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Title: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 02, 2012, 10:38:37 am
This is a minister at one of the megachurches in the metroplex - Take a closer look...

(http://www.hopefellowship.net/images/stories/aboutslides/slide1.jpg)


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: PeanutGallery on November 03, 2012, 09:51:52 am
OK, I give up; what's wrong with the picture?


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 03, 2012, 12:48:47 pm
Anyone? :-\

Here's a hint:
Pro_22:6  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

In other words, name one thing not only our parents, but even other authority figures like school officials would get after us alot about growing up as children?(and look closely at this guy in the pic)


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Kilika on November 04, 2012, 01:25:28 am
 :-\ His shirt isn't tucked in?

I don't know BA. Your being a bit cryptic.


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2012, 04:20:55 am
he didnt wash his hands?


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 04, 2012, 08:03:07 am
:-\ His shirt isn't tucked in?

I don't know BA. Your being a bit cryptic.

Yes, THAT'S IT! Pretty much all of us, growing up as children especially...this was the ONE thing not only our parents, but also our school officials would get after us almost constantly - tucking our shirts in, even more so than brushing our teeth, having good table manners, greeting others with a smile, having polite manners toward others, the list goes on. Even to this day my mom makes sure I have every inch of my shirt tucked in. I'll admit even I find it a bit annoying being reminded over this, BUT, BUT...going around outside and around other people with seeing their shirts not tucked in shows lack of manners(at least on the outward appearance), which is why we should be very appreciative of our parents and other authority figures getting after us to do so all these years.

This seems to be a trend in the Emergent/Postmodern megachurch nowdays - REBELLION. Especially when you see these "ministers" go around like this, suffice to say even an outward appearance can paint a 1000 words.(even though we're not supposed to judge by the outward appearance) And it also shudders me how the modern generation is really showing their rebellion pretty blatantly and outwardly. I know the bible predicted these things would come to pass, but again, when you see these kinds of things in a "church" setting...(something even Churchianity back in the 80's wouldn't even think twice of doing)


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2012, 08:47:48 am
uhm, really? Does the Lord have a dress code? I do not tuck my shirts in, cant stand it, and it has nothing to do with rebellion. That is one thing that i cannot stand about churchianity is the so called "sunday" dress code. I dont see a tucked or non tucked in shirt having anything to do with rebellion. sorry...

Does a pastor have to wear a suit and tie? The apostles and the Lord all wore what everyone wore.


Jas 2:1  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Jas 2:2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
Jas 2:3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Jas 2:4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 04, 2012, 09:45:26 am
uhm, really? Does the Lord have a dress code? I do not tuck my shirts in, cant stand it, and it has nothing to do with rebellion. That is one thing that i cannot stand about churchianity is the so called "sunday" dress code. I dont see a tucked or non tucked in shirt having anything to do with rebellion. sorry...

Does a pastor have to wear a suit and tie? The apostles and the Lord all wore what everyone wore.


Jas 2:1  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Jas 2:2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
Jas 2:3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Jas 2:4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?


I know what you're saying - and no, I'm not saying everyone has to dress up in a nice suit and tie on the Lord's day(and no, I don't support any of the 501c3 entities, whether they're KJV-only or the typical mega-friendly church).

But was just pointing this out b/c throughout my own lifetime, tucking in our shirts in any place(whether in a church setting, a school setting, or even a casual atmosphere) was 99% of the time reminded us by those who look after us, even more so than brushing our teeth, putting on a smile, having good table manners, etc. Which is why I'm surprised to see the trend changing even in Churchianity with ministers on the pulpit.

With that being said, yes, I think I understand what you're saying now - maybe I should re-think this, b/c again, this is the atmosphere I grew up in.

As for the church this minister in the OP is in - there's much more wicked stuff in there to expose(rather than the debate of tucking in vs. not tucking in one's shirt). Look at this church's logo... :o

(http://www.hopefellowship.net/images/logo.png)


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: PeanutGallery on November 04, 2012, 10:34:46 am
(http://www.hopefellowship.net/images/logo.png)
Hmmm! Hebrew 666? As above so below?

btw, I only tuck in my shirt when wearing suspenders.


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2012, 10:41:11 am
Hmmm! Hebrew 666? As above so below?


how did you get that?


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2012, 10:55:18 am
the best that i can come up with for that pic is that those were the colors assigned to the Tribe of LEVI according to the Midrash, for use on the Tallith's, or prayer shawls thingies.  dont understand why they would use that. At first i thought it might have been a boating emergency flag or something.


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: PeanutGallery on November 04, 2012, 01:43:45 pm
how did you get that?
Turn it sideways and the white and black lines could be hebrew sixes.
Or, the black line could be the connection between heaven and earth.
But, I don't think it is suspenders for those who keep their shirts tucked.


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 04, 2012, 03:24:06 pm
the best that i can come up with for that pic is that those were the colors assigned to the Tribe of LEVI according to the Midrash, for use on the Tallith's, or prayer shawls thingies.  dont understand why they would use that. At first i thought it might have been a boating emergency flag or something.

The pic also looks like that compass/square Freemasonic symbol(with the black and white in between looking like a serpent), albeit done another signature. Alot like, let's say, I write down the name "Mark", and you write down this same name - the handwriting looks different, but the same thing written down.

Rick Warren also has this very similar symbol on his web site as well.


Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on November 04, 2012, 04:28:33 pm
To clarify - no, I'm not saying every single person in this world who doesn't tuck in their shirt lives in rebellion. It was just when I saw that pic, it reminded me how not only my parents, but other authority officials(ie-school) in my lifetime would keep reminding me and others around me to tuck our shirts in, even more so than having good table manners. Again, this is only from my experiences.

Also to throw this out there too - again, I don't support any 501c3 institution, but the typical megachurch/Postmodernism Emergent church pretty much have taken down all of the cross signs on their properties, which should say alot right there. It's not like this particular symbol I posted above is some "pop culture marketable fad"(whether it's occultic in nature or no) to young people, which should also raise another red flag.



Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Boldhunter on November 04, 2012, 05:36:21 pm
I have to say, I looked at Creflo Dollar's streaming online service live this a.m. and he served communion in an appropriate manner AND he was dressed very snazzy.