In that case, it may have been that Vanessa just wanted to clarify it with the prayer-requester that he doesn't need to confess specific sins... and not a statement that she thought Kilika was telling him that he has to confess his sins to us. Yet, one would think that Kilika would have seen that clarification and just stated that that is what he meant.... if it is what he meant. Instead, he sent this private message to Vanessa:

"The Lord rebuke you. How dare you disrespect William, a very young brother that is seriously reaching out to the brethren for help. And you go and cause disruption by going off-topic and scolding me in public out of total disregard for William. How dare you! You got a beef with me woman, fine, but don't you dare go around blasting people like that and take away from anothers time of need.

As I said, and apparently you still don't get, a pm was in order considering the thread is from a person that is seeking immmediate help, not just a general discussion about what a person thinks about a verse or something.

God willing, what you should do is apologize profusely to William, and to the brethren for your disruption. Take the low seat and humble yourself before God.

"Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up." James 4:10 (KJB)

Understood. Kilika, please accept my apology for not taking it to you.

Nevertheless, to avoid any more complications, please refrain from pm-ing arguments, especially to women. The bible says to be above reproach and to avoid ALL APPEARANCE of evil... and there is something about a male member pm-ing a female member that is an appearance of trying to get the woman alone in a discussion, as though to make an argument to her that you would not make in public conversation. Men try to do this to me on Facebook thinking that I might be persuaded if there are no others around to help me.

I understand that some things need to be done by private message, but I'm advising as a general rule to not do anything by private message that can be done in public. There are obviously some issues that are sensitive and others that require discretion. As a general rule, it is best for a male to not pm a female in any discussion that can be discussed in public. Next time, just start another thread... and it will save a lot of pain.

I do not understand what kind of drama you were trying to avoid. It is normally good for men and women not to pm one-another, too much... ESPECIALLY in debate. If it can't be said in public, then it ought not be said in private. A person can discuss a verse or disagree on any number of things without it being personal. It is not an attack on a person's character: it is a discussion of something outside of either person's character. If you were trying to avoid a hijack of a thread, then it is better to start another thread than to take a debate to private message. If we were all to learn from this and keep our interactions public, then we make no room for anyone to guess what we have said. It is good that what we say, we say out in the open.

Sometimes I just think we all struggle so much and get overwhelmed... and we need to all just pray for one-another. William, God bless you. You sound like a struggling saint. I guess the battle isn't over until we leave our mortal bodies. Please pray or me, too, as I also struggle.

Thank you, Nuclearnuttery for your response to William, and also everyone else for the bible verses, as in them are power and life.... and much encouragement!

I'm not up to 200 songs in this one, yet, but am getting close. I listen to baroque, especially when I get an old heavy-metal song in my head. It helps me. Maybe it will help some-one else, too. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RDRXLsv6b0&feature=BFa&list=PL739FAEEDBD5BFD2B&index=4

Hi Kilika. I'm just wondering if sharing one's faults is, perhaps different than sharing one's sins... one reason I say this is the verse does not say to share one's sins, but to share one's faults.... and it would seem that it would not be good to share some specific sins, as the hearing of such sins could lead another into temptation...

Or the hearing of many confessions of sin could cause a person to become jaded and to think that it isn't so bad... but the confession of faults might be more like confession to the nature of the sin, as in lust of the flesh, lust of the eye or pride of life.... or a person could confess to something like coveting and lust of the eye...

I don't know... I'm just wondering what you think of this. Please let me know, either way. 

How are you doing, now, William? Do you want us to continue to pray? I just got here.... so, I can pray for you and for assurance of your salvation. The bible says that a broken heart and contrite spirit, God shall not despise... which I think is to say that he will have mercy on one that has a broken heart and contrite spirit. I can see that you are quite broken over things you did.... it may be a sign that you are already saved.... 

Yes... that was cute. 

A man pmed a woman and rebuked her for questioning a scripture interpretation in public... as he is a man and she ought to have kept silence in public.

I'm sorry, but I have to protect the privacy of a former forum member, and need to make a clear ruling on the subject of a woman being able to discuss a scripture in public. It was brought up to this woman, by pm, that a woman is to keep her silence in church.... and that a woman is not to disagree with a man when discussing a scripture in public.

I need to know that we are in accord that it is alright for a woman to discuss a scripture in public, even if her interpretation disagrees with a man's interpretation.

Do we have accord? Are we together on this?

Does anyone have any question?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that Dok will agree with me that i is okay for anyone (including a lady) to express his or her opinion about a scripture, here (on this forum), in public.

This is a forum and is not a formal church service. This is a place to discuss and to fellowship with other believers. No speech is to be stifled, here. Thank you.

I just want to thank you for understanding and also for having compassion for the one that was gagged. I feel bad that it happened to her and am upset, as I was when she told me about it. She has already left the forum. 

Amen, BornAgain2.

No, it is not you. :-)

I subscribed to this thread but did not receive any email notification... I suppose it could have been sent to the spam- box. How random.

I'm sorry she did not call it to your attention... and she only barely called it to mine. A man rebuked her by pm for saying what she said about a scripture in public rather than by pm. I can't find the posts on the thread anymore as they have been removed...

