Message #57447

[Mark]

i'm not a gap theory believer but something else that gets tied into this is the fall of satan. one believer i met said his theory was that satan fell on the first day of creation, just a theory, well they say that satan must have fallen before he tempted Eve in the Garden

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

here satan gets cursed

Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

so something to think about when did satan first fall at what time?

Here is my take on the fall of Satan. The Bible does not state it. You can glean some time when it happened, but not the exact time of it. For one thing Satan being an angel was created way before this creation was, well, created. The angels first abode is in Heaven, the place where God lives which is outside of creation. The angels were already there.

Jde 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

This verse shows that they live in Heaven not creation.

Here in Job, the Lord is talking about when He created creation. As you see the angels were already there.

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

So for starters we see that it didn't happen on the first day. In the beginning of Job, we know that he still has access to Heaven.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

This happens some time AFTER the Flood. But he is now called Satan and not Lucifer. We know that eventually Satan is cast out from Heaven and stuck inside of Creation.But we do not know when that happens or happened either.