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Green guru James Lovelock was right. He warned last week that “the green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion.”
 
Now at the U.N. Earth Summit, even the image of Christ has been made a forcible convert to the eco-faith, as the city of Rio is bathing the iconic statue of Christ the Redeemer (Christo Redentor) in green light:



This comes on the heels of a Rio+20 side summit in Belo Horizonte, Brazil, where Naomi Tsur, Jerusalem’s deputy mayor for planning and environment, led a discussion about how holy sites around the world can be used to indoctrinate pilgrims visiting venerated places like Bethlehem, Calvary, and the burial site of King David.
 
The workshop on “Green Pilgrim Cities” took place at the World Congress of the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI), the group responsible for implementing the U.N.’s “Agenda 21” sustainable-development plans at the local level.
 
The left-wing National Religious Partnership for the Environment has been working for years in the U.S. to make green tenets a staple of religious life in America. A bizarre eco-version of the Ark of the Covenant is making its way around the globe. And a “Green Bible” is now available at your local Christian bookstore.
 
So maybe it won’t be long before recycling, carbon-footprint reductions, and riding bicycles to work become the new religious duties of the faithful.
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A bizarre eco-version of the Ark of the Covenant is making its way around the globe. [/color][/b].
 

The Earth Charter and the Ark of the Gaia Covenant

For those who may have dismissed the notion of a UN Agenda for a New World Religion used to usher in sweeping anti-constitutional environmental agreements, I offer the following.

“The real goal of the Earth Charter is that it will in fact become like the Ten Commandments.”
— Maurice Strong

“Do not do unto the environment of others what you do not want done to your own environment....My hope is that this charter will be a kind of Ten Commandments, a 'Sermon on the Mount', that provides a guide for human behavior toward the environment in the next century.”
— Mikhail Gorbachev, The Los Angeles Times, May 8, 1997
 
On September the 9th, 2001 a celebration of the Earth Charter was held at Shelburne Farms Vermont for the unveiling of the Earth Charter's final resting place. This "Ark of Hope" will be presented to the United Nations along with its contents in June of 2002. It is hoped that the United Nations will endorse the Earth Charter document on this occasion; the tenth anniversary of the UNCED Earth Summit in Rio.

Placed within the Ark, along with the Earth Charter, were various items called "Temenos Books" and "Temenos Earth Masks." Temenos is a concept adopted by Carl Jung to denote a magic circle, a sacred space where special rules and energies apply. Some of the Temenos Books were created within this magic circle by children, who filled them with visual affirmations for Mother Earth. Fashioned with the "earth elements", the Temenos Earth Masks were also worn and created by children.

Maurice Strong and the "Agenda"
In 1992 Maurice Strong was the Secretary General of the historic United Nations (UNCED) Earth conference in Rio. This gathering featured an international cast of powerful figures in the environmental movement, government, business, and entertainment. Maurice Strong's wife Hannah, was involved in the NGO alternative meeting at the Summit called Global Forum '92. The Dalai Lama opened the meeting and, according to author Gary Kah, to ensure the success of the forum, Hanne Strong held a three-week vigil with Wisdomkeepers, a group of "global transformationalists." Through round-the-clock sacred fire, drumbeat, and meditation, the group helped hold the "energy pattern" for the duration of the summit.

It was hoped that an Earth Charter would be the result of this event. This was not the case, however an international agreement was adopted – Agenda 21 – which laid down the international "sustainable development" necessary to form a future Earth Charter agreement. Maurice Strong hinted at the overtly pagan agenda proposed for a future Earth Charter, when in his opening address to the Rio Conference delegates he said, "It is the responsibility of each human being today to choose between the force of darkness and the force of light." [note: Alice Bailey, and Blavatsky before her, used these terms often. Their writings state that the 'force of darkness' are those who adhere to the 'out-dated' Judeo-Christian faith; those who continue along their 'separative' paths of the one true God. The 'force of light' (Lucifer), in their view, is the inclusive new age doctrine of a pagan pantheistic New World Religion. In the New Age of Aquarius there will be no room for the 'force of darkness' and 'separativeness'.] "We must therefore transform our attitudes and adopt a renewed respect for the SUPERIOR LAWS OF DIVINE NATURE," Strong finished with unanimous applause from the crowd.

Despite the disappointing setback of no official agreement toward a "peoples Earth Charter", Maurice Strong forged ahead, with Rockefeller backing, to form his Earth Council organization for the express purpose of helping governments implement UNCED's sustainable development which Agenda 21 had outlined. Agenda 21 was perhaps the biggest step taken to facilitate any future "enforcement" of a patently pagan Earth Charter. According to Strong "the Charter will stand on it's own. It will be in effect, to use an Anglo-Saxon term, the Magna Carta of the people around the Earth. But, it will also, we hope, lead to action by the governments through the United Nations."

ARK OF OUR DEMISE?
“Cosmos is my God. Nature is my God.”

—Mikhail Gorbachev, on the PBS Charlie Rose Show, Oct. 23, 1996
“A post-Christian belief system is taking over – one that sees the earth as a living being mythologically, as Gaia, Earth Mother – with mankind as her consciousness... Such worship of the universe is properly called cosmolatry.”

—Donna Steichen, Ungodly Rage, p. 237



Inside this ' Ark of Hope' the Earth Charter is handwritten on papyrus paper, and ready for presentation to the United Nations; the Ark along with it's Gaia "Ten Commandments" – a new covenant to which every nation must adhere. Each panel represents one of the five traditional elements of pagan worship: Water, Fire, Earth, Air and Spirit. According to the Ark of Hope website, the Ark's dimensions are 49" X 32" X 32" and it was crafted out of a single Sycamore plank. The obvious meaning behind the Ark of Hope is to mock God's own Ten Commandments and the Ark of the Covenant. In this context the choice of Sycamore wood for the Ark of Hope's construction is a revealing one. The Sycamore tree was sacred to most all the pagan religions in the middle east during biblical times, and in Egypt especially: To the Egyptians the Sycamore was a healing tree; The tomb of Osiris was built in Sycamore wood, and shaded by Sycamore trees; Burial in Sycamore coffins was a symbolic return into the womb of the mother goddess; The deceased hoped to live in the Sycamore tree. In the book of the dead there are examples of a letter the deceased would write to the Goddess of the Tree, containing a prayer so that she would provide water and air. 1

The New Age and the Radical-Left 'Enlightenment'
The "For Love of Earth" day-long celebrations at Shelburne Farms Vermont began with an early morning pilgrimage during which 2000 or so participants, led by Satish Kumar, walked to the "great barn" where they were greeted by the sounds of the "Sun Song" played by musician Paul Winter. The Pagan festivities continued with the words of Dr. Jane Goodall, Satish Kumar and organizer Dr. Steven C. Rockefeller. The Earth worshippers were treated to dance, music and paintings of several Vermont artists, after which they joined hands and offered an "Earth prayer" of "reverence" and "commitment" to Mother Earth and the "Ark of Hope".

