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« Reply #120 on: March 03, 2013, 05:57:26 pm »

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/no-pope-blessing-cardinals-gather-elect-pontiff-143308663.html

3/3/13
Papal vote preparations start in earnest at Vatican

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Preparations for electing Roman Catholicism's new leader begin in earnest on Monday as the College of Cardinals opens daily talks to sketch an identikit for the next pope and ponder who among them might fit it.
 
The idea is to have the new pope elected during next week and officially installed several days later so he can preside over the Holy Week ceremonies starting with Palm Sunday on March 24 and culminating in Easter the following Sunday.
 
The general congregations, closed-door meetings in the interregnum between a papacy and the conclave to choose the next one, will hold morning and afternoon sessions in an apparent effort to discuss as much as possible in a short time.
 
The list of challenges facing the crisis-hit Church could take weeks to debate, but the Vatican seems keen to have only a week of talks so the 115 cardinal electors -- those under 80 -- can enter the Sistine Chapel for the conclave next week.

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« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2013, 06:21:34 am »

Benedict to Be ‘Pope Emeritus’ — a Title Dismissed by John Paul

The Vatican has announced Pope Benedict will take the title of Pope Emeritus when he resigns Thursday — but the designation appears to be in conflict with his predecessor Pope John Paul’s beliefs.

In his final days, an ailing John Paul thought of resigning himself, but then dismissed the idea, CatholicOnline.com reports.

According to the Web site, John Paul told his doctor: “You must heal me, and I must heal — because there is no place in the church for a Pope Emeritus.’’

As Pope Emeritus, Benedict will retain his name Benedict XVI and live in a convent inside the Vatican, dressing in a simple white cassock, The New York Times reports. He will no longer wear the red papal shoes that represent the blood of martyrs, Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombradi said.

With Benedict’s new designation in place, Vatican leaders will meet next week to decide a date for the Papal Conclave to elect his successor.

The closed-door meetings are expected to be politically-charged following two bombshell scandals.

They include a rumored gay-sex scandal within the church’s Rome headquarters and the resignation of Britain's Cardinal Keith O'Brien over alleged “inappropriate behavior’’ with other priests.

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« Reply #122 on: March 04, 2013, 10:28:23 am »

Cardinals begin pre-conclave meetings amid scandal

Cardinals from around the world gathered Monday inside the Vatican for their first round of meetings before the conclave to elect the next pope, amid scandals inside and out of the Vatican and the continued reverberations of Benedict XVI's decision to retire.

The Vatican said 103 of the 115 electors had arrived, while the other dozen are en route. The dean of the College of Cardinals has said a date for the conclave won't be set until all cardinals have arrived.

Among the first orders of business was the oath of secrecy each cardinal made, pledging to maintain "rigorous secrecy with regard to all matters in any way related to the election of the Roman Pontiff."

The college of cardinals also agreed to send Benedict XVI a message on behalf of the group - the text was being worked on."

The core agenda item is to set the date for the conclave and set in place procedures to prepare for it, including closing the Sistine Chapel to visitors and getting the Vatican hotel cleared out and de-bugged, lest anyone try to listen in on the secret conversations of the cardinals.

The first day of discussion was again rocked by revelations of scandal, with Scottish Cardinal Keith O'Brien admitting that he had engaged in sexual misconduct not befitting a priest, archbishop or cardinal.

O'Brien last week resigned as archbishop of St. Andrews and Edinburgh and said he wouldn't participate in the conclave after four men came forward with allegations that he had acted inappropriately with them - the first time a cardinal has stayed away from a conclave because of personal scandal.

Separately, the Vatican is still reeling from the fallout of the scandal over leaked papal documents, and the investigation by three cardinals into who was behind it.

Italian news reports have been rife with unsourced reports about the contents of the cardinals' dossier. Even if the reports are false, as the Vatican maintains, the leaks themselves confirmed a fairly high level of dysfunction within the Vatican bureaucracy, with intrigues, turf battles and allegations of corruption, nepotism and cronyism at the highest levels of the church hierarchy.

In one of his last audiences before resigning, Benedict met with the three cardinals who prepared the report and decided that their dossier would remain secret. But he gave them the go-ahead to answer cardinals' questions about its contents.

Another topic facing the cardinals is the reason they're here in the first place: Benedict's resignation and its implications. His decision to end 600 years of tradition and retire rather than stay on the job until death has completely altered the concept of the papacy, and cardinals haven't shied from weighing in about the implications for the next pope.

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« Reply #123 on: March 04, 2013, 10:30:34 am »

Yeah, looks like they'll have their next Pope selected before their "holy week" at the end of the month.
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« Reply #124 on: March 04, 2013, 12:02:32 pm »

Bookmakers Say It’s Italy vs. Africa for Next Pope!

In the grand scheme of things it’s anybody’s guess, but a leading oddsmaker says three top Catholic leaders — one from Africa and two from Italy — have the best chances of becoming the next Pope.

As of Friday, Ireland’s Paddy Power has Ghana’s Cardinal Peter Turkson the favorite to succeed Pope Benedict with odds of 5-2 — put $2 on and win $5 if he is elected.

Archbishop of Milan, Cardinal Angelo Scola, is second favorite at 11-4, followed by another Italian Cardinal, Tarcisio Bertone.

