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December 31, 2019, 11:13:54 am ciwarrior1 says: The King James bible is NOT the pure word of God. In fact there are many errors in it. That is why the Pilgrims rejected the King James bible and relied on the Geneva Bible. In fact, the King James Bible is a paraphrase. The Bishops Bible, the Great Bible, and the Geneva Bible were used to produce the King James. Also, King James used the Massoretic text for the Greek and this text has proved to be faulty. The oldest Massoretic text dates back to about 950 AD with it coming out in book form in about 1000 AD. However, the dead sea scrolls proved that the Massoretic text wasn't even a viable text when you consider that the dead sea scrolls supported the Greek Septuagint over 90% of the time over the Massoretic text. The Massoretic text comes from the Jews who are the Synagogue of Satan. They are corrupt and vile, and they are not God Yahweh's chosen people Israel. True Israel are the white Caucasian, Celtic, Anglo Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred people in the world today. You would be better off getting the Ferrar-Fenton bible, the Rotherham Bible, and so forth. These bibles are more accurate than the King James Bible. However, there is an agenda to misinterpret the bible. For example, according to the bible race mixing is a sin. However, how many church's promote race mixing because they think that the King James bible says so. It doesn't, but since the read it and don't do any investigation, they just believe it. Also, many Christian pastors are crypto Jews just like Pastor David Jeremiah, Benny Hinn, and so forth.
December 31, 2019, 11:10:09 am ciwarrior1 says: The King James bible is NOT the pure word of God. In fact there are many errors in it. That is why the Pilgrims rejected the King James bible and relied on the Geneva Bible. In fact, the King James Bible is a paraphrase. The Bishops Bible, the Great Bible, and the Geneva Bible were used to produce the King James. Also, King James used the Massoretic text for the Greek and this text has proved to be faulty. The oldest Massoretic text dates back to about 950 AD with it coming out in book form in about 1000 AD. However, the dead sea scrolls proved that the Massoretic text wasn't even a viable text when you consider that the dead sea scrolls supported the Greek Septuagint over 90% of the time over the Massoretic text. The Massoretic text comes from the Jews who are the Synagogue of Satan. They are corrupt and vile, and they are not God Yahweh's chosen people Israel. True Israel are the white Caucasian, Celtic, Anglo Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred people in the world today. You would be better off getting the Ferrar-Fenton bible, the Rotherham Bible, and so forth. These bibles are a not more accurate than the King James Bible. However, there is an agenda to misinterpret the bible. For example, according to the bible race mixing is a sin. However, how many church's promote race mixing because they think that the King James bible says so. It doesn't, but since the read it and don't do any investigation, they just believe it. Also, many Christian pastors are crypto Jews just like Pastor David Jeremiah, Benny Hinn, and so forth.
August 08, 2018, 02:38:10 am suzytr says: Hello, any good churches in the Sacto, CA area, also looking in Reno NV, thanks in advance and God Bless you Smiley
January 29, 2018, 01:21:57 am Christian40 says: It will be interesting to see what happens this year Israel being 70 years as a modern nation may 14 2018
October 17, 2017, 01:25:20 am Christian40 says: It is good to type Mark is here again!  Smiley
October 16, 2017, 03:28:18 am Christian40 says: anyone else thinking that time is accelerating now? it seems im doing days in shorter time now is time being affected in some way?
September 24, 2017, 10:45:16 pm Psalm 51:17 says: The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the league rulebook. It states: “The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. “During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”
September 20, 2017, 04:32:32 am Christian40 says: "The most popular Hepatitis B vaccine is nothing short of a witch’s brew including aluminum, formaldehyde, yeast, amino acids, and soy. Aluminum is a known neurotoxin that destroys cellular metabolism and function. Hundreds of studies link to the ravaging effects of aluminum. The other proteins and formaldehyde serve to activate the immune system and open up the blood-brain barrier. This is NOT a good thing."
http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-11-new-fda-approved-hepatitis-b-vaccine-found-to-increase-heart-attack-risk-by-700.html
September 19, 2017, 03:59:21 am Christian40 says: bbc international did a video about there street preaching they are good witnesses
September 14, 2017, 08:06:04 am Psalm 51:17 says: bro Mark Hunter on YT has some good, edifying stuff too.
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« on: September 17, 2015, 12:31:24 pm »

Been studying about this "lordship salvation" strawman argument recently - apparently, it's been used for over 100 years to tear down the foundations of Christianity.

https://electexiles.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/history-of-the-lordship-salvation-controversy/

History of the Lordship Salvation Controversy

May 6, 2008 by Drew

It could be argued that the Lordship Salvation Controversy has been around for ages–ever since repentance lost its rightful place in the church’s gospel preaching. In this post, however, I will briefly trace the clear development of non-lordship theology from its early 20th century beginnings to its present form.

