such separation will be needed. With a record number of Catholics seeking the presidency and the wildly popular Pope Francis visiting the nation this fall, many candidates—Catholic or not—are seeking ways to tie themselves to the mission and vision of this Argentinian pontiff.

The times have changed. With a Catholic vice president, six Catholic Supreme Court justices, a Catholic Speaker of the House, and a large number of Catholics in Congress, the golden age of Catholicism in American politics has arrived. This would have been unimaginable just a few decades ago. Kennedy was the first Catholic president. Irish-Catholic Al Smith likely lost the 1928 campaign because of his religion.

This ascendency of Catholics to the forefront of American politics has only been accelerated by the groundbreaking papacy of Francis. His September trip to the U.S. will be a major event of the 2016 presidential primaries.
 
Politicians and candidates are likely scheming how they can best utilize the pontiff’s first trip to the U.S. to push forth their agendas. Francis’s trip isn’t about politics, but it would be naïve to ignore the political implications of a visit during which he is expected to lift up his recent encyclical letter on the care for God’s creation, the religious obligation to defend the dignity of immigrants, the poor, and the unborn, and the moral scandal of social inequality and of an economy that kills.

The political pinnacle of his trip will be his Sept. 24 address to Congress. If his recent trip to Bolivia is any indication, the 2016 candidates better pay attention. Since the beginning of his tenure, Francis has asked politicians around the world to change the conversation from horserace political issues to core issues that are foundational to the common good: “I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor! It is vital that government leaders and financial leaders take heed and broaden their horizons.”

This will be a message that will push candidates of all political stripes to challenge their parties’ political ideologies that too often are rooted in radical individualism. “The pope offers a message that is inspiring and challenging,” says John Gehring, the Catholic program director at Faith in Public Life, and author of an upcoming book about Pope Francis. “He is making new again what is ancient religious teaching about the common good at a time when our politics and culture are shaped by a libertarianism on the left and right.”

If polling data released Thursday showing support for Pope Francis’s messages is any indication, following the way of Francis isn’t just a ticket to heaven but maybe to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, too.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 29, 2015, 09:06:57 am
Why So Many People Think Pope Francis Is the Antichrist

If you type "is Pope Francis antichrist" into Google, you'll get about 425,000 results in .37 seconds. By way of comparison, if you ask Google the same question about Pope Benedict you only get 137,000 and it takes a little longer—.47 seconds.

So why do so many people think—or at least ponder—that the Latin American pontiff is the Antichrist (or at least the end-time False Prophet mentioned in Revelation 19:20)? It could be for some of the same reasons his popularity is declining. His approval rating in the United States has dropped from 76 percent a year ago to 56 percent today, according to Gallup.

Indeed, even Roman Catholics are cooling off to Francis, the first-ever Jesuit pope who emerged as a darling among the evangelical community when he took over for the retiring Benedict. Some Pentecostal onlookers suggested he was Spirit-filled. And Kenneth Copeland and James Robison met privately with the pope in Rome and exchanged high-fives.

So what gives? Reuters' Scott Malone points out: "The decline comes as Francis has changed the focus of his public remarks from that of his immediate predecessors, concentrating less on the Church's opposition to abortion and gay marriage and spending more of his time discussing social inequity and poverty."

Francis has been vocal about the evils of capitalism while backing off conservative views about homosexuals, asking, "Who am I to judge?" He's even called for a New World Order more than once. Some predict he will usher in this New World Order on Sept. 25, just 10 days after the end of the Shemitah year, which has a swirl of speculation about economic collapse around it.

Meanwhile, Francis has warmed up to Islam like no other pope before him. In a historic first, Francis opened the door to Muslim prayers and Quran readings at the Vatican last year. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli President Shimon Peres joined the pontiff in the Vatican gardens for a prayer meeting.

At that time, Francis said: "It is my hope that this meeting will mark the beginning of a new journey where we seek the things that unite, so as to overcome the things that divide. Peacemaking calls for courage, much more so than warfare. It calls for the courage to say yes to encounter and no to conflict." Some saw this as a precursor to the one world religion.

Protestant feathers really got ruffled when the washingtonpost.com.co and others falsely reported that Francis said the Quran and Holy Bible are the same:

"Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Jehovah, Allah. These are all names employed to describe an entity that is distinctly the same across the world. For centuries, blood has been needlessly shed because of the desire to segregate our faiths. This, however, should be the very concept which unites us as people, as nations, and as a world bound by faith. Together, we can bring about an unprecedented age of peace, all we need to achieve such a state is respect each others beliefs, for we are all children of God regardless of the name we choose to address him by. We can accomplish miraculous things in the world by merging our faiths, and the time for such a movement is now. No longer shall we slaughter our neighbors over differences in reference to their God."

Although it seems unlikely that the pope actually said that (I could not independently confirm it from mainstream media sources, only Internet rags that tend to publish misleading information) the fact that so many Christians took it as truth without a second blink is telling. He's said and done enough other shocking things to make this statement believable in the ears of many believers.

Could Francis be the final pope before Christ's return? Could he be the Antichrist? Is he the False Prophet? The chatter continues.

Here's what we know: More than 50 years ago, a Jesuit priest predicted the resignation of Pope Benedict—to the day—and now Tom Horn, who worked with Cris Putnam to unveil a 900-year-old prophecy buried in the library at the Vatican that describes a series of 112 popes, and others are looking at his research. "Was he divinely inspired? Was he demonically inspired?" Horn asks. "Because we know demons know things about times and dispensations, too."

These are strange days in which we live. How do you feel about the Pope's stand on homosexuality, Islam, capitalism and the New World Order?

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/watchman-on-the-wall/50752-why-so-many-people-think-pope-francis-is-the-antichrist


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 04, 2015, 10:15:50 pm
http://www.rt.com/news/311527-pope-mass-cuba-guevara/
Pope to conduct Cuba mass next to iconic Che Guevara portrait
Published time: 4 Aug, 2015 11:13

Workers in Cuba are building an altar for Pope Francis' landmark visit next month, during which he will deliver a mass in Havana. The structure will be located to the left of a giant image of Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara.

The pontiff's visit, scheduled for September 19-22, will include a mass in Havana's Plaza de la Revolucion, AFP reported. The square is bordered on one side by the Interior Ministry, which showcases a 36-meter (118 foot) sculpted outline of Guevara's face.

The image is based on the famous 1960 photograph of Guevara, captured by Alberto Korda. The picture has been reproduced worldwide on posters and T-shirts.

Guevara, a symbol of Marxist revolution, fought alongside Fidel Castro to overthrow dictator Fulgencio Batista in the 1959 Cuban Revolution. He was captured and executed in Bolivia in 1967, at the age of 39.

Pope Francis will not be the first pontiff to conduct a mass near the image, however. John Paul II and Benedict XVI also gave masses near the Guevara portrait during trips to Cuba in 1998 and 2012, respectively. Francis' mass will take place on September 20.

The visit will take place just two months after Pope Francis was praised by Cuba and the US for his role in the restoration of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

However, Francis has downplayed his role in the historic thaw, saying last month that “we did hardly anything, only small things...there was a desire that had arrived – on the other side also a desire,” AP reported.

"It was the goodwill of the two countries, and the merit is theirs. The merit is theirs for doing this," the pontiff added.

Francis' visit to Cuba will be followed by a US visit to Washington, New York, and Philadelphia. One of his most anticipated events will take place on September 24, when he will become the first pontiff in history to make an address before US Congress.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on August 10, 2015, 04:47:45 am
Christians Burn While Pope Worries about “Worldly” Matters

Just saying... Catholics ARE NOT CHRISTIAN!

    Although the Egyptian constitution stipulates equality before the law, the judiciary refuses the testimony of Christians against Muslims in courts. Islamic law maintains that the testimony of an “infidel” cannot be accepted against a Muslim.

    Al Azhar University in Egypt continues to incite Egypt’s Muslims against Christians. Most recently, the university was exposed distributing a free booklet dedicated to discrediting Christianity. It is full of direct attacks on Christianity in general and the nation’s Coptic Christians in particular. Islam is hailed as the true and superior religion. No mention of violent Islamic conquests is made.

    More than 200 girls, mostly Christian, remain missing in Nigeria after Boko Haram kidnapped them in 2014. Escapees testify that some were told to slit the throats of Christians and to carry out suicide attacks. Girls who cannot recite the Koran are flogged.

    The “lawyers” of a Christian man imprisoned in Pakistan on the charge of desecrating the Koran last May are actually working against him. Faisal’s lawyers officially canceled the request for bail, previously submitted by other lawyers.

    Christians and others in the southern Philippines say they fear that legislation meant to create an Islamic sub-state — legislation meant to appease Islamists — will only create more extremism against Christians. Critics say it would render the federal government powerless to redress human rights abuses under Islamic law. In some areas, violence has been increasing, including trademark Islamic attacks on churches and nuns.

In June, Pope Francis released his first independent encyclical. It merely served to highlight the indifference to the plight of persecuted Christians around the world.

The Pope warned about issues dealing with the environment, but he did not once mention the plight of persecuted Christians — even though he is well acquainted with it, and even though previous popes mentioned it when Christians were experiencing far less persecution than they are today.

Encyclicals are formal treatises written by popes and sent to bishops around the world. In turn, bishops are meant to disseminate the encyclical’s ideas to all the priests and churches in their jurisdiction, so that the pope’s thoughts might reach every church-attending Catholic.

If the plight of persecuted Christians had been mentioned in the encyclical, bishops and the congregations under their care would be required to acknowledge it. Perhaps a weekly prayer for the persecuted could be institutionalized, keeping the plight of those Christians in the spotlight so that Western Catholics and others would remember them, talk about them, and, perhaps most importantly, ask why they are being persecuted. Once enough people were familiar with Christian persecution, they could influence U.S. policymakers — for starters, to drop those policies that directly exacerbate the sufferings of Christian minorities in the Middle East.

Instead, Pope Francis apparently deemed it more important to issue a proclamation addressing the environment and climate change. Whatever position one holds concerning these topics, it is telling that the pope — the one man in the world best placed and most expected to speak up for millions of persecuted Christians around the world — is more interested in speaking up for a “safe” (politically correct, if scientifically questionable) subject, “the world” itself, rather than the pressing bloodbath in front of him, or a topic requiring real leadership from a Christian authority.

Meanwhile, Christians around the world and the Muslim world especially continue to be persecuted and slaughtered. In one little-reported story, the Islamic State burned an 80 year-old Christian woman to death in a village southeast of Mosul. The elderly woman was reportedly burned alive for refusing to comply with Islamic law.

In east Jerusalem, a group calling itself the “Islamic State in Palestine” distributed fliers threatening to massacre all Christians who failed to evacuate the Holy City. The leaflets, which appeared on June 27, said that the Islamic State knows where the city’s Christians live, and warned that they have until Eid al-Fitr — July 19, the end of Ramadan — to leave the city or be slaughtered. The leaflet was emblazoned with the Islamic State’s black flag.

In Egypt, after a foiled suicide attack on the ancient temples of Karnak in Luxor (a tourist destination), the Islamic State promised a “fiery summer” for Egypt’s Christian Copts. Abu Zayid al-Sudani, a leading member of the Islamic State, tweeted: “The bombing of Luxor, a burning summer awaits the tyrant of Egypt [President Sisi] and his soldiers, and the worshippers of the cross. This is just the beginning.”

The rest of June’s roundup of Muslim persecution of Christians around the world includes, but is not limited to, the following accounts, listed by theme.

Muslim Attacks on Christian Churches and Cemeteries

Turkey: On June 9, a Muslim man attacked a church in the Kadıköy district of Istanbul with a Molotov cocktail, setting the building’s door on fire. In a video of the attack, the man is seen shouting “Allahu Akbar” [“Allah is Greater!”] and “Revenge will be taken for Al-Aqsa Mosque” as he throws a firebomb at the Hagia Triada Orthodox Church. The man was eventually detained by police.

Egypt: A bomb was placed alongside the Virgin Mary Coptic Christian Church in Helwan, part of Greater Cairo, but the security services managed to dismantle it before it exploded.

France: On June 7, two Muslim men were arrested by French authorities in connection to a thwarted terror plot to attack a church near Paris last April. Authorities said they had detained Sid Ahmed Ghlam, a computer science student, who had planned an attack on churches in Villejuif, south of Paris, and is suspected in the killing of a woman nearby. Documents in Arabic mentioning al-Qaeda and the Islamic State were found during a search of Ghlam’s home. Several military weapons, handguns, ammunition, bulletproof vests and computer and telephone hardware were also found in Ghlam’s home and car.

Zanzibar: Muslims on the majority-Muslim island harassed and persecuted two churches:

1) They drove Pastor Philemon, a father of five, into hiding and took over his New Covenant Church’s worship hall by getting the landlord to rent it to them before the church’s lease ended. Once a congregation of 100, members now number 25. “The church faithful are so scattered,” said Philemon. “Some members are always knocking at my door requesting a place for worship.” The pastor is also helping care for several converts from Islam who fled their homes after persecution, and he is struggling financially to help them while also providing for his own family, which includes five children.

2) Just outside Zanzibar City, in Chukwani, Muslims made false land claims to bleed dry a church with legal costs. Said Pastor Lukanula: “The Muslims are waiting for the time when we shall fail to attend the court hearing, implying losing the case and subsequently having to pay a substantial amount of money.” Before the false claims were made, regarding ownership of the land, the leader of a local mosque told the pastor, “We do not want to see a church building here in Chukwani.” In 2007, Muslims in the area had demolished the original structure under construction.

Iraq: The Islamic State posted notices around the captured city of Mosul announcing that the Syriac Orthodox Cathedral Church of St. Ephrem, seized a year ago, was to be become the “mosque of the mujahedeen,” or “jihadis.” The new name was announced on the anniversary of the date the church had been seized. The Islamic flag stating the shehada (“there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger”) was draped over the building. “If they changed a church to a mosque it is further proof of their cleansing,” said the president of A Demand for Action, a group advocating the protection of minorities in the Middle East. “They destroy our artefacts, our churches and try to erase us in any way they can.”

REST at http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/46552/christians-burn-while-pope-worries-about-worldly-matters-opinion/#RxDFtBifLsDfpK63.99


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on August 31, 2015, 03:55:33 pm
Pope blesses lesbian authors for their “excellent Christian values”

Pope Francis has reportedly pronounced two “married” women  fruitful, with excellent Christian values.

Lesbian author Francesca Pardi, who writes and publishes books such as “Why you have two mummies“, wrote to Pope Francis after the publishing company she runs with her wife came under fire from Christian groups.

Now she is getting a Papal blessing and well wishes.  Should she also maybe get the Gospel message? And the truth about what the Bible says about sin?

    Pope Francis has sent his blessing to a lesbian author of children’s books dealing with same-sex families, wishing her and her wife well in their work, it emerged on Friday.

    As Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject, the author told AFP she had been pleasantly surprised to have received such a positive response.

    Francesca Pardi, who writes and publishes books such as “Why you have two mummies”, wrote to Francis in June after the publishing company she runs with her wife came under fire from Christian groups.

    She included examples of her works, some of which have recently been controversially withdrawn from nurseries and primary schools by a new mayor in Venice.

    “My books present different types of families without setting any of them up as a model,” Pardi told AFP, praising the pope for having responded in a manner that showed “respect and dignity” towards her, her wife and their four children.

    “It was not important for me that it was the pope who said it, I am not a Catholic. But it is important to see that we are not up against a wall. A dialogue is possible,” she added.

    “Books are to be opened, to be read and to be criticised. What you don’t do is ban them.”

    In his message, the pope wished the two women “ever more fruitful work in the service of young generations and in spreading authentic human and Christian values.”

    Francis has signalled that he wants the Church to adopt a more pragmatic and understanding approach to the situation of believers living in gay relationships, an attitude reflected in his famous “who am I to judge” remark on the subject.

    But proposals to integrate a shift to a more welcoming tone into the conclusions of an ongoing Church review of its teaching on the family have been opposed by conservatives.

    Bishops from around the world will return to the subject at a Vatican synod in October which will seek to find a compromise on that and other divisive issues.

    Pardi and her partner got married in Spain. Italy is the only major western European country that has no provision for same sex couples to have their unions legally recognised. The centre-left government has pledged to enact legislation introducing the possibility of civil unions by the end of this year but there are no plans to legalise gay marriage.

Source: Click here
http://bereanresearch.org/pope-blesses-lesbian-authors-for-their-excellent-christian-values/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 31, 2015, 09:18:02 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mi1o1CFqbU


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 01, 2015, 08:04:50 am
Pope tells priests to pardon women who have abortions

Pope Francis on Tuesday called on priests to pardon women who have abortions, and the doctors who perform them, during the upcoming Jubilee year -- overruling hardline traditionalists within the Catholic Church.

"I have decided, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, to concede to all priests for the Jubilee Year the discretion to absolve of the sin of abortion those who have procured it and who, with contrite heart, seek forgiveness for it," he said.

In a message outlining special measures for the Jubilee, Francis said he knew that while "the tragedy of abortion is experienced by some with a superficial awareness... many others... believe that they have no other option".

The Argentine pontiff said he was "well aware of the pressure" that some women were under to abort, adding that he had "met so many women who bear in their heart the scar of this agonising and painful decision".

The 78-year-old, who has repeatedly urged the Church to show greater compassion, said priests should use "words of genuine welcome", as well as making sure those involved were aware of "the gravity of the sin committed".

Francis announced earlier this year a Jubilee year -- traditionally a time for remission and forgiveness -- which will run from December 8 to November 20 and be celebrated not only in the Vatican but in dioceses across the world.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-tells-priests-pardon-women-abortions-110936598.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 03, 2015, 08:36:04 pm
http://observer.com/2015/09/midtowns-giant-mural-of-pope-francis-is-a-holy-sight/
Midtown’s Giant Mural of Pope Francis Is a Holy Sight The mural promotes the Pope’s visit to New York City later this month By Justin Joffe | 09/02/15 4:58pm Read more at: http://tr.im/PwRsI

A 180-foot mural of Pope Francis appeared in midtown this week (Photo: Justin Joffe for Observer). Some say that when searching for inspiration, you need only look up the sky. And with a 180-foot tall mural of the Pope painted on the side of a skyscraper debuting this week, perhaps the suggestion is no longer just a spiritual metaphor. The giant mural, which depicts Pope Francis smiling and waving, is sprawled across the south façade of 494 Fifth Ave, visible from 34th street and Penn Plaza. Designed by artist and Catholic convert Van Hecht-Nielsen, 41, and commissioned by the Diocese of Brooklyn, the giant Pope Francis is a bold and bright sight to behold, even among the hustle and bustle of Midtown. The mural promotes the Pope’s arrival in New York City as part of his American tour on September 24, and the massive mass he will lead across the street at Madison Square Garden the following night. At first, it seemed only a few passers busy New Yorkers caught sight of the giant Pope. “To be honest, I didn’t even notice it,” said Kim Lee, 52, after the Observer drew her attention to the 180-foot-tall mural. “I’m not Catholic, so it doesn’t really do anything for me. But it doesn’t offend me either.” A solicited sampling of other pedestrians yielded similar responses. Those who weren’t rushing from place to place, however, had taken notice of the large-scale rendering of the Pope Francis. One man was particularly impressed with the level of detail that went into painting the visage of his holiness. (Photo: Justin Joffe for Observer) “How professional,” said Martin, 43, before remarking on the daring of several men who were suspended high up in the air to make final touches to the Pope’s face. “I’m going to take a picture and send it to my mother.” He added the mural made him proud to be a Catholic. Moments later, another man also stopped to photograph the mural and share it with his family. “I’m sending it to my wife and daughter,” said Geraldo, 44. “They’re in Mexico.” Several nondenominational people found that they were moved by the giant Pope, too. ” I come out of Penn Station every day and you never see that sort of thing here, so it’s definitely inspirational,” said Dominic McGee, 24, who is not a Catholic. “I’m not religious altogether, but this guy is different.” “For a Pope, he’s different.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 07, 2015, 01:20:04 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-release-annulment-procedures-tuesday-122022876.html
Pope to release new annulment procedures Tuesday
9/7/15

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Tuesday will release new streamlined procedures for annulling marriages after he — and thousands of Catholics before him — complained that the church's current system is cumbersome, costly and often unfair.

Francis will release the new rules after a Vatican-appointed commission of canon lawyers spent the past year studying ways to simplify the process while safeguarding the principle of the indissolubility of marriage, the Vatican said.

Catholic doctrine holds that a church marriage is forever. An annulment is a judgment by a church tribunal that the marriage had some inherent defect from the start. Reasons vary, including that the couple never intended their marriage to last or that one of the spouses didn't want children.

Catholics have long complained that it can take years to get an annulment, if they can get one at all. Costs can reach into the hundreds or thousands of dollars for legal and tribunal fees.

Without the annulment, divorced Catholics who remarry outside the church are considered to be adulterers living in sin and are forbidden from receiving Communion — a dilemma at the core of a current debate roiling the church.

Francis has already called for annulments to be free, saying all Catholics have the right to justice from the church. He has also said the church should take into account that ignorance of the faith can be a reason to declare a marriage invalid.

Francis has previously quoted his predecessor as Buenos Aires archbishop as saying half of the marriages that are celebrated are essentially invalid because people enter into them not realizing that matrimony is a life-long commitment.

Some of the proposals for streamlining the process have included removing the mandatory appeal for each annulment granted. A key member of the study commission, Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio, has said he favors letting individual bishops make the decision rather than a full-fledged, three-member tribunal.

Many dioceses in the developing world don't have annulment tribunals. The United States has so many that it often accounts for half of all the world's annulments each year.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 09, 2015, 10:49:56 am
Conservative dissent is brewing inside the Vatican

On a sunny morning earlier this year, a camera crew entered a well-appointed apartment just outside the 9th-century gates of Vatican City. Pristinely dressed in the black robes and scarlet sash of the princes of the Roman Catholic Church, Wisconsin-born Cardinal Raymond Burke sat in his elaborately upholstered armchair and appeared to issue a warning to Pope Francis.

A staunch conservative and Vatican bureaucrat, Burke had been demoted by the pope a few months earlier, but it did not take the fight out of him. Francis had been backing a more inclusive era, giving space to progressive voices on divorced Catholics as well as gays and lesbians. In front of the camera, Burke said he would “resist” liberal changes — and seemed to caution Francis about the limits of his authority. “One must be very attentive regarding the power of the pope,” Burke told the French news crew.

Papal power, Burke warned, “is not absolute.” He added, “The pope does not have the power to change teaching [or] doctrine.”

Burke’s words belied a growing sense of alarm among strict conservatives, exposing what is fast emerging as a culture war over Francis’s papacy and the powerful hierarchy that governs the Roman Catholic Church.

rest: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-conservative-revolt-is-brewing-inside-the-vatican/2015/09/07/1d8e02ba-4b3d-11e5-80c2-106ea7fb80d4_story.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 15, 2015, 04:44:57 am
Pope Blames Refugee Crisis on 'God of Money,' 'Socio-Economic System That Is Bad, Unjust'

In an interview with Portugal-based Radio Renascença aired yesterday, Pope Francis declared that the current refugee crisis in Europe is being caused by a “bad, unjust” socio-economic system that worships “the god of money.”

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/pope-blames-refugee-crisis-god-money-socio-economic-system-bad-unjust#.puzrpl:gEin

 :D  ::) somebody is really out of touch with what is going on in Syria...


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 15, 2015, 05:51:10 am
Pope Francis the False Prophet

    "Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It's up to YOU, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and your religious act like religious."  - Archbishop Fulton Sheen

Claims where religion is professed become easily strained when doctrines conflict. Wars have been waged over matters of belief, while actually fought over political power. When the Catholic Church becomes the topic of discussion, the historic differences between Protestant dominations and the Papacy often become passionate. However, disputes within the Catholic Church hierarchy can become most bitter. Attitudes towards Pope Francis vary widely. Before examining the facts, why are so many observers proclaiming that this Pontiff is the False Prophet of Revelation?

One does not have to be a believer to acknowledge the significance of prophecy throughout cultures and centuries of time. Bible verses about False Prophets are cited amply in scripture.

Specific reference to Pope Francis is analyzed by Dr. Kelly Bowring lists of 12 Prophecies That Indicate Trouble Ahead for Papacy, and writes, “The Church will know the hour of its great apostasy. The man of iniquity will penetrate into its interior and will sit in the very Temple of God, while the remnant which will remain faithful will be subjected to the greatest trials and persecutions.” Adding to this viewpoint is a quote by Fulton J. Sheen, which provides a prophetic warning:

“The False Prophet will have a religion without a cross. A religion without a world to come. A religion to destroy religions. There will be a counterfeit (Catholic) church. Christ’s (true Catholic) Church will be one. And the False Prophet will create the other. The false church will be worldly, ecumenical, and global. It will be a loose federation of churches. And religions forming some type of global association. A world parliament of churches. It will be emptied of all divine content and will be the mystical body of the Antichrist. The mystical body on earth today will have its Judas Iscariot and he will be the false prophet. Satan will recruit him from among our bishops.”

Dr. Bowring’s argument is critiqued by Jeannie Law.

“Bowring ends the blog with the statement that the Catholic Church may be on the verge of a split caused by apostasy led by their leader. In which there will be two groups, possibly divided into Francis Catholics and Pope Benedict Catholics who led before Francis.”

For an extensive discussion on New World Pope Francis – Fulfilled Prophecies, a second page on Forbidden History is devoted to present and archive the evidence. A critical review is well worth the time.

Pope Francis has conservatives talking schism but are such motivations over abandoning Catholic traditional doctrine or because of his social and political pronouncements?

Critics of the Roman Catholic Church warn about the fact that Jorge Mario Bergoglio is a Jesuit. Don Koenig offers this assessment in the article, Is Jesuit Pope Francis the Antichrist or the False Prophet?

“The end agenda of the Jesuits is to have a one world ecumenical system that is under the control of the Pope. There is good reason to believe that the Jesuits are behind globalist organizations and ideologies. Those that think world events are being orchestrated by a Masonic conspiracy probably should be looking a layer deeper for the Jesuit connection.”

Interjecting a political aspect to an end times forecast is the Jewish radio host, Michael Savage: Pope Francis Like False Prophet 'Directing Mankind To Worship The Antichrist'

“The Pope is a Marxist,” Savage said. “He is a wolf in pope’s clothing, he is an eco-wolf in pope’s clothing, he’s a stealth Marxist in religious garb.”

Savage continued that Francis “sounds just like the false prophet in Revelation, an ecumenical spiritual figure directing mankind to worship the Antichrist.”

“I think it is up to the Catholic people to turn their backs on this Pope before it is too late, before they wake up and find out that they are in chains, this man is a Marxist through-and-through,” Savage said, claiming that he was “picked by the New World Order the way Obama was.”

BREAKING ALL THE RULES addressed the New World Order Pope - Frankie the Fake in this Inherent Autonomy essay. It is important to take away from this subject that competing prophetic nuances and conflicting subtleties do not negate the fundamental disturbing course that the current pope is undertaking.

Listing all the dictums of an apostate pontiff would require its own treatise. The aspect that the global media, liberation theologians, collectivist progressives and godless socialists are so enamored with this pope should cause every traditional Christian believer to condemn this Bishop of Rome.

The mere opposition to the religious direction and political alliances of Pope Francis is not enough. Understanding the authentic doctrine is essential and forgoing the heresy of false dogma is required.

When Christian-Zionists profess their dispensationalist sacrilege and devoted allegiance to a false Israel, the net result is that the true reason to oppose Pope Francis becomes diluted.

The example from Pope Francis Is The 'False Prophet' illustrates the misguided mindset that underpins so much of the confused thinking that has the world in a death spiral from critical thought.

“Evangelical Christians believe that the state of Israel is central to biblical end-time events that will usher in Armageddon, the final apocalyptic battle between the cosmic forces of good and evil. Biblical end-time conspiracy theorists also believe that left-leaning progressives who support the statehood of Palestine and criticize Israel’s policy in the Middle East are part of the coalition of the New World Order (NWO) forces of evil that will fight Israel and Jesus at the Second Coming.”

At the end of the last days, those who follow the pretend prophet will forgo their salvation.

For non believers in the bible, the gospels or even in their divine creator; the reason to cheer Pope Francis might seem reasonable and optimistic. Such a standpoint will only hasten the globalist plan to place the world under the yoke of satanic rule.

The divination in scripture is under attack by the forces of universal governance. The absence of a comprehensive understanding in the history of religion is overwhelming. In another era the Medici chalice might be used to remove a pope. But when the poison drops come from the devil’s hand, the congregation gets the removal of faithful followers of Christ’s gospel.

 When Francis addresses the United Nations and the U.S. Congress, he will have a world-wide audience to spread his Marxist economics and his global warming cult blasphemy.

Reflected from the Conservative dissent is brewing inside the Vatican, it becomes apparent that push back simmers under the surface.

“Conservatives counter that in the climate of rising liberal thought, they have been thrust unfairly into a position in which “defending the real teachings of the church makes you look like an enemy of the pope,” a senior Vatican official said on the condition of anonymity in order to speak freely.”

Is it not the function of a false prophet to teach an apostate version of doctrine? So what should the 1.2 billion proclaimed Catholics do when the current Pontiff goes off the rails from eternal practices?

Judging from the Pope’s public popularity, the throngs of the masses yearn for a message that creates an earthly paradise under the centralization of temporal authority. Missing in this seductive euphoria is that the devil is not just in the details, but that the Devil is actually the administrator of the consolidation of world government.

The temptation to eliminate cultural and national differences to subjugate societies, under an ecumenical regime for the entire planet, is the real meaning of an anti-Christ hell.

Pope Francis has marched to the beat of a Pharisee inspired methodology for a Luciferian controlled earth. If he is not the False Prophet of the apocalypse, he is making a fine effort to apply for the role.

The political significance of the turmoil within the Catholic conclave extends far beyond the walls of the Vatican. As the persecution of Christians accelerates around much of the world, the idea that Francis will be the savior for mankind is preposterous.   

Abandoning the true faith taught by Jesus Christ for social political correctness is a sermon preached by a sorcerer. Francis is more the vicar of Simon Magus than that of our Savior. Beware of the enticement within the liberation theology of a Marxist cleric. The only way to reach redemption is by the grace of God through the blood of Christ’s crucifixion sacrifice.   

The institution of the Catholic Church is less about spiritual salvation, but more about political power. Pope Francis is no John Paul II. Becoming a citizen of the world by deserting faith in God’s revelation is to worship the Tempter.

SARTRE – September 15, 2015

Pope Francis the False Prophet - Part II

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLiVOfHTacYS3qklgCW2ioOcxXkqiFfB0S&v=ZnGq7d_u9p8


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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on September 15, 2015, 06:27:17 am
“I think it is up to the Catholic people to turn their backs on this Pope before it is too late, before they wake up and find out that they are in chains, this man is a Marxist through-and-through,” Savage said, claiming that he was “picked by the New World Order the way Obama was.”

The institution of the Catholic Church is less about spiritual salvation, but more about political power. Pope Francis is no John Paul II. Becoming a citizen of the world by deserting faith in God’s revelation is to worship the Tempter.

The same thing over and over. It's the same stuff I heard from the church building I used to go to. "Obama is the Antichrist and Francis is the False Prophet! They were picked by the New World Order!" They just make these statements because it's convenient. Obama is a socialist president and Francis is a socialist pope, and socialism is wicked so it's convenient to label them the 2 beasts of Revelation. Even though neither meet any of the criteria beyond being against Christ. It's so unbelievably frustrating to me.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 15, 2015, 06:45:04 am
The same thing over and over. It's the same stuff I heard from the church building I used to go to. "Obama is the Antichrist and Francis is the False Prophet! They were picked by the New World Order!" They just make these statements because it's convenient. Obama is a socialist president and Francis is a socialist pope, and socialism is wicked so it's convenient to label them the 2 beasts of Revelation. Even though neither meet any of the criteria beyond being against Christ. It's so unbelievably frustrating to me.

Well, i do not see Obama as the Antichrist. But a claim can be made for the Pope, whomever it is at the time, to be the false prophet.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 16, 2015, 05:31:35 am
Pope draws Admiration from People of Many Faiths

Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
Luk 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.


 People from a variety of religious affiliations have expressed their admiration for Pope Francis who is scheduled to visit the United States beginning September 22.
 
The Pope has made a name for himself by being intentional in engaging with people, humbly serving others, and advocating social reforms.
 
The Pope’s engaging personality and down-to-earth approach to religion have garnered the support of many religious leaders, Catholic and otherwise, according to Christian Today.
 
Baptist pastor Benjamin Corey said he grew up being wary of Catholics, but Pope Francis has changed his mind.
 
"I never imagined that I would find myself connecting with a pope, and even cheering him on, but this is where I have found myself," Corey said, adding that he appreciated how Francis remained humble even though he is the most influential religious leader in the world.
 
Hindu-American Padma Kuppa also voiced her admiration for Pope Francis, commenting on the instance when Francis knelt down to wash the feet of 12 prisoners and a baby.
 
"You're saying, 'I'm humble before you,'" Kuppa said of the gesture. She believes Pope Francis engaged in the humble act to show the world that "no individual is less than him."
 
Muslim Imam Mohamad Bashar Arafat says he also supports Pope Francis. “I see him trying to emulate St. Francis in outreach,” Arafat said. “It is our responsibility as a Muslim community to raise our voices and say thank you.”
 
Even Hollywood actors and actresses approve of the Pope.
 
Lord of the Rings star Viggo Mortensen said, “All in all, he seems to me a lot more humane, more humble--he’s more human than the last pope, certainly. He’s more personal--he’s engaged with people when he speaks.”
 
Pope Francis’s visit to the United States is a highly anticipated event. Millions of people are buying tickets to attend events at which Francis will speak, and in Philadelphia, 25 miles of highway will be closed for traffic control.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/pope-draws-admiration-from-people-of-many-faiths.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 17, 2015, 04:36:29 pm
http://time.com/4038077/the-new-roman-empire/
Pope Francis and the New Roman Empire
9/17/15

From Cuba to climate change, he has revitalized the Vatican’s role in global diplomacy. Now he’s bringing his activist agenda to the U.S.

History sometimes turns on little things– a single bullet, a spy’s blurry photograph–and on Aug. 25, 2014, Cardinal Jaime Ortega y Alamino of Havana arrived at the White House to deliver one such object. Ortega had gone to great lengths to cover his tracks. His name does not appear in official White House visitor logs, and he had even arranged an event at Georgetown University that day to explain his presence in the capital. When he arrived at the West Wing he was quickly shown to a secluded patio outside the Oval Office, where President Barack Obama, White House chief of staff Denis McDonough and two other top aides greeted him.

After dispensing with the formalities, the Cardinal took out a letter from Pope Francis to Obama. Ortega informed the Americans that he had delivered the same message days earlier in person to Cuban President Raúl Castro. And then Ortega began to read the Pope’s words out loud. Francis expressed his support for diplomatic talks the U.S. and Cuba had secretly been pursuing in an effort to end a half-century of hostility. He encouraged the two nations to resolve the issue of prisoners, a key sticking point in negotiations. And he offered the Vatican’s assistance to help the two countries overcome their decades of distrust and confrontation.

Francis’ letter was as simple as that, but it made a difference. Two months later, Obama and Castro took Francis up on his offer, dispatching top officials to the privacy of the Vatican for a five-hour session in which they hammered out the details of an agreement to restore full diplomatic relations. And when Obama and Castro sealed the historic deal by telephone on Dec. 16, 2014, they found common ground expressing their gratitude to the Pope. Most important, the Pope’s letter offered symbolic shelter for both sides as they weighed the political costs of reconciliation. Francis’ popularity as a religious figure in the U.S. gave Obama cover as he cut a deal with godless communists across the Straits of Florida, while the Pope’s credibility as a Latin American shielded Castro as he got in bed with Yankee capitalists. “[The Cubans] were very clear with us that they saw Pope Francis as different from previous Popes,” says Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes, who was present at the meeting with Ortega and the talks in Rome, “because of his stature as the first Pope from Latin America.”

That difference will be on full display when Francis arrives in Cuba on Sept. 19, ahead of a five-day historic visit to the U.S., and it is key to understanding not just who he is but how he is leading the Vatican on the world stage 30 months into his reign. Francis, 78, rose to prominence as a church leader in the unruly world of Latin American politics of the 1960s and 1970s, and his life and outlook are the products of the developing world. He has never been to the U.S., and his only papal trip to a developed Western country so far was a four-hour stopover in France, the shortest ever by a Pope. Instead he has focused on his spiritual base, traveling almost exclusively to so-called Global South nations, including Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Bolivia and Brazil.

That perspective has infused Vatican diplomacy under Francis with the same paradoxical mix of humility and influence that have defined his papacy so far. Nearly a year after Ortega’s visit, Francis shrugged off his role in the U.S.-Cuba rapprochement, even as he credited divine inspiration for his own part in the talks’ successful outcome. “What could I do with these two who have been going on like this for more than 50 years?” he asked reporters on a return flight from Paraguay to Rome in July. “Then the Lord made me think of a Cardinal, and he went there and talked,” Francis said. “We did hardly anything, only small things.”

But Francis’ small things are proving to be a big deal for the rest of the world. Coaxing U.S.-Cuban reconciliation is just the start: the Pope is making the Holy See a player in the most pressing global issues in a way unseen since the early days of Pope John Paul II. From the outset of his papacy he has drawn attention to the Mediterranean migrant crisis, and in early September he called on Catholic dioceses, including parishes in the Vatican, to house refugee families. Francis routinely speaks out about the persecution of Christians in Syria and Iraq as he pushes for action to end the wars there. He praised the controversial nuclear deal between Iran, the U.S. and five other world powers. His 180-page encyclical on the environment has been called “radical” by one prominent environmentalist and has helped make Francis a perceived front runner for the Nobel Peace Prize. And the State Department has asked the Vatican for help on relocating prisoners from the military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, so that it can be closed, a top Obama priority, senior Administration officials tell TIME. Secretary of State John Kerry “early on saw Francis as a potentially activist foreign policy Pope,” says one senior State official.

The Pope’s activism will be put to the test on his visit to the U.S. Rightly or wrongly, the U.S. is seen by many as a wellspring for some of the global ills he has attacked–corporate greed, colonial exploitation, economic inequality–and his pronouncements on everything from climate change to immigration are hot topics in Washington. “He’s put the church into a debate, which is pretty risky,” says Jim Nicholson, U.S. ambassador to the Holy See under President George W. Bush and Pope John Paul II. Francis will meet privately with Obama in the Oval Office, then address a joint session of the U.S. Congress, dominated by Republicans who oppose much of his international agenda and have openly criticized some of his anticapitalist rhetoric. Can Francis, with no army or global financial clout, leverage his popularity in the developing world to influence the great powers, especially the U.S.? “He is trying to figure out where to spend this enormous capital,” says Rhodes. “He has built up this position in the world, and I think he is trying to figure out how to pay it down.”

Francis’ strategy is bold, both on the world stage and within the Vatican. First, he is injecting himself into high-level diplomacy by taking controversial positions on the biggest issues of the day. His climate encyclical–timed to precede the upcoming U.N. Conference on Climate Change in Paris–pleased backers of aggressive action against global warming but worried conservatives. Its scope was wide: it talked about everything from individuals’ air-conditioning use to how environmental degradation is causing poverty and migration. And its language was confrontational. Calling for a “bold cultural revolution,” for example, Francis said the rich and powerful were pushing a model of development based on fossil-fuel consumption that ended up hurting the poor.

In the Middle East, the Pope has alternately pleased and disappointed all sides. His push for the Iran nuclear deal bolstered the White House but angered Israel. The Vatican recognized Palestinian statehood in June, infuriating Jerusalem, but chose not to support Palestinians’ effort to raise their flag at the U.N. before the Pope’s visit there this month.

On Sept. 8 he fast-tracked controversial Catholic marriage-annulment reform to make the process cheaper, faster and local, freeing up time so that bishops headed to a Synod next month in Rome can instead address issues like war and poverty. When violent unrest broke out in Venezuela last year, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s Secretary of State who was previously the Holy See’s ambassador there, mediated talks between President Nicolás Maduro and the opposition that eventually fell apart.

Francis’ willingness to weigh in on hot-button issues is bolstered by his popularity around the world. “His use of what I call the moral megaphone, soft power, is being very effective,” says Nicholson. It helps that Francis is the first Pope to spread his message on social-media platforms. He tweets in nine languages and posts online video messages to Iraqi Christians. When he published his climate encyclical, he tweeted it 140 characters at a time for an entire day, earning tens of thousands of shares. As of last December, Francis was viewed favorably by 84% of those polled in Europe, 78% in the U.S. and 72% in Latin America, according to the Pew Research Center.

At the same time that he is making a splash in public, Francis is quietly altering the established order of papal diplomacy behind the scenes. For decades, the Vatican’s activities on the world stage have been directed by a specialized and highly trained set of church officials within the Roman curia. Francis has relied on his Secretary of State while greatly raising the profile of regional Catholic leaders, as he did by dispatching Ortega to the White House. At least two other Cardinals–Theodore McCarrick, formerly of Washington, and Seán O’Malley of Boston, who is one of Francis’ top advisers–acted as go-betweens at different points between Cuba, the U.S. and the Vatican. Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson led the drafting process for the climate encyclical. The combination of a message of humility and an image as a Vatican disrupter is powerful, church experts say. “Francis has so much moral credibility because of the perception that he’s an outsider to the Vatican,” says Kathleen Cummings, director of Notre Dame’s Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism, “and that he is coming from a different part of the world.”

That Latin American credibility is both hardwired and hard-won. Francis was a rising star in the church in the tumultuous world of right-wing dictatorship and populist Peronism that defined Argentina from the 1950s through the 1970s. His reputation and popularity survived the country’s “dirty war,” when between 10,000 and 30,000 workers, clergy and intellectuals disappeared in anticommunist witch hunts, some of them backed by Washington. A priest who was tortured by the military suggested Francis insufficiently protected him; another reconciled with him over the incident. Other priests said the future Pope worked behind the scenes to free them and to help them flee the country.

