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« on: May 01, 2011, 09:48:23 pm »

Per CNN and upcoming Obama PC.

 Roll Eyes I had no idea this guy even existed. Huh
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 11:09:21 pm »

Who got the 25 million?
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 11:46:12 pm »

Al Gore will be receiving the money as the energy saved by patriot act fusion center smart grid controls continues to be a benefit to mankind although the threat of terror has passed
Bill Clinton however has lodged an appeal, asking the question, "define fusion".


lol how am i doing?  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 02:21:03 am »

Well now the US should pull out of Afghanistan? They have been there enough already? Time to stop spending money on weapons and time to give money to the poor and hungry around the world?
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 05:52:47 am »

This is the supposed pics that prove he is dead. Can you see what is wrong with them?

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 06:22:03 am »

What is wrong with them?
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 06:27:51 am »

What is wrong with them?

really? well the pic is about 10 years old, and the dead pic on the right is the same as the one on the left, just modified. they are playing this pic on Al Jahzeera and European TV. its a photo shop job.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 09:44:11 am »

as an ex wow hackr i can say that pic looks fake!  Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 10:32:28 am »

Osama bin Laden buried at sea after being killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan
 Osama bin Laden, the long-hunted al-Qaeda leader and chief architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, was killed by U.S. forces Sunday in what officials described as a surgical raid on his luxury hideout in Pakistan.

In a rare Sunday night address from the East Room of the White House, President Obama said a small team of U.S. personnel attacked a compound Sunday in Pakistan’s Abbottabad Valley, where bin Laden had been hiding since at least last summer. During a firefight, the U.S. team killed bin Laden, 54, and took custody of his body in what Obama called “the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al-Qaeda.”

A U.S. official said bin Laden’s body was quickly transported away from Pakistan and “buried at sea,” in part because the U.S. government did not want an accessible gravesite that could become a shrine to bin Laden’s followers. The official declined to identify which body of water the corpse was taken to, or provide further details on how it was transported or handled.

The official said the body was buried “in accordance with Islamic tradition,” meaning within 24 hours of bin Laden’s death. No information was available as to whether Muslim prayers were recited or the body was ritually washed, as is usually required by Islamic law. In general, burial at sea means tipping the body overboard — wrapped, likely, in a shroud — after a brief service.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/osama_bin_laden_is_killed_by_us_forces_in_pakistan/2011/05/01/AFXMZyVF_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage

FORGIVE ME FOR ASKING_I NEVER HEARD THAT ISLAMIC TRADITION WAS TO BURY A BODY AT SEA_WHY SO QUICKLY-SORRY I DONT BUY THIS ONE BIT_SOMETHING VERY FISHY GOING ON !!!!
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Osama bin Laden buried at sea after being killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan
 Osama bin Laden, the long-hunted al-Qaeda leader and chief architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, was killed by U.S. forces Sunday in what officials described as a surgical raid on his luxury hideout in Pakistan.

In a rare Sunday night address from the East Room of the White House, President Obama said a small team of U.S. personnel attacked a compound Sunday in Pakistan’s Abbottabad Valley, where bin Laden had been hiding since at least last summer. During a firefight, the U.S. team killed bin Laden, 54, and took custody of his body in what Obama called “the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al-Qaeda.”

A U.S. official said bin Laden’s body was quickly transported away from Pakistan and “buried at sea,” in part because the U.S. government did not want an accessible gravesite that could become a shrine to bin Laden’s followers. The official declined to identify which body of water the corpse was taken to, or provide further details on how it was transported or handled.

