The Return of the Nephilim?

[Mark]

Alien Nation

After the flood many races of giants appeared on the land once again. Here is a list of a few.

Rephaim - from the root rapha = spirits, shades Gen. 14:5

Anakim - race of giants Num. 13:33 descendents of Nephilim Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Gen. 14:5

Zuzim- the evil ones, roaming things Gen. 14:5 Zamzummims - the evil plotters, Deut. 2:20 Zophim - watchers, angels who descended Num. 23

Sepherim - the many.

According to Micah 3 God used the Nephilim giants to punish Israel. They are hidden now but they will soon return during the Tribulation to lead the nations against Israel. This will be the taller ones.

According to the Cocopa Indian tribe, giants of the past were able to carry logs that six of the humans failed to budge. Humans can roughly carry twice their body. The average human weighs 150 pounds (carrying weight of 300 lbs in group) times six humans, you now have the ability to carry 1,800 pounds. Now let us take into account that these six humans could not move the logs, and then they would have weighed well over 1,800 lbs. These giants were carrying 1,800 pound logs with ease. Super human strength is often attributed to the Nephilim.

So has there been any hard evidence that the Bible is correct concerning Nephilim giants? Here are a few example of physical evidence found. -In Montana in 1903, Montana, Professor S. Farr unearthed the skeleton of a man about nine feet long. Next to him laid the bones of a woman, who had been almost as tall. Long-haired giants called the Karankawas who occupied territory around Matagorda Bay on the Texas gulf coast, engraved their bodies tattoos and ate human flesh. The tribe did well until Stephen Austin built a settlement on the Brazos in 1823. Conflicts between the settlers and the Indians then became frequent. John R. Swanton stated, "finally a battle was fought in which about half the tribe were slain, the other portion fleeing for refuge to La Bahia." Following information is found at: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html

-George W. Hill, M.D., dug out a skeleton "of unusual size" in a mound of Ashland County, Ohio. In 1879, a nine-foot, eight-inch skeleton was excavated from a mound near Brewersville, Indiana. -A skeleton which is reported to have been of enormous dimensions" was found in a clay coffin, with a sandstone slab containing hieroglyphics, during mound explorations by a Dr everhart near Zanesville, Ohio.(American Antiquarian, v3, 1880, pg61)

-Ten skeletons "of both sexes and of gigantic size" were taken from a mound at Warren, Minnesota, 1883. (St. Paul Pioneer Press, May 23, 1883) -A skeleton 7 feet 6 inches long was found in a massive stone structure that was likened to a temple chamber within a mound in Kanawha County, West Virginia, in 1884.

-A large mound near Gasterville, Pennsylvania, contained a vault in which was found a skeleton measuring 7 feet 2 inches. Inscriptions were carved on the vault.

-In 1885, miners discovered the mummified remains of woman measuring 6 feet 8 inches tall holding an infant. The mummies were found in a cave behind a wall of rock in the Yosemite Valley.

-In Minnesota, 1888, were discovered remains of seven skeletons 7 to 8 feet tall.

-In 1911, several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and a half feet to 8 feet tall were discovered in a cave in Lovelock, Nevada.

-In February and June of 1931, large skeletons were found in the Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada. The first of these two skeletons found measured 8 1/2 feet tall and appeared to have been wrapped in a gum-covered fabric similar to the Egyptian manner. The second skeleton was almost 10 feet long -In 1965, a skeleton measuring 8 feet 9 inches was found buried under a rock ledge along the Holly Creek in east-central Kentucky.

-End of quotations- There have been many discoveries but the public is only allowed to see about 3% of all the finds. In the 1880's human skulls with horns were discovered in a burial mound at Sayre, Bradford County, Pennsylvania. The horns extended two inches just above the eyebrows. The skeletons were seven feet tall and it was estimated they were buried around AD 1200. When some of the bones were sent to the American Investigating Museum in Philadelphia, they disappeared!

- A large skull was recovered in Lovelock cave In 1911 miners digging for guano from a cave which was 22 miles southwest of Lovelock, Nevada. A 6 1/2 foot tall mummy was found "distinctly red" hair. Ancient legends of the local Paiute Indians tell of a tribe of red-haired giants called the Si-te-cahs, who were once the mortal enemy of the Indians in the area. Soon the Indians joined forces to drive the redheads out. The giants were between 6 to 10 feet tall. For some reason scientists did not seem to want to investigate these finds further so many of the bones were lost. One amazing thing to note is that the Paiute Indians formed unheard of alliances with the other tribes in order drive the giants out. That is how much of a threat the giants were to their existence! Alien Nation

The purest bloodline of Satan is the Illuminati. They are the ones that control the world through witchcraft and use their front group the Masonsto control every aspect of your life. They control what you see, hear, and even the way you think. Their worship of Lucifer is nothing more than pure Satanism in its purest form. Over the years they have through manipulation of the masses lowered are moral values down to hell. Sex is rampant in all the media. The Churches are now holding hands with the homosexuals as they indoctrinate our children to their perversion through TV, movies, comics, games, fashion, and now the schools. What is a real sign of the time is that parents do not even see it as a problem! Parents that do speak out against it are seen as gay bashers. If you believe that it is all nonsense that the world is controlled by the Illuminated Masons, then go to your local library or the Internet, and look up occult symbols. It will not take long before you start seeing them all over and mostly in corporations and government symbols. If you still have any doubts about who runs America, look at the back of an American one-dollar bill and see the Masonic symbol of a pyramid with the all seeing eye of Horus on it. If the Masons are just a non-powerful charity group, then how in the world did they get their symbol on the nation's currency?

As I have said the Masons are just a front group for the Illuminati, which in turn are a front, group for Satanism. According to Tim Cohen author of the book Antichrist and a Cup of Tea, Prince Charles is the leader of the Illuminati. People laugh at him and think that he is a buffoon, but he is one of the most powerful men on earth. I strongly recommend this book to everyone. Interviews discussing Prince Charles with Tim Cohen can be found at: http://prophecyhouse.com/audio/ These interviews are not only eye opening, but they show us the public how little we know about the man.

Irenaeus an early church father had stated that the not only could the antichrist be Jewish but could also be a Nephilim. For me this makes perfect sense. The end time empire will be a coming together of the spiritual and military force. This empire is called Babylon the Great in the book of Revelation. It's interesting to note that the founder of Babylon was Nimrod. About Nimrod Gen 10:8-9 says, "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD." The word "mighty" is the gibowr, the same word used for the Nephilim. Interesting to note too that Esau was born with red fur all over his body and he too was a skilled hunter. Many feel that Nimrod was a righteous man because where it says he was a mighty hunter before the Lord. This simply means that the Lord knew Nimrod. It also says in scripture that he "began" to be a mighty hunter before the Lord. The word began means: to profane, to defile, to pollute, to desecrate, to begin… to profane oneself, to defile oneself, to pollute oneself… to violate (a covenant)…(Pual) to profane (name of God) -Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition. In other words this was one evil beast.

"We weren't always like this… after the moon fell from the sky, the earth could no longer sustain a species. Some managed to stay above, the rest of us escaped underground. Then centuries later when we tried to emerge in to the sun again we couldn't. So we bred ourselves in to casts. Some to be our eyes and ears, some to be to be our muscles and sinews."
-The movie Time Machine 2002

Giants found have come with double rows of teeth, red hair, horns, six toes, and six fingers. So what happed to all these giants? I believe that because there were too many conflicts with humans, the giants then migrated into the caves and caverns of the earth. The rest were modified and have lived with humans for centuries. They were self-bred to be shorter and to lose all the telltale physical signs such as double rows of teeth and such. The bottom line is that they are the ones that live among us. They are the New World Order. "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." Dan 2:43

We can clearly see here that the Nephilim are the ones among us that are the iron. We are the clay because God created us from the minerals of the earth. The iron comes from the tyrants. They are the star children of the stargod angels. The Nephilim are without any compassion for humans and have only a distain for them. They are the great leaders of war and bloodshed. They are the ones that exploit mankind through a hidden secret government of iron. The Nephilim make sure that we are the slaves that are kept in poverty, disease, ignorance. In the Bible they are called the Tares, Beasts, and the Iron as outlined earlier. One of the greatest world empires they produced was Rome. The Fallen Angels brought culture and new age concepts while the Nephilim brought military supremacy to the world. The Nazi party was a proto type of their new end time world empire, which is rising from the ashes as we speak. The purpose of the Nephilim is to destroy all God's children. Gen 3:15 states, "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The word emity means hatred.

The Nephilim have an intense hatred for humans. All through the Old Testament the Nephilim tribes were at war with Israel and Israel was instructed to exterminate every Nephilim man, woman, and child. Some of the names of Nephilim in the Old Testament are, Rephaim, Anakim, Emim, Zuzim, Zamzummims, and Zophim. In the Old Testament there are twenty Nephilim tribes listed and all of them were at war with Israel. All the Nephilim died at the time of the flood with only Noah and his family surviving. So why is it that Noah and his immediate family were the only ones immune from this great judgment is significant. Genesis 6:9 says that, "Noah was a just man." Like Enoch before him, Noah also "walked with God." But there was another reason why Noah was spared. Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was "perfect in his generation." Does this mean moral and spiritual perfection? No. The Hebrew word for perfect is "tamiym" and comes from the root word "taman." It means "without blemish" as seen in Exodus 12:5, 29:1, and Leviticus 1:3. Just like Christ the sacrificial lamb had to be without any physical blemish, so Noah's perfection had to be mantained. In its primary meaning, it refers not to any moral or spiritual quality, but to physical purity. Noah was not a Nephilim. It is my belief that when the rain fell, Noah and his family were the only humans left alive that had not been cannibalized by the Nephilim. At this point I suspect that though Noah was without any physical blemish, he still possessed the satanic DNA from the Garden of Eden.

That DNA represents the fall of mankind. It is what contaminated Eve and now a limited lifespan was introduced. Not only did Eve die spiritually, she also died physically. Now how is it that Adam gained the same fallen DNA. As pointed out earlier, I feel that Adam fell prey to Lucifer's appetite too. Also as already pointed out, this DNA will only pop up here and there. In other words, there is no guarantee that a man and a wife with black hair and brown eyes will have a child with the same. They may have a few kids the same, then the next one comes with blonde hair and blue eyes. We all carry the corrupted seed from the Garden of Eden. Some of us just have traces and some have a full-blown expression. Take non-pure bred Pit Bull dogs. It's very hard to decide which or how many of the puppies will have the traits and attitudes of a Pit Bull. Some will just have a few traits not making them Pit Bulls, while others will be almost a full Pit Bull.

The purist satanic bloodline known today is called the top thirteen bloodlines of the Illuminati. These Satanists are all kissin cousins that only marry within the family, and not with the rest of us low life cattle. So what we have today are so called humans that are a mixture of the seed of Satan and the Nephilim. Is it any wonder why the world is so evil beyond anyone's imagination?

As mentioned, in 1911, several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and half feet to 8 feet tall were discovered in a cave in Lovelock, Nevada. These were the Si-Te-Cah giants that were always at war with the Paiute Indians. They would dig up the Indians dead and eat them as well as using the tribes as a food source. Now that we know that some were only six feet tall, what if you could go back in time and take one of the six foot Nephilim and dress him in a suit and tie. Now if you took him and dropped him off in a city in the year 2002, would he be noticed in a crowd? Not at all! Now what if you educated him and gave him a good job, don't you think that he would fit our society with relative ease? You bet! Now what if he became a politician or even a pastor of a Church. If you at this point have goose bumps, then at this point you are beginning to understand my point.

In the movie Alien Nation, the aliens came down and lived with mankind and were assimilated into society. They became doctors, criminals, police and such. They were all bald with coloured stripes on their heads, other than that, they were very human looking. This is a real common theme.

As I have said the Nephilim are here and are determined to destroy all mankind. They have taken leadership positions over us and are keeping us in a social cage of slavery. They have imposed on us a system of an illegal taxation that people pay without a thought. Why is because most people will not believe that these men are that evil, but who says they are men? They are the true aliens that live among us. Centuries ago they must have mingled with the seed of men in order to destroy us from within. They are the iron of the New World Order. Because of the enmity between them and us, they will not cling to us. They would rather destroy us than to rule over us. This will make the New World Order both strong and weak. "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men:
but they shall not cleave one to another, just as iron is not mixed with clay." Dan 2:43

They are so mingled with mankind that is it almost impossible to tell them apart from humans. Noticed how I said almost. For many years I have worked out a personality of these beasts. They are always totally self-absorbed and have no compassion for others. They are very nice as long as they know that they can manipulate you. When you stand against them, then the real them emerges. They have hair trigger tempers and feel that their opinions are the only valid opinions. They feel all other opinions are silly. If they express an opinion that you take issue with, then they see you as a fool and get very angry. They have no shame or remorse and can make our lives a living hell. Their moods are up and down al the time. One minute they are giggling, then the next minute they going off like a bomb. They are smooth and very manipulative. Arguing with them is pointless, as they have no empathy for you or anyone else around them.

Another attitude that they all have is a deep hatred for God. If you mention God, then you had better duck. They also may gravitate to religious cults and false religions. All they seem to talk about is money and how much everyone else has. They care nothing about your feelings and only tolerate you. These beasts can be your doctor, spouse, landlord, boss, social worker etc. By nature they will all make your life very stressful! They also can lead you into apostasy through Bible study and Church leadership. They are here to destroy you! By nature they only want what their father wants, and that is to kill, steal, and destroy. Most of the time they are not aware of what they truly are. They are just pawns in a bigger game. As stated, they can be born from humans because genetic is not predictable.

