BornAgain, you certainly have done your homework on some of these leaders, thank goodness! I am not familiar with some of them. I'm sure 'fruit' can mean those whom Christians associate with as well. I will look into these names you have mentioned.
Didn't come from me, it came from the Lord, Praise Him!
If anything, if there's even a speck of doubt, the internet search engines are your best friends. What I did afterwards was did a search for "Bill Weiss false teacher". And even though only 1 result for it came up, that link I read did their homework well(and pointed to scripture I never even thought about from the KJV that showed his errors).
When he initially quoted John MacArthur the first few times, it wasn't so much he mentioned MacArthur's name, but the fact was that he sounded like he was relying on man's word rather than God's word. It's no different if I myself quoted Scott or Pastor Hoggard with everything I talk about instead of quoting scripture. But it was then he got into Billy Graham, and then Reinhart Bunke when it really seemed like he was going off the deep end all along. Plus he was using NIV verses, not the KJV.
Also, remember this passage...
Luk 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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So why would God turn back on his words and give Bill Weiss some vision about Hell to warn about others, when it's written in his word to begin with?
Also, just another thought came to me - you have this(Bill Weiss's "vision"), and then recently another "influential" by the name of Rob Bell comes out and claims there's NO Hell. Anyone else sense Satan's NWO minions are trying to play some Hegelian Dialectic game with the masses? I mean it's not like you're hearing anyone from the "religious right"(nor Seminary Presidents) coming out saying which is right and which is wrong.