The official said the body was buried “in accordance with Islamic tradition,” meaning within 24 hours of bin Laden’s death. No information was available as to whether Muslim prayers were recited or the body was ritually washed, as is usually required by Islamic law. In general, burial at sea means tipping the body overboard — wrapped, likely, in a shroud — after a brief service.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/osama_bin_laden_is_killed_by_us_forces_in_pakistan/2011/05/01/AFXMZyVF_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage

FORGIVE ME FOR ASKING_I NEVER HEARD THAT ISLAMIC TRADITION WAS TO BURY A BODY AT SEA_WHY SO QUICKLY-SORRY I DONT BUY THIS ONE BIT_SOMETHING VERY FISHY GOING ON !!!!

they said they didnt want a Muslim shrine for him.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 10:38:33 am »

Do you buy that?
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 10:43:00 am »

Do you buy that?

no.  Cheesy its just another distraction.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 10:56:33 am »

I think this one will back fire-my little kids were laughing as the pictures of the photo-shop death are all over face book and questions being asked about Obama being a master con artist...im talking little kids!!!
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 11:20:08 am »

my boss in the military wanted to be buried at sea, he was the one who talked incessantly about nicola tesla too and kind of inadvertently woke me up to some things.
he dind't even understand what he was implying but i did lol
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 01:02:58 pm »

Capturing bin Laden 'would unleash hell'
Editor's Note: The article below was released April 26th

 
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The mastermind of the 9/11 attacks warned that al-Qaeda has hidden a nuclear bomb in Europe which will unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" if Osama bin Laden is captured, leaked files revealed.


The terror group also planned to make a 9/11 style attack on London's Heathrow airport by crashing a hijacked airliner into one of the terminals, the files showed.


Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told Guantanamo Bay interrogators the terror group would detonate the nuclear device if the al-Qaeda chief was captured or killed, according to the classified files released by the WikiLeaks website.


Sheikh Mohammed, the self-professed mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, has been held at Guantanamo since 2006 and is to be tried in a military court at the US naval base on Cuba over the attacks.


His nuclear threat was revealed in Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper, one of several media outlets which have published the classified assessments of detainees at Guantanamo.
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2011, 01:56:05 pm »

Osama bin Laden’s Second Death
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If today were April 1 and not May 2, we could dismiss as an April fool’s joke this morning’s headline that Osama bin Laden was killed in a firefight in Pakistan and quickly buried at sea. As it is, we must take it as more evidence that the US government has unlimited belief in the gullibility of Americans.

Think about it. What are the chances that a person allegedly suffering from kidney disease and requiring dialysis and, in addition, afflicted with diabetes and low blood pressure, survived in mountain hideaways for a decade? If bin Laden was able to acquire dialysis equipment and medical care that his condition required, would not the shipment of dialysis equipment point to his location? Why did it take ten years to find him?

 
Consider also the claims, repeated by a triumphalist US media celebrating bin Laden’s death, that "bin Laden used his millions to bankroll terrorist training camps in Sudan, the Philippines, and Afghanistan, sending ‘holy warriors’ to foment revolution and fight with fundamentalist Muslim forces across North Africa, in Chechnya, Tajikistan and Bosnia." That’s a lot of activity for mere millions to bankroll (perhaps the US should have put him in charge of the Pentagon), but the main question is: how was bin Laden able to move his money about? What banking system was helping him? The US government succeeds in seizing the assets of people and of entire countries, Libya being the most recent. Why not bin Laden’s? Was he carrying around with him $100 million dollars in gold coins and sending emissaries to distribute payments to his far-flung operations?

This morning’s headline has the odor of a staged event. The smell reeks from the triumphalist news reports loaded with exaggerations, from celebrants waving flags and chanting "USA USA." Could something else be going on?

No doubt President Obama is in desperate need of a victory. He committed the fool’s error of restarting the war in Afghanistan, and now after a decade of fighting the US faces stalemate, if not defeat. The wars of the Bush/Obama regimes have bankrupted the US, leaving huge deficits and a declining dollar in their wake. And re-election time is approaching.

The various lies and deceptions, such as "weapons of mass destruction," of the last several administrations had terrible consequences for the US and the world. But not all deceptions are the same. Remember, the entire reason for invading Afghanistan in the first place was to get bin Laden. Now that President Obama has declared bin Laden to have been shot in the head by US special forces operating in an independent country and buried at sea, there is no reason for continuing the war.

Perhaps the precipitous decline in the US dollar in foreign exchange markets has forced some real budget reductions, which can only come from stopping the open-ended wars. Until the decline of the dollar reached the breaking point, Osama bin Laden, who many experts believe to have been dead for years, was a useful bogeyman to use to feed the profits of the US military/security complex.

