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« Reply #210 on: May 29, 2013, 10:15:13 am »

Vatican corrects Pope: Atheists are still going to hell

After Pope Francis told the world even atheists can go to heaven, the Vatican issued a correction: Atheists are still going to hell.

The Vatican issued an “explanatory note on the meaning of “salvation,” on Thursday, May 23, after media reports circulated indicating that Pope Francis” promised heaven for everyone engaged in good works, including atheists.
 
In response to the media attention, the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who know about the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”
 
(Translation: Atheists are going to Hell if they don’t accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.)
 
Rosica also said that Francis had “no intention of provoking a theological debate on the nature of salvation,” during his homily on Wednesday.
 
The current theological confusion began after the leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made comments during the homily of his morning Mass on Wednesday, May 22, indicating that atheists would enjoy the fruits of eternal salvation if they were good people. Francis said:
 

The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!
 
We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter: we need that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.

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« Reply #211 on: May 29, 2013, 01:05:58 pm »

Looks like Satan is rising up against himself...no surprise...
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« Reply #212 on: May 29, 2013, 05:12:37 pm »

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In response to the media attention, the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who know about the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”

So they correct the pope's doctrinal ignorance with heresy!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #213 on: May 30, 2013, 05:50:44 am »

So they correct the pope's doctrinal ignorance with heresy!  Roll Eyes

I know right, that is so funny.  Cheesy
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« Reply #214 on: June 02, 2013, 05:34:29 am »

Man Pope Prayed Over Still 'Possessed'

A 43-year-old Mexican father of two, who claims to be possessed by demons — and whom Pope Francis prayed over earlier this month in what some witnesses likened to a public exorcism — insists that he still has demons inside him.

Identified only as Angel V., the man told Spanish-language newspaper El Mundo that he had undergone some 30 exorcisms by 10 exorcists, including the renowned Roman exorcist Rev. Gabriel Amorth, who all tried unsuccessfully to free him from his affliction. The interview was reported in the Italian daily La Stampa.

“I still have the demons inside me, they have not gone away,” the man said, noting that he felt much better after the Pope prayed over him. El Mundo reported that the man is able to walk. He was in a wheelchair when he met Pope Francis on May 19 at the conclusion of Mass on Pentecost Sunday.

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« Reply #215 on: June 03, 2013, 04:22:25 am »

In a wheelchair? Who said he needed a chair? Old school tent revival fakes use to do that, put people in chairs, then "heal" them, and have them stand up, making the audience think they were healed and can now walk!  Roll Eyes

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Obviously scripture yet again is correct. Satan cannot cast out Satan!

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« Reply #216 on: June 03, 2013, 11:03:57 am »

They are all fakes to begin with, but for the most part, they rarely ever mention the name of Jesus Christ. Remember that Asian missionary guy that went after me a couple of years ago - he started yelling in some crazy tongues(and he looked like he was in a trance), but not once did he ever mention Jesus Christ.(ie-at the end when he looked desperate, it looked like he yelled, "Get out! GET OUT!")

And of course he started out by telling my "sins" in front of the pastor - again, test the spirits by using the WHOLE council of God - he needed to come to me IN PRIVATE first. And when making an accusation like this, he also needed 1 or 2 other witnesses confirming the same thing.
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« Reply #217 on: June 07, 2013, 12:37:15 pm »

Francis gets personal: 'I didn't want to be pope'

Pope Francis has revealed that he never wanted to be pope and that he's living in the Vatican hotel for his "psychiatric" health.
 
Francis got very personal Friday as he met with thousands of children from Jesuit schools across Italy and Albania. Answering their questions one by one, Francis told them the decision to become a priest had been difficult for him and that he had suffered "moments of interior darkness" when "you feel dry, without interior joy."
 
But he said he went ahead because he loved Christ.
 
One of the most touching moments came when Teresa, a bright-eyed redhead no more than six, asked Francis flat out if he had wanted to be pope.
 
After joking around, Francis replied: "I didn't want to be pope."

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« Reply #218 on: June 07, 2013, 01:48:31 pm »

Hey Frank, you can quit!

