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« on: October 30, 2016, 04:30:41 am »

4 Pak Posts Destroyed, Heavy Casualties Inflicted In Keran Along Line of Control (LoC), Says Army

Indian forces have destroyed at least four Pakistani posts and inflicted heavy casualties on Pakistani troops in the Keran sector along the Line of Control, the army said on Saturday, shortly after another ceasefire violation by Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir's RS Pura sector.

The Indian Army described the assault as "massive". Top sources told NDTV that the casualties on Pakistani side could be up to 20.

The strikes came after Pakistani troops engaged in repeated ceasefire violations in Kathua and RS Pura sector along the International Border on Saturday. On Saturday night, after the Indian assault, Pakistan fired at the RS Pura, Keran and Hiranagar sectors.

Pakistan forces have been targeting Indian posts in more than 45 ceasefire violations since India carried out surgical strikes and destroyed seven staging areas for terrorists in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir last month.

Four army and three BSF personnel have died in strikes by strikes by the Pakistani and terrorists. At least four civilians in border villages have also been killed and several others have been injured. Areas near the border have been put on high alert and several areas have been evacuated.

An Indian soldier was also killed on Friday and his body mutilated by terrorists in an attack near the Line of Control.

The army had said "the incident will be responded to appropriately", adding the attackers had fled into Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir "under the cover of heavy firing by Pakistan army".

Home Minister Rajnath Singh has said that security forces were responding to the firing from Pakistan appropriately. On Friday, 15 Pakistani soldiers were killed in Indian strikes.

Sources said Shahbaz Sharif, brother of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, on Friday, had visited villages along the International Border that have been targeted by Indian forces, to take stock of the damage.

Amid the escalation in hostilities, the BSF has said that it will neither send nor receive sweets from Pakistani Rangers at Wagah Border today on Diwali.

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‘Official’ war: India, Pakistan indulge in the game of diplomatic expulsions

In retaliation to India's move, Pakistan declared one of the Indian High Commissioner's staffers as persona non grata.

In a tit-for-tat action, Pakistan on Thursday expelled Surjeet Singh, an official of the Indian High Commission in Islamabad, apparently in retaliation against the Indian action of declaring Pakistani High Commission staffer in New Delhi, Mehmood Akhtar, persona non grata. Hours after Indian Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar summoned Pakistan High Commissioner Abdul Basit at South Block to protest against the espionage activities of Akhtar, late in the evening in Islamabad, Pakistan’s Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry rang up Indian High Commissioner Gautam Bambawale and summoned him to the Pakistan Foreign Office. As expected, the Indian High Commissioner was told that one of his staffers Surjeet Singh was declared persona non grata.

“The Foreign Secretary expressed deep concern over the activities of the Indian official that were in violation of the Vienna Convention and the established diplomatic norms,” said a statement issued by Pakistan Foreign Office.

Unlike India, which put out a detailed charge list against Akhtar, who was working as an undercover assistant to the Councillor (Trade), Pakistan’s statement did not mention any charges against Singh.

In a typical Cold War style, India and Pakistan have been indulging in the game of diplomatic expulsions to score points. In the past, there had been several acts of intimidation, beating, and even abduction of Indian diplomatic staff in Islamabad. In 1992, New Delhi and Islamabad signed a Code of Conduct for treatment of their diplomats in order to mitigate the allegations from both the sides.

This agreement, however, has often been violated, leading to diplomatic expulsions from time to time by the two countries. In the past, the biggest incident of diplomatic action has been the expulsion of Pakistan’s acting High Commissioner Jalil Abbas Jilani in January 2003 in New Delhi for helping Kashmiri separatists. Pakistan retaliated by “boxing in” the flag car of the acting Indian High Commissioner Sudhir Vyas in Islamabad. Later Vyas, along with four other staffers, was expelled.

The earliest high-profile expulsion from Indian side was that of Brig Zaheer Abbasi, defence advisor at the Pakistan High Commission, just a few days ahead of then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi’s famous trip to Islamabad to attend the SAARC summit in 1988 and revive dialogue with then counterpart Benazir Bhutto. Delhi Police had caught him at Green Park hotel handing over Rs 25,000 for secret documents.

In 1997, Pakistan expelled SK Chaudhury from the Indian High Commission in Islamabad and India retaliated by calling for the withdrawal of Murad Baloch from the Pakistani mission in New Delhi. Again in 2000, India expelled three Pakistani diplomats because of “activities incompatible with their official status”. Months after the Agra summit in December 2001, India recalled its ambassador to Pakistan in response to an attack on its Parliament and reduced the size of the staff at its diplomatic mission.