Satish Kumar, who led the early morning pilgrimage at Shelburne Farms, is an influencial advocate of Gaia. Kumar says that "contemporary thinkers of the green movement are collectively developing an ecological world-view." The Earth Charter is the green movement's crowning achievement toward this holistic world-view, and the practical means by which all of us will soon be held accountable to "Divine Nature". According to Satish Kumar,2 this pagan view has five ingredients: Gaia (James Lovelock), Deep Ecology (Arne Naess), Permaculture (Bill Mollison), Bioregionalism (Gary Snyder et al.), and Creation Spirituality (Matthew Fox). "Creation Spirituality" is what had, undoubtedly, taken place at the Shelburne Farms Earth Charter celebrations. In the words of Steven W. Mosher, president of Population Research Institute, "Gaia is the New Age term for Mother Earth. The New Age believers hold that the earth is a sentient super-being, kind of goddess, deserving of worship and, some say, human sacrifice. Compared to Gaia worship, the simple animism of primitive cultures is wholesome."

Musician Paul Winter also has deep roots within the green movement and "creation spirituality." He has performed concerts at the Cathedral St. John the Divine in New York City, on the solstice and equinox, for well over twenty years. These pagan festivals, in a supposedly christian church nonetheless, are generously sponsored by the Rockefeller Foundation and a new age organization called the Lindisfarne Institute – the latter of which has its headquarters in the Cathedral. Maurice Strong is also a member of Lindisfarne (publishers of G-A-I-A, a way of knowing) along with Gaia theory biologist James Lovelock, and admitted Luciferian David Spangler, among others. Paul Winters' most recent concert at St. John the Divine was for the annual Earth Mass, on 7 October. 3 The fact that this annual October 7th Earth Mass coincides with the hindu Holy Day of Dassehra (worship of the Great Divine Mother) cannot be a coincidence. Winter and bandmates play a tune called Missa Gaia as part of the Feast of St. Francis. The Pope once attended the Feast of St. Francis at St. John the Divine in 1986. Stressing the unity of all the world's religions, John Paul II happily shared the platform with a Tibetan Lama, a Hindu swami, a Native American medicine man, and a Maori high priest.

The New American Insider Report of January 23, 1995 4 writes that the historic Episcopal Cathedral of Saint John the Divine "has long been a center of New Age and radical-left 'enlightenment' and high-brow Establishment 'culture'." Author Gary Kah reports, in his well-documented book The New World Religion, that the Cathedral of St. John the Divine displays "a female Christ on the cross, complete with shapely hips and full breasts." Also in the same issue of The New American there is a list of donors to the Cathedral: Mr. and Ms. Steven Rockefeller is among them, along with Mr. Robert de Rothschild; David Rockefeller Jr.; Mrs. Mary C. Rockefeller; Mr. and Mrs. Laurance Spellman Rockefeller; Rockefeller Center Properties Inc.; The Rockefeller Group Inc. and many elite-of-the-elite organizations such as J.P. Morgan & Co.; Chase Manhattan Bank; Goldman, Sachs & Co.; Hearst Corporation; CBS, Inc. and even, mysteriously, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), among others.

Earth Charter Commission Co-Chairs
The Earth Charter Initiative was launched in 1994 by Maurice Strong, his newly formed Earth Council and Mikhail Gorbachev, acting in his capacity as president of Green Cross International. In 1997, the Earth Council and Green Cross International formed an Earth Charter Commission to give oversight to the process.

1.Kamla Chowdhry, India
2.Mikhail Gorbachev, Russia
3.Mercedes Sosa, Argentina
4.Maurice Strong, Canada
5.Amadou Toumani Toure, Mali
6.A.T. Anyaratne, Sri Lanka
7.Princess Basma Bint Talai, Jordan
8.Leonardo Boff, Brazil
9.Pierre Calame, France
10.Severn Cullis-Suzuki, Canada
11.Wakako Hironaka, Japan
12.John Hoyt, U.S.A.
13.Ruud Lubbers, The Netherlands
14.Wangari Maathai, Kenya
15.Elizabeth May, Canada
16.Federico Mayor, Spain
17.Shridath Ramphal, Guyana
18.Henriette Rasmussen, Greenland
19.Steven Rockefeller, U.S.
20.Mohamed Sahoun, Algeria
21.Awraham Soetendorp, The Netherlands
22.Pauline Tangiora, New Zealand
23.Erna Witoelar, Indonesia

Sri Chinmoy

Indian Mystic, and outspoken advocate of the United Nations' "spiritual mission."

UN Meditation Room

The U.N. Meditation Room is built in the shape of a truncated pyramid. In the center is an altar made out of magnetite, the largest natural piece of magnetite ever mined. For meditation purposes it is probably the most ideal spot on the planet, since the magnetite altar has its foundation straight down, built into the bedrock of the land below; tapping into the energies of the earth itself. The mysterious mural also helps the worshippers tune into esoteric energies, and helps facilitate a state of altered consciousness.

William Cooper on the UN Meditation Room.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=76718.msg920804#msg920804

The Global Transformational Movement
A final version of the Earth Charter was issued by the Earth Charter Commission in March 2000. The Earth Charter "was drafted in coordination with a hard law treaty that is designed to provide an integrated legal framework for all environment development law and policy." This hard law treaty is called the International Covenant on Environment and Development and is being prepared by the Commission on Environmental Law at the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN), a behemoth agency which oversees 700+ governmental agencies worldwide.

The Earth Charter, consisting of 16 principles, has its roots in the values of the Transformational Movement. Jan Roberts, president of the Institute for Ethics and Meaning describes this Transformational Movement as a paradigm shift from individualism, self-interest and separativeness, to unity, wholeness and community. Steven C. Rockefeller was the prime candidate for the leadership role as co-chair of the Earth Charter Steering Committee, the Drafting Committee and co-chair of the final Earth Charter Commission. Besides being a professor of Religion and Ethics at Middlebury College, expounding the virtues of "creation-centered theology," in his capacity as trustee of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, his family's resources ensured the success of the project.

It's clear that the global transformationalists are promoting the Earth Charter as the "new scripture." At the presentation of the Ark, and its "new gospel" contents, we can expect that it will be endorsed by the U.N. The halls of the United Nations has long been a haven for New Age one-world religion spirituality. Former Secretary-Generals like Dag Hammarskjold (founder of the U.N. Meditation Room), U Thant and former Assistant Secretary-General Robert Muller have long been outspoken advocates of a new pantheistic global spirituality, using the U.N. as a vehicle to spread their doctrine.

The United Nations even has their own in-house prophet, Sri Chinmoy. This 70 year-old indian mystic is the official Spiritual Advisor to the United Nations. For the past 23 years he has offered prayer and meditation meetings for anyone to attend every Tuesday and Friday at the U.N. 5 Sri Chinmoy claims to have been Thomas Jefferson in a previous life, and he also claims to be the Spiritual Brother to Jesus Christ. 6 Chinmoy's disciples claim he's one of a handful of fully enlightened beings on the planet. Some disciples go so far as to claim he is an avatar, a living God. They meditate to a print of his face.

