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Texas Governor Rick Perry Calls for National Day of Prayer on August 6th 2011

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« on: June 13, 2011, 12:32:08 am »

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Here is a video report on the event that Texas Governor Rick Perry is putting together for August 6 at Houston’s Reliant Stadium. It is being called, “The Response,” and it will be a massive rally to call the nation to seek God’s guidance through prayer to deal with the economic and moral crisis facing America. Perry has invited the nation’s 49 other Governors to attend, and is partnering with the American Family Association in organizing the event. Perry said in a statement:

    “Fellow Americans,

    Right now, America is in crisis: we have been besieged by financial debt, terrorism, and a multitude of natural disasters. As a nation, we must come together and call upon Jesus to guide us through unprecedented struggles, and thank Him for the blessings of freedom we so richly enjoy.

    Some problems are beyond our power to solve, and according to the Book of Joel, Chapter 2, this historic hour demands a historic response. Therefore, on August 6, thousands will gather to pray for a historic breakthrough for our country and a renewed sense of moral purpose.

    I sincerely hope you’ll join me in Houston on August 6th and take your place in Reliant Stadium with praying people asking God’s forgiveness, wisdom and provision for our state and nation. There is hope for America. It lies in heaven, and we will find it on our knees.

    Sincerely,

    Rick Perry
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 08:31:22 am »

I'd like to see WHAT pastors he invites to this event - if people like Joel Osteen(who's in Houston) et al are invited to lead prayers et al, then Perry may have sinister intentions.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 09:40:05 am »

Atheist Group Files Suit to Block Texas Governor's Prayer Rally


An atheist-agnostic group filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday in an effort to block Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s upcoming prayer rally next month.

The Madison, Wis.-based group Freedom From Religion Foundation called the prayer rally unconstitutional, saying it violates the Establishment Clause “by giving the appearance that the government prefers evangelical Christian religious beliefs over other religious beliefs and non-beliefs…”

Perry is partnering with the American Family Association and other faith groups to hold “The Response: A Call to Prayer for a Nation in Crisis” at Houston’s Reliant Stadium on Aug. 6.

"Right now, America is in crisis: we have been besieged by financial debt, terrorism, and a multitude of natural disasters,” reads the letter from Perry posted on the event’s website. “As a nation, we must come together and call upon Jesus to guide us through unprecedented struggles, and thank Him for the blessings of freedom we so richly enjoy."

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 10:30:48 am »

Atheist Group Files Suit to Block Texas Governor's Prayer Rally


An atheist-agnostic group filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday in an effort to block Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s upcoming prayer rally next month.

The Madison, Wis.-based group Freedom From Religion Foundation called the prayer rally unconstitutional, saying it violates the Establishment Clause “by giving the appearance that the government prefers evangelical Christian religious beliefs over other religious beliefs and non-beliefs…”

Perry is partnering with the American Family Association and other faith groups to hold “The Response: A Call to Prayer for a Nation in Crisis” at Houston’s Reliant Stadium on Aug. 6.

"Right now, America is in crisis: we have been besieged by financial debt, terrorism, and a multitude of natural disasters,” reads the letter from Perry posted on the event’s website. “As a nation, we must come together and call upon Jesus to guide us through unprecedented struggles, and thank Him for the blessings of freedom we so richly enjoy."

rest: http://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-group-files-suit-to-block-texas-governors-prayer-rally-52274/

FYI - Brannon House on his radio show last week said that this so-called "prayer" event will have all kinds of heretics...from David Barton to a Roman Catholic Priest to Richard Land to liberal women preachers to pretty much everyone involved in the ecumenical movement.

If this so-called "athiest" group bothered to do their research...*sigh*
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 03:31:43 pm »

Lawsuit: Prayer rally promotes 'rabid Christian agenda'

An atheist organization is suing Texas Governor Rick Perry, a possible presidential candidate, for initiating a private prayer event scheduled for August 6 in Houston.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation is suing in federal court over Perry's upcoming prayer event that is sponsored and promoted by the American Family Association (AFA). The press release states that the pro-family group "promotes a rabid evangelical Christian agenda that is hostile to nonbelievers, non-Christians and other protected groups, such as gays and lesbians."

"It's amazing to me that they've never sued President Obama for ending any speeches with 'God bless you' or doing other things of a religious nature," notes Hiram Sasser, director of litigation for Liberty Institute. "It's as if these separationists don't understand that even our elected officials are still citizens of this country and enjoy the vast freedoms that are provided by the Constitution."

The August 6 rally is a private event, and Sasser argues that the governor's decision is his personal business.

"This is tantamount to a lawsuit declaring Governor Perry is unable to attend church on Sundays," he decides. "It's the most outrageous thing I've ever seen."

The Liberty Institute litigation director adds that he cannot imagine a federal judge buying the idea that the Constitution upholds banning a governor from participating in a private prayer rally. But he points out that the atheist organization is known for filing lawsuits that "fail at the courthouse."

 

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WORLDVIEW WEEKEND NEWS: GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, RICK PERRY BASES CALL FOR NATIONAL PRAYER ON JOEL’S ARMY CULT?
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https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

Rick Perry's Army of God

A little-known movement of radical Christians and self-proclaimed prophets wants to infiltrate government, and Rick Perry might be their man.

On this day, the Lord’s messengers arrived in the form of two Texas pastors, Tom Schlueter of Arlington and Bob Long of San Marcos, who called on Perry in the governor’s office inside the state Capitol. Schlueter and Long both oversee small congregations, but they are more than just pastors. They consider themselves modern-day apostles and prophets, blessed with the same gifts as Old Testament prophets or New Testament apostles.

The pastors told Perry of God’s grand plan for Texas. A chain of powerful prophecies had proclaimed that Texas was “The Prophet State,” anointed by God to lead the United States into revival and Godly government. And the governor would have a special role.

The day before the meeting, Schlueter had received a prophetic message from Chuck Pierce, an influential prophet from Denton, Texas. God had apparently commanded Schlueter—through Pierce—to “pray by lifting the hand of the one I show you that is in the place of civil rule.”

Gov. Perry, it seemed.

Schlueter had prayed before his congregation: “Lord Jesus I bring to you today Gov. Perry. ... I am just bringing you his hand and I pray Lord that he will grasp ahold of it. For if he does you will use him mightily.”

And grasp ahold the governor did. At the end of their meeting, Perry asked the two pastors to pray over him. As the pastors would later recount, the Lord spoke prophetically as Schlueter laid his hands on Perry, their heads bowed before a painting of the Battle of the Alamo. Schlueter “declared over [Perry] that there was a leadership role beyond Texas and that Texas had a role beyond what people understand,” Long later told his congregation.

So you have to wonder: Is Rick Perry God’s man for president?

Schlueter, Long and other prayer warriors in a little-known but increasingly influential movement at the periphery of American Christianity seem to think so. The movement is called the New Apostolic Reformation. Believers fashion themselves modern-day prophets and apostles. They have taken Pentecostalism, with its emphasis on ecstatic worship and the supernatural, and given it an adrenaline shot.

The movement’s top prophets and apostles believe they have a direct line to God. Through them, they say, He communicates specific instructions and warnings. When mankind fails to heed the prophecies, the results can be catastrophic: earthquakes in Japan, terrorist attacks in New York, and economic collapse. On the other hand, they believe their God-given decrees have ended mad cow disease in Germany and produced rain in drought-stricken Texas.

Their beliefs can tend toward the bizarre. Some consider Freemasonry a “demonic stronghold” tantamount to witchcraft. The Democratic Party, one prominent member believes, is controlled by Jezebel and three lesser demons. Some prophets even claim to have seen demons at public meetings. They’ve taken biblical literalism to an extreme. In Texas, they engage in elaborate ceremonies involving branding irons, plumb lines and stakes inscribed with biblical passages driven into the earth of every Texas county.

If they simply professed unusual beliefs, movement leaders wouldn’t be remarkable. But what makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government. The new prophets and apostles believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take “dominion” over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the “Seven Mountains” of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an “army of God” to commandeer civilian government.

In Rick Perry, they may have found their vessel. And the interest appears to be mutual.

 

In all the media attention surrounding Perry’s flirtation with a run for the presidency, the governor’s budding relationship with the leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation movement has largely escaped notice. But perhaps not for long. Perry has given self-proclaimed prophets and apostles leading roles in The Response, a much-publicized Christians-only prayer rally that Perry is organizing at Houston’s Reliant Stadium on Aug. 6.