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Paul Craig Roberts [send him mail], a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, has been reporting shocking cases of prosecutorial abuse for two decades. A new edition of his book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions, co-authored with Lawrence Stratton, a documented account of how Americans lost the protection of law, has been released by Random House.

Copyright © 2011 Paul Craig Roberts

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Osama bin Laden dead: Barack Obama given re-election boost
Amid continued economic gloom and opinion poll ratings hovering below 50 per cent, the surgical operation that killed Osama bin Laden gives President Barack Obama a significant boost as he begins his 2012 re-election campaign.
 
President Barack Obama speaks about the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden Photo: AP
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The moment when Mr Obama stepped into the East Room of the White House to announce to the world the demise of bin Laden was clearly one that he savoured.

Again and again, the United States commander-in-chief emphasised his personal role in authorising the operation and directing what had taken place. Like any other politician in his position, he was anxious to take credit for a major success.

The announcement came at the end of a particularly silly period in American politics in which the real estate mogul, Donald Trump, pushed the crackpot theory that Mr Obama was not born in the US, prompting the president to release his birth certificate.

White House advisers were doubtless pleased with the contrast between the sober announcement of a historic event given by Mr Obama and the theatrical and often frivolous pronouncements of his currently most prominent opponent.

When he ordered the US Navy SEAL raid on the Abbottabad compound, Mr Obama knew that he could pay a heavy political price for failure.

In March he had decided to forego a B2 stealth bomber raid because of the risk of killing civilians and of never confirming the al-Qaeda leader's death. The loss of American lives in Abbotabad and another escape by bin Laden would have led to accusations of reckless misjudgement and prevarication.

The fate of Jimmy Carter, who oversaw a botched mission to rescue the Iran hostages in April 1980 and was kicked out of office by the voters some six months later must have weighed heavily on Mr Obama's mind.

Mr Obama has been buffeted by concerns over rising petrol prices and his handling of the faltering economy. His dramatic announcement about bin Laden's death will switch the US public's attention to his major foreign policy success and help burnish an image of strength.

As he spoke, Mr Obama opted for a discursive, at times almost flowery description of "hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky" and "black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon" on 9/11 before giving Americans the details they were desperate to hear.

But when the president used the words "justice has been done", he echoed what President George W. Bush had said to him during a telephone call earlier in the day and struck a note that appealed to all Americans.

Republicans, who have repeatedly accused Mr Obama of weakness and dithering in foreign policy matters, universally praised him yesterday in much the same way as Democrats rallied around Mr Bush after 9/11.

Mike Murphy, a senior Republican operative and former John McCain aide, tweeted that "Politics are great for Obama", echoing the widespread assessment that the president's chances of re-election had received a significant boost.

Americans, however, have short memories and the 2012 election is more than 18 months away. After the 1991 Gulf War, President George Bush Snr's approval ratings were sky high but 18 months later he was trounced at the polls by Bill Clinton.

Ultimately, the 2012 election will probably be decided on the state of the economy, just as it was in 1992.
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She was bumped off just after making this vid
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 02:55:45 pm »

The Death of bin Ladenism
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Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

Even if he is still in the world, bin Ladenism has left for good. Mr. bin Laden was the public face of a brand of politics that committed suicide in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of innocent people in the process.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/11TAHE.html?ex=1089432000&en=373a282aeff2716a&ei=5070&todaysheadlines

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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 03:02:04 pm »

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Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."

Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."