Perhaps the final resting place for the "Ark of Hope" will be in the United Nation's Holy-of-Holies, the U.N. meditation room. "We have the UN Meditation Room, which is visited by hundreds of thousands of visitors a year," Robert Muller explains in his book Genesis: Shaping a Global Spirituality. "We have also a UN Meditation Group led by an Indian Mystic. One could tell several moving stories of the spiritual transformation the UN has caused, to the point that this little speck on earth is becoming a holy ground." (quoted in The New World Religion, by Gary Kah, p. 310)

To Sri Chinmoy and Robert Muller, world peace will ultimately depend "on divine and cosmic government" and an "alliance between all major religions and the U.N." Muller has gone so far as to call the U.N. "the body of Christ." The United Nations "will be the last word in human perfection," Sri Chinmoy proclaims, it will "stand as the pinnacle of divine enlightenment." 7

The Earth Charter stresses that man is his own saviour. By saving "mother earth" we will once again return to an idyllic Garden of Eden. But instead of worshipping the Creator, the New Age Aquarian conspirators wish to plunge us headlong into a creation-worship new world religion. "Little by little a planetary prayer book is thus being composed by an increasingly united humanity seeking its oneness," Robert Muller preaches. "Once again, but this time on a universal scale, humankind is seeking no less than its reunion with 'divine,' its transcendence into higher forms of life. Hindus call our earth Brahma, or God, for they rightly see no difference between our earth and the divine. This ancient simple truth is slowly dawning again upon humanity, as we are about to enter our cosmic age and become what we were always meant to be: the planet of God."

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.”

Romans 1:22-25 (KJV)

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(Note: The following is only an extract. For the full document, go here.)

“The Earth Charter: Building a Global Culture of Peace” Steven C. Rockefeller The Earth Charter Community Summits Tampa, Florida, September 29, 2001

This is a good time for interfaith dialogue involving Christians, Jews and Muslims and members of other religious traditions as well. The Earth Charter can be used as a catalyst for exploring common ethical values in these exchanges.

A year from now, the United Nations will convene the World Summit on Sustainable Development, and our government representatives should know that we want the United States to play a creative leadership role at this critical world meeting.

Thousands of local, national, regional, and international organizations have now endorsed the Earth Charter. The most recent endorsement has come from the Parliament of the World’s Religions.

Invite your organization to consider endorsing the Earth Charter, if you have not already done so. The more support we have from civil society and local government, the greater the chance of endorsement by the United Nations General Assembly in 2002.

In my home state of Vermont, the Earth Charter is being transported across the state from town to town in a beautiful, handcrafted Ark of Hope by people walking in a spirit of peace. In addition to the Earth charter, the Ark of Hope contains the prayers and poems of many Vermonters. The global challenges before us are great, but if we unite behind the kind of vision affirmed in the Earth Charter, there are grounds for hope........ With reverence for the mystery of being and with reverence for life, let us resolve here today to commit ourselves anew to this great work.


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In response to the Sept. 11th attacks, the Vermont organizers carried the Ark to New York. The Ark of Hope was displayed at the United Nations from January 24th through February 19th.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Earth_Charter_Ark.htm


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UN resolution looks to give "Mother Earth" GAIA same rights as humans

Bolivia will this month table a draft United Nations treaty giving “Mother Earth” the same rights as humans — having just passed a domestic law that does the same for bugs, trees and all other natural things in the South American country.

The bid aims to have the UN recognize the Earth as a living entity that humans have sought to “dominate and exploit” — to the point that the “wellbeing and existence of many beings” is now threatened.

The wording may yet evolve, but the general structure is meant to mirror Bolivia’s Law of the Rights of Mother Earth, which Bolivian President Evo Morales enacted in January.

That document speaks of the country’s natural resources as “blessings,” and grants the Earth a series of specific rights that include rights to life, water and clean air; the right to repair livelihoods affected by human activities, and the right to be free from pollution.

It also establishes a Ministry of Mother Earth, and provides the planet with an ombudsman whose job is to hear nature’s complaints as voiced by activist and other groups, including the state.

“If you want to have balance, and you think that the only [entities] who have rights are humans or companies, then how can you reach balance?” said Pablo Salon, Bolivia’s ambassador to the UN. “But if you recognize that nature too has rights, and [if you provide] legal forms to protect and preserve those rights, then you can achieve balance.”

The application of the law appears destined to pose new challenges for companies operating in the country, which is rich in natural resources, including natural gas and lithium, but remains one of the poorest in Latin America.

But while Mr. Salon said his country just seeks to achieve “harmony” with nature, he signalled that mining and other companies may come under greater scrutiny.

“We’re not saying, for example, you cannot eat meat because you know you are going to go against the rights of a cow,” he said. “But when human activity develops at a certain scale that you [cause to] disappear a species, then you are really altering the vital cycles of nature or of Mother Earth. Of course, you need a mine to extract iron or zinc, but there are limits.”

Bolivia is a country with a large indigenous population, whose traditional belief systems took on greater resonance following the election of Mr. Morales, Latin America’s first indigenous president.

In a 2008 pamphlet his entourage distributed at the UN as he attended a summit there, ten “commandments” are set out as Bolivia’s plan to “save the planet” — beginning with the need “to end with capitalism.”

Reflecting indigenous traditional beliefs, the proposed global treaty says humans have caused “severe destruction … that is offensive to the many faiths, wisdom traditions and indigenous cultures for whom Mother Earth is sacred.”

It also says that “Mother Earth has the right to exist, to persist and to continue the vital cycles, structures, functions and processes that sustain all human beings.”

In indigenous Andean culture, the earth deity known as Pachamama is the centre of all life, and humans are considered equal to all other entities.

The UN debate begins two days before the UN’s recognition April 22 of the second International Mother Earth Day — another Morales-led initiative.

Canadian activist Maude Barlow is among global environmentalists backing the drive with a book the group will launch in New York during the UN debate: Nature Has Rights.

“It’s going to have huge resonance around the world,” Ms. Barlow said of the campaign. “It’s going to start first with these southern countries trying to protect their land and their people from exploitation, but I think it will be grabbed onto by communities in our countries, for example, fighting the tar sands in Alberta.”

