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« Reply #450 on: March 09, 2014, 05:33:23 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-dolan-gay-marriage-150312090.html
Pope Francis wants church to study civil unions, Cardinal Dolan says
3/9/14

Pope Francis wants the Catholic Church to study same-sex unions, Cardinal Timothy Dolan said on NBC's "Meet The Press" on Sunday.

According to Dolan, Francis wants church leaders to "look into it and see the reasons that have driven them."

"It wasn't as if he came out and approved them,"  Dolan said.  "He said, 'Rather than quickly condemn them, let's just ask the questions as to why [gay marriage has] appealed to certain people."

In an interview published last week by an Italian newspaper, Francis reiterated the church's longstanding opinion that "marriage is between a man and a woman." But, he said, "We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety."

The Vatican moved quickly to clarify the comments.

"The Pope did not choose to enter into debates about the delicate matter of gay civil unions," Rev. Thomas Rosica, a consultant to the Vatican press office, said in a statement. "We should not try to read more into the Pope’s words than what has been stated in very general terms."

But according to the Catholic News Service, it was the first time a  pope has "indicated even tentative acceptance of civil unions."

When asked for his own views on same-sex marriage, Dolan said he is concerned it could "water down" the sanctity of traditional marriage.

"It's not something that's just a religious, sacramental concern," Dolan said. "It's also the building block of society and culture. So it belongs to culture. And if we water down that sacred meaning of marriage in any way, I worry that not only the church would suffer, I worry that culture and society would.”

Dolan was also asked about Michael Sam, the Univ. of Missouri football player, likely an NFL draft pick, who recently came out as gay.

"Good for him," Dolan said. "I would have no sense of judgment on him. God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same bible that tells us that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo
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Since being installed as pontiff in 2013, Francis has changed the tone coming out of Rome from one of exclusion to inclusion, irking some conservative Catholics in the process.

"I haven't sensed too much bristling among the conservatives," Dolan said. "They honestly will say, 'His style is a little different and might periodically cause us a little angst.' But in general they too seem to be rejoicing in what you might call the evangelical fervor, the good interest in the life of the church."

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Again, don't let the term "civil unions" fool you - what they're really saying is that it's OK to be a "little" pregnant.
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« Reply #451 on: March 10, 2014, 06:22:44 am »

"Good for him," Dolan said. "I would have no sense of judgment on him. God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same bible that tells us that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo.'"

1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

John 7:24  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
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« Reply #452 on: March 10, 2014, 01:57:52 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-man-won-over-world-five-minutes-023049004.html
Pope Francis: the man who won over the world in five minutes
3/9/14

Paris (AFP) - Five minutes. That's all it took to make papal history.

Never has a leader of the Roman Catholic Church become as popular in as short a time as Pope Francis did when he humbly asked the crowd gathered in St Peter's Square on March 13 last year to pray for him.

A year on, Francis, known for his gentle smile and infectious energy, has won over hearts worldwide. Admirers from Manila to Mexico fondly remember his first appearance on the balcony in the Vatican when he began with the simple greeting, "Good evening."

Maria Angelica Largo, a 50-year-old from Colombia, said she "immediately felt he was closer to the people, more simple and more human."

"We have never seen a pope become so popular in just a couple of minutes," said Odon Vallet, a French historian and an expert on religion.

The Argentine-born pope's humble and homespun style -- he likes to mingle with the crowds -- also bowled over Roger Kouassi, a teacher in the west African country of Ivory Coast for whom the main thing is that "Francis is closer to the people."

On Twitter too, the 77-year-old pontiff has built up a following of millions of people and his messages are re-tweeted more than those of tech-savvy US President Barack Obama.

Francis became the first non-European pope in nearly 1,300 years when he was elected by the College of Cardinals a year ago Thursday to succeed Benedict XVI, who chose to retire and is now pope emeritus.

Over the past year, Francis has won accolades and plaudits for powerful gestures such as washing the feet of young Muslim inmates, embracing the handicapped and asking that gay people not be judged.

- Being Catholic is 'in' -

In France, where only three percent of Catholics are identified as practising their religion, priests say there has been an increase in church attendance since Pope Francis' election.

"Before it was 'uncool' to be Catholic, now it's 'in'," said Vallet.

Still the man who was born Jorge Mario Bergoglio has to walk a tight rope in his papacy.

Among his challenges are the thorny issues of marriage for priests and overhauling the Vatican's coffers after a string of scandals, including allegations of waste, corruption and even money-laundering.

And the world's 1.2 billion Catholics are grappling with sensitive and often divisive issues, such as homosexuality and abortion.

In comments that made waves around the world, Francis last July famously asked: "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?".

Gay rights groups cautiously welcomed the words as a change in tone, but warned they did not reflect a shift in Catholic Church policy -- and certainly not a move towards accepting same-sex marriage.

"If homosexuals want to marry, they can do so in a civil ceremony but we cannot change the Church of Christ to suit one's tastes," said Aurora Gomez, a Catholic in Mexico.

On the other side of the Pacific in the world's fourth largest Catholic country, Filipino Nona Andaya-Castillo said she would back moves to ease Church policies on homosexuality.

But living in one of the few countries where abortion is still illegal, the 52-year-old added she opposed any moves to soften the Church's stance on that issue.

Although no one has expected Francis to make radical changes in doctrine, the pope has shown a willingness to encourage greater understanding and pastoral care of Christians who are divorced, single mothers, or homosexuals.

"The simple humanity of Francis has worked its charm," said Gilda Rey, a Catholic from the southern French city of Toulouse.

"He doesn't hesitate to mingle with the crowds or even celebrate Saint Valentine's Day. He's a very fraternal pope."
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« Reply #453 on: March 13, 2014, 01:51:51 pm »

.@SpeakerBoehner invites Pope Francis @Pontifex to address a Joint Meeting of Congress.Statement describes it as "an open invitation."



