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« Reply #150 on: March 19, 2014, 03:23:36 am »

ears of war grow as Ukrainian officer is killed at military base in Simferopol

Fears were growing that widespread violence would erupt in the aftermath of Russia’s annexation of Crimea, as former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned of growing regional tensions.
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Clinton called Russia's move to annex Crimea "illegal" and "a violation of international law" and said that other countries near Russia could also face aggression if President Vladimir Putin is allowed to get away with his actions in Ukraine.

"If he's allowed to get away with that, I think you'll see a lot of other countries either directly facing Russian aggression or suborned with their political systems so that they are so intimidated that in effect they are transformed into vassals, not sovereign democracies," Clinton said at an event hosted by the Board of Trade of Metropolitan Montreal at the Palais des Congres.

She argued for sanctions against Russia and increased financial and technical support for a democratic government in Kiev.

It came as an Ukrainian officer was killed in a confrontation in Simferopol, just hours after the Russian president delivered an incendiary speech justifying Moscow’s reclamation of the former Ukrainian territory.

Several others were injured and the Ukrainian commander captured as the military facility in the Crimean capital was stormed by troops dressed in Russian camouflage kits and balaclavas.

The Ukrainian Prime Minister warned that  “the conflict is shifting from a political to a military stage” and claimed that “Russian soldiers have started shooting at Ukrainian servicemen and that is a war crime”. His government, he added, has now authorised the use of firearms for its forces surrounded in their bases in Crimea.

However, there were indications that it was the separatist Crimean government’s recently created “Self Defence Forces” who had actually carried out the fatal attack. Local officials, meanwhile, claimed that “fascist snipers” had fired the first shot from a residential building and one of the injured was one of the defence force members.

The Ukrainian and Russian governments had agreed to a ceasefire until 21 March, aimed at preventing hostilities breaking out at the blockaded bases. But there was apprehension that the assault and the resultant death and injuries may break the delicate accord, with highly dangerous consequences.

The shooting began three and-a-half hours after Mr Putin had claimed Crimea for his country in a speech laced with invectives against the West and a robust reassertion of Russian power. At the end of his 66-minute address , punctuated by repeated applause, came the signing of documents which, the Kremlin declared, transferred control of Crimea from Ukraine to Russia once and for all.

There were expressions of outrage from the US, the European Union and the government in Kiev, but no immediate ratcheting up of the international sanctions Moscow has publicly derided as ineffectual. The G7 group of countries are to hold an emergency summit, at President Barack Obama’s request, in the Hague next week, when announcements of further measures are expected.

Nato secretary-general Anders Fogh Rasmussen also condemned Russia’s move to annex Ukraine’s Crimea region, saying Moscow had embarked on a “dangerous path”. “Crimea’s annexation is illegal and illegitimate and Nato allies will not recognise it,” he said.

A Crimean woman watches Vladimir Putin address the Russian Federal Assembly (EPA) A Crimean woman watches Vladimir Putin address the Russian Federal Assembly (EPA)
During a visit to Warsaw, the US Vice-President, Joe Biden, accused President Putin of carrying out “nothing but a land grab” adding that “the world has seen through Russia’s actions and has rejected the flawed logic”. The White House declared that Mosow’s actions “are in violation of international law and Ukrainian constitution.”

The British Prime Minister, David Cameron, said: “It is completely unacceptable for Russia to use force to change borders based on a sham referendum held at the barrel of a Russian gun.”

The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, said that the referendum, the declaration of independence and Crimea’s “absorption into the Russian Federation” were “against international law”. France has threatened to halt the sale of two warships to Russia.

President Putin’s speech and the signing ceremony with the Crimean Prime Minister, Sergei Aksyonov, who had come to power in a putsch, had drawn a rapturous crowd at Simferpol’s Lenin Square which regularly burst into chants of “Russia, Russia”. They heard the President stress: “There was not one single military confrontation in Crimea, there were no victims.”

President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federation Council in Moscow's Kremlin (AP) President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federation Council in Moscow's Kremlin (AP)
Later, around a dozen troops arrived in two vehicles without registration numbers and started moving towards the base of the Mapping and Navigation Service at Kubanskaya Street. There were two prolonged bursts of gunfire, followed by several single shots. Soon afterwards soldiers inside started calling journalists.

One wanted to reveal: “A serviceman, Ukrainian, has been wounded in the neck and collarbone. Now we have barricaded ourselves on the second floor. The headquarters has been taken and the commander has been taken. They want us to put down our arms, but we don’t intend to surrender.”

