Message #29463

[Mark]

Have You heard of this new sermon? i think he addresses this here:

I did listen to that one, and it has nothing to do with Romans 13, but is in fact a call to keep flags and crosses in his church. Apparently someone told him that the cross is a pagan symbol predating Christ and this is his refutation on that and why he keeps such things in his church.

This sermon is a more of his republican guns and god kick he is on. Its pure churchianity in my opinion. He actually refutes his whole Romans 13 sermon in his Watchman Broadcast for 12/30/12, god and guns part 2. In that watchman video, not a sermon as the Pastor of his church, he goes 100% get your gun for Obama is coming to get it, and we don't need to follow Romans 13.

He finally gives the proper use and understanding of Romans 13. Though this flies completely in the face of everything he said in his official sermon on Romans 13. He did not once make an apology, or a refutation of that sermon. Just went on like nobody has ever heard it, and that this was his position the whole time. To which it wasn't.

He also dropped Alex Jones name a LOT. Wasn't expecting that. But still of this is his position NOW on Romans 13, than he needs to explain why he says one thing to his Church as a Pastor, and another to everybody else. You cannot serve 2 masters and you cannot speak out of both sides of your mouth.

With that being said i liked a lot of what he had to say in his 2 parts of God and guns. I was going to post the 2 parts in the Sandy shooting thread. I didnt because it flies in the face of what he has preached from the pulpit. Maybe Aussie Micha can ask him why his opinions change with the times?

Here are the 2 broadcasts.

God, Guns and Liberty Part 1
http://watchmanvideobroadcast.com/video/wvb121223_god-guns-liberty-01.html

Watchman Video Broadcast 12-30-12, God, Guns and Liberty Part 2
http://blip.tv/watchmanvideo/watchman-video-broadcast-12-30-12-god-guns-and-liberty-part-2-6489792?utm

also found here: http://mikehoggard.com/

It took over a year and a half, and for Obama to make a grab for guns for Pastor Hoggard to make a change on his stance of Romans 13. Why did it take this measure, a grab for guns, to make this change? He could have came out at anytime after his Sermon and made a declaration. There wa no reason to wait a year and a half and in the middle of a political upheaval.

Also, i dont see him not giving his weapons up when they come for them. Jesus said to flee, i dont see Pastor Hoggard as the survivalist type of guy when things go down. But do not worry, if your a member of his church, he will protect you. He needs to give a full account of his stance, not saying one thing and than saying something else. We call everyone else on this stuff.