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Here is another one, and this is on a totally BOGUS web site that is supposed to be about business? WHY would you have an article about how a feathered dino used its feathers on a business site? What does one have to do with the other? The site is 100% fake, and Google is using it to push this agenda. This is the stuff im talking about, this whole site and story is set to just reiterate the idea of evolution.

Feathered dinosaur used displays to attract mates
Posted January 6, 2013 - 06:30 by Flora Malein

Some feathered dinosaurs may have used their tail feathers in a similar way to today’s turkeys and peacocks, in displays to attract a mate.

INSERTED 100% FAKE ARTIST RENDITION PIC, USED ONLY TO SUPPORT THE LIE

Scientists at the University of Alberta believe they have found the first evidence that the ‘Similicaudiptery’, a bird-like dinosaur or oviraptor would have had feathers located on its tail. While no feathers have ever been preserved directly in this type of fossil, their tails have the same type of structure found in related feathered dinosaurs.

Rather than using these feathers to fly, paleontologists believe that the feathers would have been used to create a feather display, very similar to today’s peacocks, during mating rituals with the opposite sex.

"The structure is called a pygostyle," says paleontologist Scott Persons, lead author of the study published in the journal Acta Palaeontologica Polonica.

"Among modern animals only birds have them."

The pygostyle is made up of short vertebrae, indicating that it would have been highly flexible. Persons reconstructed the muscles in the tail to reveal that the Similicaudiptery would have been able to really shake its tail feathers, indicating that they were used in mating rituals.

"A terminal tail-feather fan appears to have been a common feature among oviraptorosaurs, and the muscular and flexible tails would have permitted these fans to be flaunted in dynamic displays," write the authors.

Oviraptors were two-legged plant-eating dinosaurs that roamed parts of China, Mongolia, and Alberta during the Cretaceous period, between 145 and 66 million years ago.

"By this time a variety of dinosaurs used feathers for flight and insulation from the cold," says Persons.

"This shows that by the Late Cretaceous dinosaurs were doing everything with feathers that modern birds do now."

http://www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/68521-feathered-dinosaur-used-displays-to-attract-mates

You cannot draw any of these conclussions what so ever from some bones found in the ground. All they can tell you is that the creature DIED. That is it, nothing else.

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"This shows that by the Late Cretaceous dinosaurs were doing everything with feathers that modern birds do now."

??? ::) :D

Ancient 'Methuselah star' Just Got Younger, Hubble Helps Astronomers Correct Age

not even gonna comment, as i really cant believe they said it, let alone published it..

Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope recently found that a star appeared to be older than the Universe, according to NASA. Researchers say that some factors that weren't considered earlier could decrease the estimated age of the star.

"We have found that this is the oldest known star with a well-determined age," said Howard Bond of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, Pa., and the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, Md, in a news release from NASA.

Previous study on the star, back in 2000, had estimated the star's age to be around 16 billion years.

The age of the "Methuselah star", cataloged as HD 140283, is expected be around 14.5 billion years, give or take 800 million years. However, what is surprising is that most astronomers accept that the Universe is about 13.8 billion years old.

"Maybe the cosmology is wrong, stellar physics is wrong, or the star's distance is wrong. So we set out to refine the distance," Bond said.

According to NASA, the star may have formed during the early years of the Universe, when the Universe had many heavy elements. The star is currently at the first stage of expanding into a red giant. Researchers calculate the distance to the star as 190.1 light-years and the star is currently zooming past the solar system at the speed of 800,000 miles per hour.

The distance to the star was measured by Bond and colleagues using trigonometric parallax, in which distance between stars is measured by observing apparent shift of the star relative to an observer.

Another indicator that may lower the star's age further is the oxygen-to-iron ratio that's greater than predictor. This ratio reduces as a star ages. According to Bond, measuring the oxygen level in the star will lead to a better understanding of the star's age. The star probably came into existence when the Universe was abundant in oxygen, making the star younger than estimated.

"Put all of those ingredients together and you get an age of 14.5 billion years, with a residual uncertainty that makes the star's age compatible with the age of the universe. This is the best star in the sky to do precision age calculations by virtue of its closeness and brightness," said Bond.

The study is published in the journal called Astrophysical Journal Letters.

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/783/20130309/ancient-methuselah-star-younger-hubble-helps-astronomers-correct-age.htm

Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in Fireball Fragments

Algae-like structures inside a Sri Lankan meteorite are clear evidence of panspermia, the idea that life exists throughout the universe, say astrobiologists.

On 29 December 2012, a fireball lit up the early evening skies over the Sri Lankan province of Polonnaruwa. Hot, sparkling fragments of the fireball rained down across the countryside and witnesses reported the strong odour of tar or asphalt.

Over the next few days, the local police gathered numerous examples of these stones and sent them to the Sri Lankan Medical Research Institute of the Ministry of Health in Colombo. After noticing curious features inside these stones, officials forwarded the samples to a team of astrobiologists at Cardiff University in the UK for further analysis.

So some cops, went out and picked up rocks and were paid for it. No proof at all if these were even the meteorite, lol

The results of these tests, which the Cardiff team reveal today, are extraordinary. They say the stones contain fossilised biological structures fused into the rock matrix and that their tests clearly rule out the possibility of terrestrial contamination.

How can they,"rule out the possibility of terrestrial contamination" when you have no proof these are in fact the actual fireball? Remeber Sri Lankin cops went out to fields and picked up rocks.

In total, Jamie Wallis at Cardiff University and a few buddies received 628 stone fragments collected from rice fields in the region. However, they were able to clearly identify only three as possible meteorites.

WOW, they got 628 rocks, and they think that 3 just 3 might possibly be a meteorite. ok, how long has that been sitting there? woops

The general properties of these three stones immediately mark them out as unusual. One stone, for example, had a density of less than 1 gram per cubic centimetre, less than all known carbonaceous meteorites. It had a partially fused crust, good evidence of atmospheric heating, a carbon content of up to 4 per cent and contained an abundance of organic compounds with a high molecular weight, which is not unknown in meteorites. On this evidence, Wallis and co think the fireball was probably a small comet.

seriously? there is no evidence what so ever that the stone in question is from the fireball the story is about!!! They just made that up.

The most startling claims, however, are based on electron microscope images of structures within the stones (see above). Wallis and co. say that one image shows a complex, thick-walled, carbon-rich microfossil about 100 micrometres across that bares similarities with a group of largely extinct marine dinoflagellate algae.

They say another image shows well-preserved flagella that are 2 micrometres in diameter and 100 micrometres long. By terrestrial standards, that’s extremely long and thin, which Wallis and co. interpret as evidence of formation in a low-gravity, low-pressure environment.

Wallis and co. also measured the abundance of various elements in the samples to determine their origin. They say that low levels of nitrogen in particular rule out the possibility of contamination by modern organisms which would have a much higher nitrogen content. The fact that these samples are also buried within the rock matrix is further evidence, they say.

Wallis and co. are convinced that the lines of evidence they have gathered are powerful and persuasive. “This provides clear and convincing evidence that these obviously ancient remains of extinct marine algae found embedded in the Polonnaruwa meteorite are indigenous to the stones and not the result of post-arrival microbial contaminants,” they conclude.

theres actually no evidence to that at all. For starters you cant prove that any of those 628 rocks were actually ever in space or from anywhere else. You cant prove how old any o fthe rocks are, and quite frankly, all you have is an image that you think is algae that could very well have formed on Earth. Again, they just made this stuff up. There is no real science here.

There’s no question that a claim of this kind is likely to generate controversy.
well duh, but that isnt the purpose of the story. The story is to put in mens minds that idea, that life could come from space.

Critics have already pointed out that the stones could have been formed by lightning strikes on Earth although Wallis and co. counter by saying there was no evidence of lightning at the time of the fireball and that in any case, the stones do not bear the usual characteristics of this kind of strike. What’s more, the temperatures generated by lightning would have destroyed any biological content.

There is no evidence what so ever these stones were from the fireball. In fact the heat generated from a rock coming into the atmpsophere dwarfs that of a lighting strike. So they kind of really just shot themselves in the foot with that one.

Nevertheless, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and Wallis and co. will need to make their samples and evidence available to the scientific community for further study before the claims will be taken seriously.

uhm why? there is no proof what so ever that any of those rocks were from the said fireball, none what so ever.

If the paper is taken at face value, one obvious question that arises is where these samples came from. Wallis and c.o have their own ideas: “The presence of fossilized biological structures provides compelling evidence in support of the theory of cometary panspermia first proposed over thirty years ago,” they say.

This is an idea put forward by Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe, the latter being a member of the team who has carried out this analysis.

There are other explanations, of course. One is that the fireball was of terrestrial origin, a remnant of one of the many asteroid impacts in Earth’s history that that have ejected billions of tonnes of rock and water into space, presumably with biological material inside. Another is that the structures are not biological and have a different explanation.

Either way, considerably more work will have to be done before the claims from this team can be broadly accepted. Exciting times ahead!

Exciting times ahead! yes there are, and this helps lays the ground work for what is to come...

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/512381/astrobiologists-find-ancient-fossils-in-fireball-fragments/

MISSING LINK between HUMANS and MONKEYS FOUND

That is a bold statement that has been proven fraudulent every time in the past, but then again, its all capitalized and loud so it gets your attention.

Scientists claim to have identified the missing link between human speech and monkey chatter.

OHH.. so its not the real missing link, just the one between speech... ::)

Researchers analysed the distinctive "lip-smacking" sounds made by wild gelada baboons of the Ethopian highlands and found striking similarities to human speech.

Your kidding right? lip smacking sounds like human speech. So in fact they arent talking to each other, just smacking there lips, hmmmm

Their noises are so human-like that Thore Bergman, an assistant professor with the University of Michigan, thought he heard people talking while he was hanging out with the creatures.

really? this guy knows that these animals are just smacking their lips together, and he thinks they are talking most likley ENGLISH to him. LOL

"I would find myself frequently looking over my shoulder to see who was talking to me, but it was just the geladas," he said. "It was unnerving to have primate vocalizations sound so much like human voices."

Really? ever hang out around Parrots?

Male geladas smack their lips to produce a distincive "wobble" in their calls to females. These sounds follow a similar tempo to human speech.

OH... so this has been known, for oh probably forever, so why make a big story about it now? ??

Bergman suggested the research identified a "plausible" explanation of how human speech evolved.

He said: “The ability to produce complex sounds might have come first. Then, when we could do that, we could attach meanings and communicate in more sophisticated ways. Or it could be that, as we needed to communicate more, we developed an ability to produce a greater variety of sounds.”

In other words, let me just make some stuff up that sounds good and we can hype a story to push an agenda. And if the ability to create more complex sounds is what is needed for speech, than why isnt the LYRE BIRD talking to us? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwiFMKPHmY

Other monkeys smack their lips while eating, but geladas are the only species which do so when communicating. It is believed monkeys living in large groups have stronger vocal skills.

Its believed?? So you dont know, that isnt SCIENCE, that is make believe.

“It’s a very complex social system. They have some of the largest groups of any primate,” Bergman said. “These very large group structures may be linked to vocal complexity. There’s some evidence across primate that bigger groups make more sounds.”

Again, Lyre birds are in large groups. This whole story has no basis in real SCIENCE, its just speculation on what someone perceives that a sound sounds like.

The research can be found in the journal Current Biology. ®

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/09/talking_monkeys/

Brazilian 'Atlantis' Continent Chunk Discovered by Scientists: Original Pangea [VIDEO]

A big chunk of granite has been discovered by scientists off of the coast of Rio de Janeiro that suggests a continent existed in the Atlantic Ocean—but could it really have anything to do with the fabled Atlantis?

Geologists took samples from the seabed near the Rio Grande Elevation, which is a long seismic mountainous ridge that runs along the Atlantic Ocean, and found evidence that suggests a continent sunk 8,000 feet in the sea when Africa and South America separated around 100 million years ago. Dubbed the 'Brazilian Atlantis' by the researchers, the rocks may be part of the original Pangea continent.

"This could be Brazil's Atlantis," Dr. Roberto Ventura, the director of geology and mineral resources at the Brazilian Geological Survey said. "We are almost certain, but we need to strengthen this hypothesis."

Finding the granite was a complete surprise to the team of Brazilian and Japanese researchers, as the rock is formed on land.
"When these samples came aboard the ship, the first surprise was, 'what are these rocks doing here?'" said Ventura. "We did petrographic, geochemical" (and) geological studies of this material."

The famous Greek philosopher Plato wrote of Atlantis around 360 B.C., but most of the legend of Atlantis is built on stories, rather than evidence. The ancient city was apparently consumed by the sea some 12,000 years ago—taking with it the highly developed civilization that inhabited the city. Though no man-made structures were discovered, the find is more than the team could have expected.

"Obviously, we don't expect to find a lost city in the middle of the Atlantic," said Santos. "But if it is the case that we find a continent in the middle of the ocean, it will be a very big discovery that could have various implications in relation to the extension of the continental shelf."

Ventura added that the chunk of the alleged continent "could revolutionize our understanding of the formation and evolution of the Earth's crust."

vid at site: http://www.designntrend.com/articles/4241/20130508/brazilian-atlantis-continent-discovered-scientists-pangea.htm

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"We did petrographic, geochemical (and) geological studies of this material."

petrographic lol, we looked at the rock, :D it was a rock
geochemical its made of wll... rock
(and) geological studies of this material." This is babble talk for we just make stuff up that we cannot prove.

Atlantis was Crete, everything fits. Even the destruction. Oh and Crete was west of the Pillars of Hercules lol, History is so cool when properly applied.

Never-Before-Seen Alien Planet Imaged Directly in New Photo

(http://www.space.com/21395-alien-planet-direct-image.html)

A newly discovered gaseous planet has been directly photographed orbiting a star about 300 light-years from Earth. Imaging alien planets is difficult, and this world may be the least massive planet directly observed outside of the solar system, scientists say.

A sharp new photo released by the European Southern Observatory (ESO) today (June 3) depicts the suspected gas giant (called HD 95086 b) circling its young star (named HD 95086) in infrared light. The star has been removed from the image to allow the planet — shown as a bright blue dot at the bottom left of the picture — to shine through.

HD 95086 b was sighted by ESO's Very Large Telescope in Chile. Based on the planet's brightness, scientists estimate that it is only about four or five times more massive than Jupiter.

Most exoplanets are discovered via indirect means, such as detecting a dip in a star's light when a planet passes in front of it, blocking part of its face, or finding a slight wobble in a star's movement caused by the gravitational tug of planets orbiting it.

"Direct imaging of planets is an extremely challenging technique that requires the most advanced instruments, whether ground-based or in space," Julien Rameau, an astronomer at the Institute of Astrophysics and Planetology in France and lead author of the study announcing the discovery, said in a statement. "Only a few planets have been directly observed so far, making every single discovery an important milestone on the road to understanding giant planets and how they form."

Another photo from ESO shows the star and its planet in context with other stars in the southern constellation of Carina, the keel.

The planet orbits its star at about twice the distance from the sun to Neptune and about 56 times the distance between Earth and the sun. The blue circle in the photo represents the distance between the sun and Neptune.

