THIS WAS KILIKA'S PRIVATE MESSAGE TO ME (ANOTHER MEMBERS NAME HAS BEEN CENSORED)

The Lord rebuke you. How dare you disrespect _______, a very young brother that is seriously reaching out to the brethren for help. And you go and cause disruption by going off-topic and scolding me in public out of total disregard for ______. How dare you! You got a beef with me woman, fine, but don't you dare go around blasting people like that and take away from anothers time of need.

As I said, and apparently you still don't get, a pm was in order considering the thread is from a person that is seeking immmediate help, not just a general discussion about what a person thinks about a verse or something.

God willing, what you should do is apologize profusely to _____, and to the brethren for your disruption. Take the low seat and humble yourself before God.

"Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up." James 4:10 (KJB)

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Kilika misrepresented the truth in his post on this thread. He uses the word of God erroneously, out of context, and to his advantage 3 times in this one situation alone. once to coerse another member to do something that is not required biblically (which was a coersion to confess sins on a public forum using a particular verse). The 2nd time, to coerse me into having to engage him via pm using verses, and the 3rd time by using the biblical distinctions between men and women to get me into subjection to him (hence, referring to me as "woman" rather than by my name). THIS IS DEAD WRONG and disrespectful beyond words. His message has threatening undertones with language like "don't you dare!"

It started with a member on the forum posting a prayer request because he had sinned against the Lord (but he did not reveal what the sin was) Kilika then proceded to tell him that it wasn't enough for him to just say he wanted prayer, that he had to confess (to us on the forum) what the sin was in order to be healed from it using the verse
James 5:16
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

I felt this was a bad interpretation of the verse so before the forum member felt the need to post his sin because of kilikas comment i replied to kilika on the thread essentially saying that: with all do respect, i didnt feel that the forum member had to confess his sin on a public forum as the verse says confess your FAULTS not ur sins one to another. We are only required to confess our sins to God via our one and only Mediator, Jesus. Then at the end of my comment i asked "am I wrong about this?" as a sincere question, leaving myself open to being corrected on my take on the verse. Well Kilika went off on me, rebuking me for correcting him etc and that i should have sent him a pm if i felt the need to admonish him. From my prespective my comment was hardly an admonishment and in comparison to the times he has harshly admonished people on the forum publicly, in my opinion i was being as humble about it as possible and I was not going "off topic" what i was saying was directly related to the thread itself.

when i read his very nasty reply on the thread. i replied back saying that it was going to be the last time i engage him as it is obvious he doesnt like for people to disagree with him and i also said that because he hadn't proven biblically why people are required to confess their sins publically, i will stand by my understanding of it and the fact that people are not required to display their sins on a public forum or anywhere that is public. After he read my reply he sent me an even nastier message privately (message posted above) referring to me as "woman" (implying that i am in subjection to him because he is a man) The bible says "wives be in subjection to your OWN HUSBANDS" I am not in subjection to any man on this forum first cuz noone here is my husband and second this is not a church setting. Kilika is waaaay out of line by behaving this way simply because I clarified a verse for another member and he didnt like it.

In regards to James 5:16 (the verse that i originally gave my take on and how this whole thing got started) it says:
"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

  
Even if the word "faults" could be interchanged with the word "sins" i dont think the verse was talking about confessing your sins on a public forum for a bunch of people whom one does not really know, to read. I don't think that you can take that verse and apply it to the internet, it would be best to find a person (of God) that one confides and trusts in, to reveal personal struggles to in order to find restoration (Hence the second part of the verse that says "The effectual fervent prayer of a RIGHTEOUS man availeth much." how can you know if everybody that is reading ur business on the net is RIGHTEOUS?)
I just didnt want to see anbody be coersed into posting anything he/she didn't feel comfortable posting out of guilt that he/she wasn't following biblical guidlines. I strongly believe that asking for prayer is sufficient enough, if that is what someone wishes to do.

Kilika also said that I was required to PM him my disagreement about the verse using Matt 18:15 "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother."

first of all I am not required as a married woman to PM another man. Second of all, like Traci said, it is not proper. Thirdly, since i was not confronting Kilika on any sin or trespass he had committed but simply just a clarification of a verse, I was not required to speak with him privately.
I am not the first one to give a bible interpretation on the public threads. The members are doing this on a daily basis, yet i am the only one required to do this privately because certain people are above being wrong on anything. It's ridiculous and way out of line.....and THAT is the WHOLE story

This is not a church! this is a public forum/social network where people can come and fellowship not a church setting. So it is a bizzar idea to say that this is a church when anybody and everybody even if you are not chistian or even registered can come and see what is being said here and post anything they would like. It is impossible to regulate a public forum to resemble what the bible says church services should be like for example married women are not protected here by their "head covering" which are their husbands from people who over-step their boundaries regarding how they treat them (as they would be in an orderly church service) *hint hint*.....so to say that we have to follow biblical church guidelines is just incorrect and a misrepresentation of what the bible calls a church setting.

whoa! this will be the last time i engage you. since you don't take people questioning ur remarks lightly. You have not proven biblically why it is required that people post up or confess publicly the sins they've commited so i will stand by my conviction that one is not required to do this in order to be healed. I don't think i am required to pm message you about something as simple as the question i had. You post up admonitions all the time that are faaaar harsher than what i posted (and i dont see how what i said was anywhere near what you took it to be) it was just my take on a verse and i even asked the question at the end "am I wrong on this?" so as not to sound pompous and that i was open to be corrected on this verse. obviously you are not open to being corrected so i will not ask you anymore questions or disagreements. 