The officer, believed to be a Captain Valentin Fedun, was later taken to a hospital for treatment. His father-in-law said the armed men had asked the Ukrainian soldiers to take their flag and depart before the shooting had started.

The dead Ukrainian officer is thought to have been outside the base when he was gunned down. The commander, Colonel Andriy Andryushin, and his remaining men were disarmed and arrested.

Local authorities presented a different version of what had taken place. A police officer said: “There were snipers who were using peoples’ homes to start shooting, that was the provocation. One of those injured was from the Self Defence Forces.”

Ukraine’s acting President, Oleksandr Turchynov, said: “We would like to warn President Putin, who is personally responsible for this act of provocation, that the political leadership of the Russian Federation will have to answer to the entire world for the crimes which they are committing today on the territory of our country.” The Russian annexation of Crimea, he said, echoed Nazi Germany’s takeover of Austria and Sudetenland.

At the Kremlin, it was President Putin who had accused the Ukrainian government, which came to power after the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych, as being riddled with “neo-Nazis” and “anti-semites” and having no legitimate authority.

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« Reply #151 on: March 19, 2014, 05:38:59 am »

Russian constitutional court approves treaty on Crimea's accession into Russia, court chairman says - Interfax
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« Reply #152 on: March 19, 2014, 07:42:33 am »

Russian forces storm Ukraine naval HQ in Crimea

- Russian troops and unarmed men stormed Ukraine's naval headquarters in the Crimean port of Sevastopol on Wednesday and raised the Russian flag in a tense but peaceful takeover that signals Moscow's intent to neutralize any armed opposition.

Russian soldiers, and so-called "self-defense" units of mainly unarmed volunteers who are supporting them across the Black Sea peninsula, moved in early in the morning and quickly took control.

Shortly after the incident, Ukraine's acting Defence Minister Ihor Tenyukh said in Kiev that the country's forces would not withdraw from Crimea even though Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a treaty to make it part of Russia.

But an hour later, Ukrainian servicemen, unarmed and in civilian clothing, began walking out of the headquarters.

Interfax Ukraine news agency said the commander of the Ukrainian navy, Admiral Serhiy Haiduk, was among those who left and was driven away by officers of Russia's FSB intelligence service. The report could not be independently confirmed.

The first group of servicemen was followed within a few minutes by a handful of troops in Ukrainian uniform, looking shell-shocked at the dramatic turn of events.

"This morning they stormed the compound. They cut the gates open, but I heard no shooting," said Oleksander Balanyuk, a captain in the navy.

"This thing should have been solved politically. Now all I can do is stand here at the gate. There is nothing else I can do," he told Reuters, appearing ashamed and downcast.

Russia's Itar-Tass news agency reported that Alexander Vitko, commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet which is based in Sevastopol, had been involved in talks at the headquarters.

Viktor Melnikov, in charge of the "self-defence" unit, said talks were going on to negotiate a surrender.

"We've had difficult negotiations with the command here," he told reporters. "Some Ukrainian servicemen are already leaving, without their uniforms, but there was no violence."

A Reuters reporter saw three armed men, possibly Russian soldiers in unmarked uniforms, at the gate and at least a dozen more inside the compound.

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In Kiev, pro-Western Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk ordered his first deputy prime minister and the acting defence minister to fly to Crimea to "resolve the situation," a senior minister told a cabinet meeting.

But Sergei Askyonov, Crimea's new prime minister since the Russian takeover, said Vitaly Yarema and Ihor Tenyukh were not wanted in Crimea and would not be permitted to land.

Thousands of Russian soldiers took control of Crimea in the buildup to a weekend referendum last weekend in which the region, with ethnic Russians in the majority, voted overwhelmingly to leave Ukraine and join Moscow.

Putin said his move to take control of Crimea was justified by what he calls "fascists" in Kiev who overthrew pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovich last month after three months of often deadly street protests.

Ukraine and Western governments have dismissed the referendum, which has triggered the worst crisis in East-West relations since the Cold War, as a sham, and say there is no justification for Putin's actions.

Moscow officially denies deploying extra troops and Russian soldiers in the region are wearing unmarked uniforms, making it difficult to verify exactly who is who on the ground.

In Crimea's main city, Simferopol, where one Ukrainian serviceman was killed after a shooting on Tuesday, the situation was calm on Wednesday.

It was the first death on the Black Sea peninsula from a military clash since the region came under Russian control three weeks ago. Ukrainian prime minister Yatseniuk denounced it as a "war crime".

Aksyonov, Crimea's pro-Moscow leader, suggested the incident was the fault of "provocateurs" opposed to the annexation of the region to Russia.