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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2011, 12:41:16 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfYeRycrjJM&feature=player_embedded#at=48

The picture of the dead bin laden is nothing more than a pentagon photoshop hoax!! its a combination of a picture of the bottom half of the real bin ladens face, and it has been merged with that of a dead man (id unknown) You can clearly see that the two pictures have been put together. i just hope the photoshop experts out there can come up with even better evidence, just like we seen with obamas birth certificate. I think the pentagons "photoshop" guy should be sacked lol or maybe is one of obamas creepy daughters messing about on the whitehouse pc. And with Bin Laden already buried at sea, we will never know what went on in this alleged operation. All we know is that it didnt go down quite how they said. But why now?
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2011, 12:42:50 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKCMFwonXKM&feature=share

MORE EVIDENCE of FAKED photoshopped image of Osama Bin Laden
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2011, 12:45:06 am »

Now that Osama's dead body is being trotted out to boost Obama's approval ratings, er, because he was just killed in an air strike or some nonsense, it's worth taking a look back at the researchers who concluded Osama bin Laden died years ago. David Ray Griffin wrote an entire book about it. Mike Rivero also wrote the article "Osama bin Laden: A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government," where he cited numerous heads of state, CIA agents, intelligence officials, etc. who all concluded Osama has been dead for years.

Here's a run down of some of the evidence detailed in David Ray Griffin's book from an article he wrote in October, 2009.:
Objective Evidence that Bin Laden is Dead

The objective evidence includes the following facts:

First, up until mid-December 13, 2001, the CIA had regularly been intercepting messages between bin Laden and his people. At that time, however, the messages suddenly stopped, and the CIA has never again intercepted a message.

Second, on December 26, 2001, a leading Pakistani newspaper published a story reporting that bin Laden had died in mid-December, adding:
“A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement . . . stated . . . that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial.”
Third, bin Laden had kidney disease. He had been treated for it in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, at which time he reportedly ordered two dialysis machines to take home. If you have ever wondered what bin Laden was doing the night before the 9/11 attacks, CBS News reported that he was being given kidney dialysis treatment in a hospital in Pakistan. And in January of 2001, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said – based on a video of bin Laden that had been made in either late November or early December of 2001 – that he appeared to be in the last stages of kidney failure.

Fourth, In July of 2002, CNN reported that bin Laden’s bodyguards had been captured in February of that year, adding: “Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most-wanted man in the world is dead.”
Fifth, the United States has since 2001 offered a $25 million reward for any information leading to the capture or killing of bin Laden. But this reward offer has produced no such information, even though Pakistan has many desperately poor people, only about half of whom have been supportive of bin Laden.

Testimonial Evidence that Bin Laden Is Dead

In addition to this objective evidence, we had considerable testimony in 2002, from people in position to know, that bin Laden was dead, or probably so. These people included:

• President Musharraf of Pakistan;

• Dale Watson, the head of the FBI’s counterterrorism unit;

• Oliver North, who said: “I'm certain that Osama is dead. . . And so are all the other guys I stay in touch with”;

• President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan;

• Sources within Israeli intelligence, who said that any new messages from bin Laden were “probably fabrications”;

• Sources within Pakistani intelligence, who “confirmed the death of . . . Osama Bin Laden” and “attributed the reasons behind Washington's hiding news on the death of Osama Bin Laden to the desire of the hawks of the American administration to use the issue of al-Qaida and international terrorism to invade Iraq.”
For this reason, perhaps, the stories about the demise of bin Laden largely came to an end in the latter part of 2002, when the United States was gearing up for its attack on Iraq. From then until now, there have been few such stories.

Recently, however, two former intelligence officers have spoken out. In October 2008, former CIA case officer Robert Baer suggested in passing during an interview on National Public Radio that bin Laden was no longer among the living. When Baer was asked about this, he said: “Of course he’s dead.”

In March of 2009, former Foreign Service officer Angelo Codevilla published an essay in the American Spectator entitled “Osama bin Elvis.” Explaining his title, Codevilla wrote: “Seven years after Osama bin Laden's last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more evidence for Elvis's presence among us than for his.”

