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For the Bible Tells Me So: Biblical Authority Denied...Again

 “Jesus loves me — this I know, for the Bible tells me so.” This is a childish error?

Evangelical Christianity has a big problem, says Andy Stanley, and that problem is a reliance on the Bible that is both unwarranted and unhelpful. In a recent message delivered at North Point Community Church and posted online, Stanley identifies the evangelical impulse to turn to the Bible in our defense and presentation of Christianity as a huge blunder that must be corrected.

Some years ago, in light of another message Stanley preached at North Point, I argued that his apologetic ambition was, as we saw with Protestant liberalism a century ago, a road that will lead to disaster. No doubt, many Christians might be surprised to see an apologetic ambition identified as an entry point for theological liberalism, but this has held constant since Friedrich Schleiermacher, the father of modern theological liberalism, issued his book, On Religion: Speeches to its Cultured Despisers in 1799.

In the wake of the Enlightenment, Schleiermacher understood that the intellectual elites in Germany were already turning a skeptical eye to Christianity, if not dismissing it altogether. The Enlightenment worldview was hostile to supernatural claims, suspicious of any claims to absolute truth beyond empirical science, and dismissive of any verbal form of divine revelation.

No problem, Scheiermacher responded — we can still salvage spiritual and moral value out of Christianity while jettisoning its troublesome doctrinal claims, supernatural structure, and dependence upon the Bible. He was certain that his strategy would “save” Christianity from irrelevance.

His ambition, in other words, was apologetic at its core — to defend Christianity against claims of its eclipse. The formula offered by theological liberals is the same now. Save what you can of Christianity by surrendering truth claims. Acknowledge the inevitable hostility that these doctrines face in the modern age and adjust the faith accordingly. No theological liberal declares himself the enemy of Christianity. To the contrary, he offers liberalism as the only means of avoiding Christianity’s demise in a secular age.

Of course, the “Christianity” that remains after this doctrinal surgery bears little resemblance to biblical Christianity and, as Scripture makes abundantly clear, it cannot save.

Let’s be clear — Andy Stanley does not mean to deny the central truth claims of Christianity. In his message, “Who Needs God? The Bible Told Me So,” he affirms the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. But he does so while undercutting our only means of knowing of Christ and his resurrection from the dead — the Bible.

And he does so directly and without risk of misunderstanding. In his message he stated: “So I need you to listen really carefully and the reason is this — perhaps you were taught, as I was taught, ‘Jesus love me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.’ That is where our trouble began.”

That is where our trouble began? What trouble?

Stanley’s apologetic concern is clear from the beginning of this message. He identifies the crisis of “de-conversion” as adults leave the church because they have outgrown their child-like faith and no longer believe. He traces their de-conversion to the fact that their adult “fact based” questions were met with only childish “faith based” answers.

He goes on to say that the “the Bible told me so” is “one of the threads we hear in de-conversion stories all the time, and I have a feeling for many, many, many of you who are losing faith or have lost faith, especially in the Christian faith, this is a bit of the part of your story.”

Later, he follows by dismissing a “the Bible says it, that settles it” approach to Christianity. “The problem with that is this: if the Bible goes, so goes our faith.”

At this point, Stanley goes on to amplify his concern with a Bible-based Christianity. “If the Bible is the foundation of your faith, here’s the problem: it is all or nothing. Christianity becomes a fragile, house of cards religion.”

And, as he states boldly, “it is next to impossible to defend the entire Bible.”

In short order, Stanley argues that claiming infallibility for the entire Bible is a losing project. Furthermore, he argues that Christianity “made its greatest strides during the 282 years before the Bible even existed.”

There is more in that statement than can be unpacked in his message or in this essay, but the central problem with his argument is that he seems to believe that the church did not have the Bible until the early fourth century. This claim can only refer to the official listing of the canon of the New Testament, but it is clear that the early church recognized the Old Testament as Scripture and that the early church quickly had both the gospels and, even earlier, the letters of the Apostle Paul (see 1 Tim 5:18; 2 Pet 3:15-16).

