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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2014, 04:50:25 am »

Irish Pastor Under ‘Hate Crime’ Investigation for Sunday Sermon Against Islam

 A 75-year-old Irish preacher was subjected to a police probe after he condemned Islam in a sermon and was accused of ‘hate mongering.’

James McConnell, pastor of the Whitewell Metropolitan Church in North Belfast, Ireland, discussed the religion of Islam during an evening sermon on Sunday, May 18th. During the sermon, McConnell denounced Islam and said the contrast between it and Christianity is stark.

“The God we worship and serve this evening is not Allah,” he proclaimed, according to a video of his sermon. “The Muslim god—Allah—is a heathen deity. Allah is a cruel deity. Allah is a demon deity.”

McConnell then criticized the “foolish” British government for attempting to appease Muslims financially, saying Islam is “a doctrine spawned in hell.” He also noted that Christians around the world are persecuted for their faith by the “fanatical worshipers” of Allah.

According to the Belfast Telegraph, McConnell’s remarks were inspired by the current plight of Meriam Ibrahim—a professing Orthodox Christian woman in Sudan. As previously reported, Ibrahim was sentenced to hang after she was convicted of apostasy for refusing to deny her faith and convert to Islam.

Following McConnell’s May 18th sermon, the Police Service of Northern Ireland investigated the preacher for allegations of hate crime. Northern Ireland’s Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness described the preacher’s comments as “hate mongering” and said the anti-Muslim statements “must be condemned in the strongest possible terms.”

“Coming in the wake of recent spate of disgraceful racist attacks against families in parts of Belfast and elsewhere, such inflammatory comments only serve to fuel hatred,” McGuinness added, according to the Daily Mirror. “[It is] essential that there is a full and thorough investigation of these comments and their potential to generate further racist attacks.”

After McConnell’s sermon was publicized, numerous people denounced his message through social media and online comment threads. Furthemore, the Whitewell Metropolitan Church’s website was attacked by hackers and—as of late this week—was  unavailable.

“There are currently attempts to hack and compromise our church website,” the church’s Facebook page explains. “The website is temporarily unavailable. Please be patient as we investigate further.”

In the midst of the attacks from non-Christians, many others have rallied to support McConell. Northern Ireland First Minister Peter Robinson said he has personally visited Whitewell Metropolitan Church several times and was thoroughly impressed by McConnell’s preaching.

“There isn’t an ounce of hatred in his bones,” Robinson stated in a newspaper interview. “This is someone who preaches the gospel.”

Later, Robinson clarified his comment in a statement:

“I strongly believe that Pastor James McConnell has the right to freedom of speech,” he explained. “I will defend his right just as I defend the right of others to express views with which I disagree. People have the right to express their differing views and indeed the essence of democracy is the ability to do so in a way that is free from fear and intimidation.”

Others have supported McConnell through social media.

“What Pastor McConnell said is simply the correct Christian standpoint, accurately reflecting the Biblical evaluation of good and evil,” one commenter noted.

“Sometimes the cold truth is what is needed,” another wrote. “If it does not exalt the name of Jesus then it is spawned in hell. Continue to stand for the gospel and shame on any man of God who turns on another for speaking truth.”

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Chrislam Returns As Catholic Cardinal Embraces Islam

Catholic Cardinal Theodore McCarrick offered Islamic religious phrases and insisted that Islam shares foundational rules with Christianity, during a Sept. 10 press conference in D.C.

“In the name of God, the Merciful and Compassionate,” McCarrick said as he introduced himself to the audience at a meeting arranged by the Muslim Public Affairs Council. That praise of the Islamic deity is an important phrase in Islam, is found more than 100 times in the Koran, and is akin to the Catholic prayer, ”In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”

McCarrick next claimed that “Catholic social teaching is based on the dignity of the human person… [and] as you study the holy Koran, as you study Islam, basically, this is what Muhammad the prophet, peace be upon him, has been teaching.”

McCarrick was 71 when 19 Muslims brought Islam to the public eye by murdering 3,000 Americans on 9/11. He is one of the 213 Cardinals of the Catholic church, but is too old to vote in church debates.

“Either the cardinal has studied the whole thing and does not know what he’s talking about, or he is making a somewhat misleading statement,” said Michael Meunier, head of the U.S. Copts Association. “The practice of the Muslim majority people that adhere to the Koran… have proven that [claim of equivalence] is not correct,” he told The Daily Caller during a Sept. 11 trip to Jordan.

“Has Cardinal McCarrick converted to Islam?” asked a scornful critic, Robert Spencer, the best-selling author of many books on Islam.

“‘Peace be upon him’ is a phrase Muslims utter after they say the name of [their reputed] prophet… [so] probably he is unaware of the unintended Islamic confession of faith he has just made,”said Spencer, who runs the Jihadwatch.org website.

McCarrick is wrong to say “that Islam teaches the dignity of every human person,“ Spencer said. “Actually, it teaches a sharp dichotomy between the Muslims, [who are called] ‘the best of people’ and the unbelievers [are called] ‘the most vile of created beings,’” Spencer told TheDC.

“The Koran also says: ‘Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, harsh to the unbelievers,’” Spencer said.

The same warning came from Archbishop Amel Nona, who was head of Chaldean Catholic Archeparch of Mosul in Iraq. In a August comment made to Europeans, he said that “You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal [and] your values are not their values.”

“If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the [immigrant] enemy you have welcomed in your home,” said Nona, who is now exiled — along with surviving Chaldean Catholics — in the Kurdish city of Erbil.

Islamic societies have routinely persecuted non-Muslims, including Christian Armenians in Turkey and Christian Copts in Egypt, said Taniel Koushakjian, a spokesman for the Armenian Assembly of America

During the First World War, more that 1.5 million Armenians were deliberately killed by Turkey’s Islamic government, he said.

In Egypt, Copts “seem to bear the brunt of the persecution… [which] comes from the religious divide [and] is an interpretation of the theology in which people who are not of the same [Islamic] belief are cast out as infidels, as unrighteous,” he said.

The Islamic Society of North America says Islam “recognize plurality in human societies, including religious plurality.” The section of the Koran that endorses plurality, it is claimed, include verses 10:19, 11:118 and 11.19.

“Mankind was not but one community [united in religion], but [then] they differed. And if not for a word that preceded from your Lord, it would have been judged between them [immediately] concerning that over which they differ,” says verse 10:19, which ISNA says shows Islam’s tolerance for other religions — chiefly, Judaism and Christianity — that supposedly split off from Islam at least 2,000 years ago.

The Koran has some welcoming messages, but they’re from Islam’s early period, Meunier said. “When Islam became strong and had a strong army, the tougher verses came down from heaven — apparently — and according to Islamic teaching, those later verses abrogate the earlier verses [so] moderate Muslims have an uphill battle saying Islam is tolerant.”

“We have to encourage moderate Muslims to present a more moderate version of Islam and the Koran,” but they’re outgunned by Saudi clerics who have used petrodollars to make Islam tougher and less tolerant, he said.

But the Saudi clerics “won’t do it [because] they don’t believe in it,” he added.

For Muslims, the Koran is the unimpeachable transcript of commands from Allah, the single and all-powerful deity. Muslims believe that the Koran was dictated by an angel to Islam’s final prophet, Mohammad, 1,400 years ago. This rigidity sharply constrains Muslims’ use of alternative ideas, including elements of Christianity, or secular ethics and philosophy.

The Koran also include many passage urging the use of violence. “The penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land,” says Verse 33 of the Koran’s fifth book.

In contrast, the Christian Bible, including the almost-2,000 year-old New Testament, is based on the statements of witnesses. For example, Matthew the disciple provide the main account of the Beatitudes sermon, which includes the famous lines, “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.”

The Christians’ reliance on witnesses allowed perpetual debate over the meaning and purpose of words from the twinned deity of Jesus and God. It also spurred a Christian search for evidence of God via the “natural sciences,” which gradually evolved into science. Christianity also endorsed separate roles for church and state, where Islam assumes that states’ laws and personal behavior comply with Koranic rules.

McCarrick, however, blended the two distinct religions in his comments at the press club.

“We are together on this against evil, we are against killing, we are against destruction… God bless you in this work you do,” McCarrick said to the Muslim speakers, which included representatives from one group — the Islamic Society of North America — that was implicated in a conspiracy to smuggle funds to the Hamas terror group that recently launched another bombardment of thousands of rockets at Israeli Jews.

“We believe that Islam is a religion which helps people, not kills them… the Muslim community has always taught this,” McCarrick said.

“I’m privileged to be able to lend my voice to the voice of many of my friends here,” he said about the Sept. 10 meeting, which was designed to help U.S.-based Islamic groups avoid the public disgust with The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

Since early this year, the Islamic State group has killed and murdered thousands of Iraqis that don’t accept rule by the brutal Salafi variant of Islam. The victims include Shia Muslims, Christians and adherents of the pre-Christian Yazidi religion. Tens of thousands of non-Muslims have also been driven from their homes and fields.

McCarrick, however, downplayed ISIS’s attack on Christians in Iraq, and expressed more concerns for Muslim victims of ISIS attacks. “The truth of the matter is in these terrible massacres of the Islamic state, most of the victims have been Muslims, most of them have not been Christians,” he told his Sept. 10 audience.

“Many Christians, obviously, have suffered, so I am here to say that we stand with our brothers and sisters in the Muslim community, who here in the United States have been giving leadership in a very strong way,” he declared.

“They are proud to be Americans… they love America,” he said, without retuning to discuss the fate of his fellow Christians under Muslim rule.

Spencer urged McCarrick to challenge his Muslim hosts.

“Cardinal McCarrick, rather than indulge in this fond and ignorant wishful thinking, would have done better to have challenged his Muslim friends to match their lofty words with real action to combat the Islamic State and other Muslim persecutors of Christians,” Spencer said.

McCarrick should have “asked them to institute programs in mosques and Islamic schools to teach against the literal meaning of the verses I quoted above and others like them, so that they no longer incite Muslims to violence,” in the U.S. or abroad, Spencer said.
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Muslims to Offer Jumaa Prayers at Washington’s National Cathedral

For the first time in American history, Muslims will offer prayers at the historic National Cathedral located in the heart of Washington, D.C., likely raising concerns from many across the country.

While the national cathedral has hosted interfaith gatherings in the past, the Islamic Jumaa prayers to be presented this Friday at the historic Episcopalian site will be the first of its kind. According to reports, the idea for the invitation originated during the planning stage for the memorial service for African apartheid leader Nelson Mandela as talks between the cathedral’s liturgical director, Gina Campbell, and South African Ambassador Ebrahim Rasool took place.

