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« on: February 10, 2012, 01:05:28 pm »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9073811/The-Pope-will-die-within-a-year-Vatican-assassination-fears-revealed.html

The Pope will die within a year: Vatican 'assassination fears' revealed

The Pope will die within the next 12 months, a senior Vatican figure has reportedly claimed amid fears of an assassination plot.



By Nick Squires, Rome

10:39AM GMT 10 Feb 2012


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The sensational prediction was allegedly made by Cardinal Paolo Romeo, the archbishop of Palermo in Sicily, on a recent visit to China.
 

Cardinal Romeo reportedly made the startling prediction of the Pope's death during a trip to China in November 2011.
 

He seemed so sure of the fact that the people he spoke with, including Italian businessmen and Chinese representatives of the Catholic Church, were convinced that he was talking about an assassination attempt.
 

They were so alarmed by his remarks that they reported them back to the Vatican.
 

The extraordinary comments were written up in a top-secret report, dated Dec 30, 2011, and delivered to the Pope by a senior cardinal, Dario Castrillon Hoyos, a Colombian, in January.
 
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 01:05:52 pm »

Vatican Fears Assassins May Target Pope In 2012 - Paper

An assassination attempt against Pope Benedict XVI may be carried out before November 2012, Italian Il Fatto Quotidiano daily reported on Friday, citing a confidential document that was delivered to the Holy See in January by Colombian Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos. The letter, written in German, cites Cardinal Paolo Romeo, the Archbishop of Palermo, who said during his visit to China in November 2011 that “the Pope will die” in the next 12 months, Il Fatto Quotidiano said. It is not known who stands behind the letter, the daily said. The previous Pope, John Paul II, survived a 1981 assassination attempt, although he was shot and gravely wounded by his attacker, Turkish national Mehmet Ali Agca. In 2006 an Italian parliamentary commission accused former Soviet leaders and the Bulgarian secret service of being behind the assassination plot.

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 01:42:40 pm »

You can't deny that Benedict has been a VERY hated guy - no, not saying any of the other Popes were good people et al, but nonetheless the previous ones were "well respected" by the "world", this one, not so much.

Whatever happens to him this year-whether he dies by natural causes or gets murdered...won't surprise me either way. Even if he does survive in 2012, you can't deny his age and bad health = not much longer to live.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 02:54:08 pm »

One look at the guy trying to move about and you be see the guy isn't going to be around much longer because of age alone. All those years living a lie has taken it's toll.

I am curious what game they are playing though to make such a statement, in China, knowing everybody is going to be running back to Rome with the news, and he would have to return to Rome himself to who knows what. I'm not sure who is trying to get whom involved, as all those people tend to be...unpredictable.
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"Monsignors' mutiny" revealed by Vatican leaks

Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days the holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

"It is a total mess," said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

The Machiavellian maneuvering and machinations that have come to light in the Vatican recently are worthy of a novel about a sinister power struggle at a medieval court.

Senior church officials interviewed this month said almost daily embarrassments that have put the Vatican on the defensive could force Pope Benedict to act to clean up the image of its administration - at a time when the church faces a deeper crisis of authority and relevance in the wider world.

Some of those sources said the outcome of a power struggle inside the Holy See may even have a longer-term effect, on the choice of the man to succeed Benedict when he dies.

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ITALIAN POPE?

Last week, an Italian newspaper that has published some of the leaks ran a bizarre internal Vatican memo that involved one cardinal complaining about another cardinal who spoke about a possible assassination attempt against the pope within 12 months and openly speculated on who the next pope should be.

Bertone's detractors say he has packed the Curia with Italian friends. Some see an attempt to influence the election of the next pope and increase the chances that the papacy returns to Italy after two successive non-Italian popes who have broken what had been an Italian monopoly for over 450 years.

Seven of the 18 new "cardinal electors" -- those aged under 80 eligible to elect a pope -- at this Saturday's consistory are Italian. Six of those work for Bertone in the Curia.

