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« on: April 28, 2011, 11:36:38 am »

White House releases Obama's long-form birth certificate

By DEBRA KAMIN  04/27/2011 17:40

In response to media inquiries, US President holds press conference and releases long-form Hawaiian birth certificate; calls issue a "side show." Since first announcing his candidacy for United States president, Barack Obama has faced intense questioning from critics about the legitimacy of his US citizenship. In 2008, while still on the campaign trail, his office attempted to quiet those inquiries and released his Hawaiian birth certificate. On Tuesday, in response to continued speculation as to his place of birth, the White House released Obama's long-form birth certificate and posted a copy on their website.The certificate gives the president's full name as Barack Hussein Obama and lists his birth as occurring at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii. Many Obama critics and vocal Republican officials have voiced concern that Obama was actually born in Kenya, the birthplace of his father, a claim the US president has always vehemently denied.

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 12:35:38 pm »

Look at Donald Trump's role in all this - he came out publicly questioning it, ultimately rallying conservatives behind him.

Now? Trump is backing down saying how Obama finally provided proof. If anything, the whole thing was a charade and SET UP to put out all the fire and controversy.

Not that we should be troubled about this, as our true hope is eternal life in the New Jeruselum, and not on this present earth where its works are evil.

BTW - everyone should have seen how the whole election system is rigged way back in 2008 when NOBODY questioned Obama's birth certificate, including Obama's opponent John McCain.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 01:15:28 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbasVmebCUI&feature=player_embedded#at=56

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 09:35:21 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iy56PkCZCs&feature=share

The facts regarding Obama have been uncovered. This clip speaks volumes about things he really doesn't want us to know!
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 09:56:00 pm »

Guess what - OBAMA NABS OSAMA...

The man's on a roll now! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 10:27:56 am »

Monday, May 2, 2011
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BORN IN THE USA?

Online 'birth certificate' document 'was changed'
Analysis raises possibility content of text was altered

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Posted: May 01, 2011
5:27 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily


A computer document expert who analyzed the online image of Barack Obama's purported Certificate of Live Birth for WND confirmed there are anomalies inconsistent with a simple scanning process, and there is evidence it has been manipulated, but there's no way to determine exactly what may have been modified.

The end result is that while it is known there were changes, the full extent of operations that were done to the image cannot be determined at this point.


Image released by the White House April 27, 2011
 


The White House last week trumpeted the release of the above document, calling it "proof positive" Obama was born in Hawaii, as if that would answer all of the questions about his presidential eligibility. In fact, those who contend the founders of the country excluded dual citizens from qualifying as a "natural born Citizen," as the Constitution requires presidents to be, say the document actually proves Obama's ineligibility.

It verifies that Barack Obama Sr. was listed as the father, but he never was a U.S. citizen.

Obama Jr. himself even seemed to hold that position, suggesting in a resolution he co-sponsored to address Sen. John McCain's status as a "natural born Citizen" that the status requires "American citizen" parents.

The original Obama document presumably is in the custody of the state of Hawaii, and officials there explained to WND that they put the original in a copier and copied it onto "safety paper," sending those copies along to the president.

Be the first to get the new eligibility book signed by Jerome Corsi and help get TV commercials on the air to bust this issue wide open!

From there, the president apparently made copies of those documents to hand out to the press corps, and then someone uploaded an image that was posted online – the image that, actually, is the only one most Americans have seen.

(Story continues below)

     


It was analyzed by Ivan Zatkovich of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for telecommunications, web publishing and ecommerce and has provided services for corporations such as McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin, Citicorp and Amazon.com. Zatkovich has 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years has been an expert witness providing testimony in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation.

He confirmed that the multiple layers of the PDF document are anomalous.

"When a paper document is scanned on a scanner and saved as a PDF file it normally contains only a single layer of graphical information. The PDF that appears on the White House website however, contains multiple layers of graphic information. Multiple layers usually appear in a document like this when it is being edited or modified in some fashion.

"It is possible to take a single layer PDF and inadvertently create multiple layers, without changing the image in any fashion. But that does not appear to be the case here. The multiple layers in the PDF document are a result of changes made to the image," his report said.

