Title: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Christian40 on June 02, 2012, 01:15:55 am http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/hillsong_music_cult.htm
i read this and it was pretty clear. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on June 02, 2012, 05:38:15 am i have no idea who they are. :D
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Christian40 on June 03, 2012, 12:31:04 am They are a popular Contemporary Christian Band that has been pretty "successful". The Charismatics/Pentecostals love this sort of music. There are many Contemporary Christian Bands out there.
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 03, 2012, 06:16:59 pm They are a popular Contemporary Christian Band that has been pretty "successful". The Charismatics/Pentecostals love this sort of music. There are many Contemporary Christian Bands out there. Looks like these "contemporary christian" bands are invading the vacation bible schools, christian summer camps, etc this summer. At least in my neck of the woods, they are heavily advertising them. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Christian40 on June 04, 2012, 01:30:02 am Catholics Love CCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq1Yi6wQUrA&feature=plcp Why do Catholics love "Christian" rock, and yet HATE gospel tracts? Why are some of the biggest "Christian" rock musicians loved and praised by Catholics, while street-preaching, Bible-believing Christians are attacked and accused of "hate speech"? Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 04, 2012, 07:37:27 am I didn't know that...thank you for posting this! :)
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on June 04, 2012, 08:15:21 am No surprise there, i beleive on the old forum i posted some info of how the FISH radio stations were in league with Rome.
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Boldhunter on September 12, 2012, 04:24:06 am I am always grieved in my heart when I see these What We Believe Statements with all the "basic" elements of how we receive salvation by simply "believing" in Jesus -- but the BLOOD SHED ON THE CROSS for REMISSION of sin is left out. Makes it pretty clear this is what demonic powers quake at. Those in the Tribulation overcome by the Blood of the Lamb!
Matthew 26:28 KJV For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Romans 3:23-25 KJV For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Colossians 1:12-14 KJV Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Hebrews 10:14-19 KJV For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, Ephesians 1:7 KJV In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Hebrews 10:29 KJV Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Christian40 on September 13, 2012, 01:24:47 am Good verses.
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on September 13, 2012, 07:59:35 am Zschech, Darlene, and Hillsong
Darlene Zschech (pronounced check) is a prominent voice in the Contemporary Worship movement. For 25 years she was “worship pastor” at Hills Christian Life Centre, Sydney, Australia, and has published many popular worship albums under the Hillsong Music label. She is also associated with Integrity Music and the Hosanna label. In 2010, Darlene and her husband became the senior pastors of Hope Unlimited Church, another Pentecostal church in Australia, but she continues to be involved in music projects with Hillsong. The co-pastors of Hills Christian Life Centre, under whom Zschech ministered, are Brian Houston and his wife, Bobbie. The church features a large rock band with five back-up singers and a Word-Faith prosperity message. In 2002, the church took in $10 million in tithes alone, not to speak of the sale of music and materials. Brian Houston’s book “You Need More Money” teaches the way to prosperity through giving and “kingdom living.” Houston says, “If you believe in Jesus, He will reward you here as well [as in Heaven]” (“The Lord's Profits,” Sydney Morning Herald, January 30, 2003). His wife and co-pastor Bobbie published a tape set entitled “Kingdom Women Love Sex,” which doubtless was a top seller. (When I inquired about it at the Hills Christian Life Centre bookstore in October 2004, I learned that the name had been changed to “Kingdom Women Love & Value Their Sexuality.”) When asked by a Sydney Morning Herald reporter why the church is so successful, Brian Houston replied, “We are scratching people where they are itching” (“The Lord's Profits,” Sydney Morning Herald, January 30, 2003). That is right out of 2 Timothy 4:3, which is a warning of apostasy. It describes people who itch for a new kind of Christianity and heaps of preachers who will scratch this illicit itch. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.” Zschech’s song “Shout to the Lord” is used widely in contemporary worship circles. The album by that title remained No. 1 on “praise and worship charts” for over 30 weeks. It won Song of the Year at the Dove Awards in 1998. It has been estimated that it is sung by 30 million Christians around the world, and it has been sung even at fundamental Baptist churches. One of Zschech’s themes is the importance of ecumenical unity. For example, she makes the following comment about the album “You Shine”: “There is a new sound and a new song being proclaimed across the earth. It’s the sound of a unified church, coming together, in one voice to magnify our magnificent Lord” (from the album cover). She gives no warning about the fact that vast numbers of churches are apostate and that the Bible says that unity apart from doctrinal purity is wrong. The New Testament warns repeatedly that the end of the church age will be characterized by apostasy and spiritual confusion rather than faithfulness to the truth (i.e. Mat. 24:3-4, 11, 24; 1 Tim. 4:1-5; 2 Tim. 3:13; 4:3-4; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 3-4). That is precisely what we see when we look at Christianity today. Yet, the authors of contemporary praise music typically give no warning about apostasy. In an interview with Christian Leader magazine, March- April 2002, Zschech said she had a vision about the importance of unity: Q. What do you envision for the future of the contemporary worship movement? Zschech: You know, I had this vision a few years ago of how God saw the worshippers and worship leaders, linked arm and arm – the “musos,” the production personnel and everybody that is involved in the worship of God. There were no celebrities out in front. We were all together in the line just walking together. It was how I imagined God’s heart for what we are doing. We were all in line, and we were slow, but we were all walking around and we weren’t leaving anyone behind. We were taking everyone with us. But then I saw a picture of what it is like now, and although we were arm in arm, there was a struggle going on. People were running forward in pride while others were shrinking back out of insecurity. There was very little movement because of disunity. I think that means we’ve got to become strong people so that we can stand strong together. God says he will bless us, and when God says “blessing” it’s an out-ofcontrol blessing, but that only comes when we are bound together. This is a vision of her own heart, because it is contrary to the Scriptures. The New Testament nowhere says that God’s blessing is out of control or that it only comes when professing Christians are “bound together.” To the contrary, the Bible says God’s blessing is always under control, always orderly, never confused. “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints” (1 Cor. 14:33). “Let all things be done decently and in order” (1 Cor. 14:39). Paul instructed Timothy to allow “no other doctrine” (1 Tim. 1:3). That is an extremely “narrow” and very strict approach to doctrinal purity, but it is the Word of God and we are to follow it until Christ returns. This strict biblical attitude about doctrine is 180 degrees contrary to the philosophy of the movers and shakers of the contemporary praise movement. They teach that the Holy Spirit cannot be “put in a box,” meaning we cannot be sure how He will act and that He might create disorder and confusion. They teach, in practice, that doctrine is less important than unity. They teach that women can be leaders. These things are in open and direct rebellion to God’s Word. Zschech participated in Harvest ’03 in Newcastle, NSW. The ecumenical rock concert, which featured U.S.-based evangelist Greg Laurie of Harvest Ministries, brought together a hodgepodge of churches, including Presbyterian, Assemblies of God, Anglican, Seventh-day Adventist, Church of Christ, and Roman Catholic (“Hunter Harvest -- Rock Evangelism,” http://members.ozemail.com.au/ ~rseaborn/rock_evangelism.html). A participating Assemblies of God pastor stated, “THE BRIDGE BUILDING GOING ON BETWEEN CHURCHES HAS BEEN AWESOME.” In reality, it was spiritual confusion and gross disobedience to the Holy Scriptures (i.e., Mat. 7:15; Rom. 16:17; 2 Cor. 6:14-18; 2 Tim. 2:16-17; 3:5; 4:3-4; etc.). The Word of God commands us to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3), yet the aforementioned denominations hold dozens of heretical doctrines that are contrary to that faith, including the false gospels of baptismal regeneration and sacramentalism, both of which are under God’s curse in Galatians 1. In a 2004 interview with Christianity Today, Zschech expressed her radical ecumenical philosophy: “I’ve been in the Catholic Church, in the United Church, the Anglican Church, and in many other churches, and when worship is offered in truth, this sound emerges-regardless of the style. It’s the sound of the human heart connecting with its Maker” (quoted by Michael Herman, “Zschech, Please,” christianitytoday.com, June 4, 2004). She doesn’t explain how worship can be “in truth” in the context of an ecumenical unity among denominations that teach doctrinal error. Zschech and Hillsong performed for the Roman Catholic World Youth Day in Sydney on July 18, 2008. Pope Benedict XVI was present and conducted a papal mass on the last day of the extravaganza. The mass is a supposed continuation of Christ’s sacrifice. The consecrated host is said by Rome to become Christ Himself and is worshiped as such when placed in the monstrance and eventually in its own little tabernacle. Hillsong, led by Darlene Zschech, performed after the Stations of the Cross. The 14 Stations allegedly depict Christ’s trial and crucifixion; but--beyond the fact that this is not faith but sight and the pictures of Jesus are fictional and are forbidden by Scripture--several of the Stations are purely legendary. Jesus supposedly falls down three times, meets Mary on the way to the cross, has His face wiped by a woman named Veronica, and is taken down from the cross and laid in Mary’s arms. None of this is supported by Scripture. The pope promised a plenary indulgence to anyone who participated in World Youth Day. This is the forgiveness of the temporal penalty (referring to a penalty owed either on earth or in purgatory) due for certain sins. It is the same vile heresy that Martin Luther protested 500 years ago. Phil Dooley, youth leader at Hillsong, had only positive comments when interviewed in regard to the Catholic World Youth Day. Dooley was interviewed by The World Today, a news program aired daily on the Australian Broadcasting Network, when it was announced that the pope was scheduled to attend the event. Dooley said: “I think anything that is encouraging young people in their spirituality, and I suppose putting Jesus up there in our state and in our city is a positive thing. Look, I think just generally in church life you’ve got to be relevant to each generation, and I think any church is understanding that if we want to … if our message is going to be accepted by the new generation then we’ve got to relate to them in a way that they understand” (“Catholic Youth to Congregate in Sydney for 2008 Festival,” The World Today, Aug. 22, 2005). It is unconscionable to have such an opportunity and not use it to warn that the Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel. John warned: “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds” (2 John 10-11). To pretend that the Roman Catholic Church’s “spirituality” is acceptable before God and that its Jesus is the Jesus of the Bible is to be partaker of its evil deeds. There is also the false Pentecostal latter rain theology in some of the Hillsong music. “I believe the promise about the visions and the dreams/ That the Holy Spirit will be poured out/ And His power will be seen/ Well the time is now/ The place is here/ And His people have come in faith/ There’s a mighty sound/ And a touch of fire/ When we’ve gathered in one place” (“I Believe the Presence” from Shout to the Lord). The lyrics to Zschech’s “Holy Spirit Rain Down” begin: “Holy Spirit, rain down, rain down/ Oh, Comforter and Friend/ How we need Your touch again/ Holy Spirit, rain down, rain down.” Where in Scripture are we instructed to pray to the Holy Spirit? To the contrary, the Lord Jesus Christ taught us to pray to the Father (Mat. 6:9). The charismatic movement is not in submission to the Word of God and does not care one way or the other that there is no Scriptural support for this type of prayer. In an interview with CCM.com in October 2003 (“20 Things You Probably Don’t Know about Darlene Zschech” by Christa Farris), Zschech said that she is “a bit of a hippie at heart” and described herself as “hopelessly devoted” to rock star Olivia Newton-John. She said that her favorite movie is “anything with Julia Roberts in it.” (Roberts became a super star by playing the role of a prostitute in “Pretty Woman.”) Zschech said the three people she would most like to meet are Billy Graham, Bono of the rock band U2, and Mother Teresa. She said that her teenage daughter’s favorite music includes the secular rock band Coldplay. The band’s song “We Never Change” has the lyrics “Oh I don't have a soul to save, Yes, and I sin every single day...” In one of her books Zschech said: “I once watched Sting in concert (he was absolutely incredible!). So much gift for one human being! Thoughts raced through my head, ‘My goodness, Sting, you are like king David, full of psalms, melodies and music, and you sing as if you don’t even know that His hand is upon you. You are so close to the heart of God. You are a master poet, full of love, and your capabilities are not because of your own natural abilities, you have tapped into the source of your Creator’” (Zschech, The Kiss of Heaven, 2003). To liken a filthy rock singer to the “sweet Psalmist of Israel” or to say that a rock singer has tapped into the source of his Creator is pure nonsense. The Bible says the devil is the god of this world and the unsaved walk not according to the God of the Bible but “according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience” (Eph. 2:2). Instead of telling her readers that she went to a String concert and loved it and leaving them with the idea that it is fine for a born again child of God to attend filthy rock concerts, she should have repented and apologized for disobeying God’s Word, which says, “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them” (Eph. 5:11). This is yet another example of what we have often warned about, that Contemporary Christian Music is a bridge to the world. My friends, contemporary praise music does not exist in a spiritual vacuum. These are days of great spiritual deception and apostasy, and central to that apostasy is the charismatic movement. Its visions are false; its prophecies fail; its healings can only on the rarest of occasions be authenticated; its doctrine is corrupt; its practice is confusion and disorder. It is one of the major elements of the ecumenical movement of these apostate end times. Through mysticism and sensual music it aligns Roman Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, and Pentecostals in an unholy union of truth and error. Fundamental Baptists and Bible-believing churches that use charismatic contemporary praise music will find that this music brings with it a philosophy that will soon change the character of any fundamentalist church. We need to worship the Lord God in spirit and in truth continually, but we do not need the unscriptural contemporary worship movement as our guide. We do not doubt that Darlene Zschech is sincere in her work or that she truly desires to worship God, but she and her fellow charismatic praise leaders simply do not know what they are doing. They are the blind leading the blind. From the free online book: I do recommend this book Directory of Contemporary Worship Musicians by David W. Cloud ISBN 978-1-58318-131-7. This directory contains information on influential contemporary worship musicians who are creating the music that is being used ever more frequently by fundamentalist and very conservative evangelical churches. All of them are radically ecumenical and the vast majority are charismatic in theology. To our knowledge, not one of them takes a clear stand against end-time apostasy. All are enemies of a separatist Biblicist stance. Contemporary worship music is a dangerous bridge both to the world and to the "broader church" with all of its ancient and end-time heresies, and the Directory of Contemporary Praise Musicians contains more documentation of this than has ever before been gathered into one volume, to our knowledge. The Directory documents the history of contemporary praise music from its inception in the Jesus People movement and its intimate association with the charismatic movement in general as well as with its most radical aspect, the "latter rain apostolic miracle revival." (See, for example, the following reports in the Directory: "Calvary Chapel," "Lindell Cooley," "Tim Hughes," "Integrity Music," "Kevin Prosch," "David Ruis," "Michael W. Smith," "John Talbot," and "John Wimber.") The documentation contained in the Directory proves that Contemporary Christian Music is a jungle of end-time apostasy and that it is controlled by "another spirit" (2 Cor. 11:4). The music itself feeds the charismatic-ecumenical mystical experience. The sensual pulsing, skipping, tripping, body-jerking syncopated dance rhythms, the electronic modulation, the reverb and echo and feedback, the unresolving chord sequences, the pounding drums, the sensual vocal styles, the dramatic rise and fall of the sound level, and the repetition create an atmosphere in which charismatic seekers experience an emotional high, are hypnotized to receive an unscriptural message, and are prepared for "signs and wonders" phenomena. Whatever is operating in the charismatic-ecumenical movement, it is definitely "another spirit" (2 Corinthians 11:4) when tested Scripturally, and contemporary praise music is that spirit's vehicle. Downloads: PDF http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Directory_of_Contemporary_Worship_Musicians.pdf MOBI http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Directory_of_Contemporary_Worship_Musicians.mobi ePUB http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Directory_of_Contemporary_Worship_Musicians.epub Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 13, 2012, 10:32:38 am ^^
Been reading about this in Cloud's e-books recently - yeah, CCM has been really subtle. It's not like they started out with this loud heavy metal, in your face kind of stuff. They would start out with something that "seems harmless"(ie-"soft" rock), and would end up getting a rather positive reaction from the pews b/c of just that, and right under everyone's noses, would end up getting worse from there. There's just no discernment in the pews today concerning this - at my church, most of the pews seem to be older folks. However, both of the youth ministers are under 30, and have brought in this CCM stuff. One time they played a demo of a preview of Vacation Bible School to everyone during the Sunday service, and 90-95% of the pews just reacted with INDIFFERENCE(including the pastor). No, it wasn't like they had this "We don't like it, but we have to bear with it" attitude either. They just looked at it and reacted "Whatever...". And this seems to be interconnected b/w the Roman Catholic Church, Charismatic Pentacostals, New Age Movement, secular rock music, etc. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Boldhunter on September 13, 2012, 01:27:21 pm The church has been literally lulled to sleep and hammered with secular thought to where they are TOLERANT. That's EXACTLY how all the people were lured into Rick Warren's coven. He had about 15 "tents" (made of metal Jewish-style ) and you could "worship" to any style music for the first 30 to 45 mins before Rick was piped into your "tent" for his blinding "sermon." No kidding - there was heavy metal, rave, country, rap - every worldly thing - including dancing (and NOT LIKE KING DAVID's heart was!)
It is clear - the Apostasy is going to use INTOLERANCE to now equate HATE - which will be punishable by their "cleansing" new laws. The LORD Jesus help the people who realize the door has been shut!!!!!! Have mercy dear Father! Wake them up. Just one more note - the MTV Music Awards - just watch (after THOROUGH warfare/covering with the blood of Jesus) and you WILL SEE AND HEAR that the MAN OF PERDITION is HERALDING HIS REIN. Even the messages in EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL are IN YOUR FACE - mocking the NEEDS every man on earth is now going to have and the FEAR that is coming to CONTROL them. Every sponsor is CLEARLY of evil. I hope everyone will educate themselves about Mr. **** of PROCTOR AND **** and his part in all the funding of the entertainers and poison products. Father SEND JESUS to us QUICKLY!! Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 13, 2012, 06:45:12 pm ^^
When I first read his Purpose Driven Life a few years ago, I had no idea he was a false prophet. However, having read alot of books on Obsessive Compulsive Disorder by secular psychologists and psychiatrists, couldn't tell you how many times I was like "Now where did I read that before?" while reading through PDL. Yeah, numerous times it felt like Warren embraced Carl Jungian philosophies alot like the typical psychologist would put at the forefront. But again, I didn't think much of it the time although I found it odd. But OTOH, I wasn't grounded well in scripture as I was putting books by authors in the forefront. Yeah, I believe it was this forum when I first learned about the deceptions of CCM/Christian Rock(or it may have been another end times forum a few months prior). Not once have I ever heard any pastor, sunday school teacher, deacon, etc at any church call out its wickedness, or even say 1-2 words about it. Pretty much they all thought Michael W. Smith, Amy Grant, et al were true to the blue men/women of God. Yes, something like this can affect you spiritually, BIG TIME. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Boldhunter on September 15, 2012, 04:42:30 am May the Lord Jesus continue to strenghen each member of the body of His Church and give us wisdom against every while of the devils works - in the name of Jesus!
God bless you all who share here :) Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 14, 2013, 07:24:49 pm Despite some NIV verses thrown in, this is a MUST READ!
HELLSONG — The Music of Hillsong – In Praise of Folly http://coercioncode.com/hellsong-the-music-of-hillsong-in-praise-of-folly/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on December 17, 2013, 08:51:51 am Hillsong
See “Darlene Zschech.” Homosexuality and CCM In the Gospel Sound, which &rst appeared in 1971, Anthony Heilbut said, “ The gospel church has long been a refuge for gays and lesbians, some of whom grew up to be among the greatest singers and musicians.” Douglas Harrison, a homosexual who grew up Southern Baptist, said, “... you can’t swing a Dove Award without hitting upon evidence of the longstanding, deep-set presence of queer experience in, and its influence on, Christian music culture at all levels” (“Come Out from among Them,” Religion Dispatches, April 30, 2010). In 1998, CCM st ar Kirk Franklin said that “homosexuality ... is a problem today in gospel music--a MAJOR CONCERN--and everybody knows it” (Church Boy, pp. 49, 50). James Cleveland, who has been called the “King of Gospel,” was a homosexual who died of AIDS. Other homosexual CCM artists are Anthony Williams, Marshal Stevens, Kirk Talley, Clay Aiken, Ray Boltz, and Jennifer Knapp. In June 2013 Sandi Patty is scheduled to performed with the homosexual Turtle Creek Chorale at the Meyerson Symphony Center in Dallas, Texas. In July 2012 the Chorale attended the Gay and Lesbian Association of Choruses (GALA) in Denver (“Turtle Creek Chorale’s 2012-2013 Season,” Turtlecreek.org). The reason for this is not difficult to discern. Typically, CCM musicians have been accepted as Christians upon the flimsiest testimony of faith and have not been properly taught and discipled. They have fed their spiritual lives with a constant diet of sensual music and have sought after emotional highs and “signs and wonders” instead of living by faith. They have played with the world, which is more dangerous than any poisonous snake, instead of living separated lives. Quote From the free online book: I do recommend this book Directory of Contemporary Worship Musicians by David W. Cloud ISBN 978-1-58318-131-7. This directory contains information on influential contemporary worship musicians who are creating the music that is being used ever more frequently by fundamentalist and very conservative evangelical churches. All of them are radically ecumenical and the vast majority are charismatic in theology. To our knowledge, not one of them takes a clear stand against end-time apostasy. All are enemies of a separatist Biblicist stance. Contemporary worship music is a dangerous bridge both to the world and to the "broader church" with all of its ancient and end-time heresies, and the Directory of Contemporary Praise Musicians contains more documentation of this than has ever before been gathered into one volume, to our knowledge. The Directory documents the history of contemporary praise music from its inception in the Jesus People movement and its intimate association with the charismatic movement in general as well as with its most radical aspect, the "latter rain apostolic miracle revival." (See, for example, the following reports in the Directory: "Calvary Chapel," "Lindell Cooley," "Tim Hughes," "Integrity Music," "Kevin Prosch," "David Ruis," "Michael W. Smith," "John Talbot," and "John Wimber.") The documentation contained in the Directory proves that Contemporary Christian Music is a jungle of end-time apostasy and that it is controlled by "another spirit" (2 Cor. 11:4). The music itself feeds the charismatic-ecumenical mystical experience. The sensual pulsing, skipping, tripping, body-jerking syncopated dance rhythms, the electronic modulation, the reverb and echo and feedback, the unresolving chord sequences, the pounding drums, the sensual vocal styles, the dramatic rise and fall of the sound level, and the repetition create an atmosphere in which charismatic seekers experience an emotional high, are hypnotized to receive an unscriptural message, and are prepared for "signs and wonders" phenomena. Whatever is operating in the charismatic-ecumenical movement, it is definitely "another spirit" (2 Corinthians 11:4) when tested Scripturally, and contemporary praise music is that spirit's vehicle. Downloads: PDF http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Directory_of_Contemporary_Worship_Musicians.pdf MOBI http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Directory_of_Contemporary_Worship_Musicians.mobi ePUB http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Directory_of_Contemporary_Worship_Musicians.epub Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 17, 2013, 09:04:44 am And a lot of this heavy metal CCM is being put in these Vacation Bible School materials - videos on YT have shown how kids just started acting hyper when they heard this stuff.