HD 95086 is relatively young star at only 10 million to 17 million years old, making the formation of the exoplanet and the dusty disc surrounding the star potentially intriguing to researchers.

"[The planet's] current location raises questions about its formation process," Anne-Marie Lagrange, one of Rameau's team members, said in a statement. "It either grew by assembling the rocks that form the solid core and then slowly accumulated gas from the environment to form the heavy atmosphere, or started forming from a gaseous clump that arose from gravitational instabilities in the disc. Interactions between the planet and the disc itself or with other planets may have also moved the planet from where it was born."

The research will be published in an upcoming issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters.

http://www.space.com/21395-alien-planet-direct-image.html

:D

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Imaging alien planets is difficult

so difficult it cant be done. We cant get a descent pic of Pluto but hey we have this planet 300 light years away...

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Most exoplanets are discovered via indirect means, such as detecting a dip in a star's light when a planet passes in front of it, blocking part of its face, or finding a slight wobble in a star's movement caused by the gravitational tug of planets orbiting it.

By those standards, i could find a planet around every single star in the Universe.

Stalagmites Give Scientists A 100,000 Year History Of Rain Patterns In The Tropical Pacific

A study of stalagmites showed the Western Tropical Pacific was affected differently by climate change than the rest of the world, according to Georgia Tech.

By studying stalagmites in tropical Borneo, researchers at the University were able to see back 100,000 years and create a climate record. The findings may be able to allow scientists to see into the future as well, and predict how the Earth may respond to climate change.

blah, blah blah...

In order to perform the study, the team measured the ratio of oxygen isotopes in the calcium carbonate that makes up the stalagmites. This can give insight into the ratio of oxygen isotopes in the rainfall that formed the stalagmites, which formed at a rate of about one centimeter every 1,000 years.

Stacy Carolin, a Georgia Tech Ph.D. candidate who worked on the project cut open the ancient stalagmites and took samples of each centimeter, she then measured the uranium and thorium isotope ratios of each piece. Measuring these levels can map out a history of the precipitation levels in the region during each specific time frame.

"Stalagmites are time capsules of climate signals from thousands of years in the past," Carolin said. "We have instrumental records of climate only for the past 100 years or so, and if we want to look deeper into the past, we have to find records like these that locked in climate signals we can extract today."

Ahhh, here we are, the BIG LIE!!! :o

the rainfall that formed the stalagmites, which formed at a rate of about one centimeter every 1,000 years

This is 100% pure lying. This story is being used to push the evolution lie and the climate change lie.

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Rapid stalactites

by Stephen Meyers and Robert Doolan

Those beautiful stone ‘icicles’ you see hanging from the ceiling of limestone caves are called stalactites (they ‘stay tight’ on the ceiling). The forms you see growing up from the cave floor are called stalagmites. When they meet, the joined pair becomes a column. Sheet-like layered deposits on cave walls or floors are called flowstone.

Although these fantastic features are commonly thought to represent perhaps tens of thousands of years or more of groundwater action,1 there is much evidence that they can form rapidly under certain conditions. For example, Sequoyah Caverns, south of Chattanooga at Valley Head, Alabama, has fast-growing formations. Director of the caverns, Clark Byers, cemented a clear plastic panel in front of some stalactites in April, 1977, to prevent tourists from breaking them off. In less than 10 years the stalactites grew about 25 centimetres (10 inches or one inch per year). On the ceiling of the cave, animal tracks can be seen, and there are fossils of many marine creatures—plus a bird fossil which looks like a chicken. In an interview in 1985, cavern director Byers made no secret of the fact that he believes these fossils are a result of Noah’s Flood.

So how fast can stalactites and stalagmites form?

Bat Cave

In October 1953, National Geographic published a photo of a bat that had fallen on a stalagmite in the famous Carlsbad Caverns, New Mexico, and had been cemented on to it. The stalagmite had grown so fast it was able to preserve the bat before the creature had time to decompose.2

Stalactites many centimetres long are sometimes seen under modern-day bridges and in tunnels. Some stalactites have formed quickly in a tunnel in Raccoon Mountain, just west of Chattanooga, Tennessee. The tunnel was blasted through the mountain’s limestone rock to build a power plant in 1977. Water from the plant’s pump-turbines dissolves the limestone, and stalactites form rapidly.

At Australia’s Jenolan Caves in New South Wales, a lemonade bottle was placed below a continually active stalactite in the ‘Temple of Baal’ in 1954. In the following 33 years a coating of calcite about three millimetres thick has formed on the bottle. The same amount of deposit has formed since development in 1932 of the Ribbon Cave in the jenolan system. At this time pathways were cut through areas of flowstone. Water flowing down the sides of these cuttings over the past 55 years has built up the current deposit.

A photograph taken in February, 1968, shows a curtain of stalactites growing from the foundation ceiling beneath the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC. Some of the stalactites had grown to five feet long (a metre and a half) in the 45 years since the memorial was built in 1923.3

At jenolan Caves and many other places there are examples of stalactites and stalagmites developing from man-made structures. Like the Lincoln Memorial, the jenolan structures contain cement-mortar which is highly permeable, allowing these formations to develop rapidly. The resultant formation is quite powdery and brittle however.

Slow Growth?

The growth rate of stalactites and stalagmites in many caves today is of course quite slow. But even in such caves the current slow rate of growth cannot be guaranteed to have always been this sluggish. Caves and their formations in tropical areas develop much faster than those in more temperate regions because of higher annual rainfall. But many factors, apart from the obvious unknown rate of water drip in the past, influence growth rate.

Stalactites can, and do, grow quickly. A talking point at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, is the fact that stalactites are growing on the cement wall steps between the university’s Anderson Hall and Gladfelter Hall. Right below the stalactites, some stalagmites are forming. Although only several centimetres high, they have all formed since the concrete stairway of Gladfelter Hall was built in May, 1973.

There are a number of bridges in Philadelphia which have stalactites growing on them. Some are more than a foot long (30 cm), but many smaller examples have also formed. One bridge was built in 1931 by the City of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania Railroad, so all these formations are less than 56 years old.

Formations in the hot water springs in Wyoming’s Yellowstone National Park grow about 2.5 cm (one inch) per year. And there are many examples of rainwater tanks in country areas of Australia that have stalactites growing on them.

Conclusion

Because of the evidence for fast-growing stalactites now becoming available, we can safely conclude that the world’s beautiful limestone cave formations may not have needed countless thousands of years to form. These spectacular formations could have formed quite rapidly in just a few thousand years—a time framework consistent with the view that they were formed during the closing stages of, and after, the worldwide Flood of Noah’s time.

References
1.Encyclopedia Americana, Americana Corporation, Danbury (Connecticut), 1978, Vol. 25, p. 570.
2.Mason Sutherland, Carlsbad Caverns in Color, National Geographic, October, 1953, p. 442.
3.John C. Whitcomb, Jr, The World That Perished, Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1973, pp. 114–115.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/4793/20130607/stalagmites-give-scientists-100-000-year-history-rain-patterns-tropical.htm

Mapping genes of a horse from 700,000 years ago

From a tiny fossil bone found in the frozen Yukon, SO TINY YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS FROM :D scientists have deciphered the genetic code of an ancient horse about 700,000 years old WONDER HOW THEY CAME BY THAT DATE? -- nearly 10 times older than any other animal that has had its genome mapped.

Scientists used new techniques and computing to take DNA from a 5-inch fossil fragment -- most of which was contaminated with more modern bacteria So what we have here. is a tiny fossil that is 100% CONTAMINATED!!! seriously, and they expect you t buy this garbadge.

-- and get a good genetic picture of an ancestral horse. The work was published Wednesday in the journal Nature and discussed at a science conference in Helsinki.

The research gives a better insight into the evolution of one of the most studied mammals. Perhaps more importantly, it opens up new possibilities for mapping the genetic blueprints of all sorts of ancient animals from early human ancestors to mastodons to mammoths to bison, said study lead authors Ludovic Orlando and Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen.

This "is breaking the time barrier," Willerslev said. Breaking the what ??? barrier really

The previous oldest animal fossil genetically mapped had been an ancient relative of Neanderthals called the Denisovans, from about 75,000 years ago, found in a Siberian cave.

The ancient horse was probably about the size of current Arabian horses, the researchers said. It didn't have the same genes for large muscles that make today's breeds good for racing, and it was larger than researchers once thought, Orlando and Willerslev said. This is such a lie, the chart for horses is wrong anyway, they dont even go in sequence.

The new mapping techniques, which involve all sorts of technical changes, that means easier to lie about it, as we just saw. could be used not just with fossils from frozen areas like Canada's Yukon and Russia's Siberia, but also from more temperate climates, and may eventually allow researchers to map animal genomes from 1 million years ago, Orlando said.

Ross MacPhee, curator of mammals at the American Museum of Natural History, who wasn't part of the research, said the accomplishment suggests "there's no reason in substance why we couldn't go back further."

"I think it's cool," said another outside expert, Edward Rubin, who heads the U.S. Department of Energy's Joint Genome Institute and has deciphered Neanderthal and cave bear DNA.

"We can always keep our fingers crossed that (DNA from) an ancient hominid will be found in one of those environments that have been cold," perhaps even the last common ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans, he said.

Orlando and Willerslev said it doesn't have to be that cold, but much of the most ancient human development was in Africa where the hotter climate makes DNA disintegrate faster. Still, there were enough hominids in temperate climates to give hope for older genome sequencing of some of our ancestors, they said.

There was a lot of junk in the Yukon fossil that wasn't horse but bacteria, Orlando said. He said for every 200 DNA molecules they sequenced, only one was from the horse.

:o so how do you even know what your getting then? really people...

The research estimated that the evolutionary tree split that led to horses on one branch and donkeys on the other happened about 4 million years ago.

The analysis also found new evidence that an endangered animal called the Przewalski's horse, found in Mongolia and China, is the last surviving wild horse. It is genetically distinct from domestic horses.

http://www.newsday.com/news/world/mapping-genes-of-a-horse-from-700-000-years-ago-1.5573487

Genetic 'Adam' and 'Eve' uncovered

Almost every man alive can trace his origins to one man who lived about 135,000 years ago, new research suggests. And that ancient man likely shared the planet with the mother of all women.

Actually everyone can trace themselves to Adam. And more like 6000 years, not 135,000 :D

The findings, detailed Thursday, Aug. 1, in the journal Science, come from the most complete analysis of the male sex chromosome, or the Y chromosome, to date. The results overturn earlier research, which suggested that men's most recent common ancestor lived just 50,000 to 60,000 years ago.

I love that, "overturn earlier research", funny how things always get older. ::)

Despite their overlap in time, ancient "Adam" and ancient "Eve" probably didn't even live near each other, let alone mate.

wo wo wo woooooo!!! If ahh, they didnt live together, than HOW DID THEY MATE???? :D guess you weren’t supposed to worry about that part of the story.

"Those two people didn't know each other," said Melissa Wilson Sayres, a geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study.

Then doesn’t that kind of mean your study is 100% useless? How can you have found genetically the first man and first woman yet they dont live together or even mate? Come on, this story is so full of holes it is ridicules

Tracing history
Researchers believe that modern humans left Africa between 60,000 and 200,000 years ago, and that the mother of all women likely emerged from East Africa. But beyond that, the details get fuzzy.

Heck that's fuzzy as there is zero proof to back any of that up. And all of the finds have been proven FRAUDS.

The Y chromosome is passed down identically from father to son, so mutations, or point changes, in the male sex chromosome can trace the male line back to the father of all humans. By contrast, DNA from the mitochondria, the energy powerhouse of the cell, is carried inside the egg, so only women pass it on to their children. The DNA hidden inside mitochondria, therefore, can reveal the maternal lineage to an ancient Eve.

But over time, the male chromosome gets bloated with duplicated, jumbled-up stretches of DNA, said study co-author Carlos Bustamante, a geneticist at Stanford University in California. As a result, piecing together fragments of DNA from gene sequencing was like trying to assemble a puzzle without the image on the box top, making thorough analysis difficult.

Psalm 102:26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: solved that riddle ;)

Y chromosome
Bustamante and his colleagues assembled a much bigger piece of the puzzle by sequencing the entire genome of the Y chromosome for 69 men from seven global populations, from African San Bushmen to the Yakut of Siberia.

By assuming a mutation rate anchored to archaeological events (such as the migration of people across the Bering Strait), the team concluded that all males in their global sample shared a single male ancestor in Africa roughly 125,000 to 156,000 years ago.

In addition, mitochondrial DNA from the men, as well as similar samples from 24 women, revealed that all women on the planet trace back to a mitochondrial Eve, who lived in Africa between 99,000 and 148,000 years ago almost the same time period during which the Y-chromosome Adam lived.

They just made the part about Africa up, they can’t prove that. They just say it as they need it in their creation myth

More ancient Adam
But the results, though fascinating, are just part of the story, said Michael Hammer, an evolutionary geneticist at the University of Arizona who was not involved in the study.

A separate study in the same issue of the journal Science found that men shared a common ancestor between 180,000 and 200,000 years ago.

And in a study detailed in March in the American Journal of Human Genetics, Hammer's group showed that several men in Africa have unique, divergent Y chromosomes that trace back to an even more ancient man who lived between 237,000 and 581,000 years ago. [Unraveling the Human Genome: 6 Molecular Milestones]

"It doesn't even fit on the family tree that the Bustamante lab has constructed. It's older," Hammer told LiveScience.

well duh... if it doesn’t fit why use it? if the science isn’t accurate how can you trust it or use it? This really makes you wonder how many variables and "false positives" they had in this study that they discarded as it did not fit their findings and they don’t talk about??

Gene studies always rely on a sample of DNA and, therefore, provide an incomplete picture of human history. For instance, Hammer's group sampled a different group of men than Bustamante's lab did, leading to different estimates of how old common ancestors really are.

Imagine that, the studies don’t match!!! That right there tells you that the whole thing doesn’t work. If it did they would match EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!!

Adam and Eve?
These primeval people aren't parallel to the biblical Adam and Eve. They weren't the first modern humans on the planet, but instead just the two out of thousands of people alive at the time with unbroken male or female lineages that continue on today.

No, it’s Adam and Eve, the problem is your science doesn’t work. And you admitted as much in your article. You don’t want Adam and Eve as that means there is a creator, and your responsible for your own actions.

The rest of the human genome contains tiny snippets of DNA from many other ancestors they just don't show up in mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, Hammer said. (For instance, if an ancient woman had only sons, then her mitochondrial DNA would disappear, even though the son would pass on a quarter of her DNA via the rest of his genome.)

As a follow-up, Bustamante's lab is sequencing Y chromosomes from nearly 2,000 other men. Those data could help pinpoint precisely where in Africa these ancient humans lived.

Doubt that, but you'll just make up stuff anyway. Probably right around the time the GRANT money starts to dry up. :P

"It's very exciting," Wilson Sayres told LiveScience. "As we get more populations across the world, we can start to understand exactly where we came from physically."

We already know that, Gen 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/08/02/genetic-adam-and-eve-uncovered/#ixzz2au8ByfHP

West Antarctica Warmed Quickly ... 20,000 Years Ago

The modern meltdown of the Antarctic Ice Sheet mirrors the frozen continent's big thaw after the last ice age ended 20,000 years ago, a new study finds.

