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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2012, 03:01:39 am »

Exactly, seccesion isn't something that is "allowed" or "approved". It's someting that is done, regardless.

Technically speaking, from the secular perspective, the real way to deal with this situation, if it mattered in the end, is to not secede, but to make the current situation better. There are provisions for dealing with a tyrannical government without leaving the Union. See the 2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

You get rid of tyrrants and infil-"traitors", not secede, so that's why I believe this is all a setup of some kind because in the end, the US government will label this a form of treason against the US, just like with the Civil War. Just read US history about how the Union considered the south's actions.

Whatever the case, this won't end well, and Alex Jones and others are the ring leaders of encouraging people to rise up against their own government. That could be considered by government as a form of inciting violence or insurrection, and THAT would bring on Martial Law and a huge government hammer!
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2013, 07:54:51 pm »

Patriotic Group To Build Armed 'Defensible' Neighborhood Fortress

A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.

The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho.  The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who "voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson's ideal of Rightful Liberty."

According to the Citadel website, Rightful Liberty means that "neighbors keep their noses out of other neighbors' business, that neighbors live and let live."

Citadel explains that residents in the community will be bound by the following:

    Patriotism
    Pride in American Exceptionalism
    Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
    Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes --such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina -- or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Residents should also agree that being "prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty -- the Rifle -- are prudent measures."

Some of the benefits of the Citadel community include a safe, well-prepared, patriotic community where children will be educated in school, not indoctrinated.

The community will be protected by a perimeter wall that will be inaccessible to "tourists."  Each neighborhood within the community will have lower walls, dividing the town into defensible sections.

The website has a link to applications where prospective residents can sign up.  According to Citadel, more than 200 families have completed applications, even before any land has been purchased.

While Citadel may sound wonderful to many who are reading this, the community has posted a warning on their home page:

"Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles."

Citadel says that every patriot selected to live within the community "will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2013, 10:34:19 pm »

Precedent Teaches Us The Left Really Wants ALL Our Guns

When the Supreme Court, or any other court for that matter, makes a ruling in a case they first look for precedent, in other words to see if there has been a court decision rendered on the same subject in the past and usually defer to the old decision in ruling on the case.

The greatest teacher in life is experience; it only takes one time of burning your fingers on a hot stove to know that you never want to touch another one.

The next greatest teacher is observation, paying attention to someone else's experiences and profiting from their wins and losses, trials and errors.

In my generation I have seen the rise and fall off fascism, communism, different experiments in socialism and the kind of downright social and fiscal foolishness that leads to what has recently happened in Greece.

There is an old saying that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

There is at this time a huge debate in our nation about the private ownership of firearms. The president and the anti gun crowd claim they do not want to do away with private ownership, that they only want to modify the existing laws having to do with assault weapons -which can be construed as anything in your gun cabinet of any heavy caliber - and clips for semiautomatic weapons holding more than 10 bullets.

I submit to you that what is going on here is the first assault on private gun ownership

They will take what ever they can get now and continue to chip away until all you can legally own to protect your family with is a baseball bat.

Did you know that one of the major reasons the Japanese did not attempt to land troops on the American coast during World War Two is because they knew that Americans owned guns and would fight tooth and nail for every inch of shore line.

Hitler disarmed Germany, Stalin disarmed Russia, and Mao disarmed China.

The mainstream media is quick to report any kind of gun violence but omit the stories where lives have been saved by legally owned guns in the hands of good citizens and the stories are many and varied all across the country.

Let's look at some precedent:

In 1997, many Aussies were forced to give up their privately owned firearms. Over 630,000 were turned in to be destroyed as part of a "buyback plan" by the Australian government. Total cost of the buyback? $500,000,000.

One year later, here were the results:

Homicides nationwide: Up 6.2%

Assaults nationwide: Up 9.6%

Armed robberies nationwide: Up 44%

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms went up 300%.

Five years later, a "continued modest decline" in homicides was noted, but what has gone up in the land down under over the past few years is the number of assaults. Overall, assaults are up 40% and sexual assaults are up 20%.

Across the pond, Great Britain passed a handgun ban in 1998. Ten years later, many British "bobbies" are armed for the first time because of the amount of illegal guns in the hands of criminals.

Have you read about gun bans resulting in more gun violence or seen it on the television news?

Do you think it's newsworthy?

America, no matter what Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the far left in America say, they want your guns.

They want them all.

Don't just wait and see.

What do you think?