All you need to do is fall to your knees and repent of that wickedness called the RCC, and walk away.

"Confess your faults..." I know you want to. Just walk out into St. Peter's Square and do it in front of God and the world, live on CNN.

And PLEASE put a match to those stupid silk slippers!  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #219 on: June 08, 2013, 05:36:45 am »

 Cheesy Frank! Cheesy That cracked me up! I could just see flames on those little slippers now! Spain has some nice leather wingtips AND they need the $! Flee the Vatican now!
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Francis could organise peace meeting between world’s three major religions, in Rome

Israeli government sources say the Pope spoke to President Shimon Peres in a meeting between Jews, Christians and Muslims, aimed at speaking out against violence. Rabbi Rosen has asked for steps to be taken to bring peace to the Holy Land

Israeli government sources claim Francis is apparently thinking of calling a meeting between leaders and faithful of the world’s three biggest monotheistic religions, in Rome, to launch a message of peace, countering violence and the use of God’s name to justify hatred and terrorist acts. The sources say the Pope announced his intention to call a meeting, during an Audience last 30 April. But there was no mention of this in the communiqué the Holy See’s issued after the Audience. 
 
President Peres “told the Pope that there are people who use God’s name to justify terrorism” and religious leaders should “say out loud that God did not give anyone permission to kill their neighbour.” According to the information contained in a summary of the Audience received by the Israeli government, Francis told Peres he “whole-heartedly supported” his appeal against violence and that “he wanted to promote a meeting between religious leaders and faithful of the three major religions” founded by Abraham, “in Rome”. The aim would be to “make people see” that the religions “oppose violence and terrorism.”
 
If these statements were indeed made during the Audience, it looks like the Pope is thinking about possible peace initiatives that would be restricted to the world’s three major monotheistic faiths. It would not be an interreligious meeting involving all faiths, like the Assisi gatherings organised by John Paul II and then by Benedict XVI in 2011. Readers will remember that in January 2002, just a few months after the 9/11 attacks in the U.S., Pope John Paul II convened a special meeting of religions in Assisi, in order to make it crystal clear that in no way could violence and terrorism be justified on theological grounds.
 
But in Israel, there are those who would like religions to nudge politicians to come up with viable solutions to the conflict in the Middle East. The President of the International Council of Christians and Jews (Iccj), Rabbi David Rosen, has asked the Pope to help leaders of the Jewish and Muslim religions to promote an initiative for peace in the Holy Land. Speaking to a group of Italian journalists, Rosen suggested the Pope convene a meeting between the Holy Land’s religious leaders, in Jerusalem, to pray for peace in the region. “2015 could be a perfect time to do this as it will mark the fiftieth anniversary of the promulgation of “Nostra Aetate”, the Second Vatican Council declaration on the Relation of the Church with Non-<wbr></wbr>Christian Religions”. The Rabbi said an initiative like this was important as it would “boost political efforts to resolve conflicts in the region.”

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« Reply #222 on: June 14, 2013, 10:31:24 am »

Pope wades diplomatically into gay marriage debate
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VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis waded diplomatically into the gay marriage debate Friday, telling the Archbishop of Canterbury he wants to work together to promote family values "based on marriage."

Francis, who vigorously opposed gay marriage in his native Argentina, and Archbishop Justin Welby chatted, prayed and had lunch together at the Vatican in their first encounter since both were installed in March.

Welby, the spiritual leader of the 77 million-strong Anglican Communion, has opposed legislation in Britain that would legalize gay marriage, saying it would undermine family life.

He appeared last week before the House of Lords before it moved the gay marriage bill a step closer to becoming law. The legislation would enable gay couples to get married in both civil and religious ceremonies in England and Wales.

In his remarks to Welby, Francis said he hoped they could collaborate in promoting the sacredness of life "and the stability of families founded on marriage." He noted that Welby had recently spoken out on the issue, a reference to his House of Lords testimony.

Significantly, though, Francis didn't say that marriage should be based on a union between a man and woman, which is how Benedict XVI and John Paul II routinely defined marriage.

