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What is the Gap Theory? Did anything happen between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2?

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« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2014, 12:11:22 pm »

i'm glad you asked that because i had thought about that recently

i read the above posts i just want to point out

Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

if this "serpent" is Satan (Mike Hoggard believes this) then this is the first occurrence of Satan falling.

Yeah but the thing is that it is in the past tense

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

which makes me go back in time to Genesis 3.

Hoggard believes that Satan is in a continual state of falling which started in Genesis 3. Do what you want with this reply it is something that i have just started looking at recently.

On the first point: In my post I was addressing the physical removal of Satan from heaven which In my view has nothing to do with his spiritual fall. I realize that people usually fail to distinguish between the two. But it is a distinction that is important to make since all the new testment verses are about Satan`s physical removal, not his spiritual condition.

Jesus describes Satan as a murderer from the beginning and as the father of lies. This implies that satan was corrupt very early on. Murderer from the beginning might suggest that he was created in a fallen condition. But I think it more likely that satan is the same angel that is called Lucifer. Lucifer was perfect for awhile, then fell spiritually. And I believe this fall of Lucifer took place before adam was created. Some argue that Lucifer is not Satan but my thought is: Why does the Bible tell the Lucifer story unless Lucifer is Satan? To me it doesn`t make sense for the story to be there unless Lucifer and Satan are one and same.

On the fall as lightening past tense point. If I behold a star fall from the sky today and I tell you about it tomorrow I will say "I beheld and a star fell from the sky." Past tense doesn`t necessarilly mean a long time ago is my point.

It brings up a point here. What do you think Jesus was doing before He came to earth as a man? My view is: Jesus in His pre-human condition would have been the One throwing Satan out of heaven and making him fall like lightning. I think the fact that Jesus is eyewitnees to this fall implies this event happened while Jesus was on the earth as a man.
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