In May 2002, India asked Pakistan to follow suit, by reducing the size of its diplomatic staff. It also asked Pakistan’s then envoy Ashraf Jehangir Qazi to leave the country. In January 2003, came the high-profile expulsion of Acting High Commissioner Jalil Abbas Jilani, along with four other members of the mission, on charges of helping Kashmiri separatists.

According to diplomatic norms, once a diplomat is declared persona non-grata, he is not allowed to go to that country. Ironically, in 2012, India had to receive Jilani to take forward the peace process — after being stalled by the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks — as he had become foreign secretary.

In 2006, Pakistan expelled Deepak Kaul, a Counsellor at the Indian High Commission in Islamabad, after accusing him of possessing “sensitive documents”. He was detained and interrogated while driving from Islamabad to Lahore. India retaliated by expelling Syed Muhammad Rafique Ahmed, a Counsellor in the Pakistan mission in New Delhi.

But the most curious case has been that of Indian diplomat Madhuri Gupta. Delhi police’s Special Cell arrested Madhuri Gupta on April 22, 2010. She was posted as Second Secretary in the Indian High Commission in Islamabad. According to the chargesheet filed by the police in 2010, she was involved in a relationship with Jamshed, an ISI official, whom she planned to marry. She was accused of passing on sensitive information to the ISI agent.

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2016, 04:40:31 am »

Russia Joins India vs. Pakistan War - Chooses Pakistan As Ally

India keeps blaming Pakistan for killing Indian soldiers last month, but its false claims have been repeatedly refuted by the Pakistani military forces. An India vs. Pakistan armed conflict is not so unrealistic now, as the two historical rivals boldly claim that they cannot seemingly wait to rip each other’s throats out.

Tensions between the two nuclear-powered countries have been plummetting since July 8, however, India seems to be preparing for an all-out war again. Indian weapons are now pointed toward Pakistan and two of its biggest, most brutal, and intimidating allies – China and Russia.

Moscow and New Delhi have been friends (with benefits) for almost 70 years but their relationship came crashing down in 2016, comparable to abruptly changing their Facebook status from romantic to no strings attached. Similar to any other breakups, the question is: Why?

Well, a third party might have caused Russia’s infidelity. The Soviets were desperately looking for a powerful ally and it found one in China. Consequently, Pakistan belongs to the Mongol squad and China will never let anyone hurt its allies. Russia knows it.

As of now, Russia has been staging mutual military and financial drills and deals to Pakistan earlier this month.

It’s not you, it’s me: India blames itself

With all these threats looming over India today, unfortunately, it was the one who pushed Russia away.

In a survey conducted by Pew Research Center in 2015, 70 percent of Indians said they favor the United States, rather than the Soviet Union. The same survey showed that only 8 percent of Indians look at the Americans negatively, while twice as many, 16 percent, said they hate Russia.

Because of this, President Vladimir Putin lost his love for India, although Russia continues to be the country’s key supplier of weapons.

Now, military experts predict that Putin might be pouring more fuel in the India vs. Pakistan fire, that could blaze into a huge explosion one day. Alarmingly, that would most likely result in a global confrontation, with China, Russia, and Pakistan on one side, and India, the U.S., and its Western allies on the other.

http://www.morningledger.com/russia-india-vs-pakistan-war-ally/13116473/
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2019, 07:16:38 am »

India Absorbs Kashmir; WAR with Pakistan now foregone conclusion

India has taken steps to officially end the special status of Kashmir, and to ABSORB the contested region into India proper.  The India Parliament will revoke Article 35A of their Constitution and Repeal section 370 which gave autonomy and special status to Kashmir.

Put simply, India is exerting is sovereignty over Kashmir and Jammu in whole. India will most likely move to consolidate its claim and move troops in to take possession. No word yet  concerning the Aksai Chin, the area seized by Pakistan but then ceded to China, so it remains unknown.

Pakistan's reaction to this is expected to be outright, full scale war.

Further developments will be posted below as updates.  Check back.

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Pakistan Prime Minister: Is the world prepared for a NUCLEAR WAR?

Imram Khan, the Prime Minister of Pakistan, spoke to his country's parliament this morning about India taking over Kashmir.  He stated "We do not fear death.  But is the world ready for a nuclear war?  A war which no one will win?"