Vatican officials said it was a diplomatic attempt to make his point without making a provocative pronouncement. Francis has steered clear of the gay marriage debate as it has recently roiled France and Britain, and in general has refrained from making headline-grabbing comments on hot-button current events.

As archbishop of Buenos Aires, however, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio didn't shy away from voicing strong opposition to gay marriage, though he was pragmatic in sensing Argentina was heading in that direction.

Realizing the church couldn't win the fight outright, Bergoglio urged his fellow Argentine bishops to lobby for gay civil unions instead, according to the then-cardinal's authorized biographer. The bishops shot down the proposal and the church lost the issue altogether when the South American nation legalized gay marriage in 2010 — the first country in the region to do so.

Bergoglio once called gay marriage an "anthropological step backward."

"If there's a private union, then third parties and society aren't affected," he wrote. "But if they're granted marriage rights and can adopt, there could be children affected. Every person needs a masculine father and a feminine mother to help them settle their identity."
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« Reply #223 on: June 16, 2013, 08:52:16 pm »

Giant motorcycle gang pays homagevto the Pope

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« Reply #224 on: June 17, 2013, 06:48:47 am »

that was soooooo stupid. but hey, we are talking about an organization that worships a cookie as god.
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« Reply #226 on: July 16, 2013, 04:05:03 am »

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New Pope; Same Old Deception
 Issue Date: July/August 2013

Common to the popes is a strong thread of ecumenism: the thrust to unify all religions, including “Christians.” Evangelical leaders have swallowed the bait, working together on “common causes” such as abortion, biblical marriage, and sanctity of life.

This cooperation clouded the anti-Christ factors of: salvation by works, pope’s authority as Christ’s vice president on earth (Vicar), purgatory, priestcraft hierarchy, and worship of the wafer god and the Virgin Mary goddess. Even though Roman Catholicism has all the features used to define cults such as Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses, Evangelicals have bought the lie that it is just another “denomination,” with a different worship style.

Christianity Today headlined an article, “A Pope for All Christians,” just before Francis was elected. In it is a quote about Catholic-Evangelical relations by Brian Stiller, a global ambassador for the World Evangelical Alliance: “Not in 500 years have the two sides been so close and friendly.” The tone of the article is clearly that we are all Christians with a common gospel and brotherhood. “Whether we Protestants like to admit it or not, though, there is a single person in Rome who can influence Christians of every stripe to work more heartily in the cause of Christ…,” the article concludes.

Now that he has the Protestants in his pocket, the new pope went on to make an astounding statement in a recent speech: “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace.”

This is a bold disregard of a huge block of scriptures that draw a clear line between believers and unbelievers. Redemption is what happens to believers only. It is offered to unbelievers, but if they reject it they remain unredeemed sinners no matter how much “good” they do. It is clear that this pope plans to continue the campaigning of previous popes to become the head of the coming one-world religion. This modern push for ecumenism began in earnest at the Second Ecumenical Council at the Vatican during the early 1960s.

Having failed to blunt the Reformation by inquisition and world wars, Rome decided to try the honey of deception. A world-wide campaign began to seduce the Protestants into believing that Catholicism was just another denomination.

Now that that is accomplished, the push is on to bring in the other religions. In 2011, Pope Benedict held a fourth meeting in Assisi, France, of delegates of a dozen world religions from Muslim to Hindu to Yoruba. Pope John Paul II had hosted similar meetings in 1986, 1993 and 2002 to pray together and discuss world peace.

From the above quotes, it is obvious that Pope Francis is continuing to push this “unity,” sacrificing the Bible along the way. With a Jesuit pope in place we can expect a renewed drive by the Jesuits of their agenda to bring all religions under the authority of the papacy.

Few voices are raised today against this prostitute “church,” identified in Revelation 17 and 18. Many years ago Jack Chick was led to pick up the Reformation’s message that the Vatican was the **** of Revelation. Several tracts, books and comics are now available in our catalog and on the chick.com website.
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not surprising, he has the spirit of an antichrist
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« Reply #228 on: July 22, 2013, 01:27:29 am »

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Report: Pope Francis Appointee Has History of Gay Affairs

There’s a fresh set of scandalous tales circulating around the Vatican.