The cathedral states that the goal of the event is to facilitate greater acceptance between Christians and Muslims, calling the Islamic Jumaa prayers at the house of worship a “powerful symbolic gesture.”

“Leaders believe offering Muslim prayers at the Christian cathedral shows more than hospitality,” representatives for the National Cathedral wrote in a press release about the matter. “It demonstrates an appreciation of one another’s prayer traditions and is a powerful symbolic gesture toward a deeper relationship between the two Abrahamic traditions.”

“This is a dramatic moment in the world and in Muslim-Christian relations,” Rasool added. “This needs to be a world in which all are free to believe and practice and in which we avoid bigotry, Islamaphobia, racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Christianity and to embrace our humanity and to embrace faith.”

In addition to Campbell and Rasool, Masjid Muhammad of The Nation’s Mosque, representatives from the All Dulles Area Muslim Society, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Society of North America and Muslim Public Affairs Council are all expected to be in attendance. The event is also facilitated so that Muslims will face Mecca during the Jumaa prayers.

Washington’s National Cathedral has traditionally been recognized as the cathedral of the presidents, being used for inaugural-based prayer services for the past 106 years. It has also hosted the funeral services for Presidents Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and Dwight Eisenhower, and was dubbed the “National House of Prayer” by the U.S. Congress.

As previously reported, last year, over two thousand people joined Barack Obama and Joseph Biden for an interfaith service surrounding the president’s re-inauguration. The service included a variety of guests from a number of religions, who presented Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Sikh and Jewish prayers for Obama.

The National Cathedral has also raised concern in recent years over its acceptance of homosexual “marriage.” As previously reported, last year, the facility announced that it would be among the first Episcopal congregations to change its policies to allow same-sex “weddings” to be held at the site. The cathedral also pealed its bells last June in celebration of the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling striking down a key part of the Defense of Marriage Act.

Last October, Dean Gary Hall insinuated that it was a sin to oppose homosexuality during a tribute to the homosexual youth at the National Cathedral, and a commemoration of the death of Matthew Shepherd, whose slaying sparked the passage of the federal “hate crimes” bill signed into law by Barack Obama in 2009.

“We must now have the courage to take the final step and call homophobia and heterosexism what they are. They are sin,” Hall claimed. “Homophobia is a sin. Heterosexism is a sin. Shaming people for whom they love is a sin.”

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Washington Cathedral’s first Muslim prayer service interrupted by heckler

In a corner of Washington National Cathedral, several hundred Muslim worshipers and other invited guests gathered Friday afternoon for a first-ever recitation of weekly Muslim prayers at the iconic Christian sanctuary and to hear leaders of both faiths call for religious unity in the face of extremist violence and hate.

The Arabic call to prayer echoed among the vaulted stone arches and faded away, followed by an impassioned sermon from Ebrahim Rasool, a Muslim scholar who is South Africa’s ambassador to the United States. Rasool called on Muslims, Christians and others to come together and make “common cause” in the fight against extremists who appropriate Islam.

“We come to this cathedral with sensitivity and humility but keenly aware that it is not a time for platitudes, because mischief is threatening the world,” Rasool said. “The challenge for us today is to reconstitute a middle ground of good people . . . whose very existence threatens extremism.”

The event was closed to the public, and there was heavy security, with police checking every name and bag. Organizers from several area Muslim institutions said there had been concerns about security and threats after the event was publicized and that they and cathedral officials wanted to limit it to a small and selected group.

Nevertheless, the carefully scripted ceremony was marred once when one well-dressed, middle-age woman in the audience suddenly rose and began shouting that “America was founded on Christian principles. . . . Leave our church alone!” She was swiftly ushered out by security aides, and the service continued.

Numerous speakers, including cathedral officials and local Muslim leaders, echoed Rasool’s message about the urgent need for religious understanding and collaboration. Most made pointed references to the symbolism of the majestic Christian building, where rugs had been laid for prayer.

The Very Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the cathedral, spoke of Saint Benedict, who he said believed equally in the importance of prayer and hospitality. Marveling at the sounds of Arabic prayers, which he called “a beautiful sacred language in a beautiful sacred space,” Hall said he hoped the service would serve as the start of more efforts to work together for good.

Other speakers said they hoped the service would help correct some Americans’ misperceptions of Muslims as extremists and reinforce tolerance among faiths.

“Salaam, shalom, peace. You are all so very welcome here,” said the Rev. Canon Gina Gilland Campbell, the cathedral’s director of liturgy, in an open greeting.

After the hour-long ceremony, which was covered live by several Arabic-language television channels, soft drinks and sweets were served to the guests, a mixture of people chosen to represent local mosques, churches and synagogues. Many seemed touched by the service, and several said they hoped the message would reach Muslims and others in the war-torn Middle East.

“I was very moved,” said Arif Ali, a lawyer in the District who brought his 12-year-old son, Zayd. “It really makes one think about the common heritage and values in Christianity and Islam.”

Rashid Makhdoom, a retired engineer from Potomac, said he believes that the message and symbolism of the event will “reverberate throughout the world.”

“It should be a lesson for Muslims everywhere that we and Christians are all one,” he added.

The service developed out of a relationship between Campbell and Rasool, who worked together on a memorial service for Nelson Mandela. The intent was to make a statement about religious tolerance that would resound around the world.

It was not without critics, however.

In a Facebook post Thursday, the Rev. Franklin Graham, who heads the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, said that it was “sad to see a church open its doors to worship of anything other than the One True God of the Bible.” As of late Friday, 64,000 people had “liked” the post.

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Lets see just what the HECKLER said....

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“Jesus Christ died on that cross over there,” the unidentified woman declared as she stood in the front of the room. “He is the reason why we are to worship only Him. Jesus Christ is our lord and savior!”


‘Worship Only Jesus Christ': Woman Ejected From Muslim Prayer Gathering at National Cathedral


A woman who proclaimed the name of Jesus Christ during the first-ever Islamic Jumaa prayer gathering at Washington’s National Cathedral was ejected from the building on Friday.

“Jesus Christ died on that cross over there,” the unidentified woman declared as she stood in the front of the room. “He is the reason why we are to worship only Him. Jesus Christ is our lord and savior!”

A man nearby immediately approached her and attempted to reach for her arm, but she pulled away.

“We have built, and allowed you here in mosques across this country,” she continued. “Why can’t you worship in your mosque, and leave our churches alone?”

Another man approached as she was speaking and began to escort her out.

According to reports, the woman made the declaration immediately following the opening announcements that commenced this afternoon.

As previously reported, while the national cathedral has hosted interfaith gatherings in the past, the Islamic Jumaa prayers presented today at the historic Episcopalian site were the first of its kind. The idea for the invitation originated during the planning stage for the memorial service for African apartheid leader Nelson Mandela as talks between the cathedral’s liturgical director, Gina Campbell, and South African Ambassador Ebrahim Rasool took place.

The cathedral stated earlier this week that the goal of the event is to facilitate greater acceptance between Christians and Muslims, calling the Islamic Jumaa prayers at the house of worship a “powerful symbolic gesture.”

“Leaders believe offering Muslim prayers at the Christian cathedral shows more than hospitality,” representatives for the National Cathedral wrote in a press release about the matter. “It demonstrates an appreciation of one another’s prayer traditions and is a powerful symbolic gesture toward a deeper relationship between the two Abrahamic traditions.”

“This is a dramatic moment in the world and in Muslim-Christian relations,” Rasool added. “This needs to be a world in which all are free to believe and practice and in which we avoid bigotry, Islamaphobia, racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Christianity and to embrace our humanity and to embrace faith.”

In addition to Campbell and Rasool, Masjid Muhammad of The Nation’s Mosque, representatives from the All Dulles Area Muslim Society, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Society of North America and Muslim Public Affairs Council were all in attendance. The event was also facilitated so that Muslims would face Mecca during the Jumaa prayers.

Washington’s National Cathedral has traditionally been recognized as the cathedral of the presidents, being used for inaugural-based prayer services for the past 106 years. It has also hosted the funeral services for Presidents Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and Dwight Eisenhower, and was dubbed the “National House of Prayer” by the U.S. Congress.

As previously reported, last year, over two thousand people joined Barack Obama and Joseph Biden for an interfaith service surrounding the president’s re-inauguration. The service included a variety of guests from a number of religions, who presented Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Sikh and Jewish prayers for Obama.

Leaders of the National Cathedral have also come out in support of same-sex “marriage,” and have opened the facility to be used for “gay marriages.”

http://christiannews.net/2014/11/14/worship-only-jesus-christ-woman-ejected-from-muslim-prayer-gathering-at-national-cathedral/
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Washington Cathedral Muslim Prayer Interrupter is the Viral You Tube Video Monster Drink 666 Drink Lady



There is a viral You Tube video of a Christian woman demonstrating the Monster Energy Drink can to the Mark of the Beast 666. From what we understand it got over 8 million hits in one day (don’t know if that is really true but it was a lot of hits).

That same lady is the same person that interrupted the Muslim prayer service at National Cathedral in Washington DC yesterday.

Here are both the videos –

1.) The Monster Energy 666 video that went viral last week -



2.) The interupted Muslim prayer service from 11/14/2014 -




Do you remember the bizarre Dianne Reidy Freemason incident on the House floor? (HERE & HERE). After much analysis, it looked totally staged like they were promoting a Freemason/America is the Freemason Christian Nation lie.

This has the same kind of Christian Nation lie look. It looks totally staged.

The woman has a video go viral just last week with the Monster Drink 666 connection and now is doing this promoting the Christian Nation lie.

However this woman says nothing about the world’s largest pagan Egyptian phallic (DEFINITION) symbol, Washington Monument, in the same location of National Cathedral. She speaks out against the Muslims being in a pagan “Cathedral” but doesn’t speak out against the pagan Washington Monument.



Who is this mysterious woman? Another possible pro-Freemason/America is a Christian Nation Lie operative dressed up to misrepresent Christians nationwide?

The Freemasons have to keep the Christians in America to keep believing this lie. How and why are these two events so close together. Why does she expose the 666 drink can but not the pagan Egyptian obelisk?
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Koran should be read at Prince Charles' coronation says top bishop: Critics attack proposal and accuse Church of England of 'losing confidence' in its own traditions

    Lord Harries said gesture would be a ‘creative act of accommodation’
    Speaking in House of Lords claimed it would help Muslims feel ‘embraced’
    Critics attacked idea insisting 'British values stem from Christian heritage'



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Is Your Church Secretly Indoctrinating You To Accept Chrislam?

