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« on: December 04, 2013, 01:50:06 pm »

Yeshua Campaign Causes Buzz in Southern Israel

When an Israeli army general noticed the Yeshua placards along the highway on his way to base in Beersheva, he called his battalion to a special meeting and explained to his soldiers who these “Messianic Jews are and what they believe about Yeshua.”
 
While the gospel campaign by Jews for Jesus created a lot of buzz among local residents, not everyone was as sympathetic toward the Messianics as the general.
 
“May his name be cut off forever,” screamed Ofer Karadi, a member of the ultra-orthodox Shas party, when a Messianic Jew dared to mention the name of Yeshua (Jesus) on the Radio Darom morning program.

With all the commotion stirred up in the Negev by the campaign, the popular radio station was interviewing the local Shas representative together with the deputy mayor of Beersheva and a local Messianic Jew.
 
“Are you so degenerate as to allow this impious infidel to even speak on the radio,” shouted Karadi in reference to his Messianic co-guest. “It is unacceptable to allow these degenerates to speak about these things in our city.”
 
“These are all lies. Let them (Messianics) go to the Bedouins and tell them about Yesu. You should never give these infidels a microphone. You should hit him over the head with the microphone!” shouted the orthodox Shas representative.
 
Pleading to give others an opportunity to respond, the host asked Karadi to “please show some respect to others.”
 
“I respect everyone,” responded Karadi. “How degenerate can you people get. These people are criminals of humanity. They have nothing. No intelligence. Where do they get this stupidity. They should be sent out of the country.”
 
“What do you say about this campaign to tell people about Yeshua?” the host was finally able to ask his Messianic guest.
 
“Some within the Messianic community are opposed to this kind of public campaign. Although every believer is commanded to tell others about our faith. Everyone should at least have the opportunity to check for himself what the Hebrew Bible teaches about the Messiah,” said the local Jewish believer.
 
“How can you give a platform for these empty-headed people,” cut in Karadi. “They are extremists. They are causing a civil war here in Israel!” (what this really means is that if Messianic Jews keep preaching the gospel in Israel, the orthodox will rise up with violent resistance).
 
“Is Judaism so weak that you need to make these kind of threats to Jews who believe in Yeshua?” retored the host.
 
When Karadi continued shouting his anti- Messianic slogans, the announcer finally had enough and said “good-by” before turning off his microphone.

“What do you say to all this?” he asked the Messianic Jew, who responded:
 
“Yeshua is like Joseph in the Torah portion we read this week. He is still hidden to his own people. But the day is coming when he will be revealed. Everyone should be allowed to read for himself what the Scriptures teach about the Messiah and come to his or her own conclusion. We are Jews who believe that Yeshua is the promised Messiah for Israel. We are here to give everyone at least an opportunity to decide for themselves if Yeshua is our Messiah.”
 
“What do you say about all this, Mr. Deputy Mayor?” asked the host.
 
“I represent all of the citizens of Beersheva,” he said with some trepidation. “I want to be friends with everyone on all sides.” Not an easy task given the religious fervor stirred up when Jews believe in Jesus.

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 02:05:50 pm »

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“These are all lies. Let them (Messianics) go to the Bedouins and tell them about Yesu.

Sorry Karadi, but seeing your secular Israeli government wants to heard up the Bedouin into towns, they aren't exactly open to chit chat lately! Roll Eyes

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 02:19:06 pm »

he looks a little devils possessed there...
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 03:44:43 pm »

IDF Soldiers Warned Against Contact with Messianic Jews

The citizens of Israel woke up this week to a special early morning announcement by the Israeli Army on news broadcasts all across the country: The Ministry of Defense has ordered that all soldiers staying in Jerusalem over the Sabbath are not allowed to have any contact with members of the sect of Jews who preach faith in Yeshua (Jesus).

Is faith in Yeshua such a threat to our national security that one of the most effective military organizations in the world feels the need to “protect” its soldiers from this “sect of Jews”?

It all started when a small group of Messianic Jews visited a hostel for lone soldiers in Jerusalem over the Sabbath. The army provides the hostel for soldiers who have no family in Israel. On the weekends, when they are off base, they can stay at “Beit Hachayal,” or Soldiers’ House. A group of Messianic Israelis were visiting soldiers at this particular Beit Hachayal on the Sabbath and talking about their New Testament faith.

Many soldiers enjoyed these visits, and some began reading the New Testament and other Messianic literature regularly. Soldiers were invited to visit with Messianics in their homes, where they were introduced to Messianic faith during Sabbath meals and Bible teachings.

The Jewish believers had built up many friendships with management and staff of the hostel, who appreciated the positive impact the visits had on the lone soldiers. One of the soldiers even came to faith in the Yeshua. No one at the hostel, or in the IDF, were bothered one bit by this, not until an “anti-missionary” organization stirred up trouble.

The so-called “anti-missionaries” became aware that a soldier had come to faith in Yeshua most likely from reading one of the many Messianic or Christian newsletters and websites they follow. So they reported to the Ministry of Defense and IDF authorities that “the cult of Jews who preach Christianity are running missionary activities at Beit Hachayal.”

The ultra-Orthodox authorities to which the anti-missionaries are attached carry a lot of political weight and can cause a lot of problems. So, without investigating the facts on the ground, the Ministry of Defense and IDF immediately put out the public warning against association with Messianic.

Messianic Jews also received a letter from the Ministry of Defense forbidding them from entering “Beit Hachayal without explicit permission including a description of intended activities.”