The Response has engendered widespread criticism of its deliberate blurring of church and state and for the involvement of the American Family Association, labeled a “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its leadership’s homophobic and anti-Muslim statements. But it’s the involvement of New Apostolic leaders that’s more telling about Perry’s convictions and campaign strategy.

Eight members of The Response “leadership team” are affiliated with the New Apostolic Reformation movement. They’re employed or associated with groups like TheCall or the International House of Prayer (IHOP), Kansas City-based organizations at the forefront of the movement. The long list of The Response’s official endorsers—posted on the event’s website—reads like a Who’s Who of the apostolic-prophetic crowd, including movement founder C. Peter Wagner.

In a recent interview with the Observer, Schlueter explained that The Response is divinely inspired. “The government of our nation was basically founded on biblical principles,” he says. “When you have a governmental leader call a time of fasting and prayer, I believe that there has been a significant shift in our understanding as far as who is ultimately in charge of our nation—which we believe God is.”

Perry certainly knows how to speak the language of the new apostles. The genesis of The Response, Perry says, comes from the Book of Joel, an obscure slice of the Old Testament that’s popular with the apostolic crowd.

“With the economy in trouble, communities in crisis and people adrift in a sea of moral relativism, we need God's help,” Perry says in a video message on The Response website. “That's why I'm calling on Americans to pray and fast like Jesus did and as God called the Israelites to do in the Book of Joel.”

The reference to Joel likely wasn’t lost on Perry’s target audience. Prominent movement leaders strike the same note. Lou Engle, who runs TheCall, told a Dallas-area Assemblies of God congregation in April that “His answer in times of crisis is Joel 2.”

Mike Bickle, a jock-turned-pastor who runs the International House of Prayer in Kansas City, a sort of command headquarters and university for young End Times enthusiasts, taught a 12-part series on Joel last year.

The Book of Joel describes a crippling drought and economic crisis—sound familiar?—in the land of Judah. The calamities, in Joel’s time and ours, are “sent by God to cause a wicked, oppressive, and rebellious nation to repent,” Bickle told his students.

To secure God's blessing, Joel commands the people to gather in “sacred assembly” to pray, fast, and repent.

More ominously, Bickle teaches that Joel is an “instruction manual” for the imminent End Times. It is “essential to help equip people to be prepared for the unique dynamics occurring in the years leading up to Jesus’ return,” he has said.

The views espoused by Bickle, Engle and other movement leaders occupy the radical fringe of Christian fundamentalism. Their beliefs may seem bizarre even to many conservative evangelicals. Yet Perry has a knack for finding the forefront of conservative grassroots. Prayer warriors, apostles and prophets are filled with righteous energy and an increasing appetite for power in the secular political world. Their zeal and affiliation with charismatic independent churches, the fastest-growing subset of American Christianity, offers obvious benefits for Perry if he runs for president.   

There are enormous political risks, too. Mainstream voters may be put off by the movement’s extreme views or discomfited by talk of self-proclaimed prophets “infiltrating” government.

Catherine Frazier, a spokesperson for the governor’s office, wouldn’t respond to specific questions but wrote in an email, “The Response event is about coming together in prayer to seek wisdom and guidance from God to the challenges that confront our nation. That is where the governor's focus is, and he welcomes those that wish to join him in this common cause.”

For the moment, Perry’s relationship with the New Apostles is little known. Few in Texas GOP circles say they’ve ever heard of them. “I wish I could help you,” said Steve Munisteri, the state Republican Party chair. “I’ve never even heard of that movement.”

“For the most part I don't know them,” said Cathie Adams, former head of the Texas Eagle Forum and a veteran conservative activist.

Nonetheless, Perry may be counting on apostles and prophets to help propel him to the White House. And they hope Perry will lead them out of the wilderness into the promised land.

Listen closely to Perry’s recent public statements and you’ll occasionally hear him uttering New Apostle code words. In June, Perry defended himself against Texas critics on Fox News, telling host Neil Cavuto that “a prophet is generally not loved in their hometown.”

It seemed an odd comment. It’s the rare politician who compares himself to a prophet, and many viewers likely passed it off as a flub. But to the members of a radical new Christian movement, the remark made perfect sense.

 

The phrase “New Apostolic Reformation” comes from the movement’s intellectual godfather, C. Peter Wagner, who has called it, a bit vaingloriously, “the most radical change in the way of doing Christianity since the Protestant Reformation.”

Boasting aside, Wagner is an important figure in evangelical circles. He helped formulate the “church growth” model, a blueprint for worship that helped spawn modern mega-churches and international missions. In the 1990s, he turned away from the humdrum business of “harvesting souls” in mega-churches and embarked on a more revolutionary project.

He began promoting the notion that God is raising up modern-day prophets and apostles vested with extraordinary authority to bring about social transformation and usher in the Kingdom of God.

In 2006, Wagner published Apostles Today: Biblical Government for Biblical Power, in which he declared a “Second Apostolic Age.” The first age had occurred after Jesus’ biblical resurrection, when his apostles traveled Christendom spreading the gospel. Commissioned by Jesus himself, the 12 apostles acted as His agents. The second apostolic age, Wagner announced, began “around the year 2001.”

“Apostles,” he wrote, “are the generals in the army of God.”

One of the primary tasks of the new prophets and apostles is to hear God’s will and then act on it. Sometimes this means changing the world supernaturally. Wagner tells of the time in October 2001 when, at a huge prayer conference in Germany, he “decreed that mad cow disease would come to an end in Europe and the UK.” As it turned out, the last reported case of human mad cow disease had occurred the day before. “I am not implying that I have any inherent supernatural power,” Wagner wrote. “I am implying that when apostles hear the word of God clearly and when they decree His will, history can change.”

Claims of such powers are rife among Wagner’s followers. Cindy Jacobs—a self-described “respected prophet” and Wagner protégée who runs a Dallas-area group called Generals International—claims to have predicted the recent earthquakes in Japan. “God had warned us that shaking was coming,” she wrote in Charisma magazine, an organ for the movement. “This doesn’t mean that it was His desire for it to happen, but more of the biblical fulfillment that He doesn’t do anything without first warning through His servants.”

There is, of course, a corollary to these predictive abilities: Horrible things happen when advice goes unheeded.

Last year Jacobs warned that if America didn’t return to biblical values and support Israel, God would cause a “tumbling of the economy and dark days will come,” according to Charisma. To drive the point home, Jacobs and other right-wing allies—including The Response organizers Lou Engle and California pastor Jim Garlow—organized a 40-day “Pray and Act” effort in the lead-up to the 2010 elections.

Unlike other radical religious groups, the New Apostles believe political activism is part of their divine mission. “Whereas their spiritual forefathers in the Pentecostal movement would have eschewed involvement in politics, the New Apostles believe they have a divine mandate to rescue a decaying American society,” said Margaret Poloma, a practicing Pentecostal and professor of sociology at the University of Akron. “Their apostolic vision is to usher in the Kingdom of God.”

“Where does God stop and they begin?” she asks. “I don't think they know the difference.”

Poloma is one of the few academics who has closely studied the apostolic movement. It’s largely escaped notice, in part, because it lacks the traditional structures of either politics or religion, says Rachel Tabachnick, a researcher who has covered the movement extensively for Talk2Action.org, a left-leaning site that covers the religious right.

“It’s fairly recent and it just doesn’t fit into people’s pre-conceived notions,” she says. “They can’t get their head around something that isn’t denominational.”

The movement operates through a loose but interlocking array of churches, ministries, councils and seminaries—many of them in Texas. But mostly it holds together through the friendships and alliances of its prophets and apostles.

The Response itself seems patterned on TheCall, day-long worship and prayer rallies usually laced with anti-gay and anti-abortion messages.  TheCall—also the name of a Kansas City-based organization—is led by Lou Engle, an apostle who looks a bit like Mr. Magoo and has the unnerving habit of rocking back and forth while shouting at his audience in a raspy voice. (Engle is also closely associated with the International House of Prayer—, Mike Bickle’s 24/7 prayer center in Kansas City.) Engle frequently mobilizes his followers in the service of earthly causes, holding raucous prayer events in California to help pass Prop 8, the anti-gay marriage initiative, and making an appearance in Uganda last year to lend aid to those trying to pass a law that would have imposed the death penalty on homosexuals. But Engle's larger aim is Christian control of government.