The red haired remains of the Si-te-Cah were often found with giant women with babies. Well this would be a major advantage in intermingling with early human tribes. In other words, if you can't beat them (the humans), join them. In all positions of power the Nephilim have taken over. Many people can not believe that that the government was behind Waco, the Oklahoma bombing, or most recently the 9-11 bombing. Why is because people have this deep feeling that human beings can not do that kind of violence and evil to other human beings. But the Nephilim can. These Tares can watch ten thousand children die at their feet and they couldn't care less. Human life means nothing to these beasts! They have no conscience and are the centre of their universe. Satan has had four thousand years since the flood to organize his evil and infiltrate our society. Christianity has only been on the earth for 2000 years. When our Lord walked the earth, mankind was already enslaved by the Roman Empire. Today the Beasts among us control every aspect of our reality, and do not dare to think that the churches are some how immune to all this.

TV has done a great job for the sabotage of true Christianity! Also it has created a few major icons in the subject of Rapture. These men have made names for themselves by preaching the Rapture and have millions of followers. Once the Rapture comes and these beasts are left behind, it is these leaders that the public will come to them for answers and these Nephilim beasts will lead them into deep apostasy. They will lead people to worship their god Lucifer.

Not all Nephilim beasts are intensely evil. It varies from beast to beast. Not all commit murder, but all have no empathy towards humans, but oh they can pretend to care and can cry big tears, but they do not care. One personality trait that they ALL have is their deep hatred for Jesus Christ. It is not just an anger like humans have, it is a deep and hard hatred towards God. Most are drawn to the religion of their god, that is Satanism, which includes magick, astrology, witchcraft and numerology. In the past the Nephilim were obsessed with the drinking of blood and cannibalism, so it is interesting to note that this is what Satanism has at its core of ritualism. What I find most shocking is how the Red Cross runs the entire blood supply of North America. Their symbol of a red cross on a white background is a well know historical symbol of the Knights of the Templar. Who are they? This is a statement from their own site at: http://www.knightstemplar.org/freqaq.html#connection
"The Order of Knights Templar today exists as the top ranking Masonic organization in the York Rite of Freemasonry. The Order today requires membership in a Chapter of Royal Arch Masons and in some jurisdictions, membership in a Council of Royal and Select Masters." The Knights Templar is a Christian-oriented fraternal organization based on the ancient organization that was founded in the 11th century. Today, the Knights Templar display their courage and goodwill in different ways than the ancient Templars. Members of the Order today organize fund-raising activities such as breakfasts, dinners, dances and flea markets for the support of Masonic-related youth groups, in addition to raising millions of dollars for charitable purposes."

The Masons are extremely powerful and completely in control of us all. This Nephilim organization has members that include most presidents, judges, and heads of major corporations. And it is these beasts that have their finger on the blood supply of North America! I imagine too that they have a hold on all the major sperm banks. The Nephilim form of government is not about freedom and democracy, it is about power and control and the extermination of the human race as in the days of Noah. These are the true aliens that live among us. They are self-righteous, lustful, angry, cruel, and without compassion for others. They hate God, and by nature they hate us with such intensity. They think they know it all and you cannot explain anything to them, as they will never listen to your point of view. Everything they do wrong is someone else's fault, and they never take responsibility for any of their actions. They love money and are bitter to those that have it and they feel that the world owes them a living. They are always right and never wrong. They are also angry at the world and may get heavily involved in sex and drugs. They have no morals and they are the centres of their universe.

They can also be very charismatic and very charming and the life of every party. Being funny and witty they are hard to resist. Serial killer John Wayne Gacy was a prime example of this type of Nephilim beast. "It is no surprise that John Wayne Gacy, Jr. was admired and liked by most who had known him. He was a sharp businessman who had spent his time, when not building up his contracting company, hosting elaborate street parties for friends and neighbours, dressing as a clown and entertaining children at local hospitals and immersing himself in organizations such as the Jaycees, working to make his community a better place to live. People who knew Gacy thought of him as a generous, friendly and hard-working man, devoted to his family and community… Gacy went on to viciously torture, **** and murder more than thirty other young men, who would later be discovered under the floorboards of his home and in the local river."
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial/gacy/gacymain.htm It always amazes me how people just pass this violent behaviour as being nothing more than demon possession. I think that this kind of sexual blood lust goes far beyond demonic possession. These are people that have no remorse.

These beasts are not now nor ever will be saved. Salvation is not for them. Yes Christ died for all, but only his children are allowed to except eternal life. Many are called and few are chosen. The death of Christ calls us for salvation, but to these beasts, are called out for judgement. We are called for eternal life while they are called to damnation. We are called to repentance while they are called to rebellion. They are the Nephilim, the children of the damned that have mingled with the seed of men. As at the time of the flood, the modern Nephilim are beasts that are excluded from salvation. So how can we know this from scripture?

In 1 Cor 15:31-32, Paul's says that he fought with beasts, then states that the beasts desire to eat and drink knowing that their time will pass. "I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? Let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die." Notice how Paul adds the eating and drinking here. I reminds me of the words found in Isa 26:14 where it says "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish."

The word "deceased" is the word Rapha, which some scholars believe is a reference to the Nephilim. Rephaim is word related to Rephaim who were primitive giants who lived in Canaan, Edom, Moab, and Ammon. They were also known as Emims (Deut. 2:11), and Zamzummims (Deut. 2:20). feet). So if you render Isaiah 26:14 with the proper translation, it should read, "They are dead, they shall not live; they are the Nephilim, they shall not rise…" Now this begs the question, rise to what? The answer is found in Ps. 88:10 where it says, "Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? Shall the dead arise and praise thee? Selah." So Isaiah makes it very clear that the Nephilim will never rise to salvation. They are totally without hope. So it is very logical to assume that the religion of the Nephilim is to "eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die." Now let's look at this in context of scripture. What the Nephilim did was to drink blood, eat the flesh of man, and chose any wife they wanted for sex.

In Luke 17:27 is says, "They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." For me this is a clear reference to the Nephilim and their belief. If you look at this scripture, you have to ask yourself why was it sinful to eat, drink, and marry. Again, what the Nephilim did was to eat the flesh of man, drink, his blood, and take his women for sex and reproduction of beasts to the world. Many Satanic cults worldwide practice the rituals of eating flesh, drinking (human) blood, and having sexual orgies. The religion of the Nephilim is Satanism, which in turn is the worship of their fallen father.

So now let me get back to my original point. Paul's statement is that he fought with beasts, then adds that the beasts desire to eat and drink knowing that their time will pass. "I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? Let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die." For me it is clear that while in Ephesus Nephilim beasts tried to stop him from preaching the word. Whether they were giants, or whether they were of normal size, it is hard to tell, but they were Nephilim the children of the damned. The bottom line is that they were Nephilim beasts who were trying to block Paul's ministry. In 2 Pet 2:12 it says, "But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption." 2 Pet 2:12

Note that it says they were made to be destroyed! The word in the language for "made" is born. This means that they were born to be destroyed! Does not sound like God's salvation is an option for these beasts. Rom 9:21-22 says, "Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory." The Nephilim are the ones that are to be cast out as Tares and burned in the fire. They are the weeds among the wheat. "But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath…" Rom 2:8

Another good example of a modern Nephilim is Jeffery Dahmer who murdered, raped, drugged, cooked, and ate his victims. One victim's body he had sex with it, masturbated over it, dismembered it, and threw it in the garbage. It's interesting too that he had also dabbled in Satanism. This man is a Nephilim born to be destroyed. The depravity of his evil goes far beyond what a human could even imagine. This is an identifying trait of the Nephilim. How many more of these Tares are out there that never get caught. How many of them run corporations, run for office, and work with people. I can assure you that there are many, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matt 7:14. Imagine the secret black-ops projects and what advances they have made in the area of genetic hybrids!

Now what I am talking about should not be an excuse for a witch-hunt by saying certain people are Nephilim. Some are obvious to me, but this comes from years of learning how to discern. Not only that, but there are millions of people that are demon filled and can be pretty wild in their own right. These are as mentioned earlier the un-sprouted wheat. Millions of humans that are pre-destined for heaven will be saved during the Tribulation. Just like the Prodigal son in scripture, the people that are predestined for salvation in a state of rebellion since God has not made himself known to these people as yet.

After the Rapture takes place millions will come to the Lord. These people are with us right now and may act evil, but they do not have the depth of intense evil that the Nephilim beasts have. Also our secret ruling government the Illuminati is a core of evil that most humans cannot even imagine. These Nephilim bloodlines are not now nor ever will be saved. I am talking about is the hierarchy known as the top thirteen bloodlines of the Illuminati. There are many that can become members of the Illuminati, but you have to be born into the inner sanctum of power.

All humans are children of God and all are pre-destined for salvation. All the Nephilim hybrids are pre-destined for hell then the Lake of Fire. The will of man has nothing to do with salvation. Being born human means we are victims of satanic manipulation both spiritually and physically. God therefore was obligated to fix the damage created by Satan. Since Satan was created imperfect so that he could fulfill the will and plan of God, God then becomes responsible for our the latter damage that was created after the fall. This is why God himself had to come down to be born human in order to give his life for all his children who are human the children of Adam. The Nephilim are the weeds among us that will soon be rooted out. Christ came to take the sins of his sheep and to open the spiritual door.

Because of Christ's sacrifice, we are now being called back to our Father in heaven. "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." John 10:26-28 The Nephilim do not hear his voice and hate Christ with all that they have. They are not called to repentance but called to judgement. I highly suspect that there were many Nephilim hybrids that were part of Israel.

It always puzzled me how the Jews after being saved through the parting of the red sea could start to sin on the other side. They with their own eyes saw one of the greatest miracles ever known, and what was their reaction? Eat, drink, and make merry. Also they began to build a golden calf to worship their real father from hell. As we can see from the statues of the giant kings, Nephilim giants, human/animal hybrids, and the Stargods/fallen angels ruled Egypt. Israel was always warned not intermarry with the nations, but this is what they did. The end result being that Israel became more rebellious.

I used to think that God was cruel for condemning Israel to roam the wilderness for forty years simply because they were naturally afraid of the giants they were told to conquer (Numbers 14:1). Because of this, God sent them to the wilderness for forty years to punish them. I always found this rather harsh behaviour for just feeling fearful. But there is more to this story. I get the feeling that the Jews were no longer pure and in fact they were Nephilim from cross breeding something they were told never to do. Shocking statement I know but let's go to the scripture. In Num. 14:24 it states, "But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it."

Notice that Caleb had a different spirit. From this scripture we can assume that Moses too had a different spirit. God declared to Moses that even though the Jews were forgiven, they were all sentenced to die in the wilderness. Jesus on the cross forgave all those who were killing him, but most were still hell bound. God says to Moses in verse 27, "How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me." Notice here that God calls them evil. Obviously they were of another spirit. He promises them that their carcasses would lie in the open wilderness to be consumed. This is the same punishment that will be given to the Nephilim, (mighty men) in Rev 19:18. Also Jesus in referring to demons stated "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none." Luke 11:24. Israel was sentenced to 40 years to the wilderness. This reminds me of when God destroyed the Nephilim giants with a flood, he caused it to rain 40 days and nights. Note too that in Numbers Israel murmured against the Lord. I see this as an expression of their hatred for God. Another reason that they may have not wanted to war with the giants was because they were of the same seed, cousins if you will. Hard to say, but it's clear to see that God wanted to weed out the bad seeds because they were victims of the mingling of seed and became the children of the damned.

In contrast look at David. David was quick to take on the giant Goliath and did not hesitate. If Israel was of the right seed they would, they would of ran into battle against the giants with no hesitation at all. They would have loved their Lord and not grumble against him and build a golden calf to worship. They after building the calf began to drink and ****. In Egypt they must of practised this with the Egyptians and the contamination of the bloodline of Israel with the people of Egypt All through the Old Testament one can see where God is continually weeding out the bad seeds of Israel. With us today God is weeding out the seed of the flesh with all born again believers in Christ. So has God given up on Israel? God forbid. God has reserved 144,000 Jewish virgins that are of pure bloodline that will preach salvation to Israel during the last half of the Tribulation...

From an unpublished book Return of the Stargods

[Mark]

Sons of God, Daughters of Men
reposted from the mysterious musings of brother blue
which i'm rather sure he found in I.D.E. Thomas's work available on amazon.com
"The craving of demons for a body, evident in the Gospels, offers at least some parallel to this hunger for sexual experience." -Derek Kidner
In 1947 an Arab boy tending his sheep accidentally discovered an ancient cave near the Dead Sea. In it were found a priceless collection of ancient scrolls which soon became known as the Dead Sea Scrolls or the Qumran Texts. Among these writings was one known as the Genesis Apocryphon. At first it was thought to be the long lost Book of Lamech. Although the scroll consisted of a speech by Lamech and a story about some of the patriarchs from Enoch to Abraham; it was not that book.

According to the Bible, Lamech was the son of Methuselah and the father of Noah. He was the ninth of the ten patriarchs of the antedeluvian world.

It is significant, however, that the Genesis Apocryphon mentions the Nephilim, and makes reference to the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" introduced in Genesis 6. The Apocryphon also elaborates considerably on the succinct statements found in the Bible, and provides valuable insights into the way these ancient stories were interpreted by the ancient Jews.

The copy of the Genesis Apocryphon discovered at Qumran dates back to the 2nd century B.C., but it was obviously based on much older sources. When discovered in 1947, it had been much mutilated from the ravages of time and humidity. The sheets had become so badly stuck together that years passed before the text was deciphered and made known. When scholars finally made public its content, the document confirmed that celestial beings from the skies had landed on planet Earth. More than that, it told how these beings had mated with Earth-women and had begat giants.