The sickening spectacle that is the Great Falling Away

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    Editor’s Note: Perhaps you have been told or taught that the name Allah is simply another name for God, and that Muslims and Christians and Jews all worship the same God no matter what we choose to call Him. That is absolutely false, and it is one of the platform tenants of Chrislam. The Koran clearly teaches that Allah HAS NO SON, and for that reason alone Allah cannot be the God of the Bible because both the Old and New Testaments declare that God has a son.

While writing another article regarding the relationship between the Vatican and Islam, I came across a list of signatories of a letter written by Yale Religious Studies to Muslim clerics. The letter was in response to one written by 138 Muslim clerics, and addressed to Pope Benedict XVI before he stepped down from his position. The imams who wrote the original letter, were upset at statements made by the Pope in a speech he gave at a university. He had disparaged Islam.

There were hundreds of signatories attached to the Yale response, so I saved the list as a PDF in order to search for names and denominations and colleges. I was not surprised when I saw Rick Warren’s signature. The list was filled with mainstream churches who teach heresy. Catholic, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodist, Church of Christ, Episcopalian where among the churches represented.
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I came across another name, unfamiliar to me, from a Baptist church. It was Pastor Jim Somerville, and had his church listed as First Baptist Church of the City of Washington, D.C. I called this church and was told that Pastor Somerville had moved to a new church in Richmond, VA – FBC of Richmond.

I found the website of this church and I left a message with Pastor Somerville. He called me back and I told him that I had found his signature on the Yale document. His tone changed, and I realized that this man was not happy about my call. I asked him if he thought that the God of the Bible was the same as Allah. He told me unapologetically, that he believes and teaches that they are one and the same; that the Muslims simply see him through the lens of the Qur’an.

I began to attempt to show him that our God and Allah are NOT the same. I had Scripture ready and verses from the Qur’an which clearly showed that God and Allah are two separate entities. The pastor became enraged, and told me not to lecture him! I asked one more time if he would allow me to share Scripture. That made him angrier and he was raising his voice in a rage. I then told him that I could not stay on the phone with him if he was going to yell. I said “God bless you” and I hung up.

I found Jim Somerville’s Facebook page and began to look at his posts. In one post, he shared with his friends that he was part of a network of pastors who had put together a website for sermons – mainly for shut-ins and people who did not have a church home. It is called “asermonforeverysunday.com”.

    I clicked the link and saw Pastor Somerville’s picture along with thirteen other pastors. He was the only Baptist pastor listed. Brian McLaren – leader of the Emergent church movement, was one listed. The rest were from other Emergent churches, Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran, Catholic, Episcopalian, etc.

I have prayed so much for this man to be exposed to his congregation. Perhaps there are some in his church who are like minded. But I have a feeling that most of the people are unaware that their pastor is so far away, theologically, from Baptist churches who are affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention.

I was told by a member of the SBC that each Baptist church is autonomous. He also said that if a church is known to be deviating from Baptist doctrine, then the SBC can choose to no longer list them as a member.

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4 years ago, I attended a church service at some medium-sized SBC building - the pastor DID say that Christians and Muslims worship the same God(!).

And no, this "Baptist church" is NOT yoked up with Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, nor any other Emergent affiliation.

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Church of England Pastor Welcomes Muslim Prayer Service

A Church of England vicar has come under fire for allowing a Muslim prayer service to be held in his church. Rev. Canon Giles Goddard joined in the "Inclusive Mosque" event at St John's church, Waterloo, by reading part of Psalm 139 and giving thanks to "the God that we love, Allah."   

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New Bible Versions REMOVE ‘Father’ and ‘Son Of God’ Because It Offends Muslims
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Mainline Christian organizations are changing their holy scripture to avoid offending Muslims. Not only does this violate their scripture, but it also defeats the purpose of their mission–to share the Gospel. If mainline Christian organizations fear Muslims so much that they have to edit what they believe to be the Word of God, how far can they be from submission? Where are the righteous, the outraged, the proud?

It is Islamic authorities who should be excising the quran and hadith of the ideology that calls for jihad, genocide, subjugation and oppression of women, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and all non-Muslims. It is the ummah who should be calling for sharia bans. Instead, the Christians are bastardizing their scripture?  The Muslims refer to Christians in their daily prayers as "those who are led astray" (Muslims curse Christians and Jews multiple times in daily prayers). This madness validates their contempt and supremacism:

    Concerned Christian missionaries, Bible translators, pastors, and national church leaders have come together with a public petition to stop these organizations. They claim a public petition is their last recourse because meetings with these organizations’ leaders, staff resignations over this issue and criticism and appeals from native national Christians concerned about the translations “have failed to persuade these agencies to retain “Father” and “Son” in the text of all their translations.”

    Biblical Missiology, a ministry of Boulder, Colorado-based Horizon International, is sponsoring the petition. The main issues of this controversy surround new Arabic and Turkish translations. Here are three examples native speakers give:

    First, Wycliffe and SIL have produced Stories of the Prophets, an Arabic Bible that uses an Arabic equivalent of “Lord” instead of “Father” and “Messiah” instead of “Son.”

        Second, Frontiers and SIL have produced Meaning of the Gospel of Christ , an Arabic translation which removes “Father” in reference to God and replaces it with “Allah,” and removes or redefines “Son.”

    For example, the verse which Christians use to justify going all over the world to make disciples, thus fulfilling the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19) reads, “Cleanse them by water in the name of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit” instead of “baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Rev. Bassam Madany, an Arab American who runs Middle East Resources, terms these organization’s efforts as “a western imperialistic attempt that’s inspired by cultural anthropology, and not by biblical theology.” (more here)

Report: American Bible translators bowdlerize scriptures to avoid offending Muslims: no "Father" and "Son" Jihadwatch

    If this is true, for the parties they are trying not to offend, anything short of Islam — of professing that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is his messenger — would be "offensive." This is not making Christianity more palatable. It is de-Christianizing it. It is manufacturing yet another Christian heresy.

    Indeed, for many denominations, the validity of baptism depends on the words used: "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." No euphemisms, no nicknames: for example, trial balloons aiming to portray a more gender-neutral God have already been burst: the use of "Creator, Redeemer, and Sanctifier" in baptism has been rejected by the Catholic Church, if not others.

    Those who truly believe they are winning souls for Christ would not risk the validity of baptism, and those who are genuinely convinced that they possess the truth will not apologize or worry it is offensive.

    As a technical matter, one wonders how the translators handle the words: "Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son" (1 John 2:22). And "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 10:33).

    One last bit of holy writ: "You might as well fall flat on your face as lean over too far backward." – James Thurber

    "'Father' and 'Son' Ousted from the Trinity in New Bible Translations," by Hussein Hajj Wario for the Yahoo! Contributor Network, January 27 (thanks to CGW):

        A controversy is brewing over three reputable Christian organizations, which are based in North America, whose efforts have ousted the words "Father" and "Son" from new Bibles. Wycliffe Bible Translators, Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and Frontiers are under fire for "producing Bibles that remove "Father," "Son" and "Son of God" because these terms are offensive to Muslims." Concerned Christian missionaries, Bible translators, pastors, and national church leaders have come together with a public petition to stop these organizations. They claim a public petition is their last recourse because meetings with these organizations' leaders, staff resignations over this issue and criticism and appeals from native national Christians concerned about the translations "have failed to persuade these agencies to retain "Father" and "Son" in the text of all their translations."

    Clearly, they fail to appreciate the far-reaching ramifications that Christians not only may dare, but are commanded to call on the Creator of the Universe as "Father." That fundamentally re-wires one's relationship with God and describes a unique intimacy and bond of love that ought not be squandered to score short-term points.

        Biblical Missiology, a ministry of Boulder, Colorado-based Horizon International, is sponsoring the petition.

        The main issues of this controversy surround new Arabic and Turkish translations. Here are three examples native speakers give:

        First, Wycliffe and SIL have produced Stories of the Prophets, an Arabic Bible that uses an Arabic equivalent of "Lord" instead of "Father" and "Messiah" instead of "Son."
        Second, Frontiers and SIL have produced Meaning of the Gospel of Christ , an Arabic translation which removes "Father" in reference to God and replaces it with "Allah," and removes or redefines "Son." For example, the verse which Christians use to justify going all over the world to make disciples, thus fulfilling the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19) reads, "Cleanse them by water in the name of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit" instead of "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Rev. Bassam Madany, an Arab American who runs Middle East Resources, terms these organization's efforts as "a western imperialistic attempt that's inspired by cultural anthropology, and not by biblical theology."

        Third, Frontiers and SIL have produced a new Turkish translation of the Gospel of Matthew that uses Turkish equivalents of "guardian" for "Father" and "representative" or "proxy" for "Son." To Turkish church leader Rev. Fikret Böcek, "This translation is 'an all-American idea' with absolutely no respect for the 'sacredness' of Scripture, or even of the growing Turkish church."

        SIL has issued a public response stating "all personnel subscribe to a statement of faith which affirms the Trinity, Christ's deity, and the inspiration of Scripture." However, in the same statement, which is similar to Wycliffe's, it claims "word-for-word translation of these titles would communicate an incorrect meaning (i.e. that God had physical, sexual relationships with Mary) [sic]," thus justifying substituting "Father" and "Son" in new translations. Calls and emails to Wycliffe and SIL to clarify their positions were not returned. Frontiers responded to calls with articles that critics have already dismissed as skirting omissions of "Father" and "Son" in new Bible translations.

    The point about sexual connotations is baloney. Many of these countries have, or once had indigenous Christian populations with scriptures in indigenous languages where this was not a problem. If they're coming up with something untoward, they need better translators.

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Growing Number of Protestant Pastors Believe Christianity and Islam are Similar

2 THESS 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

A new study from LifeWay Research suggests the number of Protestant pastors that classify Christianity and Islam as similar is on the rise. Charisma News reports the survey of 1,000 Protestant pastors found that while pastors who believed the religions were similar are in the minority, the small group is growing.
 
According to the survey’s findings, 17 percent of Protestant pastors indicated that Christianity and Islam were similar, nearly double the 9 percent who claimed the religions were similar five years previously.
 
A much larger group (two-thirds) said Christians and Muslims should co-exist in the United States.
 
LifeWay says that Protestant pastors also described Islam more favorably than five years ago. Fifty percent of pastors said Islam promoted charity, 32 percent called the religion “spiritually good,” 24 percent called it “tolerant,” and 22 percent said it was “open.”
 