“The church’s vocation is to rule history with God,” he has said. “We are called into the very image of the Trinity himself, that we are to be His friends and partners for world dominion.”

“It sounds so fringe but yet it’s not fringe,” Tabachnick says. “They’ve been working with Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Sam Brownback, and now Rick Perry. ... They are becoming much more politically noticeable.”

Some of the fiercest critics of the New Apostolic Reformation come from within the Pentecostal and charismatic world. The Assemblies of God Church, the largest organized Pentecostal denomination, specifically repudiated self-proclaimed prophets and apostles in 2000, calling their creed a “deviant teaching” that could rapidly “become dictatorial, presumptuous, and carnal.”

Assemblies authorities also rejected the notion that the church is supposed to assume dominion over earthly institutions, labeling it “unscriptural triumphalism.”

The New Apostles talk about taking dominion over American society in pastoral terms. They refer to the “Seven Mountains” of society: family, religion, arts and entertainment, media, government, education, and business. These are the nerve centers of society that God (or his people) must control.

Asked about the meaning of the Seven Mountains, Schlueter says, “God's kingdom just can’t be expressed on Sunday morning for two hours. God’s kingdom has to be expressed in media and government and education. It’s not like our goal is to have a Bible on every child’s desk. That’s not the goal. The goal is to hopefully have everyone acknowledge that God’s in charge of us regardless.”

But climbing those mountains sounds a little more specific on Sunday mornings. Schlueter has bragged to his congregation of meetings with Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, state Sen. Brian Birdwell, and the Arlington City Council. He recently told a church in Victoria that state Rep. Phil King, a conservative Republican from Weatherford, had allowed him to use King’s office at the Capitol to make calls and organize.

“We’re going to influence it,” Schlueter told his congregation. “We’re going to infiltrate it, not run from it. I know why God’s doing what he’s doing ... He’s just simply saying, ‘Tom I’ve given you authority in a governmental authority, and I need you to infiltrate the governmental mountain. Just do it, it’s no big deal.’ I was talking with [a member of the congregation] the other day. She’s going to start infiltrating. A very simple process. She’s going to join the Republican Party, start going to all their meetings. Some [members] are already doing that.”

 

Doug Stringer, a relatively low-profile apostle, is one of the movement’s more complex figures—and one of the few people associated with The Response who returned my calls. His assignment for The Response: mobilizing the faithful from around the nation. Though he's friendly with the governor and spoke at the state GOP convention, Stringer says he’s a political independent, “morally conservative” but with a “heart for social justice.”

Stringer runs Somebody Cares America, a nonprofit combining evangelism with charitable assistance to the indigent and victims of natural disasters. In 2009, Perry recognized Stringer in his State of the State address for his role in providing aid to Texans devastated by Hurricane Ike.

Stringer’s message is that The Response will be apolitical, non-partisan, even ecumenical. The goal, he says, is to “pray for personal repentance and corporate repentance on behalf of the church, not against anybody else.”

I ask him about his involvement with the Texas Apostolic Prayer Network, which is overseen by Schlueter. Six of the nine people listed as network “advisors” are involved in The Response, including Stringer, Cindy Jacobs and Waco pastor Ramiro Peña. The Texas group is part of a larger 50-state network of prophets, apostles and prayer intercessors called the Heartland Apostolic Network, which itself overlaps with the Reformation Prayer Network run by Jacobs. The Texas Apostolic Prayer Network is further subdivided into sixteen regions, each with its own director.

Some of these groups’ beliefs and activities will be startling, even to many conservative evangelicals. For example, in 2010 Texas prayer warriors visited every Masonic lodge in the state attempting to cast out the demon Baal, whom they believe controls Freemasonry. At each site, the warriors read a decree—written in legalese—divorcing Baal from the “People of God” and recited a lengthy prayer referring to Freemasonry as “witchcraft.”

Asked whether he shares these views, Stringer launches into a long treatise about secrecy during which he manages to lump together Mormonism, Freemasonry and college fraternities.

“I think there has been a lot of damage and polarization over decades because of the influence of some areas of Freemasonry that have been corrupted,” he says. “In fact, if you look at the original founder of the Mormon Church, Joseph Smith, he had a huge influence by Masonry. Bottom-line, anything that is so secretive that has to be hidden in darkness ... is not biblical. The Bible says that everything needs to be brought to the light. That’s why I would never be part of a fraternity, like on campus.”

 

Why would Perry throw in with this crowd?

One possible answer is that he’s an opportunistic politician running for president who’s trying to get right, if not with Jesus, with a particular slice of the GOP base.

Perry himself may have the gift of foresight. He seems preternaturally capable of spotting The Next Big Thing and positioning himself as an authentic leader of grassroots movements before they overtake other politicians. Think of the prescient way he hitched his political future to the Tea Party. In 2009 Perry spoke at a Tax Day protest and infamously flirted with Texas secession. At the time it seemed crazy. In retrospect it seems brilliant.

Now, he’s made common cause with increasingly influential fundamentalists from the bleeding fringe of American Christianity at a time when the political influence of mainstream evangelicals seems to be fading.

For decades evangelicals have been key to Republican presidential victories, but much has changed since George W. Bush named Jesus as his favorite philosopher at an Iowa debate during the 2000 presidential campaign. There is much turbulence among evangelicals. There’s no undisputed leader, a Jerry Falwell or a Pat Robertson, to bring the “tribes”—to use Stringer’s phrase—together. So you go where the momentum is. There is palpable excitement in the prayer movement and among the New Apostles that the nation is on the cusp of a major spiritual and political revival.

“On an exciting note, we are in the beginning stages of the Third Great Awakening,” Jacobs told Trinity Church in Cedar Hill earlier this year. (Trinity’s pastor, Jim Hennesy, is also an apostle and endorser of The Response. Trinity is probably best known for its annual Halloween “Hell House” that tries to scare teens into accepting Jesus.) “We are seeing revivals pop up all over the United States. ... Fires are breaking out all over the place. And we are going to see great things happening.”

Moreover, various media outlets have documented a possible coalescing of religious-right leaders around Perry’s candidacy. Time magazine reported on a June conference call among major evangelical leaders, including religious historian David Barton and San Antonio pastor John Hagee, in which they “agreed that Rick Perry would be their preferred candidate if he entered the race,” according to the magazine.

Journalist Tabachnick says politicians are attracted to the apostolic movement because of the valuable organizational structure and databases the leadership has built.

“I believe it’s because they’ve built such a tremendous communication network,” she says, pointing to the 50-state prayer networks plugged into churches and ministries. “They found ways to work that didn’t involve the institutional structures that many denominations have. They don’t have big offices, headquarters. They work more like a political campaign.”

But if the apostles present a broad organizing opportunity, the political risks for Perry are equally large.

In 2008 GOP nominee John McCain was forced to reject Hagee’s endorsement after media scrutiny of the pastor’s anti-Catholic comments. Similarly, Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign nearly fell apart when voters saw video of controversial sermons by the candidate’s pastor, Jeremiah Wright. If anything, Perry is venturing even further into the spiritual wilderness. The faith of the New Apostles will be unfamiliar, strange, and scary to many Americans.

Consider Alice Patterson. She’s in charge of mobilizing churches in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma for The Response. A field director for the Texas Christian Coalition in the 1990s, she’s now a significant figure in apostolic circles and runs a San Antonio-based organization called Justice at the Gate.

Patterson, citing teachings by Cindy Jacobs, Chuck Pierce and Lou Engle, has written that the Democratic Party is controlled by “an invisible network of evil comprising an unholy structure” unleashed by the biblical figure Jezebel.

Patterson claims to have seen demons with her own eyes. In 2009, at a prophetic meeting in Houston, Patterson says she saw the figure of Jezebel and “saw Jezebel’s skirt lifted to expose tiny Baal, Asherah, and a few other spirits. There they were—small, cowering, trembling little spirits that were only ankle high on Jezebel’s skinny legs.”

Those revelations are contained in Patterson’s 2010 book Bridging the Racial and Political Divide: How Godly Politics Can Transform a Nation. Patterson’s aim, as she makes clear in her book, is getting black and brown evangelicals to vote Republican and support conservative causes. A major emphasis among the New Apostles is racial reconciliation and recruitment of minorities and women. The apostolic prayer networks often perform elaborate ceremonies in which participants dress up in historical garb and repent for racial sins.