Bertone, as chief administrator, had a key role in advising the pope on the appointments, which raised eyebrows because of the high number of Italian bureaucrats among them.

"There is widespread malaise and delusion about Bertone inside the Curia. It is full of complaints," said the bishop who has close knowledge of Vatican affairs.

"Bertone has had a very brash method of running the Vatican and putting his friends in high places. People could not take it any more and said 'enough' and that is why I think these leaks are coming out now to make him look bad," he said.

POPE "ISOLATED"

Leaked confidential cables sent to the State Department by the U.S. embassy to the Vatican depicted him as a "yes man" with no diplomatic experience or linguistic skills and the 2009 cable suggests that the pope is protected from bad news.

"There is also the question of who, if anyone, brings dissenting views to the pope's attention," read the cable, published by WikiLeaks.

The Vatican sources said some cardinals asked the pope to replace Bertone because of administrative lapses, including the failure to warn the pope that a renegade bishop re-admitted to the Church in 2009 was a well-known Holocaust denier.

But they said the pope, at 84 and increasingly showing the signs of his age, is not eager to break in a new right-hand man.

"It's so complicated and the pope is so helpless," said the monsignor.

The bishop said: "The pope is very isolated. He lives in his own world and some say the information he receives is filtered. He is interested in his books and his sermons but he is not very interested in government."

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"It's so complicated and the pope is so helpless," said the monsignor.

But wait, the pope is suppose to be like God on earth or something right? And he's "helpless"? So much for infallible!  Roll Eyes

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Vatican Leaks Expose Power Struggle Among Contenders For Pope Petrus Romanus

The flurry of leaks has come at an embarrassing time — just before a usually joyful ceremony this week known as a consistory, when Benedict will admit more prelates into the College of Cardinals, the exclusive men’s club that will one day pick the next Roman Catholic leader from among their own ranks. “This consistory will be taking place in an atmosphere that is certainly not very glorious or exalting,” said one bishop with direct knowledge of Vatican affairs. The sources agreed that the leaks were part of an internal campaign — a sort of “mutiny of the monsignors” — against the Pope’s right-hand man, Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone. Bertone, 77, has a reputation as a heavy-handed administrator and power-broker whose style has alienated many in the Curia, the bureaucracy that runs the central administration of the 1.3 billion-strong Roman Catholic Church.

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Twisted Ritual At Grammy Awards Sees (Peter The) Roman Possessed By Powerful Demons

Is there an insider ‘nudge, nudge, wink, wink’ about Minaj’s red carpet walk last night, escorted by ‘The Pope’? Given the news two days ago that someone inside the Vatican predicts that the Pope will die within a year, perhaps the ‘failed exorcism’ and the triumph of Satan at the end of the performance telegraph that a major shift is on its way. The song featured in the video is from Minaj’s newest album, and it centered around her alter-ego, Roman Zolanski (an obvious tribute to the director of Rosemary’s Baby and husband to Charles Manson victim Sharon Tate: Roman Polanski). The short film that opens the act shows a concerned white woman who asks a white Catholic priest to go upstairs and help her son Roman. The priest enters the bedroom to find ‘Roman’ (Minaj behaving crazily, wearing a cheap blond wig and a dress, singing ‘I feel pretty’). When confronted by the priest, Roman scrambles up the wall and hisses from the ceiling and whispers ‘You don’t belong here.” The priest asks the ‘demon’ his name. It screams ‘Roman!’ This sets up the remainder of the performance, live onstage. The set features a backdrop of massive, stained glass windows and Roman columns. Minaj is tied to a sacrificial altar in the center, high above the dancers.

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‘Is Nicki Minaj possessed?’ asks Catholic League president

Nicki Minaj was sending a religious message with her Catholic-themed “Roman Holiday” performance at Sunday night’s Grammy awards. But what was it?

First, the pop star arrived on the red carpet escorted by a man who appears to be playing the part of a pope or bishop.