Depending on whom you ask, it’s either the infamous “gay lobby” scrubbing the personnel records of a misbehaving priest to protect one of their own, or it’s opponents of Pope Francis’ efforts at reform – who may or may not be members of the infamous “gay lobby” – whipping up falsehoods about a priest who only wants to help Francis hose out dirty dealing from the Institute for Works of Religion, aka the “Vatican bank.”

Both options are unsavory, and neither one bodes well for the 76-year-old Argentinian-born pope’s aim of stamping out corruption in the heart of the Roman Catholic Church – or for the Church’s ongoing troubles with dishonorable and dishonest priests who neither take seriously its moral teachings nor their sacred vows.

On July 18, Sandro Magister, a longtime, respected reporter on Vatican issues, published a piece in the weekly L’Espresso magazine, titled “The Prelate of the Gay Lobby.”

In it, he claimed that 57-year-old Monsignor Battista Ricca, a veteran Vatican diplomat recently appointed by Pope Francis to serve as his representative, or “prelate,” at the Vatican bank, has long been living a not-very-secret double life.

According to Magister, Ricca was serving in Bern, Switzerland, when he met Patrick Haari, a captain of the Swiss army (NOT a member of the Vatican’s Swiss Guard, as has been widely reported). The article states Ricca brought Haari with him when he was sent to Montevideo, Uruguay, in 1999, where they carried on a rather public relationship, during which Ricca secured a job for Haari.

Magister reports that Ricca’s conduct scandalized religious and laity in Uruguay, and that a new papal nuncio (the head of a diplomatic mission of the Holy See), Janusz Bolonek of Poland, unsuccessfully tried to eject Haari.

In addition, the article cites reports in 2001 of Ricca being beaten after visiting a meeting place for gays, and also getting trapped in an elevator with what is suspected to have been a male prostitute.

Magister asserts that Nuncio Bolonek wanted Ricca out and Haari fired, and that the Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, agreed. Ricca went to Trinidad and Tobago. He remained there until 2004 and reportedly didn’t fare much better at getting along with the local nuncio. So, he finally returned to the Vatican.

There, Ricca held a number of administrative positions, acquiring, according to Magister, a reputation in the media as an “incorruptible moralizer.” Then in 2006, he took over management of different clerical residences in Rome, including Saint Martha’s House, where Pope Francis has been living.

According to Magister, the new pontiff hadn’t heard of the scandals surrounding Ricca and saw nothing to give him concern in the man’s Vatican personnel folder.

Magister says that some of the pope’s senior advisers, or “bosses,” as he puts it, have “hatched against Jorge Mario Bergoglio the cruelest and most subtle deception since he was elected pope.

“They kept in the dark important information that, had he known it before, would have kept him from appointing Monsignor Battista Ricca ‘prelate’ of the Institute for the Works of Religion.”

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi – a Jesuit, like Pope Francis – fired back at Magister, calling the report “not credible.”

Also, Matteo Matzuzzi, who writes for the Italian newspaper Il Foglio, quoted Lombardi on Twitter as saying that “Pope Francis is aware of the accusations made against Msgr. Ricca but has decided to keep him in his position,” and that “The pope has not had the chance to verify whether the accusations against Msgr. Ricca were consistent or not.”

For those that read Italian, the original tweets read, “P.Lombardi: ‘#PapaFrancesco è a conoscenza delle accuse mosse a mons. Ricca, ma ha deciso di lasciarlo al suo posto’” and “P.Lombardi: ‘Il #Papa ha avuto modo di verificare se le accuse a mons. Ricca fossero consistenti o meno’.”

Incidentally, since Francis is about to leave for Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, for several days to preside over the mass gathering of young Catholic pilgrims called World Youth Day, it seems likely he would defer any major decisions until he gets back. So, keeping Ricca in place for now may or may not be an indication of his ultimate fate.

L’Espresso fired back quickly at Lombardi with this statement:

To Father Lombardi, who defines as 'not trustworthy' what was published regarding Msgr. Ricca, L'Espresso replies reaffirming point by point the facts referred by Sandro Magister in his piece, confirmed by several primary sources and, as a whole, considered at the time of such gravity by the same Vatican authorities that forced them to remove the Monsignor from the Uruguay nunciature, in which he rendered his service, giving scandal to bishops, priests, religious and lay persons in that country.

