Message #5984

[Psalm 51:17]

For the record(and for the 1000th time), I'm post-trib. However, Darby did NOT get this pre-trib views from Margaret Macdonald. Here's why-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Macdonald_%28Prophecy%29

There have been a couple of attempts to locate a “source” for Darby's concept of the rapture. These attempts imply that Darby's concepts originated from a "false" (i.e. demonic) source. Samuel Tragelles alleged that John Nelson Darby's concept of the rapture was taken from one of the charismatic utterances in Edward Irving's church. Since Tregelles regarded the utterances as “pretending to be from God,” his implication is that Darby's rapture is from a demonic source. Dave MacPherson[1] built upon Tregelles' accusation, and claimed the source for Darby's rapture was from an utterance of Margaret MacDonald.[5] However, scholars think there are major obstacles that render these accusations untenable. It is clear that Darby regarded the 1830 charismatic manifestations as demonic and not of God [4]. Darby would not have borrowed an idea from a source he clearly thought was demonic [6]. Also Darby had already written out his pretribulation rapture views in January 1827, 3 years prior to the 1830 events and any MacDonald utterance [7]. When MacDonald's utterance is read closely, her statements show her to hold a posttribulationist position (“being the fiery trial which is to try us” and “for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus”)[8][9]. For these and other reasons, scholars consider MacPherson's alleged connection to dispensationalism as untenable[10].

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While I agree with MacPherson's position, let's be objective here - Dave P wasn't being a good Borean when he didn't look into carefully whether or not Darby got his ideas from this demonic source(MacDonald).

Also, not to be picky here, but why is an evangelist like MacPherson being trumpeted as the FIRST person to cross the gates of DISNEYLAND in 1955? I dunno, but someone taking pride in yoking with something as demonic like Disney sounds like a hypocrite to me.

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http://www.zimbio.com/Christian+Life/articles/6eZf646-gfG/Dave+MacPherson+Finds+Note+Rapture+Vision