"Unfortunately, two people were killed," he said, speaking in Moscow. "I'm sure we will find these scoundrels. The security service of the Crimean Republic is investigating."

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« Reply #153 on: March 19, 2014, 09:52:35 am »

Russian forces seize western Crimea's Novoozerne naval base from Ukrainian forces - @AFP
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« Reply #154 on: March 19, 2014, 11:56:40 am »

Ukraine president gives Crimea leaders three hours to release navy chief

Ukraine's acting president on Wednesday said Crimea's separatist leaders had three hours to release the detained head of the ex-Soviet state's navy or face "an adequate response".

Acting president Oleksandr Turchynov said in a statement that "unless Admiral (Sergiy) Gayduk and all the other hostages -- both military and civilian ones -- are released, the authorities will carry out an adequate response... of a technical and technological nature."

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« Reply #155 on: March 19, 2014, 12:10:09 pm »

Russia signals concern at Estonia's treatment of its large ethnic Russian minority, comparing language policy in Estonia with what it said was a call in Ukraine to prevent the use of Russian - @Reuters

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« Reply #156 on: March 19, 2014, 01:18:07 pm »

Was watching CNN last night - and they spent ALL of their coverage on that "missing" Malasyian flight. Yes, ALL(and to boot, nothing but vain babbling and changing their stories).

Looks like Ukraine has been put on the backburner for awhile now. Good thing there's the internet.
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« Reply #157 on: March 19, 2014, 01:37:42 pm »

Was watching CNN last night - and they spent ALL of their coverage on that "missing" Malasyian flight. Yes, ALL(and to boot, nothing but vain babbling and changing their stories).

Looks like Ukraine has been put on the backburner for awhile now. Good thing there's the internet.

I think that is the whole purpose of the missing plane, to draw attention away from Crimea. Obama isnt looking to good over it.
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« Reply #158 on: March 19, 2014, 01:43:53 pm »

I think that is the whole purpose of the missing plane, to draw attention away from Crimea. Obama isnt looking to good over it.

I was thinking the same thing too - no, I don't think there is a FF in the making with this(like these Alex Jones/"truth" movement-types want to make you believe - which confirms even more that these "truth" movement-types like Jones are also working for the puppet masters).

Also - if you've seen the movie "Wag the Dog"(1997 Dustin Hoffman/Robert DeNiro movie), they did just that - create a headline news media distraction when their Prez admin was hit with scandals.
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« Reply #159 on: March 19, 2014, 02:14:04 pm »

Senior Russian diplomat says Moscow may change its stance in the Iranian nuclear talks amid tensions with the West over Ukraine - @AP.

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« Reply #160 on: March 19, 2014, 02:22:12 pm »

Senior Russian diplomat says Moscow may change its stance in the Iranian nuclear talks amid tensions with the West over Ukraine - @AP.



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« Reply #161 on: March 19, 2014, 02:23:31 pm »

Another Region Seeks to Break Off and Join Russia

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The Trans-Dniester region in Moldova is trying to break off and join Russia, the latest development in a series of events that have left Western leaders scrambling to respond.

The request from Russian loyalists in the Trans-Dniester region, which is recognized by the United Nations as part of Moldova and not an independent state, comes just one day after Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a treaty to absorb Crimea.

Moldova’s President Nicolae Timofti responded to the request by warning that any attempt by the area to break off and join Russia would be a “mistake.”

“This is an illegal body which has taken no decision on inclusion into Russia,” Timofti said, according to Reuters. “If Russia makes a move to satisfy such proposals, it will be making a mistake.”

The request for Russia’s parliament to draft legislation allowing the non-recognized republic to join the Russia Federation was drafted by speaker of the high council, Mikheil Burla, and sent to the Duma, Russia’s lower house, CNBC reported.

f the Trans-Dniester region sounds familiar, it’s because it already tried in 1996 to break off from Moldova. The area also tried in 2006 to gain its independence by holding a referendum vote in which 97 percent of the population voted to join Russia. However, the vote went nowhere because the international community refused to recognize its legitimacy.

It’s worth noting that the Trans-Dniester region actually wanted to remain in the Soviet Union during the time of its collapse, so this latest attempt to break away should not come as too much of a surprise.

Putin’s recent actions involving Ukraine and Crimea may have even added a new spark to the region’s desire to break from Moldova and be united with Russia, or so says Otilia Dhand, vice president at advisory and intelligence firm Teneo Intelligence.