Paddy Power’s leading contenders for the papacy are:

5-2 Cardinal Peter Turkson, 64, (Ghana) President, Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
11-4 Cardinal Angelo Scola, 71, (Italy) Archbishop of Milan.
4-1 Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, 78, (Italy) Vatican Secretary of State.
8-1 Cardinal Marc Ouellet, 68, (Canada) Prefect for the Congregation for Bishops.
10-1 Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, 70, (Italy) Archbishop of Genoa.
10-1 Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, 70, (Italy) President, Pontifical Council for Culture.
14-1 Cardinal Peter Erdo, 60, (Hungary) Archbishop of Esztergom-Budapest.
16-1 Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, 68, (Austria) Archbishop of Vienna.
16-1 Cardinal Leonardo Sandri, 69, (Argentina) Prefect of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches.
16-1 Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle, 55, (Philippines) Archbishop of Manila.
25-1 Cardinal Odilo Scherer, 63, (Brazil) Archbishop of São Paulo.
25-1 Cardinal Francis Arinze, 80, (Nigeria) Cardinal-Bishop of Velletri-Segni.
25-1 Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, 70, (Honduras) Archbishop of Tegucigalpa.
25-1 Cardinal Sean O’Malley, 68, (United States) Archbishop of Boston.
33-1 Cardinal Timothy Dolan, 63, (United States) Archbishop of New York.
40-1 Cardinal Mauro Piacenza, 68, (Italy) Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy.
40-1 Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, 76, (Argentina) Archbishop of Buenos Aires.
40-1 Cardinal Reinhard Marx, 59, (Germany) Archbishop of Munich and Freising.

Paddy Power spokesman Rory Scott told USA Today, “We are expecting this Pope-betting to be the biggest round of nonsporting betting in Paddy Power history — it’s a big market.

“It’s going to pick up as we head into conclave and we think it will reach about $7 million (U.S. dollars).”


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« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2013, 09:15:02 am »

Just to add to the conspiracy, i have not watched this yet but think it is interesting



The title says: "In my opinion the final pope in already in power . Tarcisio Peter Bertone from rome has filled the conclave with Cardinals from Italy . Tarcisio is also an anagram for Iscariot , as in Judas Iscariot !"

FINAL POPE ALREADY RUNNING VATICAN
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Did Pope Benedict XVI line up his successor and then resign to fulfill a 900-year-old prophecy that the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church would be history’s “final pope?”

The idea was posed by Tom Horn, co-author of the book “Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope is Here.”
Horn and his co-author, Cris Putnam, accurately predicted Benedict would become the first pope in nearly 600 years to resign.
Horn believes the last pope, called “Petrus Romanus” in the prophecy by Irish Archbishop St. Malachy, could be the man who is set to take over interim leadership the moment Benedict resigns Feb. 28 at 8 p.m. local time, becoming the acting Vatican head of state.

The claim centers on Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro (Peter in English) Evasio Bertone, born in Romano Canavese, Piedmont, the current secretary of state for the Vatican, who Pope Benedict XVI appointed Camerlengo, or Chamberlain, of the Holy Roman Church April 4, 2007.

In the period known as “sede vacante,” when there is no sitting pope, Bertone will be called upon as Camerlengo to serve as the head of the Roman Catholic Church.
He will be in charge until the College of Cardinals attending the upcoming Papal Conclave in the Sistine Chapel select a new pope.

Benedict XVI has made decisions that indicate Bertone could be, or at least once was, his choice for successor.
Working alongside Bertone, Benedict appeared to be “stacking the deck” in Bertone’s favor Jan. 6, 2012, when he named 22 new cardinals. Most are Europeans, primarily Italians, already holding key Vatican positions.
As a result, Europeans currently number over half of all cardinal-electors, 67 out of 125. Nearly a quarter of all voters in the conclave will be Italian.

“When he appointed these new cardinals,” Horn said, “Benedict seemed to put his definitive stamp on an Italian successor, stacking the College of Cardinals, those who could be called upon to give Bertone the so-called apostolic chair of St. Peter.”

Horn said the idea was not Benedict’s alone.
Most Vatican experts attribute the large number of Italian appointments to the influence of Bertone, he said.
Benedict may have resigned in part because he wanted to have a hand, even if indirect, in influencing the selection of his successor.
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« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2013, 10:48:15 am »

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-papal-contender-suggests-catholic-church-needs-evangelization-025947363.html

3/6/13
Canadian papal contender suggests Catholic church needs 'new evangelization'

VATICAN CITY - The Canadian cardinal who could become the next pope says the Catholic church has to take on a "new evangelization" to help those who do not believe in God.
 
"This is a great drama of our times, you know to live without God," said Marc Cardinal Ouellet in an interview with CBC Television.
 
"They need the Creator, they need this relationship. It is vital, you know, for family life, for social life, for fraternity, for peace."
 
Ouellet says the church has to respond to the needs of people who aren't religious.
 
When asked whether he believed the church needed to forge ahead on social issues such as its positions on gay marriage and abortion, the 68-year-old Quebecer was evasive, saying questions on those areas were "secondary."
 
Ouellet did share his views on the role of women in the church, however, saying "there is much more to do."
 
While he would not support the ordaining of women, Ouellet said many women were already working in key positions in the church.
 
"This is open to further development, but we have to go you know with the time. And it is not easy to move forward," he said in what was the second instalment of a two-part interview.
 