The formula—overcoming racism to achieve multiracial fundamentalism—has caught on in the apostolic movement. Some term the approach the “Rainbow Right,” and in fact The Response has a high quotient of African-Americans, Latinos and Asian-Americans in leadership positions.

Lou Engle, for example, is making a big push to recruit black activists into the anti-abortion ranks. “We’re looking for the new breed of black prophets to arise and forgive us our baggage,” he said at Trinity Assemblies of God, “and then lead us out of victimization and into the healing of a nation, to stop the shedding of innocent blood.”

Rick Perry is a white southern conservative male who may end up running against a black president. It doesn’t take a prophet to see that he could use friends like these.

There’s one other possible reason for Perry’s flirtation with the apostles, and it has nothing to do with politics. He could be a true believer.

Perry has never been shy about proclaiming his faith. He was raised a Methodist and still occasionally attends Austin’s genteel Tarrytown United Methodist Church. But according to an October 2010 story in the Austin American-Statesman, he now spends more Sundays at West Austin’s Lake Hills Church, a non-denominational evangelical church that features a rock band and pop-culture references. The more effusive approach to religion clearly appealed to Perry. “They dunk,” Perry told the American-Statesman. “Methodists sprinkle.”

Still, attending an evangelical church is a long way from believing in modern-day apostles and demons in plain sight. Could Perry actually buy into this stuff?

He’s certainly convinced the movement’s leaders. “He’s a very deep man of faith and I know that sometimes causes problems for people because they think he’s making decisions based on his faith,” Schlueter says. He pauses a beat. “Well, I hope so.”

But the danger of associating with extremists is apparent even to Schlueter, the man who took God’s message to Perry in September 2009. “It could be political suicide to do what he’s doing,” Schlueter says. “Man, this is the last thing he’d want to do if it were concerning a presidential bid. It could be very risky.”

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amazing... All these people come out of the Kansas outpouring, which is an off shoot from the Toronto Blessing. wow. lets look at some of these nut jobs not mentioned in the above article. well 1 is, C. Peter Wagner, he endorses Todd Bentley. Nuff said on the whole movement and this whole crowd based on that 1 comment alone. If Rick Perry endorses Bentley than that is all you need to know.

Here is you average, and i do mean average leader form the Kansas group of devils.

John Crowder, now this guy is literately demon possessed, and exalts it.


and this is the standard in this movement. oy yoy yoy...  Huh

Do not look at this movement as Christian. This movement is what was at Corinth before the arrival of Paul. All of their practices are the same as was taught at the pagan temple in Corinth. They follow and do the exact same things.

Todd Bentley kicking people in the face revival!
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That is how these people believe and operate. Kicking people with their bicker boots.  Huh seriously this is the Kansas outpouring people. They are all like this to one extreme or another. and you really have to wonder about a politician that mixes himself up with these kind of people.  This is deception, false spirits and devil worship to the extreme.

another great video exposing this whole movement is TEXE MARRS The Blind & The Dead. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1309655344938122063

Yes its Texe Marrs, but this is a great vid that exposes this whole movement.
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Judge Allows Gov. Perry to Attend Prayer Event

A federal judge has tossed out a lawsuit challenging Texas Gov. Rick Perry's participation in a national prayer rally set for Aug. 6.

The lawsuit filed by Kay Staley and the Freedom from Religion Foundation claimed the governor's call for prayer and his participation in the prayer rally violated the First Amendment and the Establishment Clause.

The plaintiffs did not want to stop the prayer event -- called "The Response" -- from happening. But they wanted the courts to ban Perry from promoting or participating in the rally.

Thursday, U.S. District Judge Gray H. Miller dismissed the case, saying neither Staley nor the atheist organization had standing in the case.

"We are pleased with the court's ruling, and Gov. Perry looks forward to participating in a day of prayer for our nation," Perry's spokesman Mark Miner told ABC News in an e-mail.

Judge Miller compared Perry's case to the 7th Circuit Court ruling allowing President Barack Obama to promote the National Day of Prayer.

Liberty Institute argued in court Thursday on behalf of the American Family Association, the group planning "The Response."

"The judge rightly dismissed this case and the national prayer event will go on as planned. This was an attack on the First Amendment rights of every American, and it failed miserably," said Liberty Institute president and CEO Kelly Shackelford.

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Gov. Perry Rally Excludes Other Faiths

Some religious leaders have expressed their concerns about Texas Gov. Rick Perry's prayer rally scheduled for Saturday in Houston.

The prayer event, called The Response, will be held at Reliant Stadium.

More than 50 Houston area religious and community leaders signed a statement drafted by the Anti-Defamation League, complaining that the rally will not be open to all faiths.

The statement says that by hosting the event, Perry is making an official endorsement of one faith and excluding others.

The ADL statement followed a June letter from the Houston Clergy Council that criticized the governor for excluding non-Christians, partnering with an anti-gay group, and blurring boundaries between church and state.

"Governor Perry has a constitutional duty to treat all Texans equally, regardless of race, religion or ethnicity," the ADL said in its statement. "His official involvement with The Response, at minimum, violates the spirit of that duty."

Signatories include Rabbi Samuel E. Karff, rabbi emeritus of congregation Beth Israel; Shaikh Omar Inshanally, head clergy of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston; the Rev. Lisa Hunt, rector of St. Stephen's Episcopal Church; and Rev. William A. Lawson, pastor emeritus of Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church.

Perry has invited President Obama, the nation's governors and Texas lawmakers to attend the prayer event.

Only 8,000 RSVPs have been received for the event which will be held in a stadium that seats 71,500 people, according to the Associated Press.

Response spokesman Eric Bearse told the Houston Chronicle Tuesday that two nationally known religious figures serving as co-chairs of the event, Dr. James Dobson and Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, will help lead the gathering in prayer and worship.

Dobson hosts the daily radio program, "Family Talk with Dr. James Dobson," while Rodriguez is president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.

Bearse said "several thousand people" have registered, indicating they will attend, and more than a thousand churches and individuals have signed up to simulcast the event in their local communities.

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Doesn't the Catholic Bishop that's coming of ANOTHER faith? Or how about Mike Bickle of IHOP? Or how about John "The Jews have a free ride to heaven" Hagee? Or how about SBC member Richard Land of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS? Or how about David "We need to elect Republicans to get this country back on the Christian track" Barton?

This is starting to become a comedy of errors...
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Doesn't the Catholic Bishop that's coming of ANOTHER faith? Or how about Mike Bickle of IHOP? Or how about John "The Jews have a free ride to heaven" Hagee? Or how about SBC member Richard Land of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS? Or how about David "We need to elect Republicans to get this country back on the Christian track" Barton?

This is starting to become a comedy of errors...

im thinking the other religions want to attend. You know the new-agers, witches like, Amazon, wiccans, talmud worshipers, mormons, muslims, stuff like that. A big interfaith prayer event. could still happen.....
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Prayer rally is still a work in progress
Lineup hasn’t been finalized, and Perry’s role could shift


Two days before several thousand Christians are scheduled to stream into Reliant Stadium for a day of prayer and fasting on behalf of the nation, organizers still are not releasing the full lineup of program participants and the man who initiated the event seems to be backing away from a prominent role.

When Gov. Rick Perry announced "The Response," in tandem with some of the nation's most conservative preachers and organizations, the accompanying spotlight seemed tailor-made for a presidential candidate-in-waiting, particularly a Republican candidate who must negotiate GOP primaries and caucuses dominated by Religious Right voters.

More recently, however, the spotlight has shifted to the extreme views of those affiliated with the event, including the American Family Association and a contingent of religious leaders with far-right political ties. The governor's role seems to have shifted.

Eric Bearse, the spokesman for the event and one of its organizers, insists the governor is just as supportive as when he invited Christian believers, fellow governors and other elected officials to come to Houston and pray for God's help with the nation's problems.

"Governor Perry is very excited about this event and fully embraces what it is about," Bearse said. "He believes people of various denominations and differences praying together will create a spirit of unity. And he believes God's presence will be palpable."

Bearse said the governor's office is evaluating how it would like to handle Perry's involvement. The governor's office did not return a call for comment Wednesday.



