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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 07:53:09 am »

 I hate it when that happens.  Roll Eyes


sid roth people!!! thats the first red flag.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 02:56:19 am »

The Occult in the Church (discernment video)



Here is Rick Joyner Exposed

"The work and ministry of sermonindex can be encapsulated in this one word: REVIVAL. sermonindex is not a organisation, business, or any attempt by man to build something for God. It is rather a expression of a heart burden to see the Church revived and brought back to holiness, purity, and power with God. "The mission of SermonIndex is the preservation and propogation of classical vintage preaching and the promotion of genuine biblical revival to this generation."
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 07:32:12 am »

wow!! The drums? Were the drums added to the vid by the maker or where those actually being played there? The whole thing, well i could watch the whole thing it was just too creepy, but it appears that the drums were leading the girl, and than the whole thing. It felt like an African voodoo worship thingy, or something out of Cthulhu.

Took a while to find but here is an ancient account of how the drum is used to summon and control demons.

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Sami witchcraft was known to entail three characteristics, according
to educated Europeans of the early modern age. The Sami
were renown for their abilities to tell fortunes and predict future
events. Ever since the Nordic sagas were recorded, this feature of
the indigenous populations of the North was well known. The Sami
people are described in Nordic sagas as highly skilled in various
kinds of magic. In general, Old Norse sources give the impression
that all Sami were great sorcerers (Mundal, 1996, p. 112). It was
forbidden to travel to Finnmark’s Sami, according to ancient Norwegian
laws, to have one’s fortune told. But closely associated with
their powers of prophecy were their abilities to narrate events. By
the use of a magic drum (runebomme), and other rituals, a Sami
shaman (noaide) would allow himself to fall into a trance—at which
time his spirit would be led far away. Upon awakening, he could tell
a patron of events that had occurred at the site to which his spirit
had traveled.

Satan himself was thought of having given these drums to the
Sami, that according to Christians immersed in demonological concepts
of shamanism. The drum, or instrument of the Devil, was the
means by which a sorcerer would summon his demons. Such demons
were believed to reside in a drum, and these were revived by
striking the drum. In this manner, each drumbeat was intended for
Satan in hell—to quote a Swedish missionary working among the
Sami. While under the spell of his satanic trance, a shaman would
communicate with his attendant demon that, because of his tremendous
acuity and faculty for moving swiftly, could divulge global
events to his master. As a result, seventeenth-century missionaries
appointed to the Sami regions made necessary arrangements to burn
the drums and to destroy the pagan gods of the Sami. The demonizing
of this pantheistic-like religion proliferated throughout the seventeenth
century. And Sami who believed in their abilities to predict
the future were accused of being satanic prophets.

from demons spirits and witches V1.

This description is exactly what is going on in that video. The drum is being used to summon the devil, and control it and the whole narrative. This is pure witchcraft recorded for all to see. Just amazing...
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Voluntary Spirit Possession

In some non-Western cultures, including shamanic traditions,
voluntary possession as a means to communicate
with spirits and deities serves as the centerpiece of religious
worship and is used to obtain benefi cial help in
solving problems, divining the future, curing illness, and
restoring happiness and harmony in life. Possession by a
god shows the possessed to be worthy of the god’s notice
and protection.

In the Caribbean and South America and lands
where tribal Africans were taken to be slaves, worship
of the religions of their ancestors—now practiced as
Vodun, Santeria, candomblé, or Umbanda—involves
the possession of the faithful by the gods to obtain true
communion and protection. Black slaves transported to
Brazil by the Portuguese in the 1550s found their tribal
religion had much in common with the spiritual practices
of Indian tribes along the Amazon River. Forced to
syncretize the worship of the gods, or orishas, into the
veneration of Catholic saints to escape persecution, the
blacks continued to follow the old ways and rituals in
secret. By the time the slaves won their independence
in 1888, more than 15 generations of Brazilians—black,
white and Indian—had heard the stories of the orishas
and how their magical intervention had snared a lover,
saved a marriage or a sick baby, or eliminated a wicked
enemy.

Worshippers, entranced by rites of chanting and
drumming, are temporarily possessed or “mounted” by
a god or spirit, becoming the entity’s “horse.” They take
on that spirit’s personal characteristics, such as facial
expressions, body postures and gestures, preferences for
certain foods or colors, perfumes, patterns of speech, use
of profanity, smoking, and so forth.

Under possession, the worshipper may endure great
extremes of heat and cold, dance unceasingly for hours,
suffer from cuts and bruises with no pain, and even tear
off the heads of live chickens used for sacrifi ce with his
or her own teeth. Often the possessed issue prophesies
and deliver pronouncements about local affairs. The worshipper
becomes the deity and is accorded all appropriate
rights and honors. Once possession subsides, the special
treatment ends and the worshipper resumes his or her
ordinary life.