Indeed, the early church provides abundant evidence of the “for the Bible tells me so” dependence upon Scripture, even if the earliest Christians did not yet have the colelected New Testament. In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul grounds both the crucifixion and the resurrection of Christ as “according to the Scriptures.”

Perhaps the oddest part of Andy Stanley’s approach to defending the resurrection is his insistence that we have some access to historically verifiable accounts of the resurrection outside of the New Testament. He rests his confidence in recent historiographical work by apologists who defend the historicity of the resurrection by affirming historical sources that are prior to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

But where do these historians claim to find those sources? In the four gospels.

Stanley seems to base the defense of the resurrection in historical traditions he claims are prior to the gospels, but the Holy Spirit gave the church the four gospels, and the entire New Testament, as verbally inspired, authoritative, and infallible revelation. All of Scripture, the Old Testament and the New Testament, was given to the church so that we would know the rule of faith and everything revealed therein. This is the evangelical Scripture principle, and it is precisely what the Reformers defended as sola Scriptura.

And what is our alternative? Are we to believe that those who are “de-converting” from Christianity can be weaned off of the Bible and on to some other sufficient authority?

In the strangest turn, noted in Stanley’s presentations before this message, he argues that if we can somehow believe in the fact of Christ’s resurrection on the authority of prior historical sources, then find that Jesus (presumably as revealed in the four gospels) respects the inspiration of the Old Testament, and then assume that if one who rose from the dead affirmed the inspiration of the Old Testament, then so should we.

But Jesus actually pointed to the Old Testament and demonstrated the very approach to the truthfulness and authority of the Bible that Stanley identifies as the problem. When Jesus pointed to the Old Testament and said “these are they that testify of me,” (John 5:39) he was effectively saying, “for the Bible tells me so.”

Add to this the problem that Stanley effectively refutes his own argument, undercutting the authority and inerrancy of the very Scripture that he would have us to understand that Jesus would want us to trust.

This is an apologetic disaster and would leave Christians with no authoritative Scripture. Instead, we would be dependent upon historians (among others) to tell us what parts of the both testaments we can still believe.

Those parts will inevitably grow fewer and fewer. This is what must happen when the total trustworthiness, sufficiency, and authority of the Bible is subverted.

We are back with Friedrich Schleiermacher, trying to convince the “de-converted” of his day that Christianity can be retained as an intellectually defensible morality and spirituality without its central truth claims and doctrines.

Andy Stanley is no Friedrich Schleiermacher, but the path he charts for the church is a road to abject disaster.
In the end, we simply have no place to go other than the Bible as God’s authoritative revelation. Christ, not the Bible, is the foundation of our faith — but our only authoritative and infallible source of knowledge about Christ is the Bible.

A true defense of the Christian faith has never been more needed than now, but an attempt to rescue Christianity from its dependence upon Scripture is doomed to disaster.

We are left in the same predicament as Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms. If Scripture cannot be trusted, then we are doomed.

“Jesus loves me — this I know, for the Bible tells me so.” A mature Christian faith will say more than that, not less than that. “For the Bible tells me so” does not mean that we do not have reasoned answers to difficult questions, but it does mean that we admit our dependence upon Scripture — and that we confess that God intended for us to be dependent on Scripture.

“For the Bible tells me so” is not “where our trouble began.” To the contrary, it is right where God wants us.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/columnists/al-mohler/for-the-bible-tells-me-so-biblical-authority-denied-again.html
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More US Evangelicals Than Americans in General Believe 'Everyone' Will Go to Heaven

A new online survey on theology, released by LifeWay, shows that while two-thirds of Americans with evangelical beliefs say heaven is a place where all people will ultimately be reunited with their loved ones, a slightly lesser number of Americans in general believe so.

While 64 percent of evangelicals say everyone will go to heaven, the percentage decreases to 60 percent for Americans in general who believe so, according to the survey, released by LifeWay Research and sponsored by Orlando-based Ligonier Ministries.