Minaj’s performance contained it all: a Catholic confession scene, and apparent demonic possession, followed by a series of break dancing monks, chanting choir boys and one levitating songstress.

The Twittersphere was apparently unable to make spiritual heads or tails of her art, but in a statement, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League was sure that her Catholic collage of a performance was intended to insult Catholics.

None of this was by accident, and all of it was approved by The Recording Academy, which puts on the Grammys. Whether Minaj is possessed is surely an open question, but what is not in doubt is the irresponsibility of The Recording Academy. Never would they allow an artist to insult Judaism or Islam.
It’s bad enough that Catholics have to fight for their rights vis-à-vis a hostile administration in Washington without also having to fend off attacks in the entertainment industry. The net effect, however, will only embolden Catholics, as well as their friends in other faith communities.

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Really? This person apparently has never watched a Mel Brooks movie! Uh Billy Crystal, hello!

Give me a break. Not much worse than a whiney Catholic. Of course Minaj is possessed, with the spirit of unbelief. It's kinda right there in the bible, well at lest in the real bible.
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On Saturday, 22 Cardinals Joined The College That Will Elect Petrus Romanus. Conclave Seen As Imminent

Preparations for the ceremony were clouded by leaks of internal documents alleging financial mismanagement in Vatican affairs, and reports in the Italian media of political jockeying among church officials who, sensing an increasingly weak and aging pontiff, are already preparing for a conclave. Benedict was wheeled into St. Peter's Basilica aboard the moving platform he has been using for several months to spare him the long walk down the center aisle. Benedict, who turns 85 in April, has been slowing down recently. Even Saturday's consistory was greatly trimmed back to a slimmer version of the service used in 1969: only one of the cardinals actually read his oath of loyalty aloud, while the others read it silently to themselves simultaneously rather than one after another. A reading was cut out, as was a responsorial psalm. And at the end of his remarks, Benedict said: "And pray for me, that I may continually offer to the people of God the witness of sound doctrine and guide the holy church with a firm and humble hand." All of which has led to even more speculation that a conclave is very much on the minds of cardinals new and old.

http://news.yahoo.com/22-cardinals-join-club-elect-popes-successor-092632288.html


Is Petrus Romanus Among The New Cardinals?

On Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI created 22 cardinals, in the fourth consistory of his papacy, bringing the total number of cardinals to 214 of whom 125 are under 80 years old and electors, meaning that they can elect the next pope. In 1970, Pope Paul VI set 120 as the number of electors for a pope and it can certainly be reduced by the next conclave, which is the gathering when a new pope is elected. The College of Cardinals was formalized in 1059 by Pope Nicholas 11, who designated cardinals as the electors of the new pope. And today the next pope will be chosen from one of the 125 since only a cardinal can be made a pope.

http://impact.nj.com/jjournal-news/print.html?entry=/2012/02/is_the_next_pope_among_the_new.html
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Power Struggle Between Vatican, Pope's Secretary

Analysts said there is a power struggle going on between factions inside the Vatican and that the pope's deputy Secretary of State, Tarcisio Bertone, is in the middle of it. "There is a great discontent within in the Roman Curia," said Marco Politi. "The out-products of this discontent are back-stabbing, intrigues, anonymous letters about plots, but the main thing is that Cardinal Bertone, who is the Secretary of State, was never accepted by the Curia because he was an outsider." Cardinal Delegate Timothy Dolan said: "I see the successor of Peter, the chief pastor of the church longing to tend to pastoral, spiritual issues. And I am sure if there is anybody frustrated about reports of internal infighting, it is he. And if I, as a new member of the College of Cardinals, can help him keep the church universal and the government of the church... riveted on the issues of the gospel, I would be honored to and I would take that as one of my duties."