Ouellet leads the powerful Congregation for Bishops in the Vatican, which vets bishop nominations worldwide, and has worked in Latin America and in Rome.
 
The former Archbishop of Quebec City is often regarded as a conservative figure and has drawn criticism in the past with his opinions on social issues.
 
He came under fire in Quebec for anti-abortion remarks he made in 2010 when he said abortion was unjustifiable, even in cases of ****. His words drew angry reactions from women's rights activists and a number of politicians.
 
He has also spoken out against gay marriage, calling it "a big crisis."
 
Ouellet is considered one of the front-runners to replace the retired Pope Benedict, who stepped down last week citing a lack of strength to do the job.
 
Pre-conclave meetings are currently underway at the Vatican. An official date has yet to be set for the conclave during which a new pope will be elected.
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Cardinals set Tuesday as start date for conclave

Cardinals have set Tuesday as the start date for the conclave to elect the next pope, a milestone in this unusual papal transition and an indication that even without an obvious front-runner, the cardinals have a fairly good idea of who best among them can lead the Catholic Church and tackle its many problems.

The conclave date was set on Friday afternoon during a vote by the College of Cardinals who have been meeting all week to discuss the church's problems and priorities and the qualities a new pope must possess.

Tuesday will begin with a morning Mass in St. Peter's Basilica, followed by a solemn procession into the Sistine Chapel and the first round of secret balloting in the afternoon.

Only one vote is held the first afternoon. If black smoke is sent snaking out of the chapel chimney to indicate there is no immediate victor, the cardinals will retire for the day. They will return Wednesday for two rounds of balloting in the morning, two rounds in the afternoon until a pope has been chosen.

In the past 100 years, no conclave has lasted longer than five days.

That said, there doesn't appear to be a front-runner in this election for a successor to the retired Benedict XVI, and the past week of deliberations has exposed sharp divisions among cardinals about some of the pressing problems facing the church, including of governance within the Holy See itself.

U.S. Cardinal Timothy Dolan, considered a papal contender, said in a blog post Friday that most of the discussions in the closed-door meetings covered preaching and teaching the Catholic faith, tending to Catholic schools and hospitals, protecting families and the unborn, supporting priests "and getting more of them!"

"Those are the 'big issues,'" he wrote. "You may find that hard to believe, since the 'word on the street' is that all we talk about is corruption in the Vatican, sexual abuse, money. Do these topics come up? Yes! Do they dominate? No!"

Early in the week, the Americans had been pressing for more time to get to the bottom of the level of dysfunction and corruption in the Holy See's governance that was exposed by the leaks of papal documents last year. But by Thursday afternoon, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles tweeted that the discussions were "reaching a conclusion" and that a mood of "excitement" was taking hold.

Vatican-based cardinals had been angling for a speedy end to the discussions, perhaps to limit the amount of dirty laundry being aired.

A Tuesday start date could be read as something of a compromise. Monday had been seen as an obvious choice to start the conclave to ensure a pope would be elected and installed by Sunday, March 17, the last Sunday before Holy Week begins.

American and some German cardinals had argued that the time for discernment should come during the pre-conclave meetings, when there is more time for discussion and information-gathering.

Once the conclave begins, there is actually very little time for discussion since the proceedings are conducted in an atmosphere of silent prayer. The Americans had argued for more consultation time so the conclave itself doesn't drag on.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the pre-conclave meetings had served to give cardinals a chance to discuss the "profile, characteristics, qualities and talents" a future pope must have.

"Obviously the cardinals must arrive at this moment with all the information that is useful to make a judgment on such an important issue," he said. "The preparation is absolutely fundamental."

According to Vatican analysts and even some cardinals themselves, the list of papabili, or those considered to have the stuff to be pope, remains relatively unchanged from when Benedict XVI first announced he would resign Feb. 28, kick-starting the papal transition. But some Italian media have speculated that with governance such a key issue in this conclave, the cardinals might also be considering an informal pope-secretary of state "ticket."

The Vatican secretary of state is primarily responsible for running the Holy See, but it's not an elected job like the pope. It's a papal appointment, and will be a very closely watched papal appointment this time around given the stakes.

Also Friday, the cardinals formally agreed to exempt two of their voting-age colleagues from the conclave who in past weeks had signaled they wouldn't come: Cardinal Julius Darmaatjadja, emeritus archbishop of Jakarta, who is ill, and Scottish Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who resigned last week after admitting to inappropriate sexual misconduct.

That formality brings the number of cardinal electors to 115; two thirds of which -- or 77 votes -- is required for victory. Benedict in 2007 changed the conclave rules to keep the two-thirds requirement throughout the voting process after Pope John Paul II decreed that after about 12 days of inconclusive balloting the threshold could switch to a simple majority.

By reverting back to the traditional two-thirds requirement, Benedict was apparently aiming to ensure a consensus candidate emerges quickly and ruling out the possibility that cardinals might hold out until the simple majority kicks in to push through their candidate. His decision might prove prescient, given the apparent lack of a front-runner in this conclave.

Lombardi said a few items of business remain outstanding, including drawing lots for rooms at the Vatican's Santa Marta hotel, where the cardinals will be sequestered once the conclave begins.

On Friday, he showed a video of the room in which the new pope will spend his first night as pontiff; it features a bed with a heavy, dark wood headboard featuring a carved image of Christ's face. There is also a sitting area and a study.

