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Will Mormons Soon Embrace Gay Marriage? Church Leaders Make LDS Stance Clear

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« on: October 07, 2013, 10:07:01 am »

Will Mormons Soon Embrace Gay Marriage? Church Leaders Make LDS Stance Clear

Homosexuality was one of the many issues grappled with at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ 183rd Semiannual General Conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, over the weekend. While the nation has experienced changing tides on the gay marriage front, leaders made it clear that the LDS Church will not be jumping on board to support the issue.
During the conference, Dallin H. Oaks, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, spoke out about a plethora of issues that he believes showcase “behaviors contrary to God’s decrees about sexual morality and the eternal nature and purposes of marriage and child-bearing,” reports The Salt Lake City Tribune.

Cohabitation, later marriages and dropping birth rates were among these subjects. Gay marriage, too, was discussed, with Oaks claiming that mankind cannot ”make moral what God has declared immoral.”
Plainly stated: Just because the nation is becoming more accepting of same-sex unions and some of the other aforementioned issues does not mean that the church will follow suit, maintained the apostle.
“Unlike other organizations that can change their policies and even their doctrines, our policies are determined by the truths God has declared to be unchangeable,” he said.

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Russell M. Nelson, another apostle, agreed with Oaks’ assessment.

“Marriage between a man and a woman is fundamental to the Lord’s doctrine and crucial to God’s eternal plan,” he told the 20,000 in attendance. “Marriage between a man and a woman is God’s pattern for a fullness of life on Earth and in heaven. God’s marriage pattern cannot be abused, misunderstood or misconstrued.”
The conference also addressed the issue of women in the priesthood — a dynamic that the LDS Church is not prepared to allow.

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Eventually, they will tow the line too if they want to continue to play in the world.
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Mormon church backs Utah LGBT anti-discrimination bill

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Utah lawmakers introduced a landmark bill Wednesday that bars discrimination against gay and transgender individuals while protecting the rights of religious groups and individuals.

The measure has a rare stamp of approval from the Mormon church and stands a high chance of passing in Utah, where the church is based and many state lawmakers and the Republican governor are members of the faith.

Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints joined LGBT-rights activists, bipartisan lawmakers and Utah's Republican lieutenant governor in unveiling the bill at a news conference Wednesday.

"This is a historic day," Equality Utah executive director Troy Williams said. "People from diverse backgrounds have come together to craft what no one thought was possible."

State Sen. Stuart Adams, a Republican who led negotiations on the proposal, said at the news conference that they've found a way to respect the rights of some while not infringing on the rights of others.

"If Utah can do this, my opinion, it can be done anywhere else in the nation," Adams said.

The proposal, which will face its first legislative hurdle at a Thursday hearing, prohibits discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation when it comes to housing or employment. Religious groups and organizations would be exempt from the requirement, as would Boy Scouts of America, which has a ban on gay adult Scout leaders and has close ties to the LDS Church.

The church said Wednesday it is fully behind the legislation, which follows the principles set out in the faith's recent nationwide call for laws that balance both religious rights and LGBT protections.

"In this approach, we acknowledged that neither side or no party may get all they want," D. Todd Christofferson, a member of the church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, said. "It is better if both sides get most of what is desired than to have a winner-take-all where one side loses."

Christofferson said the plan contains strong religious protections and a fair approach to housing and employment.

LGBT activists have spent years pushing for a statewide non-discrimination law in Utah, but their efforts were fast-tracked this year after the Mormon church issued its call for this type of legislation.

Gov. Gary Herbert indicated he supports the measure as well, saying in a statement that the collaboration is a "great example of what makes Utah great."

Democratic state Sen. Jim Dabakis, who was raised Mormon and is openly gay, said local Catholic and Episcopal church officials were also consulted about the proposal but they have not officially endorsed it.

Sen. Steve Urquhart, a St. George Republican who co-sponsored the bill, said the Boy Scouts were not involved in negotiations on the Utah proposal and did not request the exemption. He said the organization was included because of a 2000 U.S. Supreme Court decision recognizing the organization's constitutional right to exclude gay members.

The Boy Scouts now allow openly gay youth.

Boy Scouts of America national spokesman Deron Smith said the organization didn't have any comment on the legislation. Utah Boy Scouts leaders deferred comment to the national organization.

Scouts for Equality, an organization critical of the Scouts' ban on gay leaders, criticized the exemption.

"The fundamental principle of non-discrimination means that there aren't special exemptions," Scouts for Equality executive director Zach Wahls said in a statement. "Non-discrimination means 'non-discrimination,' not 'non-discrimination except for the Boy Scouts.'"