House Democratic Leader @NancyPelosi says she is "pleased to join @SpeakerBoehner in inviting his Holiness" to address Congress. @Pontifex
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.@SpeakerBoehner invites Pope Francis @Pontifex to address a Joint Meeting of Congress.Statement describes it as "an open invitation."



House Democratic Leader @NancyPelosi says she is "pleased to join @SpeakerBoehner in inviting his Holiness" to address Congress. @Pontifex


So is Francis coming to this for sure? Or is it just a mere invite for now?
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« Reply #455 on: March 13, 2014, 07:44:50 pm »

Raw: Vatican Releases New Pope Stamps, Coins
Associated Press Videos 0:48 mins

To mark the anniversary of Pope Francis' first year as pontiff, the Vatican released a new series of coins and stamps that carry the face of "the People's Pope." (March 13)
https://news.yahoo.com/video/raw-vatican-releases-pope-stamps-203126897.html


Wow...that was quick! Shocked
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Raw: Vatican Releases New Pope Stamps, Coins
Associated Press Videos 0:48 mins

To mark the anniversary of Pope Francis' first year as pontiff, the Vatican released a new series of coins and stamps that carry the face of "the People's Pope." (March 13)
https://news.yahoo.com/video/raw-vatican-releases-pope-stamps-203126897.html


Wow...that was quick! Shocked

Yeah, that was pretty quick...

Did Benedict get his own coin?
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« Reply #457 on: March 13, 2014, 10:03:17 pm »

Yeah, that was pretty quick...

Did Benedict get his own coin?

No, it is just Francis - BTW, I just finished your presentation on Obama/Antichrist Conspiracy. Will post my thoughts on it in its respective thread - but I will say this - all the manipulation of the focus strictly on Obama has all but took everyone's eyes off the elephant in the room...no, I'm not saying its Francis, BUT nonetheless b/c of this, Francis' comments and attitudes have all but been pushed to the backburner b/c of it.

I mean Francis has said some eyepopping things(ie-Capitalism is tyranny, gay priests are OK if they do the will of God, atheists are saved if they do good works, etc) that Obama has NEVER said.

IOW, don't ignore the elephant in the room!
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« Reply #458 on: March 14, 2014, 03:32:59 am »

Everybody keeps talking about the Antichrist, but they never mention the False Prophet, which is who needs to be considered when talking about the Vatican. Remember, it's the False Prophet that does all kinds of miracles and such in the presence of the AC, and ultimately is the one who causes the people worship the AC.

The real elephant in the room is the False Prophet.
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So is Francis coming to this for sure? Or is it just a mere invite for now?

John Boehner Invites Pope Francis To Address Congress

As Pope Francis celebrated his one-year anniversary on Thursday, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) announced that an open invitation has been extended to him to address a joint session of Congress.

According to a statement from the speaker's office, the event would be an "excellent opportunity for the American people as well as the nations of the world to hear his message in full."

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“It is with reverence and admiration that I have invited Pope Francis, as head of state of the Holy See and the first Pope to hail from the Americas, to address a joint meeting of the United States Congress.

    “Pope Francis has inspired millions of Americans with his pastoral manner and servant leadership, challenging all people to lead lives of mercy, forgiveness, solidarity, and humble service.

    “His tireless call for the protection of the most vulnerable among us—the ailing, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the impoverished, the unborn—has awakened hearts on every continent.

    “His social teachings, rooted in ‘the joy of the gospel,’ have prompted careful reflection and vigorous dialogue among people of all ideologies and religious views in the United States and throughout a rapidly changing world, particularly among those who champion human dignity, freedom, and social justice.

    “These principles are among the fundamentals of the American Idea. And though our nation sometimes fails to live up to these principles, at our best we give them new life as we seek the common good. Many in the United States believe these principles are undermined by ‘crony capitalism’ and the ongoing centralization of political power in the institutions of our federal government, which threaten to disrupt the delicate balance between the twin virtues of subsidiarity and solidarity. They have embraced Pope Francis’ reminder that we cannot meet our responsibility to the poor with a welfare mentality based on business calculations. We can meet it only with personal charity on the one hand and sound, inclusive policies on the other.

    “The Holy Father’s pastoral message challenges people of all faiths, ideologies and political parties. His address as a visiting head of state before a joint meeting of the House and Senate would honor our nation in keeping with the best traditions of our democratic institutions. It would also offer an excellent opportunity for the American people as well as the nations of the world to hear his message in full.

    “It is with deep gratitude that I have asked Pope Francis to consider this open invitation on behalf of the Congress and the millions of citizens of the United States we serve.”

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« Reply #460 on: March 14, 2014, 10:56:27 am »

OK thanks!

Well, we will see...
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« Reply #461 on: March 14, 2014, 12:16:03 pm »

Well John, if Frank doesn't show, maybe you can get some local witch doctor from the Amazon instead. Same difference!  Roll Eyes
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http://news.yahoo.com/rock-star-pope-francis-putting-people-pews-195551321.html
Is 'rock star' Pope Francis putting people in the pews?

Almost a year since his installation, the pope's popularity doesn't seem to have improved attendance in American Catholic churches.

3/6/14

Almost one year after taking up the reins of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis is unquestionably a media sensation.

He has appeared on numerous magazine covers – including the Monitor's own, for a story I wrote in October. He cemented his “rock star” status with his appearance on the front of February's Rolling Stone magazine. He can even add "centerfold" to his list of accomplishments, thanks to a new glossy magazine entitled "Il Mio Papa," or "My Pope," released in Italy yesterday, Ash Wednesday, and featuring photos, articles, and a pull-out poster dedicated to the pontiff.

But whatever the media might think of him, there's a more important issue for the church: Is the pope drawing believers back into the flock?