Personally(and I'm sure it's that way with you all here as well) - it really vexes me when I'm in a church building setting, and when they play this CCM stuff, almost no one in the pews do anything. No, they're not being "enduring" or "patient", per se - they just are INDIFFERENT and lack discernment. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Christian40 on December 19, 2013, 12:09:40 am Quote Their stated mission is to “empower a generation to win a generation”. They may have produced some songs of intensity, and dedication over their short history to bring to a new group of young people a glimpse of God. They may have begun in sincerity, and with a zeal for God, but in the last few years they have quickly pushed through all plausible barriers of legitimate Christian worship, and have the rest of the church careering down a cliff of musical genres – hard rock, heavy rock, metal, thrashing Guitars, and club mix. They have become a mild softer version of Stryper. This group of young people have produced their own personal Jesus. The methodology of the modern Church, has raised up a new breed of demigods, young people still caught up in the idolatries of the media, and music worlds, who have come from obscurity into stardom, on the back of today’s Christian music. Gone are the days of not putting novices in places of leadership and responsibility. A young convert no longer wants to follow Christ, “The cross before me, the world behind me”, but coverts the place of the Christian Rock Star Planetshakers recent songs, “Jump around”, “Get Up”, and “Dance now”, “Boom” have all the hallmarks of Bon Jovi, Metallica, Guns ‘n Roses, AC/DC, and Nirvana, the modern equivalent of groups – We are Kings, Friday Night Boys, and The Downtown Fiction, all Pop Punk, Alternative Rock, and Power Pop bands .Their performances are now fully fledged concerts with all the equipment – LED panels, Light show, smoke, and guitars, amps, keyboard, and drums. These stage sets cost thousands of dollars. http://coercioncode.com/hellsong-the-music-of-hillsong-in-praise-of-folly/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 19, 2013, 12:15:53 am Quote Their stated mission is to “empower a generation to win a generation”. Pretty much the same agenda when they started this whole Sunday School movement in the 1800's toward the youth. Now it seems like even the adults/elderly have no qualms with this CCM nonsense - some of the comments I hear from them is, "But we have to be sensitive and show empathy toward them b/c they grew up with this music", etc, etc. Uhm...I don't recall either Jesus Christ nor the Apostles "being sensitive" toward the Pharisees and harlots in scripture. 1Cor 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Kilika on December 19, 2013, 02:58:30 am Yeah, the thing they miss is that scripture tells us about not keeping company with fornicators, etc of course, but that's limited, as it says "then must ye needs go out of the world". The real separation is from those who claim to be brethren and are still acting up not being Christian. THOSE people we really need to separate from.
As it says, "...if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator...with such an one no not to eat". Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on December 20, 2013, 02:03:27 pm No surprise there, i beleive on the old forum i posted some info of how the FISH radio stations were in league with Rome. funny how i keep looking for that post. :D Journey of a Lifetime Rome (http://www.955thefish.com/Pics/events/2013/JourneyRome/JourneyLifetimeRome-575.jpg) (http://www.955thefish.com/Pics/events/2013/JourneyRome/WalshU.jpg) Journey with Brooke and her husband for an inclusive Roman holiday that includes airfare from Cleveland, 4 and 5-star hotels near St. Peter's Square, two meals a day, passes, transfers and tickets to museums, and guided tours. The trip also includes Florence, Venice, Assisi, and Tuscany. The summit of the trip will be the opportunity to be on-hand for the rare opportunity to witness a canonization with thousands of fellow pilgrims from hundreds of faith traditions from around the world. This is truly a once in a lifetime opportunity! Space is limited. This trip is recommended for experienced travelers. Canonization of Pope John Paul II and Pope John Paul XXIII - APRIL 27, 2012 think thats a misprint, should be 2014 :D APRIL 20 – 29, 2014 TOTAL AIR & LAND PACKAGE: $3400-pp ( DBL ) SINGLE SUPPL: $700-pp / TRAVEL INSURANCE; $179-pp Day 1 ~ April 20: Departure from Cleveland, OH to Rome. Day 2 ~ April 21: Arrival. Check in- the Hotel in Florence. Dinner and overnight in Florence Day 3 ~ April 22: Visit Assisi. See the tombs of St. Francis and St. Clare; enjoy a peaceful walk on the streets of Assisi. Dinner in Tuscany. Overnight in Florence. Day 4 ~ April 23: Tour of Venice: an amazing city built on water. Leave for Venice in the morning on our private bus. Estimated time of arrival is 12:00 noon. Visit St. Mark's plaza. Optional: Gondola ride and shopping. Dinner in Tuscany at a local restaurant. Red and white wine included. Back to hotel 10:00 pm. Long pants if you intend to go inside St. Mark's. Casual dress if you intend to go on a Gondola ride or spend time shopping and visiting the beautiful streets and bridges of Venice. Dinner in Florence, red and white wine included. Overnight in Florence. Day 5 ~ April 24: Tour of Florence in the region of Tuscany. Tour of the Ponte Vecchio, Piazza della Signoria, the Uffizzi, Michelangelo's masterpiece, The David, Flea Market, Duomo (Cathedral), and the Baptistery. Tour Guide will show to those interested the location of the Basilica of San Lorenzo and the Medici Chapel (where the Medici family was buried), and Basilica della Santa Croce (where Michelangelo and 15 other glorious Italian artists and thinkers were buried). Dinner in Florence. Red and white wine included. Casual dress throughout the day. Overnight in Florence. Day 6 ~ April 25: Drive to Rome. Visit the Basilica of St. Paul outside the Wall where the body of St. Paul is buried. It is the 2nd largest basilica in Rome and the 5th in the world. Check in the hotel and rest for a few hours if time permits. In the afternoon, we will be visiting St. Mary Major, the main Basilica dedicated to Mary in Rome. We will see the remains of Jesus' manger, the tomb of Bernini, the remains of St. Matthew the Evangelist, the tomb of St. Jerome, and the oldest icon in the world of the Virgin Mary painted by St. Luke: the famous Salus Populi Romani. We may immerse ourselves in the local culture by attending an Italian mass at St. Mary Major as well. Casual dress. Dinner and overnight in Rome. Day 7 ~ April 26: Start the day around 9:30 am, by visiting St. Peter's in the Vatican, the largest Basilica in the world. There will be time for private devotion and shopping before lunch. In the afternoon we will see the Vatican Museums, and the Sistine Chapel (the Pope's private Chapel). Long pants, capris, or skirts below the knee, shoulders covered. Time to rest before dinner in the area of the hotel. Red and white wine included. Overnight in Rome. Day 8 ~ April 27: Day of the Canonization. Free afternoon and evening. Dinner en route to Florence. Red and white wine included. Overnight in Rome Day 9 ~ April 28: Start around 9:00am. Visit the Colosseum, the symbol of the city of Rome; a great building that has been standing since 80 A.D. Then visit St. John Lateran, the first Basilica ever to be built in the Roman Empire. In the afternoon, go to the breathtaking Catacombs where 500,000 people were buried. After the Catacombs our private bus will take us to the charming Castel Gandolfo where the Pope's Summer Residence is located. Awesome place with its spectacular Lake Albano, just like those towns you see on TV. Wine tasting and dinner at 6:00 pm at a local upscale restaurant: eat where the Italians eat. Several courses of delicious Italian food. Red and white wine included. Back at the hotel around 9:00 pm. Overnight in Rome. Day 10 ~ April 29: Our private bus brings us to the airport in Rome to fly home. Please note: We do our best to ensure that all sites listed in this itinerary will be seen. However, due to scheduling conflicts, or other circumstances beyond our control, sites may be visited on a different day than listed. If this happens it will also necessitate a change in the restaurant for dinner. However, we will never sacrifice the quality of the meal, all restaurants will meet Proximo Travel's very high standards. Since we have several different trip configurations touring at the same time, it is likely that groups on different tours will be combined when their itineraries overlap in certain areas. http://www.955thefish.com/journeyofalifetimerome.aspx Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on March 19, 2014, 10:06:27 am Brian Houston: “the Muslim and you, we actually serve the same God”
Hillsong is famous all around the Christian world for their worship music. But what god does Hillsong worship? What god do they serve? Does your church sing Hillsong music? Do you find the songs generally vague and lacking scriptural substance in contrast to hymns? Well brace yourself. Brian Houston believes that Christians and Muslims serve the same God. Watch him say it yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=frnSIOhlobQ “How do you view God? In a desert there’s two types of birds: there’s vultures and there’s hummingbirds. One lives off dead carcasses, rotting meat. The other lives off the beautiful, sweet nectar in a particular flower on a particular desert plant. In the same desert, they both find what they’re looking for. Do you know – take it all the way back into the Old Testament and the Muslim and you, we actually serve the same God. Allah to a Muslim, to us Abba Father God. And of course through history, those views have changed greatly. But lets make sure that we view God through the eyes of Jesus, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the beauty of a Saviour, the loving open inclusive arms of a loving God. And that way we’ll lead out of that and you’ll be purposeful about your leadership and you’ll draw people just like the Lord Jesus always does through the power of the Holy Spirit.” Source: Brian Houston, Hillsong TV // Living For The Master’s Well Done, Pt1 with Brian Houston: 11:52, Sermon: Living For The Master’s Well Done, YouTube, Pt1, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVE2j_aeZ8M, Published on Jan 5, 2014. (Accessed 17/03/2014.) REST: http://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2014/03/17/brian-houston-the-muslim-and-you-we-actually-serve-the-same-god/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 19, 2014, 01:14:18 pm FYI - the seeds for this "Christians and Muslims worship the same god" have been planted for quite some time now(since maybe the 80's or 90's) - while pastors and other "Christian" leaders didn't say it explicitly, they would have this woeful misunderstanding of that passage in Genesis b/w Isaac and Ishmael...thinking b/c both were the sons of Abraham(this part is true, of course), and somehow Ishmael is tied to Islam b/c of this...
Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. So therefore Christianity and Islam is somehow under the same umbrella. And let's not forget too how the Apostate church embraces replacement theology(which has lead to this too). So ultimately, no marvel that in our present day, we see these wicked Emergent Church leaders and CCM people explicitly declaring this. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on March 30, 2014, 07:25:47 pm Hillsong United Church Steeped In Illuminati And New Age Symbolism
Exposing the Devil’s counterfeit church “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Ephesian 5:11 Everywhere you look today in the entertainment industry, you see signs and symbols belong to the New Age movement and the Illuminati. Some of the most-influential and best-selling recording artists like Jay-Z, Beyonce, Lady Gaga and others promote a constant push of Illuminati and Satanic symbols. The 2014 Grammy Awards Show displayed open witchcraft. Now this is becoming apparent within the walls of the professing Christian church as well. Hillsong United Church, located in Australia, cranks out a rock-n-roll show on a par with anything the world has other offer. They feature Heavy Metal crunching guitar riffs, fantastic explosions of light and sound like you were at a Lady Gaga concert, and proudly displayed center stage is the Illuminati pyramid that Beyonce is so fond of. When asked about the use of this major Illuminati symbol, they said that they were “inspired by Mount Zion” in the bible. Yeah, right. (http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hillsong-united-illuminati-pyramids-new-age-chrislam-e1396103674675.jpg) The bible calls us to be separate, not be not like the world but to be like Jesus Christ. Hillsong has millions of fans and follower all over the world, not because they preach the Gospel, but because they offer up Satan’s counterfeit of what the Church of Jesus Christ is supposed to be all about. Look at this video clip of one of their concert “church services”, and you tell me where you see Jesus in any of that unholy mess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YX1S87nVzck The doctrine preached at Hillsong is not the doctrine of the bible, and if you are a Christian saved by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, you should have no part of these workers of darkness. (http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hillsong-united-illuminati-pyramids-new-age-chrislam-laodicea-brian-pastor-e1396104579738.jpg) Hillsong United is part of the demonic Emergent Church Movement, and it is deadly spiritual poison wrapped in the candy-coated wrapper of the world’s entertainment. links and stuff: http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=17836 Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on March 31, 2014, 06:03:24 pm Yeah, pretty much if you walk into any church building today - at bare minimum, you'll see occult symbols on their Sunday morning programs - pretty much the secretaries put them there(so it's not like they're luciferians themselves). But nonetheless it just shows how deeply infiltrated these Babel church buildings are.