Above all, though, Francis’ views are grounded in Catholic social teaching that sees itself as above world systems, offering a corrective to both communism and capitalism. “As idealistic or as utopian as it may sound,” says Scott Appleby, dean of Notre Dame’s Keough School of Global Affairs, “he is siding with the victim, with the poor, with the detritus of international politics, frankly, the people who suffer the mistakes most directly of everything from climate change and corporate exploitation of natural resources to people caught in the cross fire of war.” And in a way most revolutionaries can only dream of, that view of the world from below is becoming his greatest asset as it increases his popularity across national boundaries.

But global popularity can go only so far. In the U.S., Francis’ approval dropped to 59% over the summer as many came to oppose the positions he has taken. While Obama and many Democrats praised the Pope’s climate encyclical, others, like GOP presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Rick Santorum, said he was in over his head. Francis is better off “leaving science to the scientists,” Santorum said. After Francis moved to recognize a Palestinian state, several members of Congress were openly critical. “The Pope is legitimizing a Palestinian state without requiring those who get recognition to recognize Israel as a Jewish state,” said Representative Jeff Duncan of South Carolina.

Within the Vatican itself, there are also some signs of dissent. Internal divisions on the Pope’s agenda are at most whispered in the Vatican, but they are heard, especially as Francis continues to elevate the diverse voices of local bishops from outside Rome. The curia at the Vatican has long been an entrenched Italian, and Western European, stronghold. Francis is making sure more things are done with local languages, people, bishops and concerns in mind. His encyclical features a myriad of local bishops’ conferences instead of relying heavily on doctrinal tomes. Dissent doesn’t surface on clear-cut foreign policy issues like protecting Christians in the Middle East, but it does on controversial ones like Cuba. Some Catholics in Florida, for example, are not happy with the Pope’s role in the U.S. opening to Havana.

Ultimately, many of the world’s problems simply aren’t responsive to the kind of soft power Francis is deploying, and the early results of his diplomatic strategy are mixed. When he visited Israel and the Palestinian territories last summer, he surprised the world by inviting both peoples’ Presidents to Rome for a historic prayer summit. Days after they prayed for peace in the Vatican gardens, Israel launched an offensive on the Gaza Strip. Francis defends his move. “That prayer for peace was absolutely not a failure,” he insisted to journalists as he returned from South Korea in August. “At present the smoke of the bombs, the smoke of wars, does not allow the door to be seen, yet the door has remained open from that moment.”

To his credit, Francis seems aware that opening a door to dialogue is unlikely to be enough in some cases. In Syria and Iraq, Christians face displacement and death as the al-Qaeda offshoot Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) continues to take and hold territory. Francis opposed military strikes in Syria in 2013–he wrote to Russian President Vladimir Putin during a G-20 summit to urge leaders to pursue talks–but in March the Vatican’s U.N. diplomat called for military force against ISIS. A decade of war has cut the Christian population in neighboring Iraq by two-thirds–in 2003 it was 1.5 million; today it is less than 500,000. When ISIS strongholds spread over Iraq last summer, Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Bashar Warda of Erbil had 620 families seeking shelter in his house alone, camping in his cathedral and gardens for two months. The Vatican, Warda says, helped raise $30 million for refugees.

One of the Vatican’s biggest diplomatic prizes, formal relations with China, remains out of reach, but there are signs Francis may be making progress. While the Holy See has long-established official ties with the exiled Chinese government in Taiwan, it has not had formal relations with mainland China for more than 60 years. Last August, China allowed a papal plane to fly in Chinese airspace for the first time when Pope Francis visited South Korea, and Francis sent President Xi Jinping a telegram, as is papal custom when flying over a country. Francis has declined to meet the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalai Lama, although the Dalai Lama visited Rome in December and has been a big supporter of Francis’ environment encyclical. Chinese state television reported favorably on the Pope’s condolences after the chemical-plant explosion in Tianjin in August. China allowed the ordination of a Roman Catholic bishop in a diocese in central China in early August–the first to take place with the Vatican’s approval since 2012.

Even small victories can be short-lived. Vatican officials signed a framework agreement in early 2014 with the government of the small sub-Saharan country of Burundi, guaranteeing the legal status of Catholic doctrine in areas like marriage and church education. But the Burundi Catholic Church’s opposition to a constitutionally prohibited third term for President Pierre Nkurunziza has led to renewed confrontation. “Currently our relationships are not broken, but there is now a real cooling,” says Archbishop Simon Ntamwana of Gitega.

If the world’s toughest challenges are not yet bending to the Pope’s diplomacy, Vatican watchers are riveted by his attempts. One of his first moves as Pope was to replace the scandal-ridden Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, with the astute and youthful Parolin, who has been a behind-the-scenes mover for the Vatican on China, the Middle East and Latin America. “He has selected a good team,” says U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See Kenneth Hackett, and “he knows the issues because he is in constant dialogue with people. He picks up the phone and calls people.”

He is also a keen observer of the internal politics of countries he visits, says Hackett, and that pays off in return, yielding access and influence for his diplomats. So far this year, five top officials from the U.S. State Department have scheduled visits to the Vatican, including Under Secretary Rose Gottemoeller to discuss nuclear issues, Deputy Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and special representative Tom Shannon. In side conversations during the Cuba talks, the Vatican raised concerns to U.S. officials about the persecution of religious minorities, especially in Iraq. When U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Sheba Crocker, who handles U.N. issues at State, visited the Vatican in May to discuss climate change and Pope Francis’ 2015 development goals, her conversation with the Vatican’s deputy foreign minister turned to Burundi.

That in turn means countries are asking Francis for things too. As part of Obama’s efforts to close the military prison at Guantánamo Bay, the Administration has repeatedly sought the Vatican’s help in finding countries that are willing to take prisoners, current and former Administration officials say. And the White House would like to see Francis press the Cubans on democratic reforms and congressional Republicans on lifting the U.S. embargo against the country. When it comes to the diplomatic progress he helped foster between the U.S. and Cuba, Rhodes says, Francis “can point out that the work is not done.”

The same can be said of Francis’ own global agenda. But given his success so far–and the scope of his ambitions–there’s little doubt of this Pope’s ability to use the little things to advance big changes.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 18, 2015, 11:44:41 am
Pope plans to duck dissidents in Cuba, spawning criticism...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150918/cb-cuba-pope-dissidents-b480ea1fdb.html

Praises 'spirit' ahead of visit...
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-praises-cuban-spirit-ahead-visit-083957114.html

Is Francis anti-American?
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-anti-american-071739371.html

House Republican Plans to Boycott Speech...
http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/73344/house-republican-plans-boycott-pope-francis-speech-over-climate-change

Acting like 'leftist politician'...
http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/73344/house-republican-plans-boycott-pope-francis-speech-over-climate-change


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 20, 2015, 04:49:34 am
Holy See flag to be raised outside UN headquarters for Pope Francis' arrival Sept. 25

in-charge of the whole world!!  :o

A United Nations official confirms that the flag of the Holy See will be raised for the first time outside U.N headquarters the morning of Pope Francis' first visit.

It is a turnaround for the Vatican, whose U.N. ambassador has said it had "no intention" of raising the flag before the pope arrives Sept. 25.

The General Assembly last week overwhelmingly approved a Palestinian proposal to raise its flag and that of the Holy See as the U.N.'s two non-member observer states.

The Palestinians have announced a ceremony for their flag-raising Sept. 30 during the annual U.N. gathering of world leaders. But the Holy See flag is set to be raised quietly.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly about the event.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/18/holy-see-flag-to-be-raised-outside-un-headquarters-for-pope-francis-arrival/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 23, 2015, 02:15:33 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/23/pope-francis-gives-hope-gay-catholics/72684606/
9/23/15
Pope Francis gives hope to gay Catholics

WILMINGTON, Del. — Some Catholics who felt church doctrine left them out of the fold are hopeful that Pope Francis is working to make the church more inclusive.

Ed Hotaling had almost given up on the Catholic Church.

The church he attended in Albany, N.Y., was “very, very liberal,” and he felt welcomed even though he was gay.

But when Hotaling attended an Easter Mass after moving to Delaware, the priest emphatically stated that marriage is between a man and a woman.

“I can’t come here if this is the person who is supposed to be giving me spiritual guidance,” said Hotaling.

Hotaling, who lives in Rehoboth, Del., started attending an Episcopal church, where he felt more welcome and could participate in many of the same rites as Catholics.

“I am married to a man, and I’m sure that if he met me (Francis) would say congratulations and be very happy about it.”
Ed Hotaling, a Catholic who had almost given up on Catholic Church
But these days, because of Pope Francis, he’s considering going back.

“I am married to a man, and I’m sure that if he met me (Francis) would say congratulations and be very happy about it,” Hotaling said.

With Francis coming to Philadelphia on Saturday, Hotaling and many others who are gay or who support gay marriage are cheering a church leader they believe is trying to make the church more inclusive.

Francis has grabbed international attention for public statements taking a softer tone on homosexuality. Two years ago, he said “if someone is gay and searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”

Hotaling hopes that tone will allow more Catholic churches to become like the one he attended in Albany.

“I think that, without changing church law per se, but by the way he talks, it will give a lot of churches who might have wanted to move in that direction a sense that the weight has been lifted from their shoulders,” Hotaling said. “Things are evolving probably 50 times faster than I ever imagined as a gay person.”

The church has not officially changed its doctrine on homosexuality or gay marriage. Most who would like to see that change admit it is not realistic to expect an instant shift in an organization as big and old as the Catholic Church.

Lisa Goodman, president of Equality Delaware, points out that Delaware didn’t legalize same-sex marriage on the first attempt. It took years of debate before Gov. Jack Markell signed the law legalizing those marriages last year.

“No change happens and sticks without a conversation that changes hearts and minds first,” said Goodman. “I think our community views Pope Francis as starting a very welcome change in the conversation.”

Steve Elkins, founder of Camp Rehoboth, said he is glad to see a major Christian public figure taking a more inclusive approach to gay rights, especially as some Republican presidential candidates take hardline stances.

“As a Christian and a human being, I like what he’s saying,” said Elkins. “It is very interesting that he is taking those steps, and I’m hoping he is going to turn these words into action.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 24, 2015, 04:57:38 pm
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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 25, 2015, 06:30:02 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unFuH5oEeeM


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 25, 2015, 07:40:46 pm
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awesome!!


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 26, 2015, 03:30:53 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QwBPHu_lRQ


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 28, 2015, 06:27:33 am
‘I Unite Myself’: ‘Pope’ Calls Muslims ‘Brothers and Sisters’ in Message at St. Patrick’s Cathedral

 During a speech at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City on Thursday night, the Roman Catholic pontiff known as Francis offered prayers for his Muslim “brothers and sisters” on the Islamic Feast of Sacrifice following word of a deadly stampede during the annual pilgrimage to Mecca.

“I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters,” he began. “First, I send my greetings as they celebrate the Feast of Sacrifice [Eid al-Adha]. I would have my greeting to have been warmer. My sentiments are closeness.”

“I am close to them in the face of tragedy, the tragedy they suffered in Mecca,” Francis continued. “In this moment, I give assurances in their prayers. I unite myself with you all in prayer to Almighty God, all merciful.”

Approximately 700 people were killed yesterday and nearly 1,000 more injured during a ritual in Saudi Arabia called “stoning the devil,” during which participants throw stones at three pillars in a reenactment of Abraham’s alleged stoning of the devil to avoid temptation—according to Muslim tradition. During the ritual, the large crowds began to surge and some fell and were trampled to death.

Stampedes have occurred during the pilgrimage in years past with hundreds being killed, but Thursday’s incident is considered to be the deadliest since 1990.

Jorge Bergoglio, who was selected as the leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in 2013, has expressed a desire for ecumenicism toward Muslims from the beginning of his tenure, issuing greetings during Muslim holy days.

“Turning to mutual respect in inter-religious relations, especially between Christians and Muslims, we are called to respect the religion of the other, its teachings, its symbols, its values,” he wrote in a 2013 statement during Ramadan.

The pontiff also met with Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the secretary general of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), later that year and visited Turkey’s Blue Mosque last November, expressing reverence during a moment of prayer observed by the nation’s grand mufti, who led him on a tour of the Islamic facility.

Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries of Plano, Texas notes that harmony with Muslims is consistent with Roman Catholic doctrine.

“The Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 841, reads, ‘The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims … together with us they adore the one, merciful God,’” he told Christian News Network. “This is a blatant rejection of the teachings of Christ, who declared He is the only way to the Father. Those who do not believe Jesus is God will die in their sins.”

http://christiannews.net/2015/09/25/i-unite-myself-pope-calls-muslims-brothers-and-sisters-in-message-at-st-patricks-cathedral/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 28, 2015, 06:30:28 am
Presidential Hopefuls Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee Praise ‘Pope’ as ‘Proclaimer of Truth’

 ::) the guy is a LIAR and a snake

Republican presidential hopefuls Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee offered words of praise and support for the Roman Catholic pontiff known as Francis this week as he landed in the United States for a six-day visit.

On Wednesday, a piece penned by Cruz was featured in The Federalist lauding that “n an era when many global leaders are descending to relativism, Pope Francis continues to proclaim the truth.” He extolled the religious leader for his positions on life, family and the persecuted.

“[T]his week presents an historic and a hopeful moment for the nation. Pope Francis is visiting the United States. In stark contrast to media elites and national leaders smothering the truth of life, marriage, and religious liberty, Pope Francis has unabashedly stood for these primary gifts to humanity,” he wrote.

Cruz opined that media outlets would seek to distract the American public “with anything they can to make the pope’s visit divisive.”

“Indeed, there are policy discussions to be had on issues like the environment and U.S. relations with communist countries such as Cuba. These distinctions are important, but let us not forget what we have in common and what this leader of the Church brings to America as a gift to us—his care for the family and his heart of mercy for the most vulnerable,” he stated.

Cruz also expressed his desire for the pontiff to serve as an inspiration to Americans.

“In this Year of Mercy, may Pope Francis’s example inspire us to treat all with charity, pray for those who are persecuted, and speak out for those without a voice,” he said. “It is an honor to meet a man who has lived the faith so selflessly. I thank Pope Francis for his service to God and to the world, and I hope during his visit we are each reminded of our call to see every person with the eyes of Christ."

On Monday, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee chastised Barack Obama for including open homosexuals on his guest list for the pope while likewise speaking favorably of the Roman Catholic pontiff.

“Bring the best and most faithful Catholics you can—people who would give their right arm to be able to meet his holiness,” he told Fox’s Megyn Kelly. “I’m not Catholic, but I have great respect for the Catholic Church and for the pope, and when he comes to America, it’s only fitting that we put out the very best kind of welcome possible…”

When Kelly asked Huckabee if Obama might be seeking to present an opportunity to expose Francis to different views, Huckabee said a summit would be a better setting for such a desire, but even then it would still be questionable.

“I’m not sure that President Obama needs to school and lecture Pope Francis on Catholic doctrine and why he’s wrong. Last time, I checked, it’s the pope who is supposed to lecture Christians, not the other way around,” Huckabee continued. “Unless Obama now has decided that he really has a greater depth of theology and a better understanding of Scripture than the pope himself…”

Last year, Huckabee joked to reporters that “[m]aybe we should run the pope for president.”

But in a post this week asking whether the pope should be “praised or exposed,” Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries said that it is dangerous to extol those who preach false doctrine.

“Instead of praising him this week, we should be exposing the pope for being a pawn of the devil. Some may think I am unloving and harsh for saying this but the truth must be told for the sake of those who are being deceived,” he wrote. “The gospel the apostles preached was salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone according to Scripture alone for the glory of God alone. The pope’s gospel is salvation by sacraments, good works, law keeping and participating in the offering of a false Christ on Catholic altars.”

Gendron, a former Roman Catholic who now leads an evangelistic ministry to reach Catholics, said he hoped Christians would use the pontiff’s visit to preach the truth of God’s word.

“I have great compassion for the precious Catholic souls who are where I was for many years of my life—believing I was in the one true Church, but unknowing deceived and destined for the eternal fires of Hell,” he said. “The nature of deception is that people do not know they are deceived until they are confronted with the truth. It is my prayer that every blood bought Christian will faithfully proclaim the true gospel to Catholics this week.”

http://christiannews.net/2015/09/25/presidential-hopefuls-ted-cruz-mike-huckabee-praise-pope-as-proclaimer-of-truth/


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 28, 2015, 09:28:39 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pope-francis-world-leader_56041e79e4b00310edfa4d0f
Pope Francis Wants To Be President Of The World
OK, that's not a real job, but he is seeking to lead the global conversation.

9/24/15

WASHINGTON -- He hasn't announced his candidacy.

Indeed, the job he seeks doesn't really exist.

But shrewdly, methodically and with a showman's flair, the soft-spoken, 78-year-old Argentinian Jesuit priest named Jorge Mario Bergoglio -- Pope Francis -- showed Thursday that he is running to become president of the planet.

He did so in a congressional ceremony of secular civic pomp in a massive legislative building that, after all, harks back to ancient Rome. 

As devout as he is, and as focused on the faith and practice of the Catholic Church, Francis is also campaigning to lead public, secular, political discourse worldwide. He is arguing that the two realms of faith and politics are one, and that the moral and spiritual teachings of faith should inform and guide political decisions for "our common home."

This is not a new idea, but it seems again a timely one. Francis' own church sorely needs the refreshing input of world opinion. Secular leaders, meanwhile, are reviled and government itself seems to have lost any sense of moral purpose.

With the rope-line skills of Bill Clinton and the stagecraft mastery of Ronald Reagan, Francis is selling himself and his message in Washington like the political master that he is.

In his speech to the U.S. Congress -- the first ever delivered by a pope -- he never directly mentioned abortion. He defended the "family," but didn't specifically define it by gender or sexual preference. He didn't speak of an assault on traditional Catholic or even Judeo-Christian culture.

That is so yesterday.

Instead, Pope Francis gave a 45-minute secular homily to Congress on the need for American lawmakers to honor communal morality drawn from the Catholic social gospel. In U.S. political terms, it was as if this man clad in simple white robes was leader of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

He beseeched U.S. lawmakers -- and, by extension, government leaders around the world -- to use their temporal power to lift up those in extreme poverty, to fulfill promises of racial equality, to make peace with former ideological enemies, to welcome immigrants with open arms, to end arms sales and to save the ecology of the planet.

Francis singled out for praise and emulation Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr., Dorothy Day and Thomas Merton. It was a roster of heroes who, taken together, provide a template for government action on behalf of the dispossessed.

His approach draws on his roots. As a youth in Argentina, he had admired Juan Peron, whose brand of paternalistic, personality-cult socialism propelled him to power with increasingly enthusiastic backing of the Catholic Church. Today, Francis skillfully wields social media and his own popularity.

The pope's challenge to Congress was theoretically bipartisan -- indeed, universal -- in nature.

But if conservatives in the House chamber had expected at least a few nods in their direction, they received next to none. Republicans applauded and stood politely when necessary. But it wasn't their context, and, in purely political terms, he isn't their pope. For Southern Republicans, it's hard to imagine a less palatable list of heroes than the ones Francis listed.

The first pope from the Americas arrived in the United States just as its next presidential contest takes center stage, and he plunged right in to the debate, hitting on climate change, immigration and the refugee crisis.

Politically speaking, his "common good" theme has a sound defensive side: Moving the subject away from abortion, sexual orientation and gay marriage could also downplay the church's own controversial record on matters of priestly behavior.

But the new emphasis on economics, race and social justice has another, broader aim: to win new converts in the developing world by offering to lead the armies of the poor and disadvantaged. To put it another way, he's taking the church back to its original base.

Francis knows the demographics: In Latin America, Africa and elsewhere, the Catholic Church is in competition with Islam and Evangelical  Protestantism.

The pope wants to win that battle, and Washington was one more stop on the campaign tour.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 29, 2015, 05:30:54 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQQ11jWuoI


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 29, 2015, 03:13:02 pm
The Name of Jesus Christ, of whom Francis claims to be the “vicar” of, was never mentioned one time in any way, shape or form

“I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.” John 5:41,42 (KJV)

Pope Francis says some amazing things, but he rarely says them in an amazing way. He speaks with a low, weak voice, mostly in Italian, and can be hard to follow even through the interpreter. So like all of you, I did not latch onto to the explosive thing he said in his opening remarks of his speech at the United Nations. From a prophecy perspective, which is the only angle we really are concerned with, his words are literally off the charts.

While surfing around today on the official UN site of the Holy See, I found an article called Address Of His Holiness Pope Francis To The General Assembly Of The United Nations, and clicked on it. There I found the official Vatican transcript, prepared and approved by the Vatican, of the remarks Francis made in his UN speech over the weekend. When I read the first few lines, I thought I was dreaming, there is no way he actually said that. But, there it was, officially transcribed and approved at the highest level of Vatican authority.

https://youtu.be/LtPu1-CxhHA

Jesus in the fifth chapter of John, is talking about the difference between the true representative of God on Earth, Himself, and the Satanically-produced counterfeit of the Antichrist and the False Prophet. In verse 43, Jesus utters these astounding, prophecy-packed words:

“I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” John 5:43 (KJV)

He is ultimately referring to a time, far in the future, when someone would come claiming to represent God, but actually coming in his own name, with his own unGodly agenda. Now, listen to what Pope Francis said as he said these words on Rosh Hashanah, in front of a gathering together of nations of the world:

    “Thank you for your kind words.  Once again, following a tradition by which I feel honored, the Secretary General of the United Nations has invited the Pope to address this distinguished assembly of nations.  In my own name, and that of the entire Catholic community, I wish to express to you, Mr Ban Ki-moon, my heartfelt gratitude.  I greet the Heads of State and Heads of Government present, as well as the ambassadors, diplomats and political and technical officials accompanying them, the personnel of the United Nations engaged in this 70th Session of the General Assembly, the personnel of the various programs and agencies of the United Nations family, and all those who, in one way or another, take part in this meeting.  Through you, I also greet the citizens of all the nations represented in this hall.  I thank you, each and all, for your efforts in the service of mankind.” source

Pope Francis said that “I come in my own name” and that of the “entire Catholic community”. Not as a representative of Jesus Christ, not as an ambassador of the Gospel, but Francis stated that he came in his own name, his own power, and that of his Roman church. Rome the place and people that killed Jesus on the cross. The same cross that Francis said “ended in failure.” The Name of Jesus Christ, of whom Francis claims to be the “vicar” of, was never mentioned one time in any way, shape or form. What on Earth could possibly possess him to say that he “comes in his own name”? Then I read the end of the transcript, and it all clicked in.

Francis ended his speech with these words:

“Upon all of you, and the peoples you represent, I invoke the blessing of the Most High, and all peace and prosperity.”

Which “most high” was the Pope referring to? When I read my Bible, I see another “most high” lurking in the pages of Scripture:

“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Isaiah 14:14 (KJV)

I see the counterfeit “most high”, you know, the one that “comes in his own name”.

Open up your Bible, find a blank spot next to John 5:43, take a pen and write “FULFILLED” in margin.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=36011


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 29, 2015, 10:58:09 pm
Not that I endorse Hellywood movies - but they always release a 2 minute trailer of a movie several months before it is released.

Looks like we're seeing just that - a TRAILER PREVIEW before the 7 year period...albeit we won't be here when the movie gets released.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 05, 2015, 01:20:59 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmeP3Z9X8eg


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 07, 2015, 09:23:08 am
http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-miracle-healing-has-begun-believes-new-york-girl-in-wheelchair-146899/
Pope Francis' 'Miracle' Healing Has Begun Believes New York Girl in Wheelchair
10/5/15

A 12-year-old girl from Brooklyn, New York, has said that she is on the road to recovery after Pope Francis met and blessed her during his visit to the city in September. The girl, Julia Bruzzese, said she believes in miracles, and thinks the meeting with the pontiff has greatly helped her.

Fox News reported on Sunday that Bruzzese had been forced to use a wheelchair after she suffered a sudden paralysis that doctors could not explain. While she had been apparently experiencing symptoms of Lyme disease, there had been no signs of the disease in her blood.

Bruzzese and her mother reportedly got to meet the pope at JFK Airport during a greeting.

"He looked me right in the eyes; I kissed his hand and thanked him, and I walked away [saying] 'she's gonna be okay,'" said Julia's mother, Josephine Bruzzese.

CBS News reported last week that the girl said meeting Francis was "the most precious moment of my life."

Five days later, doctors were able to detect Lyme disease in Bruzzese's blood, which meant a diagnosis and proper treatment.

"The miracle has begun," said the 12 year old. "Yesterday, I went to the doctor and for the first time they saw Lyme disease activity in my blood, and that just shows a miracle can happen if you believe, just like I did. If you believe and pray everything can happen."

In another interview with NBC New York, Buzzese said she is confident she will walk again one day. "It means that he's going to give me a miracle to walk again," the girl said. "I know I will walk again because of him."

It is the second time in recent weeks that Francis has been credited with performing a miracle. In September, an American couple from Arizona claimed that a blessing from the pontiff in 2014 healed their 3-month-old daughter's heart condition.

The Cassidy family had traveled to Rome in 2014 in hopes of seeing the pontiff in person during the canonization of John Paul II and John XXIII. After waiting hours in the rain at the barricade at St. Peter's square, Scott Cassidy lifted his daughter, Ave, to Francis, who was passing by in his popemobile. The pontiff reportedly asked about the girl's condition and gave her his blessing.

"When we got home in May, we went back to the cardiologist for a check-up. One of the holes was completely closed and one was half the size," revealed the child's mother, Lynn Cassidy.

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Matthew 18:8  Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 08, 2015, 05:05:40 pm
POPE FRANCIS WARNS BISHOPS OF MASSIVE VATICAN CONSPIRACY TO INFLUENCE SYNOD
Geoffrey Grider | October 8, 2015 | 9 Comments

POPE WARNS OF VATICAN SKULLDUGGERY AND MACHIAVELLIAN MANEUVERS ALONG THE WAY

“And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4 (KJV)

Vatican City – Pope Francis has warned bishops at a global Church meeting on the family not to be taken in by conspiracy theories, as conservatives and liberals reportedly engage in Machiavellian attempts to manipulate the synod.

Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi on Thursday confirmed reports that the pontiff had warned Catholic bishops and cardinals behind closed doors on Tuesday not to get caught up in “the hermeneutic of conspiracy”.

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Skullduggery afoot? You bet’cha…
This comes amid concerns within the conservative camp that new methodology being used in the three-week synod — approved by Francis — favors the liberal wing who want the Church to be more welcoming to homosexuals and remarried divorced people.

There were rumours in the run-up to the summit that a preliminary synod on the family last year was “rigged”, with progressives publishing without warning an early report seen as revolutionary in its opening to lesbian and gay believers.

The draft text was spiked by enraged conservatives, but reports that the agenda this year has been stitched up to make sure the most contentious issues will not be discussed until the last moment — when no-one has the time or energy left to argue — have fuelled fresh fears.

“There seems to be a mounting tendency on all sides to suspect skullduggery and underhanded tactics,” Vatican expert John Allen wrote in Cruxnow ahead of the start of the synod last week.

Indeed, he warned, in the end “the synod may be defined not just by disagreements on substance, but also suspicions of Machiavellian manoeuvres along the way“.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=36288


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 18, 2015, 02:48:48 pm
Pope Francis Makes Stunning Defense Of Islam As ‘Peaceful Religion’

Pope Francis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong and called on Muslim leaders to issue a global condemnation of terrorism to help dispel the stereotype.

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) – Francis, the leader of 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, told reporters aboard his plane returning from a visit to Turkey that he understood why Muslims were offended by many in the West who automatically equated their religion with terrorism.

Francis’ predecessor, Benedict XVI, caused storms of protest throughout the Islamic world in 2006, when he made a speech that suggested to many Muslims that he believed Islam espoused violence.

Benedict said he had been misunderstood and apologized. But this year, the image of a violent religion has once more been promoted by Islamic State, who have seized swathes of Syria and Iraq, slaughtering or driving out Shi’ite Muslims, Christians and others who do not share their radical brand of Sunni Islam.

The Argentine pope, who has been trying to foster cooperation with moderate Islam in order to work for peace and protect Christians in the Middle East, said it was wrong for anyone to react to terrorism by being “enraged” against Islam.

Read the rest of the story on Yahoo News…

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=28628


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 19, 2015, 09:15:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6iVk56brX0


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 20, 2015, 10:31:49 pm
http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/pope-francis-is-now-effectively-at-war-with-the-vatican-if-he-wins-the-catholic-church-could-fall-apart/
Pope Francis is now effectively at war with the Vatican. If he wins, the Catholic Church could fall apart
10/18/15

Pope Francis yesterday gave an address to the profoundly divided Synod on the Family in which he confirmed his plans to decentralise the Catholic Church – giving local bishops’ conferences more freedom to work out their own solutions to the problems of divorce and homosexuality.

This is the nightmare of conservative Catholic cardinals, including – unsurprisingly – those in the Vatican. They thought they had a sufficient majority in the synod to stop the lifting of the ban on divorced and remarried Catholics receiving communion, or any softening on the Church’s attitude to gay couples.

But in yesterday’s keynote speech, delivered as the synod enters its last week, Francis told them that the decentralisation will be imposed from above.

While deliberately referring to himself as ‘Bishop of Rome’, to underline his solidarity with local bishops everywhere (as opposed to the Roman Curia – i.e., ‘the Vatican’), he invoked the power of the Supreme Pontiff to overrule mere cardinals. ‘The synod journey culminates in listening to the Bishop of Rome, called to speak authoritatively as the Pastor and Teacher of all Christians,’ he said. This is more authoritarian language than I can remember Benedict XVI using as pope. It means: I call the shots. In the end, you listen to me, not the other way around.

One statement in particular horrified the conservatives. Francis told them that ‘the sense of faith impedes the rigid separation between the Teaching Church and the Learning Church, because the flock possesses its own “sense” to discern the new roads that the Lord reveals to the church…’ Meaning? We shall have to wait until the Pope delivers a final response to the synod next year.

This is such a startling development that it deserves fuller analysis once the synod is over. I was going to say ‘once the dust has settled’, but I don’t expect any dust-settling in the foreseeable future – at least until after the next conclave, which lots of conservative Catholics want to happen as soon as possible.

Here’s why I think Francis’s decentralisation won’t work:

1. This is the synod at which the African church flexed its muscles. And it’s very conservative. Cardinal Robert Sarah from Guinea declared that the gay lobby was as much a threat to Christianity as ISIS. Sarah is Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and therefore a top-ranking curial cardinal. But in his ‘intervention’ he wanted us to understand that he was speaking on behalf of nearly 200 million African Catholics. Whether he really represents them is a matter of opinion, but I doubt that many of them would dissent from the cardinal’s (literal) demonisation of homosexuality. NB: Sarah and other African cardinals aren’t saying ‘We’ll never tolerate communion for the divorced and remarried etc – but so long as you leave us alone, western dioceses can do their own thing’. They are saying the existing prohibitions must apply to the entire Catholic Church. Sarah regards Cardinal Kasper’s proposal to allow local bishops (meaning, in practice, local priests and probably divorcees themselves) to decide whether they can receive the sacrament as heretical.

2. The more liberal Synod Fathers, sensing that Pope Francis will use the papal trump card on their behalf, have all but endorsed a version of the Kasper plan – and may soon allow priests to put it into practice. Archbishop Blaise Cupich of Chicago (a Francis appointee who will soon be a cardinal) gave a press conference on Friday in which he said the following about communion for the divorced and civilly remarried: ‘[People must] come to a decision in good conscience…Conscience is inviolable and we have to respect that when making decisions and I’ve always done that.’ If by that he means that divorced Catholics can make up their own minds ‘in good conscience’ about receiving the sacrament, that puts him at odds with Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, one of the signatories of a letter also signed by senior Vatican cardinals warning the Pope that his synod could tear the church apart. Of all the routes to schism, squabbling in public about Holy Communion is the quickest.

3. Pope Francis is no longer trusted by many conservative Catholics, and the number who don’t trust him has grown enormously since the synod process – which I think he has gravely mismanaged – began last October. Priests and lay Catholics who originally liked the man if not his liturgical style, and thought he was fundamentally conservative despite his impromptu ‘who am I to judge?’-style comments, now believe he threatens the unity of the church. Some liberals agree that disunity is inevitable but reckon the Holy Spirit has already factored that in: eventually, Africans will come to share their own compassionate impulses towards Catholics who have been forced by the turmoil of modern life to bypass church teaching on sexual behaviour. They’re hoping for a miracle, in other words. In the meantime, they have become the new ultramontanists.

4. It’s not entirely clear what the Pope means when he talks about ‘synodality’, but it certainly doesn’t involve empowering the curia. By brushing aside a letter from the prefects of the Congregations of the Doctrine of the Faith, the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Secretariat for the Economy, Francis was distancing himself from the Vatican. He may not have decamped to Avignon, but his refusal to live in the papal apartments is looking more significant by the day. He has picked a fight with the Vatican – and that is something popes do at their peril. Cardinals Müller, Sarah and Pell (and other important cardinals too nervous to sign the letter) see the curia as the guardian of the Magisterium, the deposit of faith. It was to preserve that deposit that St John Paul II centralised the church. Conservatives interpret Francis’s speech on Saturday as a manifesto for reversing that process – and, at a deeper level, marginalising the legacy of John Paul, which contains teachings hard to reconcile with the current pope’s agenda. So, in their eyes, Francis is taking on the greatest pope in modern history – who, now that he has been canonised, is officially recognised as a supernatural presence in the life of the church. He may even be trying to change the nature of the papacy itself – and during the lifetime of his predecessor, who must be wondering whether God really intended him to resign.

There are other things to say about the impact of Francis’s attempted revolution on secular and religious divisions that are widening outside the church, all over the world. But that’s for another time. My final thought is that, if the Pope wants to make far-reaching changes to pastoral practice, even to doctrine, then there are smarter ways of achieving this than by hosting a catastrophically divided synod and then hinting that he intends to do his own thing anyway.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 21, 2015, 09:55:39 am
Vatican denies report pope has small, curable brain tumor
10/21/15
http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-denies-report-pope-small-curable-brain-tumor-071137564.html

VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican on Wednesday categorically denied a report in an Italian newspaper that Pope Francis has a small, curable brain tumor, saying he is in good health and that his head is "absolutely perfect."

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the report Wednesday in the National Daily was "completely unfounded and seriously irresponsible and not worthy of attention."

Citing unnamed nursing sources, the National Daily said the 78-year-old pope had traveled by helicopter to the San Rossore di Barbaricina clinic near Pisa in recent months to see a Japanese brain cancer specialist, Dr. Takanori Fukishima. The newspaper said the doctor determined that the small dark spot on Francis' brain could be treated without surgery.

In subsequent versions, the paper reported that Fukishima had instead come to the Vatican to see the pope in a Vatican helicopter. The ANSA news agency, citing unnamed sources in Pisa, said the trip was in January and that Fukishima had traveled by helicopter to the Vatican to diagnose the pope.

Lombardi categorically denied the reports to reporters Wednesday, and said he was doing so after having spoken to the pope himself about them. He said no Japanese doctor had visited the pope, no tests of the type described in the paper had been performed and that no helicopters had landed in the Vatican from the outside.

"I can confirm that the pope is in good health," Lombardi said. "If you were in the piazza this morning you would have seen that as well. And if you go on the trips with him, you know he has a small problem with his legs, but his head is absolutely perfect."

The newspaper's editor, Andrea Cangini, said it stood by its story. Subsequent versions of the report said Fukushima had traveled to the Vatican by helicopter and was seen returning to the Pisa clinic in the Vatican's chopper.

The hospital's director didn't respond immediately to a request for comment.

Cangini said the paper had deliberated a long time before publishing the news, which it said it had confirmed months ago.

The publication, however, comes at a delicate time for Francis, in the final days of his hotly contested synod on the family, which has shown a split among conservative and liberal bishops over how to convey the church's teachings on marriage, sex, homosexuality and other issues.

Several conservative bishops and cardinals have complained that the synod, which Francis called, is creating confusion and "anxiety" about the church's teachings.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 22, 2015, 03:30:09 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/at-vatican-synod-outreach-pushback-and-stuggles-over-soul-of-the-church/2015/10/22/6da0a5c6-71b9-11e5-ba14-318f8e87a2fc_story.html
Vatican meeting reveals growing Catholic divide over divorce and homosexuality
10/22/15

VATICAN CITY — At one point during a major summit of the Roman Catholic hierarchy that ends this weekend, a senior conservative bishop took the floor inside the Vatican’s assembly hall and promptly charged his liberal peers with doing the devil’s work.

The three-week gathering, known as a synod, has erupted into a theological slugfest over Pope Francis’s vision for a more inclusive church, displaying the most bitter and public infighting since the heady days of Catholic reform in the 1960s.

Archbishop Tomash Peta of Kazakhstan captured the extent of the divide, raising eyebrows — and even a few incredulous laughs — as he decried some of the policy changes being floated at the synod as having the scent of “infernal smoke.”

It was just another day at a synod that — more than any single event since Francis began his papacy in 2013 — has highlighted the extent his outreach to once-scorned Catholics has triggered a tug-of-war for the soul of the Catholic Church. More important, it underscored just how hard it may be for Francis to recast the church he serves in his image.

In fact, the pushback by traditionalists has been so strong at the synod that the chances of fast changes on hot-button family issues — including whether to offer communion to divorced and remarried Catholics and more welcoming language to homosexuals — have substantially dimmed, if not gone completely out.

As the synod races towards a close, there has been a last-ditch push to find common ground that could at least open the door to policy alterations. But some observers are already comparing Pope Francis to President Obama — a man whose reformist agenda was bogged down by a conservative Congress.

“Francis has the same problem that Obama had,” said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior analyst for the National Catholic Reporter. “He promised the world, but Congress wouldn’t let him deliver. If nothing much comes of this synod, I think people will give the pope a pass and blame the bishops for stopping change.

For Francis, the synod — the Vatican’s second in 12 months on issues related to the family — sets up perhaps the most important decision of his papacy.

The 270 senior church officials from 122 countries are set to finish voting on a final document by Saturday. But Francis has the final say, holding the power to simply accept the synod’s recommendations, go beyond them, or withhold judgment to encourage further debate.

All of those avenues, however, carry a measure of risk.

Using his powers to go beyond the synod’s recommendations could rouse the wrath of conservatives, some of whom are already openly questioning the trajectory of his papacy. Yet if the final recommendation of the synod falls short of liberal hopes, simply rubber stamping it, or encouraging more debate, could generate disappointment among Francis’s fans worldwide. They may begin to see him as a revolutionary in gestures and words, but not on substance.

If he agrees fully with the synod’s recommendations, “there might be a collapse of his popularity in world public opinion, but there might also be an increase of his popularity among Catholics,” said Massimo Franco, author of The Crisis of the Vatican Empire and a columnist at the Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

Even by Vatican standards, the level of drama at the synod has been extraordinary.

As recently as Wednesday, the Vatican strenuously denied a report in the Italian press that Francis had a small brain tumor. That came after the synod started off with a bang in early October, when another leak in the Italian press brought to light a letter to the pope signed by 13 conservative cardinals — including Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York — that seemed to question the pope’s handling of the synod process.

[The Vatican’s conservative caucus]

Adding to the mystery, some of the 13 denied they had signed the letter. Some Vatican watchers saw Francis’s recent warning to the synod not to be taken in by conspiracy theories as a thinly veiled reference to the missive. To some senior Vatican officials, the letter appears close to open sedition.
“The widespread opinion I perceived among the fathers has been a sense of disgust,” Bishop Marcello Semeraro, one of the senior clerics who will draft the final synod document, told the Vatican Insider web site.

Yet by telling bishops that nothing is off the table for discussion, Francis has undoubtedly lifted the lid on what can be examined — including his management style. Conservatives bishops, however, see him as having also opened a Pandora’s box, allowing a free flow of ideas that have startled some traditionalists and provoked a sharp backlash.

Of the many issues under debate here, two have emerged as the most polemic.

One is whether to grant divorced and remarried Catholics — who are technically committing adultery in the church’s eyes — access to communion. In addition, there is the question of whether to offer a warmer welcome to gays and lesbians, including striking references to homosexuality as “intrinsically disordered” from church teachings.

The divide is not just liberal vs conservative, but also geographic with prelates in Africa, for instance, denouncing the “Eurocentric” and “Western” fixation with issues such as homosexuality.

Guinean Cardinal Robert Sarah linked the push for gay rights to abortion and Islamic extremism, comparing them all to what “Nazi-Fascism and Communism were in the 20th century.”

The vehemence of the backlash has shocked even some moderate conservatives, suggesting the rise of a Tea Party-like faction of bishops within the hierarchy.

“Some of them are talking now like this is Armageddon,” Archbishop Mark Coleridge of Brisbane, Australia, said in an interview with The Washington Post.

“They see themselves as the sons of goodness and others as the sons of darkness and evil. I have been very surprised by this apocalyptic view of things at the synod . . . This isn’t the way discussions are done,” he added.


[Behind the scenes of a papal blessing]

The sniping has gone surprisingly public — and personal. The powerful conservative Cardinal George Pell, for instance, suggested in an interview with Le Figaro that an epic “battle” was taking shape in the church between the conservative theology of Benedict XVI and the liberal German Cardinal Walter Kasper, who is seen as a Francis ally and the architect of some of the most progressive measures being fielded at the synod.''

Pell’s comment provoked a rare public rebuke this week from the German Cardinal Reinhard Marx, who called out Pell by name at a Vatican press conference.

“In the synod, we are not in a battle. We are not Ratzinger vs. Kasper,” Marx said, using Pope Benedict’s birth surname.“That is not okay.”

The plot thickened further on Thursday as an article appeared on a conservative Catholic Web site claiming to be from “ a very wise, knowledgeable and highly influential cleric” and entitled “The Failed Francis Pontificate.”

In it, the author writing under the pen name Don Pio Pace and using insider terminology, argues that the divided church is now “intrinsically ungovernable” and decried this “strange synod” for being overwhelming focused on “adulterous couples and homosexual couples.”

Some have also denounced the general sense of chauvinism hanging over the debates in which only male clerics have voting rights.

Maureen Kelleher, an American nun serving in one of the non-voting roles at synod, told the National Catholic Reporter that there were "times that I have felt the condescension so heavy, you could cut it with a knife.”

