Yep.

The biggest problem I ran into was keeping everything dry. Firearms rust. Clothing gets damp from sweat, condensation, or precipitation and starts to rot on the body. Ever tried to wear the same socks and underwear for a week? Cotton certainly takes a long time to dry in overcast, drizzly conditions.

Gathering wood and cutting to size was a daily chore. My best purchase was a 21” hand saw that was designed to cut quickly through wood. Camp axe proved to be slow, and very labor intensive. Firestarter was a godsend when dealing with wet wood, which was most of the time.

That is true. Both Crème and Patel deny it. I still think Crème is referring to a specific spirit though.

Scenario:

The NWO families crash the world economy, successfully create plagues, practically hand out weapons and ammo, and remove nutritional value from most food sources.

The majority of the world lives like those in Uganda. Squalor, disease, immorality, and injustice are everywhere.

Then…..

Leading scientists have confirmed the existence of other dimensions. World governments now admit that there are extra-dimensional beings, much wiser and more advanced, that they have known about for years. In the past, they have had a doctrine of non-interference. However, out of compassion for the suffering of the world, they have decided to partner with us to save humanity.

Our hope is, through this superior wisdom, mankind will be brought out of this nightmare into a world of abundance, peace, and prosperity for all.

Right now, counselors are training others to have direct contact with this race so that everyone on the planet can experience personal enlightenment that will transform this dark world into a new utopia.

World leaders have already received this counseling and have glowing things to say about their outlook. Their attitudes have changed completely as their concern for the well being of the people and restoration of their nation comes first. They now work feverishly to destroy the old NWO systems in favor of completely new systems of finance, government, and religion.

Q: How many people would willingly go along with this?

Correction: She used the Lord's prayer.

Found the video! It was Constance Cumbey. She was also interviewed in the documentary "Aquarius: The Age of Evil".

JUST ONE Christian MESSES up Maitreyas Plans! LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfBKkJHRynM

Titan the robot is the stage name of a robot suit [1][2] created by Cyberstein Robots Ltd in 2004, | url = http://www.cyberstein.co.uk/ | title = Cyberstein official website | accessdate = 2009-06-22 | publisher = Cyberstein
The robot is approximately 2.4 m (7.9 ft) tall and 60 kg (9.4 st)[1] and increases to 350 kg (55 st)[1] including the cart it rides on and onboard equipment. It was designed by Nik Fielding, who runs Cyberstein from Newquay, Cornwall, England.[2] Titan has performed at a variety of public and private events, from the Commonwealth Games and Alton Towers to bar Mitzvahs[1] and shopping centres.[3] Titan has appeared on Channel 4 and the BBC's Children in Need.[4  --Wiki


TITAN’S HISTORY

We are into the eighth year of research and development of the “Titan the Robot” concept…

Our company policy is to continuously push the boundaries of technology, extending our record of safety and reliability in all our products.

To date, there are five different models of Titan, all at different levels of automation. The first two generations being a type of power assisted suit (due to the weight of the top half being a pure robot).

Because Titan was designed purely to be an entertainment robot his job dictates which system elements are needed and moreover not needed.

Titan did not need to lift any objects or have tactile sensors to provide mechanoreception, so the initial weight of the actuators and torso were kept to a minimum enabling the robot to be more efficient and allowing us to progress more rapidly into research and development in other areas.

More:
http://www.cyberstein.co.uk/

Real. Sort of.

Crème’s seemingly cryptic answers to Q&A on the share international website make perfect sense when one considers that “Maitreya” is……a spirit.

It explains why Crème needs to channel to communicate with Maitreya.

It explains prior appearances years ago in a different host.

It explains how Crème can say that Maitreya has visited most heads of state.

It explains how people can report running into random strangers claiming to be Maitreya and having Crème confirm the event.

It explains why ONE woman attending one of Crème’s soirees completely disrupted the proceedings by praying in the name of Jesus. (there’s a video of her being interviewed)

Raj Patel is indeed one of the hosts used by this spirit destined to be THE false teacher that the world follows.

These people are openly collaborating with demons. They really, really want to set up their kingdom. The sooner the better for them. Their strong desire to see the rise, or rulership of their gods will result in the tribulation occurring just as God has planned. But they don’t necessarily realize that.

They do know that something is standing in the way of their progress. That something is, in fact, Jesus and His people.

I suppose it’s possible. The world certainly encourages drunkenness.


http://blabaweb.x10hosting.com/illuminati-alcohol/

How do we know that spells haven’t also been cast on meat, produce, eggs, milk, or canned goods? How do we know that there isn’t some guy at the water treatment plant doing his mumbo-jumbo on the water supply?

I think that God can and does protect His people in ways that they haven’t thought of. There have been testimonies of occultists casting spells on Christians only to have the spell bounce back to the caster multifold. God is certainly capable of making the unclean thing clean.

The bible does not condemn alcohol. It’s just a substance.

It does condemn willingly submitting to an impaired mental state through drunkenness though. This can be applied to a number of substances besides alcohol today.

Jesus drank with the rabble of the time. But there was never an indication of Him forfeiting His will to world influences. To the contrary, His will and the Father’s will were and are one.

Mark 13: 12  Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

Spanking has its place within a certain age range, then it doesn’t work anymore. More effective is the anticipation of spanking. I still remember that HUGE custom-made paddle hanging on the wall in the principal’s office. It was quite the deterrent for bad behavior.

A pastor told me years ago that if you don’t discipline kids early, it’ll come back to haunt you when they are teens.

Looking at the map, I don’t see many towns that would be subject to flooding. Power would be more significant.