“There are 550,000 citizens of citizens of Trans-Dniester who mostly also claim other citizenships. There are about 150,000 of them that claim dual citizenship with Russia and many others claim Ukrainian citizenship or Romanian so it is kind of a mixed picture,” Dhand told CNBC, adding that the region has been trying for two decades to join the Russian Federation

“Russia has roughly 1,000 soldiers based there and also some ammunition and equipment that comes with it. They are not such a substantial force as they are in Crimea and Russia does not have common borders with Trans-Dniester, so it would be difficult to service as a territory,” she said. “If they were interested in tactically taking it over – it would just really be for show. Should Russia choose to take Trans-Dniester over, it would be quite intimidating for Ukraine.”

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« Reply #162 on: March 19, 2014, 02:36:30 pm »

Ukraine Plans to Pull Military From Crimea, Conceding Loss

Bowing to the reality of the Russian military occupation of Crimea a day after Russia announced it was annexing the disputed peninsula, the Ukrainian government said on Wednesday that it had drawn up plans to evacuate all of its military personnel and their families and was prepared to relocate as many as 25,000 of them to mainland Ukraine.

Thousands of Ukrainian soldiers and sailors have been trapped on military bases and other installations here for more than two weeks, surrounded by heavily armed Russian military forces and loosely organized local militia.

While the provisional government in Kiev has insisted that Russia’s annexation of Crimea is illegal and has appealed to international supporters for help, the evacuation announcement by the head of the national security council, Andriy Parubiy, effectively amounted to a surrender of Crimea, at least from a military standpoint.

It came hours after militiamen, backed by Russian forces, seized the headquarters of the Ukrainian navy in Sevastopol and detained its commander.

Officers of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, which is also headquartered here, later entered the base through its main gates as Ukrainian military personnel streamed out carrying clothing and other personal belongings.

The takeover proceeded as anger intensified in the West over Russia’s move to annex Crimea, with calls for Russia’s expulsion from important international bodies such as the G-8 grouping of leading economic powers. At the same time, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. continued his effort to reassure American allies in the Baltic region, once part of the Soviet Union, that the United States would protect them from any aggression by Russia.

The United Nations said Wednesday that Ban Ki-moon, the secretary general, would fly to Moscow and Kiev, the capital of Ukraine, on Thursday and Friday for meetings with leaders, including President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, whose moves to reclaim Crimea have set off the biggest crisis in East-West relations since the Soviet Union’s demise two decades ago.

Mr. Ban has expressed disappointment over the Kremlin-backed weekend referendum in Crimea that created the basis for Russia’s annexation, but he has said nothing about whether he considers the Russian step to be illegal. The United States and other Western members of the Security Council, which was meeting later Thursday, proposed a resolution last Saturday declaring the referendum illegal but Russia vetoed that measure.

At the Ukrainian naval headquarters here, soldiers with machine guns, wearing green camouflage but still no identifying insignia, were deployed in and around the base. A large military truck parked just outside the base bore the black-and-white license plates of the Russian forces.

Although the gates were forced open during the initial storming of the base, there were no reports of shooting or injuries. And while there was no indication that the Ukrainian government was prepared to issue a formal surrender in Crimea, capitulation by military units surrounded throughout the peninsula seemed increasingly inevitable.

When asked why they did not return fire, one Ukrainian soldier leaving the base here said, “We had no order and no weapons.” Another said, “We met them empty-handed.”

On Tuesday evening, after reports that a shooting at another military installation, not far from the Crimean capital of Simferopol, had left at least one Ukrainian soldier dead, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry in Kiev issued a statement saying its troops had been authorized to use force to defend themselves.

At the base here in Sevastopol, however, the troops seemed to feel less of a threat of deadly harm, than the resolute sense of facing eviction at gunpoint.

Andrew Yankov, a member of a local self-defense group who was present during the takeover, described the action as “a big victory.”

“We stood here for weeks and now we’re finally successful,” Mr. Yankov said. “It’s also freedom for the guys inside. We took responsibility. They’re happy because they’re tired. They want to go home.”

At a far side of the base, local militia units appeared to be looting some equipment, removing a refrigerator through one gate, and throwing bags over the walls, which were then loaded onto a truck.

The base, likes other military installations across Crimea, has been surrounded since shortly after Russian forces occupied the region at the beginning of March.

The local militiamen have been guarding the perimeter of the base along with professional soldiers who have no identifying badges but whose equipment and organization leave little doubt they are Russian military personnel. The militiamen entered the base around 8 a.m. and an hour or so later hoisted a Russian flag on the main flagpole.