The fact that the head of state of a nuclear armed nation has made such a statement in public, makes clear the thinking inside his government: Nuclear War is now possible between Pakistan and India!  Here is the actual video of his remarks:

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2019, 07:21:08 am »

Pakistan vows to fight India's 'illegal' Kashmir move

Pakistani PM Imran Khan has vowed to fight India's decision to revoke Indian-administered Kashmir's autonomy, including at the UN Security Council.

Mr Khan said the move was in breach of international law, adding that he feared ethnic cleansing by India.

The region remains locked down, a day after India announced the move.

The Himalayan region of Kashmir is claimed in its entirety by both India and Pakistan, but each country controls only part of it.

There is a long-running separatist insurgency on the Indian side, which has led to thousands of deaths over three decades. India accuses Pakistan of supporting insurgents - an accusation Pakistan denies, saying it gives only moral and diplomatic support to Kashmiris who want self-determination.
What did Mr Khan say?

The Pakistani prime minister said he wanted to "tell the world" about the decision announced by the Indian government on Monday.

"Through the United Nations Security Council, we are studying it now, we will raise it in General Assembly, we will talk to heads of States at every forum... we will raise it in the media and tell the world," he told parliament on Tuesday.

Mr Khan said he thought the removal of special status would allow India to change the demographic make-up of the Muslim-majority state.

"I am afraid that [India] will now carry out ethnic cleansing in Kashmir," he said.

"They will try to remove the local people and bring in others and make them a majority, so that the locals become nothing but slaves."

Earlier, Pakistan's powerful army chief said his troops stood by Kashmiris in their "just struggle".

Neighbouring China has also voiced opposition to the Indian move, describing it as "unacceptable".
What's happening on the ground?

A telecoms and media blackout in Indian-administered Kashmir, combined with a curfew, is being enforced amid concern that the government's decision to revoke autonomy could trigger large-scale protests by people already unhappy with Indian rule.

The BBC's Aamir Peerzada in Srinagar, who managed to access one of the few working landlines in the state, said there was a palpable sense of anger and betrayal among people he had spoken to.

Instances of protest and stone-throwing were reported and local leaders have been detained. Kashmiris in other parts of the country said that they were unable to get through to their families.

Tens of thousands of additional troops were deployed ahead of the government's announcement on Monday, in what was already one of the world's most militarised zones, and more troops have been sent since.
How has Kashmir's status changed?

For many people in Indian-administered Kashmir, Article 370 - as the law guaranteeing special status was known - was the main justification for being a part of India. By revoking it, the Bharatiya Janata Party-led government has irrevocably changed Delhi's relationship with the region.

The article allowed the the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir a certain amount of autonomy - its own constitution, a separate flag and the freedom to make laws, though foreign affairs, defence and communications remained the preserve of the central government.
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Image caption Kashmir is one of the world's most militarised zones

It could make its own rules relating to permanent residency, ownership of property and fundamental rights. It could also bar Indians from outside the state from purchasing property or settling there.

The government said Article 370 needed to be scrapped to put the state on the same footing as the rest of India.

But many Kashmiris believe that the BJP ultimately wants to change the demographic character of the Muslim-majority region by allowing non-Kashmiris to buy land there.
What's happening in India's parliament?

The revocation of special status was debated in parliament during the introduction of a bill relating to the division of Jammu and Kashmir into two distinct regions.

The bill - which seeks to split the state into two union territories, Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh - was passed by both houses of parliament.

Union territories have less autonomy from the federal government than states do.

Before it was passed, the bill drew sharp criticism from opposition MPs. Lawmakers from the south, such as those from the DMK party, expressed concern about what they saw as weakening of India's federalism.

They accused the government of "denying the will of the people" of Kashmir since the decision to revoke Article 370 was taken without consulting the state's lawmakers.

But the opposition is also divided. Several parties, including Delhi's AAP, have backed the decision to revoke Article 370 and bifurcate the state.

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2019, 07:33:10 am »

Pakistan Should Cut off Diplomatic Ties with India, Says Minister Fawad Chaudhry

Earlier, while talking to a private news channel, Chaudhry said Islamabad can approach the International Court of Justice (ICJ) against India for its decision to scrap the special status for Jammu and Kashmir.
Pakistan Should Cut off Diplomatic Ties with India, Says Minister Fawad Chaudhry
Pakistan's Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry. (Image: Twitter)

Islamabad: Pakistan should cut off its diplomatic ties with India, its Science and Technology Minister Fawad Chaudhry said on Wednesday after the Indian government revoked Article 370 giving special status to Jammu and Kashmir.

