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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 08:20:32 am »

Reiki is WITCHCRAFT!!! Need know nothing else...

Oh there are a lot of Reiki users at PPF, one big one is EG's wife amazon.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 11:29:06 pm »

Mark et al - what is the definition of someone who talks to demonic spirits? No, not to communicate with them to get future stuff(necromancing), but the kind where they talk and yell to them directly when they *think* someone is demonically possessed et al. Is this necomancing as well? Huh
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 07:58:36 am »

Mark et al - what is the definition of someone who talks to demonic spirits? No, not to communicate with them to get future stuff(necromancing), but the kind where they talk and yell to them directly when they *think* someone is demonically possessed et al. Is this necomancing as well? Huh

necromancing is talking to dead people. Channeling in talking to spirits. its all the same. call it what you will.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 09:45:54 am »

Mark et al - what is the definition of someone who talks to demonic spirits? No, not to communicate with them to get future stuff(necromancing), but the kind where they talk and yell to them directly when they *think* someone is demonically possessed et al. Is this necomancing as well? Huh

BA2 – If you’re talking about deliverance, then I would say no, it is not necromancy. Binding, loosing, and casting out ARE Biblical endeavors. However, if such activities are not led 100% by the Holy Spirit, if people act presumptuously, then even this activity can cause harm.

I’ve been on the receiving end of this. My thought, at the time, was to KNOW God as real to me. Not a myth and not a fairy tale. But there were certain aspects of my character that were a hindrance to this. It was ultimately my choice. I was mostly focused on, aware of, and seeking Him. The people around me, and their actions seemed choreographed to fit what He was doing with me.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 08:54:07 pm »

i think communicating is more like opening a portal or opening yourself to be demon possessed, whereas rebuking is more of the Lord fighting for you. you are relying on Jesus Christ to deliver you
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 09:31:50 pm »

Any occultic practice, ouija board, horoscope, tarot, numerology, altered states of consciousness, etc. as well as participation in any ritual of the other religions to include yoga, karate, and reiki can indeed open a door. The curse is due to seeking out solutions from supernatural beings other than God. The judgment is that He will let one do it. The beings claim a right to occupy the host due to agreement. Ex-witches, when trying to move toward Christ are often surprised to find out that they have these things inside them.

Biblically, there’s only one reason to ever communicate with these things - to get them to vacate.

I agree that Jesus Christ is the ONLY person that can and does deliver people from this.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 09:58:59 pm »

Any occultic practice, ouija board, horoscope, tarot, numerology, altered states of consciousness, etc. as well as participation in any ritual of the other religions to include yoga, karate, and reiki can indeed open a door. The curse is due to seeking out solutions from supernatural beings other than God. The judgment is that He will let one do it. The beings claim a right to occupy the host due to agreement. Ex-witches, when trying to move toward Christ are often surprised to find out that they have these things inside them.

Biblically, there’s only one reason to ever communicate with these things - to get them to vacate.

I agree that Jesus Christ is the ONLY person that can and does deliver people from this.

You've probably seen my "Help" thread in the Fellowship forum - I had this encounter with a "Christian missionary" in Israel in Dec. One minute, he was telling me that God told him that b/c I have fear of driving a car, I have no love of God walk in darkness, and have idolatry in my heart to boot, which is why I was headed for the lake of fire. Next thing I knew, he crept up on me and told me to look into his eyes and take deep breaths...and almost immediately afterward he asked me to repeat a couple of words, while he started yelling at demonic spirits to come out of me.

At the moment, it felt like a knife was put at my throat, but the Holy Spirit was telling me that what he was doing was NOT right, so I just cried to the Lord to help me and save me from this. I regretted that I didn't stand up for the truth and recite bible scriptures at him, but nonetheless I am very thankful I didn't submit to his wicked nonsense. I mean I pretty much hinted at him that I was resisting this(when I didn't respond to what he wanted me to do like looking into his eyes), but he still subtlely forced himself on me.