The seizure came a day after Mr. Putin reclaimed Crimea as a part of Russia, reversing what he described as a historical injustice made by the Soviet Union 60 years ago and brushing aside international condemnation that could leave Russia shunned internationally.

The United States and Western allies have begun imposing economic sanctions to punish Russia for the incursion into Crimea, but it is not clear that they are prepared for any action that would prevent the Russian annexation from moving forward.

On Wednesday, there were reports from several bases that Russian forces and local militias were gathering in anticipation of seizing control, in Novoozornoe, on a lake not far from the city of Yevpatoriaa on the western coast of Crimea.

Russia’s annexation of Crimea drew broad Western protest on Tuesday as governments scrambled to find a response to the Kremlin’s audacious moves, which have unfolded with remarkable haste since the stealthy takeover of the strategic peninsula began.

Speaking in Parliament on Wednesday, Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain said the world’s leading industrialized countries should consider expelling Russia permanently from the G-8 grouping. The United States, Britain and their allies in the older G-7 body are meeting in The Hague next week to debate further measures against Russia, which will not be present at the gathering.

“I think it’s important that we move together with our allies and partners and I think we should be discussing whether or not to expel Russia permanently from the G-8 if further steps are taken,” Mr. Cameron told Parliament, echoing a similar call several weeks ago by Secretary of State John Kerry. “That’s the meeting we’ll have on Monday and I think that’s the right way to proceed.”

Before the crisis in Crimea, Mr. Putin was scheduled to host a gathering of the G-8 countries in June in Sochi, where the Winter Olympics and Paralympic Games were held, but Western countries have suspended their participation.

On Thursday, leaders of the 28-nation European Union are scheduled to discuss a response to Russia’s moves.

“If we turn away from this crisis and don’t act,” Mr. Cameron said, “we will pay a very high price in the longer term.”

Germany’s government, by contrast, has expressed more caution, reflecting its deep intertwined economic relations with Russia. Although Chancellor Angela Merkel took a tough tone with Moscow in public last week, business executives in Germany are reluctant to jeopardize trade ties, and diplomats and officials steeped in decades of conciliation with Russia are hesitant to sever avenues for negotiation. High-level talks scheduled for April have not been canceled.

Nonetheless, the German government spokesman, Steffen Seibert, speaking Wednesday after Ms. Merkel’s weekly cabinet meeting, said that Russia was “pursuing a path of international isolation, and it is a path containing great dangers for the coexistence of states in Europe.”

He also gave the first official response to Mr. Putin’s appeal on Tuesday to ordinary Germans to support what he depicted as Russian reunification, just as Russia had supported German reunification in 1990.

German reunification had brought together two German states, Mr. Seibert said, while “Russia’s intervention by contrast is leading to a division of Ukraine.”

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KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine security chief: Ukraine plans military exercise with United States and Britain. @AP NewsAlert
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Russia's UN representative Vitaly Churkin to UN Security Council: Reunification with Crimea is something our people waited 6 decades for - @HannahAllam

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« Reply #165 on: March 19, 2014, 04:21:39 pm »

President Obama says US will not take military action in Ukraine against Russia - interview with @nbcsandiego via @thehill

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« Reply #166 on: March 19, 2014, 05:49:14 pm »

President Obama says US will not take military action in Ukraine against Russia - interview with @nbcsandiego via @thehill

Guess that gives the USSR the go ahead

THIS while they're still "looking" for that "missing" Malaysian airplane.

And yes, all of this was scripted from the get-go.
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« Reply #167 on: March 19, 2014, 06:08:24 pm »

Yet more proof that the globalists are working both sides of the fence...

Gorbachev: Crimean referendum "happy event"
http://news.yahoo.com/gorbachev-crimean-referendum-happy-event-093713215.html;_ylt=A0SO80ajISpTwkcA_IVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0cGViOG80BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQwNF8x

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March 18, 2014 5:37 AM

MOSCOW (AP) — Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev has hailed Crimea's vote to join Russia as a "happy event."

Gorbachev said in remarks carried Tuesday by online newspaper Slon.ru that the vote offered the Crimean residents the freedom of choice and justly reflected their will.

He said that Sunday's referendum showed that "people really wanted to return to Russia" and was a "happy event."

Gorbachev added that the Crimean referendum has set an example for people in Russian-speaking in eastern Ukraine, who also should decide their fate.

Gorbachev, who resigned as the Soviet president on Christmas Day 1991, has voiced regret that he was unable to stem the Soviet Union's collapse. He has criticized President Vladimir Putin's authoritarian policy, but said Tuesday that he supports his course in the Ukrainian crisis.
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« Reply #168 on: March 20, 2014, 06:20:42 am »

Found this interesting....

