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« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2013, 07:23:24 pm »

From now on, I'm gonna preface each post in this thread with this:

THIS IS NOT A SALVATION ISSUE, AND I DON'T DESIRE FOR IT TO BE A DIVISIVE ONE, EITHER.

Read these verses:

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

The Beast, or Antichrist, when he takes power, will make war with the saints and overcome them. We, as born again Bible believers, are the saints. How can the Antichrist make war with us and overcome us if we aren't here when he is in power? These verses, among others, clearly show that we are here during the tribulation. The Church is here, along with Israel.

Let's read on in Revelation 14:14-19:
 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

There's that word "wrath" again. And again, it's in connection to damnation, as it says earlier in the chapter in verses 10 and 11.

Now let's compare that to Matthew 13:24-30:
 24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying,  The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
 25  But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
 26  But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
 27  So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
 28  He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
 29  But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
 30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

He tells his servants to wait until the harvest to gather up the wheat and tares. ALL OF THEM. AT THE SAME TIME.
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