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20   So Ahab sent unto all the children of Israel, and gathered the prophets together unto mount Carmel. 
21   And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD [be] God, follow him: but if Baal, [then] follow him. And the people answered him not a word. 
22   Then said Elijah unto the people, I, [even] I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal's prophets [are] four hundred and fifty men. 
23   Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay [it] on wood, and put no fire [under]: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay [it] on wood, and put no fire [under]: 
24   And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. 
25 ¶ And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress [it] first; for ye [are] many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire [under]. 
26   And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed [it], and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But [there was] no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. 
27   And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he [is] a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, [or] peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. 
28   And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them. 
29   And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the [time] of the offering of the [evening] sacrifice, that [there was] neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded. 
30 ¶ And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD [that was] broken down. 
31   And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name: 
32   And with the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD: and he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two measures of seed. 
33   And he put the wood in order, and cut the bullock in pieces, and laid [him] on the wood, and said, Fill four barrels with water, and pour [it] on the burnt sacrifice, and on the wood. 
34   And he said, Do [it] the second time. And they did [it] the second time. And he said, Do [it] the third time. And they did [it] the third time.
35   And the water ran round about the altar; and he filled the trench also with water. 
36   And it came to pass at [the time of] the offering of the [evening] sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou [art] God in Israel, and [that] I [am] thy servant, and [that] I have done all these things at thy word. 
37   Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that thou [art] the LORD God, and [that] thou hast turned their heart back again. 
38   Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that [was] in the trench. 
39   And when all the people saw [it], they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he [is] the God; the LORD, he [is] the God. 
40   And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.
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Ecumenism, False Shepherds and Doctrines of Devils

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Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? and what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the Living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

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« Reply #125 on: July 27, 2012, 09:58:00 am »

^^ Thank you for posting this, an excellent sermon! Wow...had no idea that Albert Mohler and Josh McDowell were among the ones signing these ecumenical documents. Both, especially McDowell have been long-time Christian Apologists.(McDowell wrote "The New Tolerance") Mohler, OTOH, has been a long-time prominent member of the leavened SBC. Despite all his babble exposing Rick Warren and the megechurches...well, it should tell you something that he continued to stay in the SBC(where Warren and other Emergents are members) despite all this.(if anything, come to think of it, sounded like he may have been playing his part of the Hegelian Dialect)

Anyhow - this must have been very recent b/c he mentioned the ecumenical event going on here in North Texas at Dallas Cowboys stadium(which happens to be in my backyard). Bless this man's heart and soul for taking a stand for the word of God and exposing these wolves!

God is giving his final warnings, IMHO - I don't think we have much time left. Judgment must begin at the house of the Lord...
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« Reply #126 on: August 31, 2012, 01:20:19 am »

Speaking of the seeker-sensitive movement that this guy talks about in the video - I'm reading one of David Cloud's(Way of Life ministries) e-books exposing the Purpose Driven deception.

This seeker-sensitive movement is actually much more subtle than you think - for the most part, they get into this marketing nonsense to see what the masses's tastes are, and then go from there to try to get the "unchurched" inside the buildings to cater to their tastes(ie-certain types of music, certain kinds of "preachings", and pretty much giving them what their attitudes/beliefs prefer). So no, it's not like they'll make it all blatant and put on a Six Flags/Mega Mall show with heavy metal music every week. It's alot like these secular businesses selling products...first they have to market them and see what everyone's tastes are before they put them on the market.(ie-this isn't pre-WW2 where it's "We make'em, you buy'em" kind of deal)

And it's not just Rick Warren and Bill Hybels(among other Emergent Church leaders doing this), but even "conservative" mainline Southern Baptists like Charles Stanley have gotten into this act as well. I've listened to Stanley for years - while he doesn't blatantly give these "tickle the ears" preachings, he will preach some biblical truth, and subtlely throw in some Carl Jungian philosophy. So if you're not grounded in the truth(the KJV truth, that is), there's going to be ALOT that's going to slip by you(and maybe in you). For example, 6 years ago, he preached a sermon over how God will allow "obstacles" in your life, and unless you do/don't this and that and enduring faith in this and that, those "obstacles" won't be removed. Uhm...this is nothing more than the worldly "This is your greatest challenge in your life!" nonsense that the secular world LOVES to embrace, b/c quite simply everyone loves a "big challenge" so they can "be stronger", "build character", "improve themselves", etc.(What about all our righteousnesses being as filthy rags? Whatever...)

And Stanley also seems to forget too that it was at the CROSS that Jesus Christ REMOVED these obstacles for us, by of course dying and shedding his blood for our sins, and resurrecting 3 days later. John 3:16 and Romans 10:9-10 SAYS IT ALL, and that is ALL, Charles!

Yeah, the secular marketing world is very subtle - now the modern-day church is copying their blueprint almost word for word, albeit with more subtlety.

Ecumenism, False Shepherds and Doctrines of Devils

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTuPusavNU&list=UUlDSddbvzF3XdW-VXb9KiHg&index=1&feature=plcp

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? and what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the Living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

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« Reply #127 on: October 02, 2012, 06:24:46 am »

Unitarian faith growing stronger in Middle TN

For Nathan De Lee, going to church as a kid was an ordeal.

De Lee, a Unitarian Universalist, grew up in rural Kansas, where members of his faith were few and far between. Attending services meant an overnight trip to Kansas City, where the nearest Unitarian Universalist congregation was.

Today, getting to church is easy for De Lee, an astronomer at Vanderbilt. He’s a regular in the choir on Sundays at First Unitarian Universalist Church in Nashville, a congregation of about 500.

“It’s just a 10-minute drive away,” he said.

De Lee is one of a growing number of local Unitarian Universalists, a faith that’s found growing appeal in recent years. From 2000 to 2010, the denomination grew by 15.8 percent in Middle Tennessee and by 20.8 percent statewide, according to the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.

While they remain rare in Tennessee — with about 3,000 adherents statewide — Unitarian Universalists believe their open-minded faith has a bright future as an alternative to more exclusive brands of religion.

They might be right, said Diana Butler Bass, author of “Christianity After Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of a New Spiritual Awakening.”

Bass, who has studied thriving progressive churches, said Unitarian Universalists can fill a niche in conservative religious cultures such as the Bible Belt.

“I think there is a role for these kinds of more open and liberal spiritual groups,” Bass said. “They provide a nice counter-cultural community.”

The denomination, which started in New England, has been growing more in the South than in other parts of the country, said Rachel Walden, a public witness specialist from the Boston-based Unitarian Universalist Association.

The church hopes to appeal to the rising number of “nones” — those with no specific religious identity. A recent poll from the Pew Center for the People and the Press showed that about one in five Americans falls into that category.

“Because we are so flexible, we think we are well placed to serve those people,” Walden said.
'Church of the open mind'

The Rev. Gail Seavey, the minister at First Unitarian Universalist, said some of her more conservative neighbors aren’t sure what to make of her faith.

Some think that inclusive means anything goes — but that’s not the case, she said.

Instead of a common theology, Unitarian Universalists have a set of common values. They believe in the worth and dignity of every human being. Conscience, rather than a creed, guides their spiritual life. Ethical living matters more than correct theology.

“We are the church of the open mind, the loving heart and the helping hand,” Seavey said. “We always try to pull those things together.”

That belief in the individual choice in faith can been seen in a practice known as water communion. In most churches, communion bread and wine start in a common vessel and then are passed out to church members.

In water communion, everyone starts with a cup of water and pours it in a common bowl.

“We are bunch of individuals finding our own path — but we are doing it as a group,” said De Lee.
Respecting differences

Other key values of the faith include searching for truth by learning about different faiths, respecting the differences between those faiths and making decisions by a democratic process.

“It’s a vision for our time,” said the Rev. Dan Rosemergy, minister at the Greater Nashville Unitarian Universalist Congregation at 364 Hicks Road.