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Pressure On U.S. Bishops To Reassert Pre-Vatican II Authoritarianism, Petrus Romanus Needed

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is a powerful institution, at least on paper. But a recent debate over contraception coverage has exposed a deep divide between the 271 active bishops and the rank-and-file U.S. Catholics who are supposed to follow their moral authority. It also has raised questions about why some prominent Catholic intuitions ignore the bishops’ teachings – and whether the bishops will be able to reassert their authority. The gulf has left some politicians, ever eager to court the Catholic vote, struggling to figure out who now speaks for the Church. Some ordinary Catholics in the pews are wondering the same.

http://www.cathnewsusa.com/2012/02/catholic-bishops-fight-for-authority-over-u-s-flock/


Suddenly, The Vatican Is Full Of Moles And Spies

Confidential documents of the Secretariat of State have been leaked to the press with the objective of damaging Cardinal Bertone, but they ended up having the opposite effect. It was a particularly peaceful Sunday in the Apostolic Palace. Swiss Guards in civilian clothes escorted the guests with their usual tranquillity, in glaring contrast to the nervous anxiety with which the mass media have been following step by step the indiscretions that have leaked from the Vatican. The recent publications of confidential Vatican documents appear to be aimed at giving the impression that there is a conspiracy against a severely ill Pope, but how much awareness of it there is within the papal household in relation to these rumours?


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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 03:50:19 pm »

Part 7 added above  Smiley


On Saturday, 22 Cardinals Joined The College That Will Elect Petrus Romanus. Conclave Seen As Imminent

Preparations for the ceremony were clouded by leaks of internal documents alleging financial mismanagement in Vatican affairs, and reports in the Italian media of political jockeying among church officials who, sensing an increasingly weak and aging pontiff, are already preparing for a conclave. Benedict was wheeled into St. Peter's Basilica aboard the moving platform he has been using for several months to spare him the long walk down the center aisle. Benedict, who turns 85 in April, has been slowing down recently. Even Saturday's consistory was greatly trimmed back to a slimmer version of the service used in 1969: only one of the cardinals actually read his oath of loyalty aloud, while the others read it silently to themselves simultaneously rather than one after another. A reading was cut out, as was a responsorial psalm. And at the end of his remarks, Benedict said: "And pray for me, that I may continually offer to the people of God the witness of sound doctrine and guide the holy church with a firm and humble hand." All of which has led to even more speculation that a conclave is very much on the minds of cardinals new and old.

http://news.yahoo.com/22-cardinals-join-club-elect-popes-successor-092632288.html


Is Petrus Romanus Among The New Cardinals?

On Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI created 22 cardinals, in the fourth consistory of his papacy, bringing the total number of cardinals to 214 of whom 125 are under 80 years old and electors, meaning that they can elect the next pope. In 1970, Pope Paul VI set 120 as the number of electors for a pope and it can certainly be reduced by the next conclave, which is the gathering when a new pope is elected. The College of Cardinals was formalized in 1059 by Pope Nicholas 11, who designated cardinals as the electors of the new pope. And today the next pope will be chosen from one of the 125 since only a cardinal can be made a pope.

http://impact.nj.com/jjournal-news/print.html?entry=/2012/02/is_the_next_pope_among_the_new.html

So if I understand this correctly, the 22 new created number of cardinals, bringing the total to over 200/125 whom are under 80, potentially means this is the next step to electing a new pope?
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http://news.yahoo.com/names-cardinals-elevated-pope-benedict-112230667.html

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Names of new cardinals elevated by Pope Benedict

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Saturday elevated 22 prelates to the rank of cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church at a solemn ceremony in St Peter's Basilica. Here are their names.
 
Under 80 years old and eligible to enter a conclave to elect the next pope:
 
1. Archbishop Fernando Filoni, Italian, prefect of the Vatican's Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples.
 
2. Archbishop Manuel Monteiro de Castro, Portuguese, head of Vatican office that deals with the sacrament of penance.
 
3. Archbishop Santos Abril y Castello, Spanish, archpriest of the Rome basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore.
 