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 09:56:59 am »

Mark, Bryan did a sermon exposing rock music and "christian rock", and talked abit how bad these drums are. The book he gave out for free, "Inside Rock Music", talked a bit about it as well.

So here's my question - first off, when I first moved back to North Texas, we were church-searching, and one of the first ones we visited was a very new, albeit very small one who's pastor seemed like a dirt-poor guy(very bad teeth, to say the least), whose resources were limited.

Anyhow, just to cut to the chase, yeah, we sang hymns, however, a young boy was playing the drums while we were doing so. So pretty, much, if I understand this correctly, is drum-playing DEMONIC?

As for this pastor - I thought he was a true man of God at the time, but as the Lord has revealed to me alot of the deception going on, this guy, when I think about it more, came across as potentially a Jesuit-plant. Even though he seemed passionate, he talked TOO fast. He claimed how God "healed him" of his dyslectic ailments(No, I'm not saying that God can't heal you, however, it seems like with alot of these false prophets and teachers, they almost always say how "God healed them of their ailments", just something I've learned with experience). He had a picture of the New Age Jesus in the small building. He also LIMITED the hymn singing, for some reason(after 5 minutes or so, when everything was going well, he would just say "Stop!"). I could go on and on, but apparently these false teachers can run rampant everywhere, not necessarily being appointed to the large ministries.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 10:05:42 am »

So pretty, much, if I understand this correctly, is drum-playing DEMONIC?

i wouldnt say so, BUT i think that in HOW it is used and the spirit behind it.

Psa 149:3  Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.


timbrel is a hand held drum. But as you can see in the video the drums used there were very dark, and rose and fell as it led the demon in the girl along.  They also had a very african feel to them. I think it all depends on what you put into the drum beat. Big difference between a tambourine (timbrel) and the heavy dark drumming as in that video. 

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2012, 10:21:23 am »

Mark, Bryan did a sermon exposing rock music and "christian rock", and talked abit how bad these drums are. The book he gave out for free, "Inside Rock Music", talked a bit about it as well.



Louis R. Torres, once a bass player in one of the
very earliest rock bands (Bill Haley and The Comets),
is now the head of a Christian school of evangelism.
His research agrees with the findings of Mill,
and provides a still more complete picture:

“The use of syncopated rhythms, with their
ability to alter states of consciousness, stem
from ancient Egypt. It is to Egypt that historians
trace the origin of drum-syncopated music
and its uses. In the temples, priests intentionally
employed complex syncopation in order
to induce trances and other disturbances (Pennethorne
Hughes, Witchcraft, p. 23; cited in Ismael
Reed, Mumbo Jumbo, p. 191).

“Primitive percussionists learned to induce physiological
responses, from ecstasy and hallucinations
to seizures and unconsciousness (Michael
Segell, “Rhythmitism,” American Health, December
1988, pp. 19, 37).

“This form of pagan worship was in time transplanted
to central Africa, where it took root especially
in Duhomy, now known as the Democratic
Republic of Congo (Marshall Stearn, The Story of
Jazz, p. 20). Duhomy became the center of voodoo
religion. Participants were moved by the rhythmic
beats. In the danse du ventre, or belly dance, shoulders,
buttocks, stomach, and breasts were all separately
or simultaneously rotated, wagged, or otherwise
set in motion.

“Through the slave trade, this devil-worship
music, with its incessant beat, was carried to
the island of Hispaniola in the Caribbean. Here
again it took root. Today, voodoo is still practiced
in Haiti, which occupies the western third of
Hispaniola, and in the Dominican Republic, which
occupies the rest of the island.

“As the slave trade continued, the rhythm was
transported to the United States. New Orleans
became a hotbed for the new pounding of
drums and the erratic dancing that accompanied
it.”

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i wouldnt say so, BUT i think that in HOW it is used and the spirit behind it.

Psa 149:3  Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

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Yeah, that can be extended to a lot of things…money, guns, knives, alcohol, governments, intellect…
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 02:59:13 am »

wow!! The drums? Were the drums added to the vid by the maker or where those actually being played there?

This description is exactly what is going on in that video. The drum is being used to summon the devil, and control it and the whole narrative. This is pure witchcraft recorded for all to see. Just amazing...

i think that the drums were being played there, Dr Johnson talked about this video i think in part 2 of his latest teaching. He said that it sounded just like African witchcraft too.
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This is all we need, new-agers presenting themselves as Chrstians, and calling for a military takeover

Christian TV host asks God for ‘military takeover’ of Obama’s presidency

A Christian TV host this week called on God to consider a “military takeover” of President Barack Obama’s government because it could be the only way to save the country from tyranny.