The congregation started in the mid-1990s with about 40 people. Today it has about 160, he said.

He feels the church has a much-needed message.

“I think it makes so much sense in this world where there is so much conflict and division based on theology or doctrine and dogma,” he said.
A spiritual home

Some of the growth among local Unitarian Universalists has come from transplants like De Lee, who moved to Nashville last year from Florida. Others have joined because they dropped out of more exclusive churches or because they are in interfaith marriages.

Elaine Bailey-Fryd, who joined First Unitarian Universalist in 2008, grew up Baptist and had attended a United Methodist church.

Her husband is Jewish, and Bailey-Fryd wanted to find a faith community where they could worship together. Still, she said, she was skeptical at first.

“I had some idea that there would be some guy with an off-key guitar and bad singing and that the preacher may be preaching on some vague topic like love,” she said.

Instead, Bailey-Fryd said she found beautiful music and people who could talk about spiritual issues without insisting their point of view was the right one.

She said she’d always had some doubts about the claim that Jesus was the only way to heaven.

“I felt like I’ve been looking for this church all my life,” she said.
Inclusive appeal

Unitarian Universalists aren’t the only inclusive religious group that’s growing in Middle Tennessee. Baha’is, who believe that all major religions contain truth, grew by 11 percent from 2000 to 2010.

Aram Ferdowski, who works on spiritual development programs for local Baha’is, said one reason is immigration. About 200 Iranian Baha’is moved to Nashville over the last decade, fleeing persecution, she said. Several outreach programs have also attracted people to the faith.

Baha’is believe that all people are spiritual beings and that truth is found in many faiths, Ferdowski said.

“We believe that all these great prophets of God have been preparing mankind for this day where we can be united,” she said.

Ferdowski said Baha’is believe they were created to spread the word about God’s love for humanity and the unity of humankind. That belief has sustained them during times of great persecution in Iran, where the faith began.

“Baha’is are convinced we are here for a purpose,” she said.
Sense of community

For De Lee, the flexible beliefs of Unitarian Universalists are only part of the story.

The other main draw is a sense of community. The faith draws people who want to figure out spirituality on their own terms — but even independent thinkers need a spiritual family, he said.

That’s one reason he’s joined the choir as well as a covenant group — a small discussion group that meets during the week.

“If the idea of Unitarian Universalism is to be on a spiritual journey, it’s hard to do that where you are sitting in a crowd,” he said.

One of the strengths of Unitarian Universalism is its ability to bind people from different faiths into a tightly woven community, said the Rev. Kate Braestrup, a Unitarian minister from Maine and author of the New York Times bestseller “Here if You Need Me.”

Braestrup, a chaplain for the Maine Warden Service, is a second-career minister. She went to seminary after her husband, a Knoxville native and Maine state trooper, was killed in a car crash.

She said Unitarians show their belief that God is love by showing up when tragedy strikes.

“We don’t have an answer for death — we just show up and love you,” she said. “When you need love that badly and you are given it — it changes how you see everything.”

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120923/NEWS06/309230062/Unitarian-faith-growing-stronger-Middle-TN?utm
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« Reply #128 on: October 02, 2012, 09:09:18 am »

^^

Fritz Springmeyer exposed the Unitarian sect in detail in his "Be wise as serpents".

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Some of the growth among local Unitarian Universalists has come from transplants like De Lee, who moved to Nashville last year from Florida. Others have joined because they dropped out of more exclusive churches or because they are in interfaith marriages.

Dunno, but it seems like 99% of churches in America now, whether it's a "conservative" Southern Baptist or a "liberal" Presbyterian/Methodist are really one and the same, in that they lean inclusive and sprinkle a little interfaith, both of which they seem to do it subtlely and maybe without knowing it. Having been to Southern Baptist churches my entire life, I can attest to this.(ie-one of my previous churches yoked up with Habitat for Humanity to do community projects - Habitat is a big interfaith organization, even though you may not notice it from up front, but it seems like the modern-day church has no idea)

First off, there's the 501c3 issue, which has prevented these churches from preaching the whole council of God. Two, they've pretty much thrown out God's 100% pure words, the KJV. Next thing they know, they're almost completely without discernment, and potentially most of the pews aren't even saved.

Ultimately, it's no surprise to see the sad state of the church now, and how people are "branching out" into these non-believing, liberal sects like Unitarian.
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« Reply #130 on: October 21, 2012, 12:07:07 am »

Europe4ALL = EuropefourALL = EuropeFALL

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

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Europe4ALL = EuropefourALL = EuropeFALL

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!



That's a good one! Smiley

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« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2013, 05:04:05 am »

I needed to find someway to kill time tomorrow, so I thought I'd go to the movies (can't even remember the last time I went!) anyway, I thought I'd check out the reviews of the 'Life of Pi' and found this comment-

It's not surprising that Ang Lee, in bringing Life of Pi to the big screen, fails to capture the full force and richness of Martel's book, which spends the first third in the French enclave of Pondicherry where young Pi (as recalled by his older self) recounts his idyllic life, his father's zoo and, most significantly, his grappling with the nature of God and drive to unify the world's great religions.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/15756808/review-life-of-pi/

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« Reply #134 on: January 08, 2013, 09:20:45 am »

I needed to find someway to kill time tomorrow, so I thought I'd go to the movies (can't even remember the last time I went!) anyway, I thought I'd check out the reviews of the 'Life of Pi' and found this comment-

It's not surprising that Ang Lee, in bringing Life of Pi to the big screen, fails to capture the full force and richness of Martel's book, which spends the first third in the French enclave of Pondicherry where young Pi (as recalled by his older self) recounts his idyllic life, his father's zoo and, most significantly, his grappling with the nature of God and drive to unify the world's great religions.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/15756808/review-life-of-pi/

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Ang Lee also directed 2003's "Hulk" movie - one of those Nephelim movies, that is.
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« Reply #135 on: January 26, 2013, 02:02:31 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/religion-comes-davos-forum-210252953.html

1/25/13

Religion comes to Davos forum

DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) — Who created Davos, and why does it exist?
Questions about God and religion were rife at the World Economic Forum in the Swiss resort of Davos this year — providing a philosophical break from the more temporal concerns that tend to dominate the annual gathering of business and political leaders.

"Religion is more relevant now than ever," asserted Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt, a leader of the Russian Jewish community.

Studies around the world show conflicting trends: while Christianity and Islam are showing steady growth in developing countries, the number of people who identify with no religion is on the rise in the richer world.
Goldschmidt quickly found himself in a deep debate with Arizona State University theoretical physicist Lawrence M. Krauss that reflected age-old tensions over religion, science and reason.

Why believe in explanations that lack evidence, and obsess about a book written by ancients who "didn't know about the revolution of the Earth around the sun," Krauss asked.

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Pope urges religions, those with no church to ally for justice

- Pope Francis urged members of all religions and those belonging to no church on Wednesday to unite to defend justice, peace and the environment and not allow the value of a person to be reduced to "what he produces and what he consumes".

