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« on: June 29, 2011, 08:30:02 am »

Disclaimer: the Jesus-Is-Savior.com site is an excellent site for KJV info.

With that being said, aside from this article exposing his crimes, at the same time, I also found this web site in error b/c 1) It's anti-Israel, 2) They promote Henry Makow's writings(ie-Makow is supposedly a Jew, but he's married to a Roman Catholic, and promotes this Protocols of Zion propaganda), and 3) It goes WAY overboard trying to label Jack Chick(of Chick Tracks) a false teacher.

Also, another side note - just b/c someone is KJV-only doesn't necessarily mean they bear good fruit. See Eric Phelps, Mike Hoggard, and Arnold Murray as prime examples.

http://davidjstewartexposed.blogspot.com/

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David J. Stewart Pleads Guilty to Child Abuse
 
 
Posted by Seek the Truth on January 31, 2011 / Labels: adultery, child abuse, evidence cover-up, jesus is savior, people vs. david john stewart, sexual conduct indictment /
BREAKING NEWS

We originally posted an article on July 28, 2009 that detailed the criminal sexual conduct charges against David J. Stewart. While there are MANY who are grateful to us for bringing this information to light and exposing David Stewart's dishonest and hypocritical behavior, there are some who doubt the charges against David are true.

New information directly from Maria T. Cenzon, Director of Policy Planning and Community Relations at the Guam Judicial Center, confirms that the information we originally presented to you is entirely true.

Of special note are the new details about the case. In addition to the charges against David J. Stewart for 2nd Degree Criminal Sexual Conduct as a 1st Degree Felony, David Stewart was also charged with child abuse as a misdemeanor. He denied the initial charges but later pled guilty to child abuse as part of a plea agreement.

Below is the text of the e-mail from Ms. Cenzon that provides the confirmation and the current information about David J. Stewart's ongoing legal proceedings. We have provided it in this format so that the text would be searchable by the search engines for easy public access. We have also included a screen shot of the original e-mail below as well:


From: Maria T. Cenzon [mailto:mcenzon@mail.justice.gov.gu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:03 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Amando D. Quitoriano (C&M)
Subject: RE: David John Stewart


Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxx


According to public records on file with the Superior Court of Guam, Mr. Stewart was charged with 2nd Degree Criminal Sexual Conduct as a 1st Degree Felony.  He was also charged with Child Abuse as a Misdemeanor.  He initially pled not guilty, but later entered into a plea agreement, pleading guilty to Child Abuse on October 29, 2010.  The terms of the judgment include a fine of $100; 2 years supervised probation; 100 hours of community service; stay away from victim; not threaten/strike/injure the victim; report to Client Services for counseling; report to Dept of Mental Health and Substance Abuse; Turn in passport; not leave Guam; comply with court orders; obey all laws of Guam. 


He has a progress hearing scheduled for February 14, 2011 at 9 a.m. before the Honorable Judge Anita Sukola. 


Regards,


Maria Teresa B. Cenzon
Director of Policy Planning
  & Community Relations
Judiciary of GuamGuam Judicial Center
120 West O’Brien Drive
Hagatna, Guam 96910
Tel: 671.475-3278Fax: 671.477-3184
Email: mcenzon@mail.justice.gov.gu

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From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:11 PM
To: Maria T. Cenzon (DPP & CR)
Subject: FW: David John Stewart

Ms. Cenzon,


I was wondering if it is possible to find out any public information regarding a David John Stewart who was charged in 2009 on charges of second-degree criminal sexual conduct as a first-degree felony?


Reference:  CF0032-09 People vs. David John Stewart
Thank you for your time regarding this inquiry.



 
Screenshot of Guam Judicial Center e-mail
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Note that Ms. Cenzon states the date and time of David J. Stewart's next progress hearing which is set for February 14, 2011 at 9:00am. The schedule for the Superior Court of Guam is publicly posted and shows hearings approximately one day before their scheduled time (for U.S. visitors) and the same day if viewing the schedule from Guam. On February 11, 2011, David Stewart's hearing will appear on the schedule for U.S. visitors. Here's how to view the schedule prior to the hearing date:


1.Visit http://www.guamcourts.org/SuperiorCourtCalendar/calendar.aspx
2.In the "Select a Judge" dropdown, select SUKOLA, ANITA A. and click "Show Calendar"
3.Browse the list for David's hearing (is visible as of 2/11/11 and should be until 2/13/11 in U.S.)