“The dam's generators provide power for public and private utilities in Nevada, Arizona, and California” – Wiki

Considering the circumstances in which it was built and the design of it (womb), I wouldn’t put it past powerful madmen to have plans to eventually invoke mayhem for more control. This very well could be a card that hasn’t been played yet.

Interest in the dam’s structural integrity was as recent as 1995.

"Concrete cores were removed from the dam for testing in 1995; they showed that "Hoover Dam's concrete has continued to slowly gain strength" and the dam is composed of a "durable concrete having a compressive strength exceeding the range typically found in normal mass concrete".[61] Hoover Dam concrete is not subject to Alkali-Silica Reaction (ASR) as the Hoover Dam builders happened to use nonreactive aggregate, unlike that at downstream Parker Dam, where ASR has caused measurable deterioration.[61]" -- Wiki

The project is festooned with artwork that glorifies man and new age symbolism.

"Complementing Kaufmann and True's work, the Norwegian-born, naturalized American sculptor Oskar J.W. Hansen designed many of the sculptures on and around the dam. His works include the monument of dedication plaza, a plaque to memorialize the workers killed and the bas-reliefs on the elevator towers. In his words, Hansen wanted his work to express "the immutable calm of intellectual resolution, and the enormous power of trained physical strength, equally enthroned in placid triumph of scientific accomplishment", because "[t]he building of Hoover Dam belongs to the sagas of the daring."[67] Hansen's dedication plaza, on the Nevada abutment, contains a sculpture of two winged figures flanking a flagpole. Surrounding the base of the monument is a terrazzo floor embedded with a "star map". The map depicts the Northern Hemisphere sky at the moment of President Roosevelt's dedication of the dam. This is intended to help future astronomers, if necessary, calculate the exact date of dedication.[67][80] The 30 feet (9.1 m) high bronze figures, dubbed "Winged Figures of the Republic", were each formed in a continuous pour. To put such large bronzes into place without marring the highly polished bronze surface, they were placed on ice and guided into position as the ice melted.[81] Hansen's bas-relief on the Nevada elevator tower depicts the benefits of the dam: flood control, navigation, irrigation, water storage, and power. The bas-relief on the Arizona elevator depicts, in his words, "the visages of those Indian tribes who have inhabited mountains and plains from ages distant."[67]"

-Wiki

Here’s an example of overt V2K being peddled to the military.

What is the MEDUSA Microwave Crowd Control Weapon?

The MEDUSA (Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio) microwave crowd control weapon uses microwave pulses to make extremely uncomfortable high noise levels in the human skull of targeted individuals. The end result is the noise bypassing the human ear drum and ears resulting in an extremely uncomfortable feeling to encourage a crowd to break-up in a non-lethal manner. The MEDUSA system is developed by the Sierra Nevada Corporation on behalf of the United States Navy and does not result in negative side effects for people not in the targeted area. If military testing of the weapons succeeds in demonstrating there are no side effects of the weapon, civilian applications by law enforcement and security firms are planned for MEDUSA.

How Does MEDUSA Work?

MEDUSA leverages the Microwave Auditory Effect which is when microwave stimulation causes the portions of the ear around the cochlea to expand thermally. This expansion is then interpreted by the brain to be sound that originates in the targeted persons head and is not heard by anyone else in the path of the beam. The system commonly gets confused with the Active Denial System which also uses a directed microwave beam, but in a different manner to cause the sensation of heat in the body’s skin. Since the MEDUSA transmission doesn’t vibrate the human body’s eardrum, the use of hearing protection does not protect an individual from the microwave crowd control measures. In addition to focused, narrow beam transmission, MEDUSA is also capable of transmitting a broad beam transmission to cover multiple targets over a large area to be used as a perimeter security defensive measure or to keep areas free of birds.

http://www.activedenialsystem.net/

So, they admit that altering the frequency will cook internal organs. I wonder how many people realize this? Raytheon is trying to sell this to local police in the US.

Also, this is hardy new. Time to put the veil back on so that this can be “unveiled” again in 6 months. “Unveil” means “we just wanted to remind the public that this exists, in case anybody is thinking about protesting, because it’s a slow news day.”

So, why was this pulled from Afghanistan? Completely safe, right?

“In April 2007, one airman in an ADS test was overdosed and received second-degree burns on both legs, and was treated in a hospital for two days.[16][13] There was also one laboratory accident in 1999 that resulted in a small second-degree burn.[2]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System

It could come through the television, but, from their POV, a feedback loop would be better to measure effectiveness. I think we’re seeing the tail end of people lured into a “technology high”, purchasing endless gadgetry. It would be in their interest to get rid of gadgets completely. Presently, big money is available to anybody that can trend and profile human interests on the net. Thus the shift away from TV and toward the internet is something that TPTB eventually want to happen. Not too long ago, I lived in a newly-built house where fiber optics were pre-wired in. The contractors told us that, in the future, that cable alone would handle telephone, television, and internet access.
 
So, where is bluebeam headed? V2K traces back to 1975 and TIs are now reporting harassment via RF means. I see this as beta testing. If SSRIs can produce hallucinations of people that aren’t there, then I think they’re trying to see if the same effect can be achieved via RF. Unfortunately, the majority if TIs realize that the voice in their head is not their own.

That’s where nanotechnology/the mark comes in IMO.

Back then, no. I’d never heard of him. At the time, websites were still in their infancy. Google didn’t exist. Blogs and forums weren’t common yet. All I saw was this guy being treated as important somehow. Later, the scandals and controversy surrounding this group came out via the www.

Realized this is probably responding to something I posted but I'm not sure I follow??

