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August 08, 2018, 02:38:10 am suzytr says: Hello, any good churches in the Sacto, CA area, also looking in Reno NV, thanks in advance and God Bless you Smiley
January 29, 2018, 01:21:57 am Christian40 says: It will be interesting to see what happens this year Israel being 70 years as a modern nation may 14 2018
October 17, 2017, 01:25:20 am Christian40 says: It is good to type Mark is here again!  Smiley
October 16, 2017, 03:28:18 am Christian40 says: anyone else thinking that time is accelerating now? it seems im doing days in shorter time now is time being affected in some way?
September 24, 2017, 10:45:16 pm Psalm 51:17 says: The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the league rulebook. It states: “The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. “During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”
September 20, 2017, 04:32:32 am Christian40 says: "The most popular Hepatitis B vaccine is nothing short of a witch’s brew including aluminum, formaldehyde, yeast, amino acids, and soy. Aluminum is a known neurotoxin that destroys cellular metabolism and function. Hundreds of studies link to the ravaging effects of aluminum. The other proteins and formaldehyde serve to activate the immune system and open up the blood-brain barrier. This is NOT a good thing."
September 19, 2017, 03:59:21 am Christian40 says: bbc international did a video about there street preaching they are good witnesses
September 14, 2017, 08:06:04 am Psalm 51:17 says: bro Mark Hunter on YT has some good, edifying stuff too.
September 14, 2017, 04:31:26 am Christian40 says: i have thought that i'm reaping from past sins then my life has been impacted in ways from having non believers in my ancestry.
September 11, 2017, 06:59:33 am Psalm 51:17 says: The law of reaping and sowing. It's amazing how God's mercy and longsuffering has hovered over America so long. (ie, the infrastructure is very bad here b/c for many years, they were grossly underspent on. 1st Tim 6:10, the god of materialism has its roots firmly in the West) And remember once upon a time ago when shacking up b/w straight couples drew shock awe?

Exodus 20:5  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
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« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2015, 11:36:35 am »

Some reflections on the implications of repentance.  Is it just believing that Jesus is God or yielding to the truth of it in your heart?
It is not possible to admit Jesus is God and not to follow Him, unless by that you mean to admit he is God just like the devils.  To admit He is God and refuse to follow Him is flat out rejection, not faith in Him.  The response to follow Him is a result of the recognition that He is God.  The actual following Him is not the recognition.  The actual following Him is the fruit of repentance, or sanctification. Is there no difference between repentance, and fruit meet for repentance?  The former is a change of mind the latter is sanctification.  Otherwise, fruit meet for repentance must mean living as though you believe God is in charge, but refusing His authority over you, just like the devils do.  Fruit meet for repentance then is living like a devil, against what you know to be true.  This is absurd.

To believe that He is God is a universal idea of supremacy.  Look up "God" in the dictionary.  It means Supreme Being.  That means He gets to be in charge.  Otherwise you effectively reject that He is God.  The devils affirm the truth of it, but reject the implications.  When a man gets saved he is led of the Holy Spirit.  For anyone to have their mind changed about who Jesus is, and that change end up rejecting Him as God in the heart, is not repentance, it is not the leading of the Holy Spirit, it is rejection.  Just because the effects of genuine repentance results in a changed life, does not mean that this definition confuses sanctification.  It means that there is a Biblical difference between repentances and fruit meet for repentance, or the change of mind required by God and the resultant change of life that follows.  The heart changes when it decides who God is.  The man replaces the devil with Christ as God in his heart.  This is the only gospel way to recognize the deity of Christ.  The devils believe in God and tremble, but they do not yield to God's authority.  They know He is in charge, but have no desire to follow Him.  We do not wish to say that man gets saved by believing about the gospel, but not upon Christ. If you believe that man must go further than a devil when he believes to be saved, then you must acknowledge the true definition of repentance and it changes the heart, not just the beliefs about God.

If I change my mind about who owns me (God) it will affect my behavior (sanctification), but I did not get sanctified to get saved.  I got saved to get sanctified.  The low view of repentance does not deliver a man from the power of Satan to the power of God, does not translate a man out of the kingdom of darkness and into light, does not purify the heart by faith, or bring a man to the faith that works by love, he sows to the flesh, but will reap everlasting life contrary to the Bible.  Galatians 6:8.

Consider these thoughts and reflect upon their implications.
Love in Christ,
Pastor Dukes
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