New ice core records from West Antarctica show the huge ice sheet started heating up about 20,000 to 22,000 years ago, 2,000 to 4,000 years earlier than previously thought. But in East Antarctica, which was higher in elevation, colder and drier than the West, the continent stayed in its deep-freeze cycle until 18,000 years ago. The results were published today (Aug. 14) in the journal Nature.

rest: http://www.livescience.com/38882-west-antarctica-thawed-earlier.html

This whole article revolves around New ice core records . When they pull up an ice core, they drill a hole with a hollow drill and knock out the core after they are done. Its like you will a straw up with water and freeze it, then push out the frozen water. That is an ice core. When the drill one and pop it out, you will notice a whole bunch of tiny layers. Like a tree ring. Here is the articles pic, showing the layers.

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They, they being lying scientists and authors with an agenda, who disregard REAL science for their religion of evolution, say that each layer is a year, like a tree. While real science shows both of those claims to be false, they don’t care. You can see these layers on most wintry days where it snows, warms up, gets cold, snows again. Easy to find in places like Alaska.

You see it isn’t a year’s growth of ice, as usually the arctic and Antarctic doesn’t even get enough water to form a layer, but what it actually represents is nothing more than, warm cold warm cold, as the top of the ice warms it gently melts, and then freezes again when it gets cold thus creating layers. Now layers will pack tightly when compressed. No one is doubting that, even ICE will compact as there is air trapped in the pours nature of ice.

So it is impossible to date ICE by ice layers. You can’t do it, and this is proven by REAL ACTUAL SCIENCE, OBSERVABLE SCIENCE!!!! Not make believe faith based science, which this is.

The article states, 20,000 to 22,000 years ago, they came to that number by literally counting the layers. That’s right, some guy with a grant from the government, counted all those rings from the core. and we probably paid for it.

Here is a fact, in Greenland a bunch of WW2 fighters and bombers had to crash land on the ice. Actually July 15 1942. Well 46 years later, they went back and found the planes buried in 260 feet of ice. That’s right 260 feet in 64 years. That is an observable fact. When they dug down to the planes there were hundreds of layers of ice between the 2, yet only 64 years. So some one is lying. I wonder who it is.

(http://bloggingforliberty.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Greenland-P-38-The-Hole.jpg)

This isn’t the best pic, but you can see the layers in the ice as they descend on the planes.

So the whole purpose of this article is 20,000 to 22,000 years ago, which has just been proven with observable SCIENCE to be a lie.

The Rescue of the Lost Squadron: The story and exploits of O.E. Toole
http://www.museumoftheperson.org/mop/2008/04/the-rescue-of-the-lost-squadron-the-story-and-exploits-of-o-e-toole/

:D You so funny!

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January 24th, 2014, 12:33 GMT · By Laura Sinpetru

There is a piece of news that is now spreading like wildfire on the Internet, and folks on Reddit seem unable to get enough of it.

The news in question concerns North Korea's allegedly claiming that it had successfully landed a man on the sun, and then got him back home just in time for dinner.

The frenzy was started by Waterford Whispers News, whose staff published an article apparently detailing North Korea's space adventure this past January 21.

In its article, the publication wrote that the news concerning North Korea's success in landing a man on the sun was shared with the public by the country's central news agency.

It went on to say that the lucky individual was Hung Il Gong, and that his uncle was none other than Kim Jong-un.

Waterford Whispers News added that it only took Hung Il Gong 4 hours to reach the sun, and that the mission lasted for about 18 hours in total.

The astronaut is said to have traveled on a specially designed rocket, and to have used the cover of darkness (for those unaware, the sun turns off during nighttime) to avoid getting an unwanted tan.

While exploring the star, he collected sun spot samples that were meant as presents for Kim Jong-un.

North Korea is known to be a fan of propaganda, so quite a lot of people assumed that the country had in fact told the rest of the world that it had successfully completed this space odyssey.

It turns out these people could not have been more wrong and that, as surprising as this may sound, North Korea does have its limits when it comes to making outrageous statements.

Just to clear things out, the problem with this story is that Waterford Whispers News, whose staff, as already mentioned, first broke the news that North Korea had claimed sending a man to the sun,is an Irish satire publication.Otherwise put, neither has North Korea landed a man on said star, nor has the country said that it did. On the contrary, the news was a hoax, and quite a good one.

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Waterford Whispers News is a fabricated satirical newspaper and comedy website published by Waterford Whispers News.

Waterford Whispers News uses invented names in all its stories, except in cases when public figures are being satirized. Any other use of real names is accidental and coincidental.

Camel bones suggest error in Bible, archaeologists say

Archaeologists from Israel’s top university have used radiocarbon dating
There ya go. Radiocarbon dating which DOESNT WORK, disproves the Bible. This is a direct attack on the Bible. Nothing else. to pinpoint the arrival of domestic camels in the Middle East -- and they say the science directly contradicts the Bible’s version of events.

Camels are mentioned as pack animals in the biblical stories of Abraham, Joseph and Jacob, Old Testament stories that historians peg to between 2000 and 1500 BC. But Erez Ben-Yosef and Lidar Sapir-Hen of Tel Aviv University's Department of Archaeology and Near Eastern Cultures say camels weren’t domesticated in Israel until centuries later, more like 900 BC.

“In addition to challenging the Bible's historicity, this anachronism is direct proof that the text was compiled well after the events it describes,” reads a press release announcing the research.

To find the first camel, Sapir-Hen and Ben-Yosef used radiocarbon dating to analyze the oldest known camel bones in the Arabian Peninsula, found at the remains of a copper smelting camp in the Aravah Valley, which runs along the border with Jordan from the Dead Sea to the Red Sea.

How do they know these are the oldest camel bones in the whole Arabian Peninsula? :D

The bones were in archaeological layers dating from the last third of the 10th century BC or later — centuries after the patriarchs lived and decades after the Kingdom of David, according to the Bible, the researchers said. The few camel bones found in earlier archaeological layers probably belonged to wild camels, which archaeologists think lived there during the Neolithic period or even earlier.

Wait!!! So they have older camel bones, but they were wild camels. ??? come on man... There is NO SCIENCE here. None what so ever.

Notably, all the sites active in the 9th century in the Arava Valley had camel bones, but none of the sites that were active earlier contained them.

"The introduction of the camel to our region was a very important economic and social development," Ben-Yosef said. "By analyzing archaeological evidence from the copper production sites of the Aravah Valley, we were able to estimate the date of this event in terms of decades rather than centuries."

The arrival of domesticated camels promoted trade between Israel and exotic locations unreachable before, according to the researchers. Camels can travel over much longer distances than donkeys and mules, opening up trade routes like the Incense Road that stretched from Africa through Israel to India.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/06/camel-bones-suggest-error-in-bible/

Radiocarbon Dating only works if you dont know how old something is. Heck it will work 100% of the time. BUT if you know just how old something is, than all radiocarbon dating fails 100% of the time. Heck the C14 has never equalized in the atmosphere. :D

http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=6

Just to say before i post this, i did reach out to the author of this article and gave him the truth behind this, he did say he would look into it. So we will see, but until then this is always cropping up and it is 100% a fraud. Im only posting half the article, as i fully agree with the second half.

Why Does Ancient Art Contain Depictions Of Flying Aircraft, Helicopters And Dinosaurs?

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The history of our planet is far more complex than most people would dare to imagine. According to the commonly accepted version of history that is taught in high schools and colleges all over the United States, ancient man was a very simple creature with extremely limited knowledge. Unfortunately for those that promote this flawed version of history, archaeologists keep digging up stuff that directly contradicts it. The truth is that there is a tremendous amount of evidence of great intellectual achievement in the ancient world. For example, just consider the Great Pyramid of Giza. It is a true technological marvel. It is such a massive structure built with such extraordinary precision that modern technology is only just now starting to catch up with it. We think that we could possibly build a similar structure today if we wanted to, but modern man has never actually constructed anything like it. And as you will see below, the Great Pyramid of Giza is far from the only example of advanced technology in the ancient world that we find in Egypt.

Posted below is a photograph of a wall in an ancient Egyptian temple at Abydos. Look at the hieroglyphics very carefully.

Do you see anything strange?

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Researcher Lyn Leahz wrote about these incredibly bizarre hieroglyphics the other day. The following is what she had to say about them…

Decorating an Egyptian temple wall at Abydos are strange hieroglyphics which depict what appears to be modern day aircraft. This finding has caused much controversy among Egyptologists and archaeologists who are not sure what to think. How could people 2-3,000 years ago possibly have known about modern-day aircraft?

When Dr. Ruth Hover and her husband took a trip to the pyramids and temples of Egypt, they were shocked when they discovered, in the temple at Abydos, hieroglyphics depicting modern-day aircraft. She photographed a wall panel in a section where an overlaying panel with Egyptian hieroglyphics crumbled and fell, revealing an older panel beneath it. This older panel, shown above, contains images of what appear to be modern-day technology—a helicopter, a submarine, a glider, and another unknown type of aircraft (some believe resemble the Hindenburg).

So how do those promoting the commonly accepted version of history explain this?

They can’t.

In the video shared below, Lyn Leahz shares even more about these hieroglyphics and discusses additional “out of place artifacts” around the globe…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPYYeVoC3hk&feature=player_embedded

full article: http://thetruthwins.com/archives/why-does-ancient-art-contain-depictions-of-flying-aircraft-helicopters-and-dinosaurs

What we have here is a palimpsest, easiest meaning is its something that is written over on. Here at Abydos we have a hieroglyph that has been covered over and re written on. And over time with erosion it starts to mix. That is how we ended up with the "mysterious" pictures of helicopters, jets submarines and the land speeder from star wars. :D This isnt any of those things. Just a pure coincidence and a lot of pareidolia. This is in fact 2 names mixed together over time. Seti 1 and Ramses 2. Nothing else. And all those Ancient Aliens guys and especially Steve Quayle know this. But hey the truth doesnt sell books or TV shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzeZAcb_kmE

Here is one more that really just irks me to no end. You see these all over and the AA crowd has even made flying replicas of these things just to see if they could fly, after a lot of modification :D. But for this i will let Chris White explain this one as he did a superb job of it. Again a 100% fraud.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPCscY4_71w&feature=player_embedded

Section: Tolima – Gold Figurines.

Ancient Aliens: “Early in the 20th century, tomb robbers searching among the Magdalena River stumbled upon a grave site dating back 1,500 years to a pre-Columbian civilization known as the Tolima. Among the funerary objects found there were 100s of small 2-3 inch gold figurines.”

AA: “Many of those [figurines] looked like insects and fish. However, out of those 100s that they found, they also found about a dozen that are eerily reminiscent of modern-day fighter jets.”

Okay, so he admits that when these things were found there were hundreds of them that were clearly representing insects and animals and only about 10 of them that looked like jet airplanes.

Now, before we get into the specifics I want to appeal to your sense of logic. Almost all of these little figurines are depicting fish, birds, insects, lizards and frogs, and we can see when we look at the figurines where we know what they were trying to depict – like these frogs -we can see huge amounts of variation and clearly stylistic elements that are not found in nature.

So we know they weren’t trying to be ultra-realistic here, which you can see by looking at their depictions of this man, or this cat, or this alligator. The Tolima were artists, and like most artists they had a certain style that they brought to the subjects they were depicting.

Considering that all the other objects they found are animals, and considering the objects in question, like all the others, have eyes and teeth and so on, isn’t it more logical to assume that these objects are probably like all the others? That is, that they are also depicting some kind of animal in a stylized way?

Ahh, but wait, Ancient Aliens has a false dilemma for us.

AA: “They have nothing in common with anything similar in nature.”

AA: “There is not a single insect in the world which has got its wings at the bottom. Now, when you exclude the possibility that it’s an insect, one of the things which remain is that this thing is actually what it looks like – yes, a plane.”

Okay, let’s see if we have this logic straight.

Since no insect has these characteristics, it leaves us with only one other choice, which is an airplane? But I thought there were fish, birds, lizards, bats and cats found too in the other 100 figurines? It would seem to me that he is kind of skipping a few options here on his way to the airplane conclusion.

Let’s take the most famous one for example. This is the one we will see later that they made a model airplane out of. The tails of all these figures are vertical, which would make me think of fish, which also have vertical tails.

One fish that the Tolima would have been familiar with is the sucker mouth Catfish.[1] This might explain the round head and the big eyes, and even the small protrusions on the front of the fins. You can see that some varieties of this species of catfish have small protrusions on its fins as well.

When you look at the other gold figurines you can see that not only were fish a common subject, but many different species of fish were represented as well.

Because of the number and placement of the fins, fish are proposed for some of the other figurines as well. So when he says that no insect has its wings on the bottom so it must be an airplane, I can only see that line as deceptive considering the placement and angle of the fins are perfectly accounted for in many fish species that were available and important to the Tolima culture.[2] In other words, airplanes don’t have a monopoly on being aerodynamic.

To prove one of these figurines was aerodynamic which, according to Ancient Aliens proves it was a plane, they built a model of it. Here is what they say about it.

AA: “It was rather simple because we don’t need to put [many] parts into this shape because this shape is perfect. Everything was already done by the native people 2,000 years ago.”

AA: “They did not add an inch or remove an inch; they just essentially just blew the thing into a larger size. I mean, this is sensational.”

No they didn’t add an inch or remove an inch, unless you count things like totally removing the big curls on the front of the wings which would have rendered the model totally useless for flying. They also added curvature to the wings; they added flaps, a landing gear and, one more little thing, a propeller and an engine.

Finally, I want to appeal to your logic on the following point:

Consider that all we know about this culture reveals them to be simple farmers, fisherman, and artisans[3]; people that lived of the land and, considering that there is nothing in the extensive amount of archeological material from this culture that would suggest knowledge about planes landing and taking off all the time, is it logical to assume that aliens landing and taking off in their back yards made so little impression on them that they only devote 10 of the 100s of figurines to it, and only in one tomb?

Or is it more logical to assume that, just like the other hundreds of figurines with eyes and teeth and fins, that they are highly stylized animals, like fish, that they knew about and relied upon in their daily lives.

I think even a die-hard Ancient Astronaut theorist would have to admit that logic is not on their side on this one.

[1] Nelson, Joseph, S. (2006). Fishes of the World. John Wiley & Sons, Inc..

[2] Fishbase.org. “List of Freshwater Fishes for Colombia.” List of Freshwater Fishes for Colombia, August 15, 2007. http://fish.mongabay.com/data/Colombia.htm.

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pijao_people
- See more at: http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/tolima-fighter-jets/#sthash.k0gRlbTD.dpuf

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No they didn’t add an inch or remove an inch, unless you count things like totally removing the big curls on the front of the wings which would have rendered the model totally useless for flying. They also added curvature to the wings; they added flaps, a landing gear and, one more little thing, a propeller and an engine.

I too think it's a stretch to say the figurine is an airplane. The problem is that it doesn't look like much of any thing. There are similarities to several animals, but it's limited. The explanations this guy gave is weak at best.

What he doesn't understand is "flight theory". I can pretty much guarantee he hasn't had a single class on anything aviation. I have, and I totally disagree with him.