It can be added that the Vatican authorities, instead of making up improbable and ad-lib denials, could verify the trustworthiness of all that was published by L'Espresso by simply consulting the exhaustive documentation in their possession on the affair, in particular that related to his time in the Montevideo nunciature. Further documentation is available from the Uruguayan authorities, from security forces to fire brigades. Not to mention the numerous bishops, priests, religious, laymen in Uruguay who were direct witnesses of the scandal and are ready to speak.

In a post on July 19, Vatican journalist John L. Allen Jr. of the National Catholic Reporter – which, aside from the respected Allen, has a reputation of being generally more sympathetic to liberal dissidents against the Church than orthodox Catholics – quoted a “senior Vatican official” as saying on background that “the pope has listened to everyone and has confidence in Ricca.”

Francis’s aim of reforming the Vatican bank is a serious endeavor. Italian authorities arrested a former Vatican accountant on charges he was involved in smuggling $26 million worth of euros.

Pope Francis has already accepted the resignations of two top administrators at the bank, who are facing a civil investigation in Italy for allegedly laundering money.

The pope has also established a lay commission to survey inner workings of Vatican departments, find ways to battle corruption and favoritism, and to make the finances more transparent and efficient.

In a statement, the Vatican said the goal is “the simplification and rationalization of the existing bodies and more careful planning of the economic activities of all the administrations.”

As to the two possible explanations for the Ricca affair listed above, Damian Thompson of Britain’s The Telegraph quoted from an email newsletter written by Vatican expert – and the author of a new book about Pope Francis – Dr. Robert Moynihan, which outlines Ricca’s good reputation at the Vatican in recent years and the monsignor’s growing relationship with Francis over meals at St. Martha’s House.

Moynihan believes this could be Francis’ first real crisis, writing:

I have been a Vaticanist for a quarter century. In those years, I have seen many cases when what seems to be true at first glance is not the truth, or not the whole truth. There is information, and there is disinformation. There are maneuvers to gain influence or to ward off change. This can even include discrediting a person with false charges. We must be very attentive to weigh all evidence and to ask: Is it true? Who provided the evidence? For what purpose or goal? Why now? And, could the facts have a more innocent explanation than appears at first glance? In short, we have to be cautious, and careful, and fair.

American writer and editor Rod Dreher, writing in “The American Conservative” on July 19, blamed the incident on the “lavender mafia,” and wrote:

I don’t know anything about Ricca, but the process outlined here is very familiar. It’s the kind of thing Church insiders — priests, especially — talk about privately, but not in public, and definitely not on the record. In this case, it’s crystal clear that other Vatican insiders who are sick and tired of this garbage leaked the Ricca files to Magister, one of the top Vatican journalists and commentators. Now we will see what Pope Francis will do.

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« Reply #229 on: July 25, 2013, 09:59:28 am »

Religion News: Pope Francis travels Brazil without bulletproof Popemobile

http://www.tauntongazette.com/religion/x1815312865/Religion-News-Pope-Francis-travels-Brazil-without-bulletproof-Popemobile

Wonder what Tom Horn would say if something did happen?
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Religion News: Pope Francis travels Brazil without bulletproof Popemobile

http://www.tauntongazette.com/religion/x1815312865/Religion-News-Pope-Francis-travels-Brazil-without-bulletproof-Popemobile

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Yeah, he's sure setting himself up.
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Pope says gays must not be judged or marginalized
7/29/13

ROME (Reuters) - Pope Francis, in some of the most compassionate words from any pontiff on gays, said they should not be judged or marginalized and should be integrated into society, but he reaffirmed Church teaching that homosexual acts are a sin.

In a broad-ranging 80-minute conversation with journalists on the plane bringing him back from a week-long visit to Brazil, Francis also said the Roman Catholic Church's ban on women priests was definitive, although he would like them to have more leadership roles in administration and pastoral activities.

