End Times and Current Events

Here we go again...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/reports-connecticut-police-evacuating-elementary-school-where-shooting-153815107.html

Reports: Connecticut police evacuating elementary school where shooting reported

State police are entering a Connecticut elementary school after a shooting was reported there. The building, Sandy Hook Elementary in Newton, Conn., is on lockdown and police are evacuating people inside the building, NBC Connecticut reports.
 
Connecticut's News 8 WTNH-TV says a witness saw one child with a bloody face leaving the building.

Oh boy, this is WORSE than Columbine... :-[

http://fox40.com/2012/12/14/close-to-20-people-killed-in-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting/

CNN) — The suspected gunman’s body was found in a classroom inside a Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school where authorities say as many as 20 were killed, including 10 children, a source close to the investigation told CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

More information to come. Keep checking FOX40.com.

http://www.infosalvo.com/us-news/newton-connecticut-elementary-shooting-is-a-staged-false-flag/

Newton Connecticut Elementary Shooting Is A Staged False Flag
by Matt McCarson | InfoSalvo.com

At least 27 people were murdered (including 18 children) at Newton Elementary in Connecticut Friday during a staged false glag attack against our guns when multiple shooters were initially reported opening up fire in an elementary school resulting in one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.  This comes after a series of shooting rampages spreading across the country taking place in mostly white, suburban areas. 

Within minutes of the reported shooting CNN had a police officer on calling for neurological screening for firearm purchases.  Witnesses report at least 100 rounds were fired inside of the school from 2 gunmen.  One of the gunmen was reported killed and the other was arrested in the woods just outside of the school. The one shooter in custody was reported to have multiple weapons and body armour according to fox news. CNN reports the gunman looked directly at one of the parents while being escorted to a police car and said "I DID NOT DO IT". 

The first shooter will no doubt be dubbed the lone shooter, will be framed with the 3 name mind control tag, and paraded on the news as the lone nut as the military psy ops land a direct hit on our second amendment. There will no doubt be more shootings to frame gun owning americans as Fox News leaves us with the premonition stating "..unfortunately when these kindergarten shootings get started THERE WILL BE OTHERS".

InfoSalvo.com

need a disclaimer for that AJ shock jock stuff. thi swas NO False Flag. Thanx AJ for making crazies all over the place.  ::)

Well, either way, this will be used by the NWO to further their agendas on gun control. Didn't Obama make a speech over this incident not too long ago? Recently you had the Bob Costas remarks on the NBC SNF halftime show, and then the Baltimore Ravens Terrell Suggs got his guns taken away over an unrelated law he broke.

Ultimately, I don't think everyone's guns will be taken away by force - when things start going from bad to worse(economically, etc), this is when gun owners could be tempted to give their guns away for a piece of bread, etc. Alot like how churches of today kicked out the KJV...b/c they were seduced by all these beautiful-looking perverted bibles on the market(ie-the teen NIV study bible, cartoon-made bible stories for kids, etc).

Proverbs_12:26  The righteous is more excellent than his neighbour: but the way of the wicked seduceth them.

Rev_2:20  Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Social media networking, again... ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-control-debate-erupts-twitter-195914529.html

The horrific shooting at the Newtown, Conn., elementary school that left multiple people dead, including, it's believed, 20 children, has re-ignited the gun control debate. Commenters took to Twitter to express their views, pro and con.
 
Trending topics on Twitter included "2nd Amendment," "NRA" and "Columbine"—a reference to the mass shooting at Columbine High School in Columbine, Colo., in 1999.
 
Ross McCall ‏(@maccageezer) wrote, "Senseless. The 2nd Amendment is NOT what it was originally set up to be. HAS to be more gun control."
 
Daniel Stewart ‏@dnstewart67 tweeted, "Any American who would prefer to see this on their TV rather than lose the 2nd amendment have no humanity. Sheer horror."
 
Comedian Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) wrote, "Band-Aids-on-Band-Aids @NRA people want MORE access to guns to combat all the people w access to guns."
 
Mediaite tweeted about MSNBC host's Andrea Mitchell's editorializing on air, who said, "When we talk about gun violence in this country, we're not talking about Second Amendment rights." She also called gun violence an "epidemic."
 
Filmmaker Michael Moore (@MMFlint), who made a documentary about the Columbine school shooting, "Bowling for Columbine," tweeted,‏ "Too soon to speak out about a gun-crazy nation? No, too late. At least THIRTY-ONE school shootings since Columbine."
 
Assif Manvi (@aasif) of "The Daily Show,"  posted, "The #NRA politicians will now tell us that this tragedy could have been prevented if children carried guns! #WAKEUPAMERICA."
 
Plenty of people also defended gun rights. SamEwinks (‏@SamEwinks), for instance, wrote, "The only gun reform we need is to allow people the ability to defend themselves, not provide nut jobs with easy targets #nra."
 
josefsmith2011 (@josefsmith2011) posted, "Guns don't kill people people do! Practice the 2nd amendment—keep your gun loaded with you at all times—the younger you are the better."
 
And Cutty (@LilCutty) tweeted, "Changing the 2nd Amendment wont stop ppl from doin foolishness."

no doubt about that, they even have Gabby Giffords husband making a plea for more gun laws. The only gun law they really need is to force everyone to carry a gun. I bet a lot less kids would have died if the teachers were armed. another 1 or 2 gun laws wouldnt have stopped this guy.

And remember the "Brady Bill" passed under Reagan - of course, that guy who tried to assassinate Reagan had "Catcher in the Rye" in his back pocket at the time(this book was written by a former CIA agent, who specialized in the mind control area - but this is a completely different subject of itself elsewhere). Either way that law didn't help one iota either.

22 children slashed by knife-wielding adult at elementary school in China...

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-china-stabbingsbre8bd065-20121213,0,5592318.story


where is the outcry for KNIFE control and laws?

Didn't OJ Simpson use a knife to commit his crimes? Wasn't OJ and Bob Costas partners in the NBC broadcasting boot for awhile? Wasn't Costas the same guy who make some anti-gun comments recently?

Just saying...

Good disclaimer!

Although wanted to point out that FOX News DID make this comment(which was heard over the live feed link)...

Fox News leaves us with the premonition stating "..unfortunately when these kindergarten shootings get started THERE WILL BE OTHERS".
http://www.livestream.com/foxct

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/live-updates-newtown-ct-school-shooting/

ABC is usually wrong in their reporting. Im really hoping they are wrong here also. As they would love to make it illegal for anyone with a mental disorder to own a weapon. Than it comes down to just what a mental disorder is, and who says who has one. The UN tries this every couple of years, and there was a push not to long ago to make Christians into having a mental disorder, when we all know its democrats that have a mental disorder.

^^

From my experiences with people with AS(mild autism), yeah, they can get angry and pretty wild(and even physically hit others and throw things around), but NEVER, NEVER do they go to the level of THIS kind of violence. This is just SO hogwash. >:(

Well, the same can be said for Freemasons, 'cuz with all the rituals et al they perform in their lodges, they are spiritually DRUNK(this type of drunkenness the bible warns alot about as well). Throw in all of the Purpose Driven/Emergent member churches around the globe for that matter too, especially with all of this contemplative prayer deception they're fooling around with,

BTW - Autism/AS is REALLY not a mental disorder, why? B/c it largely has to do with the food/beverage intake, as their digestive systems are out of wack. I've read stories where 7 year old kids were maintained OK after they were fed the proper diets. Remember Jesus Christ distinctly separated sickness and devil possession.

CNN’s Piers Morgan Calls for Immediate Handgun Ban as Gun Control Shills Seek to Exploit Mass Shooting Tradegy

By Alex Thomas
theintelhub.com
December 14, 2012

Just minutes after the news broke that a shooter in his 20′s had opened fire at an elementary school in Connecticut, noted gun control advocate and CNN primetime host Piers Morgan began tweeting calls for stricter gun control.

As most of the country set glued to their TV or computer screen watching the horror unfold on TV, Morgan began posting a series of tweets that, among other things, implied the need for an across the board handgun ban.

This is America’s Dunblane. We banned handguns in Britain after that appalling tragedy. What will the U.S. do? Inaction not an option.— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) December 14, 2012

The fact that the host of a CNN primetime show would openly call for the outright destruction of one of America’s most prized freedoms just goes to show how deep the bankster globalist take over goes.

Not wanting to stop after calling for what would amount to the end of the Second Amendment, Morgan, showing his complete disdain for everything American, then published a series of tweets that challenged Obama and others to EXPLOIT this tragedy to implement gun control.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan – White House spokesman Jay Carney’s right – today’s not the day to debate gun control. YESTERDAY was the day to debate it.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan – Don’t just mourn these poor dead children America – get angry and do something to stop these senseless shootings happening.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan - Any moment now, a gun nut will tweet me saying ‘If all the kids in that school had been armed, the shooters would have been stopped…’ (a clear-cut fallacy as no one would claim the kids need to be armed, rather the adults in the school should have been armed)

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan -Last 2yrs: movie theatres, shopping malls, temples, a congresswoman, now an elementary school – when will America deal with its gun madness?

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan - Another day, another horrific shooting – this time at an elementary school in Connecticut. America’s gun culture has to change.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan -This is now President Obama’s biggest test – will he have the courage to stand up to the American gun lobby?

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan -No more weasly words of ‘comfort’ Mr President. This is the latest, and worst, gun outrage on your watch. Time to act. #GunControl

As you can see, Morgan has absolutely no problem exploiting this horrible tragedy for his own political agenda which just so happens to include disarming the American people, a move that WILL, in turn, lead to many deaths as well as the possibility that our government could easily attack the people with little to no consequences.

The fact that there has been so many shootings in the last two years just as calls for gun control are gaining ground is simply too perfect to be a coincidence.

The gun control lobby and their globalist backers could very easily be using MK Ultra type mind control on the numerous “lone gunman” who have committed horrific acts of murder which are then used to call for the banning of firearms for law-abiding citizens.

The gun control that Piers Morgan and the rest of the out of control gun control lobby want would literally take guns out of YOUR hands and put them into the hands of criminals throughout the country. The fact of the matter is that criminals do not purchase guns legally and the vast majority of murders are NOT carried about by citizens who have guns registered in their own name.

While some of the past mass shooting lone gunman, including the Connecticut shooter, may have obtained their weapons legally, this doesn’t change the fact that law-abiding citizens have a god given right to legally purchase and have firearms that can’t be taken away or limited due to the actions of a very small minority.

It is also important to note that one of the main reasons we have a 2nd Amendment is because the BRITISH didn’t allow private gun ownership and, after fighting for and obtaining our freedom from the hands of the corrupt British Monarchy, our founding fathers KNEW it was very important that the public had the right to bare arms in the case that they were ever needed to fight back against an out of control government.

That’s right, we now have what many believe to be a British agent with a primetime show in America that has gone on the offensive against the US Constitution and the 2nd amendment in particular.

Although many Americans already consider CNN to be nothing more than a propaganda outlet, these tweets and startling call for a handgun ban by one of their primetime hosts directly shows that they are anything but unbiased in their pro-government, pro liberal coverage.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/14/cnns-piers-morgan-calls-for-immediate-handgun-ban-as-gun-control-shills-seek-to-exploit-mass-shooting-tradegy/

uhm, thats not true, not true at all. My son only drinks water and occasionaly milk. He doesnt like anything else. and he eats healthy. its the vaccinations, he was fine until then.

That was kind of the point I was trying to get at - for some reason, I didn't finish what I was going to say(sometimes I get my thoughts out too fast).

Yes, it's a mental disorder, but at the same time the digestive systems(among other physical parts of the inner body) have alot to do with the functioning as well. Dr. Mercola had on a guest one time, a female doctor, and she talked about how her son got autism b/c she had alot of gut flora.

Yes, I understand the vaccines as well.

Anyhow - back to the topic of gun control - autism people, from my own experiences, are SCARED of LOUD SOUNDS. They wouldn't even touch a gun with a 10 foot pole, which makes it hard for me to believe this guy had any trace of autism.

ALEX JONES: 'THE FIX IS IN, THEY'RE COMING FOR OUR GUNS'...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2h1QNTQDnoU

More than 25,000 sign petition calling on Obama administration to address gun control, introduce legislation - whitehouse.gov

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-address-issue-gun-control-through-introduction-legislation-congress/2tgcXzQC

some of the devil spawn trying to use this tragedy to push their agenda

US Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg: If we do not take action to address gun violence, shooting tragedies like this will continue. As President Obama said, we must act now 'regardless of the politics.' - statement via @NBCNews

Mark Kelly, husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, calls for meaningful discussion about gun laws - statement

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg: The country needs [Obama] to send a bill to Congress to fix this problem. Calling for 'meaningful action' is not enough - @TPM

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York: 'The gloves are off' if President Obama fails to act on gun control - @Politico

House Speaker Boehner says Republicans will not offer Saturday radio address to cede time to President Obama - @AP
who does that??

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/politicians-respond-to-connecticut-school-shooting

You just know its coming from the Godless heathens that HATE the Lord Jesus...

Gal_6:7  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK4Z_ni_zOc

My Lord WAS there, He was there with each and every child, He held their hand, He cradled their small bodies, He cried for each and every one of them, and He carried them into a resting place that He prepared.

Mat_19:14  But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat_18:6  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Like we discussed here, it probably won't be the case that the government will be breaking down everyone's doors to forcefully take away their guns. Ultimately, when things really start to get bad(ie-economically), that's when gun owners could get very tempted to turn in their guns for a bowl of pottage.

It's alot like how alot of churches for the last 3 decades threw out the KJV - it wasn't the IRS that forced it out of their hands, it was the NWO book publishing minions throwing out alot of these beautiful-looking, albeit blasphemous perverted bibles(not just the NIV and NKJV, but all of these "study bibles" by "scholars" like John MacArthur, who denies Jesus's blood saves us). IOW, it was the lusts of their flesh and eyes that drew their hearts away from the KJV.

OR - it could be the case that the Illuminati is using this to start a civil war in this country - you have the angry gun control advocates on one end, and the gun rights owners in fear on the other end...

Anyhow, have no fear, God is in control.

1John 4:18  There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

1John 2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Also, notice noone's talking about the "fiscal cliff" now...

Just saying.

BTW, thank you Mark, for separating this in its own thread! :)

MURDOCH: 'When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons?'...

This is Rupert Murdoch, Satan worshiping sorry excuse for a human. You would think the head a the worlds biggest media monopoly would already know that Automatic weapons ARE already banned in the US.  

But what do you expect from the PUBLISHER of the SATANIC BIBLE!!!

And the NIV to boot - just saying. Also, watch out for John MacArthur too. While he seems to be widely respected by some of the end times discernment ministries AND some of the end times watchers(especially his exposes he does on the Emergent Church), he too has some of his his "study bibles" and books published by Zonderfan.

Also, remember over 13 years ago when Columbine happened, and almost immediately alot of these pro-family/media watchdog groups were jumping all over the harms of violence in the media(The Matrix and the video game Doom were the ones they were calling out). Sure, I probably would have done the same thing too, but nonetheless...where are John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, Lynne Cheney, and all of these pro-family groups NOW? ::)

didnt you get the message? music and Hollywood doesn't hurt anyone.

I know, pretty much they were playing out the Hegelian Dialect then(media watchdog groups vs. gun control advocate groups). It wasn't too long after that when they starting releasing alot of these subtle, supernatural witcraft movies(ie-The Sixth Sense was released only months later, and became one of the biggest box office sleeper hits ever - very little buzz before its release, but ended up packing theaters). And you know the rest of the story from there(ie-the Harry Potter, Twilight, etc movies getting released almost every year).

As for this Lt. Col. Dave Grossman guy - he just came out of nowhere. He was profiled on "60 Minutes", he flew around the country lecturing to PTA meetings 6 days a week and gave radio interviews, and of course he *claimed* to be a Christian. While he spoke some truth about violence in the media, at the same time he knew how to stir up parents's emotions(stirring up emotions - Jesuits are very good at this).

i dont know if Your being serious or not but i would say that there are definitely spirits behind secular music and Hollywood and these spirits encourage people to watch n listen to these things, it is a counterfeit to hymns and preaching the Gospel, i'm not saying Your comment was void just clarifying this thats all.

He was being sarcastic. ;)

The unnerving thing about this shooting, firstly, it was little kids. As shocking as that is, it doesn't surprise me they'd go to these extremes to get what they want. They will do whatever it takes to jolt a response out of the public and get them fired up on a topic, like gun control, and to distract the public from other major issues currently going on, like the fiscal cliff thing.

And Terrel Suggs, didn't have his guns taken, he voluntarily gave them up.

Also, OJ did not kill those people with a knife. OJ didn't kill anybody. Somebody used a knife on them, but it wasn't OJ. He may have some issues but I don't believe for a second he did it. I believe he was set up because the case was an easy, "The black guy did it". If you remember, that detective Mark Furman was singled out as being a racist, but they blew it off and tried to ignore it.

The wife and I watch a lot of the crime shows about real cases, and from what I've seen on those shows about real murder cases, only the really sick homicidal manics serial killer types commit such gruesome murders with such rage. And it's actually rather rare a killer goes to such extreme to do so much damage as they did to Simpson and Goldman. Your "average" domestic killing doesn't end up like that did at all. It's a crime of passion in the moment, a lashing out and it's quick, usually a gun shot or a knife stabbing that happens to kill the person. What happened with the Simpson murder doesn't fit a crime of passion between ex-mates. That killing was full on murderous rage. If they had just broke up, MAYBE he might lose it. but they had been separated for some time. Ron Goldman was just an employee at a restaurant, an innocent by-stander of sorts, in the wrong place and the wrong time.

Anyway, I get your point.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-world-wonder-conn-shooting-motive-080207412.html

12/15/12

Police, world wonder about Conn. shooting motive

NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — The massacre of 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school elicited horror and soul-searching around the world even as it raised more basic questions about why the gunman, a 20-year-old described as brilliant but remote, was driven to such a crime and how he chose his victims.
 
Investigators were trying to learn more about Adam Lanza and questioned his older brother, who was not believed to have been involved in the rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary. Police shed no light on the motive for the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history.
 
In tight-knit Newtown on Friday night, hundreds of people packed St. Rose of Lima Church and stood outside in a vigil for the 28 dead — 20 children and six adults at the school, the gunman's mother at home, and the gunman himself, who committed suicide. People held hands, lit candles and sang "Silent Night."
 
"These 20 children were just beautiful, beautiful children," Monsignor Robert Weiss said. "These 20 children lit up this community better than all these Christmas lights we have. ... There are a lot brighter stars up there tonight because of these kids."
 
Lanza is believed to have suffered from a personality disorder and lived with his mother, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation.
 
Lanza shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, drove to the school in her car with at least three of her guns, and opened fire in two classrooms around 9:30 a.m. Friday, law enforcement officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
 
A custodian ran through the halls, warning of a gunman, and someone switched on the intercom, perhaps saving many lives by letting them hear the chaos in the school office, a teacher said. Teachers locked their doors and ordered children to huddle in a corner, duck under their desks or hide in closets as shots reverberated through the building.
 
The well-liked principal, Dawn Hochsprung, was believed to be among the dead. A woman who worked at the school was wounded.
 
Maryann Jacob, a clerk in the school library, was in there with 18 fourth-graders when they heard a commotion and gunfire outside the room. She had the youngsters crawl into a storage room, and they locked the door and barricaded it with a file cabinet. There happened to be materials for coloring, "so we set them up with paper and crayons."
 
After what she guessed was about an hour, officers came to the door and knocked, but those inside couldn't be sure it was the police.
 
"One of them slid his badge under the door, and they called and said, 'It's OK, it's the police,'" she said.
 
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Lanza attended the school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to it. It was not clear whether he held a job.
 
At least one parent said Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher at the school. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.
 
Lanza's older brother, 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, of Hoboken, N.J., was questioned, and investigators searched his computers and phone records, but he told law enforcement he had not been in touch with his brother since about 2010.
 
For about two hours late Friday and early Saturday, clergy members and emergency vehicles moved steadily to and from the school. The state medical examiner's office said bodies of the victims would be taken there for autopsies.
 
The gunman entered the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade school through the front door, and authorities are looking into the possibility that he shattered glass next to it to get in, police said.
 
He took three guns into the school — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both semiautomatic pistols, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, according to an official who was not authorized to discuss information with reporters and spoke on the condition of anonymity. The weapons were registered to his slain mother.
 
Lanza and his mother lived in a well-to-do part of prosperous Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City, where neighbors are doctors or hold white-collar positions at companies such as General Electric, Pepsi and IBM.
 
His parents filed for divorce in 2008, according to court records. His father, Peter Lanza, lives in Stamford, Conn., and works as a tax director for GE.
 
The gunman's aunt Marsha Lanza, of Crystal Lake, Ill., said her nephew was raised by kind, nurturing parents who would not have hesitated to seek mental help for him if he needed it.
 
"Nancy wasn't one to deny reality," Marsha Lanza said, adding her husband had seen Adam as recently as June and recalled nothing out of the ordinary.
 
Catherine Urso, of Newtown, said her college-age son knew the killer. "He just said he was very thin, very remote and was one of the goths," she said.
 
Lanza attended Newtown High School, and several news clippings from recent years mention his name among the honor roll students.
 
Joshua Milas, who graduated from Newtown High in 2009 and belonged to the school technology club with him, said that Lanza was generally a happy person but that he hadn't seen him in a few years.
 
"We would hang out, and he was a good kid. He was smart," Joshua Milas said. "He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius."
 
The mass shooting is one of the deadliest in U.S. history, and among school attacks is second in victims only to the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, which left 33 people dead, including the gunman. Reaction was swift and emotional in Newtown, a picturesque New England community of 27,000 people, as well as across the country and around the world.
 
"It has to stop, these senseless deaths," said Frank DeAngelis, principal of Colorado's Columbine High School, where a massacre in 1999 killed 15 people.
 
In Washington, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence organized a vigil at the White House, with some protesters chanting, "Today IS the day" to take steps to curb gun violence. In New York's Times Square, a few dozen people held tea lights in plastic cups, with one woman holding a sign that read: "Take a moment and candle to remember the victims of the Newtown shooting."
 
President Barack Obama's comments on the tragedy amounted to one of the most outwardly emotional moments of his presidency.
 
"The majority of those who died were children — beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old," Obama said at a White House news briefing. He paused for several seconds to keep his composure as he teared up and wiped an eye. Nearby, two aides cried and held hands.
 
Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard described the attack as a "senseless and incomprehensible act of evil."
 
"Like President Obama and his fellow Americans, our hearts too are broken," Gillard said in a statement.
 
In Japan, where guns are severely restricted and there are extremely few gun-related crimes, the attack led the news two days before parliamentary elections. In China, which has seen several knife rampages at schools in recent years, the attack quickly consumed public discussion.
 
In Newtown, Robert Licata said his 6-year-old son was in class when the gunman burst in and shot the teacher. "That's when my son grabbed a bunch of his friends and ran out the door," he said. "He was very brave. He waited for his friends."
 
He said the shooter didn't utter a word.
 
Kaitlin Roig, a teacher at the school, said she implored her students to be quiet.
 
"I told them we had to be absolutely quiet. Because I was just so afraid if he did come in, then he would hear us and just start shooting the door. I said we have to be absolutely quiet. And I said there are bad guys out there now and we need to wait for the good guys to come get us out," Roig told ABC News.
 
"If they started crying, I would take their face and say, 'It's going to be OK. Show me your smile,'" she said. "They said, 'We want to go home for Christmas. Yes, yeah. I just want to hug my mom.' Things like that, that were just heartbreaking."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gun-control-petition-clears-white-house-response-threshold-232717126--politics.html

12/14/12

A petition calling on President Barack Obama to push for new gun control laws in the aftermath of the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., has cleared the 25,000-signature threshold required to obtain a formal White House response.
 
The measure, filed in response to Friday's massacre, urges Obama to "immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress."
 
"The goal of this petition is to force the Obama Administration to produce legislation that limits access to guns," it says. "While a national dialogue is critical, laws are the only means in which we can reduce the number of people murdered in gun related deaths."
 
Obama vowed on Friday to "take meaningful action, regardless of the politics," to prevent future tragedies like the shooting massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
 
"Our hearts are broken today," Obama said in a brief statement in the White House briefing room, frequently pausing to wipe tears from his eyes. "The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. They had their entire lives ahead of them: birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. Among the fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams."
 
His comments came shortly after White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters that "today's not the day" to push for gun control laws.

The petitioners plainly disagreed.
 
"Powerful lobbying groups allow the ownership of guns to reach beyond the Constitution's intended purpose of the right to bear arms. Therefore, Congress must act on what is stated law, and face the reality that access to firearms reaches beyond what the Second Amendment intends to achieve," the measure urges.
 
"The signatures on this petition represent a collective demand for a bipartisan discussion resulting in a set of laws that regulates how a citizen obtains a gun," it says.
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Father of Alleged Connecticut Shooter is VP of GE Capital According to Reports
15 December 2012, by Jack Blood (Deadline Live)
http://deadlinelive.info/2012/12/15/father-of-alleged-connecticut-shooter-is-vp-of-ge-capital-according-to-reports/#respond

Echos of the Batman Massacre – James Holmes father a high priest of computer economics at FICO – Allegedly investigating the LIBOR scandal which has indeed faded after the Aurora shootings…

GE Capital is onwed by GE – yeah THAT GE that operates outside of the law!

Founded by JP Morgan to corner the market in electricity (stolen Tesla patents) – GE is now a media – military industrial complex kingpin!

Morgan Stanley has also been implicated in the LIBOR Scandal! Lanza’s father was “questioned by Police”

According to Yahoo news, the alleged shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, Adam Lanza, is the son of Vice President of GE Capital, Peter Lanza.

Peter Lanza is also a partner at Ernst & Young, and major accounting firm. The older brother, Ryan Lanza, is also reported to be employed at Ernst & Young.

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam’s older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father’s footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice.

He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.

Dem. lawmaker: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting

A veteran Democratic lawmaker believes the nation will go along with stronger gun control laws if President Obama “exploits” the Newtown, Conn., tragedy and nudges Congress to action.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who represents portions of New York City, said he was encouraged by Mr. Obama’s statement on Friday afternoon that the mass shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 young children, requires “meaningful action” by Congress, but hopes those words turn into concrete legislation.

“These incidents, these horrible, horrible incidents … are happening more and more frequently. And they will continue to happen more and more frequently until someone with the bully pulpit, and that means the president, takes leadership and pushes Congress,” Mr. Nadler said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show” with Ed Schultz.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/14/dem-lawmaker-get-gun-control-obama-must-exploit-sh/#ixzz2FAJ8ikcy
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Reports: Nancy Lanza Wasn’t A Teacher At Sandy Hook Elementary
by Anjali Sareen | 11:08 am, December 15th, 2012
http://www.mediaite.com/online/reports-nancy-lanza-wasnt-a-teacher-at-sandy-hook-elementary/

Despite earlier reports that Nancy Lanza, mother of shooter Adam Lanza, was a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School, new details are emerging that suggest otherwise. CNN, The Wall Street Journal, and several other news outlets are reporting now that Nancy Lanza may not have had any connection to the school where the shootings took place.

Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, told CNN that Lanza was not a teacher there.

Lillian Bittman, a former school board official, said “no one has heard” of Lanza and that “teachers don’t know her.” Talking Points Memo reports that Lanza is not listed on the Newton School District Website. TPM also notes the origin of the misinformation may have been an AP story which quoted law enforcement officials “speaking on the condition of anonymity” about Lanza’s possible connection to school.

Other sources, such as The New York Times and Washington Post, each still have stories claiming Lanza was a teacher Sandy Hook Elementary.

At this time, the Sandy Hook Police have not commented on Nancy Lanza’s possible involvement in the school, if any.

i'm hoping to get the real truth about this tragedy, what the motivations were for this killer because it seems to me that some things are hard to believe. And they will use this event to bring in tougher gun controls, that is possible.

Honestly, I haven't been keeping up too much with this b/c there's so much CONFUSION coming out. One minute it's this way, the other minute it's that way, etc, etc.

But I'll say this again, there's NO WAY this shooter had autism, b/c while autism people have angry and violent tendencies, their angry and violent tendencies go NO FURTHER than throwing things around and getting physical. Otherwise, autism people are SCARED of LOUD NOISES, which would pretty much rule them out in terms of getting near a gun with a 10 foot pole. So why would this guy have no problems but shoot a gun with many rounds of ammunition?

Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger son's school killing spree? Friends say she believed world was on edge of collapse >:(

9/16/12

 Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns
 She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son
 Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles
 Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms
 Fiercely protective mother insisted he was never left on his own
 Fellow school pupils described him as very bright, a genius, but painfully shy
 Moved to Sandy Hook in around 1998 but Mrs Lanza and husband divorced


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http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/16/ct-shooter-adam-lanza-mother-gun-obsession-gun-range/ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/16/ct-shooter-adam-lanza-mother-gun-obsession-gun-range/)
CT SHOOTER ADAM LANZA Learned How to Fire Guns... From His Mom
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Mass murderer Adam Lanza learned everything he knew about firearms ... from his mother.

Adam's mom, Nancy Lanza -- who was Adam's first victim -- was an avid gun collector who reportedly bragged to friends and neighbors about her weapons and took her son to several firing ranges to teach him how to shoot ... in the months leading up to his deadly assault.

One of Nancy's neighbors, Dan Holmes, told the NY Post ... Nancy was a gun enthusiast ... an avid collector ... often taking her kids to the gun range, infusing them with her obsession with firearms.

Adam used several different guns when he opened fire on Sandy Hook Elementary school earlier this week ... all of which were registered to his mother.

http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/nancy_lanza_was_a_prepper/ (http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/nancy_lanza_was_a_prepper/)

Nancy Lanza was a “prepper”
Adam Lanza's mother reportedly belonged to a survivalist movement and feared she was "losing" her son

The Telegraph reports that Nancy Lanza was a “prepper” a part of the survivalist movement that we’re sure to hear more about in coming days. According to the paper:

Nancy Lanza, whose gun collection was raided by her son Adam for Friday’s massacre at Sandy Hook school, was part of the “prepper” movement, which urges readiness for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons.

“She prepared for the worst,” her sister-in-law Marsha Lanza told reporters. “Last time we visited her in person, we talked about prepping – are you ready for what could happen down the line, when the economy collapses?”

It also emerged that Mrs Lanza had spoken of her fears less than a week before the attack that she was “losing” her son. “She said it was getting worse. She was having trouble reaching him,” said a friend of Mrs Lanza who did not want to be named.

Alex Halperin is news editor at Salon. You can follow him on Twitter @alexhalperin.

Society Is Crumbling Right In Front Of Our Eyes And Banning Guns Won't Help

What in the world is happening to America?  I have written many articles about how society is crumbling right in front of our eyes, but now it is getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to go to school or go shopping at the mall.  Just consider what has happened over the past week.  Adam Lanza savagely murdered 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.  42-year-old Marcus Gurrola threatened to shoot innocent shoppers and fired off more than 50 rounds in the parking lot of Fashion Island Mall in Newport Beach, California.  After police apprehended him, he told them that he "was unhappy with life".  Earlier in the week, a crazy man wearing a hockey mask and armed with a semi-automatic rifle opened fire on the second floor of a mall in Happy Valley, Oregon.  He killed two people and injured a third.  On Saturday morning, a lone gunman walked into a hospital in Alabama and opened fire.  He killed one police officer and two hospital employees before being gunned down by another police officer.  So have we now reached the point where every school, every mall and every hospital is going to need armed security?  How will society function efficiently if everyone is constantly worried about mass murderers?

In response to the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, many in the mainstream media are suggesting that much stricter gun laws are the obvious solution.

After all, if we get rid of all the guns these crazy people won't be able to commit these kinds of crimes, right?

Unfortunately, that is not how it works.  The criminals don't obey gun control laws.  Banning guns will just take them out of the hands of law-abiding American citizens that just want to protect their own families.

Adam Lanza didn't let the strict gun control laws up in Connecticut stop him from what he wanted to do.  Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, and Adam Lanza broke at least three of them.

However, if there had been some armed security officers or some armed teachers at that school, they may have had a chance to protect those dear little children from being brutally gunned down.

If gun control was really the solution to our problems, then cities that have implemented strict gun control laws should be some of the safest in the entire country.

But sadly, just the opposite is true.

For example, Chicago has very strict gun laws.  But 10 people were shot in the city of Chicago on Friday alone.  Chicago is now considered to be "the deadliest global city", and the murder rate in Chicago is about 25 percent higher than it was last year.

So has gun control turned Chicago into a utopia?

Of course not.

And it won't solve our problems on a national level either.

You can find more statistics about the futility of gun control right here.

Well, how would things be if we did just the opposite and everyone had a gun?

Would gun crime go through the roof?

That is what liberals were warning of when the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun.  But instead of disaster, the results turned out to be very impressive...

    In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of “Wild West” showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

    The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

    Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

When criminals know that everyone has guns, they are much less likely to try something.  And often armed citizens are able to prevent potential mass murderers from doing more damage.  You can find several examples of this right here.

But of course most of our politicians are not interested in common sense.  Instead, they are obsessed with the idea that gun control will make our country "safe" again.

Senator Diane Feinstein says that she is ready to introduce a strict gun control bill in January that will "ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession" of many types of firearms.

Will such a law keep the criminals from getting guns?

No way.  Just look at what is happening with the cartels down in Mexico.  The criminals are always able to get guns.

If our "leaders" were really interested in stopping these mass murders, they would take a look at the role that mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs play in these incidents.  If you look at the mass murders that have occurred over the past several decades, in the vast majority of them the murderer had been using mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs...

    The Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP) has raised concerns about severe acts of violence as side effects of anti-psychotic and antidepressant drugs not only on individuals but on society as well.

    Just a month ago PRWeb described drug induced violence as "medicine's best kept secret."

    And the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International (CCHRI) is calling for a federal investigation on its web page which links no less than 14 mass killings to the use of psychiatric drugs such as Prozac and Paxil.

And guess what?

According to the Washington Post, one neighbor says that Adam Lanza was "on medication".

But will our politicians ever consider a law against such drugs?

Of course not.  The big corporations that produce those drugs give mountains of money to the campaign funds of our politicians.

So the focus of the debate will remain on guns.

And a lot of liberals would have us believe that our society could be transformed into some type of "utopia" if we could just get rid of all the guns.

Unfortunately, that is simply not true.  Our society is in an advanced state of moral decay, and this moral decay is manifesting in our society in thousands of different ways.  The corruption runs from the highest levels of society all the way down to the lowest.

For those that believe that gun control would somehow "fix America", I have some questions for you...

Down in Texas, one set of parents kept their 10-year-old son locked in a bedroom and only fed him bread and water for months.  Eventually he died of starvation and they dumped his body in a creek.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A pastor in north Texas was recently assaulted by an enraged man who beat him to death with an electric guitar.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Police up in New Jersey say that a man kept his girlfriend padlocked in a bedroom for most of the last 10 years.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A 31-year-old man up in Canada was found guilty of raping an 8-year-old girl, breaking 16 of her bones and smashing her in the face with a hammer.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

According to the FBI, a New York City police officer is being accused of “planning the kidnap, ****, torture and cannibilization of a number of women”.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A Secret Service officer that had been assigned to protect Joe Biden’s residence has been charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Over in Texas, a very sick 29-year-old man stabbed his girlfriend to death and then burned his one-year-old baby alive because she had gone to court and filed for child support.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Over in Utah, a 21-year-old man is accused of stabbing his grandmother 111 times and then removing her organs with a knife.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

There are more than 3 million reports of child abuse in the United States every single year.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

An average of five children die as a result of child abuse in the United States every single day.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

The United States has the highest child abuse death rate on the entire globe.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

It is estimated that 500,000 Americans that will be born this year will be sexually abused before they turn 18.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

In the United States today, it is estimated that one out of every four girls is sexually abused before they become adults.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

If there was a way to take all of the guns away from all of the criminals, I would be all in favor of it.  Unfortunately, no government on the planet has been able to do that.

Instead, we have seen that criminals thrive whenever gun bans are instituted and the guns are taken away from law-abiding citizens.

But the bottom line is that our social decay will not be solved either by more guns or less guns.

Our social decay is the result of decades of bad decisions.  We have pushed morality out of our schools, out of government and out of almost every aspect of public life.  Now we are experiencing the bitter fruit of those decisions.

And this is not a problem that our government is going to be able to fix.  Violent crime increased by 18 percent in 2011, and this is just the beginning.

As our economy gets even worse, the rot and decay that have been eating away the foundations of America are going to become even more evident.  The number of Americans living in poverty grows with each passing day, and millions upon millions of people are becoming very desperate.

Desperate people do desperate things, and crime, rioting and looting are going to become commonplace in the United States in the years ahead.

So you can pretend that the government is going to be able to keep our society from crumbling all you want, but that is not going to help you when a gang of desperate criminals has invaded your home and is attacking your family.

We definitely should mourn for the victims in Connecticut.  It was a horrible national tragedy.

But this is just the beginning.  The fabric of our society is coming apart at the seams.  The feeling of safety and security that we all used to take for granted has been shattered, and the streets of America are going to steadily become much more dangerous.

I hope that you are ready.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/society-is-crumbling-right-in-front-of-our-eyes-and-banning-guns-wont-help

yes... the War on Preppers. Cant have those people who can survive WITH OUT the aid of the government out running around.

More Than 2000 Children Are Murdered In The United States Every Single Day

Mass murderer Adam Lanza is yet another example of how society is collapsing right in front of our eyes.  When I was young, I never imagined that someone would come into my school and try to kill me.  But now any school that does not have armed security is being incredibly foolish.  The mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut on Friday was the second worst school shooting in modern American history.  All of the children that Adam Lanza savagely murdered were either 6 or 7 years old.  It was such a horrific crime that even the mainstream media is using words that they would not normally use such as “evil”, “wicked” and “demonic”.  There does not seem to be any penalty that would be too harsh for what Adam Lanza did.  In this type of case, the death penalty seems way too kind.  Unfortunately, Adam Lanza is dead so he will never have his day in court.  Instead, the rest of us are left trying to figure out why this happened and what to do about it.  Sadly, there will inevitably be more Adam Lanzas.  We live in a blood-soaked society that loves and glorifies violence.  And I am not just talking about video games and movies.  The horrible truth is that more than 2000 children are murdered in the United States every single day in our abortion clinics, and most of our “leaders” actually approve of this practice.  When you add in all other forms of abortion such as “morning after pills”, the number is closer to 3000 children a day.  Overall, more than 50 million babies have been killed in America since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.  We have pushed God and morality out of our schools and out of public life, and instead we have taught our young people that the slaughter of millions of babies is no big deal.  Is it any wonder that they are so screwed up?  We have raised up a generation of young people without teaching them moral values, and now we are experiencing the bitter fruit of our foolishness.

But instead of focusing on what is really causing all of this, the mainstream media seems absolutely obsessed with the idea that more gun control laws would solve our problems.

Oh really?

Adam Lanza broke at least three Connecticut gun control laws.  Would adding a bunch more really make a difference?

Just take a look at the city of Chicago.

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the entire nation.  The intent was to greatly reduce gun crime in the city.  But instead, Chicago is now being called “the deadliest global city“, and the murder rate is running about 25 percent higher than last year.

Well, what about in other areas of the world?

Down in Australia, gun murders rose by about 19 percent and armed robberies rose by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted.

Ouch.

The UK has some of the strictest gun laws on the planet.  So how has that worked out?  Well, gun crime in England and Wales rose by 89 percent over the course of a decade…

    The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year  -  a rise of 89 per cent.

Banning guns is not going to solve anything.  The criminals are always going to be able to get guns.  But banning guns will take them away from hard working American citizens that just want to have a chance to defend themselves as our society crumbles all around us.

Are you ready for some more statistics?  The following is from an article by my friend J. Vanne in which he detailed how guns have helped to reduce crime in many areas of the United States…

    As a matter of fact, Gun Owners of America, cites statistics indicating guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense, or around 80 times a day (other statistics estimate this number could range as low as 1.5 million, but either number is a lot!). This includes 200,000 women a year using guns to defend themselves against sexual abuse. As a matter of fact, as of 2008, armed citizens killed more violent bad guys than the police (1,527 vs. 606).

    It appears George Washington had it right, when he said “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.”

    What about concealed carry?

    Statistics from the recent past show states that passed concealed carry reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5% and robbery by 3%. Florida, which passed concealed carry in 1987, saw its higher than average homicide rate drop 52% during the following 15 years after passage, to below the national average.

But if you listen to the mainstream media, the only solution to this crisis is more gun control laws.

As if psychos that somehow are not able to obtain a gun cannot find other ways to attack people.  For example, just the other day a very sick Chinese man with a knife attacked 22 children at a school in China.

So should we ban all knives too?

One thing that the mainstream media is not talking about is the role that pharmaceutical drugs have played in almost every single mass murder in the United States in recent years.  The following is from a recent Natural News article…

    In mass shootings involving guns and mind-altering medications, politicians immediately seek to blame guns but never the medication. Nearly every mass shooting that has taken place in America over the last two decades has a link to psychiatric medication, and it appears today’s tragic event is headed in the same direction.

    According to ABC News, Adam Lanza, the alleged shooter, has been labeled as having “mental illness” and a “personality disorder.” These are precisely the words typically heard in a person who is being “treated” with mind-altering psychiatric drugs.

    One of the most common side effects of psychiatric drugs is violent outbursts and thoughts of suicide.

And guess what?

According to the Washington Post, one neighbor is telling the press that Adam Lanza was “on medication”.

Is anyone surprised?

But of course the mainstream media will never call for a ban on mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs.  The companies that produce those drugs spend billions of dollars to advertise on their networks.

And as horrific as this crisis was, let us not be blind to what is happening all around us every day.

Adam Lanza murdered 20 children in cold blood and that was a crime for which there are not words strong enough to denounce it.

However, more than 100 times as many children are killed in the abortion clinics of America every single day, and most of our politicians stand up and publicly defend the slaughter of those innocents.

We have covered America with the blood of our own children, and yet hardly anyone speaks up about this anymore.

In a previous article about abortion, I listed 19 facts about the mass murder that is happening in abortion clinics all across the United States…

#1 There have been more than 53 million abortions performed in the United States since Roe v. Wade was decided back in 1973.

#2 When you total up all forms of abortion, including those caused by the abortion drug RU 486, the grand total comes to more than a million abortions performed in the United States every single year.

#3 The number of American babies killed by abortion each year is roughly equal to the number of U.S. military deaths that have occurred in all of the wars that the United States has ever been involved in combined.

#4 Approximately 3,000 Americans lost their lives as a result of the destruction of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11.  Every single day, more than 3,000 American babies are killed by abortion.

#5 It has been reported that a staggering 41 percent of all New York City pregnancies end in abortion.