I mean the whole thing he was doing was just STUPID to begin with - he said NOTHING about me having demonic spirits(like said, he said I lived in darkness, have no love for God, and am an idolator), but he nonetheless snuck up on me and tried to pull off this charade under our noses. Yes, he was pretty much literally YELLING DIRECTLY at (supposedly)demonic spirits to come out of up.

Even worse, he did it RIGHT in our OWN LIVING ROOM(in front of my parents, and in front of my mom's pastor) - Shame on that pastor for falling for what he was doing. And I'm still trying to convince my parents what he was doing was witchcraft and necromancing(my mom said my face grew white, although I tried to tell her it was b/c I was horrified). Ultimately, he did NOT point me to the word of God.

BTW - 95% of this world walk in darkness and are adolators(b/c they reject Jesus Christ, of course), does that mean they're all *demonically possessed*? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 11:02:11 pm »

You've probably seen my "Help" thread in the Fellowship forum - I had this encounter with a "Christian missionary" in Israel in Dec. One minute, he was telling me that God told him that b/c I have fear of driving a car, I have no love of God walk in darkness, and have idolatry in my heart to boot, which is why I was headed for the lake of fire. Next thing I knew, he crept up on me and told me to look into his eyes and take deep breaths...and almost immediately afterward he asked me to repeat a couple of words, while he started yelling at demonic spirits to come out of me.

At the moment, it felt like a knife was put at my throat, but the Holy Spirit was telling me that what he was doing was NOT right, so I just cried to the Lord to help me and save me from this. I regretted that I didn't stand up for the truth and recite bible scriptures at him, but nonetheless I am very thankful I didn't submit to his wicked nonsense. I mean I pretty much hinted at him that I was resisting this(when I didn't respond to what he wanted me to do like looking into his eyes), but he still subtlely forced himself on me.

I mean the whole thing he was doing was just STUPID to begin with - he said NOTHING about me having demonic spirits(like said, he said I lived in darkness, have no love for God, and am an idolator), but he nonetheless snuck up on me and tried to pull off this charade under our noses. Yes, he was pretty much literally YELLING DIRECTLY at (supposedly)demonic spirits to come out of up.

Even worse, he did it RIGHT in our OWN LIVING ROOM(in front of my parents, and in front of my mom's pastor) - Shame on that pastor for falling for what he was doing. And I'm still trying to convince my parents what he was doing was witchcraft and necromancing(my mom said my face grew white, although I tried to tell her it was b/c I was horrified). Ultimately, he did NOT point me to the word of God.

BTW - 95% of this world walk in darkness and are adolators(b/c they reject Jesus Christ, of course), does that mean they're all *demonically possessed*? Roll Eyes

Well, when I was subject to this, I **knew** that there that there was something there that constantly took a whole lot of personal energy to maintain control over. And I was looking for help to deal with it. In my case there was past occultic involvement and childhood trauma. Most of the time, that is the entry point for them. They can also claim legal right to occupy due to some act in one’s ancestry. I also was aware, after the fact, of the purpose God had for me to experience this.

True deliverance involves AGREEMENT between God, the deliverance minister, and, most importantly, the person being delivered. Obviously that didn’t occur in your case. Sounds like the missionary acted presumptuously. A good deliverance minister will be driven by the desire to help people and to see them set free. A wanna-be deliverance minister will be interested in making himself look good.

In the end, this particular type of ministry earns ZERO points with Jesus, even if it’s successful. By the way, any Christian can do this. No formal training required.

For those that don’t know Christ as their personal savior, I would say the potential for demonization is rather high. The difference is that they would not see this as a problem.

Need to add that what Jesus has told me to stay away from may not apply to another Christian. Only He knows the heart. For instance, because of my past, owning occult books is a no-go for me ATM. Whereas, it may be OK for some other Christian, who is not spiritually vulnerable in that area, to fulfill God's purpose in his or her life.
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