Take ANY of those figurines and try to get it to fly! Only ONE of them will do it, the "jet plane", which to me reminds me of an A-4 Skyhawk.

(http://www.pcaviator.com.au/store/images/D/Virtavia_A-4_Skyhawk_03.jpg)

That said, I agree there has been no other artifacts revealed to back a culture knowing about flying. With such a fantastic feat, flying I think would have been more prominent in evidence they could fly.

And the curly things on the wings that the remote control plane didn't have? Those things would not have affected flight, at all. The author is an idiot that has zero understanding of flight theory. Just look at the above image of the figurines. Not one has curlys on the leading edge of the wings. In fact, that image shows none of them having the curly things, like the original figurine I've seen. That one has the curls on the trailing edge of the wings, which weren't used in the first trial flight of the model, which I saw demonstrated. It flew just fine.

Also, in order to fly, you MUST have flaps of some type to control lift, and landing gear to land, duh! And even without the engine, that thing would still "glide" because of it's shape. I'd say it wouldn't glide very good though. because it's body it too "heavy" and large, but instead should be much narrower and light in design.

Plane? Likely not. But the disputers need a better person to explain how it isn't a plane, because this guy is clueless about flight characteristics.

This fairy tale goes right along with all other radiometric stories. They are assuming that everything is how they think it should. That there was no lead there to begin with. No way of knowing that, and every time a radiometric test is carried out with a KNOWN age, the tests have failed 100% of the time every time with out fail. Same here. They even admit in the article that this rock was exposed to extra radiation, but they were pretty sure its still ok. :D really?

Confirmed: Oldest fragment of early Earth is 4.4 billion years old

Ever heard this life advice? When solving a big problem seems impossible, break it into smaller steps.

Well, scientists just took one of geology's biggest controversies and shrunk it down to atomic size. By zapping single atoms of lead in a tiny zircon crystal from Australia, researchers have confirmed the crystal is the oldest rock fragment ever found on Earth 4.375 billion years old, plus or minus 6 million years.

plus or minus 6 MILLION years, wish i had that kind of curve on my math when i was in school. ::)

"We've proved that the chemical record inside these zircons is trustworthy," said John Valley, lead study author and a geochemist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. The findings were published yesterday in the journal Nature Geoscience.

Remember that, he said these ones were trust worthy.

Confirmation of the zircon age holds enormous implications for models of early Earth. Trace elements in the oldest zircons from Australia's Jack Hills range suggest they came from water-rich, granite-like rocks such as granodiorite or tonalite, other studies have reported. That means Earth cooled quickly enough for surface water and continental-type rocks just 100 million years after the moon impact, the massive collision that formed the Earth-moon system. [How Was The Moon Formed?]

no one knows how the moon was formed scientifically, :D i know how it was formed, but ask an evolutionist and you get 100 different answers. Oh why isnt it spinning? :D

"The zircons show us the earliest Earth was more like the Earth we know today," Valley said. "It wasn't an inhospitable place."

woops, kind of shooting your self in the foot here. bet he will get reprimanded for saying that... :o Thats a no no...

Dubious history
Zircons are one of the toughest minerals on the planet. The ancient Australian crystals date back to just 165 million years after Earth formed, and have survived tumbling trips down rivers, burial deep in the crust, heating, squeezing and a tectonic ride back to the surface. The Australian zircons, from the Jack Hills, aren't the oldest rocks on Earth those are in Canada but about 3 billion years ago, the minerals eroded out some of Earth's first continental crust and became part of a riverbed.

Geologists have carefully sorted out more than 100,000 microscopic Jack Hills zircons that date back to Earth's early epochs, from 3 billion to nearly 4.4 billion years ago. (The planet is 4.54 billion years old.) The crystals contain microscopic inclusions, such as gas bubbles, that provide a unique window into conditions on Earth as life arose and the first continents formed.

How did they come up with those dates to begin with? Oh that's right the fictions geological column. That means they just made up those dates. and thats a fact.

Just three of the very oldest zircons have been found, ones that date back to almost 4.4 billion years ago. Their extreme age always makes the dates suspect, because of possible radiation damage. The radiation damage means the zircons could have been contaminated during their long lifetime.

hmmm, radiation damaged...

Zircons hold minute amounts of two naturally occurring uranium isotopes isotopes are atoms of the same element with different numbers of neutrons. Uranium radioactively decays to lead at a steady rate. Counting the number of lead isotopes is how scientists date the crystals. But as the uranium kicks out lead atoms, the radioactive decay releases alpha particles, which can damage the crystals, creating defects. These defects mean fluids and outside elements can infiltrate the crystals, casting doubt on any conclusions about early Earth based on the zircons.

More important, uranium and lead can move around within a crystal, or even escape or enter the zircon. This mobility can throw off the lead isotope count used to calculate the zircon ages, and is the source of the decades-long controversy over the Jack Hills zircons' Methuselah lifespan.

so because the uranium and lead can move that throws off the isotope count and gives an inaccurate long age... hmmm.. seems pretty suspect to begin with.

"If there's a process by where lead can move from one part of the crystal to another place, then the place where lead is concentrated will have an older apparent age and the place from where it moves will have a younger apparent age," Valley said.

yep doesnt seem to be very accurate.

Atom by atom
Valley and his co-authors hope to end the debate by showing that even though one of the oldest Jack Hills zircons suffered radiation damage,
Remember when he said these were trustworthy? and here he is admitting that these are radiation damaged, meaning that your going to get an older date already. The guy just lied. He said they were good, but here we are told they are damaged, and that damaged one give off older dates.
the lead atoms stayed in place. The researchers painstakingly counted individual lead atoms within the oldest-known zircon with a recently developed technique called atom-probe tomography. Inside the zircon, lead atoms clustered together in damage zones just a few nanometers wide. Imagine cliques of teens during high school lunch like teenagers, no lead atoms had left their zones.

"We've demonstrated this zircon is a closed geochemical system, and we've never been able to do that before," Valley said. "There's no question that many zircons do suffer radiation damage, but I think relative to these zircons, this should settle it once and for all," Valley told Live Science's Our Amazing Planet.

what? you think? your guessing?

The key finding, that lead atoms stick close to home inside this primeval zircon, means age estimates based on uranium-lead dating techniques are accurate, the researchers report. The lead hasn't wiggled around enough to throw off the ages. A typical age measurement, made with a machine called an ion probe, zaps zircon segments that are thousands of times larger than the damage clusters.

so hes saying he knows that these were damaged by radiation, which will give a longer age, and here is just counting them and saying they didn't move. come on man.. There is no way your test can even be considered accurate because you already KNOW that these have been exposed to an outside source of radiation already throwing off your test.

"This careful piece of work should settle the debate because it shows that indeed there is some mobility of lead, which was hypothesized to result in dates that were too old, but the scale of mobility is nanometers," said Samuel Bowring, a geochemist at MIT, who was not involved in the study."Even the smallest volumes analyzed with the ion probe average out the heterogeneities," or variations within the zircon.

The new atom-probe technique, while extremely laborious, can also be used to address questions of reliability at other sites where extremely old rocks have been found, the researchers said. [Have There Always Been Continents?]

Reliability of other sites? Dude this one wasn't reliable and you admitted it. This is the sad thing about these stories. People will see the head line and thats it. For starters they dont know if there was lead to begin with, and in every other radiometric dating this have proven to be true. 100% of the time every time. Same here, then they admit that it was exposed to extra radiation which will through the test off even more for a false date. But hey thats ok. This story is so false its amazing, must be why FOX is promoting it, as they have been attacking the Bible every chance they get here of late.

"Good zircons are forever, and what this does is help us separate the wheat from the chaff in a way we could never do before," Valley said.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/24/confirmed-oldest-fragment-early-earth-is-44-billion-years-old/

This one isn't a fraudulent story, its truthful for once, but i think its really underestimating the issue.

Over 100 published science journal articles just gibberish

Do scientific papers ever seem like unreadable gibberish to you? Well, sometimes they really are.

Some 120 papers published in established scientific journals over the last few years have been found to be frauds, created by nothing more than an automated word generator that puts random, fancy-sounding words together in plausible sentence structures. As a result they have been pulled from the journals that originally published them.

The fake papers are in the fields of computer science and math and have titles such as “Application and Research of Smalltalk Harnessing Based on Game-Theoretic Symmetries”; “An Evaluation of E-Business with Fin”; and “Simulating Flip-Flop Gates Using Peer-to-Peer Methodologies.” The authors of those papers did not respond to requests for comment from FoxNews.com.

This is not the first time nonsense papers have been published.

heck no, its pretty much a racket.

In 1996, as a test, a physics professor submitted a fake paper to the philosophy journal Social Text. His paper argued that gravity is “postmodern” because it is “free from any dependence on the concept of objective truth.” Yet it was accepted and published.

But how could gibberish end up in respectable science papers?
How? Because most of it isnt real science to begin with.
The man who discovered the recent frauds said it showed slipping standards among scientists.

"High pressure on scientists leads directly to too prolific and less meaningful publications," computer scientist Cyril Labbé of Joseph Fourier University in France, told FoxNews.com.

But he has no explanation as to why the journals published meaningless papers. $$$

"They all should have been evaluated by a peer-review process. I've no explanation for them being here. I guess each of them needs an investigation," he said.
that was the whole issue with publishing the works, so it could be peer reviewed. :D

The publishers also could not explain it, admitting that the papers “are all nonsense.”

“We are in the process of investigating… [and] taking the papers down as quickly as possible. A placeholder notice will be put up once the papers have been removed. Since we publish over 2,200 journals and 8,400 books annually, this will take some time,” Eric Merkel-Sobotta, a spokesman for the publisher Springer, which published 16 of the fake papers, told FoxNews.com.

The fraud was first reported in the journal Nature.

Labbé has made it his mission to detect fakes, and ironically has published a paper in a Springer journal about how to automatically detect fake papers. He also built a website that detects whether papers are computer generated.

“Our tools are very efficient to detect SCIgen papers and also to detect duplicates and plagiarisms,” Labbé said. SCIgen is the program that generates random papers.

Some professors said that pay rules that base professor salaries on the number of papers they publish may lead to fakes.

“Most schools have merit raise systems of some kind, and a professor’s merit score is affected by his or her success in publishing scholarly papers,” Robert Archibald, a professor of economics at the College of William and Mary, who studies the economics of higher education, told FoxNews.com.

He noted that because other professors may not read the paper, “publishing a paper that was computer-generated might help with merit pay.”

Labbé also said that overly numerical measures might encourage fraud.

“In aiming at measuring science it is perturbing science,” he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/28/over-100-published-science-journal-articles-just-gibberish/?cmpid=edpick

Remember the ‘Hobbit’ Human Scientists Thought They Found? Well…

:D

Nearly a decade ago, researchers discovered the remains of what was thought to be a new human species and dubbed the “Hobbit” human for its short stature and small skull.

While the 2004 discovery on the Indonesian island Flores was hailed as “the most important find in human evolution for 100 years” at the time, more recent analysis debunks that Homo florensiensis was a distinct human species. A team of international researchers now think the 15,000-year-old bones represent someone who had Down syndrome.

“The skeletal sample from Liang Bua cave contains fragmentary remains of several individuals,” Robert Eckhardt, a developmental genetics and evolution professor at Pennsylvania State University, said in a statement. “[This skeleton specifically] has the only skull and thighbones in the entire sample.”

The bones of the skeleton, which was named LB1, only put the person at 3.5 feet tall. That and measurements of its skull were initially what led scientists to consider it a possible new species. But Eckhardt now say that the skull “falls in the range predicted for a modern human with Down syndrome from the same geographic region.” The thigh bone, which was used to estimate the person’s height, also would be shorter in a person with Down syndrome, the researchers pointed out.

In this case, Eckhardt said that “unusual does not equal unique.”

“The originally reported traits are not so rare as to have required the invention of a new hominin species,” he added.

As opposed to the skeleton representing a “Hobbit”-like species, Ekhardt said they found the “less strained explanation is a developmental disorder.”

The findings were published this week in two papers in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/05/remember-the-hobbit-human-scientists-thought-they-found-well/

Im quite sure this goes on all the time in science

Major publisher retracts 43 scientific papers amid wider fake peer-review scandal

A major publisher of scholarly medical and science articles has retracted 43 papers because of “fabricated” peer reviews amid signs of a broader fake peer review racket affecting many more publications.

The publisher is BioMed Central, based in the United Kingdom, which puts out 277 peer-reviewed journals. A partial list of the retracted articles suggests most of them were written by scholars at universities in China, including China Medical University, Sichuan University, Shandong University and Jiaotong University Medical School. But Jigisha Patel, associate editorial director for research integrity at BioMed Central, said it’s not “a China problem. We get a lot of robust research of China. We see this as a broader problem of how scientists are judged.”

Meanwhile, the Committee on Publication Ethics, a multidisciplinary group that includes more than 9,000 journal editors, issued a statement suggesting a much broader potential problem. The committee, it said, “has become aware of systematic, inappropriate attempts to manipulate the peer review processes of several journals across different publishers.” Those journals are now reviewing manuscripts to determine how many may need to be retracted, it said.

Peer review is the vetting process designed to guarantee the integrity of scholarly articles by having experts read them and approve or disapprove them for publication. With researchers increasingly desperate for recognition, citations and professional advancement, the whole peer-review system has come under scrutiny in recent years for a host of flaws and irregularities, ranging from lackadaisical reviewing to cronyism to outright fraud.

Last year, in one of the most publicized scandals, the Journal of Vibration and Control, in the field of acoustics, retracted 60 articles at one time due to what it called a “peer review and citation ring” in which the reviews, mostly from scholars in Taiwan, were submitted by people using fake names.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/27/fabricated-peer-reviews-prompt-scientific-journal-to-retract-43-papers-systematic-scheme-may-affect-other-journals/?tid=pm_national_pop

Mosasaurs Birth Mystery solved

The latest evidence collected by intricate scientific means reveals that the birthing methods of prehistoric Mosasaurs were unique. These giant marine lizards gave birth to their young in the ocean waters.

Researchers from Yale University and the University of Toronto have found out via complex heuristicstHAT WORD MEANS WE JUST MADE STUFF UP that the huge marine lizards known as Mosasaurs that used to inhabit the oceans of prehistoric times employed singular habits of giving birth to their young.

These sea creatures, which could grow to 50 feet in length, produced young lizards in the ocean depths instead of on the sandy beaches. Mosasaurs lived 65 million years ago and are only found in fossil form today. The only tthing you can learn from a fossil is that it DIED. You cannot even tell if it gave birth or not

Heres where hey start a fairy tail
Their’s was the age of the dinosaurs when the saurians and terrible lizards roamed the earth’s dense jungles and swamps and mammals were about the size of tiny shrews. Mosasaurs were the rulers of the oceans during the Mesozoic Era and their birthing methods remained a mystery until recently when scientists joined heads and put two and two together.