Francis defended gays from discrimination in what was his first news conference since being elected pontiff in March, but also referred to the Catholic Church's universal Catechism, which says that while homosexual orientation is not sinful homosexual acts are.

"If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge him?" the pope said.

"The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well. It says they should not be marginalized because of this (orientation) but that they must be integrated into society," he said, speaking in Italian.

"The problem is not having this orientation. We must be brothers. The problem is lobbying by this orientation, or lobbies of greedy people, political lobbies, Masonic lobbies, so many lobbies. This is the worse problem," he said.

Francis was answering a question about reports of a "gay lobby" in the Vatican.

"You see a lot written about the gay lobby. I still have not seen anyone in the Vatican with an identity card saying they are gay," he joked.

Addressing the issue of women priests, the pope said, "The Church has spoken and says 'no' ... that door is closed." It was the first time he had spoken in public on the subject.

"We cannot limit the role of women in the Church to altar girls or the president of a charity, there must be more ...," he said in answer to a question during a remarkably frank conversation with Vatican journalists.

"But with regards to the ordination of women, the Church has spoken and says no. Pope John Paul said so with a formula that was definitive. That door is closed," he said referring to a document by the late pontiff which said the ban was part of the infallible teaching of the Church.

The Church teaches that it cannot ordain women because Jesus willingly chose only men as his apostles. Advocates of a female priesthood say he was acting according to the customs of his times.

Many in the Church, even those who oppose a female priesthood, say women should be given leadership roles in the Church and the Vatican administration.

Francis arrived back in Rome on Monday after a triumphant week-long tour of Brazil which climaxed with a huge gathering on Rio de Janeiro's famed Copacabana beach for a world Catholic youth festival which organizers estimated to have attracted more than 3 million people.

(Reporting By Philip Pullella; editing by Barry Moody)
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« Reply #232 on: July 29, 2013, 07:12:08 am »

^^

Mat 5:27  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


James 2:10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12  So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

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« Reply #233 on: July 29, 2013, 07:26:33 am »

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 Cheesy guess that is the WHOLE problem right there.
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Pope says he won't judge gay priests

ABOARD THE PAPAL AIRCRAFT (July 29, 2013) - Pope Francis is indicating a more accepting attitude towards homosexuality.

In an interview aboard the papal aircraft today, he said he won't judge priests for their sexual orientation. In a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference the pope says, "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"
 
Francis' predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Francis has been much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.
 
 Francis' remarks came today during a plane journey back to the Vatican from his first foreign trip in Brazil.

 - See more at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/religion/pope-says-he-wont-judge-gay-priests#sthash.hEKT0P9k.dpuf

All those pontiff ped0philes are rejoicing right now
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« Reply #235 on: July 29, 2013, 08:24:28 am »

Heh - I wonder if FOX News and these "religious right" figures like Charles Stanley, Pat Robertson, Hal Lindsey, Ralph Reed, etc will expose this! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #236 on: July 29, 2013, 02:36:51 pm »

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/29/19755943-popes-remarks-seen-as-good-step-toward-inclusion
7/29/13
Pope's remarks seen as good step toward inclusion

Pope Francis’ comments Monday about gays triggered welcome reactions -- though most observers said his remarks merely reflected a tone of openness that he has set for his papacy and not a change in policy.

“If a person is gay, and looks for the Lord and had goodwill, who am I to judge them?” the pontiff said at a news conference in which he addressed the reports of a "gay lobby" within the Vatican.

Mary Ellen Lopata, who co-founded Fortunate Families, a networking ministry with Catholic parents of LGBT children, said it was a “refreshing statement after years of hearing less welcoming statements from church leadership” and called it a “good first step to understanding and love.

“I sense what he is saying is that we are all children of God and we need to treat each other that way regardless of our sexual orientation,” she said. “If that is indeed what he is saying, I think that is a good step forward for reconciling with gay and lesbian people around the world, and also their families.

"Much that’s been said in past years by church leaders has been very hurtful not only to gay and lesbian people but to their families as well.”

But Mark Dowd, a former Dominican friar in the U.K. who left the church partly because he fell in love with a former friar, doubted the comments represented a significant shift in the church, saying it made “a nice headline” and not much else.