#6 According to Pastor Clenard Childress, approximately 52 percent of all African-American pregnancies now end in abortion.

#7 One very shocking study found that 86 percent of all abortions are done for the sake of convenience.

#8 According to the Guttmacher Institute, the average cost of a first trimester abortion at the ten week mark is $451.

#9 The average cost of a vaginal birth with no complications in the United States is now over $9,000.

#10 A Department of Homeland Security report that was released in January 2012 says that if you are “anti-abortion”, you are a potential terrorist.  Unfortunately, there have also been other government reports that have also identified “anti-abortion” protesters as potential threats.

#11 A while back one Philadelphia abortionist was charged with killing seven babies that were born alive, but witnesses claim that he actually slaughtered hundreds “of living, breathing newborn children by severing their spinal cords or slitting their necks.”

#12 Some abortion clinics have been caught selling aborted baby parts to medical researchers.

#13 Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger once said the following….

    “The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

#14 In a 1922 book entitled “Woman, Morality, and Birth Control”, Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger wrote the following….

    “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”

#15 Planned Parenthood performs more than 300,000 abortions every single year.

#16 Planned Parenthood specifically targets the poor.  A staggering 72 percent of Planned Parenthood’s “customers” have incomes that are either equal to or beneath 150 percent of the federal poverty level.

#17 There are 30 Planned Parenthood executives that make more than $200,000 a year.  A few of them make more than $300,000 a year.

#18 Planned Parenthood received more than 487 million dollars from the federal government during 2010.

#19 The following is one description of the five steps of a partial birth abortion….

    1) Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s legs with forceps.

    2) The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.

    3) The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.

    4) The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the skull.

    5) The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.

So yes, we should deeply mourn for the 20 dear children that were ruthlessly gunned down in Connecticut.

But let us also deeply mourn for the more than 50,000,000 children that have been purposely slaughtered in this country since 1973.

There is no way that America will survive if we continue to murder our own children like this.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/more-than-2000-children-are-murdered-in-the-united-states-every-single-day

Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 7:47PM
Today's Show:  THE CONNECTICUT TRAGEDY

Chris discusses the terrible shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut and the impact, socially and politically in the wake of this horrible crime. Are left wing pundits and politicians using the event to attack the Second Amendment? Would more gun control have prevented the killings? A similar tragedy happened in England in 1996, and as a result, the UK put a ban on hand guns -- what has been the result? Have firearms crimes diminished? Or gone through the roof?

http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_CONNECTICUT.TRAGEDY_12.17.12.mp3

Yeah - my local paper(Dallas Morning News) almost always has Dallas Cowboys coverage(during the NFL season, that is) on the front page every Monday morning(win or lose). Nope, not today, but instead just a mere ticker headline at the very top of the page(despite their thrilling overtime win over the Steelers).

Instead, the Connecticut shooting made front page again today, where one of the headlines was pushing gun control(and the DMN leans "conservative", FWIW).

Yeah, the NWO minions are pulling every stop to push gun control now, especially after Obama's "re-election".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr2SHssCaWM

Connecticut school district in lockdown following report of suspicious person in area

12/17/12

DEVELOPING: Schools in Ridgefield, Conn., are on lockdown following reports of a "suspicious person" possibly armed with a rifle.
 
Ridgefield is approximately 19 miles from Newtown, where 20 children and six adults were killed Friday when a gunman opened fire at Sandy Hook elementary school.
 
Ridgefield Superintendent Deborah Low released a statement Monday saying that schools in the district "have been put into lockdown."
 
"Due to a report of a possibly suspicious person in the Branchville Train Station area, all schools have been put into lockdown. Branchville Elementary school buses have been diverted to East Ridge Middle School and BES students are in the auditorium," Low said.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/17/connecticut-school-district-in-lockdown-following-report-suspicious-person-in/#ixzz2FK3zq59H

MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Talks Gun ‘Confiscation’



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dan-gainor/2012/12/16/msnbc-s-ed-schultz-talks-gun-confiscation#ixzz2FKTZBKmw

CNN's Lemon Goes on Anti-Gun Tirade, Calls for Assault Weapons Ban

CNN anchor Don Lemon went on an anti-gun rant on Monday morning and called for an assault weapons ban. Lemon is only the latest CNN anchor to abandon journalistic standards and push for gun control.

"We need to get guns and bullets and automatic weapons off the streets. They should only be available to police officers and to hunt al-Qaeda and the Taliban and not hunt elementary school children," an emotional Lemon appealed. [Video below the break. Audio here.]


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2012/12/17/cnns-lemon-goes-anti-gun-tirade-calls-assault-weapons-ban#ixzz2FKU8thg3

http://www.infowars.com/americans-turn-in-guns-after-school-massacre/

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 17, 2012

Law-abiding Americans across the country are turning in their guns as part of police buyback programs in response to the school massacre in Connecticut – a shocking illustration of how citizens are choosing to disarm themselves without the need for gun control legislation.

Citizens in Brooklyn, San Francisco, Oakland, Evanston, Ill, and Baltimore all lined up around the block to sell their guns back to police as a gesture in response to the Sandy Hook shooting on Friday.

Mt. Ollie Baptist Church in Brownsville and St. Peters Lutheran Church in Cypress Hills, Brooklyn opened their doors for people to anonymously turn in their guns on Saturday, with the program netting 134 weapons, most of which were revolvers and pistols.

In another buyback event at Prince George’s County, 150 guns were handed in for cash, while a further 160 were exchanged for gift cards at St. Mark’s United Methodist Church in Laurel, MD.

more

http://news.yahoo.com/nra-goes-silent-connecticut-school-shooting-080658189.html

12/18/12

Where is the NRA?

The nation's largest gun-rights organization — typically outspoken about its positions even after shooting deaths — has gone all but silent since last week's rampage at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that left 26 people dead, including 20 children.

Its Facebook page has disappeared. It has posted no tweets. It makes no mention of the shooting on its website. None of its leaders hit the media circuit Sunday to promote its support of the Second Amendment right to bear arms as the nation mourns the latest shooting victims and opens a new debate over gun restrictions. On Monday, the NRA offered no rebuttal as 300 anti-gun protesters marched to its Capitol Hill office.

After previous mass shootings — such as in Oregon and Wisconsin — the group was quick to both send its condolences and defend gun owners' constitutional rights, popular among millions of Americans. There's no indication that the National Rifle Association's silence this time is a signal that a change in its ardent opposition to gun restrictions is imminent. Nor has there been any explanation for its absence from the debate thus far.

The NRA, which claims 4.3 million members and is based in Northern Virginia, did not return telephone messages Monday seeking comment.

Its deep-pocketed efforts to oppose gun control laws have proven resilient. Firearms are in a third or more of U.S. households and suspicion runs deep of an overbearing government whenever it proposes expanding federal authority. The argument of gun-rights advocates that firearm ownership is a bedrock freedom as well as a necessary option for self-defense has proved persuasive enough to dampen political enthusiasm for substantial change.

Seldom has the NRA gone so long after a fatal shooting without a public presence. It resumed tweeting just one day after a gunman killed two people and then himself at an Oregon shopping mall last Tuesday, and one day after six people were fatally shot at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in August.

The Connecticut shootings occurred three days after the incident in Oregon.

"The NRA's probably doing a good thing by laying low," said Hogan Gidley, a Republican strategist and gun owner who was a top aide to Rick Santorum's presidential bid. "Often after these tragedies, so many look to lay blame on someone, and the NRA is an easy whipping boy for this."

Indeed, since the Connecticut shootings, the NRA has been taunted and criticized at length, vitriol that may have prompted the shuttering of its Facebook page just a day after the association boasted about reaching 1.7 million supporters on the social media network.

Twitter users have been relentless, protesting the organization with hashtags like NoWayNRA.

The NRA has not responded to them. Its last tweets, sent Friday, offered a chance to win an auto flashlight.

Offline, some 300 protesters gathered outside the NRA's lobbying headquarters on Capitol Hill on Monday chanting, "Shame on the NRA" and waving signs declaring "Kill the 2nd Amendment, Not Children" and "Protect Children, Not Guns."

"I had to be here," said Gayle Fleming, 65, a real estate agent from Arlington, Va., saying she was attending her first anti-gun rally. "These were 20 babies. I will be at every rally, will sign every letter, call every congressman going forward."

Retired attorney Kathleen Buffon of Chevy Chase, Md., reflected on earlier mass shootings, saying: "All of the other ones, they've been terrible. This is the last straw. These were children."

"The NRA has had a stranglehold on Congress," she added as she marched toward the NRA's unmarked office. "It's time to call them out."

The group's reach on Capitol Hill is wide as it wields its deep pockets to defeat lawmakers, many of them Democrats, who push for restrictions on gun ownership.

The NRA outspent its chief opponent by a 73-1 margin to lobby the outgoing Congress, according to the nonpartisan Sunlight Foundation, which tracks such spending. It spent more than 4,000 times its biggest opponents during the 2012 election.

In all, the group spent at least $24 million this election cycle — $16.8 million through its political action committee and nearly $7.5 million through its affiliated Institute for Legislative Action. Its chief foil, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, spent just $5,816.

On direct lobbying, the NRA also was mismatched. Through July 1, the NRA spent $4.4 million to lobby Congress to the Brady Campaign's $60,000.

Honestly, don't know what to make of this. No, not saying this whole thing was staged like a Broadway Show, but nonetheless this news clip looks very bizarre... :-\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w

Not much there really. Could be this, could be that.

I do know that many people tend to smile when they are nervous, but the smile is no indication that they find anything humorous. His apparent preparation to speak too could be just nerves. I'd like to see how many cameras were in his face when he spoke.

One might make a case that it looked like he was "getting into character". I don't see enough from the clip to go that far.

Apparently, the name Sandy has a meaning(this web site posted isn't the only web site source saying this)...

http://www.babynology.com/meaning-sandy-f1.html

Pet form, originally Scottish, of the Greek name Alexander. Meaning is "defender of mankind".

Sandy Hook(elementary), Hurricane Sandy, Sandy Island, Sandy Oregon... ???

http://news.yahoo.com/congressional-backing-grows-gun-control-debate-220341844--politics.html

Congressional backing grows for gun control debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional gun rights supporters showed an increased willingness Tuesday to consider new legislation to control firearms in the aftermath of the Connecticut school shootings — provided it also addresses mental health issues and the impact of violent video games.
 
A former co-chairman of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, Democratic Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., and 10-term House Republican Jack Kingston — a Georgia lawmaker elected with strong National Rifle Association backing — were the latest to join the call to consider gun control as part of a comprehensive, anti-violence effort next year.
 
"Put guns on the table, also put video games on the table, put mental health on the table," Kingston said.
 
But he added that nothing should be done immediately, saying, "There is a time for mourning and a time to sort it out. I look forward to sorting it out and getting past the grief stage."
 
With the nation's nerves still raw over the murders of 20 elementary school children and six teachers, White House, spokesman Jay Carney said President Barack Obama was "actively supportive" of a plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to introduce legislation to reinstate an assault weapons ban. While Obama has long supported a ban, he exerted little effort to get it passed during his first term.
 
Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association, silent since the shootings, said in a statement that it "is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." There was no indication what that might entail. The group, the best-known defender of gun rights in America, scheduled a news conference for Friday.
 
On Capitol Hill, Feinstein is likely to become chairman next year of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which may get the first crack at considering firearms legislation.
 
Carney said the president also would support legislation that closes a gun show "loophole," which allows people to buy guns from private dealers without a background check. And he says Obama would be "interested in looking at" legislation to restrict high capacity ammunition clips.
 
The spokesman said Obama was heartened by growing support on Capitol Hill for a national discussion on gun violence, particularly from seemingly unlikely lawmakers. The president spoke on the phone Tuesday with West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative Democrat and avid hunter, who said after the Connecticut shootings that "everything should be on the table" in those discussions.
 
Carney sidestepped questions about whether Obama regrets not having taken stronger gun control during his first term, but he said the president does think more needs to be done.
 
"We as a nation — and he, as a member and leader of the nation — need to do more," he said.
 
Late Wednesday, the National Rifle Association, the most potent pro-gun group and one that keeps score of lawmakers' votes, explained its silence until now.
 
"The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown," the NRA statement said.
 
"Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting."
 
Among members of Congress, Thompson, the former Sportsmen's Caucus co-chairman, was named to lead a Democratic task force on gun violence. He's a hunter, a wounded Vietnam veteran and a conservative Democrat.
 
"The only experience I've had with assault weapons was the one that I was trained with when I was in the Army," he said. "I know that this is not a war on guns. Gun owners and hunters across this country have every right to own legitimate guns for legitimate purposes and ... we are not going to take law-abiding citizens 'guns away from them."
 
On Monday, NRA member Manchin, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa — senior Republican on the Judiciary Committee — said it's time for a debate that would include gun control. Reid previously had taken pro-gun positions for years.
 
Not all Republicans were willing to go as far as Grassley or Kingston, but they didn't rule out tackling gun control.
 
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters, "The entire Congress is united in condemning the violence in Newtown and on the need to enforce our laws. As we continue to learn the facts, Congress will examine whether there is an appropriate and constitutional response that would better protect our citizens."
 
McConnell added that Reid controls the Senate schedule.
 
At a regular House Republican closed-door meeting Tuesday Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania, a psychologist, led a discussion on mental illness — which he described as the primary cause of mass shootings.
 
Murphy said he told colleagues that mental illness was the common link in similar tragic incidents and "we have to stop pretending it doesn't exist. We need to understand what it is that triggers changes in someone."
 
"I see it as the center of the issue. Get mental illness out of the shadows."
 
___
 
Associated Press writer Julie Pace contributed.

I wonder if something like this have angered gun control advocates too? ::)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/mark-sanchez-most-recent-football-player-receive-death-222219536--nfl.html

Mark Sanchez is the most recent football player to receive death threats via Twitter


It takes a "special" kind of repugnant punk to throw death threats at athletes via social media, and when such things happen as we all still have recent events heavy on our hearts, it's particularly disgusting. Yet, it seems as if there are "human beings" so infantile and stupid that it will actually occur to them that threatening the lives of athletes based on their negative exploits on the field is a really neat idea.
 
So it was for someone who has the Twitter handle @BraveGrancru, whose account is still somehow up as we publish this post. (Twitter, you might want to look into that). As New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez was turning the ball over five times in the Jets' 14-10 loss to the Tennessee Titans on Monday Night Football, the aforementioned moron was tweeting stuff like this:
 

DON'T COME TO PRACTICE WEDNESDAY I PROMISE YOU BULLETS EVERYWHERE .. @mark_sanchez
 

SANCHEZ BETTER HAVE ARMED SECURITY AT PRACTICE !! YOU THINK IMMA SIT HERE AND WATCH THIS BULL**** ?? TUHHH @nyjets
 

I SWARE IF I EVER SEE YOU SON U DEAD IDC YOU ARE THE WORST QB IN THE NFL YOU MEXICAN *****
 

PLEASE GIVE ME SOME TIME ON AIR TO VOICE MY FUTURE KILLING !! I HATE MARK SANCHEZ AND HE MUST GO ! @foxnews
 

"Kill yo self tonight ! Or imma do it for you Wednesday at practice @Mark_Sanchez."
 
This person then published a picture of himself on his account, with the note: TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOUR KILLA WEDNESDAY NIGHT NIGHT
 
Given this individual's clear hunger for publicity, we'll skip the step of publishing his picture. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that NFL security has followed up with the Jets organization regarding this matter.
 
Sadly, this jerk will get his 15 minutes, According to his Twitter timeline that shouldn't even be up anymore, he's received inquiries from several members of the New York football media. We can only hope that he's making this up.
 
Sanchez isn't the first NFL player to get death threats on Twitter. San Francisco 49ers receiver Kyle Williams received several after he fumbled twio returns in the most recent NFC championship game, and Washington Redskins receiver Josh Morgan was the recipient of similar threats when a penalty called on Morgan was a key factor in Washington's 31-28 September loss to the St. Louis Rams.
 
We'll avoid the soapbox here, except to say that if you actually think this is a reasonable or right idea, there's obviously something very, very wrong with you. and we've seen what happens when such alarms go unnoticed. The NFL needs to step up, work with the appropriate authorities, and make a serious commitment to doing something proactive about this.
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The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own
Geoffrey Ingersoll|Dec. 18, 2012, 2:36 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12

By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday.
 
Guns might not be the only problem though.
 
New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning).
 
Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.
 
Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask?
 
There are many reasons, some of which have to do with competing entities in a competitive market.
 
The main cited reason for the rejection was that it caused severe heart problems in enough patients to cause a stir.
 
Maybe more importantly, though, Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior.
 
In fact, Fanapt was dropped by its first producer, picked up by another, initially rejected by the FDA, then later picked up and mass produced. The adverse side-effect is said to be "infrequent," but still it exists, and can't be ignored.
 
The reaction invoked by the drug in some people is reminiscent of the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case, where a Green Beret slaughtered his entire family and then fabricated a story about a marauding troop of "hopped up hippies".
 
MacDonald though, had Eskatrol in his system, a weight-loss amphetamine that's since been banned in part for its side effects of psychotic behavior and aggression.
 
These drugs are not the only ones that can cause the opposite of their desired effect. Several anti-depressant medications are also restricted to adults, for the depression they inspire in kids rather than eliminate.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/****s-stores-suspend-sales-rifles-18005190#.UNDVBWcoFkw
Replace the asterisks with the name of the story below...

D!ck's Stores Suspend Sales of Certain Rifles

12/18/12

A sporting goods chain says it's suspending sales of modern rifles nationwide because of the school shooting in Connecticut.
 
D!ck's Sporting Goods also says it's removing all guns from display at its store closest to Newtown, where the massacre took place.

Authorities say a gunman killed 26 people, mostly children, with a military-style rifle at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday after killing his mother. He then killed himself.
 
A statement posted on ****'s website expresses sympathy for the victims' families. It says sales of modern sporting rifles will be suspended during "this time of national mourning."
 
****'s declined to answer Associated Press questions about how long the suspension would last or which weapons were being pulled.
 
Pittsburgh-based ****'s Sporting Goods Inc. has more than 500 stores in 44 states.

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-walmart-dicks-cabelas-bushmaster-20121218,0,7553838.story
Again, replace the asterisks with the name of the story mentioned below...

D!ck's, Cabela's, others reconsider sales of Sandy Hook gun

Several major firearms retailers are rethinking sales strategies for the rifle said to be used in Friday’s massacre in Connecticut.
 
Cabela’s, an outdoor products retailer, was still offering Bushmaster AR-15 rifles for between $730 and $1,040 each on its website. But the sale page notes that the firearm is not available for sale at the company’s Connecticut store.
 
Dick’s Sporting Goods said in a statement that it removed all guns from its store near Newtown “out of respect for the victims and their families” and suspended sales of modern sporting rifles in all its stores nationwide.

Last month, when revealing earnings for Dick’s third quarter, Chief Executive Edward Stack said that gun sales “have spiked since the election.”
 
“We expect that the gun and ammunition business will move to be a slightly bigger part of our business going forward and that will help the earnings,” he said in a conference call with analysts.
 
Wal-Mart, which sells guns from the Bushmaster line at about 1,700 stores nationwide, pulled the information page for the brand's Patrolman's Carbine M4A3 rifle from its website Monday, according to the Nation publication.
 
In a statement, the company said it remains "dedicated to the safe and responsible sale of firearms in areas of the country where they are sold."
 
"We did have an information page on Walmart.com regarding this model of gun that was taken down in light of the tragic events, but this product was never available for purchase on the website," said spokesman Kory Lundberg.
 
Gun sales seemed to be rising before the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. More women were picking up firearms, manufacturers were unveiling new innovations and Wall Street had embraced weapons makers’ stocks.
 
But on Tuesday, the share prices for public firearms producers such as Smith & Wesson and Sturm Ruger continued to dive.

Peter Lanza, Adam Lanza's Father, Was Cut Off From Son Before Sandy Hook Shooting: Report
Updated: 12/18/2012 6:04 pm EST
HuffPo w/ vid


Peter Lanza -- Adam Lanza's father -- reportedly had almost no involvement in his son's life in the years leading up to the Sandy Hook shooting.

NBC News reports that Adam had cut off communications with Peter, refusing to see him, according to a source close to the family.

Peter and Nancy Lanza split in 2001 and in 2010, Peter started dating a new woman. The source said that's when Adam stopped speaking with his dad. The father and son hadn't seen each other since then, according to the report.

On the day of the Sandy Hook massacre, Nancy Lanza was her son's first victim.

In the years leading up to that incident, Nancy pulled her son out of high school because of a disagreement with the Newtown Public School District, Nancy's sister-in-law tells ABC News.

"She wound up home-schooling him because she battled with the school district," Marsha Lanza said.

It's unclear what Nancy Lanza and the school district butted heads over.

Paula Levy, a divorce mediator who worked with the Lanza, said they both worried about caring for their son.

"The only two things I remember them saying is that she really didn't like to leave him alone, and I know they went out of their way to accommodate him," Levy said.

http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-shooters-computer-badly-damaged-151437335--abc-news-topstories.html

12/17/12

Newtown Gunman's Computer Damaged, Evidence Possibly Destroyed


A computer at the Connecticut home where Newtown, Conn., school shooter Adam Lanza lived with his mother was badly damaged, perhaps smashed with a hammer, said police who hope the machine might still yield clues to the gunman's motive.
 
The computer's hard drive appeared to have been badly damaged with a hammer or screw driver, law enforcement authorities told ABC News, complicating efforts to exploit it for evidence.
 
Officials have "seized significant evidence at [Lanza's] residence," said Connecticut State Police spokesman Paul Vance, adding that the process of sifting through that much forensic evidence would be a lengthy and "painstaking process."
 
Authorities also told ABC News that the weapons used in Friday's rampage at Sandyhook Elementary School, which left dead 20 children and seven adults including Lanza's mother Nancy, were purchased by his mother between 2010 and 2012.
 
more

http://news.yahoo.com/stylists-lanza-never-spoke-made-no-eye-contact-215310243.html

Stylists: Lanza never spoke, made no eye contact

NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — As a teenager, Adam Lanza would come in for a haircut about every six weeks without speaking or looking at anyone and always accompanied by his mother, said stylists at a salon in the town where Lanza gunned down 27 people last week, including his mother, before killing himself.
 
He stopped coming in a few years ago, and the employees at the salon thought he had moved away, said stylist Bob Skuba.
 
The comments from him and his colleagues were among the first describing how the Lanzas interacted with each other. Investigators have found no letters or diaries that could explain the attack, one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history.
 
Cutting Adam Lanza's hair "was a very long half an hour. It was a very uncomfortable situation," stylist Diane Harty said. She said that she never heard his voice and that Nancy Lanza also hardly spoke.
 
Another stylist, Jessica Phillips, echoed their descriptions of the Lanzas and added that Nancy Lanza would give her son directions about what to do and where to go.
 
Adam would move only "when his mother told him to," Skuba said.
 
"I would say, 'Adam, come on.' He wouldn't move," Skuba said. "And his mother would have to say, 'Adam, come on, he's ready.' It was like I was invisible." He said Adam also wouldn't move from his chair after his hair was cut until his mother told him to.
 
If a stylist would ask Adam a question, Skuba said, his mother would answer.
 
"He would just be looking down at the tiles ... the whole time," Skuba said.
 
Former classmates have previously described Adam Lanza as intelligent but remote, and former high school adviser described him as anxious and shy. Several people who knew his mother have described her as a devoted parent.
 
Divorce paperwork released this week showed that Nancy Lanza had the authority to make all decisions regarding Adam's upbringing. The divorce was finalized in September 2009, when Adam Lanza was 17.

Facebook halts accounts for questioning narrative
'Essentially labeling such activity a thought crime'

Facebook is suspending user accounts that question the official narrative behind the Sandy Hook school massacre, following a warning by Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance that “misinformation” posted on social media sites could result in prosecution.

An image posted in the aftermath of the shootings that questioned whether “a clumsy 20-year-old autistic kid” could have pulled off the murders of 26 people was deleted and the user’s account hit with a three day suspension.

“I was informed the reason for this punishment was the result of a meme I had shared,” writes the editor of SecretsOfTheFed.com. “Facebook told me it “…violates Facebook’s Statement of Rights and Responsibilities”. I was further warned that “If you continue to abuse Facebook’s features, your account could be permanently disabled.”

http://www.infowars.com/facebook-suspends-account-for-questioning-official-narrative-on-shooting/

Do everybody a favor and delete the accounts of every Facebook user!

But this is a new low for police state tactics.


This guy is delusional. Cameras are pointed their way, so now they got to work their 15 minutes.

Talk about misinformation, then he needs to talk to the media, who hasn't got it right yet what happened. Initially, they slandered Adam's brother saying Ryan was the shooter. They are the main source of all this "misinformation", which is then forwarded across social media and they well know it. It's why they put out the info they do.

The media should be prosecuted for lying to the public and sensationalizing stories to promote political views.

House Dem: 'Turn in your guns'

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee  ::)  (D-Texas) on Wednesday afternoon urged people to turn in their guns, arguing it would be an appropriate response to last week's mass shooting in Newtown, Conn.

"I would personally just say to those who are listening, maybe you want to turn in your guns," Jackson Lee said on the House floor. "Oh no, I'm not going to take your guns. But look at what D1ck's Sporting Goods did … they wanted to be part of the solution and part of America."

D1ck's Sporting Goods announced this week that it would stop selling and displaying guns at its store closest to Newtown, and would suspend the sale of modern sporting rifles nation-wide out of respect for the victims of the shooting.

"We are extremely saddened by the unspeakable tragedy that occurred last week in Newtown, CT, and our hearts go out to the victims and their families, and to the entire community," the chain said in a statement on its website. "We continue to extend our deepest sympathies to those affected by this terrible tragedy."

While Jackson Lee said she would not take guns away from people, she noted that she is the sponsor of legislation, H.R. 227. That bill would raise the eligibility to carry a handgun from 18 to 21, and ban people under 21 from possessing semiautomatic assault weapons.

Her bill, the Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act, would also increase penalties for repeat violations of gun possession under the Brady Act, and prohibit the keeping of a loaded firearm in any premises where there is a risk that the firearm could harm a child.

She encouraged House members to support her bill, which was introduced in January 2011 and at this point has no cosponsors.

"Let us mourn with action," she said.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/273753-house-dem-calls-on-people-to-turn-in-your-guns

Gross. Barack Obama Uses Sandy Hook Massacre to Push Tax Hikes (Video)

This was gross.
During his press conference this morning Barack Obama used the masssacre at Sandy Hook School to push Republicans to agree to his tax hikes.

    “After what we’ve gone through over the past several months, a devastating hurricane and now one of the worse tragedies in our memory, the country deserves the folks to be willing to compromise for the greater good.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J04EnXTS3KE


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/gross-barack-obama-uses-sandy-hook-massacre-to-push-tax-hikes-video/

Father of Sandy Hook Victim Asks ‘Read the Card?’ Seconds Before Tear-jerking Press Conference
http://www.infowars.com/father-of-sandy-hook-victim-asks-read-the-card-seconds-before-tear-jerking-press-conference/

Infowars.com
December 19, 2012

As unexplained factors in the tragic Sandy Hook school shooting continue to surface, independent researchers have pointed to an odd clip where Robbie Parker, father of slain 6-year-old Emily Parker, asks if his should read off the card, and is told that he should during a press conference that took place the day after Friday’s shooting.

The Huffington Post described Parker’s heartfelt statement as “fighting back tears and struggling to catch his breath,” though he can be seen craking a smile and brief laugh just before approaching the microphone. The full press conference can be viewed here.

Is the establishment media trying to steer the victims’ reactions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w

Statement from Alex Jones: “My deepest condolences go out to Mr. Parker and the rest of his family, as well as all the other families suffering from this tragedy. It appears that members of the media or government have given him a card and are telling him what to say as they steer reaction to this event, so this needs to be looked into.”

MORE: http://www.secretsofthefed.com/breaking-un-small-arms-treaty-passes-while-media-sleeps/

BREAKING: UN Small Arms Treaty Passes While Media Sleeps

Posted by: liberating elderPosted date: December 19, 2012

So they're waiting until NOW to hold violent video games accountable?? Yes, they have a big affect on our youth, but again, they pretty much put this issue to sleep after 9/11, but wait until NOW to bring it to the discussion table DESPITE prior school shootings?? And notice Sen John Rockefeller is the one calling them out - yeah, the same guy who's part of the 13 Illuminati family members...

http://news.yahoo.com/videogames-under-fire-hollywood-lays-low-school-shooting-224001440.html


Videogames under fire, Hollywood lays low after school shooting

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The multi-billion-dollar videogame industry came under scrutiny on Wednesday after Hollywood canceled, postponed or played down a slew of movies and TV shows with violent content in the wake of last week's shooting at a Connecticut elementary school.
 
In Washington, Senator John Rockefeller called for a national study of the impact of violent videogames on children and a review of the rating system.
 
Although investigators in Newtown, Connecticut, have given no motive for Friday's shooting rampage, some U.S. media have reported that the 20-year-old gunman played popular videogame "Call of Duty" - in which players conduct simulated warfare missions - in the basement of his home.
 
The gunman, Adam Lanza, killed himself at the scene after gunning down 20 young children, six school employees and his mother.
 
Rockefeller said he had long been concerned about the impact of violent games and videos on children.
 
"Major corporations, including the video game industry, make billions on marketing and selling violent content to children. They have a responsibility to protect our children," Rockefeller said in a statement.
 
The Entertainment Software Association, which represents the $78 billion U.S. videogame industry, on Wednesday offered its "heartfelt prayers and condolences" to the Newtown families.
 
But it said in a statement that "the search for meaningful solutions must consider the broad range of actual factors that may have contributed to this tragedy.
 
"Any such study needs to include the years of extensive research that has shown no connection between entertainment and real-life violence," the association said.
 
NEW 'CALL OF DUTY,' 'HALO' GAMES RAKE IN BILLIONS
 
Activision Blizzard's latest title in its "Call of Duty" franchise - "Call of Duty: Black Ops II" - hit $1 billion in sales two weeks after its launch last month.
 
Other popular videogames include Microsoft's "Halo 4," in which players kill evil aliens. The game racked up $220 million in global sales on its launch day in November.
 
Mike Hickey, an analyst at National Alliance Capital Markets, said backlashes against videogames were not rare, but he was unaware of an instance of games being pulled off store shelves in the past.
 
When the Columbine school shooting happened in 1999, there was a similar outcry because the two perpetrators were students who played the shooter game "Doom," Hickey told Reuters.
 
Executives at Hollywood movie studios and TV networks have mostly laid low this week as Americans seek answers to the Newtown slaughter, and discuss how to prevent similar gun violence.
 
However, content seen as sensitive has been pulled from the airwaves, including an episode of the SyFy TV series "Haven" that contained violent scenes in a high school setting, and the premiere next week of a TLC show called "Best Funeral Ever."
 
Discovery Channel canceled a third season of its reality series "American Guns" about a family of gun makers. Some radio stations stopped playing pop star Ke$ha's bubbly new single "Die Young" to avoid any potential offense.
 
Glitzy red carpet premieres for violent upcoming new movies "Jack Reacher," starring Tom Cruise, and "Django Unchained" starring Jamie Foxx, were canceled out of respect for the Newtown victims, but both movies will open in theaters as planned in the next seven days.
 
INSENSITIVE TODAY, OK TOMORROW?
 
The Parents TV Council praised the response of the entertainment industry this week, but said it shouldn't be confined to the immediate aftermath of such tragedies.
 
"If a television network changes its programming because of content that could be insensitive today, why would that same content be appropriate at a later time?," council president Tim Winter said in a statement.
 
"If producers and performers rightly question whether their industry is complicit in creating a violent media culture that feeds real-life tragedies, why would there be a later time to produce and distribute more of it?," Winter added.
 
Most major Hollywood stars have remained silent about the potential influence of violent movies on U.S. society. But "Django Unchained" star Foxx was quoted as saying the movie industry should not shirk its responsibility.
 
"We cannot turn our back and say that violence in films or anything that we do doesn't have a sort of influence," Foxx was quoted as saying while promoting the film in New York.
 
Director Quentin Tarantino called the Newtown shootings "a horrible tragedy," but in an interview with CNN on Monday he declined to link screen violence with real life events.
 
"This has gone back all the way down to Shakespeare's days ... when there's violence in the street, the cry becomes 'blame the playmaker.' And you know, I actually think that's a very facile argument to pin on something that's a real life tragedy," Tarantino said.
 
(Additional reporting by Malathi Nayak in San Francisco, editing by Stacey Joyce)

Psych meds linked to 90% of school shootings
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-to-90-of-school-shootings/#vgFAhVbrXyVsTcFK.99

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdCTqY8TYIo

^^

Watch the video in its entirety - Ben Swann doesn't confirm anything Sorcha Faal reported. If anything, he does a good job weeding through all the fine line details.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/scott-brown-becomes-first-republican-back-federal-assault-134440437--politics.html

Scott Brown becomes first Republican to back federal assault weapons ban

12/20/12

Scott Brown of Massachusetts on Wednesday became the first sitting Republican senator to voice support for a federal assault weapons ban after the Newtown, Conn., shootings.
 
Brown failed to win re-election in November, however, and won’t be in Congress to vote on gun legislation.
 
“As a state legislator in Massachusetts, I supported an assault weapons ban thinking other states would follow suit. But unfortunately they have not and innocent people are being killed,” Brown told Massachusetts paper the Republican on Wednesday. “As a result, I support a federal assault weapons ban, perhaps like the legislation we have in Massachusetts."
 
Brown is the first sitting Republican senator to offer support for a new federal ban—something Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., has pledged to introduce in January and something the White House has indicated will have the president’s support.
 
Several pro-gun-rights Democratic lawmakers, including West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin—who spoke with President Barack Obama to discuss the issue on Tuesday—Virginia Sen. Mark Warner and Rep. Joe Donnelly of Indiana have either expressed concern over the availability of assault weapons or left the door open to a discussion.

Gun Grabbers Call For Re-Education Programs In Public Schools

Gun Grabbers Call For Re-Education Programs In Public Schools; IF THIS DOESN'T MAKE YOU FURIOUS AND STILL HAVE KIDS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS YOU ARE SEALING THEIR FATE UNTO BRAINWASHING BY THE GLOBALISTS TO BECOME SLAVES

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1231-gun-grabbers-call-for-re-education-programs-in-public-schools

"Friends, there is a gift that God has given me:  I can smell something fishy a mile away.  Like Benghazi.  Almost on day one, I told my husband:  “The facts don’t make sense.  Something is wrong here.”  Last night, after I saw a talking head interview (or, I should say, NOT interview) the father of the boy who saw his teacher get shot and ran for his life with a couple of friends, I told my husband, “Something is not right here.  She didn’t ask a single relevant question.  So far, this boy is the only eye-witness of the gunman coming forward.  She didn’t ask if the boy saw one or more shooters.  She didn’t ask any details of what the gunman did first, second, third.  She didn’t ask for a description of the gunman.  These reporters are complete prostitutes.  They could care less about the feelings of the people they interview.  So why didn’t she ask any of these questions?”  In fact, I could tell she was biting back questions.  I looked at my husband and said,  “Cal, this thing is starting to stink.  By now, there should be many eye-witness accounts of the actual gunman.  There should be breathless survivors talking about how this guy walked by their room, etc.  About how they narrowly escaped.  But so far, it looks like every single eye-witness is dead.  That is IMPOSSIBLE!”

I watched the situation LIVE.  There were original reports of a second man who was found in the woods that they had put in custody.  This man was NEVER spoken of again.  Why?  The details of the shooting changed enormously from one minute to the next.  Inside sources at the police departments were reporting one thing while the official accounts said completely different information.  The news reports were full of such ambiguous NON statements that I was furiously looking throughout the internet to find solid evidence or eye-witness accounts to clarify.  None was to be found.  One example:  They originally said that the shooter was buzzed in via the front office’s new video security system.  Then, the news report said, “The shooter was NOT voluntarily buzzed into the school.”  What the heck does THAT mean?  Does that mean he forced his way through the system?  Does that mean they have video evidence of his face?  Does that mean that there was someone on the inside putting a gun to someone’s head to buzz the shooter in?  Huh?

Also, it seems highly unlikely, based on descriptions of Adam, that he could have purchased all that black ops gear!  The guy is described as being so shy that he would hug the school walls when someone approached him!  Also, first the news definitely says the mother was a teacher and the classroom of dead kids was her class.  Then, reports are that she had nothing to do with the school.  So, why the shooting there?  Also, the number and kind of weapons used changed.  Also, where they discovered the weapons.  Sometimes they reported that all the weapons were in the school.  Then they said the rifle was in the car.  But they also said that the shooter used the rifle to kill every single person with multiple shots.

No, something stinks here.  The lack of eye witnesses of the shooter confirming the single shooter account is BLARINGLY absent.  The reports of a second shooter in the woods has suddenly disappeared.  The reporters are not grilling the one and only witness we know of- this little boy.  Please don’t say they suddenly have even a smidge of conscience.  The original statements about the shooter being buzzed into the school have simply disappeared.  I was ready to let this go and explain it away as simple confusion.  I was maddened by the timing and circumstances of the tragedy as concerns the upcoming UN small arms treaty & gun control.  It killed me that this wack-job used LEGALLY REGISTERED weapons to do his killing.  There is NO OTHER CONCLUSION, if the story is accurate,  than the fact that had Adam Lanza NOT had access to those legal guns, he could never have killed those kids.  He was too mentally ill to have gotten those weapons himself.  He was diagnosed with Asperger’s  Syndrome and we now know that he had many, many interventions by school officials in the past.  I felt that the killing of little children would be the strongest argument yet that we should clamp down on gun ownership.  I just couldn’t believe the TIMING and circumstances of this event- a GIFT to the Progressives to disarm us.  Who can argue with this case?    I was ready for the inevitable.

But a friend sent me the following links which tell a different story.  Having reported the event LIVE and experienced the changing information, I am not surprised.  In fact, it makes sense now.

Friends.  I believe there is evidence of more than one shooter.  I believe this was a PLANNED event- specifically to get the UN Small Arms Treaty signed.  The father of the shooter is Peter Lanza, rumored to be scheduled to testify on the international LIBOR scandal.  Guess who else is rumored to be scheduled to testify on the LIBOR scandal?  Father of the BATMAN theater shooter.  Amazing coincidence?  We will see.  The LIBOR scandal is a massive, worldwide network of banks, the Federal Reserve and highly position individuals such as Tim Geihtner and Ben Bernanke that are being accused of manipulating LIBOR rates to gain better market positions.   Just some of the Banks involved are:  the Canadian branches of the Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan Bank, and Citibank, as well as ICAP (Intercapital), an interdealer broker.[37   It also mentions Bank of America & Barclays.   It is ugly to its roots and VERY powerful people are involved.

I believe our GOVERNMENT shot those kids and teachers and used Adam Lanza and his family to pull it off.  They might have killed two birds with one stone.  One:  If these men are involved in the LIBOR scandal, they can manipulate their testimony.  Two:  they get gun control.  How very, very clever and efficient of them, right?    I hate to say it.  I hate to put myself ‘out there’ with this because I KNOW how I will be attacked.  But I don’t do this for anyone’s approval.  I do it to help the American People.  You look at these links and you decide."

http://shortlittlerebel.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/urgent-update-on-connecticut-shooting/

^^

Yeah, there's just been TOO much info et al coming in, that my head has been spinning over the last week or so. This is a very good summary(although I believe the part about the fathers of both of the shooters to TESTIFY over the LIBOR scandal came from SORCHA FAAL - the other parts of their connections I believe are true). Thank you for posting this!

Yeah, the LIBOR angle has been traced back to Sorcha Faal.

And the US did not sign the UN gun treaty either, all they have done is "sign on" to continue talks after they broke down in July, when the US, Russia and others disagreed with the draft resolution at the time. Yes, the Obama admin does support some kind of treaty, but nothing has been finalized to even sign yet.

One must be careful what sources we read. There is a growing surge of misinformation taking place as more and more rumor and lies are tossed into the mix by people who either love to mess with people for kicks by starting rumors, or it's an intentional effort to confuse and misdirect people away from the truth.

Check your sources! ;)

Obama calls on public to lobby Congress on guns...
http://blogs.mcclatchydc.com/washington/2012/12/obama-to-address-gun-control-petition-.html
get the sheeple to demand the sheeple to turn in the sheeples only protection

Gun Supplier Sells 3.5 Years Worth of Magazines -- in Just 3 Days!
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/firearms-supplier-sells-more-three-years-worth-magazines-just-three

Bloomberg: No One Has 'Defended Second Amendment as Much as I Have'...
http://politicker.com/2012/12/bloomberg-no-one-has-defended-the-second-amendment-as-much-as-i-have/
he means defending the Government against the second ammendment

Cuomo: Gun Confiscation and Forced Buy-back an Option...
http://www.infowars.com/new-york-gov-mandatory-gun-sale-to-state-and-confiscation-are-options/
those options will only lead to 1 thing

California offered as national mental health model
Experts, lawmakers say Calif program could be national model on treating mental illness

In response to the killing of schoolchildren in Connecticut, the federal government should consider California's strategy for dealing with mental illness, experts and lawmakers said Thursday.

The Mental Health Services Act passed by voters in 2004 levied a special tax on high-income residents to pay for housing, medication, therapy and other services.

The tax has helped more than 60,000 Californians. A fifth of the money is dedicated to prevention and early intervention, though The Associated Press reported in August that tens of millions of dollars had gone to general wellness programs for people who had not been diagnosed with any mental illness.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said the act that he championed has been effective in promoting early and broad-ranging intervention.

He sent a letter to Vice President Joe Biden, urging him to consider California's experience as he seeks ways to increase mental health resources and avert violence.

On Wednesday, President Barack Obama instructed Biden to oversee the administration-wide review that also will consider gun control legislation and ways to keep society from glamorizing guns and violence.

The federal government should match money raised in California and other states to create the foundation of a national mental health system, Steinberg, a Democrat from Sacramento, said at a news conference.

The $1 billion in annual funding has been offset as other California programs have lost hundreds of millions of dollars due to budget cuts elsewhere in the system.

Jessica Cruz, executive director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness-California, praised Steinberg's proposal but said the nation should do even more to provide adequate funding for mental health services.

Biden's office had no immediate comment, but the proposal was backed by lawmakers including Rep. Doris Matsui, D-Sacramento, who has introduced the Excellence in Mental Health Act. Her legislation would support community mental health services and make them eligible for Medicaid reimbursement.

Steinberg's proposal had general support from state Sen. Ted Gaines of Roseville, a conservative Republican senator who generally opposes gun control efforts.

Gaines said he will introduce legislation that would permanently bar anyone from owning a gun if they have been deemed by the courts to be a danger to others because of a mental disorder or mental illness.