The pope is expected to stay there for a few weeks even after the election, since the papal apartment in the Apostolic Palace must be renovated. The apartment was sealed Feb. 28, just after Benedict resigned, and cannot be reopened until the new pope formally takes possession of it.

Lombardi explained that after an eight-year papacy, certain plumbing and maintenance work that had been put off must be carried out -- work that cannot begin, however, until the seal on the doors is broken.

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http://www.news.va/en/news/chimney-installed-on-roof-of-sistine-chapel-today

CHIMNEY INSTALLED ON ROOF OF SISTINE CHAPEL TODAY

Vatican City, 9 March 2013 (VIS) – The chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel, which will emit the smoke to indicating the election (white smoke) or non-election (black smoke) of a pope, was installed this morning, three days before the Conclave is scheduled to begin. That, however, is not the only change taking place in the chapel. Vatican Television is recording the preparations and those images are then distributed to all media outlets that request it for broadcasting around the world.

Work began on Tuesday, 5 March, at 1:00pm when restorers, electricians, mechanics, carpenters, seamstresses, assemblers, electronic technicians and other labourers from various areas of competence suddenly replaced the hundreds of tourists who visit the Sistine Chapel every day. “The Chapel is closed to the public. We are preparing for the Conclave,” employees respond to the questions asked by perplexed visitors who are trying to finish their tour of the Vatican Museums with a glimpse of Michelangelo's “Creation of Adam”.

Journalists are already in the know. The Director of the Holy See Press Office, Fr. Federico Lombardi, S.J., has been holding daily press conferences, giving a general overview of the proceedings of the General Congregations and explaining the images of the preparations that are being carried out around Vatican City. From within the Sistine Chapel we see scaffolding around the stoves that will burn the ballots to erect the stove pipe that releases the smoke from the roof of the chapel, shorter tubing for the scaffolding that will elevate the floor and create a uniform area to work on, lengths of cloth and the seamstresses sowing them together to create table covers...

On Wednesday, 6 March, for example, Vatican Television provided raw video of workers installing a large platform for the chimney and flooring sheets over the original mosaic pavement, both to protect the mosaics and to make it easier to build the elevated floor above it, which will provide the cardinals with an even expanse to walk and work upon.

Around the altar, 115 cherry wood chairs have been put in place, each engraved with the name of the cardinal who will occupy it, with 12 wooden tables covered in beige and bordeaux fabric where the cardinals will prepare their ballots. They will cast their votes in front of Michelangelo's fresco of “The Last Judgment” on the wall of the altar.

After the chimney is installed it will be submitted to a series of tests using chemicals to emit a yellow smoke so as not to confuse the increased number of passers-by in St. Peter's Square. The chimney is just the last piece of the mechanism that will produce the smoke. The two iron stoves it is attached to were installed yesterday. The first stove, cast in 1938, has the dates of the five Conclaves it has been used in etched upon it—from the one electing Pius XII in 1939 until the latest, in 2005, when Cardinal Ratzinger became Benedict XVI.

This older oven is used to burn the balloting papers. The modern one, equipped with an electronic device, will add the chemicals to produce the black or white smoke indicating the result of the voting until the election occurs. There are two voting sessions planned for each morning and each afternoon that the Conclave continues. At the moment, the chimney is at the centre of the media's curiosity. Next Tuesday afternoon it will hold the attention of millions around the world.

Besides the Cardinal electors, the only others who will be present in the Sistine Chapel are the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations and Cardinal Prospero Grech, O.S.A., who will preach the second meditation provided for in No. 13 of the Apostolic Constitution “Universi Dominici Gregis” to the Cardinal electors.

Feb. 22, 2013 The See of Rome is Vacant.
Feb. 11, 2013 The Final Days of Benedict XVI's Pontificate

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From the book addressed to Autolycus by Saint Theophilus of Antioch, bishop (PG 6, 1026-1027. 1035)
If you say, “Show me your God,” I will say to you, “Show me what kind of person you are, and I will show you my God.” Show me then whether the eyes of your mind can see, and the ears of your heart hear. It is like this. Those who can see with the eyes of their bodies are aware of what is happening in this life on earth. They get to know things that are different from each other. They distinguish light and darkness, black and white, ugliness and beauty, elegance and inelegance, proportion and lack of proportion, excess and defect.
The same is true of the sounds we hear: high or low or pleasant. So it is with the ears of our heart and the eyes of our mind in their capacity to hear or see God. God is seen by those who have the capacity to see him, provided that they keep the eyes of their mind open. A person’s soul should be clean, like a mirror reflecting light. If there is rust on the mirror his face cannot be seen in it.
In the same way, no one who has sin within him can see God. But if you will you can be healed. Hand yourself over to the doctor, and he will open the eyes of your mind and heart. Who is to be the doctor? It is God! If you understand this, and live in purity and holiness and justice, you may see God.