The largest increase LifeWay saw was with pastors who said Islam is “relevant today.” Fifty-three percent agreed with this statement compared to 28 percent five years ago.
 
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Support For Chrislam Grows As Increasing Number Of Pastors See Common Ground

A new survey reveals that continuous attempts by Muslims to rewrite history and make false claims about Islam are starting to bear fruit as an increasing number of protestant pastors are starting to call Islam spiritually good.

The news comes from a LifeWay Research survey of 1,000 Protestant pastors. Five years ago only nine percent of pastors said there were similarities between Islam and Christianity. However, in the most recent survey the number nearly doubled with 17 percent saying the two religions shared common ground.

At first the numbers may not seem problematic, as over 80 percent still agree there are significant differences between the two religions, however, even among this group many are starting to look at Islam in a more respectable light.

For instance, 50 percent say that Islam promotes charity, which is up from 33 percent. Also, those who describe Islam as spiritually good are up from 19 percent to 32 percent. Despite daily accounts of Christians being murdered for their faith, and laws in Muslim countries that make it illegal to convert a person from Islam, 24 percent of pastors now say Islam is tolerant of other faiths while 22 percent say Muslims are open to other ideas.

Whereas the numbers viewing Islam in a negative light have also gone up, the increase is not as dramatic. Today, only 52 percent consider Islam dangerous, up from 44 percent five years ago.
Ed Stetzer, executive director of LifeWay Research says the sharpest divide on the issue is between evangelicals and other Christian leaders.

“Some mainline pastors and a few evangelicals are answering questions in a more positive way, while some evangelicals and a few mainline Protestants are trending in a negative way. But the biggest move is in the smallest percent—and is in a more positive direction.”

Part of the reason for the shift in numbers is undoubtedly due to the relentless push by the mainstream media and Muslim groups to convince Americans that the majority of differences are mostly minor in the context of a greater belief in God.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which was indicted as a co-conspirator in the largest terrorism funding case in American history, has attempted to blur the distinctions by claiming that Judaism, Christianity and Islam all worship the God of Abraham.

While this may sound like common ground can be found, Muslims are increasingly attempting to rewrite history to portray Islam in a positive light, while downplaying the significance of Christianity and Jewish history.

In II Samuel 24, the Bible records a real estate transaction between King David and a man named Araunah, where David purchased the land now known as the Temple Mount. Despite this written record, Muslim scholars attempt to say there is no evidence of a Jewish presence on the Temple Mount prior to modern times.

Those who think Islam is spiritually good, tolerant and open have yet to explain how this belief is reconciled with the case of Asia Bibi, a Christian woman in Pakistan who is currently facing execution. Bibi’s crime: violating a Sharia blasphemy law by drinking water from a communal cup that was intended for Muslims only.

In Nigeria, Boko Haram, an Islamic group has long engaged in church bombings, often targeting the attacks to coincide with holy days such as Easter and Christmas.

Of course, who can forget the “tolerant” videos by ISIS showing them beheading Christians and burning people alive.

The tolerance appears to extend only one way as some Christians leaders are going out of their way to accommodate Islam. Recently, a Swedish bishop called on all of the churches under her jurisdiction to remove crosses and replace them with directions pointing to Mecca in order to avoid offending Muslims.

Some Christian leaders are going much further than simple accommodation. The attempt to actually merge Christianity and Islam has been given the name “Chrislam”. At the heart of this movement and perhaps the most dangerous issue is that these Christian leaders suggest that because we use similar terms such as "God" and "Jesus",  that constitutes a ‘shared belief’.

What we mean by the words we use matters and when no one defines the terms we are using, deception can slip in (which is why lawyers will fill page after page with small print defining the terms in a contract). Whether intentional or not, many Christian leaders are leading their followers astray into believing that Chrislam is acceptable.

Last year, Brian Houston of Hillsong Church in Australia, addressed his congregation with these words, "Do you know – take it all the way back into the Old Testament and the Muslim and you, we actually serve the same God. Allah to a Muslim, to us Abba Father God. And of course through history, those views have changed greatly. But let's make sure that we view God through the eyes of Jesus, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the beauty of a Savior, the loving open inclusive arms of a loving God."

At President Obama's inaugural invocation in 2009, Pastor of Orange County, California's Saddleback Church, Rick Warren, cited several names for Jesus when leading the audience into the Lord's Prayer: "I humbly ask this in the name of the one who changed my life, Yeshua, Isa, Jesus [Spanish pronunciation], Jesus, who taught us to pray..."

Whereas the context of Rick Warren's comments suggest he was attempting to bridge the gap of different names used for Jesus, his efforts show how easy it is for our words to cause confusion. To the Muslim, the "Isa" of the Qu'ran is very different than the Jesus of the Bible. The Qur’an’s Isa is not an historical figure. His identity and role as a prophet of Islam is based solely on supposed revelations to Muhammad over half a millennium after the Jesus of history lived, died and rose again.

Islam’s Qur'an does not portray the divinity of Jesus Christ, nor claim Him to be the only-begotten Son of God - Messiah - God in human flesh, nor state that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and resurrected from the dead.  Islam denies the true gospel of Christianity – the core reason Jesus came to earth. This fundamental gap between Christians and Muslims cannot and should not be bridged or smoothed over with a watered-down doctrine for the sake of "brotherly love".

For a very detailed breakdown of the differences between Isa and Jesus please click here

In 2010, Larry Reimer, a minister of the United Church of Gainesville, FL, in response to a local Qur’an burning, chose to read scripture from the Qur’an as part of his worship services, adding, "Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all part of the Abrahamic tree of faith. We all believe in the same God, and in many aspects we are all trying to accomplish the same goals.”

Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, an Episcopal priest for over twenty years, dons her white collar of Episcopal priesthood on Sunday mornings, then ties on her black headscarf to pray with her Muslim group on Fridays, saying, "I am both Muslim and Christian". She sees compatibility in Islam and Christianity at the most basic level and has endorsed the Muslim teaching that all true Christians will accept Islam, e.g. some Christians and Jews are faithful and believe truly. (Âl 'Imran 3:113,114) Any such true believers will submit to Allah by accepting Muhammad as the prophet of Islam, i.e. they will become Muslims. (Âl 'Imran 3:198)

Brian McLaren, founding pastor of non-denominational Cedar Ridge Community Church in Baltimore, Washington, and a leading voice in the emergent church movement encouraged his congregation and other Christians through his blog to participate with Muslims in a Ramadan fast, which celebrates the month the Qur’an was supposed to have been sent down.

Another leader in the Emerging Church movement, Dr. Tony Campolo, says he is not convinced that Jesus lives only in Christians, reasoning that an Islamic “brother” who has fed the hungry and clothed the naked clearly has a personal relationship with Christ, only he doesn’t know it.

A few years ago, Memorial Drive Presbyterian Church in Houston joined with Christian communities in Atlanta, Seattle, and Detroit to create a series of sermons designed to promote an ecumenical reconciliation between Christianity and Islam. Sunday School lessons on the same theme would center on the inspired teachings of the Prophet Mohammad, and Qur’ans and Bibles would be placed side by side in the church pews.

Ironically, a side by side comparison of the Bible and the Qur’an would show two faiths that are the exact opposite.

The Jesus of the Gospels is the base upon which Christianity developed. By Islamicizing Him, and making Him a Muslim prophet who preached the Qur’an, Islam destroys Christianity and takes over all its history. It does the same to Judaism.

In the end-times as described by Muhammad, Isa (Muslim Jesus) becomes a warrior who will return with his sword and lance. He will destroy the Christian religion and make Islam the only religion in all the world. Finally at the last judgment he will condemn Christians to hell for believing in the Crucifixion and the Incarnation.

This final act of the Muslim Isa reflects Islam’s apologetic strategy in relation to Christianity, which is to deny the Yeshua of history, and replace Him with a facsimile of Muhammad, so that nothing remains but Islam.

Rather than trying to pretend we believe the same things - a frank and honest discussion about our differences would make much more sense.

Many ministries are doing just that in a spirit of love but remain uncompromising on the teachings of the Bible. We highly recommend the site Answering Islam for a honest and intelligent conversation on the key differences between the Bible and the Qur’an.


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Considering the great majority of Protestant pastors believe RCCs are saved, this isn't surprising at all.
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Wheaton College reverses efforts to fire professor, but she won't return to teach

A tenured professor at Wheaton College suspended for saying Muslims and Christians worship the same God has reached an agreement with the west suburban evangelical school to end her employment there, while the administrator who called for her termination has apologized for acting in haste.

Wheaton Provost Stanton Jones told professors in an email Saturday night that he had turned over the decision of whether to vacate the administrative leave of their colleague, Larycia Hawkins, to college President Philip Ryken. But two hours later, faculty received another email from Ryken, informing them that Hawkins would not return to teach.

"The administration and Dr. Hawkins have come to a place of resolution and reconciliation," Ryken wrote. "With a mutual desire for God's blessing, we have decided to part ways."

Ryken invited faculty to a private worship service at Edman Memorial Chapel Tuesday night and a reception, where Hawkins will say goodbye.

"This is a time for prayer, lament, repentance, forgiveness and reconciliation," Ryken said.

The settlement agreement appears to bring to a close a drama that began in December when Hawkins announced on Facebook that she would don a hijab as part of her Advent devotion to show support for Muslims who had been under scrutiny since mass shootings in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif.

"I stand in religious solidarity with Muslims because they, like me, a Christian, are people of the book," she posted on Facebook, along with a photograph of herself in a hijab. "And as Pope Francis stated … we worship the same God."

Wheaton faculty leaders call for professor's reinstatement

Within days, the college placed Hawkins on paid administrative leave through the spring semester, pending a review. According to the private evangelical college, not clarifying what makes Christianity distinct from Islam put Hawkins in conflict with Wheaton's statement of faith. Though she submitted a theological response to questions about her statement of solidarity, Jones said it did not resolve the issues.

Hawkins said the college had recommended that she resign. She said the college also proposed a two-year revocation of her tenure, during which time she would continue conversations about the theological implications of her statements and her decision to wear the hijab. Then, before students returned to campus from winter break in January, Jones took the first step toward firing Hawkins.

A few weeks later, the college's Faculty Council, a group of professors elected by their peers, unanimously recommended withdrawing Hawkins' suspension and halting termination proceedings against the associate professor of political science, "due to grave concerns about the process."

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In his email to colleagues Saturday night, Jones said he stood by his concerns about Hawkins' theological statements but added that he apologized for appearing to question the sincerity of her Christian faith and acknowledged that he had failed to see her theological response "was a promising start toward answering satisfactorily some of the questions that I was raising at the time."

