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« on: March 27, 2014, 10:54:22 pm »

Bryan exposed this today...

Numbers 5:27 TNIV(2011)
If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

Numbers 5:27 ESV
And when he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has broken faith with her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman shall become a curse among her people.

Numbers 5:27 CEB
When he has made her drink the water, if she has defiled herself and has broken faith with her husband, then the water that brings the curse will enter her, causing bitterness, and her womb will discharge and she will miscarry. The woman will be a curse among her people.

Numbers 5:27 The Message
If she has defiled herself in being unfaithful to her husband, when she drinks the water that delivers a curse, it will enter her body and cause acute pain; her belly will swell and her womb shrivel. She will be cursed among her people.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 10:59:11 pm »

This is what the 1611 AUTHORIZED VERSION, the King James Bible, Says...

Numbers 5:27 KJV
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled , and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell , and her thigh shall rot : and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

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Also - notice how some of these perverted versions will change "her thigh shall rot" to either "her thigh shall fall away", or delete the words talking about her thigh altogether.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 05:48:03 am »

I don't think it's supporting abortion.

But here's an idea. Has anybody bothered to ask a Jew what that verse means, in the context of a Jew abiding by the law?
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 07:14:03 am »

I don't think it's supporting abortion.

But here's an idea. Has anybody bothered to ask a Jew what that verse means, in the context of a Jew abiding by the law?

I was talking about how the modern-day perversions translated Numbers 5:27 - the KJB doesn't even mention womb, but the modern-day perversions do...and in a bad way.

Numbers 5:27 TNIV(2011)
If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

Numbers 5:27 The Message
If she has defiled herself in being unfaithful to her husband, when she drinks the water that delivers a curse, it will enter her body and cause acute pain; her belly will swell and her womb shrivel. She will be cursed among her people.

Numbers 5:27 KJV
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled , and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell , and her thigh shall rot : and the woman shall be a curse among her people.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 02:53:54 pm »

http://theweek.com/article/index/259823/catholicism-george-w-bush-and-the-cluelessness-of-the-religious-right
Catholicism, George W. Bush, and the cluelessness of the religious right

Bush's theological-political vision lies in tatters. But many on the right are unable to understand why.

4/11/14

Once upon a time, the religious right's leading intellectuals told themselves an inspiring story. It went something like this: From the time of the Puritans all the way down to the early 1970s, American public life was decisively shaped by the moral and spiritual witness of the Protestant Mainline's leading churches: The Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, Baptists, and Episcopalians.

But then the Great Collapse began, as these venerable churches sold their souls to the counterculture, abandoned the moral and religious tenets of historical Christianity, embraced a series of increasingly left-wing and anti-American causes, and saw their numbers (and then their cultural influence) plummet. Today these churches are an intellectual and demographic shell of their former selves.

This was a potentially disastrous development, depriving America of the theologically grounded public philosophy that it needs in order to thrive. But as luck — or providence — would have it, the decline of the Mainline churches set in at the precise moment when two other monumental cultural and religious developments unfolded: The rise of a politicized form of Protestant evangelicalism and a revival of intellectual and spiritual energy in the Catholic Church under Pope John Paul II. The time was ripe for evangelicals and Catholics to come together to form a successor to the Mainline churches.

The public philosophy promulgated by this new-fangled amalgam of evangelicalism and Catholicism (with the former supplying the foot soldiers and the latter providing the ideas) would be staunchly opposed to abortion and euthanasia. It would be strongly anti-communist. It would be passionately pro-capitalist. It would favor using military force to promote democracy. And it would re-describe the United States, its history, and its form of government in providential-theological terms, with the rights espoused in the nation's founding documents declared to derive directly from medieval concepts of natural law.

Once the country (or at least a sizable majority) embraced this public philosophy — turning it into a governing philosophy — the United States would supposedly flourish as never before, protecting the unborn, unleashing economic liberty at home, defending democracy and fighting tyranny abroad, and most of all bringing the nation back to its properly Christian roots after the silly season of the 1960s.