Speaking of women in general, she added: "I see a high level of non-acceptance of us as holding up half the sky.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 22, 2015, 08:23:05 pm
Pope speeds up Vatican streamlining in surprise synod move

 Pope Francis on Thursday accelerated his streamlining of the Vatican bureaucracy by announcing plans to create a new ministry which will increase the role of lay believers in the Church.

Effectively three existing Vatican bodies will be merged into one in a move that had been trailed but had not been expected to be confirmed during the ongoing synod on Catholic teaching on the family.

Francis made the announcement to an afternoon session of the synod, which is due to conclude at the weekend after three weeks of often heated discussions on issues such as divorce, homosexuality and cohabitation.

"I have decided to establish a new Dicastery (ministry) with competency for Laity, Family and Life," Francis told the assembled bishops and other synod participants.

The new body will replace the Pontifical Council for the Laity and the Pontifical Council for the Family and the Pontifical Academy for Life will be joined to it, he added.

"To this end, I have constituted a special commission that will prepare a text delineating canonically the competencies of the new Dicastery. The text will be presented for discussion to the Council of Cardinals at their next meeting in December."

Francis has already acted to make the Vatican curia -- the Church's senior civil service -- more efficient by creating a super ministry for the economy and another one which deals with media and public relations.

The reforms have sparked resistance amongst the officials affected by the changes. Officially there have been no redundancies but inevitably a number of officials have been sent back to their home dioceses as a result of the changes.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-speeds-vatican-streamlining-surprise-synod-move-215343924.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: RickStudy on October 22, 2015, 08:30:41 pm
The anti christ will persecute apostate Christians right along with the rest. They will abandon their faith because they will think it will enable them to survive.

The Bible said judgement begins at the house of God. So, first the persecution then comes the Day of the Lord. Apostate Christians and Pre tribbers will not be ready for it.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 22, 2015, 10:47:18 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=36564
POPE FRANCIS HAS CATHOLIC CHURCH ON VERGE OF CIVIL WAR OVER LGBT INCLUSION
Geoffrey Grider | October 22, 2015 | 13 Comments

VATICAN MEETING REVEALS GROWING CATHOLIC DIVIDE OVER DIVORCE AND HOMOSEXUALITY

“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9  (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: The Vatican has long said that the Catholic Church “never changes”, but guess what? It is in the death throes of a cataclysmic change at this very moment. Just as Obama made homosexuality and the LGBT Agenda an evil ordinance of the United States, so Pope Francis is attempting to wreak that same unGodly havoc upon the already Godless Catholic church corporation. The ensuing war is splitting the Catholic church right down the middle. Mark it down, there will be blood.

VATICAN CITY — At one point during a major summit of the Roman Catholic hierarchy that ends this weekend, a senior conservative bishop took the floor inside the Vatican’s assembly hall and promptly charged his liberal peers with doing the devil’s work.

The three-week gathering, known as a synod, has erupted into a theological slugfest over Pope Francis’s vision for a more inclusive church, displaying the most bitter and public infighting since the heady days of Catholic reform in the 1960s.

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Archbishop Tomash Peta of Kazakhstan captured the intensity of the divide, raising eyebrows — and even a few incredulous laughs — as he decried some of the policy changes being floated at the synod as having the scent of “infernal smoke.”

It was just another day at a synod that — more than any single event since Francis began his papacy in 2013 — has highlighted the extent his outreach to once-scorned Catholics has triggered a tug-of-war for the soul of the Catholic Church. More important, it underscored just how hard it may be for Francis to recast the church he serves in his image.

In fact, the pushback by traditionalists has been so strong at the synod that the chances of fast changes on hot-button family issues — including whether to offer communion to divorced and remarried Catholics and more welcoming language to homosexuals — have substantially dimmed, if not gone completely out.

As the synod races towards a close, there has been a last-ditch push to find common ground that could at least open the door to policy alterations. But some observers are already comparing Pope Francis to President Obama — a man whose reformist agenda was bogged down by a conservative Congress.

“Francis has the same problem that Obama had,” said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior analyst for the National Catholic Reporter. “He promised the world, but Congress wouldn’t let him deliver. If nothing much comes of this synod, I think people will give the pope a pass and blame the bishops for stopping change.”

FOR FRANCIS, THE SYNOD — THE VATICAN’S SECOND IN 12 MONTHS ON ISSUES RELATED TO THE FAMILY — SETS UP PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION OF HIS PAPACY.

The 270 senior church officials from 122 countries are set to finish voting on a final document by Saturday. But Francis has the final say, holding the power to simply accept the synod’s recommendations, go beyond them, or withhold judgment to encourage further debate. All of those avenues, however, carry a measure of risk.

Using his powers to go beyond the synod’s recommendations could rouse the wrath of conservatives, some of whom are already openly questioning the trajectory of his papacy. Yet if the final recommendation of the synod falls short of liberal hopes, simply rubber stamping it, or encouraging more debate, could generate disappointment among Francis’s fans worldwide. They may begin to see him as a revolutionary in gestures and words, but not on substance.

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If he agrees fully with the synod’s recommendations, “there might be a collapse of his popularity in world public opinion, but there might also be an increase of his popularity among Catholics,” said Massimo Franco, author of The Crisis of the Vatican Empire and a columnist at the Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

EVEN BY VATICAN STANDARDS, THE LEVEL OF DRAMA AT THE SYNOD HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.

As recently as Wednesday, the Vatican strenuously denied a report in the Italian press that Francis had a small brain tumor. That came after the synod started off with a bang in early October, when another leak in the Italian press brought to light a letter to the pope signed by 13 conservative cardinals — including Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York — that seemed to question the pope’s handling of the synod process.

Adding to the mystery, some of the 13 denied they had signed the letter. Some Vatican watchers saw Francis’s recent warning to the synod not to be taken in by conspiracy theories as a thinly veiled reference to the missive. To some senior Vatican officials, the letter appears close to open sedition.

“The widespread opinion I perceived among the fathers has been a sense of disgust,” Bishop Marcello Semeraro, one of the senior clerics who will draft the final synod document, told the Vatican Insider web site.

Yet by telling bishops that nothing is off the table for discussion, Francis has undoubtedly lifted the lid on what can be examined — including his management style. Conservatives bishops, however, see him as having also opened a Pandora’s box, allowing a free flow of ideas that have startled some traditionalists and provoked a sharp backlash.

OF THE MANY ISSUES UNDER DEBATE HERE, TWO HAVE EMERGED AS THE MOST POLEMIC.

One is whether to grant divorced and remarried Catholics — who are technically committing adultery in the church’s eyes — access to communion. In addition, there is the question of whether to offer a warmer welcome to gays and lesbians, including striking references to homosexuality as “intrinsically disordered” from church teachings.

The divide is not just liberal vs conservative, but also geographic with prelates in Africa, for instance, denouncing the “Eurocentric” and “Western” fixation with issues such as homosexuality. Guinean Cardinal Robert Sarah linked the push for gay rights to abortion and Islamic extremism, comparing them all to what “Nazi-Fascism and Communism were in the 20th century.”

THE VEHEMENCE OF THE BACKLASH HAS SHOCKED EVEN SOME MODERATE CONSERVATIVES, SUGGESTING THE RISE OF A TEA PARTY-LIKE FACTION OF BISHOPS WITHIN THE HIERARCHY.

“Some of them are talking now like this is Armageddon,” Archbishop Mark Coleridge of Brisbane, Australia, said in an interview with The Washington Post.

“They see themselves as the sons of goodness and others as the sons of darkness and evil. I have been very surprised by this apocalyptic view of things at the synod . . . This isn’t the way discussions are done,” he added.

The sniping has gone surprisingly public — and personal. The powerful conservative Cardinal George Pell, for instance, suggested in an interview with Le Figaro that an epic “battle” was taking shape in the church between the conservative theology of Benedict XVI and the liberal German Cardinal Walter Kasper, who is seen as a Francis ally and the architect of some of the most progressive measures being fielded at the synod.

PELL’S COMMENT PROVOKED A RARE PUBLIC REBUKE THIS WEEK FROM THE GERMAN CARDINAL REINHARD MARX, WHO CALLED OUT PELL BY NAME AT A VATICAN PRESS CONFERENCE.

“In the synod, we are not in a battle. We are not Ratzinger vs. Kasper,” Marx said, using Pope Benedict’s birth surname.“That is not okay.”

The plot thickened further on Thursday as an article appeared on a conservative Catholic Web site claiming to be from “ a very wise, knowledgeable and highly influential cleric” and entitled “The Failed Francis Pontificate.”

In it, the author writing under the pen name Don Pio Pace and using insider terminology, argues that the divided church is now “intrinsically ungovernable” and decried this “strange synod” for being overwhelming focused on “adulterous couples and homosexual couples.”

Some have also denounced the general sense of chauvinism hanging over the debates in which only male clerics have voting rights.

Maureen Kelleher, an American nun serving in one of the non-voting roles at synod, told the National Catholic Reporter that there were “times that I have felt the condescension so heavy, you could cut it with a knife.”

Speaking of women in general, she added: “I see a high level of non-acceptance of us as holding up half the sky.” source


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 31, 2015, 02:48:11 pm
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=103015231480
Audio Inside Link: Pope Francis Pardons Pedophiles in Legion of Christ Catholic Order
Series:  STBC Pope Watch  · 14 of 14
10/30/2015 (FRI)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 06, 2015, 02:10:04 pm
https://www.rt.com/news/321043-pope-wake-up-album/
Pope pop: Francis' debut album ‘Wake Up!’ out now
Published time: 6 Nov, 2015 11:57

World’s number one catholic, Pope Francis, has released his debut Christian music album in Italy, set to debut internationally on November 27.

Called ‘Wake Up!’, it’s a collection of the pope’s speeches recorded between 2013 and 2015 all over the world, accompanied by music from different Italian artists and producers.

The 11 tracks on the album are recorded in different styles ranging from Latin chant to pop and rock.

Unsurprisingly there are dozens of albums named ‘Wake up’ with one exact match from 2010 by John Legend and the Roots. Don’t get confused: if it’s reggae and soul - it’s dope, not pope.

Musical styles aside, it was the 78-year-old Argentinian’s down-to-earth attitude that inspired the producers to put the album together.

"The idea was born from the moment that Pope Francis came out on the balcony and said 'Dear brothers and sisters, good evening'. With that 'good evening' I saw that this pope was completely different from all the others ,” said producer and artistic director Don Giulio Neroni.

The pontiff’s softer stance on Catholic doctrines has made him extremely popular among Catholics and non-believers alike. Noted for his humane approach, he’s proven to be closer to the public than any other pope before. To top it off, Pope Francis lives in a guesthouse instead of the papal apartments in the Vatican palace.

Ten percent of the proceeds from the album will go to charity supporting refugees, in particular Ethiopians camping near Rome’s Termini station, comingsoon.it reports.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 25, 2015, 09:27:12 pm
Pope Francis calls for unity, links terror to poverty as he launches Africa tour
11/25/15
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-kenya-pope-francis-20151125-story.html
 
Almost as soon as Pope Francis alighted from his flight to Kenya's capital on his first trip to Africa, he sent a powerful message of humility and equality.

The pope stunned Kenyans not only by riding in a modest gray Honda through Nairobi's streets, but also by traveling with the window down, waving to onlookers, eschewing the fancy cars and dark tinted windows favored by local politicians.

“The Honda car that the pope is using. Even an MP of the poorest slum in Kenya would not use it,” tweeted one Kenyan, Gibson Maina.

“If there is a lesson to learn from him is humility. He's so humbled unlike our politicians,” tweeted another, Samuel Kungu.

The Africa tour sees Francis visiting Kenya and Uganda, countries that have suffered deadly attacks from Islamist extremists, as well the Central African Republic, which has been torn apart by violence between Muslims and Christians.

The trip involves plenty of security headaches. But Francis brushed aside such fears in comments to journalists before his departure from Rome.

“To tell you the truth, the only thing I'm concerned about is the mosquitoes,” he said.

He has resisted pressure to cancel the final leg of his tour, an overnight visit to Central African Republic, where sectarian attacks have continued since rebels ousted the government in 2013. There has been speculation that he might have to curtail some parts of his schedule in the capital, Bangui, where he plans to visit a mosque in one of the city’s volatile neighborhoods.

Millions are expected to attend Masses in Kenya and Uganda. In each country, at least 10,000 police are being deployed.

Africa, home to more than 200 million Roman Catholics, or about 17% of the faith's global population, has long been one of the church’s fastest growing regions. However, it faces a challenge from more charismatic Christian churches that also are rapidly growing.

Kenyan officials have said the trip will differ from President Obama's visit in July, which saw many roads blocked and people discouraged from trying to see him.

“Unlike the visit by President Barack Obama when the government encouraged Kenyans to stay home, we are encouraging Kenyans to flock into the city in their numbers to cheer the pope and celebrate Mass with him,” government spokesman Manoah Esipisu told journalists before the Francis' visit.

Esipisu said about 1 million people were expected to flock to Nairobi to see the pope.

In a speech to Kenyans that was televised live, Francis touched on poverty, inequality, the need for a just distribution of resources, reconciliation, peace and the environment.

In a world reeling after recent terror attacks by Islamic extremists in Paris, Beirut, Nigeria, Mali, Egypt and Tunisia, the pontiff called for dialogue to improve interfaith understanding.

“As we fight this war, recent events around the world have indeed taught us that we must do even more to bring unity and understanding between faiths, between ethnicities, between races but also between nations,” he said.

He said poverty and inequality breed terrorism, violence and war.

“All men and women of goodwill are called to work for reconciliation and peace, forgiveness and healing,” he said. “Experience shows that violence, conflict and terrorism feed on fear, mistrust and the despair born of poverty and frustration.

“Ultimately, the struggle against these enemies of peace and prosperity must be carried on by men and women who fearlessly believe in, and bear honest witness to, the great spiritual and political values which inspired the birth of the nation,” he said.

In Kenya, ranked 145th of 175 countries on the Transparency International perceptions of corruption list, the pope said leaders had a special responsibility to work for the common good.

“The Gospel tells us that from those to whom much has been given, much will be demanded. In that spirit, I encourage you to work with integrity and transparency for the common good, and to foster a spirit of solidarity at every level of society,” Francis said.

He met with Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, who is Catholic, at State House, where he also planted a tree.

“I am told that here in Kenya it is a tradition for young schoolchildren to plant trees for posterity," he said in his speech. "May this eloquent sign of hope in the future, and trust in the growth which God gives, sustain all of you in your efforts to cultivate a society of solidarity, justice and peace on the soil of this country and throughout the great African continent.”

On Thursday, Francis will deliver a speech on the environment at the U.N. Environment Program headquarters in Nairobi, with key international talks on climate change in Paris due to begin at the end of the month.

He told Kenyans that the environment and natural resources were gifts from God and there was an obligation to protect them for future generations.

“We have a responsibility to pass on the beauty of nature in its integrity to future generations, and an obligation to exercise a just stewardship of the gifts we have received,” Francis said.

On Friday, he will visit Kangemi, a crowded and squalid slum on the outskirts of Nairobi.

In Uganda where, politicians have repeatedly tried to impose the death penalty for homosexuality and newspapers have published the names, addresses and photographs of gays and lesbians, activists are hoping the pope will deliver a message of tolerance.

In the past Francis has emphasized the church’s position that while it sees homosexuality as “sinful” it also believes gays and lesbians shouldn’t be persecuted.

“If a person is gay and seeks God and has goodwill, who am I to judge?” he said famously in 2013.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 26, 2015, 08:21:20 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-christian-muslim-dialogue-essential-peace-054916021.html
11/26/15
Pope says Christian-Muslim dialogue essential for peace
Pope in Kenya says Christian-Muslim dialogue essential to prevent extremism, promote peace


NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- Pope Francis told Christian and Muslim leaders in Kenya on Thursday that they have little choice but to engage in dialogue to guard against the "barbarous" Islamic extremist attacks that have struck Kenya, saying they need to be "prophets of peace."

Francis met with a small group of Kenya's faith leaders before celebrating his first public Mass on the continent, a joyful, rain-soaked celebration of an estimated 300,000 faithful, including Kenya's president. The Argentine pope, who has never been to Africa before, was treated to ululating Swahili singers, swaying nuns, Maasai tribesmen and traditional dancers at the Mass on the grounds of the University of Nairobi.

On his first full day in Kenya, Francis received a raucous welcome from the crowd as he zoomed around in his open-sided popemobile, some 10,000 police providing security. Some people had been at the university since 3 a.m., braving heavy showers that turned the grounds into thick puddles of mud. Others waited in queues 3 kilometers (1.8 miles) deep to get close to the venue.

But the size of the crowd — estimated by both police and the Vatican — was far smaller than the 1.4 million that Kenyan authorities had expected after declaring Thursday a national holiday. Vatican officials had predicted a maximum of a half-million people, and the lower number was likely due in large part to the weather.

In his homily, Francis appealed for traditional family values, calling for Kenyans to "resist practices which foster arrogance in men, hurt or demean women, don't care for the elderly and threaten the life of the innocent unborn."

The African church is among the most conservative in the world, and African bishops have been at the forefront in insisting that traditional church teachings on marriage and sexuality, and its opposition to abortion, be strongly emphasized.

Francis obliged, but also stressed issues of his own concern: He called for Kenyans to shape a more just society that looks out for the poor and to "reject everything that leads to prejudice and discrimination, for these things are not of God."

Francis heads later to the U.N. regional headquarters in Nairobi for an environment speech. On Friday, he arrives in Uganda for the second leg of his trip.

Earlier Thursday, Francis met with about 25 representatives of Kenya's faith groups: Anglicans, other Protestants, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews.

The pope insisted that religion can never be used to justify violence and lamented that "all too often, young people are being radicalized in the name of religion to sow discord and fear, and to tear at the very fabric of our societies."

He said dialogue among the faiths isn't a luxury or optional, but is simply "essential."

Kenya, a former British colony, is majority Christian. Muslims represent about 10 percent of the population.

In the meeting, Francis referred explicitly to three recent attacks claimed by the Somalia-based al-Shabab extremist group, saying he knew well that the memories were still fresh in Kenya's mind.

In April, the al-Qaida-linked al-Shabab claimed responsibility for the attack on a mostly Christian college in northeastern Kenya that left some 150 people dead. A month earlier, al-Shabab claimed responsibility for attacks in Mandera county on the Somali border in which 12 people died. In September 2013, at least 67 people were killed in an attack by al-Shabab on the Westgate mall in Nairobi.

Al-Shabab opposes Kenya's decision to send troops to Somalia to fight the group as part of an African Union force backing Somalia's weak federal government.

"How important it is that we be seen as prophets of peace, peacemakers who invite others to live in peace, harmony and mutual respect," Francis said.

His comments were echoed by Abdulghafur El-Busaidy, the head of the Supreme Council of Kenyan Muslims.

He said Christians and Muslims must work together to accommodate one another, and lead the country. "We should not step back," he said. "We have to lead, because we are led by the word of God."

Francis' message of tolerance and his concern for the poor has been welcomed by Kenyans of all religious stripes.

"This pope has transcended religious fault lines," said Kenyan Sen. Hassan Omar, a Muslim. "He has talked about the plight of Palestinians, the weak and the downtrodden. He epitomizes simplicity and demonstrated that he is foremost a defender for social justice."

Nelly Ndunge, 29, said Francis' visit to Kenya was a blessing because it would renew her faith — and had boosted her printing business: She said she had already sold nearly 3,000 copies of a 2016 calendar with the pope's portrait on it.

"I am a Catholic and I believe he is godsend," she said as she waited to see him at the Mass.

Others shared the sentiment but left the university early because they felt the day was marred by disorganization.

Sarah Ondiso, a senior government official, said security and volunteers arrived at the site only well after the faithful had lined up, and then didn't know where to direct them.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 30, 2015, 11:41:01 am
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-end-africa-trip-mosque-visit-besieged-enclave-064800331.html
Pope ends Africa tour with mosque visit in besieged Muslim enclave
11/30/15

BANGUI (Reuters) - Pope Francis ventured into one of the world's most dangerous neighbourhoods on Monday to implore Christians and Muslims to end a spiral of hate, vendetta and bloodshed that has killed thousands over the past three years and divided a nation.

Ending his three-nation Africa tour under intense security, Francis passed through a no-man's zone to enter PK5, a district where most Muslims who have not fled Central African Republic's capital Bangui have now sought refuge. He later celebrated Mass in the national stadium before flying back to Rome.

The PK5 neighbourhood has been cut off from the rest of the city for the past two months by a ring of so-called anti-balaka Christian militias, who block supplies from entering and Muslims from leaving.

A heavy deployment of United Nations peacekeepers with rifles and bullet-proof vests was present throughout PK5 and armoured vehicles mounted with machineguns were positioned along the route of Pope Francis' motorcade.

U.N. sharpshooters looked out from the tops of the minarets crowning the freshly repainted green and white mosque, where hundreds of PK5's Muslims listened as Francis made an impassioned appeal for an end to the violence.

"Christians and Muslims are brothers and sisters," he said after a speech by Imam Tidiani Moussa Naibi, one of the local religious leaders trying to foster dialogue.

"Those who claim to believe in God must also be men and women of peace," he said, noting that Christians, Muslims and followers of traditional religions had lived together in peace for many years.

He appealed for "an end to every act which, from whatever side, disfigures the face of God and whose ultimate aim is to defend particular interests by any and all means."

Central African Republic descended into chaos in early 2013 when mainly Muslim Seleka rebels seized power in the majority Christian country, sparking reprisals from Christian militias. Leaders from both sides say the hatred has been manipulated for political gain.

Healing rifts between Christian and Muslim communities has been a theme throughout Francis' first visit to the continent, which has also taken him to Kenya and Uganda.

However, nowhere is his call for peace and reconciliation more pressing than in Central African Republic, where thousands have died and hundreds of thousands have been displaced in clashes that have split the country along religious lines.

UNPRECEDENTED SECURITY

"Together, we must say no to hatred, to revenge and to violence, particularly that violence which is perpetrated in the name of a religion or of God himself. God is peace, 'salam,'" the pope said, using the Arabic word for peace.

Unprecedented security measures have been laid on for the pontiff's two-day visit to the former French colony, which took place amid a surge in violence.

In addition to around 500 national police and gendarmes, Central African Republic's United Nations peacekeeping mission brought in additional forces and deployed over 3,000 soldiers in an attempt to secure the city during the pope's visit. French troops based in Bangui were also on alert.

Tit-for-tat killings in and around the tiny PK5 enclave have claimed at least 100 lives since late September, according to Human Rights Watch.

Imam Naibi has called PK5 "an open-air prison", but on Monday he struck a optimistic tone.

"The relationship between our Christian brothers and sisters and ourselves is so deep that no manoeuvre seeking to undermine it will succeed," he told the pope.

"The Christians and Muslims of this country are obliged to live together and love each other."

Both Christians and Muslims have welcomed the pope's visit, hoping he can spur renewed dialogue and help restore peace.

Thousands of Muslims lined the roads of PK5 to get a glimpse of the pontiff, and a group of young Muslims in cars and motorbikes ventured out of the enclave, following the pope's motorcade as it headed to the national stadium.

There, Francis was greeted by believers who packed into its 20,000 seats or onto the soccer pitch, dancing and singing.

After celebrating a final Mass before the cheering crowd, the pope took a lap around the stadium in the back of a modified Toyota pick-up before heading to the airport and flying back to Rome.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 01, 2015, 03:19:43 am
Pope says fundamentalism is 'disease of all religions'

Aboard the papal plane (AFP) - Pope Francis said fundamentalism is "a disease of all religions", including the Roman Catholic Church, as he returned from a three-nation tour of Africa in which he preached reconciliation and hope.

"Fundamentalism is always a tragedy. It is not religious, it lacks God, it is idolatrous," the Argentine pontiff told journalists on the plane back from the Central African Republic.

There, on the final leg of his first trip to Africa, the leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics called on Christian and Muslim "brothers and sisters" to end the sectarian conflict that has torn the country apart.

He was given a rapturous welcome by thousands of people as he visited a mosque in the flashpoint Muslim PK5 neighbourhood of the capital Bangui, on what was the most dangerous part of his 24-hour visit to the country.

"Together, we must say no to hatred, to revenge and to violence, particularly that violence which is perpetrated in the name of a religion or of God himself," he said.

Speaking later in the day as he flew back to Rome, Francis said Islam was not the only religion to suffer from violent extremists, such as the ones behind the deadly attacks in Paris which were claimed by the Islamic State.

We Catholics, we have a few, even many fundamentalists. They believe they know absolute truth and corrupt others," he said, adding: "I can say this because this is my Church."

Francis also visited Kenya on his trip, where he denounced the radicalisation of young people, citing "barbarous attacks" by Islamic extremists in Nairobi, Garissa and Mandera.

The country has been hit by numerous deadly attacks since sending its army into neighbouring Somalia in 2011 after a string of kidnappings it blamed on Al-Qaeda's east Africa branch, the Shebab.

In Uganda, huge crowds celebrated as he honoured Christians martyred for the faith and hailed Africa as "the continent of hope".

But it was in Central African Republic, torn apart by brutal violence between mostly Muslim rebels and Christian militias for more than two years, that his visit appeared to have made the most powerful impression.

In extraordinary scenes before he held a papal mass at the capital's Barthelemy Boganda stadium, a group of Muslim rebels from the PK5 area leapt out of two pickup trucks, all wearing T-shirts bearing the pope's image.

As they pushed through the crowd in an area where Muslims usually do not dare to venture, people cheered and shouted: "It's over".

"We thought the whole world had abandoned us, but not him. He loves us Muslims too," said Idi Bohari, an elderly man.

The landlocked Central African Republic descended into bloodshed after longtime Christian leader Francois Bozize was ousted by rebels from the mainly Muslim Seleka force in March 2013.

The coup plunged the former French colony into its worst crisis since independence in 1960, and more than 100 people have been killed in the capital since late September alone.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-fundamentalism-disease-religions-041229589.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 01, 2015, 09:31:13 am
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"Fundamentalism is always a tragedy. It is not religious, it lacks God, it is idolatrous," the Argentine pontiff told journalists on the plane back from the Central African Republic.

FWIW, I just unsubscribed from a YT channel, that I thought was putting out a lot of edifying teachings et al, b/c today he put out a video saying how KJB-only people are idolators. I should have seen the warning signs when he used the Amplified Version (along with the King James Version) in his videos.

I'm not saying that guy is some Jesuit plant, but sometimes you have to wonder when they use THIS kind of language. It's as if he used the same rhetoric the Pope here used.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 02, 2015, 07:19:50 pm
Pope Francis Criticizes Fundamentalists Who Believe They Possess 'Absolute Truth'

Pope Francis has strictly denounced proponents of fundamentalism who claim that they possess “absolute truth.”
 
The Pontiff recently concluded his three-country tour of Africa, visiting the Central African Republic, Uganda, and Kenya.
 
The Christian Post reports that during an in-flight press conference on his return trip to Rome, Francis stated,“We Catholics have some--and not some, many--who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disorientation, and doing evil. They do evil. I say this because it is my Church.”
 
He added that “ideas and false certainties” can replace faith, love, and God.
 
The Pope said he was pleased with his trip to Africa where he focused on bringing unity between Christians and Muslims.
 
"We are living at a time when religious believers, and persons of goodwill everywhere are called to foster mutual understanding and respect, and to support each other as members of our one human family. For all of us are God's children," Francis stated.

Francis also commented on the climate change talks in Paris, stating, “We are on the verge of suicide, to put it strongly.” He urged world leaders to take action on this issue.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/pope-francis-criticizes-fundamentalists-who-believe-they-possess-absolute-truth.html

and here i thought that the catholic church as the only ones with absolute truth, hunh...  :D


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 11, 2015, 03:49:26 pm
POPE FRANCIS ISSUES DECREE THAT JEWS SHOULD NOT BE TOLD ABOUT SALVATION IN JESUS CHRIST
"In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews," said the document, adding that there was a "principled rejection of an institutional Jewish mission."

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-says-jews-should-not-be-converted/
12/10/15

CATHOLICS SHOULD NOT TRY TO CONVERT JEWS AND SHOULD WORK WITH THEM TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM, THE VATICAN SAID ON THURSDAY IN A MAJOR NEW DOCUMENT THAT DREW THE CHURCH FURTHER AWAY FROM THE STRAINED RELATIONS OF THE PAST.

“And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 18:3 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JESUS CHRIST CAME TO “SAVE HIS PEOPLE” FROM THEIR SINS. TODAY, POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCED THAT SOUL-SAVING KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS CHRIST SHOULD BE WITHHELD FROM ANYONE WHO IS JEWISH, AND THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE CONVERTED. THIS IS IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO EVERYTHING THE BIBLE TEACHES ABOUT SALVATION, AND AGAINST THE DIRECT STATEMENTS OF JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF. AND YOU WONDER WHY WE THINK THIS POPE IS THE FALSE PROPHET? PURPOSELY NOT TELLING THE JEWS HOW TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IS THE WORST KIND OF ANTI-SEMITISM THERE COULD EVER POSSIBLY BE.

Christianity and Judaism are intertwined and God never annulled his covenant with the Jewish people, said the document from the Vatican’s Commission for Religious Relations with Jews.

“The Church is therefore obliged to view evangelization to Jews, who believe in the one God, in a different manner from that to people of other religions and world views,” it said.

It also said Catholics should be particularly sensitive to the significance to Jews of the Shoah, the Hebrew word for the Holocaust, and pledged “to do all that is possible with our Jewish friends to repel anti-Semitic tendencies.”

“A Christian can never be an anti-Semite, especially because of the Jewish roots of Christianity,” it said.

The document coincided with the 50th anniversary of a revolutionary Vatican statement that repudiated the concept of collective Jewish guilt for Jesus’ death and launched a theological dialogue that traditionalists have rejected.

They feel there should be a so-called “Jewish mission” to convert Jews because they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah, and were therefore bound to be displeased by the new official stance on conversion, a senior Vatican official said.

“In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews,” said the document, adding that there was a “principled rejection of an institutional Jewish mission.”

A Vatican expert in Catholic-Jewish dialogue said it was the first time a repudiation of active conversion of Jews was so clearly stated in a Vatican document. source


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 26, 2015, 07:52:43 pm
The Pope Says This Christmas Is A ‘Charade’ And That For Some People ‘It May Be Their Last’

Pope Francis sure does say a lot of strange things. I don’t think that any other Pope throughout history has ever called Christmas a “charade” or has suggested that for many people this Christmas “may be their last”. What in the world would cause Pope Francis to adopt such an ominous tone? Without a doubt, the leader of the largest religious organization in the entire world would be privy to information that would not be available to ordinary people like you and I. Could it be possible that he is aware of something that is coming that is going to dramatically change life on this planet? What we do know is that our world is becoming increasingly unstable. World War III threatens to erupt in the Middle East at any time, the number of terror attacks around the globe continues to increase, earthquake activity continues to rise, giant cracks are opening up in the ground all over the world, and we are rapidly plunging into a brand new global financial crisis. There is certainly a lot to be concerned about, but what would make the Pope so glum that he would actually call Christmas a “charade”?

One of the primary reasons why the Pope is so down is all of the war that is going on all over the planet right now. It was in the context of talking about war that he made this recent statement about Christmas being “a charade”…

Pope Francis has declared in a sermon that Christmas this year will be a “charade” because “the whole world is at war”.

The pontiff’s speech at the Vatican came after terrorist attacks in France claimed the lives of 129 people; a Russian plane was bombed and dozens of people were killed in a double suicide attack in Lebanon.

Speaking during Mass at the Casa Santa Maria, he said: “We are close to Christmas. There will be lights, there will be parties, bright trees, even Nativity scenes – all decked out – while the world continues to wage war.”

“It’s all a charade. The world has not understood the way of peace. The whole world is at war.”

And what he has said is actually true. War and civil conflict are breaking out all over the planet, and all of this violence threatens to spiral out of control as we head into 2016.

On another occasion, Pope Francis even went so far as to suggest that we have now entered a third world war…

“Even today, after the second failure of another world war, perhaps one can speak of a third war, one fought piecemeal, with crimes, massacres, destruction.”

So has World War III begun?

I don’t know that I would go that far, but I believe that we are certainly on the road toward it.

The recent statements from Pope Francis that I have already shared with you are bizarre enough, but then just a few days ago he added this whopper to the list…

The Pontiff, who turned 79 on Thursday, elaborated on his views this weekend, telling a crowd, “While the world starves, burns, and descends further into chaos, we should realise that this year’s Christmas celebrations for those who choose to celebrate it may be their last”.

What in the world did he mean by that?

Precisely who was he talking about when he said that “it may be their last” Christmas?

That statement can be taken a lot of different ways, and it has raised a lot of eyebrows. And of course this is just the most recent example of this Pope doing and saying some very unusual things. Just consider what we have seen over the past couple of years…

–Pope Francis Declares That Christian Fundamentalism ‘Is A Sickness’

–In New York, Pope Francis Embraced Chrislam And Laid A Foundation For A One World Religion

–In Fiery Speeches, Pope Francis Excoriates Global Capitalism

–Pope Francis Calls For A New Global Political Authority To Save Humanity

–The Pope’s Embrace Of Evolution Brings Us One Step Closer To A One World Religion

–Pope Francis And Shimon Peres Discuss The Establishment Of A ‘United Nations Of Religions’

This Pope has been unlike any Pope that we have ever seen before. He has been consistently doing and saying things that would be regarded as “crazy” if any other religious leader did or said them, but because he is the Pope he gets away with it.

Meanwhile, other prominent voices around the planet are also issuing apocalyptic warnings these days.

For instance, tech guru Elon Musk believes that World War III “could erupt at any time”…

World War III could erupt at any time, and the effects could be devastating.

That’s the warning from top technology boss Elon Musk.

The billionaire businessman, who’s companies include Tesla Motors and SpaceX, believes a number of factors including the growth of religious extremism could trigger a third World War.

Musk believes that in the future the world could find itself locked in a nuclear World War “far worse than anything that’s happened before.”

And I believe that Musk is right about that.

Personally, I am completely convinced that we are eventually heading toward a third world war, and I believe that it will fundamentally change life on this planet.

So what is the solution?

Well, Musk believes that we need to consider traveling to Mars while there is still time…

Mankind may only have a brief window to set foot on Mars before a disaster such as a third World War makes it no longer possible, Elon Musk has warned.

The founder of SpaceX, which was the first private company to resupply the International Space Station, fears such a war could set back technological advancements.

His company is preparing to announce its ambitious plans for rocket and spacecraft technology to carry humans to the red planet.

To Musk, a “colony on Mars” would make perfect sense. He believes that it would give us the best chance to survive as a species if life on this planet was totally wiped out…

Speaking in an interview with GQ, he said such a mission may be important to help ensure the long term survival of mankind.

In particular, he believes a Martian colony could help to ensure humanity survives if there is ever a calamity on Earth that destroys life here.

‘You back up your hard drive…. Maybe we should back up life, too?’ he said.

If life is so great and everything is under control, then why are world leaders like Elon Musk and Pope Francis so seemingly obsessed with apocalyptic scenarios?

Could it be possible that everything is not really “under control”?

The truth, of course, is that most of us have a gut feeling that big trouble is on the horizon. Many of us may not know exactly what that trouble will consist of, and we may not be able to put our feelings into words, but deep inside most of us understand that the future is not bright.

So what should we do?

Is there anything that can be done?

Is it inevitable that humanity is facing a future of chaos and war?

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-pope-says-this-christmas-is-a-charade-and-that-for-some-people-it-may-be-their-last


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 26, 2015, 10:31:56 pm
Yes, Frankie DID telegraph some punches here - xmas is nothing more than "bread and circuses" to heavily distract the masses.


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Post by: Mark on December 29, 2015, 04:57:34 pm
Pope Francis assures atheists: You don’t have to believe in God to go to heaven

Michael Day | The Independent | Dec 26, 2015, 10.48 AM IST

In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: "You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don't believe and who don't seek the faith. I start by saying - and this is the fundamental thing - that God's mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart.

The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

"Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience."

Robert Mickens, the Vatican correspondent for the Catholic journal The Tablet, said the pontiff's comments were further evidence of his attempts to shake off the Catholic Church's fusty image, reinforced by his extremely conservative predecessor Benedict XVI. "Francis is a still a conservative," said Mickens. "But what this is all about is him seeking to have a more meaningful dialogue with the world."

In a welcoming response to the letter, Scalfari said the Pope's comments were "further evidence of his ability and desire to overcome barriers in dialogue with all".

In July, Francis signalled a more progressive attitude on sexuality, asking: "If someone is gay and is looking for the Lord, who am I to judge him?"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Pope-Francis-assures-atheists-You-dont-have-to-believe-in-God-to-go-to-heaven/articleshow/50330694.cms


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Post by: Mark on January 05, 2016, 01:46:38 pm
Frank begins search for ANTICHRIST

In 2016, Francis may be a pope in search of a partner
Plus: What if the pope throws a jubilee and no one comes?


When a strong pope with a clear social agenda intersects with a world leader who shares the same basic outlook, and one who’s willing to put elbow grease behind it, sometimes history can change.

With the support of King Philip II of Spain, for instance, St. Pius V promoted a “Holy League” that turned back a possible Ottoman Muslim conquest of Europe at the Battle of Lepanto in 1571. Four centuries later, St. John Paul II and US President Ronald Reagan joined forces in a successful effort to bring down Soviet Communism.

Though with a different set of priorities, Pope Francis has a similar ambition to shape history. He wants to steer it away from what he’s called the “globalization of indifference” to the poor, refugees, and other victims of a “throw-away culture”, and he wants to end a Third World War he believes is being fought today in “piece-meal” fashion.

The question facing Francis in 2016 is: Who’s the political partner who could help him move the ball? In truth, it’s not easy to answer.

For centuries, the Vatican instinctively looked to the great Catholic powers of Europe as its natural allies. Today, that logic no longer holds.

In Western Europe, traditionally Catholic nations such as France and Spain are mired in domestic difficulties, and their strongly secular ethos is suspicious of ecclesiastical leadership in politics. In the East, the most staunchly Catholic nation, Poland, is currently led by a nationalist government hostile to Francis’ priorities on several fronts, from the treatment of refugees to the use of fossil fuels.
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(The political climate in Poland should make Francis’ scheduled visit in late July to lead the Church’s World Youth Day highly interesting.)

More recently the Vatican has tended to rely on the United States, but that too seems a dicey proposition going forward.

Obama and Francis did come together in the historic reopening of relations with Cuba, but veteran Italian journalist Piero Schiavazzi recently made the interesting observation that Francis could be in for the same disappointment today that befell John Paul II after the collapse of Communism.

John Paul wanted to bring Eastern and Western Europe back together, hoping the East would revive the spiritually moribund West, only to watch Western consumerism and secularism triumph. Likewise, Schiavazzi suggests Francis has helped reunify the Americas but he may be unhappy with the aftermath, as a conservative political wave away from his preferred brand of social democracy seems to be building in Latin America, including his native Argentina, and the United States could well be on the brink of electing Donald Trump.

Even if Hillary Clinton prevails in 2016, that’s not necessary a forecast for an era of good feelings. During the last Clinton administration, the Vatican and the White House fought titanic battles over population control and abortion during United Nations conferences in Cairo and Beijing.

Who does that leave?

One option would be Vladimir Putin, recently crowned by Forbes as the most powerful person in the world, and Francis and the Russian leader have done business on several fronts. In September 2013 they aligned to resist calls for Western military intervention in Syria, and Putin’s pledge to defend persecuted Christians in the Middle East is something Francis values.

On the other hand, Francis also has repeatedly criticized Russia’s intervention in Ukraine, and in any event a marriage between the “Pope of Mercy” and, arguably, the least merciful public figure on the planet, doesn’t quite seem a match made in heaven.

Francis could look to China, the world’s emerging superpower, under Xi Jinping. (The pontiff and the Chinese premier finished fourth and fifth on the Forbes power countdown.)

Yet the two men didn’t meet when they were both in the United States at the same time in September, suggesting that a long-standing chill between Beijing and Rome has yet to thaw, and until China rethinks its policies on religious freedom, a partnership could only go so far.

One might think a “Pope of the Peripheries” would naturally look to the developing world for strategic partnerships, and there are promising options. What I’ve called the PINS nations – the Philippines, India, Nigeria, and South Korea – all have dynamic, growing Catholic communities, and they all are countries positioned for leadership.

Yet for various reasons, each has its drawbacks as a potential partner. India, for example, is ruled by a Hindu nationalist government hostile to the country’s Christian minority, while Nigeria is engulfed by internal woes, chiefly Boko Haram. The Philippines is facing its own election cycle in 2016, and South Korean foreign policy often begins and ends with its neighbor to the north.

Perhaps the answer for Pope Francis is that there simply is no Philip II or Ronald Reagan awaiting him in 2016, meaning a single world leader with vision and clout whose interests align neatly with his own.

Instead, if Francis is correct that a Third World War is being fought piece-meal, perhaps the only response may be an equally piece-meal brand of diplomacy, crafting short-term alliances with various figures on specific issues but refraining from putting all his eggs in one basket.

So far, the piece-meal war denounced by Francis seems to be doing just fine without any overarching leadership. It remains to be seen if a similarly ad-hoc kind of peacemaking, inspired by the pontiff but without a clear dancing partner, can be equally effective in resolving it.

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What if the pope throws a jubilee and no one comes?

Philosophy’s classic head-scratcher asks if a tree falls in the forest but no one’s there to hear it, does it make a sound? In 2016, Pope Francis may face his own personal version of that conundrum: If a pope calls a jubilee year but no one shows up, did it actually happen?

That’s a tongue-in-cheek way of putting things, because to suggest “no one” may turn out for the Holy Year of Mercy that Francis has set to run from Dec. 8, 2015, to Nov. 20, 2016, is wildly overstated. Plenty of pilgrims have already taken part in its early moments, including the opening of a Holy Door at St. Peter’s Basilica on Dec. 8 and on New Year’s Day at St. Mary Major, and the city of Rome is expecting throngs of additional visitors during the year.

On the other hand, Vatican statistics released at the end of the year show that attendance at papal events in December was down significantly with respect to 2014, having dropped 30 percent from the same month in the previous year. Crowd totals fell from 461,000 last December to 324,000 in December 2015, despite the fact that there were actually a few more events this December due to the beginning of the Holy Year.