UPDATE 2-11-14:
Here is the screenshot of the Superior Court of Guam schedule for February 14, 2011 which serves as further proof of the charges against David. Note that the information on the schedule (case number, date, time, judge, etc.) exactly matches the information provided by Ms. Cenzon in the above e-mail:

 
David J. Stewart's Superior Court of Guam Hearing for 2-14-11
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This information regarding CF0032-09 People vs. David John Stewart is publicly available via the Superior Court of Guam, according to Ms. Cenzon. Nothing we have shared here in this article or in prior articles is private or restricted information.

The information provided by the Superior Court of Guam confirms several things:


•The charges we initially reported about David John Stewart are true
•David Stewart does indeed still live on Guam (David J. Stewart previously removed information from his web site that confirms his location as Guam)
•David J. Stewart is DECEIVING YOU
David Stewart has consistently ignored the information we have presented up until now, choosing to make it appear that it has never happened. He had removed all evidence from www.jesus-is-savior.com that confirms that he is the same David J. Stewart currently involved in the CF0032-09 People vs. David John Stewart case in Guam. David cannot hide, however, the publicly available evidence that is accessible via the Superior Court of Guam.


David Stewart claims to be a Christian and uses his web site to "preach" to the public about the evils of sexual immorality, adultery, etc. As this and previous articles show, he is being a hypocrite by doing the same things he preaches against and is trying to hide this information from you. He is in no position to be trying to teach the Word of God to the public. David falsely accuses many of deception yet he himself is a clear example of what deception truly looks like and how Satan can mix bits of truth with error to deceive the nations.


"For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light." Luke 8:17
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2011, 08:43:43 am »

I fully researched this 2 years ago. Even contacted the Guam Government, ( i still have the email's ), and no where is it verified that this is the same person. There is no pictures of this person and he is not in Guam's Sexual Predator data base. In fact the only real proof of this is from that guys blog, whom i have spoken with, and even he could not 100% verify this excerpt for his allegations.

Here is Guams sex Offender Registry. http://www.justice.gov.gu/sor/index.asp

No David J. Stewart.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 09:31:22 am »

Also, another side note - just b/c someone is KJV-only doesn't necessarily mean they bear good fruit. See ... Mike Hoggard,... as prime examples.
Is this in relation to submission to government?
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 10:11:53 am »

Is this in relation to submission to government?

No, just in general, that is - Eric Phelps's interpretation of doctrine is pretty wacky(ie-his racist views), and Arnold Murray will twist every scripture in the bible to make it look like the post-trib doctrine is true(ie-I happen to be post-trib myself, but nonetheless, it's the way Murray approaches everything).
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 10:14:39 am »

I fully researched this 2 years ago. Even contacted the Guam Government, ( i still have the email's ), and no where is it verified that this is the same person. There is no pictures of this person and he is not in Guam's Sexual Predator data base. In fact the only real proof of this is from that guys blog, whom i have spoken with, and even he could not 100% verify this excerpt for his allegations.

Here is Guams sex Offender Registry. http://www.justice.gov.gu/sor/index.asp

No David J. Stewart.

So this is all a HOAX?? I posted this b/c this link was in Scott's regular email over end times stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2011, 10:59:51 am »

Well, I take that back what I said about him in the OP - I may not agree with him on a couple of things, but ultimately, "we see through a glass darkly"...
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2011, 01:57:37 pm »

Man that "jesus-is-savior" website needs some serious re-organizing! Talk about "busy" visually. That's one of the worst looking websites I've ever seen.

As for who this David Stewart is, does anybody have a photo of him? Know his age or where he's from? Is he former US Navy, maybe stationed in NAS Jacksonville at one time?
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 02:28:12 pm »

Man that "jesus-is-savior" website needs some serious re-organizing! Talk about "busy" visually. That's one of the worst looking websites I've ever seen.

As for who this David Stewart is, does anybody have a photo of him? Know his age or where he's from? Is he former US Navy, maybe stationed in NAS Jacksonville at one time?

It's on this page:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/david_at_ypao-11_27_08.JPG
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 03:05:02 pm »

It maybe busy but it is a mine of useful info on deception-I have referred to it many times and its mostly good stuff-Not seen anything yet thats dodgy. Im wary...
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 04:54:47 am »


Thanks for the photo, but it doesn't help really. Where can I find maybe a bio on this guy? I want to know if he was in the Navy in the 80's and is from Houston. It does look like in that photo he's playing a guitar, which that's another bit of info I need.

I was stationed in the Navy with a David Stewart back in the 80's, who played guitar some, or at least was trying back then. We were roommates off-base with another guy.