This is an excellent article, with only one serious flaw. In 2007, Benazir Bhutto, being interviewed by David Frost, referred to Omar Sheikh as “the man who murdered Osama bin Laden.” Codevilla cited this statement as further evidence that bin Laden is dead. But Bhutto had simply misspoken: She had meant to say “the man who murdered Daniel Pearl,” which is the standard way of referring to Omar Sheikh. That she misspoke was shown the next day, when she told CNN: “I don’t think General Musharaf personally knows where Osama bin Laden is.” Ten days later, speaking to NPR, she reported having asked a policeman assigned to guard her house: “Shouldn’t you be looking for Osama bin Laden?” This flaw aside, Codevilla’s article provides good support for his claim that the widespread belief in bin Laden’s continued existence is not backed up by evidence.
The evidence Osama has been dead for years is overwhelming, people have been predicting for years his dead body was going to be trotted out as part of some PR stunt. Absent the presentation of some overwhelmingly compelling evidence to the contrary, it looks like that's what we're witnessing right now.

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2011, 10:03:11 am »

DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show
Scientists in Israel have demonstrated that it is possible to fabricate DNA evidence, undermining the credibility of what has been considered the gold standard of proof in criminal cases.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/science/18dna.html

FAKE DNA FABRICATION OF DNA ISRAEL SCIENTISTS FALSE


Israeli Scientists Show How to Fake DNA Evidence
DNA could be faked by criminals, new study claims

New scientific research has shown that it is possible to fake DNA evidence, raising fears that people could “engineer crime scenes”.
http://laudyms.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/israeli-scientists-show-how-to-fake-dna-evidence/

Report: Israeli Scientists Discover Way to Counterfeit DNA
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Did DNA Finger bin Laden?

His face is one of the most recognizable in the world, but in the end, could it have been DNA fingerprinting that proved to U.S. officials that they had finally nailed Osama bin Laden?

Maybe – but the Obama administration had better be saving some evidence.

U.S. officials have told various news sources that CIA facial-recognition technology was used to identify bin Laden, and that his wife – apparently also killed in the attack – called him by name during the firefight that ended his life.

But they say that DNA was the final piece of evidence.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee told the AP that more than one DNA sample was used to identify bin Laden.

One problem – whose DNA did they compare it to?

According to several reports, U.S. intelligence experts have been collecting DNA from Osama’s many relatives for years. Hospital officials in Boston have been unable to confirm reports that one source of DNA was bin Laden’s half-sister, who allegedly died of brain cancer at a Harvard-affiliated hospital.

Bin Laden had plenty of half-brothers and half-sisters to offer DNA samples. He was the 17th child of Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, who had 54 children with 22 wives. Bin Laden’s father died when he was 10.

The FBI has lots of ways to use DNA fingerprinting to identify culprits.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/did-dna-finger-bin-laden--20110502

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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2011, 10:26:47 am »

Did we mess up burying Osama Bin Laden at sea  Huh - That's what they say on Yahoo News...

Amid the justified celebrations over the killing of Osama bin Laden, an awkward question is starting to rear its head: Did U.S. policymakers err in burying the al Qaeda leader at sea?

Already, the decision has provoked criticism from some Islamic scholars, who say a maritime burial isn't in keeping with Muslim law. And there are signs that the move could help fuel skepticism, especially among President Obama's critics, about whether bin Laden was really killed at all.

The Pentagon has said the body was treated in accordance with traditional Islamic procedures--including washing the corpse--before it was placed in the waters of the northern Arabian Sea.

U.S. officials have said they wanted to avoid the al Qaeda leader's grave site becoming a shrine for his followers. They've also said it would have been difficult to find a foreign country willing to accept bin Laden's remains, especially in so short a time: Islamic tradition and practice call for the body of the deceased to be buried within 24 hours of death.

But several Muslim authorities said today that the sea burial in fact violated Muslim tradition--and warned that it could help trigger calls for revenge from militant Muslims.

The sea burial "runs contrary to the principles of Islamic laws, religious values and humanitarian customs," Sheik Ahmed al-Tayeb, the grand Imam of Cairo's al-Azhar mosque, told the AP.

And Mohammed al-Qubaisi, Dubai's grand mufti, echoed that view. "If the family does not want him, it's really simple in Islam: You dig up a grave anywhere, even on a remote island, you say the prayers and that's it."

He added: "Sea burials are permissible for Muslims in extraordinary circumstances," he added. "This is not one of them."