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on May 16, 2014, 06:10:52 am Hillsong Takes Over Times Square with Jesus Message
Last month, instead of news reports, ads or market results, the digital screens in New York City’s Times Square were taken over by the words “Jesus” and “No Other Name.” The videos were part of a promotion from Hillsong about their upcoming album and the church’s 2014 conference. The event kicked off on April 24 on 21 of the digital screens in Times Square. "Times Square — one of the most iconic locations on earth — is a place where so many names scream for fame," said Jay Argaet, Hillsong’s art and communications director. "The most powerful brands, biggest shows and famous celebrities ... every name wants to be the greatest! Perhaps this would be the most powerful way to remind the world his name trumps them all." About 400 Hillsong volunteers helped with the Times Square promotion. "It was shocking-in a good way-to see the name of Jesus proclaimed so brightly in the center of the world's largest, most chaotic city," NYC resident Julie McCoughy told the Gospel Herald. "It's an encouraging reminder for Christians and a great witness for unbelievers." Hillsong’s annual conference is slated for Sydney, London and New York City. The church’s album is set to release July 1. Times Square sees an average of 360,000 pedestrians daily. http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/hillsong-takes-over-times-square-with-jesus-message.html Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on June 04, 2014, 11:43:20 pm http://youtu.be/izCvJs4CYC4
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on October 14, 2014, 06:43:50 pm Hillsong Founder Denies Covering Up Father's Sex Abuse
Days ahead of an annual conference in New York’s Madison Square Garden, the founder of the Hillsong music and church empire is facing strict scrutiny for what he knew about sex abuse allegations lodged against his father. Hillsong is an Australian megachurch that has exported its influence to major global cities and into churches’ music across the U.S. In 1999, Brian Houston’s father, Frank Houston, who was also a minister, confessed to sexually abusing an underage male at his New Zealand congregation 30 years before. In response, the younger Houston, who was then president of the Assemblies of God in Australia, fired his father, took control of the church and merged it with Hillsong. The elder Houston died in 2004. On Thursday and Friday (Oct. 9-10), the son took the witness stand in Sydney and denied any attempt to cover up the allegations. Next week, Brian Houston will be in New York City for the church’s conference, at Madison Square Garden. In his testimony, Brian Houston denied trying to hide his involvement in a $10,000 compensation payment made to a man who was abused as a child by his father. “I acknowledge the courage of the victim in taking the stand today to outline the trauma he has suffered by Frank Houston,” Brian Houston said in a statement. “However I disagree with his perception of the phone call with me, and I strongly refute that I — at any time — accused him of tempting my father. I would never say this and I do not believe this. At no stage did I attempt to hide or cover up the allegations against my father.” Through what’s called a royal commission, the Australian government is scrutinizing how institutions — including the Pentecostal church network that gave birth to Hillsong – have handled sex abuse claims. A royal commission is Australia’s highest level of inquiry. Frank Houston never faced prosecution for crimes committed in the 1960s and 1970s. The Assemblies of God in Australia allowed Houston to resign quietly with a retirement package. “We believe that exposing child sexual abuse and the response of institutions to that abuse, and allowing survivors to share their traumatic experiences, is a powerful step in the healing process,” Brian Houston said in a statement. “Having to face the fact that my father engaged in such repulsive acts was — and still is — agonizing.” Hillsong congregants, based in western Sydney, gave him a standing ovation after he delivered his sermon on Sunday (Oct. 12) addressing his father’s sexual abuse. “They have done the journey with us so there’d be very few people (at Hillsong) with any surprises. I’ve never hidden it from the church,” he told Australia’s “Today” show. Brian Houston told the commission he first became aware of the abuse allegations in 1999, but learned in 2000 there were additional claims involving six boys in New Zealand. He said there may be more victims who have not yet come forward. The 30-year-old Hillsong multisite church based in the outskirts of Sydney mixes Christian rock, charismatic energy and Australian accents in shaping Christian churches in major cities across the globe. Hillsong’s ubiquitous praise songs like “Shout to the Lord” can be found in many U.S. churches on any given Sunday. More than 50,000 people attend Hillsong offshoots in London; Cape Town, South Africa; Paris; Kiev, Ukraine; Stockholm; Amsterdam; Barcelona, Spain; Copenhagen, Denmark; New York and most recently Los Angeles. Its American congregations received front-page attention in The New York Times last month. http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/hillsong-founder-denies-covering-up-father-s-sex-abuse.html Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on October 18, 2014, 08:44:08 am Brian Houston: Hillsong Won't Take Public Stand on LGBT Issues
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president Albert Mohler declared from his blog in June, "There is no third way on [same-sex issues]." But Brian Houston, pastor of Hillsong Church, a global family of congregations comprising more than 30,000 weekly attendees and millions of worship-music album sales, apparently disagrees with Mohler. At least for now. At a news conference for the Hillsong Conference in New York City Thursday, Michael Paulson of The New York Times asked Houston to clarify his church's position on same-sex marriage. But Houston would not offer a definitive answer, instead saying that it was "an ongoing conversation" among church leaders, and they were "on the journey with it." Houston says that he considers three things when evaluating the topic: "There's the world we live in, there's the weight we live with, and there's the Word we live by." He notes that the Western world is shifting its thinking on this issue, and churches are struggling to stay relevant. The weight we live in, he added, refers to a context in which LGBT young people may feel rejected or shunned by churches, often leading to depression and suicide. But when Houston began speaking about the word we live by or "what the Bible says," he refused to offer a concrete position. (Click here for the unofficial transcript of Houston's full answer.) http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2014/10/16/transcript-hillsongs-brian-houston-sex-issues/ "It would be much easier if you could feel like all of those three just easily lined up. But they don't necessarily." Houston said. "The real issues in people's lives are too important for us to just reduce it down to a 'yes' or 'no' answer in a media outlet." Carl Lentz, pastor of Hillsong's New York City location, made similar statements on CNN in June, saying Hillsong in New York City has "a lot of gay men and women" and he hopes it stays that way. But he declines to address the matter in public because, in part, Jesus never did. "Jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent," Lentz told CNN. "And I'm still waiting for someone to show me the quote where Jesus addressed it on the record in front of people. You won't find it, because He never did." Lentz's wife, Laura, chimed in: "It's not our place to tell anyone how they should live. That's their journey." No doubt Mohler and other conservative evangelicals will find such answers disconcerting if not downright dangerous to what they believe is the biblical position. If the leaders of Hillsong, one of the most influential evangelical ministry conglomerates in the world, refuse to draw lines on these issues, it could influence other churches and pastors to reconsider their own positions. And that is why this issue has become a litmus test for many on the left and right. Because in a moment when so much is at stake, a non-statement statement is, well, quite a statement. http://www.charismanews.com/world/45811-brian-houston-hillsong-won-t-take-public-stand-on-lgbt-issues Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on October 18, 2014, 10:26:55 pm Lot was a saved man(without a doubt).
However, with that being said - look how corrupted and defiled his wife and daughters were. His wife had Sodom and Gomorrah in her heart until her very death(when she looked back and turned into a pillar of salt). After the Lord rescued them, Lot's daughters got him drunk and fornicated with him. I'm NOT saying Houston is some saved man(I don't think he is) - but nonetheless look at the state of Apostate Churchianity today - parents(while some of them truely saved) are not training their children up in biblical principles(nor in the KJB for that matter too). Look how messed up pastors' children are.(ie-crossed paths with all of mine that are such) And look how many professing Christians are going out into the heathen world to find spouses. No, I'm not trying to knock on Lot - but when you think about it for a sec, he really didn't go out and do much witnessing to others, nor did he run his household well. And he chose Sodom b/c of the lust of his eyes. REMEMBER LOT'S WIFE - throughout my years in these Churchianity circles, they would overly emphasize Lot being a righteous man. That is all and good, but they would GROSSLY ignore this very warning of "Remember Lot's wife" in scripture. And come to think of it too - Lot's wife's name isn't even mentioned in scripture(while every other prophet et al's wives are). Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on January 16, 2015, 12:18:59 pm http://breakingdeception.com/hillsong-false-prophets-infestation-occult-symbols/
Hillsong False Prophets and Infestation of Occult Symbols 1/13/15 01/13/2015 – No matter what church you attend it will almost be certain that there will be some of Hillsongs music played. Hillsong has mastered at spreading their message all over the world, even by opening a branch here in the United States. Celebrities like Jay-Z, Beyonce, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez….just to name a few, all flock to this church. How is that possible? Its possible only because the church preaches for the consumption of mans carnal nature. Hillsong is nothing but a front for the Illuminati. They gather celebrities of like minded by showcasing occult symbolism in their decorations and even in their sermons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=am41xpM3Rps At the 2:00 point you will hear the speaker Carl Lentz preach from the Bible but using The Message which translates “as above, so below.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CWOEA-hEiOU Not only are they using important words in Occultism but they are also displaying images in their music. In the video below, fast forward to the 5:50 mark and you will see the pyramid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eLqTZ07ja7g How can a christian support a church like this when they know it is their duty to ring the alarm bell and leave? “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”Ephesian 5:11 Hillsong is part of a demonic movement in the church by bringing down the christian and packaging it as more of a rock concert. Expose them for who they are and have nothing to do with them. Written by Nathan of Breaking Deception Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on April 25, 2015, 11:16:14 am http://churchwatchcentral.com/2015/04/21/hillsong-the-multi-million-dollar-crazy-cult/
4/21/15 Hillsong: The multi-million dollar “crazy cult” Video news clip(15 minutes) inside link In spite of Hillsong’s continual lies, their facades of “relevancy” and their contemporary nonsensical gimmicks, the world still sees through it. The reality is this: the world is not being won over to Jesus Christ. In fact, Hillsong is giving the world an excuse to hate Christianity while Hillsong is militantly campaigning against biblical Christianity. Not only that, Hillsong is stealing Christians from other churches and taking over churches by force under the guise of “blessing” churches. It is time the media, the Australian Government and more importantly church leaders, stop calling Hillsong a church. Cults have always declared war on Christianity. Hillsong for decades have proven again and again to be a word of faith and PROSPERITY cult. When will Christianity finally say enough is enough? Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 24, 2015, 07:49:22 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywWziahEaw
Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on August 03, 2015, 04:42:29 pm Hillsong NYC Church Has An ‘Engaged’ Openly Homosexual Couple Leading The Choir