Among the various items that were separated into different layers include the main text, the mother's occupation, the dates accepted, the stamp and signature of the state registrar and the time stamp of the state registrar:


The document is broken into layers.
 


The background layer – with all of the additional layers removed – essentially has the text removed except some random portions of signatures and a white border where the text appears on other layers:


The background, without layers of information added on top
 


The main layer of text reveals most of the wording on the document, with strange exceptions such as the first part of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama's signature. The main text layer has only "unham Obama." Likewise, "Kenya" is spelled "enya" and "Barack" is spelled Ba ack."


The layer with the main parts of the text
 


The report said in field 17a, for example, the question regards the "Type of Occupation Outside Home During Pregnancy," and the answer is "None." However, the "Non" and the "e" are on separate layers. Likewise with the date accepted. There "Date A" and "AUG – 8 6" are on a separate layer from the rest:


Unusual division of characters of information on different layers
 


The report said there are two groups of overlays, the first including the main page of text and a separate one with the mother's occupation. The second group involves the stamps, with one of the local registrar, another from the registrar general, another for the state registrar and yet another for the time stamp of the state registrar.

"All of the overlays were of a higher resolution than the background layer," the report said. "This suggests that the overlays [were] created to enhance that content (i.e. make the text darker and/or the edges sharper). The only two plausible explanations for this pattern of layers is: 1. Someone was changing the content of both the text and the stamps. 2. Someone was systematically enhancing the black text layers for legibility, and then enhancing the stamp overlays separately for legibility."


The white halos around the lettering suggests manipulation here too
 


The report also addresses the white haloes around most of the printing on the document.

"It has been suggested that these 'suspicious white borders' indicate that items were pasted into the image. The pasting of content itself does not necessarily create a white border. A more likely reason for this halo effect is that the text was enhanced," the report said.

"This does not mean that other content in the document was not changed. However, most of the detectable changes are consistent with someone attempting to enhance the appearance of the document rather than change the content."

It concludes that while the modifications are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document, "it is possible that in addition to enhancing the legibility of the document that the content of the document was also changed.

"There is no specific evidence of how or why that content would have been changed, but the evidence clearly indicates that the document was changed," the report said.

Zatkovich told WND that the White House image "has specific content extracted from that base layer and enhanced."

He said, "This was done through an explicit operation to edit and/or enhance the printing in the document. There is no ambiguity here. There was an explicit action by a person to modify the document. … Mostly like to enhance the legibility, but still an explicit action none the less."

He explained the analysis he did was similar to the analysis that routinely is done on evidentiary documents for cell phones and computers in cases involving child ****, fraud and murder cases.

"The content clearly indicates that the document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it was placed on the web," he said.

A second opinion, from Jon Berryhill of Berryhill Computer Forensics, said for a complete analysis, access to the original document would be best.

A video based on this story has now been posted on YouTube:


   
 

Read more: Online 'birth certificate' document 'was changed' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=293421#ixzz1LD20fuqZ
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 02:53:32 pm »

I call this one "FUN WITH MATH"   Roll Eyes

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Question #1:

Hamas is to Britain as Al'Qaeda is to _____________*.



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*USA

Question #2:

If the distance between the center of a puppet's breast and its Puppetmaster's fingertips is 11",
and the distance between the puppet's outstretched hands is 18", assuming the hands of the puppet are held out perpendicularly to the body,
please give the measurement of the hypotenuse of the right triangle formed by the Puppetmaster's fingertips, the center of the puppet's breast,
and the tip of the puppet's fingers, using the Pythagorean Theorem: ______________*.

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*A squared plus B squared = C squared, so 121 + 81 = 202, The square root of 202 equals 14.213 or the square root of 202 (only factors of 202 are 202, 101, 2 and 1)
So the answer is 14.213

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OH YEAH and QUESTION NUMBER 3 ON THE 2011 INTELLIGENCE TEST IS,
"Where is the real birth certificate?"
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 07:10:19 pm »

dr. johnson was right they could easily produce a false birth certificate. why string us along? they're testing our gullability(is that a word?). the majority is so easily fooled and believe anything the media says.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 03:16:39 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaajbOEWpk&feature=youtu.be