BA2,
This is an outstanding post. Not sure if it should spawn a new thread or not. Thank you so much for your testimony and Baer’s testimony.

The same thing happened to me when I was a teenager. I was invited to attend church by a friend who had a rather religious family. On the way home in the car after services I questioned what the man in the pulpit was saying. To me, it didn’t make sense. I got a cold response from the entire group in the car. Sometimes they would use the excuse that “that guy was just a visiting evangelist”. Later, I visited a youth pastor, same church, to ask him about witchcraft because I wanted to know if the supernatural realm was real or not. He simply told me that I was going to hell. My “home” church refused to discuss this illegal subject.

That was the last time I attended useless church “services” that provided no answers for subjects I was wondering about.

That led me to seek out books and visits to a new age store. Ended up talking to a practicing witch working there. I also sought out a catholic priest because they seemed so friendly in the movies. When I found one, to my surprise, he was willing to discuss the subject. He even offered to loan me books about druids. Just the fact that he was open to discussing this subject was good enough for teenage me. So, I dropped the subject in favor of pursuit of supernatural experiences.

Fast forward 15-20 years later. I’m with my newly found charismatic church attending a conference in Kansas City. I hear Paul Cain prophecy that some young girl will be a mystic. On the way home, after the conference, we stop in a restaurant for lunch. I ask my pastor publicly if Jesus was a mystic because I really didn’t know if it was true or not. He avoided the question with a question for me, which I answered honestly. This earned me a looong lecture by a church elder on the way home about “respect for authority”.

I honestly don’t know what I’m looking at in the grocery store anymore. It APPEARS to be food, but what is it really? Cooking oil=soy=GM. Produce=GM? I’ve had store-bought bananas that never ripened, but turned black—garden vegetables that taste completely different than the store produce—like noticing the true flavor for the first time. Meat? Is it meat? How come I can eat two sloppy joes made with store ground beef and have room for dessert but I can’t seem to finish a sandwich made with game meat because I’m full?

Crack open a store-bought egg and compare it to a locally-produced egg and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

Meanwhile, everybody is constantly tired. Energy drinks didn’t exist in the 80’s and most of the 90’s. Now everybody’s drinking the super-caffeinated stuff just to function and sales are good. Soda with HFCS,aspartame, and as yet to be disclosed ingredients flies off the shelves in abundance as some people use it as a water substitute. Why should I have to BUY bottled water?!?!?

HFCS in everything, including bread. MSG renamed 1001 ways. Remember the reports on bacteriophage in lunchmeats? What else has been added to my “food” that’s not required to be on the label?

Is it really a good idea to irradiate everything before it hits the shelf for “safety” reasons?

What about microwavable meals? They’ve gotten so bad now that I’d rather have a bacteriophage sandwich.

What is it?                      What is it?                    What is it?

Saying grace at the table has taken on a far deeper meaning these days.

For all who have prayed over this situation, thank you.  Unfortunately, things have apparently gotten worse for this family since I posted. I say “apparently” because I don’t know the bigger picture, nor all the details of His plan for people. PM sent to the above 3 members.

If you have prayed, but didn’t respond in this thread, I can PM details to you.

Some of the giant skeleton photos on the web are proving to be doctored hoaxes. For instance, this photo…



…traced back to this photo:



Source:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/photo_database/image/giant_human_skeleton

So what does this mean? The Bible says they were there. I have also read about past discoveries of giant remains that got sent to the Smithsonian only to end up “disappeared”.

Here’s my take. Since more info about this is emerging on the internet, the only way that TPTB can keep people in disbelief is to intentionally mix obvious hoaxes in. For somebody viewing this, they would tend to take the all-or-nothing approach to the subject. This technique definitely muddies the waters.

Another article I stumbled upon takes the position that ALL the unusual skull findings are hoaxes. It’s written from a secular point of view. I’m not sure how a “horned skull” could be faked though. I suspect this is also a blend of real/hoax.



Top Ten Skull Hoaxes
Sun, February 26, 2012
by Kate Mulcahy

Skulls are an interesting part of the skeleton, because they give us an idea of what the face of its owner was like. To those who study them, skulls can also give a wealth of information about diet, lifestyle, health, age, and even brain size. Throughout history, many strange skulls have been discovered which seem to go against all previous knowledge. Sometimes such skulls lead to better understanding in various fields, but unfortunately there have always been those who enjoy fabricating unusual skulls for attention and profit. These skulls fall down in the face of proper testing, yet they persist until the fraud is discovered and can be of great interest. This is a list of hoax skulls, mistaken skulls, and unusual or misleading practices pertaining to skulls.

http://listverse.com/2012/02/26/top-10-skull-hoaxes/

Tribulation Clip: Helen Hannah's Day of Wonders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuKOROav42k&feature=related

This 1999 movie inspired me and still does. Astonishingly, the term “hater”, which was rather foreign back then is now common. 9/11 hadn’t happened yet, so terrorism wasn’t a common idea. The public attitudes depicted then are manifesting now in real life. None of the actors are backed by Hollywood anymore.

Television is still trying to float this idea today. But I’m seeing quite a bit of skepticism on the net over it.



About 2 years ago, AFAIK, Youtube started spawning “professional” channels. People were hired to make entertaining youtube vids, particularly in the area of comedy. Since there’s obviously money behind this, I believe this move to the net is in response to declining television viewership. Note that this is part of the elite plan according to an insider back in 2001.


At the same time, both governments and the MIC have overtly expressed interest in controlling what people see and read on the web.

It is true that people will still tend to see something and run with it as true without checking any other sources. This is evident in the scourge of spam e-mail that spawns sites like Snopes.