A new poll released today says the answer – at least in the US – is "not really."

According to the Pew Research Center Religion & Public Life, while the pope's popularity ratings are sky high, it has not translated to any difference in church attendance in the past year among American Catholics.

John Allen Jr., a longtime Vatican observer for the National Catholic Reporter (NCR), told me in October, that the new pope, in his efforts to downplay the ideological divides on culture war issues and live a more humble life, was appealing to the Catholic “middle” – that is, members of the laity who think of themselves as "Catholic" but felt alienated from the church over the church's position on gays, contraception, or the like.

"He wants to project a more merciful and compassionate face of the church," says Mr. Allen. "That is the agenda of the Catholic middle."

But whether that means a Catholic middle will start filling the pews is another question. As Allen explained to me then: “John Paul II electrified people across the globe in 1978 too. He was this John Wayne figure, a man’s man with this swagger, taking control of the world’s oldest [institution]. He was a media rock star in his time too. While that had a lot of impact, revitalizing the church and giving it new energy, it by itself did not stem the long-term decline of Catholicism in the world.”

The Pew figures show that Pope Francis, despite the expectations he has unleashed, might offer a similar legacy, although Thomas Reese, an NCR senior analyst, has a more positive take. “This could be interpreted as showing that Francis has had no impact,” he writes in an NCR blog today. “On the other hand, since church attendance has been declining since the 1950s, the fact that it did not go down could be considered a victory.”

**Since the 50's? It seems like ALOT of aspects concerning the "church"(all "denominations", that is) have gone downhill since - 501c3, false perverted bible versions, CCM, ecumenicism, etc. Also, NOT ALL "church" sectors have been going down in attendance - the megachurches have been increasing in it. Pt being that the pews over time have jumped ship from one reprobate entity(Catholicism, SBC, etc) to another reprobate entity(megachurches).

The pope himself opened up this week about the “mythology” recently built around him. He said he didn't like it, in an interview published in Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper Wednesday.

"To depict the pope as a sort of superman, a sort of star, seems offensive to me," he said. "The pope is a man who laughs, cries, sleeps tranquilly and has friends like everyone else, a normal person."
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 Cheesy Gee, I wonder why? Oh wait, it's because it's Catholic, and here in the US, Catholic priests aren't exactly looked on with respect these days due to all the **** perverts out there.

I'm sure there are some redeeming qualities within the Catholic cult, I just haven't found any.
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« Reply #464 on: March 16, 2014, 05:41:57 pm »

http://news.yahoo.com/gay-bishop-prayer-francis-104500930--politics.html
A Gay Bishop’s Prayer for Francis

By Gene Robinson
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I love this new pope. I pray for him every day—for his ministry, his safety, and the daunting tasks that lay before him. I like all the connotations of “Francis,” the papal name he took, conjuring the saint whose humility, sympathy for the fragile condition of humankind, and his commitment to the poor still are both exemplary and legendary.

But I am under no illusions that the journey ahead will be easy for this new pope, assuming that he continues to move in the directions he has thus far signaled.  And let’s be clear:  Pope Francis has, so far, only changed the tenor and tone of the voice of the Church he leads. That is no small thing, of course, when most Catholics and non-Catholics alike experienced his predecessor as aloof, hierarchical, and pretentious.

Perhaps most dramatic in that change of tone came in his question, after he was asked about gay priests: “Who am I to judge?” Who indeed?  His immediate predecessors seemed not to hesitate in heaping judgment on homosexuals, women (especially those who made the excruciating decision to have an abortion), the divorced, and a vast array of people who fell short of the Vatican’s moral ideal (exempting at times, of course, members of the Church’s own clergy and hierarchy from those same ideals).

How odd that the leader of the Catholic Church would make big news, espousing an attitude promoted by Jesus of Nazareth himself. Jesus dramatically lived out the command to “judge not,” so why would it be such news when his followers (not to mention the Pope!) would follow in his humble, non-judgmental footsteps?!  It is only a newsworthy development because there had been little evidence of non-judgmental and loving acceptance by his predecessors.

In other words, so far, so good—but it is only a good beginning. The hard work lies ahead: There is more to the Christian enterprise than merely being more kind, more sympathetic.

One of my favorite old sayings goes like this:  “It’s not enough to pull drowning people out of a raging stream; we must walk back upstream, and see who is throwing them in in the first place!”  Charity (pulling people out of whatever raging stream they’re in, like poverty, disease, discrimination, hunger) is a great and cherished tradition. Nothing wrong with it—as far as it goes. In addition to rescue and charity work, people of faith—indeed all who long for justice—must also do the hard, systemic work of changing the systems that cause and trap people in demeaning, dehumanizing conditions in the first place.  Some of those oppressive systems are found in the Church itself! Not just the pope’s church, but my church and every religious community of believers.

If Pope Francis is to be believed in all the kindly pronouncements of his first year (and I do), his good tone should be followed by the tough work of changing the systems of belief, doctrine and religious practice which perpetuate the victimization of those he seeks to serve. It is a small step forward to say of homosexuals, “Who am I to judge?”  Yet the official teaching of the Catholic Church is that homosexuals are “intrinsically disordered.”  Not a lot of wriggle room in that, is there?  That judgment and teaching about LGBT people is the basis for discrimination, rejection and violence the world over. It is fine to verbally decry the ecclesial “circle the wagons” approach to the child sexual abuse exposed in the last two decades, but real commitment to the safety of vulnerable children will require the Church to take steps to value and protect those children over the careers and reputations of its abusing priests.  Positive comments about the contributions of women in and to the Church sound fine, but what is needed is a long, hard look at its entire approach to human sexuality and gender which still treats its female adherents as “less than.”