Dear gentlemen... it has been brought to my attention that women are being silenced on this board. As I am the founder of this forum, I need to remind you that this forum is a sanctuary for believers, both male and female... and, as this is a forum and not a church, women are allowed to speak freely... as a pastor is not in a pulpit preaching and this is not a formal church service. we are to be silent in church... as it is becoming for a church to be done both decently and in order... and a woman is not to usurp authority over a man... and certainly not interrupt a pastor....

This is not a formal church. it is a sanctuary and a place for saints to fellowship. I'm asking that you do not silence anyone that has anything he or she would like to say. This is a place for edification.

And there are some, including myself that believe it is not proper for men and women to be private messaging... and it is definitely not right to insist that a person engage in private messaging, if that person has expressed a preference not to communicate by private message. If it can't be said in public, it ought not be said at all.... unless one is seeking to correct a believer that is sinning or in danger of sinning.

Oh dear God, I pray that he be healed. Please pull him through this... in Jesus' name, amen.

p.s. Glorify your name, in this, Lord. Whatever be your will, please glorify your name... yet I pray that he be healed. If you're willing, speak the word and he shall be healed.

Please pray for Andrew and Laura-Jane McCrea (very warming christian family), who go to Cookstowntown Free Presbyterian, Northern Ireland.  Their precious little boy named Oliver-James (3yrs) is in a very critical condition, very slim chance he will pull thru'. Just Friday past he woke up cough out blood and fainted with his heart requiring resus in the ambulance to the hospital.

Here is the first link. I hope that the judge ruled in this family's favor. Had the person that sent the request just copied and pasted this, more of us would have prayed:

"As many of you know, we are in an epic fight with the Canadian Government to win back the custody of our children through a gross act of medical negligence that led to medical misdiagnosis. Throughout the last three years of this battle, God has broken us, saved us and continues, by His love and gentle grace, support us.

In no other time of our lives have we cried so much, lost so much sleep and hurt so much. Is it right for parents to have their precious children so callously ripped out of their lives as we have? Can one’s heart take too much pain and just stop? I can tell you there have been times that our hearts felt like they were on the verge of just stopping.

But God has always come in, swooped us up in His protective arms and loved us.

“My son and My child, My son and My child…” I have heard Him say on more than one occasion. His love and gentleness coupled with His anger and discipline has made our journey very interesting and never boring.

Many people have come into our lives and many have gone. Many people have stepped up and supported us and many have stolen from us. We have been stabbed by friends, and embraced by so called enemies. The one thing we have learned throughout this is: We would have never been able to survive this unless we had surrendered to God in prayer and submission. This has become our life. Prayer and submission to God.

Tomorrow, we are supposed to be receiving the Judge’s response and decision. A decision that will either reunite us as a family, or tear us apart forever. it will either bring our children home for good, or they will be placed permanently in another’s home and their last name will be changed, and we will have no more contact until they are at least 18, if they want to.

The pressure and stress of this whole nightmare has gathered itself together and it seems to be ready to explode today in anticipation of tomorrow. One can almost feel the spiritual pressure gathering.

Please pray for my precious little family. Please pray that God will embrace us today and hide us in the hollow of His hand. Please pray that God will bring our children home to us, nevertheless, may His will be done.

To God be the glory forever."

I pray that it did go well for them. If not, then I pray the ight is not over. God be glorified in this.

Amen.

I agree with Joshua's prayer request and ask that the Holy Spirit will do a work in the mom's heart that the gospel may take root in her and that it continue to take root in the hearts of her children. In Jesus' name. 
Amen.

Dear Brothers & Sisters in Christ,
 
I am writing to request prayers for a family (mom and 6 kids) that we met last night in a bus shelter while witnessing on the streets of downtown Minneapolis. The mom was escorting her youngest child out of the shelter for a "talking to" as my brother Luis and I entered to converse with those inside. God graciously gave us just the right amount of time to speak truth about Jesus into the lives of the 5 children (young adults) that remained in the shelter before mom came back in and revealed that she was a "pagan" and "didn't give a "%&# about Jesus". Please join Luis and I in praying that this woman has a powerful encounter with Jesus Christ that will rescue her from spiritual darkness, and that she not be allowed to stiffle Jesus' work in the lives of her children.


I thank you all in advance!
 
With love in Christ,



----

Joshua Pierson

Is it because of the links? I feel the same way... more than one link and I'm overwhelmed.

Hello Dr. J-

These are some very precious friends of mine. You are a "true believer" and thus, we need your prayers.

http://revivalandreformation.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/the-day-of-reckoning/

and:

http://www.mom4truth.com/the-day-of-reckoning/

Thank you so much!

God bless you,

The Stover Family


--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Private Jackson <private.jackson@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Private Jackson <private.jackson@hotmail.com>
Subject: URGENT Prayer Request: The plight of Paul and Zabeth Bayne.
To: private.jackson@hotmail.com
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 5:49 PM


http://defendingcontending.com/2010/04/19/the-plight-of-paul-and-zabeth-bayne/
 
Please pray for these brethren as soon and as often as you can.
 
They are awaiting a decision concerning their family by a judge in Canada very shortly.
 
**Pass this on to as many true believers as you can**

I have compassion... it hurts me to think of how this woman's life is falling apart, and I do not want her in the cold or left to the mercy of strangers. Dear God, i pray you send her some comfort and provisions... and to heal her physically. Father, please draw her nigh to you and draw nigh to her. In Jesus name, amen

I don't have any money.