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Perry to evangelicals: I'm one of you

HOUSTON (AP) — Texas Gov. Rick Perry sent a strong message to the nation's evangelicals Saturday: he is a member of the important constituency for Republicans that he soon may call upon to help him secure the GOP presidential nomination.

The state's longest serving governor hosted what he called a national day of prayer, an event at Reliant Arena that drew roughly 30,000 people and that was broadcast on cable Christian channels and the Internet nationwide, including in at least 1,000 churches.

"Father, our heart breaks for America," Perry said in 12 minutes of remarks that included prayer and Bible passages — but no direct mention of politics or his presidential plans. "We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government and, as a nation, we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us."

He asked Christians to turn to God for answers to the nation's troubles, and asked the audience to pray for President Barack Obama — though he did not use the Democratic incumbent's name — as well as for the American troops killed in the weekend attack on a U.S. helicopter in Afghanistan.

The moment gave Perry a national spotlight before a pivotal voting group in the GOP nomination fight — in the early voting states of Iowa and South Carolina in particular — as he nears a decision on whether to run for president. His entrance into the field could shake up the contest because Perry could attract both social and economic conservatives at a time when the GOP electorate is unsettled with the current slate of candidates. Many have been campaigning for months and are trying to break out of the pack.

As Perry held court in Houston, for instance, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann were holding multiple campaign events each day in Iowa ahead of next weekend's test vote, a straw poll that is a barometer for a campaign's organizational strength five months before the state's leadoff caucuses. Both have a lot riding on the outcome.

Perry has been talking with potential donors, GOP operatives and party leaders about a possible run. But he has been tightlipped about just when he would announce a decision, though he plans to visit at least one early-voting state — South Carolina — over the next week.

He plans to keep what aides say is a long-held commitment to headline a conservative conference in Charleston, S.C., on Aug. 13, as well as meet with activists in the state scheduled to host the South's first primary. The trip will put Perry in touch with voters and activists who would be influential to a Republican primary campaign, much like the Houston event Saturday did.

Ministers long have been a valuable constituency in the early nominating campaign, especially in Iowa, where they formed an influential network for 2008 candidate Mike Huckabee's caucus victory, and this year's candidates are trying to make inroads. Bachmann, for one, announced the endorsement of her by 100 Iowa clergy Friday; the tea party favorite meets regularly with pastors when she campaigns in Iowa.

Perry's audience Saturday was filled with people who sang with arms outstretched in prayer — and wept — as Christian groups played music on stage. And Perry, himself, huddled on the stage in a prayer circle with several ministers who helped lead the event. It was Perry's idea and was financed by the American Family Association, a Tupelo, Miss.-based group that opposes abortion and gay rights and believes that the First Amendment freedom of religion applies only to Christians.

"We feel that God moved on him to do this. It will be read by the enemy, the political enemy, as a tool to win votes," said Gwen Courkamp of Houston, who plans to vote for Perry if he runs for president.

The governor also earned high marks from attendee Justine Schaefer, who said: "He'd get my vote ... Today really impressed me. He showed that he's sensitive to the Lord's leading to have this."

Critics argued the event — called The Response — inappropriately blended politics and religion.

Perry insisted that the event had no political motivation, though he did say during his remarks: "We pray for our nation's leaders, Lord, for parents, for pastors, for the generals, for governors, that you would inspire them in these difficult times."

The other speakers focused primarily on prayer and redemption, though politics seeped in at times, tied to social issue policy. Dozens of people throughout the daylong event decried legalized abortion, while some also condemned gay marriage, although far fewer.

Protesters gathered outside the arena to condemn the event.

"The brand of Christianity being offered today is one of fear, and we want to let people know that God loves everyone, not to be afraid," said Dan DeLeon, a pastor from the United Church of Christ in College Station, who wore his robe in near-100-degree heat.

Rodney Hinds, who drove to Houston from Amarillo, waved a sign at traffic demanding "Pastor Perry Must Resign" and said: "He abused the power of his office by calling this event from his office as governor."

Whether that's true or not, this much is clear: Perry may have laid down a marker on Saturday with social conservatives that would allow him to enter the race as a candidate focused on jobs, but with credibility with values voters.

"He has the best record in the field on jobs, and doesn't have to get off message beefing up bona fides on social issues, since they are firmly established," said Mary Matalin, a former adviser during both Bush presidencies.

Given Texas' recent uptick in jobs, that combination could make Perry a potentially strong challenger to Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who leads in national polls, has business credentials but leaves cultural conservatives questioning his sincerity on their issues.



Texas Gov. Rick Perry bows his head as he leads a prayer at The Response, a call to prayer for a nation in crisis, Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011, in Houston. Perry attended the daylong prayer rally despite criticism that the event inappropriately mixes religion and politics. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Although the thing is too small in the picture posted above, it DOES look like Perry's "cross" has an occultic-look(ie-the Rosacrucians maybe?).
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FWIW, my mom commented to me about James Dobson this morning(he was in Houston for this event) over how he's a staunch fundamentalist. I commented back to her how Dobson is yoked with the Vatican, and how this "prayer event" in Houston was full of heretics. Her response was, "Don't hate and don't judge!".

I know we have to continue to defend the faith, but *sigh* why can't people see these "evangelicals" are trying to get the Christian masses to fight and entangle in this world system.
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FWIW, my mom commented to me about James Dobson this morning(he was in Houston for this event) over how he's a staunch fundamentalist. I commented back to her how Dobson is yoked with the Vatican, and how this "prayer event" in Houston was full of heretics. Her response was, "Don't hate and don't judge!".

I know we have to continue to defend the faith, but *sigh* why can't people see these "evangelicals" are trying to get the Christian masses to fight and entangle in this world system.


Yeah I agree Bornagain. Do you think they want Rick Perry as the next one in office - He would be a good one to deceive a lot of people, because they will think hes a Christian - Kind of like people thought Bush was  Roll Eyes

That's sad your mother doesn't want to see the truth. My mother is not even saved, because I asked her one time if she thought she was "born again," and she said "Probably not," and I tried to explain to her she was going to hell, and that she wouldn't go to heaven.

However she has this happy face as though everything will be okay when she dies, and thinks shes saved. I guess she thinks shes a good person - I am not sure, but as we know none are good, no not one.

Yeah there is a scripture that talks about a good soldier doesn't entangle himself in the affairs of this world.
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‘Bigoted,’ ‘theocratic’ Perry prayer event sparks massive anti-Christian media backlash

im thinking the other religions want to attend. You know the new-agers, witches like, Amazon, wiccans, talmud worshipers, mormons, muslims, stuff like that. A big interfaith prayer event. could still happen.....

Intended as a simple gathering to invoke God’s help for America, a high-profile Houston prayer rally hosted by Texas Gov. Rick Perry kicked a beehive of anti-Christian sentiment as media commentators slammed the event as bigoted, unconstitutional, and even akin to Nazi brainwashing tactics.

The Response, a non-denominational Christian event initiated by Gov. Perry and joined by cosponsors including the American Family Association (AFA), drew around 30,000 participants to Houston Saturday. There, the crowd followed a Biblical injunction to “gather together, repent of their sins, and pray to God to intervene on their behalf.”

“A historic crisis facing our nation and threatening our future demands a historic response from the church. We must, as a people, return to the faith and hope of our fathers,” states The Response’s web site.

Governor Perry, who is expected to announce his presidential bid on Saturday, bucked political correctness at the event in favor of wearing openly his Christian beliefs.

“Father, our heart breaks for America,” said Perry, as reported by the Associated Press. “We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government and, as a nation, we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us.”

The governor called on the crowd to pray for the nation and for President Obama, and was otherwise silent on political issues.

In the aftermath, critics lambasted the pro-life and pro-family event as “bigoted,” primarily due to the American Family Association’s (AFA) involvement, and too exclusive of other faiths because it called for prayer to Jesus.

At a counter-rally, state Rep. Garnet Coleman, D-Houston, called the prayer event “a narrow, theocratic view ... that says that people are not welcomed — that says that people are bad because of who they are.” A letter signed by several left-leaning local clergy also said the event was not “inclusive” enough and condemned the sponsorship of the AFA, “an organization labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.”

One ABC report suggested that “even some mainstream Christians are concerned” over the event, while quoting only prominent left-wing figures, as pointed out by NewsBusters.