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said President Barack Obama's birth certificate is not authentic. Arpaio revealed the findings of a investigation into the president's birth certificate at a 1 hour and 20 minute news conference Thursday, calling the certificate "suspect." Arpaio's team of investigators said they found that the long-form birth certificate was created electronically and never existed in paper form. The president's Selective Service card was also questioned. Arpaio's investigators claimed the document has "failed every test we put it through." At Thursday's news conference, investigators said they will request a criminal investigation. They also said they have identified a person of interest in the forgery of the birth certificate. Arpaio said he is not accusing the president of the crime. He said they will investigate who is behind the "possible forgery and fraud." "I haven't decided where to go with this yet," Arpaio said. "I just wanted to get the facts of this situation. We haven't accused anyone of anything." The controversy over the certificate has been widely debunked, but it remains alive in the eyes of some conservatives, namely members of the Tea Party who urged Arpaio to look into the matter. For the past six months, Arpaio's "Cold Case Posse" has been investigating the authenticity of those documents to see if there's been any fraud or forgery involved. "We conducted a very professional investigation; we have come up with I feel some probable cause, some evidence," Arpaio said Wednesday. Arpaio said the investigation was done at no cost to taxpayers. "Just let me say the results may be interesting without using the word 'shocked,'" Arpaio said prior to the conference. "I think it will reveal some information no one else has really developed in a professional law enforcement manner." The Cold Case Posse comprises volunteers who are former police officers and lawyers. Arpaio is facing problems of his own, including a federal grand jury probe over alleged abuse of power and Justice Department accusations of racial profiling. Rather than seek cover, Arpaio is moving into the spotlight in a fashion that has helped boost his career as a nationally-known law officer.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 05:39:38 am »

This is actually from 2011, but apparently FOX felt the need to remind people by inserting a link in an unrelated article posted in another thread...

http://endtimesandcurrentevents.freesmfhosting.com/index.php/topic,4493.msg38563.html#msg38563



http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2011/04/even-fox-news-dismisses-birther-conspiracy/37065/

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Shepard Smith on Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

"Fox News can confirm the president of the United States is a citizen of the United States. Period."

--Fox newscaster Shepard Smith, in response to the questions raised by Franklin Graham on Easter about the status of Obama's birth.

"He has produced a birth certificate," Smith began following a clip of the Reverend, his voice raising. "It shows his mother gave birth to him in Hawaii. It is stamped and sealed by the state of Hawaii. It is confirmed."

Watch the full clip here...(the link bounces to all of things, "MediaMatters"! Roll Eyes)

http://mediamatters.org/video/2011/04/25/shepard-smith-fox-news-can-confirm-that-the-pre/179034

Did I mention Shepard Smith is a sellout pitchman for the system? He just plays good cop, like Judge Napolitano. And the FOX/Obama spat is just for show, to stir up the crowd. It's all cow dung.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2013, 08:23:39 am »

Did I mention Shepard Smith is a sellout pitchman for the system? He just plays good cop, like Judge Napolitano. And the FOX/Obama spat is just for show, to stir up the crowd. It's all cow dung.

And the founder of FOX(Rupert Murdoch) is also the same guy whose publishing company put out the NIV bible in 1978, which was pretty much the final death warrant for churches in America.

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 01:43:41 pm »

Coincidence? Hard to say, but it's strange that of 9 people on board, the director of the state's health department is the only fatality. From the sounds of it with those that were rescued, it wasn't a major crash. Maybe more like a hard landing on water. Don't know yet, but sounds...strange.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/us/hawaii-health-director-obama-birth/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Hawaii official who confirmed Obama birth certificate dies in crash

By Josh Levs, CNN
updated 1:26 PM EST, Thu December 12, 2013


(CNN) -- Loretta Fuddy, the Hawaii official who confirmed the authenticity of President Obama's birth record in Hawaii, died Wednesday night in a small-plane crash.

The aircraft, with nine passengers on board, crashed into the ocean about a mile off Kalaupapa, Molokai, on Wednesday, the U.S. Coast Guard said.

The other eight people survived, Petty Officer Stephen Woodbury said. One person swam ashore, a Maui Fire Department helicopter picked up four, and a Coast Guard helicopter rescued three.


Fuddy was director of the state's health department.