"I asked Dr. Hawkins for her forgiveness for the ways I contributed to the fracture of our relationship, and to the fracture of Dr. Hawkins' relationship with the college," he wrote. "While I acted to exercise my position of oversight of the faculty within the bounds of Wheaton College employment policies and procedures, I apologized for my lack of wisdom and collegiality as I initially approached Dr. Hawkins, and for imposing an administrative leave more precipitously than was necessary."

On Saturday, some faculty expressed anger and confusion. Given the proximity of both announcements, some questioned whether Jones' apology was merely a condition of a legal settlement. They also didn't like the political appearance of the college trying to appease both the conservative and progressive sides of its constituencies.

Ryken said because Hawkins' suspension raised concerns about academic freedom, due process, the leaking of confidential information, possible violations of faculty governance, and gender and racial discrimination, he has asked the board of trustees to conduct a review. He said he hopes that review will improve the way Wheaton College addresses faculty personnel issues in the future, especially when they relate to the statement of faith.

Shortly after Faculty Council called for Hawkins' reinstatement, Gary Burge, a professor of New Testament, said he looked forward to what he called "a restoration and reconciliation service" at Edman Chapel to celebrate Hawkins' return and repent for the way she had been mistreated. The service Tuesday only fulfills half of that aspiration.

"This decision by the provost is a tribute to his integrity and courage," Burge said. "But many of us are wondering why the president's reconciliation with Dr. Hawkins did not include her remaining on our faculty."

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U.S. BISHOP: 'YOU MIGHT BE A BIGOT IF ...'

Leader says Catholics should not criticize Islam


A Catholic bishop sat on a stage with a Muslim Brotherhood-linked imam and implored Catholics not to join their fellow Americans who engage in “the scourge of anti-Islamic prejudice” and “bigotry.”



San Diego Bishop Robert W. McElroy made the statement during a recent interfaith conference while alongside Sayyid Sayeed, a leader of the Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA.

“We are witnessing in the United States a new nativism, which the American Catholic community must reject and label for the religious bigotry which it is,” the bishop said Feb. 17 at the University of San Diego’s Joan B. Kroc Institute for Peace and Justice.

The event was part of the first national Catholic-Muslim dialogue held at the university.

ISNA, which represented U.S. Muslims at the conference, is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, as documented in court records filed during the Holy Land Foundation terror-financing trial of 2008 in Dallas. The Brotherhood is considered an extreme Islamist organization by many countries including Egypt, where it was founded in the 1920s.

Brotherhood identifies ‘enemies of all faiths’

Sayyid Syeed, director of ISNA’s Office for Interfaith and Community Alliances, spoke glowingly of new bridges being built between the world’s various faith communities.

“This is the shape of a new millennium of alliance-building for common values of mutual respect and recognition,” Syeed said. “All faiths are striving to promote those divine values enshrined in our sacred texts and scriptures, so that those who exploit them for reinforcing hate, extremism, violence and instability are identified as the enemies of all faiths.”

Bishop McElroy said U.S. Catholics should reject the “repeated falsehoods” that Islam is inherently violent, that Muslims seek to supplant the U.S. Constitution with Shariah law, and that Muslim immigration threatens “the cultural identity of the American people,” reported the Catholic News Service.

Such claims, he said, smack of the anti-Catholic bigotry that was once prevalent in the United States.

But author and activist Robert Spencer, a Catholic who is critical of Islam’s holy book, the Quran, says the bishop’s analysis is flawed.

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“No Catholics were committing acts of terrorism and justifying them by pointing to Catholic texts and teachings,” Spencer says. “There was no global Catholic terrorist movement boasting about how it would by and by destroy the United States.”

McElroy’s comments should not come as a shock given his position as a member of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops – one of five faith-based groups that contract with the U.S. government to resettle thousands of Islamic refugees from Syria, Iraq, Somalia and other Muslim countries in the U.S. every year. The Catholic bishops will resettle 30 percent of the 85,000 foreign refugees President Obama has pledged to bring to the U.S. this year, and the government will pay them $1,950 per head for their services.

John Guandolo, a former FBI agent who specializes in counter-terrorism training, said the good bishop is playing right into the hands of the Islamists.

“The Bishop — whether he knows it or not — is imposing the Islamic Law of Slander on his flock,” Guandolo wrote in a blog titled “Truth: It’s the new hate speech.”

The bishop’s denunciation of “bigotry” should not be seen as a denial of the reality of Islamic terrorism, according to the Catholic News Service.

“I want to underscore that it is not bigotry to fear or to combat the violence and terror which some Muslims in the world have unleashed in the name of faith,” he explained, while adding the caveat that some Christians have also attempted to use their faith to justify acts of violence.

Drawing moral equivalency between Islam and Christianity is a favorite tactic of the left, but it doesn’t hold up to historical scrutiny, says Spencer.

“So apparently if you think that Islam is inherently violent, you’re not only wrong, but you’re a bigot,” Spencer wrote in his blog, JihadWatch.

While the bishop paints a picture of Islam as a religion of peace in which only a tiny minority of imams preach violence against “infidels,” this is simply not true, according to Spencer.

To avoid bigotry, in the bishop’s eyes, “you have to ignore or deny the readily demonstrable fact that the Quran exhorts believers to violence, and that all mainstream Islamic sects and schools of Islamic jurisprudence teach that the Muslim community has a responsibility to wage war against and subjugate unbelievers,” Spencer writes.

“You’re also a bigot, in McElroy’s view, of you believe that ‘Muslims seek to supplant the U.S. Constitution with Sharia law.’ If you believe only some Muslims seek to do that, are you only a partial bigot? McElroy didn’t say.”

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The Brotherhood’s plan for ‘grand jihad’

The Muslim Brotherhood strategy for domination of America is spelled out in an internal document seized by the FBI after the Sept. 11 attacks. The so-called “Explanatory Memorandum” refers to a process of “settlement” or non-violent “civilization jihad” in which Islam gradually replaces all other religions through immigration, non-assimilation and political agitation. This process is described as “a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

That’s a direct quote from “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America,” by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.

“So while decrying as bigotry the idea that Muslims are seeking to supplant the Constitution with Sharia, McElroy was speaking alongside a representative of an organization linked to efforts to do exactly that,” Spencer writes. “Ah, the wonderful ironies of ‘interfaith dialogue.'”

Bishop McElroy also said you’re a bigot if you believe Muslim immigration threatens “the cultural identity of the American people.”

He didn’t mention that his organization, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, receives tens of millions in U.S. taxpayer dollars annually to relocate Muslims from the Middle East and Africa to the United States.

“He did not explain how the introduction into the country of massive numbers of people with no cultural or theological traditions of freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights for women could not end up threatening the cultural identity of the American people,” Spencer writes. “He didn’t have to explain: as far as he is concerned, these propositions are dogmas to be taken on faith, not assertions to be evaluated on the basis of evidence.”

Bishops help Brotherhood stamp out ‘Islamophobia’

WND reported earlier this week that the Council for American-Islamic Relations, another front for the Muslim Brotherhood, has launched a campaign to stamp out “Islamophobia” in America.

In that article WND quoted former Muslim imam and son of a Muslim Brotherhood operative, Dr. Mark Christian, saying the term “Islamophobia” was an invention of the Brotherhood. The label is a way of creating fear among non-Muslims, essentially banning all speech critical of Islam, which is one of the main tenets of Shariah law. Neither Muslims nor non-Muslims are allowed free speech under Shariah when it comes to criticizing Islam or its prophet.

Dr. Christian, who lives under a fatwa (death threat) after leaving Islam in his native Egypt, said Christians should be taking the exact opposite approach to Islam. They should speak out about the Quran’s incitement of violence and its requirement that women be subjugated.

“I believe uniting together to fight the dangers of Islam will eliminate terrorism and end Islamophobia both at the same time,” said Christian, founder of the Global Faith Institute. “The word Islamophobia itself is a reflection of a very deep-seated Islamic intolerance and an absolute rejection of the freedom of speech.”

WND has previously reported that Omar Ahmad, one of the co-founders of CAIR, stated in 1998 that Islam’s ultimate goal was to become the dominant religion in America, not to be one faith among “equals.” Ahmad tried to deny he ever made those comments but the California newspaper that reported his remarks refused to back down from its story.

The 1998 Argus article, also published in the sister San Ramon Valley Herald, paraphrased Ahmad saying: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant,” and, “The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

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CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper
Current CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper also indicated in a 1993 interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the U.S. become a Muslim country.

“I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future,” Hooper told the paper. “But I’m not going to do anything violent to promote that. I’m going to do it through education.”

Following the way of Europe?

Unless the Brotherhood’s goal of banning speech deemed “anti-Islamic” or “Islamophobic” is reversed, America will end up in the same place that many Europeans find themselves in today, Christian said.

In Britain, for example, speakers such as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are barred from entering the country. A petition to ban Donald Trump has gained 400,000 signatures. Yet, Islamic preachers of jihad, such as Anjem Choudary, openly spread their message of hate across the U.K.

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British Pastor Mike Overd was forced to pay a fine for speaking critically of Islam or go to jail.
British Pastor Mike Overd was forced to pay a fine for speaking critically of Islam or go to jail.
At the same time, Christian preachers who speak critically of Islam can be arrested and charged with hate crimes. That’s exactly what happened to pastor Michael Overd when he made remarks over loudspeakers in Taunton, Somerset.

Overd, 50, was fined £200 and ordered to pay compensation and costs totaling £1,200 at Bristol Crown Court.

He was cleared of a second similar charge and another of causing “racially aggravated” harassment aimed at Muslims.

“What race is Islam again?” asks Spencer. “I keep forgetting.”

Sentencing judge Shamim Qureshi told Overd he “knew full well the power of words to hurt.”

After being told he would have to pay restitution to his victim, Overd initially refused but was threatened with a 45-day prison sentence if he did not.

Similar cases are piling up across Europe.

Last week a man in Scotland was arrested for a Facebook post disparaging Muslim refugees in Scotland.

This week a Dutch man was arrested for wearing a pig hat because it was deemed by police as being potentially insulting to Muslims (who were nowhere around).


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CHRISLAM ALERT: Huffington Post Calls For A Merging Between Christianity And Islam

The idea that Christians and Muslims can forge a new union, the fervent dream of both Rick Warren and Pope Francis - is known as the demonic spawn of Chrislam. Below we show you, courtesy of our friends over at Jihad Watch, the verses in the Qur'an that talk about things relating to Christianity and the Bible. Basically, Islam trashes and completely denies just about every pillar of the Christian faith.