Meanwhile, some commentators suggested that the event was problematic simply for being Christian.

In a commentary published by the Los Angeles Times, Lawrence M. Krauss wrote that, by associating Perry with Christianity, the “misguided day of prayer” should have done him more harm than good.

“Claiming affiliation with Christian values often guarantees immunity from serious public or media backlash, but it shouldn’t,” wrote Krauss.

“Not when that claim, once you get to the details, means that about 21 percent of the adult U.S. population ... are excluded from a quasi-governmental event that will, among other things, proclaim their eternal damnation.”

Writing for the Washington Post’s faith blog, Charles Haynes decided that the call to prayer was not unconstitutional, but still “raises serious questions about the governor’s commitment to represent all Texans.” “Perry’s ‘call to prayer’ may be legal, but that doesn’t make it right,” he concluded.

Others had harder words for the Texas governor: Clay Farris Naff of the Huffington Post argued that Perry’s event was both “violating the U.S. Constitution” and a plot to use the “dark side to prayer” to foment political upheaval in the mold of Nazism.

“The purpose of Rick Perry’s prayer rally is not to cure the nation’s ills, it is to build an American Volksgemeinschaft—a community of believers in a reactionary myth of America’s history and the Christian religion,” wrote Naff.

“The promoters of this myth scorn constitutional law, separation of church and state, science, minority rights, and most of all the principle of tolerance.”

But one conservative leader noted that invocations by government leaders are nothing new - 43 of 44 presidents have announced national days of prayer - and that it’s the critics of the event, not its organizers, whose views fall outside the American mainstream.

“The reality is, those who are speaking against this on the left are people who generally think that there should be no role of religious faith in any sort of public activity,” said Dan Klukowski of the Family Research Countil in an appearance on Fox News August 5.

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From: http://www.vdare.com/washington_watcher/110810_rick_perry.htm

August 10, 2011
Rick Perry—Another Texas Governor for Amnesty

By Washington Watcher

Texas governor Rick Perry is expected on Saturday to announce that he will be a candidate for the GOP nomination for President.

Perry is a ten-year Texas governor, but he was recruited for the GOP by Karl Rove only in 1989—remarkably, he served as Texas chairman of Al Gore’s campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination as recently as 1988. (Michael Dukakis won.)

A big question among the chattering class: will Perry remind voters too much of Bush. With the Tea Party Republicans, and the majority of Americans not eager to repeat the Bush presidency, there needs to be some difference between the two.

Well, there are some differences between the two. Bush was a New England transplant to Texas of blue blood roots, while Perry is a native Texan with some blue collar roots. Bush qualified his conservatism with the "compassionate" prefix, while Rick Perry has implicitly criticized the label by calling himself an unapologetic conservative. Evidently, there is bad blood between the Bushes and Perry.

According to the New York Times, "On government spending, immigration and education, Mr. Perry’s criticisms of Mr. Bush have given him cachet with conservatives, especially with Tea Party voters." [Perry Breaks with Fellow Texan: Bush, By Jim Rutenberg and Jeff Zeleny, July 5, 2011]

In the Huffington Post, Victoria M. DeFrancesco Soto argues that "The most striking difference between Perry and Bush is their relationship with Latinos". According to DeFrancesco Soto, Bush has "Latino Love," which Perry lacks. She explains "The key difference between Bush and Perry when it comes to the Latino population is in their immigration and Latino policy related stances." [Latino Love: Bush v. Perry, June 10, 2011]

DeSoto cites two measures that show Perry’s supposed anti-immigrant sentiments: his support for an anti-Sanctuary City measure and a voter ID law to prevent illegal aliens and other non-citizens from voting. The latter passed, while the former failed in the Republican-dominated legislature, apparently because of the objections of key GOP big business donors. It is unclear how much Perry really pushed for the bill.

Perry does deserve some credit for these stances. But they are the exceptions to his generally anti-enforcement and pro-amnesty record. Whatever the media (and Bushbot) perception, Perry in this respect is virtually indistinguishable from Bush.

I have criticized the Republican Party for failing to really take a solid position on ending birthright citizenship and or reducing legal immigration. However, it has shown significant improvement since the Bush years. The majority of Republican politicians are now

    against amnesty;

    in favor of E-Verify;

    for the border fence;

    Most of them will even come out in favor of Arizona’s SB 1070, when pressed.

Unfortunately, on all these issues, Perry comes out on the wrong side, causing Numbers USA to give him a D-.  And while many Republicans with questionable records seem to have flip-flopped in the right direction recently, Perry has actually reiterated support for many of his bad policies.

This, citing Texas’ “rich history with Mexico", Perry said enacting SB 1070, "would not be the right direction for Texas". He claimed that having police checking the status of suspected illegal aliens involves "taking them away from their existing law enforcement duties, which are critical to keeping citizens safe." (Apparently, having illegal aliens roam the state without fear of deportation also keeps citizens safe). [Texas Gov: Arizona Immigration Law 'Not Right' for Texas, Associated Press, April 29, 2010]

And that’s just on illegal immigration. On legal immigration, Perry is of course god-awful. He once said on a trip to Mexico that he supports "free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico." [U.S. Congress lacks 'maturity' to solve immigration, Perry says'; By Paul Kiernan, Associated Press, August 28, 2007]

When Perry was challenged by the Bush-backed “moderate” Republican Kay Bailey Hutchinson in the primary, she was easily able to campaign to his right on immigration. Thus Hutchinson called for E-Verify for all state employees (not much, but a start). Perry’s response:

"E-Verify would not make a hill of beans' difference when it comes to what's happening in America today. You secure the border first, then you can talk about how to identify individuals in an immigration situation."

[Hutchison says Texas state doesn't use E-Verify, Politifact, January 14, 2010]

Perry didn’t explain why we can’t prevent illegal aliens from getting taxpayer funded jobs ntil the border is secure. But in any case, he has opposed real border security as well. In 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act after 98% Senate Republicans and 97% of House Republicans and even the majority of Senate Democrats voted for the bill.  However, a year after the bill passed, Perry said at the aforementioned speech in Mexico City:

"We know how to deal with border security, and you don't do it by building a fence. You do it by putting boots on the ground; you do it by using the technology that's available ... and coordinating very highly with local, state and federal officials…But the idea that you're going to build a 1,200-mile wall ... is idiocy. It absolutely would not work."

Echoing Janet Napolitano, Perry added, "If you build a 40-foot wall, then the 42-foot ladder industry takes off."

In fact, of course, just as E-Verify and border security are not mutually exclusive, neither is a border fence and increased manpower and other technology. The purpose of the double layered border fence called for in the Secure Fence Act is that, with adequate "boots on the ground", you will catch the illegal aliens before they make it to the second fence. Illegal aliens may be able to use a 42 foot ladder to climb over a fence, but that will take a few minutes, by which time they should be caught on the way back down.

In 2006, Perry authored an op-ed on “comprehensive immigration reform” on the Gubernatorial website. Just like Barack Obama and George W. Bush, he said "neither amnesty nor mass deportation is the answer" and then went on to support amnesty, calling for "a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contributions without providing them citizenship status." [A better way to secure the border, December 14, 2006]

In 2010, Perry came out against Obama’s creeping administrative amnesty, telling Fox News "The idea that the administration unilaterally is going to be handing out citizenship to the United States is pretty offensive to people who stood in line for long periods of time to become citizens…so I think it’s a really bad idea." [Governor Rick Perry on the Report of a New Amnesty Plan for Illegals, Fox News Video, September 22, 2010]

But there are two things to keep in mind when looking at this quote. First, Perry did not say that Congress should not be giving amnesty. Secondly, he referred to Obama "handing out citizenship" and legal immigrants waiting "to become citizens"—but Obama’s proposed administrative amnesties would not give illegals citizenship; rather, they give them immunity from deportation.

Of course, Perry may have simply been ignorant of exactly what the Obama amnesty memos contained. But given his past calls for amnesty without citizenship, his wording is very suspect.

Perry’s support for amnesty without citizenship and voter ID laws may signal that he at least recognizes that illegal aliens are not "natural Republicans." He is probably hoping to have it both ways: cheap labor without the political costs to the Republicans.

But in some areas, Rick Perry actually took his own unique initiatives to undermine our immigration laws.

It was Rick Perry who proposed the Trans-Texas Corridor, better known as the NAFTA Superhighway, which would have created a road from Mexico to Oklahoma over which America did not have full sovereignty.