Francis, elected a week ago as the first non-European pope in 1,300 years, met leaders of non-Catholic Christian religions such as Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists, and others including Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus.

"The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of furthering respect of friendship between men and women of different religious traditions," the Argentine pontiff told the religious leaders in an audience at the Vatican.

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Well, this guy is already making his true fangs known while barely getting his feet wet as the new Pope.
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Pope's Address to Representatives of the Churches, Ecclesial Communities and Other Religions

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Here is the translation of the address given today by Pope Francis, when he received in audience the fraternal delegates of churches, ecclesial communities and international ecumenical bodies, representatives of the Jewish people and of non-Christian religions, gathered in Rome for the celebration of the official start of his ministry as Bishop of Rome.


The Holy Father delivered his address after His Holiness Bartholomew I, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, greeted him.

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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

First of all I thank my Brother Andrew [Bartholomew I] very much for what he said. Thank you very much! Thank you!

It is a cause for particular joy to meet today with you, delegates of the Orthodox churches, the Oriental Orthodox churches and ecclesial communities of the West. Thank you for having wanted to take part in the celebration that has marked the beginning of my Ministry as Bishop of Rome and successor of Peter.

Yesterday morning, during Holy Mass, through your persons I recognized as spiritually present the communities that you represent. In this manifestation of faith, I seemed to experience in an even more urgent way the prayer for unity among believers in Christ and together to see somehow foreshadowed that full realization, which depends on the plan of God and on our loyal collaboration.

I begin my Apostolic Ministry in this year which my venerable predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, with truly inspired insight, proclaimed the Year of Faith for the Catholic Church. With this initiative, which I want to continue and hope is a stimulus for the faith journey of all, he wished to mark the 50th anniversary of the beginning of the Second Vatican Council, proposing a sort of pilgrimage towards that which is most essential for every Christian: the personal and transforming relationship with Jesus Christ, Son of God, who died and rose for our salvation. The heart of the Council's message resides precisely in the desire to announce this perennially valid treasure of faith to the men of our time.

Together with you I cannot forget how much that Council has meant for the road of ecumenism. I would like to recall the words of Blessed John XXIII, the 50th anniversary of whose death we will soon commemorate, which he pronounced in his memorable inauguration speech: "the Catholic Church considers it her duty to actively seek to fulfill the great mystery of that unity which Jesus Christ with most ardent prayers beseeched the Heavenly Father in the imminence of his sacrifice; It enjoys delightful peace, knowing itself to be intimately United with Christ in those prayers» (AAS 54 [1962], 793). This is Pope John.

Yes, dear brothers and sisters in Christ, let us all feel intimately united to the prayer of our Savior in the Last Supper, to his invocation: ut unum sint. Let us ask the merciful Father to live in fullness that faith that we received as a gift on the day of our baptism, and to be able to bear free, courageous and joyful testimony to it. This will be our best service to the cause of unity among Christians, a service of hope to a world still marked by divisions, by contrast and rivalry. The more we are faithful to His will, in our thoughts, words and deeds, the more we will actually and substantially walk towards unity.

For my part, I wish to assure you, in the wake of my predecessors, of my determination to continue on the path of ecumenical dialogue and I would like to thank in advance the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, for the help that it will continue to offer, in my name, for this noble cause. I ask you, dear brothers and sisters, to bring my cordial greeting and the assurance of my remembrance in the Lord Jesus to the churches and Christian communities here represented, and request of you the charity of a special prayer for my person, to be a pastor according to the heart of Christ.

And now I turn to you distinguished representatives of the Jewish people, to which we are joined in a very special spiritual bond, since, as the Second Vatican Council affirms, the Church of Christ acknowledges that “the beginnings of her faith and her election are already, according to the divine mystery of salvation, in the Patriarchs, Moses, and the prophets” (Declar. Nostra aetate, 4). Thank you for your presence and I am confident that, with the help of the Almighty, we will be able to continue profitably that fraternal dialogue that the Council advocated (cf. ibid.) and that has actually been accomplished, bringing many fruits, especially in recent decades.

I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions - I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions - it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs. It is equally aware of the responsibility that we all have towards this world of ours, towards all of Creation, that we should love and protect. And we can do much for the sake of the poorest, those who are weak and who suffer, to promote justice, to promote reconciliation and to build peace. But, above all, we need to keep alive in the world the thirst for the absolute, not allowing to prevail a one-dimensional vision of the human person, according to which man is reduced to what he produces and consumes: this is this one of the most dangerous pitfalls for our time.

We know how much violence has been produced in recent history by the attempt to eliminate God and the divine from the horizon of humanity, and we experience the value of witnessing in our societies to the original opening to transcendence that is inherent in the human heart. In this, we feel close even to all those men and women who, whilst not recognising themselves belonging to any religious tradition, feel themselves nevertheless to be in search of truth, goodness and beauty, this truth, goodness and beauty of God, and who are our precious allies in efforts to defend the dignity of man, in building a peaceful coexistence among peoples and in guarding Creation carefully.

Dear friends, thank you again for your presence. To everyone I extend my cordial and fraternal greeting.

[translation by Peter Waymel]

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VATICAN CITY - UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday hailed Pope Francis as "a spiritual leader of the world" and emphasized goals of social justice shared between the Vatican and the United Nations.

"It is very important to meet a spiritual leader of the world," Ban said at the start of his meeting with the Argentine pope, who last month became the first non-European leader of the world's Catholics in nearly 1,300 years.

"The Holy See and the UN share common goals and ideas," said Ban—one of the first world leaders to be received at an audience by the new pontiff.

Francis has called for the Roman Catholic Church to be closer to ordinary people and help the needy, as well as to reach out to people of different religions and non-believers.

"We discussed the need to advance social justice and accelerate work to meet the Millenium Development Goals," Ban said after the meeting.

The international community has undertaken to meet goals including eradicating extreme poverty and hunger and reducing child mortality by 2015.

"Pope Francis is a man of peace and purpose. He is a voice for the voiceless," he said.

Ban said he also invited the pope to visit the United Nations "at his earliest convenience."

The UN leader also commented on the pope's choice to name himself after St Francis of Assisi, saying this was "a powerful message for the many goals shared by the United Nations."

"It speaks loudly of his commitment to the poor, his acute sense of humility, his passion and compassion to improve the human condition," he said.

Ban gave the pope a large book with the Charter of the United Nations in six languages.

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God knows that I wish I could have some one on one time with the pope. Have a little religious conversation about the apostasy of his cult. I'd like to look that clown right in the eyes and let him tell me with a straight face that he actually believes their delusional lies. Reprove, rebuke, and exhort is what that guy needs.

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« Reply #141 on: April 22, 2013, 03:39:02 am »

God knows that I wish I could have some one on one time with the pope. Have a little religious conversation about the apostasy of his cult. I'd like to look that clown right in the eyes and let him tell me with a straight face that he actually believes their delusional lies. Reprove, rebuke, and exhort is what that guy needs.

