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Title: 1st Samuel 8 - could this apply to the modern-day church buildings now?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 02, 2013, 12:12:56 pm
Something I've been thinking about recently - I know this went on during OT times in Israel, and in other cases apply to why certain political leaders get "elected".

But when you think about the modern-day churches now - I've seen(and am kind of seeing it now at the one I'm going to) cases where for WHATEVER reason they dislike the current pastor(and it's not necessarily b/c of his doctrinal beliefs, whether good or bad), and end up either forcing him out or making him feel they don't like him. Pretty much almost every time, some reprobate(or at least bare minimum, a BIGGER reprobate) ends up coming in and taking his place b/c the pews end up wanting that PARTICULAR person(and end up warming up to him no matter how bad doctrinally he is).

This seems to have been one of the leavens of church buildings since the whole thing started - pastor leaves, only for another pastor more reprobate than him coming in to take his place, and the merry-go-round goes on and on.

1Samuel 8:1  And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.
1Sa 8:2  Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.
1Sa 8:3  And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.
1Sa 8:4  Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
1Sa 8:5  And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
1Sa 8:6  But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
1Sa 8:7  And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
1Sa 8:8  According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.
1Sa 8:9  Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.
1Sa 8:10  And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.
1Sa 8:11  And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.
1Sa 8:12  And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.
1Sa 8:13  And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.
1Sa 8:14  And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.
1Sa 8:15  And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
1Sa 8:16  And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
1Sa 8:17  He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.
1Sa 8:18  And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
1Sa 8:19  Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
1Sa 8:20  That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.
1Sa 8:21  And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD.
1Sa 8:22  And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city.


Title: Re: 1st Samuel 8 - could this apply to the modern-day church buildings now?
Post by: Psalm 51:17 on September 02, 2013, 07:22:46 pm
One of the points I was trying to drive home was that even pastors in these church buildings that are doctrinally in error either get disliked or forced out as well.(again, no, not endorsing church buildings, but those preaching out of an NIV, endorsing RCC pagan practices, etc)

Ultimately, it's as if no matter how many "candy handouts" these pastors give to their pews, some to most are just not satisfied, and end up begging for someone more reprobate than him, and the merry-go-round just goes on and on...

Jeremiah_5:31  The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Isaiah_5:13  Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.