The decline was palpable during the holiday period, as crowds for the pope’s Urbi et Orbi address on Christmas Day and his noontime Angelus on New Year’s Day were enthusiastic but notably smaller than usual.

Based on the diminished turnout, one Italian newspaper carried the headline: “A ‘Jubilee Effect’ Just Isn’t There.” Some Italian commentators began rolling out the word “flop” to describe the jubilee’s early phase.

Most observers believe a primary reason for the small crowds is widespread concern over security in the wake of the November terrorist attacks in Paris, which has produced alarm over large public gatherings all over Europe. It’s had a chilling effect on tourism generally, with officials in the Italian province that includes Rome also reporting below-average hotel occupancy rates during the holiday period.

Every day seems to bring a new security scare. On New Year’s Day, for instance, there was a report of a suspicious package discovered on Rome’s subway system which discouraged many locals from using public transportation.

Since terrorism does not seem on the brink of disappearing, it could cast a shadow over the entire year. If a thirty percent drop for Francis’ events were to continue throughout 2016, it would mean that almost two million fewer people will see him during his all-important jubilee year than in the previous two.

There may, however, be two other forces behind the drop-off, both of which may not necessarily be alarming for the kind of jubilee Pope Francis hopes to lead.

For one thing, Francis created unusually high expectations for crowd size in the early stages of his papacy. Official Vatican figures estimate that Francis drew almost six million people to public events in Rome during 2014, after setting a record total of 6.6 million in 2013. Both represented astonishing spikes in comparison to the turnout for Pope Benedict XVI, who in 2011 drew 2.5 million.

Since Francis’ election, virtually every Wednesday General Audience and Sunday Angelus address in Rome took on the feel of a major canonization Mass, with massive crowds forcing police to block off portions of the broad Via della Conciliazione leading to St. Peter’s Square.

To some extent, it could be that Francis’ totals were always destined to come back to Earth, and December 2015 may go down as the moment when that levelling-off began to happen. For a pontiff who’s groused about being dubbed a “superman,” that may not seem an entirely bad thing.

In addition, Francis has said he doesn’t want the Year of Mercy to be celebrated exclusively in Rome, but also in local parishes and dioceses all around the world.

For the first time in the history of the Church’s jubilee tradition, which stretches all the way back to Pope Boniface VIII in 1300, individual dioceses have been asked to open their own Holy Door, to be called a “Door of Mercy,” either in the local cathedral or in a church of special meaning or a shrine of particular importance. People who want the plenary indulgence associated with passing through a holy door can do so without the need to come to Rome.

During a press conference in May, Italian Archbishop Rino Fisichella of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of New Evangelization — more or less the “director” of the Holy Year — tried to underscore its originality.

“In order to avoid any misunderstanding,” he said, “it is important to reiterate that this Jubilee of Mercy is not, and does not intend to be, the Great Jubilee Year of 2000.”

His reference was to the holy year held under St. John Paul II to mark the turn of the millennium in 2000, widely considered the biggest blockbuster in the history of jubilees. It featured a special event in Rome virtually every day, including – this is no joke – jubilee days for pizza chefs, motorcycle riders, and circus performers.

The city of Rome officially estimates that 24.5 million people took part in John Paul II’s jubilee at some point during the year 2000; Censis, an Italian research institute, put the total at 32 million.

Francis seems to have in mind a less Rome-centric event. On Ash Wednesday this year, which falls on Feb. 10, he’ll commission a special corps of priests, called “Missionaries of Mercy,” part of whose charge is to go out and organize special events connected to the jubilee for local churches around the world.

If crowds are smaller in Rome this time, therefore, it won’t necessarily mean the jubilee is a flop. It could simply signify that it’s working according to design, as some share of potential pilgrims decide to observe the event in their own backyards.

For those reasons, the party most likely to be disappointed if the expected tidal wave of visitors to Rome never materializes almost certainly won’t be Pope Francis.

Instead, it will be Rome’s hotel operators, tour guides, cab drivers, restauranteurs, and gift shop owners, all of whom have been counting on the jubilee to boost their flagging bottom lines. The pope may be happy with a smaller and less spectacular event, but the people who make a living from his star power probably shouldn’t be expected to share the sentiment.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/01/03/in-2016-francis-may-be-a-pope-in-search-of-a-partner/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 05, 2016, 02:55:51 pm
Kenny Jacobs reported about this yesterday - yes, this IS big news! I don't know if Francis is either the AC or FP, but nonetheless it looks like the chess pieces are set in play now (and maybe the pawns have started to move).


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 07, 2016, 05:17:57 pm
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/catholicnews/2016/01/in-first-video-message-pope-francis-stresses-unity-we-are-all-children-of-god/
In first prayer video, Pope stresses interfaith unity: ‘We are all children of God’
1/7/16

Vatican City, Jan 7, 2016 / 04:40 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The Pope’s first-ever video message on his monthly prayer intentions was released Tuesday, highlighting the importance of interreligious dialogue and the beliefs different faith traditions hold in common, such as the figure of God and love.

“Many think differently, feel differently, seeking God or meeting God in different ways. In this crowd, in this range of religions, there is only one certainty that we have for all: we are all children of God,” Pope Francis said in his message, released Jan. 6, the feast of the Epiphany.
At the beginning of the video, a minute-and-a-half long, the Pope cites the fact that the majority of the earth’s inhabitants profess some sort of religious belief.

This, he said, “should lead to a dialogue among religions. We should not stop praying for it and collaborating with those who think differently.”
The video goes on to feature representatives of Buddhism, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, who proclaim their respective beliefs in God, Jesus Christ, Allah and Buddha.

Later on, after the Pope affirms that all, regardless of their religious profession, are children of God, the faith leaders state their common belief in love.

Pope Francis closes the video by expressing his hope that viewers “will spread my prayer request this month: that sincere dialogue among men and women of different faiths may produce fruits of peace and justice. I have confidence in your prayers.”

An initiative of the Jesuit-run global prayer network Apostleship of Prayer, the video was filmed in collaboration with the Vatican Television Center (CTV) and marks the first time the Pope’s monthly prayer intentions have been featured on video.

The Apostleship of Prayer was founded by Jesuit seminarians in France in 1884 to encourage Christians to serve God and others through prayer, particularly for the needs of the Church. Since the late 1800s the organization has also received a monthly intention from the Pope. In 1929 an additional, missionary intention was added by the Holy Father, aimed at the faithful in particular.

Referred to on the organizations’ website as the Pope’s “universal” and “evangelization” intentions, this month’s prayer requests focus on Francis’ desire for Interreligious Dialogue and Christian Unity.

Francis offers his universal petition so that “sincere dialogue among men and women of different faiths may produce the fruits of peace and justice,” and expresses his evangelistic prayer that “by means of dialogue and fraternal charity and with the grace of the Holy Spirit, Christians may overcome divisions.”

The Apostleship of Prayer has called the new videos on the intentions “The Pope Video.” While there are two intentions, the videos are centered on the first, universal intention.

This month’s video also features old friends of the pontiff from his time in Buenos Aires. Namely, Rabbi Daniel Goldman, Fr. Guillermo Marco, a Catholic priest, and Islamic leader Omar Abboud.

Released on various social media sites such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, the video shows Pope Francis speaking in his native Spanish, with subtitles available in a total of 10 different languages.

Papal prayer intentions for the rest of the year are listed on the organization’s website, displaying themes close to Francis’ heart, such as prayers for creation, families in difficulty, small farmers, indigenous peoples, countries receiving refugees, an end to child-soldiers, solidarity and respect for women.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 10, 2016, 09:38:13 pm
‘Pope Francis’ Calls for Collaboration With World’s Religions, Those Who ‘Meet God in Different Ways’

Starts search for Antichrist, calls all religions together as one...

In his first-ever video declaring his “prayer intentions,” the Roman Catholic leader Jorge Bergoglio, also known as Pope Francis, called for dialogue and collaboration among those of the various world religions on Tuesday, asserting that they are simply “seeking or meeting God in different ways.”

“Most of the planet’s inhabitants declare themselves believers,” he states in the production released on the Feast of Epiphany. “This should lead to dialogue among religions. We should not stop praying for it and collaborating with those who think differently.”

The video then features clips of those from different world religions declaring belief in their various deities.

“I have confidence in Buddha,” a female lama announces.

“I believe in God,” a rabbi affirms.

“I believe in Jesus Christ,” a priest states.

“I believe in Allah,” an Islamic leader declares.

Francis contends that all the religions of the world simply represent mankind’s diversity in seeking God. He says that despite the differing beliefs, everyone is a child of the same God.

“Many think differently, feel differently, seeking God or meeting God in different ways,” he states. “In this crowd, in this range of religions, there is only one certainty that we have for all: we are all children of God.”

The video then provides footage of the pontiff meeting with and embracing those of various religions, including Buddhists, Islamists and Orthodox Jews. It again cuts to representatives of the world’s religions, who now declare the same statement: “I believe in love.”

“I hope you will spread my prayer request this month: that sincere dialogue among men and women of different faiths may produce fruits of peace and justice,” Francis states. “I have confidence in your prayers.”

But not everyone is supportive of the Vatican’s call for unity and common ground. Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries of Plano, Texas told Christian News Network that the pontiff’s assertions that all mankind is “seeking or meeting God in different ways,” and that all are children of the same God, are flawed.

“Tragically, those who do not know the Bible or who refuse to submit to it as the supreme authority for truth, will be deceived by the pope’s latest pronouncement,” he stated. “The pope’s assertion that all mankind meets with/seeks after the same God, just in different ways, is false according to the word of God. No one seeks for (the true) God (Rom. 3:11), but there are many who seek after false gods of their own imagination or false gods of their religious traditions. The only way to meet with the true God is His way, through the one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus (1 Tim. 2:5).”

“The word of God reveals that the human race is made up of people who are either children of God or children of the devil (1 John 3:10),” Gendron explained. “The Lord Jesus soundly rebuked the religious leaders of His day for refusing to believe the truth of His Word (John 8:440-43). Jesus told them that their father was the devil, who is the father of lies (John 8:44).”

“This remains true today,” he continued. “The god of this world has created a variety of religions to blind all of his children from the light of the Gospel and the glory of Christ (2 Cor. 4:4).”

Gedron said that in one sense—although not deliberately—Francis is correct as all are children of the darkness by nature, but man only becomes a child of God when he is reborn in Christ.

“Everyone is a child of the ‘god of this world’ until they exchange their religion for a relationship with the one true God through Jesus Christ,” he outlined. “Those who receive Jesus by believing in His name become children of God (John 1:12-13).”

Gendron, a former Roman Catholic, also opined that the pontiff’s ecumenicism is fulfilling prophesy about the formulation of a one world religion.

“As the pope continues to accelerate his ecumenical agenda to rebuild the religious tower of Babel, he will be fulfilling Bible prophecy. All the religions of the world already share a ‘works-righteousness’ salvation and they all are already united by a common spiritual bond,” he said.

“As we see the prophetic one-world religion forming, we know the children of the true God will have no part of it because they have been sanctified by the truth and sealed with the Holy Spirit (2 Thes. 2:13),” Gendron stated.

https://youtu.be/Nq7us5Lf5IU

http://christiannews.net/2016/01/09/pope-calls-for-collaboration-with-worlds-religions-those-who-meet-god-in-different-ways/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on January 11, 2016, 12:05:14 am
One World Religion: Pope Francis Says All Major Religions Are ‘Meeting God In Different Ways’

A new video has just been released in which Pope Francis very clearly expresses his belief that all of the major religions are different paths to the same God. He says that while people from various global faiths may be “seeking God or meeting God in different ways” that it is important to keep in mind that “we are all children of God”. This is the most recent example that shows that the Pope has completely abandoned any notion that a relationship with God is available only through Jesus Christ. As he has done throughout his papacy, he continues to lay the groundwork for the coming one world religion, and yet hardly anyone seems upset by this.

When I first heard of this new video, I was so stunned that I thought that it might be a joke. But the truth is that this video is very real. The following comes from an article that was put out by Catholic News Agency…

The Pope’s first-ever video message on his monthly prayer intentions was released Tuesday, highlighting the importance of interreligious dialogue and the beliefs different faith traditions hold in common, such as the figure of God and love.

“Many think differently, feel differently, seeking God or meeting God in different ways. In this crowd, in this range of religions, there is only one certainty that we have for all: we are all children of God,” Pope Francis said in his message, released Jan. 6, the feast of the Epiphany.

But it isn’t just Pope Francis speaking in this video. In fact, one section of the video features leaders from various global religions expressing faith in their respective deities. The following comes from an article about this new video that was posted on Christian News Network…

The video then features clips of those from different world religions declaring belief in their various deities.

“I have confidence in Buddha,” a female lama announces.

“I believe in God,” a rabbi affirms.

“I believe in Jesus Christ,” a priest states.

“I believe in Allah,” an Islamic leader declares.

Are you shocked yet?

The Pope closes the video with an appeal for people from every religion to talk with one another and to work with one another. Here is more from Catholic News Agency…

Later on, after the Pope affirms that all, regardless of their religious profession, are children of God, the faith leaders state their common belief in love.

Pope Francis closes the video by expressing his hope that viewers “will spread my prayer request this month: that sincere dialogue among men and women of different faiths may produce fruits of peace and justice. I have confidence in your prayers.”

If you have not seen this video yet, it is definitely worth a few minutes of your time. You can watch it right here…

https://youtu.be/-6FfTxwTX34

Of course this is not the first time that Pope Francis has done something like this. Very early in his papacy, he authorized “Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran” at the Vatican for the first time ever. And as I documented in a previous article entitled “In New York, Pope Francis Embraced Chrislam And Laid A Foundation For A One World Religion“, during his visit to St. Patrick’s Cathedral in Manhattan he made it very clear that he believes that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. The following is how he began his address…
I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters: Firstly, my greetings as they celebrate the feast of sacrifice. I would have wished my greeting to be warmer. My sentiments of closeness, my sentiments of closeness in the face of tragedy. The tragedy that they suffered in Mecca.

In this moment, I give assurances of my prayers. I unite myself with you all. A prayer to almighty god, all merciful.

In Islam, one of Allah’s primary titles is “the all-merciful one”. If you doubt this, just do a Google search. And this certainly was not the first time that Pope Francis has used such language. For example, check out the following excerpt from remarks that he made during his very first ecumenical meeting as Pope…

I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs.

Are you starting to get the picture?

Pope Francis believes that all religions are different paths to the same God, and he is working hard to lay a foundation for the coming one world religion.

After watching this most recent video, I don’t know how anyone can possibly deny that.

However, there are some religious people that Pope Francis does not like. Just recently, he referred to Christian fundamentalism as “a sickness“, and he made it clear that there was no room for it in Catholicism.

So precisely what is “fundamentalism”?

Google defines it as “a form of a religion, especially Islam or Protestant Christianity, that upholds belief in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture.”

Does this mean that Pope Francis is against any Christian that believes in a literal interpretation of the Bible?

That does appear to be what he is saying, and without a doubt those would be the Christians that would be against the kind of one world religion that he appears to be promoting.

Nearly 2000 years ago, the Apostle John warned us that a one world religion was coming, and now we can see that it is coming to fruition.

So what will the end result of all of this be?

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/one-world-religion-pope-francis-says-all-major-religions-are-meeting-god-in-different-ways


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 21, 2016, 10:27:05 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-changes-church-law-for-gender-friendly-pre-easter-rite/2016/01/21/cc228424-c043-11e5-98c8-7fab78677d51_story.html
Pope changes church rule for gender-friendly pre-Easter rite
1/21/16

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis has changed church regulations to correspond to his rule-breaking celebration of the Easter Week ritual of washing the feet of men and women, Christians and not, in a sign of universal service.

Vatican rules for the Holy Thursday rite had long called for only men to participate, and popes past and many priests traditionally performed the ritual on 12 Catholic men, recalling Jesus’ 12 apostles.

Shortly after he was elected, Francis raised conservative eyebrows by performing the rite on men and women, Christians as well as Muslims, at a Roman juvenile detention facility in Rome.

He has continued to include men and women, young and old, sick and healthy and people of different faiths, travelling each year to encounter them to show his willingness to serve. It was a tradition he began as archbishop in Buenos Aires.

On Thursday, the Vatican published a decree from the Vatican’s liturgy office introducing an “innovation” to the church’s rules that corresponds to Francis’ way of doing things.

The decree said the rite can now be performed on anyone “chosen from among the people of God,” Catholic or not. Priests must only make sure that those participating are instructed beforehand as to the significance of the gesture.

It specifies that the group can include “men and women, and hopefully young and old, healthy and sick, clerical, consecrated and lay.”

In an accompanying letter, dated Dec. 20 but released Thursday, Francis wrote that he wanted to change the current rules “to fully express the significance of Jesus’ gesture, his giving of himself to the end for the salvation of the world and his unending charity.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 02, 2016, 07:35:48 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-to-become-first-pope-in-vatican-history-to-star-in-a-feature-film/
POPE FRANCIS TO BE FIRST POPE IN VATICAN HISTORY TO STAR IN A FEATURE FILM
For the first time in both cinematic and Vatican history, the leader of the worldwide Catholic Church will play himself in a big screen feature. Pope Francis is due to appear in family adventure film Beyond The Sun from AMBI Pictures.

2/2/16

THE “INSPIRATIONAL STORY” OF BEYOND THE SUN IS BASED ON THE GOSPELS AND TOLD IN SEVERAL TALES. IT WILL FOCUS ON CHILDREN FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES WHO EMULATE THE APOSTLES WHILE SEARCHING FOR JESUS IN THE WORLD AROUND THEM.

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:14,15 (KJV)

Pope Francis has no children, yet his worshippers call him the “holy father”, a title stolen from God in John 17:11 (KJV). He is a mere and mortal human being like anyone else, but somehow is granted the blasphemous title of “His Holiness”. Now the one known as the “vicar of christ” is set to star in a movie that he himself created.

For the first time in both cinematic and Vatican history, the leader of the worldwide Catholic Church will play himself in a big screen feature. Pope Francis is due to appear in family adventure film Beyond The Sun from AMBI Pictures. The casting came about after the pope asked the filmmakers to make a movie for children that communicates the message of Jesus. All profits from the faith-based film will be donated to two charities, El Almendro and Los Hogares de Cristo, which help aid at-risk children and young adults in need, and are located in Argentina, Pope Francis’ home country.

POPE FRANCIS SAYS JESUS FAILED AT THE CROSS:



The “inspirational story” of Beyond The Sun is based on the Gospels and told in several tales. It will focus on children from different cultures who emulate the apostles while searching for Jesus in the world around them. The filmmakers say it is intended to “spiritually engage and encourage audiences of all ages to transmit Jesus’ words, to understand them and integrate them to live a better life, make good choices and help others.” Graciela Rodriguez wrote the screenplay.

So far, the actual storylines have not yet been released, but we are willing to wager that the Pope will be presenting the same “jesus” he always presents. A mythical, powerless New Age Jesus who is still on the cross, and as Francis said last year, the “biggest failure” in the history of the world.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 11, 2016, 04:42:17 am
Mar 2:7
Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?


Pope unleashes 'super confessors' to tackle special sins

Dubbed 'super confessors', for one year only they can absolve sins usually only pardoned by the pope himself.

And on Wednesday over 1,000 of these "missionaries of mercy", handpicked by Pope Francis, were sent forth to win back the hearts of those who have left the Catholic Church and open the door to repentant sinners across the world.

There are certain evils the Vatican ranks above other sins, from attempting to assassinate the pope to defiling the Eucharist -- the rite of consuming consecrated bread and wine in Church -- by spitting it out or using it in a Satanic ritual.

Since the 12th century, those guilty of these so-called "reserved sins" had their cases evaluated by a secret tribunal in the tiny Vatican city state before they were sent before the pope, who would determine an appropriate penance.

Now, 1,142 priests and monks from around the world have be given the power, for the Vatican's Jubilee Year, to forgive sinners in their flocks -- and possibly fellow priests as one of the special sins is breaking the seal of confession.

Maltese Franciscan Marcello Ghirlando, 53, told AFP he thought giving the 'super confessors' authority usually reserved for the man in white was "a symbolic gesture" to show people the Church is ready to wipe slates clean.

"I think the pope wants to insist that 'listen, God is always going to forgive us if we turn to him with a clean heart, with a repentant heart'," he said with a grin, adding that he was relishing the challenge of bringing people back to church.

Pope Francis has repeatedly warned priests not to turn off potential believers by being boring, inaccessible or overly intrusive, and on Tuesday he told the missionaries they should take a "maternal" approach to sinners.

"Remember, you are not dealing with sin but a repentant sinner, a sinner who wants to change but can't," he said, telling them to "cover the sinner with a blanket of mercy, so that he is no longer ashamed and can rediscover joy."

- 'Spiritual, social revolution' -

Some of the super confessors are already thinking outside the box. One missionary is off to the Canadian Arctic to hear Eskimo confessions, another will tour Australia in a camper, whilst others are packing their bags for Burundi, China and Lebanon.

Vatican watcher John L. Allen, writing for the Cruxnow website, said the pontiff was hoping the missionaries would carry with them his messages on key social issues, from tackling climate change to opening doors to refugees.

"As the 'Pope of Mercy' sees it, this jubilee year isn't just a series of celebrations and events intended to foster deeper piety, however desirable that may be. The far more audacious aim is to launch a revolution -- spiritual at its core, but with imminent social and even political consequences," he said.

American priest Joseph Hlubik, 62, who was meeting up with the other missionaries ahead of talks with the pope, said he hoped that those who have left the Church in recent years "see this as an opportunity to come back".

"People who thought they were outside of the grace of God for one reason or another. Let them find us approachable and understanding," he said, holding his wide-brimmed black hat on in the wind.

Priest Mana Thembalethu from South Africa, 39, said the confessors would be forgiving those who take part in abortions -- but warned "we're not saying abortion is cool, everybody must do it. It still remains a sin".

And 49-year-old Xavier Lefebvre, a Paris-based priest, shrugged off the label "super confessor", saying anyone who takes confession should be super, or they are not doing their job right -- a sentiment shared by Francis.

"Let those who do not feel up to it have the humility to say: 'No, I'll celebrate Mass, I'll clean the floor, I'll do everything but not confess, because I do not know how to do it well'," the pope said.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-unleashes-super-confessors-tackle-special-sins-164359990.html


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Post by: Mark on February 15, 2016, 08:13:15 pm
Pope Francis Goes Into A Trance While Bowing Before Image Of The ‘Virgin Mary’

Pope Francis suddenly sat down in front of an image of the 'virgin Mary', where he sat silently and motionless for over 5 minutes. Later, he moved into a chamber behind the altar where the image is kept for nearly 30 minutes, as seen in the image at the top of this article.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-goes-into-a-trance-while-bowing-before-image-of-the-virgin-mary/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Nm6bXk9NQ





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Post by: Mark on February 19, 2016, 08:44:50 pm
Say it isnt so!!! The vatican lied!!  


LIES: Vatican Says Pope Francis Was Not Talking About Trump – This Is Not True


Vatican tries desperately to clarify Pope Francis’s remarks – Fails

On Thursday Pope Francis accused Republican frontrunner Donald Trump of not being Christian because of his plan to build a security wall and fence to protect America from the illegal immigrant invasion.

Trump responded to Pope Francis with a statement which he read at a South Carolina rally this morning.

“If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened. ISIS would have been eradicated unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians.”

After the uproar from pundits, religious leaders and Christians who believe in state borders, the Vatican tried desperately tried to clarify the pope’s remarks today. Rev. Federico Lombardi told Vatican radio on Friday the comments were “in no way a personal attack” on Donald Trump.
ABC News reported:

The papal spokesman is stressing that Pope Francis often says build bridges, not walls, and that his remark while flying back from Mexico wasn’t targeting U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Francis said Thursday that a person who advocates building walls for solutions is “not Christian.” Trump, who has repeatedly called for a wall to divide the United States and Mexico, retorted it was “disgraceful” to question a person’s faith.


The Rev. Federico Lombardi sought to clarify the issue Friday, telling Vatican Radio that Francis’ comments were “in no way a personal attack nor an indication on how to vote.”

Lombardi noted Francis often has advocated “building not walls, but bridges,” especially regarding Europe, as it struggles to handle the arrival of hundreds of thousands of people fleeing war and poverty.

On Thursday night, Trump softened his rhetoric on the pope after blasting the leader of the Catholic Church. Trump said during a town hall event on CNN that he now believes the pope’s remarks were “probably a little bit nicer” than first reported.

This was not accurate or honest.
The remarks by Pope Francis were in response to a direct question on Donald Trump, were directed at Trump and were an attack on Donald Trump. This Vatican is not being honest.

Here is the full transcript of Pope Francis’s comments on Donald Trump:
Via ABC News:

Q: Good evening, Your Holiness. Today you spoke eloquently about the problems of migrants. On the other side of the frontier there’s a very tough electoral campaign going on. One of the Republican candidates for the White House, Donald Trump, in a recent interview, said you are a “political man” and that maybe you are a pawn of the Mexican government as far as immigration policy is concerned. He has said that if elected, he would build a 2,500-kilometer-long wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, thus separating families, etc. I would like to ask you, first off, what do you think of these accusations against you, and if an American Catholic can vote for someone like this.

A: Thank God he said I was a politician because Aristotle defined the human person as “animal politicus.” So at least I am a human person. As to whether I am a pawn, well, maybe, I don’t know. I’ll leave that up to your judgment and that of the people. And then, a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the Gospel. As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/vatican-wants-to-clarify-insults-to-us-and-donald-trump/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 19, 2016, 08:50:34 pm
Nah...Frankie was merely "misquoted" by the "liberal media", like he has been for the last 3 years. Like he was "misquoted" for his pro-gay comments, his pro-socialism comments, among other things.

/Sarcasm


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 04, 2016, 01:38:08 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-says-that-the-muslim-invasion-of-europe-should-be-embraced/

Pope Francis Says That The Muslim Invasion Of Europe Should Be Embraced

"We can speak today of Arab invasion. It is a social fact," Pope Francis says with detachment, as if observed that the weather is cold. But he immediately added - and theorists of the "great change", dear to the far right, then it would remain disappointed - "how many invasions has experienced Europe in the course of its history! But he has always been able to overcome herself, go ahead then they find themselves as increased by the exchange between cultures."

3/4/16

Pope Francis referred to an “Arab invasion” during a speech to a French Christian group this week, adding that Europe has been enhanced by previous influxes of people.

“And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.” Revelation 13:6 (KJV)

In an absolutely shocking statement yesterday, Pope Francis very matter-of-factly declared that the Muslim invasion of Europe is an established fact and that it if Europe wanted to survive they should embrace the millions of illegal migrants pouring across their borders. The website of the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano had this to say:

“We can speak today of Arab invasion. It is a social fact,” Pope Francis says with detachment, as if observed that the weather is cold. But he immediately added – and theorists of the “great change”, dear to the far right, then it would remain disappointed – “how many invasions has experienced Europe in the course of its history! But he has always been able to overcome herself, go ahead then they find themselves as increased by the exchange between cultures.” – source

The pope then went on to say that Europe needs a “healthy secularism” where all religious points of view are tolerated and accepted:


“A healthy secularism includes an opening to all forms of transcendence, according to the different religious and philosophical traditions”

The speed in which Pope Francis is assembling and building his One World Religion is astonishing. He said in the same meeting “Let us put aside the religious dimension” and let us “make an appeal to all humanity”.

You are watching the prophesied One World Religion coming to life before your very eyes.


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Post by: christistruth on March 04, 2016, 01:44:06 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-says-that-the-muslim-invasion-of-europe-should-be-embraced/

Pope Francis Says That The Muslim Invasion Of Europe Should Be Embraced

"We can speak today of Arab invasion. It is a social fact," Pope Francis says with detachment, as if observed that the weather is cold. But he immediately added - and theorists of the "great change", dear to the far right, then it would remain disappointed - "how many invasions has experienced Europe in the course of its history! But he has always been able to overcome herself, go ahead then they find themselves as increased by the exchange between cultures."

3/4/16

Pope Francis referred to an “Arab invasion” during a speech to a French Christian group this week, adding that Europe has been enhanced by previous influxes of people.

“And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.” Revelation 13:6 (KJV)

In an absolutely shocking statement yesterday, Pope Francis very matter-of-factly declared that the Muslim invasion of Europe is an established fact and that it if Europe wanted to survive they should embrace the millions of illegal migrants pouring across their borders. The website of the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano had this to say:

“We can speak today of Arab invasion. It is a social fact,” Pope Francis says with detachment, as if observed that the weather is cold. But he immediately added – and theorists of the “great change”, dear to the far right, then it would remain disappointed – “how many invasions has experienced Europe in the course of its history! But he has always been able to overcome herself, go ahead then they find themselves as increased by the exchange between cultures.” – source

The pope then went on to say that Europe needs a “healthy secularism” where all religious points of view are tolerated and accepted:


“A healthy secularism includes an opening to all forms of transcendence, according to the different religious and philosophical traditions”

The speed in which Pope Francis is assembling and building his One World Religion is astonishing. He said in the same meeting “Let us put aside the religious dimension” and let us “make an appeal to all humanity”.

You are watching the prophesied One World Religion coming to life before your very eyes.

Pope Francis referred to an “Arab invasion” during a speech to a French Christian group this week, adding that Europe has been enhanced by previous influxes of people.

 ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D

“A healthy secularism includes an opening to all forms of transcendence, according to the different religious and philosophical traditions”

The speed in which Pope Francis is assembling and building his One World Religion is astonishing. He said in the same meeting “Let us put aside the religious dimension” and let us “make an appeal to all humanity”.

You are watching the prophesied One World Religion coming to life before your very eyes.


He IS LEADING MILLIONS into the Lake of Fire... But remember, God is in control.


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 16, 2016, 10:31:32 am
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/15/470495530/pope-francis-sets-canonization-date-for-mother-teresa-sept-4?sc=tw
3/15/16
Pope Francis Sets Canonization Date For Mother Teresa: Sept. 4

Making official what was set in motion back in December, Pope Francis has approved the canonization of five new saints, including Mother Teresa. Hundreds of Mother Teresa's followers are expected to visit Rome when she's canonized on Sept. 4.

In addition to Mother Teresa, who was famously a tireless advocate for the poor, Francis approved final canonization plans for four other saints Tuesday. Here are there names, along with the Vatican's brief description of their lives and their canonization date:

Stanisłaus of Jesus and Mary (né Jan Papczynski; 1631-1701) of Poland — "a member of the Piarist Order. After leaving the Piarists, Bd Stanisłaus founded the Marians of the Immaculate Conception." (June 5)

Maria Elizabeth Hesselblad (1870-1957) of Sweden — "a convert from Lutheranism, founded a new branch of Bridgettine sisters, dedicated to working and praying for the unity of Scandinavian Christians with the Church. She will be the first Swedish saint in more than 600 years." (June 5)

José Gabriel del Rosario (1840–1914) — "from Pope Francis' native Argentina, known as the 'gaucho priest.' Like the famous Argentinian cattlemen, he traveled on a mule throughout the vast territory of his parish in order to be close to the members of his flock." (Oct. 16)

José Luis Sánchez del Río (1913–1928) of Mexico — "Blessed José was just fourteen-years-old when he was martyred by the Mexican government during the Cristeros War, after refusing to deny his Faith." (Oct. 16)

As we reported when Francis formally attributed a second miracle to Mother Teresa:

"Mother Teresa has often been described as a citizen of the world. Here's how she once described herself: 'By blood, I am Albanian. By citizenship, an Indian. By faith, I am a Catholic nun. As to my calling, I belong to the world. As to my heart, I belong entirely to the Heart of Jesus.'

"Born Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu, Mother Teresa was the third child of an Albanian couple who ran a grocery. Her father died when she was around 8 years old, and when she turned 18, she joined the Irish-based Sisters of Loreto, where she received the name Sister Mary Teresa."


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Post by: Mark on March 24, 2016, 10:49:23 pm
Pope Francis calls on priests to stand with ‘poor, outcast, and oppressed’

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e4/9b/8a/e49b8aafd18326df75f5cf940e498613.jpg)

Pope Francis called on priests around the world to defend “the poor, the outcast, and the oppressed” on Thursday, a day marked on the Catholic calendar as a commemoration of the founding of the priesthood by Jesus Christ.

rest: http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/03/24/pope-francis-calls-on-priests-to-stand-with-poor-outcast-and-oppressed/


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Post by: Mark on April 08, 2016, 07:18:35 pm
Pope Francis calls to accept gays

In a major shift of Catholic tenets of faith, pope releases paper instructing Catholics on how to live, tells them to accept homosexuals.   

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/210567


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Post by: Mark on May 09, 2016, 08:03:58 pm
Archbishop: Pope told me we must avoid speaking ‘plainly’ on Communion for remarried

Archbishop Bruno Forte, the Archbishop of Chieti-Vasto, Italy, said during a presentation on the pope’s recent exhortation Amoris Laetitia that Pope Francis told him at the Synod on the Family that he didn’t want to speak “plainly” about the question of admitting remarried divorcees to Holy Communion because doing so would make a “terrible mess.”

Forte claimed that the pope told him: “If we speak explicitly about communion for the divorced and remarried, you do not know what a terrible mess we will make. So we won’t speak plainly, do it in a way that the premises are there, then I will draw out the conclusions.”

“Typical of a Jesuit,” Abp Forte reportedly joked.

Forte’s comment was published on the Italian news site Zonalocale.it and translated by OnePeterFive.

In Pope Francis’ exhortation from the Synod, Amoris Laetitia, the only reference to the question of Communion for the divorced and remarried comes in footnote 351.

Though it lacks the force and clarity of previous magisterial pronouncements against granting Communion to the remarried – most notably in Pope John Paul II’s Familiaris Consortio – liberals have nevertheless seized on it to justify the practice.

Footnote 351 comes at paragraph 305, where the pope says that despite an “objective situation of sin” it is possible that a person “can be living in God’s grace, can love and can also grow in the life of grace and charity, while receiving the Church’s help to this end.” There he includes the footnote, which states, “In certain cases, this can include the help of the sacraments,” followed by references to both Confession and the Eucharist.

Pope Francis later said he doesn’t remember the controversial footnote.

Numerous commentators have argued that the paragraph and footnote contradict the previous teaching of Familiaris Consortio, where Pope John Paul II explained that unless a couple in an invalid marriage abstains from marital intimacy, they would be ineligible to receive the Sacraments.

Familiaris Consortio states:

    …the Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried. They are unable to be admitted thereto from the fact that their state and condition of life objectively contradict that union of love between Christ and the Church which is signified and effected by the Eucharist. Besides this, there is another special pastoral reason: if these people were admitted to the Eucharist, the faithful would be led into error and confusion regarding the Church's teaching about the indissolubility of marriage.

Forte said that Amoris Laetitia doesn’t change doctrine, but applies it mercifully.

The message of the exhortation, he says, is, “Don’t judge, but reach out to all with the gaze of mercy, but without renouncing the Truth of God.  It is easy to say, ‘that family has failed’; more difficult to help it not to fail.  No one ought to feel themselves excluded from the Church.”

Pope Francis personally chose Forte to be the special secretary to the synods.  Forte is credited with writing the 2014 synod’s controversial mid-term Relatio, which suggested the Church emphasize the “positive” aspects of actions it considers to be mortally sinful, such as cohabitation and homosexuality.  Forte has also said that same-sex unions have “rights that should be protected.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/italian-archbishop-claims-pope-didnt-want-to-address-communion-question-pla

Just saying, the cookie god isnt real either.  ::)


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Post by: Mark on May 18, 2016, 12:20:51 am
‘State must be secular, single-religion states end badly’ – Pope Francis to French Catholic paper

 Pope Francis believes that a healthy secularism paired with a strong law that grants above all a religious freedom is the key to a successful and peaceful state, while states tied to a single religion don’t have a future.

“Confessional states end badly…I believe that secularism accompanied by a strong law which guarantees religious freedom provides a framework for moving forward,” the Pontiff said in an interview with Guillaume Goubert, director of French Roman Catholic newspaper La Croix.

Addressing increasing worries of Christians that Islam is becoming ever more widespread in Europe, Pope Francis says that everyone has a right to exercise the religion he or she chooses, and a secular state as opposed to a single-religion one can grant this opportunity.

“We are all equal, as sons of God or [creations] of our personal dignity. But everyone should have the freedom to exercise their own faith. If a Muslim woman wants to wear a hijab, she should be able to. Similarly so, if a Catholic wants to wear a cross. We must have an opportunity to profess our faith not on the sidelines of the [national] culture but within it,” Francis said.

He mildly criticized France in this regard, where concerns over Islam and its confusion with extremism have been spreading exponentially following terror attacks that rocked its capital.

“The small criticism I’ll be addressing to France in this regard is that France exaggerates secularism. This stems from a way of considering religion as a subculture and not a whole culture. France should take a step forward on this issue to accept that openness to transcendence is everyone’s right.”

When asked about current controversial social issues, such as the legality of euthanasia or same-sex marriages, the Pontiff once again stated that social issues must be dealt with by secular authorities, but that people's personal beliefs and convictions should be respected when a certain law is adopted.

READ MORE: Russian Orthodox Patriarch declares worldwide ‘holy war’ on terrorism

“It is the parliament that must discuss, argue, explain, reason. Thus the society will evolve and grow. But when the law is passed, the state must respect [religious beliefs]. In each legal structure, objections of conscience must be present for it is a human right. Including for a government official, who is also a human being,” Francis said, adding that a truly secular state cannot exist without criticism and respect for its people and their beliefs.

“The state must respect criticism. That is true secularism,” Francis said.

https://www.rt.com/news/343258-pope-french-catholic-paper/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 18, 2016, 09:31:46 pm
Pope Francis Likens Jesus to ISIS, Says Muslims Must Breed With Europeans

Francis claims ISIS similar to Jesus sending his disciples to all nations

In a shocking interview, Pope Francis likened Jesus Christ to ISIS and said Muslim migrants must breed with Europeans to counter “declining birth rates.”

“Today, I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam,” he told French newspaper La Croix. “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam, however, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

The Pope also said he “dreaded” hearing about the “Christian roots of Europe” because, to him, they take on “colonialist overtones” and he called on European nations to “integrate” Muslim migrants into the continent.

“This integration is all the more necessary today since, as a result of a selfish search for well-being, Europe is experiencing the grave problem of a declining birth rate,” he stated. “A demographic emptiness is developing.”

His opinions are stunningly similar to those of top Iman Sheikh Muhammad Ayed, who said Muslims should exploit the migrant crisis to breed with Europeans and “conquer their countries.”

“Europe has become old and decrepit and needs human reinforcement… they are not motivated by compassion for the Levant, its people and its refugees… soon, we will trample them underfoot, Allah willing,” he stated. “Throughout Europe, all the hearts are enthused with hatred toward Muslims. They wish that we were dead, but they have lost their fertility, so they look for fertility in our midst.”

“We will give them fertility! We will breed children with them, because we shall conquer their countries!”

Pope Francis also promoted socialism during the interview.

“A completely free market does not work,” he claimed. “Markets in themselves are good but they also require a fulcrum, a third party, or a state to monitor and balance them.”

“In other words, [what is needed is] a social market economy.”

It’s been estimated that in the 20th century alone, socialism and communism resulted in the deaths of at least 130 million people.

http://www.infowars.com/pope-francis-likens-jesus-to-isis-says-muslims-migrants-must-breed-with-europeans/


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 22, 2016, 11:11:59 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-celebrates-islamization-europe-says-muslim-migration-necessary/

Pope Francis Celebrates The Islamization Of Europe, Says Muslim Migration ‘Necessary’

Pope Francis also claimed Europe’s declining birth rate is a “grave problem” that makes mass Muslim migration “necessary.” He described this “demographic emptiness” as a result of “a selfish search for well-being.”

5/22/16

The Pope has hailed the election of Sadiq Khan as “Muslim” mayor of London, claimed mass Muslim migration is “necessary” for Europe, and blamed Paris and Brussels for the attacks on European soil

EDITOR’S NOTE: Pope Francis says that Europe should become more like Lebanon, citing the relationship between Christians and Muslims there. What he failed to mention was that after an influx of Muslim migrants in the 1970’s, tens of thousands of Lebanese Christian were ethnically cleansed and driven out of the country.

In an interview with French newspaper  La Croix, Pope Francis strongly implied that the terrorists who attacked Paris and Brussels did so because they “grew up in a ghetto.”

He also applauded the election of Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, stating it “illustrates the need for Europe to rediscover its capacity to integrate,” evoking “Pope Gregory the Great, who negotiated with the people known as barbarians who were subsequently integrated.”

However, the situation of mass Muslim migration that Europe now faces is distinctly different: the “barbarians” (the term referring in this case to Franks, Lombards and Visigoths) were Europeans, and did not follow a religion which historically, violently, conquered dozens of countries and preached supremacy.

The bloodless conquest of Europe is now well underway:



Even today, the Muslim country Indonesia is currently committing what has been widely described as a genocide against Christian West Papuans with mass migration, violence and the banning of Papuan nationalism.

Pope Francis also claimed Europe’s declining birth rate is a “grave problem” that makes mass Muslim migration “necessary.” He described this “demographic emptiness” as a result of “a selfish search for well-being.”

The Pope stated that Muslims and Christians need to learn to live peacefully together, citing Lebanon as a good example of this. Though Lebanon is perhaps not the best illustration for the Pontiff to draw upon.

Lebanon was a majority Christian country up until the 1960s.  In the 1970s, after an influx of Muslim refugees, tens of thousands of Christians were ethnically cleansed from the country.

Since 2005 there have been as many as 14 terrorist attacks a year in Lebanon, and the UK government’s travel advice on Lebanon advises against traveling to certain parts of the country as there is a “high threat from terrorism.”

Pope Francis criticised France’s “exaggeration” of the separation of church and state, expressing disapproval of the country’s ban on the niqab in public places. This type of veil has been banned in Muslim-majority countries Azerbaijan and Chad.  Polls show the vast majority of people in Islamic countries, apart from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, widely disapprove of the garment.

Suggesting that the fear of migration in Europe is partly based on a fear of Islam,  Pope Francis was asked whether he felt that such fears are justified. He said he didn’t think that “there is a fear of Islam as such but of [Islamic State] and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam.”