Most of the baby Mosasaur fossils belonged to samples collected a century ago. Way back then due to ignorance they were thought to belong to prehistoric birds. But today with the progress of science and the advantage of hindsight we know better. :D

The species fossils were found in regions that had been oceanic in nature in prehistoric times. This gave the vital clue that was the missing piece in the jigsaw puzzle of the Mosasaur. Whatever the case, means we really do not know one thing is for sure and that is that these giant ocean-faring lizards didn’t lay eggs but gave birth to live young in the context of the expansive waters of the oceans.this is impossible to know from a fossil, you would have to actually be there

Thus there is now solid proof notice that the did not present ANY proof what so ever in the article so far that the birthing process of Mosasaurs was not in the usual manner thought of by past paleontologists and marine biologists. These gargantuan beasts of the subterranean depths were like snakes in their sinuousness and were flesh-eaters to boot. now he just made that up right there. :P

They were reptiles that grew to humongous sizes and were on the top of the food chain at least in the ocean waters that is. And they traversed the waters with agility and superior speed. They ate a Piscean diet that also included mollusks, turtles and giant prawns. NO WAY to know or prove any of that, but they didn't present any actual proof or evidence either.

They were vicious predators that could exert a tremendous pressure on their prey with their mandibles which were armed with pointed teeth. Today with our knowledge about these ancient creatures having undergone revision, the fields of paleontology and archaeology have been enriched for the better. :Dyep still lying and making stuff up

Read more at: http://tr.im/irkU9

Started reading a new book. Nasa Mooned America - Ralph Rene. I came accross this passage here.

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This book was originally written because in 1990 NASA intended to take us to Mars the
same way they allegedly took us to the Moon. The week before I finished this new edition
NASA bravely announced that Martian life was found on a rock they found in the Antarctic.
WOW! According to their professionals this rock had smashed into Antarctica 13,000 years
ago after being blasted off Mars 17-million years ago by a meteorite. Therefore, since
Antartica accretes ice at the rate of 2 feet per year they must have found it at the 26,000 foot
level- which is rather difficult to do, because there is only 10,000 feet of ice there.

To put the icing on the NASA fruitcake, about a week later some lady astronomer
announced that she had located the Martian crater from which it was blasted. This means that
although the rock was in space with an unstable orbit for 16,987,000 years (it hit us didn't it?)
she was able to calculate backwards from the landing site of that rock. For starters she had to
know the exact time, direction, and velocity of the landing. Sure she does!

I have never heard that before in association with that meteor rock. So i had to see if it was true.

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In September 2005, Vicky Hamilton of the University of Hawaii at Manoa presented an analysis of the origin of ALH84001 using data from the Mars Global Surveyor and Mars Odyssey spacecraft orbiting Mars. According to the analysis, Eos Chasma in the Valles Marineris canyon appears to be the source of the meteorite.[7] The analysis was not conclusive, in part because it was limited to areas of Mars not obscured by dust.

The theory holds that ALH84001 was blasted off from the surface of Mars by a meteorite impact about 17 million years ago[8] and fell on Earth roughly 13,000 years ago.[9] These dates were established by a variety of radiometric dating techniques, including samarium-neodymium (Sm-Nd), rubidium-strontium (Rb-Sr), potassium-argon (K-Ar), and carbon-14.[10][11] Other meteorites that have potential biological markings have generated less interest because they do not originate from a "wet" Mars. ALH84001 is the only meteorite collected from such a time period.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001

:D They actually have the nerve to say that. :D That is an impossibility! for starters, they say it blasted off of Mars 17 million years ago. ::) and she was able to back track its telemetry or something? right.... This is all 100% a fraud. period. Vicky Hamilton is a LIAR and a FRAUD. But i guess those are the only 2 credentials you need to be a scientist. ::)

3.3 million years old stone tools found in Kenya

3.3 million years!! They get that date from the geological column which some layer made up in the mid 1800's. It does not exist anywhere on the planet.

In an accidental discovery that will upturn many existing theories, scientists have found stone tools dating back 3.3 million years in northwestern Kenya, the oldest such artifacts yet discovered. This age is long before the advent of modern humans. The tools, whose makers may or may not have been some sort of human ancestor, push the known date of such tools back by 700,000 years. The discovery is described in a new paper published in the leading scientific journal Nature.

They find stuff like this all the time, its called OOPARTS

The discovery is the first evidence that an even earlier group of proto-humans may have had the thinking abilities needed to figure out how to make sharp-edged tools. The stone tools mark "a new beginning to the known archaeological record," say the authors of a new paper.

"The whole site's surprising, it just rewrites the book on a lot of things that we thought were true," said geologist Chris Lepre of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and Rutgers University, a co-author of the paper who precisely dated the artifacts.

The new find came about almost by accident: Harmand and Lewis said that on the morning of July 9, 2011, they had wandered off on the wrong path, and climbed a hill to scout a fresh route back to their intended track. They wrote that they "could feel that something was special about this particular place." They fanned out and surveyed a nearby patch of craggy outcrops. "By teatime," they wrote, "local Turkana tribesman Sammy Lokorodi had helped [us] spot what [we] had come searching for."

By the end of the 2012 field season, excavations at the site, named Lomekwi 3, had uncovered 149 stone artifacts tied to tool-making, from stone cores and flakes to rocks used for hammering and others possibly used as anvils to strike on.

The tools "shed light on an unexpected and previously unknown period of hominin behavior and can tell us a lot about cognitive development in our ancestors that we can't understand from fossils alone," said lead author Sonia Harmand, of the Turkana Basin Institute at Stony Brook University and the Universite? Paris Ouest Nanterre.

Hominins are a group of species that includes modern humans, Homo sapiens, and our closest evolutionary ancestors. Anthropologists long thought that our relatives in the genus Homo - the line leading directly to Homo sapiens - were the first to craft such stone tools. But researchers have been uncovering tantalizing clues that some other, earlier species of hominin, might have figured it out.

The researchers do not know who made these oldest of tools. But earlier finds suggest a possible answer: The skull of a 3.3-million-year-old hominin, Kenyanthropus platytops, was found in 1999 about a kilometer from the tool site. A K. platyops tooth and a bone from a skull were discovered a few hundred meters away, and an as-yet unidentified tooth has been found about 100 meters away.

You cannot put the skull, a bone and a tooth together what so ever. But this is what they do all the time. these things were found a kilometer apart. ::)

The precise family tree of modern humans is contentious, and so far, no one knows exactly how K. platyops relates to other hominin species. Kenyanthropus predates the earliest known Homo species by a half a million years. This species could have made the tools; or, the toolmaker could have been some other species from the same era, such as Australopithecus afarensis, or an as-yet undiscovered early type of Homo.

This section is total propaganda.

Lepre said a layer of volcanic ash below the tool site set a "floor" on the site's age: It matched ash elsewhere that had been dated to about 3.3 million years ago, based on the ratio of argon isotopes in the material. To more sharply define the time period of the tools, Lepre and co-author and Lamont-Doherty colleague Dennis Kent examined magnetic minerals beneath, around and above the spots where the tools were found.

They used K to Ar dating to get this age. This test is 100% false 100% of the time if you know how old the ash or volcanic rock is. PERIOD. Every time K to Ar is used it is a failure.

Lepre's wife and another co-author, Rhoda Quinn of Rutgers, studied carbon isotopes in the soil, which along with animal fossils at the site allowed researchers to reconstruct the area's vegetation. This led to another surprise: The area was at that time a partially wooded, shrubby environment. Conventional thinking has been that sophisticated tool-making came in response to a change in climate that led to the spread of broad savannah grasslands, and the consequent evolution of large groups of animals that could serve as a source of food for human ancestors.
along with animal fossils that means they also dated it by the fossils in the geological column, which dates the rock layers. This is circular reasoning.

One line of thinking is that hominins started knapping - banging one rock against another to make sharp-edged stones - so they could cut meat off of animal carcasses, said paper co-author Jason Lewis of the Turkana Basin Institute and Rutgers. But the size and markings of the newly discovered tools "suggest they were doing something different as well, especially if they were in a more wooded environment with access to various plant resources," Lewis said. The researchers think the tools could have been used for breaking open nuts or tubers, bashing open dead logs to get at insects inside, or maybe something not yet thought of.

They just made that stuff now

Earlier dating work by Lepre and Kent helped lead to another landmark paper in 2011: a study that suggested Homo erectus, another precursor to modern humans, was using more advanced tool-making methods 1.8 million years ago, at least 300,000 years earlier than previously thought.
Again pushing false dating to push the agenda of million of years.

"I realized when you [figure out] these things, you don't solve anything, you just open up new questions," said Lepre. "I get excited, then realize there's a lot more work to do."

I realize that when you tell lies your gonna get caught.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/3-3-million-years-old-stone-tools-found-in-Kenya/articleshow/47369772.cms

Chimps have mental skills to cook: study

They're not likely to start barbecuing in the rainforest, but chimpanzees can understand the concept of cooking and are willing to postpone eating raw food, even carrying food some distance to cook it rather than eat immediately, scientists reported on Tuesday.

The findings, based on nine experiments conducted at the Tchimpounga Sanctuary in Republic of Congo and published in Proceedings of the Royal Society B, suggest that chimps have all the brainpower needed to cook, including planning, causal understanding, and ability to postpone gratification.

They do lack the ability to produce fire. But if they were given a source of heat, chimps "might be quite able to manipulate (it) to cook," said developmental psychologist Felix Warneken of Harvard University, who conducted the study with Alexandra Rosati.

"might be quite able to manipulate (it) to cook," So they cant actually cook.

Whilst the finding may seem esoteric, it lends support to the idea that cooking accelerated human evolution.Well there is the crux of this whole article. Cooked food is easier to digest, spurring the growth of large brains in our australopithecine ancestors,Never existed Harvard's Richard Wrangham proposed about a decade ago.

If chimps have the cognitive skills to cook,But you just said they didnt above, you stated they MIGHT be ABLE to Manipulate it, that isnt proof. australopithecines likely did, too,NO PROOF, just made that up said Wrangham, who was not involved in the study: :D "It suggests that with a little extra brainpower, australopithecines could indeed have found a way to use fire to cook food." Chimps cant make fire, already established in the article.

Archaeological evidence suggests humans began using fire 1 million years ago. NO proof of that what so ever.

Some of the experiments confirmed studies by other scientists, such as that chimps prefer seared sweet potatoes to raw. But those tests did not test whether chimps have the mental chops to cook. Neither did this study. no chimps were actually cooking anything.

Other tests did. For instance, the scientists presented chimps with two containers. One yielded cooked food through a false bottom, not actually cooking, and one did not.

The chimps learned that one transforms potatoes from raw to cooked. Given a choice of which device to put food in, they almost always opted for the "cooker," showing they understood and willingly waited for the raw-to-cooked transformation.That isnt evidence of cooking! A dog can perform the same thing and will almost likely prefer the cooked food over the non cooked food. Does that mean a dog can cook?

Chimps did not put pieces of wood that scientists gave them into the cooker, suggesting they grasped that only food can be cooked. Wow, this must have been a government study.

Surprisingly, since chimps usually eat food immediately, they were often willing to walk across a room to cook. When the first one did this, the scientists wondered if they had a single "chimpanzee genius," Warneken said. But others showed the same ability, understanding the idea of cooking and postponing gratification to do it.

Serious? ever hear of monkey see monkey do? Also we have been training chips for years. They star in their own TV shows. So is this really evidence of cooking? NO a chimp put food given to it in a box and cooked food comes out. Of course its going to prefer the cooked food. This isnt evidence of cooking or evolution.

There was no evidence, however, that they understood the concept of tipping. There is no evidence from this highly controlled test that chimps can cook. This article is a total lie and fraudulent. BUT hey this is modern science.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chimps-mental-skills-cook-study-230355185.html#pT9HoQ6

Alien Life on a Comet? Microbe Musings About Philae Spark Skepticism

The comet under study by the European Space Agency's Rosetta spacecraft and Philae lander is the latest target for claims about the possibility of alien life -- but those claims have already been met with skepticism.

The spark for the controversy came on Monday in the form of a presentation at the National Astronomy Meeting, held this week in Wales. And one of the instigators is a well-known figure in the debate over extraterrestrial life, Chandra Wickramasinghe, director of the Buckingham Center for Astrobiology.

He and a colleague, Max Wallis of the University of Cardiff in Wales, contend that characteristics of the dark, carbon-containing crust and underlying ice on Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko are consistent with an environment that could harbor microbes. Rosetta has been flying near the comet since last August, and in November it sent out Philae to make an unprecedented landing on the surface.

"Rosetta has already shown that the comet is not to be seen as a deep-frozen inactive body, but supports geological processes and could be more hospitable to micro-life than our Arctic and Antarctic regions," Wallis said in a news release.

He and Wickramasinghe speculated that any microbial communities on the comet should become more active as the comet approaches the sun and warms up. "If the Rosetta orbiter has found evidence of life on the comet, it would be a fitting tribute to mark the centenary of the birth of Sir Fred Hoyle, one of the undisputable pioneers of astrobiology," Wickramasinghe said.

This week's presentation follows up on similar claims made in a research paper published months ago in the Journal of Astrobiology & Outreach. In that paper, Wallis and Wickramasinghe make the astrobiology connection based on the look of features observed on the comet's surface, rather than on any chemical analysis sent back by the Philae lander.

This isn't the first time Wallis and Wickramasinghe have made bold claims about life from space. Back in 2003, they contended that microbes could survive being blasted into space by an asteroid or comet impact. Wickramasinghe also has suggested that the SARS virus could have come from outer space, and that a meteor explosion was behind the weird red color in rain that fell on a region of southern India in 2001. (An Indian government report determined that the red stuff came from algal spores.)

That background, plus an alternate reading of the evidence from Rosetta, led University of Twente physicist Chris Lee to brand the latest claims from Wallis and Wickramasinghe as "breathtakingly stupid." :D

On his Ars Technica blog, Lee said the buildup of carbon on Churyumov-Gerasimenko's surface is a well-known physical phenomenon that doesn't require biology. All you'd need to do is subject the frozen water and the organic molecules in the comet to the sun's radiation during the approach, he said.

"With such a reactive mix, almost any carbon layer with any structure you care to think of can and will form," Lee wrote. His prediction? "This claim will vanish, never to be heard from again."

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/alien-life-comet-microbe-musings-about-philae-spark-skepticism-n387516

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html
Flood Legends From Around the World

Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Perhaps the second most important historical account of a global flood can be found in a Babylonian flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh. When the Biblical and Babylonian accounts are compared, a number of outstanding similarities are found that leave no doubt these stories are rooted in the same event or oral tradition.

(http://www.nwcreation.net/images/flood_traditions.jpg)

Example Flood Legends From Around the World
Africa
Southwest Tanzania
Once upon a time the rivers began to flood. The god told two people to get into a ship. He told them to take lots of seed and to take lots of animals. The water of the flood eventually covered the mountains. Finally the flood stopped. Then one of the men, wanting to know if the water had dried up let a dove loose. The dove returned. Later he let loose a hawk which did not return. Then the men left the boat and took the animals and the seeds with them.

Asia
China
The Chinese classic called the Hihking tells about "the family of Fuhi," that was saved from a great flood. This ancient story tells that the entire land was flooded; the mountains and everything, however one family survived in a boat. The Chinese consider this man the father of their civilization. This record indicates that Fuhi, his wife, three sons, and three daughters were the only people that escaped the great flood. It is claimed, that he and his family were the only people alive on earth, and repopulated the world.