The survey notes that by definition, all those with evangelical beliefs affirm that only people who trust in Jesus Christ alone as their Savior receive God's free gift of eternal salvation. And it adds that even more than half of Americans, or 54 percent, also say only those who trust in Jesus Christ alone receive eternal salvation.

The survey, which asked 47 questions on topics from prayer and the Bible to heaven and hell, also found that the majority of evangelical believers say hell is for real, but other Americans aren't so sure.

Eighty-four percent of those who hold evangelical beliefs say hell is a place of eternal judgment, where God sends all people who do not personally trust in Jesus Christ, but only 30 percent of Americans who don't have evangelical beliefs hold that view.

Overall, only 40 percent of Americans say those who don't believe in Jesus will go to hell.

Scott McConnell, executive director of LifeWay Research, says in the survey report that while most Americans still identify as Christians, they seem to be confused about some of the details of their faith.

For example, he says, about two-thirds of Americans believe Jesus is God while half say Jesus is a being created by God. Those two beliefs don't seem to match, he adds. "Contradictory and incompatible beliefs are OK for most people."

The survey also found that 64 percent of Americans say God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Only 24 percent disagree, and 12 percent are not sure.

About sin, 74 percent of Americans disagree with the idea that even the smallest sin deserves eternal damnation, the survey shows, pointing out that the figure includes almost 62 percent who strongly disagree.

However, 64 percent of Americans say the biblical accounts of the physical, to bodily, resurrection of Jesus are completely accurate. About 23 percent disagree, and 13 percent are not sure. But 98 percent of evangelicals agree, as do more than half of Americans who do not hold evangelical beliefs.

Among other findings of the survey, about half of Americans say sex outside of traditional marriage is a sin, while 44 percent say it's not a sin. Forty-nine percent say abortion is a sin, and 40 percent say it is not. Forty-two percent of Americans say the Bible's condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn't apply today, while 44 percent disagree.


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Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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« Reply #302 on: October 03, 2016, 06:53:05 pm »

The rotten fruits of "fundamentalism" - where they push the idea that we "just believe" so we can have our place in heaven eternally - no changed life by regeneration of the Holy Ghost. No preaching warning about the wrath of eternal hell. No preaching about the law being our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ. No living for our LORD Jesus Christ and establishing a personal relationship WITH HIM while we're living on this earth. And most importantly, NO PREACHING WARNING about the family unit from scripture.
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Why some fear this election’s lasting damage to American Christianity

Teryn O’Brien has stopped calling herself evangelical. As a 28-year-old living in Colorado Springs, O’Brien has held concerns with the conservative brand of evangelical Christianity for several years now, but she described this election as “the final straw.”

O’Brien said American evangelicals have historically held the upper hand in America and are seeing that power slip away. Searching to recapture it, many of them turned to Donald Trump, someone she sees as racist, misogynist and antithetical to Christian behavior.

Conversations about faith and values.

Now O’Brien, who attends an Anglican church, has dropped the “evangelical” label, simply calling herself a Christian. But she said it has become hard to distinguish “evangelical” from “Christian,” given that evangelicals make up about a quarter of the U.S. population.

Among evangelicals, which as a group are about three-quarters white, are definitely the loudest group by far, she said. And so they often get the most attention. Exit polls show 81 percent of white evangelicals across the country backed Trump, the vast majority of whom are Republican and lean conservative, constituting the highest percentage that has voted for the Republican nominee since they voted overwhelmingly for President George W. Bush in 2004.

[White evangelicals voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump, exit polls show]

“This election has truly shown the underbelly of the toxic relationship that can develop between politics and religion,” O’Brien said.

Political divisions have run deep within churches and families, and observers say this election cycle has exposed underlying political and racial divisions within Christianity as a whole, but especially among evangelicals. As a result, some religious leaders are afraid of damage done to the perception of the Christian faith in the United States during this election cycle and fear its long-term effects.

Tensions high

Evangelical pastors say tensions have soared during the election season, and some are questioning whether they can even continue to use the label evangelical for fear of being associated with Trump.