IMO, professional think tanks are still studying people’s reactions to net info for the purposes of perception management. Distribution of money, or lack thereof is still a strong control mechanism for human behavior.

Somewhat exhaustive list of all the lures or snares of the enemy. One thing left out though.  People must fist be convinced that their lives aren’t good enough before it will work. This can be though trauma (induced by the same beings offering the solution) or through the natural thought that there has to be something more to life. (which is true) God has the solution to both dilemmas if one is willing to ask Him.

Kidding Gullible Believers: The Truth Behind the “KGB UFO Files”

by Antonio Huneeus
FATE Magazine, January 1999
Reprinted by permission

Hollywood loves sequels, so it shouldn't be surprising, after the high-ratings hoopla surrounding the Ray Santilli "alien autopsy" footage a couple of years ago, that a new UFOlogical blockbuster was recently unleashed.

On September 13, cable network TNT broadcast The Secret KGB UFO Files, a slick and entertaining 90-minute program produced by Associated Television International and hosted by Roger Moore. Several Russian and American experts were interviewed, including this columnist.

The show got off to a good start, showing three very interesting gun camera films taken from three different UFO scramble missions involving MIG fighters. These films are titled "Declassified Soviet Government Material," and Moore stated that the Soviet Air Force footage was "obtained by a group of Russian UFOlogists and declassified by the USSR's Ministry of Defense." This UFO footage is very dear: One shows two dark oval objects merging in the air and another depicts a cylindrical object moving at incredible speed.

The bulk of the program, however, devoted to a more dubious endeavor: an alleged UFO crash and alien autopsy footage, in all its glory or infamy. The key expert was Verniamin G. Vereschagin, a Russian UFOlogist and author whom literally no one in the international UFO field had ever heard of.

Vereschagin had quite a story to tell. According to him, many residents of the Sverdlovsk (now Ekaterinburg) region in central Russia had seen UFOs and later an explosion on November 27,1968. The event was allegedly published in the Soviet-controlled Sverdlovsk newspaper. In the spring of 1969, farmers in the area of Berezovsky found strange debris and contacted the KGB. When a crashed disc was discovered in the forest, Soviet troops were called in. KGB cameramen filmed the site and the troops' activity, and later, the autopsy of an alien occupant.

I feel entitled to comment at some length about this affair because of my involvement in the show. The producers used a sound bite of me endorsing the film: "This is the best footage of an alleged crashed UFO or dead alien that I've seen so far." But they conveniently left out my preceding line (which was tacked on later): "If this is real, and I do not have the elements to make that judgment...'" I was interviewed for more than half an hour about the general history of UFOs in Russia, but other than my short comment on the 1986 Dalnegorsk incident and physical evidence, they used only my remarks on the film.

More:
http://dagmar.lunarpages.com/~parasc2/nb/articles/kgbUFOhoax.htm

These are testimonies of people destroyed by antidepressants.

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"Whoever said that they lost most their ability to love; MAN, that is the thing I miss the most. I was a very, very, very passionate person prior to celexa. I was passionate about everything, my marriage, my job, my country. I couldn't hear our national anthem without stopping and feeling the hairs on the back of my neck stand straight up. 14 years in the Army National guard, I was very into my career with them too. I was passionate about running, about my relationship with (and this will probably sound wierd) my dog. I miss all of these things. I hope they all come back to me. They were very much the bricks in the foundation of my life and I feel like they are gone. When I say I want the old me back, I mean the person who was passionate, the person who loved and was loved. The driven person who saw what he wanted and went out and got it. That was all taken from me with the introduction of Celexa in my life. I just want it back."

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"I've been in an extremely peculiar state for the past 8 months after stopping Wellbutrin/buproprion. I have literally lost everything inside of me and no longer have a sense of "inner being". My personality has been completely erased, along with the inner psyche I've spent a lifetime building. When I attempt to "look inside", it is impossible because there is literally nothing there. Everything that made up my specific sense of personal being is gone, including including my hopes, fears, dreams, goals, opinions, values, morals, likes/dislikes, and most strikingly, all emotions and feelings.

I have no feelings associated with past events, and no emotional connections with anything in the world. Specific emotions that defined my personal sense of being are no longer there. People, places, things and events that I thought were etched in my soul as having significance no longer mean a thing. Absolutely nothing, I can't stress this enough.

I am unable to look backward or forward, have no sense of past accomplishments and no desire for future ones. The strangest thing is, I cannot feel anything toward being in this state, as that part of me is gone too. It's like a recursive erasure of everything I ever was, am, and will be.

It doesn't feel like life is a conscious experience that I am having anymore, as there is no inner construct within me to absorb an experience on any level. I see, hear, touch, and smell, yet each of these is so devoid of emotional content that they don't coalesce into anything meaningful I can call a human consciousness. My sense of being has been replaced by a constant void of nothingness that is unchanging, 24/7, I feel nothing towards the nothingness. It is not like feeling empty inside, there is no inside to feel empty within.

Getting to this state was a long process that started with gradually losing my emotions. This started when I decided to withdraw from the antidepressant Wellbutrin/Bupropion which I'd been on a high dosage of for 5 years. Strangely, going back on it did not help, but made things worse. When I stopped and started the drug a second time, I experienced one tremendous day of improvement followed by a seizure while sleeping, and woke up in a confused state. After this I regressed and felt completely dead inside.

This waking up in a confused state happened 2 more times, once in May 2010 and once in September 2010. Both of these were preceded by sudden improvements. But upon waking I felt like I had lost a basic part of my self. Not just feelings, but the core of my being. What I felt to be the complete and final destruction of my inner being happened on September 7th, 2010, and there hasn't been a change since (it has now been 8 months).