Addressing a joint session of Parliament called to discuss the situation in Kashmir, Chaudhry asked, "Why is the Indian ambassador here? Why are we are not cutting off diplomatic relations? When there is no diplomacy between the two countries, then what is our ambassador doing there (in India)?"

Chaudhry said although Indian High Commissioner Ajay Bisaria is a good person, he represents a "fascist regime".

Pakistan is also likely to downgrade its diplomatic relations with India in the aftermath of the bifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir and the scrapping of Article 370 that guaranteed the state special status, top sources in the Pakistani government told CNN-News18.

According to the sources, Islamabad would also increase troop deployment after India announcement that Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (POK) is an integral part of India.

Shireen Mazari, Pakistan’s Minister for Human Rights, said the government will use all international forums to highlight the gravity of the situation and will also make efforts to call a special meeting of the United Nations Security Council.

Chaudhry said that "Pakistan should not let Kashmir become another Palestine."

"Pakistan should not be afraid of war because honour is important than anything," he said. We have to choose between dishonour and war. Wars are fought for honour, and not to win or lose. So we should not be afraid of wars."

Earlier, while talking to a private news channel, Chaudhry said Islamabad can approach the International Court of Justice (ICJ) against India for its decision to scrap the special status for Jammu and Kashmir.

Separately, the leaders in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir also demanded that the diplomatic ties with India should be cut off.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2019, 07:36:43 am »

Pakistan will 'go to any extent' to fight India's plan for Kashmir

Pakistan's military has condemned India's move to strip Indian-controlled Kashmir of its special status, and will "go to any extent" to fight the change, the country's chief of army staff said Tuesday.

The Indian territory remains in lockdown amid a communications blackout, with landline connections, internet and mobile coverage all suspended. Tens of thousands of additional Indian troops have also been deployed into the already heavily militarized region to head off unrest, following Tuesday's parliamentary vote in Delhi to change the status of Jammu and Kashmir from a state to a union territory, thereby removing its autonomy and placing it under the direct control of Delhi.

The controversial vote was met with outcry from Pakistan, which also claims Kashmir and described the move as illegal.

"Pakistan never recognized the sham Indian efforts to legalize its occupation of Jammu and Kashmir through Article 370 or 35-A decades ago, efforts which have now been revoked by India itself," said Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff Qamar Javed Bajwa on Tuesday, referring to the Indian constitutional provision that granted special status to Jammu and Kashmir.

The scrapping of Article 370 will also allow non-residents to purchase property in the valley, and apply for jobs or scholarships that had previously been reserved for the state's residents -- a move experts fear could lead to a demographic change in Hindu-dominated India's only Muslim-majority state.
The remote mountainous region of Ladakh, currently part of Jammu and Kashmir, will also be separated and turned into a standalone union territory, the government said.

"Pakistan Army firmly stands by the Kashmiris in their just struggle to the very end. We are prepared and shall go to any extent to fulfill our obligations in this regard," Bajwa said.

Relations between the nuclear powers of India and Pakistan have been strained since February, when Pakistan reportedly shot down two Indian fighter jets over Kashmir and captured one of the pilots. India said it had retaliated by shooting down a Pakistani jet, which fell on the Pakistan side of the border.
Pakistan released the captive pilot in March and the situation calmed -- but India's Kashmir vote has inflamed tensions again.

On Tuesday Pakistan's Prime Minister Imran Khan also condemned India's decision, accusing Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's ruling party of believing "that Muslims should be ethnically cleansed in India."

"If the world does not act now, if the so-called developed world does not uphold its own laws, then things will go to a place that will damage the whole world," said Khan, who added he would lobby the United Nations Security Council about the issue.

Earlier on Monday, Pakistan's Foreign Secretary had summoned India's High Commissioner to convey "a strong demarche" on the Kashmir vote, it said in a statement.

Pakistan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs "strongly" condemned India revoking Article 370 and would "exercise all possible options to counter the illegal steps," a ministry statement said.

China, which controls about 20% of the Kashmir region, has also protested India's decision, with the Chinese Foreign Ministry accusing India of encroaching on Chinese territorial sovereignty.

Spokeswoman Hua Chunying said on Tuesday that scrapping Article 370 "is unacceptable and will have no effect," and urged India to "strictly abide by the relevant agreements reached by both sides."

China has close economic, diplomatic and military ties with Pakistan, making it one of the nation's closest allies in region.

India's foreign ministry responded that the bill was "an internal matter concerning the territory of India. India does not comment on the internal affairs of other countries and similarly expects other countries to do likewise."

Kashmir on lockdown

Kashmir is one of the world's most dangerous flashpoints, and has been the epicenter for more than 70 years of an often violent territorial conflict between the Pakistan and India.