Will Ukraine's eastern regions eventually fall to Russia too? Russian TV channel REN apparently thinks so, expanding its report on Russian weather to include the cities of Donetsk, Luhansk and Kharkiv.



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11.30 In Germany, where Chancellor Angela Merkel has adopted a more cautious stance on sanctions against Russia than has Prime Minister David Cameron, opinion polls suggest much of the public agree with her. Tony Paterson reports from Berlin for the Telegraph:

Opinion polls have shown that 75 per cent of Germans fear that economic sanctions against Russia could have a negative impact on their economy and jobs. The Forsa polling organisation found that Germans “greatly feared” that sanctions would hit energy resources. Russia provides a third of Germany’s gas and oil supplies.

Forty four percent of Germans want their government to resolve the crisis by diplomatic means whereas 25 percent backed the idea of economic sanctions, according to Forsa.

The organisation also found that many Germans were not convinced that Crimea belonged to Ukraine rather than Russia. Seventy five percent of those polled thought that President Vladimir Putin was “power hungry, clever and strong”.

The Forschungsgruppe Wahlen public opinion research group found that many Germans thought that because the United States had in the past broken international law, Russia’s actions in the Crimea could not be so easily condemned. Sixty percent of those polled doubted that President Obama could solve the crisis.

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« Reply #170 on: March 20, 2014, 08:37:31 am »

Ukrainian border guards in Crimea have begun redeploying to regions on the mainland following the Russian annexation of the Black Sea peninsula.

"We have started the gradual redeployment of our servicemen to the territory of Kherson and Mikolayiv regions," Pavlo Shysholin, deputy head of the state border guard service, told a news conference.

Mr Shysholin also said about 1,000 civilians had so far left Crimea

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Russia's State Duma lower house of parliament overwhelmingly votes to approve a treaty to annex Crimea from Ukraine - @Reuters

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« Reply #171 on: March 20, 2014, 09:27:27 am »


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14.00 Our correspondent Bruno Waterfield in Brussels has obtained details of the draft list of individuals expected to be targeted for sanctions by the EU at the two-day summit beginning today:

European Union leaders are expected to add up to 12 names to a sanctions blacklist targeting Vladimir Putin’s cronies, including the television presenter who warned that Russia could turn the US “into radioactive ashes”.

The Telegraph understands that Dmitry Kiselyov, the head of Rossia Segodnya, or Russia Today, a state funded news organisation that is close to the Russian President, is on the draft list that will be debated by EU ambassadors this evening.

Mr Kiselyov, who is often described as the “Kremlin’s chief propagandist”, was catapulted to international notoriety last week when he boasted that “Russia is the only country in the world that is realistically capable of turning the US into radioactive ash”.

He is expected to be sanctioned as a state official rather than a journalist, according to diplomatic sources speaking in Brussels on Friday, but his name could be removed during talks tonight amid concerns that it will hand Russia a propagnada coup.

Also on the EU blacklist of individuals to be hit by travel bans and asset freezes are five people including Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s deputy prime minister, aides in President Putin’s inner circle and politicians who are allies of the president.

Mr Rogozin has mocked Western sanctions as the action of “pranksters” targeting people who do not regularly travel to or have bank accounts in the West.

The inclusion of Mr Rogozin's name has run into opposition from Italy and Spain, who are concerned it will lead to retaliatory measures from Russia.

The names also include Vladislav Surkov, a close aide to Mr Putin, who has mocked sanctions, saying he will “lose nothing.”

Sergey Glazyev, an adviser to Mr Putin, Valentina Matviyenko, the head of the Russian Federation Council and Yelena Mizulina, a Russian MP, are also expected to be on the new EU list.

After European leaders meet on Thursday night, the EU sanctions lists is expected to have grown to 33 names. They are not expected to include businessmen and oligarchs because the EU’s legal base for sanctions is “too narrow”.

The EU has so far restricted sanctions to “natural persons responsible for actions which undermine or threaten the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine, and of natural persons associated with them”.


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« Reply #172 on: March 20, 2014, 10:53:21 am »

Here is the full, updated list of Russian individuals - and one Russian bank - targeted for sanctions as announced by Barack Obama in the last hour:

BUSHMIN, Evgeni Viktorovich (a.k.a. BUSHMIN, Evgeny; a.k.a. BUSHMIN, Yevgeny); DOB 10 Oct 1958; POB Lopatino, Sergachiisky Region, Russia; Deputy Speaker of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation; Chairman of the Council of the Federation Budget and Financial Markets Committee (individual) [UKRAINE2].

