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« on: October 10, 2011, 03:58:51 am »

19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert–Part 1

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    Bible Study
    1. ASPARTAME AKA NutraSweet–renamed AMINO SWEET or NEOTAME
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19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert–Part 2

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    2. GMO CROPS
    3. COREXIT
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19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert–Part 3

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    4. VACCINES
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19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert – Part 4

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    4. VACCINES—continued
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    4. VACCINES—continued
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19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert – Part 6

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    4. VACCINES—continued
    5. FALSE PANDEMIC PANIC
    6. PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS
    7. FLUORIDATED CITY WATER
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 02:41:11 pm »

awesome teaching. i'm glad he addressed pet vaccines. if they are bad for humans they are bad for animals too. i'm not an alex jones fan but he does have some useful info and seems to fight hard against 'the system'. he didn't say if his ankle got better, if dr. scott can still get attacked by demons then i am no better. i'm definitely looking into getting a detox from the website he suggested. it certainly is not cheap. i still have some of that silver liquid that i have not finished.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 05:57:30 am »

19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert – Part 7
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8. AEROSOL SPRAYING – Chemtrails
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19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert – Part 8
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9. FDA
10. VITAMIN SUPPLEMENT DEMONIZATION
11. The EPA – Permitting and Fracking
12. USDA
13. FUKUSHIMA
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19 Ways “They” are Trying to Kill us – Red Level Alert – Part 9
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14. THE FOOD SAFETY AND MODERNIZATION ACT
15. SMART GRID and SMART METERS
16. UNENDING WARS
17. OBAMACARE
18. WEATHER MODIFICATION
19. FINANCIAL COLLAPSE/DEPRESSION
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Bonus: Susan G. Komen Foundation Exposed, Breast Cancer’s Shocking Secret, Mammogram Warning
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 08:59:17 am »

The NFL is going all out endorsing breast cancer awareness as well - not only the players, but the referrees are putting on that logo on their uniforms, hats, etc.

Also, the commercial with the "Everybody Loves Raymond" actor...that "up arrow" symbol that Michael W. Smith/Nazi Germany used(came from the Rhunes occult) is used in the logo in their commercial.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 03:14:16 pm »

Wow, what a colossal waste of time that teaching was.

The new information could have been related inside of one hour, instead there was almost ten hours with 90% of it being old news repeated over and over and over again. I have listened to Scott for a few years now and I know how much he normally likes to repeat himself, but this so called teaching was beyond belief.

Another thing, if  the man would get a little better grip on reality he teachings would be so much more worthwhile, if this is going to be his new standard I am going to have to stop listening. Especially unbelievable was his statement that microwave ovens change water. How ridicules, water is just hydrogen and oxygen, what exactly does it change into?

I also cannot believe how he hates on nuclear energy, obviously he has never bothered to check the radiation released by coal fired electrical generation. There is a reason why workers at a coal plant are required to wear radiation badges and it is not mere decoration.

He is unfortunately becoming child-like in his attitudes. He reads some load of tripe on the internet and then includes it in his teachings without finding out whether or not it is true.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 03:29:38 pm »

On a side note - I found one particular substance - that well, I don't see mentioned much. But odd.. the properties of this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide

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Titanium dioxide accounts for 70% of the total production volume of pigments worldwide. It is widely used to provide whiteness and opacity to products such as paints, plastics, papers, inks, foods, and toothpastes. It is also used in cosmetic and skin care products, and it is present in almost every sunblock, where it helps protect the skin from ultraviolet light.

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Therefore, the observations of cancer in animals were considered, by IARC, as relevant to people doing jobs with exposures to titanium dioxide dust. For example, titanium dioxide production workers may be exposed to high dust concentrations during packing, milling, site cleaning and maintenance, if there are insufficient dust control measures in place. However, the human studies conducted so far do not suggest an association between occupational exposure to titanium dioxide and an increased risk for cancer.

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The titanium dioxide particles used in sunscreens have to be coated with silica or alumina, because titanium dioxide creates radicals in the photocatalytic reaction. These radicals are carcinogenic, and could damage the skin.