MORE SPIRITUAL REFLECTIONS
1. Conclave to begin Tuesday March 12th 2. General congregations: Profile of future Pope emerging from sessions 3. Lombardi: 12 Cardinal electors yet to arrive as 1st Congregation concludes 4. General congregations: With all electors present still no date for Conclave 5. Conclave: A few dates with history 6. New urns for conclave unveiled 7. Where cardinals will stay during Conclave 8. General congregations: No rush to fix date for Conclave 9. Bolts, pipes and joists in front of th
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Revelation 13:11-17 KJV
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 9:1-3 KJV
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Cardinal Napier: the new Pope will have to be a pastor who can reach out and touch peoples' lives


2013-03-08 Vatican Radio (Vatican Radio) Cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier, Archbishop of Durban in South Africa is in Rome to participate in the upcoming Conclave. Since arriving he has been part of the Cardinals’ General Congregations to prepare for the Conclave. Speaking to Vatican Radio’s Linda Bordoni just before joining a prayer service in St. Peter’s Basilica on Wednesday evening, Cardinal Napier spoke of his own feelings and emotions during this particular time in history, and of the feelings and hopes of the faithful in his own geographical area of concern… Listen to the interview… Cardinal Napier says that back home in South Africa the events taking place in the Vatican in these days are of great interest and concern. He himself is on twitter and says he continues to receive a lot of tweets about what is going on: “People all around sending their prayers, messages from bishops saying their people are praying for us, so I think there is a real sense –through the social networks – that there is the possibility of people being engaged in something that is taking place even at a remote distance”. Speaking of his own vision regarding the characteristics he would like to see in the new leader of the Catholic Church, Napier admits that he is “a bit biased because he picked up from Pope John Paul II so many of his characteristics, and how he translated them into a vision for the Church”. Napier mentions John Paul II’s theology of the body, which - he says - “at the time he was giving those talks they didn’t seem to making so much of an impact. But since then, that theology has really come out as how this is a wonderful way of reaffirming just how unique a creation a human person is, and because of that uniqueness humans need to be given that special reverence and respect”. So from John Paul II –Napier says – we have a lesson on the value of human life, the value of the human person. “But he also wanted that value to be heightened by the New Evangelization, and that was then picked up by Pope Benedict who gave it an even clearer definition. Napier says he remembers the day Benedict was elected and how he put on the table what was going to be his own vision for the church. Reconciliation - he points out - was one of the things and throughout his Pontificate he certainly went out of his way to bring reconciliation about in many sectors. And when he explained why he chose the name Benedict - says Cardinal Napier - he explained that St. Benedict was around at the time the Roman Empire had fallen apart and the Church was in disarray, and he too wanted to rebuild and renew the faith and the credibility of the Church. Looking back to both previous Pontiffs, Napier says the idea of the centrality of Christ was foremost. Benedict spoke of the encounter with Jesus. “That whole thing about prayer and the centrality of Christ – the new Pope will have to someone who is conscious of the foundation that are already there - and who is committed to building on those foundations – and building on existent foundations - Napier says - could be trickier than building new ones”. Therefore – says Cardinal Napier – “I think we will have to have a fairly lengthy Pontificate –so we will be looking at a younger person”. He says he believes the new Pope “will be from among us, so he will need to have heard from the different sectors of the Church - what the issues are, how the Church in those places is already trying to tackle those issues, and what role the Pope can play to influence them”. So far, Cardinal Napier says, in the General Congregations specific geographical issues have not been examined, but areas of concern have been raised. “We, the Africans, have met informally a couple of times and looked at the issues we would like to share with the Church in other parts of the world”. He says one of the concerns they have is that the Church has been very centered on Europe. Of course - he says - there is a close relationship with Europe which is normal, but “maybe now that Europe is in crisis and is concentrating on itself, it’s forgetting that there are answers to some of the issues and problems that can come from outside. And I think this is where our concern could be as Africans : what can we bring to the consciousness of the Church in Europe that maybe makes them more aware of what’s going on out there, but at the same time makes them look at alternative solutions to the issues”. As regards the widespread nihilism expressed by new generations in Europe, Napier says this is not at all the reality in Africa. He says in Africa “God has still got a very very important part in people’s lives”. In Africa, he says, you are reminded all the time of your own fallibility. So in a way our fallibility as human beings and our need for something that gives us stability is such that religion still has such a major part to play. Cardinal Napier is in Rome for his second Conclave. This time he says he knows what to expect along the way. So he feels more familiar with the proceedings. He notes that this time there is no mourning period to distract the Cardinals. This time he – says – "we were taken a little off guard. I didn’t expect Pope Benedict to resign just before Easter knowing how important Easter and especially Good Friday are for him. And also with the World Youth Day coming up". However he says, looking back he wasn’t so surprised at the resignation itself Right now – he says of the Cardinals – “we are here under a certain self-imposed pressure: we want to find out as much as we can, get as familiar with each other as we can, try to identify possible candidates, and at the same time we know the longer we spend doing that, the harder it will be to return home”. Cardinal Napier says the prayers of the faithful are so important at this moment. He says he is asking all to intensify those prayers. “One of the thoughts that came to me this morning was: every step that we are taking you can almost feel the prayers supporting us. I think that kind of spiritual union is very important also because in a way it is going to affect how we see thehttp://[b] new Pope – it has to be someone who is a pastor who is able to reach out and touch people’s lives”.[/b]
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Catholics create 'virtual conclave' for new pope

VATICAN CITY (AP) — A pastor in Ontario wondered about behind-the-scenes politicking ahead of the conclave to elect the next pope. He could have read news reports or listened to briefings by the Vatican spokesman. Instead, he asked a cardinal. Less than an hour later, the response arrived.
 
"What I see is a real desire to know, and so evaluate, the papabili against criteria of qualities demanded by situations," wrote Cardinal Wilfrid Napier of Durban, South Africa, using the term "papabili" for cardinals seen as papal contenders.
 