DZHABAROV, Vladimir Michailovich; DOB 29 Sep 1952; First Deputy Chairman of the International Affairs Committee of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation (individual) [UKRAINE2].

FURSENKO, Andrei Alexandrovich (a.k.a. FURSENKO, Andrei; a.k.a. FURSENKO, Andrey); DOB 17 Jul 1949; POB St. Petersburg, Russia; Aide to the President of the Russian Federation (individual) [UKRAINE2].

GROMOV, Alexei; DOB 1960; POB Zagorsk (Sergiev, Posad), Moscow Region, Russia; First Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office; First Deputy Head of Presidential Administration; First Deputy Presidential Chief of Staff (individual) [UKRAINE2].

IVANOV, Sergei (a.k.a. IVANOV, Sergey); DOB 31 Jan 1953; POB St. Petersburg, Russia; Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office (individual) [UKRAINE2].

IVANOV, Victor Petrovich (a.k.a. IVANOV, Viktor); DOB 12 May 1950; alt. DOB 1952; POB Novgorod, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

KOHZIN, Vladimir Igorevich; DOB 28 Feb 1959; POB Troitsk, Chelyabinsk Oblast, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

KOVALCHUK, Yuri Valentinovich (a.k.a. KOVALCHUK, Yury Valentinovich); DOB 25 Jul 1951; POB Saint Petersburg, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

MIRONOV, Sergei Mikhailovich (a.k.a. MIRONOV, Sergei); DOB 14 Feb 1953; POB Pushkin, Saint Petersburg, Russia; Member of the Council of the State Duma; Leader of A Just Russia Party; Member of the State Duma Committee on Housing Policy and Housing and Communal Services (individual) [UKRAINE2].

NARYSHKIN, Sergey Yevgenyevich (a.k.a. NARYSHKIN, Sergei); DOB 27 Oct 1954; POB Saint Petersburg, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

OZEROV, Viktor Alekseevich (a.k.a. OZEROV, Viktor Alexeyevich); DOB 05 Jan 1958; POB Abakan, Khakassia, Russia; Chairman of the Security and Defense Federation Council of the Russian Federation (individual) [UKRAINE2].

PANTELEEV, Oleg Evgenevich (a.k.a. PANTELEEV, Oleg); DOB 21 Jul 1952; POB Zhitnikovskoe, Kurgan Region, Russia; First Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Parliamentary Issues (individual) [UKRAINE2].

ROTENBERG, Arkady; DOB 15 Dec 1951; POB St. Petersburg, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

ROTENBERG, Boris; DOB 03 Jan 1957; POB St. Petersburg, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

RYZHKOV, Nikolai Ivanovich (a.k.a. RYZHKOV, Nikolai); DOB 28 Sep 1929; POB Duleevka, Donetsk Region, Ukraine; Senator in the Russian Upper House of Parliament; Member of the Committee for Federal Issues, Regional Politics and the North of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation (individual) [UKRAINE2].

SERGUN, Igor Dmitrievich; DOB 28 Mar 1957; Lieutenant General; Chief of the Main Directorate of the General Staff (GRU); Deputy Chief of the General Staff (individual) [UKRAINE2].

TIMCHENKO, Gennady (a.k.a. TIMCHENKO, Gennadiy Nikolayevich; a.k.a. TIMCHENKO, Gennady Nikolayevich; a.k.a. TIMTCHENKO, Guennadi), Geneva, Switzerland; DOB 09 Nov 1952; POB Leninakan, Armenia; alt. POB Gyumri, Armenia; nationality Finland; alt. nationality Russia; alt. nationality Armenia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

TOTOONOV, Aleksandr Borisovich (a.k.a. TOTOONOV, Alexander; a.k.a. TOTOONOV, Alexander B.); DOB 03 Mar 1957; POB Ordzhonikidze, North Ossetia, Russia; alt. POB Vladikavkaz, North Ossetia, Russia; Member of the Committee on Culture, Science, and Information, Federation Council of the Russian Federation (individual) [UKRAINE2].

YAKUNIN, Vladimir; DOB 30 Jun 1948; POB Vladimir Oblast, Russia (individual) [UKRAINE2].

ZHELEZNYAK, Sergei Vladimirovich (a.k.a. ZHELEZNYAK, Sergei; a.k.a. ZHELEZNYAK, Sergey); DOB 30 Jul 1970; POB Saint Petersburg, Russia; Deputy Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation (individual) [UKRAINE2].