Is this story myth or history, fable or fact? Specialized research has revealed that many ancient legends have a basis in fact. But to answer the question, let us consult the most authoritative document known to man--the Bible.

In Genesis 6:1-4 the "sons of God" are captivated by the beauty of the "daughters of men." They subsequently marry them and produce an offspring of giants known as the Nephilim. Genesis goes on to say that these Nephilim were "mighty men" and "men of renown."

"Sons of God"? "Daughters of men"? What sort of beings were these? Were they human or did they belong to an alien species from outer space?


IDENTIFYING THE SONS OF GOD
There is no problem in identifying the "daughters of men" for this is a familiar method of designating women in the Bible. The problem lies with the "sons of God." Three major interpretations have been offered to shed light on this cryptic designation.

First, a group within orthodox Judaism theorized that "sons of God" meant "nobles" or "magnates." Hardly anyone today accepts this view.

Second, some interpret the "sons of God" as fallen angels. These were enticed by the women of Earth and began lusting after them. Many reputable Bible commentators have rejected this theory on psycho-physiological grounds. How can one believe, they ask, that angels from Heaven could engage in sexual relations with women from Earth? Philastrius labeled such an interpretation a down-right heresy.

Third, many famed scholars contend that the "sons of God" are the male descendants of Seth, and that the "daughters of men" are the female descendants of Cain. According to this view, what actually happened in Genesis 6 was an early example of believers marrying unbelievers. The good sons of Seth married the bad daughters of Cain, and the result of these mixed marriages was a mongrel offspring. These later became known for their decadence and corruption; indeed, it reached such a degree that God was forced to intervene and destroy the human race. This comment of Matthew Henry could be taken as representative of those holding this view:

"The sons of Seth (that is the professors of religion) married the daughters of men, that is, those that were profane, and strangers to God and godliness. The posterity of Seth did not keep by themselves, as they ought to have done. They inter- mingled themselves with the excommunicated race of Cain." (1)

However, in spite of the excellent pedigree of the proponents of this theory, their argument is not convincing. Their interpretation is pure eisegesis--they are guilty of reading into the text what is obviously not there.


FALSE EXEGESIS
Their interpretation fails on other grounds as well. At no time, before the Flood or after, has God destroyed or threatened to destroy the human race for the sin of "mixed marriages." It is impossible to reconcile this extreme punishment with the mere verbal strictures found elsewhere in the Bible for the same practice. If God is going to be consistent, He should have destroyed the human race many times over!

The contrast made in Genesis 6:2 is not between the descendants of Seth and the descendants of Cain, but between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men." If by "sons of God" is meant "sons of Seth," then only the sons of Seth engaged in mixed marriages, and not the daughters. And only the daughters of Cain were involved, and not the sons. And another strange assumption is implied: that only the sons of Seth were godly, and only the daughters of Cain were evil.

The strangeness is compounded when one seeks for evidence that the sons of Seth were godly. We know from Genesis that when the time came for God to destroy the human race, He found only one godly family left among them--that of Noah. Where were all the other supposedly godly sons of Seth? Even Seth's own son could hardly be called righteous. His name was Enos, meaning "mortal" or "frail." And he certainly lived up to it! Genesis 4:26 reads, "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord." That statement seems harmless enough, but what does it mean when it says that it was only now that men began to call upon the name of the Lord? Upon whom did Adam call? And Abel? And Seth himself?

Some scholars give us a more literal and exact translation to this verse: "Then men began to call themselves by the name of Jehovah." Other scholars translate the statement in this manner: "Then men began to call upon their gods (idols) by the name of Jehovah." If either of these be the correct translation then the evidence for the so-called godly line of Seth is non- existent. The truth of the matter is that Enos and his line, with few noted exceptions, were as ungodly as the other line. The divine record could not be clearer: "all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Genesis 6:12).

In the Old Testament, the designation "sons of God" (bene Elohim) is never used of humans, but always of supernatural beings that are higher than man but lower than God. To fit such a category only one species is known--angels. And the term "sons of God" applies to both good and bad angels. These are the beings of whom Augustine wrote:

"Like the gods they have corporeal immortality, and passions like human beings." (2)

The designation "sons of God" is used four other times in the Old Testament, each time referring to angels. One example is Daniel 3:25, where king Nebuchadnezzar looks into the fiery furnace and sees four men, "and the form of the fourth is like the son of God." The translation is different and clearer in our modern versions, "like a son of the gods." Since Jesus had not yet become the "only begotten son" of God, this "son" would have had to be angelic.

Another example is Job 38:7 which says the sons of God shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the Earth. Angels are the only entities that fit this designation since man had not been created at that time!

In Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 the "sons of God" came to present themselves before the Lord in Heaven. Among the sons of God is Satan--a further implication that the "sons of God" must have been angels.

Since the designation "sons of God" is consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, it is logical to conclude that the term in Genesis 6:2 also refers to angels.


SONS OF GOD: THREE CATEGORIES
In the New Testament, born-again believers in Christ are called the children of God or the sons of God (Luke 3:38, John 1:12, Romans 8:14, 1 John 3:1). Dr. Bullinger in the Companion Bible states: "It is only by the divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called 'a son of God.'" This explains why every born-again believer is a son of God. It explains also why Adam was a son of God. Adam was specifically created by God, "in the likeness of God made He him" (Genesis 5:1). Adam's descendants, however, were different; they were not made in God's likeness but in Adam's. Adam "begat a son in his own likeness, after his image" (Genesis 5:3). Adam was a "son of God," but Adam's descendants were "sons of men."

Lewis Sperry Chafer expresses this in an interesting way when he states:

"In the Old Testament terminology angels are called sons of God while men are called servants of God. In the New Testament this is reversed. Angels are the servants and Christians are the sons of God." (3)

It is thus clear that the term "sons of God" in the Bible is limited to three categories of beings: angels, Adam and believers. All three are special and specific creations of God. As for the use of the term in Genesis 6, since it cannot possibly refer to Adam nor believers in Christ, we conclude that it has to refer to the angels whom God had created.


LIGHT FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT
Two New Testament passages shed further light on Genesis 6. They are Jude 6-7 and 2 Peter 2:4. These verses indicate that at some point in time a number of angels fell from their pristine state and proceeded to commit a sexual sin that was both unusual and repugnant. Jude 6-7 states:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh..."

These angels not only failed to keep their original dominion and authority, but they "left their own habitation." Habitation is a significant word: it means "dwelling place" or "heaven." And the addition of the Greek word "idion" ("their own") means that they left their own private, personal, unique possession. (4) Heaven was the private, personal residence of the angels. It was not made for man but for the angels. This is why the ultimate destination of the saints will not be Heaven but the new and perfect Earth which God will create (Revelation 21:1-3). Heaven is reserved for the angels, but as for the beings referred to in Jude 6-7, they abandoned it.

Not only did these angels leave Heaven, they left it once-for- all. The Greek verb "apoleipo" is in the aorist tense, thus indicating a once-for-all act. By taking the action they did, these angels made a final and irretrievable decision. They crossed the Rubicon. Their action, says Kenneth Wuest, "was apostasy with a vengeance." (5)

As to the specific sin of these angels, we are given the facts in Jude 7. As in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah it was the sin of "fornication" and it means "going after strange flesh." "Strange" flesh means flesh of a different kind (Greek "heteros"). To commit this particularly repugnant sin, the angels had to abandon their own domain and invade a realm that was divinely forbidden to them. Says Wuest:

"These angels transgressed the limits of their own natures to invade a realm of created beings of a different nature." (6)

Alford confirms:

"It was a departure from the appointed course of nature and seeking after that which is unnatural, to other flesh than that appointed by God for the fulfillment of natural desire."

The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God's greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race.


TEMPTING THE ANGELS
Another New Testament verse may have bearing on Genesis 6. In I Corinthians 11:10, Paul instructs that a woman should cover her head as a sign of subjection to her husband, and also "because of the angels." This observation has intrigued commentators through the years. Why this sudden reference to angels? Could it be a reference to what happened in Genesis 6 where angels succumbed to the inducements and physical charm of the women of Earth? Obviously, Paul believed that an uncovered woman was a temptation even to angels. William Barclay mentions an old rabbinic tradition which alleges that it was the beauty of the women's long hair that attracted and tempted the angels in Genesis. (6)


STRANGE PARENTAGE
The off-spring of this union between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" were so extraordinary that it indicates an unusual parentage. In no way could the progenitors of such beings be ordinary humans. Their mothers possibly could be human, or their fathers, but certainly not both. Either the father or the mother had to be superhuman. Only in such a way can one account for the extraordinary character and prowess of the off-spring.

God's law of reproduction, according to the biblical account of creation, is "everything after his kind." God's law makes it impossible for giants to be produced by normal parentage. To produce such monstrosities as the Nephilim presupposes super- natural parentage.


GIANTS?
"Nephilim" is a Hebrew word translated in the Authorized King James version as "giants." "There were giants in the earth in those days" (Genesis 6:4). It is true that they were giants in more senses than one. However, the word Nephilim does not mean "giants." It comes from the root "naphal," meaning "fallen ones," and most modern versions of the Bible have left the word "Nephilim" untranslated.

When the Greek Septuagint was made, "Nephilim" was translated as "gegenes." This word suggests "giants" but actually it has little reference to size or strength. "Gegenes" means "earth born." The same term was used to describe the mythical "Titans" -- being partly of celestial and partly of terrestrial origin. (7)

The Hebrew and the Greek words do not exclude the presence of great physical strength. Indeed, a combined supernatural and natural parentage would imply such a characteristic. Angels, according to Scripture, are known for their power. They are often referred to as "sons of the Mighty" (Psalm 103:20). Therefore, if the ones who sired them were strong and mighty, it could be assumed that their offspring were likewise.

No evidence exists in Scripture that the offspring of mixed marriages (believers and unbelievers) were giants, excelling in great strength and might. No evidence can be found anywhere in history for that matter. Such an interpretation poses impossible assumptions.

When the word "Nephilim" is used in Numbers 13:33, the question of size and strength is explicit. Here we are left in no doubt as to their superhuman prowess. When Joshua's spies reported back from Canaan, they called certain of the inhabitants of Canaan "giants." "And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

Some commentators have speculated that the Nephilim of Numbers 13 belonged to a second eruption of fallen angels, since the earlier Nephilim had been destroyed in the Flood. And they see an allusion to this in Genesis 6:4, where it states that "there were Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men." Could it be that the "after that" was a reference to the Nephilim found in Canaan during the Israelite entry into the land? If so, it could explain why the Lord commanded the total extermination of the Canaanites, as He had earlier ordered the near annihilation of the human race.


NEPHILIM -- NO RESURRECTION
The Book of Isaiah says that the Nephilim and their descendants will not participate in a resurrection as is the portion of ordinary mortals. Isaiah 26:14 reads: "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise." The original Hebrew word translated "deceased" here is the word "Rephaim." It would have saved a lot of misinterpretation if the translators had left the word as it was in the original. The verse actually reads: "Dead, they shall not live; Rephaim, they shall not rise." The Rephaim are generally understood to be one of the branches of the Nephilim, and God's Word makes it clear that they are to partake in no resurrection. But with humans it is different: all humans will be resurrected either to life or to damnation (John 5:28-29).

We have already seen that the Greek Version of the Old Testament (The Septuagint) translated "Nephilim" as "gegenes;" we shall now inquire how it translates "sons of God." In some of the manuscripts it is left as "sons of God," but in the others-- including the Alexandrian text--it is rendered by the word "angelos." This text was in existence in the time of Christ, but there is no indication that He ever corrected or queried it. Can we not assume from His silence that He agreed with the translation!


**** OF THE TEXT
Having studied all the arguments in favor of "sons of Seth," one concludes that the only argument that is valid among them is that of rationality. "Sons of Seth" is an interpretation that is more palatable to human reason. Reason can never subscribe to the incredible notion that fallen angels could have sex relations with women of Earth. Angels have no physical bodies! They do not marry! They belong to an entirely different species of being! The mind revolts against such absurdity. So, what does one do? Settle, of course, for an easy, rational interpretation--sons of Seth and daughters of Cain. But what if the meaning of Scripture is clearly otherwise? There is the rub! Scripture is clearly otherwise! To impose a human interpretation at the expense of the obvious meaning of the divine Word, is a **** of the biblical text. Furthermore, when one deals with the world of the supernatural, rationality is never an argument.