The Lordship Salvation Controversy can be traced back to the interaction of two early 20th century theologians, Lewis Sperry Chafer and Benjamin B. Warfield. Warfield was concerned about Chafer’s soteriology, claiming, “in [Chafer] we hear of two kinds of Christians whom he designates respectively ‘carnal men’ and ‘spiritual men'” (B.B. Warfield, “A Review of Lewis Sperry Chafer’s He That is Spiritual,” 324). Chafer grounded his belief in two types of Christians on his commitment to Sola Fide, claiming that, “the eternal glories which are wrought in sovereign grace are conditioned, on the human side, by faith alone”  (Systematic Theology, Vol. 3, 371). Chafer claimed that repentance and faith are essentially the same thing, thus Chafer could affirm both that “repentance is essential to salvation and that none could be saved apart from repentance,” and that “it is clear that the New Testament does not impose repentance upon the unsaved as a condition of salvation” (373, 76). Chafer directly addresses how his theology should influence preaching of the gospel, claiming that, “in all gospel preaching every reference to the life lived beyond regeneration should be avoided as far as possible.”

Thus, according to Chafer, the gospel preacher is to call sinners to believe but not explicitly to repent and believe. Hence, Chafer saw two great spiritual changes taking place in Christian’s lives: “the change from the ‘natural man’ to the saved man, and the change from the ‘carnal’ man to the spiritual man” (He that is Spiritual, Cool. Chafer claimed that what many evangelicals termed “repentance” and placed alongside faith should actually be placed after conversion in an act of adjustment toward the Holy Spirit. Chafer’s theology reflects the movement of removing repentance from the gospel call and placing it in the arena of sanctification. (Randall Gleason, “B. B. Warfield and Lewis S. Chafer on Sanctification,” Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society 40.2, 250). Warfield, seeing “repent and believe” (Mark 1:15) as unitary call unto salvation, claimed that “these things [repentance and faith], cannot be separated, and it is a grievous error to teach that a true believer in Christ can stop short in ‘carnality,’ though having the Spirit with him and in him” (Warfield, “A Review of Lewis Sperry Chafer’s He that is Spiritual,” 326). Warfield thus saw Chafer as teaching that Christians could be justified without experiencing the Spirit’s progressive work of regeneration.

The Lordship Salvation Controversy was later taken up in Eternity Magazine through a brief exchange between Everett F. Harrison and John R. W. Stott. Harrison, effectively workng out Chafer’s theology, placed repentance in the realm of discipleship (Everett F. Harrison, “Must Christ be Lord to be Savior? NO!” Eternity, 14). Stott, arguing that Jesus Christ must be accepted as Lord and savior, emphasized the inseparable connection between saving faith and repentance (Stott, “Must Christ be Lord to be Savior? YES!” Eternity, 17-18). In recent years, Charles C. Ryrie and Zane C. Hodges, both opponents of the lordship position, wrote books in response to John MacArthur’s The Gospel According to Jesus, a major work representing the lordship position. Ryrie, much like Chafer, argues that repentance should be understood simply to mean “changing one’s mind about Jesus,” whereas repentance that denotes a conscious turning from sin should be practiced by believers for the purpose of restoring “fellowship with our Father and His family” (Ryrie, So Great Salvation, 100). Hodges takes Chaferian theology to its logical conclusion claiming that “faith represents the call to salvation” while “the call to repentance is the call to enter into harmonious relations with God” (Hodges, Absolutely Free! A Biblical Reply to Lordship Salvation, 146). Hodges represents bold and significant departure from the traditional reformed position on the doctrine of repentance by clearly placing repentance in the realm of sanctification. In so doing, Hodges establishes his belief in two kinds of Christians.

MacArthur, however, claims that “repentance is a critical element of conversion” and “not simply another word for believing” (MacArthur, The Gospel According to Jesus, 178). Therefore, while Lordship and non-lordship proponents have debated over regeneration, justification, and sanctification, it has been shown that at the heart of the lordship salvation controversy is a fundamental disagreement on the biblical doctrine of repentance. In posts to follow I will set forth a brief biblical theology of repentance and answer a number of non-lordship objections.
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