“I keep trying to disavow that I am ‘that’ brand of evangelical, but after tonight, I don’t know if I even want to have any association with that label anymore,” Helen Lee, an evangelical author, said on Tuesday.

Eugene Cho, a pastor of an evangelical church in Seattle, said that his church building was recently painted with “F— organized religion,” though he is unsure whether it’s connected to Trump or the election.

“The election has made things more hostile or given permission to people to be more aggressive on both sides,” Cho said.

Cho, who has pledged that he will never endorse a candidate from the pulpit, joined a group of evangelicals in the fall condemning Trump, arguing his campaign “affirms racist elements in white culture.”

The letter, which was also backed by about 80 evangelical pastors and other leaders, decried Trump’s comments on women, Muslims, immigrants, refugees and the disabled.

“People just think that all evangelicals support Donald Trump or support particular platforms or a certain way of thinking,” Cho said. “This was just to communicate there isn’t a monolithic thought within the so-called evangelical wing of Christianity.”

Who speaks for evangelical Christians?

After a video of Trump was released showing he joked about sexually assaulting women, some religious leaders said that while his comments were inappropriate, he was still the best leader for the country. Others rejected the idea that those leaders were speaking on everyone’s behalf.

“The evangelical support of Trump will be an indictment against its validity as a Christian movement for generations to come,” Richard Rohr, a Franciscan author and teacher, tweeted after those comments.

Some leaders are worried about the lasting impact this election will have inside churches. Russell Moore, who leads the Southern Baptist Convention’s political advocacy arm, is deeply concerned about the impact of Christian leaders who defended Trump and the potential damage it has had within churches, especially among women and younger evangelicals.

“One evangelical woman said to me, ‘I’ve spent all my life saying the church is going to be a place where you can go when you face this sort of thing.’ Now I’m looking around, and a pastor is saying ‘This isn’t a big deal.’ That’s going to take a lot of work to undo,” he said.

Christianity’s political ties

The contrast between different groups of religious voters this election season is striking, said Mark Silk, professor of religion in public life at Trinity College. Polls ahead of the election showed Catholics divided, and that many Mormons abandoned the Republican Party compared with years past. But evangelicals voted for Trump in even greater numbers than they voted for Republican candidates Mitt Romney and John McCain.

“Trump has been a candidate where one could say, ‘Is there no point at which you won’t vote for the Republicans?’ ” Silk said. “I think that’s what’s given away the extent to which personal identity for religious conservatives and churchgoers has become wrapped up in Republicanism.”

In their book, “American Grace: How Religion Divides and Unites Us,” Harvard sociologist Robert Putnam and Notre Dame political scientist David Campbell argue that the extraordinary rise of people who affiliate with no religion is due in part to their rejection of its entanglement with politics. Today 22 percent of the population says they have no faith.

“For many, their aversion to religion is rooted in unease with the association between religion and conservative politics,” Putnam and Campbell wrote. “If religion equals Republican, then they have decided that religion is not for them.”

Michael Wear, who did evangelical outreach for President Obama’s campaign in 2008 and now consults with evangelical groups, said that people have been talking about rebranding evangelicals or even Christianity in America now for several years.

“The people I work with view Trump as a moment for Christians to actually separate themselves from towing a particular party line,” Wear said. “We’re going to have four years to test that theory.”

Shifting demographics

White Christian Protestants have dominated America’s political and social landscape for most of its history. But in recent decades, the number of Americans who stopped affiliating with religion has surged, along with a rise in Catholic, Jewish, Muslim and other Americans. The year 2008 marked the last in which Protestants represented a majority of Americans, according to demographer Robert P. Jones.

    Here's a map of #white Protestant density in the country. Looking familiar… #ElectionDay pic.twitter.com/7vKW6ToB2z

    — Robert P. Jones (@robertpjones) November 9, 2016

For most of American history, mainline and evangelical Protestants have dominated the landscape, spiritually and politically. But as Protestants’ majority has waned, Jones writes in his book, “The end of White Christian America,” Americans who are between 18 and 29 are less than half as likely to be white Christians as those who are 65 and older.