Hmm.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 05:10:17 am »

David J Stewart is a genius, i think if they were going to get him it would be based on tax fraud or Biblically discipling his kids. Remember the false witnesses in the Bible.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 08:32:16 am »

Thanks for the photo, but it doesn't help really. Where can I find maybe a bio on this guy? I want to know if he was in the Navy in the 80's and is from Houston. It does look like in that photo he's playing a guitar, which that's another bit of info I need.

I was stationed in the Navy with a David Stewart back in the 80's, who played guitar some, or at least was trying back then. We were roommates off-base with another guy.

Hmm.

If you scroll to the bottom of this page http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/about_jesus_is_savior.htm it gives you a brief history of him and his family, nothing about the Navy though.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 01:17:39 pm »

Thanks, I saw that. Apparently he's not from Texas, so I guess it's not him.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 01:57:52 pm »

This guy has irritated someone-theres lots of stuff on his web site that would irritate.
I would find it really bizarre about the paedo stuff. Could he be being framed?
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 03:33:38 pm »

This guy has irritated someone-theres lots of stuff on his web site that would irritate.
I would find it really bizarre about the paedo stuff. Could he be being framed?

He's KJV-only - unsurprisingly, alot of the KJV-only people that run web site/youtube ministries get attacked.
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He's KJV-only - unsurprisingly, alot of the KJV-only people that run web site/youtube ministries get attacked.

From the information that David J Stewart presents it would make alot of people mad - especially Roman Catholics - he has alot to say there.
I'm not surprised that someone would want to destroy his credibility and website.

Remember Dr Johnson said that anyone that has helped him in his ministry have been attacked too.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 01:52:49 am »

 -  just wanted to reply to this thread, thats all. (sorry for pulling up a thread from July 2011)

 - i was reading a blog by David J Stewart, and out of intrest i wanted to know a little about him. upon Googling his name i came across a few blogs and web pages similar to the title of this thread.

 - the davidjstewartexposed blog as throrough as it is, appears to be anonymous, losing any credibility.

 - the other webpages i found seem to be pro-Catholicism.

 - http://www.youtube.com/user/DaveB11th <<< this page is of D.Stewarts and it in turn has a link to http://www.steelc6th.com/ << which features the photo of the guy on the beach.

 - i only mention this to help clarify some of the previous posts questions

 - in my opinion, the previous blogs mentioned appear to be smear campaigns against David J Stewart, judging by his own writings about Catholicism.

 - the links i provided were simply to help clarify and not to enable any further misgivings or anxiety. if my post appears obscene in any way, please delete it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 05:26:43 am »

I adjusted the title to better represent what is going on here. Agree this sounds like a Catholic tactic.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2013, 12:44:57 am »

I felt I have to reply to this thread. And before someone remarks that this thread is old and should not be updated, just remember the Bible is older than the Internet. And is continuously referenced.  Wink

I have followed the Jesus Is Savior website for several years. As well as many other ones. But I use these websites to supplement my daily studies. I enter as a skeptic and do not simply follow and believe everything I read. Especially if the information contradicts what I have already learned from the Bible. It's debatable to me what is listed on those websites. Nothing more than one man's perception that I may or may not consider to be TRUTH.

That said. Over time I have arrived at a conclusion about David J Stewart's articles. They are 90% Truth and 10% FALSE.

What does that essentially mean? It means that He has preached much Truth to promote a VERY important lie. False salvation. His information contradicts itself. Because I can read and agree with most of what he preaches. Yet, in the end, he arrives at a completely wrong interpretation of salvation which contradicts much of what he wrote beforehand. This is an assumption. But I have to wonder if he committed some kind of crime and has used "simple salvation" to live in denial. I don't know. I could be wrong about that. But the important thing here is that he has twisted the Truth. He condemns the practices of churches (which I agree with). But in the same breath promotes a salvation that runs alongside the same salvation as the churches.

Overall. It seems to me that the information on his website has more than enough Truth to grab hold of the reader and lead them. Right into the path of destruction by the end of the paragraph.

Clearly the work of Satan. Isn't it clever for Satan to accuse his own work of being in his own name?

Stewart improperly defines "works salvation" as separating ourselves from Sin. I agree that doing good deeds won't pay off on their own. But it is "how" we apply ourselves that counts. Such as, being one of GOD's hands that reach into people's lives for the sake of leading others away from destruction. We never take credit and we humble ourselves fully. Because without full humility, we stand in pride. And that allows no room for GOD's Will. There is a proactive stance to serving GOD. Life isn't about salvation. It is about realizing we aren't worthy of it. If GOD gives it, then it's a privilege. If He doesn't, then we never deserved it anyway. But a life of serving GOD proactively is worth far more to this world than indulging and lusting for our own sake. There is no in between!!