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"I tell you, I never had a problem before celexa. I just want to be back to me. I want to no longer be the pitiful creature it made me. I want to be me. The old me. I want myself back. Life isn't worth living with this new person holding my thoughts and feelings hostage. I have been off Celexa since last year. I JUST WANT ME BACK."

"I have been on 0 mgs for almost a year, and my emotional state has yet to come back to normal. (normal me). I have been from Psyc doc to Psyc doc (never needed before celexa) to try to figure it out. They point the problem back to me. I found out by reading around the Internet, and buying the book "Prozac: Panacea or Pandora" by doctor Ann Blake Tracy, and I found out that several people, if not all people, who go off these drugs experience exactly what I have experienced. When Natalie wrote what she wrote, you can go back to some of my earlier posts and the withdrawal effects are written down almost verbatim. These are bad for our brains, they change our personalities. I want my life back, and don't want even my worst enemy to experience what I have been through. These people have no love for their fellow man. We need to, no matter how emotionally messed up we are, we need to band together and prevent them (a commercial for Cymbalta just came on the tv, made my blood boil) from prescribing them to ANYONE. Depression hurts said the commercial, I never knew depression till after celexa. I have been through hell, therefore hell exists."

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"What I don't understand is how a drug could completely erase me as a human being. What I'm experiencing is not depression, anhedonia, or flat affect, but a permanent change in my consciousness that literally destroyed my humanity. All the parts that made up my being are literally gone. I don't understand how this is even possible, or what (if anything) I can do to change it."

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"I'm 25 yrs old. I used to be a bodybuilder, avid fisherman, used to drag race, and enjoy the great outdoors. USED TO.

I was on effexor for about 3 yrs, 75mgs. I decided I wanted to stop taking it, I felt fine. Im 25 I said and I can deal with lifes problems.

I told my doc if I may discontinue the drug he said sure, if you want to. Doctor didn't even ask me if I wanted to wean off, I suggested him to give me the 35mgs, but he gave me only a weeks worth.

I have never in life felt so sick. I would not wish this on anyone, not even my enemy. The first 3 months were hell. dizziness, nausea, fatigue, bad memory, brain zaps, you name it I had it. I couldnt even walk sometimes.

I fought and fought and it is now 7 months that I am clean off this horrible so called drug.

To this day, 7 MONTHS later, I am left with weakness, bad memory, and horrible coordination.

I can no longer workout, all my muscles went down, I have no energy to do what I liked to do in my life. I cannot function or remember things at work. I am useless. If it wasn't my cousins place, I would have been fired along time ago.

I am not depressed, I don't have panic attacks.

In my opinion, Effexor has left me permanent damage. I have been through more tests than you can think of. blood tests upon blood tests for every disease known to man.

This drug has changed my life for the worse and everynight i cry, because I feel that this medicine has severly left me damaged. My doctor has no idea what to do."

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"I was prescribed Zoloft 25-50mgs 9 years ago while I was in college.

Before I begin with the nightmare, let me stress I WAS NOT SICK when I started this drug. I had anxiety (situational )and was a little tired. That is it. Other than these issues, I was as healthy as a horse, never been in the hospital, rarely if ever needed to go to the doctor. I was very active and on the go.

Well, Zoloft worked immediately, what can I say. I loved it. Loved it loved it loved it. I thought it was a gift from God, saved me and my college career. I wasn't as shy as I had been. I felt more social.

But then I found I could not get off without severe head pain and brain zaps. So, I stayed on it. Every few months I would think about going off again, but the symptoms I would get kept me on it, and very afraid to come off. So, I stayed on it for 8 long years. (I forgot to mention I gained 25 pounds within the first 3 months on it. That was another reason I wanted off).

After 8 years, I'd had enough. I felt like I no longer needed it, I had been long out of college and the original situations that gave me anxiety were long gone. So, at my doctors advice, I tapered over about 3-4 weeks.

Then my life was shattered. Completely shattered.

I was told the withdrawal would only last a week or two at most, so I rode it out. It never went away and only kept getting worse. So, I gave up and tried to go back on. I couldn't take the symptoms anymore. But my body was having none of that. Strangely, now when I took Zoloft, my body and brain reacted badly, as if it were rejecting it. I got a fever and felt like I was dying. I had no choice but to get off again. I was given other SSRI's, but none of them helped either, and all of them made me worse. I no longer tolerated meds like I did prior to Zoloft.

I kid you not, here I am 3 YEARS later and still very ill, and it all began when getting off Zoloft. Here is what I suffer 24/7.....

severe head pain and pressure
brain zaps/ electrical zaps shooting through brain down to toes
burning in extremities and brain
severe fatigue and weakness
dizziness/vertigo
severe depression ( never was depressed, ever, until coming off Zoloft )
severe anxiety
panic attacks...BAAAAD
daily crying jags
skin eruptions and
bone and muscle pain
burning tongue
insomnia
digestive pain
cramping on right side under rib cage
hair loss
sensitivities to food and medications previously tolerated well
extremely sensitive to vitamins and minerals previously tolerated well
no motivation / severe apathy
loss of career and income/ on disability
derealization/ depersonalization
back and neck spasms
unable to drive, shop, or eat out
increased allergies to things once tolerated well ( smoke, dust, cats )
suicidal thoughts....pretty regularly and very scary
nightmares
jaw pain from clenching teeth ( I guess from severe stress )
agoraphobia...very heartbreaking since I used to be so busy
ears ringing
feeling like being hit it the back of the head with a shovel
pressure in chest, like a 100 elephants are sitting on me
racing pulse, even when resting
increased blood pressure and cholesterol
metallic taste
bladder spasms
loss of cognition/ mental function ( feels like I lost 50 IQ points )
difficulty concentrating and recalling facts

I wrote a letter to Pfizer, detailing my story and my symptoms. They blew me off and wanted a doctors opinion of what my illness is from. No doctor will admit to Zoloft being the cause of this illness, so Pfizer pretty much told me they take no responsibility. They ruined my life, and take no responsibility. They train their drug reps to educate doctors that these drugs are harmless. They know better, but rake in too much money to do anything about it.