And Abdul-Sattar al-Janabi, who preaches at Baghdad's Abu Hanifa mosque declared: "It is not acceptable, and it is almost a crime to throw the body of a Muslim man into the sea," adding that the action "might provoke some Muslims."

But the religious verdict may not be quite that open and shut. Imam Shamsi Ali, of the Islamic Cultural Center of New York, told The Lookout that in emergency circumstances, any Islamic law can be overlooked. "For example, you're not allowed to eat pork," he said, but added that if you were starving to death, it would be considered acceptable. Ali said that because the United States appears to have been unable to find a country to take bin Laden's body within 24 hours, this might have qualified as such an emergency.

Islamic practices aside, the decision is already triggering conspiracy theories that cast doubt on whether bin Laden is truly dead--even though DNA testing is said to have confirmed with virtual certainty that the al Qaeda leader was indeed killed. An assertion by Pakistan's Taliban that bin Laden is still living was picked up on several users of the conservative website FreeRepublic.com. In addition, one writer on the Andrew Breitbart website Big Peace called for bin Laden's body to be"digitally scanned" so that Americans could verify his death for themselves. On Twitter, Emily Miller, an editor at the conservative Washington Times, demanded a photo of the body as "proof."

Skepticism could only increase in some quarters if the Obama administration declines to release photos of bin Laden's body.  No decision has yet been made on that question, according to White House counter-terror adviser John Brennan, who said this afternoon that doing so could jeopardize future operations.

(In an image taken from a video broadcast, Dec. 24, 1998, Osama bin Laden spoke during an interview at an undisclosed location in Afghanistan.: ABC News/AP)
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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2011, 11:08:17 am »

new pic, http://www.zerohedge.com/article/new-bin-laden-death-photo-released
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2011, 11:29:45 am »

Burial at sea could have very symbolic meanings.
I think both of the madrid earthquake scenarios in USA etc, NY LA and Seattle, etc.
I also think of the tsunami risk for israel, they are between two seas and on a river... lol

statue of liberty = sun worship, babel, 7 heads in one! she reaches toward heaven, looks to the East at least 3 times a day (irony), watched in satisfaction as the Twin Towers (castor/pollux/gemini) fell, and sits on many waters (not even really in NY territory but NJ lol). Sure she wants your tired, poor, downtrodden masses -- there is grain to harvest and we need slaves to work the land. Freedom isn't free and food certainly isn't -- a better name by far would have been LADY LABOR. Because if we even get to keep our country, I think the NWO will force us to be the world's bread bowl, plans predate kennedy for that.

In Daniel it says (of israel) the end will come to the holy city "like a flood". not sure if that is talking numbers of men in the army OR weather warfare in form of EQ/tsunami.
God himself is under covenant not to destroy the earth with water again, so please watch closely. that could be our clue from Him about weather manipulation.
also it speaks of war in Jerusalem, possibly defiling the holy places with uranium dust, making it unfit for use. just like the jewish dairies in the most radiated places are shutting down, the abomination which brings desolation -- although some think it's SUN WORSHIP and they would be right (it's what mel gibson tried to show us with apolcalypto) -- another aspect of sun worship is nuclear physics (the cultlike CERN approach seems more like a systematized religion -- their own policies and practices are what's holding back advance). BLACK SUN. When we have the black sun we "won't need light" according to them. But man cannot live on bread alone, he needs God's word and good sunlight and food.



in the past they put the people in a position to believe that the sun had to be sated with human blood or it would not give its light.
what if modern rulers pushed this idea, that death clears clouds away or makes LHCs make more energy?
We have been there before and worse, humans are easily fooled.

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There is a persistent belief in alchemic and hermetic tradition in the existence of two suns: a hidden one of pure "philosophical gold," consisting of the essential Fire conjoined with aether, and the apparent one of profane "material gold." The "dark, consuming fire" of the material sun leads to its being called the "Dark" or "Black Sun."

It is possible that these teachings influenced Philolaus in the development of his groundbreaking theory of the Central Fire. This is supported by the fact that the various teachings regarding multiple suns are sometimes attributed to Empedocles, who was a contemporary of Philolaus, and his senior. However, this connection may be coincidental, and it is likely that the attribution of these ideas to Empedocles stems from an imperfect understanding of his cosmology in regard to the reflective nature of the Sun.