Current law allows such people to petition the court to legally possess a firearm after they have completed treatment. Gaines' bill would also extend the weapons prohibition to mentally disordered sex offenders.

He is among several lawmakers advancing proposals to tighten gun restrictions and improve school safety preparations.

On Thursday, Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, said she will introduce legislation requiring that those buying ammunition show identification, that the purchases be reported to the state Department of Justice, and that all ammunition dealers be licensed and undergo a background check. Her legislation also would ban kits than can be used to convert ammunition clips into high-capacity magazines.

Gov. Jerry Brown told the AP on Thursday that he has not had time to consider the legislation being introduced in response to last week's massacre.

Though California is at the forefront of regulating weapons, Brown said, "there's more things that can be done and I'm sure we'll see a lot of good suggestions."

http://news.yahoo.com/california-offered-national-mental-health-131612527.html

Wait, California expert at mental health? Isn't that like an oxymoron or something?  ::)

NRA Calls for Armed Officers in Schools

The nation's most powerful gun-rights lobby called Friday for armed security guards in schools, saying that children had been left vulnerable in their classrooms.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324461604578193364201364432.html


Wayne LaPierre: Hollywood, media, music, violent videos cause culture of violence...

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16069537-nra-blames-media-music-and-more-for-culture-of-violence?lite


Journalists seethe over NRA...
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/21/journalists-slam-nra-throughout-press-conference/

of course they do... ::)

So it's the NRA that's pointing fingers at violence in the media? Then let the blame game begin...

Even worse, the NRA just endorsed POLICE STATE measures. Why not endorse teachers themselves carrying firearms? ::)

That's basically what I posted over at PPF. They should have said, "...trained, armed citizens..."

Yet of all organizations, the NRA president advocates "security guards" at schools instead of armed citizens protecting their own children.

Pretty much makes it clear where the NRA loyalties are.

School Obama's Daughters Attend Has 11 Armed Guards

Some interesting news has broken in the wake of the latest push for gun control by Obama and Senate Democrats: Obama sends his kids to a school where armed guards are used as a matter of fact.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service

to bad for the rest of us

Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons
Stay informed
In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devises.

To receive updates on this legislation, click here.


Press releases
Feinstein to Introduce Updated Assault Weapons Bill in New Congress, December 17, 2012
Feinstein Statement on Connecticut School Shooting, December 14, 2012
Summary of 2013 legislation
Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. 

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

On the surface, it makes sense that family of high-ranking government officials have security that most don't need, because those people need it. You can't let the president or his family just wander around. There are wicked people that want to do wicked things and with government officials, they could do some real damage. It's just common sense security. I have no problem paying for security in that respect. And like it or not, people of serious money are real targets too. That's just the way the world is.

The sons of God need none of that stuff with God being for us, but those in the world living without God? They are fair game for bad guys. It's literally a "dog eat dog" world.

"What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?" Romans 8:31 (KJB)

(http://imageftw.com/uploads/20121228/66420_10151353085230365_1475282982_n.jpg)

How so? What did the paper hope to accomplish by voluntarily publishing such info, public info or not.

Besides, if it's public info, why spend the time publishing info that is already openly available to the public?

And how are articles decided on by a newspaper? It's by CHOICE what they publish.

They are not mandated to publish anything. They intentionally chose to "run with it" the story because the editor has an agenda that goes beyond freedom of the press.

That isn't journalism, that's propaganda. ::)

Facebook bans Gandhi quote as part of revisionist history purge

(NaturalNews) The reports are absolutely true. Facebook suspended the Natural News account earlier today after we posted an historical quote from Mohandas Gandhi. The quote reads:

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.

This historical quote was apparently too much for Facebook's censors to bear. They suspended our account and gave us a "final warning" that one more violation of their so-called "community guidelines" would result in our account being permanently deactivated.

They then demanded we send them a color copy of a "government issued identification" in order to reactivate our account. Our account was removed from suspension just minutes before InfoWars posted its article on this Facebook censorship, and the Facebook page is now functioning at:
www.Facebook.com/NaturalNews

This is a separate account from our primary Facebook account, which has nearly 250,000 followers at:
www.Facebook.com/HealthRanger

http://www.naturalnews.com/038484_Gandhi_quote_Facebook_censorship.html

Buyers flock to gun shows in VA...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/gun-sales-surge-in-virginia-after-newtown/2012/12/28/0ad349e8-511a-11e2-839d-d54cc6e49b63_story.html

'It's Never Been Like This'...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/gun-sales-surge-in-virginia-after-newtown/2012/12/28/0ad349e8-511a-11e2-839d-d54cc6e49b63_story.html

Backorders Up To 6 Months From Manufacturers...
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/29/assault-rifles-ammo-flying-off-shelves-after-newtown-massacre/

Only 1 Person Shows Up To Protest Show In Denver...
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/12/29/lone-protester-pickets-tanner-gun-show-in-denver/

Obama hopes to enact new gun-control measures in 2013
12/30/12 09:49 AM ET

President Obama on Sunday said he would make gun control a priority in his new term, pledging to put his “full weight” behind passing new restrictions on firearms in 2013.

“I'm going to be putting forward a package and I'm going to be putting my full weight behind it,” said Obama in an interview aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I'm going to be making an argument to the American people about why this is important and why we have to do everything we can to make sure that something like what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary does not happen again.”

The president in the wake of the mass shooting at a Newtown, Conn. school has launched a White House task force led by Vice President Joe Biden to present proposals in January to help stem gun violence. Obama has said that he would seek a broad approach to the problem addressing the role of violence in entertainment and measures to improve mental health care.

But he has also called on Congress to move quickly to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban and a ban on the sale of high-capacity magazines.

Obama on Sunday repeated those calls and said he would meet with lawmakers on both sides of the aisles to see action.

“I've been very clear that an assault rifle ban, banning these high capacity clips, background checks, that there are a set of issues that I have historically supported and will continue to support,” said the president.

“I'd like to get it done in the first year.  I will put forward a very specific proposal based on the recommendations that Joe Biden's task force is putting together as we speak.  And so this is not something that I will be putting off."

But the push for heightened gun control will likely face tough political opposition, with the nation’s largest gun lobby, the National Rifle Association (NRA), saying they will oppose any new restrictions.

The group earlier this month held a press conference calling for national program to place armed guards in the nation’s schools, a move they said would be more effective at preventing future tragedies like Newtown.

Obama on Sunday said that he hoped to involve all “stakeholders” in the national debate over gun violence, but expressed unease with the NRA’s proposal.

“I am not going to prejudge the recommendations that are given to me.  I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools.  And I think the vast majority of the American people are skeptical that that somehow is going to solve our problem,” said the president.

Obama said that he expected even firearm owners to understand the need for new regulations in the wake of the Connecticut shooting.

“I think there are a vast majority of responsible gun owners out there who recognize that we can't have a situation in which somebody with severe psychological problems is able to get the kind of high capacity weapons that this individual in Newtown obtained and gun down our kids,” said Obama.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013

I'll be honest - personally I've had a lifelong fear of guns(and was a supporter of gun control until the Lord opened my eyes over the NWO)...however, recently I'm considering buying a gun.

If you do decide to go that route, I highly recommend a basic safety course, like hunter's education. If you learn and practice the safety rules until they're second nature, you'll never have a problem with accidental discharges. It's also a great way to familiarize yourself with different types of guns and gun terminology if you haven't spent much time around them before. I was recently surprised at how much I didn't know, and how much movies and television have deceived people about firearms.

For that matter, even if you decide not to buy, I'd still recommend the course for basic familiarization. It's good training.

If a person is going to own a firearm, that's not bad advice. A person really needs to learn some things about about safety first, how to simply hold a gun in any situation, how to watch out for others around you, etc. Many things to learn actually. And get to know the gun laws inside and out for where you live and the Constitution. If one insists on playing in that world, know how they do it.

Personally, I earned my marksman ribbons for both handgun and rifle while in the Navy, and as a youth, guns were part of life in the south. I had my own 410 shotgun as a kid. Went squirrel and rabbit hunting with it with no adults, just a friend or two. That was then.

Now? I see no place for weapons in Christianity. The weapons of our warfare are spiritual. Carnal is not where the focus should be. No guns, no knives, no battle axes. Sorry.

What would you defend yourself from? You better at defending yourself than the Holy Ghost inside you? God can lay every enemy at your feet IF you have faith. We are to love our enemies, not shoot back. Protect your family? Uh, no. That isn't an excuse either, because again that isn't of faith.

People try to justify guns by saying they need to defend their family, using the "What if..." scare tactic. That's bull. Take no thought for tomorrow. Look at what scripture says. And what Jesus says about who His mother and brother are. We are to focus on our faith in Jesus, not worry about others, family or not. If they accept Jesus, then they will be just fine. I can't save them, nor can any other man.

I DO NOT believe scripture says guns and weapons are okay for a believer. I see no mention at all that supports weapons.

Consider when the disciples asked Jesus if 2 swords were enough. Jesus said it was enough, yet there was how many in that group by then? Maybe dozens of people, and 2 swords for defense was enough? Against of all people, the Roman army? Uh, no. The swords were not for defense I believe. I believe they were for utilitarian reasons, a tool. And it doesn't even mention what type swords at that, which makes a big difference as a Roman short sword would be a fair tool living out in the wilderness, but a long sword would be nearly useless.

Christians should not own weapons that are intended for self defense. Jesus is our defense.

"If God be for us, who can be against us?"

^^

Thank you for the advice here, definitely something to consider what is said above.(I may not even buy a gun when all is said and done)

Not that I'm an anti-Constitution guy, but does anyone feel to SOME EXTENT, that the Constitution was written as somewhat of a SETUP for evil over the long haul? Again, I'm NOT anti-Constitution, but for 1, most of our founding fathers were Satanists and New Agers. And 2, look at some of the fruits it's bearing now - can't ban secular entertainment like rock music that's harming our youth b/c of the 1st ammendment. Have to kick out bible reading and prayer out of public schools supposedly b/c of the 1st ammendment. Christians have to own guns b/c of the 2nd ammendment(and not to look at scripture otherwise). And at the same time, other parts of it are quietly being destroyed(ie-we currently have a non-natural born citizen President).

It's as if our founding fathers had the intent of building a "New World", and maybe writing this Constitution was somewhat helping them lay the groundwork.

If government strictly adhered to the Constitution, we would not be in this current state of affairs. There had to be compromise and “interpretation” to get us here. I think the key to this is that the Constitution only works for one nation, under God. If people change their god, then everything else follows.

Video: Dianne Feinstein Says Her Goal is to Disarm All Americans

Infowars.com
December 31, 2012

Dianne Feinstein: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.”


VIDEO: http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

That woman is old fashion nuts. A complete mental case. But then it's California.


Yep, all things considered, I agree. By design, I have for a long time felt if your going to have a secular government structure, the US Constitution is as good as man has ever written. But, it's useless if the politicians don't operate it as designed, which they haven't.

I believe prophecy is why the US is where it's at, not so much because politicians have mismanaged the country. God tells us the wicked shall do wickedly, and so they have.

"Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." Daniel 12:10 (KJB)

Columnist proposes killing NRA members, dragging Republicans behind pickups

“During my 50-year career,” Kaul wrote, “every time some demented soul would take a semiautomatic gun and clean out a post office, a school or a picnic, I’d get up on my soap box and let loose with a withering diatribe about guns, the National Rifle Association and weak-kneed politicians. Did it about 75 times, give or take.”

Yet each time, he lamented, the only result was a spike in gun sales.

“That’s obscene,” he opined. “Here, then, is my ‘madder-than-hell-and-I’m-not-going-to-take-it-anymore’ program for ending gun violence in America.”

His first step: “Repeal the Second Amendment, the part about guns anyway. It’s badly written, confusing and more trouble than it’s worth. … Surely the Founders couldn’t have envisioned weapons like those used in the Newtown shooting when they guaranteed gun rights. Owning a gun should be a privilege, not a right.”

Second: “Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. … Make ownership of unlicensed assault rifles a felony. If some people refused to give up their guns, that ‘prying the guns from their cold, dead hands’ thing works for me.”

Third: “Then I would tie Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, our esteemed Republican leaders, to the back of a Chevy pickup truck and drag them around a parking lot until they saw the light on gun control.”

“And if that didn’t work,” Kaul concludes, “I’d adopt radical measures.”

Kaul explains his dramatic measures this way: “The thing missing from the debate so far is anger – anger that we live in a society where something like the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre can happen and our main concern is not offending the NRA’s sensibilities.”

It would appear Kaul has supplied his missing ingredient.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/pry-guns-from-cold-dead-fingers-works-for-me/#44VAsgRUq5MRUcY8.99

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.

just saying...  :D

For that comment alone the guy should be immediately fired!

Seriously, he's referencing a horrible crime that happened in Texas...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.)

 ???

The same John Boehner who's all but been in Obama's backpocket since he took over as House Speaker 2 years ago?

In this Sandy Hook school shooting thread, that is...

It just seems like all of these other organizations that's NOT Christians related(and for that matter too on the Churchianity crowd as well) have this one thing in common - they like to OPENLY show their "charitable" works, and boast about them. I was on my way to Louisiana 2 weeks ago, and I heard on the radio a woman who's the head of some athiest organization complain how athiests aren't getting "respected" for their charitable works et al.

Matthew 6:1  Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
Mat 6:2  Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mat 6:3  But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
Mat 6:4  That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Remember when Apostle John says in scripture to test the spirits? Just saying...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/newtown-adopt-cop-campaign-sandy-hook-yoga-212025975.html

Adopt a Cop campaign launched by yoga studio for Sandy Hook’s traumatized first responders

01/02/13

Police officers who were traumatized by the horrific scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., last month and are now running out of paid sick and vacation time may soon get some financial help from an unlikely source: a yoga studio.
 
Linda Antignani, founder of Mother's Embrace Yoga in nearby Shelton, Conn., contacted the Newtown Police Department to ask what she could do to help after hearing about officers who have been unable to work in the wake of the Dec. 14 massacre, when a gunman opened fire, killing 20 children and six adults. The result: She has just launched an Adopt a Cop fund benefiting the traumatized officers.
 
According to the union representing the police, those suffering from post-traumatic stress are not entitled to workers' compensation benefits under the current town statute and have been forced to use sick and vacation time.
 
"The insurer for the town has taken a position that these officers are entitled to only what the statute allows," Eric Brown, an attorney for Council 15 of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, said last week. "Unfortunately for these officers, the statute doesn't allow any benefits." According to Brown, about 15 police officers have been unable to work due to trauma.
 
Brown is hoping state lawmakers will push to change the statute for those who responded to the Newtown shootings when the 2013 legislative session begins on Jan. 9.
 
Until then, a liaison for the Newtown Police Department told Antignani that money raised through her yoga studio's Adopt a Cop fund could be converted into Walmart gift cards, so that the officers and their families can purchase food and other items while they remain out of work.
 
"Walmart was suggested by the liaison as the place where most Newtown officers would shop," Antignani explained. She's raised more than $180 so far.
 
"I don't know how much is needed," Antignani added. "Anything I can get together with the generous help of my students, friends and family is a good start."
 
Local police departments have been pitching in, too. On Christmas Day, officers from neighboring towns, including Shelton, offered to work in Newtown so officers there could spend the holiday with their families.

Illinois Moves to Outlaw Modern Firearms and Criminalize Owners          

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com possible shock jock story
January 2, 2012


Legislation will also target shooting ranges.Illinois Senate President John Cullerton will reportedly introduce a draconian bill today in the Illinois legislature that will effectively ban all modern firearms, criminalize their owners, and subject their guns to confiscation by the Illinois State Police.

The proposed outlawing of firearms was confirmed by the NRA’s Illinois rep, according to Robert Farago, writing for The Truth About Guns website.

The move coincides with a federal effort by Senator Dianne Feinstein to introduce legislation outlawing semiautomatic firearms and imposing de facto confiscation.

From the Illinois State Rifle Association:

Based on what we know about Cullerton’s bill, firearms that would be banned include all semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Pump action shotguns would be banned as well. This would be a very comprehensive ban that would include not only so-called ‘assault weapons’ but also such classics as M1 Garands and 1911-based pistols. There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering. You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the State Police to avoid prosecution.

Folks monitoring the effort to disembowel the Second Amendment in the Land of Lincoln say the bill has a 50-50 chance of passage. They advise gun owners both in and out-of-state to call Senate President Cullerton at 217-782-2000 and contact state representatives at ilga.gov.

In addition to outlawing a large number of firearms, the legislation will target shooting ranges in the state. “Not only are they going after semi-autos and magazines, but they are going after ranges,” the Illinois Carry website reports.

more: http://www.infowars.com/illinois-moves-to-outlaw-modern-firearms-and-criminalize-owners/

"Outlaw modern firearms"? What does that mean? A ban on ANY firearms made in modern times? That won't fly.

The courts have already ruled while some restrictions are possible, outright bans are not. We just went through this not long ago and I think it was the DC ban that was overturned.

But here's the deal; if the public doesn't know any different constitutionally, politicians will get away with it.

A government that wants to disarm their public is a government that lives in fear of it's population.

Shock jock story I think is a real possibility, because I don't see how such a ban could come close to passing, but it would still be unconstitutional.

White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings


The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.

To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.

The Biden group, formed last month after the massacre at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that killed 20 children and six adults, plans to submit a package of recommendations to President Obama this month. Once Obama’s proposals are set, he plans to lead a public-relations offensive to generate popular support.

“They are very clearly committed to looking at this issue comprehensively,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, who has been involved in the discussions. The proposals under consideration, he added, are “a deeper exploration than just the assault-weapons ban.”

The gun-control push is just one part of an ambitious political agenda that Obama has pledged to pursue after his decisive reelection victory in November, including comprehensive immigration reform, climate-change legislation and long-term deficit reduction. Obama also faces a reshuffling of his Cabinet, and a looming debate over the nation’s debt ceiling that will compete for his time and attention in the coming months.

In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

“Simply coming up with one or two aspects of it really falls short of the magnitude of the gun issue in the country,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum.

Wexler was among a dozen law enforcement leaders who met with Biden and other administration leaders in the aftermath of the Dec. 14 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. The Dec. 20 summit, which stretched an hour beyond an allotted one hour, included Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

Biden “wanted to talk to us about the assault-weapons ban, automatic weapons, high-capacity magazines,” said Hennepin County (Minn.) Sheriff Richard Stanek, president of the Major County Sheriffs’ Association.

The vice president said the White House group would consider a variety of proposals — from requiring background checks for all gun buyers to creating a new database that would allow the ATF to track all gun sales, according to participants.

Stanek said the meeting also included significant discussion of mental-health issues, violence in video games and movies, and the poor quality of information contained in databases used to conduct criminal background checks before issuing gun permits.

Some of the options the administration is considering may not ultimately be included in Obama’s package. A White House spokesman said Biden’s group was in the midst of its review and has made no decisions on its final recommendations.

Politically rocky terrain

The White House is also developing strategies to navigate the rocky and emotionally fraught terrain of gun politics once final policy decisions are made. The administration is quietly talking with a diverse array of interest groups, including religious leaders, mental-health professionals and hunters, to build as broad a coalition as possible, those involved in the discussions said.

The president is expected to face fierce opposition from the NRA and its allies in Congress, including most Republicans and some Democrats.

But Biden signaled to those involved in the policy discussions that the White House is not afraid of taking on the NRA, the nation’s largest gun rights group. At the Dec. 20 meeting, according to Stanek, when one law enforcement leader suggested focusing on only the most popular proposals, Biden responded: “Look, what I’m asking you for is your candid opinion and ideas about extreme gun violence. Leave the politics to the president. That’s our job with Congress.”

NRA officials declined a request for comment. In response to the shooting in Newtown, Wayne LaPierre, the group’s executive vice president, called for installing armed police officers in every school.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” LaPierre said at a news conference Dec. 21.

One potential strategy would be to win support for specific measures from interest groups that are normally aligned with the NRA, according to one person who works closely with the administration on gun-related issues and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity.

For instance, this person suggested, Wal-Mart and other major gun retailers may have an incentive to support closing a loophole that allows people to bypass background checks if they purchase firearms at gun shows or through other types of private sales. That could result in more people buying guns in retail stores.

Timing is imperative

Obama’s advisers have calculated that the longer they wait, the more distance there is from the Newtown massacre and the greater the risk that the bipartisan political will to tackle gun violence will dissipate.

“This is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview broadcast last Sunday.

At the White House meeting, Stanek said, “the vice president indicated that there was a very short timeline for him to get back to the president with his recommendations because the American public has a short memory.”

Already, three weeks after the Newtown shooting, gun-control advocates are growing impatient with a legislative process that is just beginning.

“As we get involved in these ad nauseam debates over the Second Amendment, our children are still at risk,” said Jon Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. “Debating is not the action verb we need to protect our children.”

With the start of the 113th Congress last week, several lawmakers filed bills to address gun violence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who co-wrote a 1994 assault-weapons ban that expired in 2004, plans to introduce legislation this month that would ban the sale or manufacture of about 120 firearms, including semiautomatic rifles and military-style handguns, as well as ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds.

The expired federal assault-weapons ban prohibited the manufacturing of 19 models of semiautomatic guns classified as assault weapons, including certain rifles and shot guns. The law also banned ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. But it did not ban the sale of previously manufactured assault weapons or high-capacity magazines.

Since the law’s sunset, efforts in Congress over the past decade to reinstate the ban have faced stiff opposition from the NRA and the firearms industry and have never passed.

Adler, who has submitted recommendations to Biden’s group, said he has told administration officials that they need to pursue multiple measures to increase their chances of success.

“We can’t put all our protection-effort eggs in one basket with one piece of legislation,” he said. “We’ve got to do more than that.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-weighs-broad-gun-control-agenda-in-wake-of-newtown-shootings/2013/01/05/d281efe0-5682-11e2-bf3e-76c0a789346f_print.html

 ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IAsVmzBX8F0

How is a fake pic in a British newspaper proof this is all fake?

The point of the video is that some woman's young daughter was taken from off of her facebook(or something like that) page and was put as one of the victims of the CT shooting.

That is quite common in BRITTISH trash rags, but I fail to see how that shows this shooting was fake?

For the record, no, this shooting was NOT fake(I don't see how anyone could think this). However, I do feel they brought in a number of "actors" made as witnesses into the MSM to juice things up, make it look like a "lone wolf" did it, and ultimately to help push for agendas like gun control/gun confiscation.(ie-the Parkers, that middle aged guy FOX News did a long interview with, the young blond haired teacher, etc)

With that being said - don't be surprised that the next FF school shooting happens in a heavily gun rights state like Texas, where ultimately the NWO minions could have more ammunition to push their gun control agenda.

Mom hides children, shoots intruder 5 times...
http://myfox8.com/2013/01/06/ga-mom-shoots-intruder-5-times-saves-children/

CHICAGOLAND: Gun Shops Report Empty Cases, Bare Shelves, Phones Ringing Off Hook...
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/04/gun-store-owners-inventory-flying-off-the-shelves-amid-legislative-debate/

Show Draws Thousands Looking to Stock Up in CA...
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Ontario-Convention-Center-Crossroads-of-the-West-Gun-Show-Firearms-185769562.html

8,000 flock in Florida...
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Orlando-gun-show-sales-reach-record-amidst-control-debate/-/1637132/18025678/-/45x3e3/-/index.html

Buchanan warns of 'revolution'...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/01/05/buchanan_there_would_be_a_revolution_if_government_confiscated_weapons.html

I saw the 2 videos posted over guns Mike did - this is just a minor gripe on my part, but I wish he would acknowledge this shooting(as well as the other shootings like Aurora and Giffords) were false flags, as there's pretty hard evidence the CT shooting was. But yes, if that alleged shooter wasn't saved prior to his death, he's in Hell, I agree with that.

Again, it's only a minor gripe on my part.

what evidence is there that the CT shooting was a FF?

You mean fake? I didn't say it was that - but there's just no evidence that that one autism teen did it all by himself. Not that I trust youtube videos, but even news footage recorded all kinds of stuff that made the whole "the lone wolf did it" look rather suspicious.

As for that autism boy doing it all by himsef - autism people have temper tandrums, and even can get physical at times, but they are FRIGHTENED by loud loises, which is why they wouldn't even touch a gun with a 10 foot pole. And for that matter too, they're not exactly a threat to hurt people to this extent.

But again, this isn't my issue with Hoggard - as much as I'm weary of him now, I thought he did a good job with these 2 videos on guns.

Also - FF or no, you can't deny all the violent entertainment and kicking God out of public schools are reaping its ugly head now over what we're seeing now.

I dont know where your getting your information from, but your knowledge of Autistic people is WAY off. Ive yet to see one shred of evidence that this was a FF in anyway possible.

Gene Rosen’s changing story about kids “showing up” on his lawn. Gene Rosen lying about being clueless that something was going on when his house is within eyeshot of the SH firehouse, a major staging area packed with vehicles that day. Media interviewing the principal about the shooting, then correcting the story after it was reported that she died. RIP Facebook page set up four days before the shooting, then deleted and changed after it was pointed out. Donation pages set up the day of the shooting. At least 2 people lurking in the woods by the school on video, one arrested – still unidentified. Why do the authorities need to withhold evidence from the public? Dead shooter – no trial. Same as Port Arthur.

Would you say that it’s all circumstantial?

Autism is in my family - just speaking from experiences(and from various books I've read). We took him to a gun range one time, and he got pretty scared despite the ear muffs on him. He's also scared of fireworks and being around loud noises. He can get physical and throw tandrums, but is not the kind to go out and significantly hurt someone. But this is from my own experiences.(and will leave it at that)

Anyhow - as for this being a FF, will discuss it in the CT shooting thread, but will say there was just so much suspicious activity during that day, and all of those being interviewed on the MSM looked suspicious as well.(but that's just me - let everyone be pursuadeth by his own mind)

I would say a big portion of it is. Was there a conspiriacy? Sure was, but not in the sence people are thinking. Many things get reported in the first couple hours of anything, and most of that stuff turns up to be wrong. Not a conspiracy, just bad reporting, as everyone wants the scoop. The people lurking in the woods were just that, curious bystanders. I do not put to much faith in when people report facebook pages that come and go.


Its been that way since the beginning of time. Just what was the serpent in the garden? we are not told, first crime in history and we are not given the full story.

This is a tragic crime, that is being EXPLOITED by any one and everyone that it gives an edge up on. but its just that, a tragic crime.

My son, who is autistic, isnt afraid of anything like that. He actually likes it. Hes scarred of cherrios, but not loud noises, or guns being fired. He likes fireworks. So hopefully you can see how making a blanket statement like you made does not fit the situation. Now my dog is gun shy, loud noises scare him. Most dogs are not gun shy. So you saying that this was all fake because he was autistic is just plane wrong.

I understand what you're saying.

But for the record, no, I don't think the shooting itself was fake. There's parts of it that doesn't add up(ie-it doesn't appear any one person could have pulled off killing 26 people alone). And it didn't sit well with me when they showed photos of Obama and the Parkers smiling and laughing together. And I'll admit I went a bit overboard with the autism angle(which I apologize for), b/c I was going with my own experiences, instead of further research on this subject.(ie-the books I mentioned were older ones written by mainstream psychiatrists, who said nothing about vaccines and MSG)

Ultimately, we can all agree that these tragedies are used by the NWO to further their draconian agendas(ie-gun control, alot like with Columbine). Which is why I thought Hoggard actually did a good job in his last broadcast exposing the spiritual side of all of this(comparing scripture with scripture) without going into any FF theories. I would give Pastor Mike's broadcast an A-, but everything he said in here just flies in the face over what he preached 2 years ago, which is why it deserves a solid B instead.

Its statements like this that i do not understand. Why? Why do you think 1 person could not have done this?

Just a perception of mine - personally, I can't see how only 1 person, but it doesn't mean I'm right on this or anything.

ASIDE from this...let's also look at other variables...for example, all the violent entertainment like movies, music, and video games, which have flooded the market ever since I was a young boy in the 80's.

While I don't endorse violent entertainment at all, at the same time, it's not like every single person that participates in these things shoots up schools. HOWEVER, you can't deny that it has really transformed the minds of our youth over the long haul. It's these types of entertainment products that has darkened minds and souls, disensithized minds and souls, etc, etc.

I guess it's no surprise that in today's world, not only there are many megachurches, but they are runned by young 30 year olds who have no discernment between good and evil. Largely b/c this crowd has been exposed to alot of this stuff since the MTV/Seinfeld years. And overall it seems like the public at large seems to be apathetic over what happened at Sandy Hook(ie-you walk into any church, and it seems like noone knows anything about this event).

Weren't the Columbine shooters playing violent video games and obsessed with the Matrix? It was also reported the Sandy Hook shooter was addicted to video games.

And then throw in the pharmaceutical drugs that has transformed minds and souls over the long haul as well.

Again, I'm not endorsing Pastor Mike, but he brought up some very good points in his Giffords shooting broadcast over our Eph 6:12 battle(without getting into FF theories).

Rom 12:2  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Bank of America Freezes Gun Manufacturer's Account, Company Owner Claims

Bank of America has reportedly frozen the account of gun manufacturer American Spirit Arms, according to its owner, Joe Sirochman.

In a Facebook post dated December 29, Sirochman wrote the following:

“My name is Joe Sirochman owner of American Spirit Arms...our Web site orders have jumped 500 percent causing our Web site e-commerce processing larger deposits to Bank of America. So they decided to hold the deposits for further review.

“After countless hours on the phone with Bank of America, I finally got a manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for further review -- her exact words were -- ‘We believe you should not be selling guns and parts on the Internet.’”(emphasis added)

Sirochman also wrote that he told the bank manager that “they have no right to make up their own new rules and regs” and that “[American Spirit is a] firearms manufacturer with all the proper licensing.”

He also noted that he has been doing business with Bank of America for over 10 years, but will now be looking for a new bank.

According to Unlawful News, this isn't the first time Bank of America has targeted a customer involved in the firearms industry.

McMillan Group International was reportedly told that its business was no longer welcome after the company started manufacturing firearms – even after 12 years of doing business with the bank.

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/bank-america-freezes-gun-manufacturers-account-company-owner-claims

Indeed circumstantial, however, evidence is objective. It takes all the pieces to make a case. Till then, it's just a theory.

That said, there are several things in the case that raises the eyebrow, like how fast they had a shooter's name on the news. Is that evidence of a FF? Nope, not by itself. It can just as easily be like Mark said, "trying to get the scoop" on a story and somebody knew somebody, and so it goes.

Pretty much most of these events are what they are, till certain people make it something else for all kinds of reasons. It's easy for us as we know what drives evil in the world. We know also when and by Whom it will be put to an end. Jesus will take care of all this stuff in His time, so knowing this, we see how He has been merciful by showing us the truth, thus we have no fear of what's coming on the earth.

FAU prof stirs controversy by disputing Newtown massacre

 communication professor known for conspiracy theories has stirred controversary at Florida Atlantic University with claims that last month's Newtown, Conn., school shootings did not happen as reported — or may not have happened at all.

Moreover, James Tracy asserts in radio interviews and on his memoryholeblog.com. that trained "crisis actors" may have been employed by the Obama administration in an effort to shape public opinion in favor of the event's true purpose: gun control.

"As documents relating to the Sandy Hook shooting continue to be assessed and interpreted by independent researchers, there is a growing awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults was intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends," writes Tracy, a tenured associate professor of media history at FAU and a former union leader.

 ::) thanx AJ

rest of this mess: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-fau-prof-newtown-20130107,0,4267958.story

Cuomo Close To Announcing Sweeping New Gun Control Laws
Governor Working On Deal That Would Go After Assault Weapons, Magazines

A deal to give New York one of the toughest gun control laws in the nation is being negotiated by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who, sources said Tuesday, is hoping to announce the plan Wednesday during his State of the State speech in Albany.

Cuomo hopes to jump-start the 2013 legislative session with a big deal that could dramatically alter gun control laws across the state.

Highly placed sources told CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer that Cuomo is negotiating with Assembly and Senate leaders for a package of gun control laws that would be a dramatic response to the gun violence besetting the nation, including the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

“It’s a very divisive topic,” Cuomo said on Wednesday. “There’s a lot of energy on both sides. Some people are vehemently against’ some people think we’re out of our minds for not passing it.”

Sources told Kramer the governor and lawmakers are negotiating furiously in the hope that Cuomo can announce a deal during his speech Wednesday.

Sources said the package is expected to include:

* New restrictions on assault weapons

* Stiffer penalties for using a gun to commit a crime

* New limits on the number of bullets in a gun magazine

“Gun control is highly political, politically contentious situation. It is polarizing,” Cuomo said.

rest: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/08/exclusive-cuomo-close-to-announcing-sweeping-new-gun-control-laws/

Yep all those new laws are going to stop gun violence, because the guy in Sandy Hook, he didnt break any laws, he didnt murder his mom and steal her weapons.

Exactly! Since when do criminals and psychopaths obey gun laws? This is all so so stupid.

And notice how they meet in private to "hammer out a deal". Where is the public on this? Aren't "representatives" of the people suppose to do the bidding of the very people they represent? In practice, no, politicians instead decide what they will do, then tell the public how it will be, and so here we are.

How many ways and examples do people need to admit that prohibition does not work, ever. So long as you deny the public, it's only the criminals that have it, and prohibition has never stopped access, it just funnels it down to select people behind the scenes. It literally creates a black market every time. History proves it.

http://news.yahoo.com/walmart-gives-meeting-biden-gun-proposals-154022259.html

Walmart Gives in to Meeting with Biden on Gun Proposals
By Alexander Abad-Santos | The Atlantic Wire – 1 hr 38 mins ago

Less than a day after Walmart said it was too busy to meet with Vice President Joe Biden and his commission on gun-legislation proposals, the nation's largest gun seller has had a change of heart: Walmart will send a representative to a White House meeting on Thursday. CNN's Ali Velshi has the scoop:
 
BREAKING: Walmart, having seen the light, now WILL attend Thurs' gun mtg at the White House
— Ali Velshi (@AliVelshi) January 9, 2013

On Tuesday, the big box retailer cited a scheduling conflict and said they wouldn't attend the policy-making conversation with Biden, his task force, and "with gun-ownership organizations and sportsmen's groups." The decision, first reported by The Wall Street Journal Tuesday night, drew immediate criticism — that the largest gun retailer in America would skip a meeting even the NRA was schedule to attend ... well that was just bad for business:
 
Blood all over #Walmart hands RT @theatlanticwire: Walmart's Too Busy to Talk to Joe Biden About Gun Control flip.it/FcPjw
— DJ Asson (@djasson) January 9, 2013
Of course, Walmart officials changing their minds might not change those sorts of reactions.

http://news.yahoo.com/walmart-gives-meeting-biden-gun-proposals-154022259.html

Biden: Executive orders, action can be taken on guns

Updated: 1:02 p.m. on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Vice President Joseph R. Biden vowed action on gun control from President Obama on Wednesday and floated the idea that Mr. Obama could use executive action to do so.

“The president is going to act,” Mr. Biden said, speaking briefly before a meeting with gun safety and gun victims’ groups Wednesday. “There are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help [of] the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action we believe is required.”

Mr. Biden has been tapped by Mr. Obama tapped to head a task force on gun violence, which is scheduled to deliver recommendations to the president by the end of the month.

“We are vitally interested in what you have to say,” Mr. Biden told the group. “And as the president said, if our actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking. But I’m convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm’s way if we act responsibly.”

“I want to make it clear that we are not going to get caught up in the notion, ‘unless we can do everything, we’re going to do nothing,’” Mr. Biden continued. “It’s critically important we act.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/9/biden-executive-orders-action-can-be-taken-guns/#ixzz2HVHRK8Zi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCYGEdJEi_g

http://news.yahoo.com/biden-meets-gun-safety-victims-groups-165021174--politics.html

1/9/13

Biden meets with gun-safety, victims groups

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday heard personal stories of gun violence from representatives of victims groups and gun-safety organizations as he drafts the Obama administration's response to the shooting at a Connecticut elementary school. He pledged that action would be taken.
 
"I want to make it clear that we are not going to get caught up in the notion (that) unless we can do everything we're going to do nothing," Biden said. "It's critically important (that) we act."
 
The meeting was part of a series Biden is holding this week to build consensus around proposals to curb gun violence after the Dec. 14 shooting in Newtown, Conn. Twenty school children were killed.
 
Biden meets Thursday with the National Rifle Association and other gun-owner groups. Meetings with representatives of the video-game and entertainment industries also are planned.
 
President Barack Obama wants Biden to deliver policy proposals by the end of the month. Obama has vowed to move swiftly on the package, which is expected to include legislative proposals and executive action.
 
Participants in Wednesday's meeting with Biden included the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence and groups from Arizona, Illinois and Wisconsin, states with spates of gun violence that garnered national attention, including the shooting in Arizona of then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Also present were two survivors of the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech that killed 32 people, as well as a stepfather of a victim of last July's massacre at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., in which a dozen people were slain. Attorney General Eric Holder also attended.
 
Dan Gross, the Brady Campaign's president, said afterward that the meeting was "very productive and actually inspiring." He said the administration is trying to figure out how to save many others from losing their lives to gun violence, not take guns away from lawful owners.
 
"Words like comprehensive and broad don't mean taking guns away from law-abiding citizens," Gross said as he stood on the White House driveway with some of those who shared their stories with the vice president. "This is not a debate around the Second Amendment."
 
But as the shock and sorrow over the Newtown, Conn., shooting fades, the tough fight facing the White House and gun-control backers is growing clearer. Gun-rights advocates, including the powerful NRA, are digging in against tighter gun restrictions, conservative groups are launching pro-gun initiatives and the Senate's top Republican has warned it could be spring before Congress begins considering any gun legislation.
 
"The biggest problem we have at the moment is spending and debt," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said this week. "That's going to dominate the Congress between now and the end of March. None of these issues will have the kind of priority as spending and debt over the next two or three months."
 
The killing of 6- and 7-year-olds at Newtown's Sandy Hook Elementary School appeared to stir a deep reaction from the White House and Capitol Hill. Obama pushed gun control to the top of his domestic agenda for the first time and pledged to put the full weight of his presidency behind the issue. Some Republican and conservative lawmakers with strong gun-rights records also took the extraordinary step of calling for a discussion on new measures.
 
But other gun-rights advocates have shown less flexibility. The NRA has rejected stricter gun legislation and suggested instead that the government put armed guards in every U.S. school as a way to curb violence. A coalition of conservative groups is also organizing a "Gun Appreciation Day" to coincide with Obama's inauguration this month.
 
The president hopes to announce his administration's next steps to tackle gun violence shortly after he is sworn in for a second term on Jan. 21.
 
Obama wants Congress to reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, close loopholes that allow gun buyers to skirt background checks and restrict high-capacity magazines. Other recommendations to the Biden group include making gun-trafficking a felony, getting the Justice Department to prosecute people caught lying on gun background-check forms and ordering federal agencies to send data to the National Gun Background Check Database.
 
Some of those steps could be taken through executive action, without the approval of Congress. White House officials say Obama will not finalize any actions until receiving Biden's recommendations.
 
Gun-rights lawmakers and outside groups have insisted that any policy response also include an examination of mental health policies and the impact of violent movies and video games. To those people, the White House has pledged a comprehensive response.
 
"It is not a problem that can be solved by any specific action or single action that the government might take," said White House spokesman Jay Carney said. "It's a problem that encompasses issues of mental health, of education, as well as access to guns."
 
In addition to Biden's meetings this week, Education Secretary Arne Duncan will meet with parent and teacher groups, and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius will meet with mental health and disability advocates.
 
The White House said other meetings are also scheduled with community organizations, business owners and religious leaders.

Mass shooters and meds. What they all have in common.
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 - 10:15am
Nicole Vowell
ketknbc.com video (http://www.ketknbc.com/news/mass-shooters-and-meds-what-they-all-have-in-commo)

By now the entire country is involved in the gun control debate, but guns may not be the issue. With the string of recent mass shootings in our country, all of those shooters had something in common, and it was more than just holding a fire arm in their hand.
 
It could be that many shooters who go on mass killing sprees are misusing prescription medications, such as anti-psychotics.
 
Dr. Joseph Arisco, a private practice Psychiatrist in Tyler tells us, "Anti-psychotic medicine is the most potent medicine that psychiatrists use."
 
And according to professionals, like Dr. David Davis, Pharmacist; sometimes he says, "The side effects are more detrimental than the benefits of taking the medications."
 
These mass shooters in America were all reportedly taking some heavy duty anti-psychotics or other medications during or right before their killing sprees.
 
Aurora, Colorado killer, James Holmes, was reportedly taking a form of Prozac.
 
Adam Lanza, who was responsible for taking innocent children's lives at sandy hook elementary in Connecticut, was reportedly taking a controversial anti-psychotic medicine called “Fantapt.”
 
Even looking back to 1999 one of the shooters, Eric Harris, who was involved in taking a countless number of lives at Columbine High School was allegedly taking a heavy pharmaceutical called “Luvox.”
 
According to Davis, in some cases these meds can induce aggressive behavior rather than inhibit it, Davis says, "In some cases, yes anger, aggression combativeness those type of things increase in those types of patients."
 
The culprit to these mass shooting massacres is yet to be determined. Some think its guns; some think it's the lack of medicine for mental illness. But you can't rule out heavy prescription side effects as a possible cause of behavioral changes especially if taken improperly. Dr. Arisco says, “Anti-psychotics do not cause psychosis and do not cause people to become more psychotic. Now could that happen while you're taking those medicines of course it could."
 
Both Doctors Davis, and Arisco say, your mental health is important. Taking the right dosage of medicine is important and consulting with your doctor regularly while on medications like anti-psychotics is the best way to control, inhibit and reduce any adverse side effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHlJ3tY7ViM

I see NBC has picked up the lie started by the fake uncle. Lanza taking that med is not true, yet the media apparently is going to run with it anyway. Typical.