They do not care how many lives they destroy, as long as they continue making their billions off innocent victims."

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"My withdrawal from Seroxat/Paxil (a few years ago, now). I became very aggressive on the stuff (many arrests and court appearances), and on some days I could pop valium like smarties without it making the slightest bit of difference. When I decided it would be a clever move to stop taking it and put up with a few days of flu-like symptoms, I found out what withdrawal was really like.

I slashed at my arms, I rolled around on the floor, screaming, because everything felt raw (my theory is that we 'normally' perceive the world through a comfortable haze of endorphins--which was stripped away) and when the police were called I freaked out completely and brandished a knife at them.

My husband referred to that state as being 'animalistic'.

Needless to say, I escaped jail by a hair's breadth. When I ended up in ER, following a dose of pepper spray in my face, I begged for Seroxat and the doc just laughed in my face and said they weren't running a pharmacy. They did not believe there was such a thing as SSRI/SNRI withdrawal syndrome. I think they still don't.

In the cell, waiting for the court appearance, I had the worst shakes and weird feelings (derealisation, having two heads, having my head swell to the size of a water melon). The junky I shared the cell with said: "Wow, what are you on?"

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I was put on zoloft, and when I stopped taking it I became disoriented didn't remember anything for 3 days. Lost my systems design engineering job I had for 7 years with 21 succesful projects. Lost my income, lost my mind, lost my home, cars, family heirlooms retirement, etc.etc. It all happened after taking ZOLOFT. I was finally diagnosed with a form of epilepsy and put on anti siezure meds..Lamictal. The Zoloft stuff took place In the 3rd world state of Louisiana..no recourse..Louisiana SUCKS. I now live in Florida, I'm 100% disabled and doing somewhat better thanks to my wife and my 2 wonderful kids that stood by me during those nightmarish days. By the way..the state of louisiana does not recognize the brain as an organ according to one ambulance chasing Lawyer. It only counts as an organ during a lawsuit right after an accident. If there are problems 10 years later...too bad it is no longer relevent.

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The first time I tried to get off cymbalta, I tapered over two months. Three weeks after the last dose, I was still extremely affected. I almost lost my job (doctor-level position), I almost quit my job.

I had about two months of hell trying to get off it.

So I'd be trying to pick up my clothes to get dressed in the morning and it was like zap zap zap grip wall zap pick up shirt zap zap nausea zap sit back down zap. Then I'd be talking to someone at work and i'd have the zaps and want to say 'oh just dont mind my nystagmus, nothing to worry about'

I don't feel that pissed off about it all right now, I just wonderhow long it will take before the brain zaps go away for good

I think I might donate some money to some organization this year that lobbies for more disclosure to patients about this **** because my dr who first prescribed it to me said 'Really? It causes vertigo in you? I am on it too and I get that too--I wonder what's up with that.'.

Followup: I'm up to about 6 months since I was taking Cymbalta every day and I still have weird effects like those described above. It has gotten to be kind of a joke now and mostly I just get the weird vertigo zaps. I wonder if it is 'permanent' a lot.

It is a very distinct 'zap' and it feels way more sketchy and scary than the depression that caused me to go looking for an antidepressant.

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"The worst kind of hell imaginable. I was off of this drug for 4 months without a hint of relief from the withdrawl symptoms. I was scared for my life and at the same time wanted to die..... Furthermore, every doctor I saw told me that Paxil isn't addictive. **FRUSTRATION** Hated it!"

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"Please consider this before commenting on antidepressants in a positive way.

About 10 years ago, the medical school at a major university began to notice a large number of cadavers coming in (for the medical students to work on) which had indented and calcified frontal lobes in their brains.

Puzzled by this, they went through the life history of each cadaver that had this anomaly, and discovered that in every case, the person had been on SSRI antidepressants.

The level of brain damage indicated that each of the cadavers had been lobotomized.

The people who drew the connection between the calcified and collapsed frontal lobes (the part of the brain which contains your soul) and antidepressants received offers of money to keep it secret, and when they chose to go public anyway, received anonymous death threats against their families and children if they ever went public.

I have seen many people get destroyed by antidepressants, all the while they said all was well. Invariably they go down the toilet as they eventually move toward complete and total emotional and personality flatline."

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"I decided I did not want to be ruled by this drug. Under the supervision of my doctor over a two month period, I weened myself from cymbalta forever. Each time I went down to a smaller dose I got sick. I had headaches, brain zaps, nausea, flu-like symptoms, I blacked out, my memory would get worse, until the culmination of taking no Cymbalta at all. Fortunately my mother is retired and was able to stay with me- I was withdrawaling like I assume people do on heavy street drugs! I would go to sleep hoping I would not wake up and be in pain throughout the day. My pain would get worse as the day progressed and by 4:00 I could barely stand the headaches, nausea, the ear ringing, and brain zaps. It has been a year since I have been off of Cymbalta and I continue to have horrible headaches that get worse as the day progresses; my ears ring, and my vision is screwed up. I see little lights at night time. My memory is not what it used to be and when I tell my doctors that I think I was permanatley poisoned by cymbalta they look at me like I am crazy (and isn't that the reason I went on the cymbalta in the first place?)"