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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2013, 10:41:29 pm »

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 at 5:14AM
Today's Show:  THE NEXT AMERICAN CIVIL WAR

Chris discusses a recurring theme found in independent media -- the idea that the United States is on the brink of another revolution, or civil war. Researchers in this country and around the world have been speculating for years that the social, economic and political tensions of the nation cannot continue indefinitely, but will likely come to a decisive climax. Will these speculations amount to war, or is this merely rumor of war?
http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_NEXT.CIVIL.WAR_01.09.13.mp3


hursday, January 10, 2013 at 12:18PM
Today's Show:  THE NEXT AMERICAN CIVIL WAR (PART 2)

Chris discusses a book relating to the years of events and debates that preceded the 19th century Civil War and compares the history with the conflicts in our nation today.
http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_AMERICAN.CIVIL.WAR_01.11.13.mp3
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2013, 11:18:16 pm »

As much as I stray away from Hoggard over the last 2 years - his latest on Gods and Guns is actually quite good, especially scripturally. It would get an A- from me, but it gets a solid B instead b/c alot of what he says in it flies in the face of his error Romans 13 sermon he gave 2 years ago.

As for a Civil War in this country - we will see...Riots? Maybe. Honestly, like with the impending economic collapse, I don't think the civil war and economic collapse will happen until the 2nd and 3rd seals are broken in the tribulation.

Mat 6:25  Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Mat 6:26  Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Mat 6:27  Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
Mat 6:28  And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
Mat 6:29  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30  Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Mat 6:31  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
Mat 6:32  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
Mat 6:33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Mat 6:34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2013, 11:47:50 pm »

Wednesday, January 9, 2013 at 5:14AM
Today's Show:  THE NEXT AMERICAN CIVIL WAR

Chris discusses a recurring theme found in independent media -- the idea that the United States is on the brink of another revolution, or civil war. Researchers in this country and around the world have been speculating for years that the social, economic and political tensions of the nation cannot continue indefinitely, but will likely come to a decisive climax. Will these speculations amount to war, or is this merely rumor of war?
http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_NEXT.CIVIL.WAR_01.09.13.mp3


hursday, January 10, 2013 at 12:18PM
Today's Show:  THE NEXT AMERICAN CIVIL WAR (PART 2)

Chris discusses a book relating to the years of events and debates that preceded the 19th century Civil War and compares the history with the conflicts in our nation today.
http://www.noiseofthunder.com/storage/NOTR_AMERICAN.CIVIL.WAR_01.11.13.mp3

Haven't listened to this one yet, but the "truth" movement/alternative media people are really pushing for a revolution/civil war in this country. Alex's showing on Piers Morgan last week was pretty intentional on his part.
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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2013, 03:33:09 pm »

White House responds to secession petitions, calls for unity instead

The White House has responded to a handful of petitions calling for various states to be given the right to secede from the United States, calling for unity and participatory government instead.

"In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted," writes Director of the Office of Public Engagement Jon Carson.

"But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart," he adds.


A handful of "We the People" petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama's reelection. The White House has responded to all those which received more than 25,000 signatures within a month, the minimum required to get a response.

The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other. 


Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/276817-white-house-responds-to-secession-petitions#ixzz2HnMGNox5
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2013, 04:09:20 pm »

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"In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted," writes Director of the Office of Public Engagement Jon Carson.

This guy works for the "Office of Public Engagement". And he's calling America a democracy? No wonder the public is confused. Their own officials either don't know, or are intentionally calling America incorrectly a democracy.

For short, America is a "republic", and the key difference is that in a republic you cannot vote away certain, "...unalienable rights...".

To change those rights, a constitutional convention is required to literally change the Constitution itself. Otherwise, no law can be made, voted in by majority, no presidential order, nothing can legally trump those rights unless the Constitution itself is changed. THAT is united States Constitution law. It is the very foundation of the American Republic.
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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2013, 08:08:44 am »

47-states-revolt-against-obama-gun-control

Thousands of gun owners across America have had enough of the Obama administration’s attack on the Second Amendment – and they’re preparing to take their concerns to the capitols in at least 47 states this Saturday at 12 p.m.

Texan Eric Reed, founder and national  coordinator of the “Guns Across America” rallies, told WND he’s irritated about all the talk of new gun-control regulations and overreach by the federal government in violation of our Second Amendment rights.

“I was trying to figure out why people weren’t being more proactive about this, Reed said. “Then I realized I’m part of the problem. It takes somebody to stand up and say, ‘Hey, we’re not going to accept this. We’re against it.’

“We want Americans who feel the same way to come out. We want to stand up, be united and get our point across.”

As WND reported today, President Obama announce a sweeping set of directives he intends will cut down on Americans’ access to guns, setting the stage for a constitutional battle with states where lawmakers already are openly defying the latest power grab by the White House.

Obama’s plan would demand federal access to the details every time an uncle sells a .22 to a nephew, would ban some weapons outright through a limit on ammunition capacity, would waive medical privacy laws in some cases so individuals can be reported, and others.