JEWISH AND PATRISTIC FATHERS
The Jewish Fathers, when interpreting this expression from Genesis 6:2, invariably interpreted it as "angels." No less an authority than W.F. Allbright tells us that:

"The Israelites who heard this section (Genesis 6.2) recited unquestionably thought of intercourse between angels and women." (8)

Philo of Alexandria, a deeply religious man, wrote a brief but beautiful treatise on this subject, called "Concerning The Giants." Basing his exposition on the Greek version of the Bible, he renders it as "Angels of God." Says Bamberger, "Had he found the phrase 'sons of God' in his text, he most certainly would have been inspired to comment on it." (9)

Philo certainly took the Genesis passage as historical, explaining that just as the word "soul" applies both to good and evil beings, so does the word "angel." The bad angels, who followed Lucifer, at a later point in time failed to resist the lure of physical desire, and succumbed to it. He goes on to say that the story of the giants is not a myth, but it is there to teach us that some men are earth-born, while others are heaven- born, and the highest are God-born. (10)

The Early Church Fathers believed the same way. Men like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Athenagoras, Tertullian, Lactantius, Eusebius, Ambrose...all adopted this interpretation. In the words of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, the angels fell "into impure love of virgins, and were subjugated by the flesh...Of those lovers of virgins therefore, were begotten those who are called giants." (11) And again, "...the angels transgressed, and were captivated by love of women and begat children." (12)

Nowhere before the 5th century A.D. do we find any interpretation for "sons of God" other than that of angels. We cannot deny the Jewish Fathers knowledge of their own terminology! They invariably translated "sons of God" as "angels." The testimony of Josephus, that colorful cosmopolitan and historian, is also of paramount importance. In his monumental volume, "Antiquities of the Jews," he reveals his acquaintance with the tradition of the fallen angels consorting with women of Earth. He not only knew of the tradition but tells us how the children of such union possessed super human strength, and were known for their extreme wickedness. "For the tradition is that these men did what resembled the acts of those men the Grecians called giants." Josephus goes on to add that Noah remonstrated with these offspring of the angels for their villainy. (13)

Perhaps the most conclusive argument for interpreting the expression as "angels" is the simplest one of all. If the writer of Genesis wanted to refer to the "sons of Seth" he would have just said so. If God had intended that meaning, then the verse would undoubtedly read, "the sons of Seth saw the daughters of Cain that they were fair..." But the Bible meant something far more sinister--the sexual union between angels from Hell and evil women from Earth. Because of the gravity of such a union, and its dire consequences for the human race, God moved to destroy the race before it could destroy itself--except for one family which had not been contaminated.


THE ULTIMATE SIN
God made man in His own image, the highest of all His earthly creations. While God said that everything He made was good, He considered man very good. Man had been made for fellowship with God Himself, but he soon turned his back upon his Maker and worshipped the creature more than the Creator. Before many generations, the human race was being polluted by this abominable union with demons. It seemed that Hell and Earth were in league together against the God of Heaven. God's righteous anger was such that He regretted having made man.

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man. ..."(Genesis 6:5-6)

It was specifically because of this ultimate sin that God brought about a deluge of such magnitude that man and beast were drowned from the face of the Earth. In the words of old Joseph Hall:

"The world was so grown foul with sin, that God saw it was time to wash it with a flood: and so close did wickedness cleave to the authors of it, that when they were washed to nothing, yet it would not wash off, yea, so deep did it stick in the very grain of the earth, that God saw it meet to let it soak long under the waters." (14)


WAS NOAH IMMUNE?
Why Noah and his immediate family were the only ones immune from this great judgment is significant. Genesis 6:9 says, "Noah was a just man." He stood out as an example of righteousness and godliness in a perverse age. Like Enoch before him, Noah also "walked with God." But there was another reason why Noah was spared, one that seems to have escaped most commentators. Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was "perfect in his generation." Does this mean moral and spiritual perfection? Hardly. Genesis 9:20-23 disproves any such perfection. What, then, does the Bible mean by calling him "perfect"? The Hebrew word is "tamiym" and comes from the root word "taman." This means "without blemish" as in Exodus 12:5, 29:1, Leviticus 1:3. Just as the sacrificial lamb had to be without any physical blemish, so Noah's perfection. In its primary meaning, it refers not to any moral or spiritual quality, but to physical purity. Noah was uncontaminated by the alien invaders.

He alone had preserved their pedigree and kept it pure, in spite of prevailing corruption brought about by the fallen angels. (15)

And again:

Noah's bloodline had remained free of genetic contamination. (16)

This implies, of course, that all the other families on Earth had been contaminated by the Nephilim. It also proves that the assault of Satan on the human race had been far more extensive than realized. It is no wonder that God pronounced such a universal fiat of judgment.

As for the fallen angels who participated in the abomination, God put them in custody "in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 6). This is sometimes interpreted as Tartarus or the "nether realms" (2 Peter 2:4). This would also explain why some fallen angels are in custody and why others are free to roam the heavens and torment mankind.

Such a drastic punishment, both for men and angels, presupposed a drastic sin, something infinitely more evil and more sinister than mixed marriages. It was nothing less than the demonic realm attempting to pervert the human world. By genetic control and the production of hybrids, Satan was out to rob God of the people He had made for Himself.

If Satan had succeeded in corrupting the human race, he would have hindered the coming of the perfect Son of God, the promised "seed of the woman," who would defeat Satan and restore man's dominion (Genesis 3:15). If Satan had by any means prevented that birth, he would obviously have averted his own doom. Satan did succeed to a large extent. It was for this reason that God drowned mankind in the Deluge.


ARE ANGELS SEXLESS?
Interpreting the "sons of God" as fallen angels, the question immediately arises--do angels marry? In Matthew 22:30, Jesus said angels neither marry nor are given in marriage. This seems a clear and emphatic negative. However, it does not preclude the possibility of such a thing happening--obviously contrary to the will of God. And it does not preclude fallen angels, who had rebelled against God already, from cohabiting with women of Earth, as the Scriptures state.

Some interpret the words of Jesus as meaning that angels do not marry among themselves. Is it because they are all male? Or is it because celestial beings are deathless and thus need no offspring. Only terrestrial beings need to find immortality in their children. (17) But if they do not need to marry and procreate, is it still possible that they could engage in sexual acts? If not among themselves then with human spouses? Jude seems quite explicit on the matter: the angels left their own habitation, and gave themselves over to fornication, going after strange flesh. In other words, they were capable of performing human functions--eating, drinking, walking, talking, even sexual activity and fathering children.

The fact that angels do not marry does not in itself prove they are sexless. Throughout the Bible, angels are referred to only as men. Finis Drake writes: "It is logical to say...that the female was created specifically for the human race in order that it could be kept in existence; and that all angels were created males, in as much as their kind is kept in existence without the reproduction process. Angels were created innumerable to start with (Hebrews 12:22) whereas, the human multitudes began with one pair." (18)

Even in the next world, when the saints will dwell in their resurrection body and live forever, it does not imply that they will be sexless. The Bible teaches that everyone will have his own body in the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:35-38). No suggestion is made that they will be unsexed. Furthermore, Christ remained a man after His resurrection.


DEMONS AT LARGE
One other question has been raised. If the fallen angels who lusted after women of Earth in Genesis 6 have been interred in Tartarus with "everlasting chains," how does one explain the demons who have been operating since then? They seemed to have been quite active during the ministry of Jesus, and are busy again in our day. Following this reasoning, some share the conclusion of Kent Philpott:

However one might wish to interpret Genesis 6: 1-4 to link this passage with the verses in 2 Peter and Jude seems to post far more problems than it would solve. But 2 Peter 2.4 and Jude 6 clearly assert that the rebellious angels are being kept prisoner in the "nether gloom." If they are prisoners, they could not very well function as the demons are described as functioning in the New Testament. (19)

But Philpott failed to see that there are two categories of fallen angels: Those cast out of Heaven with Lucifer, and who are still free to torment mankind; and those who fell the second time by committing carnal acts with the daughters of men. The spirits in this second category are those chained in the nether regions.

It seems clear to me that the "sons of God" are none other than fallen angels, and, because of their further sin of lusting after the "daughters of men," many were imprisoned by God. Both the near annihilation of the human race and the incarceration of the fallen angels in Tartarus indicate the magnitude of the sin they committed. By such drastic judgment, God saved the human race from a calamity worse than the physical death originally imposed upon them.

Notes:

l. Matthew Henry's Commentary (Grand Rapids: Zondervan Publishing House, 1961).
2. Aurelius Augustine, The City of God (Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark, 1949), Transl. Marcus Dods.
3. Lewis Sperry Chafer, Systematic Theology, Volume 2. (Dallas: Dallas Seminary Press, 1947), p. 23.
4. Kenneth S. Wuest, Word Studies in the Greek N.T (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1966), Vol. 4, p. 240.
5. Ibid., p. 240.
6. Ibid., p. 241.
7. Unger, Biblical Demonology (Wheaton: Van Kampen Press, 1957), p. 48.
8 W. F. Allbright, From the Stone Age to Christianity (Baltimore: John Hopkins Press, 1940), p. 226.
9. Bemard J. Bamberger, Fallen Angels (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1952), p. 53.
10. Philo, DeGigantibus, pp. 58-60.
11. The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 8, pp. 85 and 273.
12. Ibid., p. 190.
13. Josephus, The Work of Flavius Josephus; Antiquities of the Jews (London: G. G. Rutledge), 1.3.1.
14. Joseph Hall, Contemplations (Otisville, Michigan: Baptist Book Trust, 1976), p. 10.
15. Companion Bible (Oxford University Press). Appendix 26.
16. The Gospel Truth Magazine, Vol. 18, (June 1978), No. 7.
17. Dr. Morgenstem, Hebrew Union College Annual, XIV, 29- 40,114ff.
18. Finis Dake, Annotated R,?ference Bible, p.63.
19. Kent Philpott, A Manual of Demonology and the Occult (Grand Rapids: Zondervan Publishing House, 1973), pp. 77-78.

[Mark]

The Nephilim, or "Giants" of Genesis 6, etc.
This Is Appendix 25 From The Companion Bible.

   The progeny of the fallen angels with the daughters of Adam (see notes on Genesis 6, and Appendix 23 are called in Genesis 6, N e-phil´-im, which means fallen ones (from naphal, to fall). What these beings were can be gathered only from Scripture. They were evidently great in size, as well as great in wickedness. They were superhuman, abnormal beings; and their destruction was necessary for the preservation of the human race, and for the faithfulness of Jehovah's Word (Genesis 3:15).
   This was why the Flood was brouhgt "upon the world of the ungodly" (2Peter 2:5) as prophesied by Enoch (Jude 14).
   But we read of the Nephilim again in Numbers 13:33 : "there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim". How, it may be asked, could this be, if they were all destroyed in the Flood ? The answer is contained in Genesis 6:4, where we read: "There were Nephilim in the earth in those days (that is to say, in the days of Noah); and also AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became [the] mighty men (Hebrew gibbor, the heroes) which were of old, men of renown" (literally, men of the name, that is to say, who got a name and were renowned for their ungodliness).
   So that "after that", that is to say, after the Flood, there was a second irruption of these fallen angels, evidently smaller in number and more limited in area, for they were for the most part confined to Canaan, and were in fact known as "the nations of Canaan". It was for the destruction of these, that the sword of Israel was necessary, as the Flood had been before.
   As to the date of this second irruption, it was evidently soon after it became known that the seed was to come through Abraham; for, when he came out from Haran (Genesis 12:6) and entered Canaan, the significant fact is stated: "The Canaanite was then (that is to say, already) in the land." And in Genesis 14:5 they were already known as "Rephaim" and "Emim", and had established themselves as Ashteroth Karnaim and Shaveh Kiriathaim.
   In chapter 15:18-21 they are enumerated and named among Canaanite Peoples: "Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, and the Amorites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites" (Genesis 15:19-21; compare Exodus 3:8,17; 23:23. Deuteronomy 7; 20:17. Joshua 12:8 ).
   These were to be cut off, and driven out, and utterly destroyed (Deuteronomy 20:17. Joshua 3:10). But Israel failed in this (Joshua 13:13; 15:63; 16:10; 17:18. Judges 1:19,20,28,29,30-36; 2:1-5; 3:1-7); and we know not how many got away to other countries to escape the general destruction. If this were recognized it would go far to solve many problems connected with Anthropology.
   As to their other names, they were called Anakim, from one Anak which came of the Nephilim (Numbers 13:22,33), and Rephaim, from Rapha, another notable one among them.
   From Deuteronomy 2:10, they were known by some as Emim, and Horim, and Zamzummim (verse 20,21) and Avim, etc.
   As Rephaim they were well known, and are often mentioned: but, unfortunately, instead of this, their proper name, being preserved, it is variously translated as "dead", "deceased", or "giants". These Rephaim are to have no resurrection. This fact is stated in Isaiah 26:14 (where the proper name is rendered "deceased", and verse 19, where it is rendered "the dead").
   It is rendered "dead" seven times (Job 26:5. Psalm 88:10. Proverbs 2:18; 9:18; 21:16. Isaiah 14:8; 26:19).
   It is rendered "deceased" in Isaiah 26:14.
   It is retained as proper name "Rephaim" ten times (two being in the margin). Genesis 14:5; 15:20. Joshua 12:15 (margin). 2Samuel 5:18,22; 23:13. 1Chronicles 11:15; 14:9; 20:4 (margin). Isaiah 17:5.
   In all other places it is rendered "giants" , Genesis 6:4, Numbers 23:33, where it is Nephilim; and Job 16:14, where it is gibbor (Appendix 14. iv).
   By reading all these passages the Bible student may know all that can be known about these beings.
   It is certain that the second irruption took place before Genesis 14, for there the Rephaim were mixed up with the five nations or peoples, which included Sodom and Gomorrha, and were defeated by the four kings under Chedorlaomer. Their principal locality was evidently "Ashtaroth Karnaim"; while the Emim were in the plain of Kiriathaim (Genesis 14:5).
   Anak was a noted descendant of the Nephilim; and Rapha was another, giving their names respectively to different clans. Anak's father was Arba, the original builder of Hebron (Genesis 35:27. Joshau 15:13; 21:11); and this Palestine branch of the Anakim was not called Abrahim after him, but Anakim after Anak. They were great, mighty, and tall (Deuteronomy 2:10,11,21,22,23; 9:2), evidently inspiring the ten spies with great fear (Numbers 12:33). Og king of Bashan is described in Deuteronomy 3:11).
   Their strength is seen in "the giant cities of Bashan" to-day; and we know not how far they may have been utilized by Egypt in the construction of buildings, which is still an unsolved problem.
   Arba was rebuilt by the Khabiri or confederates seven years before Zoan was built by Egyptian Pharoahs of the nineteenth dynasty. See note on Numbers 13:22.
   If these Nephilim, and their branch of Rephaim, were associated with Egypt, we have an explanation of the problem which has for ages perplexed all engineers, as to how those huge stones and monuments were brought together. Why not in Egypt as well as in "the giant cities of Bashan" which exist, as such, to this day?
   Moreover, we have in these mighty men, the "men of renown," the explanation of the origin of the Greek mythology. That mythology was no mere invention of the human brain, but it grew out of the traditions, and memories, and legends of the doings of that mighty race of beings; and was gradually evolved out of the "heroes" of Genesis 6:4. The fact that they were supernatural in their origin formed an easy step to their being regarded as the demi-gods of the Greeks.
   Thus the Babylonian "Creation Tablets", the Egyptian "Book of the dead", the Greek mythology, and heathen Comogonies, which by some are set on an equality with Scripture, or by others adduced in support of it, are all the corruption and perversion of primitive truths, distorded in proportion as their origin was forgotten, and their memories faded away.