"Our hearts are broken," Gov. Neil Abercrombie said in a prepared statement. "Loretta was deeply loved and respected. She was selfless, utterly dedicated and committed to her colleagues in the Department of Health and to the people of Hawaii. Her knowledge was vast; her counsel and advice always given from her heart as much as from her storehouse of experience."

In April 2011, Fuddy confirmed Obama's "long form" birth certificate as part of the state's effort to put to rest questions about whether he was really born in the United States.

"I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii," she said at the time.

A biography at hawaiihealthconnector.com said she was a recognized leader in the public health field and won numerous awards for her work. Her hobbies included singing in a church choir, "enjoying her cat Flint, and spending time with her grand nieces and nephews."
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2013, 02:59:10 pm »

More details. Seems I was correct about the hard landing. The survivors description doesn't explain really how she died...(this story comes from the AP, so take it for what it's worth)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/12/hawaii-health-official-killed-in-plane-crash/%20?intcmp=latestnews

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HONOLULU –  Engine failure caused the crash of a plane in the ocean off Hawaii that killed the director of the state health department, the owner of the airline said Thursday. Eight other people onboard, including the pilot, survived.

Owner Richard Schuman of Makani Kai Air said the pilot did his best to get the single-engine plane down safely and keep the passengers together in the waters off Molokai.

Asked how they survived, he responded: "Will."

"Getting out of the aircraft was important," he said. "It was, extremely, a team effort on many people to take care of them."

The pilot of the 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan was physically OK, said Schuman, who declined to release his name. Little information was available on the conditions of the other passengers.

Maui County officials said the National Transportation Safety Board was investigating the crash that occurred on Wednesday and killed health director Loretta Fuddy.

The plane, bound for Honolulu, went down about a half-mile northwest of Kalaupapa peninsula, Maui Fire Department spokesman Lee Mainaga said in a statement.

Schuman said he did not yet know why the engine failed because he has not been able to see the plane. It crashed soon after takeoff, after getting into the air and making its turn toward Honolulu, he said.

Schuman said the plane had no previous problems.

"There's only one engine on that plane and when it quits on you, you just have to deal with it in that moment," he said.

Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said investigators planned to speak with the pilot and some passengers on Thursday.

The location of the wreckage combined with wind and wave conditions likely means it won't be recoverable, NTSB spokesman Eric Weiss added.

It was Fuddy who released President Barack Obama's birth certificate in 2011 after he and his personal attorney wrote to Fuddy to make public his original birth certificate and relieve the state from the burden that came with repeated inquiries.

Fuddy said then that she had viewed the records that "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

Fuddy, 65, and deputy director Keith Yamamoto were on the flight after an annual visit to Kalaupapa, a remote peninsula on the north side of Molokai (moh-loh-KY'-ee) island where the state exiled leprosy patients until 1969.

Tom Matsuda, interim executive director of Hawaii's health insurance exchange, confirmed the death of Fuddy, who was on the board of the exchange.

"I cannot even begin to convey what a terrible loss this is for Hawaii," Matsuda said in a statement. "I worked closely with Director Fuddy on the Affordable Care Act and came to know and respect her as a passionate advocate for public health and a warm, caring human being."

Gov. Neil Abercrombie said Fuddy was loved and respected.

"Her knowledge was vast, her counsel and advice always given from her heart as much as from her storehouse of experience," Abercrombie said.

Rev. Patrick Killilea, pastor of St. Francis Church at Kalaupapa, recalled how he made sign of the cross on Fuddy's forehead when her body was taken to a care home after the crash.

"I did give her conditional last rites, not knowing exactly what time she passed," he said. "From what I understand, she could have been deceased for a couple of hours."

The priest said Yamamoto shared how he had held Fuddy's hand in the water after the plane went down.

"They were in their life preservers," Killilea said. "At some point she let go, and there was no response."


U.S. Sen. Brian Schatz, a former lieutenant governor under Abercrombie, said Fuddy was capable and caring. His office said Fuddy spent 30 years working in health and human services and had been health director since March 2011.

Most recently, Fuddy led the department as it transitioned its marriage license system to allow gay couples to wed under a new law that took effect this month.

Coast Guard Petty Officer Melissa McKenzie said a Coast Guard helicopter rescued three passengers from the water and Maui fire crews picked up others. One person swam ashore.

McKenzie said the helicopter transported three people to Honolulu for medical treatment, while a Coast Guard plane took five people to Maui.