The president also listed 23 executive orders he is preparing to implement.

“He’s essentially restricting and punishing all law-abiding American citizens,” Reed said. “He’s taking people who have never committed a crime in their lives and he’s trying to tell them that these guns are ‘assault weapons.’ Well, I’ve got guns in my home. If they’re ‘assault weapons,’ then mine must be defective because they haven’t assaulted anybody.”

Frustrated by the narrative coming out of Washington, Reed noted that “assault weapons” have been banned since 1934.

“The aesthetics of a rifle do not determine what an assault rifle is,” he said. “That’s what our elected officials in Washington, D.C., are trying to sell to the American people. I mean, if you take a body of a Ferrari and stick it on a Chevrolet, it’s still a Chevrolet. It’s going to perform like a Chevrolet; it’s just a cool-looking Chevrolet.”

Reed added that the media contribute to misinformation and confuse the public about so-called “assault weapons.”

“Part of it is ignorance of the media because a lot of them may not necessarily have a good idea of what an assault rifle is,” he said. “Another part of it is, most of the media do push a liberal spin. They’re helping to push through the political agenda that the Obama administration wants to pass right now.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/47-states-revolt-against-obama-gun-control/#JTzDZTM66KwLg8Sx.99
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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2013, 08:12:53 am »

Oregon sheriffs refuse to enforce Obama's new gun laws
'I refuse to participate, or stand idly by, while my citizens are turned into criminals'


Not only will President Barack Obama’s gun control policies face challenges from interest groups like the NRA, some local leaders are refusing to enforce them.

Two Oregon sheriffs have sent letters to Vice President Joe Biden challenging the Obama administration’s brand new executive orders and future congressional action they believe would infringe upon the rights of the people they are sworn to protect.

Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller sent Biden a letter he also posted to his office’s Facebook page Tuesday, one day before Obama signed 23 executive orders intended to prevent gun violence. The sheriff’s letter has since received more than 38,000 likes and 46,000 shares on the social media site.

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http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/01/16/Oregon-sheriffs-refuse-to-enforce-Obamas-new-gun-laws/5281358370861/


Minnesota sheriff 'will not enforce' new gun regs
Will consider any new federal rules to be illegal and will 'refuse to carry it out'



(Duluth News Tribune) On a day when President Obama was preparing a slate of proposals to stem gun violence in America, Pine County Sheriff Robin Cole said he would consider any new federal regulation on guns to be illegal and would “refuse to carry it out.”

“We will not enforce that,” Cole told the News Tribune of any potential federal regulation that could lead to confiscation of firearms.

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http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/255814/
 
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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2013, 08:33:52 am »

Well we'll see if they continue to take a stand...(BTW-NOT ONE Republican exposed the gun control agenda of Obamacare BEFORE it was passed 3 years ago!)

Mat 7:24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Mat 7:25  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Mat 7:26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Mat 7:27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it
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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2013, 02:44:54 pm »

No question the Executive Branch has gone too far, even by Washington standards. It's a clear abuse of "executive order" powers and is an intentional act to avoid the will of the House and Senate. The Constitution demands that representatives, and ultimately "We the People", hold officials accountable. America is not a monarchy. You don't get to rule by decree.

Their divided house won't stand.

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:" Matthew 12:25 (KJB)
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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2013, 09:00:52 pm »

Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

Psalms 140:8 Grant not, O LORD, the desires of the wicked: further not his wicked device; lest they exalt themselves. Selah.

Proverbs 21:12 The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.

Isaiah 32:1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2013, 09:10:41 pm »

3/21/13
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/texas-may-start-hoarding-gold-secession-next-192407075.html
Texas May Start Hoarding Gold…Secession Next?

We all know the cliché: ‘Don’t mess with Texas.’

Well, a new piece of legislation is being proposed to send that message to Washington, when it comes to protecting Texas’ gold.

A lawmaker has proposed a bill to create a Texas Bullion Depository, which would allow the state and its citizens to store gold bullion in its own facility in Texas, with the protection of the state.

If passed, the Texas bill would tell Washington to “shove off” under the 10th amendment power given the states, if we ever saw the kind of currency craziness we saw during the Great Depression when President Franklin D. Roosevelt mandated citizens hand over most of their gold.

Texas isn't the first state to think about hedging its monetary destiny with precious metals.

Citing concerns over the value of the U.S. dollar, Arizona lawmakers are the latest to pursue legislation that would declare privately minted gold and silver coins legal tender. In 2011, Utah became the first state in the country to legalize these precious metal coins as currency. Lawmakers in states including Minnesota, North Carolina, Idaho, South Carolina, and Colorado have debated similar laws.

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