I do not mean to be uncharitable here, nor naive. Such systemic overhaul of an institution that has existed for the better part of two millennia cannot and will not happen overnight, if it is seriously tried at all. Under the leadership of Pope Francis, the Church may have the best chance at giving it a serious try since the Second Vatican Council under Pope John XXIII.  But the Vatican Curia was there before he was elected pope, and it will be there long after his ministry ends.  There will be resistance to any change, much less the kind of change to which Francis’s humble ways point.  Over the years, we have learned what happens to people who are just too good for us!  But this pope seems to know that sacrifice is part of the deal of living with God.

I hope this pope keeps surprising and delighting us, sitting a boy in his papal chair and allegedly sneaking out of the Vatican at night to work with the homeless!  I hope he continues to show us the mind of Christ by his acts of humility and compassion. I pray that he persists in eschewing luxury and pretension. And I pray that he will stay close to the Son of God he is supposed to represent on earth, despite the institution’s every effort to tame their new leader and rob him of his pizazz.

The Catholic Church is a mighty big ship to turn around, even with a beautiful, charismatic, and inspiring captain at the helm. But God is good, and God will be at Francis’ side as he challenges the Church to live up to its lofty, humble, servant values. Like I said, I pray for him every day.
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« Reply #465 on: March 22, 2014, 04:44:20 pm »

Typical of these minions - first they have the outward appearance of doing something ignorantly, then they stir up their respective flock's emotions, then they come to a "realization" saying "I was wrong about this..."...pretty much that's how they manipulate their followers.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-leagues-bill-donohue-will-not-be-marching-in-ny-gay-pride-parade-with-straight-is-great-banner-116602/
Catholic League's Bill Donohue Will Not Be Marching in NY Gay Pride Parade With 'Straight Is Great' Banner
3/22/14

Catholic League President Bill Donohue said that he will not be marching in New York City's gay pride parade with a "straight is great" banner as he initially requested, after objecting to the organizers' rules.

"For the past few days I have been engaged in an e-mail conversation with officials from the Heritage of Pride parade, New York's annual gay event; the dialogue has been cordial. I asked to join the parade under a banner that would read, "Straight is Great." The purpose of my request was to see just how far they would go without forcing me to abide by their rules. It didn't take long before they did," Donohue explained in a statement on Friday, following a request for comments by The Christian Post.

"Today, I informed Heritage of Pride officials that I objected to their rule requiring me to attend gay training sessions, or what they call 'information' sessions. 'I don't agree with your rule,' I said. They responded by saying that attendance was 'mandatory.'"

Donohue explained that just like the Heritage of Pride has its own rules, so does the St. Patrick's Day parade, which bars groups from marching under their own banner.

Last week, several sponsors pulled out of St. Patrick's Day parades, including The Boston Beer Company and Guinness, in objection to organizers refusing to allow groups to express their homosexuality while marching in the event.

"Guinness has a strong history of supporting diversity and being an advocate for equality for all. We were hopeful that the policy of exclusion would be reversed for this year's parade. As this has not come to pass, Guinness has withdrawn its participation," the brewing company said in a statement on Sunday.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio also publicly announced that he would not be participating in the city's parade because of his objection to the regulations.

"I will be participating in a number of other events to honor the Irish heritage of this city," de Blasio said at a press conference. "But I simply disagree with the organizers of that parade."

In response to Guinness' decision to boycott the parade, the Catholic League in turn decided to boycott the brewing company, and created an online petition.

"Guinness is showing its disrespect for diversity, its support for intolerance, and its contempt for the First Amendment rights of everyone associated with the St. Patrick's Day parade," the petition states
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Pro-LGBT group GLAAD welcomed Donohue's initial request to participate in the NYC Pride parade in June, calling it a "drastic change" for him on Thursday.

"As a fellow Irish New Yorker, I'm hoping Bill will march with me at NYC Pride," said GLAAD President and CEO Sarah Kate Ellis. "I look forward to the day when I can march openly with Bill in the NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade, and not be turned away because of who I am."

In Friday's news release, however, Donohue wished good luck to the Heritage of Pride participants in the parade, noting that he will be watching it from afar – without "downing a Guinness afterwards."

"It is hypocritical for gay activists to complain about having to abide by the mandatory rules of the St. Patrick's Day parade, and then inform me that I cannot march in their parade unless I respect their mandatory rules, rules that I reject," the Catholic League president concluded.
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« Reply #466 on: March 26, 2014, 02:29:50 pm »

Winds of change: Italians losing centuries-old grip on Vatican
http://news.yahoo.com/winds-change-italians-losing-centuries-old-grip-vatican-032634219.html
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Vatican City (AFP) - A quiet revolution is afoot in the Vatican.

With many of Pope Francis's new appointments, control over the powerful city state is slipping, slowly but surely, from the centuries-old grip of the Italian hierarchy.

Popes may come and go -- and three in a row now have been non-Italian -- but the inner workings of the opaque Vatican bureaucracy, the Curia, have traditionally been the province of Italian apparatchiks.

Like Francis, his predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI found themselves in the midst of back-stabbing and turf wars in the Catholic Church's corridors of power, but they had little appetite for disturbing the hornet's nest.

The world's first Latin American pontiff however has had no such qualms, readily appointing fresh faces from diverse countries -- including lay people and women -- much to the chagrin of the old guard.

Putting himself on what one commentator dubbed a "collision course with the Curia", the Argentine has set up several international committees. The latest, created to root out paedophilia in the Catholic Church, includes only one Italian out of eight.

The same is true of a body that he set up in April last year, just one month into his papacy, to advise him on reforming the Curia -- his council of cardinals, nicknamed the G8.

Foreign cardinals have been awarded prestigious posts, from the Australian George Pell -- head of the new economy ministry -- to Germany's Reinhard Marx, who leads up a council tasked with overseeing the Vatican's economic management.