Years ago, Messianic Jews were considered something of a security risk by the IDF. Many were not allowed to serve in elite or sensitive units. Today, however, Messianics are highly regarded by military authorities, and are even sought out to serve as commanders and officers in every branch of the Israeli military, including Military Intelligence, which requires the highest security clearance.

One Messianic Jewish Sabra (native-Israeli born), a sergeant in the Israel Air Force, recently asked his commander if he could include the New Testament together with the Hebrew Bible in his pledge of allegiance to the State of Israel. “Yes you may,” returned the officer without blinking an eye. And so this young man joined the growing numbers of hundreds of openly Messianic Jewish soldiers proudly serving in the IDF.

So why is the Ministry of Defense now publicly opposing Messianic activity in Jerusalem? According to one combat soldier, who is not Messianic, it all has to do with politics. “The government passed a law recently to recruit religious (ultra-Orthodox) Jews, but most refuse to serve,” he explained. “The army is trying to appease the Orthodox community in Jerusalem by making this absurd announcement against Messianic faith. We are all here to serve our country and the army should not be involved in telling people which path of faith to follow.”

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http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Donetsks-11000-Jews-live-in-fear-of-rising-violence-354862
Donetsk’s 11,000 Jews live in fear of rising violence
5/30/14

The Jewish community, leaders stressed, is completely non-political and only seeks to maintain its members’ safety and security and to provide necessary services.

DONETSK – Driving through the streets of separatist-controlled Donetsk, my guide points out numerous barricades, manned by rebels armed with everything from modern Kalashnikovs to old shotguns. As I snap pictures at one checkpoint, a young separatist yells at me but our car quickly speeds by and we avoid a confrontation.

I am in the heart of the so-called People’s Republic of Donetsk, encompassing a large swath of Ukraine’s industrial east, to report on the condition of the city’s roughly 11,000 Jews.

The Jewish community of Ukraine is understandably nervous. Since the deposition of pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovich earlier this year, Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly asserted his right to intervene in his western neighbor’s affairs in order to protect Russian- speakers, as well as Jews and other ethnic minorities.

Many Jews are afraid of being placed into the middle of a conflict in which both sides have used accusations of anti-Semitism to discredit the other.

While Jewish leaders in Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa and Donetsk have all said the conflict on the ground is completely unconnected to the Jews, and that there has been, for the most part, no concomitant rise in anti-Semitism to match the current national divide, they said their communities are still subject to the same dangers as other Ukrainian citizens.

Some, like Yaakov Virin, a bearded hassidic man and the editor of Donetsk’s Jewish newspaper, are wary due to the fear that eventually patriotism and nationalism may turn into anti-Jewish incitement.

“It’s a tradition that the Jews are always guilty for all of our problems,” he said.

Many of Donetsk’s malls and shopping centers are closed, and despite seeing businesses open and people walking in the streets, the city is certainly nowhere near as vibrant as one would expect from such a large population center.

Speaking with The Jerusalem Post at his office in the city’s synagogue, only 25 km. from the airport, where running gun battles left dozens dead on Wednesday, Israeli-born Rabbi Pinchas Vishedski said the Jewish community is still functioning, although it is facing economic hardships due to the instability.

Some 60 men come to three different prayer services every morning despite the violence, and Torah classes are still being held in the evenings.

The synagogue and the nearby Jewish community center have been getting smaller crowds at night due to issues with public transportation during those hours, but Jewish life has not stopped.

At the community center, the director of cultural programs, Olga Pypenko said hundreds of people are still coming to take part in classes and activities, and between 25 and 30 families with small children are expected to take part in a communal Shabbat this week.

“No fewer people are coming since the violence started,” she said.

The local school has been closed for the past several days but it reopened on Thursday, although only 30 out of a total of 150 pupils attended, Vishedski said.

He sent his own daughter to class but may have kept her at home if he did not want to set an example to his congregants, he added.

All of the communal institutions here are protected by guards wearing camouflage fatigues and bulletproof vests. They are not armed.

Jews here, like all Ukrainians, are divided in their political leanings, but so far none have joined the separatists, locals said.

The Jewish community, leaders stressed, is completely non-political and only seeks to maintain its members’ safety and security and to provide necessary services.

“There is fear among those in the city, and the Jews are part of the [broader] community,” Vishedski said. “The Jewish community isn’t the story.”

Pypenko agreed, telling the Post she doesn’t “feel any anti-Semitism or danger to my life as a member of the [Jewish] community.”

According to the rabbi, life in Donetsk has always been idyllic and the shock of the budding civil war has turned a city that was an Eden for Jews into an anarchic nightmare.

Many in the community are in despair, he said, adding that he is praying for a miracle.

Like many other Ukrainian communal leaders, Vishedski feels like the broader Jewish community has not stepped up to the challenge of helping to maintain the young post-communist Jewish communities of his country through this dangerous time.

Citing organizations like the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews as exceptions to this complaint, he said he has not been contacted by Jewish groups looking to help, or even inquiring as to his congregants’ well-being.

There are 500 Jewish families here who receive food aid, and it is likely this number will rise as the city continues to suffer from armed conflict.

While there is no mass exodus, locals are worried about the closing of the airport and are unsure of what the future holds. Vishedski said a leaked plan for the evacuation of Ukraine Jewry to Israel, as reported in the Ukrainian and Israeli press, was harmful and caused damage to the community.

“We have to hope for all sides to show common sense,” one community member said.
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