[Mark]

Mischievous Angels or Sethites?
by Chuck Missler

Why did God send the judgment of the Flood in the days of Noah? Far more than simply a historical issue, the unique events leading to the Flood are a prerequisite to understanding the prophetic implications of our Lord's predictions regarding His Second Coming.1

The strange events recorded in Genesis 6 were understood by the ancient rabbinical sources, as well as the Septuagint translators, as referring to fallen angels procreating weird hybrid offspring with human women-known as the "Nephilim." So it was also understood by the early church fathers. These bizarre events are also echoed in the legends and myths of every ancient culture upon the earth: the ancient Greeks, the Egyptians, the Hindus, the South Sea Islanders, the American Indians, and virtually all the others.

However, many students of the Bible have been taught that this passage in Genesis 6 actually refers to a failure to keep the "faithful" lines of Seth separate from the "worldly" line of Cain. The idea has been advanced that after Cain killed Abel, the line of Seth remained separate and faithful, but the line of Cain turned ungodly and rebellious. The "Sons of God" are deemed to refer to leadership in the line of Seth; the "daughters of men" is deemed restricted to the line of Cain. The resulting marriages ostensibly blurred an inferred separation between them. (Why the resulting offspring are called the "Nephilim" remains without any clear explanation.)

Since Jesus prophesied, "As the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be,"2 it becomes essential to understand what these days included.

Origin of the Sethite View

It was in the 5th century a.d. that the "angel" interpretation of Genesis 6 was increasingly viewed as an embarrassment when attacked by critics. (Furthermore, the worship of angels had begun within the church. Also, celibacy had also become an institution of the church. The "angel" view of Genesis 6 was feared as impacting these views.)

Celsus and Julian the Apostate used the traditional "angel" belief to attack Christianity. Julius Africanus resorted to the Sethite interpretation as a more comfortable ground. Cyril of Alexandria also repudiated the orthodox "angel" position with the "line of Seth" interpretation. Augustine also embraced the Sethite theory and thus it prevailed into the Middle Ages. It is still widely taught today among many churches who find the literal "angel" view a bit disturbing. There are many outstanding Bible teachers who still defend this view.

Problems with the Sethite View

Beyond obscuring a full understanding of the events in the early chapters of Genesis, this view also clouds any opportunity to apprehend the prophetic implications of the Scriptural allusions to the "Days of Noah."3 Some of the many problems with the "Sethite View" include the following:

1. The Text Itself

Substantial liberties must be taken with the literal text to propose the "Sethite" view. (In data analysis, it is often said that "if you torture the data severely enough it will confess to anything.")

The term translated "the Sons of God" is, in the Hebrew, B'nai HaElohim, "Sons of Elohim," which is a term consistently used in the Old Testament for angels,4 and it is never used of believers in the Old Testament. It was so understood by the ancient rabbinical sources, by the Septuagint translators in the 3rd century before Christ, and by the early church fathers. Attempts to apply this term to "godly leadership" is without Scriptural foundation.5

The "Sons of Seth and daughters of Cain" interpretation strains and obscures the intended grammatical antithesis between the Sons of God and the daughters of Adam. Attempting to impute any other view to the text flies in the face of the earlier centuries of understanding of the Hebrew text among both rabbinical and early church scholarship. The lexicographical antithesis clearly intends to establish a contrast between the "angels" and the women of the Earth.

If the text was intended to contrast the "sons of Seth and the daughters of Cain," why didn't it say so? Seth was not God, and Cain was not Adam. (Why not the "sons of Cain" and the "daughters of Seth?" There is no basis for restricting the text to either subset of Adam's descendants. Further, there exists no mention of daughters of Elohim.)

And how does the "Sethite" interpretation contribute to the ostensible cause for the Flood, which is the primary thrust of the text? The entire view is contrived on a series of assumptions without Scriptural support.

The Biblical term "Sons of Elohim" (that is, of the Creator Himself), is confined to the direct creation by the divine hand and not to those born to those of their own order.6 In Luke's genealogy of Jesus, only Adam is called a "son of God."7 The entire Biblical drama deals with the tragedy that humankind is a fallen race, with Adam's initial immortality forfeited. Christ uniquely gives them that receive Him the power to become the sons of God.8 Being born again of the Spirit of God, as an entirely new creation,9 at their resurrection they alone will be clothed with a building of God10 and in every respect equal to the angels.11 The very term oiketerion, alluding to the heavenly body with which the believer longs to be clothed, is the precise term used for the heavenly bodies from which the fallen angels had disrobed.12

The attempt to apply the term "Sons of Elohim" in a broader sense has no textual basis and obscures the precision of its denotative usage. This proves to be an assumption which is antagonistic to the uniform Biblical usage of the term.

2. The Daughters of Cain

The "Daughters of Adam" also does not denote a restriction to the descendants of Cain, but rather the whole human race is clearly intended. These daughters were the daughters born to the men with which this very sentence opens:

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Genesis 6:1,2
It is clear from the text that these daughters were not limited a particular family or subset, but were, indeed, from (all) the Benoth Adam, "the daughters of Adam." There is no apparent exclusion of the daughters of Seth. Or were they so without charms in contrast with the daughters of Cain? All of Adam's female descendants seem to have been involved. (And what about the "sons of Adam?" Where do they, using this contrived dichotomy, fit in?)

Furthermore, the line of Cain was not necessarily known for its ungodliness. From a study of the naming of Cain's children, many of which included the name of God,13 it is not clear that they were all necessarily unfaithful.

3. The Inferred Lines of Separation

The concept of separate "lines" itself is suspect and contrary to Scripture.14 National and racial distinctions were plainly the result of the subsequent intervention of God in Genesis 11, five chapters later. There is no intimation that the lines of Seth and Cain kept themselves separate nor were even instructed to. The injunction to remain separate was given much later.15 Genesis 6:12 confirms that all flesh had corrupted His way upon the earth.

4. The Inferred Godliness of Seth

There is no evidence, stated or implied, that the line of Seth was godly. Only one person was translated from the judgment to come (Enoch) and only eight were given the protection of the ark. No one beyond Noah's immediate family was accounted worthy to be saved. In fact, the text implies that these were distinct from all others. (There is no evidence that the wives of Noah's sons were from the line of Seth.) Even so, Gaebelein observes, "The designation 'Sons of God' is never applied in the Old Testament to believers," whose sonship is "distinctly a New Testament revelation."16

The "Sons of Elohim" saw the daughters of men that they were fair and took them wives of all that they chose. It appears that the women had little say in the matter. The domineering implication hardly suggests a godly approach to the union. Even the mention that they saw that they were attractive seems out of place if only normal biology was involved. (And were the daughters of Seth so unattractive?)

It should also be pointed out that the son of Seth himself was Enosh, and there is textual evidence that, rather than a reputation for piety, he seems to have initiated the profaning of the name of God.17

If the lines of Seth were so faithful, why did they perish in the flood?

5. The Unnatural Offspring

The most fatal flaw in the specious "Sethite" view is the emergence of the Nephilim as a result of the unions. (Bending the translation to "giants" does not resolve the difficulties.) It is the offspring of these peculiar unions in Genesis 6:4 which seems to be cited as a primary cause for the Flood.

Procreation by parents of differing religious views do not produce unnatural offspring. Believers marrying unbelievers may produce "monsters," but hardly superhuman, or unnatural, children! It was this unnatural procreation and the resulting abnormal creatures that were designated as a principal reason for the judgment of the Flood.

The very absence of any such adulteration of the human genealogy in Noah's case is also documented in Genesis 6:9: Noah's family tree was distinctively unblemished. The term used, tamiym, is used for physical blemishes.18

Why were the offspring uniquely designated "mighty" and "men of reknown?" This description characterizing the children is not accounted for if the fathers were merely men, even if godly.

A further difficulty seems to be that the offspring were only men; no "women of reknown" are mentioned. (Was there a chromosome deficiency among the Sethites? Were there only "Y" chromosomes available in this line?)19

6. New Testament Confirmations

"In the mouths of two or three witnesses every word shall be established."20 In Biblical matters, it is essential to always compare Scripture with Scripture. The New Testament confirmations in Jude and 2 Peter are impossible to ignore.21

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5
Peter's comments even establishes the time of the fall of these angels to the days of the Flood of Noah.

Even Peter's vocabulary is provocative. Peter uses the term Tartarus, here translated "hell." This is the only place that this Greek term appears in the Bible. Tartarus is a Greek term for "dark abode of woe"; "the pit of darkness in the unseen world." As used in Homer's Iliad, it is "...as far beneath hades as the earth is below heaven`."22 In Greek mythology, some of the demigods, Chronos and the rebel Titans, were said to have rebelled against their father, Uranus, and after a prolonged contest they were defeated by Zeus and were condemned into Tartarus.

The Epistle of Jude23 also alludes to the strange episodes when these "alien" creatures intruded themselves into the human reproductive process:

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 6,7
The allusions to "going after strange flesh," keeping "not their first estate," having "left their own habitation," and "giving themselves over to fornication," seem to clearly fit the alien intrusions of Genesis 6. (The term for habitation, oivkhth,rion, refers to their heavenly bodies from which they had disrobed.24)

These allusions from the New Testament would seem to be fatal to the "Sethite" alternative in interpreting Genesis 6. If the intercourse between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" were merely marriage between Sethites and Cainites, it seems impossible to explain these passages, and the reason why some fallen angels are imprisoned and others are free to roam the heavenlies.

7. Post-Flood Implications

The strange offspring also continued after the flood: "There were Nephilim in the earth in those days, and also after that..."25 The "Sethite" view fails to meaningfully address the prevailing conditions "also after that." It offers no insight into the presence of the subsequent "giants" in the land of Canaan.

One of the disturbing aspects of the Old Testament record was God's instructions, upon entering the land of Canaan, to wipe out every man, woman, and child of certain tribes inhabiting the land. This is difficult to justify without the insight of a "gene pool problem" from the remaining Nephilim, Rephaim, et al., which seems to illuminate the difficulty.

8. Prophetic Implications

Another reason that an understanding of Genesis 6 is so essential is that it also is a prerequisite to understanding (and anticipating) Satan's devices26 and, in particular, the specific delusions to come upon the whole earth as a major feature of end-time prophecy.27 We will take up these topics in Part 2, "The Return Of The Nephilim.")

In Summary

If one takes an integrated view of the Scripture, then everything in it should "tie together." It is the author's view that the "Angel View," however disturbing, is the clear, direct presentation of the Biblical text, corroborated by multiple New Testament references and was so understood by both early Jewish and Christian scholarship; the "Sethite View" is a contrivance of convenience from a network of unjustified assumptions antagonistic to the remainder of the Biblical record.

It should also be pointed out that most conservative Bible scholars accept the "angel" view.28 Among those supporting the "angel" view are: G. H. Pember, M. R. DeHaan, C. H. McIntosh, F. Delitzsch, A. C. Gaebelein, A. W. Pink, Donald Grey Barnhouse, Henry Morris, Merril F. Unger, Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Hal Lindsey, and Chuck Smith, being among the best known.

For those who take the Bible seriously, the arguments supporting the "Angel View" appear compelling. For those who indulge in a willingness to take liberties with the straightforward presentation of the text, no defense can prove final. (And greater dangers than the implications attending these issues await them!)

For further exploration of this critical topic, see the following:

George Hawkins Pember, Earth's Earliest Ages, first published by Hodder and Stoughton in 1875, and presently available by Kregel Publications, Grand Rapids MI, 1975.
John Fleming, The Fallen Angels and the Heroes of Mythology, Hodges, Foster, and Figgis, Dublin, 1879.
Henry Morris, The Genesis Record, Baker Book House, Grand Rapids MI, 1976.
Merrill F. Unger, Biblical Demonology, Scripture Press, Chicago IL, 1952.
Clarence Larkin, Spirit World, Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate, Philadelphia PA, 1921.

[Mark]

The Return of the Nephilim?
by Chuck Missler

In the last article, "Mischievous Angels or Sethites?" we explored the importance of understanding Genesis 6. The straightforward presentation of the text seems to clearly portray a strange union of fallen angels with women to produce a hybrid race called the "Nephilim," or fallen ones.

We enumerated the reasons we accept the "angel" view and why the liberal "Sethite" view is inadequate.

Far beyond simply a misunderstanding of the forthright presentation of the text, the "Sethite" view also obscures apprehension of the prophetic Scriptures.

Post-Flood Occurrences

Regarding the Nephilim, Genesis 6:4 also includes the haunting phrase, "...and also after that...." Apparently these strange events were not confined just to the period before the Flood.

We find that there seems to be some recurrence of those things which resulted in unusual "giants" appearing in subsequent periods later in the Old Testament narrative, specifically the giant-races of Canaan.