“It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest,” the Pope said. source


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 23, 2016, 12:41:50 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/chrislam-pope-francis-sunni-islams-top-imam-sheikh-ahmed-al-tayeb-historic-meeting-vatican/

CHRISLAM UPDATE: Pope Francis And Sunni Islam’s Top Imam Hold Historic Meeting At Vatican

In a statement on the trip, Al-Azhar, an institution that also comprises a prestigious seat of learning, said Tayeb had accepted Pope Francis's invitation in order to "explore efforts to spread peace and co-existence."

5/23/16

Pope Francis met the grand imam of Cairo’s Al-Azhar Mosque at the Vatican on Monday in a historic encounter that was sealed with a hugely symbolic hug and exchange of kisses

The first Vatican meeting between the leader of the world’s Catholics and the highest authority in Sunni Islam marks the culmination of a significant improvement in relations between the two faiths since Francis took office in 2013.

“Our meeting is the message,” Francis said in a brief comment at the start of his meeting with Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, Vatican officials told a small pool of reporters covering the event.

In a statement on the trip, Al-Azhar, an institution that also comprises a prestigious seat of learning, said Tayeb had accepted Pope Francis’s invitation in order to “explore efforts to spread peace and co-existence.”

The “very cordial” meeting lasted around 30 minutes, the Vatican said in a statement after the talks. In all, the imam spent just over an hour at St Peter’s. Tayeb’s decision to fly to Rome, unexpectedly announced last week, followed the easing of serious tensions that marked the reign of Francis’s predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Ties were badly soured when the now-retired Benedict made a September 2006 speech in which he was perceived to have linked Islam to violence, sparking deadly protests in several countries and reprisal attacks on Christians.

Pope John-Paul II met the then-grand imam of Al-Azhar in Cairo in 2000, a year before the September 11 attacks on New York transformed relations between the West and the Islamic world.

Monday’s visit was effectively the long-delayed reciprocal meeting and the Vatican said that both clerics had “underlined the great significance of this new meeting”

Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi said in a statement that the pope and the imam had “mainly addressed the common challenges faced by the authorities and faithful of the major religions of the world.”

These included working together for world peace, rejecting violence and terrorism, and the situation and protection of Christians against a backdrop of conflict and terrorism in the Middle East.”

Promoting ‘true Islam’

The pope presented the imam with a copy of his recent encyclical, Laudato Si’, a letter to the faithful in which he urges the world to wake up to the threat posed by climate change and also calls for a rebalancing of the economic relationship between the industrialised and developing worlds.

Tayeb decided to accept the invitation to Rome as a result of the numerous conciliatory gestures Francis has made to the Muslim world since being elected in early 2013.

“If it were not for these good positions the meeting would not be happening,” the imam’s deputy, Abbas Shuman, told AFP on Sunday.

Shuman said Tayeb would be carrying with him a message for both the West and Muslims designed to promote “true Islam and to correct misunderstandings created by extremist terrorist groups.”

“He encourages countries not to deal with their Muslim citizens as groups that present a threat,” Shuman said.

“And he encourages Muslims in Western society to meld with their societies… it is a message for both sides.”

After the tensions of the Benedict years, Francis moved quickly to set a new tone, sending a personal message to the Muslim world to mark the end of the first month of Ramadan of his pontificate.

The Argentinian pontiff followed up by pushing various inter-faith initiatives and he was accompanied by both Rabbi Abraham Skorka and Islamic studies professor Omar Abboud when he visited Jordan and Israel in 2014.

But perhaps the gesture that clinched the deal was the most dramatic piece of political theatre of his papacy: his April visit to the migrant crisis island of Lesbos which concluded with him bringing three Syrian Muslim families back to the Vatican. source


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on May 23, 2016, 08:18:44 pm
Pope Francis Said Yesterday That Christians Spreading The Gospel Much The Same As Muslims Waging Jihad

“I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam,” he told La Croix. “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam.” “However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

In an interview published Tuesday with France’s La Croix, Pope Francis argued that Jesus’ call to spread the Gospel differs little from the jihad waged by radical Islamic terrorists

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:4,5 (KJV)

The pope explained how ISIS’ “war of conquest” has bred a non-justified fear of Islam among Western countries:

    “I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam,” he told La Croix. “It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam.” “However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”

Pope Francis went on to talk about his dream of Chrislam, the merging of Christianity and Islam:

    “Ultimately, co-existence between Christians and Muslims is still possible. I come from a country where they co-habit on good terms. Muslims come to venerate the Virgin Mary and St George. Similarly, they tell me that for the Jubilee Year Muslims in one African country formed a long queue at the cathedral to enter through the holy door and pray to the Virgin Mary. In Central Africa, before the war, Christians and Muslims used to live together and must learn to do so again. Lebanon also shows that this is possible.”

Every time he opens is mouth, Pope Francis is defending Islam, pushing for increased Muslim migration, speaking against having national borders, and promoting Chrislam. He is the closest thing we have today to a functional Antichrist.

“And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.” Revelation 17:7 (KJV)

 http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-said-yesterday-that-spreading-the-gospel-is-much-the-same-as-waging-jihad/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 09, 2016, 11:19:29 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/confirmed-pope-francis-will-join-hillsong-united-39-others-laodicean-lovefest/

CONFIRMED: Pope Francis Will Join Hillsong United & 39 Others For ‘Together 2016’

"That His Holiness would choose to speak into this historic day is a testament to the urgency and the need for followers of Jesus to unite in prayer for our nation and our world. We are humbled and honored by his involvement and are eager to share his message with the crowd that gathers at Together 2016." - Nick Hall, Founder of PULSE

6/9/16

Pope Francis To Address Christian gathering At National Mall Event ‘Together 2016’ With Special Video Message

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: The sellout of the professing Laodicean Christian church is nearly complete, as evidenced by this upcoming event featuring Pope Francis and 39 other groups like Hillsong United on July 16, in Washington. The founder of this “christian” festival refers to the pope as “his holiness”, so that tells you exactly what kind of event it’s going to be. If you don’t know enough Bible to know that the Catholic Church is the **** of Babylon mentioned in Revelation 17 and 18, then you don’t know enough Bible. And if you can join forces with the head of the **** of Babylon and not have your conscience bother you, then maybe you’re not saved at all. Just something to think about.


“That His Holiness would choose to speak into this historic day is a testament to the urgency and the need for followers of Jesus to unite in prayer for our nation and our world. We are humbled and honored by his involvement and are eager to share his message with the crowd that gathers at Together 2016.” – Nick Hall, Founder of PULSE

“His Holiness”, eh? Listen to what the Bible has to say about the pope and the Catholic Church:

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:4-6 (KJV)

WHAT: PULSE, a student-led evangelism movement, has called 1 million Americans to gather on the National Mall on July 16th and join in prayer for the nation at an event called “Together 2016”
•The free event will feature 40+ well-known speakers, recording artists, authors and leaders from various backgrounds for a day of unified prayer and worship
•Event will feature a personal video message from His Holiness, Pope Francis
•More than 1,000 churches nationwide have pledged attendance, with more pledges anticipated in the coming months.
•More than 8,000 service opportunities will be available within a 100-mile radius of Washington, D.C. during the week before and after Together 2016.

WHEN: July 16, 2016, 9am – 9pm

WHERE: National Mall, Washington, D.C.

WHO: Confirmed speakers and artists include: Hillsong United, Kari Jobe, Francis Chan, Lecrae, Nick Hall, Passion, Crowder, Kirk Franklin, Ravi Zacharias, Jeremy Camp, Andy Mineo, Michael W. Smith, Lauren Daigle, Christine Caine, Mark Batterson, Matthew West, Jo Saxton, Mike Kelsey, Casting Crowns, John K. Jenkins, Sr., Josh McDowell, Laurel Bunker, Luis Palau, Tedashii, Tasha Cobbs, Lacey Sturm, York Moore, Trip Lee, Sammy Rodriguez, Ronnie Floyd, Reid Saunders, Bob Lenz, Jose Zayas, Jennie Allen, Nabeel Qureshi, Ann Voskamp, KB, Christine D’Clario, Matt Maher, Sammy Wanyonyi, Lindsey Nobles, Amena Brown, and Josh Brewer; with a special message from His Holiness, Pope Francis.

WHY: “The times call for this moment,” said Nick Hall, founder of PULSE. “It is time to gather on a large scale and draw our attention back to where it really matters. Our hope and our help are found in Jesus, not in political leaders. We are going to come together, seek God, pray for our nation and pray for unity.  Our goal is to gather as a unified front, seeking Jesus and change for our nation through prayer and worship.”

Learn more at Reset2016.com

BACKGROUND:
About PULSE
Founded by Nick Hall in 2006, PULSE is a prayer and evangelism movement on mission to empower the Church and awaken culture to the reality of Jesus. Since PULSE’s founding, we have linked arms with hundreds of ministries and churches around the world to fuel evangelistic movements. Whether hosting a big outreach event or providing the evangelistic voice at another organization’s event, whether training evangelists on American college campuses or overseas in Africa, the common goal of everything we do is to share the hope of Jesus. Learn more at PulseMovement.com.

About Nick Hall
As a voice to the next generation, Nick Hall has shared the Gospel at hundreds of events to millions of students and is regularly featured as a speaker for pastors’ gatherings, student conferences, training events, and festivals around the world. Nick is the author of the forthcoming book Reset: Jesus Changes Everything (Multnomah, June 7, 2016). He sits on the leadership teams of US Lausanne Committee, the National Association of Evangelicals, and the student advisory team for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA), and is a partner evangelist with the Luis Palau Association. In the spring of 2011, he was welcomed to the National Facilitation Committee for the Mission America Coalition (MAC). Nick, his wife, Tiffany, and their two children live in Minneapolis, MN.

To view the original version on PR Newswire, visit:http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pope-francis-to-address-americans-at-national-mall-event-together-2016-with-special-video-message-300280257.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 18, 2016, 02:47:51 pm
Conservatives decry Pope Francis’s statement that ‘the great majority’ of marriages are religiously null

After Pope Francis on Thursday said “the great majority” of Catholic marriages are religiously null because people don’t understand the concept of a lifetime commitment, some prominent traditional Catholics lambasted the pontiff as “irresponsible” and that his statement could possibly discourage people from working on their marriage relations.   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/16/pope-francis-the-great-majority-of-marriages-are-null-because-couples-dont-understand-what-theyre-doing/


Enough is enough, Pope Francis should resign
 :o
Pope Francis’s three-year-old papacy, marred by controversy from the beginning, has hit a new low. After Jorge Mario Bergoglio was elected to succeed Pope Benedict XVI in 2013, he quickly justified his reputation as an unconventional character who put himself on both sides of an argument with vaguely worded pronouncements. From his “Who am I to judge?” statement on gay people that seemed to offer a hint at a change in church teaching, to his fumbles on contraception, to his recent claim that Donald Trump is not Christian, his off-the-cuff remarks cause headlines across the globe, often followed by some sort of “clarification” from the Holy See Press Office.   

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/17/enough-is-enough-pope-francis-should-resign.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 26, 2016, 06:32:34 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-says-catholic-church-members-should-ask-gays-forgiveness/

Pope Francis Says That The Catholic Church Members Should ‘Ask Gays For Forgiveness’

Church teaches that homosexual tendencies are not sinful but homosexual acts are and that homosexuals should try to be chaste. Francis repeated a slightly modified version of the now-famous "Who am I to judge" comment he made about gays on the first foreign trip after his election in 2013.

6/26/16

Pope Francis said on Sunday that Christians and the Roman Catholic Church should seek forgiveness from homosexuals for the way they had treated them.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Yeah, well I am still waiting for the Catholic Church to issue their apology to all the thousands of young children their priests molested, and then a second apology for the Vatican conspiring to cover it up and keep it a secret. When do you think we can expect that one, Francis?

Speaking to reporters aboard the papal plane taking him back to Rome from Armenia, he also said the Church should ask forgiveness for the way it has treated women, for turning a blind eye to child labor and for “blessing so many weapons” in the past.

In the hour-long freewheeling conversation that has become a trademark of his international travels, Francis was asked if he agreed with recent comments by a German Roman Catholic cardinal that the Church should apologize to gays.



Francis looked sad when the reporter asked if an apology was made more urgent by the killing of 49 people at a gay club in Orlando, Florida this month. He recalled Church teachings that homosexuals “should not be discriminated against. They should be respected, accompanied pastorally.”


He added: “I think that the Church not only should apologize … to a gay person whom it offended but it must also apologize to the poor as well, to the women who have been exploited, to children who have been exploited by (being forced to) work. It must apologize for having blessed so many weapons.”

The Church teaches that homosexual tendencies are not sinful but homosexual acts are and that homosexuals should try to be chaste. Francis repeated a slightly modified version of the now-famous “Who am I to judge” comment he made about gays on the first foreign trip after his election in 2013.

“The questions is: if a person who has that condition, who has good will, and who looks for God, who are we to judge?”

FORGIVENESS, NOT JUST APOLOGY

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said that the pope, by saying “has that condition” did not imply a medical condition but “a person in that situation”. In Italian the word condition can also mean situation.

“We Christians have to apologize for so many things, not just for this (treatment of gays) but we must ask for forgiveness, not just apologize! Forgiveness! Lord, it is a word we forget so often!” he said.

Francis has been hailed by many in the gay community for being the most merciful pope toward them in recent history and conservative Catholics have criticized him making comments they say are ambiguous about sexual morality.

He told reporters on the plane “there are traditions in some countries, some cultures, that have a different mentality about this question (homosexuals)” and there are “some (gay) demonstrations that are too offensive for some”.

But he suggested that those were not grounds for discrimination or marginalization of gays.

The pope did not elaborate on what he meant by seeking forgiveness for the Church “having blessed so many weapons,” but it appeared to be a reference to some Churchmen who actively backed wars in the past.

In other parts of the conversation, Francis said he hoped the European Union would be able to give itself another form after the United Kingdom’s decision to leave.

“There is something that is not working in that bulky union, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water, let’s try to jump-start things, to re-create,” he said.

He also denied reports that former Pope Benedict, who resigned in 2013, was still exercising influence inside the Vatican.

“There is only one pope,” he said. He praised Benedict, 89, for “protecting me, having my back, with his prayers.” Framcos said he had heard that when some Church official had gone to Benedict to complain that Francis was too liberal, Benedict “sent them packing”.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 06, 2016, 12:21:06 pm
Priest ‘bewildered’ at Pope’s advice that pastors stay out of people’s moral lives

A prominent Washington D.C.-area monsignor was compelled to react to Pope Francis’ impromptu remarks made last month in which he warned that Catholic priests should not be “putting our noses into the moral life of other people.”

“Permit me to state my utter bewilderment at such a notion. As a priest, and especially as a confessor and spiritual director, this is my duty!” Msgr. Charles Pope wrote in a lengthy post, published in the National Catholic Register, regarding the Pope’s comments in a question-and-answer session after a conference on the family in Rome in mid-June.

At a general audience after the conference, the Pope was asked about how to balance Church teaching on the indissolubility of marriage while welcoming Catholics who are divorced and remarried.

Francis replied that neither “rigorism nor laxity” was the right response. “The Gospel chooses another way: welcoming, accompanying, integrating, discerning, without putting our noses in the ‘moral life’ of other people,” he said.

Msgr. Pope, who has led Bible studies at the White House and Congress in recent years and is pastor of Holy Comforter-St. Cyprian Church in Washington, also took exception to the Pope’s characterization of priests who were rigoristic as “animals” who are guilty of “pastoral cruelty” toward parishioners.

“Such a word should never have come out of his mouth, and I would hope for an apology for this offensive characterization, not merely a Vatican ‘clarification,’” he wrote. “I certainly have some differences with brother priests, I would call my differences with dissenting priests significant. But this does not permit me to call them animals, and the Pope, who seems to have done so, has no business doing it either."

“Admittedly, the recorded comments are hard to follow, but the cleansed Vatican transcript is more in the mode of ‘Let’s pretend this was never said as recorded’ rather than a clear denial — 'The Pope wants to say he not consider priest animals, even though he thinks some are too hard-lined on this matter.'"

He later added, “I pray that never again will we hear reported such a rude and unnecessary remark from this Pope or any Pope. No human person should be called an animal by a pope or anyone, for that matter. Metaphors and similes have their place in human discourse, but to univocally call a fellow human being an animal is out of line.”

Calling himself a simple priest “in the trenches” who is not an expert on Canon law, Msgr. Pope agreed that no pastor should “unnecessarily pry into the private lives of parishioners.”

Using a medical analogy, he argued that pastors need to know their parishioners’ personal issues to help them, just as a doctor treating a patient “with breathing difficulties and chest pains” would ask if he smoked or exercised. “Is a doctor putting his nose into the private life of the patient, or is he seeking necessary information?”

Similarly, a pastor “has the duty to know and assist the faithful in their moral life. Thus, if a baptism form indicates cohabitation, or single motherhood, he has a duty to teach. If, in confession, he finds evidence of sinful drives, or if a couple comes to him who are cohabiting, he must discuss this with them, explain why it is wrong and should stop and set forth the truth that alone sets us free.”

Msgr. Pope argued that “to fail to do so is not kindness, it is malpractice! … This is pastoral care, not snooping.” 

While most priests he knows would never refuse to baptize a single woman’s child, Msgr. Pope said, “Those who do, at times, delay baptism do so for other reasons [than cruelty] , such as little evidence for a well-founded hope that the child will be raised in the faith. There are some prudential judgments to be made and pastors are required to make them.”

Msgr. Pope then considered the reinterpretation or “spin” the Vatican put on the Pope’s comments, saying he had meant that priests were cruelly treating their parishioners like animals by refusing to baptize their children.

“Well, count me as less than relieved by this explanation,” he wrote, adding that it was still “highly disrespectful” to say priests are treating others like animals because they delay giving their children baptism “usually for a number of reasons.”

Msgr. Pope called for an end to  Francis’ “ad hoc, off-the-cuff, impromptu sessions, whether at 30,000 feet or at ground level.” They cause “much harm through confusion,” discourage and mislead the faithful and empower dissenters.

He concluded by saying these were his personal reflections and then offered a prayer.

“But I can assure you, dear reader, that the impact hits priests hard, and I cannot deny a certain weariness and discouragement at this point. I realize that such remarks of the Pope are not doctrinal, but just try and tell that to gleeful dissenters and the morally confused or misled in this world.

“Let us pray for our Holy Father and for the universal Church.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/msgr.-pope-calling-priests-animals-is-cruelty-to-clergy


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 11, 2016, 09:44:50 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7_zSOL11Y


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 16, 2016, 09:29:16 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/07/16/major-evangelical-revival-aims-to-uplift-traditional-christians-with-rap-rock-and-prayer/
7/16/16
‘God break racism!’ Evangelicals on D.C. Mall pray for hope and reconciliation

Rappers and pastors, spoken word poets and authors appealed Saturday to thousands of evangelicals gathered around the Washington Monument in baking heat to recommit to prayer and hope at a time of intense racial and political polarization and growing secularism.

People streamed into prayer tents, asking volunteers for prayers to “reset” their lives, their families, their country. They got on their knees by the thousands, appealing to God to “break racism” at the call of charismatic evangelist Lou Engle, one of dozens of preachers in the hours-long lineup. They told personal stories of division in their lives that brought them to America’s capital for what aimed to be one of the bigger faith outreach events in the United States in years. Possibly an entire Bible’s worth of verses was written on the t-shirts in the crowd.

The event, scheduled to last from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., ended just after 4 p.m. because of the excessive heat. U.S. Park Police and Nick Hall, who organized the event, said that emergency medical technicians were overwhelmed by a large number of people who passed out in the heat.

Hall told the crowd that the hastened ending was all right: “It was never about coming to the Mall. It was always about being sent from the Mall,” he said. “This is about sending a generation out from the Mall who are saying, ‘God, we wanna go — we wanna give everything for Jesus.'”

In the seven hours the event lasted, attendees heard impassioned prayers, sermons, songs, raps and poetry about unity in faith.

Calling people to their knees on the grass, Engle shouted references to Minneapolis, Ferguson and Dallas — now shorthand for America’s modern-day racial violence, places where police killed black men and where, more recently, a black soldier gunned down five white police officers.

In the audience was Heather Crowe, who came from Pennsylvania with her daughter and other female relatives seeking healing. Recently neighbors and even relatives had chided her 18-year-old daughter for dating an African-American, saying “Are you serious?” Between that and the recent police-involved killings, she said a big Christian concert suddenly seemed needed. Her family is white.

“It became more apparent we needed to be here, to feel like we were united,” Crowe said. Of her daughter, who is heading to college this fall, she said: “As a mother, you’re anxious for what the future holds for her. I’ve always told her to be a light in the darkness.”

The event, called “Together,” featured some of the biggest-name musicians and evangelists in contemporary evangelical Christianity. It was aimed at more theologically conservative young evangelicals, with organizers calling it a “reset” for Christians who feel exhausted from battling the mainstream culture and sidelined by secularism.

“I think a lot of believers that are teenagers feel that they’re the only Christian on their [sports] team, the only Christian who works at the McDonald’s where they work.” The huge concert-style gathering shows these young people “the church is alive,” Mark Hall, a youth pastor who is the lead singer of the rock band Casting Crowns, said after their set. “Teenagers need moments.”

Hall said the timing of the long-planned event, falling amid violent events worldwide, was fated. “It’s something that God saw coming. He saw that we were gonna need it.”

A new poll by Pew Research showed 41 percent of “evangelical or born-again” Protestants say it has become more difficult to be an evangelical Christian in the U.S. in recent years; 34% answered the question the same way in September 2014.

Evangelicals are deeply divided about the causes and solutions to racism. A new poll this week shows 73 percent of white evangelicals — the vast majority of evangelicals are white — say they would support Donald Trump, a candidate who 66 percent of Americans believe is biased against minority groups.

 [This rapper is trying to get his fellow evangelicals to talk about race. Not everyone is on board.] 

Anjelica and Joseph Tynes, an African-American couple who attended the event on Saturday, said they arrived hoping to hear a message of racial reconciliation aimed at evangelicals. Anjelica said she wondered beforehand if a one-time event could really make a difference, but when she saw the crowd on the Mall, she changed her mind. In fact, she thought the day of prayer would do more for racial healing than the presidential election could.

“If Trump’s in office, we’re responsible to pray for Trump,” she said. “If Hillary’s in office, we’re responsible to pray for Hillary.”

The Tyneses, like many others on the Mall, said they would not discuss whom they’re voting for, preferring instead to devote the day to prayer. There wasn’t a political sign or shirt in sight.

Adam Gordon, 32, and Josh Brooks, 25, were among the few to engage in political discussion during the event. Brooks said he’s thinking he’ll vote for Trump if the polls in November show him with a chance of winning New York, where the two friends live. Gordon burst out, “Why?!”

“Better than Hillary,” Brooks said.

Gordon shook his head. “Please don’t tell me you’re using Christianity to vote for Donald Trump,” he said, adding hat he would vote for a third-party candidate since he thinks neither Trump nor Clinton is sufficiently opposed to abortion.

Yonatan Estifanos, an engineer from Prince George’s County, said he hasn’t picked a presidential candidate yet. “God can use anybody,” he said.

In a country of racially and culturally homogeneous churches, the event’s attendees and its lineup were unusually diverse. And while many parts of evangelical America do not accept women as preachers, this event gave women equal billing with huge figures such as mega-preachers Francis Chan and Mark Batterson of Capitol Hill.

Popular writer Ann Voskamp and spoken word poet Amena Brown joined for an intense poem-prayer weaving images of Native Americans, slave ships and cotton pickers.

Grammy-winning African-American musician Lecrae rapped about the black experience in America: “Must be a thief; she locked the doors when I was walking by…. It’s hard to dream when your water ain’t clean…. Made in America. Mama told me that I belong here. Had to earn our stripes, learn our rights, fight for a home here. But I wouldn’t know anything about that; all I know is drugs and rap…. You better come save me, America.”

Together” is the brainchild of Hall, a 34-year-old evangelist and event planner. Almost all of the people appearing at the event Saturday were evangelical, but Hall shared a greeting from Pope Francis.


Francis did a promotional video for the event, encouraging viewers to “Give [Jesus] a try! You don’t have anything to lose!” but some evangelical leaders discouraged too much involvement of the Catholic leader.

“We’re not saying it’s time to compromise scripture,” Hall told the crowd. “But there is something about reaching across the aisle…. We didn’t come for a show, we didn’t come for a concert…. We need to hear from heaven!”

 [Here’s a playlist of the musicians at the evangelical “Together" gathering] 

Among those appearing were gospel musician Kirk Franklin and Dallas pastor Tony Evans, who are African American, and the mega-preachers Francis Chan, whose parents were from China, and Ravi Zacharias, who is of Indian descent.

Among the women appearing were Australian evangelist Christine Caine, women’s leadership minister Jennie Allen, campus pastor Laurel Bunker and spoken word poet Brown. Bunker and Brown are African American.

Paul Yi, 17, pointed out a lack of Asian-Americans in the lineup, despite the sometimes large patches of Asian-Americans in the audience. He attended the event with his Korean American church in Maryland.

But Yi said “It’s no problem. We’re all here to worship God. Don’t look at the worshippers.”

Rene Aviles, 35, came with his wife and two children in hopes that they would learn about unity in an embattled country. He said he would have liked to see more Latino speakers in the lineup, considering they are the largest minority group in evangelicalism at 11 percent.

“Deep down as a born El Salvadorean, yeah, that would have been nice to see,” Aviles said.

Such large faith gatherings are unusual today. “Together” is prompting conversations about what, if anything, today’s evangelicals agree should be revived. This group of Americans that makes up 25 percent of the U.S. population is divided about everything from gay rights and the existence of hell to whether the criminal justice system treats blacks and whites equally.

In an interview earlier this week, Hall said his goal was just to hold a huge, love-Jesus rally — something that has been mostly absent from American public life since the days of Billy Graham’s famed crusades.

“Everything now is protests: ‘I’m against this,’ or ‘I hate that.’ We really believe there is a longing to come together. We don’t have to agree on everything, but we can come together around the hope of Jesus,” he said. “There are moments when God’s people come together, and God does something that can heal, change, define generations.”

 [I’m a Christian radio host. Our music isn’t high art, but it’s just what people crave.] 

The big, milestone events in modern evangelical history include Campus Crusade for Christ’s Explo ’72 in Dallas, the men’s Promise Keepers gathering in 1997 and of course evangelical icon Graham’s public revivals, which ran for decades starting in the 1940’s and defined the public face of American Christianity in the 20th century.

But today many Americans — including evangelicals — are ambivalent about religious witnessing in public. They don’t want to make other people uncomfortable. Yet the concept of a huge revival looms large in the minds of evangelicals, even if they aren’t entirely comfortable with it.

Some evangelicals say the idea isn’t biblical, that one can pray for revival but can’t plan it, that only God can decide when. Some hold up two massive phases of revivals in the 1700’s and 1800’s called “Great Awakenings.”

Many evangelicals don’t have a particular mission in attending; they just wanted to come to a huge public event in a prominent spot where they can celebrate their faith. Conservative Christians feel increasingly sidelined in a culture that in many ways is rapidly secularizing and liberalizing.

“This is a rally. And evangelicals will go to a rally because they feel the need to be rallied,” said Ed Stetzer, executive director of the Billy Graham Center for Evangelism at Wheaton.



Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on July 27, 2016, 06:05:42 pm
POPE FRANCIS CALLS FOR ISRAEL TO GIVE UP THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS

The Holy See “has no illusions about the challenges involved in achieving a world free of nuclear weapons,” he admitted, but called for “concerted steps” for all nations to disarm. Gallagher also appeared to single out Israel in calling for “the establishment of zones free of nuclear weapons … especially in the Middle East.” Since 1963, the Vatican has opposed the possession of nuclear weapons, Newsweek reports.

THE HOLY SEE HAS NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES INVOLVED IN ACHIEVING A WORLD FREE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

“Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.” Zechariah 14:1-3 (KJV)

They don’t call him ‘Red Francis’ for nothing. Nuclear disarmament is a communist goal. The Vatican knows full well that Iran will use this to build more nuclear weapons, not less and that this deal ensures a world war and bloodshed. Then they put the blame on Israel for having nukes to defend herself. It’s reprehensible. These people aren’t stupid – they have a different agenda than we do.

We can no longer trust or believe any of our leaders and that certainly includes Pope Francis. His message next week will include climate change promotion, an open borders endorsement, the evils of capitalism and the goodness of socialism, and possibly the promotion of a one-world government and a unifying church under the UN.

THIS ISN’T YOUR FATHER’S CATHOLIC CHURCH ANYMORE.

The Vatican released a statement Tuesday officially welcoming the nuclear agreement between the P5+1 world powers (U.S., UK, China, France, Russia, Germany) and Iran, stating that the Holy See believes Tehran will reduce its nuclear capabilities in exchange for sanctions relief. In calling for a Middle East free of nuclear weapons, the Vatican also appeared to target Israel, given that it is the lone nuclear power in the region.

THE HOLY SEE HAS NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES INVOLVED IN ACHIEVING A WORLD FREE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE THROUGH THE NPT, THE CTBT, START, NEW START, UNILATERAL INITIATIVES AND OTHER MEASURES. BUT THESE STEPS ARE LIMITED, INSUFFICIENT, AND OFTEN FROZEN IN SPACE AND TIME. THE VATICAN “VALUES POSITIVELY THIS AGREEMENT BECAUSE IT CONSIDERS THAT THE WAY TO RESOLVE DISPUTES AND DIFFICULTIES SHOULD ALWAYS BE THAT OF DIALOGUE AND NEGOTIATION,” ARCHBISHOP PAUL GALLAGHER SAID IN A STATEMENT. ALSO DESERVING OF SUPPORT IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ZONES FREE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND OTHER WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.  FOR ITS PART, THE IAEA’S INDISPENSABLE ROLE IN NUCLEAR SAFETY AND WASTE DISPOSAL, VERIFICATION AND MONITORING WILL BECOME EVER MORE IMPORTANT AS THE USE OF PEACEFUL NUCLEAR ENERGY EXPANDS AND AS THE WORLD MOVES TOWARD NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT. SOURCE

IN ADDRESSING THE 59TH GENERAL CONFERENCE OF THE INTERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY, THE VATICAN’S CHIEF DIPLOMAT ADDED:

IT IS CLEAR THAT THE AGREEMENT REQUIRES FURTHER EFFORTS AND COMMITMENT BY ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED IN ORDER FOR IT TO BEAR FRUIT. WE HOPE THAT THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF [THE NUCLEAR DEAL] WILL ENSURE THE PEACEFUL NATURE OF IRAN’S NUCLEAR PROGRAM UNDER THE [NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY] AND WILL BE A DEFINITIVE STEP TOWARD GREATER STABILITY AND SECURITY IN THE REGION.

In his address calling for a worldwide reduction of nuclear weapons, Archbishop Gallagher added that “spending on nuclear weapons squanders the wealth of nations” and said that “the dubious strategic rationales for maintaining and even strengthening” nuclear stockpiles are “morally problematic.”

Gallagher added, “How are these expenditures consistent with progress towards nuclear disarmament?”

THE HOLY SEE “HAS NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES INVOLVED IN ACHIEVING A WORLD FREE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS,” HE ADMITTED, BUT CALLED FOR “CONCERTED STEPS” FOR ALL NATIONS TO DISARM.

Gallagher also appeared to single out Israel in calling for “the establishment of zones free of nuclear weapons … especially in the Middle East.” Since 1963, the Vatican has opposed the possession of nuclear weapons, Newsweek reports.

The news about the Vatican’s pro-Iran deal position comes as Pope Francis is set to visit Washington, D.C., on September 22. He will then be welcomed to the White House by President Obama on the 23rd. On the 24th, he is set to address a joint session of the U.S. Congress.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/new-world-order-pope-francis-vatican-calls-israel-give-up-nuclear-weapons/


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Post by: Mark on August 02, 2016, 02:05:26 am
12 Times Pope Francis Has Openly Promoted A One World Religion Or A New World Order

On Sunday, Pope Francis told hundreds of thousands of young people gathered for World Youth Day in Poland that they need to “believe in a new humanity” and that they should refuse “to see borders as barriers”.  Every two or three years, Catholics from all over the planet converge for one of these giant conferences, and as you will see below the Pope has not been shy about using historic occasions to promote his agenda.  Unfortunately, it has become exceedingly clear that his agenda includes moving humanity toward a one world religion and a new world order.  Of course Pope Francis is not going to use those exact phrases, but at this point it is very obvious what he is trying to do.  If you don’t believe me now, perhaps you will see things differently after you have viewed the evidence that I have compiled in the rest of this article.

Let’s start with what the Pope had to say at the World Youth Day conference on Sunday…

“People may judge you to be dreamers, because you believe in a new humanity, one that rejects hatred between peoples, one that refuses to see borders as barriers and can cherish its own traditions without being self-centered or small-minded,” Francis told his flock.

By itself, this statement is not that dramatic.  But when you put it into the context of everything else Pope Francis has done and said over the past couple of years, a clear pattern begins to emerge…

May 2016: Pope Francis welcomed one of the top Sunni clerics in the world to the Vatican, and he reportedly told the cleric that “our meeting is the message“.  And mainstream news outlets all over the planet clearly understood what was being communicated.  For example, the Daily Mail article about this meeting was entitled “Pope embraces grand imam at historic Vatican meeting in a bid to bring the Catholic and Muslim churches together“.

January 2016: The Vatican releases an extremely disturbing video in which Pope Francis declared that all of the major world religions are “seeking God or meeting God in different ways” and that ultimately “we are all children of God”.  The video also featured leaders from various major religions, and they are shown declaring fidelity to their particular gods.  First, we see a female Buddhist cleric tell us “I have confidence in the Buddha“, and that is followed by a Jewish rabbi declaring “I believe in God“.  As the video goes on, a Catholic priest announces “I believe in Jesus Christ“, and last of all an Islamic leader boldly declares “I believe in God, Allah“.  If you have not seen the video yet, you can watch the entire thing right here.  After watching that video, nobody can deny that the Vatican is openly promoting a one world religion.

November 2015: Pope Francis declared that fundamentalism, even Christian fundamentalism, is a “sickness” during remarks in which he stressed the similarity of the major religions.

September 2015: Pope Francis traveled to New York City to deliver a speech that kicked off a conference during which the United Nations unveiled a “new universal agenda” for humanity.

September 2015: During a stop at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, Pope Francis stressed the unity between Christianity and Islam.  These words were directly spoken by him…

I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters: Firstly, my greetings as they celebrate the feast of sacrifice. I would have wished my greeting to be warmer. My sentiments of closeness, my sentiments of closeness in the face of tragedy. The tragedy that they suffered in Mecca.

In this moment, I give assurances of my prayers. I unite myself with you all. A prayer to almighty god, all merciful.

July 2015: During a trip to Ecuador, Pope Francis spoke of the need for “a new economic and ecological world order” in which the wealth of the planet is “shared by everyone”.

July 2015: Pope Francis denounced global capitalism and refers to its excesses as the “dung of the devil“.

June 2015: Pope Francis called for “a new global political authority” that would have the resources necessary “to deal with the world’s economic problems and injustices”.

October 2014: Pope Francis publicly embraced the theory of evolution by making statements such as these…

-“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so.”

-“The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.”

-“Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

By fully embracing the theory of evolution, Pope Francis has aligned himself with the leftist social engineers that are seeking to merge humanity into a socialist new world order, and he has aligned himself against “fundamentalists” that believe that there is one true God that created the heavens and the earth.

June 2014: For the first time in the history of Catholicism, Pope Francis authorized “Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran” at the Vatican.  In ancient times, this would have been considered blasphemy, but today nobody really even notices when something like this happens.

March 2013:

During his very first ecumenical meeting as Pope, Francis made it very clear that he believes that Christians and Muslims both “worship the one God”…

I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs.

Can you see the pattern?

Pope Francis is all about bringing people together.  He wants to bring nations together, and he wants to bring religions together.  But in the end, what is the purpose for all of this unity?

An increasing number of “fundamentalist” Christians are concerned that Pope Francis is setting the stage for a one world religion and a new world order.  Merging all of the countries of the world into a giant superstate and merging all of the religions of the world into a single faith may sound like a good idea to many, but the truth is that it would just result in a level of tyranny that most people would not even dare to imagine.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/12-times-pope-francis-has-openly-promoted-a-one-world-religion-or-a-new-world-order


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Post by: Mark on August 02, 2016, 01:09:31 pm
Pope creates commission to study ordination of women as deacons - Breitbart

Pope Francis has formed a commission to study the role of female deacons in the Catholic Church.

In a meeting May 12 with the participants in the Plenary Assembly of Superiors General, he said the Vatican should establish a commission to study the history of women becoming deacons, “especially with regard to the first ages of the Church,” the Vatican’s press office said in a statement Monday.

“After intense prayer and mature reflection, Pope Francis has decided to institute the Commission for the Study of the Diaconate of Women,” the statement said.

Francis appointed Spanish Archbishop Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer as president of the commission and named six women and six men from academic institutions around the world.

Deacons, a clergy rank below priest, “are ordained as a sacramental sign to the church and to the world of Christ,who came ‘to serve and not to be served,’ ” according to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Deacons can baptize, witness marriages, and conduct wake and funeral services, but they cannot hear confessions. They cannot celebrate a Mass, but can give a homily.

Only married or celibate men over age 35 are now eligible to become deacons.

Two other commissions studied the historical role of women deacons since 1992 but neither led to changes.

An appointee to the new commission, Professor Phyllis Zagano of Hofstra University in New York, has written in favor of female deacons.

Zagano wrote in the Harvard Divinity Bulletin, “history documents women ordained to the diaconate from the earliest centuries of Christianity to the Middle Ages, when the diaconate faded as a separate order. As priests absorbed the work of deacons, ordination to the diaconate became simply a step in the cursus honorum on the way to priesthood. Fewer and fewer women — abbesses — were ordained as deacons, primarily for service within their own convents.”

During a meeting with members of the International Union of Superiors General, which represents 500,000 nuns worldwide, the Pope was asked why they can’t preach at Mass or be ordained as deacons. “I feel like a goalie, who is standing there waiting for the ball and not knowing where it’s going to come from, he said.

The Women’s Ordination Conference issued a statement that month saying “until women are included in all decision-making structures and as priests and bishops of the church, equality remains painfully denied.”

http://www.breitbart.com/news/pope-creates-commission-to-study-ordination-of-women-as-deacons/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on August 02, 2016, 05:39:04 pm
‘Pope Francis’ Defends Islam: ‘It’s Not Fair to Identify Islam With Violence’

has this guy been living under a rock his whole life?

Speaking aboard a plane en route back to Italy from Poland, the Roman Catholic leader Jorge Bergoglio, also known as Pope Francis, defended the Islamic religion and said that it is “not fair” to equate Islam with violence.

Bergoglio had been asked by reporters why he doesn’t speak against Islam when decrying terrorism, such as with the recent killing of a priest in France.

“I don’t like to talk about Islamic violence because every day when I look at the papers I see violence here in Italy— someone killing his girlfriend, someone killing his mother-in-law. These are baptized Catholics,” he said. “If I talk about Islamic violence, then I also have to talk of Catholic violence.”

“Not all Muslims are violent, just like not all Catholics are violent,” Bergoglio stated. “It’s like a mixed fruit salad. There is a bit of everything. There are violent people in all religions.”

He pointed to the Book of James, which talks about the tongue being harmful, and said that “fundamentalists” kill people with their mouths.

“I believe that in pretty much every religion there is always a small group of fundamentalists,” Bergoglio opined. “When fundamentalism comes to kill, it can kill with the language—the Apostle James says this, not me—and even with a knife, no?”

He also suggested that the global focus on obtaining wealth is likewise a form of terror.

“I know it dangerous to say this, but terrorism grows when there is no other option, and when money is made and it, instead of the person, is put at the center of the world economy,” Bergoglio said. “When you place at the center of the world economy the ‘god of money,’ that’s terrorism against all humanity.”

He stated that it is “not fair to identify Islam with violence and terrorism.”

“It’s not fair, and it’s not true,” Bergoglio asserted.

Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries in Plano, Texas told Christian News Network that while Bergoglio’s comments were partially true, he also discarded fact as well.

“The pope’s implication that not all Islam should be characterized as terrorists may be somewhat true. However, nearly all terrorist activity in the last 20 years has been carried out exclusively by Muslims,” he said. “This is not anyone’s opinion; this is a verifiable, indisputable, historical fact.”

Gendron found it odd that Bergoglio deflected from Islamic violence and used Scripture to state that “fundamentalists” commit terror with their tongues.

“For the pope to equate the horrendous terrorist activity of Islam to killing ‘with the language’ from James’ epistle is preposterous,” he opined. “How can beheading someone with a knife or burning people to death or destroying 3,000 lives in the World Trade Center be compared to insults and slander?”

Gendron said that when Bergoglio noted that he would have to speak of Catholic violence if he points to Islamic violence—he should do just that, to acknowledge the violent history of Roman Catholics against Protestants and unbelievers.

“Personally, I wish the pope would speak of the Roman Catholic Church’s history of violence,” he stated. “His Church tortured, mutilated, murdered and destroyed millions of people who would not bow their knee to Catholic popes during the dark ages and the Inquisition. The wickedness perpetrated against humanity by the pope’s religion is beyond comprehension.”

“Clearly, the pope’s remarks can be attributed to his desire to unite all religions under the power and authority of the papacy,” Gendron said. “By his flattering speech he continues to build bridges to Islam. His ultimate goal is to rebuild the religious tower of Babel.”

http://christiannews.net/2016/08/02/pope-francis-defends-islam-its-not-fair-to-identify-islam-with-violence/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 29, 2016, 12:06:45 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/pope-francis-chats-person-facebook-ceo-zuckerberg-122835578.html
Pope Francis chats in person with Facebook CEO Zuckerberg
8/29/16

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis has met with Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Zuckerberg's wife, Priscilla Chan, at the Vatican.

Vatican spokesman Greg Burke says one topic of discussion at Monday's meeting was "how to use communication technologies to alleviate poverty, encourage a culture of encounter, and make a message of hope arrive, especially to those most in need."