WHITE HOUSE THREATENS 'EXECUTIVE ORDERS' ON GUNS...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html

'The president is going to act'...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/9/biden-executive-orders-action-can-be-taken-guns/

BANG BANG: CUOMO TO ANNOUNCE SWEEPING GUN LAWS...
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/observers-see-2016-in-andrew-cuomo-speech-85983.html

Hysterical governor expects rest of country to follow...
http://politicker.com/2013/01/cuomo-vows-to-enact-the-toughest-assault-weapon-in-the-nation-period/

'No One Needs 10 Bullets To Kill A Deer!!'
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/09/cuomos-state-of-the-state-to-include-gun-control/

NRA President Fires Back...
http://politicker.com/2013/01/nra-president-fires-back-at-cuomo/

Clinton Turns Tech Speech Into Gun Rant...
http://betabeat.com/2013/01/bill-clinton-ces-gun-control-samsung-tech-gap/

Iowa lawmaker calls for confiscation...
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/

CT lawmaker calls for background checks to buy ammo...
http://www.wfsb.com/story/20535647/calls-for-gun-control-grow-after-shooting-in-norwich

Gun sales soar in Atlanta...
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/gun-sales-and-permit-applications-going-strong/nTqds/

'Folks are grabbing just about any they can get hands on'...
http://freebeacon.com/gun-sales-skyrocket-in-savannah/

Utah town to encourage arming households...
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/20537498/utah-town-makes-arming-households-a-top-priority

Ted Nugent unloads...
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/ted-nugent-gun-owners-the-next-rosa-parks/

PANIC: One Million AR-15 Magazines on Backorder...
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/panic-one-million-ar-15-magazines-backorder

Police: Store clerk's gun beats thief's cattle prod...
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/20547465/police-fla-clerks-gun-beats-thiefs-cattle-prod#axzz2HX1lOhtw

PRAVDA: America, 'Never give up your guns'...
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/

'THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED'
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130110/DA3N0POG2.html

Hey MORON!!! The whole reason to ARM the population was so they could remove morons like you. It was never so they could hunt deer, or chase chickens. It was so the PEOPLE could fight against a corrupt government. Learn so history moron.

Also the reason most states do not have gun registration? Is because the N@ZIS knew where to go get the weapons when they disarmed their population. History just always repeats itself....

Professor won’t back down from Newtown massacre conspiracy theory

A media professor at Florida Atlantic University who is questioning the Sandy Hook massacre has caused controversy with his conspiracy claims.

James Tracy, who writes a personal blog about conspiracy theories, believes the events that unfolded at Sandy Hook did not happen as reported.

The professor writes on his blog, Memory Hole, “While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.” He suggests that there were multiple shooters and that the number of dead is incorrect. The blog post was published on the Global Research site, where it caught the attention of the Web.

The academic, who is known for his conspiracy theories on 9/11 and the Oklahoma bombing, believes—as he claims on his blog and recently stated on a radio show—that trained “crisis actors” may have been employed by the Obama administration to shape public opinion on gun control.

The 47-year-old, who holds a Ph.D. from the University of Iowa in mass communication, wrote on his blog, “ As documents relating to the Sandy Hook shooting continue to be assessed and interpreted by independent researchers there is a growing awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults was intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends.”

According to his faculty profile, the professor "teaches courses examining the relationship between commercial and alternative news media and socio-political issues and events." He also lists his recent work in “Censored 2013: Sourcebook for the Media Revolution. The Top Censored Stories and Media Analysis of 2011-2012."

When questioned about his theories by a local CBS12 news reporter, Tracy responded, "The whole country mourned about Sandy Hook, but yet again the investigation that journalistic institutions should have carried out never took place, in my opinion."

He added, "As a society we need to look at things more carefully. Perhaps we as a society have been conditioned to be duped."

His blog, with 222 followers, lays out his theory in detail, suggesting that it was a training exercise in which actually nobody was killed. He writes, "To declare that the shooting 'never took place' is cause for intense opprobrium in most polite circles where, in familiar Orwellian fashion, the media-induced trance and dehistoricized will to believe maintain their hold."

Speaking on behalf of Tracy, Peter Phillips, president of the Media Freedom Foundation and Project Censored, said in a statement to Yahoo News:

    James Tracy isn't promoting a "conspiracy" theory regarding Sandy Hook, but rather saying the mainstream media distorts the news, and doesn't follow up on important questions. There were reports of more than one shooter in the Sandy Hook case. Tracy is not denying that it happened, but he is saying that when such events do happen it is the responsibility of the media to fully investigate all aspects of the story and not just sensationalize the tragedy.

Tracy’s employer has distanced itself from its faculty member’s remarks. Mary Jane Saunders, the president of Florida Atlantic University, said in a statement to Yahoo News that reads in part:

    I am sure that many of you are aware of the recent comments by a Florida Atlantic University faculty member regarding the tragic events that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on December 14. I want to make it clear that those views and opinions are not shared by Florida Atlantic University, and I am personally saddened by any media stories that have added to the pain felt by the victims’ families. FAU joins the entire nation and people around the world in feeling profound grief for the lives lost on that awful day.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/professor-won-t-back-down-newtown-massacre-conspiracy-183530799.html

http://www.foodworldnews.com/articles/3281/20121228/sandy-hook-victim-hoax-unveiled-fake-facebook-page-fake-uncle-adam-lanza-arrested.htm

12/28/12

Sandy Hook Victim Hoax Unveiled: Fake Facebook Page, Fake 'Uncle' of Adam Lanza Arrested

Excerpt:

In another hoax, a convicted felon who traveled to Newtown, Conn. and posed as the uncle of Lanza was arrested on a federal probation violation charge, according to TheSmokingGun.
 
Jonathan Lee Riches, 35, was busted last week and booked into Chester County Jail. On Dec. 16, two days after the school massacre, Riches drove to Connecticut and sought to visit the home of gunman Adam Lanza. He videotaped part of the trip and uploaded clips to his YouTube page.
 
Riches also made a makeshift memorial site in Newtown, where he identified himself to reporters as "Jonathan Lanza," uncle of the school shooter. He also told journalists that Lanza had been taking Fanapt, an antipsychotic drug prescribed for the treatment of schizophrenia.

OK, this is very weird - apparently, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA made a deal with Obamacare(and Harry Reid, who's supposedly pro-gun rights) stating some provision that ?gun owners will be left alone in a provision in Obamacare? Although Larry Pratt of GOA didn't buy any of it at all.

Please watch this 3 minute CNN clip and give your thoughts on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6VKe2bNDkE

http://www.cchrint.org/2011/02/02/these-popular-drugs-can-make-you-violent-%E2%80%93-avoid-them/
These Popular Drugs Can Make You Violent – Avoid Them
FoodConsumer.com
 by Dr. Mercola

Some medications have been linked to an increased risk for violent, even homicidal behavior. A recent study identified 31 drugs that are disproportionately linked with violent behavior.  Time Magazine lists the top ten offenders:
 1.Varenicline (Chantix): The number one violence-inducing drug on the list, this anti-smoking medication is 18 times more likely to be linked with violence when compared to other drugs
 2.Fluoxetine (Prozac): This drug was the first well-known SSRI antidepressant
 3.Paroxetine (Paxil): Another SSRI antidepressant, Paxil is also linked with severe withdrawal symptoms and a risk of birth defects
 4.Amphetamines: (Various): Used to treat ADHD
 5.Mefoquine (Lariam): A treatment for malaria which is often linked with reports of strange behavior
 6.Atomoxetine (Strattera): An ADHD drug that affects the neurotransmitter noradrenaline
 7.Triazolam (Halcion): This potentially addictive drug is used to treat insomnia
 8.Fluvoxamine (Luvox): Another SSRI antidepressant
 9.Venlafaxine (Effexor): An antidepressant also used to treat anxiety disorders
 10.Desvenlafaxine (Pristiq): An antidepressant which affects both serotonin and noradrenalin
 
How legal drugs affect your mental state is a very important issue that is not getting the attention it deserves. In recent years, prescription rates for antidepressants and related drugs have skyrocketed.
...
Whereas severe depression can indeed progress to suicide if left untreated, antidepressant drugs have been shown  to CAUSE both suicidal and homicidal thoughts and behaviors

http://www.plosone.org/article/slideshow.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0015337&imageURI=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0015337.t001

Chantix is a whopping 18 times more likely to be linked with violence compared to other drugs, with 408 reported incidents.
 
These figures were collected from the US FDA’s Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), and it’s well worth noting here that only an estimated one to 10 percent of all side effects are ever reported to VAERS. So the fact that 408 acts of violence were linked to the drug and then actually reported is pretty amazing, considering the fact that the vast majority of side effects, regardless of what they are, are blamed on something else and connections are brushed aside as “coincidental.”
...

Biden to Offer Gun Proposals by Tuesday

By MICHAEL D. SHEAR
Published: January 10, 2013

WASHINGTON — Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. will present President Obama with proposals for stemming gun violence by Tuesday, setting in motion legislative and executive actions that will encompass guns, ammunition, mental health services and violent images in popular culture.

 “I have committed to him I will have his recommendations to him by Tuesday,” Mr. Biden said Thursday as he began meetings with sportsman and hunting groups to discuss the gun issue.

Mr. Biden did not say whether he would recommend a renewal of the 1994 assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. But he cited several other measures, including efforts to limit the availability of high-capacity magazines and the need for what he called “near universal background checks” that would go beyond doing checks at gun shows.

More: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/us/politics/biden-to-meet-with-gun-advocates-including-nra.html?_r=0

Biden Hints at Outlawing Unregulated 'Private' Gun Sales
Closing "the gun show loophole."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-hints-outlawing-unregulated-private-gun-sales_695080.html

12:56 PM, Jan 10, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER

Vice President Joe Biden, in remarks today before a meeting on guns, suggested the Obama administration is seriously considering outlawing unregulated "private" gun sales:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=37t-hCS9Zsw

"And so the kinds of things that there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me but coming from the groups we've met with," said Biden today, before a closed door meeting on gun control. "And I'm going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership and the type of weapons can be owned. And one is, there is a surprising -- so far -- a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. Not just close the gun show loophole but total, universal background checks, including private sales."

Biden will present his recommendations on gun control to the president on Tuesday.

If the blind follow the blind, both shall fall into a ditch...let them alone...

http://washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gains-100000-new-paid-members-in-18-days/article/2518123

NRA gains 100,000 new paid members in 18 days

January 10, 2013 | 9:35 am

The National Rifle Association reveals this morning that it has gain over 100,000 new paid members in the past 18 days as their membership has jumped from 4.1 million to 4.2 million.

“Our goal is to get to 5 million before this debate is over,” a member of the organization tells Playbook this morning.

The English citizens have a message for Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ZvwPmjJu4

Yeah, and Biden is talking about doing it by Executive Order. Uh, no.

Circumventing the Constitution with executive orders is still unconstitutional.

http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/school-shooting-survival-training-held-in-so-cal
School shooting survival training held in So. Cal
Posted: 01/09/2013
Last Updated: 1 day ago

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - Officials from Southern California colleges and schools are being trained in how to survive an attack by a campus gunman.
 
A two-day seminar concluded Tuesday with a simulated gunman stalking a dormitory at San Diego State University. About two dozen participants from school districts and universities in San Diego County, Los Angeles and Bakersfield, along with some police and private security personnel, took part.

They practiced barricading doors, hiding, escaping and confronting the gunman.

The seminar was planned months before December's Connecticut school massacre. In the wake of that attack, the San Diego school board on Tuesday ordered a safety review of all campuses. Staff will report back on ways to improve school safety and security in the event of attacks, fires, earthquakes or other disasters.

http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/csub-joins-several-southern-california-universities-in-attending-school-shooting-training-workshop
CSUB joins several southern California universities in attending school shooting training workshop
CSUB attends SDSU training seminar
Posted: 01/10/2013

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - Practice makes perfect. But in the case of school shootings, practice can mean the difference between life and death.

That's why San Diego State University held a training workshop to teach students and staff how to handle an on campus shooter.  Public safety officials from universities all over California attended, including California State University Bakersfield officials, who traveled the farthest.

The two-day workshop was led by Response Options, a critical incident response company specializing in active shooter and violent intruder events.

Students, staff and public safety officials were taught to proactively handle violent intruder and active shooter situations using the A.L.I.C.E. program (Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, Evacuate).

They may need to flee, they may need to hide, but they may also need to fight," said Response Options instructor Kerry Harris.  Participants learned simple tricks like throwing things at a gunman already in the room or barricading a door shut.

CSUB police chief Marty Williamson and another CSUB officer attended the workshop. Williamson said the best weapon in that situation is preparation and practice. "Infrastructure is only going to get you so far. It's the human element that will get people to survive. It's a mindset and actions taken," said Williamson.

CSUB students said they welcome any training that can give them a fighting chance.   

"I think it's fabulous because in todays world we need that extra training for our safety and all the students here and faculty," said CSUB student Marissa Torrigiani.

"Our first and foremost is the safety and security of the people on our campus. They're here to get educated, not to worry about something happening," said Williamson.  Williamson said CSUB regularly undergoes similar training.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/georgia-republican-rep-phil-gingrey-favors-gun-control-162924309--politics.html

Georgia GOP Rep. Phil Gingrey favors gun control, discusses Akin’s **** remarks

Speaking at a local Chamber of Commerce breakfast on Thursday morning in his home state, Georgia Republican Rep. Phil Gingrey addressed some heavy issues, including the need for gun control in the wake of deadly shootings throughout the country, and former Missouri Rep. Todd Akin's controversial comments on the campaign trail last year about ****, saying Akin was "partly right."
 
As reported in the Marietta Daily Journal, Gingrey, a member of the conservative Republican Study Committee, said he would be open to some measures restricting high-capacity magazines and enforcing more rigorous requirements for background checks at gun shows.
 
“There are some problems, and maybe these huge magazines even for someone who says, ‘Look, I just use an AR-15 for target practice.' But do you really need to be standing there shooting at a silhouette a shot a second or even quicker with that kind of weapon? For what purpose?” Gingrey said, according to the Journal. “I would be willing to listen to the possibility of the capacity of a magazine.”
 
President Barack Obama plans to announce a proposal for stricter gun rules next week, and Gingrey's openness to an overhaul could help propel the Democratic administration's messaging effort.

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Iowa lawmaker calls for retroactive gun ban,
confiscation of semi-automatic weapons
http://www.prisonplanet.com/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-ban-confiscation-of-semi-automatic-weapons.html

David Martosko
Daily Caller
January 9, 2013

In an interview with the Daily Times Herald in Caroll, Iowa, state Rep. Dan Muhlbauer said governments should start confiscating semi-automatic rifles and other firearms.

Muhlbauer, a Democrat from the western Iowa town of Manilla, is a cattleman and farmer. The newspaper reported that he owns a .410 shotgun, a .22 rifle and a .22 pistol.

“We cannot have big guns out here as far as the big guns that are out here, the semi-automatics and all of them,” Muhlbauer told the newspaper during a December 19 audiotaped interview. “We can’t have those running around out here. Those are not hunting weapons.”

“We should ban those in Iowa,” he said, adding that such a ban should be applied retroactively.

“We need to get them off the streets — illegally — and even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them,” Muhlbauer told the Daily Times Herald. “We can’t have those out there. Because if they’re out there they’re just going to get circulated around to the wrong people. Those guns should not be in the public’s hands. There are just too many guns.”

Full article here
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/

Larry Pratt, head of Gunowners of America...BEWARE of this guy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Pratt

Excerpts:

In the 1996 U.S. presidential election, Pratt served as a co-chairman of Pat Buchanan's campaign. In February 1996, the liberal Center for Public Integrity issued a report that claimed Pratt spoke at meetings organized by white supremacist and militia leaders. Pratt denied any tie to racism, calling the report a smear aimed at hurting Buchanan before the New Hampshire primary election. However, Pratt was forced to resign his position with the Buchanan campaign

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Larry Pratt has also been listed as a member of the Council for National Policy (CNP).[15][16][17] A January 13, 2001 article in The Guardian explored Pratt's relationship with then-Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft, stating they knew each other from the CNP.[18] The January 11, 2001 edition of TIME Magazine included an article on Pratt and Ashcroft's relationship

Yes, I understand the importance of the 2nd ammendment and the need for citizens to carry concealed weapons, BUT how would arming a mere few janitors solve the issue? No, nothing against janitors, but nonetheless it's not like they have a big staff of them in one school alone, and them alone should be armed? ???

http://news.yahoo.com/could-janitors-one-schools-line-defense-202648003.html

Could janitors be one school's line of defense?

TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — A rural school district in Ohio is drawing attention with its plans to arm a handful of its non-teaching employees with handguns this year — perhaps even janitors.
 
Four employees in the Montpelier schools have agreed to take a weapons training course and carry their own guns inside the district's one building, which houses 1,000 students in kindergarten through 12th grade, school officials said.
 
"It's kind of a sign of the times," Superintendent Jamie Grime said Friday.
 
The Toledo Blade reported that the employees were janitors, but school officials would not confirm that to The Associated Press, saying only that they are employees who don't have direct supervision over the students in the northwest Ohio district.
 
The four employees who will carry guns all volunteered to take part, Grime said. The school plans to pay for them to attend a two-day training course.
 
"Putting a firearm in a school is a huge step," Grime said. "We're going to do it properly. These people need the proper training."
 
The move comes as districts and lawmakers across the nation weigh how to protect students following the school massacre in Newtown, Conn., and after the National Rifle Association called for an armed officer in every U.S. school. The gunman in Newtown used a rifle to kill 20 students and six educators.
 
Lawmakers in South Carolina, Oklahoma, Missouri and South Dakota are looking into legislation that would allow teachers and other school employees to have guns.
 
Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst called Friday for state-funded, specialized firearms training for teachers and administrators. School districts would decide who would carry weapons but not be required to participate, and training would include how to react during a shooting.
 
In Arizona's Maricopa County, Sheriff Joe Arpaio has said he plans to post armed volunteers on school perimeters.
 
Residents in a Dayton, Ohio, suburb crowded into a school meeting this week to talk about whether staff members and teachers should be armed. Reaction was mixed, according to The Dayton Daily News.
 
"We need more good guys with guns. That's the sad reality of the situation," said Jim Rigano, a Springboro school board member.
 
Other states are trying clamp down on gun sales and bans on assault rifles.
 
In Montpelier, school officials began reviewing security plans after Newtown and decided teachers should not be armed because their first priority in an emergency should be locking doors and protecting students, Grime said. The school already has security cameras and locked doors, and requires visitors to be buzzed into the front entrance.
 
The proposal was not announced until just before the board voted unanimously Wednesday to arm a select group of employees after consulting with the local police chief and attorneys who reviewed Ohio's concealed carry law. The law prohibits guns in schools except in a few cases, and allows education boards to authorize someone to carry a gun inside schools.
 
No members of the public spoke out on the measure at the meeting, board President Larry Martin told the Blade. Grime said three people attended.
 
A letter was sent out to parents after the vote. Only three complained, while close to 150 called or sent emails supporting the idea in Montpelier, a remote city of about 4,000 residents along Interstate 80 near the convergence of Ohio, Michigan and Indiana.
 
"It's a place where people hold the Second Amendment close to their hearts," the superintendent said.

http://news.yahoo.com/biden-voices-interest-technology-guns-203705067--politics.html

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Biden voices interest in new technology for guns
By JULIE PACE and ERICA WERNER | Associated Press – 6 hrs ago.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Looking for broader remedies to gun violence, Vice President Joe Biden expressed interest Friday in existing technology that would keep a gun from being fired by anyone other than the purchaser. He said evidence shows such technology may have affected events in Connecticut last month when 20 youngsters and six teachers were gunned down inside their elementary school.
 
"Had the young man not had access to his mother's arsenal, he may or may not have been able to get a gun," said Biden, speaking of the gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who used weapons purchased by his mother to carry out the attack.
 
Biden said the technology exists but is expensive.
 
The vice president spoke during a portion of a meeting with video game industry representatives that was open to media coverage. It was the latest in a series of meetings he's held with interested parties on both sides of the issue as he finalizes the administration's response to the Connecticut shooting.

more

http://news.yahoo.com/biden-seeks-video-game-industry-input-guns-084140637--politics.html

1/11/13

Biden seeks video game industry input on guns

WASHINGTON (AP) — Looking for broader remedies to gun violence, Vice President Joe Biden is reaching out to the video game industry for ideas as the White House seeks to assemble proposals in response to last month's massacre at a Connecticut elementary school.
 
Biden is scheduled to meet with video game representatives Friday as the White House explores cultural factors that may contribute to violent behavior.
 
The vice president, who is leading a task force that will present recommendations to President Barack Obama on Tuesday, met with other representatives from the entertainment industry, including Comcast Corp. and the Motion Picture Association of America, on Thursday.
 
Friday's meeting comes a day after the National Rifle Association rejected Obama administration proposals to limit high-capacity ammunition magazines and dug in on its opposition to an assault weapons ban, which Obama has previously said he will propose to Congress. The NRA was one of the pro-gun rights groups that met with Biden during the day.

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FYI, Brown became the first "Republican" to seek gun control measures after the CT shootings...

http://news.yahoo.com/landscape-shifts-brown-eyes-another-senate-run-085844642--election.html

1/12/13

Landscape shifts as Brown eyes another Senate run

BOSTON (AP) — Three years ago, Scott Brown was a little-known Republican state senator from Massachusetts who shocked Democrats by winning a U.S. Senate seat in a special election that became a national rallying cry for the nascent tea party movement.
 
Much has changed since then for Brown. In the Senate, he compiled a voting record more moderate than his one-time tea party allies would have liked. Just two months ago, voters said a resounding "no" to giving him a full term.
 
Now Brown is considering whether to seize a chance to return to the Senate — in yet another special election — to take the place of Democratic Sen. John Kerry if he is confirmed as secretary of state. Democrats will be more than ready for Brown this time if he does run.
 
"The atmosphere would be completely different," said the state Democratic Party chairman, John Walsh. He acknowledged making "unforgivable mistakes" by taking for granted the race in which Brown won the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's seat.
 
"We are not asleep at the switch anymore," Walsh said.
 
As the Democratic machine begins to stir, national conservative groups active in Brown's first run say they've yet to focus on a Massachusetts Senate election that could be five months away.
 
"It's a different race," says Amy Kremer, national chairman of the Tea Party Express, which funneled a ton of volunteers and more than $340,000 into Brown's 2010 bid.
 
"Conservatives in Massachusetts, I'm sure, are excited and want him, but it's definitely not something that people are focused on across the country," Kremer said. "What happened with him in 2010 was it became a nationalized race and people got excited. But right now, it's not on anybody's radar."
 
Republicans familiar with Brown's thinking expect him to run but say that his candidacy is by no means assured. These Republicans spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose information about Brown's decision-making.
 
Republicans in Washington see Brown as a chance to take a seat from Democrats, who hold a 55-45 edge in the Senate.
 
The date of the special election won't be announced until Kerry resigns upon his confirmation as secretary of state. State officials expect the special election as early as June.
 
Despite the time frame, Brown is in no hurry to make his intentions public, according to his Republican allies. For now, his camp is content to let speculation about his candidacy fuel steady news coverage. Since leaving office Jan. 3, Brown has conferred quietly with Republican operatives Eric Fehrnstrom and Peter Flaherty, top aides to former GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
 
Brown's allies say he is encouraged that a member of the Kennedy family will not run for the seat. Kennedy's widow, Vicki Kennedy, and Edward Kennedy Jr. have said they would not enter the contest.
 
Kerry and Democrats in Washington are backing longtime U.S. Rep. Ed Markey, the only announced candidate, although Markey's popularity outside his north-central Massachusetts district is unclear. First elected in 1976, he is already drawing criticism from Massachusetts' small Republican class.
 
"Ed Markey is an uninspiring, unaccomplished political hack," said Massachusetts-based Republican strategist Ryan Williams, a former Romney aide.
 
If Brown declines to run, there are other possible Republican candidates in the wings, including former Gov. William Weld, former gubernatorial candidate Charles Baker and recent congressional candidate Richard Tisei.
 
In January 2010, Brown faced state Attorney General Martha Coakley in a special election called after Kennedy's death the previous year.
 
With conservatives focusing on a chance to claim the seat Kennedy had held for almost five decades, Brown attacked a favorite conservative target, Obama's health care overhaul, promising to be the pivotal vote to block the plan in a closely divided Senate. However, the Senate approved the bill shortly before the special election, which Brown won.
 
Brown faced liberal stalwart Elizabeth Warren, a consumer advocate disdained by conservatives, in the 2012 contest for a full term. It became the most expensive Senate contest in the nation. Brown lost to Warren by 8 percentage points.
 
Intense national interest in both elections helped send lots of money into Brown's campaign treasury. In 2010, more than 60 percent of his contributions came from outside Massachusetts, which was among the highest rates in the nation, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. In the 2012 cycle, as control of the Senate was thought to depend in part on the Massachusetts race, no Senate incumbent raised more out-of-state money than Brown.
 
Some conservative activists who helped fuel Brown's campaigns have decided that he is not the conservative lawmaker they had hoped he would be.
 
"He had some bad votes, but he had some good votes," said Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity, a conservative organization active in electoral politics across the country.
 
Brown sided with Democrats in supporting Obama's jobs bill and later became one of just three Republicans who voted for the Dodd-Frank law that sought to toughen financial-industry regulations. He also voted for the New START treaty to further limit U.S. and Russian nuclear arsenals.
 
On one make-or-break issue for tea party activists, Brown remained firm: his opposition to the president's health care overhaul. That issue lost some of its power after its passage by Congress in 2010 and the Supreme Court's decision in June 2012 that it was indeed constitutional.
 
So far, there's no conservative rallying cry ahead of the 2013 special election. But in a year with few high-profile elections, Republican strategist Ron Kaufman said, "some things become bigger than they are."
 
"It will be different, but I think that there's still an awful lot of people very, very angry right now at Washington," said Kaufman, Massachusetts' national Republican committeeman. "If they really want to slow down the president, this would be the way to do it."

1/14/13

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-some-gun-control-measures-i-can-accomplish-through-executive-action_695381.html

Obama: Some Gun Control Measures 'I Can Accomplish Through Executive Action'

"I'm confident that there are some steps that we can take that don't require legislation and that are within my authority as president."

Lawmaker Plans Bill To Lift Immunity For Gun Manufacturers And Dealers

by Carrie Johnson
January 14, 2013 9:40 AM

Add this to the list of proposals to overhaul the gun industry: Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., says he will introduce legislation this week to roll back legal immunity for gun manufacturers and dealers.

Schiff tells NPR there's no need for the 2005 law called the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act to remain on the books. That law gave gun makers, gun dealers and trade groups immunity from most negligence and product liability lawsuits. "Good gun companies don't need special protection from the law," Schiff says, "Bad companies don't deserve it."

Schiff says his proposal would allow lawsuits to move through federal and state courts if plaintiffs could show that gun dealers or makers were negligent, for example, by failing to protect their stores of weapons and failing to keep customers who have felony convictions from getting their hands on guns. Schiff is working with the Brady Center, an organization that has pushed for greater accountability for the gun industry, on his legislation. Schiff and the Brady Center say courts have interpreted the 2005 law too broadly and have dismissed lawsuits by victims and their relatives.

"When someone makes a dangerous product or acts negligently, they ought to be held liable otherwise it encourages irresponsibility," Schiff says.

Any such move is expected to be hotly contested by the National Rifle Association, which has called the 2005 PLCAA law "vitally important" to end efforts by gun control groups to "bankrupt the American firearms industry through reckless lawsuits."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/14/169317524/lawmaker-plans-bill-to-lift-immunity-for-gun-manufacturers-and-dealers

Now that is just stupid to say. Companies are already liable for the products. It's called a manufacturer's warranty (typically one year). Federally mandate no less if I'm not mistaken.

What he's really saying is he wants to control the products themselves. It's obvious, but the issue is with control of the product, not how dangerous it may or may not be. And if a company is negligent, there are avenues for dealing with that in court as well. It's all on the law books already.

I agree, this is an attempt to open up manufacturers to law suits so the anti-gun lobby can tie them up in court. It's a known tactic in business. You can guarantee that if there are lawyers involved, there will be law suits.

It sounds like a tactic MADD is using against places that serve alcohol, claiming the bar/server is responsible for the person who was drinking there, once they leave the premises. Seems rather it's, "informed consent". The customer is informed of the risks and dangers of a firearm, but then the buyer is on their own in use of the firearm once they leave the store/seller. If a trigger fails to operate as designed, that's on the manufacturer, but if that same trigger is pulled while aimed at a human being, that is on the bearer of the firearm.

http://news.yahoo.com/54-000-mexicans-sign-petition-us-gun-control-203836993.html

54,000 Mexicans sign petition for US gun control
Associated Press – 1 hr 33 mins ago

MEXICO CITY (AP) — More than 54,000 Mexicans have signed a petition calling on the United States to take further steps to combat weapons trafficking.
 
Mexico says the majority of guns used by the country's violent drug cartels are smuggled over the border from the United States.
 
Mexico's best-known anti-violence activist and a prominent intellectual presented the petition at the U.S. embassy Monday.
 
Activist Javier Sicilia said "The United States is partly responsible for our humanitarian tragedy."
 
About 70,000 people have died in Mexico in drug violence since 2006, according to the written copy of a speech presented by Mexico's interior secretary in December.
 
Before the activists presented their petition, President Barack Obama said Monday he would present a new U.S. gun control plan within days.

I'd like to see their proof it's the majority, but one thing is clear, the US government has been arming the cartels, and got caught, and more than one person's blood is on their hands as a direct result. Has anybody gone to jail? Nope, except cartel members of course. All that's happened on the US side is three state level officials were fired or resigned. And the director of the whole operation got presidential immunity.

Figure that one out!

White House readies 19 executive orders on guns...
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/biden-guns-executive-actions-86187.html?hp=t1_3

CONGRESSMAN WARNS OBAMA: IMPEACH YOU
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/14/gop-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-uses-executive-action-for-gun-control/

Bloomberg urges Obama to defy Congress...he means violate the CONSTITUTION
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4574

FLASHBACK: Charlton Heston: 'From My Cold, Dead Hands!'
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/flashback-charlton-heston-my-cold-dead-hands

Rapper Goes On TWITTER Tirade Against Obama...
http://wxrt.cbslocal.com/2013/01/14/shyne-threatens-obama-with-kanye-west-meltdown-over-chicago-murders/

That Bloomberg is a stone-cold socialist globalist thug. And I agree, he means violate the Constitution, all in the name of the "greater good".

The attitude is do it, even if the House and Senate say no.

If Obama pulls an Executive Order stunt, I'm not sure how people will react, but it clearly would be a violation of the Constitution, making our own president a traitor to the Constitution, which really he already is and subject to arrest for such treason.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't George HW Bush pull an EO on a gun control measure when he was President?

FYI, BEWARE of this guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Stockman

A Houston Chronicle article reminds that "Stockman’s two years in Congress were marked by weirdness, such as an article in Guns & Ammo magazine that appeared under his byline in which he suggested the then-new Clinton administration raided the Branch Davidian compound in Waco on April 19, 1993, to justify a ban on assault weapons.[citation needed] Stockman said, in reports from the Associated Press in May 1995, that he stood by his article, which was published after the bombing on April 19, 1995 of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.[citation needed] A couple of weeks after he defended the article, he told the Associated Press that he regretted writing it, mostly for its timing.

http://www.npr.org/2013/01/15/169385630/n-y-poised-to-be-1st-to-pass-post-massacre-gun-bill?ft=1&f=1014

1/15/13

N.Y. Poised To Be 1st To Pass Post-Massacre Gun Bill

Days after calling for an overhaul of gun control in New York following the Connecticut school shooting, Gov. Andrew Cuomo worked out a tough proposal on gun control with legislative leaders who promised to pass the most restrictive gun law in the nation.

The measure passed the Senate 43-18 on the strength of support from Democrats, many of whom previously sponsored the bills that were once blocked by Republicans.

The Democrat-led Assembly gaveled out before midnight and planned to take the issue up at 10 a.m. Tuesday. It is expected to pass easily.

"This is a scourge on society," Cuomo said Monday night, one month after the Newtown, Conn., shooting that took the lives of 20 first graders and six educators. "At what point do you say, 'No more innocent loss of life.'"

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island. "And there is no confiscation of weapons, which was at one time being considered.

"This is going to go after those who are bringing illegal guns into the state, who are slaughtering people in New York City," Skelos said. "This is going to put people in jail and keep people in jail who shouldn't be out on the street in the first place."

"This will be the toughest gun control package in the nation," said Sen. Jeffrey Klein, leader of the Independent Democrat Conference that shares majority control with Republican senators. "All in all, it is a comprehensive, balanced approach that will save lives," Klein said in an interview.

Cuomo said he wanted quick action to avoid a run on assault rifles and ammunition as he tries to address what he estimates is about 1 million assault rifles in New York state. He made it a centerpiece of his progressive agenda in last week's State of the State address.

Republican Sen. Greg Ball called that political opportunism in a rare criticism of the popular and powerful governor seen by his supporters as a possible candidate for president in 2016.

"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."

The governor confirmed the proposal, previously worked out in closed session, called for a tougher assault weapons ban and restrictions on ammunition and the sale of guns, as well as a mandatory police registry of assault weapons, grandfathering in assault weapons already in private hands.

It would create a more powerful tool to require the reporting of mentally ill people who say they intend to use a gun illegally and would address the unsafe storage of guns, the governor confirmed.

Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two "military rifle" features spelled out in the law. The proposal would reduce that to one feature and include the popular pistol grip.

Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family would be subject to a background check through a dealer. Also Internet sales of assault weapons would be banned, and failing to safely store a weapon could be subject to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.

In another provision, a therapist who believes a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally would be required to report the incident to a mental health director who would have to report serious threats to the state Department of Criminal Justice Services. A patient's gun could be taken from him or her.

The legislation also increases sentences for gun crimes including the shooting of a first responder that Cuomo called the "Webster provision." Last month in the western New York town of Webster, two firefighters were killed after responding to a fire set by the shooter, who eventually killed himself.

Legislators wouldn't comment on the tentative deal or the provisions discussed in closed-door conferences.

"It's a tough vote," said Senate Deputy Majority Leader Thomas Libous of Broome County. "This is a very difficult issue depending on where you live in the state. I have had thousands of emails and calls ... and I have to respect their wishes." He said many of constituents worry the bill will conflict with the Second Amendment's right to bear arms while others anguish over shootings like at Newtown, Conn., and Columbine, Colo.

A vote Monday would come exactly one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six educators inside Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown.

The closed-door meetings prompted about a dozen gun workers to travel more than two hours to Albany to protest the legislation they say could cost 300 to 700 jobs in the economically hard-hit Mohawk Valley.

"I have three small kids myself," said Jamie Rudall, a unionized worker who polishes shotgun receivers. "So I know what it means, the tragedy ... we need to look at ways to prevent that, rather than eliminate the rights of law-abiding citizens."

In the gun debate, one concern for New York is its major gun manufacturer upstate.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve when the two firefighters were slain in Webster. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

Assemblyman Marc Butler, a Republican who represents the area, decried the closed-door meetings by Senate Republicans and the Democratic majority of the Assembly as "politics at its worst."

The bill would be the first test of the new coalition in control of the Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control "has the intensity of the gay marriage issue." In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.

New York Has Gun Deal, With Focus on Mental Ills

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and lawmakers agreed on Monday to a broad package of changes to gun laws that would expand the state’s ban on assault weapons and would include new measures to keep guns away from the mentally ill.

rest: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/nyregion/new-york-legislators-hope-for-speedy-vote-on-gun-laws.html?partner=MYWAY&ei=5065&_r=1&

N.Y. Assembly Speaker Silver: ‘We Are Going To Ban Assault Weapons’
Among New Laws, Gun Owners Would Have To Renew License Every 5 Years

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/14/ap-sources-new-york-has-tentative-deal-on-gun-control/

The n@zi party did the same thing, so they know where to come and get the guns.

 ???

http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-confirmed-wal-mart-is-not-going-to-order-any-more-ammo/#Q9df01EHLdW68zHA.99


BREAKING & CONFIRMED: Wal Mart Is NOT Going To Order Any More Ammo.
 
January 12th, 2013

do not have a link as of yet but here is what I have found out…
 
Stopped by my local Wal Mart this morning. They are out of almost every kind of ammo.
I asked to talk to the person in charge of ordering to see if they had any information on this subject.

The manager I talked to said they had not heard anything…BUT.
She tried to order some .223 as I was standing there. She said the order was being rejected by the corporate office. Said she had never had that happen.
 
She called corporate as I was standing there.
And was told this. “As of right now Wal Mart is not going to be making any new orders of ammo because of the upcoming decision on the second amendment”. Said, “As of right now we are unsure of what new legislation might be coming, and because of this, we are suspending new orders. We will continue to sell what is already in stock in stores and at our distribution centers, but any new orders will not be shipped until the issue is resolved”.
 
So after they run out, there will be no restocking until Obama makes his decision…Hows that change working out for you now?
 
As I said, I dont have a link, but you can call Wal Mart headquarters at 1-800-925-6278 for yourself and ask. After the answer press 2 then 1 then 1 again and wait to talk to a rep. I just did this myself and was told the same thing.
 
Something must have changed at the meeting they had on Thursday.
Guess we will have to wait and see what Obama has in store for us next.
 
Guys, I am not making this up…Call and find out for yourself.
 
Another confirmation:
 
Home - Audio Blogs > WalMart Federal Gun Control
 
I just recorded the audio to me calling the corporation and this is all too real. It all comes back to “we have to wait for the President to revise the new law for the Federal Gun Control Act. Then we will change our policy”. – sonarx

Audio: http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/16942146/WalMart_Federal_Gun_Control?rn=95wy2gchqm80

18 Facts That Prove That Piers Morgan Is Flat Out Lying About Gun Control

1/12/13

http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/12/18-facts-that-prove-that-piers-morgan-is-flat-out-lying-about-gun-control/
Excerpt:

The following are 18 facts that prove that Piers Morgan is flat out lying about gun control…
 
#1 The UK has approximately 125 percent more **** victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does.
 
#2 The UK has approximately 133 percent more assault victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does.
 
#3 Piers Morgan continues to insist that there are more than 11,000 gun murders in the United States every year.  But that is flat out wrong.  According to the FBI, there were 8,583 gun murders in the United States during 2011.  And as Ben Swann recently pointed out, 400 of those were justifiable homicides by law enforcement and 260 of those were justifiable homicides by private citizens.
 
#4 The United States is #1 in the world in gun ownership, and yet it is only 28thin the world in gun murders per 100,000 people.
 
#5 The violent crime rate in the United States actually fell from 757.7 per 100,000 in 1992 to 386.3 per 100,000 in 2011.
 
During that same time period, the murder rate fell from 9.3 per 100,000 to 4.7 per 100,000.  This was during an era when gun laws in the United States generally became much less restrictive.
 
#6 The city of Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the United States.  So has this reduced crime?  Of course not.  As I wrote about the other day, the murder rate in Chicago was about 17 percent higher in 2012 than it was in 2011, and Chicago is now considered to be “the deadliest global city“.
 
If you can believe it, there were about as many murders in Chicago during 2012 as there was in the entire nation of Japan.
 
#7 After the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun, the crime rate dropped by more than 50 percent over the course of the next 23 years.
 
#8 Approximately 200,000 women in the United States use guns to protect themselves against sexual crime every single year.
 
#9 Overall, guns in the United States are used 80 times more often to prevent crime than they are to take lives.
 
#10 Only about 3.5 percent of the gun murders in the United States are caused by rifles.
 
#11 According to Gallup, an all-time record 74 percent of all Americans are against a total handgun ban in the United States.

#12 Down in Australia, gun murders increased by about 19 percent and armed robberies increased by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted.
 
#13 When Piers Morgan claims that there are only 35 gun murders in the UK per year, he isn’t exactly being accurate.
 
According to official statistics, there were59 gun murders in the UK in 2011.
 
It is also important to keep in mind that gun crime was already super low even before the gun ban in the UK was instituted, and that a 2009 article in The Telegraph declared that gun crime had doubledover the past decade even though it is widely acknowledged that crime statistics in the UK are massively underreported.
 
#14 The UK has the fourth highest burglary rate in the EU.
 
#15 The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
 
#16 A 2009 article in The Telegraph had this stunning headline: “UK is violent crime capital of Europe“.
 
#17 Despite the very strict ban on guns in the UK, the truth is that the UK is a far more violent society than the United States is.
 
In one recent year, there were2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people in the UK.  In the United States, there were only 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people during that same year.  Do we really want to be more like the UK?
 
#18 According to Gun Owners of America, the governments of the world slaughtered more than 170 million of their own people during the 20th century.  The vast majority of those people had been disarmed by their own governments prior to being slaughtered.

From the ^^ link

Excerpt:

In fact, right now there seems to be some sort of a nationwide backlash against gun advocates.  A few high profile gun advocates have even ended up dead in recent days.
 
For example, self-described “gun nut” Keith Ratliff, the owner of the ninth most popular channel on YouTube, was found dead at his business on January 3rd…
 
Keith Ratliff, 32, was a channel producer for FPSRussia firearms channel, an account with more than 3 million subscribers that features videos of a man testing a variety of guns.
 
Ratliff was found shot in the head at his business on Jan. 3, and while police don’t have a motive, they have classified his death as a homicide, FoxNews.com reported Wednesday.
 
Not only that, one of the most prominent rifle manufacturers in America was killed in a “mysterious car crash” on January 4th.  The following is from a recent articleby Mike Adams…
 

John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it’s a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.)
 
Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.
 
According to the Outdoor Wire, his car “traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected.”
 
But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, “What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?”
 
That was the last post he ever made.

Yes, this article has a liberalism slant to it, and no, I do NOT agree what this writer has to say about Executive Orders. Nonetheless, the reason why I'm posting this here is to show that even so-called "Republican" politicians have supported some measures of gun control in the past. So pretty much any of these anti-gun control Capitol Hill people you hear are nothing but dog and pony show people(to say the least).

http://www.politicususa.com/presidents-bush-clinton-executive-orders-reform-gun-laws.html


Presidents Bush and Clinton Also Used Executive Orders to Reform Gun Laws

By: Sarah JonesJan. 15th, 2013

Republicans are threatening to impeach Obama over executive action on gun control, but many presidents have issued executive orders on gun control, including George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton.
 
First Larry Pratt went impeachment nuts and then yesterday, Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) threatened that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he uses the power of his office to address gun control.

Stockman, who must not be familiar with the Constitution or history, claimed an executive order would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.” Stockman seems to get his news from the Daily Caller, Drudge and Fox News, because he believes, “If the president is allowed to suspend constitutional rights on his own personal whims, our free republic has effectively ceased to exist.”
 
President Obama hinted he might use executive action to address gun violence in his presser Monday. And then, Monday night Rep. Jackie Speier told Chris Matthews of MSNBC, “Vice President Joe Biden indicated there were some 19 areas he was able to identify that the president could take action on through executive order. He didn’t go into detail on what they might be, but suffice it to say, there will be some considered that will not require Congressional action.”
 
This translates in Republicanese to the demise of our Republic, also known as a Democrat not even using all of the executive power Republicans grant to their own party when they’re in power. Republicans are apparently unfamiliar with the constitutional legitimacy of using the executive office in this manner. Here are the facts:
 
In 1952, the Supreme Court ruled that executive orders could not make new law. Executive orders are therefore supposed to be about enforcing a current law or helping manage the enforcement of a current law. This is a matter of interpretation, and subject to argument on both sides. Whatever the President does, it will no doubt end up being challenged and argued in court (as it should be).