The exchange occurred on Twitter, one of many online interactions that have made this papal succession unlike any other for Roman Catholics and observers of the church. While the election starting Tuesday will remain strictly secret, social media is providing a direct link to the events surrounding the succession, creating a virtual conclave that involves lay people in everything from voting to prayer.
 
"I think it's fabulous for the church," said Brother Martin Browne, a Benedictine monk in County Limerick, Ireland, who is following Vatican analysts and reporters on Twitter instead of watching general news coverage. "I think more people understand what's going on now because there's greater access to good information."
 
No one will be posting updates from inside the Sistine Chapel. The Vatican will activate electronic jamming devices so no one can listen in or report out. "You obviously can't have cardinals inside the conclave tweeting 'Uh-oh, trending right now: new young cardinal from wherever,'" said Greg Burke, a Vatican communications adviser.

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Dark financial clouds hang over Vatican

CBS News) ROME - All roads lead to Rome, and the road to the papacy starts here.

First thing tomorrow, the cardinals who will choose the next pope will gather at St. Peter's Basilica to celebrate mass together.

Then, in the afternoon, they will march to the Sistine Chapel, lock the door and begin the conclave, where they will begin casting their votes for the new spiritual leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics, including more than 66 million in the United States.

Today, the cardinals held the last in a series of private consultations about the kind of leader the church needs.

As they did, red velvet was hung on the doors leading to the central balcony of St. Peter's. It is on that balcony that the new pope will be introduced to the world.

The Vatican is more than the world's largest religious institution -- it's a business. It is also a business in trouble. Behind great ecclesiastical pageants, like former Pope Benedict's farewell, there are back-room financial scandals at Vatican Inc.

In an old stone tower, in Vatican City, is the Vatican Bank.

The church's various departments, its priests and employees keep accounts here; secret accounts, hidden from the prying eyes international regulators. An Italian court investigating the bank found documents showing some accounts had been used for money-laundering and other illegal -- and for the church, highly embarrassing -- activities.

Vatican watchers, like Marco Politi, have studied the court documents that verified the bank's transactions have not always been kosher.

"There was money of the mafia who was recycled through the channels of the Vatican Bank, and also bribe money to political parties in Italy went through the Vatican Bank," Politi said.

With dark financial clouds hanging over the Vatican, the European Union insisted the bank open its accounts to public scrutiny. When it was too slow, tourists felt the pinch. When European bankers suspended the Vatican's credit card facilities, visitors couldn't use plastic to buy Sistine Chapel tickets.


Thirty million dollars of Vatican money in Italian banks was seized and only released when the Church promised to reform.


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That kind of thing seems to match up with the merchants of the world being at odds with the Great Wh0re.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh0re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." Revelations 17:16 (KJB)
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Conclave To Elect Final Pope Starts Tues

The College of Cardinals' eighth General Congregation has decided that the Conclave for the election of the new Pope will begin on 12 March 2013. This is according to a communiqué issued by the Holy See Press Office. The Mass "Pro Eligendo Pontefice" will be celebrated in St. Peter's Basilica in the morning andf in the afternoon cardinals will begin the Conclave. The 115 cardinal electors are ready to vote for the new Pope. The average age of the cardinals is 72, most of them were appointed by Benedict XVI and over half of them are European. There are 28 Italian cardinal electors making them the largest group but all five continents are represented. Italy is the most represented country in the Conclave, with 28 cardinals. It is followed by the United States, which has 11 cardinal electors and Germany with 6. Spain and Brazil will have five cardinals...
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/conclave-22998/


Over 20 Moles Inside Vatican Says La Repubblica Interview

An anonymous report of a group of over 20 moles planning to leak more information from inside the Vatican was circulating in Italian media on Thursday. "There are many, more than 20 people, all tied to the Holy See. We're made up of men and women, laypeople and prelates," an anonymous, self-proclaimed former mole said, according to an interview in Italian daily La Repubblica. Anonymous and unsourced reports from alleged insiders at the Vatican have been surfacing in Italian media in the weeks following the announcement of Benedict XVI's resignation on February 11. Many outlets have speculated that one motive for Benedict's abdication was the so-called Vatileaks case last year, when the pope's butler was arrested and...
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The End Begins: Second Vatican State To Be Established In Jerusalem

People are not aware that the planning of a the seat of the last antichrist has reached its final stages. This work got a booster after the implementation of the Oslo “peace accord”. The final push for the end game, started with the formation of The Council of the Religious Institutions of the Holy Land in 2005. This council has Muslims, Jews, Catholics and claimed to be “Christians” in its governing body. When you read their statement of faith, you are introduced to the final One World Religion. They try to tell us that all faiths leads to the same god. Now they plan the arrival of their leader.... collected from the governance of the present Papal system. The final plan will be presented to the government of Israel as an offer, they simply “have to” accept. The new statehood in Eastern Jerusalem will have a “Chief administrator” who govern a “special regime”. His powers will be similar to the Pope of Rome.

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WHITE SMOKE OR BLACK SMOKE?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21750661

A chapel vote, then a papal vote...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_CONCLAVE_SCHEDULE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-12-06-11-16

Cardinals swear oath of secrecy...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_OATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-12-06-02-30

The 20 men who could be Pope...
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/12/17270315-from-rome-to-africa-meet-the-20-men-who-could-be-pope?lite

Anti-mafia cops raid diocese...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/12/cardinals-overcome-divisions-conclave-pope
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So this Oslo "peace accord" from years ago could be this convenant that the AC confirms?