Free radicals may also be involved in Parkinson's disease, senile and drug-induced deafness, schizophrenia, and Alzheimer's. The classic free-radical syndrome, the iron-storage disease hemochromatosis, is typically associated with a constellation of free-radical-related symptoms including movement disorder, psychosis, skin pigmentary melanin abnormalities, deafness, arthritis, and diabetes mellitus. The free radical theory of aging proposes that free radicals underlie the aging process itself, whereas the process of mitohormesis suggests that repeated exposure to free radicals may extend life span.

Kinda like many of these diseases we hear so much about now, eh?

And I wonder who might make something like this...?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/05/11/dupont-spend-500-million-increase-titanium-dioxide-production/

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dupont-announces-global-plans-to-expand-titanium-dioxide-capabilities-121643958.html

(DuPont) The world's largest maker of the pigment--widely used to brighten paint, paper and plastic--will invest more than $500 million on the new plant at its existing facility in Altamira, Mexico, boosting DuPont's annual capacity by 200,000 metric tons.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 12:23:51 am »

dr. johnson isn't for everyone. he works hard to do these teachings almost each week and doesn't push people to give him money. he never places himself on a pedastool. always says if anything he deserves the pit of hell. i will admit that his health related teachings are the least interesting for me but i have learned alot from listening to him. and i am one of those wishy washy Christians who jump from church to church and pastor to pastor. dr. johnson is the only one i have stuck to the longest. not that i worship him. i just find him to be genuine. what church leaders degruix do you find 'acceptable'?
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dr. johnson isn't for everyone. he works hard to do these teachings almost each week and doesn't push people to give him money. he never places himself on a pedastool. always says if anything he deserves the pit of hell. i will admit that his health related teachings are the least interesting for me but i have learned alot from listening to him. and i am one of those wishy washy Christians who jump from church to church and pastor to pastor. dr. johnson is the only one i have stuck to the longest. not that i worship him. i just find him to be genuine. what church leaders degruix do you find 'acceptable'?

Given the corrupt churchianity system of today, yes, I would do the same. Heck, it would be best to jump ship completely from this. It's these modern-day churches that are wishy-washy.

And yes, while the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God should be served only, and wholly with our hearts, I too would like to hear a sermon filled with meat every week, and not some watered down one like you hear in the churches.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 04:19:40 am »

I think Dr Johnson does pretty well considering that he is just one person and that he has gone into things here that other ministries wont touch. This thing about Fukushima in Japan, i dont see China or Korea or other countries concerned about Fukushima and when people in California were worried about all the radiation i thought it was a bit silly. The stuff about Planet X is silly too, if it was coming near the earth there would have been chaos here already.

Yes i have heard some of this before if someone in Nigeria heard this for the first time then it would be really interesting but i guess people have high expectations. Huh

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 05:13:05 am »

Scott also is collecting a very wide and veried listening base. Us on the forum are well informed, must be why we are paronoid but others may not be as informed as us.
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Scott also is collecting a very wide and veried listening base. Us on the forum are well informed, must be why we are paronoid but others may not be as informed as us.

I've never heard him before and I've seen links in your sig for years Dok - I'll check him out this weekend. I don't always agree 100% with every teacher/preacher - but sometimes I do change my mind thanks to them, as long as scripture supports it, in any event Smiley
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I've never heard him before and I've seen links in your sig for years Dok - I'll check him out this weekend. I don't always agree 100% with every teacher/preacher - but sometimes I do change my mind thanks to them, as long as scripture supports it, in any event Smiley

you should give em a listen, virtually all his teachings are on stuff that would never be discussed in a chirchianity church.
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Pasture Mike Hoggard is the best, and the only "Church Leader" I listen to. A good example of his discretion is when he pointed out how conspiracy theorist types use the so called "project blue beam" as a catch all for all these abilities the powers that be supposedly have. Pasture Mike pointed out how "blue beam" is based on the testimony of only one person so the question becomes, do you trust the testimony of only one witness? Of course Scot implicitly believes in blue beam.

Chuck Missler is the most intelligent "teacher" I have listened to, but I have not listened to him in ages. He was slandered by Scot (who said he taught false doctrine, an example of which was never given, and also said he was a nwo agent JUST because he is involved with big business and the government) and dismissed out of hand by people on this website. His teachings against evolution using the "irreducible complexity" argument is by far the most devastating attack I have ever seen against evolution. His teaching against evolution seems to be irrefutable.