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http://www.gulf-times.com/qatar/178/details/349975/delegates-from-75-countries--attending-inter-faith-dialogue
Delegates from 75 countries attending inter-faith dialogue
4/22/13

More than 300 delegates from over 75 countries will  attend different sessions of the Doha International Centre for Inter-Faith Dialogue’s  10th annual conference starting  at Ritz-Carlton Doha tomorrow.

Doha International Centre for Inter-Faith Dialogue chairman Prof Ibrahim al-Naimi said yesterday the annual dialogue had attracted worldwide attention over the years and it had been successful in bringing together on a single platform an array of representatives of different faiths all along.

“As the dialogue is held for the 10th successive year, its significance is growing across the world and it is evident from the growing numbers of participants from different parts of the world,” said al-Naimi.

Held under the patronage of Minister of Justice HE Hassan bin Abdullah al-Ghanem, this year’s conference is spread over three days and covers a number of sessions, involving the participation of representatives of Christian, Muslim and Jewish faiths.

Among those attending the dialogue this year are the representative of Pope Francis and deputy president of the Political Council for Inter-Religious dialogue Fr Miguel Angel Ayuso Guixot, executive director of the Latin American Jewish Congress Claudio Gregario Epelmen and Qatar-based Islamic scholar Dr Ali M A al-Quaradaghi and  Alliance of Civilisations president Nasr Abdelaziz al-Nasr.

At the conference, an international award would be announced for an individual who has contributed to strengthening the cause of the inter-faith dialogues at the global level. “The award is being instituted as the Doha dialogue is entering the 10th successful year”, said al-Naimi.

Representatives from the US, the UK, Russia, Austria, Italy, the Vatican, Japan, Argentina, Switzerland, Romania, Ukraine, France, Poland, Germany, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Spain, Morocco, Jordan, Bosnia, Algeria, India, Tunisia, Sweden, Kosovo, Brazil, Palestine, Albania, Chile, Syria,  Indonesia, New Zealand,  the Philippines and  Denmark  are to attend the conference.

“We are confident of achieving better results for our mission in coming days,” said  al-Naimi.

Answering a question on how the Doha Inter-faith Dialogue is different from similar endeavours in other countries,  al-Naimi said: “We have been different all along and this has been acknowledged not only by participants in each of the previous editions but also by several global leaders including presidents, ministers, diplomats, academicians and religious heads from across the world.”

He stressed  that there was no room for confrontation at the Doha conference and the organisers had reiterated it over and again that their most important mission was the betterment of  humanity and peace all over the world through better understanding of each others’ faith and beliefs.

“We are holding the annual event to listen, understand and enter into dialogue with people of different faiths and make use of the occasion to bring communities closer to each other than what they were before.”

Al-Naimi said the growing attendance at the conference showed there were many people who were willing to attend the annual event on their own as delegates and Qatar  looked forward to the participation of such participants who had seen the dialogue as an effective platform to express their views, ideas and concerns.
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Chelsea Clinton to Promote Interfaith Work at NYU

Chelsea Clinton is wearing a new professional hat, one that will take her in a religious direction.

The former first daughter is now the co-founder and co-chairwoman of New York University’s Of Many Institute, a program for “multifaith” education. Its website says the institute “supports a new generation of religious and civic leaders who, deeply rooted in their own religious and spiritual traditions, reach across faith boundaries to solve social problems together.”

Clinton’s new job was reported first by the New York Post. There was no press release or big announcement, the newspaper reported—just her bio downloaded onto the program’s website.

Clinton is Christian and her husband, Marc Mezvinsky, is Jewish. She told Time magazine last year that she was interested in helping to create, support and sustain multifaith leadership.

“I find that really fascinating and fantastic … it’s something that’s quite close to home,” Clinton said in September. “It’s something that I personally care a lot about and I’m committed to helping people who are really doing the work make it happen.”

Clinton has been taking a more active role at the Clinton Global Initiative, which was founded by her father, former President Bill Clinton. She also works as a special correspondent for NBC News and has taught at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health.

Since 2010, Clinton has been affiliated with NYU as assistant vice provost for the Global Network University.

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The Of Many Institute for Multifaith Leadership at NYU (OM) is a groundbreaking academic and programmatic model for multifaith education at the university level. The Institute supports a new generation of religious and civic leaders who, deeply rooted in their own religious and spiritual traditions, reach across faith boundaries to solve social problems together.
 
Three interlocking efforts ensure the fulfillment of this mission. First, OM offers academically rigorous courses and will soon offer a minor in Multifaith and Spiritual Leadership, all of which are designed to help young people develop a greater sense of understanding and empathy. Second, OM facilitates multifaith relationship-building and dialogue, and fosters a commitment to community service and social justice through its programmatic activities. Finally, OM works to transform the national discourse on faith in order to reflect the work of religious peacemakers on campus through sustained engagement with community organizations and other colleges seeking consultation and replication.
 
Why this work is important
 
For many years now, global leaders – both religious and civic – have acknowledged the need for productive interfaith dialogue and multifaith relationships in order to bring together diverse religious traditions to create a more peaceful world. The September 11th attacks, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and the Park 51 controversy are all occasions that required institutions in the US to lead nuanced public discussions guided by well-informed multifaith leaders dedicated to building bridges, promoting peace and coexistence and forging a shared future. From these times of crisis, far too few of these leaders have emerged as a sustained presence, and even fewer institutions have become equipped to support such multifaith action. The result has been ongoing misunderstanding, divisiveness, and outright hostility between faith groups worldwide.
 
This tension between religious groups has manifested across the country, including on college campuses. Healthy dialogue and action between diverse faith communities, as well as the widespread understanding of these relations, are important in order to protect and foster a flourishing student-life at institutions of higher education and across the US. Universities, where the leaders of the next generation are trained to shape the future, must enable and foster accepting relationships between people of different faiths so that students can carry this understanding and acceptance into the rest of their lives.
 
Recognizing the importance of this, President Obama issued a challenge to advance interfaith cooperation and community service in higher education. He invited representatives of different spiritual traditions to join together and engage in projects to enhance civil society. Through the development of the ‘Of Many’ Institute, New York University was one of the largest private research universities in the country to take this challenge head-on, creating one of the first community-based, university-wide multifaith efforts in the country.
 
Research shows that university students are eager to engage in this work. In a 2004 study of 112,232 national college students, 80% reported being interested in spirituality, with 47% saying that it is “essential or very important” to have opportunities to grow spiritually (Higher Education Research Institute, 2004). A study of 988 NYU students in 2004 reported that over half of those surveyed felt they had a strong sense of personal spirituality, and a remarkable 82.7% believed that they could best develop religiously through interactions with diverse religious groups (Lee, 2004). OM gives them multiple opportunities to do so.

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President Obama Criticizes Catholic Education

During a speech yesterday in Belfast, President Barack Obama criticized Catholic education, suggesting that it’s harmful to national unity.

“If towns remain divided—if Catholics have their schools and buildings and Protestants have theirs, if we can’t see ourselves in one another and fear or resentment are allowed to harden—that too encourages division and discourages cooperation,” said the President, during his Northern Ireland Visit for the G8 summit.