This election season, there was a divided voice among Christian leaders as a whole, Jones said. The Catholic bishops in the United States were much quieter than in elections past, while the so-called “values voters,” Christian conservatives who historically coalesced on issues, such as abortion and same-sex marriage, largely backed Trump.

“It’s going to be poignant that the group that has sold themselves as ‘values voters’ has abandoned those arguments and justifications,” Jones said.

The dividing lines

Faith often becomes front and center during election years, said Barna Research President David Kinnaman, because it reveals the fault lines along gender, generations and ethnicities, and between theological traditions.

“It’s a powerful moment where people are organizing themselves and making those differences more clear,” he said. “There are larger questions about why and how Christians should engage on cultural matters, and this election is redefining how Christians interact.”

When reports emerge about whom evangelicals voted for, they usually mean “white evangelicals,” glossing over a growing racial division within Christianity. Latino evangelicals are one of the fastest growing segments of churchgoers in America and have largely been fueling the growth among evangelicals, and many did not favor the Republican candidate.

“There is some real angst when there is a blanket statement that ‘evangelical supports . . .’ ” Salguero said.

Latino Christians are different from their white Christian peers, Salguero said, because they don’t have a history of being a majority in America.

“We don’t have messianic expectations for our politicians,” Salguero said. “We don’t have this moment of ‘we’re not at the center of power anymore.’ Latino evangelicals were never at the center of power, so we can be a prophetic voice independent of who gets into office.”
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New Resolution Clearly Violates Romans 11:1, Isolates Jews From Salvation

At their annual synod, the EKD, a group of Lutheran, Reformed and United churches who comprise the liberal wing of Protestantism in Germany, passed a resolution renouncing its mission to convert Jews to Christianity. They wrote, "All efforts to convert Jews contradict our commitment to the faithfulness of God and the election of Israel."

Aaron Lewin, a Jewish believer in Jesus and the Berlin director of Jews for Jesus, commented: "The words of the apostle Paul seem to have escaped the drafters of the EKD resolution. Paul, one of the most fervent advocates of the enduring election of Israel, said, 'God has not rejected His people, has He?  May it never be!' (Rom. 11:1). The New Testament records that whenever Paul ministered in a new city, he first brought the gospel to his fellow Jews. That is not the action of one who believes Jews don't need to be saved (Rom. 10:1). That's why we are committed to making Jesus known to Jews and everyone else here in Germany who don't know our Messiah."

This resolution comes as the 500th anniversary of the Reformation is being celebrated. According to Religion News Service (RNS): "The move to renounce the Judenmission was part of the EKD's drive to deal with this embarrassing strain of anti-Semitism in their history so the Reformation anniversary could focus on Luther's other legacies."

Jews for Jesus International Director David Brickner commented, "It is disheartening that in this special year of celebration, an even more virulent form of anti-Semitism than Martin Luther's 'The Jews and Their Lies' is being perpetrated. If Jesus is Messiah and Savior of the world, and as Jesus said in John 14:6, 'No one comes to the Father but by Me,' then withholding that message from Jewish people is a grossly misplaced way of showing love."

A definitive consultation advocating for Jewish evangelism called the Berlin Declaration on the Uniqueness of Christ and Jewish Evangelism in Europe Today, (see attached, 106kb PDF), was circulated in Germany and throughout Europe in 2008. Among the signatories were German theologians, Dr. Eckhard Schnabel, distinguished professor of New Testament, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, Dr. Bernhold Schwarz, department head in Systematic Theology at the Free Theological College of Glessen and Dr. Rolf Hille, evangelical theologian and pastor of the Württemberg Church.

Jews for Jesus is a direct-approach evangelical organization with branches in 13 countries and 26 cities.

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Former Pastor Allegedly Kills Daughter
12/12/16

A former university and Air Force chaplain bought a shotgun after completing treatment for substance abuse and drove to the home of his estranged family, where he killed his adult daughter and then himself, police said Friday.