It is exceedingly odd that Joseph Bottum has written a book — An Anxious Age: The Post-Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of America — devoted to elaborating this story as if it were original to him, when in fact it is derived almost entirely from the writings of the man for whom both of us once worked: The late Fr. Richard John Neuhaus.

You see, I once edited Neuhaus' monthly magazine First Things. When I quit to write a book denouncing the ideological project outlined above, Neuhaus brought on Bottum (then the literary editor of The Weekly Standard) as my successor. When Neuhaus died in January 2009, Bottum became editor-in-chief of the magazine. (Twenty-one months later he was summarily dismissed by its governing board for reasons that have never been publicly explained.)

Bottum, a published poet, is a gifted prose stylist. That gives a distinctive flair to his version of the story. But the story itself, in every detail, comes straight from the writings of Neuhaus and his small circle of ideological compatriots: Michael Novak, George Weigel, and Robert P. George foremost among them.

In Bottum's hands, no less than in the essays and books in which it was originally formulated, the story has some explanatory power. The decline of the Mainline churches is indeed a significant event in recent American cultural and political history — and one that has received insufficient attention from both scholars and intellectuals. (My colleague Michael Brendan Dougherty's thoughtful reflections on Bottum's treatment of the topic can be read here.)

But the story also obscures far more than it clarifies. For one thing, Bottum can't seem to figure out if the problems he identifies with post-Mainline America (including the absence of a unifying, overarching moral consensus and the subsequent rise in acrimonious conflict in our political culture) are a result of Protestant Christianity's inability to defend itself against an aggressive form of secularism, or if, instead, what we call secularism is actually just a desiccated form of Protestantism (hence the reference to a "post-Protestant ethic" in his subtitle). Either way, Protestant Christianity is to blame for America's problems.

Which is why Bottum (following Neuhaus and the others) turns to Catholicism for a solution.

The closest we've come to seeing this theological-political vision in action was in George W. Bush's second inaugural address. You remember: It was a speech that consisted of a series of sweeping assertions about America's God-appointed task to end "tyranny in our world." (Bush made more than 50 references to "freedom" and "liberty" in a speech of 2,000 words.)

For Bottum, this was "the most purely philosophical address in the history of America's inaugurations," one that deployed "a Catholic philosophical vocabulary" rooted in natural law theory to "express a moral seriousness the nation needs."

That's one way to look at it.

Here's another: The speech was a crude expression of American parochialism and pious self-congratulation — the kind of address you'd expect from someone who believed toppling Saddam Hussein was a sufficient condition for creating a functioning democracy in Iraq, and who thinks that presidential rhetoric can rise no higher than paraphrasing the lyrics to "Onward Christian Soldiers." It was the speech of a simple-minded man leading a simple-minded administration.

The most interesting and original thing in Bottum's book is a new-found pessimism about the practical prospects for the theological-political engagement he still favors. But I would be more impressed with this darkening mood if it grew out of a realization that great political leadership involves far more than moralistic sermonizing — and that something as partisan and sectarian as a Catholicized version of the Republican Party platform could never serve as the unifying, overarching moral vision of a pluralistic liberal democracy.

Instead, we're left with vague, evasive statements about how "Catholicism as a system of thought proved too foreign" to play its appointed role as cheerleader for American exceptionalism.

Poor Joseph Bottum. Poor religious right.

They're down for the count, splayed out on the mat. And they haven't got a clue about what the hell happened.
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http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/40519-why-do-so-many-churchgoers-have-abortions
Why Do So Many Churchgoers Have Abortions?
10:30AM EDT 8/6/2013   

Several months ago, one of my co-workers was speaking with a Christian university campus minister about the issue of abortion, and he dismissed the topic with a wave.

“Abortion isn’t prevalent at our school," he said. "Contraception is widely available, but our students also take sexual purity to heart.”