Stewart has a large hole in the TRUTH. And I think it is VERY important that anyone who reads his website needs to think very carefully at what they find there. Just because 4/5 is a good score. That doesn't mean that the 1 point that falls short won't send you to HELL. Jesus told us to follow full doctrine. Consider and prove all things. Satan rules this world. And society resembles NOTHING of what GOD intended in our life. And because Satan hates GOD and all His people, you can be assured that there will be NOTHING in a conforming society that will lead you to TRUTH. Churches have all conformed to society. All things we live and breath every day are of evil nature and lead us to pride, vanity, lust, and other evil unholy attributes.

If salvation was so simple, Satan wouldn't be working so hard to lead others to destruction. The Bible clearly tells us that the path to Heaven is narrow. The broad path is the popular one thay leads to destruction. Few will be saved. Why? Because it takes major sacrifice to give up this temptuous life. Jesus did so. He told us to. And nobody I know is doing it. Hence the reason. FEW WILL MAKE IT TO HEAVEN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARENT WILLING TO GIVE UP ENOUGH TO PROVE THEY DESERVE IT.


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If salvation was so simple, Satan wouldn't be working so hard to lead others to destruction. The Bible clearly tells us that the path to Heaven is narrow. The broad path is the popular one thay leads to destruction. Few will be saved. Why? Because it takes major sacrifice to give up this temptuous life. Jesus did so. He told us to. And nobody I know is doing it. Hence the reason. FEW WILL MAKE IT TO HEAVEN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARENT WILLING TO GIVE UP ENOUGH TO PROVE THEY DESERVE IT.

From the sounds of it, churchianity has led you astray. Salvation IS simple! Just believe. Add anything else to that and it's "work's" salvation.

"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." 2 Corinthians 11:3 (KJB)

And to say it takes "major sacrifice" is to set up people for a "work's" mentality. Remember, it is NOT about what we do beyond belief, so technically, we don't sacrifice anything other than putting off the "old man and his deeds", we simply believe in the name of Jesus Christ.

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FEW WILL MAKE IT TO HEAVEN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARENT WILLING TO GIVE UP ENOUGH TO PROVE THEY DESERVE IT.

No need to shout.

Especially stuff that is untrue. It isn't about what we give up!

People won't make it to heaven because of unbelief. That's it. There is no deserving of salvation. We deserve death!

"Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:" Romans 11:20 (KJB)
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From the sounds of it, churchianity has led you astray. Salvation IS simple! Just believe. Add anything else to that and it's "work's" salvation.

And to say it takes "major sacrifice" is to set up people for a "work's" mentality. Remember, it is NOT about what we do beyond belief, so technically, we don't sacrifice anything other than putting off the "old man and his deeds", we simply believe in the name of Jesus Christ.


I was about to post something in this thread, but this post caught my attention...

This, my brethren and sisters, is EASY BELIEVISM. Easy Believism all but REMOVES repentance out of the equation(which the "Lordship Salvation" proponents have been doing for quite some time now).

Matthew 9:12  But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Mat 9:13  But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


Matthew 3:8  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Mat 3:9  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.


Luke 3:7  Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Luk 3:8  Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance,
and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Luk 3:9  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.


Luk 24:47  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

**Preaching repentance of sins is a heresy? Uhm...Luke 24:47 says contrariwise!

Acts 20:20  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
Act 20:21  Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.


Like I said, I was going to post something here about Stewart I just read, but will do so later.


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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2015, 02:00:15 pm »

Quick question? As im a Gentile.  Grin

How do you compare these verses to what you said?

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


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Quick question? As im a Gentile.  Grin

How do you compare these verses to what you said?

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


Bryan Denlinger covered this in his videos. Read a couple of verses prior to Acts 16:31...

Acts 16:26  And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
Act 16:27  And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
Act 16:28  But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Act 16:29  Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Act 16:30  And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?


Repentance is not a work - when we repent, we do so with godly sorrow.

2 Corinthians 7:9  Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
2Co 7:10  For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11  For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.


Mark, I remember reading your testimony a few years ago(2011) - you detailed how you repented with godly sorrow as this passage says.

Like I said, my intent was to post something about David J. Stewart here(as I was reading something about him in a Jack Hyles expose now), but that last post caught my attention(which is why I couldn't help but respond to it).