Marx is assisted by Britain's Brian Ferme and Alfred Xuereb of Malta -- who doubles as the pope's very influential private secretary.

"By entrusting delicate government tasks to hierarchies that are made up mainly of non-Italians who are not resident in Rome, the pope is putting himself on a collision course with the Curia's traditional power," editorialist Ernesto Galli Della Loggia wrote in Italy's leading daily Corriere della Sera.

"What seems to emerge is a plan to concentrate (power) not in Rome, but in his person," he said.

- 'Secret wantonness' -

Galli Della Loggia described what Francis is up against: "A certain shrewdness, an ability to mediate (and) impalpable but enduring influences" but also "ferocious ambition, corruption and careerism and, sometimes, secret wantonness".

Lay people and women -- traditionally underrepresented in the leadership of the 1.2 billion-member Church -- figure increasingly in new committees.

A body tasked with carrying out a detailed inquiry into the Vatican's administration is made up of seven lay people, including a woman, while the new committee on paedophilia includes five lay people -- four of whom are women -- and just one cardinal.

Perhaps the most eye-opening appointment to that panel was that of Marie Collins, an Irish survivor of sexual abuse by a chaplain and an outspoken campaigner for victims' rights.

What is more, instead of dictating the committee's mandate, Francis is confident that "the members can draw on their own actual experiences to define the new organ's remit themselves", according to Marco Politi from Il Fatto Quotidiano.

All this does not mean the pope is giving the Italians the cold shoulder: he has given at least two key posts -- the secretary general of the bishops' assembly and the prefect of the congregation for the clergy -- to trusted Italian prelates.

But those who longed for the 77-year-old to decentralise and diversify power at the highest levels of the Holy See hope Francis will continue as he has begun, ignoring the gnashing of teeth from the ousted old guard.


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President Obama Meets Pope Francis At The Vatican

In his first official visit, which began at 10:27 a.m. in Rome, the president and the pope met for about 50 minutes -- longer than many had expected -- before bringing in the rest of the U.S. delegation, including Secretary of State John Kerry, National Security Advisor Susan Rice, and Press Secretary Jay Carney. One by one, the ten members of the delegation were introduced to the pope.

President Obama made the slow, formal procession to greet the Pope in the ornate Small Throne Room outside the Papal Library.

"Wonderful meeting you, I'm a great admirer," the president said. "Thank you sir, thank you."

The two walked into the Papal Library and took seats at opposite sides of the pope's desk.

"It is a great honor. I'm a great admirer," the president said. "Thank you so much for receiving me."

"I bring greetings from my family," Obama added. "The last time I came here to meet your predecessor I was able to bring my wife and children."

The president also presented the pope with a custom-made seed chest featuring a variety of fruit and vegetable seeds used in the White House Garden. The chest is made from American leather and wood from the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

The inscription on the chest reads: "Presented to His Holiness Pope Francis by Barack Obama President of the United States of America, March 27, 2014."

This is Obama's second visit to the Vatican as president but his first with this pope. In 2009, he and First Lady Michelle Obama met Pope Benedict XVI, now pope emeritus. Obama he came bearing a special gift: a stole that covered the remains of St. John Neuman, the first American bishop to be canonized.

Will the Pope return the favor?

Earlier this month, Pope Francis was invited by House Speaker John Boehner to address a joint session of Congress. Boehner extended the formal invitation on Mar. 13 in a letter to the Vatican — on the one-year anniversary of his papacy — saying the Holy Father has "awakened hearts on every continent."

Since Paul VI made his first papal visit to the United States in 1965, three popes have come to America. John Paul II, who came to the United States seven times, visited with every president from Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton.

On Thursday, under an overcast sky, the president's motorcade weaved through this ancient city to be welcomed at the Vatican with great ceremony.

While at first glance, it may not seem that the president and the Pope have much in common, the historic figures share many similarities. The United States' first African American president and the first Latin American pope both exploded onto the global stage, sharing messages of hope and change.

President Obama's stop at the Vatican comes amidst a week-long trip to Europe and the Middle East during which the issue of Russia's incursions into Ukraine have been the key topic of discussion among world leaders.

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I wonder if Frankie rebuked Obama for his embracing of abortion. Roll Eyes
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Jerusalem (AFP) - Pope Francis will pray side-by-side with Orthodox Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew in Jerusalem in a powerful sign of Christian unity during his May visit to Holy Land, the Vatican said on Thursday.

The prayer will take place in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, built over the spots widely believed to be the sites of the crucifixion, burial and resurrection of Jesus.

The two will also sign a joint declaration when they meet on what will be the 50th anniversary of a visit to Jerusalem by two of their predecessors, Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras.

"We are called to be one, and the pope is coming to remind us of this and renew the spirit of unity and fraternal love," Latin Patriarch Fuad Twal told reporters in Jerusalem as he announced the programme of the pontiff's May 24-26 visit to Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Territories.

During the brief trip, Francis will celebrate Sunday mass in the West Bank city of Bethlehem, where Jesus is believed to have been born.

He will meet Palestinian and Syrian refugees and visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial.

But Twal warned the visit could be jeopardised if a strike by staff at Israel's foreign ministry, demanding better wages and working conditions, is not resolved in time.

"If the strike goes on for two months, I don't think we can make the visit to Israel, but for sure the visit will be done in Jordan and Palestine," said Twal, the Holy Land's senior Roman Catholic prelate.

However, Father David Neuhaus, who represents Hebrew-speaking Catholics in Israel, said the government had pledged the visit would not be affected.

"Israel has given assurances, both from the prime minister's office and from the office of the foreign minister, that the strike will not affect the visit," he said.

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's spokesman confirmed Neuhaus's remarks.

But a spokeswoman for the foreign ministry's labour union insisted that if the strike was not resolved, they would not facilitate the visit.