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People who believe that are just those who like to scare themselves. About a year ago I wrote down a bunch of dates some nut on youtube had spoken of in a video. Things like "on May 8th such and such would be in alignment and there would be an earthquake, on June 15th something else would be in alignment and there would be another earthquake." What hogwash.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 10:10:39 am »

Doc Marquis said this whole "Planet X" was made up by the Illuminati as well - Marquis thinks nothing will happen on 12/21/2012 as well, HOWEVER, he says don't be surprised if a political assassination(ie-on Obama) happens around that time.

Also, I saw a trailer for a 2005 video game(can't remember the title) that talked about a false flag nuke happening in DC on inauguration day 2013, and then from there all chaos breaking loose one after another. Who knows what will happen between now and 2012? There's rumors everything will go down this year, but OTOH, don't be surprised if nothing happens until Romney(the Mormon, that is) gets elected, and then the house of cards start crumbling down(ie-so far, Romney is starting to get endorsement from influential Christian leaders - as Peter said, "Judgement starts at the house of God").

As for Hoggard, I used to listen to him until he gave that pathetic "follow the government blindly" Romans 13 sermon. As for Missler, I really never cared for him(even before Scott's exposure teaching on him). Someone on PPF sent me youtube videos of him 2 years ago to listen to, and I just never found Missler interesting.

As for whatever bible/prophecy teachers I listen to - as Paul said in Romans, "let every man be persuaded by his own mind"(paraphrasing here). If you feel the word of God is giving you the green light to listen to whatever person, then so be it. If not, then so be it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 12:20:16 pm »

Pasture Mike Hoggard is the best, and the only "Church Leader" I listen to.

Mike is wrapped up in churchianity. He has said that a "good christian" will always be in church. He wastes loads of money on having a church building and is not against 501c3. He has told people that 501c3 status for a church is no big deal. And then for him to come out and preach subservience to the government. I highly question his agenda at this point.
 
He said one time in a sermon that he could go back and look at the church records to see who was tithing or not but that he wouldn't do so.

Why does he have those kind of records?

He has done some good teachings but he is no better than anyone else.

There is a forum, type website for his listeners and it charges a monthly membership fee?
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Wow, what a colossal waste of time that teaching was.

Jas 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
 
You come across as very selfish.

Just because Scott's teaching did nothing for you, doesn't mean that it was not a blessing to somebody else.

Scott's efforts have been a blessing to many people and he truly cares about his listeners and brothers and sisters in Christ.

You would benefit yourself to do the same.

Please do better than Scott.

I don't recall hearing any of your teachings. What is your ministry called.

 Do you spend your time exposing wickedness in this world and warning the flock?

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2011, 01:13:34 pm »

Scott is not infallible, and the last thing I would do is put him up on a pedestial.

However, I feel blessed that the Lord has showed me his teachings 2 years ago. It was in the Spring 2009 when I was doing an internet search for something completely different, then out of the blue Scott's maitreya teaching popped up. I started listening to it out of curiosity, and it wasn't so much the maitreya deception that caught my ears, but Scott got into how the churches were slowly but surely getting softened up in recent decades.

Again, I had no intention of doing an internet search for maitreya or Scott(had no idea either one existed), but when Scott started talking about the churches being softened up over the recent years et al, it got me thinking how alot of this was right under my nose since I became a churchgoer(albeit an unsaved one) since the 80's. Through all those years, something just didn't "seem right" within those church walls, but I just gave it the benefit of the doubt and never bothered to be a good Borean searching the scriptures.

It was after this teaching when I went to youtube to search for this(b/c this audio ended up cutting me off just minutes before Scott was going to reveal the charismatic Pentacostal who "prophecized" maitreya's public appearance in Kenya), and it on one of the youtube links where the message forum link was posted. And this is how I found this message board.