I was a bit suspicious of his answer, so I spoke with a recent graduate of the same university about her thoughts.

“I suspect one in three women on campus have had an abortion,” she said matter-of-factly. “It may be higher. Christian kids don’t want to deal with the shame a pregnancy brings. So they abort instead of tell their parents.”

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

Though the study suggests that attending religious services regularly indicates a lower-than-average rate of abortion, the fact remains: Professing Christians abort their children in large numbers. We estimate one in three adults in America today is the parent of an aborted child, and that rate is likely the same both inside and outside the church.

More times than I can count, I’ve heard this remorseful comment from a post-abortive parent: “I knew it was wrong to abort my child. I was brought up in the church and was pro-life. But I did it anyway.”

Why do Christians, many of whom profess to honor the sanctity of life, still abort their children? Why do they promote a pro-life worldview publicly but, when facing an unplanned pregnancy themselves, lose their conviction and take the life of their child?

As many Christian apologists have stated, we act according to what we believe. Christians abort their children because they do not really believe God is the author of life, that every life is sacred and of infinite value, and that there is no such thing as an unplanned pregnancy to the sovereign God.

Instead, the perceived or real shame of an unplanned pregnancy, the financial impact of a child, the relationship strain or just the sheer “inconvenience” of a baby trump the Bible and God. We fear man more than we fear God.

Abortion is, at its core, a spiritual issue. Thus, the reason Christians abort their children is their lack of understanding and acceptance of the gospel of the kingdom.

Modern evangelicalism in America focuses on praying a prayer for salvation, “committing your life to Jesus” or accepting Him as Lord and Savior. We believe that sharing the good news that Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead and desires a relationship with us completes our obligation to spread the gospel.

And while these facts about Christ are completely true, central to the Christian message and necessary for our salvation, it is not the fullness of the gospel. It is the core but not the entirety.

Colossians 1:18-20 says, “And he [Christ] is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross” (NIV).

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Colossians 1:18  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20  And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.


In When Helping Hurts by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert, they remark, “In this passage Jesus Christ is described as the Creator, Sustainer, and Reconciler of everything. Yes, Jesus died for our souls sins, but He also died to reconcile—that is, to put into right relationship—all that He created. ... The curse is cosmic in scope, bringing decay, brokenness, and death to every speck of the universe. But as King of kings and Lord of lords, Jesus is making all things new! This is the good news of the gospel.”

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WARNING!!!! Graphic Pictures Inside at Top of Link!

http://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/is-joel-osteen-within-miles-of-clinic-where-babies-who-survive-abortions-are-murdered/
Is Joel Osteen within miles of clinic where babies who survive abortions are murdered ?

50 churches within 2 miles of “Texas Gosnell’s” late-term abortion clinic (Osteen’s – 3 miles)

6/6/13

“The worst part of this poster, in my opinion, is the fine print at the bottom: “This child was murdered in Texas by abortionist Douglas Karpen within 2 miles of 50 visible churches.

Lakewood Church, which boasts a weekly attendance of 43,500, and where Joel Osteen is pastor, is located only three miles from this Houston clinic.

This is just one example. Were snapshots taken inside very abortion clinic in America we would see photos as bloody and graphic as these, although many of the babies would be so small and ground to a pulp they wouldn’t be recognizable. As if that makes a difference.

I’m willing to bet every abortion clinic in America has churches right around the corner, totally ignoring the plight of babies hacked to death – within singing distance. It’s maddening.”

“If the abortion lobby thinks this issue is going away,
they are literally whistling past the graveyard.”
Mark Crutcher, President, Life Dynamics

Life Dynamics Inc. a national pro-life organization located in Denton, Texas, is commending Texas District 61, State Representative Phil King for calling for a full investigation of late term abortion doctor Douglas Karpen.