The leprosy settlement on Kalaupapa is still run by the state health department, though only a few former leprosy patients continue to live there.
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2013, 05:21:56 pm »

Plane crashes aren't exactly common - to be frank, they are rather rare. And it seems like when they do happen, well known people happen to be on them.(ie-Hale Boggs dying in one in Alaska - the same guy who was on the Warren Commission who had questions about it)
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2013, 05:39:22 pm »

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It was Fuddy who released President Barack Obama's birth certificate in 2011 after he and his personal attorney wrote to Fuddy to make public his original birth certificate and relieve the state from the burden that came with repeated inquiries.

Fuddy said then that she had viewed the records that "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

FYI, the "truth" movement, to some extent, has played a part in covering up Obama's birth certificate - mentioned this in another thread, but one of their "leaders" and media guys, Mike Rivero(who used to have a radio show on GCN, same as Alex's station), claimed how his sources in Hawaii told him Obama's HI birth certificate is authentic, and the reason why they are covering this up(supposedly) and making it look like Obama is trying to hide his Kenyan birth certificate is b/c they don't want to let the masses know about his Marxist father.

Of course, Rivero is obviously lying - Rivero is loved by the "truth" movement b/c of his over-ranting against the Jews/Zionism(and how supposedly they run the Illuminati).

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Rev. Patrick Killilea, pastor of St. Francis Church at Kalaupapa, recalled how he made sign of the cross on Fuddy's forehead when her body was taken to a care home after the crash.

"I did give her conditional last rites, not knowing exactly what time she passed," he said. "From what I understand, she could have been deceased for a couple of hours."

The priest said Yamamoto shared how he had held Fuddy's hand in the water after the plane went down.

"They were in their life preservers," Killilea said. "At some point she let go, and there was no response."

I know this is coming from an RCC priest - but THIS is certainly VERY strange!
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 03:45:34 am »

It is getting even more strange, or at least suspect. The landing was basically as I thought. And notice the person who swam a half mile to shore was 70 years old, and his thinking was that everybody was fine.

Was it a heart issue due to the stress of it all? Possible.

http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-survivor-plane-lost-power-then-glided-185711326.html

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By JENNIFER SINCO KELLEHER 13 hours ago

HONOLULU (AP) — After a 70-year-old Hawaii man survived a flight that crash-landed in Hawaii waters, he swam about a half-mile in 6-foot waves to Molokai's rugged shoreline, thinking the eight others aboard the small commercial plane were fine bobbing in their life vests, awaiting rescue.
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C. Phillip Hollstein Jr. said Friday he was surprised to learn later that one of the travelers was killed, Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy. The others on board suffered only minor injuries.

When the lone engine of the small plane failed, the nine people on board stayed calm as the aircraft glided toward the ocean and made a remarkably smooth belly landing, Hollstein recounted.

He said the pilot, Clyde Kawasaki, expertly maneuvered the plane after the engine failed, avoiding what could have been a catastrophic impact on the water.

"He did everything right," Hollstein said. "He set it up for the best crash-landing you could do."

The engine on Makani Kai Air's 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan turboprop cut out less than a minute after takeoff from the island of Molokai on Wednesday afternoon, just as the plane was making a turn toward its destination of Honolulu, Hollstein said.
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Small Plane Crash Off Molkai, Hawaii Kills One

There was a "muffled bang," he said, and "then we were a glider."

"Everyone was real quiet. We hit (the water), and it was all about getting the belts off," Hollstein said. People put on life jackets and remained in the plane until it started sinking, he said.

"There wasn't panic or anything. It was very orderly. It wasn't like any of the movies or the TV shows," Hollstein said.

Hollstein swam for shore when he saw that everyone was out of the plane, guessing it took 90 minutes.

Fuddy, who gained attention after deciding to publicly release President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate in 2011 to rebut claims he was not born in the United States, was clinging to the hand of her deputy, Keith Yamamoto.
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Yamamoto tried to help the 65-year-old relax, according to the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the crash.

"He recounted how he said he helped Loretta into her life jacket, and he held her hand for some time," the priest said. "They were all floating together, and she let go and there was no response from her."

Hollstein said Fuddy was doing fine during the landing and getting out of the airplane.