The mountainous Kashmir region was free to accede to either India or Pakistan after the two countries separated in 1947. When the Hindu king of Jammu and Kashmir chose to join India in exchange for military protection, it became the country's only Muslim-majority state.

The India-controlled Jammu and Kashmir state covers around 45% of Kashmir, in the south and east of the region, while Pakistan controls Azad Kashmir, Gilgit and Baltistan, which cover around 35% of the total territory in the north and west.

Skirmishes along the de-facto border between Indian-controlled Kashmir and Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, known as the Line of Control, continue to break out periodically. Earlier this year, two Pakistani soldiers were killed in cross-border fire with Indian forces, according to the country's military.

But with Jammu and Kashmir now on lockdown, and further change imminent, many Kashmiris are reeling with shock.

"Unprecedented horror in Kashmir," tweeted Shah Faesal, a prominent politician from Kashmir who arrived in New Delhi yesterday. "From citizens to subjects ... A people whose land, identity, history, was stolen, in broad day light."

In addition to the communication blackout, a number of prominent politicians have also been placed under house arrest, including at least two former chief ministers of the state, according to CNN affiliate CNN-News18.

Faesal was unable to reach or message the two former chief ministers, he said in a separate Facebook post.

Until last week, Indian authorities had said the deployment of extra troops were in response to a potential security threat in the region. But residents were tense even before the announcement on Monday, rushing to secure essential supplies.

Now, with news of the bill confirmed, "people are in shock," Faesal wrote.

"Everyone is mourning what we lost ... It's the loss of statehood that has hurt people deeply. This is being seen as the biggest betrayal by the Indian state in last 70 years."

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2019, 10:07:55 am »

Pakistan calls back high commissioner, expels Indian envoy, suspends bilateral trade

Pakistan has now announced that it will be downgrading diplomatic relations with India. It has also said it will be suspending bilateral trade.

The move comes after a meeting held by Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan with the country's National Security Committee. (Photo: Reuters)

The scrapping of Article 370 and bifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir into two Union territories has finally had its impact on India-Pakistan relations.

Pakistan has now announced that it will be downgrading diplomatic relations with India. It has also said it will be suspending bilateral trade with India.

Amid uproar over India's Kashmir provisions, Pakistan has also called for the review of bilateral arrangements.

In a big development, Pakistan has announced that it will call its high commissioner back from India and expel the Indian envoy to Pakistan. Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood confirmed the news to local media.

"We will call back our ambassador from Delhi and send back their" envoy, foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi announced in televised comments, while a government statement declared that Pakistan will suspend trade in a downgrading of diplomatic ties between the arch-rivals.

At present, Pakistan does not have a high commissioner deputed in India. Pakistani diplomat Moin-ul-Haq was supposed to assume the post soon after he was appointed in May. However, now he will not be taking up the post in New Delhi.

The decision came after Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan held a meeting of the National Security Committee in Islamabad on Wednesday.

Releasing a press statement on the meeting, the committee announced that it will:

    Downgrade diplomatic relations with India.
    Suspend bilateral trade with India.
    Review bilateral arrangements.
    Take the matter to the United Nations, including the Security Council.
    Announced that the Pakistani Independence Day (August 14) will be "observed in solidarity with brave Kashmiris and their just struggle for their right of self-determination". It also announced that August 15 will be observed as Black Day.

The meeting was attended by Defence Minister Pervez Khattak, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Zubair Hayat, Army Chief General Qamar Bajwa, Naval Chief Admiral Zafar Mehmood Abbasi, Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, ISI Director-General Lt Gen Faiz Hameed and other officials.

Imran Khan alleged that "India is a racist regime and violates human rights". Imran Khan added that all diplomatic channels will be activated to point out this out.

He has also directed the Pakistan Army to "continue vigilance" on borders.

Former Indian foreign minister Salman Khurshid commented on the development, saying that Pakistan's decision will not impact India. "No impact of Pakistan decision on India. It is a short-sighted decision, which is going to affect them badly, not us," he said.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan had on Tuesday set up a high-level committee to prepare a plan of action on India's decision to revoke Article 370 and bifurcate the state of Jammu and Kashmir into two union territories.

The Indian government on Monday revoked Article 370 which gave special status to Jammu and Kashmir and proposed that the state be bifurcated into two union territories, Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh.

India maintains that Jammu and Kashmir is its integral part and it includes Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/article-370-jammu-kashmir-pakistan-india-bilateral-relations-1578346-2019-08-07
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