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« on: May 01, 2011, 05:12:46 pm »

THIS WAS KILIKA'S PRIVATE MESSAGE TO ME (ANOTHER MEMBERS NAME HAS BEEN CENSORED)

The Lord rebuke you. How dare you disrespect _______, a very young brother that is seriously reaching out to the brethren for help. And you go and cause disruption by going off-topic and scolding me in public out of total disregard for ______. How dare you! You got a beef with me woman, fine, but don't you dare go around blasting people like that and take away from anothers time of need.

As I said, and apparently you still don't get, a pm was in order considering the thread is from a person that is seeking immmediate help, not just a general discussion about what a person thinks about a verse or something.

God willing, what you should do is apologize profusely to _____, and to the brethren for your disruption. Take the low seat and humble yourself before God.

"Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up." James 4:10 (KJB)

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Kilika misrepresented the truth in his post on this thread. He uses the word of God erroneously, out of context, and to his advantage 3 times in this one situation alone. once to coerse another member to do something that is not required biblically (which was a coersion to confess sins on a public forum using a particular verse). The 2nd time, to coerse me into having to engage him via pm using verses, and the 3rd time by using the biblical distinctions between men and women to get me into subjection to him (hence, referring to me as "woman" rather than by my name). THIS IS DEAD WRONG and disrespectful beyond words. His message has threatening undertones with language like "don't you dare!"

It started with a member on the forum posting a prayer request because he had sinned against the Lord (but he did not reveal what the sin was) Kilika then proceded to tell him that it wasn't enough for him to just say he wanted prayer, that he had to confess (to us on the forum) what the sin was in order to be healed from it using the verse
James 5:16
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

I felt this was a bad interpretation of the verse so before the forum member felt the need to post his sin because of kilikas comment i replied to kilika on the thread essentially saying that: with all do respect, i didnt feel that the forum member had to confess his sin on a public forum as the verse says confess your FAULTS not ur sins one to another. We are only required to confess our sins to God via our one and only Mediator, Jesus. Then at the end of my comment i asked "am I wrong about this?" as a sincere question, leaving myself open to being corrected on my take on the verse. Well Kilika went off on me, rebuking me for correcting him etc and that i should have sent him a pm if i felt the need to admonish him. From my prespective my comment was hardly an admonishment and in comparison to the times he has harshly admonished people on the forum publicly, in my opinion i was being as humble about it as possible and I was not going "off topic" what i was saying was directly related to the thread itself.

when i read his very nasty reply on the thread. i replied back saying that it was going to be the last time i engage him as it is obvious he doesnt like for people to disagree with him and i also said that because he hadn't proven biblically why people are required to confess their sins publically, i will stand by my understanding of it and the fact that people are not required to display their sins on a public forum or anywhere that is public. After he read my reply he sent me an even nastier message privately (message posted above) referring to me as "woman" (implying that i am in subjection to him because he is a man) The bible says "wives be in subjection to your OWN HUSBANDS" I am not in subjection to any man on this forum first cuz noone here is my husband and second this is not a church setting. Kilika is waaaay out of line by behaving this way simply because I clarified a verse for another member and he didnt like it.

In regards to James 5:16 (the verse that i originally gave my take on and how this whole thing got started) it says:
"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

  
Even if the word "faults" could be interchanged with the word "sins" i dont think the verse was talking about confessing your sins on a public forum for a bunch of people whom one does not really know, to read. I don't think that you can take that verse and apply it to the internet, it would be best to find a person (of God) that one confides and trusts in, to reveal personal struggles to in order to find restoration (Hence the second part of the verse that says "The effectual fervent prayer of a RIGHTEOUS man availeth much." how can you know if everybody that is reading ur business on the net is RIGHTEOUS?)
I just didnt want to see anbody be coersed into posting anything he/she didn't feel comfortable posting out of guilt that he/she wasn't following biblical guidlines. I strongly believe that asking for prayer is sufficient enough, if that is what someone wishes to do.

Kilika also said that I was required to PM him my disagreement about the verse using Matt 18:15 "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother."

first of all I am not required as a married woman to PM another man. Second of all, like Traci said, it is not proper. Thirdly, since i was not confronting Kilika on any sin or trespass he had committed but simply just a clarification of a verse, I was not required to speak with him privately.
I am not the first one to give a bible interpretation on the public threads. The members are doing this on a daily basis, yet i am the only one required to do this privately because certain people are above being wrong on anything. It's ridiculous and way out of line.....and THAT is the WHOLE story

This is not a church! this is a public forum/social network where people can come and fellowship not a church setting. So it is a bizzar idea to say that this is a church when anybody and everybody even if you are not chistian or even registered can come and see what is being said here and post anything they would like. It is impossible to regulate a public forum to resemble what the bible says church services should be like for example married women are not protected here by their "head covering" which are their husbands from people who over-step their boundaries regarding how they treat them (as they would be in an orderly church service) *hint hint*.....so to say that we have to follow biblical church guidelines is just incorrect and a misrepresentation of what the bible calls a church setting.
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2 Tim 2:5 "And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully."


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