In 1989, then President George H.W. Bush issued an executive order halting the importation of some semi-automatic firearms after a mass school shooting Stockton, California. He based his executive order on the 1968 Gun Control Act and used it to ban the shipment of what could be considered “assault weapons” unless they were used for sporting purposes. (Question: Did the free republic cease to exist then?)
 
In 1998, then President Bill Clinton also issued an executive order to ban the importation of more than 50 semiautomatic “assault weapons” that had been modified to get through that “sporting purposes” exemption.
 
In 2001, Clinton moved again via executive order, banning the importation of assault pistols.
 
One issue that Obama could address via executive order would be the sale of firearms, which is not covered under the Second Amendment. Obama could base this on the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934, which levied a tax on the transfer of firearms. The President could use an executive order to institute a database and background checks centered on the sale of firearms; in other words, managing an existing law.
 
But Obama could also follow George W. Bush’s example and use the “security” of the nation in order to justify just about any law he wanted to impose regarding gun safety (I’m not advocating this, but it’s worth mentioning since Republicans don’t seem to understand how their abuses of power can be used against them later).

Obama, a constitutional lawyer, appears to have used his executive power well within the law for gun regulation so far. Reuters reports, “A federal appeals court signaled on Wednesday it was prepared to uphold a regulation designed to detect the sale of semi-automatic rifles to Mexican drug cartels, one of the few gun control measures put forward so far by the Obama administration.” Republicans have also tried to defund this gun reporting regulation.
 
Almost all of the gun control measures we’ve undertaken have come on the heels of a tragedy. In 1934 after the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre, FDR signed the National Firearms Act (mentioned above as a possible basis for Obama’s executive order) and in 2007, after the Virginia Tech massacre, President George W. Bush expanded the federal background check database.
 
Freshman Stockman is threatening to “defund the White House” if Obama dares to use his office as if he were the President. Duly noted.

Stockman served a term in Congress from 1995 to 1997 (suggesting that he might know what happened in 1989 and 1998), but reality may not be playing a large role here as Stockman is the guy who introduced “The Safe Schools Act” this month, a bill aimed at repealing federal laws mandating gun free zones around schools.

Obama plans to surround himself with children during gun control announcement   

1/15/13

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney announced this afternoon that President Obama will unveil a “concrete package” of gun control proposals including assault weapons bans, high capacity ammunition magazine bans, and closing loopholes on background checks.

Carney said that the president will be joined by Vice President Joe Biden as well as children who wrote to the president after the Newtown shootings.

“They will be joined by children around the country expressing their concerns about gun violence and school safety, along with their parents,” Carney confirmed.

The press conference will take place Wednesday at 11:45 a.m.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2518621#.UPXSobap7ng

And I wonder just what they mean by that. What loopholes? And who decides what a loophole is? This ought to be...interesting.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ny-gov-cuomo-prepares-sign-tough-gun-bill-214040530.html

1/15/13

N.Y. Gov. Cuomo signs tough new gun bill into law


New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is signing a tough and sweeping new gun control bill into law late Tuesday.
 
The bill limits magazines to seven bullets; increases penalties for gun crimes; gives the state more power to take away guns from mentally ill people; and bans semi-automatic rifles and handguns that have a "military-style feature," such as a bayonet lug. The ban goes into effect immediately. People who already own such guns are grandfathered in but must register them with the state.
 
New York is the first state to pass a gun law since the mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., sparked a national debate on gun violence.
 
"I am proud to be governor, not just because New York has the first bill, but because New York has the best bill," Cuomo said before signing it. "I'm proud to be a New Yorker because New York is doing something, we are fighting back."
 
The Republican-controlled Senate approved the bill on Monday night, with the Democratic Assembly approving it Tuesday afternoon. Blue state governors in several other states—including Connecticut, Maryland and Delaware—are also pushing for new gun laws.
 
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Isn't it amazing to watch these politicians just take complete control and pass laws that the public isn't even given a change to have a say on. Just write it up and they sign it, regardless of what the public might say once they read the fine print.

http://www.mrc.org/biasalerts/advocacy-not-journalism-13-cnn-guests-want-more-gun-control-only-2-argue-contrary

Advocacy, Not Journalism: 13 CNN Guests Want More Gun Control, Only 2 Argue to the Contrary
Published: 1/15/2013 6:07 PM ET

Commemorating the one month anniversary of the Newtown shooting, CNN stacked its Monday line-up with gun control advocates and Democratic politicians.

Over the course of the entire day, CNN interviewed guests about the gun issue. 13 guests were gun control advocates, including five Democratic politicians. Only two Republican guests went on to oppose further gun control measures or defend the NRA's proposal for armed guards in schools.

And CNN host Piers Morgan himself pushed for stricter gun laws.

"I'm in favor of a nationwide ban on military-style semi-automatic assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. I want to close the gun show loopholes and require private dealers to run background checks on all buyers at gun shows," he announced at the beginning of his show.

As NewsBusters reported yesterday, eight of the nine guests CNN hosted to talk about guns between the 5 a.m. and 3 p.m. news hours were in favor of more gun control.

Then, beginning with the 4 p.m. hour of The Situation Room and continuing through the 9 p.m. hour of Piers Morgan Tonight, five of the eight guests interviewed about guns wanted stricter gun laws.

Only one guest stood by the gun lobby; former GOP congressman Asa Hutchinson defended the NRA's proposal for armed guards in schools.
 
Of the five pro-gun control guests, one was the father of a Newtown shooting victim, another was the host of America's Most Wanted, another was the husband of former Democratic congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, and the other two were Democratic politicians.

For instance, Neil Heslin, whose son died in the Newtown shooting, told CNN's Piers Morgan:
 
"I think there should be stricter gun control. I'm not in favor of banning weapons or guns, but I'm definitely in favor of much more stricter background checks, regulations for gun owners. As for the assault rifles or the Bushmaster military-style rifle, I really can't see why somebody would need to own a weapon like that."
 
John Walsh, host of the show America's Most Wanted, told Morgan: "No one is ever going to take my guns away. There is no dictator. There is no foreign country that is going to take over America and take our guns away. This is reasonable, thoughtful – the ban on assault weapons is a reasonable start."

Luk 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26  Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

2Tim_1:7  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/11/portland-residents-panic-as-men-armed-with-assault-weapons-educate-the-city/

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1/11/13

Portland residents panic as men armed with assault semi-automatic weapons ‘educate’ the city

Two men walked the streets of Portland armed with assault weapons earlier this week because they said they wanted to “educate” residents, who reacted by fleeing and calling police.

Warren Drouin and Steven Boyce told KPTV that they were forced to take drastic measure to make sure people were aware of their Second Amendment rights after 20 children in Connecticut were massacred with same type of AR-15 rifles they were carrying.

“We’re not threatening anyone,” Drouin explained. “We don’t have that type of criminal behavior.”

“This happens to open that line of communication, to let people know that you can defend yourself in a time of crisis or any time that you want to,” Boyce added.

But KPTV’s Kaitlyn Bolduc reported that the demonstration created a “state of panic” in Portland’s Sellwood neighborhood.

“Employees inside of E Hair Studio hid in the back of the salon and locked there doors, while other ran for help for fear the two were really there to cause harm,” Bolduc said.

Police spoke to Drouin and Boyce and said the conceal-carry permit holders had not broken any laws.

The men insisted that they understood that people were on edge after recent mass shootings but hoped residents would approach them to ask questions during future demonstrations.

“We did mind the school posting signs,” Boyce pointed out. “We don’t don’t want to cause any trouble with that. We totally respect — there is a little bit of emotional sensitivity towards that and it’s just — we were walking the streets.”

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State Rep. Diane Franklin Wants 1 Percent Tax to Fund Mental Health Initiatives

1/15/13

A rural Missouri lawmaker wants her state to tax certain video games to help curb gun violence. The Associated Press reports state Rep. Diane Franklin, R-Camdenton, believes a 1 percent sales tax on video games rated teen, mature and adults only would help finance mental health programs aimed at reducing gun violence such as the recent mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
 
What does the legislation propose?

House Bill 157 proposes to create "an excise tax based on the gross receipts or gross proceeds of each sale" of video games rated by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB). The tax also involves the "storage, use or other consumption" of violent video games in Missouri including "tangible personal property." This means the tax could extend to memorabilia derived from the games such as toys, clothing and video game accessories.
 
How does the legislation hope to enhance public safety?

The law hopes to procure "new and additional funding for treatment of mental health conditions associated with exposure to violent video games... ." The revenue from the tax cannot be used to replace existing revenue already in place. Franklin deems the legislation "necessary for the immediate preservation of the public health, welfare, peace and safety." Therefore, if the legislation passes it will go into effect immediately. There is no mention in the legislation as to how much revenue should be generated, nor does it say whether the sales tax is just on new merchandise as opposed to used games on the secondary market.
 
Have similar laws been considered before?

A similar proposal was struck down in mid-February in Oklahoma. Democrat William Fourkiller crafted legislation in 2012 that is very similar to Franklin's idea in Missouri. A subcommittee struck down the bill by a 6-5 margin. Fourkiller, in defending the law , said it wasn't a "magic bullet" but that Oklahoma had "to start somewhere" to curb childhood violence. Oklahoma also would have taxed ESRB teen, mature and adults only games at a rate of 1 percent.

Does the Missouri law have a chance to pass?

CNN notes a federal appeals court made a ruling in 2003 that video games are free speech protected by the First Amendment. Ironically, it was a federal case stemming from St. Louis County, Mo., that created the precedent for video games as free speech. Senior U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh's decision was reversed by an appellate panel. The ruling came shortly after the state of Washington banned the sale of certain video games to children under the age of 17. Gamasutra reveals New Mexico also tried, and failed, to pass a similar law in 2008.
 
What are Franklin's credentials as they relate to the proposed bill?

Franklin was first elected in 2010 from Camdenton. She is a mother of two sons and served on Camdenton School Board from 1993 to 1999. She sits on the House Appropriations-Education committee. Franklin is a third-generation small business owner and comes from a farming family. Missouri Republicans currently have a veto-proof supermajority in the General Assembly. Camdenton is a small city of around 3,700 people near Lake of the Ozarks in central Missouri.

http://news.yahoo.com/missouri-lawmaker-wants-violent-video-games-taxed-222800628.html

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-unveils-sweeping-plan-battle-gun-violence-165956859--politics.html

1/16/13

Obama unveils sweeping plan to battle gun violence


President Barack Obama on Wednesday rolled out a sweeping plan to combat gun violence, including a universal background checks for every gun buyers, a ban on assault weapons and ammunition clips that hold more than 10 bullets. It was the most ambitious effort by a U.S. president to tighten gun laws in a generation and faces certain opposition among Republicans and some Democrats in Congress.
 
Obama was set to to take executive action on 23 items including requiring federal agencies to report more information to the federal background check system and direct the Centers for Disease Control to research gun violence. But he acknowledged his more ambitious proposals would have to clear Congress.
 
"This will not happen unless the American people demand it," Obama said, saying people from all over the country, including areas where gun ownership is popular, must speak out in favor of new restrictions.
 
The president was joined by Vice President Joe Biden and some of the children who wrote to Obama in the aftermath of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School last month that left 26 people dead, including 20 first graders.
 
The total cost of the president's proposals is estimated at $500 million.
 
At the bottom of this post is a fact sheet, provided by the White House, detailing Obama’s proposals. But administration officials on a conference call previewing the announcement fleshed out some important details (on condition that they not be named—and left some important questions unanswered:
 
- They wouldn’t say whether any of the steps the president is recommending would have prevented the massacre at Sandy Hook and other recent mass shootings. One senior official on the call did say, "There’s no question that both the actions that he’s taking and the legislation that he’s proposing will save lives.”
 
- They did not provide an estimate of how many lives would be saved annually if the president got everything he wanted, saying the social science on gun deaths is not precise enough to do so.
 
- Obama isn’t sending “specific legislative language” to Congress, the officials said, instead following his usual blueprint of laying out principles and then letting lawmakers craft a bill.
 
- In keeping with the president’s promises, his proposals would limit the manufacture of new assault weapons and ammunition clips with more than 10 bullets—but would not affect those already on the market.
 
- How did they settle on 10 bullets (and not seven, or 15)? One official said that number was taken from the 1994 assault weapons ban that Obama hopes to renew and strengthen.
 
- Was the so-called "Fast and Furious" gun trafficking scandal a factor in shaping the president's proposals? "It was not," said one official.
 
Bowing to political reality, Obama’s proposals included a wave of executive actions that circumvent Congress, where most Republicans and a few Democrats have balked at sweeping new restrictions they say could trample constitutional gun rights. The potent National Rifle Association lobby has also pledged to defeat new gun control measures.
 
On the other side, retired congresswoman and mass shooting survivor Gabby Giffords plans to lobby her former colleagues, and national public opinion polls have shown a surge in popular support for new gun laws.
 
The president has long said he seeks a comprehensive strategy for preventing future mass shootings while diminishing the death toll from smaller-scale daily killings, officials said. Some of what he unveiled would require congressional action, like the assault weapons ban. Some could be achieved with merely a presidential signature—a step that could, in some cases, inflame opposition in Congress, notably among House Republicans.
 
(Some of those are decidedly small-scale, however: One of the 23 "executive actions" trumpeted by the White House was that Obama will "clarify" that Obamacare "does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.")
 
The proposals were the fruit of extensive discussions, led by Biden, with victims' groups, organizations that represent gun owners, elected officials and law-enforcement leaders.
 
Obama wants to boost anti-bullying campaigns in schools, and training for educators. He also wants to give schools the ability to use some federal funds to improve safety—but did not explicitly echo the NRA’s demand for armed guards in schools.
 
Key steps also included imposing background checks on all gun purchases. Right now, an estimated 40 percent fall outside existing law, including those at gun shows and other 'private' sales, according to gun-control advocates. The existing system has stopped an estimated 1.5 million improper gun sales, according to an Obama aide, but "there's still too many loopholes." The president directed Attorney General Eric Holder to take a "fresh look" into whether the categories of people prohibited from buying firearms needs to be expanded or updated.
 
Obama also aimed to thaw what the White House called a "freeze" in scientific research of gun violence by the Centers for Disease Control. And he urged Congress to bankroll the CDC to do research into possible linkages between violent video games and other media images and real-life violence, to the tune of $10 million.
 
Below is a White House-provided fact sheet listing his "executive actions."
 
Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions
 
Today, the President announced that he and the administration will:
 Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
 Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
 Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
 Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
 Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
 Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
 Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
 Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
 Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
 Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
 Nominate an ATF director.
 Provide law enforcement, first responders and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
 Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
 Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
 Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
 Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
 Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
 Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
 Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
 Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
 Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
 Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
 Launch a national dialogue led by [Human Services Secretary Kathleen] Sebelius and [Education Secretary [Arne] Duncan on mental health.
 .

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The highlighted and enlargened above is what caught my eye - not only Obamacare is part of this agenda, but "houses of worship"(ie-churches) looks like will be playing a role in this as well.

Looks like Caesar will finally be coming back to collect his chips, and no coincidence that the IRS-runned Obamacare has come into play.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dhs-expand-and-formalize-coordination-gun-control-efforts_696127.html

DHS to 'Expand and Formalize Coordination' on Gun Control Efforts
Janet Napolitano, head of the Department of Homeland Security, released a statement Wednesday saying she is "proud to support" the Obama administration's efforts to "combat gun violence in our country." Here's more from Napolitano's statement:

In the aftermath of the tragic Newtown shooting, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), together with the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the FBI have worked to identify measures that could be taken to reduce the risk of mass casualty shootings.  In the coming days, DHS will expand and formalize coordination of ongoing efforts intended to prevent future mass casualty shootings, improve preparedness, and to strengthen security and resilience in schools and other potential targets. DHS will work with partners at all levels of government, to address five critical areas intended to reduce the risk of mass casualty shootings in the United States:  Prevention, Protection, Response, Education, and Research/Evaluation. DHS will also work with law enforcement to refresh, expand and prioritize the implementation of nationwide public awareness efforts such as the “If You See Something, Say Something™” campaign. This is a critical issue that requires immediate attention and I look forward to supporting the President and this Administration as we move ahead.

Massachusetts governor proposes new gun laws after Newtown

1/16/13

BOSTON (Reuters) - Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick introduced a new series of gun laws on Wednesday that would tighten rules on sales of weapons and ammunition, in the wake of last month's deadly school shooting in neighboring Connecticut.
 
Patrick made the announcement a day after New York state adopted one of the toughest gun-control laws in the United States and as President Barack Obama unveils proposals expected to include a new national assault-weapons ban and strengthened background checks on prospective gun buyers.
 
"In the wake of too many tragedies, I have filed legislation to tackle the problem of gun violence and illegal firearm possession," Patrick, a Democrat, said in a statement.
 
He also proposed an increase in funding to the state's mental health programs aimed at reducing violence.
 
more:
http://news.yahoo.com/massachusetts-governor-makes-pitch-stricter-gun-laws-164401646--finance.html

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newtown-school-superintendent-rejects-nra-proposal-arm-teachers-213455773--politics.html

1/16/13

Newtown school superintendent rejects NRA proposal to arm teachers

Newtown, Conn., Superindent of Schools Janet Robinson on Wednesday blasted critics who suggested armed teachers would have stopped the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
 
Robinson, speaking on Capitol Hill during a House hearing on gun violence, said she felt remarks made in the wake of the shooting suggesting that Principal Dawn Hochsprung could have killed the shooter had she been armed were "insensitive." Robinson said, "She wasn’t at her desk and no good principle is."
 
Robinson flat-out rejected the NRA proposal to place armed guards in every classroom in America, noting that the weapon used in the Sandy Hook shooting was a semi-automatic. "They didn't have a chance," she said.
 
And she added that she doesn't envision elementary school teachers "packing" weapons while they sit on the carpet with small children—children who she said could be at risk around inexperienced gun owners.
 
Robinson called on Congress to help offer long-term support to her community. "Mental health is a big piece when you have lost your whole sense of safety," she said, noting that Newtown residents want concrete signs of safety including a visible police presence.
 
The hearing, hosted by House Democrats, was designed to gather input on how to combat gun violence. Though Congress was out of session, the event drew more than 60 members from both parties to a standing-room-only venue that required an overflow room.
 
Earlier on Tuesday, President Barack Obama, standing beside Vice President Joe Biden, had unveiled a sweeping plan to combat gun violence.

Obama using gun issue to advance health law

1/16/13

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/16/obama-using-gun-issue-advance-health-law/

President Obama is using the national debate over gun violence to push for further action on his health care law, including insisting on the kind of mental health coverage states must provide under their Medicaid programs.
 
Mr. Obama, unveiling his gun proposals Wednesday barely a month after the deadly school shooting in Newtown, Conn., will make it clear that his health law, known as the Affordable Care Act, allows doctors to ask patients whether they have guns in their homes, and will tell them they are able to report any threats of violence they hear to police.
 
The president also will lay out the mental health coverage that all insurers will be required to provide under his signature-achievement law.
 
Those are some of the 23 executive actions Mr. Obama plans to take whether or not Congress acts on his broader recommendations, the White House said.
 
Other moves including offering incentives for schools to hire police; finally naming a new director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF); and requiring federal authorities to trace all guns recovered in their criminal investigations.
 
Mr. Obama also will call on his secretaries of education and health and human services to hold a national dialogue on mental health.
 
The entire list of the actions Mr. Obama is taking comprises:
 
1. Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system
 
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
 
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
 
4. Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
 
5. Propose rule-making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
 
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
 
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
 
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
 
Story Continues →


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/16/obama-using-gun-issue-advance-health-law/#ixzz2ICWLqzOh

Yeah, they are using this to go after the mental health system in general. It's obvious what they are up to. Look for something to pass that says any person with mental health issues of any kind, no guns allowed.

I'm beside myself reading this stuff. It's hard to believe this guy has the nerve to do this. People of today obviously don't even know what tyranny is. They are clueless the water in the pot has already started boiling.

Moderator's Note: This post is made by BornAgain2, and NOT Mark. Somehow, there was a glitch while BA2 and Mark were editing posts simultaneously in this same thread.


Well, you really disgust me Gov. Perry! 2 years ago, you hung out with a bunch of pseudo-christian heretics that are quietly pushing for a global government. You also have allowed Islam to be taught in TX public schools. To boot, you also have allowed Obamacare money to flow into the state once it was passed 3 years ago.

http://news.yahoo.com/nra-chief-says-group-accepts-background-checks-122514606--politics.html

1/16/13

NRA chief says group accepts background checks

WASHINGTON (AP) — The head of the National Rifle Association says the organization has no problem with tighter background checks of gun purchasers.
 
But association president David Keene also says too much emphasis has been placed on banning certain firearms.
 
In an interview on "CBS This Morning" Thursday, Keene argues, quote, "The real question that needs to be addressed is not what we do about guns, but what we do to make our schools safer."
 
The NRA has come under close scrutiny in the wake of Newtown, Conn., shootings that killed 20 children and six adults.
 
Keene said officials should focus more attention on a "devastatingly broken mental health system in this country," if they genuinely want to end gun violence.
 
He said the NRA has been "generally supportive" of stronger background checks.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.142:

H.R.142 -- Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 142 IH

113th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 142

To require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 3, 2013

Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013'.

SEC. 2. LIMITATIONS ON PURCHASES OF AMMUNITION.

    (a) Licensing of Ammunition Dealers-

        (1) IN GENERAL- Section 923(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended in the matter preceding paragraph (1), in the first sentence, by striking `, or importing or manufacturing' and inserting `or'.

        (2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 921(a)(11)(A) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting `or ammunition' after `firearms'.

    (b) Requirement for Face to Face Sales of and Licensing To Sell Ammunition- Section 922 of such title is amended--

        (1) in subsection (a)(1)--

            (A) by striking `for any person--' and all that follows through `(A) except' and inserting `(A) for any person except'; and

            (B) by striking subparagraph (B) and inserting the following:

        `(B) for--

            `(i) any person except a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, to--

                `(I) sell ammunition, except that this subclause shall not apply to a sale of ammunition by a person to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer; or

                `(II) engage in the business of importing or manufacturing ammunition, or in the course of such business, to ship, transport, or receive any ammunition; or

            `(ii) a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer ammunition to a person unless the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has verified the identity of the transferee by examining a valid identification document (as defined in section 1028(d) of this title) of the transferee containing a photograph of the transferee;'; and

        (2) in subsection (b)(5), by striking `or armor-piercing'.

    (c) Limit on Shipping and Transporting of Ammunition- Section 922(a)(2) of such title is amended--

        (1) in the matter preceding subparagraph (A), by inserting `, or to ship or transport any ammunition,' after `any firearm'; and

        (2) in subparagraph (B), by inserting `or ammunition' after `a firearm'.

    (d) Recordkeeping Regarding Ammunition-

        (1) IN GENERAL- Section 923(g) of such title is amended--

            (A) in paragraph (1)(A)--

                (i) in the first sentence, by inserting `or ammunition' after `other disposition of firearms'; and

                (ii) in the third sentence, by striking `, or any licensed importer or manufacturer of ammunition,' and inserting `, or any licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer of ammunition,'; and

            (B) in paragraph (3), by adding at the end the following:

    `(C) Each licensee shall prepare a report of multiple sales or other dispositions whenever the licensee sells or otherwise disposes of, at one time or during any 5 consecutive business days, more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person. The report shall be prepared on a form specified by the Attorney General and forwarded to the office specified thereon and to the department of State police or State law enforcement agency of the State or local law enforcement agency of the local jurisdiction in which the sale or other disposition took place, not later than the close of business on the day that the multiple sale or other disposition occurs.'.

        (2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 4182(d) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to exemptions relating to firearms) is amended by inserting `and except as provided in paragraph (1)(A) and (3)(C) of section 923(g) of title 18, United States Code,' before `no person holding a Federal license'.

Well, gun background checks isn't good either...although the world coming together on the same page has been prophecized in the bible...

2Th 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Rev 13:4  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

http://news.yahoo.com/universal-background-checks-agreed-other-gun-control-orders-152300467.html

1/17/13

Universal Background Checks? Agreed, but Other Gun-Control Orders Get Mixed Reviews

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/16/rep-steve-stockman-tones-down-impeachment-threat-against-obama/

Rep. Steve Stockman backs off impeachment threat against Obama

1/16/13

Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) said Wednesday he did not think impeaching President Barack Obama would be necessary to protect the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

“Impeachment is not something to be taken lightly,” he said in a statement. “It is a grave and serious undertaking that should only be initiated in a sober and serious manner. It should be reserved only for most egregious of trespasses by the President.”

“I would consider using Executive Orders to engage in attacks on a constitutionally-protected right and violating his sworn oath of office to be such a trespass. The President cannot issue executive orders depriving the people of full access to an enumerated constitutional right,” Stockman added. “I do not think it will come to that. The President is not an absolute ruler, and his actions and orders can be checked and balanced by the Congress and the courts –- if the Congress is willing.”


Stockman, who began his first term in Congress this year, gained national attention after threatening to impeach the President if he used executive orders to enact new gun regulations. On Tuesday, Stockman said that Obama reminded him of Saddam Hussein.

Obama announced his set of proposals to reduce gun violence on Wednesday. Obama called on Congress to renew the assault weapons ban, restrict the sale of high-capacity magazines and require universal background checks for all gun sales. He also issued 23 executive orders, including appointing a director to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF).

Though Obama’s executive orders appear to all be within the president’s power, Stockman assured his constituents that his staff were reviewing them. He vowed to “fight back with peaceable legislative force” against any executive actions that were unconstitutional.

Eph 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Eph 6:18  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph 6:19  And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20  For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

MA gun control bill pending

-   Seven round mag limit – Magazines are now limited to seven rounds. Current 10 round mags are grandfathered. Owners of so-called “pre-ban” Mass mags (magazines with more than 10-rounds which were allowable under existing law) have one year to ditch them

   - One Gun A Month – Sales – Bay Staters may not purchase more than one firearm per month. To exceed that rate is a felony. (2.5 years in prison, $1000 fine)

   - One Gun a Month – Rental/Lease – Citizens may not rent or lease more than one firearm a month (2.5 years in prison $1000 fine)

   - Universal background checks – All firearms sales (including private sales) must be preceded by a NICS criminal background check

   - Gun show registration – Gun shows must report every seller at a show to the Department of Criminal Justice Services and pay a $500 fee to same

   - No Bail for Gun Offenders - If a gun is used in a violent crime the offender may be held without bail until trial

   - NERF-free schools - Airguns, BB guns, paintball guns, air rifles and yes NERF guns may not be possessed on school property ($500 and a year in jail)

   - “Rat Rule” – Any staff or administrators who fail to report a violation of the above law are criminals ($500 fine)

Full text here:
http://www.mass.gov/governor/legislationeexecorder/legislation/an-act-to-strengthen-and-enhance-firearms-laws.html

HR 226 Support Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.226
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/t2GPO/http:/www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113hr226ih/pdf/BILLS-113hr226ih.pdf

Gun violence "research"? ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-end-long-fight-over-gun-violence-research-201708897.html?_sr=1

1/17/13

Can Obama end the long fight over gun violence research?

As part of his 23 executive actions addressing gun violence, President Barack Obama announced on Wednesday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) must begin researching the causes of that violence.
 
“We don't benefit from ignorance,” Obama said at the White House. “We don't benefit from not knowing the science of this epidemic of violence.” The president also asked Congress to infuse the agency with an extra $10 million for this research, which will include studying whether violent video games and other media images have an effect on violence levels.
 
For those who didn't tune in to the congressional battles of the '90s, this announcement might seem odd. Why doesn't the CDC, which is dedicated to helping Americans prevent disease and injury, already study the causes and effects of firearm-related violence?
 
As with most highly charged political battles, it depends on which side you ask.
 
The CDC used to conduct extensive research into gun violence, but comments by CDC officials about the dangers of guns sparked a backlash. In 1994, A CDC official who oversaw the section of the agency that researched gun violence told the Washington Post, "We need to revolutionize the way we look at guns, like what we did with cigarettes. Now it is dirty, deadly and banned." Around the same time, a CDC-funded nonprofit published a pamphlet encouraging people concerned about gun violence to “organize a picket at gun manufacturing sites” and write to their local politicians about gun control.
 
By 1996, outraged House Republicans had had enough: They led the effort to defund the part of the CDC that researched gun violence, and added a special rule preventing the agency from engaging in any activity that promoted gun control.
 
After the defunding, the CDC's spending on gun research dropped from a few million dollars a year in the 1990s to zero dollars today, and a larger message was sent to agencies that wading into gun research or data collection could lead to trouble with Congress. Separate federal actions limited other agencies' ability to collect data on gun ownership.
 
Over the years, pro-gun advocates and some social science researchers have contended that public health researchers who worked for or were funded by the CDC had a clear anti-gun agenda that led to sub-par and politically motivated research. That bias has not changed even though the CDC funding has dried up, they say.
 
"The ideology of the medical/public health researchers has not changed, and the quality of their research has not improved," says Gary Kleck, a criminologist at Florida State University. Kleck contends that his research on gun ownership and violence, which is often cited by the pro-gun rights side, is ignored by public health gun researchers.
 
In the public health research world, however, there's a near consensus that a gun lobby-backed campaign against the CDC has purposely suppressed research on the subject for political reasons, a setback that has left the field decades behind. Published academic research on firearm violence fell 60 percent between 1996 and 2010, according to a report by the pro-gun control group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. The CDC, the National Institutes of Health and the Justice Department's research arm all completely stopped or dramatically reduced their funding for gun-related research over the same period.
 
Researchers, many of whom depend upon federal grants, moved to other topics or reduced their firearms-related output.
 
"It's been very hard for people on soft money like myself to get funding for a lot of research," says David Hemenway, director of Harvard University's Injury Control Research Center. ("Soft money" means researchers are responsible for raising their own funds.)
 
Larry Cohen, founder of the nonprofit Prevention Group and a leader in the movement to define violence as a preventable public health issue, says the defunding of the CDC had a "chilling impact" on research in the gun violence field. After the defunding, "for the most part the research went away, so it had its desired effect," he says.
 
Questions including the safest way to store weapons in the home and whether firearm safety classes work have not been addressed, public health researchers say. "We're nearly 20 years behind in our ability to really ask these kinds of important questions," said Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association.
 
It's unclear how much of an effect the president's announcement will have on the field, however. A spokeswoman from the CDC said the agency will not begin doling out gun research funds until financial year 2014. Without the additional funds from Congress, it's unclear how much the CDC would be able to give out. If Congress complies with Obama's request to hand over $10 million for gun violence research, however, a bigger impact could be made.
 
"It would be a very needed breath of fresh air for Congress to allow the CDC to study this issue," Cohen says. The move may also remove a climate of fear around the research, public health researchers hope.
 
But those who pushed for the defunding in the 1990s worry the CDC could now push for more restrictions on guns through their research. "I'm concerned that if President Obama's recommendation to restore funding to the CDC is implemented that we are going to see once again the same thing that we saw back in the 1990s," says Dr. Tim Wheeler, a retired physician and the head of Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership. "We're going to see a very powerful and very prominent federal agency using tax money to advocate for gun control and generating these pseudo-scientific studies to back it up."
 
Many public health researchers do believe gun ownership can be a health hazard, especially when it comes to suicide. Cohen says he hopes the surgeon general will release a report on suicides and firearms.
 
A National Academy of Sciences review of gun-related research in 2004 found that higher gun-ownership rates are associated with higher suicide rates. The report did not find evidence that right-to-carry laws lead to either an increase or decrease in violent crime.
 
The report also noted that researchers are hog-tied by a lack of good data on firearms collected by the government, including data on gun ownership. Without this data, it's hard for researchers to make strides, even with federal funds.

Again, I'm not a fan of the NRA, but nonetheless wasn't Christie the same guy who took a stand against Planned Parenthood and gay marriage? Dunno, but he seems to have shown his true colors since Hurricane Sandy.

http://kplr11.com/2013/01/17/nj-gov-chris-christie-slams-nra/

1/17/13

NJ Gov. Chris Christie Slams NRA

1/17/13

(KPLR) – New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, a Potential 2016 Presidential Candidate slammed the NRA Thursday for the online ad the National Rifle Association posted, pointed out President Obama’s daughters have armed guards and you don’t campaign.
 
Christie called the ads “reprehensible”, saying elected official’s kids should be off-limits.

Of course he's going to say that seeing he's an official. Actually, he's reprehensible. It's hard to take somebody serious when they are morbidly obese. ::)

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Not that I'm trying to bring celebrities into the mix here, but Danny Glover can't be THIS dumb, right?

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4582


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Looks like "Republicans" are slowly caving in...

http://cowboybyte.com/17474/gov-bobby-jindal-proposing-gun-safety-legislation-based-on-mental-health-issues/

1/14/13

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal Proposing “Gun Safety” Legislation Based On Mental Health Issues

Gov. Bobby Jindal wants to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill in an effort to reduce gun-related deaths and injury.
 
Jindal announced today that he will seek legislation to improve gun safety in Louisiana by enabling the state to report to the federally administered National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) database an individual’s eligibility to purchase firearms based on mental health records.

“Too often, both in Louisiana and in states across the nation, the mentally ill are slipping through the cracks and getting lost in the system,” Jindal said in a news release. “In order to protect these individuals and the communities they reside in, it is imperative that we take proactive steps to prevent them from harming either themselves or others.

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Governor Jindal, what about all of those psychomedic drugs that have been responsible for 90% of these shootings!! >:(

More on Jindal
http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,5000.0.html

Apparently he is that dumb, or that brainwashed. ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/pa-kindergartner-suspended-bubble-gun-remark-035057936.html

1/18/13

Pa. kindergartner suspended for bubble gun remark

MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. (AP) — A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.
 
Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two.
 
Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a "terrorist threat" for the bubble gun remark, made Jan. 10 as both girls waited for a school bus.
 
Ficker says the girl didn't even have the bubble gun with her and has never fired a real gun. He says she's "the least terroristic person in Pennsylvania."
 
School district solicitor Edward Greco tells pennlive.com (http://bit.ly/13Nu0QF ) officials are looking into the case. He said Friday school officials aren't at liberty to discuss disciplinary actions.

First Chris Christie, and now someone from the NRA's OWN TEAM! Surprise, surprise... :o

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-nra-senior-lobbyist-says-attack-ad-ill-181051948.html

Exclusive: NRA senior lobbyist says attack ad was "ill-advised"

1/25/13
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of the National Rifle Association's senior lobbyists said an ad by the nation's leading gun-rights group after a school shooting in Connecticut that refers to President Barack Obama's children was "ill-advised."

Jim Baker, head of the federal affairs division at the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, said he had made his views known to others at the powerful gun-rights organization.

The ad, which cast Obama as hypocritical for having expressed skepticism about putting armed guards in schools, when "his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools," drew widespread criticism when it first became public on January 15.

Nationwide outrage over the shooting of 20 children and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, on December 14 moved gun violence and gun control to the center of the U.S. political debate.

"I don't think it was particularly helpful, that ad," Baker told Reuters in a telephone interview. "I thought it ill-advised."
"I think the ad could have made a good point, if it talked about the need for increased school security, without making the point using the president's children," he said. The NRA has advocated putting armed guards in schools

Baker was the NRA's representative at a meeting with Vice President Joseph Biden on January 10 to discuss the administration's plans to reduce gun violence in the wake of the school shooting.

He said he was not involved in creating the ad, and once it appeared, he had let others at the NRA know what he thought. "I got to say my piece," he said.

Baker gave no details of the their response to him, but said, "Believe it or not, there are occasionally differences of opinion in this building."
In the ad, a narrator asks, "Are the president's kids more important than yours?" Obama's daughters, 14-year-old Malia and 11-year-old Sasha, attend private school in Washington and receive Secret Service protection, as is routine for children of presidents.

The White House has called the NRA ad "repugnant and cowardly," while New Jersey Governor Chris Christie said it was "reprehensible" and undermined the NRA's credibility by bringing the president's children into the debate. Christie is considered a possible Republican presidential contender in 2016.

Susan Eisenhower, the daughter of the late President Dwight Eisenhower who had Secret Service protection as a child, wrote in the Washington Post that she was "disgusted" by the ad.

The NRA's president, David Keene, objected to the White House criticism earlier this month, saying "We didn't name the president's daughters ... What we said is that these are people who think that their families deserve protection that yours don't."

The president's critics also have noted that when Obama announced his plan to respond to the gun violence, he was flanked by four children. Obama proposed renewing a U.S. assault weapons ban, as well as banning high-capacity magazines and more stringent background checks for gun purchasers.

(Reporting by Susan Cornwell; Editing by Marilyn W. Thompson and Jackie Frank)

Without a PC this week, really not much tv news other than that Notre Dame football player and his hoax online girlfriend scandal, and Lance Armstrong. However did manage to see this on CNN the other day.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/kathleen-turner-returns-to-washington-for-gun-control-march/article/2519593#.UQOXi7_hqxo

Kathleen Turner returns to Washington for gun control march

1/24/13

Actress Kathleen Turner has been a friend to Planned Parenthood and People for the American Way for many years, but this weekend she's coming to town to support a new cause -- gun control.

"It was very much [due to] Newtown," she told Yeas & Nays Thursday. "It's such a grass roots kind of response, it just came about from everyone's shock and horror at the murder of all those children," she continued.

Turner explained that Arena Stage artistic director Molly Smith called her up to see if she would come and speak at Saturday's March on Washington for Gun Control, something that Smith helped organize. Turner, who spent two months working at Arena playing Molly Ivins in "Red Hot Patriot," said absolutely.

"Obama said that he needs the will of the American people to make this sort of thing happen, so this is a response from the American people," Turner explained, adding that she is for limiting the magazine size of guns and tightening up background check loopholes, and would happily follow up with Congress.

As for returning to the local stage, Turner also said that she's thinking of returning to D.C. in 2014. "Molly's asked me to come do 'Glass Menagerie' in 2014 and, you know, Amanda's a role that I probably should tackle so I said yeah, I would definitely consider that," Turner said, referring to the Tennessee Williams' four-character play. She did, after all, have a good time living in the District. "I had a great little apartment on Eight Street in between the Portrait Gallery and the Archives and all those really good restaurants over on Seventh Street," she added.

The March on Washington for Gun Control will step off at 10 a.m. Saturday from the Capitol Reflecting Pool and travel to the Washington Monument.

Gun Owners Refuse to Register Under New York Law:They’re saying, ‘F--- the governor! F--- Cuomo! We’re not going to register our guns,’ and I think they’re serious .People are going to resist, 

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14322-gun-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law

'MENTAL HEALTH CHECK'

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/biden-mental-health-check-may-have-prevented-virginia-tech-shooting/

HOLDER MOVES ON GUNS...
http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pending-regs/279345-holder-begins-gun-control-push

Communist Party USA cheers...
http://www.infowars.com/communists-cheer-on-obamas-gun-grab/

Warning from David Mamet...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html

'Godfather' Tells Big Banks To Stop Supporting Gun Makers...
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/25/emanuel-to-banks-stop-supporting-gun-makers/

Feinstein Gun Control Bill Would Exempt Government Officials...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-gun-control-bill-exempt-government-officials_697732.html

Lacks Dem Votes to Pass...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-25/assault-weapons-ban-lacks-democratic-votes-to-pass-senate.html

Feinstein Permanent “Assault” Weapons Ban Planned for Over a Year Through the use of rigged and or biased polling data, the entire mainstream media, in conjunction with those in power who are pushing this public agenda of disarming the American people 

http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/25/feinstein-permanent-assault-weapons-ban-planned-for-over-a-year/

What Happened to Our Country?

When people reminisce about what America used to be like, some act scornfully toward us. They say living in a Donna Reed world was great for a few, but that there were many suffering souls. The way our country is today makes some of us long for those days which seemed so innocent compared to the harsh, cruel, coarse, and sometimes murderous days we exist in today.

Yet most would argue that there were still injustices when we were growing up fifty years ago. Black people who had been freed a century before were still not treated equally in most parts of the country. Many women were limited in their businesses, political, and professional opportunities. And if they did enter any of those careers, they were capped as to what they could achieve. Few would want a return to those aspects of days past. Yet they would seem almost welcome compared to the experiences we have had in Newtown, Aurora and Tucson.

Even though now more than a month has passed, the pain of what happened in Sandy Hook Elementary school stills burns deeply in our hearts. There were some who started assigning blame for what happened within days which was clearly indecent during a national mourning period. Yes, we need to find paths to resolve the deep divisions that trouble this country. But will that really take us back to a simpler time? After all, the residents of Newtown likely lived there to avoid all this cultural degradation and live a “Leave It to Beaver” life where the biggest challenges were errant children chewing gum in class.

A yearning exists for the days when children rode their bikes to schools, which were open with flowing green fields where they frolicked under minimal supervision. Now children are escorted by grownups to their schools, which are fenced in and then locked down. Remember even at Sandy Hook the school was locked down at 9:30 each morning, just as almost all elementary schools are today.

What does it say to the children of our country that they have to be escorted everywhere they go? Are they left to think that wherever they go there are people in uniforms providing security and their parents are on a constant vigil watching them? What kind of country have we passed to them?

That we cannot as the grownups in this society come to some agreement of how to resolve this only makes matters worse. With every single massacre, we instantaneously divide into two camps. There are those who immediately shriek that it was the gun at fault, completely ignoring the other societal factors that brought a deranged madman to execute an unfathomable act. Then there are those who argue that there exists nothing that we can do to keep the means of mass murder out of the hands of these freaks.

Come on folks, we can do something about this, but the suggestion by Wayne LaPierre of the NRA to put armed guards on all campuses seems so distasteful. Already an estimated third of our children go to schools that have armed guards. We should not unreasonably restrict our Second Amendment rights because of these maniacs, but putting our kids on lock down would just make matters so much more obscene.

We have not yet had a coherent conversation about how to move forward. The people who want more gun control lurch into nonsensical talk about bazookas or tanks with very little knowledge of guns or how they function. People like the editor of the Journal News (Westchester area of New York), who listed the names and addresses of local gun owners in the newspaper, display to what extent the left will go to restrict gun ownership. They are scary as their actions are reminiscent of command and control countries that totally restrict gun rights.

Some people do not understand that there is a difference regarding gun owners. It is not like obtaining a driver’s license. That is a privilege. The right to own a gun is embedded in our Constitution. It is there for a reason. The unrepentant Caryn A. McBride, Editor of the Journal News which listed the home addresses of prison guards and district attorneys in her cause to restrict gun ownership, scares us and should scare you. It brings into question the rationale for a federal gun registry when ownership is a right not a privilege.

Yet, there are things that are just not going right. We have lost sight of the faith, family, and community that built this country. Our government has become too big yet cannot even confront the truly mentally ill among us. As Charles Murray taught us in his most recent book, Coming Apart, even our rock solid middle-class communities are falling apart. The amount of children being raised without proper parenting is just appalling. And when people do get married, far too many are getting divorced for their own selfish reasons while thinking their children will be just fine. Boys need fathers and not just as appendages.