Babylon
Gilgamesh met an old man named Utnapishtim, who told him the following story. The gods came to Utnapishtim to warn him about a terrible flood that was coming. They instructed Utnapishtim to destroy his house and build a large ship. The ship was to be 10 dozen cubits high, wide and long. Utnapishtim was to cover the ship with pitch. He was supposed to take male and female animals of all kinds, his wife and family, provisions, etc. into the ship. Once ship was completed the rain began falling intensely. The rain fell for six days and nights. Finally things calmed and the ship settled on the top of Mount Nisir. After the ship had rested for seven days Utnapishtim let loose a dove. Since the land had not dried the dove returned. Next he sent a swallow which also returned. Later he let loose a raven which never returned since the ground had dried. Utnapishtim then left the ship.

Chaldean
There was a man by the name of Xisuthrus. The god Chronos warned Xisuthrus of a coming flood and told him to build a boat. The boat was to be 5 stadia by 2 stadia. In this boat Xisuthrus was to put his family, friends and two of each animal (male and female). The flood came. When the waters started to recede he let some birds loose. They came back and he noticed they had mud on their feet. He tried again with the same results. When he tried the third time the birds did not return. Assuming the water had dried up the people got out of the boat and offered sacrifices to the gods.

India
A long time ago lived a man named Manu. Manu, while washing himself, saved a small fish from the jaws of a large fish. The fish told Manu, "If you care for me until I am full grown I will save you from terrible things to come". Manu asked what kind of terrible things. The fish told Manu that a great flood would soon come and destroy everything on the earth. The fish told Manu to put him in a clay jar for protection. The fish grew and each time he outgrew the clay jar Manu gave him a larger one. Finally the fish became a ghasha, one of the largest fish in the world. The fish instructed Manu to build a large ship since the flood was going to happen very soon. As the rains started Manu tied a rope from the ship to the ghasha. The fish guided the ship as the waters rose. The whole earth was covered by water. When the waters began subsiding the ghasha led Manu's ship to a mountaintop.

Australia
There is a legend of a flood called the Dreamtime flood. Riding on this flood was the woramba, or the Ark Gumana. In this ark was Noah, Aborigines, and various animals. This ark eventually came to rest in the plain of Djilinbadu where it can still be found. They claim that the white mans story about the ark landing in the middle east is a lie that was started to keep the aborigines in subservience. This legend is undoubtedly the product of aboriginal legends merging with those of visiting missionaries, and there does not appear to be any native flood stories from Australia.

Europe
Greece
A long time ago, perhaps before the golden age was over, humans became proud. This bothered Zeus as they kept getting worse. Finally Zeus decided that he would destroy all humans. Before he did this Prometheus, the creator of humans, warned his human son Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha. Prometheus then placed this couple in a large wooden chest. The rains started and lasted nine days and nights until the whole world was flooded. The only thing that was not flooded was the peaks of Mount Parnassus and Mount Olympus. Mount Olympus is the home of the gods. The wooden chest came to rest on Mount Parnassus. Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha got out and saw that everything was flooded. They lived on provisions from the chest until the waters subsided. At Zeus' instruction they re-populated the earth.

North America
Mexico
The Toltec natives have a legend telling that the original creation lasted for 1716 years, and was destroyed by a flood and only one family survived.

Aztec- A man named Tapi lived a long time ago. Tapi was a very pious man. The creator told Tapi to build a boat that he would live in. He was told that he should take his wife, a pair of every animal that was alive into this boat. Naturally everyone thought he was crazy. Then the rain started and the flood came. The men and animals tried to climb the mountains but the mountains became flooded as well. Finally the rain ended. Tapi decided that the water had dried up when he let a dove loose that did not return.

United States
The Ojibwe natives who have lived in Minnesota USA since approximately 1400AD also have a creation and flood story that closely parallels the Biblical account. "There came a time when the harmonious way of life did not continue. Men and women disrespected each other, families quarreled and soon villages began arguing back and forth. This saddened Gitchie Manido [the Creator] greatly, but he waited. Finally, when it seemed there was no hope left, Creator decided to purify Mother Earth through the use of water. The water came, flooding the Earth, catching all of creation off guard. All but a few of each living thing survived." Then it tells how Waynaboozhoo survived by floating on a log in the water with various animals.
Ojibwe - Ancient native American creation story tells of world wide flood.

Delaware Indians - In the pristine age, the world lived at peace; but an evil spirit came and caused a great flood. The earth was submerged. A few persons had taken refuge on the back of a turtle, so old that his shell had collected moss. A loon flew over their heads and was entreated to dive beneath the water and bring up land. It found only a bottomless sea. Then the bird flew far away, came back with a small portion of earth in its bill, and guided the tortoise to a place where there was a spot of dry land.

South America
Inca
During the period of time called the Pachachama people became very evil. They got so busy coming up with and performing evil deeds they neglected the gods. Only those in the high Andes remained uncorrupted. Two brothers who lived in the highlands noticed their llamas acting strangely. They asked the llamas why and were told that the stars had told the llamas that a great flood was coming. This flood would destroy all the life on earth. The brothers took their families and flocks into a cave on the high mountains. It started to rain and continued for four months. As the water rose the mountain grew keeping its top above the water. Eventually the rain stopped and the waters receded. The mountain returned to its original height. The shepherds repopulated the earth. The llamas remembered the flood and that is why they prefer to live in the highland areas.

Quote from: 1st Timothy 6:13-14 on July 17, 2015, 10:36:37 am

Yes - b/c I had no idea(until a brother showed me this yesterday) that over the many years, there's been many other idle, albeit crafty tales over what the global flood was - which ended up making non-believers, evolutionists, etc using this as a strawman argument against Noah's global flood.. Come to think of it, when I was a young boy, I remember hearing alot of them.

Which is why I thought this goes in this thread.

Actually after a full examination of the flood myths around the world, it shows that they have more in common than against. What this shows is a common original story, IE the actual flood story that was taken and dispersed around the world. Because the commonality is so strong that most creationist use that as a way to actually show that the flood story from the Bible is true. Heck its even integrated in the original Chinese Language.

Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood?
by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
Evidence for Creation › Evidence from Science › Evidence from the Earth Sciences › The Global Flood Is the Key to the Past › Geological Evidence Indicates Rapid Formation

"Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?" (I Corinthians 1:20)

One of the strongest evidences for the global flood which annihilated all people on Earth except for Noah and his family, has been the ubiquitous presence of flood legends in the folklore of people groups from around the world. And the stories are all so similar. Local geography and cultural aspects may be present but they all seem to be telling the same story.

Over the years I have collected more than 200 of these stories, originally reported by various missionaries, anthropologists, and ethnologists.

While the differences are not always trivial, the common essence of the stories is instructive as compiled below:

Is there a favored family? 88%
Were they forewarned? 66%
Is flood due to wickedness of man? 66%
Is catastrophe only a flood? 95%
Was flood global? 95%
Is survival due to a boat? 70%
Were animals also saved? 67%
Did animals play any part? 73%
Did survivors land on a mountain? 57%
Was the geography local? 82%
Were birds sent out? 35%
Was the rainbow mentioned? 7%
Did survivors offer a sacrifice? 13%
Were specifically eight persons saved? 9%

Putting them all back together, the story would read something like this:

Once there was a worldwide flood, sent by God to judge the wickedness of man. But there was one righteous family which was forewarned of the coming flood. They built a boat on which they survived the flood along with the animals. As the flood ended, their boat landed on a high mountain from which they descended and repopulated the whole earth.

Of course the story sounds much like the Biblical story of the great flood of Noah's day. The most similar accounts are typically from middle eastern cultures, but surprisingly similar legends are found in South America and the Pacific Islands and elsewhere. None of these stories contains the beauty, clarity, and believable detail given in the Bible, but each is meaningful to their own culture.

Anthropologists will tell you that a myth is often the faded memory of a real event. Details may have been added, lost, or obscured in the telling and retelling, but the kernel of truth remains. When two separate cultures have the same "myth" in their body of folklore, their ancestors must have either experienced the same event, or they both descended from a common ancestral source which itself experienced the event.

The only credible way to understand the widespread, similar flood legends is to recognize that all people living today, even though separated geographically, linguistically, and culturally, have descended from the few real people who survived a real global flood, on a real boat which eventually landed on a real mountain. Their descendants now fill the globe, never to forget the real event.

But, of course, this is not the view of most modern scholars. They prefer to believe that something in our commonly evolved psyche forces each culture to invent the same imaginary flood legend with no basis in real history. Instead of scholarship, this is "willful ignorance" of the fact that "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:5,6).

http://www.icr.org/article/why-does-nearly-every-culture-have-tradition-globa/

The Evidence of Genesis in the Chinese Language

http://www.jdaniellowe.com/china.html

Quote from: Mark on July 17, 2015, 04:05:09 pm

Anthropologists will tell you that a myth is often the faded memory of a real event. Details may have been added, lost, or obscured in the telling and retelling, but the kernel of truth remains. When two separate cultures have the same "myth" in their body of folklore, their ancestors must have either experienced the same event, or they both descended from a common ancestral source which itself experienced the event.

The only credible way to understand the widespread, similar flood legends is to recognize that all people living today, even though separated geographically, linguistically, and culturally, have descended from the few real people who survived a real global flood, on a real boat which eventually landed on a real mountain. Their descendants now fill the globe, never to forget the real event.

But, of course, this is not the view of most modern scholars. They prefer to believe that something in our commonly evolved psyche forces each culture to invent the same imaginary flood legend with no basis in real history. Instead of scholarship, this is "willful ignorance" of the fact that "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:5,6).

http://www.icr.org/article/why-does-nearly-every-culture-have-tradition-globa/

Genesis 10:1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
Gen 10:3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Gen 10:4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
Gen 10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
Gen 10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
Gen 10:7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
Gen 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
Gen 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.
Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
Gen 10:11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
Gen 10:12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.
Gen 10:13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,
Gen 10:14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.
Gen 10:15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,
Gen 10:16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
Gen 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
Gen 10:18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
Gen 10:19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.
Gen 10:20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Gen 10:21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.
Gen 10:22 The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.
Gen 10:23 And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Gen 10:24 And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.
Gen 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
Gen 10:26 And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,
Gen 10:27 And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,
Gen 10:28 And Obal, and Abimael, and Sheba,
Gen 10:29 And Ophir, and Havilah, and Jobab: all these were the sons of Joktan.
Gen 10:30 And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar a mount of the east.
Gen 10:31 These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.
Gen 10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.

It is total 100% non scientific stuff like this that really irritates me. >:(

Reptile Fossil Explains How Snakes Lost Their Legs: Study

So you think from a title like that, that we are in for a treat...

When and how did snakes lose their limbs? A fresh analysis of a reptile fossil is helping scientists solve this evolutionary puzzle.

Lets set the record right off here. They are using a fossil, IE: A ROCK

A 90 million-year-old skull is giving researchers vital clues about how snakes evolved. Comparisons between CT scans of the fossil and modern reptiles indicate that snakes lost their legs when their ancestors evolved to live and hunt in burrows, which many snakes still do today.

90 million year's? How did they arrive at that date? Also they are saying they can tell from the fossil skull that snakes lost their legs when they learned to hunt in burrows. Seriously where is the evidence for that? They only thing you can ever know about a fossil is that the animal died.

"How snakes lost their legs has long been a mystery to scientists, but it seems that this happened when their ancestors became adept at burrowing," said lead researcher Hongyu Yi from University of Edinburgh.

Where is the evidence?

The findings show snakes did not lose their limbs in order to live in the sea, as was previously suggested.

wait what? how did we go from burrows to living in the sea?

Scientists used CT scans to examine the bony inner ear of Dinilysia patagonica, a 2-metre long reptile closely linked to modern snakes.

They are using the inner ear, that looks almost like a modern snakes to say this is how they lost their legs?

These bony canals and cavities, like those in the ears of modern burrowing snakes, controlled its hearing and balance.

Yep, that is what they are saying, and hopefully no one is actually paying attention to this. balance? really? its a snake, what is it going to roll over?

They built 3D virtual models to compare the inner ears of the fossils with those of modern lizards and snakes.

Why are lizards in this now? :D they are just making stuff up at this point.

Researchers found a distinctive structure within the inner ear of animals that actively burrow, which may help them detect prey and predators.

I bet all snakes have this, oh well apparently they did and still do.

This shape was not present in modern snakes that live in water or above ground.

So then this whole story is BS right? If snakes lost their legs so they could hunt in burrows than how come all snakes don't have this? woops...looks like a problem

The findings help scientists fill gaps in the story of snake evolution, and confirm Dinilysia patagonica as the largest burrowing snake ever known.

How did this fill in any gaps on how a snake lost its legs? You just said only certain snakes have this not all.

They also offer clues about a hypothetical ancestral species from which all modern snakes descended, which was likely a burrower.

What? hypothetical ancestral species Are we talking dragons? :D This means we can just make stuff up

The study was published in the journal Science Advances.

Wonder how redacted stories that rag has?

Look snakes don't have legs. You cant look at something that only certain kinds of snakes have and that MOST don't and say hey we found why snakes lost their legs. When you offered no evidence for it what so ever.

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/reptile-fossil-explains-how-snakes-lost-their-legs-study-1248878

Dinosaurs evolved with shocking speed, study finds

So fast its like it never happened. :D

A new study suggests that dinosaurs might have evolved more rapidly than we'd thought, emerging less than 5 million years after so-called "pre-dinosaurs" hit the scene. That shaves about 10 million years off the previous evolutionary time line.
it only changes every other 10 million years or so

The paper published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences revisits the age of some important early dinosaur fossils.
Wonder how many articles they have fabricated? Look into fraud by "science" papers

The researchers, led by University of Buenos Aires paleontologist Claudia Marsicano, suggest that these vital fossils - found in the Chañares Formation in Argentina - have previously been misdated.

Well considering that you cant date anything, yah, i bet they have

The Chañares is important because it features fossils from dinosaurs as well as dinosauromorphs from earlier in evolutionary history, so researchers can track their evolutionary time line.

Similar to dinosaurs

These dinosauromorphs were generally on the small side, but otherwise quite similar to the dinosaurs we're all familiar with - with a few important exceptions. Most notably, the earlier creatures lacked the ball-and-socket hips of later dinosaurs. While they coexisted for millions of years, true dinosaurs would eventually outcompete their predecessors.

Inside the rocks of the Chañares, paleontologists can watch the whole thing go down.

The only thing a fossil can ever tell you is that it died, and buried by WATER

"In other basins, a basin is where water collects. ;) dinosaur precursors, early dinosaurs and faunas dominated by dinosaurs do not all conveniently exist in the same place. In the basin containing the Chañares Formation, you can follow hundreds of meters of sediments back through time," Marsicano said in a statement. "Because of this, the margin of error is very narrow because you can see the complete history all in one basin."
follow hundreds of meters of sediments their is that geological column that doesn't exist.