And it was shortly after all this, I think, when I started reading the KJV, and started digging into it(instead of a mere 15 minutes a day in some NIV "study bible"). Overall, I had no idea of the false Churchianity system. While I knew of churches being tax-exempt, I had no idea of the 501c3 tag that put it under the bondage of the IRS. HARDLY any ministries out there, even good discerning ones, will touch it with a 10 foot pole. Only Scott, Slattery, Adams, and Dixon are the very few. Other than that, you don't hear Roger Oakland, Chris Roseborough, Bill Schnebolen, Jan Markell, Noah Hutchings, Russ Dizzdar, among other of our decent end times watchmen say anything about it. It can be a pretty touchy subject, at the same time.
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And it was shortly after all this, I think, when I started reading the KJV, and started digging into it(instead of a mere 15 minutes a day in some NIV "study bible"). Overall, I had no idea of the false Churchianity system. While I knew of churches being tax-exempt, I had no idea of the 501c3 tag that put it under the bondage of the IRS. HARDLY any ministries out there, even good discerning ones, will touch it with a 10 foot pole. Only Scott, Slattery, Adams, and Dixon are the very few. Other than that, you don't hear Roger Oakland, Chris Roseborough, Bill Schnebolen, Jan Markell, Noah Hutchings, Russ Dizzdar, among other of our decent end times watchmen say anything about it. It can be a pretty touchy subject, at the same time.

Well, the whole 501c3 thing... Churches exist in the confines of this political system and others - even in Jesus' day, that was much the same. That being said, most of my 'church' is a small group bible study and I listen to a few on the radio and the web.

I'm sure there are some that try to exist under a tax-exempt status that are as good as any. Question will come when this status really hits home and tries to push them certain ways - we'll see the wheat and chaff separated immediately.

While I prefer a few, like Hal Lindsey, Chuck Swindoll, Robbie Zachariah and a few others - I'm willing to listen to most of them. If I find a major concept they push that's just not biblical I'll run away. But small mistakes or differences of opinion on certain things aren't such a big deal.

Even in the case of a corrupt preacher though - God can still work through them, whether they like it or not.. Smiley
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Well, the whole 501c3 thing... Churches exist in the confines of this political system and others - even in Jesus' day, that was much the same. That being said, most of my 'church' is a small group bible study and I listen to a few on the radio and the web.

I'm sure there are some that try to exist under a tax-exempt status that are as good as any. Question will come when this status really hits home and tries to push them certain ways - we'll see the wheat and chaff separated immediately.

Exactly - I think the time will come one day when Caesar will call in his chips, the IRS/fed government could very well give these 501c3 churches an ultimatum...either help us implement our globalist agendas(ie-forced vaccinations), or you will LOSE EVERYTHING. Yes, there are 501c3 ministries that are calling out draconian agendas of the federal government on a regular basis. They may not lose their tax-exempt status now, but again, the time will come when the IRS will show them a record of everything they did, and give them an ultimatum. Ultimately, it would be best for these 501c3s to come clean now, and while they may lose their ministry, they may not lose everything, per se(ie-pastors may get to keep their retirement income).

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While I prefer a few, like Hal Lindsey, Chuck Swindoll, Robbie Zachariah and a few others - I'm willing to listen to most of them. If I find a major concept they push that's just not biblical I'll run away. But small mistakes or differences of opinion on certain things aren't such a big deal.

I listened to Hal Lindsey on a regular basis when I started keeping up with end times events in 2008 - he's not bad. He would give reports on Israel/ME every week(that were pretty sound) among other things. However, my big gripe with him is that he's caught up in the false left/right paradigm. For example, in 2008 after the banker bailout package got rammed through, he exposed the Federal Reserve(among other things). However, he went as far as blaming Bill Clinton entirely for starting this mess, and even defended George W. Bush b/c supposedly Bush tried to warn everyone about it(but supposedly the Democrats in Congress overrode him). Even though Lindsey said it's happening b/c bible prophecy said it would, at the same time, he acted like there were "good" people in Congress(Republicans) and "bad" people there(Democrats). For the record, Bush Jr largely had the Republicans behind him on Capitol Hill until 2007(when the Democrats took over), so obviously the Republicans were just as responsible as the Democrats. And New Gingrich and Bob Dole were the GOP leaders in Congress when Clinton was in office. You get my point...