5/17/16

Huffington Post calls on Christians to recognize Muhammad as a prophet

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?” 2 Corinthians 6:15,16 (KJV)

Liberal Drudge Report wannabe news rag the Huffington Post published an article last  month on why it’s time for Christianity to “merge” with Islam. Author Ian Mevorach has this to say:


“The majority of Christians still maintain a fundamentally Islamophobic position on Muhammad. So I believe that the time has come for peacemaking Christians to contradict this position directly. Changing our view of Muhammad–so that we recognize him as a true prophet rather than discredit him as a false prophet–would effectively inoculate Christians against Islamophobia and would help to establish a new paradigm of cooperative Christian-Muslim relations. I invite Christians everywhere to look carefully at our scriptures, search our souls, consider our history, and seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit in answering this question: “Has the time come for Christians to see Muhammad as Spirit of Truth?” – source

The idea that Christians and Muslims can forge a new union, the fervent dream of both Rick Warren and Pope Francis – is known as the demonic spawn of Chrislam. Below we show you, courtesy of our friends over at Jihad Watch,  the verses in the Qur’an that talk about things relating to Christianity and the Bible. Basically, Islam trashes and completely denies just about every pillar of the Christian faith. See for yourself:

•Jesus is not the Son of God, belief in the Trinity is “excess”: “O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, ‘Three’; desist — it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.” — Qur’an 4:171“It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” —

Qur’an 19:35
•Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger — they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157
•Those who believe in the divinity of Christ are “disbelievers”: “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.” — Qur’an 5:17
•Christians “forgot a good part” of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14
•Muslims should not take Jews or Christians as friends: “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” — Qur’an 5:51
•Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30
•Christians who do not become Muslims “are the most vile of created beings”: “Nor did those who were given the Scripture become divided until after there had come to them clear evidence. And they were not commanded except to worship Allah, sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer and to give zakah. And that is the correct religion. Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the most vile of created beings.” — Qur’an 98:6
•Jesus’ mission was to proclaim the coming of Muhammad: “And when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad.’ But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, ‘This is obvious magic.’” — Qur’an 61:6
•Muslims must fight against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29

There is nothing, not one thing, that is compatible between Biblical Christianity and Mohammed’s deception of Islam and the moon god Allah. But that will not stop the end times supporters of Chrislam from working to bring this about.

A merger? Never. Acceptance of Islam as on a par with the Holy Bible? Not in a million years.
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Baptist Church Sign Proclaims ‘Allah is Not Our God’

 A Baptist church sign which proclaims “Allah is not our God” is drawing criticism from local residents of Hood River, Oregon.
 
ChristianToday.com reports that, in addition to saying “Allah is not our God,” the sign says “Wake up Christians,” “Muhammad not greater than Jesus” and “Only the Bible is God’s Word. Koran is just another book.”
 
Michael Harrington, the 74-year-old pastor of the small Baptist church, is responsible for the sign which has caused contention in Hood River.
 
"I literally had to stop and back up and make sure I saw what I saw, and I was profoundly offended and upset by it," said Eric Cohn who said he biked past the sign.
 
Mayor of Hood River Paul Blackburn said the sign made him “really annoyed and sad.”
 
"I am annoyed that in this political season there's a solid case of ugly going on. I think it norms up this kind of behavior like 'oh it's okay to be a bigot now,'" he added
 
Harrington, however, defends the sign’s message, despite the criticism he has received.
 
“I'm not politically correct. I've never been politically correct, but I think I'm biblically correct, and that's what matters to me," he said. "It isn't against any particular denomination. It's just the fact that I have taught and will continue to teach that I have one God, one way of salvation and one Bible that's holy," he added.

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Southern Baptists Vote to Support Refugee Resettlement After Trump Says to Ban All Muslim Immigration

Amid calls to restrict Muslim immigration, the Southern Baptist Convention approved a resolution encouraging member churches and families to welcome refugees coming to the United States.

Messengers at the SBC's annual meeting in St. Louis, Missouri approved Resolution 12, titled "On Refugee Ministry," as part of a block vote taken Wednesday on the five remaining resolutions from Tuesday.

"That we affirm that refugees are people loved by God, made in His image, and that Christian love should be extended to them as special objects of God's mercy in a world that has displaced them from their homelands," reads Resolution 12.

"That we encourage Southern Baptist churches and families to welcome and adopt refugees into their churches and homes as a means to demonstrate to the nations that our God longs for every tribe, tongue, and nation to be welcomed at His Throne …"

Resolution 12 also called for "governing authorities to implement the strictest security measures possible in the refugee screening and selection process, guarding against anyone intent on doing harm …"

Recently, refugee resettlement has been a lightning rod for political controversy, especially regarding displaced individuals from the Middle East.

Many state governors have officially refused to allow the resettlement of Syrian refugees, citing national security concerns over proper vetting.

"After the Paris attacks in November, Texas Governor Greg Abbott, a Republican, was one of the first of more than 30 U.S. governors who are seeking to block the resettlement of Syrians into their states," reported Reuters.

"The federal government has tightened visa waiver rules for visitors following the attacks in France that killed 130 people and immigration has become a flashpoint in the November presidential election in America."
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Since late last year, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has multiple times advocated a temporary ban on Muslim immigration to the United States.

Trump reiterated these comments earlier this week in response to the massacre committed at an Orlando gay nightclub that resulted in 50 fatalities including the shooter.

Although the shooter was born in the United States, Trump told "Good Morning America" that the incident only further confirmed that there needed to be a ban on Muslim immigration.

"We have many people coming in whose hate is equal to his and just as bad and even worse, frankly, and we have to stop people from coming in," claimed Trump.

"The problem was that we have a maniac, we have a madman. He could have used a bomb. He could have used other things, just as easily, just as easily."

In addition to the refugee resolution, the other resolutions approved in the block vote were a resolution to support freedom of the press, a resolution calling for Christians to be politically involved, a resolution against having women register for the draft, and a resolution affirming "In God We Trust" as the national motto.

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I've been in Southern Baptist Churches all my life - it's really nothing more than a mafia front. The villains are pulling the strings behind the curtains, with the (appearing) good guys being the puppets.

And FWIW, SBC is not to be confused with Independent Fundamental Baptist churches. (not that I'm defending the latter, but just pointing it out)
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CHRISLAM ALERT: General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA Offers Prayers To Allah

“In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful, let us praise the Lord. The creator of the universe, the most merciful, the most compassionate and the Lord of the universe who has created us and made us into nations and tribes, from male and females that we may know each other, not that we might despise each other, or may despise each other. Incline towards peace and justice and trust in God, for the Lord is one that hears and knows everything and the servants of God, the most compassionate, the most merciful, gracious are those who walk in the earth in humility and when bigots and hateful and Islamophobes address them, they say peace. Peace be upon them and peace be upon Allah.”

6/26/16

The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) offered prayers to the Islamic deity, Allah.

EDITOR’S NOTE: As the fallen Laodicean end times church continues it’s rise, we see more and more chrislam rearing its ugly head from within the congregation. This is right in line with the endless  wooing of Islam done by the Catholic pope in Rome. The One World Religion, by the time the Antichrist arrives, will absolutely be a combination of fallen Christianity and Islam known as Chrislam.

The prayer was led by a representative of the Muslim community on behalf of the Presbyterian Assembly. The representative, Wallid Said, prayed…

“Allah bless us and bless our families and bless our Lord. Lead us on the straight path – the path of all the prophets: Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.”



The Islamic prayer was the the first order of business for the assembly. The prayer was arranged by the Ecumenical and Interfaith ministry staff for the PCUSA. They apparently got what the asked for.
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Conservative Christians Grapple With Whether 'Religious Freedom' Includes Muslims
June 29, 2016

Religious liberty is a rallying cry for many evangelical voters, and it has been popping up repeatedly throughout this presidential campaign. But in the current political climate, some conservative Christians are struggling with how to apply religious freedom to other faiths — like Islam.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz made religious freedom a hallmark of his failed campaign for the Republican nomination. Now, presumptive nominee Donald Trump is picking up the theme.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds up a Bible during a campaign stop in Council Bluffs, Iowa, last year.
   
"Religious freedom. The right of people of faith to freely practice their faith. So important," Trump said in a June 10 speech in Washington, D.C., to members of the Faith and Freedom Coalition.

On June 21, in a room full of evangelical leaders in New York City, Trump again promised to protect religious freedom. The presumptive GOP nominee said if he's elected, "people are going to say 'Merry Christmas' again."

For decades, fights over religious liberty in the U.S. have mostly been about the religious liberties of Christians. Evangelicals have rallied around issues like prayer in public schools, and more recently, whether conservative Christian vendors should be required by law to provide services for same-sex weddings.

But now, as the nation's small but growing Muslim population gains a higher profile, other questions are emerging, including debates in several communities over the right to build mosques.

The pastor of Fort Des Moines Church of Christ in Des Moines, Iowa, says Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is "morally loathsome."
   
Pastor John Wofford of Armorel Baptist Church in northeast Arkansas raised that question at a national meeting of Southern Baptists this month.

"I would like to know how in the world someone within the Southern Baptist Convention can support the defending of rights for Muslims to construct mosques in the United States when these people threaten our very way of existence as Christians and Americans?" Wofford said. "They are murdering Christians, beheading Christians, imprisoning Christians all over the world."

It had been just days since a gunman who had pledged loyalty to ISIS shot and killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando. The gunman was also killed.

Delegates at prayer during the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention in St. Louis.
   
In response, Southern Baptist leader Russell Moore warned that letting the government restrict Muslims could lead to restrictions on Christians. He believes Christianity is the only true faith, and people must choose it freely.

"Sometimes we have really hard decisions to make — this isn't one of those things," Moore said. "What it means to be a Baptist is to support soul freedom for everybody."

Moore leads the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, which recently signed on to a legal brief supporting the right of a group of Muslims in New Jersey to build a mosque. His answer was met with enthusiastic applause — but he has also faced criticism from some fellow conservatives, including Wofford.

What it means to be a Baptist is to support soul freedom for everybody.
 
Southern Baptist leader Russell Moore
 
On a recent Sunday morning, after a fire-and-brimstone sermon, Wofford said he believes the U.S. Constitution protects all religions, including Islam. But Wofford doesn't believe Southern Baptist leaders, who draw their salaries from dues paid by local congregations, should be advocating for the rights of Muslims.