Never being a fan of video games, we would just as soon trash them, but that would be a First Amendment problem. Yet, when politicians decry weapons, they should really assault the culture vultures who sell these games that desensitize young males. Our President booted this issue to be studied in his recent proposal. That means zero will happen on this aspect of the problem. Why do we have to hear this nonsense that only protects these products? Moral suasion still works as has been effective with cigarette smoking, so why can’t we do the same with these disgusting games? Why do parents acquiesce to allow the constant devolution of young male minds?

You may wonder why so many people bemoan our current culture and hark back to happier times. Maybe it is not as bucolic as we paint it, but our children certainly lived a more innocent existence. What our goal should be is to bring all children to those wonderful times instead of bringing every child down to the lowest common denominator. The innocence of childhood can never be devalued. It can only be lost. Let’s not have the innocence of another group of youngsters lost like we have at Sandy Hook. Let’s show some leadership.

http://townhall.com/columnists/brucebialosky/2013/01/21/what-happened-to-our-country-n1491988/page/full/

John 12:46  I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
Joh 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Joh 12:48  He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=837434

Vatican supports Obama on gun control
Updated: 15:20, Sunday January 20, 2013

The Vatican has praised US President Barack Obama's proposals for curbing gun violence, saying they are a 'step in a right direction'.

Vatican's chief spokesman the Rev Federico Lombardi, in an editorial on Saturday, said 47 religious leaders had appealed to members of the US Congress 'to limit firearms that are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths'.

'I am with them,' Lombardi declared, lining up the Vatican's moral support in favour of firearm limits.

'The initiatives announced by the American administration for limiting and controlling the spread and use of weapons are certainly a step in the right direction.'

Obama is trying to rally support for reinstating a ban on assault weapons and requiring background checks on all gun sales.

He faces stiff opposition in the US Congress and from powerful gun lobbies.

Considering that Americans possess 'about 300 million firearms,' Lombardi said, 'people cannot fool themselves that it is enough to limit the number and use (of guns) to impede in the future horrendous massacres like that of Newtown that shook the conscience of America and world, as well as that of children and adults'.

He was referring to the Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school where 20 children and six adults were killed by a sole attacker last month.

'But it would be worse to be satisfied with words' of condemnation alone, Lombardi said.

And while massacres are 'carried out by unbalanced or hate-driven persons, there is no doubt that they are carried out with firearms'.

Lombardi renewed Vatican appeals for disarmament and encouragement for measures to fight 'the production, commerce and contraband of all types of arms,' an industry fuelled by 'enormous economic and power interests.'

http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-march-gun-control-washington-164306917.html

Thousands march for gun control in Washington

1/26/13

WASHINGTON (AP) — Thousands of people, many holding signs with names of gun violence victims and messages such as "Ban Assault Weapons Now," joined a rally for gun control on Saturday, marching from the Capitol to the Washington Monument.

Participants were led by Mayor Vincent Gray and other officials Saturday morning, and the crowd stretched for about two blocks along Constitution Avenue. Police blocked off half the road.

Participants held signs reading "Gun Control Now" and "Stop NRA," among other messages. Other signs were simple and white, with the names of victims of gun violence.

About 100 residents were expected from Newtown, Conn., where a gunman killed 20 first-graders and six teachers at a school in December. The rally was organized in response to that shooting.

more

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/09/ag-beau-biden-mandates-that-sheriffs-no-longer-have-arrest-powers/

4/9/12

Delaware AG Beau BIDEN, Mandates That Sheriffs No Longer Have Arrest Powers

“It is time for the sworn protectors of Liberty, the County Sheriffs, to walk tall and defend their citizens from all enemies of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.”

http://bonfiresblog.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/sheriffs-bushwhacked/

”We do have some sheriffs with the courage to tell the federal government to stay out of their counties and not enter unless they clear with the sheriff first. The sheriff is not a part of the federal judicial system.  He holds executive powers.”

By Pat Shannan

Sheriff Jeff Christopher of Sussex County, Delaware, when he was elected to the office in 2010, thought he was handpicked by the people to represent them as the highest-ranking law officer in the county. Instead, he has found himself in the middle of a fight for the future of American law enforcement as a result of a nationwide effort to abolish the sheriff’s office altogether.

It is one more example of federal and state governments ignoring the will of the people as well state laws. In the case of Delaware, the state’s own  constitution stipulates that the office of the sheriff is a constitutionally created position just like the secretary of state and the attorney general. Delaware’s Constitution states: “The sheriffs shall be conservators of the peace within the counties . . . in which they reside.”

This time it is Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden, sending out mandates to commissioners informing them that their sheriffs no longer have arrest powers. In an opinion released Feb. 24, State Solicitor L.W. Lewis said that neither the state nor the common law grants arrest powers to the county sheriffs.

It would appear that Lewis is a little confused. The office of sheriff was created more than a century before the official founding of the United States. Delaware’s first sheriff took office in 1669.

“Now my deputies and I have been relieved of all arrest powers and can’t even make a traffic stop,” he said. “Delaware has only three counties. . . The other two sheriffs . . . will not stand up with me” to prevent the elimination of county law enforcement, he said.

Beau Biden’s questionable ruling against the longtime tradition of the sheriff being the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the county because of election by the people means the state’s usurpation of the office appears to be a forthcoming fact.

County spokesman Chip Guy announced, “The opinion from the attorney general’s office reinforces what has long been the position of the county [that] Delaware sheriffs and their deputies do not have arrest powers and are not in the same vein as state police or municipal officers.”

http://news.yahoo.com/could-gun-control-gay-marriage-194640088.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1uoAVR3GEALG7QtDMD

1/17/13

Could gun control be the new gay marriage?

The public's views on gay marriage have moved decidedly to the left, spurred by demographic and generational changes in the electorate. But that same electorate has shifted to the right on gun control. Why the politics of the two issues are different, for now.

Is gun control the new gay marriage? Or are the issues more like mirror images of one another?

Both could be categorized as hot-button topics that for years generated more political activism on the right than on the left. Both have also seen a recent shift in public opinion that, in the case of gay marriage, is upending the politics surrounding the issue, and in the case of gun control, has the potential to do so.

But there are big differences between the two, as well. Gun control has been around as an issue much longer than gay marriage, and public opinion on it has waxed and waned – with support often spiking after a high-profile shooting, only to fall again. Moreover, the long-term trend on gun control, unlike gay marriage, has been a rise in opposition. As recently as April, the Pew Research Center put out a report noting the divergent trends on the two issues, noting that "on gun control, Americans have become more conservative; on gay marriage, Americans have become more liberal."

Still, gun-control proponents including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg have been arguing vociferously that the issue is not nearly the political loser that Democrats have for years assumed it to be. And the dramatic change that's been occurring when it comes to public opinion on gay marriage – pulling politicians along with it – offers an intriguing model as to where the politics surrounding the gun issue could potentially be headed.

Let's look first at gay marriage. As recently as 2004, President George W. Bush's campaign was able to use it as a "wedge issue" to drive up turnout among conservatives, helping him win reelection. That year, the Pew Research Center found that 60 percent of Americans opposed gay marriage, while just 31 percent favored it. Four years later, in 2008, those numbers had shifted – though the majority was still in opposition, with 51 percent opposing, and 38 percent in favor.

By 2012, however, it was a completely different story: In July, Pew found just 41 percent of Americans opposed gay marriage, while a plurality of 48 percent favored it. Some of that shift was driven by generational changes, since young people tend to be more broadly in favor of gay marriage (though support has gone up among all age groups). The bigger change, though, was demographic: The electorate has become more Democratic, more urban, more educated, less religious, and less white – and the politics surrounding many cultural issues like gay marriage have shifted accordingly.

So might those same demographic changes portend a similar shift to the left in public opinion on guns?

Well, in recent years, as previously noted, the trend has been in the opposite direction – with support for gun rights growing. In the wake of the Columbine High School shootings in 1999, Pew found that 65 percent of Americans said it was more important to control guns, while just 30 percent said it was more important to protect gun rights. By contrast, in the wake of last summer's movie-theater shooting in Aurora, Colo., just 47 percent said controlling guns should be the priority, compared with 46 percent preferring to protect gun rights.

That shifted somewhat in the wake of Newtown. In a survey released this week, Pew found 51 percent saying it was more important to control gun ownership, while 45 percent were on the side of protecting gun rights. That puts support for gun control at its highest point in President Obama's tenure, yet still well below the levels of support found during the Clinton years.

But it's also worth noting that the rise in opposition to gun control has come about almost entirely because of a shift among Republicans, who have become much more strongly in favor of gun rights in recent years, while views among Democrats have remained relatively stable.

And in many cases, those who currently say they favor protecting gun rights actually do support certain gun-control measures, such as universal background checks (favored by 85 percent overall) and preventing people with mental illnesses from purchasing guns (80 percent support). Even more notable, 58 percent of Americans say they would favor a ban on semi-automatic weapons.

Bottom line: It's too soon to tell where all this is heading. But while the overall trajectory of public opinion on gun control has not resembled the trajectory on gay marriage in recent years, it's also not crazy to think that it might start to, soon.

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The highlighted above is what caught my attention - a little leaven leaventh the whole lump...ultimately, either you support gun rights, or you don't, there's no ifs/ands/buts around it. If the government starts with universal background checks and preventing a class of people from getting them, then in the long run it will lead to a very dark path. Same with banning semi-automatic weapons - as far as I know, an aluminum baseball bat is worse than these "semi-automatic" weapons.

http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-quiet-force-gun-control-debate-does-want-184500482.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1uoAVR3GEAMG7QtDMD

1/16/13

Pentagon a quiet force in gun-control debate. What does it want?

The Pentagon has already successfully taken on the NRA over a pro-gun congressional measure that it didn't like. Now some retired officials are speaking out in the gun-control debate.

Even as President Obama announced sweeping gun-control initiatives Wednesday, one little-discussed contingent has been quietly influencing the debate behind the scenes: current and former US military commanders.

US military officials have already been successful in reversing one initiative backed by the National Rifle Association (NRA) on Capitol Hill, which they worried could have a dangerous impact on US troops. Now, some prominent retired military officials are backing the administration's calls for "responsible gun ownership," including limits on military-style assault weapons.

Given their background, active and retired US military often have significant credibility in the gun-rights debate – both in Congress and
among the general public.

“I do think retired military officers have a bit more weight than, no offense, the stereotypical ‘knee-jerk New England liberals' do,” says retired Col. Elspeth Cameron Ritchie, a psychiatrist and former mental health adviser to the Army surgeon general. “We’ve got credibility, we’ve worn the uniform, we’ve carried weapons. I like to go to the range and shoot – we’re not anti-weapon, per se.”

Earlier this month, retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who served as the commander of US forces in Afghanistan and before that as head of the elite Joint Special Operations Command, which oversees US Navy SEAL and Delta Force missions, said that there is no reason for most Americans to have military-grade weapons.

“I spent a career carrying typically either a M16, and later a M4 carbine,” he told MSNBC. “And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round – which is 5.56 millimeters – at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed to do that. That’s what our soldiers ought to carry.”

He added, “I personally don't think there's any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America. I believe that we've got to take a serious look – I understand everybody's desire to have whatever they want – but we have to protect our children and our police and we have to protect our population. And I think we have to take a very mature look at that."

Military commanders have not been shy about taking on pro-gun laws that they see as detrimental to their troops. For more than a year, they pushed Congress to change the language of a measure that prevented commanders from talking to their troops about weapons that they might be keeping at home.

These were conversations that commanders wanted to have as the suicide rate among US troops was rising amid a decade of war. More US troops now die as a result of suicide than in battle.

“A majority of [suicides] have two things in common – alcohol and a gun,” said retired Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli last year, when he was the No. 2 officer in the US Army. “And when you have somebody that you in fact feel is high risk, I don’t believe it’s unreasonable to tell that individual that it would not be a good idea to have a weapon around the house.”
In December, lawmakers voted to change the language to clearly allow commanders to talk with troops about firearms.

Dr. Ritchie's research has led her to deeper questions about guns and troop safety. She says troops are often at risk of harming themselves and others because of the easy access they have to firearms, both on base and at gun stores off-base.

As part of a team investigating military bases with escalating suicide rates, Ritchie found that one factor common to all these installations “is that they are in states with relatively permissive gun laws.”

She advocates for more gun safety education for troops. “I talk about things that I think might work,” she says. “I know it’s obviously a very emotionally charged issue, so I don’t use the term ‘gun control’ but ‘responsible gun ownership.’ ”

On Thursday, as President Obama was announcing new gun-control proposals – including a ban on assault weapons – Ritchie and McChrystal said that the conversation on weapons in America needs to continue. “I think it has gained a lot more traction now,” Ritchie says. “But there’s a lot further to go.”

http://news.yahoo.com/background-checks-peak-week-conn-shooting-215045463.html

1/28/13

Background checks peak in week after Conn shooting

WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI said Monday it conducted more background checks for firearms sales and permits to carry guns the week following the Newtown, Conn., shooting massacre that it has in any other one-week period since 1998.

The second highest week for background checks came earlier this month as President Barack Obama announced sweeping plans to curb gun violence. The FBI started keeping track of federally mandated background checks in 1998.

The newly released FBI data confirms what many gun dealers around the country have said about sales going up after the deadly Connecticut shooting that left 27 dead, including 20 children, as gun enthusiasts braced for stricter controls. The number of background checks does not represent the number of firearms purchased, but gun manufacturers use these statistics to measure the health of the gun industry in the U.S.

After the Dec. 14 shooting at a Newtown elementary school, the FBI conducted 953,613 background checks between Dec. 17 and Dec. 23. The highest number of background checks in a single day since 1998 was Dec. 21, just one week after a gunman shot and killed his mother at their Connecticut home using weapons his mother had legally purchased before he drove to the school and shot his way into the building. The second highest day for background checks was December 20.

During the week that Obama announced his plans to curb gun violence, the FBI conducted 641,501 background checks. The 10th highest single day for background checks came Jan. 19, three days after Obama spoke about gun violence and new gun control measures. Obama has announced a $500 million plan to tighten federal gun laws, and he is urging Congress to pass new laws that would ban "military-style assault weapons."
Nationally, there were nearly twice as many more background checks for firearms between November and December 2012 than during the same time period one year ago.

Background checks typically spike during the holiday shopping season, and some of the increases in the most recent FBI numbers can be attributed to that. But the number of background checks also tends to increase after mass shootings, when gun enthusiasts fear restrictive measures are imminent.

One gun store owner in Nashville, Tenn., said people in the business are calling this rush to buy guns after the Newton shooting a "banic," meaning people are panicked that Obama would ban guns.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-push-background-checks-gun-purchases-023655912--politics.html

Police push for background checks on gun purchases

1/28/13

WASHINGTON (AP) — Law enforcement leaders who met with President Barack Obama Monday urged him to focus on strengthening gun purchase background checks and mental health systems, but did not unify behind his more controversial gun control efforts.

The message from sheriffs and police chiefs gathered at the White House reflected the political reality in Congress that the assault weapons ban in particular is likely to have a hard time winning broad support. The president appeared to recognize the challenge of getting everything he wants from Congress as well, participants in the meeting said.

"We're very supportive of the assault weapons ban," as police chiefs, said Montgomery County, Md., Police Chief J. Thomas Manger in an interview with The Associated Press. "But I think everybody understands that may be a real tough battle to win. And one of the things that the president did say is that we can't look at it like we have to get all of these things or we haven't won."

Opinions over an assault weapons ban and limits on high capacity magazines — two measures the president supports — were divided in the room. While Manger said the police chiefs from the large cities support that kind of gun control, some of the elected sheriffs who were in the meeting may not.

"I think what was made clear was that gun control in itself is not the salvation to this issue," said Sheriff Paul Fitzgerald of Story County, Iowa, one of 13 law enforcement leaders who met with the president, vice president and Cabinet members for more than an hour, seated around a conference table in the Roosevelt Room.

Among the participants included three chiefs that responded to the worst shootings of 2012, including Aurora, Colo., where 12 were killed in July; Oak Creek, Wis., where six died in an assault on a Sikh temple, and Newtown, Conn., scene of the most recent mass tragedy that left 20 first-graders dead.

The White House recognizes that police are a credible and important voice in the debate over guns that has developed following last month's elementary school shooting in Connecticut. Obama opened the meeting before media cameras and declared no group more important to listen to in the debate.

"Hopefully if law enforcement officials who are dealing with this stuff every single day can come to some basic consensus in terms of steps that we need to take, Congress is going to be paying attention to them, and we'll be able to make progress," Obama said.

Obama urged Congress to pass an assault weapons ban, limit high capacity magazines and require universal background checks for would-be gun owners in a brief statement to the reporters. But participants said after the media was escorted from the room, the focus was not on the assault weapons ban.

"He did not ask us if we do or do not support an assault weapons ban," said Hennepin County, Minn., Sheriff Richard Stanek, president of the Major County Sheriffs' Association. "He did not ask us if we do or do not support high capacity magazines."

"I told him very candidly that this isn't just about gun control alone," Stanek said. He said the bigger issue is that the Justice Department's system for background checks is incomplete since many states don't report mental health data or felony convictions. He mentioned how in his home state of Minnesota, a 14-year-old shot and killed his mother with a shot gun, but was later able legally to buy additional handguns and automatic weapons because the background check did not reveal his history. "There's example after example after example like that across the country," Stanek said.

Fitzgerald said the mental health system needs to be better funded because jails across the country are becoming "dumping grounds for the mentally ill."

"I was not the only sheriff that spoke up on that issue," Fitzgerald said. "To me, that is the No. 1 thing if we are going to impact that kind of violence that's happening in America."

All the law enforcement participants interviewed said they appreciated the president's attention to the issue and found the meeting constructive. Manger said the president did a lot more listening than talking and heard about the need to fund more police officers to protect school safety and a proposal to restrict the sale of ammunition on the Internet besides the broad calls for stronger mental health and background check systems.
Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey, president of the Major Cities Chiefs Association, said he's never been more encouraged about the prospect of gun control legislation of some sort, even if the assault weapons ban his group supports is an uphill battle.

"You're not going to get 100 percent of people to agree on anything as it relates to gun control, and we're no different, but a majority of people in the room recognize that something needs to be done," he said. "This was not just a passing thing as far as the president and vice president are concerned. This is something that they are determined to keep in front of the American people until they get something passed."

While the assault weapons ban was not a major focus of the White House meeting, participants say it was discussed at length at a later meeting with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sponsored a ban in 1994 that lasted for a decade and last week introduced a renewal of the ban in Congress.

"I would say her message was not well received overall by the group," Stanek said. "Everyone has an opinion on it one way or another."

See, here's the real problem with the way guns are being dealt with; government isn't giving the public the opportunity to vote on such things. They just meet amongst themselves, write up a bill, and vote on it. No public involvement at all, and that to me is unconstitutional itself.

Seriously, since when did the public tell their representatives to ban anything? They haven't. In fact, the public opinion is just the opposite of what government says. I'm not sure how else one defines government tyranny!

Armed Guard Stops School Shooter Who Shot Classmates...
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55742445-68/shooting-atlanta-police-says.html.csp

Metal detectors fail to stop shooter...
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/02/01/metal-detectors-at-georgia-school-where-student-shot/

Newtown Calls for Armed School Officers...
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Newtown-Votes-for-Armed-School-Officers-189320221.html?dr

I just want to say that the exploitation of those Sandy Hook kids s reaching just epic levels of disgusting. Really? at the Super Bowl? wow!

Yeah, saw that, and had the same thought, shameful. Exploiting dead children to further corrupt political causes. THAT is the style of the US government these days. No morals, just an attitude that they will take advantage of whatever opportunity exists.

Yeah, saw that too - as much as I like watching the football games, that part before the game(and during the pre-game show) really disgusted me as well. It's as if you saw subliminal gun control messages as well(ie-James Brown from the CBS crew talked about trying to curb gun violence as well - shouldn't his job be to discuss the games, and nothing else?).

And speaking of that "power outage" after halftime, it likely had nothing to do to help the 49ers get back in the game - it was probably another attempt to condition the public for an imminent EMP attack.

Friday, February 1, 2013
GOVERNMENT GUN GRAB
http://srcwm.webcastcenter.com/src/src_020113.wma

Hosts: Noah Hutchings, Larry Spargimino, and Bob Glaze
Guest: Larry Pratt

The president and his allies are attacking the Second Amendment and our rights to have guns as never before. Larry Pratt from Gun Owners of America talks about our rights as Americans and why the freedom to bear arms is essential to keep America free.

Bible in the News: Planned Parenthood Sets Abortion Record


Monday, February 4, 2013
GOD, GUNS, AND LIBERTY, Part 1
http://srcwm.webcastcenter.com/src/src_020413.wma

Host: Larry Spargimino
Guest: Michael Hoggard

Many law-abiding Americans are fearful that the president will find some way to seize their guns. Michael Hoggard explains the history of our gun rights and why it is so important to defend them.

Bible in the News: TBA


Tuesday, February 5, 2013
GOD, GUNS, AND LIBERTY, Part 2
http://srcwm.webcastcenter.com/src/src_020513.wma

Host: Larry Spargimino
Guest: Michael Hoggard

Many law-abiding Americans are fearful that the president will find some way to seize their guns. Michael Hoggard explains the history of our gun rights and why it is so important to defend them.

Bible in the News: TBA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/01/sylvester-stallone-gun-control_n_2602644.html

2/1/13

Sylvester Stallone Supports Gun Control: 'Bullet To The Head' Star Doesn't See Value In Assault Weapons

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — Sylvester Stallone says that despite his "Rambo" image and new shoot-em-up film "Bullet to the Head," he's in favor of new national gun control legislation.

Stallone supported the 1994 "Brady bill" that included a now-expired ban on assault weapons, and hopes that ban can be reinstated.

"I know people get (upset) and go, `They're going to take away the assault weapon.' Who ... needs an assault weapon? Like really, unless you're carrying out an assault. ... You can't hunt with it. ... Who's going to attack your house, a (expletive) army?"

The 66-year-old actor, writer and director said he also hopes for an additional focus on mental health to prevent future mass shootings.

"It's unbelievably horrible, what's happened. I think the biggest problem, seriously, is not so much guns. It's that every one of these people that have done these things in the past 30 years are friggin' crazy. Really crazy! And that's where we've dropped the ball: mental health," he said. "That to me is our biggest problem in the future, is insanity coupled with isolation."

Stallone is now in production on his next project, pairing up with the former "Raging Bull" Robert De Niro for "Grudge Match," about two aging boxers.

"People think it's going to be some geezer brawl. Really? OK, they're in for a surprise. I'm telling you. I've been working on the fight, the choreography. He's taking it deadly serious. Because no one wants to be shown up," Stallone said of De Niro. "It's going to be like a `Rocky' fight. This will be `Rocky 7,' with me fighting – with Rocky fighting the `Raging Bull.'"

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-seeks-adopt-nations-toughest-gun-laws-220030130.html

2/7/13

Calif. seeks to adopt nation's toughest gun laws

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Weeks after New York enacted the nation's toughest gun laws, California lawmakers said Thursday they want their state to do even more in response to recent mass shootings, particularly the Connecticut school massacre.
 
Democrats who control the state Legislature revealed 10 proposals that they said would make California the most restrictive state for possessing firearms.
 
They were joined at a Capitol news conference by San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, along with several police chiefs.
 
"California has always been a leader on the issue of gun safety," Villaraigosa said. "New York has stepped up and stepped forward. California needs to answer the call."
 
Among the measures is one that would outlaw the future sale of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. The restriction would prevent quick reloading by requiring bullets to be loaded one at a time.
 
Lawmakers also want to make some prohibitions apply to current gun owners, not just to people who buy weapons in the future.
 
Like New York, California also would require background checks for buying ammunition and would add to the list of prohibited weapons.
 
Those buying ammunition would have to pay a fee and undergo an initial background check by the state Department of Justice, similar to what is required now before buyers can purchase a weapon. Subsequent background checks would be done instantly by an ammunition seller checking the Justice Department's records.
 
The legislation also would ban possession of magazines holding more than 10 bullets, even by those who now own them legally. All weapons would have to be registered.
 
Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, promised that gun proponents will fight the measures in court if they become law.
 
"It strikes me as if these folks are playing some sort of game of one-upsmanship with New York at the expense of law-abiding citizens, and that's just unconscionable," he said about lawmakers.
 
Three bills have been introduced, with others to come before this month's deadline for submitting legislation.
 
The measures are the most stringent to date among numerous proposals introduced this year to strengthen California's firearm regulations.
 
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said he is confident Democrats can use their majorities in the Assembly and Senate to send the measures to Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown this year.
 
Brown has declined to comment on weapons legislation before it reaches him.
 
Steinberg said the measures are designed to close numerous loopholes that gun manufacturers have exploited to get around California's existing restrictions.
 
Those measures had been the strongest in the nation until Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed New York's new law last month.
 
Other proposed measures in California would ban so-called "bullet buttons" that can be used to quickly detach and reload magazines in semi-automatic rifles, and update the legal definition of shotguns to prohibit a new version that can rapidly fire shotgun shells and .45-caliber ammunition.
 
The state also would restrict the lending of guns to keep weapons from felons, mentally ill people and others who are prohibited from ownership.

http://news.yahoo.com/senators-seek-deal-gun-sale-background-checks-083943375--politics.html

2/8/13

Senators seek deal on gun-sale background checks

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan quartet of senators, including two National Rifle Association members and two with "F'' ratings from the potent firearms lobby, are quietly trying to find a compromise on expanding the requirement for gun-sale background checks.
 
A deal, given a good chance by several participants and lobbyists, could add formidable political momentum to one of the key elements of President Barack Obama's gun control plan. Currently, background checks are required only for sales by the nation's 55,000 federally licensed gun dealers, but not for gun show, person-to-person sales or other private transactions.
 
The senators' talks have included discussions about ways to encourage states to make more mental health records available to the national system and the types of transactions that might be exempted from background checks, such as sales among relatives or to those who have permits to carry concealed weapons, said people who spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to describe the negotiations publicly.
 
The private discussions involve liberal Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, who is the No. 3 Senate Democratic leader; West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, an NRA member and one of the chamber's more moderate Democrats; Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., another NRA member and one of the more conservative lawmakers in Congress; and moderate GOP Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois.

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And that shows you where the real problem is; at the federal level.

Again, the federal government is trying to infringe on the rights of the states, wanting to impose on them requirements that violate the Constitution. And the only way to stop it is for the state's representatives to stop doing the bidding of the federal level, and return to doing as their constituents tell them. The House and Senate would need to basically clean house of a bunch of laws, unraveling decades of unconstitutional legislation, and disband multiple "federal agencies" such as the Department of Education, that are nothing but redundant, invasive, over budget, unaffordable, and in many cases, unconstitutional.

Ultimately, we know what the federal motivation is, and that nothing will change it but Jesus in the end. Until then, I suspect the governments of the world will continue to encroach more and more on citizen's rights, and moving from legislative options to mandates.

Surprise investigations aimed at homeschoolers
Connecticut cites need for 'confidential behavioral health assessment'

In what critics are seeing as an ultimate power grab, state officials in Connecticut are pushing forward a bill to require state investigations of children like never before – calling for a “confidential behavioral health assessment” of every public school student in grades 6, 8, 10 and 12, and every homeschool student at ages 12, 14 and 17.

The proposed Bill 374 is being described as the ultimate home invasion.

“It’s outrageous that state officials could come into private homes and potentially remove children if they are assessed as a threat as a result of the investigation,” Home School Legal Defense Association Senior Counsel Dee Black told WND in an interview.

“Regardless of what state officials claim, I don’t believe the results [of the investigations] will be held confidential.”

Black, who provides legal assistance and advice for HSLDA members in what is ironically nicknamed the “Constitution State,” sees this proposed measure as anything but constitutional.

And when asked if the psychological tests given by the social services hands the state too much unchecked power – enabling government officials to seize and tag children as mentally unfit or maladjusted – Black answered definitively.

“No question about it,” asserted the Memphis State University School of Law graduate. “I don’t think people who live in a free society should be forced to give into mental evaluations of their children.”

He contends such intrusions are both unwarranted and unconscionable.

“Proposed Bill 374 would essentially authorize the state to conduct regular social services investigations of homeschooling families without any basis to do so,” asserts Black, who earned a Master of Laws degree at Georgetown University Law Center. “This outrageous legislative proposal must be stopped in its tracks before it gains any momentum.”

The key motivation behind such a bill including homeschoolers?

“The alleged [Sandy Hook] shooter was allegedly homeschooled for a while, but I’m not sure if it could have anything to do with it,” said Black, who has educated all four of his children at home with his wife. “The bill only covers homeschool and public school students – not conventional private school students. The heightened sensitivity in Connecticut about safety in schools could certainly be a factor [behind the bill] … trying to identify threats before they become a tragedy.”

And just what takes place during these in investigations?

“According to the Connecticut Behavioral Health Partnership, a state organization made up of the Department of Children and Families, Department of Social Services, Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services, and others, a behavioral health assessment is quite comprehensive and invasive,” reports Black, who’s been practicing law for 36 years.

“It includes ‘a review of physical and mental health, intelligence, school performance, employment, level of function in different domains including family situation, and behavior in the community.’”

Putting things into perspective, Black warns that parents could see social services following their children around their neighborhoods, observing them interacting at home with their families, showing up at their work, inspecting their classroom performance, administering IQ tests, psychologically analyzing them and physically examining their bodies.

When would students be subjected to all of this?

“Proposed Bill 374, filed in the Connecticut General Assembly, would require all homeschooled children ages 12, 14, and 17 to undergo a behavioral health assessment,” said Black, who has served with HSLDA as senior counsel for nearly two decades. “These assessments would be conducted by an unspecified health care provider and would be conducted even though there was no indication whatsoever that these children had a behavioral problem.”

And Black warns that the results might not be as private as the state claims.

“The bill states that the results of the assessments are to be disclosed only to the child’s parent or guardian, but that the health care provider must submit a form to the State Board of Education verifying that the child has received the assessment,” he said.

He urges homeschoolers and any Americans concerned about the violation of children’s constitutional rights to act now.

“Immediately contact members of the committee and express … opposition to this unwarranted invasion of family privacy,” Black said. “This legislation is sponsored by Sen. Toni Nathaniel Harp (10th Dist.) and Rep. Toni E. Walker (93rd Dist.), [and] the bill is presently in the Public Health Committee.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/surprise-investigations-aimed-at-homeschoolers/#8BibHtr1Jt4tQHSl.99

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/11/16926184-gabby-giffords-stars-in-new-gun-control-tv-ad

2/11/13

Gabby Giffords stars in new gun-control TV ad

Americans for Responsible Solutions, the organization founded by former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) and her husband Mark Kelly, has released a new TV ad in the campaign to curb gun violence.

"We have a problem -- where we shop, where we pray, where our children go to school," Giffords says in the ad. "But there are solutions we can agree on, even gun owners like us. Take it from me: Congress must act. Let's get this done."

Video link inside

The ad -- at a six-figure buy -- will air this week in DC, as well in the cities represented by congressional leaders: San Francisco (Nancy Pelosi); Cincinnati, OH (John Boehner); Louisville, KY (Mitch McConnell); and Las Vegas, NV (Harry Reid).
 
And it comes after Giffords and her husband recently sat down with the New York Times for an interview. "Ms. Giffords, a former Democratic congresswoman from Arizona, a gun owner, an astronaut’s wife, a shooting survivor and an incipient gun-control advocate, is settling into the third act of her public life. Her career as a lawmaker is behind her, but so is her role as the fragile, slightly mysterious victim in the months after she was shot point-blank in a parking lot here just over two years ago. Now, she is the face and emotional dynamism behind a new advocacy group and a separate political action committee, Americans for Responsible Solutions, dedicated to reducing gun violence. It is an effort, she said, that gives her 'purpose.'"

Giffords and Kelly also will attend President Obama's State of the Union on Tuesday.

Biden: We’re counting on ‘legitimate media’ for successful gun control effort

During a press conference on gun safety in Philadelphia, Vice President Joe Biden said that any reports that suggest that he was trying to take weapons away from gun owners was a “bunch of malarkey.”

"I know that's a word that you've never heard before, although it's now in the dictionary," Biden boasted.

Biden said that it was important for the media to dissuade the American public from the idea that the Obama administration was prepared to do something unconstitutional on guns.

“To be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media to cover these discussions because the truth is that times have changed,” Biden added, warning that people would continue to “misrepresent” the White House's plans for gun control.

"The social media that exists out there, the tragedies that have occurred, the Supreme Court decision affirming that its an individual right to bear arms - all give a lie to the argument that what we're trying to do is somehow unconstitutional, or somehow goes after the legitimate right to own and bear arms and to hunt and protect yourselves," Biden added.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/biden-were-counting-on-legitimate-media-for-successful-gun-control-effort/article/2521184

Wow, he means he is expecting the media to support and change Americans minds, just like with their propaganda just as they have done with gay marriage and anything else that is left oriented, like global warming.

‘legitimate media’ that means anything that is MSM oh and fake news programs that stupid sheeple think is real, like the daily show. Is comedy not news!!!

possible translation:

"Listen up scum, you need to tow the socialist line we have implemented, and make sure you put out plenty of misinformation so the useless eaters get the idea guns are bad, and only criminals want to own guns, and seeing we have changed the way we do government in the US, the media is expected to play along with their comrade leaders."

Missouri Democrats Introduce Legislation to Confiscate Firearms – Gives Gun Owners 90 Days to Turn in Weapons

Missouri Democrats introduced an anti-gun bill which would turn law-abiding firearm owners into criminals. They will have 90 days to turn in their guns if the legislation is passed.

Dana Loesch Radio reported on the new legislation being pushed by Missouri Democrats:

    Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.

Here’s part of the Democratic proposal in Missouri:

    4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:

    (1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;

    (2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or

    (3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

    5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns/

http://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-cache-bullets-190840538.html

Homeland Security and its cache of bullets

2/14/13

WASHINGTON (AP) — Online rumors about a big government munitions purchase are true, sort of.
 
The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them — roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States — for law enforcement agents in training and on duty.
 
Published federal notices about the ammo buy have agitated conspiracy theorists since the fall. That's when conservative radio host Alex Jones spoke of an "arms race against the American people" and said the government was "gearing up for total collapse, they're gearing up for huge wars."

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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/senate-gun-grab-bill-could-be-more-disastrous-than-feinstein-bill_022013

Senate Gun Grab Bill Could Be More Disastrous Than Feinstein Bill

2/14/13

Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) introduced S. 54 on January 22, 2013. The bill, titled Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013, is a cleverly disguised gun grab. How so? According to Gun Owners of America (GOA) the bill “could end gifts and raffles of firearms, and possibly ‘necessitate’ gun licensure across the country.”

GOA’s Michael Hammond writes


But there are other issues in the bill.
 
For instance Section 5 could theoretically prohibit anyone in the country from owning a firearm without a license. Yes, it’s bizarre to say the least seeing that this would be state legislation that would cross state lines.
 
The text of Section 5 reads,


So if you are a person who is prohibited by State or local law from possessing a firearm, according to the emphasized portion of the legislation, you are not banned by federal law and presumably it would be mandated that you were placed in the NICS system.
 
I suppose the laughable part of the legislation is Section 7, which deals with someone who “smuggles or knowingly brings into the United States, a firearm or ammunition, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.”
 
I’m guessing this would apply to the Obama Justice Department, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Eric Holder and many subordinates, maybe even Barack Obama himself. Yeah, I’m not holding my breath on that one.
 
GOA also pointed out, in an action alert, that “Gun Owners of America today submitted testimony at the request of the Ranking Member of the Senate Constitution Subcommittee. GOA took a strong stance against all the gun control legislation on the table and urged the Senate to put forth real solutions to school violence — like letting teachers and principals protect their students.”

The pro-Second Amendment group also warns,


The solution to the wave of gun control legislation is simple. GOA concludes, “First, we cannot allow one word of gun control to move to the Senate floor; not one word.”
 
“Second, the way we keep gun control from reaching the Senate floor is to defeat the “motion to proceed” to the Leahy Bill,” GOA adds. (The “motion to proceed” is usually offered by the Senate Majority Leader — in this case Harry Reid — to bring up a bill for consideration. The Senate quite often brings up legislation under a Unanimous Consent agreement, but if there is not unanimity, the “motion to proceed” can usually be debated, if not filibustered.)

Since when did a majority leader, or any politician, get the authority to tell fellow politicians how they are "allowed" to vote? See just how far we have drifted away from how the system is suppose to work? It's suppose to be what the citizens want of their representative, not determined by what one person wants.

This country is so in trouble.

http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-lawmakers-move-forward-gun-control-measures-233724875.html

2/16/13

Colorado lawmakers move forward on new gun-control measures

DENVER (Reuters) - The Democratic-controlled Colorado House of Representatives approved a package of strict gun-control measures late on Friday, in a state rocked by two of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history.
 
After a marathon session that stretched late into the evening, the state House voted to advance the proposals with little support from Republicans, but with a boost from Vice President Joe Biden, who called several wavering Democratic lawmakers and urged them to vote for the measures.
 
The proposals passed on a voice vote, with a formal vote scheduled for Monday. The bills must also pass a final vote in the state Senate, also controlled by Democrats, before it heads to Governor John Hickenlooper's desk.
 
Among the proposals are bills that would require background checks for all gun purchases - paid for by applicants - a ban on ammunition magazines with more than 15 rounds and a measure to allow colleges in the state to ban concealed weapons on campus.
 
"We had a full and fair debate, which is exactly how the process is supposed to work," House Speaker Mark Ferrandino said in a statement. "Opinions were sharply divided, but we got our work done, and I thank members on both sides of the aisle."
 
House Republican leader Mark Waller characterized the bills as a "knee-jerk reaction" to last year's massacre of school children in Connecticut and moviegoers in Aurora, Colorado.
 
"They (Democrats) are passing these without any evidence that there will be any impact on public safety," Waller told Reuters on Saturday.
 
Colorado has been shaken by two of the worst mass shootings in recent U.S. history. In 1999, two students at Columbine High School in Littleton shot dead a teacher and 12 students before turning their guns on themselves.
 
Last July, a gunman opened fire inside an Aurora theater, killing 12, and wounding 58 others. The accused shooter, James Holmes, is awaiting trial on multiple counts of first-degree murder and attempted murder.
 
Emotions ran high during debate in Denver on Friday.
 
Several Democrats said they had received death threats for supporting gun control bills, and a gun-rights lobbyist was escorted out of the Capitol after a Republican lawmaker complained she was told a gun-rights group would run ads against her if she supported any of the bills.
 
And a Colorado-based manufacturer of ammunition magazines threatened to leave Colorado if a ban on high-capacity magazines becomes law, taking some 600 jobs with them.
 
Democrats amended the magazine-limit bill to allow the company to continue to sell the magazines for out-of-state use, leading Waller to call the Democrats hypocritical.
 
"Democrats stood in the well of the House and recounted all the mass shootings nationwide, then put in the amendment that says the company can sell magazines in every other state, including those that had tragic shootings," he said.
 
Biden's call to lawmakers during the debate asking them "to stay the course" is evidence state Democrats are being pressured to advance the president's gun-control agenda, Waller said.
 
Hickenlooper, a Democrat, said this week he supported the magazine limits and universal background check measures, but was undecided on the college campus ban.
 
(Editing by Dan Whitcomb and Todd Eastham)

http://news.yahoo.com/colo-house-passes-gun-control-measures-211816177.html

2/18/13

Colo. House passes gun-control measures

DENVER (AP) — Limits on the size of ammunition magazines and universal background checks passed the Colorado House on Monday, during a second day of emotional debates that has drawn attention from the White House as lawmakers try to address recent mass shootings.
 
The bills were among four that the Democratic-controlled House passed amid strong resistance from Republicans, who were joined by a few Democrats to make some of the votes close.
 
The proposed ammunition restrictions limit magazines to 15 rounds for firearms, and eight for shotguns. Three Democrats joined all Republicans voting no on the bill, but the proposal passed 34-31.
 
"Enough is enough. I'm sick and tired of bloodshed," said Democratic Rep. Rhonda Fields, a sponsor of the bill and representative of the district where the shootings at an Aurora theater happened last summer. Fields' son was also fatally shot in 2005.
 
Republicans argued that the proposals restrict Second Amendment rights and won't prevent mass shootings like the ones in Aurora and a Connecticut elementary school.
 
"This bill will never keep evil people from doing evil things," said Republican Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg.
 
The House also approved a bill requiring background checks on all gun purchases, including those between private sellers and firearms bought online.
 
Other proposals would ban concealed firearms at colleges and stadiums, and another requires that gun purchasers pay for their own background checks. Democrats eked out the closest vote on the background check measure, which passed on a 33-32 vote.
 
Democratic Rep. Ed Vigil, who represents rural southern Colorado, voted against the four bills, saying his decision was rooted in the state's rugged history.
 
"This is part of our heritage. This is part of what it took to settle this land. I cannot turn my back on that," he said.
 
But even though a few Democrats joined Republicans in voting no for the bills, the Democrats' 37-28 advantage in the House gave them enough leeway.
 
The Senate still needs to consider the proposals. Democrats will need to be more unified in their support there because their advantage is only 20-15. That means Republicans need only three Democrats to join them to defeat the bills.
 
House lawmakers began debating the bills Friday. Lawmakers debated for 12 hours before giving initial approval to the bills, setting up the final recorded votes Monday. During the debate Friday, Vice President Joe Biden called four Democrats, including two in moderate districts, to solidify support for the measures.
 
Democratic Rep. Dominick Moreno, who represents a district in suburban Denver, was among the four lawmakers. He said Biden "emphasized the importance of Colorado's role in shaping national policy around this issue."
 
Castle Rock Republican Rep. Carole Murray brought up Biden's calls during Monday's debate, saying she didn't appreciate "East-coast politicians" trying to influence Colorado legislators.
 
Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper supports the expanded background checks, and thinks gun buyers should pay for them. He also said he may support limits on the size of magazines, if lawmakers agree to a number between 15 and 20. He said he hasn't decided whether to support banning concealed firearms on campuses and stadiums.
 
Republicans say students should have the right to defend themselves.
 
"Do not disarm our young adults in general and our young women in particular on our college campuses in the name of a gun-free zone," Republican Rep. Jim Wilson said.
 
The gun debate highlights a fundamental philosophical difference between many Democrats and Republicans.
 
"I resent the implication that unless we all arm ourselves we will not be adequately protected," said Dickey Lee Hullinghorst, the Democrats' leader in the House.
 
Republican Rep. Christ Holbert became emotional while explaining his opposition to the bills. He said he understood Fields cares about the bills, because of her district and because her son was shot and killed in 2005.
 