4. Archbishop Antonio Maria Veglio, Italian, head of the Vatican's Council for Pastoral Care of Migrants.
 
5. Archbishop Giuseppe Bertello, Italian, governor of Vatican City.
 
6. Archbishop Francesco Coccopalmerio, Italian, president of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts.
 
7. Archbishop Joao Braz de Aviz, Brazilian, prefect of the Vatican's Congregation for Consecrated Life.
 
8. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien, American, Grandmaster of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.
 
9. Archbishop Domenico Calcango, Italian, President of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Holy See.
 
10. Archbishop Giuseppe Versaldi, Italian, president of the Vatican's Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See.
 
11. His Beatitude George Alencherry, Indian, major archbishop of the Siro-Malabar rite in India.
 
12. Archbishop Thomas Christopher Collins, Canadian, archbishop of Toronto.
 
13. Archbishop Dominik Duka, Czech, archbishop of Prague
 
14. Archbishop Willem Jacobus Eijk, Dutch, archbishop of Utrecht, Netherlands.
 
15. Archbishop Giuseppe Betori, Italian, archbishop of Florence.
 
16. Archbishop Timothy Michael Dolan, American, archbishop of New York.
 
17. Archbishop Rainer Maria Woelki, German, archbishop of Berlin.
 
18. Archbishop John Tong Hon, Chinese, archbishop of Hong Kong.
 
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Over 80 and therefore not eligible to enter a conclave:
 
1. His Beatitude Lucian Muresan, Romanian, major archbishop of Fagaras and Alba Iulia in Romania.
 
2. Father Julien Ries, Belgian, professor emeritus of religious history at the Catholic University of Louvain.
 
3. Father Prosper Grech, Maltese, professor emeritus of various Italian universities.
 
4. Father Karl Becker, German, of the Gregorian University in Rome.
 
(Reporting By Philip Pullella; Editing by Alistair Lyon)
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 01:29:18 pm »

It does appear they are getting things set up for another pope. I have no doubt they know something we don't.
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 06:10:50 pm »

It does appear they are getting things set up for another pope. I have no doubt they know something we don't.

Jesus is on the throne and he is in control - however, he says to "Watch" in the last days. This is yet another piece of the puzzle being set in play, among many others that have been so as well. And a potential big piece it could be!
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One Day After Tom Horn Tells Steve Quayle On Omega Man Radio That The Vatican Is Being Ruled By 'Omerta' Code Of Silence, Whistle-Blower In Holy See Claims Same

The mole claims to be one of more than 20 people within the Holy See who have leaked sensitive documents to the Italian media in the last few weeks, in an affair that has been compared to the WikiLeaks scandal and dubbed "Vati-leaks". The unidentified man, who said he had worked in the Vatican for more than 20 years, made the claims in an interview to be aired on Italian television on Wednesday night. His face was hidden and his voice digitally distorted when he appeared on the TV channel, La7. According to extracts of the interview, the whistle-blower said the Vatican was engulfed in intrigue, secrecy and a climate of intimidation. "Maybe there is a kind of omerta to prevent the truth from surfacing. Not because of a power struggle but maybe because of fear," he added.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9098846/Vatican-ruled-by-omerta-code-of-silence-whistle-blower-claims.html

Bertone Leaves "Poisonous" Atmosphere In Vatican To Visit Hospitalized Children

Today, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone took a breather from the poisonous atmosphere of the Vatican, to visit the paediatric ward at Potenza hospital in Southern Italy (Ospedale Pediatrico Bambino Gesù). The cardinal appeared moved as he spoke to the hospitalised children and responded to some questions put to him by journalists, regarding the state of health care in Italy and the recent controversies over the situation in the Vatican. Speaking to doctors from the hospital, the cardinal said: “Besides your professionalism you also have good hearts.” Bertone then emphasised the importance “of relations between health care workers: serenity and cohesion – he concluded – aid healing.”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/news/detail/articolo/bertone-vigano-ior-12950/

Is The World And Church Ready For An American Pope?