No wonder why it's been hanging out for so long... Undecided
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BLACK SMOKE, NO POPE...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21750661

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Rick Warren fasts and prays for Rome conclave

This morning Saddleback’s pastor Rick Warren asked his Twitter fans to follow him as he fasts and prays for the cardinals who will select the new pope.



Will he pray for the truth of God’s breathed-out Word to be proclaimed to Catholics everywhere? Will he ask God to convict these leaders to repent of false teaching and ask forgiveness for pointing these sheep away from the Bible and toward Mary as a co-redeemer with Jesus?



Certainly God is in control and knows who the next pope will be. He even knows how this pope will influence and perhaps orchestrate the events that God will use to reveal Himself in His coming as He promised. Time is growing shorter, and we have a huge opportunity to reach the lost with the message of repentance and forgiveness, and proclaim Christ crucified for our sins once and for all.
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well, we now know for sure dont we. no more hiding or facades.
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well, we now know for sure dont we. no more hiding or facades.

it is official!

How can these Cardinals know God's Will if they aren't even saved? Roll Eyes
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Pope Conclave 2013: Anti-Paedophile Bishop Blames Vatican Conspiracies For Benedict’s Resignation

An influential Catholic bishop, who fought paedophilia and sex abuse in the Church, has given new strength to claims that Pope Benedict XVI resigned over power struggles and infights in Vatican. Monsignor Charles Scicluna, 53, said Benedict stepped down to make way for a stronger pope, able to get a grip of Vatican power struggles. Scicluna told Il Correire della Sera: "He [Benedict] wanted to leave room for a person able to take the reins of the situation. This is a message cardinals [voting to elect a new pontiff] can't neglect." Scicluna was appointed promoter of justice in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office tasked with overseeing Church's integrity, and to asked in 2002 by then cardonal Joseph Ratzinger to investigate claims of sex abuse by clergymen.
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Popes & Demons: Mysterious Vatican Bank Poses Problem For New Pontiff

As the world waits for the Vatican’s conclave to select a new pope to lead 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, and the church’s sex abuse scandals dominate discourse on the incoming pontiff’s priorities, another decidedly worldly issue is also poised to take an immediate toll on the new Holy Father: money. The public and private woes of the Vatican bank, long shrouded in secrets and whispers, might well prove to be just as challenging, if not as draining, as the lurid, faith-shaking damage of the clergy abuse scandal. With a two-year probe by Italian authorities into money laundering, poor transparency, inadequate adherence to standards for guarding against criminal and terrorist financing, and questions over sudden changes in its leadership, the bank represents another crisis of morals, legalities and perception. The importance of the Vatican bank in Pope Benedict XVI’s grand vision can be assumed from the urgency it held with the outgoing pontiff: among the last official acts before his shock retirement was overhauling...
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Petrus Romanus Cardinal Electors Want Full "Vatileaks" Disclosure

It is known throughout the Vatican as the Relatio (Narration). It is contained in two stiff, unmarked red folders and runs to around 300 pages. Lying in a safe in the papal apartments of the Apostolic Palace overlooking St Peter's Square, it will be at the forefront of the minds of the 115 cardinals who on Tuesday are to file into the Sistine chapel to start the conclave that elects the next pope. In the Relatio are the findings of three cardinal-detectives, appointed last year by ex-pope Benedict XVI to investigate the leaking of documents from his study. The cardinals, headed by a Spanish member of the Opus Dei fellowship, Cardinal Julián Herranz, discovered the main source of the leaks – the pope's butler, Paolo Gabriele. But they found a great deal else – and some of it is reportedly extremely compromising. According to one unconfirmed report, they stumbled on a gay sex ring in the Vatican, some of whose members had...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/10/new-pope-curia-secret-report-cardinals

Before Smoke Rises At Vatican, It’s Romans Versus The Reformers

With all of the uproar over Vatican scandals, the Romans are aware that they may fail if they back one of their own, and so they are said to be coalescing behind the Brazilian, Cardinal Odilo Pedro Scherer, the archbishop of São Paulo. Cardinal Scherer is of German heritage, but his selection would give the Roman Catholic Church its first pope from Latin America. The region is home to about 40 percent of the world’s Catholics, and the church is staving off challenges there both from surging evangelical churches and a drift toward secularism. The reformers, led by the Americans and some influential Europeans, are reportedly uniting around the Italian, Cardinal Angelo Scola, the archbishop of Milan, a popular pastor and an erudite moral theologian. As an Italian, he is familiar with the culture that dominates the Vatican bureaucracy, but he is not a part of it or beholden to it.
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Signs In The Sky: Demon Comet Tom Horn Spoke Of To Appear Today Near Moon When Final Conclave Begins!

On March 12 and 13, the comet Pan-STARRS (Pan-demonium, all the demons) will appear close to the moon, possibly even silhouetting it according to SPACE.com stargazing columnist Geoff Gaherty, an astronomer with the Starry Night Education night sky software company. Then on April 3, the comet should be in the same part of the sky as the Andromeda Galaxy. Although the comet won't still be visible with the naked eye, stargazers with telescopes could still get a nice view of the comet and galaxy, Gaherty explained. Pan-STARRS has already put on a show for stargazers in the Southern Hemisphere. It is one of several comets in the night sky expected to dazzle observers this year. Last month, amateur astronomers managed to photograph Pan-STARRS and another celestial wanderer — Comet Lemmon — at the same time to document rare photos of two comets together in the night sky...