"But I care passionately about the United States Constitution and the constitution of this state, and the oath that we have taken," Holbert said.

Background checks on private sales ain't going to fly. That's about as unreasonable and unrealistic as it gets. No, it's downright stupid, not to mention an attempt by government to close the noose even further.

No law will ever stop people from doing evil things. Never has, never will.

Seriously, consider that it is illegal to shoot somebody. And it's illegal to commit murder, but people still do it every day, even when there is a death penalty at risk.

http://news.msn.com/us/comcast-pulls-all-gun-ads-from-cable-network

Comcast pulls all gun ads from cable network

2/19/13

Gun shop owners are taking issue with the cable company's new policy banning firearms-related ads.

Gun shop owners are miffed that Comcast has decided to stop accepting firearms-related ads on its nationwide cable television network.

Tom Wright, owner of Williams Gun Sight in Davison, Mich., said he'll take his advertising business elsewhere.

"I thought it was ridiculous; we are a legitimate business, we have been here for 80 years," he told ABC12.

Wright said Comcast last week rejected his request through an ad agency to rerun a 30-second ad — a spot that it ran last fall — on local cable television.

"Obviously, this is an attempt on the part of Comcast to help promote an anti-gun agenda," the gun accessories company said on its Facebook page. "Williams is encouraging all of our customers and friends to voice your concerns directly with your local Comcast provider and consider cancelling your subscription."

Eric Elliott of VIP Marketing told The Post and Courier of Charleston, S.C., that he wanted to buy local spots on the night of Feb. 12, coinciding with the presidential State of the Union address, to advertise "ladies night" at the ATP Gunshop and Range in Summerville, S.C. He said he was informed by Comcast that the ads would not be accepted due to the new policy.

"Is it that they are trying to make a statement? If so, what is the statement? The most popular programs on these cable systems are shows with guns in them," Elliott told The Post and Courier.

In a statement provided to MSN News on Tuesday, Comcast Spotlight, the advertising sales division of Comcast Cable, said:

"Consistent with longstanding NBC policies, Comcast Spotlight has decided it will not accept new advertising for firearms or weapons moving forward. This policy aligns us with the guidelines in place at many media organizations."

Comcast is the largest cable television company in the United States, with 22 million subscribers in 39 states. It recently announced that it would become the sole owner of NBC Universal, purchasing the 49 percent stake it doesn't already own from General Electric for $16.7 billion.

Comcast declined further comment on the new ad policy.

Comcast joins a list of media companies, including ESPN and Time Warner Cable, that have banned or restricted firearms-related commercials in the aftermath of the shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., in December. Twenty first-graders and six adults were killed by a 20-year-old gunman, Adam Lanza, who then committed suicide.

Comcast's new ad policy also didn't sit well with gun-rights supporters, one of whom wrote on Williams Gun Sight's Facebook page:

"Just called Comcast and cancelled. I am tired of my $$ going to support anti 2nd amendment corporations. I can't believe the way they talk out both sides by showing gun violence every single night but won't accept $$ from a legitimate, legal, honest business like Williams! ENOUGH! Time to take a stand!"

Comcast was just ranked as one of the most complained about companies for poor customer service. Typical.

More people need to stop using their service, and all cable companies, satellite too. What a rip off. We pay way too much for too little service.

A bunch of junk channels they push on you in their "packages" that nobody would watch if they were individual channels and wouldn't make it on their own, plus they keep showing the same movies over, and over, and over, movies that have been shown on free network tv multiple times! And they expect people to keep paying for that stuff? Why pay an extra monthly fee for a movie channel that shows movies over and over again every month? It's stupid.

And what really gets me is this new extra charge for "HD" service. Pay extra monthly for a signal that is already HD? Really? And to top that, DirecTV wants you to pay $99 upfront for a HD receiver, plus the extra $10/month just to get HD signal (and you must sign a 2 year contract like the cell companies do which I refuse to do). You no pay extra, you no get HD service on any channel.

Now they are ripping people off on that, but if you get an HD antenna, you can get around 20 channels free, over the air, in true HD. Now how can the broadcast channels blast out HD signals for free, yet we have to pay DirecTV extra for a HD box, plus an extra fee each month? Theft is how.

Personally, I'm setting up my living room tv (run through home theater) with internet service (browsing the internet on a 55" screen is awesome!), and got a HD antenna to check how the channels are locally, and I must say they are an awesome picture. Definite HD signals, for free. We recently got a new 55" HD LCD, and are seriously considering dropping DirecTV completely and just use internet, and free broadcast tv. We already pay $50/month for internet, so we aren't happy paying right at $70/month (no movie channels at all for that price!) for DirecTV for their next to basic service.

Out of the channels we get in our package, we watch MAYBE 20 of the channels, and the ones we watch the most, maybe 10 channels. The rest are a waste of money, and I don't think most of those channels would make it if it were not for being part of a channel package where you must take the channel. Most cable channels wouldn't be around long at all if it were a la cart.

Like so many things in this world, tv service is bad and getting worse.

Gun-owner home searches 'Orwellian'
Democrats scramble to explain unconstitutional 'inspection'

A provision in a Washington-state gun-control bill is so draconian that even its sponsors backtracked or denied any knowledge of it when they were confronted by a left-leaning local columnist.

The “Orwellian” measure, reported Seattle Times columnist Danny Westneat, would allow the county sheriff to inspect the homes of owners of so-called “assault weapons” to ensure they’re storing their weapons safely.

A long-time Seattle radio talk-host, Dori Monson of KIRO, commented that whether the Democrat sponsors had no knowledge of the provision, as most claim, or whether they intentionally tried to pass it, Washington voters should be concerned.

“Either way, we have put control of our state in the hands of some really dangerous people,” he said.

While there is fierce debate over whether gun-control laws violate the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms, the bill’s home-inspection provision appears to be a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment’s protection against warrantless searches.

The bill’s chief aim is to ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons that use detachable ammunition magazines. It would prohibit clips that contain more than 10 rounds.

The provision that has even lawmakers on the left concerned addresses the thousands of semi-automatic weapons already owned by state residents.

Senate Bill 5737 states: “In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.”

Failure to comply could result in a year in jail.

Westneat cited the Seattle trial lawyer and self-described liberal who brought the bill to his attention.

“They always say, we’ll never go house to house to take your guns away. But then you see this, and you have to wonder,” said Lance Palmer.

Palmer noted he’s a liberal Democrat who voted for a Republican only once in his life.

“But now I understand why my right-wing opponents worry about having to fight a government takeover,” he said.

“It’s exactly this sort of thing that drives people into the arms of the NRA.”

A sponsor of the bill, a Seattle Democrat, told Westneat he didn’t know the bill authorized police searches.

“I made a mistake,” Adam Kline said. “I frankly should have vetted this more closely.”

The prime sponsor, Sen. Ed Murray, D-Seattle, confessed it’s probably unconstitutional.

“I have to admit that shouldn’t be in there,” Murray said.

Murray explained to Westneat he came to realize an assault-weapons ban has little chance of passing this year, so he inserted the provision as “a general statement, as a guiding light of where we need to go.”

Monson said one of his listeners received a reply from another sponsor, Democratic Sen. Jeannie Kohl-Welles, who called the provision “an error in the preparation of the bill.”

She said that if she had known it was in the bill, she wouldn’t have signed on as a sponsor.

“Of course I should have read the bill in its entirety prior to signing onto it; however, I received a briefing on it without mention of the warrantless search language,” the lawmaker said.

New York was the first state to pass strict controls on guns after the Sandy Hook shooting, banning assault weapons and magazines.

But as WND reported yesterday, Democratic lawmakers in gun-friendly Colorado, under pressure from the White House, have proposed a flurry of gun control bills, including one that would hold gun makers and owners responsible for any crimes committed by their weapons.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/gun-owner-home-searches-called-orwellian/#KVi4Ox1VRvUhOY7F.99

The problem with this angle is that they already have provisions for such inspections when you get a FFL, and it is up to the sheriff to inspect how you store your weapons. That's for a federal firearms license, but that still doesn't make it legal under the Constitution.

Not sure it's a 4th violation, seeing it's under the terms of standards, which I suspect would be their "probable cause". Now if there is not specific reasons for police entering the home, that's a different story.

Is it a 2nd Amendment violation? Personally, I understand the Constitution to say any regulation or restrictions on what arms a person bears is a violation. Restrictions and regulations clearly ignores "shall not be infringed".

It seems like the anti-gun lobby and the NWO-runned media will do everything they can to get their agendas through. This case has NOTHING to do with guns(or lack thereof). ZERO.

http://news.yahoo.com/pistorius-applied-licenses-6-more-guns-182418063--oly.html

Pistorius applied for licenses for 6 more guns

2/21/13

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — Oscar Pistorius applied for firearm licenses for six more guns weeks before the shooting death of girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp inside his house on Feb. 14, according to official records obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday.
 
The applications were made on Jan. 22, just over three weeks before Pistorius shot his girlfriend dead in his home with a licensed 9 mm pistol.
 
The athlete says the killing of Steenkamp was accidental as he thought she was a dangerous intruder inside his bathroom. Prosecutors say the double-amputee athlete intended to kill his girlfriend and have charged him with premediated murder.
 
In details obtained from the South African Police Service's National Firearms Center and given over the telephone, Pistorius applied for licenses for a Smith & Wesson model 500 revolver, a .38-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver, a Vector .223-caliber rifle and three shotguns: A Mossberg shotgun, a Maverick shotgun and a Winchester shotgun.

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Police urge fighting back against 'active shooters'...
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/02/21/bay-area-law-enforcement-encourages-fighting-back-against-active-shooters/


Group to give away shotguns in high-crime areas...
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/20/houston-group-giving-away-shotguns-high-crime-neighborhoods-to-test-if-crime-is-reduced/


MA lawmaker cheered for withdrawing 'assault weapon' ban...  
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/20/westford-selectman-proposes-ban-on-assault-weapons/

http://news.yahoo.com/gop-house-panel-chairman-consider-gun-bills-232642640--politics.html

2/22/13

GOP House panel chairman will consider gun bills

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee said Friday that he's interested in writing legislation this year improving background checks for gun buyers and **** down on illegal firearms sales.
 
In an interview, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., provided little detail about his plans. But he said the federal background check system should be fixed to make sure more people with serious mental illnesses don't get firearms.
 
Criminals and people with significant mental problems are among those barred by federal law from buying guns. States are supposed to supply the federal background check system with purchasers' mental health records, but often they do not because of privacy rules and other barriers.
 
"We want to improve that system to try to screen out people who should not be able to possess firearms," Goodlatte said.
 
Until now, House GOP leaders have only said they will wait to act until the Democratic-run Senate produces legislation. The Senate Judiciary Committee, led by Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., could begin writing its own gun curb measure in the next week or two.
 
Goodlatte did not say when his panel might write legislation, but he said he would not necessarily wait for the Senate to pass legislation.
 
President Barack Obama has proposed near-universal background checks. Currently, the checks are only required for purchases from federally licensed gun dealers, not sales between private individuals at gun shows, online or elsewhere.
 
Goodlatte said his legislation would be unlikely to require private background checks for private gun sales between people.
 
Obama also wants to ban assault weapons and ammunition magazines holding more than 10 rounds. Goodlatte said he opposes those ideas.
 
Goodlatte did not say when his panel might write legislation. His comments that the House would begin acting on gun legislation were first reported by Roll Call, a newspaper that covers Congress.
 
Details remain unclear about the mental health of Adam Lanza, who shot 26 people to death at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school in December. But shooters in some recent mass shootings have been afflicted with mental problems, including those involved in the Virginia Tech killings in 2007 and the 2011 Tucson attack that killed six people and wounded 13, including then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz.
 
As other congressional Republicans have done, Goodlatte also complained that current gun laws are not being enforced sufficiently. He and other GOP members of the Judiciary Committee wrote letters Friday to Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, asking for data on federal firearms prosecutions for the past 11 years.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/16/ammunition-shortage/1919321/

2/18/13

Gun dealers report shortages of ammunition

Retailers say much of the demand is from gun owners who are stockpiling in case certain weapons are banned.

Gun shops are running low on ammunition from a run by customers fearful of potential gun-control legislation, according to gun retailers and customers.

Prices have more than doubled over past year in some shops, retailers are putting limits on the amount a customer can buy, and some common types of ammunition, such as .22-caliber long rifle shells, are hard to get.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation, which represents ammunition makers, retailers, hunters and sport shooters, attributes what it calls "spot shortages" around the country to rising popularity of sport-shooting and hunting, and to people who are "keeping firearms for personal and home defense."

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in December reported recently that hunting license sales were up 9% from 2006 to 2011, reversing a 25-year decline. Michael Hampton, Jr., executive director of the National Skeet Shooting Association and the National Sporting Clays Association, says participation in those sports, which includes up to 4 million participants in each sport, is growing 3-5% annually.

But retailers say much of the demand is from gun owners who are stockpiling in case certain weapons are banned, who believe that economic chaos may be coming, or who are driven by rumors of inevitable background checks or rising taxes on ammunition. [size=14]Gun sellers and owners say a run on ammunition began shortly after President Obama was re-elected, and has intensified in the gun-violence debate since the December mass killing of 20 children and six adults at a school in Newtown, Conn[/size].

"We absolutely are in uncharted territory," said Larry Hyatt, of the family-owned Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte, N.C.. "Our store is 53 years old, and we have never seen anything like this. We have had some spot shortages and busy gun times in the past. This is a level (of demand) never before seen."

He adds: "The political turmoil is intensifying it. People feel like this administration is very anti-gun, and they are going for the legal gun owner." Among the rumors he hears, he says, are that taxes on ammunition are going up and that background checks for ammunition purchases are coming.

"Whether true or not, this information is out there, and people are getting it while they can," Hyatt says.

He is limiting sales of .22-caliber to one box, and is running low on everything from holsters to cleaning brushes.

Mike Wastler, manager of Bart's Sports World in Glen Burnie, Md., says he is also having trouble getting guns and ammunition from manufacturers who are "producing 24/7."

He says that even before Obama's re-election there was rising demand from people worried about economic chaos. Sales "went crazy" after Obama proposed banning assault weapons, he says

Wastler says certain types of .22 shells are "non-existent" in his store, and that others, like 9 mm, and .40 and .45 caliber are "very, very short." So are replacements parts for guns, he says.

While there are proposals to ban assault weapons, outlaw certain types of armor-piercing bullets, restrict the number of rounds in magazines for some guns, and end online ammunition sales, Obama and leading anti-gun violence proponents on Capitol Hill have not proposed background checks for ammunition, or restricting the amount of sales.

 The White House would not comment on the ammunition shortage, but Obama has asserted he is not out to infringe on Second Amendment rights.

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., has introduced legislation that would effectively ban online sales of ammunition, would require ammunition sellers to have a license, and to report to federal authorities the sale of more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to a single person. But McCarthy also says on her web site that protecting the Second Amendment right to bear arms for legal gun owners is one of her top priorities.

Her spokesman, Shams Tarek, says gun-rights advocates "are putting out this fear that people are trying to take away their guns, put really onerous restrictions on them, when that is not the case."

The run on ammunition comes amid Internet discussion about recent purchases of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and Social Security Administration.

Homeland Security solicited bids for up to 1.1 billion rounds of ammunition for over the next five years, but agency spokesman Marsha Catron says purchases may not run that high, and that most of it would go to required training for about 130,000 armed federal agents in various agencies. The DHS ammunition purchases have been steady since 2009.

Last year, after the Social Security Administration solicited bids for 174,000 rounds of .357 ammunition, the agency got so many questions from the public about why it needed that powerful of a bullet that its inspector general's office put out a statement explaining why.

The Social Security Administration has 295 armed agents that protect offices around the country, and that ammunition is standard issue for the arms they carry on the job, the agency said.

"Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately," read the Social Security statement. "They not only investigate allegations of Social Security fraud, but they also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees and customers."

Bid winner for the Homeland Security ammunition was ATK Armament Systems, a division of Alliant Technosystems Inc., and a major supplier of guns and ammunition for the military.

 According to a IBISWorld, a market analyst, ATK Armament is expected to post a 10% increase in revenue, to $1.7 billion, in 2013.

"While most Americans have cut back on their purchases of cars, clothing and other luxuries … gun enthusiasts are working themselves into a frenzy over what another four years under the Obama administration may hold for gun laws,'' IBISWorld reported in October. "As a result, they are purchasing firearms and ammunition at record rates.''

Greg Pacholczyk, who shoots everything from pistols to the AR-15 that the Obama administration wants to ban, says he is not in a frenzy, but that if he is in a store that carries ammunition, he looks to buy. The Marriottsville, Md., resident says AR-15 semi-automatic rifles are very hard to find for purchase, and that ammunition for it is hard to find, too.

"Gun replacement parts — if you have to find something as simple as a firing pin for an AR-15," it is very difficult, he says. "You read on the blogs people are practically giving away their first born for a little piece of metal."

Contributing: Kevin Johnson and Andria Yu

Surprise, surprise! This piece of legislation is being spread out over FOUR bills!

http://news.yahoo.com/separating-gun-control-bills-democrats-reveal-strategy-233554019.html

2/26/13

In separating gun-control bills, Democrats reveal strategy

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama's fellow Democrats in the Senate have spread his gun-control proposals across four bills in an effort to get at least some of the less controversial measures - such as expanded background checks for gun buyers - passed into law.
 
The Senate Judiciary Committee will vote as early as Thursday on the bills, which together amount to an acknowledgement by Democrats that a ban on military-style "assault" weapons is unlikely to clear Congress.
 
The proposed ban on assault weapons makes up one of the four gun-control bills, all of which are likely to be approved by the Democrat-led Judiciary Committee and be considered by the full Senate, congressional aides said Tuesday.
 
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat from Nevada, will decide how to package the measures for a vote on the Senate floor.
 
By breaking Obama's gun-control agenda into pieces, supporters hope to avoid having a less popular proposal such as the assault weapons ban contribute to the rejection of other proposals, aides said.
 
The proposed ban, introduced by Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, has drawn opposition from Republicans and some Democrats. It will be the focus of a Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday.
 
"We are taking a pragmatic approach that is designed to maximize our options," a senior Democratic aide said.
 
The four bills now before the Judiciary Committee include one introduced by Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the panel's chairman, that would crack down on illegal gun trafficking.
 
Another bill, by California Senator Barbara Boxer, is designed to increase school safety.
 
A bill, still being finalized, would call for "universal" background checks for all prospective gun buyers. Currently, only about 40 percent of buyers are screened for previous crimes or mental illness.
 
Feinstein's proposal, targets assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips like those used in the December 14 massacre at a school in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 20 children and six adults dead - and inspired the current action on gun control.
 
'NO WAY' ON ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
 
Wednesday's hearing is likely be the latest in a series of dramatic Capitol Hill hearings to reflect the passion surrounding the debate over gun control.
 
Those scheduled to testify include the father of one of the students killed in Newtown, and a doctor who was in a local emergency room when victims of the shootings were brought in.
 
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said Democrats "are trying to create political theater" with the hearing, and that there is no way an assault weapons ban will become law.
 
"It faces bipartisan opposition," he said.
 
Even so, all four of the gun-control bills are widely expected to sent to the full Senate on party-line votes of 10-8, Senate aides said.
 
But to clear procedural roadblocks from Republicans on the Senate floor, the measures will need 60 votes in the 100-member Senate, where Democrats and independents who support them account for 55 seats and Republicans hold 45.
 
There have been calls from those in both parties for expanded background checks in an effort to keep firearms out of the hands of convicted criminals and the mentally ill.
 
But a bipartisan deal has not yet been struck despite weeks of talks among four senators - Democrats Charles Schumer of New York and Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Republicans Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Mark Kirk of Illinois.
 
"It is the one thing we think can really pass, and we don't yet have an agreement on it," a Senate aide said.
 
On Tuesday, Coburn said, "We're still talking."
 
(Editing by David Lindsey and Cynthia Osterman)

http://news.yahoo.com/rep-bob-goodlatte-government-not-enforcing-existing-us-213539962.html
2/27/13

Rep. Bob Goodlatte: Government is not enforcing existing US gun laws

Two gun-control measures that could pass Congress include improving background check system and cracking down on illegal sales, says Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R) at a Monitor-sponsored breakfast on Wednesday.

House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte heads the committee that oversees immigration reform and gun control, among other issues. The Virginia Republican was the guest at the Feb. 27 Monitor Breakfast.

His approach to gun-control legislation:

The panel will “be engaged in looking at ways to improve our efforts to keep weapons out of the hands of people who perpetrate tragedies.... The states are not doing the job they should in terms of getting data into [the background check] system.... The federal government is not doing the job they should be doing in enforcing our current gun laws.”

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Nope, they aren't.

Oh, notice how the whole Fast and Furious investigation dropped right off the media radar?

We went from the government caught red-handed running guns to drug cartels, to the government basically threatening new gun laws for citizens.

People cannot convince me that "Problem, Reaction, Solution" is not being implemented.

They will receive their reward in due time!

Maryland Senate passes gun control bill

2/28/13

http://news.yahoo.com/maryland-senate-passes-gun-control-bill-204639781.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Maryland Senate approved a comprehensive gun control bill on Thursday that includes a ban on assault weapons and fingerprinting for prospective handgun buyers.
 
The Democratic-controlled Senate passed the bill 28-19 and sent it on to the House of Delegates, according to the chamber's website.
 
Democratic Governor Martin O'Malley proposed the measure in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut, school massacre in December in which 20 children and six adults died. The rampage reignited a national debate on gun control.
 
The bill has a licensing requirement for handgun buyers to submit fingerprints to state police. Gun buyers also have to complete an eight-hour safety training course and undergo a more rigorous background check before purchasing a weapon.
 
The measure bars anyone who has been involuntarily committed due to mental illness from possessing a firearm. It also bans assault weapons and limits magazine sizes.
 
(Reporting by Ian Simpson; Editing by Cynthia Johnston and Andre Grenon)
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http://news.yahoo.com/ny-exempt-tv-movies-under-states-gun-law-000632467.html

2/28/13 NY to exempt TV, movies under state's new gun law

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York sought to combat violence by rushing the nation's toughest gun control measure into law after the Connecticut school shootings that killed 26 people, but the state is now carving out an exemption to make sure movie and TV producers can stage running gun battles on Manhattan streets.
 
Movie and TV productions have long been courted by New York and other states with tax breaks in exchange for the jobs and glamour of the industry. Hollywood is also a major campaign fundraising stop for New York politicians.
 
"We spend a lot of money in the state bringing movie production here, post-production here, so obviously we would want to facilitate that," said Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who wants to expand the film and TV tax credit.
 
He said movies and TV may use fake guns that wouldn't be subject to the new law but the industry wants "certainty." The revised law would allow them to use real weapons without real ammunition.
 
"There's no reason not to make a change like that to give an industry comfort, especially when it's an industry we want to do business in the state," the governor said.
 
Film and television producers have spent more than $7 billion in New York since the state began offering tax breaks in 2004, the governor's office says. New York has been the stage for recent films including "Spider-Man 3," ''The Nanny Diaries," ''Sex and the City 2," and "The Sorcerer's Apprentice." Most of Woody Allen's films are made in New York City, and many TV shows including "Louie" turn to the city for their backdrop.
 
The Hollywood exemption is just one of the revisions planned for the state law that was passed in January before the Obama administration and other states offered their legislative responses to the Dec. 14 rampage in Newtown, Conn. Other changes to the New York law would allow police officers to keep their high-capacity handguns and take a loaded gun on school grounds without permission from school officials.
 
However, the need for a "cleanup" bill also means the fight over the law may not be over after all.
 
An estimated 10,000 opponents of the new law are expected to descend on Albany on Thursday to try to persuade lawmakers to take advantage of an unexpected second shot at the law critics claim is unconstitutional.
 
The law was passed in a flurry of closed-door negotiations, without public hearings or a three-day review required of bills under the state constitution. The measure was debated, passed and signed within hours, just days before President Barack Obama proposed his measures including tougher gun control.
 
"Had they not rushed this bill through, this bill would never have become law," said Assembly Republican leader Brian Kolb. "This opposition would have been mobilized ... this bill would do nothing to prevent the tragedies."
 
Most opponents have rallied around a call for repeal of the law, which would be impossible to pass through the Assembly led by New York City Democrats who have long championed gun control measures. But the cleanup bill provides an opportunity for lawmakers to submit more substantive changes.
 
Others are considering a strategy of blocking the bill from passage, which could bolster the chances of a pending lawsuit that seeks to overturn the law.
 
The law bans a broader array of military-style weapons, restricts ammunition magazines to seven rounds from 10, creates a more comprehensive database of people barred from owning guns, and makes New York the first state to require background checks to buy bullets.
 
Therapists, doctors and other mental health professionals will be required to tell state authorities if a patient threatens to use a gun illegally. Mental health advocates are also seeking amendments to the law they say may interfere with treatment of potentially dangerous people and discourage them from seeking help.
 
Cuomo and Sen. Jeffrey Klein, who co-sponsored the gun control legislation, said he and legislators are only discussing technical changes at this time.
 

http://news.yahoo.com/company-move-colo-approves-gun-control-160624180.html

3/2/13
Company will move if Colo. approves gun control

ERIE, Colo. (AP) — Unnoticed amid dozens of tract homes in the Denver suburbs, a nondescript industrial building is suddenly in the middle of the gun control debate in Colorado.
 
The company, started in an ex-Marine's basement in 1999, is in a standoff with Colorado Democrats who want to restrict the size of ammunition magazines after mass shootings in a suburban Denver movie theater and a Connecticut elementary school. Magpul has issued lawmakers an ultimatum potentially worth millions: Pass the bill, and the business will move.
 
It's a bold threat from a company that, by its founder's admission, has distanced itself from politics.
 
"The people who wrote the bill didn't even know we existed in the state," said Richard Fitzpatrick, the founder and president of the company that produces magazines and other firearm accessories for gun enthusiasts, law enforcement and the military.
 
The warning from Erie-based Magpul underscores the political pressures Democrats are weighing as they advance the strictest gun-control measures lawmakers have ever considered in a state that still prides its frontier spirit. Other gun-control proposals include universal background checks, a ban on concealed firearms on campuses, and holding assault-weapon sellers and owners liable for shootings.
 
Opponents need only three Democrats in the Senate to vote no against the magazine proposal to defeat it, and two have already said they won't support the bill. But most Democrats are not budging.
 
"When you have the means available to you at every single corner to commit a horrendous act, we will continue to see what we've seen, which is the status quo, where unfortunately gun violence and violence in general is prevalent in our communities," said Democratic Sen. Jessie Ulibarri, who will be considering the magazine bill on Monday in the Judiciary Committee. The bill has already passed the House, and Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper has promised to sign it.
 
The bill would make it a crime to have magazines that can carry more than 15 rounds, with a stricter limit of eight for shotguns. People who own larger magazines now would be allowed to keep them.
 
As the debate unfolds, states have made overtures to Magpul, including offering to pay their moving costs. The company won't name the states, but Wyoming and Texas have expressed interest in netting the $85 million the company projects it will spend in Colorado next year in payments to suppliers, subcontractors and service providers. Magpul said the move would also impact its 200 employees, plus an additional 400 who work for suppliers and subcontractors.
 
"It's not so much, 'Oh, these people are making something that's going to cost Colorado lives.' We truly believe this bill will do nothing. It's a feel-good measure," Fitzpatrick said. "But these (workers) will be directly affected."
 
Fitzpatrick said the bill's requirement that all magazines have serial numbers adds enough production costs to make it worth leaving. He also said smaller magazines can be easily connected to each other — magazines can be hooked up to make a 60-round magazine, for example — and the company fears it would legally liable if people were to do that.
 
Democrats have tried to ease Magpul's fears, amending the bill to make clear that the company can still manufacture magazines of any size, as long as they're sold only out-of-state, to the military or law enforcement.
 
Republicans who oppose the restrictions argue Democrats are sending mixed messages about gun control to keep a company in Colorado.
 
"It's being hypocritical. These things are either bad or they're not," said Republican Rep. Brian DelGrosso.
 
Magpul argues that limiting magazine sizes will not reduce gun violence, and that criminals will find ways around laws, including going to other states to buy larger magazines. Magpul officials note that some of their products sometimes end up in California, which limits magazine sizes to 10 rounds.
 
"The solutions that people want to bring up are hardware solutions," said Magpul Director Duane Liptak. "And they want to talk about this physical piece of equipment that's not inherently evil. It's not inherently good. It's a tool like anything else. It can be used for good, and it can be used improperly by people who have evil in their hearts."
 
Supporters of the proposals say Magpul is bluffing and that a move would prove too costly.
 
"I don't think Magpul is about to pull out," said Bill Hoover, 83, whose grandson AJ Boik was among the 12 killed in the theater shooting. "It's going to cost them a bundle of money."
 
Fitzpatrick said his company is serious.
 
"It's not really a threat. It's a promise," he said.
 
Sens. Lois Tochtrop and Cheri Jahn are the two Democrats voting against the bill. Both say they don't believe it addresses the main problem — mental health — and Tochtrop also cited Magpul's potential departure.
 
"I think we really need to address that problem. Look at the cause, not the tool," Tochtrop said.

Identifying mentally ill only small part in gun debate

Gun-control laws that require mental health professionals to report mentally ill people who are likely to harm others are unlikely to make a dent in gun violence, health researchers say.

In the two months since the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, lawmakers across the country have been grappling with ways to prevent gun violence, including proposals to prevent more mentally ill people from buying guns.

New York state's sweeping gun-control law requires mental health professionals to report the names of patients likely to seriously harm themselves or others.

A Maryland state task force also recommended a proposal— ultimately rejected by the governor — requiring psychiatrists, teachers and others to report people who threaten "suicide or serious violence" to authorities.

rest: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2013/03/03/mental-illness-gun-control/1928953/

Maryland Senate Passes Governor O’Malley’s Gun Control Bill

After 10 hours of intense debate, the Maryland Senate passed Governor Martin O’Malley’s gun control measure handily late Thursday afternoon, 28-19, with all 12 Republicans and a handful of Democrats voting against the bill. The measure will be debated in the House next week, with passage nearly certain. After O’Malley signs the bill into law it will make Maryland’s gun laws among the most restrictive in the nation, putting the lie to the state’s moniker, “The Free State.”

Maryland is also the nation’s wealthiest state, and its citizens currently have registered more than 1,200,000 of their firearms with the state under previous law. The new legislation will require gun owners, as well as new purchasers of firearms, to get fingerprinted, take eight hours of classroom study, and pay for a more extensive background check. In addition, no one will be able to buy a so-called “assault weapon” or purchase a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. The bill will also tighten up limits on gun ownership by residents committed against their will for mental health treatment.

When O’Malley announced his proposal in January, he said that the requirements in it were “common-sense gun safety measures … [that] will give us the tools to combat  … violence” but would also protect Marylanders’ Second Amendment rights. They were also touted as somehow being able to rein in criminal ownership of guns and reducing the firepower of those remaining in the hands of the public. At O’Malley’s public announcement, Baltimore County Police Chief Jim Johnson, a member of Vice President Joe Biden’s “National Law Enforcement Partnership,” said that that group “has been calling for background checks for all firearms purchasers, as well as a ban on semiautomatic assault weapons and ammunition magazines in excess of ten rounds… We must do all we can to ensure that we keep guns out of the wrong hands and that we keep excessive firepower out of our communities.”

When the senate passed the bill, O’Malley declared: “It is a common-sense licensing requirement. If you have to get a license to drive a car in Maryland … you should have to be licensed in order to operate a firearm.”

Maryland senate’s President Pro Tem Nathaniel McFadden, a member of the state senate for nearly 20 years, was delighted with the bill’s passage:

Residents are sick and tired of this gun violence. No, this is not a perfect bill. Because you’re right — those criminals are not going to go and get fingerprinted.

But somehow these guns find their way into our communities.… They come from somewhere, and you can get a gun quicker than you [can] get an apple or an orange in my community. It’s outrageous, and we have to start somewhere.

rest: http://www.infowars.com/maryland-senate-passes-governor-omalleys-gun-control-bill

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1242881-fbi-firearm-background-checks-to-top-2m-in-february?source=yahoo

FBI Firearm Background Checks To Top 2M In February

3/4/13
The political push for new gun control measures continues to spur heightened demand for firearms. My company, Pipeline Data, estimates that February data will show there were 2,200,000 background checks done through the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).

This number will represent just a slight decline from the 2,495,000 checks performed in January. That was the second highest total on record (December was the highest with 2,784,000 checks). If accurate, February's figure will represent a 26% increase over February 2012, exceeding the 19% growth rate for all of 2012.

If you think this is bullish for Sturm, Ruger & Co (RGR) and Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (SWHC), hold your horses - there's a little bear in the room.

As you can see from the chart below, annual growth fluctuated throughout the year until September. After that month's 16% increase, growth steadily accelerated for several consecutive months. October came in at 20%. November's growth was 31%, followed by a 49% increase in December.

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http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-lawmakers-advance-gun-control-162524793.html

3/5/13
Colorado lawmakers advance gun control bills

Gun rights supporters descend on Colorado Capitol as lawmakers advance gun control bills

DENVER (AP) -- A series of sweeping gun-control measures in Colorado is on track to hit the governor's desk by the end of the month, with Democratic committees in the Legislature advancing all the bills despite a Capitol packed with hundreds of opponents and surrounded by cars circling the Capitol blaring their horns.

Gun limits including expanded background checks and ammunition magazine limits were helped Monday by testimony from the husband of former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and victims of mass shootings in Connecticut and suburban Denver.

Colorado has become a focus point in the national debate over what new laws, if any, are needed to prevent gun violence after recent mass shootings, including an attack at an Aurora movie theater last summer — a massacre that brought to mind the Columbine High School shooting of 1999 for many in the state and across the nation.

The seven gun-control measures cleared their committees on 3-2 party-line votes and are planned for debate by the full Senate by Friday. Four of the seven have already cleared the House, making it possible some of them will land on the desk of Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper within weeks.

"I think they'll all pass. I really do," said Democratic Senate President John Morse. "And I think they all should pass. I think any of them failing doesn't make Colorado as safe as we could make Colorado."

A biplane flying above the Capitol Monday warned the governor, "HICK: DO NOT TAKE OUR GUNS!" Hickenlooper backs expanded background checks and has said he's considering a bill to limit ammunition magazines to 15 rounds. He hasn't indicated where he stands on other measures, including whether he supports a proposal that would hold sellers and owners of assault weapons liable for shootings by such firearms.

Gun rights supporters walked the Capitol halls wearing stickers that read, "I Vote Pro-Gun." Several dozen people outside the Capitol waved American flags as light snow fell.

Inside, retired astronaut and Navy captain Mark Kelly told lawmakers that he and his wife, Giffords, support the Second Amendment, but he said the right to bear arms shouldn't extend to criminals and the mentally ill.

Kelly compared the different background check requirements for private and retail sales with having two different lines at the airport, one with security and one without.

"Which one do you think the terrorist is going to choose?" he asked.

Giffords, a former Democratic congresswoman from Tucson, Ariz., was severely wounded in a mass shooting in January 2011 while meeting with constituents.

Gun control opponents say the proposals will not reduce violence. They say lawmakers should focus on strengthening access to mental health services for people who could be dangerous to communities.

The bill hearings were at times testy, and included some outbursts from the audience. After one bill passed, someone leaving the committee yelled "That sucks!" to lawmakers.

"I've never seen such unprofessional behavior," Democratic Sen. Irene Aguilar told the audience at one point.

The commotion at the Capitol underscored the attention the debate has generated nationally from gun rights groups, such as the National Rifle Association, to victims' families and White House officials.

One of the nation's largest producers of ammunition magazines, Colorado-based Magpul, has threatened to leave the state if lawmakers restrict the size of its products. Its founder said smaller magazines can be easily connected to each other and the company fears it would be legally liable if people were to do that.

Victims who have lost relatives to gun violence say it's time for legislators to take action.

Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was among the 12 killed in the Aurora theater shooting, was among the people urging lawmakers to pass magazine restrictions.

"He was enjoying the movie one second, and then the next second he was dead," Tom Sullivan said.

Jane Dougherty, whose sister, Mary Sherlach, was a psychologist killed in the shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., has been lobbying Colorado lawmakers to pass new gun laws. She said she doesn't understand gun owners who worry the bills are putting a burden on their rights.

She said the Connecticut shooter used "the same type of weapon that we use in war" to "slaughter these babies" and asked lawmakers for stricter gun laws.

"We cannot wait for yet another massacre to transpire," Dougherty said.

http://news.yahoo.com/key-republican-says-may-back-two-gun-control-011754966.html

3/5/13
Key Republican says he may back two gun-control bills

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top Republican on the Democrat-led U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee said on Tuesday that he may back at least two of the four gun-control bills that the panel will consider this week.
 
Iowa Senator Charles Grassley's support could help both measures - one aimed at cracking down on illegal gun trafficking, the other designed to bolster security at schools - pass the Senate.
 
But Grassley, echoing many other Republicans in Congress, said he would not support a plan to renew a ban on the sale of military-style, semi-automatic "assault" weapons.
 
Grassley's reluctance to embrace the assault weapons ban - and his hesitance on another measure that would expand background checks on prospective gun buyers - reflect the difficulty that Democrats are likely to face in getting a comprehensive gun-control package through Congress.
 
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A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump...just saying...

FYI, Grassley is a Freemason!(1:10 mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z27gmBMXuO0

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/05/Homeland-Security-Drones-Designed-To-Identify-Civilians-Carrying-Guns

Homeland Security Drones Designed to Identify Civilians Carrying Guns

3/5/13
Recently uncovered government documents reveal that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) unmanned Predator B drone fleet has been customize designed to identify civilians carrying guns and track cell phone signals.
 
"I am very concerned that this technology will be used against law-abiding American firearms owners," said founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation Alan Gottlieb. “This could violate Fourth Amendment rights as well as Second Amendment rights."

The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) obtained a partially redacted copy of Homeland Security’s drone requirements through a Freedom of Information Act request; CNET uncovered an unredacted copy.

Homeland Security design requirements specify that its Predator B drones “shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not” and must be equipped with “interception” systems capable of reading cell phone signals.

The first known domestic use of a drone to arrest a U.S. citizen occurred last year in the small town of Lakota, North Dakota when rancher Rodney Brossart was arrested for refusing to return six of his neighbor’s cows that had wandered on to his property. Critics say the fact that domestic drones are being used in such minor matters raises serious concerns about civil liberties and government overreach.

"That drone is not just picking up information on what's happening at that specific scene, it's picking up everything else that's going on," says drone expert and Brookings Institution senior fellow Peter Singer. "Basically it's recording footage from a lot of different people that it didn't have their approval to record footage.”

Others, like progressive author Naomi Wolf, have warned that domestic drones may soon be weaponized. The military version of the Predator B drone carries 100-pound Hellfire missiles, but the Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP) says the 10 drones in its domestic fleet are unarmed.
 
Last month, NBC News uncovered a confidential 16-page Justice Department memo that concluded the U.S. government may execute a drone strike on a American citizen it believes to be a “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force.”

The Obama Administration defended the use of drones to kill Americans thought to be working with terrorists.  “These strikes are legal, they are ethical, and they are wise,” said White House press secretary Jay Carney.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gun-advocates-part-ways-nra-background-check-issue-170211612--election.html

3/6/13
Gun manufacturers group won’t fight background checks

The nation's leading lobby for gun manufacturers said in an interview with The Washington Post that it will not oppose legislation to expand background checks for gun purchases.
 
"That’s more the NRA’s issue,” Steve Sanetti, president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), told The Washington Post. “From the commercial side, we’re already there, and we’ve been there, and we were the ones that have been the strongest proponents of an effective, complete background check.”
 
The group's position puts them at odds with the powerful National Rifle Association and is also a potential boon for a bipartisan group of senators working on legislation to expand background checks. Currently, gun buyers must pass a background check to prove they do not have a serious criminal record or have been declared mentally ill by a judge before they can purchase a weapon. But those who buy from private gun dealers can avoid this check.
 
The NRA has taken a strong stance against expanding background checks to firearms sales made by private dealers, arguing that closing the loophole will still not stop criminals from getting guns.

"When it comes to the issue of background checks, let’s be honest—background checks will never be 'universal' because criminals will never submit to them," NRA Executive Vice President and CEO Wayne LaPierre said at a Senate Judiciary Committee meeting in January.
 
Expanding background checks has attracted more bipartisan support than some of the other laws sought by President Barack Obama and other Democrats, including renewing a ban on some semi-automatic weapons and banning high-capacity magazines that carry more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

50+ bills in the US Congress. This doesn’t include the plethora of state-by-state bills.