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"I am on my 7th day of no Cymbalta after being on it for only 3 weeks. I went from 60mg to 30mg, no problem. Then 30mg to 15mg, by making my own pills from the 30mg. Brain Zaps started. Now since I am clean for 7 days the Brain Zaps are hell, I think I even blink when they hit me. Inside my head the Zaps sound like a chattering angry squirrel. The people that made this drug must have never tested it for withdrawals. I have terrible back pain, have trouble sleeping, and have even cried twice this week. I just took 50mg of benedryl and 1000mg of tylenol hoping I can sleep tonight. I also gained weight on the drug. Has anyone that dealt with the Brain Zaps stopped having them all together? They are so bad, I am afraid to drive, I now understand why some folks kill themselves coming off drugs like this one. If there is a happy ending, I would love to know about it. Almost forgot, Blood Pressure has gone thru the roof coming off this stuff."

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"I will name the countless symptoms and probably unreversable brain damage I am living with after Effexor. There are good days in wich some of the symptoms won't arise for exception of the pain. Those are the days I can be a mother and wife but still the shadow of the energetic person I was. Back in July all the symptoms hit me all at once. Blury vision, dizzy, letargic, high pitch ringing in my ears, exhaustion, pain all over my body, joints and muscles. Muscle twitching, slurred speech, urinary incontinence at times, hair lose in patches. It is impossible for me to normally work at any type of job now. I have states where I would forget what I am doing. I have times in wich I have a hard time controlling voluntary motor functions in my legs and arms (such as not being able to write, open a bottle or carry anything). Every now and then muscles will begin to twitch, then just stop, out of the blue. I became lethargic and have no energy to do anything. Not to mention times or days when I can not drive due to the chance that I would have an accident beacuse of the sudden blury vision or dizzines that make it dificult to see. Not to mention when I suddenly forget where I am going or doing."

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Since I started taking effexor, My memory is going out the window. I am having trouble remembering things from yesterday, granted I haven’t always been the best to remember things. I have noticed that I am forgetting tasks at work, this has never happened. I find myself using an entire pad of sticky notes, and forgetting to complete the notes written.

I’ve been taking Effexor since last November, and I’ve been having memory problems. Even yesterday I can barely remember. It’s so difficult. Usually, I had a good memory but now it has gone down hill.

I’ve been on it for about 9 months, and the SAME thing is happening to me. i forget things daily, lose things often, and my attention span is like a 3 year old boy. my doctor also told me theyre not connected, but i KNOW they are, which is the main reason i’m coming off the drug now. i wishi would have been informed of all this before i got hooked on the stinking drug.

I have been experiencing memory loss for awhie also. I started taking Effexor spring 2005. Before that I had been taking Zoloft, which was not working for my anxiety and depression. I notice about 3-6 months into taking Effexor that my short term memory was playing tricks on me and the more I think about it the more I realize this drug has something to do with that. What should we do now? Does anyone else think we should be contacting the company and find out the truth about this being a side effect???

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"I have been on Celexa for almost three years. the results: lost a job and a marriage due to being so non complacent but gained 20 lbs. I skipped a few doses several weeks ago and decided it was time to wean myself off. I tapered down very quickly and am now dealing with the following withdrawal symptoms:

Anxiety
Dizziness
Fatigue
Headache
Insomnia
Diarrhea
Nausea
Restlessness
Blurred vision
Jolting electric "zaps" (at bedtime)
Tingling sensations
Abdominal discomfort
Flu symptoms and general malaise
agitation
Vertigo
Gait disturbances
Sweating
Irritability
Aggression
Sleep disturbance and insomnia
Nightmares
Vivid dreams
Confusion
Memory and concentration difficulties
Crying spells
Lethargy
Weakness

The aggression is the scariest part but now that I know almost everyone experiences this I feel better. From reading most of the posts it doesn't seem to matter if you wean yourself or go cold turkey, the withdrawal symptoms appear the same."

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I believe SSRIs "cause" neurogenesis through the brains compensatory mechanisms. By inducing a massive chemical imbalance at the synaptic level, SSRIs force the brain to respond by shutting down these connections and creating new ones (which then get shut down, and the cycle continues). Unfortunately, these new connections (axons) often resemble the type of new axonal growth (swollen/corksrew appearance) seen after recovery from a neurotoxic MDMA regimen. (editor's note - MDMA is Ecstacy) These axons also often grow and/or project into areas where they did not before, and the significance of this is as of yet unknown.

7. The most troubling permanent lasting adverse neurological effects you may experience after prolonged SSRI usage (and consequent STOPPING) are :

a). Word finding troubles
b). Absolute emotional flatness and deadness
c). Permanently reduced sex drive
d). An odd, pervasive social anxiety/awkwardness
e). Trouble with coordination
f). Bad memory
g). Trouble retrieving words
h). Overall paucity of thought and expression
i). Lack of creativity and intellectual fluidity (mental fog)
j). A lack of ability to "steer" or control the tone of your voice
(I've noticed this- that I sound shaky and agitated no matter what my
mood is, and people think I'm upset when I'm really not)

8. After these brain damaging effects have sunken in, you may have great difficulty finding support anywhere. Talking to a p-doc may be an exercise in futility. They will want to protect their own interests and shield themselves from a possible lawsuit, hence you may be told continually to get back on meds/up your dosage. The more you protest, the less credibility you have, thus the more evidence in your p-doc's mind that you need to go back on SSRIs.

