David J. Stewart(Jesus-Is-Savior.com)

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not seeing it in the word tremble. sorry.

Are you saying repentance is not required in this NT Church Age of grace? Jack Chick stresses repentance in his tracts - didn't you say you use his tracts to distribute to others?

Also - look at verse 30 where the prisoner guard was the FIRST to ask Paul and Silas "What must I do to be saved?" - doesn't that sound like someone who comes in a truely repentant and contrite spirit?

Also - Simon the Sorcerer believed - remember a while back when we exposed how he was NOT saved?

[Mark]

Just what is repentance? explain that out. Then explain Rom 7:15 ?

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Just what is repentance? explain that out. Then explain Rom 7:15 ?

I sent you a pm, and posted something on the moderator's forum.

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Sorry I hijacked this thread the other day(I should have ignored that post from yesteryear I responded to).

Anyhow, was about to post this the other day, but will do so now. David J. Stewart is a graduate of (Jack)Hyles-Anderson bible college. I'm about 1/2 way done reading this e-book from David Cloud, but fornication and scandals just filled the Hyles-Anderson cult(from Jack himself, to family members, to faculty, to graduates, etc). Stewart himself really promotes Hyles on his web site, and acts as his apologist. And FWIW too, there may be a lot good on DJS's web site, but there's also a lot very, very bad(ie-he demonizes the Jews, and promotes stuff from non-Christians like Fritz Springmeier and Henry Mankow).

Steven Anderson was also groomed at Jack Hyles' bible college.

PDF pages 55-56
file:///C:/Users/Stephen/Downloads/hyles_effect_a_spreading_blight%20(1).pdf

Tere are many web sites devoted to Hyles. Te one
operated by Hyles-Anderson graduate David Stewart, for
example, calls Jack Hyles “one of the greatest men ever to
infuence America for righteousness and God” and “the
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world’s greatest preacher.” Stewart says that “Americans owe a
debt of gratitude which cannot be expressed in words to
Pastor Jack Hyles.” Having drunk the unquestioning loyalty
cool aid, Stewart likens Hyles’ critics to Hitler’s Nazi
propagandist Joseph Goebbels and claims that the “innocent”
Hyles was persecuted unjustly and “hated without a cause”
afer the same fashion as Jesus. Stewart makes the ridiculous
claim that “Hyles enemies have failed to prove any of the
malicious accusations against him ... there is not one shred of
proof of any of the evil allegations,” obviously never having
made the effort to examine the evidence.
And, typically, Stewart claims that those who “criticize”
Hyles are men who have never built anything of substance
and who merely attack Hyles out of jealousy. He says, “It’s
amazing how someone who has never built a hotdog-stand
will criticize a man who has built a great work for God.” Tis
is the bottom line for Hyles fans.
Stewart treats the reprovers of Hyles as the enemies of God.
He calls Hyles’ critics “a bunch of lazy, deadbeat ministers.”
He says “they’re slanderous individuals who dig and look for
anything (no matter how trife) to attack an innocent man.”
Tere is no reasoning with this type of blind obedience and
man worship. No amount of facts will convince someone like
this that his hero is wrong. In fact, a man like this won’t even
look at the facts. Nothing that could be said will convince this
man that Hyles’ “critics” were motivated by love for Christ
and truth.
Te late Dayton Hobbs rightly observed:
“When the Word of God in lives of men and women is
replaced by the cultish power of some preacher with a
super-ego, sound judgment is affected and all kinds of
weird and unscriptural things go on under the guise of the
work of the Lord” (Hobbs, “Te Personality Cult,” Te

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^^ from PDF pages 82-83

Te following are two of the many testimonies we could
offer to illustrate the Quick Prayerism that was practiced
under Hyles’ ministry:

“I was at Fairhaven Baptist Church and College
(Chesterton, Indiana, graduated in Spring 2000), and I saw
frsthand instances where people from Hyles' school would
come to where we had bus kids, go through the entire area,
gimmick them to a Saturday ‘church party,’ and baptize
them all to count them as ‘saved.’ It made me and my
fellow bus workers very angry! Tankfully, they would
then abandon them so that we could continue to take them
to church and teach them the gospel of repentance and
faith in Christ. Tere was one time that they did this in a
project we picked kids up in, and they baptized practically
everyone, except for one kid who we picked up regularly.

We asked this kid why he did not get baptized and he told
us that they had baptized him twice already and he did not
want to be baptized again. He did not understand the
gospel, so he was not born again. Anyway, I say all this to
say that I am in agreement with you about the souldamning
results of Hyles-Anderson methodology and
their anti-repentance theology.”

“I am also one of those converts of Jack Hyles’ bus ministry
back in 1981. I was in the Navy stationed at Great Lakes
NTC, when approached by two men from Hyles’ Church.
Tey ‘whizzed’ me through the Scriptures and kept asking,
‘Do you believe?’ I said ‘Yes’ out of politeness, but it was all
so fast. It seemed like we went through the salvation plan
in less than three minutes, then all the sudden we were
praying and I was told I was going to go to Heaven. Wow! I
felt like I had been dragged to salvation. I had no clue what
I had just agreed to! I even went to the church and was
baptized that Sunday. I don’t ever remember saying or
agreeing I should do this, but I found myself in this long
line of men being baptized. I remember saying to myself,
‘You better get baptized; you would not want to hurt
anyone’s feelings.’ It was all at a very manic pace.”

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