The compromise also attracted criticism from some conservatives.

"It's heavy on protection for special classes of people that I don't believe should be a special class, but it's very light on religious protections," Gayle Ruzicka, president of the conservative family-values group Utah Eagle Forum.

Ruzicka said the proposal needed more protections for religious individuals to act in accordance with their beliefs.

Beyond banning discrimination based on identity and sexual orientation, the proposal says employers can adopt "reasonable dress and grooming standards" and "reasonable rules and polices" for sex-specific restrooms and other facilities, as long as those standards also include accommodations for gender identity.

It protects the right of an individual employee to express their religious or moral beliefs in "a reasonable, non-disruptive or non-harassing way," as long as it doesn't interfere with the company's business.

It also prohibits employers from firing, demoting or refusing to hire a person for expressing religious or political beliefs about marriage or sexuality unless those beliefs conflict with the company's business interest.

The Mormon campaign pushing for these types of laws is the latest example of a shift in tone by the church. While it has moved away from harsh rhetoric and is preaching compassion and acceptance, the church insists it is making no changes in doctrine and still believes that sex is against the law of God unless it's within a marriage between a man and a woman.
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Mormon church to support Boy Scouts despite gay troop leaders
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the nation’s largest sponsor of Boy Scout units, has reaffirmed its commitment to the youth organization.


The Mormon church will continue to support the Boy Scouts of America despite the group’s decision to allow gay troop leaders, say church leaders.

After a month of deliberation, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – which is the nation’s largest sponsor of Boy Scout units and continues to restrict gay and lesbian members from participating fully in church activities and leadership – said in a statement Wednesday that it would maintain its 102-year-old association with Scouting following the BSA’s controversial July decision to let gay men lead Scout units.

The announcement, which comes after the BSA assured church leaders that they would continue to have control over their own hiring, highlights both the progress and problems of attempts to strike a middle ground on gay rights issues – especially for organizations like the Boy Scouts, which has grown increasingly bound to faith-based groups, The Christian Science Monitor’s Amanda Paulson reported last month.

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“As leaders of the Church, we want the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) to succeed in its historic mission to instill leadership skills and high moral standards in youth of all faiths and circumstances,” reads the church’s statement, issued by the Council of the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will go forward as a chartering organization of BSA, and as in the past, will appoint Scout leaders and volunteers who uphold and exemplify Church doctrine, values, and standards.”

The BSA’s decision to lift the decades-old ban on gay troop leaders has faced heavy criticism from conservative and religious voices, many of whom regarded the Scouts as a “bulwark of conservatism in a time of flux,” as The Washington Post put it.

Some Christian Evangelical groups had already severed ties with the BSA following its decision to allow openly gay troops. After the announcement in July, John Stemberger, chairman of the board for Christian scouting group Trail Life USA, told The Christian Post, “It is tragic that the BSA is willing to risk the safety and security of its boys because of peer pressure from activist groups.”

Some LGBT rights advocates, meanwhile, saw the BSA’s decision as a halfhearted effort that is years behind its time. As Ms. Paulson reported:

A BSA decision to lift the ban on gay adults but still leave hiring decisions to the discretion of local religious-based organizations affiliated with troops might have seemed progressive if the Scouts had taken that stance 25 years ago, when many first urged it. But coming in 2015, it now seems to critics like too little, too late – a decision that will still allow for discrimination on religious grounds.
“You’ve got a highly divided organization,” says Richard Ellis, a political science professor at Willamette University in Salem, Ore., and the author of “Judging the Boy Scouts of America,” in an interview with the Monitor. “Now it’s not clear that even this solution, which is an attempt to get the [gay rights] issue out of the way, can do it, because nobody is happy with it.”

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When the BSA lifted the ban, the Mormon church said it was “deeply troubled” by the decision and was considering other options to the Scouts, which is its main nonreligious activity for boys, according to The New York Times.

The church's latest, less-pointed position appears to show a willingness to work with the Scouts instead of replacing them, a stance that has since been welcomed by the BSA.

“The BSA affirms, and will defend, the right of all religious chartered organizations to select their Scout leaders in accordance with their religious beliefs,” the Boy Scouts said in a statement, reported The Associated Press.

Still, some remain skeptical, as the church’s renewed commitment came with a statement that it would keep looking to evaluate and refine alternatives to Boy Scouts “that would better suit the increasingly global membership of the religion,” the AP reported.

“It’s a holding pattern,” said Matthew Bowman, a historian at Henderson State University who follows the Mormon church closely. “I still think the church is likely to either alter or abandon the Boy Scouts at some point in the future.”
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