"As long we are on strike, we are not attending to the Pope’s visit," she told AFP, indicating that a preparatory visit by Vatican officials, due to take place earlier this month, was cancelled because of the industrial action.

Twal also addressed disappointment among Catholics in the Galilee and Nazareth, who had hoped the pope would visit these religiously significant sites in northern Israel, saying he "agreed with them".

"We hope that in the future this visit can take place," the patriarch said.

The Argentine pontiff's predecessor, Benedict XVI, visited Israel and the Palestinian territories in 2009.

Israel and the Vatican first established full diplomatic relations in 1993, but have been engaged in years of thorny diplomatic negotiations over property rights and tax exemptions for the Catholic Church, which have yet to be fully resolved.
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Sorry, we already know about it. The book of Revelation has a real good explanation about that call to be "one". That whole unity thing fails, badly!
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Queen meets Pope Francis for first time

Vatican City (AFP) - Queen Elizabeth II met Pope Francis for the first time on Thursday on a visit that coincides with the anniversary of the Falklands War and is also the 87-year-old monarch's first foreign trip since 2011.

Dressed in lilac and clutching a bouquet of flowers, the queen smiled as she arrived at Ciampino airport, shaking hands with dignitaries on the red carpet.

She and her husband Prince Philip then had lunch with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano at the Quirinale Palace, where they were greeted with a military salute and crowds of supporters, some waving Union Jack flags.

Wearing one of her trademark hats decorated with flowers, and with a black purse over her arm to match her shoes, the monarch looked pleased to see the 88-year-old president.

The British royals were then seen arriving at the Vatican for the private audience with Francis in a room next to the Paul VI auditorium in the Vatican, with hundreds of people cheering as their car drove in.

The queen's talks with the Argentine pope come a day after the 32nd anniversary of the start of the Falklands War between Britain and Argentina and come amid thorny Anglican-Catholic relations.

But British officials have played down the prospect of any contentious issues on the agenda as the queen, the "supreme governor" of the Church of England, holds talks with the head of the world's Catholics.

Britain's ambassador to the Holy See Nigel Baker told Vatican radio that there had been "extraordinary" progress in Britain-Vatican and Anglican-Catholic relations since the Queen's coronation in 1952.

"She will want I think to understand from Pope Francis how he sees the role of faith in the world," he said.

On the Falklands War, he said: "The Vatican has been clear with us, including in the last week and at a very senior level, that their long-standing position of neutrality on this issue remains in force".

Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi said the meeting was "very informal".

Francis will be the fifth pope the queen has met, starting with Pius XII in 1951 when she was still a princess.

She has also met John XXIII, John Paul II and pope emeritus Benedict XVI, who stepped down last year.

- 'White smoke over Falklands' -

The couple's last foreign trip was to Australia in 2011, and the one-day visit will last only a few hours, without much of the pomp usually associated with royal travel to avoid tiring the ageing royals.

While the talks are likely to be purely formal, Anglican-Catholic ties are an issue because of resentment in Britain over the Vatican's move to bring conservative Anglican priests who dissented from the Church of England over female ordination.

But relations between Pope Francis and the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, the spiritual leader of the Church of England, are cordial and the two met in 2013 and are expected to hold talks later this year.

The Anglican church, which separated from Rome in the 16th century, has around 80 million faithful compared with the world's 1.2 billion Catholics.

Another potentially divisive issue is over the British-ruled Falkland Islands -- referred to in Argentina as the Malvinas -- to which Latin America's first pope has shown he is sensitive by once referring to them as "ours" before becoming pope.

He also said Britain had "usurped" the islands.

Francis last month met a group of 12 Argentine war veterans holding a placard for "peace in the South Atlantic" during a general audience in St Peter's Square.

Argentine forces invaded the islands on April 2, 1982, but were forced to surrender in June after British forces recaptured them in fighting that left 649 Argentinians, 255 British and three islanders dead.

Following Pope Francis's election last year, British Prime Minister David Cameron said he "respectfully" disagreed with the pope, after a referendum, also in 2013, in which 99.8 percent of Falkland Islanders voted in favour of remaining British.

"The white smoke over the Falklands was pretty clear," he quipped -- a reference to the smoke signal used by cardinals in the Sistine Chapel to show that a new pope has been elected.
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Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis aims to unite conservative and reformist strands of Catholicism with the first canonisation of two popes this month -- an impressive masterstroke that has already stirred dissent in some quarters.

Conferring sainthood on John XXIII and John Paul II means bringing together two distinct schools of thought on what a pope should be -- a humble parish priest figure or a globetrotting, charismatic superstar.

John Allen, a Vatican affairs expert at the Boston Globe in the United States, has written that the joint canonisation shows Francis's "inclusive spirit".

"Francis is speaking not just to the outside world but to rival camps within the Catholic fold who see John XXIII and John Paul II as their heroes -- meaning liberals and conservatives, respectively," he said.

Just a few months into his reign, Francis broke with tradition last year by dramatically propelling the canonisation case for John XXIII -- known as "Good Pope John" and a pontiff with whom he shares similarities.

Less widely known than Poland's Karol Wojtyla, Italy's Angelo Roncalli played a key role in modernising Catholicism in the 1960s and to this day inspires progressives who want a more down-to-earth Church.

- 'Sainthood now!' -

The two popes will be canonised together in St Peter's Basilica on April 27, with many pilgrims -- anything from hundreds of thousands to a few million -- expected.

Rome city authorities are deploying thousands of police officers and setting up four giant screens in the city centre so pilgrims can follow the canonisation mass.

Pope emeritus Benedict XVI, who last year became the first pontiff to resign since the Middle Ages, could also attend, meaning two living and two deceased popes would be present at the historic ceremony.

Enthusiasts can follow the action on the dedicated website www.2papisanti.org which has even been coming out with daily vignettes depicting the two popes preparing for sainthood as comic-book characters.