On May 3, 2013, Life Dynamics recorded an interview with three of Karpen’s former employees in which they admitted to participating in numerous instances in which babies were being born alive and killed during abortion procedures at Karpen’s Houston abortion clinic.

A portion of that interview can be viewed here:



After viewing the video, Rep. King sent a request to Life Dynamics for the unedited raw footage of the interview, which Life Dynamics provided on DVD.

Rep. King informed Life Dynamics that his office then mailed that DVD to Lt. Richard Kleczynski with the Homicide Division of the Houston Police Department. He also sent a letter to Ms. Mari Robinson, executive director of the Texas Medical Board, and David L. Lakey MD., Commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, requesting a full investigation. These letters were co-signed by 20 Texas lawmakers (listed below).

“We strongly support a full investigation into the allegations of Dr. Karpen. As a state, we must ensure that the health and safety of women and children are being protected by laws and regulations in place,” King wrote to the agencies.

Mark Crutcher, President of Life Dynamics, reacted to the King letter saying, “If the abortion lobby thinks this issue is going away, they are literally whistling past the graveyard.”

Crutcher continues, “One thing that was often overlooked about the conviction and life sentence recently given to abortionist Kermit Gosnell, is that eight of his employees also received long prison sentences for their roles in what he was doing. Today, the abortion lobby is in “damage control mode” and telling anyone who will listen that Gosnell is an aberration and that every other abortionist in America is Mr. Clean. But the people who actually work in these places know better, and they are beginning to fear that they could be the next ones dragged into a courtroom wearing handcuffs and leg irons.”
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 07:15:56 am »

7 Arguments Some Christians Use to Support Abortion Rights

Since the Bible clearly is against abortion, why do some Christians—and, in fact, some mainline denominations—favor abortion? Let me highlight the main arguments of pro-choice advocates here and also provide a Christian response to each one.

Abortion is acceptable because it is legal. There is a difference between what may or may not be legal and what may or may not be moral. The fact that abortion is currently legal in the U.S. does not by definition make it morally right.

Biblical evidence against abortion is lacking or absent entirely. Pro-choice advocates say that if God wanted us to be against abortion, both the Old and New Testaments would contain clear statements against abortion, but they don't. But just because the Bible may be silent on a matter does not mean that it approves of the matter in question. Ancient Jews and Christians may not have felt the need to include an open statement against the pagan practice of abortion, because they inherently found it repulsive and assumed there was no need to include a direct statement against it.

What other arguments are used to support the pro-choice view? Scott Rae offers the following arguments, which I include here with my own commentary on each point:

1. A woman has the right to do with her own body whatever she chooses. This takes us back to the overarching debate over abortion—the question of rights. Those who favor abortion see the woman's right as supreme, while those who oppose it champion the rights of the unborn—not by denying the rights of the woman, but by acknowledging that the rights question has to do with two people, not just one.

2. If abortion becomes illegal, we'll return to the dangerous days of the back-alley butchers. This is not a valid argument against abortion per se, but against the seeming consequences that will supposedly happen if abortion is made illegal. It fails to address the central question—is the fetus a person or not?

3. Forcing women, especially poor ones, to continue their pregnancies will create overwhelming financial hardship. Again, this argument doesn't address the key question about whether or not the fetus is a person.

4. Society should not force women to bring unwanted children into the world. Simply because a child is unwanted does not mean that the baby is not a person or does not have any rights.

5. Society should not force women to bring severely handicapped children into the world. Percentagewise, very few on-demand abortions that are done fall into this category. This argument also avoids the question of personhood—if the fetus is a person, even one with a deformity or other disability, does that mean such a disabled person doesn't have rights? This line of reasoning puts us dangerously on the path of eugenics—controlled breeding or even the elimination of people deemed not worthy of life. Also, who are we to say that a baby with a deformity or other disability can't live a meaningful, fulfilling life and make positive contributions to society?