There are close to 30 bills in California legislature alone.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_22724227/list-gun-bills-pending-congress-and-california-legislature

U.S. SENATE

S. 2, the Sandy Hook Elementary School Violence Reduction Act, by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. -- S.2 would express the Senate's support for the president's gun-violence reduction efforts and other common-sense proposals; for aid to law enforcement officers; for safe learning conditions for school students; for developing tools to identify people who pose a threat to themselves or others; for keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals and others not legally allowed to have them; and so on. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.2:

S. 22, the Gun Show Background Check Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. --S.22 would require background checks for all firearms sales at gun shows, with "gun show" defined to include any place where more than 50 guns are on sale/display. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.22:

S.33, the Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. -- S.33 would prohibit the sale, transfer, importation or possession of any magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, unless it was made before the law's effective date. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00033:

S.34, the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. -- S. 34 would prohibit those on the government's terrorism watch list from buying a firearm or obtaining an explosives license. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00034:

S.35, the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. -- S.35 would require face to face purchases of ammunition, require licensing of ammunition dealers, and require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00035:

S.54, the Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. -- S.54 would specifically prohibit the straw purchase of firearms and beef up the law prohibiting material false statements when purchasing a firearm, establishing penalties for anyone who buys a firearm or ammunition with the intent to transfer it to someone else, particularly in cases involving crimes of violence or drug trafficking. The bill also expands existing trafficking law to make it a crime for an individual to smuggle firearms out of the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.54:

S. 82, the Separation of Powers Restoration and Second Amendment Protection Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. -- S. 82, the companion bill to HR 410, would invalidate any past, present or future executive actions on gun control, like those President Obama took Jan. 16, rendering them as advisory only unless Congress enacts them. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.82:

S. 147, the Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. -- S. 147 would require that each state that allows residents to carry concealed firearms create a permit process involving local law enforcement and requiring that those receiving permits be legal U.S. residents, at least 21 years old, have good cause for requesting the permit, and demonstrate that he/she is worthy of public trust. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00147:

S. 150, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. -- S.150 would ban semi-automatic weapons that can accept a detachable ammunition magazine and also have one or more specific military-style characteristics, including pistol grips, flash suppressors and a folding or telescoping stock. It also would ban large-capacity magazines and other ammunition-feeding devices holding more than 10 rounds. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00150:

S.174, the Ammunition Background Check Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn. -- S.174 would require an instant background check for the purchase of ammunition, and would restore pre-1986 requirements that sellers track their inventory and keep records of their customers; purchases of 1,000 rounds or more, or thefts of large amounts of ammunition, would have to be reported to law enforcement. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00174:

S.179, the Gun Trafficking Prevention Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y. -- S.179, like companion bill H.R.452, would make a federal crime of buying or transferring a firearm with the intent to deliver it to someone else who's barred by state or federal law from having it; impose prison terms of up to 20 years for such "straw purchasers"; and provide stiffer penalties for organizers or managers of firearms trafficking networks. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00179:

S.261, the No Firearms for Foreign Felons Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. -- S. 261 would prohibit anyone convicted of a felony or crime of domestic violence in a foreign court from possessing a firearm in the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00261:

S.374, the Protecting Responsible Gun Sellers Act of 2013, by U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. -- S.374 would make congressional findings that Congress supports and respects Second Amendment rights and the existing prohibition on a national firearms registry, but also that the Justice Department should make a priority of closing holes in its firearm background check system and that citizens should be more vigilant about keeping firearms from dangerously mentally ill people. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s.00374:

U.S. HOUSE

HR 21, the NRA Members' Gun Safety Act of 2013, by Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va. -- HR 21 would require a background check for every firearm sale or transfer, with the only exceptions being gifts between immediate family members; probate or executor transfers after the owner's death; a loan to someone who believes they need the firearm in their home to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm; and certain loans while target shooting, hunting, fishing or trapping. It also would require owners to report a firearm's theft or loss within 48 hours, and would require any state that allows concealed carry to establish a permit process if it doesn't already have one. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.00021:

HR 34, Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2013, by Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill. -- HR 34 would bar anyone from buying or owning a firearm without a background check and government-issued license; the U.S. Attorney General would establish a federal record-of-sale system, and any firearm thefts or losses would have to be reported to the government within three days. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.00034:

HR 35, the Safe Schools Act of 2013, by Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas -- HR 35 would repeal federal laws mandating "gun free zones" around schools. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.35:

HR 65, the Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act of 2013, by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas -- HR 65 would raise the minimum age for handgun ownership from 18 to 21; prohibit people under 21 from possessing "semiautomatic assault weapons or large capacity ammunition feeding devices"; stiffen federal criminal penalties for gun ownership violations by minors and for selling or giving handguns, assault weapons or large-capacity magazines to minors knowing they intended to use it for crime; requires all firearm sales to include a gun storage or locking device; prohibits keeping a loaded firearm or unloaded firearm and ammunition within a child's reach; and lets the attorney general provide federal grants for gun-safety classes for parents and children. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.65:

HR 93, the Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act, by Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I. -- HR 93 would close the "fire sale loophole," which lets gun dealers with revoked licenses transfer their weapons to their private collections, then sell the firearms in inventory clearance sales without federal background checks. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.93:

HR 117, the Handgun Licensing and Registration Act of 2013, by Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J. -- HR 117 would require that each state provide for the mandatory licensing and registration of every handgun sold in the future. The bill is based upon New Jersey's mandatory handgun registration law. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.00117:

HR 133, the Citizens Protection Act of 2013 by Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky. -- HR 133 would repeal federal laws mandating "gun free zones" around schools. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.133:

HR 137, the Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013, by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y. -- HR 137 would require a background check for every firearm sale and "ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system," in part by widening the range of mental-health situations reportable to the FBI's background check database. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.137:

HR 138, the Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act, by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y. -- HR138 is the House companion bill to Lautenberg's S.33. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.138:

HR 141, the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013, by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y. -- HR 141 would require criminal background checks on all firearms transactions occurring at gun shows. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.141:

HR 142, the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013, by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y. -- HR142 is the House companion bill to Lautenberg's S.35. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.142:

HR 226, the Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction (SAFER) for our Streets Act, by Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. -- HR 226 would create a $2,000 refundable tax credit ($1,000 for two consecutive years) for an assault weapon owner who turns in his or her firearm to state police. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.226:

HR 227, the Buyback our Safety Act, by Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla. -- HR 227 authorizes $15 million over 5 years for the Justice Department to provide matching grants to local law enforcement agencies for firearms buyback programs. The bill also directs the National Academy of Sciences to identify guns most often used in violent crimes and create a pricing scale for buying such weapons. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.227:

HR 236, the Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013, by Rep. James Langevin, D-RI -- HR 236 would increase the ability of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to inspect federal firearms licensees for compliance with recordkeeping requirements by increasing the allowable inspections per year from one to three; increase the penalties for knowingly misrepresenting any facts about a firearms sale; and authorize the attorney general to suspend a dealer's license and assess civil penalties for firearms violations, including failure to have secure gun storage or safety devices. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.236:

HR 238, the Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act, by Rep. Grace Meng, D-N.Y. -- HR 238 would close the "fire sale loophole," which lets gun dealers with revoked licenses transfer their weapons to their private collections, then sell the firearms in inventory clearance sales without federal background checks. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.238:

HR 321, the Firearm Safety and Public Health Research Act of 2013, by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. -- HR 321 would release the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health from restrictions placed on them in 1996 that have prohibited them from conducting peer-reviewed research into gun violence prevention. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.321:

HR 322, the Hunting, Fishing and Recreational Shooting Protection Act, by Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla. -- HR 322 would exclude all firearm and ammunition components from the definition of "chemical substance" under federal environmental laws, so that the lead and other substances in ammunition couldn't be regulated or restricted. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.322:

HR 329, the Strengthening Background Checks Act of 2013, by Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick, R-Pa. -- H.R. 329 would require states to share mental-health information with the FBI's system or else lose 10 percent of their federal Justice Assistance Grants for local police. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.00329:

HR 332, the Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun Violence Act, by Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Burbank -- HR 332 lets civil cases proceed against irresponsible bad actors in the gun industry who turn blind eyes to straw purchases and trafficking, overriding a 2005 law that providing immunity from civil liability in state and federal court for gun makers, distributors and dealers. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.332:

HR 339, the Fairness in Firearm Testing Act, by Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga. -- HR 339 amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to direct the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to make a video recording of the entire process of its examination and testing of an item for the purpose of determining if it's a firearm (and if so, the firearm's type) or ammunition; the bill also bars ATF from editing or erasing any such recording. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.339:

HR 404, the Straw Purchaser Penalty Enhancement Act, by Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Burbank -- HR 404 adds more prison time for those convicted of making straw purchases of firearms, and forbids courts from putting such convicts on probation or reducing their prison term to compensate for multiple convictions. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.404:

HR 410, the Restore the Constitution Act of 2013, by Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas -- HR 410, the companion bill to S. 82, would invalidate any past, present or future executive actions on gun control, like those President Obama took Jan. 16, rendering them as advisory only unless Congress enacts them. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.410:

HR 427, the Trafficking Reduction and Criminal Enforcement (TRACE) Act, by Rep. Mike Quigley, D-Ill. -- HR 427 would require that federal background check records be maintained for at least 180 days, rather than the current 24-hour limit; that gun dealers do inventory checks to report lost or stolen guns; and that new firearms include a second, hidden serial number printed inside the receiver which could only be removed by dismantling the entire weapon. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.427:

HR 431, the Gun Transparency and Accountability Act of 2013, by Rep. Jackie Speier, D-San Mateo -- HR 431 would abolish a series of 2004 amendments that weakened gun safety rules: the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives could once again use information on guns traced to crimes; background check information wouldn't have to be destroyed within 24 hours; and the ban on federally required inventory audits of gun dealerships would be lifted. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.431:

HR 437, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y. -- HR 437 is the House companion bill to Feinstein's S.150. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.00437:

HR 449, by Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla. -- HR 449 would provide a 90-day amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record any firearm acquired before October 31, 1968, by a veteran while a member of the Armed Forces stationed outside the continental United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.449:

HR 452, the Gun Trafficking Prevention Act of 2013, by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. -- HR 452 would make a federal crime of buying or transferring a firearm with the intent to deliver it to someone else who's barred by state or federal law from having it; impose prison terms of up to 20 years for such "straw purchasers;" and provide stiffer penalties for organizers or managers of firearms trafficking networks. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.452:

HR 538, the Protect Law Enforcement Armor Act (PLEA) Act, by Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y. -- HR 538 would expand federal law's definition of "armor piercing ammunition" to include certain handgun ammunition that can pierce body armor, and would ban the making, sale and possession of any handgun that uses such ammunition. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.538:

HR 575, the Second Amendment Protection Act of 2013, by Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas -- HR 575 would express the sense of Congress that the United States should not adopt any treaty that threatens national sovereignty or abridges rights guaranteed by the Constitution, such as the right to bear arms, and should stop providing financial support to any entity that does so. It would bar the United States from providing any funding to the United Nations for a fiscal year unless the president certifies to Congress that the U.N. has not acted to infringe on individuals' rights in the United States to have a firearm or ammunition, or abridge any other constitutionally protected rights of U.S. citizens. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.575:

HR 577, the Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act, by Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas -- HR 577 would make sure any veteran deemed mentally incapacitated, mentally incompetent or experiencing an extended loss of consciousness in a Department of Veterans Affairs case is not considered mentally defective for purposes of prohibition from firearm ownership without a separate court order or finding that the person is a danger to self or others. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgibin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.577:

HR 578, the Respecting States' Rights and Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2013, by Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind. -- HR 578 would guarantee that individuals who legally carry a concealed weapon in their home state may also carry in any other state that allows concealed carry. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.578:

HR 602, the Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act, by Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla. -- HR 602 is the same as HR 577. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR00602:

HR 619, the Keep Kids Safe Act of 2013, by Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. -- HR 619 would prohibit possession of a firearm by, or the sale or transfer of a firearm to, anyone who has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor sex offense against a minor. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR00619:

HR 661, the Tiahrt Restrictions Repeal Act, by Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Oakland -- Like HR 427 and HR 431, HR 661 would repeal current provisions that require federal firearm background check records to be destroyed within 24 hours; prohibit ATF from requiring licensed dealers to conduct annual inventory checks to detect lost and stolen guns; and restrict state and local authorities from using trace data to fully investigate corrupt gun dealers and traffickers. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR00661:

HR 720, the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2013, by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. -- HR 720 would let the attorney general deny the right to buy firearms or to get a firearms and explosive license to anyone engaged in, or who has providing material support to, terrorism and might use a firearm or explosive to terroristic ends; those denied firearms or licenses could challenge it in court. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR00720:

HR 722, the Detectives Nemorin and Andrews Anti-Gun Trafficking Act of 2013, by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. -- HR 722 would impose stiffer penalties for gun-trafficking crimes; expand the Justice Department's "Project Safe Neighborhoods" program; require the attorney general to make a report to Congress every two years on gun traces and trafficking prosecutions; require the FBI to share its National Crime Information Center Stolen Gun File with ATF; impose a 5-year prison term for having a stolen firearm or a firearm with an obliterated serial number while committing any felony; and impose a 7-, 9- or 12-year penalty for using such a firearm during a violent or drug-trafficking crime. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR00722:

HR 793, the Firearm Safety and Buyback Grant Act of 2013, by Rep. Linda Sanchez, D-Cerritos -- HR 793 would establish a grant program within the Department of Justice in which grants would be eligible to state, tribal and local units of government and law enforcement agencies to carry out anti-violence campaigns, gun safety campaigns and firearms buyback programs. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR00793:

HR 848, the Armed Prohibited Persons Act of 2013, by Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Napa -- H.R. 848 would make federal grants available to states that develop programs with the goal of removing firearms from people no longer allowed to own guns due to criminal convictions, mental illness incidents or other causes. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:H.R.848:

H.Res. 40 by Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga. -- H.Res.40 would expresses the House's sense that active-duty military personnel stationed or living in the District of Columbia should be allowed to fully exercise their Second Amendment rights and be exempt from the district's gun control laws. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d113:40:./list/bss/d113HE.lst::

H.Res. 55 by Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla. -- H.Res.55 would condemn "unfounded reliance on Stand Your Ground laws to protect actions that extend far beyond historical use of self-defense;" urge any state legislature to reject or repeal such bills and laws; calls for creating incentives for states to find alternatives to such laws, such as community-policing grants; encourages states to create penalties for those found to have caused "substantive harm" through racial profiling;" and urges the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights to seek to study black males' higher rates of school expulsions and suspensions, homicides, incarceration, poverty, violence, drug abuse and other disparities. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d113:55:./list/bss/d113HE.lst::

See, that to me shows that politicians are out of control and not listening to the people they represent. The sheer number of bills submitted each year is mind boggling. And all of this takes place outside of the public's ability to vote on anything. Politicians simply pass a bill and the president signs it into law. Done. No public input allowed, though they tell the public to "contact your congressman". Yeah right. That's all backwards, as the politician is suppose to contact the public and ask them what they want, not tell the public how it's going to be.

http://news.yahoo.com/giffords-urges-support-background-checks-203406672.html

3/6/13
Giffords Visits Rampage Site, Urges Gun Control

Former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords returned to the scene of the horrific shooting that wounded her and killed six people two years ago, urging senators Wednesday to pass background checks for gun purchases in her first public event at the site since the rampage.

Giffords, who is still recovering from her injuries, spoke fewer than 20 words in the parking lot of the Safeway grocery store in her hometown of Tucson in a brief but emotional call for stricter gun control measures.

"Be bold. Be courageous," Giffords said. "Please support background checks."

At one point, Giffords pumped her fist in the air and grinned.

Other survivors joined Giffords at the news conference, along with her husband, Mark Kelly. Giffords and Kelly have returned to the Safeway previously to visit the memorial, but Wednesday marked their first public event at the store since the shooting. Sheriff's deputies were there to provide security.

A gun control group started by Giffords and Kelly began airing a new television ad in Arizona and Iowa Tuesday urging Congress to take action. Giffords and Kelly support extending background checks to gun shows and Internet purchases. The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to take up tougher firearm regulations Thursday. Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, who sits on the committee, has criticized universal background checks.

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-owners-lawyering-even-shots-fired-191305639.html

Gun owners arming themselves with lawyers even before shots are fired

3/7/13
Beyond guilt or innocence, the case against Florida murder suspect George Zimmerman will undoubtedly leave him broke.
 
The controversial concealed handgun license holder made headlines last spring when he claimed he killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in self-defense during a violent scuffle. Zimmerman hasn’t worked in the year since the shooting and faces a mountain of debt to avoid a possible 25 years to life in prison.

“He’s going through $1 million of costs, and his life is being destroyed because he acted properly in the use of his weapon,” his attorney, Mark O’Mara, told Yahoo News. “Other people need to learn a very expensive lesson from George, in that you need to be careful even when you use your weapon properly.”
 
Gun owners seem to be heeding the message that, even in self-defense, pulling the trigger can be a costly proposition. Exact stats aren’t kept, but anecdotal evidence points to more gun owners proactively seeking legal assistance.

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http://news.yahoo.com/senate-committee-oks-bill-curbing-gun-purchases-185202608--politics.html

3/7/13
Senate committee OKs bill curbing gun purchases
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate Judiciary Committee approved legislation Thursday toughening laws against people who illegally buy guns for others as lawmakers cast the first votes in Congress to curb firearms since December's horrific shootings at a Connecticut elementary school.
 
The panel was also debating bills banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines, requiring background checks for nearly all gun purchases, and providing more money for schools to buy video cameras and other safety equipment.
 
The committee voted 11-7 to approve the measure, which boosted penalties against straw purchases, when people legally buy firearms for criminals or others legally barred from owning one. Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, was the only Republican to vote in favor of the measure, whose chief sponsor was the panel's chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.
 
"We know that many guns used in criminal activities are acquired through straw purchases. We need a meaningful solution to this serious problem," Leahy said.

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Exactly!

Cupcakes With Army Soldiers Get Kid In Hot Water At School

A 9-year-old boy’s birthday cupcakes sparked a school controversy that just keeps growing, with scores of people lining up against a school principal who found the cupcake’s topping “inappropriate.”

The boy was chided, and so were his parents, for cupcakes featuring little green Army men on the top.

Schall Elementary School principal Susan Wright called the parents at home and said the cupcakes were insensitive in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shooting. School staff pulled off the Army men before they were served.

The parents reacted by calling the media.

And the principal, who refused to speak publicly on the issue, issued an extensive statement that said, in part:

“In the climate of recent events in schools we walk a delicate balance in teaching non-violence in our buildings and trying to ensure a safe, peaceful atmosphere. On one hand, there are those who advocate arming teachers, having armed security guards and creating a fortress of defense in our schools. On the other hand, there are those who feel that guns create fear in schools and we need to put solid security measures in place  plus practice routines to be prepared in case an emergency should ever occur. Living in a democratic society entails respect for opposing opinions.”

She added that some parents “prohibit all guns as toys,” and “no disrespect” was intended for members of the military, however, “Our commitment is always to our children and creating a safe place for them to learn, grow and have respectful dialogues about their differences.”

Martial arts instructor Josh Brown, who teaches both the father and son through his school at Caro Martial Arts, is one of the outraged local residents.

“He’s a little 9-year-old kid and it was his birthday cupcakes,” Brown said. “These guys (soldiers) are heroes, and too many people are confusing them with psychopaths.”

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/03/08/cupcakes-with-army-soldiers-get-kid-in-hot-water-at-school/

Feinstein: Veterans May Have PTSD And Should Not Be Exempt From Assault Weapons Ban

At a Senate Judiciary Committee meeting on Thursday, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) opposed an amendment to her Assault Weapons Ban legislation that would allow military veterans to continue to buy the firearms that would be banned. Feinstein says a veteran may be mentally ill and should be prevented from purchasing firearms.



SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN: If I understand this, this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military.

The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.

So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to-- if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/08/feinstein_veterans_may_have_ptsd_and_should_not_be_exempt_from_assault_weapons_ban.html


Sen. Feinstein Makes Wild Claim to Push Gun Control at Senate Committee Hearing

During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on gun control Thursday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) shot down a proposed amendment to her “assault weapons” ban that would exempt military veterans from the gun ban. She also made some questionable claims.

Pushing a ban on high-capacity magazines, Feinstein argued that it is “legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines.”

Here’s her dubious rationale:

“The time has come, America, to step up and ban these weapons. The other very important part of this bill is to ban large capacity ammunition feeding devices, those that hold more than 10 rounds. We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines. Limiting magazine capacity is critical because it is when a criminal, a drug dealer, a deranged individual has to pause to change magazines and reload that the police or brave bystanders have the opportunity to take that individual down.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/08/sen-feinstein-makes-bizarre-claim-to-push-gun-control-at-hearing-its-legal-to-hunt-humans-with-high-capacity-magazines/

She's a total nut job. ::)

Believe me - I've seen FAR worse in my days in elementary school in the 80's than THIS.

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-enterprise-nixon-wished-total-handgun-ban-081806381.html
3/11/13
AP Enterprise: Nixon Wished for Total Handgun Ban

Few presidents in modern times have been as interested in gun control as Richard Nixon, of all people. He proposed ridding the market of Saturday night specials, contemplated banning handguns altogether and refused to pander to gun owners by feigning interest in their weapons.

Several previously unreported Oval Office recordings and White House memos from the Nixon years show a conservative president who at times appeared willing to take on the National Rifle Association, a powerful gun lobby then as now, even as his aides worried about the political ramifications.

"I don't know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house," Nixon said in a taped conversation with aides. "The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth." He asked why "can't we go after handguns, period?"

Nixon went on: "I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it." But "people should not have handguns." He laced his comments with obscenities, as was typical.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/colorado-senate-voting-gun-control-bills-18702617
Colorado Senate Voting on Gun Control Bills
3/11/13

Colorado senators were expected to take final votes Monday on several gun-control measures, including on magazine ammunition limits and expanded background checks.
 
The chamber was debating five of seven bills in the Democrats' gun-control package. Other measures included a gun ban for people accused of domestic violence crimes and a ban on online-only gun training for a concealed carry permit. The final measure would revive background check fees for gun purchasers.
 
Republican Senate Leader Bill Cadman said the Democrats have an "anti-gun agenda" and that the measures they sponsored wouldn't make Colorado safer. Speaking against the domestic-violence bill, Cadman said Democrats believe "guns are the problem in society and not the people that use those guns."
 
The gun measures were given initial approval Friday after more than 12 hours of debate.
 
Two parts of the Democratic gun package were pulled because of lack of support. Those were a liability measure for gun owners and a concealed-weapons ban on college campuses.
 
Even without the two most divisive Democratic proposals, the gun-control package attracted plenty of opposition. Gun-right supporters were especially steamed about the magazine ammunition limit, which has prompted at least one company to threaten to leave Colorado. Magpul, an accessories maker in Erie, has said it will ship hundreds of jobs out of state, even though the ammunition bill was amended to allow Magpul to keep making the magazines for out-of-state sale.
 
Republicans have complained that Democrats are wrong to limit ammunition magazines over Magpul's threats.
 
"Jobs, jobs, jobs — all leaving Colorado," Republican Sen. Scott Renfroe said last week.
 
Republicans are also deeply opposed to the bill to expand required background checks to private sales. Democrats changed that bill to exempt short-term loans among relatives. But Republicans insist that any move toward universal background checks is a move toward gun ownership registration.

http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-senate-final-ok-gun-185606090.html
3/11/13
Colorado Senate give final OK to gun control bills

Colorado Senate gives final OK to gun bills, including magazine limits and background checks

DENVER (AP) -- The Colorado Senate is approving stricter firearms regulations including expanded background checks, as it ties gun control to mass shootings in the state and elsewhere.

Final votes on the proposals Monday cap a week of intense debate in Colorado's Capitol over gun violence and how to prevent it.

Democrats have abandoned two of their seven gun-control proposals because of strong opposition. But five measures were due final Senate approval Monday.

Most of them now head to the House or return there because of Senate amendments.
 
The most divisive measure given a final vote Monday was a bill to require background checks on private gun sales. Republicans tried to argue expanded background checks are "absurd" and won't improve safety. But they managed to persuade only one Democrat to vote against the bill.
 

California Seizes Guns as Owners Lose Right to Bear Arms
3/11/13

Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.

They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.

California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic violence restraining order or deemed mental unstable.

“What do we do about the guns that are already in the hands of persons who, by law, are considered too dangerous to possess them?” Harris said in a letter to Vice President Joe Biden after a Connecticut school shooting in December left 26 dead. She recommended that Biden, heading a White House review of gun policy, consider California as a national model.

As many as 200,000 people nationwide may no longer be qualified to own firearms, according to Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis. Other states may lack confiscation programs because they don’t track purchases as closely as California, which requires most weapons sales go through a licensed dealer and be reported.

“Very, very few states have an archive of firearm owners like we have,” said Wintemute, who helped set up the program.

Funding Increase

Harris, a 48-year-old Democrat, has asked California lawmakers to more than the number of agents from the current 33 who seized about 2,000 weapons last year, along with 117,000 rounds of ammunition and 11,000 high-capacity magazines, according to state data.

“We’re not contacting anybody who can legally own a gun,” said John Marsh, a supervising agent who coordinates the sometimes-contentious seizures. “I got called the Antichrist the other day. Every conspiracy theory you’ve heard of, take that times 10.”

The no-gun list is compiled by cross-referencing files on almost 1 million handgun and assault-weapon owners with databases of new criminal records and involuntary mental-health commitments. About 15 to 20 names are added each day, according to the attorney general’s office.

Probable Cause

Merely being in a database of registered gun owners and having a “disqualifying event,” such as a felony conviction or restraining order, isn’t sufficient evidence for a search warrant, Marsh said March 5 during raids in San Bernardino County. So the agents often must talk their way into a residence to look for weapons, he said.

At a house in Fontana, agents were looking for a gun owner with a criminal history of a sex offense, pimping, according to the attorney general’s office. Marsh said that while the woman appeared to be home, they got no answer at the door. Without a warrant, the agents couldn’t enter and had to leave empty- handed.

They had better luck in nearby Upland, where they seized three guns from the home of Lynette Phillips, 48, who’d been hospitalized for mental illness, and her husband, David. One gun was registered to her, two to him.

“The prohibited person can’t have access to a firearm,” regardless of who the registered owner is, said Michelle Gregory, a spokeswoman for the attorney general’s office.

Involuntarily Held

In an interview as agents inventoried the guns, Lynette Phillips said that while she’d been held involuntarily in a mental hospital in December, the nurse who admitted her had exaggerated the magnitude of her condition.

Todd Smith, chief executive officer of Aurora Charter Oak Hospital in Covina, where documents provided by Phillips show she was treated, didn’t respond to telephone and e-mail requests for comment on the circumstances of the treatment.

Phillips said her husband used the guns for recreation. She didn’t blame the attorney general’s agents for taking the guns based on the information they had, she said.

“I do feel I have every right to purchase a gun,” Phillips said. “I’m not a threat. We’re law-abiding citizens.”

No one was arrested.

“It’s not unusual to not arrest a mental-health person because every county in the state handles those particular cases differently,” Gregory said by e-mail. “Unless there’s an extenuating need to arrest them on the spot, we refer the case” to the local district attorney’s office, she said.

Convicted Felons

Agents more often arrest convicted felons who are prohibited from buying, receiving, owning or possessing a firearm, Gregory said. Violation of the ban is itself a felony.

The state Senate agreed March 7 to expand the seizure program using $24 million in surplus funds from fees that gun dealers charge buyers for background checks.

Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association, a gun lobby that says it has more than 4 million individuals as members, didn’t respond to a request for comment on the program.

Sam Paredes, executive director of the Folsom-based advocacy group Gun Owners of California, praised the program, though not how it is funded.

“We think that crime control instead of gun control is absolutely the way to go,” he said. “The issue we have is funding this program only from resources from law-abiding gun purchasers. This program has a benefit to the entire public and therefore the entire public should be paying through general- fund expenditures, and not just legal gun owners.”

And that is apparently the hole in their little scam. Why can't they get a warrant if the gun owner is not legally allowed to posses a firearm? Hmm, sounds like they are playing legal games with gun owners. There's a legal hold up for police somehow, requiring them to get a warrant, or ask to search for weapons in a home, which home owners should not consent to a search without a lawyer advising.

Got to watch police. They will try to snake their way in your car, house, whatever, without a warrant by asking to search. Don't agree, ever. Make them get a warrant if in fact they have serious cause. Make them do their jobs!

Example: We had a deal where my wife received as it were a prank phishing phone call, threatening her, etc, so she called the police to report it because the called was making all kinds of threats to come by the house, cause our family problems, etc. A real thug caller. So the cop shows up, and we meet him outside. We talk for a bit, then he asks if we want to go inside to get out of the heat, to which I said, "No, we're fine", while he's standing there in a black uniform wearing a vest and the rest of the hardware they carry. I suspect he was rather warm! But there was no reason for him to come inside. It took maybe 10 minutes.

But that's how they do it, by putting people in a spot where they think they must say yes, but they don't and shouldn't, especially if it has nothing to do with the inside of your home. Otherwise, he gets inside your house, and he decides he sees something illegal, and bingo, you got major issues you wouldn't have had had he not got inside your house, or car, etc.

As for California and their antics? Typical. People need to leave that state to it's politicians and the freaks in Hollywood.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/12/17286635-sources-nra-wont-oppose-background-check-deal-if-democrats-cede-tough-records-fight?lite
3/12/13
Sources: NRA won't oppose background check deal – if Democrats cede tough records fight

Senators negotiating a bill mandating background checks for all gun buyers are privately expecting the National Rifle Association not to fight the measure -- provided the legislation does not require private gun sellers to maintain records of the checks, NBC News has learned.

If that requirement is met and key Republican negotiator Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma signs on, the powerful gun lobby has signaled to lawmakers that they would not actively oppose the bill -- and not count votes in favor of it as part of its highly influential NRA lawmaker ratings -- according to Senate aides familiar with the stalled negotiations.

Such a deal could clear the way for a universal background check bill, a central tenet of President Barack Obama's gun control initiative, to pass the Senate with significant Republican support. Odds of passage in the House would brighten significantly as a result.
 
The NRA denies being part of any agreement. "We do not take positions on hypotheticals. We will make our position known if and when legislation is introduced," said Chris Cox, the group's top lobbyist.

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Seriously, what is the point of doing something like this? Will these "cross country" activities like what Susan G. Komen does just "magically" make something good? And doesn't this feel like witchcraft?

http://news.yahoo.com/cyclists-ride-nations-capital-gun-control-sandy-hook-233406239--abc-news-politics.html
3/12/13
Cyclists Ride to Nation's Capital for Gun Control After Sandy Hook

The sun came out over the West Lawn of the Capitol building Monday afternoon, warming up a group of shivering cyclists who rode over 400 miles to convince Congress to pass what they called "common sense" gun control legislation.
 
The cyclists, known as Team 26, began riding on Saturday from Newtown, Conn., the site of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December. The team was made up of Connecticut residents, including a Newtown police officer and a Vietnam war veteran.
 
Team 26 founder Monte Frank told ABC News that the group got a big lift Tuesday when the Senate Judiciary Committee announced the passage of a bill that would require universal background checks for gun buyers. But he said there were two more needs to be done, including bans on military assault-style weapons and high capacity magazines.
 
"We have been motivated all along by 26 angels who've been pushing us along," said Frank, joined Tuesday by his young daughter, Sarah, whose third grade teacher was killed in the Sandy Hook shooting. "If those bills are enacted, they will go a long way toward removing dangerous military style weapons from our streets and ensuring that the weapons in people's possessions are in the right people's possession.

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California seizes guns from owners - and it might become a national model

In California, the government is already coming for the guns.

Notwithstanding the Second Amendment, rules and regulations across the United States outline certain restrictions for who can legally possess a firearm. In the state of California, factors such as a felony conviction or a history of mental health issues mean roughly 20,000 gun owners are holding onto their firearms illegally. Slowly but surely, though, Golden State police officers are prying them away. There’s more, though: backers of the program suggest this becomes a nation-wide practice, and are asking the White House to help make it happen.

“Very, very few states have an archive of firearm owners like we have,” Garen Wintemute of the Violence Prevention Research Program tells Bloomberg News. Wintemute helped set up a program on the West Coast that monitors not just licensed gun owners but also watches for any red flags that could be raised after admittance to a mental health institute or a quick stint in the slammer.

Wintemute says that as many as 200,000 people across the United States may no longer be qualified to own firearms, and in California they are making sure that number drops day by day. In one example cited in this week’s Bloomberg report, journalists recall a recent scene where nine California Justice Department agents equipped with 40-caliber Glock pistols and outfitted in bulletproof vests knocked on a suburban residence, requested to speak to a certain gun owner and then walked away with whatever arsenal they could apprehend.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris seized roughly 2,000 weapons last year, reports Bloomberg, as well as 117,000 rounds of ammunition and 11,000 high-capacity magazines. But as concerns escalate about a possible war against the right to bear arms in America, will other states soon follow suite?

In California, some shortcuts are already meaning weapons are being removed from lawful owners. Bloomberg reports cite the example of 48-year-old Lynette Phillips, a California woman who was recently hospitalized for mental illness. When a team of agents went to collect her two registered firearms, they also walked out with one registered to her husband.

“The prohibited person can’t have access to a firearm,” regardless of who the registered owner is, said Michelle Gregory, a spokeswoman for the attorney general’s office.

In other cities and towns across the country, Americans are standing up against what many say are unconstitutional attempts to disarm the United States. In New York State, new legislation is making it harder for Americans to purchase firearms, and one provision will provide gun owners with a felony charge if they ignore new registration rules — which is enough on its own to make owning guns illegal. Across the board more states are demanding stricter background checks, but as efforts to remove weapons from the hands of Americans — voluntarily and involuntarily — are ramped up, though, those that disagree are doing what they can to keep their country armed.

In the wake of last year’s massacres in Aurora, Colorado and Newtown, Connecticut — among others — lawmakers and the public at large have called on Americans for a mass disarming. Gun buyback programs are being touted in countless cities, and in California the attorney general is hoping for even more help at getting guns away from their once-lawful owners — Attorney General Harris has asked Vice President Joe Biden for help and has asked state lawmakers to increase the number of agents tasked with collecting weapons up to 33. She also told Mr. Biden that she thought the efforts coming out of California could be a good model of a national program, reports Bloomberg.

Meanwhile, though, others are making sure weapons aren’t being put to waste. Residents in Maine hit the polls this week to vote on a law that would require everyone in the town of Byron to register a high-powered weapon.

"It was never my intention to force anyone to own a gun who doesn't want to. My purpose was to make a statement in support of the Second Amendment,” Head Selectman Anne Simmons-Edmund tells US News & World Report.

"I'm just here because I'd rather see weapons stay with people, rather than turned in to be melted," a man named Joe, who declined to provide his last name, tells the Bainbridge Island Review. "I'm here to exercise the Second Amendment," he added. "Even if I don't get anything, honestly, I'd just rather see people keep them."

http://rt.com/usa/california-gun-program-model-157/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-13/california-to-audit-owners-losing-right-to-bear-arms.html?cmpid=yhoo
3/13/13
California to Audit Owners Losing Right to Bear Arms

California will audit its program that confiscates guns for residents who are prohibited from possessing them, to insure those who are disqualified are reported promptly.

Lawmakers on the Joint Legislative Audit Committee approved a request for the review. Republicans sought the inquiry, citing a 2010 study of states other than California by the National Center for State Courts that found fewer than half of those who should have been reported to local police for background checks were processed.

California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic-violence restraining order or deemed mentally unstable.

“Keeping guns out of the hands of felons and other individuals who have been deemed ineligible to possess firearms is vital,” Assemblyman Katcho Achadjian, a Republican from San Luis Obispo, said yesterday.

Since California was not one of the states in the 2010 study, Achadjian said a thorough review is needed to determine if state and local officials were reporting and processing the necessary information.

The Dec. 14 killings of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, the second deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, reignited a national debate over gun-control laws, stricter bans on assault weapons and better screening and care for the mentally ill.

California’s no-gun list is compiled by cross-referencing files on almost 1 million handgun and assault-weapon owners in the state with databases of new criminal records and involuntary mental-health commitments. About 15 to 20 names are added to the list each day, according to the attorney general’s office.

These individuals are supposed to be immediately reported to the state Justice Department. Local police can check the list when conducting background checks for gun purchases. Someone who is on the prohibited persons list would not be allowed to legally purchase a firearm.

Something like that isn't possible in Arizona. Not unless they overturn some laws here. As it is, residents can legally purchase a weapon with no checks, licenses, etc. No requirement to register either unless you buy from a federally licensed gun dealer, and we also have open or concealed carry with no permit required.

Arizona is about as close to the Constitution as it can get when it comes to gun laws.

And why are people still living in California? ::)

Senate Judiciary Committee approves assault weapons ban in a party -line vote, 10-8 - @AP


an assault weapons ban in a party -line vote that underscores how hard it will be for the measure to survive in the full Senate.

The proposal by California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein was approved on a 10-8 vote Thursday by the Democratic-controlled committee.

An assault rifle was used by the man who killed 26 elementary school students and staff in Newtown, Conn., in December. Banning the weapons is key to President Barack Obama's plan to curb gun violence.

The measure is not expected to survive in the Senate. Feinstein faces overwhelming GOP opposition and likely defections by up to six moderate Democrats facing re-election next year in Republican-leaning states in the South and West.

rest: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/senate-committee-ready-ok-assault-weapons-ban

http://www.infowars.com/democrats-republicans-and-nra-work-together-on-gun-confiscation/
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
March 12, 2013

Dianne Feinstein’s assault weapon ban now appears to be a little more than decoy sent out to be shot down while the real work on gun control legislation is hammered out by Democrats, Republicans and the NRA behind closed doors.

According to sources cited by Ammoland.com, the “NRA is cutting back room deals to centralize gun owner data collection into the Obama/Holder massive government data base.” Republicans are working with Democrats to pass legislation that will require records be kept on all gun sales and also move to streamline and improve the database.
 
“Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor is leading the charge to give Obama and Holder what they want in exchange for appearing to be ‘fixing’ the problem of innocent children being butchered in our public and private schools,” the website reports.
 
The collusion reaches all the way to the top of the Republican party. “Newly appointed Republican Judiciary Chairman, Bob Goodlatte R-VA 6th District, is providing political cover for the sneaky back room gun control deals and gun grabbing sell outs that his political masters - – John Boehner and Eric Cantor – are cutting [deals] with Obama and his corrupt Attorney General, Eric Holder.”
 
Goodlette is also colluding with Virginia Republican Congressman Scott Rigell on his House version of Vermont Senator Pat Leahy’s S. 443, titled “The Forced Gun Owner Registration Act” by Ammoland.com.
 
If Leahey’s bill is enacted, Republicans and the NRA will claim they saved the Second Amendment by preventing Feinstein’s gun-grabbing bill from clearing the Senate.
 
At the same time, the establishment media has rolled out a number of public survey polls claiming Americans overwhelmingly approve of registering nearly all firearms under a universal background check scheme.
 
Bipartisan negotiations hit a snag in the Senate due to demands by Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn, who opposes record keeping aspects of the Democrat assault on the Second Amendment.
 
“Coburn got hung up on record keeping. Under the bill, all guns sold at gun shows would require a background check, and the seller would keep a record of the sale — just as federally-licensed retailers do now,” the Chicago Tribune reported on Sunday.
 
The newspaper said if Coburn’s version of the legislation is enacted, private sales between individuals “would not be turned over to the government. It would not become part of a national database. It would not lead to mass gun confiscation.”
 
On Tuesday, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved Sen. Chuck Schumer’s “ideal approach” proposal to broaden background check requirements for all gun sales in the United States, including measures Coburn opposed. The vote went straight down partisan lines, as expected.
 
Passing the measure out of the committee indicates a potential compromise between Democrats and Republicans and signals that the bill stands a good chance of getting the 60 votes required to pass in the Senate.
 
Last week bipartisan negotiations fizzled as Coburn stuck to his guns on record keeping and the prospect of a massive expansion of a database that will ultimately be used by the Justice Department when the government decides to conduct a national confiscation of firearms similar to past confiscations in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Britain.
 
Democrats will now try to marginalize Coburn and find a Republican “partner” to collude with them against the Second Amendment.

Yeah, the "establishment media" tends to dump false polls on the public claiming it's what the public wants.

Poll results or not, government is going to give the public what Washington wants, regardless of what the public wants.

http://news.yahoo.com/hampshire-lawmakers-reject-bill-allow-guns-schools-193016922.html
3/14/13
New Hampshire lawmakers reject bill to allow guns in schools

CONCORD, New Hampshire (Reuters) - A bill that would have required New Hampshire school districts to vote on whether to allow teachers and other employees to carry concealed firearms on school property was defeated in a rare setback for the gun lobby in the New England state.
 
Under the proposed law, individual districts would have been required to decide whether to allow school employees who are licensed to carry a concealed weapon to do so on campus.
 
The bill had been submitted in January, weeks after a gunman armed with a semi-automatic assault rifle attacked a grammar school in Newtown, Connecticut, a brazen assault that left 26 people dead, including 20 children ages 6 and 7.
 
In the wake of that incident, the head of the National Rifle Association lobby proposed putting armed guards in schools who would have the ability to fight off future attackers.

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Well, of all of the hot button agendas out there(illegal immigration reform, gay marriage, etc) - it seems like the 2nd ammendment rights is the only one that's standing pretty firm. Yes, there's a few cracks in it, and yes a growing number of 501c3 churches across America have participated in gun buy-back programs, and yes even various corporations like Wal-Mart have worked arm-arm recently with the anti-gun rights lobby, etc, etc, but nonetheless I am surprised by how firm gun rights groups(except for the NRA) as a whole have stood firm(and for that matter too, gun sales have been through the roof) without getting themselves into this nonsense "war of words" dogfights with the anti-gun lobby groups.

Eventually and unfortunately, even the gun rights lobby will eventually cave(as we saw recently with the pro-family groups doing so with gay marriage recently).

Mat 24:12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

http://news.yahoo.com/colo-legislature-oks-expansion-firearms-checks-215433054.html
3/15/13
Colo Legislature OKs expansion of firearms checks

DENVER (AP) — A landmark expansion of background checks on firearm purchases was approved Friday by lawmakers in Colorado, a politically moderate state that was the site of last year's gruesome mass shooting at a suburban Denver movie theater.
 
The bill previously passed the state Senate and now heads to Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper, who is expected to sign it into law within two weeks.
 
Earlier this week, Colorado lawmakers approved a 15-round limit on ammunition magazines. It is also awaiting the expected approval of the governor.
 
The bill passed Friday expands cases when a $10 criminal background check would be required to legally transfer a gun. Republicans have opposed the bill, calling it an undue burden on law-abiding gun owners.
 
"We know for a fact that whatever law we pass criminals won't care," said Republican Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg.
 
Colorado is the first state outside the East Coast to significantly ratchet back gun rights after the theater and school shootings. Colorado's gun debate was being watched closely because it's considered a swing state with both a gun-loving frontier past and an unfortunate history of mass shootings, including the 1999 Columbine High School attack.
 
"Are going to stop all criminals from getting guns? No," said Democratic Rep. Beth McCann, a sponsor of the background checks bill. "But are we are going to put a barrier there, make it more difficult for them? Yes."
 
The move to expand background checks would be one of the most sweeping responses by Colorado to the shootings last year in Aurora, Colo., and the elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
 
Expanded checks have been a top priority for Hickenlooper, who called for the proposal during his State of the State address in January.
 
Both chambers previously approved the expanded checks in slightly different forms. However, both had to agree on an identical bill before passing it to the governor, so a second round of voting was required.
 
Democrats seemed relieved that Colorado's protracted gun-control debate was nearing an end.
 
The GOP unsuccessfully tried some last-minute legislative maneuvers on Friday to sink the background-check measure before it was passed 19-14 by the Senate.
 
"It won't help anything, but it makes common everyday actions among friends and neighbors something that's now illegal in the state of Colorado," argued Republican Sen. Greg Brophy, one of the GOP's lead Senate gun negotiators.
 
Brophy tried to keep background-check talks alive by rejecting a preliminary agreement by the House and Senate to clarify the bill so gun owners can lend firearms to immediate family members without a background check.
 
Democrats grew frustrated at GOP attempts to imagine scenarios that would trigger background-check. From 4-H members learning gun safety but needing to borrow a shotgun, to neighbors on weeklong elk-hunting trips, Republicans argued the bill would ensnare harmless gun users.
 
Democrats insisted that existing exemptions in the bill would cover most scenarios the GOP imagined. The bill's sponsor, Senate Democratic Leader Morgan Carroll, told Republicans that Democrats had enough votes to pass the measure but extended debate to make small changes requested by Republicans.
 
"There were many, many changes made to this bill, made in good faith," Carroll said.
 
However, Republicans wanted so many exceptions that "we might as well repeal all background checks," she said.