On his Monday Internet broadcast, Morning Star TV’s Rick Joyner predicted that democracy was “doomed” unless the Lord imposed martial law.
 
“The balance of powers in the legislative and judicial branches were supposed to balance and keep in check, hold in check, the potential tyranny from the executive branch overstepping their bounds,” Joyner explained. “The people are not always right, it depends on what people they are. And another thing the founders warned about is this thing will only work for a moral and a religious people. You remove morality, you remove the religious influence, and it cannot work.”

“We’re headed for serious tyranny, a terrible tyranny right now,” he continued. “But guess what? The kingdom is coming, the Kingdom of God is coming. And America is not the Kingdom of God. I think we have been used in some wonderful and powerful ways by God, we’ve been one of the most generous nations in history. We’ve done so much good.”
 
“That’s why I appeal to the Lord: Don’t let us be totally destroyed, please raise up those who will save us. And as I’ve been telling friends for a long time, no election is going to get the right person in there because the system is so broken.”
 
Joyner added that the “only hope is a military takeover, martial law.”

“And that the most crucial element of that is who to the martial [sic] is going to be,” he said. “I believe there are noble leaders in our military that love the republic and love everything we stand for. And they could seize the government.”



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And what was I saying in the other thread about man's pride, wanting people to pat them on the back for their "good works"? Well, there you go.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits."
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False Prophet Claims Panthers Win in Super Bowl Will Usher in Third Spiritual ‘Great Awakening’

 A false prophet from South Carolina is predicting that if the Carolina Panthers win the Super Bowl on Sunday, it will user in the third spiritual Great Awakening in America and possibly “the greatest in-gathering of all time.”

Rick Joyner of MorningStar Ministries in Fort Mill, South Carolina explained his position on his broadcast “Prophetic Perspectives” on Tuesday, which was also posted online. He said that the first person to make the prediction was the late Bob Jones, who he also billed as a prophet.

“[Jones predicted that] when our Carolina Panthers won the Super Bowl, major revival, awakening, moves of God are going to break out in America,” Joyner said.

He told the story of when the Black Panthers, a black power organization, came to Charlotte, North Carolina in the 1980’s. Joyner said that he received a call from Jones about the development, which he found to be concerning.

“Bob calls me [and] he says, ‘The Black Panthers are coming to Charlotte,’ and I said, ‘What does that mean?’ Joyner outlined. “He wasn’t sure what it meant. I said, ‘Sounds like an attack.’ And he said, ‘Well, it may be. I don’t know. But they’re coming to the lumber yard in Charlotte.”

He said that the men then found it to be prophetic when the Panthers football team later built a stadium where the Black Panthers had met at the lumber yard.

“Several years later, we get this professional football team, and they name them the Panthers—their panther is a black panther—and they build a stadium on the lumberyard downtown. So we knew there was a prophetic destiny to this team,” Joyner asserted.

He said that many in the prophesy world soon began to remark how the ups and downs of the football team “would be teachings for us (the Church)” and would be an “incredibly accurate parallel of things we were going through.” He said that it was believed that many of the football stadiums being built were actually for revival purposes and would one day be “filled with worshipers and people seeking the Lord.”

Joyner explained therefore, that when the Panthers ascended to the Super Bowl in 2004, he thought it might signal revival.

“When they went to the Super Bowl once over ten years ago, we thought, ‘This is it. Revival’s breaking out in America,'” he outlined. “Well, they didn’t win.”

Joyner said, however, that if the Panthers win this year, he believes it will serve as a sign that the next Great Awakening has arrived.

“If they do [win], to me it is a very definite marker of something remarkable breaking out,” he stated.

Joyner noted that one of his friends had predicted that when the Kansas City Royals won the World Series, an outpouring of God would take place.

“Of course, they won the World Series again this year—the first time in 30 years since 1985,” Joyner said. “Well, that really got our attention.”

“And we said, if the Panthers win this year, we know it’s all hands on deck,” he continued. “And we are going to see the outbreak of, I believe, the third Great Awakening in America.”

Joyner opined that it could even bring about the “greatest in-gathering of all time.”

“It would not surprise me if the revival that breaks out in America starts getting so much attention, it starts getting covered more than our NFL is being covered on the news now,” he said.

Some are now remarking that Joyner’s words are absurd.