6. Society should not force women who are pregnant from **** or incest to continue their pregnancies. Do you see a pattern here? This argument also sidesteps the question of whether or not the fetus is a person—an innocent human being with rights of his or her own. No one is saying that **** and incest are acceptable—they most certainly are not—but as the old saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right. Why kill a child made in God's image?

Remain Neutral

Remaining neutral can be tempting for Christians who, out of a desire to avoid tension, don't take a stand on issues like abortion. But abortion involves serious questions about matters of life and death. God has called us to engage culture and use our minds to seek to understand His will in this world. If we remain silent and neutral on crucial questions of our day, we're hardly being the salt or light God has called us to be.

But what can Christians really do about abortion? Here are some actions we can take:

1. Because abortion is a significant issue of our time, we should seek to understand it and not be afraid to engage in calm discussions of the issue with those who are in favor of it.

2. We should seek to lovingly understand one another on the question of abortion. We should take seriously the biblical insights on abortion, as well as key theological principles such as the image of God in human beings.

3. We should not neglect the power of prayer when it comes to the issue of abortion, as well as the issue of getting along with one another.

4. We should make sure that every woman considering abortion receives the wise biblical counsel she deserves, and every woman should be made aware of other—and far less drastic—measures available to her (the possibilities of adoption or keeping the child).

Whatever action we decide to take, we should always by motivated by genuine Christian compassion, not the desire to win an argument.

http://www.charismanews.com/culture/46509-7-arguments-some-christians-use-to-support-abortion-rights
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4. Society should not force women to bring unwanted children into the world. Simply because a child is unwanted does not mean that the baby is not a person or does not have any rights.

5. Society should not force women to bring severely handicapped children into the world. Percentagewise, very few on-demand abortions that are done fall into this category. This argument also avoids the question of personhood—if the fetus is a person, even one with a deformity or other disability, does that mean such a disabled person doesn't have rights? This line of reasoning puts us dangerously on the path of eugenics—controlled breeding or even the elimination of people deemed not worthy of life. Also, who are we to say that a baby with a deformity or other disability can't live a meaningful, fulfilling life and make positive contributions to society?

And that's exactly why they're pushing this "mental health" agenda now - so that they can continue to push their eugenics program(like abortion).

No, NOONE is "born" mentally-ill. It's largely been b/c of the vaccinations and the poisoning in the food supply.

Romans 9:20  Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Rom 9:21  Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2015, 08:49:57 pm »

Look at the states where most of the "unwanted" pregnancies are!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/states-most-unwanted-babies-150000073.html
1/27/15
Which States Have the Most Unwanted Babies?

The battle over abortion rights has resurfaced recently, as the new Republican-controlled Congress had to shelve a bill banning most abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. But a new report from the nonprofit Guttmacher Institute, a think tank focused on reproductive health, offers some news that should be encouraging to those on both sides of the abortion debate: Between 2006 and 2010, the rate of unintended pregnancies declined in most states.

In 28 of the 41 states for which 2006 and 2010 data were available, the rate of unintended pregnancies dropped by 5 percent of more. Only one state — West Virginia — saw an increase of 5 percent or more. That was a stark reversal of the trend from 2002 to 2006, when 16 states saw their rates of unintended pregnancies rise by 5 percent or more.

Even so, the report finds that as of 2010, more than half of all pregnancies in 28 states were still unintended. State by state, the share of pregnancies that were unintended ranged from a low of 36 percent in Utah to 62 percent in Mississippi and the District of Columbia. Adjusting for different population sizes, the rate of unintended pregnancies per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44 ranged from 32 in New Hampshire to 61 in Hawaii and New York and 62 in Delaware. The data in the Guttmacher Institute come from state surveys of women who delivered a baby recently.



“Unintended pregnancy rates were generally higher in the South (Georgia, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Virginia) and Southwest (Texas, New Mexico), and in densely populated states (Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, New York),” the report said. In a statement accompanying the report, Kathryn Kost, a Guttmacher Insitute senior research associate who co-authored the study, said the higher rates in those states likely reflect demographic and socioeconomic differences.

