Message #32796

[Psalm 51:17]

I'm not sure what to think, i cant think of any agenda that Hoggard would have in disproving eternal security or promotion of works salvation.

Bryan Delinger said he is going to do an exposure of Mike Hoggard some time in the future and he mentioned that eternal security as one of the issues he was going to bring up.

Yeah, saw that in one of his recent videos - he said it's just a warning, and not an expose of a heretic or anything. I also didn't know Hoggard was backtracking on his pre-trib rapture beliefs.

Anyhow, he was bringing up verses in Hebrews talking about perserverence that is a required part of salvation/eternal security. This being one of them...

Heb 3:14  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

1) When one reads this verse, one can automatically think that we can't have any kind of backsliding or wavering at all until the end of our lives(or the rapture/2nd Coming), right? But that is NOT what it means, especially considering the passage in Romans 7 where Paul preaches about the lusts of his flesh warring against the Spirit. 2) One has to be patient and CONTINUE reading to see what it means. So here's the REST of the passage...

Heb 3:15  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
Heb 3:16  For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
Heb 3:17  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18  And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Heb 3:19  So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Now what does the last verse say? Should sum it up right there. They couldn't be partakers of Christ b/c of their UNBELIEF, period. Again, PATIENCE when reading the scriptures.