While sainthood appeared a foregone conclusion for John Paul II from the moment a vast crowd of mourners chanted "Santo Subito!" (Sainthood Now!) at his funeral in 2005, the result for John XXIII was less obvious.

With his canonisation announcement in July 2013, Francis confirmed two miracles attributed to John Paul II in the traditional procedure for sainthood, but crucially skipped a step for John XXIII.

Francis declared the Italian pope, who only had one supposed miraculous healing to his name, so widely venerated already that he did not need a second miracle -- a rare loophole under Catholic Church rules.

"It highlights the fact that the devotion was not very widespread", said Marco Tosatti, a Vatican expert for the La Stampa daily, suggesting that fewer people praying to John XXIII meant less chance of miracles.

"He wanted to make someone he really likes a saint."

The move has irritated Wojtyla's Polish fans who say it overshadows their hero -- a divisive figure who critics say turned a blind eye to paedophile priests and waged a campaign against leftist clergymen.

Vatican conservatives have also expressed concern about bending the rules on sainthood, seeing this as the latest example of maverick behaviour from a pope who has shown impatience with tradition.

- Political flair -

Bergoglio has frequently expressed admiration for John XXIII, a former Vatican diplomat known as the driving force behind the reformist Vatican II Council.

He has also eulogized -- although less often -- John Paul II as a "missionary" and a "tireless preacher".

Vatican experts say that the double canonisation shows "political flair" by Pope Francis but it remains to be seen whether his efforts to unite Catholicism pay off.

Experts also point to some similarities between John XXIII and John Paul II, who both showed a tradition-breaking style tempered with conservatism on doctrine -- similar to Pope Francis.

But expert Bruno Bartoloni said John Paul II's fame overshadows that of John XXIII so much that the latter could end up being "a bit of a detail" at the ceremony.

"There was a veneration in Italy, he was extremely popular. Taxi drivers used to have his image on their dashboards! But now that generation is gone," he said.
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A Moment of Reconciliation for Catholics

Two popes who differed on the Second Vatican Council become saints a half century later.
   
4/17/14

If Pope Francis follows tradition, he will not deliver a homily when he celebrates Easter Mass in St. Peter's Square on Sunday. Rather, after Mass has ended he will read a message "Urbi et Orbi"—to the city of Rome and to the world—to commemorate Christ's resurrection by calling for peace and reconciliation around the globe. The address is typically among the pope's most quoted speeches of the year.

But this time, the most important day of the Catholic Church's liturgical calendar may feel like a prelude to an even more spectacular celebration the following Sunday. On April 27, Pope Francis will add Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II to the church's canon of saints. The event presents an opportunity to send a message of peace and reconciliation not only to the nations of the world, but also to a church still recovering from decades of discord.

More than a million pilgrims will travel to Rome to attend the canonization ceremonies in St. Peter's Square. Hundreds of millions will watch at home or in movie theaters around the world, and the Vatican is broadcasting the images in 3-D. Francis' predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, is expected to make a rare public appearance.

The canonization comes at an important moment in church history, the 50th anniversary of the Second Vatican Council, a series of meetings held by the church's bishops in Rome between 1962-65. The double induction will inevitably remind Catholics of that epochal event, which was essential to the pontificates of both men, though in markedly different ways.

Pope John called Vatican II in 1959 because he had come to the "conviction that something ought to be done in order to make the church more responsive to this modern world, in order to make the modern world more responsive to the church," according to Jesuit Father Ladislas Orsy, one of the council's official theologians. Or, as Pope John famously put it, he wanted to open the church's windows and let in some fresh air. Initiating Vatican II was by far the most consequential action of his pontificate, though he died in 1963 after the first of the council's four sessions.

Pope John Paul attended the entire council as a young bishop, making major contributions to the 1965 document "Gaudium Et Spes," which dealt with the church in the modern world. He argued that Catholics could better engage secular culture if they approached it more sympathetically. He was also a supporter of the council's declaration on religious freedom, and he furthered the council's aim of world-wide evangelical outreach by traveling to 129 countries during his pontificate. But he also made it his job to correct what he viewed as deviations from the council—including dissent in religious orders—that some had justified by appealing to an expansive spirit of Vatican II.

Catholic life looked and felt dramatically different in the years after the council. Mass was now held in modern languages rather than Latin, many nuns moved from convents to apartments and traded habits for ordinary clothes, and lay people took on expanded roles in parish life. Some issues that the council did not address—contraception, sexuality, celibacy, among others—have since grown more controversial.

Most Catholics now feel at home in the post-conciliar church, but vocal minorities continue to debate the legacy of Vatican II, and these arguments color how they view the soon-to-be sainted popes. Some conservative Catholics think Pope John acted with good intentions but ushered in an era of confusion that lingers today. Not a few progressives, on the other hand, regard the pontificates of John Paul and Benedict as a 35-year campaign to roll back the council's reforms.

Pope Benedict, who served as a theological adviser during the council and later as John Paul's top doctrinal official, stressed the continuity of the council's innovations with the church's traditions. At an October 2012 Mass marking the golden anniversary of the council's opening, Pope Benedict said Vatican II had aimed to present "certain and immutable" church teachings in the language of modern culture. This aim, he said, had gone largely unfulfilled amid the "spiritual desertification" of the half century that followed, when many Catholics instead "embraced uncritically the dominant mentality" of secularism.

Pope Francis is likely to offer a more cheerful assessment of Vatican II when he canonizes Popes John and John Paul. More important, he may take the occasion to encourage reconciliation among Catholics divided by their views of the council. But he will not need to address the subject explicitly to send such a message, particularly if Pope Benedict joins him. The church communicates visually as often as verbally, and the sight of a "conservative" pope joining a "progressive" pope to honor two predecessors with such contrasting reputations would be a stirring image of harmony and hope.
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Disclaimer: The guy who put out this video is Dahboo77 - I'm sure most of you are familiar with this popular YT guy. He's a stone-cold New Ager who pushes doctrines of devils like the ancient astronaut theory(so this is not an endorsement of him).