"Her assistant was really watching her. He was taking care of her," he said.

Results from the autopsy on Fuddy have not been completed, but her cause of death will be made public when the report is finished, Maui County spokesman Rod Antone said. (cont.)
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 08:45:52 am »

Nothing in this world is by coincidence...
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 05:19:16 pm »

Autopsy results: "irregular heart". M'kay.  Roll Eyes

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/14/top-hawaii-health-official-died-irregular-heartbeat-triggered-by-plane-crash/?intcmp=obnetwork

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Hawaii health official died of irregular heartbeat triggered by plane crash, autopsy finds

Published January 14, 2014
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HONOLULU –  Hawaii's health director died of an irregular heartbeat that was triggered when a small plane she was riding in lost power and crash-landed off the Hawaiian island of Molokai, police said Monday.

Loretta Fuddy's irregular heartbeat was the result of stress from the Dec. 11 crash, Maui police announced, revealing the findings of an autopsy conducted two days after the crash. The pilot and seven other passengers on the Makani Kai Air flight survived without major injuries.

Pilot Clyde Kawasaki and a passenger who swam to shore have said Fuddy appeared fine while bobbing in the water after everyone exited the plane and waited for help. Rescuers eventually pulled Kawasaki and the others from the water.

The National Transportation Safety Board's preliminary report on the crash said the single-engine plane floated for about 25 minutes before sinking.

Fuddy, 65, was healthy and didn't have any known heart problems, her brother, Lewis Fuddy, said Monday.

"She wasn't an anxious person," he said. "To be head of the Health Department, you have to have some cool nerves."

Fuddy gained attention in 2011 for her role in releasing President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate to rebut claims he was born outside the U.S.

A spokeswoman said the Health Department had no comment on the cause of death.

Knowing the cause of Fuddy's death doesn't alleviate the grief, her brother said.

"I don't think it's every going to bring any comfort to us," he said. "We felt she had a lot of years to live and only the Lord knows why."

Kawasaki agreed that the cause of death doesn't make him feel better: "The end result is a fatality in a crash."

More questions remain, including why the engine lost power, he said.

One passenger, C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., has said he credits Kawasaki for being the reason nearly everyone survived.

When the plane's lone engine failed, the 60-year-old veteran pilot and passengers stayed calm as the aircraft glided toward the ocean and made a belly landing in rough waters, Hollstein recounted. The engine on the 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan turboprop cut out less than a minute after takeoff from the island of Molokai, just as the plane was making a turn toward its destination of Honolulu.

There was a "muffled bang," Hollstein has said, and "then we were a glider."

He said Kawasaki expertly maneuvered the plane after the engine failed, avoiding what could have been a catastrophic impact on the water. People put on life jackets and remained in the plane until it started sinking.

"There wasn't panic or anything," Hollstein has said. "It was very orderly."

Hollstein, 70, said he swam about a half-mile in 6-foot waves to Molokai's rugged shoreline, thinking the others aboard the plane were fine bobbing in their life vests, awaiting rescue. He said he was surprised to learn later that Fuddy died.

Fuddy was clinging to the hand of her deputy, Keith Yamamoto, who tried to help her relax, according to the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the crash.

Fuddy and Yamamoto were on the flight after an annual visit to Kalaupapa, where the state exiled leprosy patients until 1969. The settlement is still run by the Health Department, though only a few former leprosy patients live there.

Makani Kai Air owner Richard Schuman said he has no idea why the engine failed. The plane had no previous problems, he said.

Kawasaki, who received stitches and was hospitalized after hitting his head on the control panel, said he's still waiting for medical clearances to be able to pilot a plane again. He said he flew in the co-pilot's seat last week for a trip to Molokai with one of the passengers from the crash. They met with some of the people who came to their aid during the aftermath.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2014, 05:57:25 pm »

Looking at everything's that's come in(so far), assuming they wanted her dead, I wonder why. She seemed to be doing their dirty work.

Edit: That should be HER(NOT him). Sorry about that.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2014, 02:03:17 am »

"...him dead"? Who?

She didn't "seem" to, she did do their dirty work. Bold face lied to the public.