There were a number of tribes such as the Rephaim, the Emim, the Horim, and Zamsummim, that were giants.1 The kingdom of Og, the King of Bashan, was the "land of the giants."2 Later, we also find Arba,3 Anak, and his seven sons (the "Anakim") also as giants, along with the famed Goliath4 and his four brothers.5

When God had revealed to Abraham that the land of Canaan was to be given to him, Satan had over 400 years to plant his "mine field" of Nephilim!6

When Moses sent his twelve spies to reconnoiter the Land of Canaan, they came back with the report of giants in the land.7 (The term used was Nephilim.) Their fear of those terrifying creatures resulted in their being relegated to wandering in the wilderness for 38 years.

When Joshua and the nation Israel later entered the land of Canaan, they were instructed to wipe out every man, woman and child of certain tribes.8 That strikes us as disturbingly severe. It would seem that in the Land of Canaan, there again was a "gene pool problem."

These Rephaim, Nephilim, and others seem to have been established as an advance guard to obstruct Israel's possession of the Promised Land. Was this also a stratagem of Satan?

The Days of Noah

Perhaps the most direct prophetic reference involving these things was the peculiar warning of our Lord Jesus Himself:

And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Luke 17:26

What does that mean? He also warned:

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Luke 21:25,26 (emphasis added)

(The late Walter Martin loved to include a "flying saucer" gesture with his hand when quoting this verse!)

Is it possible that the UFOs - and their occupants - are part of an end-time scenario?

The Miry Clay of Daniel 2

The famous dream of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel Chapter 2 appears to lay out all of Gentile history until God ultimately intervenes and sets up His own kingdom.

The various metals which make up the image in the dream are well known to serious students of prophecy.9> Even our common expression, "the idol has feet of clay," comes to us from this classic passage.

But what is represented by the "miry clay" in this image? It seems to be strangely mixed-but not completely-with the iron in the dream. The term "miry clay" refers to clay made from dust,10 a Biblical idiom which suggests death.11 )

When Daniel interprets this for us he makes an especially provocative allusion in verse 43:

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Daniel 2:43

As he switches to a personal pronoun, they, "shall mingle themselves with the seed of men..." This is extremely suggestive when viewed in light of the warning of our Lord in Luke 17:26, ostensibly directing us to look more closely at Genesis 6.

Just what (or who) are "mingling with the seed of men?" These would seem to refer to some beings who are not the seed of men themselves!

Could this be a hint of a return to the mischief of Genesis 6? It staggers the mind to consider the potential significance of Daniel's passage and its implications for the future global governance.

Are these "aliens" so prolific that they constitute a political constituency?

Will there be UFO incidents as part of a carefully orchestrated program to lead us toward a political agenda? Or has it started already? Are the UFOs, and the increasingly widespread abductions, part of the preparations for this scenario?

UFO Abductions?

There seems to be a growing concern within the psychiatric community from the strange (and far too frequent) reports from people who claim to have been "abducted" by the occupants of UFOs. These reports are too bizarre to accept, and yet too frequent-and consistent-to ignore. What is particularly disturbing is the estimate from some national polls that as much as 3% of the population may be involved!

Perhaps the most well-known researcher in this area is Dr. John E. Mack, who is professor of psychiatry at The Cambridge Hospital, Harvard Medical School. A contributor to over 150 articles in professional (peer-reviewed) journals and a former Pulitzer Prize winner, he certainly appears to have impressive credentials.

He has been involved in almost a hundred of these cases personally, and has shocked the professional community by declaring that he believes these beings may be real and that they appear to have an agenda to develop a hybrid race!12

At a professional conference on abductions at M.I.T., Dr. Mack asked the provocative question, "If what these abductees are saying is happening to them isn't happening, then what is?"13

Could all this involve a return to the strange events of "the Days of Noah?"

Can A Christian Be "Abducted?"

 In our publication, The Return of the Nephilim, I ventured the opinion, based on demonology considerations, that a Christian cannot be abducted. In response, I have received several letters of rebuttal, and also an interesting phone call from a senior executive at Universal Studios who apparently has extensive background in this area.

He indicated that he had participated with Dr. John Mack in some of his sessions, as well as with other researchers, and declared that I was wrong. He suggested that I investigate the Andreasson affair.

The Andreasson case involved a spirit-filled Christian; however, the reports indicate that she accepted an invitation to participate.14 It still appears to me that a Christian cannot be abducted unwillingly.

This opens up the entire subject of demonology and is beyond our scope here. (Our book does include a "Checklist for Potential Abductees" for those who are concerned with this issue.)

* * *

Dr. Mark Eastman and I have just published a new book, Alien Encounters, which attempts to explore the Biblical implications of the increasing reports of UFOs and their occupants, and their potential prophetic significance.

It will prove to be the most controversial thing we have done and we truly request your prayers!

Alien Encounters
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/alienencounters.pdf

[Psalm 51:17]

There was one movie I saw when I was a teenager way back in the 80's - "Alien Nation" with James Caan and Mandy Pantikan(the former played a human, and the latter played an alien).

Basically, even though the story was pretty generic(good cops vs. bad guys), pretty much, the CENTRAL THEME was that humans and aliens can co-exist together with no problems. This movie was big time conditioning based on that.

[Christian40]

Great posts Dok, also, i mention this about the giant King Og of Bashan:

Here the giants (mighty men) are mentioned in these 2 passages:

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4)

"Who smote great nations, and slew mighty kings; Sihon king of the Amorites, and Og king of Bashan, and all the kingdoms of Canaan: And gave their land for an heritage, an heritage unto Israel his people." (Psalm 135:10-12)

"For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man." (Deuteronomy 3:11)

So how long is "the cubit of a man"?

If you use the standard cubit (20"/cubit),
Og's height would be = 9 cubit x 20"/cubit x 1ft/12" = 15 feet

This is NOT really likely?

If you use the lower forearm cubit (12"/cubit),
Og's height would be = 9 cubit x 12"/cubit x 1ft/12" = 9 feet

Well, the largest man on record was nearly 9 feet tall. He did not live long and died at 22 due to complications related to his size. Recently, there have been two very tall men at approximately 7.75 feet tall. Given this, it's fairly reasonable to assume that Og was about 9 feet tall.
This is in line with present day very tall men or "giants".

Also the KJV mentions "Og" of Bashan 22 times!
I was also thinking that "Og" is very similar to "Gog" and "Magog" is there any connection there?

[Mark]

The End Times Demonic Deception

“There is no neutral ground in the universe. Every square inch, every split second is claimed by God and counter claimed by Satan.”
C.S. Lewis

The respected and late Bible expert Walter Martin said in a 1968 interview: “At some point in the near future UFO occupants would begin to interact extensively with people. Their message? We are superior beings—advanced far beyond you earthlings. Look at our technology. But we have come to help and guide you.”[i ]

Walter Martin did not believe in little green men from the other side of the universe and neither do I, for the Bible in no way teaches such things. Martin was simply discussing the “alien” deception – that is that demons have been masquerading as “aliens”, “extraterrestrials” that have come from a distant galaxy and are here to help. He goes on speaking of the theology of these would be “aliens”.

A vital clue to the UFO mystery is this: UFO theology – gained from the so-called close encounters – is diametrically opposed to Christianity. The world of the occult and the people involved in it speak constantly of contact with UFOs and their occupants, and the theology derived from UFO contact is most revealing. Extraterrestrials (according to those who claim to have spoken to them) do not believe God is a personal being; they do not believe Jesus Christ is the only Savior, and they do not believe the Bible alone is God’s Word to the world. They do not believe in eternal punishment, and they do not believe in bodily resurrection. The reincarnation of the Hindus, Kabbalah, and New Age philosophies gains a new perspective when viewed through the eyes of extraterrestrials: it transforms into planetary reincarnation, where people evolve from planet to planet in order to reach perfection.

It would be an amazing thing, from the world’s perspective, if an advanced technological civilization arrived upon the earth, claiming to be the savior of mankind and the creator of Homo sapiens. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that with all of the fanfare of scientific accomplishment, the ultimate deception could reveal itself at the end of the ages as our deliverer. In 2 Thessalonians 2:3-9, we are told that when Satan appears in human form, he appears as the Antichrist who leads men, through deceit, to destruction. Those who refuse the knowledge of the truth of Jesus Christ will believe him,[ii] (emphasis mine).

Martin is suggesting that the powerful delusion, spoken of by Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 is in fact the appearance of the so called aliens (demons) on the world scene someday.

The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous signs, lying wonders, and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, (2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 ISV).
According to Researchers

The fact is that many Bible researchers believe the alien phenomenon to be happening but that the so-called ”aliens” are in fact demons masquerading as intelligent life from other parts of the universe. Author David Hunt said: “UFOs […] are clearly not physical and seem to be demonic manifestations from another dimension, calculated to alter man’s way of thinking,” (emphasis mine). [iii] Bible researchers John Ankerberg and John Weldon said: “the fact that all UFO phenomena are consistent with the demonic theory, indicate that this explanation is the best possible answer for the solution to the UFO mystery,” (emphasis mine). [iv] William Goetz in his book UFOs Friend, Foe, or Fantasy stated: “I am quite convinced that the evidence reveals UFOs to be demonic,” (emphasis mine). [v] This conclusion is echoed by Dr. Pierre Guérin, senior researcher at the French National Council for Scientific Research: “UFO behavior is more akin to magic than to physics as we know it […] the modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably identical,” (emphasis mine). [vi] Even the atheist John Keel in his book UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse, concludes that the UFO phenomenon is demonic and not beings from another planet: “The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demon-ological phenomenon.”

The identification of these “aliens” as demons is clear to those who study the Bible. In fact, the entire study in this book has been pointing in this direction. The fallen angels, a.k.a. demons (sons of God) came to earth once and caused havoc and Jesus said that the last days would be like the days of Noah. Today, however, most people of the world have been so influenced by Darwinian-evolutionary thinking that they do not believe in God and certainly do not believe in demons. The change has come slowly over several decades and now has come to fruition. The Cutting Edge Newsletter # 1912 offers six points how people have gone from having at least a general belief in God or Jesus to accepting aliens as real. They note how once people begin to reject the truth of Jesus they will stop reading the Bible and applying it in their lives.  This will then lead them to believe that the Bible is just a collection of myths, there are no supernatural beings and only what we can observe through our sense is real. Next Satan convinces man that if it works then it must be true and therefore when people are exposed to some form of demonic power they accept it though not believing its origin is demonic. The Newsletter concludes with Satan proceeding “in stages of ever-increasing frequency and power, to his final Alien deception. Alien beings and UFO phenomenon begin to appear with increasing frequency and contact.” Because men no longer believe in demonic beings, they generally accept the lie that “they are an Alien race from another world. This other world is supposedly more technologically and spiritually advanced than Planet Earth.” [vii]

Bible teacher William Frederick, in his book, The Coming Epiphany (2009), suggests that the purpose of the UFOs is to condition people to accept the antichrist and to turn people away from God and abandon Christianity. He states:

I believe that they are going to be used to deceive many people into believing the lie that Jesus was an alien, and that UFOs started life on earth. And I also believe that the coming antichrist will, with great signs and wonders, get people to believe this lie and may even proclaim himself as the alien who started life on earth. In other words he will proclaim himself as god. […] As the return of Christ draws near the deception will get stronger and gain greater acceptance. [viii]

The Propaganda

In reality, there is a powerful propaganda machine working continuously to cause people to believe that one day the aliens will come to earth and this propaganda is rapidly increasing. The foundation of the propaganda was set via the theory of evolution which has programmed the modern person to accept the possibility of aliens showing up. Evolution has made man believe that if he could evolve against all odds, then, considering the trillions upon trillions of stars in the universe, there must be another hospitable planet that could also have given rise to the evolution of life. Modern day scientists like Stephen Hawking, confirm this notion that since we evolved, then it is just a matter of time before aliens will show up – based simply on the numbers. He warns, however, that they might not necessarily be nice when they do show up. “To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational […] The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like”. [ix]

The academic speculations concerning the existence and arrival of aliens are then continually reinforced in the media with their stunning special effects. The media has brought us the message over the years with various angles of how we should expect these aliens. H.G. Wells’ classic War of the Worlds, first broadcast over radio left millions panicking that aliens truly had invaded the earth seeking to destroy humanity. Steven Spielberg’s blockbuster film Close Encounters of the Third Kind revealed a more benevolent alien – one who had come with peaceful motives and sought to help us rather than destroy us. The litany of global saviors is growing and the public loves it. Superheroes like Superman, Iron Man, Spider Man, and X-Men have also become earth’s heroes and saviors. Thanks to commercialism and incessant marketing, we see the images of these heroes many times a day – far more than we see reference to Jesus or the Bible.
“Aliens” Save the Human Race

The 2009 film Knowing, starring Nicholas Cage, envisions an apocalyptic scenario where earth is going to be destroyed by a solar flare of immense proportions. Throughout the movie some rather dark looking individuals are in pursuit of a boy and girl, whom they eventually convince to go with them before earth is destroyed. Nicholas Cage, who plays the father of the little boy, finally realizes that there is no hope for earth and so letting his son go with these individuals is the only option for his son. As he hands him over to the aliens, they transform themselves from their simple (but dark) human bodies into radiant beings of light, which only serves to remind us all too well of where Scripture declares that Satan and his angels can transform themselves into angels of light (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). All throughout the movie various characters make reference to God and Jesus in a fairly positive light. However, at the end of it all, the earth is destroyed and God and Jesus do absolutely nothing for humanity. Selected boy-girl couples (and two of every creature) are safely transported to other planets where they will begin again. If it were not for the oversight of the aliens, the entire human race would have been lost forever. The message is powerful that God and/or Jesus are impotent (or do not care) to help but the aliens, who have never asked anything from us, are the ones who in fact are superintending the continuation of the human race. The last scene even subtly implies that it was the aliens who originally planted humanity on earth in the same manner as they then planted the children on distant planets.
Fallen

As part of the propaganda that is intended to influence public sentiment – perhaps even to the point of empathizing with the demons and/or their offspring, ABC TV introduced a movie and series called Fallen in the fall of 2006. The concept of the story is that angels, who have fallen from heaven, will one day make it back via the “redeemer” who is a hybrid with a fallen angel and human mother – a race that the sequel calls “Nephilim”.