The reasons for changes from 2006 to 2010 may be more complex. It may be worth keeping in mind that the years between 2006 and 2010 saw a financial crisis and the worst recession in generations, which might have led some Americans to delay or be more careful about getting pregnant. The use of the most effective contraceptive methods may also have increased, and that may have been a factor, according to the report.

The Guttmacher study also notes that across the states for which 2010 data were available, unintended pregnancies were more likely to be “mistimed” than unwanted. Roughly a quarter to a third of pregnancies were unwanted in each state. An earlier Guttmacher Institute report estimated that publicly funded family planning services helped prevent 2.2 million unintended pregnancies in 2010. Those pregnancies would have resulted in more than 1.1 million unplanned births and 760,000 abortions, according to the institute.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/08/pope-francis-abortions_n_7244630.html
5/8/15
Pope Francis To Send Out Priests To Forgive The 'Sin' Of Women Who Have Had Abortions

Pope Francis is reportedly planning to offer a special pardon of sins to women who have undergone abortions, along with the doctors and NURSES

 who helped them with that choice.

As part of his upcoming Holy Year of Mercy, the pontiff plans to send specially TRAINED

 priests as “missionaries of mercy” to Catholic parishes around the world. The army of priests will reportedly hear these women’s confessions and absolve them of the “sin of a procured abortion,” the Irish Times reports. The forgiveness can also be given to HEALTHCARE

 workers who perform abortions.

Official Catholic doctrine places abortion in a special class of sins that leads to excommunication, a banishment from the life of the church that is considered one of its most serious punishments. Usually, only bishops or the Pope can offer forgiveness for these types of sins.

Pope Francis’ stance on the legality of abortion is in line with that of his predecessors, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and Saint John Paul II. During a Vatican meeting with doctors and ethicists last fall, Francis called abortion a “sin against God.”

But Francis has also placed a strong emphasis on mercy. In the past, he’s criticized church leaders for becoming “obsessed” with hot-button issues like abortion and same-sex marriage, instead of focusing on making sure the church is a “home for all.”

Archbishop Rino Fisichella, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting New Evangelization, is in charge of organizing events for the Holy Year, which is slated TO BEGIN

 in December. He said that the priests chosen for this mission will have to “be patient” and have “an understanding of human fragility,” the Catholic Herald REPORTS

.

Leaders of the Catholic Church in America have been strong opponents of abortion rights for decades. Most recently, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of the plaintiffs in the Hobby Lobby case, who argued against mandatory HEALTH CARE

 coverage of drugs they believed were abortifacients.

Patti Miller, author of “Good Catholics: The Battle Over Abortion In The Catholic Church,” told HuffPost she suspects church leaders in the U.S. may not react favorably to the pope’s new plan.

“By my CALCULATION, they’ve spent 40 years building up the idea abortions are non-negotiable things, that a woman can never do it,” Miller told HuffPost. “It gets to the heart of Francis’ papacy, his pastoral and progressive approach to forgiving people.”

In the pews, American Catholics CONTINUE to have mixed views on the issue. Forty-six percent of Catholics agree that abortion should be legal in all or most cases, according to the Public Religion Research Institute. About 47 percent believe abortion should be illegal in all or most cases.

And despite the church’s official stance, Catholic women are still exercising their reproductive rights. According to a REPORT from the Guttmacher Institute, Catholic women have abortions at the same rate as all American women.

“The Catholic Church also officially prohibits contraception,” Miller said. “You can’t use contraception and you can’t get an abortion, so the Catholic hierarchy doesn’t have a lot of credibility here. It just doesn’t leave women with a lot of options.”
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Pope Francis To Send Out Priests To Forgive The 'Sin' Of Women Who Have Had Abortions

Mar 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Mat 9:1 And he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.
Mat 9:2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
Mat 9:3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
Mat 9:4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?
Mat 9:5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?
Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

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