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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2011, 07:31:27 pm »

Soul Sleep Is A Lie. At least the title to this thread is correct. Cheesy

you need to be careful lest you lead one astray.
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2011, 02:53:08 am »

currently? no, no one is in hell yet as judgment hasnt happened yet. hades is a special place and yes it will be tossed into the lake of fire. When did i say no one was ever in Abrahams Bosom? I said no one is there now.

If you were to die right now, your very next experience is either the rapture or judgment. no way around this, no matter how hard you try. you can call it what you will, but that is what will happen. Judgment or the rapture.   

What I meant, Mark, was I know you said no one is there now, but that insinuates that at some point someone was, and if so, who?  If any person, at any time, then wouldn't that mean that they hadn't slept? And if that is so, where are they now?  Did they die...go to Abraham's Bosom and then go back to sleep at some point?  I don't see that in scripture.
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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2011, 05:58:01 am »

What I meant, Mark, was I know you said no one is there now, but that insinuates that at some point someone was, and if so, who?  If any person, at any time, then wouldn't that mean that they hadn't slept? And if that is so, where are they now?  Did they die...go to Abraham's Bosom and then go back to sleep at some point?  I don't see that in scripture.

Abrahams bosom had people in it and still does on one side of the chasm. But after the Lords resurection those people are no longer there. Now, when people die they either go straight to Judgment or to the rapture. Now when Jesus returns, im not to sure what happens.

Before Jesus died you went to either one side of Abrahams bosom, after Jesus death, its either Rapture or Judgment, after the Lords return, not to sure on.

Now as for the other side of the chasm, it has many differnet names for the differnt comparments. either way, if you end up here than your bound for the HELL the lake of fire.
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2011, 01:09:40 pm »

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 7And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

 8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

 9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

 10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

 11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


I would have to ask those who believe in soul sleep how the above scripture is so.  We could justify that these are either any and all martyrs throughout the history of the world, (as they await the deaths of their “fellow servants…to…be killed as they were), or they are the Tribulation saints who have been martyred; either way (as who they are is not what I am debating)…they are not asleep in the grave, but are in heaven with God. 

It is also not at the end of time for we know that a new heaven and earth will be made and God will dwell with men at that time, there will be no more death and therefore no one waiting for anyone else to be martyred.  This is in heaven, before Christ's return and these are those who have been martyred...not in the grave sleeping, they are instead crying out to the Lord about 'avenging their blood' on those who 'dwell upon the earth'.




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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2014, 12:51:55 pm »

That is also after the Rapture. The Lord already came and received his own to himself. These people are killed after the Rapture.

Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

As you can see in this verse, Jesus says he goes to prepare a place for us, and that he will come again first and receive us. He will come and get us, not us going up to him. But after the Rapture the Lord already came for his own, so these souls are killed after the Rapture. Not before.
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