The atmosphere appeared informal, with the chat taking place in the Santa Marta residence, the guest house in Vatican City where the pope lives.

Zuckerberg wore a dark suit and tie for the occasion while Chan wore a black, knee-length dress.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 01, 2016, 07:26:50 pm
Pope Francis: Global Warming a ‘Sin,’ Man Can Atone by Recycling and ‘Car-Pooling’

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In his message for the “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation” Thursday, Pope Francis said that human-induced global warming, as well as a loss of biodiversity are “sins” against God, which must be atoned for by planting trees, avoiding the use of plastic and paper and “separating refuse.”

“Global warming continues, due in part to human activity,” Francis said, adding that “2015 was the warmest year on record, and 2016 will likely be warmer still.”

“This is leading to ever more severe droughts, floods, fires and extreme weather events. Climate change is also contributing to the heart-rending refugee crisis. The world’s poor, though least responsible for climate change, are most vulnerable and already suffering its impact,” he wrote.

Repeatedly citing the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, who has “courageously and prophetically continued to point out our sins against creation,” Francis made his own a new list of such environmental sins, which include pollution, global warming and deforestation.

For human beings to “destroy the biological diversity of God’s creation,” to “degrade the integrity of the earth by causing changes in its climate,” to “contaminate the earth’s waters, its land, its air, and its life–these are sins,” he wrote.

Summing up, the Pope stated that “to commit a crime against the natural world is a sin against ourselves and a sin against God.”

Lamenting “the devastation of the environment,” Francis said that “God gave us a bountiful garden, but we have turned it into a polluted wasteland of debris, desolation and filth.”

Specifically regarding a loss of biodiversity, the Pope suggested that now there are fewer species to give glory to God.

“We must not be indifferent or resigned to the loss of biodiversity and the destruction of ecosystems, often caused by our irresponsible and selfish behavior,” Francis said. “Because of us, thousands of species will no longer give glory to God by their very existence, nor convey their message to us. We have no such right.”

The Pope said that the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation was instituted in order to give believers an opportunity to “reaffirm their personal vocation to be stewards of creation.” It also furnishes an occasion to thank God for the gift of creation, to implore his help for its protection and to beg “his pardon for the sins committed against the world in which we live.”

During this Jubilee Year, “let us learn to implore God’s mercy for those sins against creation that we have not hitherto acknowledged and confessed,” Francis said, while proposing that Christians need to undergo an “ecological conversion.”

Now is the time to “acknowledge our sins against creation,” the Pope said. “Inasmuch as we all generate small ecological damage,” we are called to acknowledge “our contribution, smaller or greater, to the disfigurement and destruction of creation.”

“Let us repent of the harm we are doing to our common home,” he added.

If our ecological conversion is real, Francis said, it will lead to concrete ways of thinking and acting that are more respectful of creation.

Among these are “avoiding the use of plastic and paper, reducing water consumption, separating refuse, cooking only what can reasonably be consumed, showing care for other living beings, using public transport or car-pooling, planting trees, turning off unnecessary lights, or any number of other practices.”

In his message, the Pope also applauded “a growing global political consensus” regarding the environment, praising the adoption of “Sustainable Development Goals” as well as last December’s Paris Agreement on climate change, “which set the demanding yet fundamental goal of halting the rise of the global temperature.”

Apparently the pontiff’s prayers have already been heard, since scientists are now forecasting that 2017 will be a cooler year than 2016.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/09/01/pope-francis-global-warming-sin-man-can-atone-recycling-car-pooling/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 12, 2016, 07:52:37 pm
Pope Francis to address gathering of world’s wealthiest and most famous

Time/Fortune Global Forum 2016 announced that Pope Francis will give an address to their inaugural gathering of the world's top 500 CEOs and Time magazine’s 100 most influential people. The unprecedented meeting will take place in Rome and the Vatican on December 2-3. The two-day conference will be capped by an address from the Holy Father, Time announced Tuesday.

The grand event follows Time magazine’s nomination of Pope Francis as the Person of the Year in his election year of 2013. In a video titled “Why TIME chose Pope Francis,” TIME contributor Howard Chua-Eoan explained that it is Pope Francis’ “openness” to people with homosexual tendencies, women who have had abortions, and “divorced” and “remarried” Catholics that inspired the nomination. “He is just more open so these people are willing to come back to the Church without having to deal with the actual rules.”

Regarding the choice of placing the global conference in Rome and the Vatican, TIME explained that Pope Francis plays a central role in the efforts for social justice by speaking out on issues as global economics, the growing wealth gap, and his statement that the “distribution of the fruits of the earth and human labor is a moral obligation.”

“Time Inc. is honored to present this unique gathering of global influencers and to facilitate discussions around some of the most critical issues of our time. We are hopeful that this rare event in partnership with the Vatican has the potential to impact the way the world thinks about these issues,” said Joe Ripp, chairman and CEO of Time Inc.

With the motto “The 21st Century Challenge: Forging a New Social Compact,” CEOs from companies including IBM, Johnson & Johnson, McKinsey, PepsiCo, and Siemens as well as non-profit organizations, including the Rockefeller and Ford foundations will lead discussions aimed toward finding concrete solutions for problems of global health, food and water, energy, the environment, and financial inclusion to combat poverty on an international scale. The Rockefeller and Ford foundations have deep ties to Planned Parenthood and have supported efforts to spread abortion in other countries.

It is not the first time the world's rich and famous have been afforded unprecedented Vatican access. Forbes magazine revealed that the Sistine Chapel was rented out in 2014 to the Porsche company for a $10,000 a plate dinner and concert fundraiser. Last May, “The Edge,” guitar player for the Irish rock band U2, was invited to stage the first-ever rock concert in the Vatican’s Sistine Chapel. The concert was embedded in the framework of the Cellular Horizons Conference to combat cancer.

While the upcoming Global Forum certainly gives Pope Francis the possibility to get up close and personal with the stars, the question remains if the attendees will be able to grasp the Catholic spirit of helping the helpless. For the Catholic, the dignity of any person – rich or poor – comes from the dignity imbued by God in creating man in His image and likeness. The agenda-laden philanthropy of the major corporations is a far cry from selfless love; the foundation for giving oneself on one’s own expense to Christ in the neighbor, an example given freely by so many saints.

Pope Francis putting his head together with the most influential and rich people in the world – a world that usually has nothing good to say about the Church – might give the impression of submission to the world. The autonomy from the world’s machinations that Pope Francis enjoys merely by being the Vicar of Christ on Earth may be compromised by the world’s largest corporations trying to drag him to their side. Should not the Pope be the “stumbling stone” for those who seek self-gratification in their philanthropic works? The question remains: Does the Pope need the visits of these celebrities, or do the celebrities need them for their own careers?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/time-magazine-event-to-feature-pope-francis


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 05, 2016, 05:44:48 pm
POPE FRANCIS ISSUES CALL FOR TRANSGENDERS AND HOMOSEXUALS TO ‘BE EMBRACED’ BY CATHOLIC CHURCH

Pope Francis recounted the story of a Spanish transgender man who wrote him a letter recounting his transition from a woman to a man, who later married a woman. The Pope said: 'And I received them. And they were happy.'

POPE FRANCIS HAS SAID ALL TRANSSEXUALS AND HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD BE ‘WELCOMED’ AND EMBRACED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Luke 13:3 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Pope Francis is adamant that the Catholic Church must “welcome and accept transgenders and homosexuals” but does not say that homosexuality is a sin. Would the Jesus of the Bible turn away a homosexual who came to Him? No…but…the Jesus of the Bible would tell that man or women they needed to repent and turn from their sin. Pope Francis says they should be welcomed just as they are with no need for them to repent and get saved. That’s a doctrine of the Devil.

Francis said Jesus would never have turned away transgender people and revealed he had ministered to homosexuals as a priest, bishop and now as Pope.

‘When a person arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say, ‘Go away because you are homosexual’,’ the religious leader said.

POPE FRANCIS: GLOBAL WARMING IS SIN – HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT

https://youtu.be/AYqfjpq2Zmg

‘Each case must be welcomed, accompanied, studied, discerned and integrated. This is what Jesus would do today.’

FRANCIS SAID HE HAD MINISTERED TO GAY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
He said: ‘I’ve never abandoned them. When someone who has this condition comes before Jesus, Jesus would surely never say ‘go away because you’re gay’.’

Francis recounted the story of a Spanish transgender man who wrote him a letter recounting his transition from a woman to a man, who later married a woman.

The Pope said: ‘And I received them. And they were happy.’ source

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-issues-call-transgenders-homosexuals-embraced-catholic-church/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 25, 2016, 11:28:09 am
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-marching-orders-jesuits-superior-43012626
Pope Gives Marching Orders to Jesuits and New Superior
10/24/16

Pope Francis is giving marching orders to members of his Jesuit order and their new superior. He wants them to go to the "peripheries" to serve freely and obediently.

Francis slipped out of the Vatican Monday to address the assembly of Jesuits who on Oct. 14 elected their first-ever Latin American superior, the Rev. Arturo Sosa of Venezuela.

The Society of Jesus, as the Jesuits are formally known, is the largest religious order of priests and brothers in the Catholic Church.

In his remarks, Francis urged the priests to "walk together, freely and obediently, going to the peripheries where the others don't arrive."

In addition to the usual vows of poverty, chastity and obedience, Jesuits take a fourth vow of obedience to the pope regarding their mission.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 31, 2016, 03:50:04 pm
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a50150/pope-francis-lutherans-protestants/
Pope Francis Just Did What the Church Should Have Done Decades Ago

We applaud; others boo.

I suspect there are cranial detonations under a number of red beanies on the banks of the Tiber these days, and it's even money on who's revolving faster inside his crypt—Pope Leo X or the angry monk who so plagued his papacy. Papa Francesco is in Sweden, talking to the Lutherans. The Guardian has all the details.

    Christian leaders and congregations will spend the next 12 months consolidating moves towards greater cooperation and dialogue after centuries of division. In the first papal visit to Sweden in more than 25 years, Francis will lead prayers asking "forgiveness for divisions perpetuated by Christians from the two traditions". On Tuesday, he will celebrate mass in Malmö before around 10,000 people. In Germany, leaders of the Catholic and main Protestant churches have issued a joint text calling for a "healing of memories" of past divisions. An ecumenical pilgrimage to the Holy Land aimed at highlighting common roots despite separation has just concluded.

If you are concluding that Papa Francesco is carrying around an empty bag similar to the one that the president is toting these days, you wouldn't be far wrong. Naturally, those in HMC still nursing a grudge over the Peace of Westphalia are having conniption fits.

    The moves are not without controversy, however. "There are rightwing Roman Catholics who find the whole thing profoundly distasteful," said Diarmaid MacCulloch, professor of church history at Oxford and author of The Reformation: A History. "But they're the sort of people who hate the present pope anyway."

It's hard to measure how stunning this is to someone—like me—who grew up in the reactionary American Catholic Church of the 1950s and early 1960s. You were taught not even to set foot in a Protestant church on the pain of mortal sin. Hell, it was even considered weird to enter other Catholic churches outside your own parish, let alone those funky Eastern Orthodox churches where they used pita bread for Communion. I was not allowed to join the best Boy Scout troop in my town because it was sponsored by the local Congregational church.

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Post by: Mark on November 16, 2016, 03:40:37 pm
Pope Francis’ Lenient Stance on Divorce Troubles Conservative Cardinals

 A group of four Cardinals have written to the Pope, calling into question his lenient teaching on divorce.

According to ChristianToday.com, the four cardinals, American Raymond Burke, Italian Carl Caffarra, and Germans Walter Brandmüller and Joachim Meisner, wrote to the Pope after he relaxed the Catholic Church’s stance on giving Holy Communion to divorced couples.

The Pope had said that in “some cases” the Church welcomes divorced couples to receive Holy Communion, adding that “No one can be condemned forever.”

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Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

woops, caught Frank in another lie  ;D

The Cardinals, however, believe this is a departure from scripture and orthodoxy.

Father John Zuhlsdorf believes that many Catholic Church leaders may share the same view as the four cardinals, but are afraid to speak out.

 "I'd be willing to bet that The Four are merely the tip of the spear,” stated Zuhlsdorf. “I'd wager that they represent a large gang of quiet Cardinals who want answers, but because they are presently in curial or diocesan positions they are hesitant to raise their heads too high."

The Cardinals say that their intention is not to create a conflict, but to maintain pure biblical doctrine. Cardinal Burke noted the passage in which Jesus says, "He who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery."

"It is the duty in such cases, and historically it has happened, of cardinals and bishops to make clear that the Pope is teaching error and to ask him to correct it,” he added.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/pope-francis-lenient-stance-on-divorce-angers-conservative-cardinals.html


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 20, 2016, 06:04:31 pm
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pope-creates-17-cardinals-princes-of-the-church/ar-AAkunur?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Pope creates 17 cardinals, 'Princes of the Church'
11/19/16

Pope Francis created 17 new cardinals from across the globe on Saturday, elevating them in a time-honoured ceremony to an elite body that advises and elects popes.

Three of them are from the US, while others come from corners of the world where the Catholic Church needs a boost.

Dressed in red robes, the "princes of the Church" knelt before the pontiff to pledge their allegiance in a solemn ceremony.

Thirteen of them are under 80 and therefore eligible to take part in the next secret conclave to elect or become the head of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics. They are known as cardinal electors.

History's first Latin American pope is famed for wanting to reach out to far-flung dioceses often overlooked by Rome and he has largely shunned European candidates, favouring low-key, pastoral figures or men he knows.

The cardinal electors come from Bangladesh, Belgium, Brazil, Central African Republic, Italy, Mauritius, Mexico, Papua New Guinea, Spain, the United States and Venezuela.

Francis warned them against falling victim to a "growing animosity" between people, including within the Church, in a possible reference to divisions within the hierarchy over the pope's bid for a more open, forgiving Church.

He also urged them to fight growing xenophobia in the world and protect those such as refugees, who are often classed as enemies.

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 21, 2016, 07:40:55 am
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-francis-extends-special-permission-abortion-110712679.html
Pope indefinitely extends special permission on abortion
11/21/16

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis is allowing all priests to absolve women of the "grave sin" of abortion, extending indefinitely special permission he had granted for the duration of the just-ended Holy Year of Mercy.

Francis wrote in the Apostolic Letter made public by the Vatican on Monday that "there is no sin that God's mercy cannot reach and wipe away when it finds a repentant heart seeking to be reconciled" with God.

But he also wrote: "I wish to restate as firmly as I can that abortion is a grave sin, since it puts an end to an innocent life."

Because the Roman Catholic Church holds abortion to be such a serious sin, it had long put the matter of granting forgiveness for it in the hands of a bishop, who could either hear the woman's confession himself or delegate that to a priest who was expert in such situations.

But in 2015, Francis had said he was allowing all rank-and-file priests to grant absolution for an abortion for the duration of the Holy Year, which ran from Dec. 8, 2015 through Nov. 20, 2016.

By now letting all priests absolve the sin of abortion on a permanent basis following the end of the Holy Year, Francis is further applying his vision of a merciful church to those women who, as he has written in the past, felt they had no choice but to make "this agonizing and painful decision."

"May every priest, therefore, be a guide, support and comfort to penitents on this journey of special reconciliation" for faithful who had abortions, Francis wrote.

He explained his rationale thusly: "Lest any obstacle arise between the request for reconciliation and God's forgiveness, I henceforth grant to all priests, in virtue of their ministry, the faculty to absolve those who have committed the sin of procured abortion.

"The provision I had made in this regard, limited to the duration of the Extraordinary Holy Year, is hereby extended, notwithstanding anything to the contrary."

How to form consciences on abortion figured in how bishops in the United States advised their flock during the recently ended U.S. presidential election campaign.

Some pastors urged their congregations to keep the sacredness in life in mind when deciding which candidate would get their vote. The "sacredness of life" phrase is widely seen as referring to abortion. U.S. President-elect Donald Trump voiced his opposition to abortion while campaigning, while his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, supported women's right to have an abortion.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 21, 2016, 05:30:29 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-francis-extends-special-permission-abortion-110712679.html
Pope indefinitely extends special permission on abortion

Mar 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 27, 2016, 11:40:27 pm
Pope's possible deal with China would 'betray Christ', says Hong Kong cardinal
wouldn't be the first time

Senior Catholic Joseph Zen says the pontiff ‘may not know the Communist persecutors who have killed hundreds of thousands’

The most senior Chinese Catholic has slammed a potential rapprochement between the Vatican and Beijing, saying it would be “betraying Jesus Christ”, amid a thaw in more than six decades of bitter relations.

Talk of a deal between the two sides has been building for months, with some saying the diplomatic coup for Pope Francis would be resolving the highly controversial issue of allowing China’s Communist government to have a hand in selecting bishops.

But Cardinal Joseph Zen, the 84-year-old former bishop of Hong Kong, has been an outspoken critic, saying any agreement where Beijing would have a hand in approving clergy would be “a surrender”.


'We did nothing wrong': banned Hong Kong politician on oath-taking protest
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“Maybe the pope is a little naive, he doesn’t have the background to know the Communists in China,” Zen said at the Salesian school in Hong Kong where he still teaches. “The pope used to know the persecuted Communists [in Latin America], but he may not know the Communist persecutors who have killed hundreds of thousands.”

Chinese Catholics are free to go to mass and attend government-sanctioned churches, but barred from proselytising. The state-controlled China Catholic Patriotic Association controls the church and appoints bishops, currently without any input from the Vatican.

An “underground” Catholic church exists, with some estimates saying it is larger than the official one, and its members and clergy have faced persecution by authorities.

Protestant Christians also face similar challenges, and a recent campaign by authorities in eastern China has seen more than 1,200 crosses removed from buildings and churches demolished.

Zen complained that most supporters of the deal did not truly know China, lacking first-hand experience with the state of the church under the Communists. He spent seven years frequently teaching in cities across China in the wake of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, a bloody crackdown on pro-democracy protesters that was followed by severe tightening of freedom of expression and religion.

One motivation for the Vatican is the relatively small number of Catholics in a country filled with people who are increasingly searching for meaning in their lives. There are roughly 10 million Catholics, just a 10th of the overall number of Christians in the country.

The people sooner or later will see the bishops are puppets of the government
Cardinal Joseph Zen
With “fake freedom” under a proposed deal, priests could more easily preach and more churches would open, Zen predicted, but “it’s only the impression of freedom, it’s not real freedom, the people sooner or later will see the bishops are puppets of the government and not really the shepherds of the flock.”

“The official bishops are not really preaching the gospel,” Zen added “They are preaching obedience to Communist authority.”

Francesco Sisci, an Italian scholar and journalist who is based in Beijing, said “a very wide-ranging agreement” appeared to be on the horizon but that it remained unclear exactly when the deal would be unveiled. No observers expected it to lead to full diplomatic relations.

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Sisci, who conducted a rare interview with Pope Francis at the start of this year in which the leader of the Catholic church backed the idea of dialogue with Beijing, said he believed the deal would represent a “a major breakthrough” for China, the Vatican and people of all faiths.

Sisci rejected the idea that the Vatican was abandoning its principles by engaging with Beijing and claimed many within the church leadership believed it would be more effective to talk to China’s Communist leaders than to “wage war” against them on issues such as human rights and religious freedom.

“The church doesn’t want crusades … and doesn’t want to start a new one with China,” he said.

The Italian academic said he believed the pope thought the church could play “a crucial role in helping China move into the modern world, to become a modern society”.

“He may be naive but it is his job being naive, being a man of faith,” Sisci added.

But that naivety could harm the Catholic church in China for decades to come, according to Zen, and a perception is building that the pope is pushing a pact he may not fully understand.

“You cannot go into negotiations with the mentality ‘we want to sign an agreement at any cost’, then you are surrendering yourself, you are betraying yourself, you are betraying Jesus Christ,” Zen lamented.

“If you cannot get a good deal, an acceptable deal, then the Vatican should walk away and maybe try again later,” he added. “Could the church negotiate with Hitler? Could it negotiate with Stalin? No.”

Ordinary Catholics who attend the government-controlled church welcome the negotiations as any deal would legitimise what is essentially a schismatic church.

Chinese society needs faith right now
Zhao, Catholic church attendee
“If they could really strike a deal, not only would us Catholics be happy, but all of the Chinese people should rejoice,” said Zhao, 36, who has been a Catholic for 20 years and works at the oldest Catholic church in China, close to Tiananmen Square in Beijing. He declined to give his full name because of the sensitivity of discussing religion.

“Chinese society needs faith right now,” he added, saying a warming of ties would increase the number of Catholics, “which is a benefit to all society”.

But Zen warned that gains, diplomatically and in the number of faithful, could be short-lived.

In the long run people would leave the church as they became disillusioned with the “fake” institution, Zen said, adding “the clergy need to side with the people, the poor and the persecuted, not to government”.

“The blood of the martyrs is the seed of new Christians,” Zen said. “If that blood is poisoned, how long will those new Christians last?”

uhm, the catholics have spilled most of that blood

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/28/pope-china-vatican-deal-would-betray-christ-says-former-hong-kong-bishop


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 07, 2016, 03:45:00 pm
Pope Francis criticises media for ‘sin’ of disinformation

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Sometimes this is just to easy

Pope Francis, in an interview published Wednesday with the Belgian Catholic weekly publication “Tertio,” criticized media outlets that commit the “sin” of spreading disinformation.

rest: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/07/pope-francis-criticizes-media-for-sin-of-disinformation/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 31, 2016, 06:20:14 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-end-message-urges-action-youth-unemployment-181004360.html
Pope, in year-end message, urges action on youth unemployment
December 31, 2016

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis in his year-end message urged leaders on Saturday to do more to tackle youth unemployment, saying a generation was being lost to desperation, migration and joblessness.

At his last public event of 2016, an evening vespers service in St. Peter's Basilica, the 80-year-old Francis said doors had to be opened for young people "so that they can be capable of dreaming and fighting for their dreams".

"We have condemned our young people to have no place in society, because we have slowly pushed them to the margins of public life, forcing them to migrate or to beg for jobs that no longer exist or fail to promise them a future," he said in his homily.

Youth joblessness in Italy stands at more than 36 percent and tops 18 percent among the 28 European Union states.

In Africa, the continent with the world's youngest population, youth unemployment probably increased in 2016, and was near 30 percent in North Africa, according to the International Labour Organization.

Poverty and lack of opportunity in Africa is driving migration, particularly to Europe. Almost 5,000 men, women and children died attempting to reach Europe by boat from North Africa in 2016.

Among the more than 181,000 boat migrants - mostly African - who reached Italy in 2016, 25,000 were unaccompanied minors, double the number who came in 2015.

At the end of the service, Francis walked across St. Peter's Square, stopping to shake hands and pose for pictures, as he paid a brief visit to the life-size nativity set up outside.

On Jan. 1, the leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics will say a Mass to mark the Church's World Day of Peace.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 05, 2017, 01:07:00 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-pope-prepares-video-message-for-super-bowl-2017-2
The Pope has recorded a Super Bowl message for America
2/5/17

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Look out, Lady Gaga. The pope is joining the Super Bowl frenzy.

Pope Francis has recorded a video message that will be shown during Sunday's Super Bowl game between the New England Patriots and the Atlanta Falcons.

In the video, which the director of the Vatican Press Office posted on Twitter on Sunday morning, the Pope says that sporting events like the Super Bowl are "highly symbolic" and demonstrate that it is possible to build a world of peace.

"May this year's Super Bowl be a sign of peace, friendship, and solidarity to the world," Pope Francis says in the message.

    #PopeFrancis sends a message to the #SuperBowl pic.twitter.com/X6hRBf6upZ   
    — Greg Burke (@GregBurkeRome) February 5, 2017

A Vatican spokesman says the message is expected to be played on the screen at NRG Stadium in Houston either before the game or during the first quarter.

Francis is an avid sports fan who often speaks of how sports can bring about social change. He has previously taken to Twitter for the Olympics and soccer's World Cup. This is his first Super Bowl message.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 17, 2017, 05:50:33 pm
Pope Francis: ‘Muslim Terrorism Does Not Exist’

In an impassioned address Friday, Pope Francis denied the existence of Islamic terrorism, while simultaneously asserting that “the ecological crisis is real.”
“Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist. They do not exist,” Francis said in his speech to a world meeting of populist movements.

What he apparently meant is that not all Christians are terrorists and not all Muslims are terrorists—a fact evident to all—yet his words also seemed to suggest that no specifically Islamic form of terrorism exists in the world, an assertion that stands in stark contradiction to established fact.

“No people is criminal or drug-trafficking or violent,” Francis said, while also suggesting—as he has on other occasions—that terrorism is primarily a result of economic inequalities rather than religious beliefs. “The poor and the poorer peoples are accused of violence yet, without equal opportunities, the different forms of aggression and conflict will find a fertile terrain for growth and will eventually explode.”

The Pope also reiterated his conviction that all religions promote peace and that the danger of violent radicalization exists equally in all religions.

“There are fundamentalist and violent individuals in all peoples and religions—and with intolerant generalizations they become stronger because they feed on hate and xenophobia,” he said.

While denying the existence of Islamic terrorism, Francis also seemed to condemn the denial of global warming, asserting that “the ecological crisis is real.”

“A very solid scientific consensus indicates that we are presently witnessing a disturbing warming of the climatic system,” he said.

We know “what happens when we deny science and disregard the voice of Nature,” the Pope said. “Let us not fall into denial. Time is running out. Let us act. I ask you again—all of you, people of all backgrounds including native people, pastors, political leaders—to defend Creation.”

While acknowledging that science is not “the only form of knowledge,” and that “science is not necessarily ‘neutral’” and often “conceals ideological views or economic interests,” he still insisted that people of good will should not oppose “scientific consensus” regarding global warming.

Leftist media like the liberal Guardian in the U.K. immediately politicized the speech, predictably claiming that the Pope was backing “anti-Trump protests,” despite the fact that the Pope himself denied such a claim, explicitly declaring that “I am not speaking of anyone in particular.”

“I am not speaking of anyone in particular, I am speaking of a social and political process that flourishes in many parts of the world and poses a grave danger for humanity,” he said.

Moreover, although the Guardian claimed that the Pope was “condemning populism,” in point of fact, he was speaking to populist movements and praised their commitment to democracy.

“The direction taken beyond this historic turning-point,” Francis said, “will depend on people’s involvement and participation and, largely, on yourselves, the popular movements.”

Nevertheless, the Vatican’s Secretary of State, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, said Monday that the Holy See is concerned over growing populist and nationalist movements, both in Europe and in the United States.

In an interview for the Italian evening news on the state-owned RAI network, the Cardinal was asked whether the Vatican is worried about what the interviewer called “the spread of nationalism and populism not only in Europe but also in the United States with Donald Trump.”

“I think so, I think so,” Parolin said. “Certainly these closings are not a good sign,” since many of them “are born of fear, which is not a good counselor.”

In his address Friday, the Pope denounced “the guise of what is politically correct or ideologically fashionable,” which he described as a “hypocritical attitude,” while urging real solutions to unemployment, corruption, the identity crisis, and “the gutting of democracies.”

“The system’s gangrene cannot be whitewashed forever because sooner or later the stench becomes too strong,” he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/17/pope-francis-muslim-terrorism-not-exist/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on February 23, 2017, 02:23:40 pm
http://www.wcvb.com/article/pope-shows-favor-for-atheists-compared-to-hypocritical-christians/8970836

Pope shows favor for atheists compared to hypocritical Christians

The remarks stressed how religious followers should not lead a double life

Updated: 12:39 PM EST Feb 23, 2017

VATICAN CITY —

Pope Francis contrasted atheists against hypocritical Christians during a homily this week, questioning religious followers who lead a double life.

The pope spoke about seemingly good believers who behave unjustly, mentioning employers who exploit workers, according to Vatican Radio, which posted parts of the remarks.

"(It) is a double life, a double life," he said. "A totally double life: ‘I am very Catholic, I always go to Mass, I belong to this association and that one; but my life is not Christian, I don’t pay my workers a just wage, I exploit people, I am dirty in my business, I launder money…’

"How many times have we heard – all of us, around the neighbourhood and elsewhere – ‘but to be a Catholic like that, it’s better to be an atheist.’"


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Post by: Mark on February 27, 2017, 06:06:41 pm
Flashback: Pope’s retreat preacher speaks on Antichrist as a ‘pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist’

February 20, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — In the light of current events in the world and in the Catholic Church, it seems important to resurrect an especially thought-provoking 2007 article by LifeSite's John-Henry Westen re-published below. That article was widely quoted at the time and for good reason as you will see.

In 2007, the climate change hysteria and general collapse of moral consensus was not as present in governments, educational institutions, and society, and now at the highest level in the Catholic Church, as it has been the past few years.

The most extraordinary new development has been the head of the Roman Catholic Church

 proclaiming "proselytism is the strongest poison against the ecumenical path" and “Proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense.”

 gradually abandoning Church teaching of a "just war",

recently proclaiming that “Liberation Theology was a good thing for Latin America,”

 upsetting the traditional applications of Catholic moral teachings

calling on all "to defend our Sister Mother Earth" while accepting the false claims about climate change alarmism as coming from "a very solid scientific consensus,"

 trashing capitalism, and urging for a Marxist-sounding new international economic order

 strongly urging the opening of borders to millions of undocumented, poorly vetted Islamist immigrants with their radically different culture and religion-based laws.

proclaiming that “The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old"

Pope Francis has also been inviting increasingly virulent, prominent New World Order enemies of Christianity, such as Paul Ehrlich, Professor John Bongaarts,the vice-president of the Population Council, and China's “organ czar,” to speak at Vatican conferences and advise the Church on policies.

A worldly, modern "social justice" list of priorities dominates Vatican actions and statements today - a dramatic change from the more emphatically spiritual and moral emphases of recent papacies.

Now, Francis has even just praised and worked together on a February conference in California with the George Soros-funded organization, PICO — People Improving Communities through Organizing.

OnePeterFive reports, "Leftist watchdog website Discover the Political Networks describes PICO as a group that 'uses Alinsky-style organizing tactics to advance the doctrines of the religious left.'' In an Aug. 23, 2016 article, LifeSite's Westen reported that Soros paid out $650,000 to PICO and another organization to "influence Pope Francis’ September 2015 visit to the USA with a view to 'shift[ing] national paradigms and priorities in the run-up to the 2016 presidential campaign.'"

And so, Westen's 2007 article, given the astounding developments that have taken place since its original publication, is now read in a dramatically different light than when it was first published. Back then - not so long ago - few of us would have believed that much of what has happened since 2007 could actually happen. We just could not have imagined that things could go so far awry in so  little time.

Readers should always keep in mind that prayer and personal sacrifices offered to God have great power to change the course of history, even when that course appears to be unstoppable. The phrase "Be not afraid," or versions of it, appear 365 times in the New Testament. Living that is one necessary mark of a true Christian, although temporary lapses are just being human.

Before the article, I include two relevant quotes - one quote from John Paul II and the other from Pope Benedict:

In 1976  Pope John Paul II, as then Cardinal Karol Wojtyla, warned,

“We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has ever experienced. I do not think that the wide circle of the American Society, or the whole wide circle of the Christian Community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-church, between the gospel and the anti-gospel, between Christ and the Antichrist.”
Also, in 2010 Pope Benedict stated the following in his Christmas message to the Vatican Curia:

  • ur world is at the same time troubled by the sense that moral consensus is collapsing, consensus without which juridical and political structures cannot function. Consequently the forces mobilized for the defence of such structures seem doomed to failure….

“Alexis de Tocqueville, in his day, observed that democracy in America had become possible and had worked because there existed a fundamental moral consensus which, transcending individual denominations, united everyone. Only if there is such a consensus on the essentials can constitutions and law function. This fundamental consensus derived from the Christian heritage is at risk wherever its place, the place of moral reasoning, is taken by the purely instrumental rationality of which I spoke earlier. In reality, this makes reason blind to what is essential. To resist this eclipse of reason and to preserve its capacity for seeing the essential, for seeing God and man, for seeing what is good and what is true, is the common interest that must unite all people of good will. The very future of the world is at stake.”
Pope’s retreat preacher speaks on Antichrist as a 'pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist'
By John-Henry Westen

VATICAN CITY, March 1, 2007 (LifeSiteNews) - Papal watchers are wondering what message Pope Benedict XVI was giving when he selected retired Bologna archbishop Cardinal Giacomo Biffi to preach the annual Lenten retreat to the Pope and the top members of the Vatican.

Rocco Palmo, expert Vatican reporter for The Tablet, the international Catholic weekly published in London England has noted the significance of the selection of the Lenten retreat preacher.  "Since time immemorial—or, at least, the retreat’s heightened profile over the 20th century—the selection of the preacher has become a closely-watched indicator of the prevailing winds in the papal apartment," said Palmo on his blog.  "(T)he choice often falling to a voice the Pope might like to tout… and not just for a higher prominence on the preaching circuit."

Palmo added weight to his remarks noting that "Before their respective elections to the papacy, both Joseph Ratzinger and Karol Wojtyla were tapped to lead the annual exercises."

This year’s selection when it became known created a stir since Cardinal Biffi, while he is known for orthodox faith and frank words, is most well known, at least in the secular media, for his preaching on the Antichrist.  In fact, the Times of London reported in 2004 that the Cardinal described the Antichrist as "walking among us".

The Lenten retreat did not disappoint.  Cardinal Biffi picked up on his oft repeated theme of the Antichrist, basing his remarks on the works of Vladimir Soloviev, a Russian religious philosopher who has received praise from Pope Benedict prior to his elevation to the pontificate.

Quoting Soloviev, the Cardinal said "the Antichrist presents himself as pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist."

"He will convoke an ecumenical council and will seek the consensus of all the Christian confessions, granting something to each one. The masses will follow him, with the exception of small groups of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants," he said according to a Zenit translation of a Vatican Radio summary here: http://www.radiovaticana.org/it1/Articolo.asp?c=120479 . (Feb. 20, 2017 - Translation is no longer available on Zenit and the only Zenit report on the 2007 retreat mentions only the first day's talk and not the later one on the Antichrist)

In his "Tale of the Antichrist" Solovyov foresees that a small group of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants will resist and will say to the Antichrist: "You give us everything, except what interests us, Jesus Christ".   For Cardinal Biffi, this narrative is a warning: "Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection."

The 78-year-old cardinal added that if Christians "limited themselves to speaking of shared values they would be more accepted on television programs and in social groups. But in this way, they will have renounced Jesus, the overwhelming reality of the resurrection."

The cardinal said he believes that this is "the danger that Christians face in our days … the Son of God cannot be reduced to a series of good projects sanctioned by the prevailing worldly mentality."

The preacher of the Spiritual Exercises added that "there are relative values, such as solidarity, love of peace and respect for nature. If these become absolute, uprooting or even opposing the proclamation of the event of salvation, then these values become an instigation to idolatry and obstacles on the way of salvation."

Cardinal Biffi affirmed that "if Christianity—on opening itself to the world and dialoguing with all—dilutes the salvific event, it closes itself to a personal relationship with Jesus and places itself on the side of the Antichrist."

Cardinal Biffi’s reflections, in fact, are very similar to remarks Pope Benedict made last Fall in a meeting with Swiss Bishops.  While Pope Benedict did not speak of the Antichrist, he spoke of a new false or "substitute" religion, calling it also a "successor" of religion.

"Modern society is not simply without morality, but it has, so to speak, ‘discovered’ and professes a part of morality", the Pope told the Swiss bishops. "These are the great themes of peace, non-violence, justice for all, concern for the poor, and respect for creation."

However, the Pope warned that these "great moral themes" have "become an ethical complex that, precisely as a political force, has great power and constitutes for many the substitute for religion, or its successor."

"It is only if human life is respected from conception to death that the ethics of peace is also possible and credible," concluded the Pope. "It is only then that non-violence can express itself in every direction; only then that we truly welcome creation, and only then that we can arrive at true justice."

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/say-again-popes-retreat-preacher-speaks-on-antichrist-as-a-pacifist-ecologi


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 27, 2017, 06:08:25 pm
Francis urges priests to ‘welcome’ cohabitating couples in the ‘style of the Gospel’

Pope Francis urged parish priests participating in a Vatican-run course titled the “New Marriage Procedure” to “welcome” cohabitating couples living in fornication who “prefer to live together without getting married.” The pope did not ask priests to admonish such couples for living in grave sin nor did he ask them to work for their conversion and repentance.

“At the same time, make yourselves close with the style of the Gospel itself, in the encounter and welcome of those young people that prefer living together without getting married,” he told priests at the Saturday, February 25 event organized by the Roma Rota, the Vatican’s highest ecclesiastical court.

“On the spiritual and moral plane, they are among the poor and the little ones, toward whom the Church, following in the footsteps of her Teacher and Lord, wants to be a Mother that does not abandon but comes close and takes care. These persons are also loved by Christ’s heart. This care of the last, precisely because it emanates from the Gospel, is an essential part of your work of promotion and defense of the Sacrament of Marriage,” he added.

rest: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/francis-urges-priests-to-welcome-cohabitating-couples-in-the-style-of-the-g


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 27, 2017, 06:08:57 pm
http://www.wcvb.com/article/pope-shows-favor-for-atheists-compared-to-hypocritical-christians/8970836

Pope shows favor for atheists compared to hypocritical Christians Nancy Pelosi

The remarks stressed how religious followers should not lead a double life

Updated: 12:39 PM EST Feb 23, 2017

VATICAN CITY —

Pope Francis contrasted atheists against hypocritical Christians during a homily this week, questioning religious followers who lead a double life.

The pope spoke about seemingly good believers who behave unjustly, mentioning employers who exploit workers, according to Vatican Radio, which posted parts of the remarks.

"(It) is a double life, a double life," he said. "A totally double life: ‘I am very Catholic, I always go to Mass, I belong to this association and that one; but my life is not Christian, I don’t pay my workers a just wage, I exploit people, I am dirty in my business, I launder money…’

"How many times have we heard – all of us, around the neighbourhood and elsewhere – ‘but to be a Catholic like that, it’s better to be an atheist.’"


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 27, 2017, 07:37:17 pm
Vatican Hires Legal Heavyweights To Protect Merchandising Rights Of Pope Francis And Holy See
by Geoffrey Grider

God’s love may be free, but the Vatican says it has a copyright on the pope.

“And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:” Revelation 18:11 (KJV)

Unnerved by the proliferation of papal-themed T-shirts, snow globes and tea towels around the world, the Vatican has warned it intends to “protect” the image of Pope Francis and “stop situations of illegality that may be discovered.” It also wants to protect the crossed keys emblem of the Holy See.

“The secretary of state will undertake systematic surveillance aimed at monitoring the way in which the image of the Holy Father and the emblems of the Holy See are used, intervening with opportune measures when necessary,” the Vatican said in a statement.

To back up this declaration, the Vatican has hired the global law firm Baker McKenzie to protect its intellectual property rights, the Italian daily Corriere della Sera reported. without citing the source of the information. Baker McKenzie declined to comment.

The threat of enforcement marks a sea change for a church that for some 2,000 years has seen popes venerated on all manner of flags, banners and medals. But the popularity of Francis and the ease with which his image can be copied in the internet age has spawned a flood of papal trinkets, causing the Holy See to worry that they are losing control of his image.

“The pope’s image rights are no different from those of any other famous celebrity and so it’s not surprising that the Vatican is giving notice that it will protect its (intellectual property) rights as necessary,” said Nick Kounoupias, the founder of an intellectual property consultancy in London. “What will be interesting to see, however, is how vigorously these rights are pursued, given who the IP owner is.”

Francis’ many travels have taken him to countries like the Philippines and Sri Lanka, where factories can quickly churn out pope hats, T-shirts and towels. Vatican officials have grown fearful the faithful will think that the church is making money off the merchandise, experts say. Worse still, they see the conditions in which some of the items are made and worry about being associated with labor abuses.

The decision reflects an evolution in the last decade as the Vatican adapted to modern markets. While in the past the Holy See might get word of improper use of the pope’s image through local church organizations around the globe, the approach was random.

“It’s not new that people were selling T-shirts of the pope, but (previously) those were probably little local vendors,” said Mark McKenna, an intellectual property expert at the Notre Dame Law School in Indiana.

What’s changed is the magnitude of what can be produced and how quickly it can be distributed through online platforms.

“In a world of Etsy, you are able to do it on a bigger scale,” he said.

Although the Vatican did not elaborate on how it would crack down, the warning seemed a pre-emptive move to explain why the Vatican is going after the unauthorized commercial uses of the pope’s image. There was no immediate indication that souvenir buyers would risk fines or legal action.

It’s not as if the church refrains from selling its own pope-themed material.

On the Vatican website, one can buy Francis medals, icons and rosary boxes. The Vatican museum boutiques offer silk ties and scarves and watches showing scenes from Michelangelo’s frescoes on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. And that may be part of the Vatican’s motivation in safeguarding Francis’ face – and warning that they will challenge the copycats.

“It’s probably also the case that there is some genuine commercial motivation,” McKenna said. “They want to be sure they’re the only ones selling this stuff.” source

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/vatican-hires-legal-heavyweights-protect-merchandising-rights-pope-francis-holy-see/


Title: Cardinals Want Pope Francis to Resign
Post by: Mark on March 03, 2017, 01:51:22 am
Some Cardinals Want Pope Francis to Resign, Fear Schism Worse Than The Reformation

According to a report in The London Times and best selling Catholic author and journalist Antonio Socci, about 12 cardinals who have supported Pope Francis since his election in March 2013 now fear that his controversial reforms may cause a schism in the Church, and so they hope to pressure the Pope to resign.

"A large part of the cardinals who voted for him is very worried and the curia ... that organized his election and has accompanied him thus far, without ever disassociating itself from him, is cultivationg the idea of a moral suasion to convince him to retire," reported Socci in the Italian newspaper Libero, as quoted in The London Times of March 2.

The cardinals who want Pope Francis to resign are among the liberal prelates who backed Jorge Bergoglio (Pope Francis) four years ago, said Socci, and they would like to replace him with Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican secretary of state.

“Four years after Benedict XVI’s renunciation and Bergoglio’s arrival on the scene, the situation of the Catholic church has become explosive, perhaps really on the edge of a schism, which could be even more disastrous than Luther’s [who is today being rehabilitated by the Bergoglio church],” said Socci.