• When we consider that ABC Family’s Fallen had approximately 2 million viewers weekly (according to TVGuide.com) we begin to see that the propaganda machine is in full motion.

We might classify the ABC’s series Fallen as sympathy for the devil. While it is true that Lucifer remains a bad guy in the series, the other fallen angels (who, biblically, are demons and do his bidding) are made to look as if they have been given a bad rap. The series causes the viewer to wonder if perhaps God isn’t being unfair in some way. More importantly, it creates fascination and perhaps even desire for some to be a Nephilim (a hybrid) as well. The conditioning of the viewer’s mind to not be shocked at the thought of fallen angels mingling themselves with the seed of men is masterfully executed in the series. Lastly, we must not miss the most important element of all: it will be a demonic-human hybrid who will redeem the fallen angels and gain them access back into heaven. Could this be an allusion to Genesis 3:15 in which Satan’s seed will incarnate? Could this be why the Antichrist is often called the Beast in that he is not fully human but is a hybrid? This series and the many other TV series and movies all program mankind into accepting in the future what are today’s far out concepts.

http://www.douglashamp.com/the-end-times-demonic-deception/

[Mark]

This is Walter Martins UFO teaching, I have quite a bit of Walter Martins teachings on MP3.

   
A Christian View: UFO encounters
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=2190615720

[Mark]

The Coming Nephilim

Looking back at Genesis 6:4  we recall that the text said ”The Nephilim were on the earth […]when the sons of God were having sexual relations

with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children,” (Genesis 6:4 NET). We know that we are in the days like Noah’s because what was happening then is happening now. Just as the fallen angels took women and engendered children by them, so too is this happening today. Demons, who are masquerading as “aliens”, are in fact taking people to create Nephilim hybrids, just like in the days of Noah. This phenomenon has been documented by numerous researchers working with thousands of people who claim that they were abducted and were exploited for their ovum or sperm.

 

Dr. Jacques F. Vallée is an important voice in the study of UFO’s. Professionally, he has worked a lot on the development of the Internet and is the author of many books on Information Technology. However, he has done a great deal of research in the area of “aliens” and UFOs also. Back in 1975 he offered some potential reasons why the “entities” may be abducting people though the exact reason remained elusive to him. He states:

 

In order to materialize and take definite form, these entities seem to require a source of energy […] a living thing […] a human medium. Our sciences have not reached a point where they can offer us any kind of working hypothesis for this process. But we can speculate that these beings need living energy which they can reconstruct into physical form. Perhaps that is why dogs and animals tend to vanish in flap areas. Perhaps the living cells of those animals are somehow used by the ultraterrestrials to create forms which we can see and sense with our limited perceptions.

 

In his book Dimensions he ponders: “Are these races only semi-human, so that in order to maintain contact with us, they need crossbreeding with men and women of our planet?”[ii] He also observes the hostile element of the abductions in his book Confrontations:

 

The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.[iii]

The symbolic display seen by the abductees is identical to the type of initiation ritual or astral voyage that is imbedded in the [occult] traditions of every culture […] the structure of abduction stories is identical to that of occult initiation rituals […] the UFO beings of today belong to the same class of manifestation as the [occult] entities that were described in centuries past.[iv]

 

John Mack
Harvard University Professor of Psychiatry, John Mack, discussed in an interviewed with NOVA how he came to his conclusions about so called “alien” abductions from a clinical position. He did not start his investigations as a “believer” but came to see that the only satisfactory explanation for the experiences that people were having was that non-human creatures or “aliens” were taking them against their will. Mack is an excellent witness because he has non-religious motivations. He also has a tremendous amount of reputation at stake. Becoming a so called believer in the “alien” abduction phenomenon is not something that Ivy League professors generally want to do. The Dean of Harvard was so concerned about Mack’s endeavors that he appointed a committee of peers to critique Mack’s case but they could find no fault with him. They then issued a statement that Dr. Mack “remains a member in good standing of the Harvard Faculty of Medicine.”[v]

 

Thus we have first rate testimony from a man who did his best to disprove the abduction phenomenon. He states that he simply had little place in his mind to accept or take seriously the idea that there were “other” worldly beings that could have a physical effect on our world. As a result he worked hard to try to find a different conclusion other than that of alien abductions. He states in the NOVA interview that he: “came very reluctantly to the conclusion that this was a true mystery.”[vi] He also notes that he did everything he could: “to rule out other sources, or sexual abuse,” (all subsequent quotations from Mack are from the NOVA interview).[vii]

 

Dr. Mack has worked with well over one hundred “experiencers” intensively, which involved an initial two-hour screening interview. He notes how he has been impressed “with the consistency of the story, the sincerity with which people tell their stories, the power of feelings connected with this, the self-doubt—all the appropriate responses that these people have to their experiences.” As a former skeptic himself, Dr. Mack notes that there are aspects of the abduction phenomenon which we are justified in taking literally: “UFOs are in fact observed, filmed on camera at the same time that people are having their abduction experiences.” Mack also says that he is convinced that aliens are creatures from a distant planet and does not consider them to be demons as we have discovered in our study. He does, however, believe there is a spiritual dimension to the abductions.

People, in fact, have been observed to be missing at the time that they are reporting their abduction experiences. They return from their experiences with cuts, ulcers on their bodies, triangular lesions, which follow the distribution of the experiences that they recover, of what was done to them in the craft by the surgical-like activity of these beings.

All of that has a literal physical aspect and is experienced and reported with appropriate feeling, by the abductees, with or without hypnosis or a relaxation exercise.

It’s both literally, physically happening to a degree; and it’s also some kind of psychological, spiritual experience occurring and originating perhaps in another dimension.

 

He discusses the various phenomena that occur when someone undergoes an encounter. He notes that “a blue light or some kind of energy paralyzes the person, whether they’re in their home or they’re driving a car. They can’t move.”
They feel themselves being removed from wherever they were. They floated through a wall or out a car, carried up on this beam of light into a craft and there subjected to a number of now familiar procedures which involve the beings staring at them; involves probing of their body, their body orifices; and a complex process whereby they sense in the case of men, sperm removed; in the women, eggs removed; some sort of hybrid offspring created which they’re brought back to see in later abductions.

 

He states the harvesting of eggs and sperm is to bring about some hybrid species which will carry human evolution forward:
To produce some kind of new species to bring us together to produce a hybrid species which—the abductees are sometimes told—will populate the earth or will be there to carry evolution forward, after the human race has completed what it is now doing, namely the destruction of the earth as a living system. So it’s a kind of later form. It’s an awkward coming together of a less embodied species than we are, and us, for this evolutionary purpose. […]
it may be that these hybrids we’re told is what will have to be. It’s a kind of insurance policy if the earth continues to be subjected to the exploitation of its living environment to the point where it can’t sustain human and other life as it’s now occurring.


We must note the mention of evolution because evolution is what will drive man to desire to become greater through changing his own DNA – a concept that we shall discuss in the next chapter.

 

Mack also discussed how those who report to have been abducted are shown cataclysmic events on large television screens. The cataclysms are the same type of propaganda that we see in the movies and the same dire messages that the new age channellers have been receiving.

 

People are shown on television screens a huge variety of scenes of environmental destruction of the earth polluted; of a kind of post-apocalyptic scene in which even the spirits have been routed from their environment because they live in the same physical and spiritual environment that we do; and canyons are shown with trees destroyed; pieces of the earth are seen as breaking away—portions of the East Coast or West Coast. […] These experiences often occur in literal consciousness. Not in a hypnogogic or dreamlike state. The person may be in their bedroom quite wide awake. The beings show up. And there they are and the experience begins. That they’re not occurring in any dreamlike state.
Mack stresses that any theory that would explain these claims as a purely mental or psyche (from the brain) experience, must explain the following factors:

 

The extreme consistency of the stories from person to person, which you would not get simply by stimulating the temporal lobes.
There is no ordinary experiential basis for this. In other words, there’s nothing in their life experience that could have given rise to this, other than what they say.
The physical aspects: the cuts and the other lesions on their bodies.
The tight association with UFOs, which are often observed in the community, by the media, independent of the person having the abduction experience, who may not have seen the UFO at all, but reads or sees on the television the next day that a UFO passed near where they were when they had an abduction experience.
 

Mack continues by stating: “I didn’t believe anything when I started, I do not really believe anything now. I’ve come to where I’ve come to clinically. In other words, I worked with people over hundreds and hundreds of hours and have done as careful a job as I could to listen, to sift out, to consider alternative explanations.” He continues: “No one has found an alternative explanation in a single abduction case.”


What is further confirmation for Mack is that this phenomenon is not just occurring in the United States but is happening worldwide. He states that it has been happening among the Native Americans, people in South Africa, Brazil and Malaysia. His professional research is alarming and yet consistent with Bible prophecy.

 

David M. Jacobs
Another person who has committed his career to investigating the abduction phenomenon is Dr. David M. Jacobs. He is a professor at Temple University and is the author of several books. He has spent more than thirty years investigating “alien” abductions. He has performed nearly 900 hypnotic regressions with over 140 abductees. During most of that time, he was quite upbeat about the prospect of “aliens” visiting the planet. Recently, however, he was able to put the pieces together and has come to a startling conclusion. The “aliens” are not merely conducting experiments but have a plan to create hybrids from themselves and us (a conclusion also suggested by Dr. Mack). Dr. Jacobs is not a Christian and so his conclusions are not influenced by the Bible, yet they reflect what the Bible has predicted. We must keep in mind that he truly believes that the entities are not demonic but visitors from another world. What the Bible has predicted concerning the days of Noah he has discovered independently of the Bible – just like Dr. Mack.

 

Interview with David Jacobs on his book “The Threat”
Dr. Jacobs’ testimony, given in a 2003 interview with Sean Casteel,[viii] profoundly demonstrates the demonic events that are happening in our day. Dr. Jacobs shared how in all the years that he had studied the “alien” phenomenon, he had never, until then, been pessimistic about the future prospects of what the “aliens” hope to do but that he despaired concerning what he had discovered.

I’ve been involved with UFO research for about 32 years now, since about 1965, and I have never been downcast or depressed about the phenomenon. I have never been pessimistic about it. But I must say that now that I’ve learned as much as I have learned […] I am very, very unsettled and upset by what I see. I do not like what I see. I wish I didn’t see this. I wish I hadn’t uncovered this. I despair of it. It’s thrown me into a tremendous sense of concern about the future and unease. […] I do not want to be this way. […] I could not have ever imagined that I would come to this position, (all subsequent quotes from Dr. Jacobs are from the 2003 interview, emphasis mine).

He notes that the “aliens” are not here to simply examine us but they have a program, which is in its last phase, to create a hybrid race and how, because the phenomenon is worldwide, all humans will become second class citizens.

And the program ultimately is not abducting people. Abductions, you have to remember, are a means to an end. They’re abducting people for a purpose, for a reason. The physical act of abducting people, which is the abduction phenomenon, really is only part of the program. […] So what we have here is an abduction program, a breeding program, which accounts for all the reproductive activity that we see, and a hybridization program, which is why people see hybrids all the time–as babies, as toddlers, as adolescents, and then as adults.

And then, finally, I think all this is leading to an integration program in which ultimately these hybrids, who look very human, will be integrating into this society. And who will eventually, I assume, be in control here because they do have superior technology and superior physiological abilities that we do not have. We would therefore be sort of second-class citizens, I think.

Now, I find this to be very disturbing. […] I know that people feel it’s positive and it’s wonderful, and they’re here to help us. But in the cases that I’ve investigated, very carefully, very thoroughly, for a very long time, I have not had people discuss that. When people discuss the future, generally speaking, they are discussing this integration program that they’re confronting, and we’re all confronting.

As you know, the UFO and abduction phenomena is very, very widespread. And people have seen tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of UFOs around the world for a long time now, at least through the 20th Century, and certainly since 1947.

Jacobs notes another disconcerting aspect is that the “aliens”, who we recall are demons in disguise, are trying to keep their hybrid activities a secret. “They do not want us to know what they’re doing. They do not want us to interfere. This is a consciously-arrived-at and successful secrecy program to prevent us from knowing.” He also comments that one doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see what is happening, though admittedly, he himself did not realize the implications until he put the pieces together.

It’s been worldwide with millions of people for 50 years. Day in, day out, 24 hours a day. […] Why they would want to do it in the first place? What’s the point? We do not really know that. But I think this is certainly a hypothetical answer to the UFO puzzle. I think pretty much we’ve answered it […] and therefore I think we’re looking at a very difficult future.

Jacobs then discusses the “Disaster Scenario that abductees keep talking about over and over again,” which he and others had heard about for years. He confesses that he personally is not sure whether they will be a disaster or not but something ”the aliens and abductees call ‘The Change,’ is going to take place.” The cataclysms that are mentioned are “all sorts of disaster scenarios, which includes atomic war. It includes asteroids hitting the earth. It includes floods, plagues, famine, whatever. It’s sort of a generalized disaster […] I do not think the specifics are all that important, but the idea of a disaster is the most important thing.”