"black hole sun, won't you come, and wash away the rain"
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Regarding "Black Hole Sun", Cornell stated, "It's just sort of a surreal dreamscape, a weird, play-with-the-title kind of song."[5] He also said that "lyrically it's probably the closest to me just playing with words for words' sake, of anything I've written. I guess it worked for a lot of people who heard it, but I have no idea how you'd begin to take that one literally."[6] In another interview he elaborated further, stating, "It's funny because hits are usually sort of congruent, sort of an identifiable lyric idea, and that song pretty much had none. The chorus lyric is kind of beautiful and easy to remember. Other than that, I sure didn't have an understanding of it after I wrote it. I was just sucked in by the music and I was painting a picture with the lyrics. There was no real idea to get across."[4] Commenting upon how the song was misinterpreted as being positive, Cornell said, "No one seems to get this, but "Black Hole Sun" is sad. But because the melody is really pretty, everyone thinks it's almost chipper, which is ridiculous."[7] When asked about the line, "Times are gone for honest men," Cornell said:

    It's really difficult for a person to create their own life and their own freedom. It's going to become more and more difficult, and it's going to create more and more disillusioned people who become dishonest and angry and are willing to **** the next guy to get what they want. There's so much stepping on the backs of other people in our profession. We've been so lucky that we've never had to do that. Part of it was because of our own tenacity, and part of it was because we were lucky.[8]

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The "Black Sun" is often associated with the mystic-esoteric aspects of National Socialism. Origin of a phantastic post war "SS mysticism" which refers to the "Black Sun" is a right-wing esoteric circle in Vienna in the early 1950s.[30]

The former SS member Wilhelm Landig of the Vienna Circle (esoteric) "coined the idea of the Black Sun, a substitute swastika and mystical source of energy capable of regenerating the Aryan race"[31]

Rudolf J. Mund (also a former SS member and later also member of the Vienna Circle) discusses a relationship of the Black Sun with alchemy. The visible sun is described as a symbol of an invisible anti-sun: "Everything that can be comprehended by human senses is material, the shadow of the invisible spiritual light. The material fire is - seen in this way - also just the shadow of the spiritual fire."[32]

I think SUN WORSHIP
nuclear science
free energy suppression (there will likely be at least one small but powerful country running on alternative power and refusing to reveal the tech - switzerland?)


YOU can SEE how the things just above would provide all the reason the NWO needs for people to "worship".
you don't get any electricity to your home if you don't have the Mark of the Beast, you can't play your Xbox or facebook, or buy a McBurger.
And people will care about those things enough to give away their immortal souls.

we dont even know what we give away, we haven't entered the fullness of our inheritance....

don't ever give yourself to Satan of your own accord, there are no words for the fear and depression and feelings of wasted time afterwards.
but unless the falling away happens (happened?), Christ cannot come back. the conditions have to be right -- until then we must be strong and clean for the Holy Spirit.

I am not ready.
some people do fasting and prayer.
IMO that is one of the things America needs badly, more than greenhouses and bible study for homeless, is sackcloth and ashes time.
major sackcloth and ashes.
it's what i keep thinking.
we gave the children of Ishmael ashes and cinders to eat,
what will the Lord of Hosts do to us now?

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Num 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

If elenin/nibiru is a factor, "they" will tell us that sacrifice is needed in order to "appease" it.
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Revelation 13
 1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

 2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

 4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

 5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

 7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2011, 01:33:11 pm »

White House modifies Osama bin Laden account

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The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.

Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html#ixzz1LJdL5SML
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2011, 11:16:45 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKDYZfEbEow&feature=related

People dont be deceived! WAKE UP AMERICA! there was no raid to kill bin laden! if there were why didn't we kill him when he was in our military hospital in 2003? Israel, Egypt and Pakistan all reported his death years before us! Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto (who was assassinated in 2007) mentioned in an address that he was murdered by Omar Skeikh!
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