Pre-trib rapture and antichrist

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Re: Pre-trib rapture and antichrist

« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2013, 05:34:54 pm »

Quote from: Kilika on January 15, 2013, 05:21:47 pm

I'm not sure if that answers the question of when the "hour of temptation" is. Is it the same as the "strong delusion"? These two being one and the same event or period?

James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

The reason why I put this passage here is b/c this is for the believer who has constant struggles in his or her flesh(as Paul discussed in Romans 7) - on the contrary, the "hour of temptation" in Rev 3:10 talks about how it will try THE WORLD, and NOT the believer's daily struggle in the flesh.(at least that's how I understand it)

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As Mark mentioned in another thread, the claim is there is a "Tribulation", then there is "The Great Tribulation", which I surmise to be the seven year period, while the "Tribulation" is what I'm meaning it seems, the lead up to that seven year period.

Yes, that's what I understand too - the "great tribulation" is the final 7 year period.

Mat_24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And the other verses talking about regular tribulation is concerning the believer, I agree.

Rom 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Rom 5:4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
Rom 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

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My understanding is that the common rapture claim is that the church won't experience ANY of these tribulations. I dispute that claim. We at least will see the "Tribulation", the increasingly bad times, but I agree these "beginnings of sorrows" are the ramp up to the seven year tribulation period.

Yeah, that was my point too - it's not like everything will be "peaceful and prosperous" before the snatching away. I don't know how bad/worse things will get before the snatching away, but as I understood in scripture, Jesus does say the believers WILL witness the "beginnings of sorrows"(the key words are "but the end is not yet..." in this passage).

Thoughts from anyone else? Have to go exercise now before it gets dark.


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