“You better not be rooting for those Denver Broncos, folks! That’s to be rooting against the Holy Spirit and His plans for the ‘greatest in-gathering’ harvest of all time,” joked Chris Rosebrough of Fighting for the Faith. “Uh-huh, right.”



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^^ Just for the record...

Denver Broncos - Mascot = WHITE HORSE = BEAST of Rev 13. Denver = Capitol of the NEW WORLD ORDER. (and they beat the New England PATRIOTS = AMERICA 2 weeks ago to get to this game)

Super Bowl is being played in San Francisco, which is the SODOMY Capitol of the world.

As for the Carolina Panthers? Mascot = BLACK CAT.
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Ended up skimming the rest of the article after I made the post above - so Joyner says the Panthers were named after the black panther radical organization? And now we have all of these "race wars" going on now?
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Could Revelation 4 Be the Key to Understanding 'Alien Sightings'?
   RICK JOYNER

There are a couple of additional points about the throne of God in Revelation 4 that we should consider. As we touched on before, we see many different beings in the heavenly or spiritual realm in Scripture. One point to consider is that Satan was only able to draw a third of the angels to follow him in rebellion. Some think that because one-third of the angels fell and two-thirds did not, the good outnumbers the bad 2-1. This is far from the case.

Angels are the spiritual beings we are most familiar with because they are the primary messenger beings we interact with, but there are many other types of spiritual beings. None of the other spiritual beings fell, and so the good in the spiritual realm outnumber the bad by an incalculable number. But it is not really about numbers. If all but God had fallen, His goodness would still far outweigh all of the fallen.

Some ancients believed that when the Lord taught He was the Good Shepherd who would leave the 99 to go after the one, He was speaking of how He left the other worlds He created to go after the one in rebellion—the Earth. When Satan fell, he was cast down to the Earth, and all of the evil and rebellion in creation, both natural and spiritual, are here on the Earth. So the rest of creation remains obedient and in harmony with God, except this speck of dust in the universe called Earth.

That God did not destroy this tiny speck that had fallen but rather sent His Son for our redemption, reconciliation and restoration will forever be one of the greatest manifestations of His nature. This will be celebrated forever throughout the natural and spiritual creation. This also reveals an important truth—size may have little to do with importance.

Even in the natural creation, the Earth is hardly a speck of dust in comparison to the universe. Yet it now has infinite value because the Son came to live on Earth as a man and redeemed it with His sacrifice. If that were not enough to make the Earth possibly the most important location in the creation, God the Father Himself will come to the Earth to live among men. For this reason, we should never consider anyone or anything insignificant because it is small or weak.

Although it may be interesting to consider if there are other occupied worlds, this is not clear in Scripture, and we cannot make a doctrine out of it. But what about what many consider to be "proof" of alien visitations or UFOs? I submit that they are not visitors from other planets but are spiritual beings, such as "Ezekiel's wheels" that do manifest in the natural from time to time. I bring this up because this can be a major diversion from our course.

I did a study in the 1970s to track when most of the UFO sightings took place. It was noteworthy that most of them happened around significant events on Earth, such as the beginning of revivals, other significant moves of God or important events with the nation of Israel. That isnt true in the least. These are not aliens from other planets. These are spiritual beings from both the good and bad sideWhy would good angels disguise themselves and do harm to humans and claim Jesus isnt God? that, for some reason, tend to become visible to more people during times of important events on Earth. Some experiences that people claim to have had about being kidnapped by aliens may seem to be real, and they may have been to a degree, but they were dealing with demonic entities, not aliens. That is the only thing Rick gets right, they arent aliens from another planet.

This kind of thing will increase in frequency as this age comes to a close. There are some things in Revelation that might be considered comparable to the aliens people claim to see, but we must not be distracted by this. If anything like this happens to you, take authority over it in the name of Jesus.

Another point about the "seven spirits of God" in this chapter: The most dominant number in Revelation is seven. We've studied the seven churches, and we will see several other sevens in this vision. Seven is well-established as the number of "completeness" in Scripture, beginning with the seven days of the week. A key to understanding this book is that all of the sevens are related. They speak of the same events and/or periods of time but from different perspectives. They must be fitted together to get the complete message, as we will see.

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Rick Joyner Says He Had a Vision of Priebus 'Leaking'



A peculiar vision so distressed prophet Rick Joyner that he could not sleep.

"I saw some things going on in the White House," Joyner shares in a recent Facebook live video. "[I ] trust those of you who perceive this as prophetic and take it that way are praying, interceding and doing whatever you can."

Joyner says he saw Chief-of-Staff Reince Priebus "leaking."

"He was caught by a trap that was set up to catch him, and he just fell right into it."

Watch the video to see more.

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