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« Reply #90 on: November 12, 2011, 06:55:10 pm »

This is so STUPID to even debate. DUH DUH DUH do you just want an argument DOK? Ban metaldrew, he is a divider. He isn't KJV only. I joined this forum not to get in STUPID debate over DUH issues. DUH metal  is of SATAN. We are trying to talk about if Little House on Prairie and space alien frogs are christian. This guy needs to go to any other christian forum out there, they all will be anti-christs with him

 Shocked kind of harsh arent ya?

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« Reply #91 on: November 12, 2011, 07:03:36 pm »

You know, what gripes me with Christians(not all, but some) that are around me is that when "new" things come up in today's church(ie-Leadership conferences hosted by the Emergent Church), and I point out the errors of them, their responses are like, "But times have changed".

Again, if something was rejected in the church 50 years ago and way before that, WHY is it all of a sudden embraced with full arms? Same with the xmas issue - the Pilgrims and Puritans didn't celebrate it(and their kids were in school on 12/25), and early America sure didn't celebrate it either(it was actually against the law). Any encyclopedia will say xmas is a pagan holiday. So why NOW?

God sure doesn't change his mind(he's the same yesterday, today, and forever), so all of a sudden he's changing his mind NOW? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #92 on: November 12, 2011, 07:07:53 pm »

You know, what gripes me with Christians(not all, but some) that are around me is that when "new" things come up in today's church(ie-Leadership conferences hosted by the Emergent Church), and I point out the errors of them, their responses are like, "But times have changed".

Again, if something was rejected in the church 50 years ago and way before that, WHY is it all of a sudden embraced with full arms? Same with the xmas issue - the Pilgrims and Puritans didn't celebrate it(and their kids were in school on 12/25), and early America sure didn't celebrate it either(it was actually against the law). Any encyclopedia will say xmas is a pagan holiday. So why NOW?

God sure doesn't change his mind(he's the same yesterday, today, and forever), so all of a sudden he's changing his mind NOW? Roll Eyes

Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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« Reply #93 on: November 13, 2011, 02:54:16 am »

Titus 3:10 KJV: A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject
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« Reply #94 on: November 13, 2011, 03:15:13 am »

Just reading this thread, metaldrew you have just had what is called a "wake up" call.

I kind of feel sorry for you because i did like Christian rock for awhile but got over it, now you have to think about your beliefs especially in using the NIV Bible i suggest you go here:

http://www.av1611.org/niv.html

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http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/1611_authorized_king_james.htm
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« Reply #95 on: November 13, 2011, 11:38:19 am »

Thank you, I have not had a wake-up call though. I have already read this first link, and the second one did not really say anything that I haven't heard... Did ya'll know at one time the KJV was rejected in the church?? I just say this because you say that Jesus doesn't change, however you hold the KJV as the only really Bible, yet at one time it was viewed as heresy?? I just feel like there is a double standard, however that is just my view, and as me and Dok have agreed, we just agree to disagree on the whole metal issue...
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« Reply #96 on: November 13, 2011, 12:07:34 pm »

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Did ya'll know at one time the KJV was rejected in the church??

Which church? a building? the Catholic church? The KJB was fully accepted by the Church, the body of Christ. it was only rejected by the Catholic, hense the reason they made a new Bible through Westcott and Hort.
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« Reply #97 on: November 13, 2011, 08:56:59 pm »

"In fact, some 80% of the KJV was copied from the Geneva Bible. It is clear, then, that the KJV really was ‘just another English translation’, excellent when it was written (specially considering the limited number of manuscripts available at that time) but still ‘just a translation’ – just like the NIV and other modern Bibles... I wonder if the Christians who used the Geneva Bible of 1560 complained loudly about the “heretical new KJV Bible” when it was first introduced?"

Again, this is just some of the things I believe, if you don't it's no big deal
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« Reply #98 on: November 14, 2011, 01:25:57 am »

Again, this is just something I've researched, it's no big deal...

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« Reply #99 on: November 14, 2011, 03:16:58 am »

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I wonder if the Christians who used the Geneva Bible of 1560 complained loudly about the “heretical new KJV Bible” when it was first introduced?"

There is no historical record that anyone that read the Geneva Bible complained about the King James Bible from what i have read. What is there to complain about? Once they read it they would have realized that it is a pretty good read.

The Geneva Bible came about from persecuted English Christians in Geneva, Switzerland, the King James Bible came about so that the English would have there own superior English Bible for the British Empire. There were many more scholars available for the King James Version and i'm sure those that read the KJV knew that it had much better quality.
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« Reply #100 on: November 14, 2011, 08:41:28 am »

"In fact, some 80% of the KJV was copied from the Geneva Bible. It is clear, then, that the KJV really was ‘just another English translation’, excellent when it was written (specially considering the limited number of manuscripts available at that time) but still ‘just a translation’ – just like the NIV and other modern Bibles... I wonder if the Christians who used the Geneva Bible of 1560 complained loudly about the “heretical new KJV Bible” when it was first introduced?"

Again, this is just some of the things I believe, if you don't it's no big deal

Thats not quite true. The Whole KJB was translated out of the TR. Much of it corresponded to the Geneva. A lot didnt. Also the people that used the Geneva gave the up for the KJB.

if you would like to know how all of this played out watch this doc.

Lamp In The Dark:Untold History of the Bible ~ Full Documentary
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« Reply #101 on: November 14, 2011, 08:46:16 am »

I'm certainly not on the "Christian rock is of the devil" bandwagon, there are some groups out there that truly worship Jesus in their music. Go and listen to the video Dok posted the other day of Jeremy Camp's "the way". No doubt Jeremy is on fire for his Lord and Savior, and it shows in his lyrics!
But when I read lyrics like this:
"Father I'm here to pray in your name,
please push me in the direction of what is best for me"
There is no doubt what their music is all about...and their fruit is rotten.
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« Reply #102 on: November 14, 2011, 08:58:00 am »

there are very few msm "christian" songs i like. The Way by Jeremy Camp comes across as very Christian. I also line Andrew Mcleod, But i do not believe at all that this band, Texas in July is Christian at all. And i do not see how this kind of music is edifying or even a joyful noise.
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« Reply #103 on: December 23, 2011, 08:04:40 am »

Please read "Inside Rock Music", which Bryan Denlinger at kingjamesvideoministries.com mails out for free by request.

It is a FASCINATING read over how all of this has been deliberate, and meant to pollute the minds of our youth since the 50's. It started out as secular rock, and then many years later opened the door for "Christian rock".
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« Reply #104 on: December 23, 2011, 08:11:48 am »

is it a book, phamphlet what?
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« Reply #105 on: December 26, 2011, 05:23:53 pm »

is it a book, phamphlet what?

Sorry, didn't see this reply b/c when I got my new PC on Thurs after a 3 day hiatus, there were so many unread posts since my last visit that I ended up overlooking this one.

Yes, it's a book(no, it's not written by Bryan, FYI) - it's about 180 pages, but it's a fairly quick read, albeit a fascinating one. Just go to Bryan's site to email him, and he will send you one for free.
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