“On a scale of zero to 10 about where we need to be, that’s moving from about zero to three as opposed to nine or ten,” said Dowd, a freelance broadcaster specializing in religion.

The official position of the Catholic Church on the issue is that while homosexual desires or attractions are not in themselves sinful, the physical acts are.

The pontiff’s remarks made for “good common ground,” said Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of Dignity USA, a group of LGBT Catholics.

“If someone loves the Lord and has goodwill -- the reality of that describes an awful lot of LGBT people,” she said. “There are a lot of LGBT people of faith who are working very hard to hold onto their faith and I think it would be important for us to bring our stories to the pope and other church leaders to move this conversation forward.”

A key step would be bridging the gap between some church leaders who engage in anti-gay rhetoric and their parishioners, many whom support LGBT rights, Duddy-Burke said. Fifty-four percent of Catholics support same-sex marriage, according to a Pew Forum poll released earlier this year.

“If Francis can be an instrument in healing that divide, we would certainly welcome that and are happy to partner with him,” she said, while noting that only time would tell what impact his remarks would have on daily life.

“How many times in recent months have we seen bishops indicate a willingness to look at the question of civil unions or some sort of legal recognition of same-sex couples (but) only a day or two later they have been forced to retract their statements? Will that happen with the pope? I don’t know, but I would hope that certainly even a change of tone or an indication of openness to discussing these issues is helpful," Duddy-Burke said.

LGBT advocacy groups recalled the pope’s speaking out against same-sex marriage in Argentina – where he was an archbishop and cardinal -- as well as the right for gay couples to adopt.

“This pope had a much more difficult relationship with gay people and the work to end anti-gay discrimination when he was in Argentina but since assuming the papacy he seems to be opening his heart and moving in the right direction,” said Evan Wolfson, president of Freedom to Marry.

“Certainly to have this kind of statement coming from the pope should create much more political space for decision makers (rather) than the constant pressure to discriminate that we heard from prior popes.”
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« Reply #237 on: July 29, 2013, 02:39:54 pm »

Not that I endorse the previous Popes, but none of them said anything along the lines of the current one.
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“If a person is gay, and looks for the Lord and had goodwill, who am I to judge them?” the pontiff said at a news conference in which he addressed the reports of a "gay lobby" within the Vatican.

And THAT folks is the problem. They don't judge even though they are caught up in serving the law of works, which law demands judgement at the house of God, to root out false brethren and false doctrines, to separate them from the body of believers till such a time they repent. They are free to act up elsewhere, but not around the body of Christ. But then the RCC is not the body of Christ, but is of the world, so it stands to reason they don't judge, or else they must judge themselves, and they won't do that because their deeds are in fact evil.

"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved." John 3:20 (KJB)
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« Reply #239 on: July 29, 2013, 04:26:15 pm »

http://lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-pope-homosexuality-and-abortion-in.html
7/29/13
The Pope, Homosexuality and Abortion in Brazil

As reported by Daily Mail, “The pope has said that he ‘will not judge’ gay priests. Speaking to reporters on a flight back from his week-long visit to sexually permissive Brazil, Pope Francis said he ‘would not stand in judgment’ of gays in the Vatican and that they should not be discriminated against. The pontiff’s remarks about gays mark a more conciliatory approach than his predecessor. Benedict signed a document in 2005 saying that men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests.”

Speech about not judging gay priests is a surprise, considering that the massive scandal involving pedophilia in the Catholic Church is largely linked to homosexuality among priests.

But the bigger surprise, at least to pro-life leaders in Brazil, is that socialist Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff is about to sign into law a pro-abortion bill, and the pope did not address any specific message about this urgent situation in Brazil. He left Brazil without speaking up against this imminent threat.

How can now Rousseff be pressured by pro-life Catholics and evangelicals when even the pope showed no willingness to tackle directly the abortion issue?

As an evangelical Christian, I think that the pope could make his controversial remark on homosexuality in another time. The absolute priority right now is to speak up against the imminence of abortion legalization in Brazil.

Why did not he speak?
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