In just a decade, Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York City, has risen from a local bishop to becoming a prince of the Catholic Church. He returned from Rome after receiving his cardinal's red hat and ring, like a rock star; a bevy of cameras and lights in tow. Worldwide buzz around the newly minted Cardinal Dolan is that with his popularity, political savvy, and passion for the church, the question is being raised as to whether he could be the first American pope. And it's more than just wishful thinking "There is something qualitatively different about the speculation surrounding Cardinal Dolan in New York right now..."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/24/american-pope/?test=latestnews

Vatican Insider Sending Secret Acknowledgment Concerning Masonic Connection To Next Conclave? Publishes Article Repeatedly Referring To 33%

"Agnosco stilum Curiae...", a play on words meaning ‘I recognize the style of the Roman Church’ but also ‘I recognize the dagger of the Roman Church.’ Well, this time it seems  rather more like an axe than a dagger and  not even a well concealed one... It would therefore be feasible to say that for each of them there was a 33% chance of being responsible for leaking said document to the press. An epistle in which  every word was steeped in rancour and bitterness, all because of a desired nomination to cardinalship that didn’t happen and perhaps now never will... There is however a 33% chance that it was actually the Nuncio himself, who,  livid about the promotion he did not receive, was directly or indirectly responsible for the infamous leak. That 33% chance is enough to lead us to believe that maybe Benedict XVI did the right thing by not...
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/blog-san-pietro-e-dintorni-en/detail/articolo/vigano-us-12069/
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Part's 10 and 11 added above

From Africa To Italy - National Newspapers Herald The Coming Of Petrus Romanus In 2012... And Tie His Arrival To The Third Secret Of Fatima!(Rough translation into English)

There is already talk of the Third Secret of Fatima and the Prophecy of Malachi. The response is then unearthly? The news that there is a plot to kill the Pope is serious, very serious. Reflect for a moment. As far as revealed by the Journal of Labor Marco, the currently reigning pope, Benedict XVI, will die within 12 months. The news was contained in a document circulated in German at the Vatican "not to make that clear to many people... the director of the Fact Daily during "Public Service", the transmission of Michele Santoro - "Both sides of Cardinal thought that Romeo is planning an assassination attempt against the pontiff. " ...The author of the piece, Marco Lillo, who has obtained a document that Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, president emeritus of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei would be delivered to the Holy Father points out that: "The document speaks of mordkomplott , ie homicidal plot against the Pope... the famous" Prophecy of the Popes where under the motto of 111 ° there is a disturbing sentence: "In persecutione extrema sacrae romanae ecclesiae sedebit Petrus Romanus...
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/thefinalpope.htm

Catholic Political Scientist Proposes Elevating Authority Of Petrus Romanus To “Papal Presidentialism” And The Idea Of An Expanded [Final] Conclave

Galli Della Loggia starts by analyzing the “malicious rumours,” the “more or less controlled leaks,” and the unedifying “behind the scenes” drama that have recently characterized the Roman Curia: elements that reveal “a fierce battle over the direction of the ecclesiastical institution” - a “clash of power” that ends up discrediting the Church. According to the political scientist, the Pope’s power only appears absolute. In reality he must - even in nominations - consider “factions” and the “inevitable dominance of alliances and cliques over the careers of senior clergymen,” as well as “exaggerated personal ambitions.” In the face of all this, the political scientist speaks of a desire for “democratization,” though he quips about the “ill-defined ‘greater collegiality of decisions’ and “never quite defined ‘return to the spirit of the Council’.” Galli Della Loggia wonders if the answer is actually to be found in “the direction of democracy,” proposing an alternative solution: “a further strengthening of the role of the Pope.”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/benedetto-xvi-benedict-xvi-benedicto-xvi-13142/

Theologian Asks, Why Take The Prophecy Of The Popes Seriously?