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Did Pope Francis just call and say divorced Catholics can take communion?
4/24/14

Inside a home in an Argentine river town called San Lorenzo, a telephone rang. For the next 10 minutes, an ordinary Argentine woman says she spoke to Pope Francis — and that their discussion may signal a profound change for millions of Catholics across the world. Could it be? The Catholic Church has confirmed that the Monday telephone call happened. But it won’t say what it was about.

Either way, Jaqui Lisbona, a dark-haired Argentine woman with a broad smile, says her life has changed.

Her story begins with a problem. Lisbona loved her civil law husband. She had been with him for 19 years. They had two children together and shared a life. They considered themselves staunch Catholics. She and her husband prayed every night and “always” turned to God. “When someone is in a difficult situation, God is the first one to turn to,” she said.

But her husband, Julio Sabetta, had previously been divorced — a fact that, according to church teachings, would restrict him and possibly even her from receiving communion. Lisbona didn’t know what to do. The last time she tried to take the Eucharist was last year, but the local priest not only denied her communion, but also told her she couldn’t go to confession. “[They told me that] when I went home, I resumed a life of sin,” she told the Buenos Aires radio station La Red Am910.

Distraught, she “spontaneously” wrote down her concerns about “violating church rules” – and shipped the letter off to the Vatican for Pope Francis. “I wrote to him because he’s Argentinean, he listens to people and I believe in miracles,” she said.

Six months passed. Then on Monday, the phone chirped at her San Lorenzo home. Her husband answered it. On the other end was someone who identified himself as “Father Bergoglio” — and he was asking to speak with Lisbona. “My husband asked, ‘Who’s calling?’ The voice replied, ‘Father Bergoglio.’ I asked him if it was really him, the pope, and he said it was and that he was calling in response to my letter dated in September.”

Lisbona claims the pope told her “there was no problem” with her taking communion, and that he was “dealing with the issue” of remarried divorcees, the Vatican Insider reports. ”He said my letter was useful in helping him address this issue…. Then he told me there are some priests who are more papist than the pope.”

The Vatican declined to comment on Wednesday but doesn’t deny that the phone call occurred. The Vatican considers the pope’s personal phone calls to individuals private, according to the Catholic Reporter. ”It’s between the Pope and the woman,” one spokesman told CNN.

Lisbona’s recollection, if true, marks another sharp departure from tradition for a pope who today is widely recognized as the most tolerant pontiff in a generation. From his widely publicized “who am I to judge?” remark on homosexuality to his repudiation of some of the luxuries his position affords, Pope Francis hasn’t shown reservation over wading into some of today’s most contentious issues.

But even by his standards, his reported leniency on divorce — not to mention the phone call’s unusual circumstances — may represent just how open to change Pope Francis has become. The alleged discussion has heightened expectation that there may be additional, and more concrete, alterations to Catholic Church teachings ahead. In October, a worldwide meeting of bishops will revolve around what Pope Francis has called ”pastoral challenges to the family.”

Catholic teaching holds that a divorced members of the church must first obtain an official annulment of their marriages if they’re to be remarried in the church. What’s more, according to New Jersey’s Trenton diocese, Catholics aren’t allowed to marry someone who is divorced unless he or she has had an annulment.

Neither Lisbona nor husband Julio Sabetta responded to requests from The Washington Post on Thursday morning, and it’s unclear whether Sabetta has had an annulment. What is clear, however, is that he was pretty stoked on Monday about the pope’s alleged phone call.

“After the birth of my daughters, today passed one of the most beautiful things,” he wrote in a Facebook post. “I had my house called by no one more or less than PAPA Francisco and it was the biggest thrill. The call originated with a letter my wife sent him. And he took the time to call and talk to her…. Thank God for this blessing.”

And from the Vatican Insider comes this interesting footnote: “The priest who apparently refused to administer Communion to [lisbona], no longer exercises his ministry. He asked to be dispensed from his obligations as priest so he could get married.”
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'People's Pope' Calls for Change of Church Communion Rules

 Pope Francis is calling for a reform of the Catholic Church’s communion rules. According to the current set of regulations, divorced Catholics are not permitted to take communion, but the Pope personally called one woman to exempt her from the rule.

Jacqueline Sabetta Lisbona is married to Julio Sabetta, a divorced man. The two have been married for 19 years and have two children CNN reported.

Lisbona wrote to the Pope Francis for clarification of the communion rules; she had never been divorced, but married a divorced man.

The Pope responded personally via phone. “She spoke with the Pope, and he said she was absolved of all sins and that she could go and get the Holy Communion because she was not doing anything wrong,” Sabetta said of his wife.

The People’s Pope, as Pope Francis is called by some admirers, is now calling for changes to be made with the rules of Holy Communion.

“I think this is the moment for mercy,” Pope Francis said of divorced Catholics.

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Holy Moolah: John Paul II Canonization Sponsored By Banks, Oil Giant

He has railed against the “tyranny” of global capitalism and the “idolatry of money” but even Pope Francis needs a little corporate coin sometimes – as proven by the list of sponsors for Sunday’s canonizations. An oil and gas giant, several banks and Switzerland-based food megacorp Nestle are among more than a dozen financial backers of the Rome event. Hundreds of thousands of people are due to come to the Eternal City to see Pope John Paul II, who reigned from 1978 to 2005, and Pope John XXIII, who was pontiff from 1958 to 1963, canonized as saints. The list of sponsors is dominated by Italian corporations, including energy firms Eni and Enel, banking company Intesa SanPaolo and railway network Ferrovie Italiane.
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