Uranium's decay

To get the most accurate dating for the rocks holding these fossils, Marsicano and her team took samples from the basin and crushed them to extract zircon crystals left behind by volcanic eruptions. They then measured the precise ratio of uranium to lead in the crystals. Because the uranium in these crystals decays into lead over time at a known rate, the researchers could date them exactly based on the ratio of the two elements.

Radiometric dating does not work, proven fraud.

And since the Chañares has been shown to be 5 million to 10 million years younger than previously thought, pre-dinosaurs have as well. That gives dinosaurs a lot less time to show up, but they managed it anyway.

"They appear and they start to diversify quite rapidly," Marsicano told Nature Magazine. "They evolved quite successfully."

Its almost as if God made them just whole complete and functioning

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20151209_Dinosaurs_evolved_with_shocking_speed__study_finds.html#uPizRstvHLLZZtZH.99

:D This is so much a fake that i honestly really cant even comment on it. I cant believe people are even buying into this.

Ancient Tablet Looks Like Cell Phone With Cuneiform Keys

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seriously!! thats a UFO drawn onto the screen. :D

Archaeologists digging in Austria found an ancient clay tablet that looks like a cell or cordless phone with keys etched with cuneiform characters that would imply it originally came from Mesopotamia. What is it? Is it evidence of an advanced civilization or time travel?

The tablet was reportedly found earlier this year by archaeologists digging in Fuschl am See, a city in the Austrian state of Salzburg. There’s not much information on what the researchers were digging for in this region but it probably wasn’t cuneiform tablets. Yet that’s what they found. Even more shocking, the tablet strongly resembles the cell phones they were most likely using to take pictures of it.

The tablet was dated to around the 13th century BCE. By that time, the Sumerian writing style known as cuneiform had already been around for a few thousand years. Cuneiform tablets aren’t unusual – an estimated 2 million have been excavated. The language was a mystery until the 19th century when its code was deciphered.

However, this particular tablet is unusual for a number of reasons. First, it was found in Austria, not Iran or one of the other modern countries that was once Sumer or Mesopotamia. The only cuneiform object found further away from there is the controversial Fuente Magna Bowl, which was discovered in Tiahuanaco in modern-day Bolivia. Since there’s no evidence that the Sumerians visited this ancient pre-Columbian city, how did the bowl or the knowledge of cuneiform get there?

By cell phone, of course! A controversial theory proposed by author Zecharia Sitchin is that aliens known as the Anunnaki came from Nibiru (the rumored Planet X beyond Neptune) and created the Sumerian civilization. The tablet looks surprisingly like a modern phone, with the 12 keys, a display and a ‘talk’ button. Could these extraterrestrials have tried to introduce the Sumerians to a phone-like communications device, only to find they weren’t ready for it and dialed them back to a stylus and clay tablets?

It would be interesting if some cuneiform expert could translate the characters on the ancient phone (unfortunately, Google translate does not yet recognize cuneiform).
Did some Anunnaki accidentally leave his phone in Austria? Probably not. The archaeologists believe the tablet was most likely brought there by traders from Earth.
Is the tablet’s resemblance to a modern cell phone just an odd coincidence, a hoax or evidence of time travel or alien contact? If only some phone hacker knew cuneiform.

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/12/ancient-tablet-looks-like-cell-phone-with-cuneiform-keys/

Asymmetric molecule, key to life, detected in space for first time

Scientists for the first time have found a complex organic molecule in space that bears the same asymmetric structure as molecules that are key to life on Earth.

The researchers said on Tuesday they detected the complex organic molecule called propylene oxide in a giant cloud of gas and dust near the center of the Milky Way galaxy.

Akin to a pair of human hands, certain organic molecules including propylene oxide possess mirror-like versions of themselves, a chemical property called chirality. Scientists have long pondered why living things make use of only one version of certain molecules, such as the "right-handed" form of the sugar ribose, which is the backbone of DNA.

The discovery of propylene oxide in space boosts theories that chirality has cosmic origins.

"It is a pioneering leap forward in our understanding of how prebiotic molecules are made in the universe and the effects they may have on the origins of life," chemist Brett McGuire of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Charlottesville, Virginia said in a statement.

These types of molecules, vital for biology, previously have been discovered in meteorites on Earth and in comets in our own solar system but never before in the enormous expanse of interstellar space.

The findings boost the notion that the chemical building blocks for life were delivered to Earth early in its history by celestial bodies like meteorites and comets that incorporated such molecules from space.

In May, researchers for the first time found the amino acid glycine, used by living organisms to make proteins, on a comet.

The scientists in the new study used radio telescopes to ferret out the chemical details of molecules in the distant, star-forming cloud of gas and dust. As molecules move around in the vacuum of space they emit telltale vibrations that appear as distinctive radio waves.

The complex signals tied to propylene oxide were not precise enough for the researchers to determine whether the molecules were orientated to the left or to the right.

Like a hand's shadow, "it's impossible to tell if the left or the right hand is casting the shadow," said California Institute of Technology chemistry graduate student Brandon Carroll.

Future studies of how polarized light interacts with the molecules may reveal if one version of propylene oxide dominates in space, the researchers said.

The research was published in the journal Science. The scientists presented it on Tuesday at the American Astronomical Society meeting in San Diego.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/asymmetric-molecule-key-life-detected-space-1st-time-181645512.html

It is dang near impossible to do this on Earth with very powerful tools. To do this in space, near the center of the Milky Way ::) is an IMPOSSIBLE FEAT!! And with using a radio telescope at that. They dont work that way!! This story is false on every level and is pointing to life began in space, not from God.

Quote from: Mark on August 05, 2014, 10:22:43 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EroHaUtQYw

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full episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGHOkeEaAWA

ANCIENT HUMAN ANCESTOR WAS ONE TALL DUDE, HIS FOOTPRINTS SAY

He stood a majestic 5-foot-5, weighed around 100 pounds and maybe had a harem. That's what scientists figure from the footprints he left behind some 3.7 million year ago.

How can you tell this guy had a harem of women just from footprints? They just made that up. Seriously they just made that up!

He's evidently the tallest known member of the prehuman species best known for the fossil skeleton nicknamed "Lucy," reaching a stature no other member of our family tree matched for another 1.5 million years, the researchers say.

Again stating facts on something they have no evidence for. Also Lucy was a fraud, 2 separate animals the guy put together.

The 13 footprints are impressions left in volcanic ash that later hardened into rock, excavated last year in northern Tanzania in Africa. Their comparatively large size, averaging a bit over 10 inches long (26 centimeters), suggest they were made by a male member of the species known as Australopithecus afarensis.

How do they know it was a male? Could have been a woman... ::) More conjecture with out evidence.

The prints were found at a site called Laetoli, which is famous for another set of smaller footprints left by other A. afarensis individuals. Those made headlines in the 1970s as the earliest clear evidence of upright walking by our ancestors. The newly discovered prints are only about 160 yards (150 meters) away.

Al that evidence shows is that some one walked there. That is it, you cannot get anything else from footprints.

Researchers named the new creature S1, for the first discovery made at the "S'' site. From the footprints, they calculated that he stood about 5-foot-5 (roughly 165 centimeters) and weighed around 100 pounds (about 45 kilograms).

They figured that he loomed at least 8 inches (more than 20 centimeters) above the individuals who made the other tracks, and stood maybe 3 inches (7 centimeters) taller than a large A. afarensis specimen previously found in Ethiopia. "Lucy", also from Ethiopia, was much shorter at about 3 ½ feet (107 centimeters).

The findings are described in a report released Wednesday by the journal eLife. Authors include Giorgio Manzi of Sapienza University in Rome, Marco Cherin of the University of Perugia in Italy, and others.

Nobody knows the ages or sexes of any of the track-makers, So why are you claiming to know that? although the size of the latest footprints suggest they were made by a male. It's quite possible that the new discovery means A. afarensis males were a lot bigger than females, with more of a difference than what is seen in modern humans, the researchers say. That's not a new idea, but it's still under debate.

They just reversed themselves :D this story is so fake. FAKE NEWS here

The large male-female disparity suggests A. afarensis may have had a gorilla-like social arrangement of one dominant male with a group of females and their offspring, the researchers said.

Again no proof what so ever

But not everybody agrees with their analysis of S1's height.

Well DUH!! Who could agree with any of that? Hey we have some foot prints here. This was clearly a tall guy and he had a harem of wives. really?

Their estimate is suspect, says anthropologist William Jungers, a research associate at the Association Vahatra in Madagascar who wrote a commentary on the study. That's because scientists haven't recovered enough of an A. afarensis foot to reliably calculate height from footprints, he said in an email.

Philip Reno, an assistant anthropology professor at Penn State who didn't participate in the new work, said he believed the height estimate was in the right ballpark. But he's not convinced that S1 was really taller than the large Ethiopian A. afarensis.

So rather than setting a record, "I think it confirms about the size we thought the big specimens were," Reno said.

Manzi and Cherin said they can't be sure S1 was taller than the Ethiopian specimen. "We only suggest," they wrote in an email.

I say its all malarky ;D

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_ANCIENT_FOOTPRINTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-14-12-12-03

Perplexed Scientists Think C-Sections During Childbirth Are Affecting Human Evolution

:D

Why is obstructed labor such a common complication during human childbirth? A team of evolutionary scientists thinks recent human evolution and the modern practice of childbirth via C-section contribute to the problem.

Obstructed labor happens when a baby is unable to smoothly pass from the mother’s womb through the birth canal. A major cause of both maternal and newborn morbidity and mortality, obstructed labor is especially common in poorer countries and results in thousands of deaths each year.

From an evolutionary perspective, the prevalence of obstructed labor is puzzling, especially because it is more common in humans than in primates. Why has the human body not evolved to fix the problem? Shouldn’t natural selection favor women with larger pelvic dimensions, thus making childbirth easier and safer?

Because how does that effect the child? It doesn't, not at all. That is the same as taking a dog and tossing it off a cliff and wondering why its pups do not develop wings.

“Compared with other primates, human childbirth is difficult because the fetus is large relative to the maternal pelvic canal,” wrote a team of American and Austrian scientists in a journal article recently published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). “It is a long-standing evolutionary puzzle why the pelvis has not evolved to be wider, thus reducing the risk of obstructed labor.”

Some scientists believe the human pelvis has not evolved to be wider because that would make walking more difficult. However, the researchers writing in PNAS say “the biomechanical benefit of a narrow pelvis presumably is small.” In other words, the major advantages of having a larger pelvis outweigh any minor disadvantages it may cause.

Why then, if evolution is true, have humans not evolved wider pelvises? To address this quandary, the researchers turned to Caesarean sections. Caesarean sections, commonly known as C-sections, are an increasingly common procedure, with about one in three babies born in the U.S. delivered via C-section.

“In industrialized countries, Caesarean sections have minimized maternal mortality due to obstructed labor,” the scientists wrote in their paper.

Because C-sections make possible the safe delivery of large babies that would otherwise be unable to fit through their mothers’ birth canal, the scientists who wrote the PNAS paper believe that C-sections’ popularity is affecting human evolution.

“Our model does not specify the origin of these selective forces, but we found evidence in the medical literature for a reproductive advantage of both large neonates and women with a narrow pelvis, independent of putative biomechanical advantages,” they wrote. “We predict that this weak directional selection has led to a 10 to 20% increase in the rate of fetopelvic disproportion since the regular use of Caesarean sections.”

Scientists who reject the Darwinian model agree that creatures can adapt to their environments to a certain extent. However, they also point out the limits of natural selection.

“It cannot be stressed enough that what natural selection actually does is get rid of information,” wrote Carl Wieland in an article published on Creation.com. “It is not capable of creating anything new.”

“In such an information-losing process, there is automatically a limit to variation, as gene pools cannot keep on losing their information indefinitely,” he continued. “[N]atural selection is a far cry from the creative, ‘uphill,’ limitless process imagined by Darwin.”

http://christiannews.net/2016/12/19/perplexed-scientists-think-c-sections-during-childbirth-are-affecting-human-evolution/

I read a lot of news stories. And i comment on a lot of the fake news out there. But this one right here has to be the worst sciene story i have ever read. Nothing in this article can be proven. Not one bit. This whole story is a 100% total fraud

Volcano On Mars Continuously Erupted For Two Billion Years

??? We cannot tell how old anything is on Earth, but now they are claiming to be able to do it on a planet we have never been to.

A meteorite discovered in Algeria in 2012 has led scientists to conclude that a volcano had erupted in Mars continuously for 2 billion years.
Ohh, so this isnt even a Mars rock, just a rock they found and claim is from Mars. Sorry but how do you prove that? Maybe with a double negative.

Mars has been host to several volcanoes and also houses the largest volcano of our solar system, the Olympus Mons.
That is a true statement so far.

Study of the meteorite led the researchers to believe that a volcano did exist on the Red Planet, which erupted continuously for 2 billion years.
Sorry but there is no way to prove that the rock they found is from MArs. Let alone its 2 billion years old, AND let alone that it has been erupting for 2 billion years straight!! :D

"Even though we've never had astronauts walk on Mars, we still have pieces of the Martian surface to study, thanks to these meteorites," shared Marc Caffee, member of the meteorite research team and professor of physics and astronomy at Purdue University.
yep we've never been there.

How Did The Meteorite Reach Earth?

The journey of the meteorite began when something crashed into the surface of Mars either hitting the erupting volcano or just plain lava. The massive impact ejected rock fragments from the surface of the Red Planet into outer space. This phenomenon was possible due to the less gravitational attraction on Mars, coupled with the thin atmosphere.
There is no proof of that at all. Not one iota of proof. zero! zilch! nada!

The journey from outer space to Earth's surface was not a straight course. The fragments of rocks orbited in space for thousands or billions of years until a few of them passed close enough to enter a planet's orbit or an external force pushed it into the orbit.
again this is just made up.

The meteorites which arrived on Earth then started to degenerate over the years, until they became almost unidentifiable as extra-terrestrial rocks.
yep so much so that it is just a rock. :D

Meteor Northwest Africa 7635

The 6.9-ounce meteorites dubbed Northwest Africa (NWA) 7635 was one of the 100 Martian meteorites that landed on Earth. Out of these 100 meteor fragments, Caffee studied around 30 samples in the Purdue Rare Isotope Measurement (PRIME) Laboratory.
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The study revealed that all the samples fell into certain age groups and had exposure to cosmic rays for about 1.1 billion years.
im sorry, but what study? What tests were done to prove any of this? notice they leave that out as all radiometric testing does not work.

The research stated that the other 10 meteorites belonged to the same time and were approximately 500 million years old. This indicated that the 10 meteorites were formed from cooling magma about half a million years ago on the Martian surface. However NWA was found to be 2.4 billion years old by the researchers.

Again what tests were done? Because if it is any radiometric test they all fail 100% of the time every time if the actual date is known. And regardless to what test was dine there is no way to know that a volcano erupted continuously for 2 billion years. :D

Caffee says that the time period of the NWA depicts that there was a steady flow of magma in one of the areas of the Red Planet. Caffee also estimates that NWA 7635 could be a part of Olympus Mons.
That is just made up, there is no way anyone would know where any rock came from from Mars. Sorry, i could just walk out to my drive way and make the exact same claims.