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Now if the next pope decides he wants the public to meet somebody that can "help" the world...
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Black smoke as morning fails to bring new pope

Cardinals in secret conclave failed twice on Wednesday morning to elect a new pope, as black smoke over the Sistine Chapel showed ballots on the first full day of voting were inconclusive.

After an inconclusive first vote on Tuesday night, the 115 cardinal electors should hold another two ballots later on Wednesday after praying for inspiration from God for a choice that can lead the Roman Catholic Church out of crisis.

Having spent the night closeted in a nearby guesthouse, the cardinals attended Mass in the Pauline Chapel in the Vatican's Apostolic Palace and returned to the Renaissance splendor of the Sistine Chapel to hold the two morning ballots.

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Wouldn't surprise me if not only they have this last Pope already selected(and many moons ago), but will also wait until the last minute(this weekend) to make his election official. That way, they can get this dog and pony show going to where the public will chatter and buzz among themselves all week.

Can't say who will be "elected", but the most wicked one of the candidates will be the guy...

2Tim 3:13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Rev 22:10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

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Wouldn't surprise me if not only they have this last Pope already selected(and many moons ago), but will also wait until the last minute(this weekend) to make his election official. That way, they can get this dog and pony show going to where the public will chatter and buzz among themselves all week.

Can't say who will be "elected", but the most wicked one of the candidates will be the guy...

2Tim 3:13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Rev 22:10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.



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Signs In The Sky: Demon Comet Tom Horn Spoke Of To Appear Today Near Moon When Final Conclave Begins!

On March 12 and 13, the comet Pan-STARRS (Pan-demonium, all the demons) will appear close to the moon, possibly even silhouetting it according to SPACE.com stargazing columnist Geoff Gaherty, an astronomer with the Starry Night Education night sky software company. Then on April 3, the comet should be in the same part of the sky as the Andromeda Galaxy. Although the comet won't still be visible with the naked eye, stargazers with telescopes could still get a nice view of the comet and galaxy, Gaherty explained. Pan-STARRS has already put on a show for stargazers in the Southern Hemisphere. It is one of several comets in the night sky expected to dazzle observers this year. Last month, amateur astronomers managed to photograph Pan-STARRS and another celestial wanderer — Comet Lemmon — at the same time to document rare photos of two comets together in the night sky...

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White smoke rises from Sistine Chapel, signaling Roman Catholic cardinals have elected new pope - @NBCNews
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Cardinals elect new pope on fifth ballot
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VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- To the delighted surprise of many, clouds of white smoke poured from the chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel March 13, indicating a pope had been elected on the conclave's fifth ballot.

The smoke signal went off at 7:05 p.m. The 115 cardinals gathered to elect the 266th successor of Peter had taken one vote late March 12 and two votes the next morning, resulting in clouds of black smoke.

The Vatican estimated it would be about an hour before Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, the top-ranking cardinal deacon, would come out onto the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica and confirm the election with the phrase "Habemus papam" (We have a pope).

The white smoke comes from burning the ballots and cardinals' notes and tallies along with special chemicals to produce abundant white smoke.

But the world did not know the identity of the new pope right away. While the bells of St. Peter's Basilica rang out the news of the election of the new pope, he was inside the Sistine Chapel changing into papal vestments and praying with the cardinals who just elected him.

He also was scheduled to stop on his way to the balcony to pray briefly before the Blessed Sacrament in the Pauline Chapel, where the cardinals began their solemn procession into the conclave March 12.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected on the fourth ballot at the conclave in 2005, taking the name Pope Benedict XVI. Unlike eight years ago, however, most people believe there was no clear favorite going into the conclave, which led to surprise that it was over so quickly.

Two stoves, leading to one smokestack, were installed in the Sistine Chapel for the conclave. The ballots and any notes or tallies individual cardinals made are burned in one stove. The other stove burns special chemical cartridges designed to create clouds of black or white smoke for a full seven minutes.

Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, told reporters the cartridges producing black smoke have potassium perchlorate, anthracene and sulphur. Those producing white smoke have potassium chlorate, lactose and a pine resin. To improve the draught, making sure the smoke goes up and out instead of filling the Sistine Chapel with smoke as occurred in 2005, the pipes leading to the roof are pre-heated with an electrical current.

Four Catholic students from Duquesne University's Rome campus were in the square awaiting the smoke March 13. One of them, Josh Suhey of Youngstown, Ohio, said, "We're here to see the pope and be part of history."

Asked about the cardinals using smoke to communicate with the outside world, another student, Concetta Staltari from Pittsburgh, said, "I think it's great, really awesome to stick to tradition." She said she couldn't wait to hear the bells ring, too, with a successful election.

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« Reply #147 on: March 13, 2013, 02:08:39 pm »

wow CBS live feed just cut out and went to some basketball game
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Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Argentina is elected pope - live video

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Pope Francis

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Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ (born December 17, 1936) is the current pope of the Roman Catholic Church, elected on March 13, 2013 and taking the regnal name of Francis. Prior to his election, he served as an Argentine cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. He has served as the Archbishop of Buenos Aires since 1998. He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2001.


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