“We have a lot of gay men and women in our church and I pray we always do.” – Pastor Carl Lentz, Hillsong NYC “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” Romans 1:26,27 (KJV) Hillsong Church in New York City attracts over 7,000 energized worshippers every week. It’s pastor, Carl Lentz, has a half-shaved head, ripped jeans, is covered with tattoos and draws a celebrity audience of people like Justin Beiber and NBA star Kevin Durant. When it comes to the topic of same-sex marriage, however, their official position is shrouded in half-answers and obfuscation. But one thing is quite clear: they allow an openly and unrepentantly gay couple to lead their choir. Josh Canfield, in an interview with Playbill.com, said this in January of 2015: ” I became truthful with my church. I’m a part of Hillsong NYC. I’m one of their choir directors. I also sing on their Worship team. They’ve been amazing as well. Nothing has changed there now that I’m completely out and with Reed. He sings in the choir as well.” source As seen above, Josh Canfield and Reed Kelly, are a proudly-out homosexual couple who preach the gospel of the LGBT Agenda. They became “engaged” last year and are planning a “wedding” for sometime in 2016. They feel no conviction of any kind for the lifestyle they lead, and yet, shockingly, they are allowed to lead the worship choir during church services. Pastor Lentz, when asked about homosexuality, had this to say: “Jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent. And I’m still waiting for someone show me the quote where Jesus addressed it on the record in front of people. You won’t find it because he never did,” he said. Well, if Pastor Lentz would turn down the Marshall stacks on his platform and open his Bible, he would find exactly where Jesus condemned homosexuality. All through Matthew, Mark and Luke, Jesus preached an adherence to the Law of Moses, as we see here: “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” Matthew 5:18 (KJV) And what does that same Law that Jesus commanded be kept have to say about homosexuality? Read it for yourself, Pastor Lentz: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Leviticus 20:13 (KJV) That God is against homosexuality is a theme that is repeated three times in the New Testament as well, so even the most least-read Bible student should be able piece together what the Bible’s ultra-clear stand on homosexuality might be. But this seems to be a feat unable to be accomplished within the Hillsong theology circles. “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16 (KJV) But an inability to understand Scripture is not the problem with Hillsong Church, in New York City, in Australia, or around the world. The problem is money. The Hillsong Church global corporation is a multi-million dollar cash cow that provides an opulent lifestyle for all it’s leaders. And the millions of dollars that now flow in from parishioners would come to a grinding halt if they ever started preaching Bible truth. The only reason why thousands line up to attend their services is because there is no conviction of sin, no preaching about Biblical righteousness, no hard truths from the Scriptures. What they get is a “christian” rock concert with strobe lights and massive video displays, so that the people who were out in the clubs the night before will feel right at home. hillsong-united-illuminati-pyramids-new-age-chrislam-laodicea-brian-pastor The Illuminati pyramid topped off by what looks like a huge snake in a circle, this is what your average Hillsong United “worship service” looks like. Do YOU see Jesus anywhere in here? Personally, I believe that a true Bible church should be reaching out to the homosexual community as it would reach out to any other people group who are in need of salvation. But as a pastor, when homosexuals attend your church, you have a sacred, sworn obligation to tell them that what they are doing is a sin that needs to be repented of. Failure to do so will result in the blood of these people, spiritually, being on your hands, and you will give an account at the Judgment Seat of Christ for why you didn’t preach the truth to them when you had the opportunity to do it. Carl Lentz, are you listening? SOURCES FOR THIS ARTICLE: Josh Canfield, in an interview with Playbill.com, said this in January of 2015: ” I became truthful with my church. I’m a part of Hillsong NYC. I’m one of their choir directors. I also sing on their Worship team. They’ve been amazing as well. Nothing has changed there now that I’m completely out and with Reed. He sings in the choir as well.” http://www.playbill.com/news/article/broadway-boyfriends-of-survivor-get-engaged-on-stage-plus-video-340487/print From an article in the NEW YORK TIMES newspaper: Some of Hillsong’s churches appear to be open to gays and lesbians. Josh Canfield and Reed Kelly, a gay couple featured on the current season of “Survivor;” worship and sing in the choir at Hillsong New York; Mr. Canfield is a volunteer choir director at the church.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/megachurch-pastor-signals-shift-in-tone-on-gay-marriage.html From in interview in the Christian Post: Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz said “”We have a lot of gay men and women in our church and I pray we always do.” http://www.christianpost.com/news/jesus-never-discussed-homosexuality-publicly-says-megachurch-pastor-of-his-refusal-to-talk-openly-about-gay-marriage-120918/ http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=34483 Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Stryker27 on August 25, 2015, 10:19:25 am There's one thing that the "Jesus Is Savior" site didn't count on. While yes, there ARE false teachers... They forget that they can be forgiven too, if they were to only repent of their sin and claim God as their Lord and Savior.
And they claim that KJV is the only "authentic" and superior version. Which I find laughable. No matter the version; NKJV, NIV, ESV etc... they all mean the same thing. They're just worded differently. Sorry, but I just find this site "Jesus Is Savior" bogus. Because this site only focuses on the "sin" in people's hearts. They don't talk about redemption or how people can be saved. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Boldhunter on August 25, 2015, 05:28:14 pm Well because they are accountable as publicly calling themselves "teachers" we will see how many publicly correct their erroneous teachings and show true godly sorrow for their shipwrecking of many's faith. As for this website mentioned - I don't know what it is - so not sure why it is mentioned in this thread.
Bottom Line: The ONLY accurate words the Lord gave us are from the translation of the KJV. The only real place to find Jesus as your saviour is in there. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Stryker27 on August 25, 2015, 10:45:56 pm Well, as said any version is good. It's just differently worded. But there IS one thing I see in Darlene and Hillsong's lyrics. It is true that they don't preach that people have sinned and need of a savior. But rather they preach a watered down gospel. Which is slowly creeping up in churches. Even the most bible believing church is accepting their doctrine.
But still, I digress. If they only they would turn to God and forsake their own doing. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on December 18, 2015, 09:22:18 am http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/hillsong-church-rendition-silent-night-features-roaring-20s-flappers-nightclub-setting/
HILLSONG CHURCH RENDITION OF ‘SILENT NIGHT’ FEATURES ROARING 20’S FLAPPERS IN NIGHTCLUB SETTING A quick Google search of Hillsong Christmas songs leads you to all sorts of Laodicean goodies like nearly naked "drummer boys", and lots of songs about Santa Claus and Rudolf. Hillsong is one of the largest churches in the world for the same reason why all your kid's friends would want to eat breakfast at your house if all you ever served was donuts and coca-cola. 12/17/15 HILLSONG CHURCH IS THE PERFECT POSTER CHILD FOR WHAT THE PROPHESIED CHURCH OF LAODICEA WOULD LOOK LIKE “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” 1 John 2:15 (KJV) “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” Romans 12:2 (KJV) We have reported on the Laodicean activities of Hillsong Church for quite some time here. We have shown you how Hillsong is steeped in Illuminati and New Age symbolism, their promotion of Chrislam, and how they had for many years an openly gay “couple” leading the choir at Hillsong NYC. But when someone sent us this video today, it shows that Hillsong has reached a new low in their adoration of emulating a lost and dying world. SILENT NIGHT – HILLSONG CHURCH LONDON – HILLSONG CAROLS 2014 Because after all, it’s just not a proper celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ without Roaring 20’s flappers, rock bands, hoochie coochie dancers, laser light shows and lots and lots of leg in a nightclub setting. Happy Birthday, Jesus, hope you like it. “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.” Revelation 3:14-18 (KJV) Hillsong Church is the perfect poster child for what the prophesied church of Laodicea looks like. They rich, increased with goods, have need of nothing, and yet are amazingly unaware that they are poor, wretched, miserable and blind, leading millions astray with their pyrotechnic easy believism. A quick Google search of Hillsong Christmas songs leads you to all sorts of Laodicean goodies like nearly naked “drummer boys”, and lots of songs about Santa Claus and Rudolf. Hillsong is one of the largest churches in the world for the same reason why all your kid’s friends would want to eat breakfast at your house if all you ever served was donuts and coca-cola. They way they see it, the life-saving gospel of Jesus Christ is just a little too boring on it’s own, and needs the “lights, camera, action!” of the world to “make it sell”. It’s the perfect Sunday morning “church service” experience for people who have spent Saturday night partying it up in the clubs. Drink up, Hillsong, Jesus is coming, and you won’t be dancing when you see Him. “And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:” Revelation 1:17 (KJV) Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on April 16, 2016, 08:11:35 pm HILLSONG 2016 WOMEN’S COLOUR CONFERENCE AD FEATURES SUBLIMINAL IMAGE OF BAPHOMET
With each passing year, Hillsong moves further away from teaching anything about the God of the Bible, and runs towards secular humanism at light speed. This year, they openly acknowledge that this event is not so much a Christian gathering as it is a 'humanitarian' event with global goals. This is right inline with the doctrine of the New World Order and the Illuminati globalist agenda. (http://nteb.mudflowermedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/hillsong-united-colour-conference-2016-features-subliminal-image-of-baphomet-false-church-nteb-933x445.jpg) HILLSONG COLOUR IS ABOUT YOU AND YOUR WORLD. IT IS HUMANITARIAN AT IT’S CORE AND OUR DESIRE AS 21ST CENTURY WOMEN, IS TO BE STRATEGICALLY POSITIONED TO CONTRIBUTE AND BRING SOLUTION TO PRESSING NEEDS THAT ARE BOTH LOCAL AND GLOBAL. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;” 1 Timothy 4:1 (KJV) For years, we have been warning you about the demonic false church known as Hillsong United steeped heavily in Illuminati symbolism and New Age imagery. We did a story last year on Hillsong NYC that had an openly gay couple leading choir worship. Our story went viral and Brian Houston was forced to issue a statement in an attempt to defuse the situation. We showed you video where Hillsong founder Houston claimed that Allah and the God of the Bible were the same. Anything we might have missed will be shown in the video below. https://youtu.be/am41xpM3Rps On the official website for the Hillsong Colour Conference, we read the following excerpt of what their ‘Godly gathering’ is all about: COLOUR IS ABOUT YOU AND YOUR WORLD. IT IS HUMANITARIAN AT IT’S CORE AND OUR DESIRE AS 21ST CENTURY WOMEN, IS TO BE STRATEGICALLY POSITIONED TO CONTRIBUTE AND BRING SOLUTION TO PRESSING NEEDS THAT ARE BOTH LOCAL AND GLOBAL. THE CONFERENCE IS CONTINUALLY CREATING PATHWAYS FOR WOMEN TO RAISE AWARENESS AND MOBILIZE RESPONSE. With each passing year, Hillsong moves further away from teaching anything about the God of the Bible, and runs towards secular humanism at light speed. This year, they openly acknowledge that this event is not so much a Christian gathering as it is a ‘humanitarian’ event with global goals. This is right in line with the doctrine of the New World Order and the Illuminati globalist agenda. Look closely at the image at the top of this article, and you will clearly see that the double image of the woman has been manipulated to display the image of Baphomet. Further, the ad invites you to be ‘found in the mystery’. Everything about it is dark and foreboding, there is no God within 1,000 miles of this ad or anything associated with the 2016 Colour Conference. Our advice? Do not be ‘found in the mystery’ of the demonic activities of anything associated with the Hillsong United Luciferian brand of end times ‘christianity’. Their music that you like so much is the bait used to lure you into a false system, preaching a false gospel and glorifying the Devil. We really can’t say it anymore plainly than that. “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4 (KJV) http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/hillsong-2016-womens-colour-conference-ad-features-subliminal-image-of-baphomet/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on May 28, 2016, 01:15:30 am GODLESS HILLSONG NYC WOMEN’S COLOUR CONFERENCE FEATURED AN APPEARANCE FROM THE ‘NAKED COWBOY’