And back in 2001, Perry signed the first-ever state DREAM Act to give in state tuition to illegal aliens. Just this last July, in the early primary state of New Hampshire, he defended his decision, blustering "To punish these young Texans [=illegal aliens] for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about." [Perry gives first NH interview, By John DiStaso, Manchester Union Leader, July 24, 2011]

Of course, spending tax dollars to send illegal aliens to colleges, where they will benefit from anti-white Affirmative Action quotas, punishes American students and taxpayers.

(The Union Leader noted that Perry told them he did not support the federal DREAM Act, though there was no further elaboration.)

Rick Perry may claim to be an “unapologetic conservative”. But when it comes to immigration, like George W. Bush, he is an unapologetic supporter of amnesty, foreign workers, and lax enforcement.

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From: http://www.therightscoop.com/rick-perry-i-want-to-be-president/

Rick Perry: I want to be president

Posted by The Right Scoop on Aug 11, 2011 in Politics | 116 Comments

When Mark Halperin asks Perry if he wants to be president, Perry says the fact that they are having this interview means he does. Perry goes further to say that his decision to run for president was settled after a conversation with his wife over a month and a half ago. Before that he wanted no part of it. Now, he’s getting excited about it (via Time):

Perry’s gonna be a big player when he announces, as is Sarah Palin. In fact I expect both of them to dwarf everyone else out there eventually. Given that, let’s see who entices you more:

(Theres a poll there, and thats where it ends. Also a video of Rick Perry.)
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2011, 07:37:56 pm »

Worldview Weekend Radio with Brannon Howse

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worl...pisodeid=19370

Topic One:

Brannon begins with some comments on how some within the New Religious Right

have taken it upon themselves to e-mail and to write to some of his Worldview Weekend team members

and to inform them that they think Brannon is creating division within the Christian ranks with his remarks against The Response.


Brannon says division is a good thing when splitting over false doctrine and false teachers.


Topic Two: Best of with Mike Gendron


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Worldview Weekend Radio with Brannon Howse

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worl...pisodeid=19370

Topic One:

Brannon begins with some comments on how some within the New Religious Right

have taken it upon themselves to e-mail and to write to some of his Worldview Weekend team members

and to inform them that they think Brannon is creating division within the Christian ranks with his remarks against The Response.


Brannon says division is a good thing when splitting over false doctrine and false teachers.


Topic Two: Best of with Mike Gendron


http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worl...pisodeid=19370


My bad, bad links above...

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-radio/episode.php?episodeid=19370

Brannon Howse: Aired August 10, 2011
Topic One: Brannon begins with some comments on how some within the New Religious Right have taken it upon themselves to e-mail and to write to some of his Worldview Weekend team members and to inform them that they think Brannon is creating division within the Christian ranks with his remarks against The Response. Brannon says division is a good thing when splitting over false doctrine and false teachers. Topic Two: Best of with Mike Gendron

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We Are Change San Antonio activist, Abel Rodriguez, caught up with Gov. Rick Perry on the trail to ask about his Bilderberg attendence. Rick Perry told We Are Change San Antonio that he was not sure why Bilderberg is known for such secrecy; he claims he just spoke about energy and debated a woman about man-made global warming. (For the record, he previously stated that he attended the conference to speak about federalism.) He looks forward to talking to them about the system of federalism here in the United States, Perry press secretary Robert Black said. I guess to Perry, its just kind of a tea party for elitists. Only they likely prefer integrated unions over states in succession (perhaps they are prepared to manage both). Perry also denied any support for the North American Union agenda (an EU-like superstate), but did state support for NAFTA free trade.
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry Entering 2012 Race

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is about to shake up the 2012 race as he makes his candidacy official today in Charleston, S.C., almost nine months after the Texan vowed he was not interested in pursuing a presidential run.

Perry, the longest-serving governor in the country who has accounted for 37 percent of all jobs created since the recession, will use his announcement to set the agenda for his presidential bid, focusing heavily on the need to fix the economy.

"Our nation cannot and must not endure four more years of aimless foreign policy," Perry will say, according to prepared remarks. "We cannot and must not endure four more years of rising unemployment ... rising taxes ... rising debt ... and rising energy dependence on nations that intend us harm. It is time to get America working again."

Perry's announcement will come at the RedState Gathering, a convention of more than 300 conservative bloggers, before a backdrop of American flags. Portraits of President Ronald Reagan and President Theodore Roosevelt adorn the room, along with paintings of the Lincoln Memorial, Statue of Liberty and George Washington crossing the Delaware River with troops.

REST: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/texas-gov-rick-perry-enters-2012-race/story?id=14296696
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Christian BEWARE: Rick Perry, Governor of Texas, is a NEO-CON RINO.

This video will expose Perry's work for the North American Union, Texas Trans-corridor, violation of personal liberties and parental rights (mandated HPV Vaccine) and Perry's overall work as a servant of the New World Order. What's WORSE is Perry's pretended friendship with the "evangelical right". We show you his unedited prayer (that he read from a script) in which he does not pray in the Name of, nor does he mention by name, Jesus Christ. What is wrong with professing Christians today? How can so many who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ be such SUCKERS every election? Good questions...

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Rick Perry Worked For Al Gore And Other Facts! - YouTube

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A Texas Two-Step: When Rick Perry Backed Al Gore
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2081596,00.html
By Hilary Hylton / Austin Saturday, July 16, 2011

There's an inconvenient political truth for Texas Governor Rick Perry: he was his state's 1988 campaign chairman for then U.S. Senator Al Gore's first run at the presidency.

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Perry supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic presidential primaries as chairman of the Gore campaign in Texas.[16][17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry

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Rick Perry Was Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Chairman in 1988

Political observers have noted that Jon Huntsman is likely to take some flack from conservatives for having served as President Obama’s Ambassador to China until recently. But Huntsman isn’t the only prospective GOP candidate who has worked for a prominent Democratic politician in years past.

Rick Perry, who entered the Texas legislature as a Democrat in 1984, served as Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Chairman in the 1988 presidential campaign. Soon after the campaign, Perry switched parties and was elected Texas Agriculture Commissioner as a Republican in 1990. “Going through that (Gore experience) was part of what started me through the process of changing parties in 1989,” Perry later said. “I came to my senses.”

At a 1999 campaign event during his successful run for Texas Governor, a Dallas Morning News reporter asked Perry about his previous work for Al Gore. “I certainly got religion,” Perry said. “I think he’s gone to hell.” You can listen to an audio recording of the exchange here.

And while Gore was a moderate at the time on some issues (abortion, gun control, prayer in schools), he was already a committed environmentalist. 11 years before Perry chaired Gore’s presidential campaign in Texas, in 1976, Gore held the first Congressional hearings on climate change. Gore’s reputation on environmental issues was so solidified by 1988 that the first President Bush took to the habit of calling him ozone man.

Rick Perry prides himself on his anti-environmental credentials as Texas Governor. But if and when he decides to run for President, whether it is in the next few weeks or in 2016, he’ll undoubtedly have to explain all of this to the Republican base.

Update — The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Governor Perry has likely already decided he’s running:

    A Republican campaign veteran tells us that Texas Governor Rick Perry has decided to run for President, though the official word from Team Perry is still a definite maybe.

Interestingly, Perry’s apparent rationale for entering the race has to do with Romney’s flip-flop on climate change:

    Our normally reliable Republican source reports that Mr. Perry has surveyed the field and decided to get in the race later this summer, perhaps around the time of the national prayer meeting that Mr. Perry is hosting on August 6 at a Houston football stadium. Our source also reports that Mr. Perry is aiming to compete in the Iowa Straw Poll, even though it occurs just a week later, on August 13. The thinking is that apparent front-runner Mitt Romney “does not reflect the Republican Party” and is therefore vulnerable to a credible challenge from the right, especially after Mr. Romney’s recent squishy remarks on global warming.

http://www.enviroknow.com/2011/06/23/rick-perry-al-gore-1988/


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Debra Medina claims Rick Perry was a Democrat and Al Gore's campaign manager

GOP gubernatorial hopeful Debra Medina, a Wharton businesswoman, started a question to Gov. Rick Perry during Thursday night's GOP gubernatorial debate by pointing out he hasn't always been a Republican.