9. Once you realize the extent of the damage, and it sinks in beyond the denial you may initially face, it will be hard to explain to others exactly why you are not the same person you used to be. The damage is similar to a TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) yet it might be better termed DBI (Diffuse Brain Injury).

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Cymbalta

"Oh, how the withdrawal wrecked me. The only thing worse than taking Cymbalta was withdrawal from Cymbalta. Added to all the side effects I was already having, I very much wanted to cut myself, and got as far as sitting down with a blade, but instead I bit myself on the hand as hard as I could stand. I think I also punched myself in the thigh that same day, but it's all sort of hazy. The first day off Cymbalta, I hallucinated, felt like my arms were really far away from the rest of my body, dissociated for most of the day, and in general, thought I was going to have to call for an ambulance. A benzo would've really helped, but I didn't have a pdoc yet at the time; I had to wait three weeks and let me tell you, those were three of the most hellish weeks of my life, including feeling very much like I was having a mixed episode. Out of desperation, I took diphenhydramine because it helped the vertigo and the sleepy feeling sort of passed for "calmer." It took at least three weeks for the withdrawal symptoms to calm down to a dull roar. When I saw my new pdoc, I was still agitated."

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Your doctor is your worst enemy. Welbutrin is an SNRI. It blocks the metabolites in the liver that metablilze seretonin and noepinephrin. Switching to celexa, which is an SNRI is not going to help you. Doctors just have no clue as to what they are doing. You go to them with a problem, they consult ther PDR, and hand out some drugs that the pretty little pharma rep gave to them. They will give you something to destroy your brain, then give you a benzo like xanax, to combat anxiety. You cannot sleep, you are always on edge, you end up with some sort of psycological "disorder" (manufactured by the drug companies), and you are left a buned out shell of what you used to be. They tried to give my mother-in-law prozac because she was sad when her father was dying of cancer, and she was starting to go through menopause. I SCREAMED. This lady didn't need prozac, or any other mind altering drugs. She needed to reduce her stress.

I told her to take topical progesterone, and she turned around just fine.

Fact: Doctors don't know what ssri's do to the brain

Fact: There is no evidence of a lack of neuro transmitters.

Fact: There is no way of measuring the level of seretonin in the brain...

I pray for anyone in distress anywhere, and God bless and help those whose lives were destroyed by doctors who dished out meds that they know nothing about.

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WITHDRAWAL

did anyone else get tapered off zoloft from a doctor but still having withdrawal?

this is how my doctor did it and I am still trying to understand why it was just down to 50mg and not less after a while: starting with my 100 mg

week 1- 50 mg every day
week 2 and 3 50 mg every other day
week 4 50 mg every two days
week 5 50 mg every three days
week 6 off (on this week now)

I took my last on sunday and it's now Wednesday. last night I could not sleep, I felt very cold and I was shivering and had interrupted sleep and then got too hot all over like I was burning. I've had the brain zaps all along on the days I didn't take it and some of the shivering and feeling a little dizzy too , very restless sleep on and off for these last few weeks. also some irritability, and very depressed and hopeless feelings and anger, some crying spells for no reason. I don't want to call the doctor because obviously they don't know what they are doing or I wouldn't have withdrawl symptoms at all.

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My daughter began having petit mal seizures. Coincidentally, she was just recently placed on zoloft. I am sure it was only a coincidence, right? What did zoloft do to you?

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YES, ZOLOFT IS EVIL. IT RUINED MY LIFE. IT MADE ME ACT TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER AND I MAIMED MYSELF IN AN INDESCRIBABLE WAY.

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Zoloft destroyed my life, and my Dr. and therapist stood by and watched it all happen right before their eyes, it was like I was a project for them. I am sorry to those I affected during that time, I regret it everyday.

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Hmm, disclosure muuhhh agggggh eeeeeEEEEAA SPACE BRAH!!!!!!



Throwin’ it back to Egypt and beyond!

Constantly. There's nothing good in there that I'll ever be able to take credit for. Sometimes need to remember the grace that He had for me long before I knew I was doing anything wrong.

+1000

Yeah, that can be extended to a lot of things…money, guns, knives, alcohol, governments, intellect…

Saducees. They’re still going strong today. I’ve seen Greek Orthodox honchos shaking hands with their politicians. They act as liason between government and the congregation.

Political Role of the Saducees
The Sadducees oversaw many formal affairs of the state.[9] Members of the Sadducees:
·   Administered the state domestically
·   Represented the state internationally
·   Participated in the Sanhedrin, and often encountered the Pharisees there.
·   Collected taxes. These also came in the form of international tribute from Jews in the Diaspora.
·   Equipped and led the army
·   Regulated relations with the Romans
·   Mediated domestic grievances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadducees#Political


Nicely and simply put.

Mt 10:21  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

Mk 13:12  Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

This agenda is already well on it’s way. “It takes a village” leads to new legislation and judicial precedent. Children are being encouraged to rebel via state structures. (CPS, schools, media)

This undermines/overthrows parental authority as intended by our Creator.

Lately, I'm seeing adults generally disregarding parents. It's happened in church. It happens in restaurants when I see the waitress ask a 6-year-old "What are you having?" after the parents have already ordered for the kid.

No, the promotion of sodomite marriage IS the agenda to trivialize and eventually do away with marriage ordained by God. It’s ultimately about man’s ways backed by man's laws trumping God’s ways/laws – rebellion with overwhelming coercion to “go along to get along”. This method of societal change is being practiced in the court systems now.

I am projecting what current events will lead to in light of scripture.