they censored her nakedness but not the F-bomb...to bad i would have liked to share this video

w/all do respect brother because i DO have much respect for you but the verse says confess your faults one to another not your sins. we confess our sins to God...i don't think it is necessary nor prudent to put our sins on blast on the internet or anywhere else if we don't feel comfortable doing so. i think it is sufficient for someone to request prayer. Am I wrong on this???

oh wow congratulations, what a beautiful name! my baby was born on the 12th! the day after urs thats pretty cool, her name is Natalia Juliet

thank guys for responding (wow akfools, thats pretty handy thnx)

bornagain: yes i had the baby a girl, 9 pounds! she's 2 weeks old i will change my default pic to show a picture of her. thnx for asking been meaning to announce it, just so busy....also do u remember which site you ordered ur berkey from?

has anyone here ordered a big berkey water filter? i ordered one from bigberkeywaterfilters.com a month ago and i haven't received it yet  has anybody had to wait this long for theirs?

i know what you mean BornAgain : / the ads on this site are much worse than the previous site. when i log on i quickly scroll down so i don't have to see it and put it on mute. I especially feel grieved for the men on this forum, as there are lots of images of naked women (whether they are cartoons or that actress megan fox) but like Dok has said unless everyone is willing to donate money to take the advertisements off, it's going to be a thorn in our sides. (to be honest i liked the other forum much better as far as the lay out)

a very disturbing MTV commercial regarding martial law that is currently airing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG9e-N1Eql0

I am a 100 percent KJV defender because i have no doubt that it is the real deal word of God and all others are corrupted but i think we should just stick to praying and informing people why and how the KJV is the accurate bible and why all others have deviated from the truth instead of calling people heathens, sinners, or criminals lol (as this video suggests) for reading other translations. We are not going to lead people to truth like this, I dont think it is as effective. The Lord has used me (all glory to God) to lead people to the KJV but in a meek and gentle way (sticking to the facts) when you start condemning people, insulting, or accusing them of being practicing sinners because they are ignorant to this issue then i think it is counter productive and dangerous. Many people that read other translations are saved children of God (albeit they are decieved on this issue) but we have to be careful how we handle, approach, and treat them as the bible tells us how protective He is of His own. There has to be a balance of correction and meekness. 

Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Titus 3:2
To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

1 Corinthians 4:21
What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

According to several websites that managed to save personal information from Arizona shooter Jared Loughner's internet presence, Loughner claimed to have worked for Child Protective Services.

Below is the information that was allegedly scrubbed from his facebook page within minutes of the shooting.

Jared Loughner
Has worked at Child Protective Services
Studied at Pima Community College
Lives in Tucson, Arizona

Education and Work
Employers •
Child Protective Services
College •
Pima Community College
High School •
Mountain View High School
Class of 2006
Basic Informatio­n

About Jared
Love hunting trolls and children, I want to be a woman one day...
Most people just don't seem to understand me, but I'm gonna prove to

you all how wrong you are...

My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience

dreams were a great study in college!

Fools who don't understand the law are bound to suffer under it!

Sex Male

Interested In Men

http://www.examiner.com/cps-and-family-court-in-albany/arizona-shooter-allegedly-worked-for-child-protective-services

CPS IS BUSTED AGAIN!....DEVILS! 

i dont really like the 2nd link since no facts or evidence are given for most of the people listed. I dont like when people just list heretics without providing any proof. It's as if i am supposed to take their word for it.

BA ur right. we are way too comfortable here (though i dont understand what ur reply has to do with this thread hehe) anyhow there are some crazy events happening lately...I pray the Lord keep and protect His remnant not just here but all around the world.   

yes i agree with Kilika and BA but if someone gave me a gas mask i would use it lol...i'm fine really, Jesus is my Lord this is just really wierd and intriguing and i'm interested in what the believers have to say about it. so keep the posts coming ;-)

ok this is freaking me out...should we all buy gas masks? seriously...does anybody know where to purchase quality gas masks?

interesting.... i didnt notice this

I will pray for you Traci

from time to time I run into a person (always men) on the internet who equate women wearing, even modest pants, as heathens. can folks give their thoughts on this please. 

sounds like a routine sunday night service at the pentecostal church i use to go to years ago lol 

Father God, I pray for Jaqueline during this trial she is facing. Lord I pray that whatever is causing her deafness that You would heal and restore her. I pray for the protection of her children, husband and family. Father, that Your perfect will be done in Jaqueline's life. Give her faith, peace, strength to endure, and guide her to wherever You want her to be. Restore her hearing if it be Your will and heal her body in Your precious Son's name Jesus Christ. amen.

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I don't know who believes Alex Jones is a christian lol he is obviously not saved and we can't expected unsaved people to point to Jesus Christ. His show is basically a news show. I don't see why we can't glean information from it especially fact based info (we should try and stay away from opinions). I mean the info is more reliable than Fox lol and many christians are watching that garbage. As long as people are not following him as if he were a prophet of God I don't see the problem with gleaning info as we would any alternative news outlet.