"So what I am actually doing if I support and defend the rights of people to construct places of false worship, I am helping them go to hell. And I do not want to help people go to hell," Wofford said.

Some Christian groups dedicated to defending religious freedom argue for equal treatment for all faiths, out of the principle that discriminating against one religion could threaten them all.

The audience at last month's Together for the Gospel conference in Louisville, Ky.
   
"It's a double-edged sword," said Matt Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Council, which focuses on religious freedom litigation on behalf of Christians but has also represented at least one Jewish client.

"Religious freedom is for all of us or it's for none of us," Staver said. "If we want to pick and choose, what's the standard? And if it's only that might makes right, then that means it's a political struggle and whoever is the ruling class at any particular time, they're the ones that have their say."

"So what I am actually doing if I support and defend the rights of people to construct places of false worship, I am helping them go to hell. And I do not want to help people go to hell.
 
In a tense presidential election year, such debates have a tendency to become political. After the meeting with Trump in New York last week, several evangelical leaders held a press conference, where they praised Trump's promise to protect religious liberty.

Asked how that pledge applies to Muslims, conservative columnist Ken Blackwell responded that he favors freedom for all faiths, but his primary concern is the rights of Christians.

"I was more interested in hearing Donald Trump say that he was willing and ready to defend religious liberty not just for Christians, but including for Christians, in the public square," he said.

Pressed on Trump's call to temporarily ban Muslim immigration — a proposal that has appeared to shift over time, but which Trump has yet to explain in detail — Blackwell said that issue will be part of an ongoing "conversation" between Trump and evangelical leaders. He said many conservative Christians see the real estate developer as more favorable to their concerns about religious freedom and other issues than his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

"We're not going to, in fact, throw him overboard" over the Muslim ban issue, Blackwell said.
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A Christian and a Muslim just produced a new version of the Quran — with a twist

A Christian and a Muslim have come together to produce a unique version of the Quran — a full-text English edition of the holy book, but with a twist.

“The Qur’an With References to the Bible” relies upon 7th century classical Arabic and comes complete with parallel verses from the Christian Bible.

Dr. Safi Kaskas, a Muslim businessman, and Dr. David Hungerford, an orthopedic surgeon who is a practicing Christian, have compiled the Quran in hopes that the translation will help bridge the divide between Christians and Muslims in America.

Hungerford and Kaskas recently told “The Church Boys” podcast that they first met as board members of Bridges to Common Ground, an organization that works to foster greater understanding between Christians and Muslims.

“When we met, Dr. Kaskas had this as a dream and (it was) something he had been working on in his mind,” Hungerford said. “We were both kind of prepared for this project (and the) collaboration just became so obvious to us and we’ve been working on it together ever since.”

Listen to the men discuss the Quran at the 24:30 mark:

Kaskas said he believes their version of the Quran offers up a unique opportunity for readers to have a true contemporary reading of the text along with important parallels between what is written in both Islamic and Christian scriptures.

He appealed to his own back story in sharing his motivation for embarking on the project, focusing specifically on his experience after coming to America.

“When I first came to the United States, if it wasn’t for my American neighbors opening their hearts and their homes for me, I wouldn’t have made it,” Kaskas said. “I feel a debt to this country.”

He continued, “I hate to see that the same Americans are feeling bad about Muslims now. I want to repair this relationship.”

Kaskas said he believes fixing the situation is predicated upon finding and highlighting common ground between Christians and Muslims.

“The best way to do this is from our holy books,” he added.

Hungerford and Kaskas noted that they discovered more than 3,000 verses in the Quran that have similar meanings and purposes in the Bible, so they set out to place biblical references at the bottom of each relevant page in the Quran.

They’re hoping that the book will help to dispel the “ignorance” that they see when it comes to the ongoing friction between the two groups; they’re also hoping the Quran edition helps spark “an open discussion.”

“What our hope is is that Christians will read it and the eyes of their misunderstanding and the depth of their ignorance will be dispelled so they can now look upon Muslims as part of the Abrahamic tradition,” Hungerford said.

But they want people to know that the book isn’t intended to blur the lines between the two faiths or to merge them.

“I am a practicing Muslim, David is a practicing Christian,” Kaskas said. “I want him to have the freedom to practice worshipping God his way and I want him to give me the freedom to worship God my way.”

As for why the two men believe so many extremists have claimed to commit acts of terror in the name of Islam, Hungerford pointed to a long human history of people co-opting and perverting peaceful religious sentiment.

“If you look at religion, there has never been a time in mankind where somebody who professes religion has not taken aspects of it out of context and distorted its meaning,” he said. “If we look at Christianity, Christianity was used to justify the Inquisition, burning witches, slavery.”

He said these elements weren’t a part of Christianity and were, instead, distortions, comparing that to what’s happening among Muslim extremists.

Kaskas added that he believes it’s essential for people to stop spouting anti-Muslim sentiment, as he said it can contribute to radicalization. Instead, he called on people to be more accepting and welcoming.

“If we continue to beat the Muslims on the head and call them names and call their religion names they’re going to feel that they’re unjustifiably attacked,” he said. “This is the first step to get somebody to be radicalized.”

Kaskas also said Christians might be surprised to discover some of the Quran’s contents, particularly when it comes to the text’s treatment of Jesus, the central figure in Christianity.

“The way Jesus was born in the Quran he had a miraculous birth his life was miraculous, the Quran states miracles that were not even stated in the Bible,” he said. “Everything about Jesus as far we’re concerned is miraculous.”

While the theological views are quite different, Kaskas noted that Muslims also believe that Jesus will one day return and that Muslims will follow him, though it should be noted that Muslims see Jesus as a prophet and not a deity as many Christians believe him to be.

In the end, Kaskas warned that he and Hungerford are trying to prevent some Muslims from misinterpreting the faith.

“We are fighting for survival to defend what we believe to be a religion of peace,” he said, adding that it’s still uncertain whether the fight can be won.

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Christian Clergy Welcomes Islam in Church, Then Bows to It



    Last July, for the first time during a Mass in Italy, a verse of the Koran was recited from the altar.

    A priest in the south of Italy enraged parishioners by dressing the Virgin Mary in a Muslim burqa for his church's Christmas Nativity scene. These interfaith initiatives are based on the gradual elimination of the Western-Christian heritage in favor of Islam.

    The Catholic clergy is probably disoriented by Pope Francis himself; he was the first to allow the reading of Islamic prayers and Koran readings from the Vatican.

    The Pope embraced religious relativism when it comes with Islam. He repeated that Islamist violence is the work of "a small group of fundamentalists" who, according to him, have nothing to do with Islam.

    Church of England Bishop Harries suggested that Prince Charles's coronation service should be opened with a Koran reading. In the US, more than 50 churches, including the Washington National Cathedral, hold Koran readings. Is there any reading of the Christian liturgy in mosques?

    How is it that so few Christian leaders have raised their voices against this unprecedented attack on a Christian monument? Have they organized so many Koran readings in their own churches so that they now view it as normal to convert a church into a mosque?

    Would it not be better for the Catholic Church to establish a real dialogue with the Islamic communities based on principles such as reciprocity (if you build mosques in Europe, we build churches in the Middle East), protection of Christian minorities in the Crescent and theological repudiation of jihad against "infidels"?

There is a disturbing and growing trend in Italy and Europe.

For the first time in more than 700 years, Islamic songs resonated in Florence's Cathedral, the Church Santa Maria del Fiore. Under the famous Dome of Brunelleschi, Islamic melodies accompanied Christian ones. The "interfaith initiative" was promoted a week after the barbaric massacre by Islamist terrorists in Paris at the magazine Charlie Hebdo, and included "Koran is Justice" and other such "hymns".

A priest in the south of Italy then enraged parishioners by dressing the Virgin Mary in a Muslim burqa for his church's Christmas nativity scene. The pastor of the parish of Saints Joachim and Anne in Potenza, Father Franco Corbo, said that he had the special crèche constructed "in the name of dialogue among religions". These interfaith initiatives are based on the gradual elimination of the Western-Christian heritage in favor of Islam.

Another priest in Italy also eliminated the Christmas nativity scene at the local cemetery because "it could offend Muslims". Father Sante Braggiè said there would be no crib in the cemetery in the northern city of Cremona because it may anger people of others faiths or people whose relatives are not buried there:

    "A small corner of the cemetery is reserved for Muslim graves. A crib positioned within sight of them could be seen as a lack of respect for followers of other faiths, hurt the sensibilities of Muslims, as well as Indians and even atheists".

In Rebbio, the Italian parish church of St. Martin was preparing the end of Mass. Suddenly a veiled woman, Nour Fayad, took the floor and read the verses of the Koran which announce the birth of Christ. The initiative was intended by the priest, Don Giusto della Valle, as "a gesture of dialogue".

In Rozano, near Milan, headmaster Marco Parma, then scrapped his school's Christmas carol concert: he decided to ban traditional festivities at Garofani school, "to cause no offence".

In July, for the first time during a Mass in Italy, a verse of the Koran was recited from the altar. It happened in the Church of Santa Maria in Trastevere in Rome, during a ceremony in memory of Father Jacques Hamel, who was slaughtered by ISIS terrorists in France. While Catholics recited the Creed, a delegate of the mosque of al Azhar Mosque in Cairo softly repeated an "Islamic prayer for peace".

The Catholic clergy is probably disoriented by Pope Francis himself, who was the first to allow the reading of Islamic prayers and Koran readings from the world's most important Catholic facility. It happened when Pope Francis met with late Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Vatican City, a gathering designed "to pray for Middle Eastern peace".

Since he was elected Pontiff, Francis has spent a lot of time in mosques. He has visited many Islamic places of worship abroad, as in Turkey and in the Central African Republic, but he was also willing to become the first Pope to visit the Grand Mosque in Rome.

When it comes to Islam, the Pope embraces religious relativism. He repeated that Islamist violence is the work of "a small group of fundamentalists" who, according to him, have nothing to do with Islam. When asked why he did not speak of Islamic violence, the Pope replied, "If I speak of Islamic violence, I must speak of Catholic violence", even though one would be hard-pressed at this time to find any priests, nuns or other Catholics planting bombs anyplace in the name of Jesus Christ.

This trend goes beyond Italy. In the UK, Bishop Harries suggested that Prince Charles's coronation service should open with a reading from the Koran. In the US, more than 50 churches, including the Washington National Cathedral, hold Koran readings. The head of the Protestant Church in Germany, Bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm, has also called for Islam to be taught in state schools. Is there any reading of the Christian liturgy in the mosques?