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Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


FYI - this is a picture of repentance with godly sorrow, why? B/c remember the scriptures that say how out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. So yes, if you truely believeth, you WILL confess with your mouth.(thought I would add this)

The thing is that when you go through the scriptures, when the Apostles et al would preach to the lost, they would EXPOUND to them the scriptures. OTOH, this Easy Believism/Antinomianism movement nowdays only get like 2 or 3 scriptures, and try to convince the lost "Just believe...". It's not just Rick Warren doing this, but I'm seeing so-called Christian Apologetics one doing this trick tactic as well.

Acts 8:27  And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
Act 8:28  Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
Act 8:29  Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Act 8:30  And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Act 8:31  And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
Act 8:32  The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
Act 8:33  In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
Act 8:34  And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Act 8:35  Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Act 8:36  And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37  And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Act 8:38  And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act 8:39  And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2015, 02:28:45 pm »

just curious as to what you thought of those verses. In the verses leading up to Act 16:31 where was the guards repentance?  
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2015, 02:40:32 pm »

just curious as to what you thought of those verses. In the verses leading up to Act 16:31 where was the guards repentance?  

Acts 16:28  But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Act 16:29  Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,


Like I said, Bryan explained this in a few of his videos - look what it says in verse 29. No, I don't think he trembled b/c he was scared or anything.

James 4:6  But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Luke 18:13  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


Mark, like I was saying - I read your testimony 4 years ago, it sounded like you repented with a godly sorrow(when you were near-death on illegal drugs). But Praise God HE gave you salvation through our LORD Jesus Christ!

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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2015, 02:50:01 pm »

How does that show his repentance?  Your missing this part?

Act 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.

I dont see how his trembling is repentance? This guy was about to kill himself because he thought the people escaped. To which his life would have been forfeit anyways even though there was an earthquake. He fell down before Paul and Silas because he was glad they were still there.

Even afterward there is no repentance from the guard or his family.

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.


None zilch. Paul preached to the family, they were saved and baptized all with in an hour.
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How does that show his repentance?  Your missing this part?

Act 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.

I dont see how his trembling is repentance? This guy was about to kill himself because he thought the people escaped. To which his life would have been forfeit anyways even though there was an earthquake. He fell down before Paul and Silas because he was glad they were still there.

Even afterward there is no repentance from the guard or his family.

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.


None zilch. Paul preached to the family, they were saved and baptized all with in an hour.

This is what John Gill(an 18th century theologian) says about Acts 16:29...

http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/acts-16-29.html

Acts 16:29
Then he called for a light

Or "lights"; he ordered his servants to bring in some candles; the Syriac version renders it, "he lighted a light for himself"; and the Ethiopic version, "he brought a light": whilst he was under the influence of Satan, and going about a work of darkness, namely, to destroy himself, he was in no concern for a light; but when he was delivered from the temptation and snare, he calls for light:

and sprang in;
leaped in at once, in all haste, into the inner prison:

and came trembling;
not as before, because of the prisoners and their escape; nor merely or so much on account of the earthquake, though the terror of that might not be as yet over; but chiefly through the horror of his conscience, and the dreadful sense he had of himself as a sinner, and of his lost state and condition by nature; the law had entered into his conscience, and had worked wrath there; the Spirit of God had convinced him of his sin and misery, and there was a fearful looking for of fiery indignation in him:

and fell down before Paul and Silas;
not in a way of religious adoration, for they would never have admitted that; but in token of civil respect unto them, and of his great veneration for them, as was the manner of the eastern people; the Syriac version renders it, "he fell down at their feet", and so in Velesius's readings; at those feet, which he had before made fast in the stocks: a strange change and sudden alteration this! what is it that almighty power and efficacious grace cannot do?
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2015, 06:15:57 pm »

Just want to conclude with what I posted right above - when you compare scripture with scripture, you see that particular passage is talking about repentance. And yes, the NT Church Age epistles(and later Acts chapters) stress repentance to the Gentiles.

2 Corinthians 7:9  Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
2Co 7:10  For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11  For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.


So did Peter...

2 Peter 3:9  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Or how about Acts 26, which is speaking to the Gentiles too...

Acts 26:20  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

And Paul in Galatia says we use the law to bring people to Christ...(which is also repentance)

Galatians 3:24  Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Remember we posted Ray Comfort street videos here every now and then, where he was doing just that(preaching repentance, and preaching the law to bring people to Christ).
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2015, 05:21:26 am »

not seeing it in the word tremble. sorry.
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