In a world saturated with sex and sexual images, the Church is supposed to be the place where that is not allowed to enter. Not at Hillsong. Take a look at the following smartphone video of the closing night of the first-ever Hillsong Women's Conference in NYC, it's quite the eye-opener. A NEARLY NAKED COWBOY, THOUGH, IS AN ODD CHOICE FOR A WOMAN’S CONFERENCE THOUGH, DON’T YOU THINK? “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:5 (KJV) Hillsong United has been on a roll lately, and all of it bad. For quite a few years now, we have been reporting classic Hillsong events to you like the gay worship leader, the ultra sleazy ‘Silent Night‘ mockery, complete with Roaring Twenties flappers in a nightclub setting, and the image of Baphomet laced into their women’s conference marketing. Now they have gone and kicked things up to whole low-vel. ENTER THE NAKED COWBOY AT THE 2016 HILLSONG NYC WOMEN’S CONFERENCE In a world saturated with sex and sexual images, the Church is supposed to be the one place where that is not allowed to enter. Not at Hillsong. Take a look at the following smartphone video of the closing night of the first-ever Hillsong Women’s Conference in NYC, it’s quite the eye-opener. https://vimeo.com/168138881 I guess the only logical choice to keep the scantily-dressed ‘cheerleaders’ company would be the Naked Cowboy. A nearly naked cowboy, though, is an odd choice for a woman’s conference though, don’t you think? But the pagan pageantry didn’t stop there, check this out: https://vimeo.com/168141135 Now where do you see Jesus in any of this slop? Answer, you don’t. Look at the stage, and what do you see? A naked cowboy, and Elvis impersonator, a bearded male Statue of Liberty, various humans wearing furry animal costumes, and for good measure they get everyone all jacked up waving the American flag and shouting “USA!, USA!, USA!” Can you tell the difference between this and a rock concert? This is what passes for “church” in our Laodicean end times ‘christian’ gatherings. It looks more like John Bunyan’s word picture of the Godless ‘Vanity Fair’ so well illustrated in his classic ‘The Pilgrim’s Progress‘. “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” Romans 12:1,2 (KJV) Hillsong United and their various tentacles have made a mockery of Christianity and the Bible with worldly ‘shows’ like these. They should be ashamed of themselves, but sadly, they are quite proud of what they have accomplished. In the second video you hear ‘pastor’ Carl Lentz bragging about their ‘first ever Colour Conference in New York City’, all the while inciting the people into a Godless, sex-filled, rock and roll frenzy. Thankfully, all this junk will be ‘left behind’ when the Blessed Hope finally clears the table. I can’t wait. Amen. http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/godless-hillsong-nyc-colour-conference-featured-appearance-naked-cowboy/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on May 28, 2016, 05:12:38 pm Concerns Raised as Hillsong’s Carl Lentz Praises Oprah Winfrey After Appearance on Super Soul Sunday
Hipster Hillsong NYC leader Carl Lentz has drawn concerns over the past week after he posted a photograph on social media announcing his upcoming appearance on Oprah Winfrey’s “Super Soul Sunday” television broadcast. “I really enjoyed my time with @oprah filming for her Super Soul Sunday show,” he wrote on May 18. “She is truly a special woman and a culture changer. To come from absolute poverty in Mississippi and reach the point where she became the first African American multi-billionaire takes a passion and drive that is exceptional and tireless.” He continued to praise the talk show host, and said that others should emulate Oprah’s practice of thanking Jesus with each new day. “What struck me most about her, was her ease and kindness,” Lentz remarked. “She told me her key was ‘waking up each day and thanking Jesus for loving me and thanking Him for all he has done.’ That practice, in that order, is one to be copied.” The Hillsong leader also stated that he was thankful for the opportunity to talk about spiritual matters on Oprah’s broadcast. “I’m grateful that she opened up her platform to talk about Jesus unapologetically and without borders,” Lentz said. “It’s literally impossible to ‘say all the right things’ in interviews like this. I don’t even remotely try to. My goal is to always say the one thing that matters eternally, and by Gods grace, we are able to at least do that!” While the photo generated over 16,000 likes on Instagram and over 5,000 likes on Facebook, many raised concern over the Hillsong leader’s appearance with the television celebrity, who once said, “There are many ways, many paths to what you call God. … Does God care about your heart or does God care about if you call His Son Jesus?” “Oprah is a pagan with New Age beliefs. For many years she has stated that there are ‘many paths to God.’ She denies that Jesus said the way is narrow,” one wrote. “This is very disturbing,” another stated. “I actually am not surprised by Carl Lenz. I am disturbed about the lack of discernment in the Church. … Please Church wake up. Stop following men. Stop looking to be entertained.” “Lol c’mon man, do you need us watch-people to talk to you about Oprah, or can you figure out yourself?” a third wrote. “She openly denies John 14:6 is true, yet you’re claiming she wakes up everyday and thanks Jesus, the Jesus of John 14:6 she denied. This is the fruit we’re talking about man. Right here.” Lentz replied to the comments on Instagram, remarking that he doesn’t like followers arguing about the Bible on his page. “I don’t check these comments often, and the further I read on this thread, I’m reminded to do it less and less!” he said. “I will say that I can no longer allow people to use my comment section as their own personal theology blog! Can’t do it. Wrecks my picture and becomes almost embarrassing.” “To all those leaving encouraging messages, it is good to read. 99.9 percent of people understand what this, what we are all about,” Lentz continued. “Social media has given a voice or comment section to all. It is what it is! Remember: the light is winning!!!! And that light shines on trolls and kind people alike. Goodnight and God bless!!” As previously reported, Hillsong NYC is a popular 8,000 member Pentacostal congregation, which meets each week in nightclubs, theaters, and other venues across New York City. Trendy concert-like music, strobe lights, and Lentz’s unconventional messages draw thousands of attendees every Sunday. Celebrities often stop by Hillsong NYC to experience Lentz’s unorthodox messages, which are often replete with street slang and modern lingo. Pop star Justin Bieber occasionally attends services and was reportedly baptized by Lentz. Despite Lentz’s burgeoning popularity, many Christians are concerned with lack of clarity on social issues, including homosexuality. Lentz says he does not like preaching about moral debates and once told Katie Couric that Jesus “very rarely” talked about “morality and social issues.” “My Bible says, be attentive to individual needs,” Lentz told his congregation in a sermon, which was publicized by the Huffington Post. “So I’m not gonna make polarizing political statements about certain things in our Christian community right now. No matter who says what, we won’t be pressured into giving blanket statements to individual needs. Never.” http://christiannews.net/2016/05/28/concerns-raised-as-hillsongs-carl-lentz-praises-oprah-winfrey-after-appearance-on-super-soul-sunday/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on July 07, 2016, 03:34:46 pm http://www.contendingfortruth.com/end-time-current-events-7-4-16-part-3/
End Time Current Events–7-4-16 – Part 3 Table of Contents: •Hillsong United Church Steeped In Illuminati And New Age Symbolism •Exposing the Devil’s counterfeit church–Hillsong United is part of the demonic Emergent Church Movement and it is deadly spiritual poison wrapped in the candy-coated wrapper of the world’s entertainment •Hillsong United Leader Brian Houston Now Promoting Chrislam •The Naked Cowboy at Hillsong’s Women’s Conference–New York •Hillsong’s “Sleazy Silent Night!” •Austin Powers Impersonator Appears at Hillsong Women’s Conference •Hillsong’s NYC Choir Leader & ‘Gay Couple’ Contradicts Brian Houston: ‘We Have Been Open, Forthright from Get-Go’ •HELLSONG: They Will Not Endure Sound Doctrine •Eye Witness Account at Parliament of the World’s Religions 2015 Reveals Growing Animosity Toward Biblical Christians •Picture of a actual Gay Rainbow welcome flag that has been placed above the door of a Southern Baptist Church door in California •An internet ad implying what is coming •100K Member Satanic Temple Opening Chapters All Across America To ‘Battle Christianity’ •‘Black Mass’ Planned for August in Oklahoma… •Christianity Demonized as a Global Menace •Tom Cruise’s New $50 Million ‘Scientology CNN’ TV And Hollywood Movie Studio That Rivals Paramount Pictures Promises To Reach ‘Every Person On Earth’ With Coming Alien-Savior Gospel •Scott Johnson’s Teachings: Scientology, Aleister Crowley, L. Ron Hubbard and Black Magic & The Lure of New Age and Scientology Audio: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/472.3-7-4-16.mp3 http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/End-Time-Current-Events-7-4-16.pdf Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Psalm 51:17 on July 31, 2017, 12:12:14 pm http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/rivers-sandton-church-south-africa-laodicean-nightmare/
Hillsong-Connected Rivers Sandton Church In South Africa A Laodicean Nightmare That’s Actually A Shopping Mall Their website says that "Rivers is a dynamic church that offers inspirational, practical and motivational Bible teaching for people of all ages, races and social and economic backgrounds." In case you're thinking that the garish Rivers Sandton Campus shopping mall just hatched itself out of the "miraculous working of God", perhaps you need to refresh your memory with this video of what a money-making machine Hillsong really is. 7/26/17 Hillsong United and all their tentacles are the perfect fulfillment of the end times prophecy Jesus gave as to what the condition of the professing church would be in the end times. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3,4 (KJV) Be honest now, when you first saw the photo at the top of this article, did you say to yourself “hey, what a beautiful church that is”? I trow not, to say the least. Welcome to the Rivers Sandton Campus in South Africa. Welcome to Laodicea. On the official Rivers Sandton Campus website they proudly point to thier relationship with mega-bux “church” Hillsong United: It is an honour to be a part of the Hillsong Family, a unique group of over 25 churches worldwide, in relationship with Hillsong Church in Sydney Australia. Pastors Brian and Bobbie Houston have been friends of Rivers for almost two decades. They have spoken at our church and into our lives, and have been a great blessing to us. We are privileged to have been invited and included in this formation of fellowship. We remain an autonomous church with our own name, vision, culture and identity, but we will be working closely with Hillsong on various initiatives and will be able to glean valuable leadership and church insights from them, as well as have an accountability relationship that can only strengthen our church. Rivers Sandton Campus in South Africa costs tens of millions of dollars to build, wonder where all that money came from? Their website says that “Rivers is a dynamic church that offers inspirational, practical and motivational Bible teaching for people of all ages, races and social and economic backgrounds.” So let’s take a look at the type of church campus that people associated with Hillsong United would seek to create, shall we? Does that look like a church to you? It does if Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, or Kenneth Copeland is your pastor. And it does if you count among your business associates Brian Houston from Hillsong United. Rivers Sandton Campus is perfectly-cut from the Hillsong United Money-Machine template: In case you’re thinking that the garish Rivers Sandton Campus shopping mall just hatched itself out of the “miraculous working of God”, perhaps you need to refresh your memory with this video of what a money-making machine Hillsong really is. It’s the perfect crime. Hillsong funnels money to other “pastors” to start new mega-campuses, the money starts flowing in, and then the money starts flowing back to Hillsong via non-taxable and under and non-reported “love offerings” to the Houston compound. All Hillsong campuses (they won’t call them churches) are dependent on the Biblical ignorance of their followers. They preach on tithing, something Christians are never told to do in the New Testament, to ensure the smooth flowing of money. They are Pentecostal, so instead of teaching Bible doctrine they preach “feelings”. The “worship” services are highly reminiscent of nightclubs so their congregants will feel more at home in a “loving and non-judgmental” atmosphere. Hillsong United and all their tentacles are the perfect fulfillment of the end times prophecy Jesus gave as to what the condition of the professing church would be in the end times. Here it is: “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.” Revelation 3:14-18 (KJV) If you could reach back in time and bring the apostle Paul to the Rivers Sandton campus 2017, and told him that it was a Christian church, I think he would be so shocked he would either be struck dumb or so blazing mad he would set the whole thing on fire and burn it to the ground. Today’s mega-churches are tax-free money-making monstrosities that teach almost no Bible doctrine of any kind, which is how they attract such a “diverse group of followers” from all walks of life. Imagine what would happen in Rivers Sandton or Hillsong began preaching against the LGBT movement (tens of thousands of followers out the door), started preaching against drinking alcohol (hundreds of thousands of followers out the door), or stopped preaching on Old Testament tithing. Ha! They do that, and they’d have to close up shop overnight. But places like these could not stay in business without millions of dedicated gullible Christians who, like sheep to the slaughter, go without paying their bills so the Church corporation hierarchy can continue to live like kings. And speaking of “Money! Money! Money!”, let’s let Hillsong United founder Brian Houston have the last word. If you can stomach it. Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on November 02, 2017, 06:17:43 pm 'God Is the Judge,' Hillsong's Carl Lentz Tells 'The View' When Asked Whether or Not Abortion Is Sin