Jacobs summarizes the interview with the awful sense of dread that he is experiencing: “I’ve spent my entire adult life studying this subject intensely. […] And I’ve never really felt the despair I feel now that I think that we’ve broken it open and we’re looking at it and examining it. And it’s just not what I expected. It’s not what anybody expected.” [ix]

If we summarize Jacob’s main points, we note the following:

People are taken
Sperm and ova are being harvested
People are constantly told of impending disasters
The beings will be with us and over us
They are currently mingling with us
They do not have good intentions
Jacobs is not a believer in the Bible and yet he has discovered and documented phenomena which the Bible prophesizes. Mack and Jacobs have both documented that the abduction phenomenon is worldwide and thanks to an Israeli reporter we know that it is happening in Israel as well.

The Giants Return to Israel
 

Israeli author and reporter Barry Chamish, in his book Return of the Giants, has documented how strange, rather unexplainable phenomena have been occurring in Israel as early as 1980 (all of the quotations below are from his book.). Well over a dozen “alien” visitations have been reported and even sightings of demons have been reported by a number of Arabs.

• He states: “of the seven best documented close encounters with alien beings probably connected to UFOs, six involved giants. These giants were determined to leave evidence of their arrival in the form of cadmium-imbued landing circles, miles of impossible boot tracks and deliberate communication with witnesses.” Chamish believes that the giants people are seeing are related to the biblical Nephilim, Anakim and Rephaim.

 

While serving in the Israeli Air Force in the Sinai Peninsula, Chamish and Private Adam Reuter were witness to strange lights in the sky that continued for three months. Both men had been trained to identify all kinds of aircraft and to recognize satellites. Chamish recalls: “What we were seeing was nothing like anything taught in our skywatching classes.” The unexplainable objects he says were “highflying, soundless dots in the upper atmosphere that flew in squadrons, stopped in the middle of their flight, joined together then split off in different directions and turned at impossible angles.”

 

Many other sightings were to follow his and after some time of examining the physical evidence and interviewing other witnesses, Chamish came to the conclusion that what has been happening in Israel is unique. He notes: “the giants thoughtfully chose reliable contactees as witnesses, allowed their craft to be filmed and left in their wake ample physical evidence. In fact, what characterizes the current Israeli UFO wave from others in the world, is the sheer abundance of physical evidence left behind by the visitors.”

 

One witness of an “alien” visitation is Shosh Yahud who “awoke to see a seven foot, round faced being in silvery overalls circling her bed as if ‘floating on his shoes.’ The creature assured her he was not there to harm her and she became relaxed. After a few minutes the being floated through her wall outside.” She relates how she thought the whole thing was a dream until she looked out her window only find “a 4.5 meter crop circle in her backyard [comprised of] silicon and cadmium.”

Another witness is Ada, a medical electronics technician, from Kfar Saba which is where several unidentified flying objects were recorded on video. In the summer of 1993 she went to her bedroom for an afternoon nap when she saw “a three-dimensional being less than a meter” away from her. She notes that he was tall and was “wearing a ‘space suit’ of silver and green. The being emitted white beams from his waist area.” The emission of light reminds of us the Bible’s warning that even Satan’s is able to transform himself into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). In order to set the stage for the grander deception that is coming upon the world, Satan needs to condition the world that the beings that are coming are glorious and have magnificent bodies.

The hardest evidence to dismiss that fallen angels are appearing in Israel comes from the village of Yatzitz, twelve miles east of Rishon Letzion. Chamish reports:

 

Herzl Casatini, the village security chief and his friend Danny Ezra were sharing conversation when they heard an explosion and felt Ezra’s house shake. Herzl opened the door and stood face to face with a nine foot tall creature in metallic clothes whose face was hidden in “a haze.” He shut the door and called the police. They arrived and discovered deep boot tracks in the hard mud. The tracks sunk 35 centimeters into the ground meaning whoever made them had to have weighed, literally, a ton. […] The tracks carried on for 8 kilometers. […] Sometimes the distance between tracks was twelve feet, (picture available at douglashamp.com).

 

Just like Mack and Jacobs, Chamish forecasts that the arrival of these beings will have dire consequences: “The biblical giants were God’s enemy and Israel’s armies were the means to their utter destruction. There is a legitimate reason to contemplate the recent re-arrival of giants in Israel with a good measure of dread.” The entities appear to be none other than the fallen angels (sons of God) who, in the days before the flood, took the daughters of men and produced the Nephilim/giants by them. The in-depth research of Mack, Jacobs and Chamish indicates that the prophecy of Daniel 2:43 (“they will mingle with the seed of men”) has already begun.

 

They Flee at the Name of Jesus
There is one final proof that these so called “aliens” are in fact demons that are hell bent on destroying humanity – and that is the fact that they flee at the name of Jesus. Abduction researchers David Ruffino and Joe Jordan discuss in their book Unholy Communion: The Alien Abduction Phenomenon, Where It Originates – And How It Stops how the phenomenon of abductions is real but the entities commonly referred to as “aliens” are in fact demons. They have counseled and documented more than 300 actual test cases of people that claim to have been abducted and have encouraged many of those abductees to put their faith in Jesus. After doing so, many found that the abductions ceased forever and if the entities returned then just mentioning the name of Jesus would cause them to flee.[xi] The entities in question, therefore, are demonic and not truly “aliens” from some other world but are trying to deceive the world of the impending rapture of believers before the beginning of the tribulation.


This conclusion is noted in an article from March 2007 entitled Alien Abductions Stopped by the Name of Jesus Christ, Stephen Yulish. He states that he believes that “extraterrestrials are not aliens from another planet or galaxy, but are instead fallen angels here to undertake a diabolical plan that is more sinister than any alien invasion.” [xii] He notes that ultimately the UFO battle is not for the planet but for the soul of man. He writes: “These extraterrestrial fallen angels are setting us up for the coming great deception where those people left behind when the body of Christ is caught up to be with Him in the air during the harpazo (rapture) will believe that those who have suddenly vanished were abducted by UFOs.”[xiii] Yulish is likewise convinced that the current UFO “alien” deception is nothing new; it is just a repeat of how things were in the days of Noah.

 

Conclusion
Based on the extensive investigation of many researchers, among them John Mack from Harvard, who interviewed on numerous occasions over one hundred abductees, we see the demons have been harvesting eggs from women and sperm from men for many years. According to the testimony of some abductees, they are using the genetic material to create hybrid babies – that is a mix between themselves and humans. This is also the dire conclusion of researcher Dr. David Jacobs who has determined that the “aliens” are not just experimenting on humans but have a specific program that they are working to accomplish. Their goal, according to him, is to create an “alien”-human hybrid race and take control of the planet. Thus, we have come full circle to the days of Noah. Once again Satan and his hordes are attempting to corrupt the image of man by mixing their seed with humans. However, whereas the abductee cases are limited to a number of people, a time is coming when they will attempt to mingle their seed with all of humanity on a global scale, which we will see in chapter seventeen.

The most obvious conclusion is that we are currently living in the days that are just like the days of Noah. Though people are going about their business thinking that everything is fine and will go on indefinitely, judgment is quickly approaching. It is approaching quickly because of what is happening behind the scenes; the sons of God have returned and have resumed their devilish program wherein they see that the daughters of men are good and are taking them as wives (think: their seed and for their incubation) in order to create Nephilim. As the many abductees have testified, the “aliens” are using their sperm and eggs to create a new race (post human). The demons are mingling their seed with the seed of men, just like the book of Daniel prophesied. In the book of ancient Jewish book of Giants we read that the demons also mixed the seed of different animals together (miscegenation) and created monsters and giants. Could this really happen in our days? The fact is it has already begun.

http://www.douglashamp.com/part-fifteen-the-coming-nephilim/

[Mark]

Did NATO Secretly Study UFOs And Conclude Human-Looking Aliens Are In Fact Walking Among Us?

Robert Dean, a long-time figure within the field of research into all things flying and saucer-shaped, maintains that while working with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in the 1960s, he learned that NATO had conducted a secret study of the UFO issue. More controversially, Dean says that part of the study demonstrated that, at the time in question, NATO had come to the conclusion that we had four different civilizations – cultures, intelligences, if you will – that were present here on Earth and that were secretly visiting us and even interacting with us. One of the most interesting conclusions of the report, and which struck a particularly strong chord with Dean, was that one of the groups – of the civilizations or cultures that were here on this planet – was identical with us; or rather, that we were identical with them. And that startling revelation, added Dean, made a vast and profound impression on the people involved in the investigations.
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/06/alien-infiltration/


Russian Newspaper Claims Graves Of 'Giant Aliens' Found

A team of anthropologists found a mysterious burial in the jungle near the city of Kigali Rwanda (Central Africa). The remains belong to gigantic creatures that bear little resemblance to humans. Head of research group believes that they could be visitors from another planet who died as a result of a catastrophe. According to the scientists, they were buried at least 500 years ago. At first, researchers thought that they came across the remains of ancient settlements, but no signs of human life have been found nearby. The 40 communal graves had approximately 200 bodies in them, all perfectly preserved. The creatures were tall - approximately 7 feet. Their heads were disproportionately large and they had no mouth, nose or eyes. The anthropologists believe that the creatures were members of an alien landing, possibly destroyed by some terrestrial virus to which they had no immunity. However, no traces of the landing of the spacecraft or its fragments were discovered.
http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-06-2011/118302-giants_cemetery-0/

[Psalm 51:17]

Did NATO Secretly Study UFOs And Conclude Human-Looking Aliens Are In Fact Walking Among Us?

Robert Dean, a long-time figure within the field of research into all things flying and saucer-shaped, maintains that while working with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in the 1960s, he learned that NATO had conducted a secret study of the UFO issue. More controversially, Dean says that part of the study demonstrated that, at the time in question, NATO had come to the conclusion that we had four different civilizations – cultures, intelligences, if you will – that were present here on Earth and that were secretly visiting us and even interacting with us. One of the most interesting conclusions of the report, and which struck a particularly strong chord with Dean, was that one of the groups – of the civilizations or cultures that were here on this planet – was identical with us; or rather, that we were identical with them. And that startling revelation, added Dean, made a vast and profound impression on the people involved in the investigations.
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/06/alien-infiltration/

Hey Dok, this one's for you!

[jackie]

my flesh rally didn't want confirmation on this subject, praise you Lord ! you give us what we need.
People in my family for the most part with just 2 exceptions, think I have grown crazy, that is how I felt also sitting amongst my IFB brothers and sisters.

[Psalm 51:17]

my flesh rally didn't want confirmation on this subject, praise you Lord ! you give us what we need.
People in my family for the most part with just 2 exceptions, think I have grown crazy, that is how I felt also sitting amongst my IFB brothers and sisters.

IMHO, I think the reason why even some of the most "seasoned" preachers, Christians, et al don't have the understanding of the end times we're living in is b/c largely they're not aware of all the wolves in sheeps clothing that are creeping in.

For example, I knew this one pastor in my previous city who's blog I read from time to time - one time, he was talking to a room of people over the end times, and telling them how we were told such and such for so many years and nothing came to pass. Ie-supposedly Jesus was going to come back when Israel formed in 1948(and didn't happen), and gave other examples like natural disasters, communism, etc.

HOWEVER-from time to time on his blogs, he will PRAISE RICK WARREN, and one time said how they feel indebted to him for helping them build back their churches. And on other occassions, he's said nice things about Rob Bell, Tony Compalo, and "The Shack"(ie-I even emailed him one time asking him why he endorsed "The Shack", and he emailed me back saying, "Did you read my blog? I didn't recommend it, but just said some positive things about it"  ). And on another occassion, he said how he started hanging out with Catholics and liberal Protestants b/c Warren said it was a good idea to have fellowship with them.

Didn't Jesus say many false prophets would rise in the end times and deceive many? Notice the key word MANY?

[jackie]

There sure are many false prophets today. The real men and woman of God are hard to find and thanks to denominations and people following "man" instead of the Lord, the church has become so divided.

I do believe that God will call out His remnant and already is doing so. and we as His people have a lot of teaching and preaching to do, there are too many lost souls!

Luke 10

 1After these things the LORD appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

 2Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

 3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

[Psalm 51:17]

There sure are many false prophets today. The real men and woman of God are hard to find and thanks to denominations and people following "man" instead of the Lord, the church has become so divided.

I do believe that God will call out His remnant and already is doing so. and we as His people have a lot of teaching and preaching to do, there are too many lost souls!

Luke 10

 1After these things the LORD appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

 2Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

 3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

Yeah, I attended a Lutheran Church when I was out of town a month ago, supposedly, it was "conservative" b/c they didn't have any female employees albeit one working leading the education sector, and none of their "laws" have been changed. Ultimately, the service and sermon did NOT sit well with me. The pastor preached a "do good for the community" type of sermon, the Jesus they had on the pdf screen showed him flashing 3 fingers and holding down 2(it eeeked the New Age Jesus ala Maitreya/'Master Jesus'), and something about the pastor didn't sit well with me either.

FWIW, not all pastors are masons, jesuits, witches, etc - however, alot of them were trained in these Jesuit-infiltrated bible colleges that use these corrupt Vaticanus manuscripts. The pastor of my church seems to have this mindset from his bible college.

[jackie]

I had never heard of "The Shack" until Bible study last week, really a bad book to say the least. So many are compelled to read these books filled with abominations and lies.  The enemy is hard at work!! He has all these Christians that are weak in the faith reading this  junk, just like Rick Warren had them all reading the purpose driven life....   Just stick with your KJB , you need nothing else to read.