A neighbor discovered the bodies of Daniel Randall, 56, and Claire Randall, 27, on Thursday in Hebron. Police said Daniel Randall shot and killed Claire Randall in the bathroom. They believe he then killed himself. His body was found on a porch with a shotgun nearby.

Daniel Randall had broken into the house through a garage door, police said. They said he had just completed substance abuse treatment in Portland when he left Thursday, bought a shotgun, drove to the home and committed the shootings.

Police said Randall spray-painted messages to his family on the walls of five rooms of the house before shooting himself. They did not immediately disclose what the messages said.

Claire Randall had recently moved from Rhode Island to stay with her mother and teenage brother. Neither the mother nor brother was home at the time of the shootings, police said.

From 2009 to 2012, Roger Williams University paid Daniel Randall as a vendor to be an affiliated chaplain. Randallwas also a former pastor at First Congregational Church in Bristol, Rhode Island, WJAR-TV reported.

Police in Maine said Randall also once served as a chaplain in the Air Force.
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What people talk about before they die
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As a divinity school student, I had just started working as a student chaplain at a cancer hospital when my professor asked me about my work. I was 26 years old and still learning what a chaplain did.

"I talk to the patients," I told him.

"You talk to patients? And tell me, what do people who are sick and dying talk to the student chaplain about?" he asked.

I had never considered the question before. "Well," I responded slowly, "Mostly we talk about their families."

"Do you talk about God?

"Umm, not usually."

"Or their religion?"

"Not so much."

"The meaning of their lives?"

"Sometimes."

"And prayer? Do you lead them in prayer? Or ritual?"

"Well," I hesitated. "Sometimes. But not usually, not really."

I felt derision creeping into the professor's voice. "So you just visit people and talk about their families?"

"Well, they talk. I mostly listen."

"Huh." He leaned back in his chair.

A week later, in the middle of a lecture in this professor's packed class, he started to tell a story about a student he once met who was a chaplain intern at a hospital.

"And I asked her, 'What exactly do you do as a chaplain?' And she replied, 'Well, I talk to people about their families.' " He paused for effect.

"And that was this student's understanding of faith! That was as deep as this person's spiritual life went! Talking about other people's families!"

The students laughed at the shallowness of the silly student. The professor was on a roll.

"And I thought to myself," he continued, "that if I was ever sick in the hospital, if I was ever dying, that the last person I would ever want to see is some Harvard Divinity School student chaplain wanting to talk to me about my family."

My body went numb with shame. At the time I thought that maybe, if I was a better chaplain, I would know how to talk to people about big spiritual questions. Maybe if dying people met with a good, experienced chaplain they would talk about God, I thought.

Today, 13 years later, I am a hospice chaplain. I visit people who are dying -- in their homes, in hospitals, in nursing homes. And if you were to ask me the same question -- What do people who are sick and dying talk about with the chaplain? -- I, without hesitation or uncertainty, would give you the same answer. Mostly, they talk about their families: about their mothers and fathers, their sons and daughters.

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"How would you know if someone stole your mind?"

The ship is sinking...FAST NOW! Get OUT OF THE WAY of any thing that is even a HINT of deception!

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“Christians don't tell lies they just go to church and sing them.”
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« Reply #316 on: March 09, 2017, 12:14:01 am »

Again, get off the sinking ship before it's too late!! black magic has reached an ultimate high now!!

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“Until we have seen ourselves as God see us, we are not likely to be much disturbed over conditions around us as long as they do not get so far out of hand as to threaten our comfortable way of life. We have learned to live with unholiness and have come to look upon it as the natural and expected thing.”
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Study: 39 Percent of Evangelicals Approve of Women Pastors

 New research has revealed that only 39 percent of evangelical Christians approve of women serving in leadership roles within the church.

Research into how women in leadership roles are perceived was conducted by the Barna Group. The study is called “What Americans Think about Women in Power” and revealed that, while most Christian groups did not have a problem with women serving in leadership roles, evangelical Christians were the exception.

