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« on: June 17, 2011, 10:04:02 pm »

     

FM: PA's UN bid – end of Oslo Accords

Meeting with EU foreign policy chief, foreign minister claims 'chances of renewing negotiations are slim, ball is in PA's court'

Ronen Medzini
Published:    06.17.11, 11:19 / Israel News
   
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman was pessimistic Friday over the chances of renewing the peace negotiations with the Palestinians, should they forge ahead with their unilateral motion for international recognition in the UN, in September.

In a meeting with European Union Foreign Policy Chief Catherine Ashton, Lieberman said that "the meaning of any unilateral move by the Palestinians in the UN is an end to the Oslo Accords".

According to Lieberman "such a move would be a gross breach of all the agreements signed up to this day and Israel will no longer be committed to agreements signed with the Palestinians in the last 18 years."

will this be the peace treaty that Daniel says will be confirmed by the a/c?  curious!

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4083458,00.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 06:44:33 am »

I am not fully up to speed on the fine print of the Oslo Accord and am trying to understand this situation.  It sounds as if the Oslo Accord gave Palestinians a temporary hand over their present location and people, in the hopes for a future negotiated peace with Israel.  If they move out of this temporary position (and its guidelines) to finalize their petition to join the UN, then Israel will be free from those guidelines, as will they.

Is the fear in both being free that Israel will then re-adjust borders, building and settlements?  Do critics feel it will actually bring about more trepidation and war, with Palestinians then being recognized, meaning they can then retaliate in a more profound and deliberate way?

Thoughts on this would be appreciated, until then I am reading up.

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 07:13:55 pm »

I think the end plan here is to make Palestine an official state with the 1967 borders and to not recognize Israel as a state at all. From what I have been reading the is the subtle ( sometime forthright) plans most of the world has.
Israel will stand alone and the Temple Mount will be the PRIZE   ( just my understanding and interpretation) I am sure there are other here with far more knowledge on this subject.)
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 11:24:40 am »

I think the end plan here is to make Palestine an official state with the 1967 borders and to not recognize Israel as a state at all. From what I have been reading the is the subtle ( sometime forthright) plans most of the world has.
Israel will stand alone and the Temple Mount will be the PRIZE   ( just my understanding and interpretation) I am sure there are other here with far more knowledge on this subject.)

Interesting that you state "not recognize Israel at all".  It never really dawned on me that Israel is not a recognized state. (or is it?)  This came to mind when I was looking at a site map and noticed that Israeli cities and their names were not present, yet on the another they are.  The one on the left is the RSOE Emergency disaster & emergency site, the other a google map:

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 06:20:23 pm »

the map you are looking at is a new map, I believe it was made by the EU and some other alphabet soup parties. I will look up  the info to let you know.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 06:40:39 pm »

wrong, it wasn't the EU, it was Egypt Air

Egypt Air removes Israel from map

Jordan stretches to sea in online map by Egypt's largest airline, though it continues to fly to Israel

Yoav Zitun
Published:    03.23.11, 09:20 / Israel News
   
Egypt Air, the largest airline in Egypt, has removed Israel from the map – literally. On its website, Ynet has learned, Jordan's land reaches the Mediterranean Sea.
 
The airline's subsidiary, Air Sinai, flies to Israel regularly, but customers seeking flights to Ben Gurion National Airport will have a hard time finding them. On the map are the names of the Mideast capitals – Amman, Beirut, and Damascus – but Israel is nowhere to be found. 

Jordan stretches to sea in online map

Egypt Air is the first large airline to have omitted the state from its map of destinations. Other airlines based in Muslim countries, such as Turkish Airlines and Royal Jordanian, include Israel and Tel Aviv on its maps.

The omission is especially odd seeing as the company continues to fly to Israel four times a week. Cairo-Tel Aviv flights were temporarily halted following the recent uprising that overturned the government, but were then reinstated.

 
There has also been an increase in passengers on Air Sinai's flights. According to the Airports Authority, the airline saw an increase of 27% in 2010 from the year previous.


also:No recognition or diplomatic relations
Countries that do not recognise the state of Israel

Israel has no diplomatic relations with 36 UN member states, 20 of the members of the 22-member Arab League, while majority of the remaining states are Muslim majority countries. Some of the countries, with which Israel has no diplomatic relations, accept Israeli passports and acknowledge other Israeli marks of sovereignty.

Israel has no diplomatic relations with the following states and entities (period of former relations marked in brackets):

    Africa: Algeria, Chad (1960–1972), Comoros, Djibouti, Guinea (1959–1967), Libya, Mali (1960–1973), Morocco (1994–2000), Mauritania[4] (1999–2009), Niger (1960–1973, 1996–2002), Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia[1] (1996-2000).
    Americas: Bolivia[5] (1950–2009), Cuba[6] (1950–1973), Nicaragua [7](1948–1982, 1992–2010), Venezuela[8] (1950–2009).
    East Asia: North Korea.[9]
    Middle East: Bahrain (1996–2000), Iran (1948–1951, 1953–1979), Iraq, Lebanon, Kuwait, Oman (1996–2000), Qatar[4] (1996–2009), Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen, United Arab Emirates.
    Oceania: Cook Islands, Niue
    South, Central Asia: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan,[10] Pakistan.
    Southeast Asia: Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia.
    Sovereign Military Order of Malta
    States with limited recognition: Abkhazia, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, Northern Cyprus, Palestine, Sahrawi Republic, Somaliland, South Ossetia, Republic of China (Taiwan), Transnistria

Tzipi Livni shaking hands with Salam Fayyad, 2008

On January 14, 2009, Bolivia and Venezuela suspended diplomatic ties with Israel, and on January 16, 2009, Qatar suspended economic ties after Bashar al-Assad and Khaled Meshaal called on all Arab states to break ties with the Jewish state in the wake of the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict. On March 6, 2009, the Israeli diplomatic delegation to Mauritania left after nine years of diplomatic ties, following a demand from the Mauritanian authorities to close the Israeli embassy in Nouakchott within 48 hours.[11] The Mauritanian delegation to Israel left earlier without sending official notice to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.[12] In September 2009, the Maldives restored diplomatic relations with Israel, 15 years suspending them.[13] On June 2, 2010 Nicaragua suspended diplomatic ties with Israel in response to the Gaza flotilla raid.[14]

The following 22 UN member states do not recognize Israel as a state: Afghanistan,[15] Algeria,[16] Bahrain[17] Bangladesh,[18] Brunei,[citation needed] Chad,[19] Cuba,[20] Indonesia,[20][18][21] Iran,[22] Iraq,[23] Kuwait,[20] Lebanon,[20] Libya,[24] Malaysia,[20][18][21] North Korea,[20] Pakistan,[20] Saudi Arabia,[20] Somalia,[25][26][27] Sudan,[20] Syria,[20][28] United Arab Emirates[29] and Yemen.[20]

Non UN-member states: The Republic of China (Taiwan) recognizes Israel, but does not officially conduct relations (though there are "unofficial relations") due to Israel's recognition of the People's Republic of China. The Sahrawi Republic does not recognise Israel.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Israel
 
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