Now, we are not exactly trying to prove a scientific theory, but the idea is that we want to have this sort of methodology in mind as we evaluate the Prophecy of the Popes. We are not arguing that all of it will stand up to this level of rigor. We are confident that the Christian worldview explains the reality we observe much better than the naturalistic theories advocated by most scientists. Our faith is grounded in evidence of a historical nature and we are confident and encouraged by the level of intellectual scrutiny that things like the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection can endure. Accordingly, we have no agenda to meet with the Prophecy of the Popes. It either authenticates itself on its merit or it becomes a conversation piece. We mentioned above that one prophecy in particular grabbed our attention in a way that prompted willingness to invest in the research. Benedict XV was assigned the motto Religio depopulate: “religion depopulated.”
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Pope marks milestones amid signs of frailty, succession talk

Pope Benedict marks two milestones this week and while his health appears stable, signs of frailty have again prompted speculation over whether he will be the first pontiff in seven centuries to resign.

...When he left for Mexico and Cuba, he used a cane at the airport for the first time in public, though sources say he has been using it in private for some time.

Last year, to conserve his strength, he began using a mobile platform instead of walking up the aisle of St Peter's Basilica.

The Vatican says it is to spare him fatigue and there is no concern about his overall health. His brother has said Benedict suffered two mild strokes before his election in 2005 and he reportedly suffers from high blood pressure and arthritis.

WOULD CONSIDER RESIGNING

Where Benedict differs from his predecessors is that he is the only pope in living memory to discuss publicly the possibility of resignation, though others have done so privately.

In a book in 2010, Benedict said he would not hesitate to become the first pontiff to resign willingly in more than 700 years if he felt no longer able, "physically, psychologically and spiritually" to run the Catholic Church.

"Those of us who are over 75 are not allowed to run even a small diocese and cardinals over 80 are not allowed to elect a pope. I can understand why one day the pope might say 'even I can't do my job any more,'" said retired Archbishop Luigi Bettazzi of the north Italian city of Ivrea.

"I wish him a long life and lasting lucidity but I think that if the moment arrives when he sees that things are changing, I think he has the courage to resign," Bettazzi told Italian television on Saturday.

The last pope to resign willingly was Celestine V in 1294 after reigning for only five months. Gregory XII reluctantly abdicated in 1415 to end a dispute with a rival claimant to the papacy.

Every papal birthday or anniversary sparks talk of succession but there is no clear front runner to succeed Benedict, who has now appointed more than half the cardinals who will choose a new pope from among their ranks. Most are Europeans...

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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2012, 12:09:29 pm »

That's a rather candid admission of mortality. Surprising that a pope would say such things in public.


It's also interesting that in his rather short term, he's managed to appoint half the cardinals that will elect a successor. Where did the other cardinals go? Do they retire or something or have a term limit? I mean once your a cardinal, basically you stay a cardinal. I gather that only a certain number of cardinals vote?  Undecided
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2012, 06:04:00 pm »

I briefly read a headline that said Benedict turned 85 recently, or will soon. Can't remember which. Either way, his age is really showing.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 03:13:22 am »

Uh, 85 yesterday!

Strange that they are talking resignation, when with John Paul, I don't remember any talk of resignation. He was pope till he died, and the last several years he was barely getting around and you could hardly understand what he was mumbling.

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Uh, 85 yesterday!

Strange that they are talking resignation, when with John Paul, I don't remember any talk of resignation. He was pope till he died, and the last several years he was barely getting around and you could hardly understand what he was mumbling.



maybe they are on a time line?
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 04:05:35 am »

Could be.
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http://news.yahoo.com/leaks-reveal-bitter-vatican-power-struggle-031953190.html

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The flood of secret Vatican documents leaked to the press, enraging the Holy See, aims to oust the Church's powerful number two and maybe to replace the pope himself, experts say.
 
The so-called "Vatileaks" scandal is a plot within the intrigue-filled Vatican City to unseat Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone, seen by some as wielding too much power and not acting in the Church's interests, they say.
 
"The documents that have been leaked all concern Bertone in one way or another," Marco Politi, Vatican expert for Il Fatto Quotidiano daily, told AFP.
 