The Scottish Catholic Observer pointed out that Archbishop Gerhard Müller, prefect of the Vatican's Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, recently praised Catholic education before a Scottish audience.


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Well, at least Obama got something right!

Hate to sound like I'm praising him for something - but I myself went to a Catholic HS, and I tell you, they will REALLY work you to death in SECULAR studies(as well as their "Theology" deceptions)! And if you come out with flying color grades, then you really become puffed up with the pride of knowledge!(like I did briefly)

No, not saying public schools are good or anything(don't endorse this system either), but nonetheless through my experiences, Catholic schools are much worse.

When they talk about political leaders et al being Jesuit trained - yeah, this is exactly what they do in these schools - work you to death in their secular/"theology" studies to the point where you're puffed up with the pride of knowledge.

Gen 2:15  And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
Gen 2:16  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


1Cor_8:1  Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
1Co 8:2  And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
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Hate to sound like I'm praising him for something -

Well, brother, even a broke clock is correct twice a day!  Wink
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« Reply #147 on: July 12, 2013, 05:02:29 am »

Over the week long trip in India, met my dad's former graduate student(who helped with the conference), and from there found out that he attended our church's Wednesday night services for awhile when he was there. He seemed to like observing it, despite being a practicing Hindu.

Pt being that don't you see how DEAD SPIRITUALLY these modern-day churches are? It seems like anyone who's not a Christian, and has no intentions of converting just feels at home at these places.

Mat 10:32  Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


If these pastors and other church leaders were really preaching truth, these people who have no intentions of getting saved would be SHOWING THEMSELVES the door in a matter of a few minutes! Again, shouldn't it raise red flags to anyone that people of other "religions" end up liking these churches?

James 4:4  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Yes, the Vatican is the very speartip of pushing the OWR, but nonetheless you can see THIS One World Religion RIGHT in the very eyes of these dead churches!
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« Reply #148 on: July 12, 2013, 05:49:37 am »

That's part of the leaven. Just like the serpent told Eve the truth, sort of, then outright lied to her. It's appealing to itching ears because it sounds kind of like a truth, so it draws people's attention. Toss in a mention of a god, and people will listen for a bit, especially the spiritual types, those that believe in mortal men who they call "masters" of some type.

Ask yourself just how many other religions on earth have a policy of rebuking other religions as false? Or even have a doctrine of converting the unbelieving? Most won't rebuke other religions, but instead have a policy of "unity" with all people, etc. And most don't actively go out and try to convert people. They say in the world, "To each his own", and so it is with all the world's false religions. It's an agreement that nobody will mess with other religions so long as they all accept each other and allow each other to do their own thing. It really is evidence of "the world would love his own..."
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Controversial New ‘Religion That Embraces All Religions’


If you’re a part of a specific denomination or religious sect, Living Interfaith Church of Lynnwood is probably unlike anything you’ve seen before. The house of worship, based in Lynnwood, Washington, is run by the Rev. Steven Greenebaum, 65, and, as per its name, the church offers an “interfaith” experience.
 
So, what, exactly, does that mean?
 
Rather than focusing solely upon Jesus, Muhammad or other central religious figures that are specific to certain faiths, the Living Interfaith Church focuses upon a more interconnected sentiment — one that brings together people of any and all theological views.

Not simply mixture of people who come together to worship and celebrate their own heritage and religious culture, the house of worship claims that its interfaith nature is an actual “faith” in its own regard.
 
Here’s how the church defines its theology (emphasis added):
 

Interfaith is a faith that embraces the teachings of all spiritual paths that lead us to seek a life of compassionate action.  Interfaith, as a faith, does not seek to discover which religion or spiritual path is “right.”  Rather, it recognizes that we are all brothers and sisters, and that at different times and different places we have encountered the sacred differently.
 
Interfaith celebrates our differing spiritual paths, recognizing it is our actions in this world that count; that we are called to engage the world, and to do so with compassion and with love.
 
In the past, “interfaith” has usually meant people of good will from differing spiritual paths getting together briefly for a project and then simply going home.  That was worthwhile and hugely important.  But today the world needs more.  Interfaith, as a spiritual practice, can serve as a model for how we deal with each other.

Confused? Allow us to try and unpack the church’s goals. Recently, The New York Times attended the house of worship and spoke with Greenebaum about his motivations. According to the newspaper, Living Interfaith Church is in its third year of existence.
 
The faith leader, who wears clergy garb that has symbols of nearly one dozen religions on it, spent decades looking to find a “religion that embraces all religions.” When he didn’t find one, Greenebaum decided to create it.
 
During the service that the Times visited, there was a Koran, a Hebrew Bible, two volumes of the Humanist Manifesto and the “Black Elk Speaks” (a Sioux book), among other elements. The liturgy included sayings and invocations from various religions as well. It included a poem from Rumi, a Sufi mystic, an early-Christian greeting, an African American spiritual and a rabbinical song.
 
The Times continues, noting just how diverse these services generally are:
 

In other weeks, the service has drawn from Bahai, Shinto, Sikh, Hindu and Wiccan traditions, and from various humanist sources.
 
If the Living Interfaith Church could appear hippie-dippy, as if scented with sage and patchouli, that impression proved deceptive. Mr. Greenebaum’s goals were serious, and they exemplified a movement in American religion toward dissolving denominational lines.
 
Anyone who believes that his or her faith is the only way to God, well, this church probably isn’t for you.
 
Considering the house of worship’s views, one cannot help but wonder about Greenebaum’s own theological background. It turns out, he has been a faith leader for quite some time.
 
From 2007 until 2010, he served as associate minister at Interfaith Community Church in Seattle and he was the director of music at Evergreen Unitaian Universalist Fellowship in Marysville, Washington, for a decade. He also wrote a book in 2012 entitled, “The Interfaith Alternative.”
 
The reverend’s primary goal, it seems, is to knock down the barriers that often divide. Many times, people hunker down in their religions, believe that they have it right and are, thus, divided from others with whom they disagree. After the 9/11 attacks, Greenebaum realized that, in his view, it is essential for people of different theological views to pray together.
 
“My faith is Interfaith. My spiritual path is Judaism. My tribe is Humanity,” proclaims the faith leader on his church’s website.
 
Watch a description of “interfaith,” below:


While he grew up as a Reform Jew in Los Angeles, Greenebaum’s current interfaith religious views certainly seem to separate him from that upbringing. But he doesn’t claim to have left the faith. Rather than believing that God spoke only to Moses, he holds that the Almighty also addressed others and that faith views outside of his own are not insignificant.
 
Worshipping separately, he says, is only natural.
 
“Now, I’m not here to try to convince anyone that there is no such thing as right or wrong,” the preacher said during a recent sermon. “But I am here to say that there is no ‘them.’ And there is no ‘us’ who are somehow superior to them.”
 
Currently, 30 people worship at Living Interfaith Church. For more information about the experimental church, visit its website. http://livinginterfaith.org/

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