Carl Lentz of Hillsong New York recently appeared on ABC’s “The View,” where he was asked whether or not abortion is considered a sin at his church. While the answer was unclear, Lentz said that “God is the judge” and that he would prefer to know a person’s name and beliefs before making a determination as to whether or not they have sinned. “Hillsong is seen as this hip, progressive church that’s drawn huge millennial crowds, but it’s still evangelical,” co-host Sara Haines stated to Lentz during the Oct. 30 broadcast. “So, where do you stand on social issues that young people are particularly passionate about, like gay marriage [and] abortion? Like, how do you address those types of things?” “I think our job is still to help people—not necessarily change how they think—but try to point them to what God has said, what we believe the Bible [has] to say,” Lentz replied. “We believe that God is good, that God loves everybody, that Jesus was here to set people free, and that’s still the good news of the gospel.” He said that he tries to allow everyone who would like to hear the message to come to Hillsong because sometimes evangelicals and others shut out those who disagree on the issues. Bringing Lentz back around to the question, co-host Joy Bahar then asked, “So, it’s not a sin in your church to have an abortion?” “Um, that’s the kind of conversation we would have—finding out your story, where you’re from, what you believe,” Lentz replied. “Work through it,” Haines interjected. “Like, talk about things.” “Yeah, I mean, God’s the judge,” Lentz answered. “People have to live with their own convictions, and I think if I have to tell you…” His response drew applause from the audience. “That’s such a broad question to me. I’m going higher,” Lentz said. “I want to sit with somebody and say, ‘What do you believe?'” “So, it’s not an open-and-shut case with you,” Bahar observed. “Some people would say it is,” Lentz replied. “I think, to me, I’m trying to teach people who Jesus is first [and] find out their story. Before I start picking and choosing what is sin in your life, I’d like to know your name.” As previously reported, Lentz drew concern earlier this year after photos resurfaced of photos of the Hillsong hipster slamming shots with Justin Bieber at a bar in New Zealand. Bieber and Lentz also took a bike tour during the visit, singing along to the Ludacris profanity-laden song “Move [Expletive] (Get Out the Way).” “I’ve been drankin’ and bustin’ too/And I been thinkin’ of bustin’ you/Upside ya [expletive] forehead/And if your friends jump in/’Oh girl,’ they’ll be mo’ dead,” the lyrics read. “Move [expletive]! Get out the way!” While Lentz bobbed to the music and sang out the tune alongside Bieber, he substituted the recurring curse word in the chorus for “please,” while Bieber used the expletive. Lentz likewise received criticism year after he praised Oprah Winfrey following an appearance on her “Super Soul Sunday” broadcast. “What struck me most about her, was her ease and kindness,” he wrote. “She told me her key was ‘waking up each day and thanking Jesus for loving me and thanking Him for all he has done.’ That practice, in that order, is one to be copied.” Photo credit: Instagram After followers pointed out that Winfrey is involved in New Age and denies Jesus as being the only way to God, Lentz stated that he didn’t like followers using his page as their “own personal theology blog.” “Wrecks my picture and becomes almost embarrassing,” he wrote. He also raised eyebrows after his interview with Winfrey was aired as some worried about his response to Winfrey’s question as to whether or not only Christians can be in a relationship with God. No,” Lentz replied. “I believe that when Jesus said that ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life’—the way I read that, Jesus said that He is the road marker, He is the map.” “So, I think that God loves people so much that whether they accept or reject Him, He’s still gracious, and He’s still moving, and He’s still giving you massive red blinking lights, for chances to take a right turn where maybe you’d take a left,” he continued. “But I believe God loves people, and that’s what this whole gospel is based on—it’s love. You take the love out of it, we’ve got a moral book.” Lentz later said that he could have worded his reply more clearly as he really meant that everyone can have a relationship with God, and that Jesus is the way. As previously reported, Hillsong NYC is a popular 8,000-member congregation, which according to the Australian headquarters of Hillsong, is “a contemporary pentecostal church.” It meets each week at Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan and the Wellmont Theater in Montclair, New Jersey. http://christiannews.net/2017/11/02/god-is-the-judge-hillsongs-carl-lentz-tells-the-view-when-asked-whether-or-not-abortion-is-sin/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on November 19, 2017, 12:04:58 am Millennial megachurch pastor says Christians criticizing him ‘might know a different Jesus’
You got that right Carl Lentz, pastor at Hillsong Church, spoke with RELEVANT magazine for an interview published on Wednesday, where he addressed controversial comments he made about abortion during an early November appearance on “The View.” What were the comments that got him into trouble? Lentz came under fire after his appearance on the ABC daytime show after refusing to outright call abortion sinful. “God’s the judge,” Lentz told co-host Joy Behar after she asked him if it was a sin in his church to have an abortion. “People have to live to their own convictions, and I think if I have to tell you … that’s such a broad question to me,” he explained. Behar then pressed Lentz further and said, “So it’s not an open-and-shut case with you?” He responded, “Some people would say it is. I think, to me, I’m trying to teach people who Jesus is first, find out their story before I start picking and choosing what I think is sin in your life, I’d like to know your name.” Lentz initially clarified his position after the backlash, and on Twitter said, “Recently in an interview, I was asked direction if abortion is sin. I did not answer the question directly for a number of reasons and that has caused some confusion about our stance as a church on this matter. “I do believe abortion is sinful,” Lentz wrote. “Our prayer is that we can continue to help and love those that deal with the pain of regret from personal choices, rather than cast further shame and guilt on those already carrying so much and create a church that can teach people how to form convictions based on God’s word, that will be the driving force in all their decisions.” He concluded, “I will continue to point people to Jesus, above all else, every opportunity I get. The story of God’s redemptive grace, available to all, is the best news available.” rest: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11/17/millennial-megachurch-pastor-says-christians-criticizing-him-might-know-a-different-jesus Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on July 05, 2018, 05:36:43 pm Hillsong’s Joel Houston Raises Questions in Claiming Evolution Was ‘Created by God’ in Explanation of Worship Song ‘So Will I’
Joel Houston, band member and songwriter with Hillsong United and worship leader at Hillsong NYC, drew numerous questions among followers last week in claiming that evolution, being pursuant to God’s authority and creative Word, “is undeniable” and was “created by God.” The matter has left some confused, and some remain unsure about what Houston meant by his remarks or what he was referring to in using the word “evolution.” In seeking to sort out his various remarks, some have raised concerns, including the biblical creation organization Answers in Genesis, which deduced from Houston’s statements that the singer is asserting that “God started the universe with the supposed Big Bang and that naturalistic evolutionary processes followed” to bring about His declared will. Houston contends that he was trying to convey that “[s ]cience is just catching up with what God said”—that God spoke “Let there be light” and “bang!” The situation began on June 24 when a follower named Brian Peterson asked Houston, the son of Hillsong founder Brian Houston, if he has ever provided an explanation of the group’s reference to evolution in the popular worship song “So Will I (100 Billion X).” “All nature and science/Follow the sound of Your voice/And as You speak/A hundred billion creatures catch Your breath/Evolving in pursuit of what You said/If it all reveals Your nature, so will I,” the lyrics state. “Evolution is undeniable—created by God as a reflective means of displaying nature’s pattern of renewal in pursuance of God’s Word—an ode to the nature of the creative God it reflects—and only ever in part—not the SOURCE!” Houston replied. “Science and faith aren’t at odds. God created the Big Bang.” As his response drew controversy, Houston posted clarification that he doesn’t believe evolution is the source of all creation—God is the Creator and spoke all things into existence—but that the reference was rather in regard to his view that creation evolves and adapts to catch up with what God authoritatively called it to be. In other words, Houston believes that evolutionary events continue to take place in nature to come into obedience to the Word of God spoken at the beginning. While he did not provide specific examples of what he believes to be evolution, he agreed with a follower who said that they wanted to keep the discussion of evolution “micro and not macro,” so as not to confuse “bad philosophy with good science.” “Context—things evolve, they change and adapt. I DON’T believe in evolution as a theory of SOURCE; I believe it’s merely a pattern of nature—created by God, reflecting nature’s desire for renewal, survival, new life—something-SomeONE—like God,” he said. “I think what gets lost, strangely enough, is that in any case, the Word comes before any kind of Big Bang. ‘Let there be light’!! BOOM!! And there WAS!!!” Houston stated. He also referred to the matter in a spiritual sense, outlining God’s transformative power, that “[w]e’ve been saved and called to a embody a different nature.” “I think adaptability is nature’s way; the Spirit calls us to adapt to a different kind of nature—either way, we’re all evolving—towards what, and WHO, is the question for all of us,” Houston stated. “[A]ccording to the Spirit-nature renewing us, we evolve counter-naturally to that of our earthen nature—ever in response to God’s Word,” he further noted. When asked if he believes in the Big Bang or a literal six-day creation, he responded vaguely, “It means I believe God created everything and His Word came first.” Yet, when another reader took issue with Houston’s statement that “God created the Big Bang,” he replied, “And the earth was formless and void, darkness covered the earth, and the Spirit was hovering over the surface of the deep. And God said, ‘Let there be light!’ And there was … BANG! That’s all I’m saying. Science is just catching up with what God said.” Houston also responded to another follower who asked about where he stands on ape to man evolution, advising that he believes God made man out of the dust, as stated in Genesis. He opined that some were jumping to conclusions about his beliefs and not understanding his words or the words of the song. “The entire premise of ‘So Will I’ is the redemptive, creative, authority and power of God’s Word. That at the end of the day, all our best theories, ideas, dogmas and best attempts at understanding will ultimately surrender to the ‘Word at the beginning,'” Houston said. However, he additionally suggested that it doesn’t matter whether God created the universe in a literal six days or if it evolved over time. “If God’s creative process was an easy working week, or finely crafted over six-ages of millennia, does it make Him any more or less God?” Houston asserted. “Or us any more or less created in His image? Either way, it was an unfathomably wonderful six-day process, however you think to see it.” Another follower stated that he found a problem with the concept of “whatever your viewpoint, God controlled it,” because if natural selection occurred before The Fall, it would contradict the Scripture that teaches, “Through one man, death entered the world…” “Well now, we could start going DEEEP!!!! Perhaps too deep for tweets,” Houston replied. “I wasn’t there (literally), so I can’t say … but I don’t believe any of it is a problem to God, when it comes to His redemptive plan for humanity.” Read Houston’s comments here and here, and view a video explanation of the song recorded in 2017 here. Ken Ham’s Answers in Genesis was asked by the ministry’s supporters to comment on the matter, and he, along with Dr. Georgia Purdom, said that while “it’s hard to know exactly what Joel Houston is saying,” they concluded that “there’s enough in the tweets to convince us that Joel Houston did use the terms science and evolving in the second verse of the song to mean that God started the universe with the supposed Big Bang and that naturalistic evolutionary processes followed.” “The terminology used here is common among those who compromise evolution with Genesis … who claim that God started everything with the Big Bang and built into that original creation the laws of nature so that by natural processes everything would unfold over billions of years to produce the universe and all living things as they are today,” Ham and Purdom outlined. They said that the Big Bang, as it is known in scientific terms, is not biblical. “Many Christians have argued that the way God created in Genesis could be described as God using a Big Bang as his method. However, the Big Bang model has the stars and sun coming into existence before the earth, whereas the creation account in Genesis clearly teaches that the earth was created before the sun and the stars. Many other contradictions make it clear that God did not use the supposed Big Bang to create,” Ham and Purdom stated. They opined that if they understand Houston’s tweets correctly, they would not sing the song—especially considering his assertion that it doesn’t matter whether Creation was a literal six days or not—and are concerned about how the tune could influence others based on how he explained it. “We think his response makes it quite clear that he’s saying a person can believe in evolution/millions of years or six days of creation, but it doesn’t matter, as long as you believe in and worship our Creator God. Now if this is so, would we sing this song? Not at all,” Ham and Purdom stated. “In fact, if our understanding is correct, then this song and what Joel has said about his composition, can, sadly, potentially influence thousands of young people with a compromised position on Scripture in Genesis.” David Mathis, who also wrote about the matter for Desiring God, said that he wasn’t certain what the lyrics meant either, but remarked that at the very least, the use of “evolving” was a poor word choice, especially for corporate worship. “Maybe the authors didn’t really mean ‘evolve,’ but only hoped to communicate that God’s hundred billion creatures ‘obey,’ or are ‘led by,’ or are ‘guided by’ what God says. That’s the best possible reading I can imagine, but the problem remains: ‘evolve’ does not mean ‘obey.’ ‘Evolve’ does not mean ‘guide,'” he wrote. “This ‘evolving’ line is either what many of us would view as a foolish compromise with unbelieving philosophy (masquerading as ‘science’), or it’s a very bad word choice.” “Whatever was intended by the authors, I cannot see how a significant number of worshipers will not be distracted and confused by that word choice—which is disappointing since it’s such a good song otherwise,” Mathis said. Answers in Genesis said that it would like to see Houston publicly denounce the Big Bang (as used by secular scientists) and evolution, and clearly state that he believes in the literal six-day creation. “Also, I would like to publicly invite him to come visit the Ark Encounter and the Creation Museum, and I would gladly give him a personal tour,” Ham said. Read Ham’s post in full here and Mathis’ post here. On Monday, Houston shared a link about a young planet that is stated to still be forming, writing, “Fake news?—or the ever-expanding wonder of God’s Word still creating evolving-things from whence it first spoke ‘little lights into the vault of the sky to help govern the day and the night, and separate light from darkness’?” https://christiannews.net/2018/07/03/hillsongs-joel-houston-raises-questions-in-claiming-evolution-is-undeniable-in-explanation-of-worship-song-so-will-i/ Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on August 13, 2019, 06:51:43 pm Hillsong’s Marty Sampson: ‘I’m Genuinely Losing My Faith’
Yet another public figure popular within Christianity has come forward to say he is “losing” his faith. Hillsong’s Marty Sampson, who is credited with writing or co-writing some of the most popular worship songs today, wrote on Instagram that Christianity is “not for me.” In a follow-up post, though, Sampson indicated he was studying some of the faith’s leading apologists, including John Lennox and Ravi Zacharias. He also said in response to a Christian Post column that he hasn’t “renounced” his faith but that “it’s on incredibly shaky ground.” Sampson’s initial post came a few weeks after bestselling Christian author Joshua Harris – who wrote I Kissed Dating Goodbye – announced he is no longer a Christian. “Time for some real talk,” Sampson wrote in a now-deleted Instagram post. “... I’m genuinely losing my faith ... and it doesn’t bother me… like, what bothers me now is nothing… I am so happy now, so at peace with the world... It’s crazy. “This is a soapbox moment so here I go… how many preachers fall? Many. No one talks about it. How many miracles happen. Not many. No one talks about it. Why is the Bible full of contradictions? No one talks about it. How can God be love yet send four billion people to a place, all coz they don’t believe? No one talks about it. Christians can be the most judgmental people on the planet – they can also be some of the most beautiful and loving people… but it’s not for me.” Sampson is listed as a writer or co-writer of dozens of songs, including Hillsong’s God He Reigns. “I am not in anymore,” Sampson wrote. “I want genuine truth. Not the ‘I just believe it’ kind of truth. Science keeps piercing the truth of every religion. Lots of things help people change their lives, not just one version of God. Got so much more to say, but for me, I’m keeping it real. Unfollow if you want, I’ve never been about living my life for others.” “All I know is what’s true to me right now, and Christianity just seems to me like another religion at this point,” he added. “I could go on, but I won’t. Love and forgive absolutely. Be kind absolutely. Be generous and do good to others absolutely. Some things are good no matter what you believe. Let the rainfall, the sun will come up tomorrow,” the songwriter concluded. The post has since been deleted. This week, he posted pictures of five Christian apologists, including Lennox, Zacharias and Mike Licona, and wrote: “I don’t know these men personally, but I do watch them regularly and listen to their arguments. If you don’t know who they are, perhaps you may want to find out more about them.” He also posted a picture of Francis Collins, a Christian who affirms the theory of evolution, with a quote from Collins: “The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming. I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to deny that.” Below both new posts, fans said they were praying for him. Sampson responded to a Christian Post column, “Reaching out to a Hillsong leader who is renouncing his faith,” by saying he is studying both sides of the faith debate. “I have and continue to analyze the arguments of prominent Christian apologists and biblical scholars, and am open-minded enough to consider the arguments of atheist debaters and debaters from other religions,” he wrote. “If the truth is true, it will remain so regardless of my understanding of it. If I search it out, surely it will become even more clearly seen as the truth that it is. Examining a diamond more closer reveals the quality of the diamond. As I am still breathing, I am still learning.” Denny Burk, professor of biblical studies at Boyce College in Louisville, Ky., said stories like those of Sampson and Harris are a reminder that the believer should never place one’s faith in a mortal person. “Our faith is ultimately not in any Christian celebrity or leader but in Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world who never fails or disappoints,” Burk told Christian Headlines. Apostasy, he added, is real. “Jesus warned us that it would happen (Matt. 13:20-22) and so did the apostles (Acts 20:30). Nevertheless, it is painful and heartbreaking to witness. No one plans on apostatizing when they come to Christ. Life happens. Troubles come. Faith is tested. The soil is eventually revealed for what it is. What will time and trouble reveal about you? About me? “... And there is nothing in our flesh to keep us from [apostasy]. We are just as dependent upon God’s grace today as we were the first day we tasted it. If we stand, it will be by the power of God alone. Apart from grace, we would all be careening to our own destruction.” https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/hillsong-s-marty-sampson-i-m-genuinely-losing-my-faith.html Title: Re: Hillsong Music Band Exposed Post by: Mark on August 13, 2019, 06:53:11 pm Original Hillsong Worship Leader Marty Sampson Announces He's 'Leaving Christianity' Because The Bible Is 'Full Of Contradictions' • Now The End Begins Hillsong worship leader Marty Sampson announced on Instagram Friday that he’s “genuinely losing his faith”—and he’s not upset about it. Over the past few years, there has been a tidal wave of contemporary Christian church leaders who have dramatically announced they are ‘leaving the faith’ because they no longer believe the Bible is true. Just two weeks ago, Joshua Harris, author of ‘I Kissed Dating Goodbye‘ decided he had had enough and walked away. Baptist pastors write editorials in USA Today telling Christians to ‘apologize to the LGBTQ+‘, and Jesse Duplantis still needs $54 million for that new jet. Now one of the original Hillsong worship leaders and writer of popular Christian music Marty Sampson says he doesn’t want to be a Christian anymore. Hmm. 🤔 “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1,2 (KJV) One of the great tragedies of the modern ‘seeker sensitive‘ church movement is that they created converts based on their feelings rather than on the word of God. Why are the modern megachurches filled to overflowing on a Sunday morning? Because they come for the music, and the fun, and the coffee shop in the lobby, and they love how good they feel when the service is over. And none of that is biblical, and none of that is the gospel of the grace of God. “That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:12-14 (KJV) The Bible when preached in truth and power tells you exactly who and what you are, a lowly sinner who deserves Hell who God saved anyway because He loved you. That’s where the gospel starts, it starts with you headed for Hell until Jesus stepped in and paid your debt, and then you accepted that free gift. How does that make you feel? First it makes you feel terrible when you realize that He had to die because you are sinner. And then when you think on that awhile, it makes you feel glad beyond measure that He loved you so much to be willing to die in your place. It’s a hard truth, but it’s a hard truth that heals you, saves you, redeems you and restores you. Any church that doesn’t preach on Hell is no church at all by Bible standards. “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16 (KJV) But when all you are fed is peppy, upbeat ‘worship songs’ with their endless and mind-deadening repetitive choruses, in ‘church services’ that make you applaud everything that is said and done, you are spiritually dead and empty inside, unable to weather the storms of life so you eventually quit like Marty did and all the others have done. Charles Spurgeon warned that the time would come when instead of pastors feeding the sheep, the church would be filled with clowns entertaining the goats. That day is here. Hillsong Worship Leader Marty Sampson Announces He Wants No Part in Christianity Anymore FROM CHARISMA MAGAZINE: Marty Sampson was one of Hillsong United’s original worship leaders and wrote and co-wrote hundreds of praise songs including hits like “Now that You’re Near,” “King of Majesty,” “O Praise the Name,” “For Who You Are” and “Open Heaven.” In his post—which has since been deleted, along with the rest of the artist’s Instagram posts—he included a picture of what appears to be Samson bringing down the pillars of the Philistine temple in Judges 16. He writes that the more he thinks about it, the more Christianity seems just like every other religion, and he doesn’t want any part of it anymore: “Christians can be some of the most judgmental people on the planet—they can also be some of the most beautiful and loving people … but it’s not for me. I am not in any more. I want genuine truth. Not the ‘I just believe it’ kind of truth. Science keeps piercing the truth of every religion. Lots of things help people change their lives, not just one version of God.” Sampson also points to apparent contradictions in the Bible and the church as a reason he’s leaving the faith. “How many preachers fall?” he asks. “Many. No one talks about it. How many miracles happen? Not many. No one talks about it. Why is the Bible full of contradictions? No one talks about it. How can God be love yet send 4 billion people to a place, all coz [sic] they don’t believe? No one talks about it.” Joel Osteen The Power Of I Am Book CLICK TO VISIT THE END TIMES CHURCH OF LAODICEA ARTICLE ARCHIVE Cultural commentator Michael Brown challenges Sampson’s assertions that no one talks about these issues. Brown points to the countless articles that were written in Christian and secular media when Joshua Harris announced his departure from the faith two weeks ago. For commentary on miracles and supposed contradictions in the Bible, Brown says there are plenty of books. “Well, I’m thrilled to hear he wants ‘genuine truth’ as opposed to simply taking things by faith,” Brown says. “But I must ask once more, ‘What Christian world has he been living in?” Despite leaving Christianity, Sampson says he still holds onto what he believes is good about spirituality: “Love and forgive absolutely. Be kind absolutely. Be generous and do good to others absolutely. Some things are good no matter what you believe. Let the rain fall, the sun will come up tomorrow.” In the wake of Sampson’s announcement, Brown encourages Christians everywhere not to be afraid of asking the hard questions. And he prays Sampson’s heart would genuinely know the truth. “My prayer is that Marty Sampson would have the integrity of heart to seek the truth earnestly, with humility and passion, and that all others with questions will put those questions on the table. … Let’s pray for Marty’s repentance, restoration and more.” READ MORE https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/original-hillsong-worship-leader-marty-sampson-announces-he-is-leaving-christianity-because-bible-full-of-contradictions/ |