"This is all about damaging him to get a new secretary of state," he added.
 
As the Vatican moves to root out whistle blowers who have been copying and leaking private documents straight from Pope Benedict XVI's desk, rumours have been circulating in the Italian media over whether the plot may run deeper.
 
Frustration over the management of Church scandals in recent years -- from allegations of money-laundering to clerical sex abuse -- has apparently led some to begin preparing the way for their chosen candidate to become future pope.
 
"A group of cardinals has begun to act on a very ambitious aim: to take the secretary of state, and then, conquer the conclave (the assembly which elects a new pope) with a chosen pope among them," said La Repubblica newspaper.
 
Bertone, a close ally of Benedict, has sparked controversy in some quarters, in particular over his management of the Vatican bank, which has come to symbolise the opacity and scandal gripping the Holy See's administration.
 
The leaked documents have shed light on many Vatican secrets, including the Church's tax problems, child sex scandals and negotiations with hardline traditionalist rebels.
 
Although they do not reveal any great surprises, the secret papers have lifted the lid on deep-seated venom among rival figures in the Vatican.
 
Leaks in January revealed a bitter battle between Bertone and Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, who had been attempting to clean up the Vatican's finances when he was removed from his post -- allegedly for cracking down on corruption.
 
Vigano wrote to the pope and begged not to be punished for rooting out examples of favours, waste and financial mismanagement which set the Vatican back millions of euros (dollars) in higher contract prices -- but to no avail.
 
Insiders say the pope was not strong enough to challenge Bertone's decision.
 
"These leaks are bullets aimed at Bertone. They want to sink him, to force him to resign," Italian theologist Vito Mancuso told journalists last week.
 
The cardinal, 78, also infuriated critics last week for his reported role in pushing the Vatican bank to oust its head, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi -- an expert on financial ethics -- for not toeing the line.
 
Gotti Tedeschi had been tasked with getting the Vatican on the "white list" of financially virtuous countries, but frictions arose when Bertone insisted on maintaining the bank's independence and appeared intent on watering down a new transparency law.
 
"Bertone has too much power. We have to expose the rot in the Church," one of the Vatican moles told La Repubblica. "Those who leak, do it for the good of the pope," the source said.
 
Tensions rose to boiling point at the beginning of last week when the Vatican threatened to sue journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi for his new book, "His Holiness", which gathers together a whole host of freshly leaked documents.
 
In a move to stem the leaks, the Vatican quickly arrested Benedict's personal butler Paolo Gabriele for possessing secret papers, and it is currently questioning many others who work in close proximity with the pope.
 
Rumours are that there are around 20 whistle blowers who have been supplying the media with documents -- at least two have spoken out anonymously -- and it is not clear if the Holy See will be able to patch up the damage done so far.
 
"What's certain is that Tarcisio Bertone will not come out of this in a positive light," said Vatican expert Sandro Magister.
 
"The shortcomings of his governance are clear for all to see," he said, adding that the pope might replace him "in the next few months."
 
According to expert Bruno Bartoloni, the "Vatileaks" scandal may be the last straw for many in an institution dogged by bad governance and corruption.
 
"This scandal has enormous consequences, it will create unease and exasperation among the cardinals," he said.
 
"They want to find someone who can do a serious clean up. But in cleaning up, they risk starting a revolution," he added.
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2012, 03:47:40 pm »

This thing is about as scandalous as it gets, right to the pope himself.

Where's that popcorn again?
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2012, 03:55:39 pm »

This thing is about as scandalous as it gets, right to the pope himself.

Where's that popcorn again?

Or how about some cashews and blueberry juice? Grin

Yeah, things are really boiling over now - not just in the Vatican, but in the Eurozone, the ME, here in America...
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woops. what happened to that Vicar of christ?  Cheesy
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Coast to Coast AM : Petrus Romanus Prophecy of the Popes with Tom Horn (June 3, 2012)




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