The Curious Case Of Martian Volcanoes

Continuous eruption of volcanoes for a long period of time is non-existent and not heard of in the history of Earth. Martian volcanoes erupted for extreme durations and grew quite big in size as the Red Planet is devoid of tectonic plate movements unlike Earth.
wait, what? there is no proof for any of that statement. How do they know there is no tectonic plate movement? Last time i checked there are no seismographs on Mars

The movement of tectonic plates is responsible for the formation of volcanoes and craters and are very much active on Earth, but stopped in Mars when the planet cooled down making the plates underneath it solid, preventing the formation of plates.
Even that statement isnt true. Not all volcanoes are from tectonic movement. And craters? From tectonic movement? Seriously? No craters are made from impacts of objects from space! not earthquakes, ::) The movement can erase raters, but no way an it create a crater.

The largest volcano on Mars is Olympus Mons which is 17 miles high and has a foot print the size of Arizona.

The research has been published in Science Advances journal.
This rag should be put out of business, no fat checking at all. Oh that's right, These rags are paid to print not verify research. Thats why you cannot trust most science. http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,11171.0.html
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/196367/20170207/volcano-on-mars-continuously-erupted-for-two-billion-years.htm

Nasa's 'holy grail': Entire new solar system that could support alien life discovered
It is ‘amazing’ how similar the entire solar system is to Earth

Ive commented on this stuff before, if you just look at the article and all the news coverage this is getting you can see the lies. Especially all the pics they are showing of "artist rendition", well... They fail to mention that part almost all the time. Im sure they are going to say they have verified life on one of these planets next as they talked already on FOX news about how they are looking into pollution in the atmosphere to see if life is there. :D As mentioned in the earlier post.

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We cant get a descent pic of Pluto but hey we have this planet 300 light years away...

http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,7939.msg36160.html#msg36160

Scientists have found a new solar system filled with planets that look like Earth and could support life, Nasa has announced.

At least three of the seven planets represent the “holy grail for planet-hunting astronomers”, because they sit within the “temperate zone” and are the right temperature to allow alien life to flourish, the researchers have said. And they are capable of having oceans, again suggesting that life could flourish on them.

No other star system has ever been found to contain so many Earth-sized and rocky planets, of the kind thought to be necessary to contain aliens.
in fact they have actually found zero

The researchers might soon be able to find evidence of life on the planets, they have said. British astronomer Dr Chris Copperwheat, from Liverpool John Moores University, who was part of the international team, said: “The discovery of multiple rocky planets with surface temperatures which allow for liquid water make this amazing system an exciting future target in the search for life." we can barley find Pluto from Earth, yet these guys have all this info on planets so far away. ::)

Any evidence of life is likely to be “strong, very strong or conclusive”, the scientists said. It will be done by looking for what molecules are in the atmosphere – if they were to find things like oxygen, and in the right amounts, then it would probably indicate that there was biological activity. Please, we cant even do that to planets in out own back yard let alone across the galaxy

Co-researcher Dr Amaury Triaud, of the Institute of Astronomy in Cambridge, said: “We hope we will know if there's life there within the next decade.”

Even if life isn’t ever found near TRAPPIST-1, it might eventually develop there. The star is relatively young – even when our own Sun has run out of fuel and our solar system is destroyed, the newly-discovered one will still be in its early infancy. no proof of any of that.

TRAPPIST-1 “burns hydrogen so slowly that it will live for another 10 trillion years – more than 700 times longer than the Universe has existed so far, which is arguably enough time for life to evolve”, wrote Ignas AG Snellen from the Leiden Observatory, in an accompanying article about the discovery. That is all made up, no proof

All of the planets were found using a method called “transit photometry”. That works by watching out for when a planet passes, or transits, in front of its host star – blocking out a small amount of light, allowing us to see the planet and learn about its size. If the star twinkles there is a plant. That is what they are saying. All stars no matter what you are using to look at them, still just appear as a tiny dot of light.

Scientists first found the star TRAPPIST-1 in 2010, after monitoring the smallest stars close to the Sun. Since then, they have been watching out for those transits – and after seeing 34 of them clearly, they proposed that they can be attributed to the seven new planets.

They then worked to understand the size and composition of each of the worlds. That work is still continuing, but the researchers believe that the planets have large oceans, are temperate and other conditions that could make way for alien life. Oceans? really? :D

Dr Michael Gillon, from the STAR Institute at the University of Liege in Belgium, said: “This is an amazing planetary system – not only because we have found so many planets, but because they are all surprisingly similar in size to the Earth.” Heck im surprised they haven't announced strange radio waves from them yet.

If a person were on one of the planets, everything would look a lot darker than usual, the scientists said. The amount of light heading to your eye would be about 200 times less than you get from the sun, and would be comparable to what you can see at sunset. what? 200 times less? then its not like Earth is it?

Despite that relative darkness, everything would still feel warm, the researchers said. That’s because roughly the same amount of energy would be coming from the star as warms our Earth – but it does so infrared.

Because the star is so dim in relative terms, all of the planets are warmed enough to sit in the temperate zone. That’s despite the fact that they are all so close to it – each of them sitting nearer to the star than Mercury, the planet in our solar system that orbits closest to the Sun.

“The spectacle would be beautiful,” said Amaury Triaud, one of the scientists involved in the research. “Every now and then you’d see another planet, about as big as another moon in the sky.”

The sun would also look about 10 times bigger than our own does from Earth, Dr Triaud said, despite the fact that it is in fact only 8 per cent as big. And it would be a sort of salmon pink, said Dr Triaud, who noted that the scientists initially thought it would be a deep reddish crimson but most of that red light would be infrared and so invisible.

It’s unlikely that any possible life that is on the planet would actually see this way, the scientists noted, since they would probably have evolved entirely different eyes – or perhaps none at all. Well since evolution is a lie, guess that whole statement is a lie also.

The researchers hope that they can do more work to watch the planets and learn more about their character. They want to look in particular at the seventh, outermost planet because at the moment they are not sure how it interacts with the inner ones.

Nasa's Hubble Space Telescope is already being used to search for atmospheres around the planets. Future telescopes, including the the European Extremely Large Telescope and James Webb Space Telescope, may be powerful enough to detect markers of life such as oxygen in the atmospheres of exoplanets.

The first exoplanet was found in 1992. Since then, astronomers have detected more than 3,500 of the worlds, distributed across 2,675 star systems.

About a fifth of the sun-like stars are thought to have Earth-sized planets close enough to them to support life.

In all, there might be 40 billion potentially habitable words sitting just in our galaxy, the Milky Way, astronomers estimate.

Scientists have long thought that Earth-sized planets were abundant, but the new research shows just how many of them there might be. Many of those planets might never be seen, because they don’t pass in front of their host star and so aren’t visible.

That might mean that the new system is actually not all that out of the ordinary. Scientists expect that for each planet we find, there are as many as 100 we can’t see – and so the scientists might not actually have been lucky, but rather seen something that wasn’t that unusual.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-announcement-today-trappist-1-alien-life-solar-system-latest-live-exoplanet-a7593941.html

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This pic from the article, and this is the pic making its way across the MSM fake news is 100% a fraud, but hey , theres a pic so people will believe it easier.

I am not even going to comment on this just because of how stupid it is.

Mammals shrink when Earth heats up — horses the size of cats? :D

Global warming shrank certain animals in the ancient past, and scientists think it could happen again.

Warm-blooded animals got smaller at least twice in Earth’s history when carbon dioxide levels soared and temperatures spiked as part of a natural warming, a new study says.

University of New Hampshire researcher Abigail D’Ambrosia warned that mammals — but not people — could shrivel in the future under even faster man-made warming.

“It’s something we need to keep an eye out for,” said D’Ambrosia, who led the new work. “The question is how fast are we going to see these changes.”

Three different species shrank noticeably about 54 million years ago when the planet suddenly heated up. One of them — an early, compact horse — got 14 percent smaller, going from about 17 pounds to 14.6 pounds, according to an analysis of fossil teeth in Wednesday’s journal Science Advances .

“These guys were probably about the size of maybe a dog, then they dwarfed,” said D’Ambrosia. “They may have gone down to the size of a cat.”

Another creature that contracted was a lemur-like animal that’s the earliest known primate. It shrank about 4 percent; while it may not seem like much, it’s noticeable because studies of the animal over millions of years showed it was usually getting bigger over time, D’Ambrosia said.

Previous studies have documented a similar shrinking of mammals, including another early horse ancestor, during an earlier warming about 56 million years ago. Scientists and farmers have also long tracked animals, such as cows, that shrink and give less milk during hotter stretches.

This latest work shows heating and shrinking are connected over millions of years.

“These results are very significant because they provide another independent test of whether climate drives changes in body size in mammals,” said Jonathan Bloch, curator of vertebrate paleontology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, who wasn’t part of the study. “If we start to see patterns repeat themselves, we can learn from that. And what we learn from these lessons will certainly be important as we think about the possible response of plants and animals to future climate change.”

Both D’Ambrosia’s study and that of the earlier warming are based on fossils recovered from the Bighorn Basin of Wyoming. D’Ambrosia said it’s unlikely that the shrinking only happened there.

In hotter climates, mammals and other warm-blooded animals need to shed heat so they shrink. Smaller animals have more skin — or fur — per pound than bigger animals so more heat can escape, making them better adapted for warmer climate. Larger animals do better in the cold because they have less skin per pound and keep their heat.

The bigger natural warming — 56 million years ago — saw temperatures rise 9 degrees (5.8 degrees Celsius) or more probably from giant belches of methane from dead plants and animals that had accumulated on the sea floor, said Princeton University climate scientist Michael Oppenheimer.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/15/watch-out-mammals-shrink-when-earth-heats-up-study-says/

Mars has life? Building blocks discovered

NASA announced the Curiosity Rover found "organic matter" on Mars.

NASA's Curiosity rover has made important discoveries exploring Gale Crater on Mars. It is shown here Nov. 26, 2011, in a composite self-portrait.(Photo: Uncredited, AP)

The "building blocks" for life have been discovered in 3-billion-year-old organic matter on Mars, NASA scientists announced Thursday.

For starters, just what is "the building blocks for life" and why cant we find them on a living world like Earth? Mars is a dead world and irradiated. Also how do they get that date of 3 billion years? They cannot date anything on Earth accurately. You cant use geological layers on Mars, you cant use radiometric dating on Mars, so where does that number come from? OH they just made it up.

Researchers cannot yet say whether their discovery stems from life or a more mundane geological process. Im gonna say neither as NASA is looking for more funding, remember the Mars rock? fake news for more funding. However, “we’re in a really good position to move forward looking for signs of life," said Jennifer Eigenbrode, a NASA biogeochemist and lead author of a study published Thursday in the peer-reviewed journal Science. Head Liar

The findings were also remarkable in that they showed that organic material can be preserved for billions of years on the harsh Martian surface. :D Goes for soft tissue in dino bones also ;D

The material was discovered by the Mars Curiosity rover, which has been collecting data on the Red Planet since August 2012. The organic molecules were found in Gale Crater — believed to once contain a shallow lake the size of Florida's Lake Okeechobee. No proof of that what so ever, 100% made up

For the past six years, "the Curiosity has sifted samples of soil and ground-up rock for signs of organic molecules — the complex carbon chains that on Earth form the building blocks of life," according to Science. "Past detections have been so faint that they could be just contamination," the journal said. again, funding!! contamination, wonder from where?

Now, samples taken from two different drill sites on an ancient lake bed have yielded complex organic molecules that look strikingly similar to the goopy fossilized building
blocks of oil and gas on Earth.

The rover also discovered traces of methane in the Martian atmosphere, which was reported in a second paper in Science. This is significant because most methane on Earth, for instance, comes from biological sources.

"The detection of organic molecules and methane on Mars has far-ranging implications in light of potential past life on Mars," said Inge Loes ten Kate, a Utrecht University scientist in an accompanying article in Science. "Curiosity has shown that Gale Crater was habitable around 3.5 billion years ago, with conditions comparable to those on the early Earth, where life evolved around that time. This doesnt show any of that. None. now we are up to 3.5 billion years. ::)

"The question of whether life might have originated or existed on Mars is a lot more opportune now that we know that organic molecules were present on its surface at that time," Kate said.

NASA's Thomas Zurbuchen said that "with these new findings, Mars is telling us to stay the course and keep searching for evidence of life. I’m confident that our ongoing and planned missions will unlock even more breathtaking discoveries on the Red Planet.” That means we will make up stories for funding, we have done it before and will continue to do it.

The nuclear-battery-powered Curiosity rover, a $2.5 billion mobile chemistry lab, launched in 2011. NASA calls Curiosity the "largest and most capable" rover ever to make contact with Mars.

It's about the size of a car, has a 7-foot-long arm and carries 10 science instruments, 17 cameras and a laser to "vaporize" rocks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/07/life-mars-building-blocks-life-discovered-3-billion-year-old-organic-matter/681597002/

Could humans live on Mars? Here's what a NASA expert has to say :D No No we cant, heck we cant even get to Mars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O5dPsu66Kw

Humans will "absolutely" be on Mars in the future, NASA chief scientist Jim Green told USA TODAY. And the first person to go is likely living today, he said.

Nope, Mars does not have a magnetic field nor Van Allen Belts to protect the planet from radiation and xrays and cosmic rays. Mars is dead because of this.

After the "building blocks of life" were discovered on the Red Planet, life on Mars and living on Mars seems to be less like a scene from the movie The Martian and more like a reality.
See previous post on this farce.

"Now, we see Mars is an even better location for having past life," Green said. "It’s just getting better and better."
again a media lie for funding

Mars is more Earth-like than any other planet in the solar system, making it an attractive second option for the human race. There's also a natural beauty on the planet: a grand canyon that measures nearly the entire width of the U.S. and a volcano the size of Arizona.
yep all that and radiation too

The planet could offer humans a "brand new life with brand new vistas," Green said.
nope

The plan is to send someone to the planet by 2040. But that's dependent on quite a few factors.

Here are some obstacles, outlined by Green:

We have to land. Right now, NASA is able to land a 1-ton vehicle on the surface of Mars. For a human to land, it would need to park about 10 tons on the surface. That vehicle would also need to land with precision — mainly not mountains or hills or rocks.

We would need to blast off from Mars. It's not a one-way ticket, at least right now. That's why NASA is working on a Mars 2020 rover. "Sometime in the next decade, we plan to blast off the surface of Mars and return."

We would need to wear spacesuits — all the time. Weather on Mars is extreme. The difference between Monday and Tuesday could be 170 degrees. The average temperature is well below zero. The air is also largely carbon dioxide — good for planets, bad for people.
also all the radiation that a space suit just will not stop sorry and lie from NASA

We'd have to get used to dust storms. About every 26 months, it's summer on Mars, meaning prime dust storm season. These storms, made up of fine dust that gets caught in the atmosphere, can darken daylight to a twilight stage and last months.

We need to build an entire infrastructure. "The people that would go there are real pioneers," Green said. The first humans on Mars would need to farm and establish a food source. Scientists believe beans, asparagus and potatoes are viable crops for soil there. Homes would also need to be built. Green said 3D printers might be able to use dust on the planet to create habitats.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/06/11/could-humans-live-mars-nasa-expert/690476002/

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