These interfaith shows also seem to be making us blind to more disturbing readings of the Koran in Christian churches, such as the one that recently took place in Istanbul's Hagia Sophia: for the first time in 85 years, Turkish Muslims read an Islamic text inside the Christianity's most beautiful Eastern church. Their goal, as attested by bills submitted to Turkey's parliament, is clear: Islamizing the church, which had been used as a museum since 1935.

Christian silence is less clear: how is it that so few Christian leaders raised their voice against this unprecedented attack on a Christian monument? Have they organized so many Koran readings in their own churches so that they now view it as normal to convert a church into a mosque?

After a terror attack in a church in Normandy last July, the Christian clergy opened the doors of their churches to Muslims. This gesture was welcomed as a turning point in the relation between the two religions. But from a population of six million Muslims in France, only a few hundred Muslims participated. Was their attendance really representative of Islamic public opinion?

These well-intended gestures might look like an interfaith gain, but are in fact an ecumenical loss. Would it not be better for the heads of the Catholic Church to establish a real dialogue with the Islamic communities, based on principles such as reciprocity (if you build mosques in Europe, we build churches in the Middle East), protection of Christian minorities in the Crescent and theological repudiation of jihad against "infidels"?

To the Catholic clergy who opened the door of Florence's Cathedral to Islam, Muslims will next suggest removing a painting in the basilica: Domenico di Michelino's "Dante and the Divine Comedy". For Muslim extremists, Dante is guilty of "blasphemy": he included Mohammed in his poetic Hell. The Islamic State does not make a secret of its willingness to strike Dante's tomb in Italy. Other sites on ISIS's list include St. Mark's Basilica in Venice and the Basilica of San Petronio in Bologna, both of which portray scenes from the Divine Comedy.

A fantasy? Not at all. The Italian human rights organization Gherush92, which advises UN bodies on human rights, already asked to have Dante removed from school curricula because supposedly it is "Islamophobic".

In this new interfaith "correctness", only Islam gains. Christians have everything to lose.

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VIDEO: Muslim Sings Koran Verse Denying Christ Is God In St. Mary’s Cathedral

A passage from the Koran was sung at St. Mary’s Episcopal Cathedral in Glasgow that denied that Christ is the Son of God sparking outrage from Christ followers around the world.

The Muslim disrespect occurred on the Feast of the Epiphany.

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    The passage from Surah 19, which specifically denies that Jesus was the Son of God and says He should not be worshipped, was sung during a Eucharist service at St Mary’s Episcopal Cathedral in Glasgow to mark the feast of the Epiphany.

    A video of the recital was posted on YouTube showing a girl singing the passage in a typical Islamic style. It narrates the Islamic account of the birth of Jesus, which includes the claim that Mary was “ashamed” after giving birth, and the infant Christ miraculously spoke from the cradle – something not found in Christian scripture.

    She then concludes by singing verse 35, which states in translation: “It befitteth not the Majesty of Allah that He should take unto Himself a son,” and then verse 36, which has the infant Jesus saying: “And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him. That is the right path.”

    The cathedral praised the reading in a Facebook post, calling it a “wonderful event”…

    …The cathedral’s Facebook page also proudly publicises a press report on the provost’s Christmas sermon, in which he compared U.S. President-Elect Donald Trump to the biblical King Herod, who ordered the massacre of children.

This is absolutely outrageous.



Who in their right mind would allow a Muslim to sing in a Cathedral? Muslims are murdering Jews and Christians around the world and this Cathedral allows them to sing a song that is blasphemous to their own beliefs?

The Facebook Page has taken down the post.

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'Distress' But No Apology For Epiphany Service Quran Reading Denying Divinity of Christ

In a statement posted to his blog site, David Chillingworth, the Primus of the Church appeared to strongly rebuke Kelvin Holdsworth, the Provost of St Mary’s Episcopal Cathedral, Glasgow, where the reading took place, arguing that interfaith work, “like all works of reconciliation, must be founded on truth.” He continued: “We approach others with open hearts but we stand in the truth of the gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.”

However, no apology for the reading has been forthcoming; Chillingworth reasoning that the “The decisions which have led to the situation in St Mary’s Cathedral are a matter for the Provost and the Cathedral community.”

He added that the church will “bring together all those who are involved in the development of interfaith relations” to explore how the work can be carried out “in ways which will command respect.”

Holdsworth himself is unrepentent, writing in a blog post that “local Muslim friends” were invited “as we were reflecting on the arrival of the mysterious Magi at Bethlehem”. The significance is unclear, as the Magi, predating Islam by some six centuries, were Zoroastrian. no proof of that

He continued: “Having a recitation from the Qur’an in a Christian cathedral in worship is not a new thing.

“So it has indeed come as something of a surprise to find accounts of last week’s service appearing online and stirring up the most most incredible pot of hatred I’ve ever encountered.

“This same Qur’anic reading has been given before in services and no outcry has happened. Is it because this is in a cathedral run by a gay man? Is it because the recitation was given by a young woman?

“Clearly those things are factors as they feature in some of the abuse.”

Confirming that some of the messages received by the church had been reported to Police Scotland, Holdsworth added: “They assure me that intolerance and prejudice will not be tolerated in Scotland. To put it simply, I thank God for them and their work.”

The matter came to light after St Mary’s posted a video of verses of the Quran being sung in Arabic during a service to Facebook, along with a message calling it a “wonderful event.” Both the Facebook post and a YouTube version of the reading have since been removed by the Cathedral, after it provoked widespread anger and criticism from Christians, who pointed out that the verses chosen denied the divinity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

The reading can still be viewed elsewhere on Facebook via Madinah Javed, who sang the passages during the service.

There was further anger as it emerged that a translation of the verses printed in the Order of Service and handed out to congregants omitted the last two, in which the denial came, leading to confusion.

Commenting on matter on the Archbishop Cranmer blogsite, the Rev’d Dr Gavin Ashenden, Chaplain to the Queen, said: “It’s hard to know what was in the mind of the Provost of Glasgow Cathedral when he arranged for this assault on Jesus and the apostles.

“The accusation of lying or deception [contained within the verses] was not just directed towards Jesus and the Apostles; but is also […] to those, too, who have been martyred at the hands of Islam, because they refused to renounce this deception when confronted with it.”

Refuting Holdworth’s claims that the reading was part of an interfaith dialogue between Islam and Christianity, Ashenden continued:

“There was no dialogue in the Epiphany Eucharist; only a refutation of what Christians hold most dear and upon which salvation depends.

“In over 30 years of interfaith conversations, I have never yet come across a Muslim community which allowed those passages in the Gospels acclaiming the divinity of Christ to be read in Friday prayers.”

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« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2017, 11:31:51 am »

It seems like noone has a conscience anymore.

I miss the yesteryear preachers like AW Tozer and George Whitfield. Nowdays people like Tozer who preach righteousness and holiness are marked as "works-based salvation heretics".

Yes, make no mistake - if someone is saved, there SHOULD be evidences of their salvation. No different from, if let's say, someone says he's a carpenter - there should be SOME evidence of his proper labour skills.
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CHRISLAM UPDATE: Christian University McMurry In Texas Opens Prayer Room For Muslim Students
McMurry’s chaplain, Jeff Lust, and Dr. Mark Waters, professor of religion and director of international education, reportedly helped the students in their effort. Lust did not respond to a request for comment from The College Fix.

2/16/17

A Christian university in Texas has created a prayer room for its Muslim students to pray to Allah and study the anti-Christian Qu’ran

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” 2 Corinthians 6:14 (KJV)

EDITOR’S NOTE: Chrislam, the merging of apostate Christianity and Islam, is making great strides on college campuses. In the spirit of “inclusion”, Christian schools and universities are allowing “prayer rooms” for adherents of Islam whose “holy book” teaches them that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God. 1 John 2:22 (KJV) says that those people who deny God has a Son are of Antichrist. No where in the Bible does it says that Christians are to be “open to all faiths”. Instead, it commands that we teach and preach the gospel of the grace of God and salvation in Jesus Christ alone.

The Methodist-affiliated McMurry University  dedicated the space in one of the school’s residential dorms for its Muslim students’ daily prayers. Before its creation, Muslim students met for prayer in a nearby hotel, a student who helped establish the new prayer room told The College Fix in an interview.

That student, Joe Yousef, is president of McMurry’s Saudi Student Club. Of the roughly 1,000 students attending McMurry, about 60 are Muslim and many come from Saudi Arabia, Yousef said.



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Yousef said now that Muslim students have a prayer room on campus, it will be much easier for them to meet both their religious and scholastic obligations.

“On Friday, we get together and sometimes we have to go home to pray and we need to be in university so we don’t have time to go home,” Yousef said.

Yousef admitted that some people at McMurry didn’t like the idea of having the prayer room. Some students are also supportive.

“Being Christians, we should be open to free religion and letting everyone do what they want to do and I think the Muslim prayer room gives them that chance,” student Hector Flores told BigCountry.com.

MORE: University of Kansas maintains women’s-only lunchroom for Muslims

McMurry’s chaplain, Jeff Lust, and Dr. Mark Waters, professor of religion and director of international education, reportedly helped the students in their effort. Lust did not respond to a request for comment from The College Fix.

McMurry’s associate director of communications, Gary Ellison, did not respond to requests for comment either.

Lust told KTXS that the room is “a step in the right direction.”

“We anticipate over time we’ll have students from a variety of countries and possibly different religions,” Lust said. “We need to learn to live and work together in this world that is increasingly diverse and then we can truly become better together.”

The room will also serve as a meeting place for a new interfaith club, which is slated to meet for the first time Feb. 21, according to Yousef.

He said he will help lead the interfaith club in the hopes that it will help students of different faiths understand each other better. “We are going to talk about faith and belief,” he said. “Some people have their own bias. We want people to get together, so we can help each other out.” source
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Army makes history by putting Muslim in charge of 14,000 US soldiers’ spiritual needs

In January, Lt. Col. Khallid Shabazz received the call every Army chaplain dreams of, the call that validates years of intense study and hard work toward keeping the U.S. military in good spiritual health.

He was offered the job of chaplain for an entire division, an honor for anyone in his field but a milestone in his case. After a ceremony this summer, Shabazz will become the first Muslim division-level chaplain in the history of the U.S. military – a Muslim spiritual leader for more than 14,000 mostly Christian soldiers.

Shabazz, who’s dedicated his life to working across religious lines, found it hard to keep calm as he received the news at his desk on Joint Base Lewis-McChord near Tacoma, Washington.

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