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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2012, 02:33:20 pm »

Don't make the mistake of mixing law with grace!

Regardless of sin, "it is appointed unto men once to die..."

I mean seriously, what don't you understand charrington? I'm not sure it can be said any clearer than what already has been said.

You apparently don't understand what sin is, or even how we are forgiven, and actually it seems you don't understand how we are saved.

Yeah, you and I have actually been over this many times and I actually think that very same thing of you Kilika - no offense meant - but there far too many scriptures that counter your beliefs in once saved and many other things you attest to. I know you cant see what I'm saying but it's only because you are not looking for truth because you think you have it. And don't take that the wrong way either because I'm in a similar position. A good many of the things you say are in my opinion completely backwards. So in effort to answer your question what I don't completely understand is how you can think what you do in spite of what is said in the Bible. The ransom is once and for all, IF you do has Jesus says to do - Other wise there is no ransom for you.

How many times did Jesus say it's the one that endures till the end that is saved? These all require more then just faith.


And the scripture is pertaining to all sin grace or not. Heb 10:26 -  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. End of story...


If you go back to the parable above and lets add another one to the list where Jesus himself is talking.

Matt 18:12-14 -  How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Here we see in this scripture that sheep, that is those that believe in Jesus can go astray, and we know he's talking about people who believe in him because just 8 verses before this, when he was talking about "these little ones" who are perishing he describes them as "little ones which believe in me". Matt 18:6.

It is therefore a fact that those that believe in him can go astray and be lost.

Anyway Kilika I know your position on the subject and you know mine I was actually looking to have a discussion with others not a blind argument over differences.
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