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Even in the case of a corrupt preacher though - God can still work through them, whether they like it or not.. Smiley

To some extent, I can agree - millions have gotten saved watching Billy Graham crusades. But at the same time, remember there's the dark side to this(ie-Graham has openly endorsed the Pope, Roman Catholicism, and even told some attending his crusades to go to Catholic churches, as well as Jewish Synogogues).
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I listened to Hal Lindsey on a regular basis when I started keeping up with end times events in 2008 - he's not bad. He would give reports on Israel/ME every week(that were pretty sound) among other things. However, my big gripe with him is that he's caught up in the false left/right paradigm. For example, in 2008 after the banker bailout package got rammed through, he exposed the Federal Reserve(among other things). However, he went as far as blaming Bill Clinton entirely for starting this mess, and even defended George W. Bush b/c supposedly Bush tried to warn everyone about it(but supposedly the Democrats in Congress overrode him). Even though Lindsey said it's happening b/c bible prophecy said it would, at the same time, he acted like there were "good" people in Congress(Republicans) and "bad" people there(Democrats). For the record, Bush Jr largely had the Republicans behind him on Capitol Hill until 2007(when the Democrats took over), so obviously the Republicans were just as responsible as the Democrats. And New Gingrich and Bob Dole were the GOP leaders in Congress when Clinton was in office. You get my point...



Yes, we all have a bit to grow Smiley

Lately; he seems a bit less partisan anymore. To that - he was instrumental in my salvation... let's say he said the right thing at the right time and I happened to catch it. I suppose it's really God, but still...
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2011, 02:38:09 pm »

Wow, what a colossal waste of time that teaching was.


Hoggard says to blindly follow the government no matter what. Jesus said not to, who do you trust?

Also you should never put any one other than Jesus up on a pedestal, every one but him will always fall off.  I didnt listen to this teaching as it just didnt seem that interesting and i knew all that stuff already, but im quite sure there are people out there that have never heard of this stuff. A lot of Scotts teachings i already know about, as im a highly informed person, but a lot of his listeners are not like me. But i do not disparage those that aren't and neither should you. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2011, 03:20:13 pm »

Hoggard says to blindly follow the government no matter what. Jesus said not to, who do you trust?

Also you should never put any one other than Jesus up on a pedestal, every one but him will always fall off.  I didnt listen to this teaching as it just didnt seem that interesting and i knew all that stuff already, but im quite sure there are people out there that have never heard of this stuff. A lot of Scotts teachings i already know about, as im a highly informed person, but a lot of his listeners are not like me. But i do not disparage those that aren't and neither should you. 

Let's get this 'follow government' thing in context. You can liken that passage in Romans to the military.

The POTUS is the 'commander-in-chief' - of course, the people are his/her boss.
Then the secretary of defense.
Then we fall down to the General of the Army or a 4-star in the joint chiefs.

Etc, etc, etc..

If the POTUS gives an order and a Major disregards it - you are NOT in trouble for ignoring the order of the Major, since it is in direct opposition to the order from the Commander in Chief. Particularly if it's clear..

Say a General went AWOL and is suspected a traitor. The POTUS orders that NO killing force is to be used. If the Major tells you to 'shoot to kill' - you ignore that order.

Same here - if God says we are not to kill, and government says you must kill - you are obligated to follow God's law. This has in fact happened in not just N@zi Germany but other places.

No one - that I know of - would say any N@zi officer was in the 'right' for killing people to fill Hitler's final solution. Even though - that officer would have been following the laws of the current government.

Of course, that's just the way I see it Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2011, 04:32:22 am »

The thing i see is that all these Christian preachers i listen to fail at one point (or usually multiple points)

I dont know of any perfect Christian preacher to recommend to you.

Each of them cover different areas that make me think about some things from a certain angle.

Dont laugh but i listen to Texe Marrs at the moment and i especially like his Bible focused radio shows. (I dont know if Texe is pro-501c3 or not)

I think Pastor Mike Slattery has outstanding teachings but Dr Johnson warned his listeners about him so i dont listen to him at the moment but he is still putting out sermons there.

Mike Hoggard covers interesting ground and i have learnt from him. Though what ak said above makes me see him in a different light.

I was thinking that the Lord Jesus Himself was with the Pharisees and Rabbi's and associated with them when he was growing up and knew how corrupt they were and judged them later on as being hypocrites etc.

Well Dr Johnson says he can glean things from certain places, well i'm going to glean but still check the KJV Scriptures to see if things are so.