The following entity has been added to OFAC's SDN List:

BANK ROSSIYA (f.k.a. AKTSIONERNY BANK RUSSIAN FEDERATION), 2 Liter A Pl. Rastrelli, Saint Petersburg 191124, Russia; SWIFT/BIC ROSY RU 2P; Website www.abr.ru; Email Address bank@abr.ru [UKRAINE2].

15.37 Here is Obama's statement in full on the imposition of fresh sanctions on Russia:




The Russian Duma has ratified the treaty to incorporate Crimea into Russian territory, the penultimate legislative hurdle for the annexation of the strategic Black Sea peninsula. The treaty must still be given the go-ahead by the upper house of the Russian parliament tomorrow, but given that 445 out of 446 members of the lower house approved it, the vote is a foregone conclusion.

MPs got to their feet for a standing ovation and sang the national anthem after the vote this afternoon.


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« Reply #173 on: March 20, 2014, 11:01:45 am »

Russia has retaliated against the latest round of US sanctions by announcing its own sanctions against US officials, including entry bans.

"There should be no doubt: each hostile attack will be met in an adequate manner," the Russian foreign ministry said, saying it was targeting nine Obama aides and senators.

Moscow's blacklist includes Obama aides Caroline Atkinson, Daniel Pfeiffer and Benjamin Rhodes and senators Mary Landrieu, John McCain and Daniel Coats.

Kirit Radia, the ABC News correspondent in Moscow, tweets:


Notice how Russia is viewing these as attacks, and Obama is planning another vacation...
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« Reply #174 on: March 20, 2014, 12:57:05 pm »

Old school communist Russia sabre rattling to get support from their comrades. Thought they were done with that silliness years ago.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #175 on: March 20, 2014, 01:00:40 pm »

Old school communist Russia sabre rattling to get support from their comrades. Thought they were done with that silliness years ago.  Roll Eyes

I dont know, i do remeber an old story about how the fall of the USSR was a deception to put the west at ease, and then Russia would strike out and conquer the west. Ill have to look into that. I thin it was before the 2000's. it was a story about how i believe it was Putin, or another high ranking Ruso, had a map of Russia in his office and had Alaska as part of it.  Huh
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« Reply #176 on: March 20, 2014, 01:12:42 pm »

Pro-Russian crowds have seized two Ukrainian warships and Ukraine has said its troops are being threatened in Crimea, the Associated Press has reported.

Shots were fired but there were no casualties as the Ukrainian corvette Khmelnitsky was seized in Sevastopol, according to an AP photographer at the scene. Another ship, the Lutsk, was also surrounded by pro-Russian forces.

The Ukrainian defence ministry had no immediate information on the incidents.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10707473/Ukraine-crisis-live.html

Russian troops storm Ukraine's warship in Crimea:

Ukraine's defence ministry on Thursday said around 20 gunmen seized a Ukrainian warship, the Ternopil, in the port of Sevastopol in Crimea.

"The ship has been taken," Vladislav Seleznyov, the defence ministry's spokesman in Crimea, said on his Facebook page, after earlier telling AFP: "The assault has begun".

On Facebook, Seleznyov said pro-Moscow armed men and Russian soldiers cordoned off the area, while a boat with the gunmen on board approached the Ternopil and stormed it.

"Stun grenades were used during the assault and automatic fire was heard," he said.

Called by AFP, an officer on board the Slavutich, a second Ukrainian warship next to the Ternopil, did not answer.

Seleznyov did not say whether the Slavutich was also seized by Russian forces.

The commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, Alexander Vitko, had reportedly boarded the Slavutich earlier on Thursday in an attempt to negotiate a surrender.

The two warships had been blockaded in the port by the Russian navy and had distanced themselves from the dock in an attempt to prevent an assault. [AFP]

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« Reply #177 on: March 20, 2014, 01:13:12 pm »

I wonder if that will get Obama off the golf course....  Cool
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« Reply #178 on: March 20, 2014, 01:15:47 pm »

Old school communist Russia sabre rattling to get support from their comrades. Thought they were done with that silliness years ago.  Roll Eyes

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The West lost the Cold War when all was said and done, FYI - Mikael Gorbachev was given his OWN CENTER in San Francisco.

If anything - the fall of the Soviet Union ended up opening the doors to building global government(as technology ended up exploding exponentially).
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had a map of Russia in his office and had Alaska as part of it.

That's an old dispute that goes WAY back to before the Alaska purchase I think. Some Russians consider their property to extend that far into Alaska, so it doesn't surprise me they have maps like that.
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