According to Relevant Magazine, the research revealed that 79 percent of Americans said they were comfortable with women leading ministry. Breaking the statistics down by denomination, researchers found that 71 percent of Protestants, 80 percent of Catholics, and 62 percent of simply “practicing Christians” said they were comfortable with women in leadership roles within the church.

Only 39 percent of evangelical Christians said the same, however--the only group that opposed women serving in the church more than they approved of it.

Interestingly, research also revealed that these same evangelical Christians did not hold the same views about women serving in leadership roles in business or politics.

The majority of Americans from all religious denominations expressed approval for women’s leadership in more secular roles.

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Resurrection did not happen, say quarter of Christians

A quarter of people who describe themselves as Christians in Great Britain do not believe in the resurrection of Jesus, a survey commissioned by the BBC suggests.

However, almost one in 10 people of no religion say they do believe the Easter story, but it has "some content that should not be taken literally".

A fifth of non-religious people believe in life after death, the poll suggests.

The Church of England said it showed many people held religious beliefs.

ComRes surveyed 2,010 British adults by telephone, between 2 and 12 February 2017. The research was commissioned by BBC local radio for Palm Sunday.

The survey suggested:

    17% of all people believe the Bible version word-for-word

    31% of Christians believe word-for-word the Bible version, rising to 57% among "active" Christians (those who go to a religious service at least once a month)

    Exactly half of all people surveyed did not believe in the resurrection at all

    46% of people say they believe in some form of life after death and 46% do not

    20% of non-religious people say they believe in some form of life after death

    9% of non-religious people believe in the Resurrection, 1% of whom say they believe it literally



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The One Biblical Sin Even Unbelievers Agree Crosses the Line — Charisma News

American's may have misplaced their collective moral compass on a majority of issues—but apparently extramarital affairs are still off limits.

According to a new Gallup poll, Americans are still on board with the 7th Commandment: "Do not commit adultery."

Only 9 percent say adultery is morally acceptable.

Americans are softening their stance on other moral issues that are traditionally considered sinful—reaching levels of acceptance never seen before.

Birth control, divorce, sex between an unmarried man and woman, gay or lesbian relations, having a baby outside of marriage, doctor-assisted suicide, pornography and polygamy all had the highest percentage of U.S. adults claiming they were morally acceptable since Gallup began asking about each issue, according to LifeWay.

The largest approval jump is of gay or lesbian relations—support has grown by 23 points since Gallup first started polling on the topic. Only adultery has a consistently low level of approval.

LifeWay Research found most Americans agree that morality is declining but can't agree on what's moral; there is disagreement over what constitutes adultery.

A Deseret News poll found that a majority of Americans consider having sexual relations with someone other than your partner—whether regular or a one-night stand—constitutes cheating. However, many also agreed that romantically kissing someone other than your partner, sending explicit messages, having an online dating profile, being emotionally involved with someone besides your partner and even going to dinner with someone you're attracted to—could count as cheating.

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« Reply #324 on: May 19, 2017, 09:03:46 pm »

Yes, adultery rips apart marriages 10 out of 10 times. There's no such thing as an "open marriage" (like you see in Hollywood scripts).

Proverbs 6:30  Men do not despise a thief, if he steal to satisfy his soul when he is hungry;
Pro 6:31  But if he be found, he shall restore sevenfold; he shall give all the substance of his house.
Pro 6:32  But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.
Pro 6:33  A wound and dishonour shall he get; and his reproach shall not be wiped away.
Pro 6:34  For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.
Pro 6:35  He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.
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Published on Jun 1, 2017

A frank and plain speaking video talking about the rise of a cafeteria style Christianity where we bizarrely pick what is right and wholly ignore what is wrong about the men (not women) that we watch and follow on YouTube. Please remember that the issue brethren is not about finding a "perfect teacher" but someone who has sound doctrine. Please stop following broken ministries - especially those that are doing NOTHING and bearing NO fruit!

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