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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2011, 09:56:13 am »

Marrs's church isn't 501c3(when he asks for donations, he says it's not tax deductible b/c his ministry isn't 501c3).

As for those I listen to, it depends on how much time I have - I listen to Dr. Johnson on a regular basis(although his tatoos, marking the body one recently didn't interest me a whole lot, as I'm familiar with it). I also listen to Chris Pinto, Brannon House, and Noah Hutchings. However, it depends on how much time I have. I like Chris Roseborough's Fighting for the Faith, however, I haven't listened to him in over a year quite simply b/c I haven't had the time. It's also been a couple of months since I've listened to House's show.

I know we should put the word of God first and foremost, but at the same time I like to listen to these sources so that to get an up-to-date over what's going on in the end times watchman's world.
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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2011, 04:20:15 pm »

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You come across as very selfish.
Just because Scott's teaching did nothing for you, doesn't mean that it was not a blessing to somebody else.
Scott's efforts have been a blessing to many people and he truly cares about his listeners and brothers and sisters in Christ.
You would benefit yourself to do the same.
Please do better than Scott.
I don't recall hearing any of your teachings. What is your ministry called.
 Do you spend your time exposing wickedness in this world and warning the flock?

Flaming me does not make Scott infallible.

I am sorry you place such stock in him that you believe he is above criticism. The last time I checked there was only one perfect man to ever walk the Earth, and his initials were JC not SJ.
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2011, 04:43:19 pm »

Flaming me does not make Scott infallible.

I am sorry you place such stock in him that you believe he is above criticism. The last time I checked there was only one perfect man to ever walk the Earth, and his initials were JC not SJ.

I certainly would never hold to the claim that Scott is infallible. If you don't like a particular teaching of his what do you benefit from "Flaming" him? There are many of his teaching I was not led or interested in listening to. My point to you was that someone else may find benefit even where we do  not. It is selfish to expect that everything should be for us.

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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2011, 11:16:50 pm »

Hoggard says to blindly follow the government no matter what. Jesus said not to, who do you trust?

Also you should never put any one other than Jesus up on a pedestal, every one but him will always fall off.  I didnt listen to this teaching as it just didnt seem that interesting and i knew all that stuff already, but im quite sure there are people out there that have never heard of this stuff. A lot of Scotts teachings i already know about, as im a highly informed person, but a lot of his listeners are not like me. But i do not disparage those that aren't and neither should you. 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but Hoggard also celebrates Easter(Ishtar) and Xmas. He gave reasons why, and they sounded convincing. When I started listening to him almost 2 years ago, I didn't think much of it at the time when I learned of it. For someone who's KJV-only, NWO-watching, and an expert on Mystery Babylon, you would think he would know back and forth the evils of these pagan holidays.

Fritz Springmeyer in his books(either Wise as Serpents or Bloodlines of the Illuminati) talks about how the CIA et al has put some of these wolves(pastors in churches) under the mind control program, and they can be a bit hard to discern at times. He explained it when he did a presentation at the Prophecy Club years ago. I'm not saying Hoggard is one of them, but at the same time, for someone who has a small congregation church(like 15 people), obviously he doesn't get much in terms of salary. However, his productions in his watchmen's video broadcasts does NOT look cheap. Yeah, he probably uses a fake background, but at the same time, there are techno stuff used in it(that pretties up the productions) that isn't exactly cheap to use. And then putting together all the information in there to make it look neat. Again, something doesn't look right.
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2011, 03:26:56 am »

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Hoggard also celebrates Easter(Ishtar) and Xmas. He gave reasons why, and they sounded convincing.

That's a big red flag.

A Christian lady on this forum warned me, saying that he came across as having a spirit similar to fake preachers. Well his style may be like that, he does shout a bit. I think Hoggard used to be in IT that is how he does the productions well? Yet his base is at American Legion Drive does that make any suggestions? Hoggard tends to repeat himself a bit like Dr Johnson, he is doing a detailed series on Revelation at the moment so i'm seeing if what he says is true.
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2011, 07:27:40 am »

for someone who has a small congregation church(like 15 people)

really? can you source that? because if thats true how is he getting so much publicity?

but Hoggard also celebrates Easter(Ishtar) and Xmas.

can you source that?
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