Medina said: "Governor, you were a Democrat, having worked for Al Gore as his campaign manager..."

The Gore-y chapter of Perry's political life hasn't come up in a while.

We decided to explore Medina's two-part claim.

Perry didn't — and couldn't — dispute Medina's reminder that he was once a Democrat. Perry, whose father was repeatedly elected as a Democrat to the Haskell County Commission, won his first election, to the Texas House in 1984, as a Democrat. He won re-election in 1986 and 1988 before switching parties to challenge Democratic Agricultural Commissioner Jim Hightower in 1990 — a race that Perry won in an upset.

In the debate, Perry didn't answer Medina's charge that he was Gore's campaign manager.

In fact, according to news accounts and Perry's campaign, Perry served as Gore's Texas campaign chairman in 1988.

What brought Perry to pitch in for Gore, whose candidacy washed out after he failed to do well outside his native South?

According to news reports at the time, many conservative Texas Democrats put stock in Gore’s campaign, among them former Gov. Dolph Briscoe and then-House Speaker Gib Lewis, who flew to Washington to endorse Gore.

Later, Perry said he found out Gore was far from a real conservative.

"Going through that (Gore experience) was part of what started me through the process of changing parties in 1989," Perry said. "I came to my senses."

In the Texas primary, Gore ran third to Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

Late last year, Perry revisited his disagreement with Gore over man’s impact on global warming. Suggesting he'd seen the light on the climate issue while Gore had drifted into darker territory, Perry joked: "I certainly got religion. I think he's gone to hell."

So the two won't be launching any new joint ventures.

But Medina correctly nudged Perry about his Democratic roots. And she was close to right about his Gore connection, though a visitor from another planet might read her statement to mean Perry was improbably Gore's national campaign manager. Instead, he was Gore's Texas chairman.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/jan/16/debra-medina/debra-medina-claims-rick-perry-was-democrat-and-al/
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Despite Bachmann’s success, the real GOP race is now Perry vs. Romney

By Beth Reinhard
National Journal

Until now, the biggest question looming over the 2012 Republican primary was who would emerge as the leading alternative to the nominal front-runner, Mitt Romney.

We now know the answer to that question: Rick Perry.

Sure, Perry jumped into the race only one day ago and needs to prove he's worthy of the national stage. Yes, Michele Bachmann is the one who boxed Tim Pawlenty out of the race with her triumph in the Iowa Straw Poll on Saturday.

But it is the governor of the great big state of Texas, not the Minnesota congresswoman, who poses the biggest threat to Romney from here on out. That's because Perry boasts that killer combination of assets: the power to grab hold of voters -- which Bachmann shares -- plus a concrete record of creating jobs. It's the rhetoric plus the results, the inspiration layered on top of the perspiration.

(RELATED: Governor Pawlenty vs. Candidate Pawlenty)

The void in Bachmann's resume was laid bare in Thursday's Fox News debate, when she cited the "Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act'' as one of her biggest accomplishments. In an interview on Sunday with CNN's Candy Crowley, all she could point to was her education reform agenda as a state lawmaker in Minnesota.

"The Republican nominee and the next president of the United States is going to be Rick Perry or Mitt Romney,'' said Fred Malek, a top Republican money man who ran George H.W. Bush's 1992 campaign. "Michele Bachmann has struck a real chord on the issues important to conservatives, but what we need is a governor with proven record of job creation, deficit reduction, and other accomplishments.''

A member of the House has not been crowned a party nominee since James Garfield in 1880. Bachmann's victory in a mock, Midwestern election dominated by the fringes of the Republican Party only served to highlight her narrow appeal. In contrast, both Perry and Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, have won statewide elections with Democratic and independent votes.

(RELATED: Obama's economy—or not?)

Mounting anger with President Obama over the economy's woes makes it unlikely that voters will take another chance on a crowd-rousing lawmaker who lacks executive experience.

"Republicans feel that if we lose the election, we lose the country,'' said Alex Castellanos, a Republican strategist for George W. Bush who advised Romney's 2008 campaign. "We are not going to nominate somebody who has no chance of winning enough votes to defeat Barack Obama.''

The Romney-Perry showdown seemed unlikely months ago, but came to the fore in recent weeks as Pawlenty continued to fizzle and Perry lined up donors and strategists. Pawlenty's exit on Sunday and Perry's announcement on Saturday just made the two-man race official.

Bachmann defeated Pawlenty because she managed to make him look weak, a feat she is unlikely to engineer with the swaggering three-term governor of Texas.

(RELATED: President Obama's path to reelection narrows)

As for the rest of the field, few people outside of Jon Huntsman's campaign can envision his path to the nomination. Ron Paul is a cult figure, not a party standard-bearer. Rick Santorum beat expectations in the straw poll, but his main role in the race has been to needle the other candidates.

The next potential watershed in the rapidly changing race will be the debate sponsored by NBC News and Politico in Simi Valley, Calif., the first time Perry will be lined up next to his rivals on national television. Two more debates in two weeks, both in Florida, will keep the candidates on their toes.

"The real question for Perry is how he adjusts to being an official presidential candidate, because it's unlike anything else,'' said Republican strategist Jim Dyke. "It exposes candidates in ways they couldn't have fathomed or trained for. It's something you can't teach.''

Romney has already started pivoting toward Perry in recent days, emphasizing his success as a corporate executive above all else. Perry can't point to experience in the private sector. While Romney would never have wished for a challenger as potentially formidable as Perry, he will be a much tougher nominee in the general election if he is able to defeat Perry, just as Obama was strengthened by his epic primary battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.

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FYI - I got this off of an internet message forum(the poster didn't post a link there)...

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Are any of you concerned by his Muslim connections, or his establishment of an Islamic studies curriculum in Texas schools?

"Islam of and by itself is one of the great religions, along with Christianity and Judaism." - Gov. Rick Perry Shocked

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From: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/20/7426856-perry-sticks-to-his-guns-on-controversial-comments

Perry sticks to his guns on controversial comments

By NBC's Carrie Dann and Ali Weinberg

After nearly a week without taking questions from the press, Gov. Rick Perry stood by controversial comments on global warming and U.S. monetary policy as he took a barrage of questions from reporters at the final event of his South Carolina swing.

He also defended his support of a Texas version of the DREAM act while invoking the 10th Amendment when he said it wouldn't work on a national level.

Perry, who earlier this week accused climate change scientists of manipulating information for financial gain, doubled down on his skepticism that manmade phenomena are affecting the world's climate.

"I just happen to believe that the earth's temperature has been moving up and down for millenniums now and there are enough scientists out there now that are skeptical about the reasons for it," he said. "And I happen to be one of those that are skeptical that for us to spend billions of dollars on a theory that is not proven and that you have skeptical science against that is not in America's best interest."

Asked to respond to a Politico story that quoted members of Congress made nervous by his statement Monday that the actions of Fed chairman Ben Bernanke have been "treasonous," Perry said he is simply "passionate" about the issue.

"I'm sorry if I offended a congressman but the fact of the matter is I'm about representing the American people out here. And the American people are really concerned and scared, small businessmen and women are frightened about the monetary policy or the lack thereof with this administration," he said.

Perry also answered a question from Telemundo's Vanessa Huac on  two immigration-related issues: Texas's version of the DREAM act (Perry allows children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition but opposes it on a national level) and his policy of allowing police officers to question people on their immigration status, although he said he didn't think Arizona's tough immigration law was right for Texas.

Huac said he had been "contradictory" in his immigration views and asked if he would support comprehensive immigration reform as president.

"Here's what you need to understand about me, please," Perry said. "I am a big believer in the tenth amendment. That state by state they need to make those decisions about how they're going to deal with issues of tuition, whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be and that state.

"The rest of these issues are the same. I happen to believe with all my heart that the states would be best served by being able to be free to make these decisions by themselves. Whether it's... I didn't think that for the state of Texas an Arizona exact law was right for state of Texas.

"So state by state ought to be the way to do that, not by the federal government one size fits all."

When Huac countered that the Constitution requires the federal government to regulate immigration, Perry said, "I didn't get to that issue, yes. Once we secure the border we can have a conversation about immigration reform in this country. But not until."

The Texas governor's remarks came after a brief meet-and-greet luncheon in Rock Hill, SC, where Perry addressed about 100 people face-to-face at the The Old Town Bistro with an additional 350 crowded into an overflow room.
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