Did she really have a heart issue as a result of stress from the plane crash? Could be, as she may have been thinking about how she has acted in life and had a little realization of her mortality and that she is going to have to answer for her actions. But based on her son's comments about her being in a stressful job, I'd say it was not heart related, which suggests something else happened to her in that water.

Consider that the morgue wasn't able test her heart when she was alive, which would show an irregular heart beat. When dead, I have no idea how they could tell she was having an irregular heart beat. The term itself is a very generalized medical term. Many people have such a condition and live normal lives. What is "irregular" anyway? It's a bs diagnosis that has no explanation, so they don't have to explain anything.

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"They were in their life preservers," Killilea said. "At some point she let go, and there was no response."

Her co-worker said she just let go of his hand and "there was no response"? What kind of explanation is that? Suspect at best.

But here's the deal; Obama has always had the ability to release his own birth certificate. The state of Hawaii has been claiming state law won't allow them to release it. Obama can override that law by releasing it himself, but instead he has kept it under wraps. I think we all know why.
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But here's the deal; Obama has always had the ability to release his own birth certificate. The state of Hawaii has been claiming state law won't allow them to release it. Obama can override that law by releasing it himself, but instead he has kept it under wraps. I think we all know why.

Like I mentioned on another thread - even the controlled-opposition "truth" movement is keeping everyone in the dark about this as well. Mike Rivero(one of the "truth" movement leaders and alternative media people), is very respected among this crowd b/c he says how the Jews/Zionism is running the Illuminati(which seems to be the popular belief among this crowd). He claims that his sources in Hawaii tell him that Obama's Hawaii birth certificate is genuine(and indeed a natural born US citizen), but the reason why they're keeping it under wraps is b/c they don't want to let the public know about his Marxist biological father.

This itself is very silly, b/c it's pretty widely know that George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, helped fund Nazi Germany - but did that taint his image one bit(or his father's) when they ran for President?
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2014, 01:08:34 am »

That IS silly, seeing that it's well known about his father, and his atheist mother.

The reason for not disclosing it, if it were real, has been said that it would cause an issue with his college applications showing him a foreign student, which some of that has already come out. If he is US born, then why would he apply to college as a foreign student? Usually, it's just simple fraud to obtain something they normally wouldn't qualify for.

Personally, I don't think he has a real US birth certificate, and I don't think he was born in the US. WAY too much evidence to the contrary. I can't think of any other reason they would be so hard core about hiding that certificate.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2014, 03:35:58 pm »

Judge Rules That The Government Must Respond In Regard To Obama’s Fake SSN

Well, it appears Orly Taitz is finally making small strides when it comes to her mission to reveal the truth about President Obama’s citizenship. After years of attempting to bring the truth to light, the government may be forced to address questions about the President’s Social Security Number.

Apparently, Taitz’ contention that Obama has been using the SSN of a deceased man named Harry Bounel may actually legally require a response from the government, according to Judge Hollander of Maryland.

In a recent press release, Taitz shared the following information:

Judge Hollander in Maryland gives Attorney Orly Taitz 21 days to file a second amended complaint and add allegations in regards to an improper withholding by the Social Security Administration of records of Harry Bounel, whose Social Security Number is being illegally used by Barack Obama. When Taitz filed the complaint, SSA did not respond at all. After the law suit was filed, SSA responded by fraudulently claiming that the records were not found. Taitz responded that this is a fraudulent assertion, since the records were found before and denied to another petition due to privacy concerns, however Social Security has not right to claim privacy as according to their own 120 year rule they have a duty to release the records. The judge stated that the plaintiff Taitz might be correct, however at this time she cannot rule in her favor as her original complaint was filed before SSA responded, so the judge gave Taitz an opportunity to refile a second amended complaint and add new allegations, stating the SSA responded but improperly hidden the records. This is a great development. This all but assures that the judge will order the SSA to release the SS-5, Social Security application of resident of CT, Harrison (Harry) Bounel whose CT SSN 042-68-4425 was stolen by Obama and used in Obama’s 2009 tax returns, which initially were posted on WhiteHouse.gov without proper redaction, without flattening of the file. Taitz will be very careful not to be Breitbarted or Fuddied in the next 21 days.

http://theuspatriot.com/2014/05/28/judge-rules-that-the-government-must-respond-in-regard-to-obamas-fake-ssn/
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