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« on: May 31, 2014, 10:51:04 am »

http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/sodomy

SOD'OMY, n. A crime against nature.

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Yes, this is ALL the 1828 Webster's says about sodomy. I was surprised. However, when I looked up nature, here's the definition of it...

http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/nature

    1. In a general sense, whatever is made or produced; a word that comprehends all the works of God; the universe. Of a phoenix we say, there is no such thing in nature.

    And look through nature up to natures God.

    2. By a metonymy of the effect for the cause, nature is used for the agent, creator, author, producer of things, or for the powers that produce them. By the expression, trees and fossils are produced by nature, we mean, they are formed or produced by certain inherent powers in matter, or we mean that they are produced by God, the Creator, the Author of whatever is made or produced. The opinion that things are produced by inherent powers of matter, independent of a supreme intelligent author, is atheism. But generally men mean by nature, thus used, the Author of created things, or the operation of his power.

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So to sum it up in a nutshell: nature is pretty much EVERYTHING that is GOD'S creation.

I will post bible verses in the next post(s) to show where this is going...
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 11:24:21 am »

OK, when we all thing about sodomy, we think largely about homosexuality(and nothing else). Yes, this is a large part of it - but nonetheless let's look at as many scriptures as we can to see if it's referring to other things too...

Romans 1:23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


Refers to unclean fornication b/w the same sexes here? Check!

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1Corinthians 11:14  Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

Now this is very interesting - NATURE teaches us that it's a shame for men to have long hair? And then you have those Jesus paintings by the Catholic Church showing a long-haired, hippie Jesus? Or how about today's society where it seems like there's long-haired men at every street corner?

Couldn't this also be classified as sodomy too?

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1Timothy 5:14  I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
1Ti 5:15  For some are already turned aside after Satan.


OK - nature isn't mentioned in this passage - but nonetheless when I read this last night, it reminded me of the modern-day feminist movement(since the 70's) where they're pushing agendas how women have rights to have careers in the workforce, and to be equal with men. So as a result their children haven't received the proper training(as they've left them all by themselves most of the time), especially in the bible. And the man's role in the house(and in businesses, institutions, churches, etc) has been diminished over the long haul.

Ephesians 5:23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.


Ultimately - doesn't the role of women you're seeing in (secular)society today go against God's nature(as he designed for the woman, that is)? And look further at the rotten fruits of feminism - they've also pushed abortion and lesbianism. IOW, look at this TROJAN HORSE they brought with this "but women need to have equal rights as men" agenda.

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1Corinthians 7:1  Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
1Co 7:2  Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.


Was listening to a guy's YT sermon(Jason Cooley from Old Paths Baptist Church in MN - which is NOT a 501c3, FYI) this week - and he gave a sermon warning about the whole dating scene(which churches have no problems with). Just to sum it up in a nutshell: look at the last half of verse 1 in this passage - "It is good for a man not to touch a woman".

Does this mean you can't hug your mother, aunt, grandmother, or cousin? No, absolutely not. Anyhow - look what they mention in the next verse - AVOID FORNICATION. It's interesting how this passage says it's not good for a man to touch a woman, right before it warns about fornication(and let every man have his own wife...).

Which brings me to point out a couple of things...

1) Is dating even biblical? Look at the dating scene in the world the last couple or so decades - look how publicly affectionate the younger couples(in particular) show. IOW, doesn't dating seem like part of the lusts of the flesh?

FYI - when I was having troubles one year at my Catholic HS in the late 80's, was sent to a "guidance counselor" - guess what, first thing she asked me was "Are you dating?". Yes, NO JOKE!

2) I'm sure most of you who live in America are familiar with Title IX - it was the feminists that pushed this in the 70's, where pretty much girls have equal rights to school athletics as boys. However, it wasn't so much that these schools had to get equal funding for girls athletic teams, but girls were able to participate on the BOYS teams(ie-wrestling).

And that's what they're doing in particular in the sport of wrestling - TOUCHING each other.

1Timothy 2:9  In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10  But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.


Ultimately - what I'm trying to pt out is that when they say something is a crime against nature(as sodomy defines), doesn't it also mean that things that do NOT comprehend the works of God?(like said in the 1st meaning of nature in the OP)
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 11:40:32 am »

OK - I'm not trying to say how homosexuality is somehow a small part of sodomy(as I stated above - it's a large part).

But just pointing out the definition of sodomy from the Webster's 1828, and showing how there's OTHER factors playing into sodomy.(some of which has lead to the whole homosexual/lesbian/pedifile, etc agendas we're seeing ripened in full force now)

For example - men with long hair(as it's all but common nowdays) - pretty much they're giving everyone the impression that it's OK to look feminine.

1Corinthians 6:9  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Or how about the Title IX agenda where it allows girls to participate on boys sports teams? Yeah, ultimately - they're giving this message to young girls how it's OK to be masculine. Coincidence that we've come to a point now where Transgenders are slowly being accepted in today's society?(something I would never have imagined in my lifetime)

And also - speaking of Title IX - for those that listened to that New Order Barbarians interview(some doctor had a closed door meeting with a Planned Parenthood director in the 60's). This was part of their agendas - to encourage young girls to participate in athletics, so they would see themselves as just that(athletes), and they would ultimately not even give 2nd thoughts to motherhood and raising children. So ultimately, this was part of the plans of the NWO depopulation agendas.

And then this whole dating stuff - we talked many times here how churches in America hindered our witness of the gospel to sodomites b/c they turned a blind eye to things like no-fault divorce, to some extent couples co-habitating with each other, etc. Yes, when we have a beam in our own eyes, we won't be able to take the speck out of our brother's eye. So when these sodomites see professing Christians in the dating scene holding hands and openly acting affectionate to each other, again, we're not acting like salt and light.

Matthew 5:13  Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 11:46:29 am »

FYI, this is what the NIV says on 1 Corinthians 7:1 - look what it LEAVES OUT!

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1st Corinthians 7:1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”

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1st Corinthians 7:1  Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2014, 05:23:25 pm »

Romans 1:20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.


A couple of things here...

1) It's not so much with this evolution heresy - but even worse it's this "gap theory" deception that ended up infiltrating churches(and churches ended up embracing it). Even Clarence Larkin ended up adding fuel to the fire by using the RSV to justify his claims - Larkin was able to get his foot in the door b/c he (correctly and properly)put out all of the different dispensations of scripture. However, he like other false prophets used his influence to push heresies like this very "gay theory". And it's sad to see some of these small KJB ministries(like those on YT that seem sound in doctrine and contending for the faith) embracing this very "gap theory".

OK - what I'm trying to say is that it's really not so much that Christians have been sending their children to these government-runned indoctrination schools to get brainwashed with evolution(yes, that's been the case too), but over a 100 years ago they bought into this "gap theory" lie to begin with, which is why they can't defend creationism to this day. Ultimately, "they are without excuse" and "became vain in their imaginations".

2) Look at all of these corrupted bible versions these "churches" use - can you say not only did they NOT glorify God, but they also changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man using these perversions? Didn't they also do the same when they gave too much attention to their Babel church buildings?


Ultimately, look no further at the main culprit in the sodomy agenda - the Apostate Church.
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