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September 24, 2017, 10:45:16 pm Psalm 51:17 says: The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the league rulebook. It states: “The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. “During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”
September 20, 2017, 04:32:32 am Christian40 says: "The most popular Hepatitis B vaccine is nothing short of a witch’s brew including aluminum, formaldehyde, yeast, amino acids, and soy. Aluminum is a known neurotoxin that destroys cellular metabolism and function. Hundreds of studies link to the ravaging effects of aluminum. The other proteins and formaldehyde serve to activate the immune system and open up the blood-brain barrier. This is NOT a good thing."
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September 19, 2017, 03:59:21 am Christian40 says: bbc international did a video about there street preaching they are good witnesses
September 14, 2017, 08:06:04 am Psalm 51:17 says: bro Mark Hunter on YT has some good, edifying stuff too.
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2011, 01:15:12 pm »

Only the church is Raptured. Every one else is left. Will there be saints and jews saved after the rapture? sure. But i dont understand how there would be only jews or no saints. ya lost me there.

I'm sort of lost too, again, this is not my belief, but what I have seen discussed.  That somehow the Jews are not part of the Church.   Yes, this confuses me because we know there are Jewish believers.  I was under the impression that there is no Jew or Gentile any longer, we are all one in Jesus, but that there are believers and unbelievers.   

I see it often that the Tribulation is only for the Jews because the Church is not mentioned in parts of Revelation.  A remnant will come to believe when they see Jesus, but will remain on the earth through God's wrath, although protected, because they weren't part of the Church at the Rapture.  These are not the Jews in the 'desert' protected by 'eagles wings', believing Jews, Israel.

I'm thinking this is a wording/definition problem.  For example, who are the Saints, who are the Church.  Are unbelievers saved during the Tribulation, then considered Saints and part of the Church?  Are they ever?

I don't mean to make this difficult, truly. 
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