He added, “The cardinals are worried that the church could be shattered as an institution," because of the major division now between the liberals and the traditionalists in the Church. "There are many indirect ways in which the pressure [to resign] might be exerted," said Socci.

The London Times quoted a Vatican expert as saying, “A good number of the majority that voted for Bergoglio in 2013 have come to regret their decision, but I don’t think it’s plausible that members of the hierarchy will pressure the Pope to resign."

"Those who know him know it would be useless," said the expert.  "[Pope Francis] has a very authoritarian streak. He won’t resign until he has completed his revolutionary reforms, which are causing enormous harm.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/report-some-cardinals-want-pope-franics-resign-fear-schism-worse-reformation


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 03, 2017, 04:44:14 pm
The pope will meet all EU leaders ahead of Rome summit

Pope Francis will meet with the leaders of all EU nations at the Vatican on March 24th ahead of the bloc's special summit in Rome, Vatican sources said on Thursday.
The March 25th summit will mark the 60th anniversary of the bloc's founding treaty. The pontiff will meet the leaders in the afternoon, the sources said.

The pope has already received EU leaders at the Vatican in May 2016 when he was presented with the bloc's Charlemagne Prize for his contribution to European unification.

In a speech at that ceremony he called on them to "tear down the walls" and build a fairer society.

Invoking the memory of the EU founding fathers' pursuit of integration in the aftermath of World War II, the pontiff said they inspired because they had "dared to change radically the models" that had led to war.

The pope also made a speech to the European Parliament in Strasbourg in November 2014.

http://www.thelocal.it/20170303/the-pope-will-meet-all-eu-leaders-ahead-of-rome-summit


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 03, 2017, 08:46:33 pm
This is the first commandment ever given to man from the Lord

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

‘Pope Francis has urged us to have fewer children,’ claims Vatican academy member

“Pope Francis has urged us to have fewer children to make the world more sustainable,” a panelist at a Vatican-run workshop on “how to save the natural world” claimed on Thursday.

This solution to securing the world’s sustainability was presented by botanist and environmentalist Peter Raven during a press conference that concluded the “Biological Extinction” workshop that took place at the Vatican earlier this week.

Greg Burke, director of the Holy See Press Office, moderated a panel, which included Raven, President of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (PAS), Werner Arber, University of Cambridge Professor Emeritus of Economics Partha Dasgupta, and PAS chancellor Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo.

“We do not endorse any of the artificial birth control [methods] that the Church does not endorse,” said Raven.

The Church condemns every method of artificial birth control.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that “every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible is intrinsically evil” since it destroys the unitive and procreative integrity of the marital act.

The Church teaches that a married couple who wishes to postpone pregnancy for a “grave” reason may do so by not engaging in the marital act during the fertile period.

According to Raven, the central element of the solution for “overpopulation” is that “we need a more limited number of people in the world.” In addition, “the problem is one of inequality,” where the rich use more of the world’s resources than the poor. 

“In the framework of social justice worldwide we need to find ways for natural resources to be distributed on the basis of compassion and love. We hope for support in our ongoing support for our endeavor to develop sustainability,” he said.

All four on the panel concurred that the survival of the planet is tightly linked to the number of people on the planet.

The Biological Extinction workshop drew particular controversy because it featured a paper by notorious pro-abortion population control advocate Dr. Paul Ehrlich. At the event Ehrlich, and co-author Dasgupta, said that the Catholic teaching of “responsible parenthood” in determining family size has “result[ed] in collective failure” in reducing the world’s population.

The authors suggested that one way to stop the exhaustion of “humanity’s natural capital” is by imposing a system of “taxes and regulations” that would help modify “social norms of behaviour.”

Just days before the conference, Ehrlich, who has defended forced abortion and mass forced sterilization as legitimate means to control the world’s population, advocated in an interview with The Guardian for cutting the world's population by 6 billion people to bring it down to 1 billion.

In the paper's words, he said doing so would have an “overall pro-life effect.” The paper indicated he believed this could “sustain many more human lives in the long term compared with our current uncontrolled growth and prospect of sudden collapse."

When LifeSiteNews asked the panelists at the Vatican press conference if any scientists were invited to the conference who held an alternative view on the world’s population, Bishop Sorondo replied: “You can see the papers, since everything was published on the website, the texts and the discussions.”

Sorondo said that while “there were different opinions on population” during the conference’s discussions, the participants reached two conclusions: “That the carbonization (pollution) of the air is not caused by the number of human beings, but by the activity of humans who use the materials at hand” and that “in order to have an integral environment, biodiversity must be conserved – [and] that also depends on human activity.”

Dasgupta, Ehrlich's co-author, said during the panel that the number of humans on the planet is not sustainable. He added that humans must arrive at a point where their numbers are determined by how “the earth can replenish herself.”

Upon LifeSiteNews’ question about what this point would look like and how many people would be ideal for the planet, Dasgupta answered: “We should not calculate that. The number of humans depends on standards of living, or quality of life. It depends on the total demand that we make on Mother Nature. If humans were not here there would be other factors.”

While leaving the question essentially unanswered, Dasgupta presented the solution of “working backwards,” stating that “we have to figure out the human impact on Mother Nature on an annual basis: If the impact grows, we will be concerned. If the impact is reduced, then mother nature will replenish.”

He suggested that the “best step forward” to begin curbing “population growth” would be with a “focus on the family and education.” He did not clarify what such “education” might entail. 

The Catholic Church condemns coercive population control methods. Instead of seeing people as ‘mouths to feed,’ ‘pollution producers,’ or ‘carbon footprint makers,’ the Church sees each and every person as a unique and unrepeatable gift from God. Created in the image and likeness of God, and redeemed by Jesus Christ, the Church teaches that each person is filled with the greatest dignity as a son or daughter of God who is ultimately called to eternal beatitude in the Kingdom of God.

Earlier this week a global coalition of Catholic pro-life and pro-family organizations urged Catholics to "resist" the Vatican's increasing alliance with the leftist agenda, specifically as championed by the United Nations, warning that such an alliance poses an “immediate and serious threat” to children and the family.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/francis-praised-by-population-controller-at-vatican-workshop-for-urging-us


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 05, 2017, 06:06:06 pm
Wonder how this will play out as for centuries catholics weren't allowed to own a Bible let alone read it by themselves.

Pope says carry and read bible as if it were a mobile phone

Pope Francis on Sunday called on people to carry and read the bible with as much dedication as they do their mobile phones.

Speaking to pilgrims in a rain-soaked St. Peter's Square, the 80-year-old pope asked: "What would happen if we treated the bible like we do our mobile phones?"

He continued: "If we turned around to retrieve it when we forgot it? If we carried it with us always, even a small pocket version? If we read God's messages in the bible like we read messages on the mobile phone?"

Francis called the comparison "paradoxical" and said it was meant to be a source of reflection, adding that bible reading would help people resist daily temptations.

The pope poses regularly for "selfies" with pilgrims who flock to his weekly audiences wielding smartphones, while his English- and Spanish-language Twitter handles have more than 23 million followers.

Francis last year called the internet, social media and text messages "a gift of God" if used wisely.

"It is not technology which determines whether or not communication is authentic, but rather the human heart and our capacity to use wisely the means at our disposal," he said.

But in 2015 Francis told a young girl he was embarrassed to admit that he did not know how to use computers and was an overall "disaster" with technology. He has also said smartphones should be banned from the family dinner table and children should not have computers in their rooms.

The pope spoke during his last public appearance this week. He and top members of the Roman Curia, or its central bureaucracy, will begin their annual Lenten retreat later on Sunday that will run through Friday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-bible-idUSKBN16C0J6?il=0


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 05, 2017, 07:28:45 pm
Remember nowdays there's many different flavors of "bibles" - Francis will likely recommend one of those New Age bibles, probably the most updated one.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: FervorForFaith on March 06, 2017, 09:04:23 pm
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Pope says carry and read bible as if it were a mobile phone

Pope Francis on Sunday called on people to carry and read the bible with as much dedication as they do their mobile phones.

Speaking to pilgrims in a rain-soaked St. Peter's Square, the 80-year-old pope asked: "What would happen if we treated the bible like we do our mobile phones?"

He continued: "If we turned around to retrieve it when we forgot it? If we carried it with us always, even a small pocket version? If we read God's messages in the bible like we read messages on the mobile phone?"

Francis called the comparison "paradoxical" and said it was meant to be a source of reflection, adding that bible reading would help people resist daily temptations.

The pope poses regularly for "selfies" with pilgrims who flock to his weekly audiences wielding smartphones, while his English- and Spanish-language Twitter handles have more than 23 million followers.

Francis last year called the internet, social media and text messages "a gift of God" if used wisely.

"It is not technology which determines whether or not communication is authentic, but rather the human heart and our capacity to use wisely the means at our disposal," he said.

But in 2015 Francis told a young girl he was embarrassed to admit that he did not know how to use computers and was an overall "disaster" with technology. He has also said smartphones should be banned from the family dinner table and children should not have computers in their rooms.

The pope spoke during his last public appearance this week. He and top members of the Roman Curia, or its central bureaucracy, will begin their annual Lenten retreat later on Sunday that will run through Friday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-bible-idUSKBN16C0J6?il=0

I actually think it's a good message. It doesn't make Francis saved or right about everything or anything else, but I think that's a good message considering the world we live in today.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Christian40 on March 07, 2017, 01:33:47 am
when he says carry and read the Bible he means the catholic approved ones there is no power in them they shouldnt be read

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 12, 2017, 07:58:40 pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/pope-francis-paedophile-priests-backsliding-francis-sullivan-australia-a7625231.html
Pope Francis may be ‘backsliding’ on paedophile priest crackdown, senior Catholic official warns

Francis Sullivan leads the Australian church’s response to a four-year investigation into child abuse

3/12/17

A senior Australian Catholic official has warned that Pope Francis may be “backsliding” in his crackdown on paedophile priests in the face of an intransigent Vatican establishment.

Francis Sullivan, who is in charge of the Catholic Church’s Truth, Justice and Healing Council, said he feared the Vatican's “bureaucrats and courtiers [were] doing all they can to either undermine the Pope or driving an agenda” of protecting the institution, according to Australian Associated Press (AAP).

In 2014 the Pope ordered a “zero-tolerance” stance on members of the clergy who abused children. Before that the church had been criticised by the UN for the frequency with which allegedly abusive priests were moved to different areas rather than turned over to police.

Mr Sullivan also pointed to the resignation from the Vatican’s child protection commission of campaigner and abuse survivor Marie Collins, who had accused the institution of a “shameful lack of cooperation”, as evidence of a culture of self-preservation, the AAP reported.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 15, 2017, 09:29:51 pm
Frank is just making stuff up now

Pope Francis: Laying Off Workers Without Due Cause Is ‘Very Grave Sin’

Pope Francis waded into recent Italian labor disputes Wednesday, declaring that it is a “very grave sin” to eliminate jobs by shutting down factories or closing companies for purely economic reasons. I believe that is found in the book of Lib Tard

The Pope was referring specifically to a press release Tuesday announcing that the “Sky Italia” TV platform would be downsizing and moving some 300 employees and their families from Rome to Milan, after selling all their digital properties to Quantum Native Solutions.

At the end of his General Audience Wednesday morning, Francis offered a special greeting “to the employees of Sky Italy,” referencing their right to work and offering a thinly veiled rebuke to company leaders.

“Work gives us dignity,” the Pope continued, “and leaders of the people and those in government are obliged to do everything possible so that every man and every woman can work and so hold their heads high and look others in the eye with dignity.”

Then came what appeared to be a sharp reproach to Sky Italia, in seemingly direct reference to recent decisions of management.

“Those who engage in economic maneuvering to make murky deals, closing factories and businesses and laying off workers in the process, commit a very grave sin,” he said.

In his 2013 book-length letter Evangelii Gaudium (“the Joy of the Gospel”), Francis had already expressed his opposition to company downsizing for purely economic reasons.

The economy, he wrote, “can no longer turn to remedies that are a new poison, such as attempting to increase profits by reducing the work force and thereby adding to the ranks of the excluded.”

Sky is Europe’s leading entertainment company, with some 22 million customers across five countries, including Italy.

In his message, Pope Francis expressed his hope that the work situation of Sky employees can “find a quick solution, while respecting the rights of everyone, especially families.”


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 09, 2017, 12:26:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw12GNzN6XQ


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 13, 2017, 04:56:19 pm
500,000 People Watch Pope Francis Create Two Child Saints Who Spoke With Demons In Fatima Vision
Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims were on hand, many of whom had spent days at Fatima in quiet prayer, reciting rosaries before a statue of the Madonna. They clapped in admiration after the pope recited the rite declaring the Martos saints.

5/13/17
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/500000-people-watch-pope-francis-create-two-child-saints-spoke-demons-fatima-vision/

Half a million people attended an open-air mass in Fatima, Portugal as Pope Francis made two shepherd children who died nearly a century ago saints

“The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.” Jeremiah 7:18 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Clutching Babylonian rosary beads and praying to statues, the Roman Catholic faithful showed up in massive numbers to worship at the feet of Pope Francis as he declared two children who were visited by demons at Fatima in 1917 to be “saints”. During the mass, he held high an Egyptian sun disk as he prayed to his god. Everything about the Roman Catholic Church has nothing to do with the Bible, but with Babylonian pagan worship. If you are a Catholic, like I was for 30 years, you need to run from that Godless, pagan system that teaches you to revere and pray to pagan idols. Mary does not hear your prayer, she didn’t remain a virgin, and she doesn’t appear to anyone ever at any time. Run.

Pope Francis proclaimed Francisco and Jacinta Marto saints at the start of Mass on Saturday marking the centenary of their visions. One hundred years ago, the two children, and their cousin Lucia, said the Virgin Mary appeared to them and gave them three secrets, including the end of the Cold War and World War Two.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 24, 2017, 02:53:29 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/vatican-today-pope-francis-gave-president-trump-gospel-climate-change/
At The Vatican Today Pope Francis Gave President Trump The Gospel…Of Climate Change
Pope Francis’s choice of gift suggests he is adding his voice to those pressing Trump not to renege on the Paris accord, which is the cornerstone of global efforts to limit climate change. The Vatican said in a statement that the talks focused on international affairs and the promotion of peace, with particular emphasis on health care, education and immigration.

5/24/17

Pope Francis gave President Trump a copy of his 2015 encyclical calling for urgent, drastic cuts in fossil-fuel emissions after a half-hour meeting in his private study

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:5,6 (KJV)

If Pope Francis was a Bible believing Christian, he would have spoke to President Trump about his soul and his eternal destiny. If Pope Francis was a Bible believing Christian, he would have given him the gospel of the grace of God as first preached by the apostle Paul. But Pope Francis is neither a Bible believer nor a Christian, so what is he? He is a king over the country of Vatican City, and when the president arrived he did what any other worldly king would do. He talked politics, and the gospel of Climate Change in particular.
Pope Francis joined an international chorus urging Donald Trump to meet U.S. commitments on climate change in talks at the Vatican Wednesday

Pope Francis gave President Trump a copy of his 2015 encyclical calling for urgent, drastic cuts in fossil-fuel emissions after a half-hour meeting in his private study.

Francis’s choice of gift suggests he is adding his voice to those pressing Trump not to renege on the Paris accord, which is the cornerstone of global efforts to limit climate change. The Vatican said in a statement that the talks focused on international affairs and the promotion of peace, with particular emphasis on health care, education and immigration.
The king of Vatican City receives the President of the United States:

Here is the **** of Babylon in all her devilish pomposity. Enjoy!

10 Things You May Not Know About the Vatican

The Vatican and Vatican City are many things to many people, but God has a rather unique name for it. The Bible calls the Roman Catholic Vatican system the “**** of Babylon”, and describes her in graphic detail in Revelation 17 and 18 in your King James Bible.

So here are 10 fun facts that you should know about the “mother of harlots” that is the Vatican.

    1. Vatican City is the smallest country in the world. Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres, making it one-eighth the size of New York’s Central Park. Vatican City is governed as an absolute monarchy with the pope at its head. The Vatican mints its own euros, prints its own stamps, issues passports and license plates, operates media outlets and has its own flag and anthem. One government function it lacks: taxation. Museum admission fees, stamp and souvenir sales, and contributions generate the Vatican’s revenue.
    2. St. Peter’s Basilica sits atop a city of the dead, including its namesake’s tomb. A Roman necropolis stood on Vatican Hill in pagan times. When a great fire leveled much of Rome in A.D. 64, Emperor Nero, seeking to shift blame from himself, accused the Christians of starting the blaze. He executed them by burning them at the stake, tearing them apart with wild beasts and crucifying them. Among those crucified was St. Peter—disciple of Jesus Christ, leader of the Apostles and the first bishop of Rome—who was supposedly buried in a shallow grave on Vatican Hill. By the fourth century and official recognition of the Christian religion in Rome, Emperor Constantine began construction of the original basilica atop the ancient burial ground with what was believed to be the tomb of St. Peter at its center. The present basilica, built starting in the 1500s, sits over a maze of catacombs and St. Peter’s suspected grave.
    3. Caligula captured the obelisk that stands in St. Peter’s Square. Roman Emperor Caligula built a small circus in his mother’s gardens at the base of Vatican Hill where charioteers trained and where Nero is thought to have martyred the Christians. To crown the center of the amphitheater, Caligula had his forces transport from Egypt a pylon that had originally stood in Heliopolis. The obelisk, made of a single piece of red granite weighing more than 350 tons, was erected for an Egyptian pharaoh more than 3,000 years ago. In 1586 it was moved to its present location in St. Peter’s Square, where it does double duty as a giant sundial.
    4. For nearly 60 years in the 1800s and 1900s, popes refused to leave the Vatican. Popes ruled over a collection of sovereign Papal States throughout central Italy until the country was unified in 1870. The new secular government had seized all the land of the Papal States with the exception of the small patch of the Vatican, and a cold war of sorts then broke out between the church and the Italian government. Popes refused to recognize the authority of the Kingdom of Italy, and the Vatican remained beyond Italian national control. Pope Pius IX proclaimed himself a “prisoner of the Vatican,” and for almost 60 years popes refused to leave the Vatican and submit to the authority of the Italian government. When Italian troops were present in St. Peter’s Square, popes even refused to give blessings or appear from the balcony overlooking the public space.
    5. Benito Mussolini signed Vatican City into existence. The dispute between the Italian government and the Catholic Church ended in 1929 with the signing of the Lateran Pacts, which allowed the Vatican to exist as its own sovereign state and compensated the church $92 million (more than $1 billion in today’s money) for the Papal States. The Vatican used the payment as seed money to re-grow its coffers. Mussolini, the head of the Italian government, signed the treaty on behalf of King Victor Emmanuel III.
    6. Popes did not live at the Vatican until the 14th century. Even after the construction of the original St. Peter’s Basilica, popes lived principally at the Lateran Palace across Rome. They even left the city altogether in 1309 when the papal court moved to Avignon, France, after King Philip IV arranged for a French cardinal to be elected pope. Seven popes, all French, ruled from Avignon, and the papacy did not return to Rome until 1377, by which time the Lateran Palace had burned and the Vatican started to be used as a papal residence. Much repair work needed to be done, however, because the Vatican had fallen into such disrepair that wolves dug for bodies in the cemetery and cows even wandered the basilica.
    7. The Swiss Guard was hired as a mercenary force. The Swiss Guard, recognizable by its armor and colorful Renaissance-era uniforms, has been protecting the pontiff since 1506. That’s when Pope Julius II, following in the footsteps of many European courts of the time, hired one of the Swiss mercenary forces for his personal protection. The Swiss Guard’s role in Vatican City is strictly to protect the safety of the pope. Although the world’s smallest standing army appears to be strictly ceremonial, its soldiers are extensively trained and highly skilled marksmen. And, yes, the force is entirely comprised of Swiss citizens.
    8. At several times during the Vatican’s history, popes escaped through a secret passageway. In 1277, a half-mile-long elevated covered passageway, the Passetto di Borgo, was constructed to link the Vatican with the fortified Castel Sant’Angelo on the banks of the Tiber River. It served as an escape route for popes, most notably in 1527 when it likely saved the life of Pope Clement VII during the sack of Rome. As the forces of Holy Roman Emperor Charles V rampaged through the city and murdered priests and nuns, the Swiss Guard held back the enemy long enough to allow Clement to safely reach the Castel Sant’Angelo, although 147 of the pope’s forces lost their lives in the battle.
    9. The majority of Vatican City’s 600 citizens live abroad. As of 2011, the number of people with Vatican citizenship totaled 594. That number included 71 cardinals, 109 members of the Swiss Guard, 51 members of the clergy and one nun inside the Vatican walls. The largest group of citizens, however, was the 307 members of the clergy in diplomatic positions around the world. With Benedict XVI residing as a pope emeritus in the Vatican, the population will increase by one when a new pope is named.
    10. The Vatican Observatory owns a telescope in Arizona. As Rome expanded, light pollution from the city made it increasingly difficult for astronomers at the Vatican Observatory—located 15 miles from the city at the papal summer residence in Castel Gandolfo—to view the night skies, so in 1981 the observatory opened a second research center in Tucson, Arizona. The Vatican conducts astronomical research with a state-of-the-art telescope that sits atop Mount Graham in southeast Arizona.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on May 29, 2017, 03:39:57 pm
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/05/28/trudeau-visits-italian-town-still-struggling-to-recover-from-2016-earthquake.html
Trudeau to raise residential school apology, climate change in meeting with Pope Francis

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission included the demand for a papal apology among the 94 recommendations in its report on the dark history and legacy of residential schools.


AMATRICE, ITALY—Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, plans to raise reconciliation with Indigenous peoples, the global fight against climate change and the importance of religious and cultural diversity when he meets with Pope Francis at the Vatican on Monday.

There, he will also ask the pontiff to issue a formal apology in Canada for the role of the Catholic Church in the residential school system.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission included the demand for a papal apology — to survivors, their families and communities — among the 94 recommendations in its report on the dark history and legacy of residential schools.

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Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 11, 2017, 06:25:40 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-demands-total-obedience-scathing-letter-nigerian-catholic-priests/
Pope Francis Demands ‘Total Obedience’ In Scathing Letter To ‘Renegade’ Nigerian Catholic Priests
Pope Francis has issued an ultimatum to the priests of the Diocese of Ahiara, giving them 30 days to write a letter promising absolute obedience to him along with the acceptance of their appointed bishop. Priests who do not write a personal letter imploring the Pope’s forgiveness will be suspended from the priesthood.

6/11/17

In what is perhaps the most strongly worded address of the Francis pontificate, the Pope blasted a group of Nigerian priests who have rejected the papal appointment of their bishop to the diocese of Ahiara, comparing them to the “murderous tenants” spoken of by Jesus in the gospel.

“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Pope Francis has amazingly written in a single letter everything you need to know about the Vatican and the Roman Catholic system. Some Catholic priests in Nigeria have decided to start thinking for themselves, and this ‘traitorous act’ was greeted with swift denunciation from the unholy, childless “father”, Pope Francis. In this letter he 1). demands total obedience of the priests to himself, 2). demands they worship the “holy mother”, and 3). tells them to write a letter to beg his forgiveness or “suffer the consequences”. Think I’m kidding? Click here to read the full letter on the official Vatican website.

The Pope goes on to describe the priests’ offense against the Church as a “mortal sin,” demanding that each one write a personal letter of apology manifesting “total obedience to the Pope.”

This act of rebellion goes beyond “tribalism,” Francis said, and is rather “an attempted taking of the vineyard of the Lord.”

The Ahiara diocese has been embroiled in controversy ever since 2012, when Pope Benedict XVI appointed Peter Okpaleke as its bishop, an appointment that was reportedly opposed by “lay people and priests of the diocese.”

Members of the local church have demanded a bishop from the Mbaise region, like their former bishop, the late Victor Adibe Chikwe, who came from Mbaise and was accepted as a “son of the soil.”

In 2013, Pope Francis appointed Cardinal John Onaiyekan as apostolic administrator of the diocese but no resolution to the crisis has been found.
Now, Pope Francis has issued an ultimatum to the priests of the Diocese of Ahiara, giving them 30 days to write a letter promising absolute obedience to him along with the acceptance of their appointed bishop. Priests who do not write a personal letter imploring the Pope’s forgiveness will be suspended from the priesthood.

On Wednesday, Pope Francis received a delegation from the Diocese of Ahiara, which included the Archbishop of Abuja and the apostolic administrator of Ahiara, Cardinal John O. Onaiyekan, along with a number of other Nigerian prelates and diocesan staff.

In the text of his address, released on Saturday by the Vatican, Pope Francis says that the behavior of the Ahiara clergy reminds him of “the parable of the murderous tenants, of which the Gospel speaks, that want to grasp the inheritance.”

I think that, in this case, we are not dealing with tribalism, but with an attempted taking of the vineyard of the Lord. The Church is a mother and whoever offends her commits a mortal sin, it’s very serious. However, I decided not to suppress the Diocese. Instead, I wish to give some indications that are to be communicated to all: first of all it must be said that the Pope is deeply saddened. Therefore, I ask that every priest or ecclesiastic incardinated in the Diocese of Ahiara, whether he resides there or works elsewhere, even abroad, write a letter addressed to me in which he asks for forgiveness; all must write individually and personally. We all must share this common sorrow. In the letter

1. one must clearly manifest total obedience to the Pope, and
2. whoever writes must be willing to accept the Bishop whom the Pope sends and has appointed.
3. The letter must be sent within 30 days, from today to July 9th, 2017. Whoever does not do this will be ipso factosuspended a divinis and will lose his current office.
This seems very hard, but why must the Pope do this? Because the people of God are scandalized. Jesus reminds us that whoever causes scandal must suffer the consequences. source

“Whoever was opposed to Bishop Okpaleke taking possession of the Diocese wants to destroy the Church,” Francis said. “This is forbidden; perhaps he does not realize it, but the Church is suffering as well as the People of God within her. The Pope cannot be indifferent.”

In his speech, the Pope praised the “holy patience” demonstrated by the bishop during these four years. He also states that he had considered “suppressing the Diocese,” but then thought that “the Church is a mother and cannot abandon her many children.”

Francis also suggests that the priests of the diocese “are being manipulated even from abroad and from outside the Diocese.”
“The Church is a mother and whoever offends her commits a mortal sin, it’s very serious,” Francis said, before laying out his ultimatum to the priests.

Every priest or ecclesiastic of the Diocese of Ahiara, Francis said, must “write a letter addressed to me in which he asks for forgiveness; all must write individually and personally. We all must share this common sorrow.”

In the letter, he continued, the priests “must clearly manifest total obedience to the Pope,” and “must be willing to accept the Bishop whom the Pope sends and has appointed.”

“The letter must be sent within 30 days, from today to July 9th, 2017. Whoever does not do this will be ipso facto suspended a divinis and will lose his current office,” Francis said.

“This seems very hard, but why must the Pope do this?” he continued. “Because the people of God are scandalized. Jesus reminds us that whoever causes scandal must suffer the consequences.” source


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 30, 2017, 01:39:18 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-defends-top-vatican-official-cardinal-george-pell-accused-child-sex-crimes/
Pope Francis Defends Top Vatican Official Cardinal George Pell Who Is Accused Of Child Sex Crimes
“Clearly, this case is going to turn up the heat on this pope’s record on examination of sexual abuse,” said John Allen, the editor of Crux, an independent website covering the Vatican and the church. But he predicted that Pell, who in his youth excelled at the rough-and-tumble sport of Australian rules football, would aggressively fight the charges.

6/30/17

Charges of sexual offenses against one of the Vatican’s top-ranking prelates have placed new pressure on Pope Francis to make good on pledges to root out, punish and prevent abuses that have shaken the Roman Catholic Church worldwide.

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:” Revelation 17:4 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Pope Francis has vowed to hold all Catholic priests responsible who have sexually abused children in thier various parishes around the world. Now comes the shocking news that a top Vatican cardinal, George Pell, has been charged with pedophilia. Pell is also the Pope’s senior advisor and confidant. Will Francis do the right thing, or will he continue to cover for **** priests while promising reform? To date, over 4,400 Catholic priests have been charged with pedophilia.

Cardinal George Pell, the most senior church official to be implicated in a far-flung scandal of decades’ standing, said Thursday that he would return to his native Australia to face the charges against him. He dismissed the charges as “relentless character assassination.”

The cardinal, who is a senior advisor to Francis, told reporters in Vatican City that the pontiff had granted him a leave of absence to contest the charges, which bring the globe-spanning abuse allegations directly to the gates of the Vatican.

Although cases of priest-committed pedophilia and their wrenchingly long-lasting repercussions remain an open wound in dozens of dioceses across the United States and other countries, it is rare for direct allegations of abuse to reach the level of a cardinal, each of whom is known as a “prince of the church.”

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 03, 2017, 10:29:04 am
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=84716
7/3/17
He's Done It Again!! The Pope Just Reversed The Vatican's Stance

On Sunday Pope Francis reversed the vatican's stance on parents being able to treat their terminally ill babies.

ABC News reported: Pope Francis called Sunday for the parents of a terminally ill British baby to be allowed to do everything possible to treat their 10-month-old son, amending the Vatican's previous position after conservatives complained.

In a statement, the Vatican press office said Francis "is following with affection and sadness the case of little Charlie Gard and expresses his closeness to his parents. For this he prays that their wish to accompany and treat their child until the end is not neglected."


The statement marked a shift from the views expressed by the head of the Vatican's Pontifical Academy for Life, the pope's bioethics advisory panel. In a June 30 statement, the academy president Monsignor Vincenzo Paglia said the parents' wishes should be respected, but that they must also be helped to understand the "unique difficulty of their situation."

He repeated the church's opposition to euthanasia, but also stressed the need to sometimes accept the limits of medicine.

Charlie, who suffers from a rare genetic condition and brain damage, is unable to breathe unaided. Last week, his parents lost a legal battle to take him to the U.S. for trial therapy.

Conservative blogs had harshly criticized Paglia's statement, saying it was condescending to the parents and had entirely missed a crucial issue at play: that both the hospital and the courts had intervened against the parents' wishes.

Paglia's statement "patronizes Charlie Gard's parents even as it distorts their situation and endorses a legal judgment against their wishes that was clothed in the language of euthanasia advocates," wrote Michael Brendan Dougherty in the National Review.

Conservatives have been highly critical of Francis' reform of the academy, which under the previous two pontificates had been a source of hard-line orthodoxy on all life issues. Francis recently overhauled the academy's membership, removing some of its most outspoken conservative experts.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 05, 2017, 02:44:47 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/vatican-police-break-gay-****-home-key-advisor-pope-francis-cardinal-francesco-coccopalmerio/
Vatican Police Break Up Gay **** In Home Of Key Advisor To Pope Francis Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio
Reports in Italy claim the occupant of the apartment is allegedly the secretary to Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio - a key aide to the 80-year-old Pope. Coccopalmerio heads the Pontifical Council for Legislative texts and was said to have once recommended his secretary for a promotion to bishop. The explosive claims were made in the Italian newspaper Il Fatto Quotidiano.

7/5/17

Vatican police have broken up a gay **** at the home of the secretary to one of Pope Francis’s key advisers, it has been reported. The flat belonged to the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which is in charge of tackling clerical sexual abuse.

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,” 1 Corinthians 6:9 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: In case you haven’t noticed, all the closest advisors to Pope Francis are being arrested on charges related to child sexual abuse and homosexual behavior. Just last week, Cardinal Pell was arrested to stand trial on charges of pedophilia, and now Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio on charges of having a gay **** in his home. If all the people who advise the pope are pedophiles and homosexuals, what does that say about Pope Francis?

Reports in Italy claim the occupant of the apartment is allegedly the secretary to Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio – a key aide to the 80-year-old Pope. Coccopalmerio heads the Pontifical Council for Legislative texts and was said to have once recommended his secretary for a promotion to bishop.

The explosive claims were made in the Italian newspaper Il Fatto Quotidiano.
The home of Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio was raided after reports of a ‘gay ****’ were taking place:

It is the latest scandal to hit the Vatican and comes after its finance chief Cardinal George Pell was charged with historical sexual offences. Pell has protested his innocence and said he was looking forward to having his day in court after a two-year investigation, ‘leaks to the media’ and ‘relentless character assassination’.  Police have not revealed details of the charges against the 76-year-old, citing the need to preserve the integrity of the judicial process.

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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 08, 2017, 01:33:34 pm
https://www.rt.com/news/395722-pope-g20-harms-migrants/
G20 forms ‘dangerous alliances,’ harms migrants around the world – Pope Francis
Published time: 8 Jul, 2017 11:48
Edited time: 8 Jul, 2017 11:50

The G20 harms migrants around the world, Pope Francis said in an interview with Italian media, adding that there are “dangerous alliances between powers which have a distorted view of the world.”

“The G20 worries me, it hits migrants in countries in half of the world and it hits them even more as time goes by,” Pope Francis told Eugenio Scalfari, founder of Italian daily La Repubblica, as cited by Reuters.

The pontiff added he was concerned about “very dangerous alliances between powers which have a distorted vision of the world: America and Russia, China and North Korea, [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and [Syrian leader Bashar] Assad over the war in Syria.”

“The danger concerns immigration. Our main and unfortunately growing problem in the world today is that of the poor, the weak, the excluded, which includes migrants,” he said, adding that wealthier countries "fear an invasion of migrants."

“This is why the G20 worries me: It mainly hits immigrants,” the pontiff stated. Francis, the first non-European pope in 1,300 years, also said that as the “richest continent in the whole world,” Europe will always attract migrants, and urged it not to see them as criminals.

Pope Francis has also been outspoken about the widespread prejudice faced by refugees and asylum seekers, and has consistently criticized the EU’s response to the ongoing migrant crisis, comparing it to the mass exodus of people during and after World War II.

The pope’s conversation with La Repubblica followed his Friday message to G20 leaders, who convened in Hamburg for a two-day summit. Quoted by Vatican Radio, the head of the Holy See urged world powers to “give absolute priority to the poor, refugees, the suffering, evacuees and the excluded, without distinction of nation, race, religion or culture.”

READ MORE: Pope calls European migrant centers ‘concentration camps,’ urges EU to open doors

He said that “states and individuals whose voice is weakest on the world political scene are precisely the ones who suffer most from the harmful effects of economic crises for which they bear little or no responsibility.”

Meanwhile, the pontiff went on, “this great majority, which in economic terms counts for only 10 percent of the whole, is the portion of humanity that has the greatest potential to contribute to the progress of everyone.”

Regrettably, however, “there is a tragic contradiction and inconsistency in the apparent unity expressed in common forums on economic or social issues, and the acceptance, active or passive, of armed conflicts,” the papal message concluded.

The G20 summit is taking place on July 7-8 in Hamburg, with economic and financial issues topping the high-profile meeting’s agenda. Germany, the host nation of the 2017 summit, also pushed for a broader discussion of curbing refugee flows, tackling poverty and providing access to renewable energy in underdeveloped countries.


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 21, 2017, 04:31:18 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/antichrist-pope-francis-tells-1-4-billion-catholics-personal-relationship-jesus-dangerous-harmful/
ANTICHRIST: Pope Francis Tells Catholics In Rome That A ‘Personal Relationship’ With Jesus Is ‘Dangerous And Harmful’
Sorry, Frankie, but the only relationship with Jesus that can save your soul is an intimate, personal and direct relationship with The One who bore your sins on the cross at Calvary. And you do not need the Roman **** to do that. In fact, it is the Catholic Church that keeps people from becoming saved.

7/20/17

The video in this article shows proof-positive, once and for all, that Pope Francis and the Vatican **** are the absolute, sworn enemies of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Make this video go viral and expose for all time the Vatican agenda to send your soul to Hell.

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” 1 John 2:18 (KJV)

Dropping all pretense of being the “vicar of Christ”, Pope Francis told a fawning crowd of 33,000 Catholics in Rome that “a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ” must be avoided at all costs. He stated repeatedly that the only relationship you can have with Jesus must be from within the confines of the Roman Catholic Vatican system. These are the words of Antichrist, see for yourself:

“There are those of you who believe that you can have a personal, direct and intimate relationship with Jesus Christ outside of the communion and mediation of the Catholic Church. These temptations are dangerous and harmful. They are, in the words of the great Pope Paul VI, ‘absurd dichotomies’. Pope Francis, June 25, 2017 Rome

Last week, Pope Francis told the Italian newspaper La Repubblica that the United States of America has “a distorted vision of the world” and Americans must be ruled by a world government, as soon as possible, “for their own good.”
Pope Francis Says ‘Personal Relationship With Jesus’ Is ‘Harmful And Dangerous’

The week before he also called for “a one world government” and “political authority”, arguing that the creation of the one world government is needed to combat major issues such as “climate change.”

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 17:5 (KJV)

Sorry, Frankie, but the only relationship with Jesus that can save your soul is an intimate, personal and direct relationship with The One who bore your sins on the cross at Calvary. And you do not need the Roman **** to do that. In fact, it is the Catholic Church that keeps people from becoming saved.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: ot of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8,9 (KJV)

Revelation 17 and 18 shows us clearly how God views the Roman Catholic Vatican system, what their true agenda is, and what their soon coming end will be. The video in this article shows proof-positive, once and for all, that Pope Francis and the Vatican **** are the absolute, sworn enemies of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Make this video go viral and expose for all time the Vatican agenda to send your soul to Hell.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:15 (KJV)


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on August 05, 2017, 12:55:53 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/climate-change-fraud-al-gore-now-says-become-catholic-pope-francis-preaches-global-warming/
Climate Fraud Al Gore Now Says He Could ‘Become A Catholic’ Because Pope Francis Preaches Global Warming
“I’m a Protestant, but I’ll tell you, because of Pope Francis, I really could become a Catholic. He is really an amazing spiritual leader,” Gore told Father John S. Rausch, who appeared with him on CNN Tuesday as part of a climate change town hall event. Gore, who was raised a Southern Baptist, went on to recommend that people of all faith traditions read Pope Francis’s environmental encyclical letter Laudato Si, “which really addressed the question that you’re asking here.”

8/5/17

Former vice president Al Gore told CNN that he would consider converting to Catholicism because of the witness of Pope Francis, particularly in the area of environmental concern.

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Al Gore, who has made over a billion dollars so far peddling climate change fear, has a new idol now. It’s none other that the Vicar of Antichrist, the Roman Pope Francis. In fact, Gore likes the pope so much he is now musing about becoming a Catholic. What does Pope Francis do that could compel Al Gore to become a Catholic? Simple, the pope preaches Climate Change, because that’s where all the money is. If you can’t see by now what a scam this whole thing is and how all these fakers are in cahoots together then, brother, you’re brain dead.

“I’m a Protestant, but I’ll tell you, because of Pope Francis, I really could become a Catholic. He is really an amazing spiritual leader,” Gore told Father John S. Rausch, who appeared with him on CNN Tuesday as part of a climate change town hall event.

Gore, who was raised a Southern Baptist, went on to recommend that people of all faith traditions read Pope Francis’s environmental encyclical letter Laudato Si, “which really addressed the question that you’re asking here.”

“There are many who are living in poverty, and they’re not only living in poverty, they’re living right next to polluted streams and mountains that have been destroyed,” Rausch said.
All religions have a messiah, and the high priest of Gaia worship Pope Francis is leading the charge:

The priest went on to assert the need to “influence people to see a spiritual connection in their consumer habits (so) that they can see the consequences of their buying, the consequences have on people in Appalachia and also in other parts of God’s kingdom.”

Father Rausch has said that he drives many thousands of miles each year, but whatever environmental degradation that ensues is worth it because of the important work he is doing.

“Dealing with issues in Appalachia requires me to drive 22,000 miles a year,” he said. “My carbon footprint may be big, but the region is ever expansive and demanding my driving.”

Nonetheless, other people should probably be driving less, the priest suggested, such as those who drive “100 miles for some sporting event” and think nothing of it.

“For essential driving,” he said, “we rely on community members to contribute some of their ‘carbon miles,’ so others can bring compassion to outside situations.”
This is what the false gospel of the Climate Change hoax looks like:

CNN labels this program “The Climate Crisis”, but no one but Liberals thinks it is a crisis. It begins with a falsehood and continues on downward from there.

 

In his comments, Mr. Gore echoed previous remarks he had made at a town hall event in 2015, where he also suggested that Pope Francis could inspire him to become a Catholic. In May of that year, Gore said in a talk at the University of California, Berkeley that he is inspired by Pope Francis’s leadership on environmental issues.

“I think Pope Francis is quite an inspiring figure really,” he said. “I’ve been startled with the clarity of the moral force that he embodies.” “And I know the vast majority of my Catholic friends are just thrilled to the marrow of their bones that he is providing this kind of spiritual leadership,” he said.

Gore got himself into trouble with black activists last month when he compared the fight against global warming to the emancipation of black slaves.

The fight against global warming is one of humanity’s great moral causes, Gore told participants in the EcoCity World Summit in Melbourne, alongside “the abolition of slavery, woman’s suffrage and women’s rights, the civil rights movement and the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa.”

In an online statement, black activists with the Project 21 leadership network denounced the comparison, saying that Gore “gives climate change activists unearned moral credibility” by associating these important moral movements of history with a crusade “grounded in questionable data.”

Project 21 Co-Chairman Horace Cooper went further still, saying that Gore’s climate alarmism stands to hurt black Americans most of all.

“Study after study demonstrate that the radical climate policies advocated by Al Gore, Jr. will hurt blacks and the poor most,” Cooper said. “Just as segregation and interracial marriage bans were purported to be for the good of all while clearly done to generate political support, today’s climate alarmism is pushed solely to get the support of a small group of so-called eco-warriors at the expense of blacks.” source


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 01, 2017, 09:53:27 am
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-urges-world-leaders-listen-cry-earth/
Pope Francis Urges World Leaders To ‘Listen To The Cry Of The Earth’
Pope Francis, who has a strong belief in the science of climate change, called upon world leaders on Wednesday to "listen to the cry of the Earth and the cry of the poor, who suffer most because of the unbalanced ecology." Francis and Patriarch Bartholomew I, the head of the Orthodox Christian Church, will issue a joint message to commemorate the annual "World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation" on Friday, the Associated Press reported.

by Geoffrey Grider August 31, 2017
Pope Francis to World Leaders: ‘Listen to the Cry of the Earth’

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.” Romans 1:22,23 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Pope Francis issued an urgent plea for all world governmental leaders to “listen to the cry of the Earth”. Hmm, I wonder why he would say that? Shouldn’t he be urging people to listen to the commands of Scripture instead? The Bible is very clear that God will destroy the Earth by fire in the end of days, and never once tells us to “listen” to it. Another interesting item Francis said was regarding the “care of creation”. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Cremation of Care ceremony at the Bohemian Grove club?

Pope Francis, who has a strong belief in the science of climate change, called upon world leaders on Wednesday to “listen to the cry of the Earth and the cry of the poor, who suffer most because of the unbalanced ecology.”

Francis and Patriarch Bartholomew I, the head of the Orthodox Christian Church, will issue a joint message to commemorate the annual “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation” on Friday, the Associated Press reported.

In 2015, the Pope designated Sept. 1 as “a precious opportunity to renew our personal participation in this vocation as custodians of creation,” framing the preservation of the environment as a moral responsibility.

Similarly, Bartholomew—who backed Francis’ 2015 encyclical on the environment, Laudato Si—once said:

“There has never been so much turmoil on our planet, but there has never been greater opportunity for communication, cooperation and dialogue. Basic human rights such as access to water, clean air and sufficient food should be available to everyone without distinction or discrimination. We are convinced that we cannot separate our concern for human dignity, human rights or social justice from the concern for ecological preservation and sustainability.”

Pope Francis has long pressed for strong climate action. In May, during their meeting at the Vatican, the pontiff gifted President Trump a copy of the climate encyclical right as POTUS considered whether the U.S. should exit from the Paris climate agreement. Trump, a notorious climate skeptic who does not agree with Francis about the global phenomenon, apparently didn’t take the Pope’s message to heart—he controversially withdrew the U.S. from the Paris accord just a month later. source


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 21, 2017, 03:57:41 pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-welcomes-terror-connected-leader-muslim-world-league-special-guest-vatican/
Pope Francis Welcomes Terror-Connected Leader Of The Antisemitic Muslim World League As Special Guest To Vatican
In 2004, Harper’s Magazine declared that the Muslim World League had been “long known to have funneled money to Al Qaeda” and is financed directly by the Saudi government. “MWL is an evangelical organization that was created to help spread Wahhabism, the Saudi brand of Islamic fundamentalism,” the article stated.

9/21/17

Pope Francis met with the secretary general of the Muslim World League (MWL) in the Vatican Wednesday, a group that has been tied to Saudi financing of jihadist terrorism and the 9/11 attacks in 2001.

“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” 2 John 1:7 (KJV)

“And say, “Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in His dominion and has no need of a protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with great glorification.” Surah 17:111 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: What’s funnier than the leader of the 9/11-connected Muslim World League preaching on the ‘Tolerance In Islam’? A man wearing a white dress who has no children and demands people refer to him as the ‘holy father’. The Bible says that anyone who won’t acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the Son of God is of Antichrist. Islam denies that God even has a Son at all, so I guess that puts them in the Antichrist category. But the Bible also calls the Catholic religion the “**** of Babylon”, so I guess Francis and Al-Issa had lots to discuss.

Dr. Muhammad bin Abdul Karim Al-Issa, who served for several years as Saudi minister of justice in Riyadh and is now secretary general of the MWL, expressed the appreciation of the Muslim world for the pope’s “fair positions” regarding “the false claims that link extremism and violence to Islam,” as well as for his insistence that extremism is not distinctive of Islam but is found among followers of all religions.

The Muslim World League is a Saudi Government-funded Islamic non-governmental organization, founded on May 18, 1962 in Mecca for the propagation of Islamic teachings. Despite the group’s official opposition to violence and terrorism and its pursuit of intercultural dialogue, it has been the subject of several ongoing counterterrorism investigations in the U.S. related to Hamas, al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

Two months after the 9/11 jihadist attacks on U.S. soil, Newsweek writer Evan Thomas reported that the Muslim World League was one of “two interrelated global charities” directly funded by the Saudi government that were used by Osama bin Laden to finance his operations. The organizations were left off the list of groups sanctioned by the United States “in order to avoid embarrassing the Saudi government,” Thomas wrote.

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Post by: Mark on September 24, 2017, 07:25:32 pm
Conservative Roman Catholic theologians accuse pope of spreading heresy



Several dozen tradition-minded Roman Catholic theologians, priests and academics have formally accused Pope Francis of spreading heresy with his 2016 opening to divorced and civilly remarried Catholics.

In a 25-page letter delivered to Francis last month and provided Saturday to The Associated Press, the 62 signatories issued a "filial correction" to the pope — a measure they said hadn't been employed since the 14th century.

The letter accused Francis of propagating seven heretical positions concerning marriage, moral life and the sacraments with his 2016 document "The Joy of Love" and subsequent "acts, words and omissions."

The initiative follows another formal act by four tradition-minded cardinals who wrote Francis last year asking him to clarify a series of questions, or "dubbia," they had about his 2016 text.

Francis hasn't responded to either initiative. The Vatican spokesman didn't immediately respond to an email seeking comment late Saturday.

None of the signatories of the new letter is a cardinal, and the highest-ranking churchman listed is actually someone whose organization has no legal standing in the Catholic Church: Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior of the breakaway Society of St. Pius X. Several other signatories are well-known admirers of the old Latin Mass which Fellay's followers celebrate.

But organizers said the initiative was nevertheless significant and a sign of the concern among a certain contingent of academics and pastors over Francis' positions, which they said posed a danger to the faithful.

"There is a role for theologians and philosophers to explain to people the church's teaching, to correct misunderstandings," said Joseph Shaw, a spokesman for the initiative, signatory of the correction and senior research fellow in moral philosophy at Oxford University.

When it was released in April 2016, "The Joy of Love" immediately sparked controversy because it opened the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion. Church teaching holds that unless these Catholics obtain an annulment — a church decree that their first marriage was invalid — they cannot receive the sacraments, since they are seen as committing adultery.

Francis didn't create a church-wide pass for these Catholics, but suggested — in vague terms and strategically placed footnotes — that bishops and priests could do so on a case-by-case basis after accompanying them on a spiritual journey of discernment. Subsequent comments and writings have made clear he intended such wiggle room, part of his belief that God's mercy extends in particular to sinners and that the Eucharist isn't a prize for the perfect but nourishment for the weak.

Shaw said none of the four cardinals involved in the initial "dubbia" letter, nor any other cardinal, was involved in the "filial correction."

Organizers said the last time such a correction was issued was to Pope John XXII in 1333 for errors which he later recanted.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-conservative-theologians-pope-heresy-20170923-story.html


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Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 24, 2017, 10:32:35 pm
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Conservative Roman Catholic theologians accuse pope of spreading heresy
The reprobate mind in today's world has reached an all-time low.


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Post by: Mark on December 01, 2017, 07:16:13 pm
Pope Francis Demotes Jesus Christ to Third, and Claims Mary as the Source of Our Hope

Pope Francis, the Jesuit, now claims that mother mary is the source of our hope, and not Jesus Christ. The absolute blasphemy sustained in this statement should make every catholic repent and turn to the truth; The Bible, rather than the doctrine of lies, the catholic church.

https://christianjournal.net/exposed/catholic-blasphemy/pope-francis-demotes-jesus-christ-third-place/


Pope Francis, the Jesuit, now claims that mother mary is the source of our hope, and not Jesus Christ.

The absolute blasphemy sustained in this statement should make every catholic repent and turn to the truth; The Bible, rather than the doctrine of lies, the catholic church.

According to the catholic doctrine, Jesus Christ is third on the list of whom grants us hope. Mary, the mother church, and then Jesus Christ.

“Thus, this is “our hope: we are not orphans, we have mothers”: first of all Mary. And then the Church, who is Mother “when she follows the same path of Jesus and Mary: the path of obedience, the path of suffering, and when her approach is to constantly learn the way of the Lord”.

The blasphemy protruding out of the pope’s mouth should shake the catholic church and turn it towards that of life, which is obtained only through a relationship with Jesus Christ, and not through a church; but rather a personal relationship with The Messiah.

Scripture clearly references Jesus Christ as the hope of our lives, not the church. This statement means that the pope is either; lacking knowledge regarding scripture, or it’s a deliberate plan to build the synagog of satan.

This statement is not the only time the pope has attacked Jesus Christ and nor will it be the last, however not too long ago the pope was also caught singing to lucifer rather than Jesus Christ.

It’s all in the twist. The pope continually twists scriptures to meet his narrative rather than that of Christ. Which clearly should show that the pope has an agenda to bring about the antichrist.

The position and title that Pope Francis has bestowed on Mary is, by his own words, equal or greater than that of the 2nd part of the Trinity, Jesus Christ. And though he has yet to use the words, he has effectually already placed her status firmly at the Godhead level.
Interesting thing, in the book of Revelation and speaking of the Roman Catholic Church, the apostle John writes this about that ‘holy mother church’:

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”Revelation 17:4-6
And that’s what God thinks of the “holy Roman Mother Church”.

The following is the transcript from the pope’s “Morning Meditation from hell”

Two women and mothers — Mary and the Church — bring Christ to a third woman, who resembles the first two but is “little”: our soul. The Pope reaffirmed, with these wholly female images, that without the motherhood of Mary and the Church we would not have Christ. “We are not orphans”, he recalled during the Mass celebrated in the chapel at Santa Marta.

Francis highlighted right away that “the Church, in the liturgy, leads us twice, for two days, one after the other, to Calvary”: in fact, “yesterday she made us contemplate the Cross of Jesus, and today his Mother at the Cross” (Jn 19:25-27). In particular, “yesterday she had us speak a word: glorious”. A word which refers to the “Cross of the Lord, because it brings life, it brings us glory”. But “today the strongest word of the liturgy is: Mother”. The Cross is glorious; the Mother humble, gentle”, the Mother whom the liturgy celebrates today as Our Lady of Sorrows.

Meditating on the Mother leads us directly to Jesus as son. Referring to the day’s Reading (Heb 5:7-9), the Pontiff pointed out that “in the passage from the Letter to the Hebrews, Paul emphasizes three strong words, speaking of Jesus the Son: he learned, he obeyed and he suffered”. Jesus, in essence “learned obedience and suffered”. Thus, “it is the opposite of what had befallen our father Adam, who had not learned what the Lord commanded, who had neither suffered nor obeyed”. Moreover, the Pope stated, “this passage from the Letter to the Hebrews reminds us of another passage from the Letter to the Philippians: “although he was in the form of God, he did not consider it an inalienable right; he renounced it, he humbled himself and took the form of a servant. This”, Pope Francis continued, “is the glory of the Cross of Jesus” who “came to the world to learn to be a man and, being man, to walk with men. He came to the world in obedience and he obeyed”. But “this obedience was learned through suffering”.

“Adam left Paradise with a promise”, he proceeded, “which went on throughout many centuries. Today, with this obedience, with this self-denial, this humbling of Jesus, that promise has become hope”. And “the People of God journey with confident hope”.

Mary too, “the Mother, the New Eve, as Paul himself called her, follows this path of her son: she learned, she suffered and she obeyed”. She “became ‘Mother’. We could say that she is the ‘anointed Mother’, the Pontiff affirmed, and the same is true for the Church.

Thus, this is “our hope: we are not orphans, we have mothers”: first of all Mary. And then the Church, who is Mother “when she follows the same path of Jesus and Mary: the path of obedience, the path of suffering, and when her approach is to constantly learn the way of the Lord”.

“These two women — Mary and the Church — carry on the hope which is Christ, they give us Christ, they generate Christ in us”, the Bishop of Rome emphasized. Thus “without Mary, Jesus Christ would not have been; without the Church, we cannot go forward”. They are “two women and two mothers”.

“Mary”, Francis explained, “remained steadfast at the Cross, she was bonded with the son because she had accepted him and she knew, more or less, that a sword awaited her: Simon had told her so”. Mary is “the steadfast Mother”, he continued, “who gives us certainty on this path of learning, of suffering and of obedience”. And Mother Church is also “steadfast when she adores Jesus Christ and she guides us, teaches us, shelters us, helps us on this path of obedience, of suffering, of learning this wisdom of God”.

Moreover, the Pontiff again affirmed, “our soul also takes part in this, when it opens itself to Mary and to the Church: according to monk and abbot, Isaac of Stella, our soul is also female and likewise resembles Mary and the Church”. Thus “today, looking at the Cross, this woman — steadfastly following her son, suffering in order to learn obedience — we see the Church and we see our Mother”. But “we also see our little soul”, which will never be lost if it too continues to be a woman close to those two great women who accompany us in life: Mary and the Church”.

Francis concluded by recalling that “as our fathers left Paradise with a promise, today we are able to go forward with hope: the hope we are given by Mary, steadfast at the Cross, and our hierarchical Holy Mother Church”.

–September, 2014

https://christianjournal.net/exposed/catholic-blasphemy/pope-francis-demotes-jesus-christ-third-place/


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Post by: Mark on December 08, 2017, 01:59:07 am
POPE FRANCIS SAYS HE WANTS TO CHANGE THE WORDS IN THE ‘LORD’S PRAYER’ TO BE MORE ROMAN CATHOLIC

Pope Francis said the Roman Catholic Church should adopt a better translation of the phrase 'lead us not into temptation' in the Italian version of the Lord's Prayer.  He said the current phrasing, which is the same in English and many other languages, suggests that it is God who has a choice to lead us into temptation or not. 'That is not a good translation, because it speaks of a God who induces temptation',' the pope said in a television interview on Wednesday night. Francis said the Catholic Church in France had opted for a different phrasing, which worked around this particular issue.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-says-will-rewrite-lords-prayer-gospel-matthew-6/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on February 10, 2018, 08:43:57 pm
Pope Francis Prays Towards Mecca, States: Islam is Religion of Peace, Europe Should Open Borders to Muslims

“Europe has forgotten its God and it now needs to allow in more illegal Muslim migrants,” stated Pope Francis in a recent speech to the EU.

When the Pope visited Turkey in 2014, he prayed in Istanbul’s Blue Mosque towards Mecca and stated it would be wrong to equate Islam with violence.

“Fanaticism and fundamentalism, as well as irrational fears which foster misunderstanding and discrimination, need to be countered by the solidarity of all believers,” Pope Francis stated in a speech to Turkey President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other political leaders.

https://www.jewsnews.co.il/2018/02/09/pope-francis-prays-towards-mecca-states-islam-is-religion-of-peace-europe-should-open-borders-to-muslims.html


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Post by: Mark on March 15, 2018, 10:31:50 pm
Vatican Doctored Photo of Benedict’s Praise for Pope Francis

 :D

https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/scott-slayton/vatican-doctored-photo-of-benedict-s-praise-for-pope-francis.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on March 29, 2018, 09:58:09 pm
Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'

In another interview with his longtime atheist friend, Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis claims that Hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear." This is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church about the reality of Hell and the eternal existence of the soul.

The interview between Scalfari and the Pope was published March 28, 2018 in La Repubblica. The relevant section on Hell was translated by the highly respected web log, Rorate Caeli.

The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.")

Scalfari says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?"

Pope Francis says,  "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, 'eternal fire.' The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs." (1035)

The Catechism further states, "The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: 'Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.'

"Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where 'men will weep and gnash their teeth.'"

Pope Benedict XVI said in a 2007 sermon, “Jesus came to tell us that he wants us all in Heaven and that Hell, of which so little is said in our time, exists and is eternal for those who close their hearts to his love.”

As for the human soul, the Catholic Church teaches that it is eternal, immortal in countless places throughout the Catechism.  One instance, "Endowed with 'a spiritual and immortal' soul, the human person is 'the only creature on earth that God has willed for its own sake.' From his conception, he is destined for eternal beatitude." (1703)

* In a statement released on Mar. 29, after Scalfari's report garnered worldwide attention, the Vatican said:

"The Holy Father Francis recently received the founder of the newspaper La Repubblica in a private meeting on the occasion of Easter, without however giving him any interviews. What is reported by the author in today’s article [in La Repubblica] is the result of his reconstruction, in which the textual words pronounced by the Pope are not quoted. No quotation of the aforementioned article must therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father."

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell


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Post by: Mark on April 21, 2018, 04:56:07 pm
Pope Francis Comforts Grieving Boy By Telling Him His Atheist Father Is 'Surely In Heaven' Because He Was A 'Good Man'

Watch as the Pope comforts a grieving boy who feared his atheist father isn’t in heaven – and tells him that God is ‘surely proud’ of his dad, and that God wouldn’t leave a ‘good man’ out of Heaven’

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8,9 (KJV)

https://youtu.be/QySrCt4oE5o

EDITOR’S NOTE: Over the years we’ve brought you stories about some of the spiritually horrific acts committed by various popes, past and present, not limited to and including Pope Francis warning people against have a ‘personal relationship’ with Jesus Christ. But this story, in my opinion, is far and away the worst one because not only did the pope lie about the very clear Bible teaching on salvation, he also gave this young boy and all the others presents a false hope on how people get to Heaven. Unsaved people do not and cannot go to Heaven because Heaven is only for believers redeemed by the shed blood of Jesus Christ. People do not go to Heaven because they are ‘good’, and they don’t go to Hell because they were ‘bad’. Heaven is for saved people and Hell is for the unsaved. That’s what the Bible teaches. It is for reasons exactly like this that we continue to believe and teach that the Roman Catholic Church is not only not the church that Jesus started, it is not even Christian by any Biblical standard.

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.” Hebrews 11:6 (KJV)

This is the touching moment Pope Francis comforted a grieving boy who was worried his father didn’t go to heaven as he was an atheist. The boy, known only as Emanuele, broke down in tears as he approached the microphone to take part in a Q&A session with the pontiff who visited the St. Paul of the Cross parish on the outskirts of Rome on Sunday.

According to The National Catholic Reporter, Pope Francis told the crowd that Emanuele’s father, who had recently passed away, was a ‘good man’ but hadn’t believed in God.

And he reassured the heartbroken boy that his late father was in heaven because God is ‘surely proud of him’.  The touching moment took place when Emanuele broke down while crying. Unable to get his words out, the Pope beckoned him to come forward and whisper the question and they pair had a private chat and shared a hug.
With Emanuele’s permission, the Pope told the crowd that the boy had shown ‘courage’ to cry in front of everyone.

‘If that man was able to make his children like that, then it’s true, he was a good man.

“That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn’t a believer, but he had his children baptized. He had a good heart,” Francis said.

He explained that God makes the decision on who is welcomed into heaven and said that he has ‘a dad’s heart’.

Describing Emanuele’s father, he said: ‘Do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself? Does God abandon his children when they are good?

The children in the crowd shouted back: ‘No.’ ‘There, Emanuele, that is the answer,’ the pope told Emanuele. ‘God surely was proud of your father.’ source

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-comforts-grieving-boy-by-telling-him-his-atheist-father-is-surely-in-heaven-because-he-was-a-good-man/


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Post by: Mark on May 20, 2018, 11:44:42 pm
Pope Francis tells gay man ‘God made you like this and loves you like this’

PAPAL HEAL

The remarks were made to a victim of clerical sexual abuse and are the most striking acceptance of homosexuality by the Catholic Church to date

POPE Francis has told a gay man that God loves him during a private meeting, it has been claimed.

In a private dialogue, the Pontiff is understood to have told Juan Carlos Cruz, a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of Catholic priests, that God loves gay people and it is fine to be homosexual.
Juan Carlos Cruz is a key whistleblower in Chile's most famous case of clerical sex abuse

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Juan Carlos Cruz is a key whistleblower in Chile's most famous case of clerical sex abuse

The comments are the most striking public acceptance about homosexuality ever made by a head of the Roman Catholic Church.

The remarks were made during a private meeting at the Vatican between the pair, in which the Pope offered a heartfelt apology.

Cruz was a victim of Chile’s most notorious paedophile priest Fernando Karadima.

Father Karadima, now aged 87, was found guilty of sexual abuse by the Vatican in 2011.

Chilean sexual abuse victims Jose Andres Murillo (R), James Hamilton (C) and Juan Carlos Cruz (L) in Rome

Cruz claims that his suffering was ignored by a number of Latin American bishops who used his homosexuality to brand him a liar when he spoke out.

Speaking to Spanish newspaper El País, Cruz said: “He [the Pope] told me, ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter.

“God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care.

“The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.”

The Pope’s words signal a much more open and inclusive approach by the often restrictive faith – a move which will likely upset many conservative Catholics.

The Vatican has neither confirmed nor denied the comments the Pontiff’s comments to Cruz.
This is not the first time Pope Francis’ comments have suggested a more open and tolerant attitude toward homosexuality

Reuters
This is not the first time Pope Francis’ comments have suggested a more open and tolerant attitude toward homosexuality

The Catholic Church teaches that gay sex – and all sex outside of heterosexual marriage – is a sin.

This is not the first time Pope Francis’ comments have suggested a more open and tolerant attitude toward homosexuality.

In July 2013, when responding to a reporter’s question about the existence of an alleged “gay lobby” within the Vatican, Pope Francis said: “If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?"

The Pontiff’s most recent remarks come as several high profile members of the clergy have sought to publicly make amends with gay Catholics, many of whom say they feel shunned an d unwelcome in the church.
It is the most striking public acceptance about homosexuality ever made by a Pontiff

AP:Associated Press
It is the most striking public acceptance about homosexuality ever made by a Pontiff

Juan Carlos Cruz was one of three former sex abuse victims from Chile who were summoned to Rome to receive an apology from the Pontiff for years of abuse endured by them as children.

The victims described clerical sexual abuse as “an epidemic that has destroyed thousands of lives.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6337719/pope-francis-gay-man-god-loves-you/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on June 21, 2018, 06:17:41 pm
Pope Francis Instructs The Vatican To Make Unprecedented Move To Pull LGBTQ Into The Catholic Church

The Vatican this month is showing unprecedented outreach on issues of human sexuality, using what’s believed to be for the first time the term LGBT in a planning document for a huge upcoming bishops meeting.

“And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.” Revelation 18:4,5 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: I went to the web site of the Catholic Church where I grew up, and was surprised/not surprised to see a prominent graphic announcing that St. Mary’s Church was now a proud, LGBTQ welcoming church. I clicked on the link to that graphic, and it brought me to a site called the Tri-State LGBTQ Interparish Collaborative. A tab on that site invited me to attend the St. Francis of Assisi Pride Mass on June 28th. I think you see where I am going with all of this. Pope Francis has been acquiring by stealth the LGBTQ community for years now. And Catholic Churches all over the world have been following his lead with ‘under the radar’ outreach to the LGBTQ community. Not an outreach to give them the gospel, mind you, but an outreach to confirm them in their lifestyle choices and to comfort them with the false hope that God accepts you as you are and will leave you that way. The message of the pope to the LGBTQ community is loud and clear – God made you gay, be proud and embrace it. Will the Vatican change their official position on homosexuality? They already have.

Vatican officials also invited to speak at a second global meeting a prominent advocate for LGBT people, something some gay Catholic groups say has never been done. The two moves, announced in the last 10 days, are being seen by church-watchers as largely an effort to speak in a more respectful way with a younger generation of Catholics who are confronting the church on topics from female priests and abortion to sexuality – but who are clearly not ready to totally walk away from the faith.

The efforts related to the Synod of Bishops on Young People (in October) and the World Meeting of Families (in August) are part of an explicit push by Pope Francis‘ church to say “we have to pay attention to this whole LGBT reality, especially for those who have chosen to remain in the church,” said the Rev. Thomas Rosica, who has often served as an English assistant to the Vatican press office.

On Tuesday, the Vatican released the details of the upcoming bishops’ synod, or meeting, the third in a series of major global gatherings about the family. The others were in 2014 and 2015. While the document was released only in Italian, the National Catholic Reporter noted that it was the first time the acronym was used. The Catholic Church “has in the past formally referred to gay people as ‘persons with homosexual tendencies,’ ” the Reporter said.

Rosica agreed it was a first, but said “they’re just using the lingo young people use. There’s nothing earth-shattering.” Vatican spokeswoman Paloma Garcia Ovejero declined to comment on the reason for the adoption of the acronym beyond saying, “I guess there’s no specific answer … it’s just the result of so many proposals and will be used as a ‘tool’ for discussion.”

Vatican spokesman Greg Burke did not return request for comment. source
Catholic Cardinal in Washington Accused of Sex Abuse

The Vatican has also asked retired Washington, D.C., Archbishop Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, to cease public ministry after finding he was credibly accused of sexually abusing a teenager almost 50 years ago, the archdiocese and McCarrick said on Wednesday.

McCarrick is among the highest-ranking of the more than 6,700 U.S. Roman Catholic clerics to be accused of sexually abusing children since the church’s sex abuse scandal broke in 2002, according to BishopAccountability.org, a private group that tracks the allegations. source

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-instructs-the-vatican-to-make-unprecedented-move-to-pull-lgbtq-into-the-catholic-church/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on August 20, 2018, 10:12:25 am
Pope names new Vatican bishop who claims Jesus didn’t ‘establish rules’

Pope Francis has consecrated as a bishop a Portuguese priest who claims that Jesus didn’t “establish rules” and who promotes the theology of a dissenting nun who defends the legalization of abortion and homosexual “marriage.”

José Tolentino Mendonça, a priest and poet who was the vice-rector Catholic University of Lisbon, will now be heading the Vatican Secret Archives for Pope Francis, a post he will assume in September of this year.

“The Holy Father expects of me that I will continue to be an instrument of dialogue and of rapprochement between the Church and the culture,” Mendonça told the Portuguese news service SAPO 24. “That is what I will do, apart from the Apostolic Library, undoubtedly placing my talents and my way of doing things at the service of the Church, and writing is a form of communication I will continue to bet on as the place of representation, of communication of Jesus in the world of today.”

Asked by SAPO 24 if he was open to the pope’s reforms, Mendonça answered that his appointment “certainly is to place me in close proximity with his message, with his program for the Church of our time.”

Tolentino Mendonça is yet another theologian associated with Pope Francis who has close ties with homosexual advocacy. Mendonça has associated himself closely with Teresa Forcades, a Spanish nun who has become famous for claiming that homosexual “marriage” should be legal and that abortion should be permitted as part of a right of “self-determination.”

In the earlier part of the 2010s, Mendonça worked in an LGBT “Catholic” ministry that served homosexuals who embrace the “gay” identity but were left to their own spiritual guidance. Regarding the ministry, Mendonça told the Portuguese publication Publico in 2010 that “the Church isn’t a place of fullness, it’s a place of searching. Our condition is thirst and desire. It isn’t here and now that we realize our dreams. The Church is this common road, not exempt from imperfections, open to a kind of progressivity.” He added that the Church had to welcome people in a way that is “unconditional.” The Publico article implied that members of the group were continuing to engage in homosexual acts.

Mendonça was invited by Pope Francis to preach and give spiritual guidance at his Lenten retreat this year, from February 18 to February 23. In addition to the pope, other high Vatican officials were also in attendance.

READ: Pope Francis chooses pro-LGBT priest to guide Lent retreat who holds Jesus didn’t ‘establish rules’

Following the retreat Francis thanked Mendonça for having “shown how [the Holy Spirit] works in non-believers, in ‘pagans,’ in people of other religious confessions” and that the Holy Spirit “is universal, it is the Spirit of God, which is for everyone. . . Thank you for this call to open ourselves, without fear, without rigidity, to be pliable to the Spirit and not mummified in our structures that enclose us.”
Opposition to 'traditionalism' in the Church

In his 2013 introduction to the Portuguese translation of her book, “Feminist Theology in History,” Mendonça compares LGBT activist Teresa Forcades to St. Hildegard of Bingham.  He writes that her theology is expressed in “a form that is symbolic, open, and sensitive about addressing the real” as opposed to the Church’s traditional way of speaking in clear, non-metaphorical terms, which he calls “the triumphal univocal grammars that we know.”

“It’s necessary that the doctrinal narrative understands itself to be more of a reading than a writing, more like a voyage than a place, because the memory that transports is not reducible to a legal code, a vision, something automatic,” writes Mendonça, claiming that such a theology is given to us by Forcades. “It is precisely here that the frightening [provoking] work of Teresa Forcades i Vila, Feminist Theology in History, which the reader has in his hands, comes to our aid,” he writes.

“Teresa Forcades i Vila reminds of that which is essential: that Jesus of Nazareth did not codify, nor did he establish rules,” writes Mendonça. “Jesus lived. That is, he constructed an ethos of relation, somatized the poetry of his message in the visibility of his flesh, expressed his own body as a premise.”

In 2016, Mendonça gave an interview to the Lisbon Radio station Renascença, in which he denounced Catholics, and particularly cardinals, who have criticized Pope Francis’ deviations from traditional Catholic doctrine,  dismissing their views as “traditionalism,” which he claims actually contradicts the Church’s tradition.

“Today, we see Pope Francis being contradicted by a more conservative wing of the Church and by some important names, even cardinals, which in a certain way are willing to place traditionalism above the tradition,” said Mendonça.

Regarding Pope Francis “welcoming” attitude towards those who are stubbornly living in gravely sinful situations of homosexuality and adultery, Mendonça told the interviewer, “No one can be excluded from the love and mercy of Christ. And that experience of mercy has to be taken to everyone, whether they are Christians who are remarried, wounded by disastrous matrimonial experiences, whether it be the reality of new families, whether it be homosexual persons, who in the Church must find a space to be heard, a place of welcome and mercy.”

Also in 2016, Mendonça introduced his new book, “Towards a theology of the senses,” at a press conference in which he was joined by Forcades.
Vatican archivist position crucial in project to revise doctrine on contraception

The position of Vatican Archivist given to Mendonça is a key one in the current context of Vatican politics. In recent months Pope Francis has been giving exclusive and unprecedented access to the Vatican Secret Archives to a small group of scholars who appear bent on altering the Catholic Church’s doctrine regarding contraception.

The scholars, including Gilfredo Marengo of the Pontifical John Paul Institute, Pierangelo Sequeri, president of the same institute, Philippe Chenaux, a professor of Church history at the Pontifical Lateran University, and Angelo Maffeis, president of the Paul VI Institute of Brescia, are in the process of creating a revisionist history of the formulation of the papal encyclical Humanae vitae, which reiterated the Catholic Church’s perennial condemnation of artificial birth control.

As a step in this process, Marengo has recently produced a book that claims Humanae Vitae was devoid of “any tone of doctrinal and disciplinary rigor” and instead focused on “the perspective of accompanying couples, who are invited to progressively adhere to the fullness of the Christian form of their mutual love,” an interpretation that dovetails with Pope Francis’ agenda of making moral absolutes into “ideals” which Christians are not expected nor required to fulfill.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-elevates-to-bishop-pro-gay-priest-who-says-jesus-didnt-establi


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on April 26, 2019, 04:49:02 am
“The mafia is ours, Made in Italy,” Pope Francis stated on Saturday, infuriating Italians!

During a speech last Saturday, while receiving a delegation of students, teachers, and parents of the San Carlo Institute, a high school in Milan, Italy, on the occasion of its 150th anniversary, the Jesuit Pope shocked and angered Italy once again.

The Pope engaged in a Q&A session, and at one point after justifying his own Communist values by saying “This is not Communism, but the teaching of Jesus” he went on to shock the audience by saying that migrants are not criminals, and the Mafia was not invented by Nigerians.

Pope Francis, in typical Godfather style fashion, stated,” The mafia is ours, made in Italy: it is ours,” adding, “We all have the chance to be criminals.” He went on to say that, on the contrary, migrants bring us riches, a statement that made many Italians furious! Read the rest here

http://leozagami.com/2019/04/08/the-mafia-is-ours-made-in-italy-pope-francis-stated-on-saturday-infuriating-italians/


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Post by: Mark on September 19, 2019, 06:57:42 am
Pope Francis Invites World Leaders To May 14, 2020 Global Educational Alliance At Vatican Reptile Hall For ‘Nurturing The Dream Of Humanism’

In his own words, Pope Francis is now working create a ‘global alliance’ that will ‘foster humanism’, and he wants to hold the kickoff meeting on the 72nd anniversary of the regathering of Israel, in a reptile-shaped building in the Vatican. I know you think I am making this up, but I promise you it’s all true.

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-invites-world-leaders-to-may-14-2020-global-educational-alliance-foster-humanism-reptile-building-vatican/


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Post by: Mark on September 20, 2019, 06:06:21 am
Globalist Pope Francis calls for new ‘supranational’ authorities that would to rule countries and enforce UN goals

Pope Francis made a strong new push for globalism on Thursday, calling for a supranational, legally constituted body to enforce United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goals and implement “climate change” policies.


https://www.frontlinesnews.com/2019/09/18/globalist-pope-francis-calls-for-new-supranational-authorities-that-would-to-rule-countries-and-enforce-un-goals.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on September 22, 2019, 06:09:36 pm
The Pope proudly says that the Koran is a book of peace because Islam is not a violent religion

Maybe he has a different version than the rest of the world…

Pope Francis has said it was wrong to identify Islam with violence and that social injustice and idolatry of money were among the prime causes of terrorism.

“I think it is not right to identity Islam with violence,” he told reporters aboard the plane taking him back to Rome after a five-day trip to Poland. “This is not right and this is not true.”

The pope was responding to a question about the killing of an 85-year-old Roman Catholic priest during a church service in western France. The attackers forced the priest to his knees and slit his throat. The killing was claimed by Islamic State....

https://www.frontlinesnews.com/2019/09/20/the-pope-proudly-says-that-the-koran-is-a-book-of-peace-because-islam-is-not-a-violent-religion.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 07, 2019, 08:04:36 am
The Pope Sides With Muslims Over Israel’s Claim to Jerusalem

Never one to miss an opportunity to take a side against the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Pope has once again weighed in on a political hot button topic. Just one day after President Trump boldly declared the United States would recognize Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel, the Pope jumped into the debate to say he was “worried” about Trump’s plan:

https://www.frontlinesnews.com/2019/11/06/the-pope-sides-with-muslims-over-israels-claim-to-jerusalem.html


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 08, 2019, 08:31:00 am
Pope Francis Advances The One World Religion At Vatican With Female Shaman Leading ‘Worship Service’ Dedicated To Inca Mother Earth Goddess Pachamama At Amazon Synod

For Archbishop Viganó this is consistent with Francis’ aberrant Abu Dhabi declaration that alleges that “God wills all religions.” Viganó observes that Francis personally practiced the Pachamama cult in the Vatican gardens, in St Peter’s Basilica and during the Synod closing Mass by placing an idolatrous plant on the altar. He calls this Pachamama show “an initiatory rite of the new religion” in order to align the Church with anti-human and anti-Christian strategies that dominate the globalist scene and are supported by those in power.

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-welcomes-female-shaman-vatican-leads-worship-service-dedicated-to-inca-goddess-pachamama-amazon-mother-earth/


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Post by: Mark on November 08, 2019, 08:36:14 am
Statue of ancient god of child sacrifice put on display in Rome

A reconstruction of a pagan idol who demanded child sacrifice was stationed at the entrance of Rome’s Colosseum as part of a secular historical exhibition.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/statue-of-ancient-god-of-child-sacrifice-put-on-display-in-rome-days-before-amazon-synod


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Post by: Mark on March 30, 2020, 09:08:35 am

Pope Francis, Alone In St. Peter's Basilica, Lifts Up Monstrance Of The Sun God And Calls On 'Intercession Of Mary' To Save World From COVID-19 • Now The End Begins

by Geoffrey Grider


Like a scene from out of the Chick tract, “Why Is Mary Crying?‘, Pope Francis stood alone in a rain-swept Saint Peter’s Basilica in Rome, lifted up the golden Catholic idol of the Sun God called the ‘blessed sacrament’, and called on the Virgin Mary to ‘save the world’ from the COVID-19 coronavirus. You will note that none of what Pope Francis did during the ceremonial ritual so important to Catholics is found anywhere in the Bible, except in places forbidding such practices.

“The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?” Jeremiah 7:18,19 (KJB)

No one in the New Testament every asked Mary’s advice on anything, in the Upper Room on the day of Pentecost, she was a silent observer, Peter was the one in charge. Mary’s help or assistance is never recorded. Yet amazingly, the Roman Catholic church would like us to believe that not only is she the channel through which “all graces flow”, that even salvation through Jesus Christ is not possible unless she intercedes for you.

Wow, talk about a promotion for Mary, and also true, talk about fantasy. Everything about the Roman Catholic Church comes from paganism, talk a look at the following.
Lent Is Actually The Pagan ‘Weeping For Tammuz’ Ritual

The Roman Catholic Church would have you to believe that Lent is taken from the 40 days that Jesus spent in the wilderness, but is really the pagan rite of Weeping for Tammuz.

LENT WAS CREATED BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND TAKEN FROM THE BABYLONIAN PRACTICE OF WEEPING FOR TAMMUZ

The rituals performed by the Roman Catholic church are not found in the New Testament, they are found partially in the Old Testament, as well as in the mystery religions from ancient Babylon and Egypt. Look at the photo at the top, and you will see Pope Francis holding up a golden sunburst device called a ‘monstrance’ which holds the ‘blessed sacrament’ of the Eucharist that they pray to. They call it the ‘adoration of the Blessed Sacrament’, and it is idol worship. You will note that not only is the device in the shape of a golden sun, Pope Francis is also wearing a garment with a golden sun on the back. Please note the following:
The Vatican And The Sun God

    In the middle of St. Peter’s Square is an ancient Egyptian obelisk, which represents the Sun god Ra of Egypt.
    The pagans believe that their Sun god is conceived on 3/21, the Spring Equinox.  You can see this played out annually at the Vatican, when the rising Sun causes the shadow of the Egyptian obelisk (which is a phallic symbol representing Nimrod, the ‘mighty hunter’) to fall towards the dome of St. Peter’s Basilica (symbolizing the womb of the moon goddess Semiramis), representing their annual sexual union.
    St. Peter’s Basilica has a huge sun symbol behind the stage where the Pope sits.
    The Eucharist host wafer is round, representing the sun god, Tammuz. This is why it has a “+” stamped on the front. They hold it up to worship it.
    Then they place it on a crescent moon (representing the female womb of the moon goddess), which represents their symbolic sexual union. This symbolically makes the wafer the flesh of their Sun god Tammuz. This is carried out every day, thousands of times a day throughout the world.
    Lent ends with Easter when it is tradition to eat ham. This symbolizes the remembrance of Tammuz, who was killed by a wild boar.

If the apostle Peter, whom the Catholic church says is their ‘first pope’ could somehow come back and watch Pope Francis performing these rituals, Peter would know instantly what he was looking at. He’d be looking at idol worship in pagan Rome, where he was executed by the Romans 2,000 years ago. Neither Peter or any of the apostles ‘adored the Eucharist’, asked Mary to ‘intercede to Jesus’ on their behalf, observed Lent, or celebrated Christmas or Easter. These practices would not be created until the start of the Roman Catholic Church that began in 325 AD.

“And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.” Revelation 18:4,5 (KJB)

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“I would like this evening to entrust all of you to the Lord, through the intercession of Mary”

FROM VATICAN NEWS: Standing in a deserted St. Peter’s Square with a steady rain falling, Pope Francis spoke to the world through all the means of modern communication: Facebook, YouTube, TV, and radio.

He prayed for the world at this critical juncture in the presence of two images that have accompanied the people of Rome for centuries: the ancient icon of Mary Salus Populi Romani – usually housed in the Basilica of St. Mary Major – and the miraculous crucifix kept in the church of San Marcello on the city’s Via del Corso.

Most importantly, the Pope exposed the Blessed Sacrament for adoration and imparted his Apostolic Blessing, offering everyone the opportunity to receive a plenary indulgence.

Concluding his meditation, Pope Francis entrusted us all to the Lord, through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, so that our faith might not waiver in this time of crisis.

    “Dear brothers and sisters, from this place that tells of Peter’s rock-solid faith, I would like this evening to entrust all of you to the Lord, through the intercession of Mary, Health of the People and Star of the stormy Sea. From this colonnade that embraces Rome and the whole world, may God’s blessing come down upon you as a consoling embrace. Lord, may you bless the world, give health to our bodies and comfort our hearts. You ask us not to be afraid. Yet our faith is weak and we are fearful. But you, Lord, will not leave us at the mercy of the storm. Tell us again: ‘Do not be afraid’ (Mt 28:5). And we, together with Peter, ‘cast all our anxieties onto you, for you care about us’ (cf. 1Pet 5:7).” READ MORE

Sun God Worship Of Catholics And Symbolism

An interesting homemade video on the Vatican and the Sun God and its sun god symbolism.

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Mystery of Iniquity | The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop

Alexander Hislop (1807 – 13 March 1865) was a Free Church of Scotland minister known for his criticisms of the Roman Catholic Church. We highly recommend you read his excellent book “The Two Babylons”, one of the best exposes of the Roman Catholic church ever written. Here below is a sample of that book.
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Rick Warren: Enemy Of The Christian Church

Rick Warren is seen slyly referring to Pope Francis as “our pope”, and then going on to brag about what a great job he is doing. He wants you to blithely assume that of course Pope Francis is the “spiritual head” over all of Christianity and not simply over the Roman Catholic corporation. He slips it in like that’s what everyone already thinks and believes. This is nothing more than mental conditioning. A bible believing Christian under no circumstances ever would acknowledge that any pope in the Roman system had any sort of rule over them of any kind.
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Now The End Begins is your front line defense against the rising tide of darkness in the last days before the Rapture of the Church

 https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-alone-in-st-peters-basilica-lifts-up-monstrance-of-the-sun-god-and-calls-on-intercession-of-mary-to-save-world-from-covid-19/


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on October 21, 2020, 07:39:49 pm
Pope endorses same-sex civil unions...
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-calls-for-civil-union-law-for-same-sex-couples-in-shift-from-vatican-stance-12462


'Homosexuals have right to be part of family'...
https://apnews.com/article/pope-endorse-same-sex-civil-unions-eb3509b30ebac35e91aa7cbda2013de2


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on November 22, 2020, 08:40:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKxB0nU2EUU


Title: Re: Peter the Roman conspiracy
Post by: Mark on December 18, 2023, 04:09:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry9jFzlDdrM